#lore-discussion

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short holly
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I mean
I said 2077 so I was partially correct

peak escarp
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my best guess is 2079 or 2083

twilit patrol
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But why 2077?

short holly
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Really neat indie game imo

worn latch
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Indie 💀

peak escarp
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y'all need to learn what "indie" means

steel cosmos
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overwatch is my favourite indie game

short holly
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Actually

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I guess overwatch would be considered somewhat cyberpunk.

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Sci-fi

peak escarp
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slightly

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more cyber than punk though

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punk is all about going against authority and Overwatch was an authority at one point

zealous knoll
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I won't take the overwatch age seriously

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ages*

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did they fix it yet it is it still on fire

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kiri is like 20 or something and hanzo & genji are like twice her age

peak escarp
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they haven't fixed it

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but that's the only one that's a problem

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no reason to disregard all of them if only one is wrong

rare trail
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yeah most are good kiri is the only one that’s off

mellow stratus
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Kiri should be 24

peak escarp
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at least

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26-28 would be better

final sundial
peak escarp
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why?

final sundial
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Age?

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She looks 16

peak escarp
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she doesn't

mellow stratus
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no

final sundial
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20 max

peak escarp
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people said the same thing about Sombra

rare trail
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I think 26 is best because it matches with sojiros death

peak escarp
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"she can't be 30, she doesn't look old enough"

final sundial
mellow stratus
final sundial
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Kiri just doesn’t

peak escarp
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turns out most gamers don't know what women look like

final sundial
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Are we talking about the same kiriko

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omg

peak escarp
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26-28 isn't that old

final sundial
mellow stratus
final sundial
peak escarp
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women don't tend to age much visually between 20 and 30

final sundial
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She dose look 26

final sundial
peak escarp
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I've heard the "she doesn't look old enough" about pretty much every female hero

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including Ana

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people think 60-62 is old and decrepit

final sundial
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And kiri is 21

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Even blizzard agrees with me

peak escarp
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yeah but her age is wrong

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the numbers don't add up

final sundial
mellow stratus
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It said 47 but it was wrong

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now she's 51

rare trail
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also the cartoony style could contribute to people looking younger

spare fox
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Looking old just varies from person to person, it depends on innumerable factors

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60 might look like 40 or 80, depends on the person

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Plus what Spider noir said, art style is a factor too

rare trail
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also if you value “how old they look” then genji definitely doesn’t look like he’s in his twenties in kiri origin

final sundial
peak escarp
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spirits could make you look younger, but they wouldn't make you actually be younger

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ignoring what they look like, her age is still wrong

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she can't be 21 because she was 12 when Sojiro Shimada died, which was at least 12 years ago

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so at minimum, she has to be 24

final sundial
peak escarp
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so either her age is wrong, or the statement aboug her being 12 when Sojiro died is wrong

peak escarp
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I'm sure they've seen the countless complaints on reddit, twitter, the forums, etc.

final sundial
rare trail
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?

mellow stratus
rare trail
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do you mean like they’re in too deep and can’t change it now?

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because they could just like change it like they did with soj

mellow stratus
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yeah that's what I said

final sundial
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It’s too weird

rare trail
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?

peak escarp
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it's not that complicated

mellow stratus
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I mean, it said she was 47 and they fixed it, now she's 51.

rare trail
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they would like just have to change the number on the website

final sundial
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It was a glitch?

peak escarp
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they don't have to say anything

final sundial
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Ig

rare trail
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like with soj they didn’t say anything

peak escarp
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they didn't say anything when they changed Sojourn's

final sundial
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Plus she’s half robot

peak escarp
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so is Kiriko

rare trail
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what does soj being a cyborg have to do with it?

mellow stratus
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yeah explain us

final sundial
final sundial
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My mistake

rare trail
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soj was off by four years and kiri is off by five

peak escarp
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a cyborg isn't a robot

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a cyborg is still human

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and still ages normally

final sundial
merry mason
acoustic prawn
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That's a very well though theory, I feel like sigma would know about the iris anyways though, however he's no mentally stable so I guess it would be hard to see him use his max potential, and also know the "how" of his powers yk

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There's also a theory that says that the "melody" is actually caused by the string theory

vapid tusk
peak escarp
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I was replying to "[Sojourn] was off by a few years"

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Kiriko is not a cyborg

floral holly
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ov2 fell of

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idk yall still playing that game

peak escarp
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why are you here then?

lime spindle
worthy rose
ruby ridge
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THE FIRST ONE 💔

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I’m shaking and crying

worn latch
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I never thought I'd say the friendship of a hamster and a monke is tragic

delicate forge
past copper
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Damn. Mario, Five Nights at Freddy’s, now Iron Lung

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When will Overwatch get a movie? Lol

rare trail
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?

twilit patrol
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Actually we don't need a movie

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And we don't need a series

past copper
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Movie or series. Whatever. I’ll take it regardless

twilit patrol
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Maybe a movie on how Overwatch was created and how the war began something like that

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Oh they already did with Genesis

past copper
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Need a series during the Golden Age of Overwatch

twilit patrol
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I don't mind if we don't get that

past copper
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See the rise and fall of a once great organization

spare fox
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A series would be awesome! Especially a series similar to Genesis where it's a set of mini episodes focusing on one or a small handful of heroes or an event that happens in-universe

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I know there's heroes ascendant anthology coming out but it'd be cool to see what the non-OW heroes witnessed and what they did during Invasion

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I wonder if BOB got subjugated 😭

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I could see it happening if he was trying to protect Ashe

past copper
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I mean… if Blizzard finds the right people to take up an Overwatch series put it on a streaming platform, it would be done deal

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I don’t know who made Arcane, but I wouldn’t be opposed to them

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Fortiche made the series

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Whatever. Just saying seeing Overwatch in action before being shut down would be an amazing series

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Watching how they operated in taking down bad guys around the globe and trying to bring down Talon

rain shoal
shadow marsh
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Although most voice lines aren't canon, it's good to hear Hanzo is healing. Just heard an interaction between him and sojourn ingame that he'll get a pet like sojourn after he's settled down

golden oak
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What the spirit dragons do exactly, because when Hanzo got hit by his dragons + Genjis, nothing really happened. Unless he’s immune to his own dragons

golden oak
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Really? Didn’t even notice

golden oak
distant sparrow
final sundial
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Sorry who’s Murphy

