#lore-discussion
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Not working, he would go to jail
Ur actually so fucking annoying oh my god
even if he doesn't want to work there nobody wants to work he just has 2 do it
sorry im attacking your precious bf đ
He left because they would've used biolight for their own purposes which would've hurt the world instead of healing it like he wanted
No ur just actually annoying
so? he cant do anything about it in the long run
why doesnt he just.. work and make bank
Yes he can đđ he can keep biolight away from them and help heal the world
Because he cares more about healing the earth than getting money
Because he invented something with vishkarâs equipment so they claim their rights for it
how would vishkar even hurt the world
i mean they have sym so they're already the most evil faction but apart from that whats so bad about em
They literally burned slums in Brazil
ok.. another bad thing they did?
Being corporate scum
Yeah being a big corpo also
It can be used as bio weapon
why would vishkar use it
How does any potential weapon hurt the world in the hands of a company that seeks only to make profit?
Someone mute this guy fr
they wont exactly have a customer base if they use it as a bio weapon
i know sym is a dumbass but even she doesnt wanna destroy the world probably
They work with talon
Destroy competition. Become monopoly. Enslave the planet.
A terrorist organisation
ok
you avoided the question
i asked why would they use biolight as a weapon
you just said they work with talon
To destroy their competition and subjegate people
so they deploy a bioweapon in their competitions hq, lets say that gets out and then suddenly an entire city is dead
i doubt they're stupid enough to use it
That's not the nature of biolight though
Well biolight also has medical uses so they could poison people, then make them buy expensive cures
Or something
mm yes im sure doctors and government wont be suspicous when they find biolight in patient's bodies
I'm sure that the government can be bribed
If it leaves trails
depends on the government
We donât know exactly how biolight works
so how can you claim it can be used as a bioweapon
Biolight itself is an abstract concept
Because sigma said it could be
you really believe the insane guy? alr then
Heâs a scientist
Sigma is literally one of the smartest characters in overwatch
also insane and mentally fractured
And a former friend of mercy
well one he's not in overwatch he's in talon
specify overwatch 2 then
No!
His knowledge wasnât affected tho
đ
i thought you'd love ow2 considering it added your precious bf
what kind of logic is that
Why r u weird bro
what does this mean
he cant say im weird đ
Youâre overthinking it. Viskar would surely monopolize biolight, allowing them to further their reach. Itâs not about bio weapons
idk man ur bringing up something that had nothing to do w lore 
all they did was not put the 2 after overwatch
The whole reason you're even talking here was because you wanted to insult lifeweaver I think you're pretty strange
by that logic him calling me weird wasnt lore either
im insulting a dogshit character
Heâs from OW1 though
yeah bc u were the one who brought up lw after they didnât put a number after Overwatch
dont like it? dont respond
but there's isnt an overwatch 1 for him to be in rn
This same exact logic can be applied to you talking about lifeweaver
that sorta got nuked years ago
a lethal bio weapon would probably sell pretty well
OW1 is OW2 theyâre the same game
idk man it seems ur a little pressed
technically no

Perfect medicine would sell better
Besides, lifeweaver himself doesnât deny that it can be used as a weapon
(Plus heâs literally using it as a weapon himself)
If I say overwatch I mean the game you can just use common sense it's not that difficult
there's nothing else to do except from argue in lore channel ngl
Yes exactly
you said bioweapon
nothing lifeweaver does is a bio weapon
Thorns
i mean i guess you could technically argue tree of life but that's the opposite of one
not a bio weapon
Itâs bio itâs a weapon good enough for me
If he can make the thorns vishkar can figure out a way to turn biolight into a weapon for their own purposes
No but it could be used that way since sigma calls it âself propagating biomassâ
Fr
yet they haven't yet so don't call it a bioweapon yet
could
You're not even having a conversation the only thing you're doing is trying to argue it's genuinely so annoying
And the creator doesnât deny it
if you really, truly find me annoying im pretty sure there's a block button somewhere
So why do you argue still
Not even giving any actual proof or reasoning for your opinions ur just talking
or did discord remove that? i forget
Okay
the creator never said it could be used as a bioweapon, just a normal weapon
Bro youâre actually dumb
That's just semantics
Maybe you shouldnât be usually online
are you resorting to insults because you ran out of arguments or because you dont wanna argue anymore
both of you
Because Iâm talking to a wall
stop
Gladly
so.. option 2?
