#lore-discussion

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worn latch
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Lmao

distant sparrow
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whats so bad about working at vishkar

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good job, good pay, minimal effort

worn latch
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Oh man

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Ok ur trolling

distant sparrow
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just because he's a lazy fatass

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couldn't be bothered to get a job 💀

golden oak
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Not working, he would go to jail

distant sparrow
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i mean before he was on the run

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why did he leave

worn latch
distant sparrow
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even if he doesn't want to work there nobody wants to work he just has 2 do it

distant sparrow
worn latch
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He left because they would've used biolight for their own purposes which would've hurt the world instead of healing it like he wanted

worn latch
distant sparrow
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why doesnt he just.. work and make bank

worn latch
worn latch
golden oak
distant sparrow
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how would vishkar even hurt the world

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i mean they have sym so they're already the most evil faction but apart from that whats so bad about em

golden oak
distant sparrow
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ok.. another bad thing they did?

golden oak
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Blackmail

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Assassinations

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They made symmetra kill somebody I think

azure bluff
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Being corporate scum

distant sparrow
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ok

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how does biolight hurt the world in vishkar's hands

golden oak
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Yeah being a big corpo also

golden oak
distant sparrow
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why would vishkar use it

azure bluff
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How does any potential weapon hurt the world in the hands of a company that seeks only to make profit?

worn latch
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Someone mute this guy fr

distant sparrow
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they wont exactly have a customer base if they use it as a bio weapon

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i know sym is a dumbass but even she doesnt wanna destroy the world probably

azure bluff
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Destroy competition. Become monopoly. Enslave the planet.

golden oak
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A terrorist organisation

distant sparrow
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ok

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you avoided the question

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i asked why would they use biolight as a weapon

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you just said they work with talon

azure bluff
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To destroy their competition and subjegate people

distant sparrow
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so they deploy a bioweapon in their competitions hq, lets say that gets out and then suddenly an entire city is dead

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i doubt they're stupid enough to use it

azure bluff
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That's not the nature of biolight though

distant sparrow
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it was specified as a bio weapon

golden oak
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Well biolight also has medical uses so they could poison people, then make them buy expensive cures

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Or something

distant sparrow
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mm yes im sure doctors and government wont be suspicous when they find biolight in patient's bodies

worn latch
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I'm sure that the government can be bribed

golden oak
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If it leaves trails

distant sparrow
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depends on the government

golden oak
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We don’t know exactly how biolight works

distant sparrow
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so how can you claim it can be used as a bioweapon

golden oak
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Biolight itself is an abstract concept

golden oak
distant sparrow
golden oak
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He’s a scientist

worn latch
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Sigma is literally one of the smartest characters in overwatch

distant sparrow
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also insane and mentally fractured

golden oak
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And a former friend of mercy

distant sparrow
worn latch
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Ok

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I obviously meant the game

distant sparrow
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specify overwatch 2 then

worn latch
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No!

golden oak
celest dirge
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💀

distant sparrow
celest dirge
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what kind of logic is that

distant sparrow
celest dirge
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what does this mean

distant sparrow
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he cant say im weird 💀

merry mason
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You’re overthinking it. Viskar would surely monopolize biolight, allowing them to further their reach. It’s not about bio weapons

celest dirge
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idk man ur bringing up something that had nothing to do w lore shrug

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all they did was not put the 2 after overwatch

worn latch
# distant sparrow

The whole reason you're even talking here was because you wanted to insult lifeweaver I think you're pretty strange

distant sparrow
distant sparrow
merry mason
celest dirge
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yeah bc u were the one who brought up lw after they didn’t put a number after Overwatch

distant sparrow
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dont like it? dont respond

distant sparrow
worn latch
distant sparrow
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that sorta got nuked years ago

rare trail
merry mason
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OW1 is OW2 they’re the same game

celest dirge
distant sparrow
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technically no

celest dirge
merry mason
golden oak
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Besides, lifeweaver himself doesn’t deny that it can be used as a weapon
(Plus he’s literally using it as a weapon himself)

worn latch
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If I say overwatch I mean the game you can just use common sense it's not that difficult

distant sparrow
distant sparrow
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nothing lifeweaver does is a bio weapon

merry mason
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Thorns

distant sparrow
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i mean i guess you could technically argue tree of life but that's the opposite of one

distant sparrow
merry mason
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It’s bio it’s a weapon good enough for me

worn latch
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If he can make the thorns vishkar can figure out a way to turn biolight into a weapon for their own purposes

golden oak
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No but it could be used that way since sigma calls it “self propagating biomass”

distant sparrow
worn latch
golden oak
distant sparrow
golden oak
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So why do you argue still

worn latch
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Not even giving any actual proof or reasoning for your opinions ur just talking

distant sparrow
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or did discord remove that? i forget

distant sparrow
azure bluff
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That's just semantics

golden oak
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Maybe you shouldn’t be usually online

distant sparrow
peak escarp
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both of you

golden oak
peak escarp
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stop

golden oak
distant sparrow
azure bluff
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A weapon of biological nature is a bioweapon.

distant sparrow
peak escarp
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@distant sparrow if you're just here to insult people then I'm gonna have to ask you to leave

distant sparrow
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im not here to insult

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ill stop

peak escarp
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then contribute meaningful discussion

distant sparrow
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i thought a debate over the possibility of biolight being a bioweapon was meaningful

peak escarp
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biolight has the potential to be used as a bioweapon, which is part of why Lifeweaver wants to keep it out of Vishkar's hands

golden oak
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You were arguing just to argue

azure bluff
peak escarp
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the other reason is to prevent Vishkar from hoarding it and monopolizing it

distant sparrow
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so now.. why doesnt LW ingame just murder everybody ingame except the omnics and reaper immediately

peak escarp
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because he's not evil

distant sparrow
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i mean when he uses his weapons

worn latch
golden oak
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You really think someone who calls himself lifeweaver would do that?