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I don’t know her lore too well

peak escarp
worthy rose
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Is Tracer technically immortal if her chrono accelerator is perfectly fine and running?

opaque scroll
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no

rare trail
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she still ages

golden oak
peak escarp
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yes

golden oak
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I saw him buying them from someone in a comic

peak escarp
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you can see the machines for filling the canisters in his home on the Junkertown map

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he was buying the canisters - he fills them himself

golden oak
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Oh

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Is it really paint?

peak escarp
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it's not paint

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it's to counteract radiation poisoning

golden oak
peak escarp
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was it tiktok?

golden oak
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No, someone here

peak escarp
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from the Overwatch Visual Source Book

golden oak
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If it actually works he has to have some knowledge about chemistry, maybe he was a chemist before the crisis

rare trail
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wasnt he like 10?

golden oak
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Not sure

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How old was he when he was in ALF

rare trail
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he wouldve been 22 when the crisis started

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not 10 mb

peak escarp
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he's 50 now, and the ALF was around 26 years ago

golden oak
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Yeah so he could’ve been

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Would like to see his and junkrats backstory since we don’t know much

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Well mostly Roadhog since Junkrat grew up in junkertown mostly

peak escarp
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it would be nice to see what Mako was like before he became Roadhog

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or what Junkrat's family situation was like

golden oak
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Like where is she

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Oh and he asks Ana to adopt him

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So I’m guessing his biological mother might not be alive

golden oak
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By not revealing his face they keep him being a scary individual and not just a big guy with a hook

spare fox
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I always found it interesting that JQ calls him Mako

peak escarp
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they have history

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her dad was in the ALF

spare fox
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His official bio implies that after the explosion he took up the mask and the became Roadhog

peak escarp
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and iirc Roadhog was one of her enforcers

spare fox
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Yeah it's interesting they have history

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And what it was Roadhog did to make her not like him enough to be persona non grata in Junkertown even before he teamed up with Junkrat

golden oak
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Why the name Roadhog

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Why road

spare fox
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He has an oldschool motorcycle

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Called "hogs"

golden oak
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Oh right

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I always break that motorcycle when I’m on junkertown map and I forgot about it

spare fox
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Streetpig was also already taken /joke

golden oak
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Pathswine

spare fox
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Sidewalkswine

golden oak
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He did have some debts tho I think

spare fox
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Yes but in Wasted Land, her enforcer (iirc) said he was surprised he'd show his face around after what he did

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No mention of debts I think

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He caught some scavengers stealing his panels, scared them off and took their shotgun and scrap, brought it in to Bruce for scrap money, went to the bar with the money, Junkrat was there

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And then he got "hired"by Junkrat who was about to be attacked by the enforcers (for his treasure)

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Oh and via voicelines, Junkrat knows Stone Anthony but we don't know that story
Maybe that's where you're getting the debt thing from?

golden oak
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He had debts at Bruce’s for sure

spare fox
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Oh yeah

rare yarrow
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Ram and reaper have the best lore

golden oak
short holly
short holly
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I’ve been thinking
You know those more robotic omnics from the war? The ones that resemble actual weapons and stuff? Were they also given sentience when aurora did the thing? Or were they just mindless robots CONTROLLED by omnics [Anubis]

rare yarrow
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They wouldn't build them without sentience, as it kind of goes against there will

short holly
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Well, none of the omnics were built with sentience. All of the omnics alive when aurora did the thing gained sentience and ones after were mindless machines

But that’s besides the point. I’m curious as to why none of them [Weapon omnics] are around anymore. Probably all killed, but how? It would go against the previously outlines omnic rights, and besides, they’re TANKS in the literal and figurative sense. It’d take a tank to destroy one.

spare fox
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They could possibly have undergone physical changes to appear different

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Yknow to not look like warbots

golden oak
hushed jetty
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iirc they specifically dismantled all the bastion units aft3r the war

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except, yknow, bastion

peak escarp
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except the ones made by Null Sector

short holly
golden oak
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Show

short holly
rare trail
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wasnt something like that in pve?

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artillery?

vapid tusk
vapid tusk
peak escarp
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that's a giant turret that Torbjorn built

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not an artillery drone

vapid tusk
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Just saying, I was only confirming the first question 😛
also now that I know that that's a torb turret, I feel dumb for not realizing lol

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Is the new hanzo lore released yet? Or do I have to wait for blizzcon

short holly
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Wait for blizzcon

spare fox
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Who and what do you think is going to be the focus of the Blizzcon cinematic?

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Probably a Mauga intro, but I'd rather one that focuses on a group like OW or Talon though they'd probably save those for PvE cinematics

peak escarp
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it's been a while since we got anything that focuses on Talon

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I'd like that

fresh rock
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I'd also like that. I'd like to dig in through Mauga's origin story.. perhaps piece things together.

magic tiger
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why lifeweaver is wanted in 17 countries is crime doer him?

peak escarp
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he stole tech from Vishkar

short holly
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I mean

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Yeah

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He did

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Idk what I was about to say

hushed jetty
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or at LEAST something related to talon

peak escarp
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a Talon short would be good to set up the next arc of the story missions

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or maybe something with Ramattra to continue the Null Sector plotline

hushed jetty
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maybe they jumpscare us and its a zen cinematic

short holly
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I LOVE ZENYATTA LORE

lyric hemlock
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so you know how widowmakers lore apparently is that she got brainwashed and put through torture that left her emotionless right? There are people that are saying she Volunteer to have her emotion suppressed . Opinions and thoughts?

peak escarp
# lyric hemlock so you know how widowmakers lore apparently is that she got brainwashed and put ...

With few other options left, Amélie returned to Talon, chasing the high that had both thrilled and terrified her. At her behest, she was given extensive training in the covert arts and agreed to participate in an experimental marksman program. Talon’s geneticist, Moira O’Deorain, altered Amélie’s physiology to improve her aim, drastically slowing her heart, which turned her skin cold and blue, and numbed her ability to experience human emotion. It dulled the pain of what she’d done, while heightening the charge she felt on the hunt.