A weapon of biological nature is a bioweapon.
ok
@distant sparrow if you're just here to insult people then I'm gonna have to ask you to leave
then contribute meaningful discussion
i thought a debate over the possibility of biolight being a bioweapon was meaningful
biolight has the potential to be used as a bioweapon, which is part of why Lifeweaver wants to keep it out of Vishkar's hands
You were arguing just to argue
Biolight is a living organism.
the other reason is to prevent Vishkar from hoarding it and monopolizing it
ok ty for clearing that up for me
so now.. why doesnt LW ingame just murder everybody ingame except the omnics and reaper immediately
because he's not evil
i mean when he uses his weapons
Yes exactly. I don't remember the exact words but in the interaction with mercy it's like Vishkar would do lots of things to get biolight. And seeing as they're not above murder I think it's a pretty solid theory to think they'd kill lifeweaver for it
You really think someone who calls himself lifeweaver would do that?
just because something can be used as a weapon doesn't mean that it's a weapon every time it's used
he never said if he creates or destroys life
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Do you know what weaving means
take botulinum for example - it can be toxic, but it can also be used in cosmetic procedures
yes
It seems like LW has control over the biolight, hence it not instantly killing everyone, if that's what you mean by why doesn't he kill everyone?
but why did you bolden the life if you didnt mean that part of the sentence specifically
Broâs about to argue over every word I say
AGAIN
so.. how do lifeweaver's weapons work
Except thorns I guess
he uses biolight for thorns
thorns is hard light
ah mb
So biolight is healing blossom, platform, tree and grip?
I always thought grip was hardlight tbh
biolight is just the tree
is platform hardlight?
Biolight can make life, thereâs nothing stopping him from making bacteria.
maybe the grip because it also heals
Itâs a seed
Iâm pretty sure at least the primary fire lotus blossom is too
seems like a capsule to deliver the biolight
Ohh okay yeah that makes more sense
so maybe the thorns are biolight too
Hard light can be different colours tho right?
Since the Aurora statue sym fixed was like golden hard light or something
Wasnât biolight though
yes
Presumably hardlight/ bio light can be all sorts of colors
Vishkar just likes their blue aesthetic
I see
Most iconic brands do that so that makes sense
What would Maugas kit have? Any predictions, from what we know so far about him?
maybe something involving radiation or something based off the map
in the short story he had dual miniguns and a barrier that deflected bullets
but I expect that to change
Heâs a talon assault unit but I would think they would want to make him unique
Does bap actually just have tech that legit makes ppl immortal
Every tank ( im gonna guess hes a tank) has some sort of short range primary so i thinm its like an 80% chance its gonna be smt else than a minigun
it's a device that creates a field that reduces damage
Immortality is not a thing even in lore
kinda
its shown in what you left behind
it doesn't make people immortal
Wasnât it in new blood also?
I think severe enough damage (like standing in the middle of an explosion) would break through the field
Didnât he survive standing in the middle of an explosion specifically because of the field though
didnt he almost die though
he wasn't in the middle of it
Fair enough
That lines up with its in game ability too
Itâs a projection of the area that the mech shoots down projectiles
Lasers? Idk
but the bio thingy in Mauga's hut seems to imply his kit is some kind of AOE aspect
Maybe they replace the canisters on the back of the heavies
Him having lava powers would be sick, although torb already exists
bio thingy?
I can't remember. I know the warning symbol wasn't radiation
could be like that gas attack they gave Hog in an experimental patch that one time
bio-hazard?
But then again, Samoa is ran by Lava just like how Illari's place was ran by sunlight
Itâs the biohazard symbol
Thats what I was thinking
it's probably going to be AOE and probably bad for the enemy team
They tend to use scrapped abilities in future heroes so thatâs quite probable
Mini guns, shield
So Bastion x Rien????
yes
but he did totally get wrecked at the end of the story so that leaves room for a total rework
but I expect it to be different in game
"he used to a have a shield until he was injured" etc etc
Off topic question, but what is Sombra's rework gonna do
they said like
nobody knows yet except devs
Oh good, as long as they don't get rid of her title as hacker/infiltrator
theyâre trying to further uhhh
they wouldn't do that
the word is
as what im assuming is that they donât feel like sheâs playing her role as a hacker well enough
....
SOMBRA PLAYERS GO AROUND HACKING EVERYTHING/ONE SHE CAN
How is she not playing her role enough????
take everything i said w a grain of salt
im not entirely sure what the rework is thatâs just what i can remember

Hold please đ
bet
"doesn't wantt to nerd her" HAH we'll see abt that
What does "to uphold her present hacker iditification and play fashion" mean
probably what itâs saying
Presumably that they still want her to be a sneaky saboteur
i think blizzard just doesnât like what sombra has going on rn
i hope this doesnât become a spy from tf2 situation
I mean, even as a Sombra main I can understand why people find her incredibly frustrating to play against
But this is getting out of lore territory and into balance/gameplay
In Infiltration, Sombra is seen hacking some stuff in her surroundings, as she is chasing Katya. Could that be a possibility. (far chance, but still)
Wait, nvm I guess that'd be dificult to put in game :/
Do we know anything about what hanzo did after the dragons cinematic
He got the big sad
thinking and eating cake
we actually haven't had an update on Hanzo since the Reflections comic come to think of it
literally no lore since 2016 wow
Hanzo ate some rice
Source -april fools ult voice line
yeah wow, Hanzo is the only original release hero we haven't had an update on nor any new lore for the longest amount of time
Gonna see what heâs up to in the 2024 anthology đŒ
when was the last time we saw Doomfist?
hero of numbani should be the most recent right?