peak escarp
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just because something can be used as a weapon doesn't mean that it's a weapon every time it's used

distant sparrow
golden oak
peak escarp
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take botulinum for example - it can be toxic, but it can also be used in cosmetic procedures

distant sparrow
azure bluff
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It seems like LW has control over the biolight, hence it not instantly killing everyone, if that's what you mean by why doesn't he kill everyone?

distant sparrow
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but why did you bolden the life if you didnt mean that part of the sentence specifically

golden oak
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Bro’s about to argue over every word I say
AGAIN

peak escarp
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in its current form, biolight is not a weapon

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but Vishkar could change that

distant sparrow
golden oak
distant sparrow
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he uses biolight for thorns

peak escarp
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thorns is hard light

distant sparrow
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ah mb

golden oak
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So biolight is healing blossom, platform, tree and grip?

worn latch
peak escarp
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biolight is just the tree

rare trail
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is platform hardlight?

merry mason
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Biolight can make life, there’s nothing stopping him from making bacteria.

peak escarp
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maybe the grip because it also heals

golden oak
merry mason
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I’m pretty sure at least the primary fire lotus blossom is too

worn latch
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Does the seed look metal to anyone else?

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Or is that just me

peak escarp
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seems like a capsule to deliver the biolight

worn latch
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Ohh okay yeah that makes more sense

worn latch
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"biolight texture"

peak escarp
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so maybe the thorns are biolight too

golden oak
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Hard light can be different colours tho right?

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Since the Aurora statue sym fixed was like golden hard light or something

merry mason
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Wasn’t biolight though

peak escarp
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yes

merry mason
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Presumably hardlight/ bio light can be all sorts of colors

peak escarp
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Vishkar just likes their blue aesthetic

golden oak
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I see

golden oak
paper ocean
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What would Maugas kit have? Any predictions, from what we know so far about him?

rare trail
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maybe something involving radiation or something based off the map

peak escarp
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in the short story he had dual miniguns and a barrier that deflected bullets

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but I expect that to change

merry mason
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He’s a talon assault unit but I would think they would want to make him unique

pallid garden
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Does bap actually just have tech that legit makes ppl immortal

paper ocean
peak escarp
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it's a device that creates a field that reduces damage

paper ocean
rare trail
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its shown in what you left behind

peak escarp
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it doesn't make people immortal

golden oak
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Wasn’t it in new blood also?

peak escarp
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I think severe enough damage (like standing in the middle of an explosion) would break through the field

merry mason
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Didn’t he survive standing in the middle of an explosion specifically because of the field though

rare trail
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didnt he almost die though

peak escarp
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he wasn't in the middle of it

merry mason
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Fair enough

peak escarp
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it was closer to Mauga than him

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and yeah, he was still pretty hurt from it

merry mason
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That lines up with its in game ability too

paper ocean
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What is D.Va's eating matrix thingy made out of ?

merry mason
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It’s a projection of the area that the mech shoots down projectiles

golden oak
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Lasers? Idk

spare fox
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but the bio thingy in Mauga's hut seems to imply his kit is some kind of AOE aspect

merry mason
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Maybe they replace the canisters on the back of the heavies

golden oak
rare trail
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bio thingy?

golden oak
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So maybe like tremor powers

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Like breach from valorant

spare fox
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I can't remember. I know the warning symbol wasn't radiation

peak escarp
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could be like that gas attack they gave Hog in an experimental patch that one time

spare fox
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bio-hazard?

paper ocean
merry mason
spare fox
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Biohazard cannister

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yes that

spare fox
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it's probably going to be AOE and probably bad for the enemy team

golden oak
paper ocean
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What abilities has he used in like, comics

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Or do they even show him in action?

golden oak
spare fox
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shield and mini guns

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yeah

paper ocean
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So Bastion x Rien????

peak escarp
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yes

spare fox
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but he did totally get wrecked at the end of the story so that leaves room for a total rework

peak escarp
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but I expect it to be different in game

spare fox
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"he used to a have a shield until he was injured" etc etc

paper ocean
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Off topic question, but what is Sombra's rework gonna do

celest dirge
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they said like

spare fox
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nobody knows yet except devs

celest dirge
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it’s supposed to emphasize her role as a hacker

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so we can only speculate for now

paper ocean
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Oh good, as long as they don't get rid of her title as hacker/infiltrator

celest dirge
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they’re trying to further uhhh

spare fox
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they wouldn't do that

celest dirge
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what’s the word

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they’re trying to make that more apparent

steel cosmos
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the word is

celest dirge
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as what im assuming is that they don’t feel like she’s playing her role as a hacker well enough

paper ocean
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....

celest dirge
paper ocean
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SOMBRA PLAYERS GO AROUND HACKING EVERYTHING/ONE SHE CAN

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How is she not playing her role enough????

celest dirge
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take everything i said w a grain of salt

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im not entirely sure what the rework is that’s just what i can remember

paper ocean
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Hold please 🙂

celest dirge
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i wish i had image perms i would show u

fresh rock
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Send the image to me

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I gotcha'

celest dirge
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bet

fresh rock
paper ocean
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"doesn't wantt to nerd her" HAH we'll see abt that

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What does "to uphold her present hacker iditification and play fashion" mean

celest dirge
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probably what it’s saying

azure bluff
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Presumably that they still want her to be a sneaky saboteur

celest dirge
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i think blizzard just doesn’t like what sombra has going on rn

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i hope this doesn’t become a spy from tf2 situation

azure bluff
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I mean, even as a Sombra main I can understand why people find her incredibly frustrating to play against

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But this is getting out of lore territory and into balance/gameplay

celest dirge
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oh yeah

paper ocean
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In Infiltration, Sombra is seen hacking some stuff in her surroundings, as she is chasing Katya. Could that be a possibility. (far chance, but still)

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Wait, nvm I guess that'd be dificult to put in game :/

zenith mango
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Do we know anything about what hanzo did after the dragons cinematic

azure bluff
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He got the big sad

spare fox
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thinking and eating cake

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we actually haven't had an update on Hanzo since the Reflections comic come to think of it

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literally no lore since 2016 wow

fast charm
spare fox
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yeah wow, Hanzo is the only original release hero we haven't had an update on nor any new lore for the longest amount of time

merry token
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Gonna see what he’s up to in the 2024 anthology đŸ˜Œ

spare fox
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when was the last time we saw Doomfist?

rare trail
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hero of numbani should be the most recent right?

spare fox
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I think so?

ruby ridge
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They wanna keep hee as a hacker

spare fox
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was the most recent time we saw Symmetra in the "Stone by Stone" short story?