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she did, but that was after she was conditioned into a sleeper agent and killed her husband

lyric hemlock
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Okay ty

peak escarp
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the kidnapping and neural reconditioning part was not voluntary

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the becoming a sniper and having her emotions suppressed part was voluntary

spare fox
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she just liked killing since it gave her strong thrilling emotions

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classic borderline personality disorder

vapid tusk
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was the ana training widow (pre-brainwash) real or fanart?

peak escarp
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fanart

spare fox
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we don't even know if Amelie killed Gerard by shooting him, right?

peak escarp
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she killed him in his sleep

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so she probably strangled or stabbed him

vapid tusk
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or poisoned

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would be a very spider-like thing to do

peak escarp
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a little hard to be poisoned in your sleep

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since typically you have to eat/drink something poisoned to be poisoned

vapid tusk
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🥲

short holly
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Wasn’t it a gunshot?

vapid tusk
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"she was haunted by the way murdering her husband had made her feel."

peak escarp
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that makes it feel more like a violent death

peak escarp
short holly
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Well, it had to be a quick death

peak escarp
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Gerard devoted Overwatch’s every resource to recovering his bride, and it wasn’t long before the operation produced results. His agents saved Amélie, and a medical and psychological evaluation after the kidnapping found her to be apparently no worse for wear. Their official assessment proved fatally inaccurate two weeks later . . . when they discovered she had killed Gérard in his sleep.

vapid tusk
peak escarp
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yes

vapid tusk
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so was she conflicted cuz it made her feel good but also it was her own husband?

peak escarp
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she was haunted because she enjoyed it

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you're not supposed to enjoy the feeling of killing someone

vapid tusk
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I hate not knowing how to phrase a question

vapid tusk
peak escarp
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yes

vapid tusk
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does Genji's relation to overwatch kinda go like this?
gets recruited straight into Blackwatch >> leaves in search for peace >> comes back into normal Overwatch

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i know like 99% of shimada lore but im affirming some unsure points

peak escarp
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life saved by Mercy -> given a cyborg body in exchange for taking down the Shimada clan -> Genji joins Blackwatch -> Blackwatch is disbanded, Genji moves to the regular Overwatch team -> Genji helps take down Doomfist -> Genji leaves to find peace ->Genji meets Zenyatta

vapid tusk
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wasn't the regular ow team also disbanded when bw did?

peak escarp
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no

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Blackwatch was disbanded after the Venice Incident (Retribution)

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Overwatch lasted a couple more years after that

vapid tusk
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i know that happened after reaper killed that bad dude

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i see

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did doom's fight happen before or after recall

peak escarp
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before

vapid tusk
peak escarp
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yes

vapid tusk
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gotcha

peak escarp
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about 5-6 years before Recall

vapid tusk
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thx

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(:

jagged mortar
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what r u guys predicting for what's going to happen after the zen short at the end of the missions?

spare fox
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hm I predict that Zen will wind up in Talon's hands or with Talon for reasons (not agreeing with them obv)

peak escarp
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Overwatch will show up to rescue him

spare fox
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either he'll give himself up hoping to reason with Ram/Talon or just plain get captured and Genji/OW has to rescue him

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idk, I don't see him teaming up with OW just yet

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I think some story needs to unfold between him and Ramattra first

jagged mortar
jagged mortar
spare fox
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yeah we already saw in the Blizzcon online clip Genji is at least there trying to save him

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I think he's/OW is gonna either fail or Zen willingly goes with them, again not because he's "joining" Talon but to talk to Ramattra

lyric hemlock
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sowhat was it that drive omnics and humns ap art?

peak escarp
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the omnics attacked and tried to kill all humans

jagged mortar
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I think the Anubis AI thing was the one that started the omnic war right?

hushed jetty
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ye it went rogue and hijacked every omnic on the planet

vapid tusk
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How would Zen be useful to OW though? The only thing I see him becoming is like a therapist or a team morale booster lol

gilded tangle
opaque tundra
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I just don’t see Zen joining Overwatch at all. It feels out of character to me. He’s more of a neutral guy overall

final sundial
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I don’t know much after widow killed zen so

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How is he alive

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Or it

short holly
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Widow killed Mondatta, the leader of the shambali (clan group thing zen used to be a part of)
To assume all omnics look the same is a little weird tbh

potent briar
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At least that's how I see it

opaque tundra
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That’s what I was thinking too. I can’t see Zen leaving the pilgrimage he basically just started to live on Gibraltar

worthy rose
potent briar
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Oh fs

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Zen is gonna fuck up EVERYBODY in that bitch

ruby ridge
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zenyatta is weak in lore

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He’s just a omnic that has some control of orbs

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He is not a “god”

peak escarp
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Zen is just a monk

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he's not beating anyone's asses

hushed jetty
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he is NOT beating anyone's ass ‼️

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i feel like he'll get helped by genji and then. dip

twilit patrol
dreamy onyx
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what do u guys think the iris is

golden oak
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Watch genesis

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Iris is a state Aurora achieved in order to liberate omnics from Anubis

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(Giving them sentience was a side effect)

worthy rose
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is there a compilation of moira’s creations (outside of herself and the talon heroes she experimented on)

hazy vortex
rare trail
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21

hazy vortex
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google says 19 tho

rare trail
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there was a time skip between ow1 and ow2

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https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/heroes/dva/

Overwatch 2

Overwatch 2 is a free-to-play, team-based action game set in the optimistic future, where every match is the ultimate 5v5 battlefield brawl. Play as a time-jumping freedom fighter, a beat-dropping battlefield DJ, or one of over 30 other unique heroes as you battle it out around the globe.

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she was 19 before

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now shes 21

hazy vortex
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my friend said that but I dont understand how she grew up but others no?

peak escarp
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everyone did

rare trail
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yeah

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everyone got older

granite crow
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How old is orisa then

rare trail
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1

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she was made mid time skip

granite crow
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Ok

spare fox
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According to Hero of Numbani, while Efi was working on Orisa, Mondatta was just recently assasinated. That happened the same night as the recall.

granite crow
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Wait wasn't he that omnic that got shot by widow

rare trail
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yes

peak escarp
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he was the leader of the Shambali

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Zenyatta and Ramattra's mentor

granite crow
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Oh yeah now I remember he was in that flashback cut scene at the end of the 3rd invasion mission

peak escarp
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yes

hazy vortex
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any good videos explaining the lore?