I think so?
1: make her more active in the battlefield
2. And make her more committal
3. maintain hee hacker persona (so theyâre not removing hack or stealth
They wanna keep hee as a hacker
was the most recent time we saw Symmetra in the "Stone by Stone" short story?
and was the last time we saw Moira really in Retribution and her origin story?!
Hanzo will be in hero ascendants atleast (I think thatâs the name)
I mean, I guess we sort of get tidbits of his life through Dragons and Kirikoâs story?
Yeah Moira update would be nice
no hes from
I know we just got the Sojourn and Bastion/Torb lorebits but they took place before the PvE and were released so close to PvE I figured it didn't matter
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PVE was the mission ones right?
yes I lumped in all 3 Invasion missions as PvE
*laughs in Orisa and Wrecking Ball
I should probably rename it to "Invasion"
Oh mbbb
also sigmas primary fire isnt very close range
..
What I mean is, all the tanks (besides Orisa) are really good with their primary's close range, deals more damage than long range.
K back to lore
what overwatch heros are gay
Soldier
Your pfp has ears now.....
Doom was in storm rising
Moira fans starving
but Hero of Numbani is more recent, both chronologically and in release order
Storm Rising was 2019 I think
Oh, I thought it would be later since ram is teased there
why not doom fist
bc... he's not
i don't think doom has any romantic interest in anyone so i guess he's undetermined?
im not gay but doomfist đ„”
although the whole gauntlet passing down the generations thing imply that he is most likely straight / bi
I'm pretty sure the Doomfist lore goes like this:
-he becomes the 3rd Doomfist
-(Retribution happens)
-he kills Viali and becomes head of Talon
-Storm Rising happens
-the battle in Singapore happens and DF is arrested by OW - Winston, Tracer, Genji (DF origin story)
-He escapes (DF origin story)
-Hero of Numbani happens
why?
Um no? He killed his mentor to get the gauntlet
congrats
if you want to fanboy over a character i suggest you take it to #overwatch
cuz in order to have a child you need a parter of the opposite gender lol
doom doesnt have children
but i was wrong about the generational relic thing so yeah
no i know but like if it was a "pass down the gauntlet father to son" type of thing
mentor to mentr-ee?
i guess the only thing doom loves is world domination 
Every time the gauntlet was passed to someone else, the current owner was killed by next owner
Saviour got killed by scourge, scourge got killed by Akande
None of them were related afaik
nah they better remove stealth or not make it perma
so like it was in overwatch
Hammond not being seen since his origin trailer is crazy
Heâs getting new lore soon thankfully đ
and yet he's going to be in two stories in Heroes Ascendent... I kind of hope that it's because that's the last we're going to hear from him in a while and the rest of the stories in the anthology are drawing the other heroes closer to the story in some way
What are genjis, hanzos and kirikos ages respectfully?
Look at pinned
We don't know bro
How the hell did they âtrain together as kidsâ
yeah it doesnt make sense
Hammond and Winston need to make up
genii and hanzo got put in a freezer for 20 years
they became mei
ong
kiri only has to be like fiveish years older for it to make sense
mei found hanzo and genji while in antarctica
Let my girl be in her late 20s blizzard âčïžâčïžâčïžđđđ
Thatâs not right either
If kiri was 5 years older hanzo would still be 14 years older
it's at least reasonable though
I'd think she needs to be 27-29 ideally
but it's been harped on to death at this point...
how long ago did genji "die"?
i thought the twelve years thing was pre timeskip?
20 year old and 6 year old training AS KIDS is fine?
nothing said they trained together as kids
they just trained together
hanzo wasnt a kid
kiri was
Tbf I guess itâs not that odd for your teacherâs kid to also be training alongside you
like i think its a lot more believable for genji to be 15 hanzo 18 and kiri 6 here than kiri 6 genji 22 hanzo 25
and it would make with her bio and when sojiro died
because if shes 21 theres issues with the origin and sojiro/genji would've died 9 years ago
I feel like the main issue with this is that Hanzo and Genji look much younger in the art than their supposed ages
Hanzo Looks literally like his dadâs clone thatâs wild
Genji probably got momâs genes since he doesnât look similar
Angry eyebrows
:(( irl
I know itâs a stupid theory but
nahhhđđ
What if Sojiro had an affair
@celest dirge LMAOO
Shimada dad had an affair with kirikos mom theory
She's kinda real for that
what kind
furry
I'm getting wendys
Off topic đ
Grr
We need mattpatt on this one
Who
matthew patthew
matpat is a youtuber who makes theories on games
i think the implication is that he could "solve" this and like confirm whether or not sojiro had an affair with asa
so would you call it
a game theory
Genji doesn't look like Asa
They're brothers
!!shitposting
Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
Huh? I didnât stray from the topic of lore though
I guess it was âdeliberately provocativeâ in a way so I wonât argue
I really donât want to lose access so Iâll tone it down 
womp womp
Kirikos last name is kamori or yamagami
When kiriko was introduced ?