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and was the last time we saw Moira really in Retribution and her origin story?!

rare trail
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wasnt she in a talon comic

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retribution

spare fox
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right

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wow

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she and Hanzo are way overdue for a drop of lore

rare trail
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yeah

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hanzo didnt even get an origin

lavish vessel
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Hanzo will be in hero ascendants atleast (I think that’s the name)

merry token
golden oak
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Yeah Moira update would be nice

spare fox
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And S76 was in the Valkyrie short story in 2019 I think

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but also the Sojourn novel

wooden verge
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i’m really good at overwatch lore

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honzo is from great britain

steel cosmos
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no hes from

spare fox
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I know we just got the Sojourn and Bastion/Torb lorebits but they took place before the PvE and were released so close to PvE I figured it didn't matter

solemn salmon
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junkrat comes from australia

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big theory

paper ocean
spare fox
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yes I lumped in all 3 Invasion missions as PvE

vapid tusk
spare fox
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I should probably rename it to "Invasion"

paper ocean
rare trail
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also sigmas primary fire isnt very close range

paper ocean
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What I mean is, all the tanks (besides Orisa) are really good with their primary's close range, deals more damage than long range.

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K back to lore

pale turret
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what overwatch heros are gay

zenith mango
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Soldier

rare trail
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tracer pharah soldier

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baptiste is bisexual and lifeweaver is pansexual

paper ocean
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Your pfp has ears now.....

golden oak
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Oh, I thought it would be later since ram is teased there

pale turret
vapid tusk
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bc... he's not

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i don't think doom has any romantic interest in anyone so i guess he's undetermined?

pale turret
vapid tusk
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although the whole gauntlet passing down the generations thing imply that he is most likely straight / bi

spare fox
# golden oak Oh, I thought it would be later since ram is teased there

I'm pretty sure the Doomfist lore goes like this:
-he becomes the 3rd Doomfist
-(Retribution happens)
-he kills Viali and becomes head of Talon
-Storm Rising happens
-the battle in Singapore happens and DF is arrested by OW - Winston, Tracer, Genji (DF origin story)
-He escapes (DF origin story)
-Hero of Numbani happens

golden oak
vapid tusk
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oh really? didn't know that lol

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i thought it was a family thing

vapid tusk
vapid tusk
# rare trail why?

cuz in order to have a child you need a parter of the opposite gender lol

rare trail
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doom doesnt have children

vapid tusk
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but i was wrong about the generational relic thing so yeah

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no i know but like if it was a "pass down the gauntlet father to son" type of thing

ruby ridge
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mentor to mentr-ee?

vapid tusk
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i guess the only thing doom loves is world domination MercyMhm

golden oak
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Every time the gauntlet was passed to someone else, the current owner was killed by next owner

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Saviour got killed by scourge, scourge got killed by Akande

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None of them were related afaik

worthy rose
steel cosmos
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so like it was in overwatch

hollow tinsel
golden oak
past copper
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I mean. I can’t imagine a hamster is an important focus

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This isn’t Hamtaro

spare fox
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and yet he's going to be in two stories in Heroes Ascendent... I kind of hope that it's because that's the last we're going to hear from him in a while and the rest of the stories in the anthology are drawing the other heroes closer to the story in some way

zenith mango
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What are genjis, hanzos and kirikos ages respectfully?

worn latch
zenith mango
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Wtf

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Hanzo is 40 and Genji is 37

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And kiri is 21

worn latch
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We don't know bro

zenith mango
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How the hell did they “train together as kids”

rare trail
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yeah it doesnt make sense

golden oak
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Hammond and Winston need to make up

thorn tree
steel cosmos
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they became mei

thorn tree
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ong

rare trail
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kiri only has to be like fiveish years older for it to make sense

thorn tree
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mei found hanzo and genji while in antarctica

worn latch
zenith mango
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If kiri was 5 years older hanzo would still be 14 years older

rare trail
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yeah

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that would be fine

spare fox
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it's at least reasonable though

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I'd think she needs to be 27-29 ideally

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but it's been harped on to death at this point...

rare trail
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how long ago did genji "die"?

golden oak
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Somewhere around sojiro’s death

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12 years?

rare trail
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i thought the twelve years thing was pre timeskip?

golden oak
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Oh, maybe more then

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14

rare trail
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oh they should probably edit her bio then

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it says she was twelve then

zenith mango
rare trail
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nothing said they trained together as kids

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they just trained together

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hanzo wasnt a kid

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kiri was

merry token
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Tbf I guess it’s not that odd for your teacher’s kid to also be training alongside you

rare trail
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like i think its a lot more believable for genji to be 15 hanzo 18 and kiri 6 here than kiri 6 genji 22 hanzo 25

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and it would make with her bio and when sojiro died