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im pretty new to the game, been playing since ow2

rare trail
vapid tusk
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pinned stuff

golden oak
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There’s a lot of it

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I would recommend just reading/watching the sources tho

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Comics, cinematics are really good
Didn’t read much stories so can’t really tell how they are

muted hemlock
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Winton

fiery lantern
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what did illari do for the lore? I feel like they couldve done a yokai or someone from meka squad

rare trail
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illari is connected to no one

fiery lantern
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all she did was tell us that the inti warriors exist

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exactly

rare trail
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yup

peak escarp
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or they did until she went supernova on them

golden oak
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She has a voice line with Sombra about her wanting Sombra to get some information for her

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Im guessing the information she’s seeking is about inti

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Honestly, what talon takes interest in her, she already has a lot of interactions with moira

spare fox
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Perhaps but we also know Sombra has a lot of intel on Portero/Lumérico... who is in with Vishkar

golden oak
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She knows a lot about everything so that’s why she’s asking her

proven fox
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Has someone been able to figure out what the qr code on Mei's echopoint skin leads to

short holly
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Probably. It might just be the OW website tho

vapid tusk
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what qr code

golden oak
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Huh

patent haven
woven grove
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lore wise who is the weakest?

azure bluff
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Zen, maybe?

peak escarp
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probably Mei or Zenyatta

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although as an omnic Zenyatta is automatically stronger than most humans

azure bluff
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Zen is pretty influential too, and I guess that's a form of strength

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Mei's just a cold girl with a robot friend

peak escarp
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with very little combat experience

azure bluff
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and she's annoying

golden oak
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Hammond without mech

rare trail
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i wonder who would win in like a fist fight

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no like mechs or cybernetics or anything

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maybe rein? or winston?

golden oak
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Lucio and LW also have low combat experience
Well Lucio more since he was fighting in pve a lot

rare trail
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lucio fought in hero of numbani too right?

golden oak
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Maybe a bit

golden oak
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Cuz omnics would have unfair advantage

rare trail
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yeah

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what about winston?

golden oak
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Doom would win

rare trail
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even without primal rage hes still massive

golden oak
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Winston isn’t a human

rare trail
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well if youre taking out omnics for an unfair advantage then like doom has a cybernetic arm

golden oak
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If we include animals then Winston if we include omnics than ram/orisa/bastion?

golden oak
twilit patrol
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Ram it's complicated

rare trail
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yeah but only one of his hands is real

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well "real"

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only one of his hands is human

peak escarp
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Doomfist is a trained martial artist

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even with one arm he's a better fighter

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he would win in a fistfight

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if no augments are allowed

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with augments he would still win against any human, but would lose to Winston or Orisa

golden oak
rare trail
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bob?

twilit patrol
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Bob would lose

peak escarp
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even basic omnics like Zen would be stronger than ordinary humans

golden oak
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Uh idk he’s big but he was made to be a butler, Orisa and ram were built to fight

rare trail
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yeah but like ram was built to like hold a gun and command omnics i doubt hes as strong as bob

tacit plaza
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I speak for everyone when i say requirements for playing overwatch Rank match should be 100 QP wins and 40% .

twilit patrol
twilit nacelleBOT
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This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

tacit plaza
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What's lore

twilit patrol
golden oak
golden oak
twilit patrol
rare trail
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with nemesis ram would probably beat bob but i think without bob has the edge

twilit patrol
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Because holding a gun isn't that easy

golden oak
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So orisa on top huh

peak escarp
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human heroes with no augments: Ana, Ashe, Brigitte, Baptiste, D.Va, Junker Queen, Lucio, Mercy, Mei, Pharah, Reinhardt, Roadhog, Zarya

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Hanzo, Kiriko, Sigma and Tracer are kind of a grey area

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so between the non-augmented humans... Roadhog would win

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unless we take character into account, in which case he would let JQ win

rare trail
#

i thought they didnt like eachother?

#

didnt jq kick roadhog out of junkertown?

golden oak
#

Why Hanzo and kiriko grey

peak escarp
#

because its unclear how their spirits interact with them

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do the spirits make them stronger? if so, then they would have an unfair advantage

twilit patrol
#

Idk but they have unique abilities

peak escarp
golden oak
peak escarp
rare trail
#

brig has some training from rein too right?

peak escarp
#

yes

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JQ is a self-taught fighter

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Lucio just skates

golden oak
peak escarp
#

Ashe is more of a marksman than a fighter

golden oak
#

Plus she beat 2 people with mechs while herself having none

peak escarp
#

and Mei has no combat training at all

#

so Mei would be the weakest human

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in a fistfight

#

based on known feats, Roadhog, JQ and Zarya would be the best in a fight, with Zarya being the strongest non-augmented human

azure bluff
#

Mei probably has a lot of endurance though, given that she was based in one of the most inhospitable places on earth

peak escarp
#

strength takes different forms

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I'd argue that Mei is the strongest emotionally, because after all she's been through she's still a cheerful person

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unlike Illari, who went through something similar and turned bitter and angry

azure bluff
#

Definitely. I just wonder how physically strong she must be to be able to go out and research. Maybe she'd be able to take on some of the smaller characters like Tracer or Sombra even if she's less experienced

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This is assuming we're still talking about a fist fight

peak escarp
#

or maybe she was bitter and angry to start with

#

the original question was in terms of a fistfight

azure bluff
#

Where would Mercy and Moira stand?

upbeat basalt
#

i would be scared of moira in a fist fight

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have u seen them nails

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she’ll scratch ur eye out

azure bluff
#

Maybe but isn't she literally withering away? I'm not sure she'd be able to actually hit that hard

peak escarp
#

I think Tracer (military background) and Sombra (street kid/gang member) would be decent fighters

distant sparrow
#

if you punch her she collapses to dust

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..just reforms 5seconds after

peak escarp
#

Mercy would be pretty weak without her suit

distant sparrow
#

winston in ult has a stronger punch than doom with fist, shown by the doomfist cinematic

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so winston is defo up there

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cause doom can beat tracer and genji

azure bluff
#

I'm not too familiar with martial arts and other organised fighting sports but wouldn't weight class have a pretty big impact?

rare trail
#

i feel like ult shouldnt really be taken into account given this is supposed to be a no augmentation fist fight

#

yeah

distant sparrow
#

well winston is still a gorilla so he's still strong af

rare trail
#

yea

azure bluff
#

Winston is definitely the strongest non-Omnic, I don't think that's debatable

rare trail
#

yeah

peak escarp
#

yeah

azure bluff
#

Ball is a hamster. Even if he's a big hamster, he's gonna get squished.