she was released upon ow2's launch but she was teased a bit before then
Year before with kanekaza
she was released on 4 october 2022
Hey itâs 4 October today
Youâre a day early
Oops I forgotâŠ

it's Kamori - she took her grandmother's last name to protect her mother from potential retribution from the Hashimoto if she got caught
@last pasture u mind accepting fr real quick?
Oh
Was Kirikoâs mom captured to make better weaponry for the hashimotos?
She was in the cinematic đ
Shush itâs been like a year since I saw it
didnt it come out less than a year ago
anyone wanna 1v1 only dps and around gold/silver/ low plat phara and junkerat is banned DM me
Wrong channel
Huh what are the odds I ask a day before her birthday
its maugin' time
well her birthday is actually july 7th but kinda
im surprised no one shares a birthday
like theres math done on this and theres like a 85% chance there would be a shared birthday
none born in august either
i wonder how they picked
or on the 24th of any month
and ana i feel like
so genji is hanzos older brother
Japanese Irish twins lol
i dont get why bastion is unknown but ram and zen is
Nah
Where is mama shimada đđ
ah yes my favourite overwatch hero
Even in the Kiriko story thing we only see sojiro shimada
Lifeweavers bday is arbor day
I bet that's on purpose
damn i really thought winston would have some space thing on his b-day
but the only like rocket launches are like this
thought sigma would have something with a black hole
this happened on hammonds birthday but i highly doubt thats why they chose it
Itâs crazy to think about how we are older than every ow hero
yeah even like sigma would be a baby rn if he would even be born at all
#lore-discussion message based on this sigma would be either 9 or 5
Yo
Reaper is gonna be born next month
If we go with 2083
If anyone here is expecting a baby boy on December 14 and has the last name Reyes, consider Gabriel
Lmao that would be amazing
Ummm, anyone wanna play PS4 overwatch?? 13-15 England or Scotland only please!!! Ask for snap if you want đ -have some humour please-
wrong channel
Ik, i cba looking for them đ
!!lfg
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it would be pretty cool if the current year was 2083 bc that would make junkrat born in the year of the rat
if they did that
it would be more effort into the birthdates than the anniversary event
Welp. Didnât think the crossover would be with Diablo, but it doesnât look disappointing
Moiraâs skin fits her perfectly too
And looks like like a better game mode than the one used last Halloween
Why the spoilers..?
Did you grab leaks, or are they just screenshots from the teaser?
Okay, looking at it, they're just screenshots from the teaser.
DHE LOOKS SO GOOD MY WIFE
The last shot literally look like Lilith from Diablo, and I am so for it
I guess it look cool. Donât know anything bout Diablo tho
But it is cool to get a new Halloween event and on a different map too
We're getting the trailer tomorrow.
Let's hope it leads us the right direction.
From what I know, the start of Season 7 is on a Tuesday.
Canât wait for more hero masteries soon
Looking forward to D.Va, Junkratty and Orisa especially
I can't wait for Lucio hero mastery and seeing people speedrunning it
anyone tryna join a goofy ass vc rn or nah
It'll be so smooth
Also ball skin
Its 10th oct yes
They said so in the samoa showcase
From what we know, the Halloween event ties into te collab event.
Whats wrecking balls lore i never knew it lol
origin story.
Yeah
He was on the same moon colony that Winston was in. When the other apes took over the place and killed the scientists, WB latched onto Winston's escape pod without him knowing and landed in Australia. There he fought in cage matches with his mech that was made from his own latched escape pod, and become Junkertown's Champion and possibly even the right-hand man to the Queen
Seeing as he's the only playable junker that isn't on JQâs shit list
Still wanna know what is going on at the colony with the apes going Ceasar on everyone
Winston and Hammond did name drop one of the apes, Hypatia, ages ago so maybe sheâs the one running shit up there
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Try out this brand-new ability as part of her rework in #Overwatch2 Season 7, launching October 10.