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because if shes 21 theres issues with the origin and sojiro/genji would've died 9 years ago

merry token
golden oak
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Genji probably got mom’s genes since he doesn’t look similar

worn latch
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:(( irl

golden oak
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I know it’s a stupid theory but

worn latch
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nahhh😭😭

golden oak
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What if Sojiro had an affair

worn latch
celest dirge
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huh

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im making chicken nuggets what’s happening

worn latch
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Shimada dad had an affair with kirikos mom theory

celest dirge
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i mean


worn latch
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She's kinda real for that

celest dirge
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my dog is in the kitchen w me

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:)

steel cosmos
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what kind

celest dirge
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furry

worn latch
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I'm getting wendys

golden oak
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Off topic 😠

celest dirge
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dog PogChimp

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ok

worn latch
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Grr

golden oak
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It’s weird how we never see shimadas mom tho

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Not even mentioned

drifting epoch
golden oak
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Who

steel cosmos
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matthew patthew

rare trail
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matpat is a youtuber who makes theories on games

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i think the implication is that he could "solve" this and like confirm whether or not sojiro had an affair with asa

steel cosmos
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a game theory

peak escarp
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Genji doesn't look like Asa

vapid tusk
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Genji and Hanzo seem pretty similar

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Are they related?

twilit patrol
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They're brothers

vapid tusk
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That was sarcasm 😅

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I’m a Shimada fanatic

peak escarp
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!!shitposting

twilit nacelleBOT
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Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

vapid tusk
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Huh? I didn’t stray from the topic of lore though

peak escarp
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it was still shitposting

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shitposting doesn't mean off-topic

vapid tusk
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I guess it was “deliberately provocative” in a way so I won’t argue

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I really don’t want to lose access so I’ll tone it down BOBSweat

mighty glade
golden oak
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Kirikos last name is kamori or yamagami

spare stump
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When kiriko was introduced ?

hushed jetty
keen summit
strange violet
ruby ridge
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Hey it’s 4 October today

keen summit
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tmrw is trailer

lavish vessel
ruby ridge
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Oops I forgot


keen summit
peak escarp
peak panther
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@last pasture u mind accepting fr real quick?

vapid tusk
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Was Kiriko’s mom captured to make better weaponry for the hashimotos?

peak escarp
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her dad

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her mom still lives in Kanezaka

golden oak
vapid tusk
rare trail
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didnt it come out less than a year ago

vapid tusk
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11 months ago

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Close to a year

true roost
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anyone wanna 1v1 only dps and around gold/silver/ low plat phara and junkerat is banned DM me

vapid tusk
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Wrong channel

spare stump
young bluff
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its maugin' time

rare trail
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well her birthday is actually july 7th but kinda

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im surprised no one shares a birthday

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like theres math done on this and theres like a 85% chance there would be a shared birthday

steel cosmos
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none born in august either

rare trail
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i wonder how they picked

steel cosmos
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or on the 24th of any month

rare trail
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junkrats is pretty fire

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like only junkrat and illari seem non random idk

steel cosmos
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and ana i feel like

rare trail
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and sombra maybe?

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genji and hanzo were probably chosen to be close together

steel cosmos
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so genji is hanzos older brother

rare trail
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?

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the other way around

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hanzo is older

steel cosmos
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oh

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idk why but i thought it was the same year

spare fox
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Japanese Irish twins lol

rare trail
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i dont get why bastion is unknown but ram and zen is

rare trail
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hanzo is like 3 years older iirc

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40 vs 37

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yea

merry token
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Where is mama shimada 😔😔

steel cosmos
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ah yes my favourite overwatch hero

merry token
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Even in the Kiriko story thing we only see sojiro shimada

worn latch
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I bet that's on purpose

rare trail
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damn i really thought winston would have some space thing on his b-day

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but the only like rocket launches are like this

steel cosmos
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thought sigma would have something with a black hole

rare trail
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this happened on hammonds birthday but i highly doubt thats why they chose it

zenith mango
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It’s crazy to think about how we are older than every ow hero

rare trail
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yeah even like sigma would be a baby rn if he would even be born at all

zenith mango
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Yo

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Reaper is gonna be born next month

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If we go with 2083

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If anyone here is expecting a baby boy on December 14 and has the last name Reyes, consider Gabriel

lavish vessel
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Lmao that would be amazing

hollow elm
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Ummm, anyone wanna play PS4 overwatch?? 13-15 England or Scotland only please!!! Ask for snap if you want 🙂 -have some humour please-

steel cosmos
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wrong channel

hollow elm
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Ik, i cba looking for them 😭

rare trail
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!!lfg

twilit nacelleBOT
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rare trail
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it would be pretty cool if the current year was 2083 bc that would make junkrat born in the year of the rat

steel cosmos
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if they did that

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it would be more effort into the birthdates than the anniversary event

past copper
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Welp. Didn’t think the crossover would be with Diablo, but it doesn’t look disappointing

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Moira’s skin fits her perfectly too

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And looks like like a better game mode than the one used last Halloween

fresh rock
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Why the spoilers..?

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Did you grab leaks, or are they just screenshots from the teaser?

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Okay, looking at it, they're just screenshots from the teaser.

rapid vapor
pearl scroll
# past copper

The last shot literally look like Lilith from Diablo, and I am so for it

past copper
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I guess it look cool. Don’t know anything bout Diablo tho

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But it is cool to get a new Halloween event and on a different map too

fresh rock
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We're getting the trailer tomorrow.

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Let's hope it leads us the right direction.

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From what I know, the start of Season 7 is on a Tuesday.

steel cosmos
#

is it not a saturday?