#

Looking at Sombra now, she's low-key kinda jacked

peak escarp
#

just punt him

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like a little fuzzy football

#

Ana would be on the lower end of the rankings, due to her age

#

but still a formidable fighter

#

she was able to take down Reaper (although he wasnt really fighting back)

#

same with Hanzo fighting Genji - Hanzo had the upper hand until Genji started to actually try, then Genji overpowered him easily

azure bluff
#

How strong do we reckon Echo is?

peak escarp
#

as strong as she needs to be

azure bluff
#

Do we just assume it's a mirror match?

peak escarp
#

she is a robot, so she has a strength advantage

#

and she can learn anything, so she has a skill advantage (given enough prep time)

#

see, this is my problem with hypothetical fistfights - I think too much about the character not just the stats

azure bluff
#

We could just simplify it down to "who would do the most damage in a single punch"

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On a scale from "Ow!" to literally dead

peak escarp
#

I once spent a boring day at work thinking about who would win in a fistfight between Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne, only to come to the conclusion that they would have no reason to fight each other

azure bluff
#

Kinda reminds me of a song from an Australian comedy trio

peak escarp
#

Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny?

azure bluff
#

Nah, "Hot Girl in the Comic Shop" by Tripod

peak escarp
#

lol

upbeat basalt
#

new pfp?

peak escarp
#

I think in a hypothetical free-for-all between the regular humans, it would come down to JQ and Roadhog slugging it out

azure bluff
#

For sure

ruby ridge
#

But

#

I was talking about this in a server a couple months ago

azure bluff
#

Though Brig could probably hold her own for a while

ruby ridge
#

We were saying who’d win no powers between mercy and Moira

rare trail
#

i think in brigs weight class she would do pretty well

ruby ridge
#

And they were saying mercy would win bevwuse she had combat training since she was in ow

#

But if ow ppl get combat training, Moira would’ve gotten it also for talon + black watch

#

So who’d win?

azure bluff
#

Mercy because she's not decaying

rare trail
#

i think moira is more bloodthirsty so probably her

peak escarp
#

Mercy is younger and healthier

#

but Moira wouldn't hold back

ruby ridge
#

I feel like moira has the advantage of ermmm

short hair and nails

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But idk how brittle her nails are

#

Woild probably break

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Instead of stab

rare trail
#

well like what counts as no powers?

#

because moira has some reaper stuff

#

and without the reaper stuff she probably would have a normal arm

peak escarp
#

yeah

ruby ridge
#

No powers basically mean they can’t use their powers at all

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Moira can’t use any of her suck/release

#

Mercy can’t like

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Nvm I said it wrong

#

I didn’t mean no powers

#

I meant like fistfight

rare trail
#

so mercy doesnt have her suit?

ruby ridge
#

Nope

rare trail
#

idk i dont see mercy winning ngl

#

moira is bloodthirsty and mercy probably isnt willing to kill moira

ruby ridge
#

If we did have a battle royale with powers

#

Wonder who would win

rare trail
#

sigma orisa winston or sym probably

#

maybe lw?

ruby ridge
#

I feel like sigma wouldn’t win because I don’t think he actually knows how to use his powers in lore?

ruby ridge
# rare trail maybe lw?

We don’t know what biolight can do exactly, we don’t know if it can be injected with some poison or suck life out of the ground so i don’t think he’d win at this point of time

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But if lifeweaver could make some huge tree that sucks life of ppl then he’d have a good chance

rare trail
#

yeah it depends on the battleground

ruby ridge
#

Sym could really eat

rare trail
#

yeah

ruby ridge
#

The issue is Orisa, she’s a omnic but we don’t know how her limits is

rare trail
#

yeah

ruby ridge
#

Would a widow head snipe kill Orisa?

rare trail
#

probably not?

ruby ridge
#

Can ram in some scenario be able to rip her head??

rare trail
#

orisa can withstand doom punches right?

ruby ridge
#

She just seems do sturdy

ruby ridge
#

Idk about illari

#

We don’t know how far her power goes

#

Plus it’d be a battle royale, a huge blinding target for everyone to see

rare trail
#

i dont know about illaris power

#

the most destructive thing shes done was only done with a massive machine like powering her or something so

deft surge
ruby ridge
#

Many

spare fox
#

One coming out Nov 7, just after Blizzcon

twilit patrol
vapid tusk
#

!!shitposting

twilit nacelleBOT
#

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

left monolith
#

bud stop

jagged umbra
#

😦

vapid tusk
#

im just glad i can finally do the command now

jagged mortar
#

What is talon's objective? I understand that they have many "leaders" and each leader wants something different, like doomfist wants the world to be stronger through conflict, and reaper wants to kill previous overwatch members, but what is talon's objective as a whole?

hushed jetty
#

to make humanity evolve through conflict, by causing a second omnic crisis

#

doom's thing is talon's thing bc he leads the entire organization

#

reaper isnt a "leader" i dont think, but he's part of the inner council so he knows the details and whatnot

jagged mortar
#

ah so doomfist is the main leader, and others like reaper and maximllien, etc are in the inner council

hushed jetty
#

yeah

ruby ridge
jagged mortar
#

I dont watch many movies unfortunately

merry token
#

It’s a series lol

jagged mortar
light reef
#

Is Jack Morrison a parent?

steel cosmos
#

who would be his child

keen summit
golden oak
#

Their relationship only ended because soldier faked his own death after Swiss explosion

limpid agate
#

No it didnt

#

It ended decades ago

worthy rose
ruby ridge
#

Yeah that’s why he wants to stir conflict

#

Sk only the strongest survives

potent briar
#

Not like second in command but something

keen summit
peak escarp
#

Jack's relationship with Vincent ended during the Omnic Crisis, ~28 years ago

#

which makes the fact that he still has Vincent's photo in his pocket a little sad

keen summit
#

Very sad but well just a bit of dramatic story telling

final sundial
#

Didn’t widow kill zen

#

How is he alive

lavish vessel
#

Widow killed mondatta

rare trail
#

widow killed mondotta in alive

lavish vessel
#

Not zen

final sundial
#

Who’s mondotta

rare trail
final sundial
#

I know a lot about the lore in this game but I don’t know what’s happening rn

#

They all know each other and one is good and one is bad

rare trail
#

?