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That will certainly be interesting. But sadly makes me think something in her kit is leaving
Hopefully not
Thereâs only two possibilities of this rework
People are gonna love it
Or people are gonna hate it
I mean, Sombra feels kinda useless as a DPS right now
This rework could be the thing to change that
But still, this can only really mean this will be the end of one of her abilities
it's replacing Stealth, which is now automatic
Ah. Well, I guess thatâs a relief
Although, I can already hear people complain over her stealth being OP or something
If itâs a passive now, I kinda doubt it, but we will see
Not as bad as I pictured
beans
I just wanna see the roadhog rework in the midseason
Not sure what to expect with his rework, but hopefully something that makes him a tougher tank
How he stands right now, heâs pushing bottom with Ball and Winston
No offense to any Ball or Winston players
What is this ram skin supposed to be đ
The Colonel?
looks like heâs supposed to dictate a middle eastern country
Looks kinda like The Colonel from Murder Mystery
Itâs a Halloween skin right
Looks like it
Would make sense for his nightmare to be transformed into a human (like some time ago they made cyborg torb as his nightmare) right?
But heâs still on omnic here, just looks like a human kinda because of the clothes đ
Iâm sure thereâs media reference weâre not seeing here
little gay Italian boy
If we saw his Nemesis form with it, we may get it
He should have a jekyl and hyde skin
I assumed that is what it was, but the man was a doctor. Not what looks like an officer of sorts
it's called Diesel Baron
I was just thinking something. He could be in a Steampunk theme skin
Although, might be a reference to the Chem Barons of LoL
or the concept of Oil Barons
not really. i mean vishkar was said to be moral before they took a dark turn
the "big corpo" Blizzard aren't the ones making the skins
They allowed it as a Halloween skin 
These Halloween skins are fun
i love reggie...
Why did hanzo f Genji up I'm kinda new to lore
iirc cause the clan they both were part of wanted genji to mature (he refused), and hanzo needed to do it to be the new boss
The clanâs elders pushed him to bring his carefree brother, Genji, into lineâleading to a confrontation where Hanzo struck Genji down.
Upon the death of his father, the clan elders instructed Hanzo to straighten out his wayward younger brother, Genji, so that he, too, might help rule the Shimada empire. When Genji refused, Hanzo was forced to kill him.
Following the clan leader's untimely death, Genji's older brother, Hanzo, demanded that Genji take a more active role in their late father's empire. Genji refused, enraging Hanzo. The tension between the brothers built to a violent confrontation that left Genji on the verge of death.
U can dm if u got any questions
Aight
thanks
the hollywood guy
F it. I donât know anything bout Diablo, but the coming event looks đ„
And that Moira skin looks awesome as Hell fr
I feel like..
That would've made more sense
Instead of giving another skin to Pharah
Pharah makes sense with the silhouette
Pharah is just fortunate to get skins often
Tis a shame.
It canât always be helped
she's easy to design for
some heroes are difficult to design for, like Sigma and Orisa
Heck. Ana for example still has more Halloween skins then most I think
I always thought he was an easier design due to a good amount of ideas you can make with him
Also, Orisa skin, quack
Funny Zen and Orisa arenât getting Halloween skins this year
Bathtime Zenyatta.
Honestly, I almost feel those skins would have fit better with Summer, but it is what it is
this caught me so off guard
This is a great skin, I love it
I also love the new event skin for hamston
Is Hanzo's new mythic based on/ inspired by anything?
hello all, i have a question. I was looking for Overwatch interations audio for a potential animation and found this interaction of Lucio and Torbjörn on overwatch fandom site but can't seem to find the audio anywhere online. Does anyone know if this is a real interaction?
LĂșcio: Brigitte tells me you can dance, but I won't believe it until I see it!
Torbjörn: (Chuckle) Are you sure you'll be able to handle it?
LĂșcio: (Laugh) Try me!
Yeah an onryo is a Japanese belief
Iâve never heard it in game, it might be from ow1
it makes him look like he has hair and i hate it
ikr! she just had a skin this season
i hope its not in the BP again
Itâs not, itâs in the ultimate bundle
It's not.
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Parle tu français ou ta utilisé Google traduction?
What if junk was a monkey he shoots coconuts out of a banana themed launcher and is a monkey for his body (kinda obvious) and his mines were grass covered dirt piles his detonator was a banana and his trap was a grassy outside with some coconuts in the middle
Legit just thought of that in like 5 min so idk
Would be a very nice skin
Yea I would use it
I mean king Jamison is the only one I use cuz it looks the best and I've never switched but if I got a skin that I designed then I would switch between the 2
Illari has pve voice lines
OMG I WANNA USE HER ULT IN A PVE MODE
Was she available in any mission?
No she has voice lines from invasion
One of them is Toronto mission
Maybe theyâll add mode with all heroes and thatâs why those lines are there
Like with ow1 story missions
She will be available in the Diablo Halloween mission
Sombra, Zarya, Illari, Lifeweaver, Reinhardt, Pharah
where are you getting these pve lines info from?
And given how they force 1/2/1... You're gonna be forced to have Sombra and Pharah every game. Rein/Zarya and Illari/Lifeweaver are the flexible ones.