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im pretty sure its in 10 days

past copper
#

Pretty sure they’re trying to get back to releasing things on Tuesdays again

peak escarp
#

season 7 starts on Oct 10

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they don't release patches on the weekend

lean sky
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Can’t wait for more hero masteries soon

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Looking forward to D.Va, Junkratty and Orisa especially

peak escarp
#

I can't wait for Lucio hero mastery and seeing people speedrunning it

worn trench
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anyone tryna join a goofy ass vc rn or nah

keen summit
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They said so in the samoa showcase

fresh rock
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From what we know, the Halloween event ties into te collab event.

worthy rose
#

Whats wrecking balls lore i never knew it lol

keen summit
worthy rose
#

Yeah

potent briar
#

He was on the same moon colony that Winston was in. When the other apes took over the place and killed the scientists, WB latched onto Winston's escape pod without him knowing and landed in Australia. There he fought in cage matches with his mech that was made from his own latched escape pod, and become Junkertown's Champion and possibly even the right-hand man to the Queen

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Seeing as he's the only playable junker that isn't on JQ’s shit list

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Still wanna know what is going on at the colony with the apes going Ceasar on everyone

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Winston and Hammond did name drop one of the apes, Hypatia, ages ago so maybe she’s the one running shit up there

past copper
#

That will certainly be interesting. But sadly makes me think something in her kit is leaving

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Hopefully not

zenith mango
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There’s only two possibilities of this rework

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People are gonna love it

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Or people are gonna hate it

past copper
#

I mean, Sombra feels kinda useless as a DPS right now

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This rework could be the thing to change that

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But still, this can only really mean this will be the end of one of her abilities

peak escarp
past copper
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Ah. Well, I guess that’s a relief

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Although, I can already hear people complain over her stealth being OP or something

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If it’s a passive now, I kinda doubt it, but we will see

potent briar
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Not as bad as I pictured

fossil notch
#

beans

potent briar
#

I just wanna see the roadhog rework in the midseason

past copper
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Not sure what to expect with his rework, but hopefully something that makes him a tougher tank

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How he stands right now, he’s pushing bottom with Ball and Winston

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No offense to any Ball or Winston players

golden oak
#

What is this ram skin supposed to be 💀

past copper
fossil notch
past copper
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Looks kinda like The Colonel from Murder Mystery

golden oak
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It’s a Halloween skin right

past copper
#

Looks like it

golden oak
#

Would make sense for his nightmare to be transformed into a human (like some time ago they made cyborg torb as his nightmare) right?

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But he’s still on omnic here, just looks like a human kinda because of the clothes 😭

past copper
#

I’m sure there’s media reference we’re not seeing here

worn latch
past copper
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If we saw his Nemesis form with it, we may get it

worn latch
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He should have a jekyl and hyde skin

past copper
#

I assumed that is what it was, but the man was a doctor. Not what looks like an officer of sorts

peak escarp
#

it's called Diesel Baron

past copper
#

I was just thinking something. He could be in a Steampunk theme skin

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Although, might be a reference to the Chem Barons of LoL

peak escarp
#

or the concept of Oil Barons

zenith mango
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It’s Reggie Buckworth or whatever his name is

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Truly a nightmare

golden oak
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Blizzard sees capitalism as horror while being big corpo?

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That’s hilarious

empty crescent
peak escarp
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the "big corpo" Blizzard aren't the ones making the skins

golden oak
#

They allowed it as a Halloween skin ZaryaLUL

fresh rock
#

These Halloween skins are fun

analog phoenix
wise olive
#

Why did hanzo f Genji up I'm kinda new to lore

distant sparrow
rare trail
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The clan’s elders pushed him to bring his carefree brother, Genji, into line—leading to a confrontation where Hanzo struck Genji down.

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Upon the death of his father, the clan elders instructed Hanzo to straighten out his wayward younger brother, Genji, so that he, too, might help rule the Shimada empire. When Genji refused, Hanzo was forced to kill him.

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Following the clan leader's untimely death, Genji's older brother, Hanzo, demanded that Genji take a more active role in their late father's empire. Genji refused, enraging Hanzo. The tension between the brothers built to a violent confrontation that left Genji on the verge of death.

zenith mango
wise olive
rare plume
steel cosmos
peak escarp
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Reggie is the lawyer from Invasion

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Halfred Glitchbot is the one on Hollywood

steel cosmos
#

oh

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oh yeah that guy

past copper
#

F it. I don’t know anything bout Diablo, but the coming event looks đŸ”„

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And that Moira skin looks awesome as Hell fr

fresh rock
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I feel like..

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That would've made more sense

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Instead of giving another skin to Pharah

peak escarp
#

Pharah makes sense with the silhouette

past copper
#

Pharah is just fortunate to get skins often

fresh rock
#

Tis a shame.

past copper
#

It can’t always be helped

peak escarp
#

she's easy to design for

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some heroes are difficult to design for, like Sigma and Orisa

past copper
#

Heck. Ana for example still has more Halloween skins then most I think

fresh rock
#

Also, Orisa skin, quack

past copper
#

Funny Zen and Orisa aren’t getting Halloween skins this year

fresh rock
#

Bathtime Zenyatta.

past copper
#

Honestly, I almost feel those skins would have fit better with Summer, but it is what it is

vapid tusk
worthy rose
#

I also love the new event skin for hamston

vapid tusk
#

Is Hanzo's new mythic based on/ inspired by anything?

small bison
#

hello all, i have a question. I was looking for Overwatch interations audio for a potential animation and found this interaction of Lucio and Torbjörn on overwatch fandom site but can't seem to find the audio anywhere online. Does anyone know if this is a real interaction?