#

whos they?

final sundial
#

How are they working together

rare trail
#

who?

final sundial
#

The legends

twilit patrol
rare trail
#

pvp isnt canon

final sundial
#

Like why won’t orisa take doom to prison

rare trail
#

she doesnt have doom in her custody

#

shes just in numbani

#

doom is uhh somewhere

#

we'll get updates on him with the next set of pve probably

final sundial
#

How are they even working together

twilit patrol
#

Isn't he in Monaco?

final sundial
#

In the games we play

rare trail
#

pvp isnt canon

final sundial
#

Cannon is lore right?

#

And pvp is just game

rare trail
#

yes

final sundial
#

Ohhhh

rare trail
#

the main pvp isnt canon

#

stuff like archives is canon though

#

and some pve is canon its a case by case basis there

final sundial
#

How does mercy look young

rare trail
#

just the artstyle

#

there isnt a lore reason for it

final sundial
#

I mean the voice lines between her and mei

rare trail
#

which voicelines?

final sundial
#

They say that she has ent aged a day

lavish vessel
#

It’s just a compliment

final sundial
#

No

twilit patrol
#

VL aren't canon

#

I mean, it isn't 100% canon

rare trail
#

mei was frozen for 9 years so shes biologically 33 but she was born 42 year ago

final sundial
rare trail
#

the not aged a day thing is probably just a compliment though

final sundial
peak escarp
#

Mercy is 39

#

she looks young because she takes good care of herself and 39 isn't that old

final sundial
peak escarp
#

no, present day

#

20 years ago she was 19

rare trail
#

mercy was 17 here right?

image.png
peak escarp
#

yes

merry mason
#

Its a joke voice line. It’s mercy that says to Mei “you haven’t aged a day” and then she casually responds with how she literally hasn’t aged.

peak escarp
#

there's two versions

worn latch
#

Or is that just fanon

rare trail
#

i thought one of the writers said that all chars age normally

peak escarp
worn latch
#

Ahh mb

vapid tusk
#

from right to left i can tell it's
sjrn - cass - mercy - torb - rein - soldier - pharah - ana - reaper - ???

peak escarp
#

we don't know yet

vapid tusk
#

if its someone from the roster it might be genji

peak escarp
#

it's not Genji

#

he wasn't a member yet

vapid tusk
#

ah

#

he would have that cocky smile tho

#

if he was there

#

i love how it feels weird seeing mercy in casual clothes but not rein shirtless

hushed jetty
dreamy onyx
#

why was zenyatta meditating? is he stupid

rare trail
hushed jetty
#

i imagine she wasnt In overwatch at the age of 17, so why is she in the picture

rare trail
#

she was in overwatch at 17

peak escarp
#

she wasn't in Overwatch at 17

#

she was there visiting Torbjorn

#

she didn't join Overwatch until her early 20s

rare trail
#

oh mb so she became the head of medical research at like 20-25ish?

peak escarp
#

yes

golden oak
#

Wait no, I think he just has really tight suit

merry token
#

Yeah

#

Cause the large dark stripes aren’t something we’ve seen on his body

azure bluff
#

Overwatch really love their form hugging clothing, don't they?

spare fox
#

It's most efficient for battle or combat generally

azure bluff
#

To an extent, sure, but the Overwatch outfits are pretty extreme with how tight they are.

potent briar
vapid tusk
dreamy onyx
#

why isn’t he with ratta

#

is yatta stupid

vapid tusk
#

How does that make him stupid?

#

You’re not answering my question

#

Nothing suggests that they should be traveling together. They’re seperate because their views differ. Sure, they might meet again eventually, but I don’t think they necessarily belong together

dreamy onyx
#

bro im not serious

peak escarp
#

this is a serious discussion channel

#

if you're not being serious then leave

dreamy onyx
#

what☠️

#

I was genuinely curious

sharp lava
#

Something I completely missed is how do echo and Cas know each other

rare trail
#

cass was friends with echos creator iirc

#

he was in overwatch with liao and i thought he met echo in ow?

woven jewel
sharp lava
peak escarp
#

Cassidy was assigned to be Dr. Liao's bodyguard, but they became friends

humble dome
#

i have no idea how the le sserafim skins are gonna fit into the lore

#

but i’m so excited

vapid tusk
#

People already came up with potential matches but it’s not confirmed

vapid tusk
peak escarp
#

crossovers aren't canon

echo shoal
#

How did Reyes get his powers

peak escarp
#

Moira messed with his genetics

echo shoal
#

4 real

peak escarp
echo shoal
#

Noooo

#

That’s foul

jagged mortar
#

Do you think they're gonna bring back the OW1 archives missions? retribution, null sector mission, and I think one of them was called storm rising or something

peak escarp
#

I sure hope so

fresh rock
#

I also hope. But they have to re-record a lot of voice-lines from Retribution

jagged mortar
woven jewel
#

Because they refer to Cassidy as McCree and that's problematic

jagged mortar
#

Oooh right

#

I still refer to him as McCree ngl

#

it also has a pretty cool meaning in arabic

#

It sounds like a word that means "Cunning" or "Deceiving"

woven jewel
#

Ooh nice

#

But I get why they wouldn't want to even keep a name that sounds like it

peak escarp
#

it's best to get used to calling him Cassidy

#

holding on to the old name makes you look like you're siding with abusers

jagged mortar
#

Yeah..

hushed jetty
#

i hope they bring back archives. i wanna hear my boy reyes again....

golden oak
#

I was waiting a whole year for archives and still waiting

hushed jetty
#

i will continue to hold out 😔
maybe when the next missions drop

#

(<-- coping)

twilit patrol
#

Archives was a banger

potent briar
golden oak
#

Btw why is moira blackwatch Skin unavailable

lavish vessel
#

It’s PlayStation exclusive now sadly, or for the time being atleast

golden oak
#

Huh

lavish vessel
#

It was the PlayStation plus a couple months ago

golden oak
#

I hate how they gatekeep ow1 skins for Amazon prime/ PlayStation/ etc

lavish vessel
#

Yeah same, I really wanted tracer willowisp but it’s locked behind ps now :(

golden oak
#

And it’s really good skins too like dva surfer, rein conductor

#

They should do it with skins like owl mercy because you could still get it even if you don’t have ps

azure bluff
#

Hopefully they don't continue doing that. Well, they won't with PS but I mean I hope they don't do the same thing but XBOX exclusive instead

vapid tusk
#

Why does ps get favoritism

#

I can’t wait for blizzcon

dense lodge
#

do you guys think that winston secretly has a relationship with genji and they have love in the basement

jagged mortar
#

no.