But I expect Rein/Lifeweaver to be the goto pick.
Thereâs videos with datamined voice lines
I know but she has voice lines from Toronto mission (talking about ferry)
And kings row mission possibly cuz she has repair station voice lines as well
link pls?
đȘ You are passing through a galaxy with countless planets, floating involuntarily in orbit. You pass meteorites and asteroids that, with their speed and size, make life in space not as it might seem. After light years in space, you end up on a planet where you hear all the issues of your favorite game characters in all available languages. Do yo...
it's awesome to speculate on
however there are still voicelines that were datamined years ago that aren't used still... could go either way I guess
but maybe for future seasons they'll have some kind of washed-down all-heroes version of the Invasion missions without cinematics and all that?
I know for a fact you could play other than story heroes in ow1 story missions
Or maybe main missions were supposed to have modifiers like the kings row mission
Maybe will be added in next pve campaign
Yeah like the OW1 all heroes mode for story missions
Basically just plunking in 4 different heroes and stripping the lore voicelines from it
She's chooseable in the new one
in the past they've expanded Junkenstein's Revenge to include a couple new heroes each year, definitely something they'll keep doing for the Bride version
Lifeweaver 
out of the playable roster, which characters apart from Mercy are pacifists?
also would Lucio have a grudge against Symmetra and Lifeweaver?
Lifeweaver and Lucio seem to actually get along decently well
But Symettra and Lucio do not like each other
Mercy isn't a pacifist
Lucio and basically all of rio don't like vishkar and in turn don't like sym but sym and lucio have had a nice-ish interaction recently so I think that grudge over time will go away especially as sym is questioning if vishkar is even a good company
But lucio and Weaver are chill
And I don't think anyone in this game is a pacifist really
Closest would be zen
there's a line where Soldier accuses Zen of being a pacifist
I reckon closest would be lifeweaver
Zenyatta: What makes you think I am a pacifist?
Soldier: 76: You sure talk like one.
Zenyatta: Perhaps it is assumptions that are foolish.```
Mercy wants peace, but will fight when necessary
do the anniversary achievements not give you the credits they said they will?
log in between oct 10 and oct 16 and you'll get 3000 credits
they screwed up the challenges, so they're doing that instead
so like automatically 3000? or do i need to do all the challenges
automatically
oh damn
I think so too
His main goal isn't fighting at all
It's healing
i thought mercy disliked any type of violence
disliking violence doesn't make you a pacifist
"a person who believes that war and violence are unjustifiable"
sounds pretty much like mercy to me
is it really going into combat if all she does is heal?
I don't think i've ever seen or read about her inflicting any type of harm to anyone
unless i'm missing info
she carries a pistol
isn't the point of self-defense to protect against violence
I assume she would use it when needed
Pretty sure she never said she was a pacifist, just totally against her tech being weaponized
well i'm still only half-convinced but i guess i'll go with your opinion(s) for now
lol
What is bobs lore? What is he supposed to do that he isnt? (Im serious. Once I heard a character interaction where bob is insinuated to be like a servant of some kind that needs to be freed???)
I only got the 3000 original from before, I didnât get 3000 more
Heâs been Asheâs butler for a while and somewhat raised her as a child. During the time all the omnics gained sentience he also went away; he came back, though.
it's not Oct 10 yet
He was a butler out of code at first but then became a butler to Ashe out of his own will post-Omnic Crisis
Stockholm syndrome đ
Parents when they develop stockholm syndrome to their children
stockholm syndrome isn't a real thing anyway
I think rammatra and zenyatta both got ptsd when talking about their âinspirationalâ animals or insects to Lucio
what makes you say that?
So there is 1 voice line of Lucio saying âwhat is your favorite animalâ zen and rammatra both tell him they find ants âinspirationalâ both knowing of their master and brotherhood and the situation that they will always be in like conflict and more.
They both have different reasons for liking them tho, and both make sense for their characters, zen idk anymore but rama thinks its interesting how they work so well together and build marvelous structures. Its basically what he wishes the world was like, everyone working together to build a better future
Idk what ur trying to say tho
Affirmative words brother, Affirmative words.
Hello! I have heard before (a lot) about a new tank? Called Maugal, or something like that. Is this character mentioned before in any lore?