LĂșcio: Brigitte tells me you can dance, but I won't believe it until I see it!
Torbjörn: (Chuckle) Are you sure you'll be able to handle it?
LĂșcio: (Laugh) Try me!
lavish vessel
lavish vessel
analog phoenix
rain shoal
#

i hope its not in the BP again

lavish vessel
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It’s not, it’s in the ultimate bundle

fresh rock
worn latch
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Very excited for the lw skin

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Looks like a drow to me

frosty citrus
#

What if

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Orisa was a monkey

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😳

rare trail
#

?

frosty citrus
#

Parle tu français ou ta utilisé Google traduction?

wise olive
# frosty citrus Orisa was a monkey

What if junk was a monkey he shoots coconuts out of a banana themed launcher and is a monkey for his body (kinda obvious) and his mines were grass covered dirt piles his detonator was a banana and his trap was a grassy outside with some coconuts in the middle

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Legit just thought of that in like 5 min so idk

frosty citrus
#

Would be a very nice skin

wise olive
#

Yea I would use it

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I mean king Jamison is the only one I use cuz it looks the best and I've never switched but if I got a skin that I designed then I would switch between the 2

golden oak
#

Illari has pve voice lines

rain shoal
#

OMG I WANNA USE HER ULT IN A PVE MODE

golden oak
#

Was she available in any mission?

rare trail
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i dont think so

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maybe she'll be in junkenstein this year

golden oak
#

No she has voice lines from invasion

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One of them is Toronto mission

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Maybe they’ll add mode with all heroes and that’s why those lines are there

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Like with ow1 story missions

limpid agate
#

Sombra, Zarya, Illari, Lifeweaver, Reinhardt, Pharah

spare fox
#

where are you getting these pve lines info from?

limpid agate
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And given how they force 1/2/1... You're gonna be forced to have Sombra and Pharah every game. Rein/Zarya and Illari/Lifeweaver are the flexible ones.

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But I expect Rein/Lifeweaver to be the goto pick.

golden oak
golden oak
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And kings row mission possibly cuz she has repair station voice lines as well

spare fox
golden oak
# spare fox link pls?

đŸȘ You are passing through a galaxy with countless planets, floating involuntarily in orbit. You pass meteorites and asteroids that, with their speed and size, make life in space not as it might seem. After light years in space, you end up on a planet where you hear all the issues of your favorite game characters in all available languages. Do yo...

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spare fox
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it's awesome to speculate on

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however there are still voicelines that were datamined years ago that aren't used still... could go either way I guess

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but maybe for future seasons they'll have some kind of washed-down all-heroes version of the Invasion missions without cinematics and all that?

golden oak
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Or maybe main missions were supposed to have modifiers like the kings row mission

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Maybe will be added in next pve campaign

spare fox
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Yeah like the OW1 all heroes mode for story missions

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Basically just plunking in 4 different heroes and stripping the lore voicelines from it

fresh rock
spare fox
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in the past they've expanded Junkenstein's Revenge to include a couple new heroes each year, definitely something they'll keep doing for the Bride version

vapid tusk
#

out of the playable roster, which characters apart from Mercy are pacifists?

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also would Lucio have a grudge against Symmetra and Lifeweaver?

worn latch
#

Lifeweaver and Lucio seem to actually get along decently well

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But Symettra and Lucio do not like each other

peak escarp
#

Mercy isn't a pacifist

slate fulcrum
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And I don't think anyone in this game is a pacifist really

empty crescent
#

Closest would be zen

peak escarp
#

there's a line where Soldier accuses Zen of being a pacifist

empty crescent
#

But

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In his lore it says he will still fight

slate fulcrum
#

I reckon closest would be lifeweaver

peak escarp
#
    Zenyatta: What makes you think I am a pacifist?
    Soldier: 76: You sure talk like one.
    Zenyatta: Perhaps it is assumptions that are foolish.```
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Mercy wants peace, but will fight when necessary

stiff wadi
#

do the anniversary achievements not give you the credits they said they will?

peak escarp
#

they screwed up the challenges, so they're doing that instead

stiff wadi
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so like automatically 3000? or do i need to do all the challenges

peak escarp
#

automatically

stiff wadi
#

oh damn

worn latch
#

His main goal isn't fighting at all

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It's healing

vapid tusk
peak escarp
#

disliking violence doesn't make you a pacifist

vapid tusk
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"a person who believes that war and violence are unjustifiable"

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sounds pretty much like mercy to me

peak escarp
#

and yet she still goes into combat

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a pacifist wouldn't

vapid tusk
#

is it really going into combat if all she does is heal?
I don't think i've ever seen or read about her inflicting any type of harm to anyone
unless i'm missing info

peak escarp
#

she carries a pistol

vapid tusk
#

isn't the point of self-defense to protect against violence

peak escarp
#

I assume she would use it when needed

spare fox
#

Pretty sure she never said she was a pacifist, just totally against her tech being weaponized

vapid tusk
#

well i'm still only half-convinced but i guess i'll go with your opinion(s) for now

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lol

topaz spindle
#

What is bobs lore? What is he supposed to do that he isnt? (Im serious. Once I heard a character interaction where bob is insinuated to be like a servant of some kind that needs to be freed???)

light socket
merry token
light socket
#

Oh well

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I guess ill wait

woven jewel
#

He was a butler out of code at first but then became a butler to Ashe out of his own will post-Omnic Crisis

drowsy juniper
#

Stockholm syndrome 😭

peak escarp
#

no

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Bob actually cares about her

woven jewel
#

Parents when they develop stockholm syndrome to their children

peak escarp
#

stockholm syndrome isn't a real thing anyway

patent rivet
#

I think rammatra and zenyatta both got ptsd when talking about their “inspirational” animals or insects to Lucio

hushed jetty
#

what makes you say that?

patent rivet
#

So there is 1 voice line of Lucio saying “what is your favorite animal” zen and rammatra both tell him they find ants “inspirational” both knowing of their master and brotherhood and the situation that they will always be in like conflict and more.

keen summit
#

Idk what ur trying to say tho

patent rivet
fiery echo
#

Hello! I have heard before (a lot) about a new tank? Called Maugal, or something like that. Is this character mentioned before in any lore?

lavish vessel
#

Mauga, he’s a talon heavy brute and an old friend of baptiste’s. If u wanna know more about him u can read bap’s short story somewhere in the pins

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His room was also seen in the new Samoa map so he’s more than likely the next tank in s8

spare fox
#

probably not relevant but Sigma also has a voiceline interaction with S76 where he remarks how remarkable ants are (Sigma is ignoring that S76 told him to snap out of it and instead is focused on an ant on the ceiling)