peak escarp
#

!!shitposting @dense lodge

twilit nacelleBOT
#

@dense lodge Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

dense lodge
#

it was a just a suggestion jeez

worn latch
#

Speak your truth harry

peak escarp
#

it was still shitposting

vapid tusk
#

i wonder how many shitposts this channel gets per week

worn latch
vapid tusk
#

what are the chances of genji and hanzo meeting again?

golden oak
#

I’d say high since Hanzo is getting involved with fighting null sector

rancid stratus
#

reinhardt was born 2015, he might have been a skibidi toilet fan

peak escarp
#

we don't know what year he was born

devout jasper
twilit patrol
vapid tusk
#

It feels weird knowing that I’d be older than sigma in the ow universe

golden oak
#

Most of us are older than ow heroes

twilit patrol
#

Yeah

#

I’ll be like 73 in 2078

potent briar
#

I'll be about 74

hushed jetty
potent briar
#

Thank you lol

#

My friend found it a while ago and knew I love Ramattra so he sent it to me

#

W friend

upbeat basalt
#

that’s cattra

limpid echo
#

Plot Twist: Ball is 16 In Hampster years

peak escarp
#

what are hamster years?

vapid tusk
peak escarp
#

Hammond is 16 in human years

worn latch
#

😨

#

He's like

#

200

#

Idk I can't count

#

He's old tho

peak escarp
#

he's genetically enhanced

#

he's not old

short holly
#

Y’all remember when someone from blizzard (think is was either Jeff or Aaron) said bastion was important to the lore of OW?
I’m trying to figure out what they meant, because he doesn’t seem to important rn

unkempt talon
#

What’s the story about Echo ? Where did she come from

spare fox
golden oak
#

Didn’t torb make bastion units in the past because he was in sst laboratories or whatever it was called

spare fox
#

Yes iirc he worked on bastions and titans

merry token
gloomy meteor
#

Does anyone know how mcree lost his arm

lavish vessel
#

I don’t think we were ever told

gloomy meteor
#

Fair enough

mortal ivy
rare trail
#

it was sometime after overwatch fell because he has it in blackwatch right?

shadow marsh
#

Yes

dense lodge
#

yes, and they need to be bigger. The big toe needs to have warts on it and a broken nail.

rain shoal
warm island
#

Who has the best lore in overwatch

#

I say Ashe or junkerqueen

lavish vessel
#

Imo ramattra and widow

#

I like all the heroes lore a lot tho

worn latch
#

He floats

peak escarp
#

his feet should be small and baby soft because he never uses them

worn latch
#

I think we should count how many times someone has brought up sigmas feet in the lore channel

gloomy meteor
#

Lmfao wtf😭

vapid tusk
vapid tusk
vapid tusk
peak escarp
#

we don't know why Cassidy lost his arm, only that it wash't because of Ashe/Bob

nova field
#

Holding the urge to not say a joke about the arm

potent briar
#

He installed it to fan his hammer

#

And then realized it was his left hand

vapid tusk
peak escarp
#

I wasn't going along with it

#

I was correcting them

vapid tusk
#

the topic felt like satire in the first place (imo)

peak escarp
#

it is

vapid tusk
#

so i didn't think you'd partake in it
that was what my comment was about

azure bluff
#

The reason they gave as to why he doesn't wear shoes still rubs me the wrong way

peak escarp
#

yeah it's not great

vapid tusk
#

what was the reasoning

peak escarp
#

because he was inspired by a mental patient, and mental patients in institutions have their shoes taken away

spare fox
#

More important to me is why does he still appear so buff if he's not using his muscles... he should be atrophied and withered
In guess unless he works out but doesn't seem like he does

vapid tusk
#

that seems like a good reason to me

#

he is mentally unstable after all

azure bluff
#

It was based on an ableist assumption that "asylum" patients can't be trusted with shoes

pallid mauve
#

What are we talking abt here?

vapid tusk
#

the reasoning behind sigma's missing shoes

pallid mauve
#

interesting 💀👍

#

What are the theories

vapid tusk
#

well the reasoning is stated a few texts back

vapid tusk
azure bluff
#

At the very least he would've been given socks, it's unhygienic to walk barefoot everywhere

vapid tusk
#

well he doesnt walk

#

i'd assume that he wore socks and shoes before the accident

azure bluff
#

I'm talking about when he was being treated. The reason he doesn't wear any footwear now is because he got used to the feeling of not wearing any

vapid tusk
#

as influenced as it might be, it may also just be his natural preference

azure bluff
#

I'd be fine with that, but at the time during interviews they explicitly said that he doesn't wear shoes because when he was in an "asylum" (in quotes because it's a word that people have moved away from already) he wasn't allowed shoes

peak escarp
#

except he wasn't even in an asylum

azure bluff
#

Which makes it even more baffling

peak escarp
#

Upon returning to Earth, De Kuiper was quarantined in a secret government facility. Between his ravings about the patterns of the universe, the nonlinear nature of time, and the gravitic anomalies happening around him, he was deemed unsafe and detained for years under the name "Subject Sigma." Isolated and unable to control his powers, De Kuiper retreated into his own mind.

#

he was more a science experiment

azure bluff
#

If they just didn't say anything about their reasoning for why he doesn't wear shoes, it wouldn't have been controversial

#

I will admit, it's been a long time since I've looked into his backstory and the talks around it from when he released so I've definitely remembered some things wrong (thanks for correcting me)

peak escarp
#

you got their explanation right, their explanation just doesn't make sense for the lore he was given

azure bluff
#

Either way, at this point I feel I'm moving away from lore and into drama territory so I'm happy to leave the discussion at that

vapid tusk
#

i forgot the term for Bastion's mental state

#

from the cinematic

peak escarp
#

PTSD?

#

although it's not exactly that

vapid tusk
#

yeah thats the term
thx

peak escarp
#

if any hero has PTSD, it would be Baptiste

#

he shows a few signs of it in his short story

vapid tusk
#

hanzo wouldn't fit right

#

he just has trauma

peak escarp
#

yeah

hushed jetty
#

it is kinda... bad the reason they didnt give sigma shoes

#

i do find it rpetty funny that is seems he actively dislikes wearing them though

#

he has a few lines when he's wearing a skin with shoes that are like. "can i take them off now?"