Mauga, heâs a talon heavy brute and an old friend of baptisteâs. If u wanna know more about him u can read bapâs short story somewhere in the pins
His room was also seen in the new Samoa map so heâs more than likely the next tank in s8
probably not relevant but Sigma also has a voiceline interaction with S76 where he remarks how remarkable ants are (Sigma is ignoring that S76 told him to snap out of it and instead is focused on an ant on the ceiling)
there are so many "hivemind" motifs in the game especially with omnics, pre- AND post-Awakening
so many hexagons and things clustered in sets of 6
basically Aurora's awakening "broke" the hivemind code of the omnics somehow so now they have free will
Ramattra wants omnics to work together again, or wants them to want to work together again or whatever, to ensure their future as a race
Mainly that they specifically showed it off
U can also just read his wiki
Yeah true, itâs gonna be cool actually looking around it in game on Tuesday
That too yeah
How did lifeweaver come into the lore
never
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does doomfist know kiriko's mom? in an interaction between genji and doomfist doom asks genji who taught him how to use a sword, genji says "the best swords master in the world". doom kisses his teeth and says " her..". in another interaction where kiriko kills doom and he respawns, he says "certainly her mothers daughter". i'm too curious not to ask đđ
in lore we've never seen them meet
Asa has a reputation
I saw an idea of ow2 being a separate timeline from ow1 and the tracers from each game arnt the same character
Idk i just thought it was a cool idea
there isnt really a reason to think that
Theres no proof its just a fun âwhat ifâ
I could imagine tracer blinking going wrong and she ended up in a different timeline were kiriko and jq existed and sojurn was always apart of ow
so then the tracer from ow1 and ow2 would be the same?
everyone else would be different
Sojourn and queen already existed in ow1
Just not as playable heroes
Wait really?
Sojourn was the one who commanded storm rising, the third archive mission
And I think junker queen always spoke on the loudspeakers in junkertown
Junkrat and Roadhog cinematic revolves around them trying to trick the queen into letting them in
Oh yeah I forgot about that, I love that cinematic lmao
Pretty sure sojourn was also among agents in recall cinematic
Yeah she probably was
yeah, Sojourn and JQ and Ramattra were in OW1
Pea đ«đ
Bro def hit and left
Asa is probably the person who told Sojiro not to trust Talon
The way junk delivers âmoney and Explosivesâ gets me every time
I never wouldâve thought of that for these skins
Kinda reminds me of the Jokerz from Batman Beyond
wasnt the Roadhog one in OW1 though? why does it only cost coins??
Roadhog, Junkrat and Sombra are all skins from OW1
i dont remember seeing the roadhog one though
they should all be buyable with creds if you go through heroes instead right?
nope its not in the gallery
same with sombra but it was only available to those who bought the game before a certain date around the time the OW2 betas were held iirc
i got mime cuz moira looks so stupid
Moira skins r so goofy lookin
it was a challenge skin from 2021
i dont get why those just vanish from the gallery if you didnt obtain them
so your gallery doesn't get cluttered with unobtainable skins?
soldier and reaper?
what about them
Are you like, asking about their relationship?
Cause they were coworkers and friends but became enemies
Ex boyfriends
incorrect
Nuh uh
That would be Vincent
The lack of Vincent in fanart is đ
false
yes
Yeah
76/Jack Morrison's ex-boyfriend
đĄ
He's so goofy looking bro đđ
dont be mad because its not a thing đ
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this isn't the place for joking
is there a connection between Dva And Lucio?
and they're both in Overwatch now
21

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Something small to look forward to
This will be the first time Mercy finally gets a new Halloween skin since the first Junkensteinâs Revenge from OW1
Iâve been cooking for a month for this
Arenât solider and Lucio brothers?
no
i dont even know what led you to this conclusion
Soldier is quite a bit older then Lucio đ
i believe soldier is old enough to be lucio's dad
Fr lol
No but like even if you put âshow unavailableâ it doesnât show up
Unless itâs in shop currently
Yo i have question why is lucio banned from Brazil
he isn't
Im i tripping I swear I heard somewhere hes like banned from Brazil and it confused me
I think they meant wanted
Isnt it because he stole the things for his equipment
he's wanted by Vishkar for stealing tech from them
but he's not banned from anywhere
Yea I think the person that said it must of misworded it or something
He stole back his father's stolen tech basically. Hes wanted for it but not banned as he still lives there
whose vishkar? cbf about lifeweavers lore so..
Vishkar is funny light company that sym works at
yes an?
ok
you think zen hasnt killed anyone after the crisis?