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there are so many "hivemind" motifs in the game especially with omnics, pre- AND post-Awakening

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so many hexagons and things clustered in sets of 6
basically Aurora's awakening "broke" the hivemind code of the omnics somehow so now they have free will

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Ramattra wants omnics to work together again, or wants them to want to work together again or whatever, to ensure their future as a race

keen summit
lavish vessel
lavish vessel
wise olive
#

How did lifeweaver come into the lore

peak escarp
#

what do you mean

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he was Symmetra's roomate at Vishkar Academy

peak escarp
#

never

drifting minnow
#

Ill make one

peak escarp
#

!!shitposting

twilit nacelleBOT
#

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

drifting minnow
#

đŸ€š

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Hanzo players are great 💯 (unless you’re on the enemy team.)

woven grove
#

does doomfist know kiriko's mom? in an interaction between genji and doomfist doom asks genji who taught him how to use a sword, genji says "the best swords master in the world". doom kisses his teeth and says " her..". in another interaction where kiriko kills doom and he respawns, he says "certainly her mothers daughter". i'm too curious not to ask 😭😭

rare trail
#

in lore we've never seen them meet

zenith mango
#

He knows of her

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She’s the best swordmaster in the world

peak escarp
#

Asa has a reputation

echo monolith
#

I saw an idea of ow2 being a separate timeline from ow1 and the tracers from each game arnt the same character

#

Idk i just thought it was a cool idea

rare trail
#

there isnt really a reason to think that

echo monolith
rare trail
#

so then the tracer from ow1 and ow2 would be the same?

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everyone else would be different

echo monolith
#

Well yea swag

#

Mb lol

golden oak
#

Just not as playable heroes

echo monolith
#

Wait really?

lavish vessel
#

Sojourn was the one who commanded storm rising, the third archive mission

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And I think junker queen always spoke on the loudspeakers in junkertown

golden oak
#

Junkrat and Roadhog cinematic revolves around them trying to trick the queen into letting them in

lavish vessel
golden oak
lavish vessel
peak escarp
#

yeah, Sojourn and JQ and Ramattra were in OW1

glossy abyss
#

Pea đŸ«›đŸ‘

peak escarp
#

Asa is probably the person who told Sojiro not to trust Talon

robust gate
past copper
#

I never would’ve thought of that for these skins

#

Kinda reminds me of the Jokerz from Batman Beyond

rain shoal
#

wasnt the Roadhog one in OW1 though? why does it only cost coins??

peak escarp
#

Roadhog, Junkrat and Sombra are all skins from OW1

rain shoal
#

i dont remember seeing the roadhog one though

rare trail
#

they should all be buyable with creds if you go through heroes instead right?

rain shoal
#

nope its not in the gallery

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same with sombra but it was only available to those who bought the game before a certain date around the time the OW2 betas were held iirc

fluid tulip
#

i got mime cuz moira looks so stupid

worn latch
#

Moira skins r so goofy lookin

peak escarp
rain shoal
#

i dont get why those just vanish from the gallery if you didnt obtain them

peak escarp
#

so your gallery doesn't get cluttered with unobtainable skins?

woven yew
#

soldier and reaper?

peak escarp
#

what about them

merry token
#

Cause they were coworkers and friends but became enemies

worn latch
peak escarp
worn latch
#

Nuh uh

woven jewel
#

That would be Vincent

merry token
#

The lack of Vincent in fanart is 😔

woven jewel
#

I'mm ask rn

#

Wait is this the only picture we have of him 💀

woven yew
peak escarp
#

yes

rose jackal
#

whos vincent?

#

i think i missed
.a lot

#

🙏

woven jewel
#

76/Jack Morrison's ex-boyfriend

rose jackal
#

oh

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ok

#

thanks

woven jewel
#

Not much about him

worn latch
worn latch
woven yew
worn latch
#

I was very obviously joking

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😭

woven jewel
#

!!sp

peak escarp
#

this isn't the place for joking

woven yew
#

is there a connection between Dva And Lucio?

peak escarp
#

D.Va is a fan of Lucio's music

woven yew
#

because I saw an offical video of Dva and Lucio toghther

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there was a frame

peak escarp
#

and they're both in Overwatch now

woven yew
#

how old is kiriko

peak escarp
#

21

woven yew
peak escarp
#

?

past copper
#

Something small to look forward to

#

This will be the first time Mercy finally gets a new Halloween skin since the first Junkenstein’s Revenge from OW1

merry token
sleek kraken
#

Aren’t solider and Lucio brothers?

peak escarp
#

no

hushed jetty
surreal holly
peak escarp
#

Soldier is also an old white man

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Lucio is Afro-Brazilian

hushed jetty
#

i believe soldier is old enough to be lucio's dad

surreal holly
#

Fr lol

golden oak
#

Unless it’s in shop currently

median parcel
#

Yo i have question why is lucio banned from Brazil

median parcel
#

Im i tripping I swear I heard somewhere hes like banned from Brazil and it confused me

golden oak
#

I think they meant wanted

median parcel
#

Isnt it because he stole the things for his equipment

peak escarp
#

he's wanted by Vishkar for stealing tech from them

#

but he's not banned from anywhere

median parcel
#

Yea I think the person that said it must of misworded it or something

keen summit
woven yew
#

whose vishkar? cbf about lifeweavers lore so..

rugged rose
rugged rose
#

Idk

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Not much else

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They are destroying the world and Lucio hates them

woven yew
#

ok

unkempt abyss
#

zen according to in game lines

rare trail
#

i wonder if zen has killed anyone

#

he wouldve been active during the crisis

unkempt abyss
rare trail
#

probably not

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like hes said hes not a pacisfist but i dont think he'd kill anyone