#

and when doom kills him he sometimes goes "you still refuse footwear?"

merry token
fresh rock
hushed jetty
#

ive never heard them in game but theyre on thd wiki i think

fleet violet
#

Does the lore mention Widows gigantic ass and its size? (School purposes)

peak escarp
#

no

vapid tusk
#

Isn’t this shitposting

open coyote
#

since when does overwatch have lore

steel cosmos
#

since forever

twilit patrol
#

Every game has lore

fleet violet
limpid agate
#

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_tennis#History

Table tennis

Table tennis (also known as ping-pong) is a racket sport derived from tennis but distinguished by its playing surface being atop a stationary table, rather than the court on which players stand. Either individually or in teams of two, players take alternating turns returning a light, hollow ball over the table's net onto the opposing half of the...

fleet violet
#

I meant the video game

limpid agate
#

Its not a video game, its a sport

fleet violet
#

Theres a video game

#

Two lines

#

1 ball

peak escarp
#

the video game is called Pong

#

and the lore of Pong is that you're playing ping pong

upbeat basalt
#

are junkrat and roadhog kicked out from junkertown only

#

or the whole place

#

like new junk city too

potent briar
#

Pretty sure I saw a wanted poster for those two in new junk city

#

I could be tripping tho

peak escarp
#

the whole place

hushed jetty
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so is junkertown just like... a single district in new junk city? or?

peak escarp
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yes

hushed jetty
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i see i see

pulsar pike
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SOMEONE PLS Join me and my friend to beat my brother in a 3v2 we can talk fnaf lore after

stuck stump
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May be a dumb question, but was Widows sense of touch affected by Talons experiments?

peak escarp
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no

jagged mortar
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Do they release new overwatch comics now?

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All I remember are the older comics

hushed jetty
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sometimes yeah

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the last one was the starwatch comic iirc?

peak escarp
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there haven't been any comics recently

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lots of short stories though

stuck stump
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How intelligent is Sombra? Has she had success with her mission of getting knowledge?

hushed jetty
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she's the world's best hacker so i imagine she's pretty smart

keen summit
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the point of shoes are to not be harmed or effected by stuff on the ground. he flies, so whatever

ruby ridge
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I think the words “feet” or “foot” should be muted in this channel

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It’s so annoying having to hear about sigmas feet every 4 hours

golden oak
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Btw, in junk city theres a lot of posters with some doors and theyre apparently property of the queen and off limits, what are those?

distant sparrow
potent briar
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toenails

worthy rose
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can tracer zip through someone and they explode into a million pieces of

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or

rare trail
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she cant really zip through someone

worthy rose
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aw that’s lame

zenith mango
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Tracer speeds up her own time

short holly
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Y’know, I’ve always wondered since time travel is quite literally a thing, and in the OW lore they ALMOST cracked the code, will that plot point ever come back?

rare trail
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i thought the slipstream thing was just a plane that was meant to like go fast

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i didnt think it was originally supposed to be time travel

peak escarp
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it's not time travel in the traditional sense

short holly
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Well, it’s still kind of a thing

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We’ve only ever heard mention of it in tracer lore and nowhere else

peak escarp
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it's unique to her

short holly
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Yeah
But you think they’d at least MENTION it somewhere seeing as the slipstream was such an advanced creation

peak escarp
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the project was probably abandoned after the accident and deemed too dangerous to continue

vapid tusk
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Who would win, Genji or Tracer? I heard that they used to spar during Blackwatch days

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And Genji seems to sort of respect her as a rival

golden oak
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Tracer

short holly
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When people ask a “who would in a fight between X and X?” I always ask them “why?”
Motivation and reasoning in fights are just as important as how the fighters fight, for lack of a better term. If they’re fighting just to fight, it’s really a coin toss. But if they’re fighting for a cause, it’s way more interesting and easier to determine.

drifting goblet
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Bionicle lore is better

rare trail
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!!shitposting

twilit nacelleBOT
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Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

peak escarp
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okay

drifting goblet
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Ah ahit

hushed jetty
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just read liao's noted on echo and man. man. man.

i do find it kinda interesting how echo isnt sentient bc if she's a super advanced learning ai. does it evdn matter if she jsnt "sentient" anymore

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what differentiates her Really Good Acting vs an actual omnic's sentience at that point

spare fox
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Only Aurora was made with sentience I guess we never found out what Liao did differently with her

peak escarp
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Liao didn't even know

hushed jetty
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her notes mention it being like. a quantum event that probably will never be replicated, or something

short holly
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Oh my god, just like that particle from the sun messing with the SM64 speedrunner

golden oak
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Damn those kill quotes PogChimp

ruby ridge
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She’s so mean:(

distant sparrow
golden oak
warm island
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Hi

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Do you like junkerqueens backstory

worn latch
golden oak
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He chuckles and says “basic biology”

worn latch
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I said new

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That one's been there since his release

abstract socket
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Did lucio level up on fortnite this weekend

short holly
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You guys ever write overwatch ocs? I’ve made like one.

vapid tusk
short holly
vapid tusk
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Although they’re not the same, if someone wins a lot via sparring, it’s likely that they’ll also win a lot if they fight for real. I was inquisitive because the results of those sparring matches were never specified

short holly
golden oak
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Well duh, tracer can singlehandedly break the laws of physics to her advantage

peak escarp
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I think Genji would win, due to more experience and training

golden oak
lavish vessel
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Doom managed to do it, I feel like Genji would have a chance

peak escarp
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yeah

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given enough time to learn her pattern, he'd be able to predict her

short holly
lavish vessel
golden oak
lavish vessel
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Ik but we were talking about Genji vs tracer, if doom could predict tracer’s blinks, Genji might be able too cos he has good levels of focus and concentration

golden oak
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Yeah but doom is good reference, doom had more trouble with fighting tracer than genji so

lavish vessel
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Yeah that’s a good point

short holly
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Monky beats all three

lavish vessel
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Yeah, Winston is one of the strongest in lore

short holly
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Winston IS the strongest in lore

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Doomfist’s gauntlet is said to level skyscrapers, and Winston can break the gauntlet Soo

vapid tusk
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Plot armor

short holly
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Every character has plot armor in OW winStare

vapid tusk
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Not mondatta

azure bluff
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F

short holly
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Every main character

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Every PLAYABLE character

short holly
azure bluff
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Didn't they flirt with the idea of killing a playable character a couple years ago?

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I wonder if that's still on the table

vapid tusk
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Which

hushed jetty
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if anyone dies, and that is a very hard if, i imagine itd be one of the villains

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like reaper or something

ruby ridge