probably not
like hes said hes not a pacisfist but i dont think he'd kill anyone
he kinda let himself get kidnapped in pve without trying to fight or kill sombra and widow
i think he falls into the category of no unnecessary killing
he can kick ass for sure though
he's not kidnapped yet
they just found him
or "found him" was said, to whom there is question on that lol
vishkar is a company consisting of architects and scientists whose obj is to improve the world, but bc one of the higher ups is secretly a member of talon (I forgot his name) he uses his influence to harm the world. He did so in rio thus lucio hates vishkar. Also bc of his actions sym wonders if vishkar really is good. (fact check me on all of this pls cuz this is all from my garbage memory)
Under the guise of "helping rebuild," Vishkar wants to rebuild destroyed and impoverished cities and neighborhoods - but to their own standards, which are "perfect," but also assumedly easily-governable etc etc. They're essentially getting rid of all the culture and anything that gives the place personality, warts and all, for a dystopian sameness. That's why many places don't like Vishkar
Sanjay has also used illegal and violent methods to get contracts to build/rebuild in these areas as well (see "A Better World" comic)
thanks i will
oh and Vishkar also takes in promising highly intelligent children as their students who become their employees, and Vishkar claims ownership of their ideas. This happened to Lucio's father and Lifeweaver is currently wanted by Vishkar for absconding with "their" tech that he developed (biolight)
Vishkar are basically the Lord Farquaad of the OW universe
Sanjay is the vishkar architect on the talon council
No it's not rare you just have to learn how to harness iy
That's what the academy is for
For real
Oh yeah I forgot about that
It is pretty rare, Sym is described as "one of the few"
After she was identified as one of the few capable of becoming a light-bending architech...
I just wonder if it's a genetically predispositioned ability or an ability that can only be done by those intelligent to do it
i.e. can any genius learn it or is there more to it than that?
I know we haven't seen omnics as hard light architects (as far as I know?) but can they manipulate it?
Hmm
I thought everyone at the academy could lightbend?
And there's not enough information on how you get into the academy anywaus
Maybe you just have to be smart enough
yes, but they're selected to join the academy based on their light manipulating abilities or potential
How do they figure that out?
dunno yet
It's kinda confusing imo
Since hardlight is completely scientific how can only certain people use it
idk, maybe the same way only certain people have photographic memories? something like that?
I'm reminded of the guy that was taken on a helicopter ride over a city, not for very long, and later on was able to draw the entire city in a crazy amount of photo-precise detail from just his memory alone - maybe it's an ability like that?
Itâs likely that only some people can manipulate it efficiently
Could have something close to illari abilities where like she had some sun power inside her
Id assume itâs just physically difficult to manipulate
And Symmetra is just better with the âflowâ of it cause of her dance incorporations or smth
Yes I wasn't denying that I was just confused on how
I'm wondering why only some people can use it
its possible it was supposed to be like shimada dragons where like its genetic or smth
shimada dragons arent hardlight rn but i think its possible they were supposed to be hardlight at some point
if hardlight was genetic it would be a lot easier to find people who can manipulate it
hardlight is useable by a select few because of the skill needed to manipulate it - some people just have a knack for it
like Symmetra
what are the dragons then
spirits
also, shimada dragons? thought only hanzo had 1
genji also has one
oh fucking hell magic in my overwatch
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and in dragons hanzos is depicted as two right?
probably just because thats how it is in game though it probably doesnt mean anything
mk ty
I always liked the theory that one of his dragons was his fatherâs but itâs most likely not gonna be a thing đ
the Kiriko spray depicts only one dragon for Hanzo
so two appearing for the attack is probably just a cosmetic thing
I thought hanzoâs two dragons was supposed to represent his inner conflict
Nah I always know it was supposed to be one cuz the story
But if I were to give an unbased theory based on what I read here, it could be Hanzo's turmoil splitting his own dragon in two
It's most likely to differenciate his dragons from Genji's dragons.
But it's like two halves dragon
also probably to fill up the circle hitbox more
Nope
Hanzos two dragons are jjsg for the hitbox
And gameplay
One dragon would look weird
I thought the dragons represented soul and body
Since genjis body was destroyed, he only had one
Initially, Hanzo had one dragon but apparently a lot of people complained about the misleading hitbox of the ultimate so they made it two
Was Hanzo released before the cinematic?
yes
Then they probably just changed the details of the animations a little before releasing
To match the in-game
They wouldn't have to
Dragons released nearly 2 years after
They wouldn't have started it yet
I like Leoâs idea
I always kind of assumed it was because half of Genji's body is just gone. Like the energy needed to control the Shimada dragons is tied to one's life force. Kind of like how Darth Vader's force capabilities diminished when he became a cyborg in Star Wars
Hanzo refers to the dragon as singular in all his voice lines
in dragons they also call it 1 dragon
I like mine
ya des gens pour faire de la ra,ked libre ?
Wrong channel, and that's not English.

You're writing in the lore channel
Eh un français miracle
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Do they explain in the lore why Cassidy's names changed??
No
Itâs the same reason
Yâa lco si jamais tu veux un serv avec des fr
i thought the explanation was that cass was his real name and mcree was like a fake name he just used because he was like hanging out with criminals
Go in DM for this
I just thought he changed his name himself
Why? I say nothing who needs to go dm
It isn't a French discord here.
And this is a lore channel
For this my bad im sorry
Np
But for this
He never say anywhere i cant speak french if i would like hé gave no rules to say that
I know my english is really bad
Perhaps but the rules want us to speak english here.
Where is this rule
Yeah where? 
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