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he kinda let himself get kidnapped in pve without trying to fight or kill sombra and widow

unkempt abyss
#

he can kick ass for sure though

spare fox
#

they just found him

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or "found him" was said, to whom there is question on that lol

obsidian bridge
# woven yew whose vishkar? cbf about lifeweavers lore so..

vishkar is a company consisting of architects and scientists whose obj is to improve the world, but bc one of the higher ups is secretly a member of talon (I forgot his name) he uses his influence to harm the world. He did so in rio thus lucio hates vishkar. Also bc of his actions sym wonders if vishkar really is good. (fact check me on all of this pls cuz this is all from my garbage memory)

spare fox
#

Under the guise of "helping rebuild," Vishkar wants to rebuild destroyed and impoverished cities and neighborhoods - but to their own standards, which are "perfect," but also assumedly easily-governable etc etc. They're essentially getting rid of all the culture and anything that gives the place personality, warts and all, for a dystopian sameness. That's why many places don't like Vishkar
Sanjay has also used illegal and violent methods to get contracts to build/rebuild in these areas as well (see "A Better World" comic)

obsidian bridge
#

thanks i will

spare fox
#

oh and Vishkar also takes in promising highly intelligent children as their students who become their employees, and Vishkar claims ownership of their ideas. This happened to Lucio's father and Lifeweaver is currently wanted by Vishkar for absconding with "their" tech that he developed (biolight)

#

Vishkar are basically the Lord Farquaad of the OW universe

potent briar
rare trail
#

Can Sanjay use hardlight?

#

isn’t it like rare to be able to

worn latch
#

No it's not rare you just have to learn how to harness iy

#

That's what the academy is for

rugged rose
spare fox
#

I just wonder if it's a genetically predispositioned ability or an ability that can only be done by those intelligent to do it

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i.e. can any genius learn it or is there more to it than that?

#

I know we haven't seen omnics as hard light architects (as far as I know?) but can they manipulate it?

worn latch
#

Hmm

#

I thought everyone at the academy could lightbend?

#

And there's not enough information on how you get into the academy anywaus

#

Maybe you just have to be smart enough

spare fox
worn latch
#

How do they figure that out?

spare fox
#

dunno yet

worn latch
#

It's kinda confusing imo

#

Since hardlight is completely scientific how can only certain people use it

spare fox
#

idk, maybe the same way only certain people have photographic memories? something like that?

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I'm reminded of the guy that was taken on a helicopter ride over a city, not for very long, and later on was able to draw the entire city in a crazy amount of photo-precise detail from just his memory alone - maybe it's an ability like that?

worn latch
#

That's actually a good theory

#

I like that a lot

ruby ridge
ruby ridge
merry token
#

Id assume it’s just physically difficult to manipulate

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And Symmetra is just better with the “flow” of it cause of her dance incorporations or smth

worn latch
#

I'm wondering why only some people can use it

rare trail
#

its possible it was supposed to be like shimada dragons where like its genetic or smth

#

shimada dragons arent hardlight rn but i think its possible they were supposed to be hardlight at some point

peak escarp
#

if hardlight was genetic it would be a lot easier to find people who can manipulate it

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hardlight is useable by a select few because of the skill needed to manipulate it - some people just have a knack for it

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like Symmetra

rare trail
#

spirits

distant sparrow
#

also, shimada dragons? thought only hanzo had 1

rare trail
#

genji also has one

distant sparrow
distant sparrow
rare trail
#

and in dragons hanzos is depicted as two right?

#

probably just because thats how it is in game though it probably doesnt mean anything

distant sparrow
#

mk ty

merry token
peak escarp
#

the Kiriko spray depicts only one dragon for Hanzo

#

so two appearing for the attack is probably just a cosmetic thing

golden oak
#

I thought hanzo’s two dragons was supposed to represent his inner conflict

woven jewel
#

Nah I always know it was supposed to be one cuz the story

#

But if I were to give an unbased theory based on what I read here, it could be Hanzo's turmoil splitting his own dragon in two

fresh rock
woven jewel
#

But it's like two halves dragon

rare trail
ruby ridge
#

Hanzos two dragons are jjsg for the hitbox

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And gameplay

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One dragon would look weird

zenith mango
#

I thought the dragons represented soul and body

#

Since genjis body was destroyed, he only had one

vapid tusk
peak escarp
#

I meant in-universe

#

I know the gameplay explanation

vapid tusk
#

Was Hanzo released before the cinematic?

peak escarp
#

yes

limpid agate
#

Hanzo was one of the original 12

#

When the game was first announced

vapid tusk
#

Then they probably just changed the details of the animations a little before releasing

#

To match the in-game

limpid agate
#

They wouldn't have to

#

Dragons released nearly 2 years after

#

They wouldn't have started it yet

vapid tusk
#

Then idk

#

I’m just saying what makes sense to me

bronze blaze
peak escarp
#

Hanzo refers to the dragon as singular in all his voice lines

steel cosmos
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in dragons they also call it 1 dragon

zenith mango
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I like mine

modern hound
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ya des gens pour faire de la ra,ked libre ?

limpid agate
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Wrong channel, and that's not English.

twilit patrol
twilit patrol
grave finch
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!!shitposting

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soft light
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Do they explain in the lore why Cassidy's names changed??

twilit patrol
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It’s the same reason

hushed jetty
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its just a retcon i think

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pretending his name was always cassidy

modern hound
rare trail
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i thought the explanation was that cass was his real name and mcree was like a fake name he just used because he was like hanging out with criminals

twilit patrol
twilit patrol
modern hound
twilit patrol
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And this is a lore channel

grave finch
modern hound
twilit patrol
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Np

modern hound
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He never say anywhere i cant speak french if i would like hé gave no rules to say that

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I know my english is really bad

twilit patrol
modern hound
grave finch
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Yeah where? cringe

rare trail
twilit patrol
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!!loreonly

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