does this make his old ult canon?
#lore-discussion
rare trail
ruby ridge
Yes
rare trail
im just like confused about where it is
hes always depicted with the regular sentry gun
like where is the cannon stored
maybe he just means reconfigure itself?
yeah i dont think his old ult is cannon
i mean it is but like e54 our bastion wouldnt have had it
and the diagnostic screen doesnt show the tank gun from his old ult
past copper
Curious to see that. I do believe she will rejoin Overwatch, but only because they both need each other’s help
She’s alone in her fight against Null Sector and Overwatch can’t fight a global invasion on their own with such limited resources
peak escarp
she joins them in Invasion
past copper
Yes, but she more or less turned them down. At least for the time being
Her priorities are in her home right now, but once things get a handle, she’ll rejoin them
Which I think the short coming out for her will go into depth on
Also, this thought had occurred to me. We don’t know WHO the next tank is
People greatly assume it to be Mauga. But I don’t believe this to be the case
ruby ridge
This new torbjorn story is so funny
It’s literally just him contemplating rather or not he’s gonna kill bastion
peak escarp
she didn't turn them down
she said she'd help against Null Sector
and went with them to Gibraltar
peak escarp
This new torbjorn story is so funny
Torbjorn story?
past copper
Ok
past copper
Torbjorn story?
They mean the comic with Bastion
past copper
Anyway, about the next hero and future story missions
peak escarp
this is new
past copper
I believe Mauga isn’t the next hero
ruby ridge
Torbjorn story?
past copper
If the next missions involve Talon, it’s more than likely the season will be Talon themed
Which would be the best time to add Mauga given he’s apart of Talon
So I believe this rules him out as next tank since we won’t see story missions until next year
Then again, we have seen a hero added before a related theme event was added. Ramattra
But you never know. Next new hero and story missions are still a mystery at this time
ruby ridge
So I believe this rules him out as next tank since we won’t see story missions u...
We don’t know exactly how far the PVE missions are after the talon missions, we know season 8 + new hero is on January 10th~
Season 10 would be like may 10th~
Which could be the next batch of PVE after talon or the talon batch themselves
peak escarp
So I believe this rules him out as next tank since we won’t see story missions u...
what are you on about
they're not going to withhold a hero just because PvE missions aren't until next year
Sojourn was added almost a year before Invasion
rain shoal
nvm i cant read lol
lavish vessel
Sojourn was added almost a year before Invasion
Same with ramattra too, and the hero released during invasion isn’t really connected to the lore yet anyway
hushed jetty
https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/media/stories/torbjorn/
bruh i saw "2218" and thought that was the year i was like ?????
peak escarp
lol no
spare fox
oh I might be slow to bring this up, but I think the 4-digit code at the end is the time the journal entry was made
2218 = 10:18PM
2349 = 11:49PM
peak escarp
yeah that makes sense
they all fit the format
and the first pair of numbers are sequential... starting 9.30 (sept 30) and ending 10.06 (oct 6)
so Torbjorn spends a week trying to figure out Bastion
round hemlock
Bro. Y’all going way to deep into this lore for me to even understand 😂
golden oak
I don’t feel like reading that new story
Can someone tldr for me
rare trail
the bastion one or soj one?
bastion one is basically just like right after torb finds bastion and torb is kinda deciding whether to kill him or not
hes also trying to figure out why bastion isnt a mindless murder machine
golden oak
So that’s just kinda like that comic but as diary
That’s so lame
I want something interesting, or something new at least
golden oak
Eh not really
golden oak
What was so interesting in it
peak escarp
getting a story from Torbjorn's perspective, learning how the Bastion model works, getting more Bastion/Torb interaction
it was completely different from Binary
golden oak
I still think there’s more interesting topics
peak escarp
that doesn't make this not interesting
spare fox
I think it was a great story imo
peak escarp
and it gives us an approximate time of year for when Torbjorn found Bastion, given that the entries have dates/times on them
spare fox
Bastion looked up at me.
I could see his optic sensors searching me. Studying my face as I stood there,
dumbfounded. The rivet gun fell from my grasp. A feeling came over me. And for
the first time in a long while, I felt . . . ashamed.
I know now . . . Bastion is different. I’m the one who needs to change.
I started this journey with a question. And while I’m still no closer to solving
it, I have my answer. That, I think, is enough. This is not a failing of algebra,
but a matter of trust.
good stuff imo
spare fox
an engineer working with a machine-turned-person that is teaching him it's not all about mechanics and science, that some things can't just be built but need to be learned
peak escarp
also if I had to guess I'd say either Ingrid or Brigitte named Ganymede
but we may never know
spare fox
you're not going to read it?
golden oak
Definitely not now
peak escarp
wow
golden oak
I mean later maybe
Was he deployed to fight with omnics or to fight with humans
Cuz frankly I don’t think humans would’ve used the bastions in the war because of the fear they might be hacked by the enemy any time and turn against them
vocal marsh
His model was used in the omnic war
They’re all over Eichenwalde
And you see them in Honor and Glory
golden oak
So I’m assuming bastion was supposed to fight humans
But when he wakes up, he’s not a killer robot
So what, was he not hacked by Anubis? Or did he get Aurora’s message and became sentient
golden oak
His model was used in the omnic war
Yeah on omnics side
peak escarp
So I’m assuming bastion was supposed to fight humans
But when he wakes up, he’...
thousand--one order issued over and over by the Bastion unit’s programming to its
weapons systems . . . A COMMAND TO FIRE!
True to Anubis and its prime directive to destroy humanity, this Bastion
unit’s programming was continuously issuing commands to engage and kill anyone
and anything it read as a viable target.```Bastion has the "kill all humans" command still running (or does until Torbjorn shuts it off), he just chooses to ignore it
golden oak
So is he sentient because of Aurora too?
peak escarp
yes
golden oak
So there’s pretty much everything we know about him
zenith mango
Old comic or the one we just got
What did we just get
zenith mango
When did this come out
peak escarp
earlier today
zenith mango
And when did shockwaves come out
peak escarp
also earlier today
peak escarp
Anniversary started today, and the Winston hero mastery
zenith mango
I haven’t been in today damn
zenith mango
Bastion has the "kill all humans" command still running (or does until Torbjorn ...
“I was finally able to flush the legacy Anubis form his system.”
Did torb get rid of it
vapid tusk
Bastion cinematic is top tier
you can’t change my mind
peak escarp
I don't need to change your mind, you're absolutely correct
zenith mango
Are we ever going to get more hanzo and Genji
Also does shockwaves take place right before liberation
woven jewel
Are we ever going to get more hanzo and Genji
I expect in-game we'll get something eventually, especially with Zen being the focal point next I expect more Genji and hopefully a thread to Hanzo
merry token
Are we ever going to get more hanzo and Genji
We’re definitely getting more Hanzo next year in a comic
peak escarp
short story, not comic
obsidian pagoda
keen summit
What a Great read man
The fact that the program wasbt just done byt that he just combatted it was so good cuz it explains that it wasnt a robot ptsd thing, it was the program taking over
ruby ridge
I like the torbjorn story more then the sojourn one
keen summit
Wouldve bewn betrer to get before gothenburg ngl
ruby ridge
I like how the story is basically torbjorn debating on rather or not he’s gonna kill bastion
keen summit
Basically getting ober his hate for 9mnics
ruby ridge
It also makes me wonder if bastion thought/knew torbjorn was planning or wanted to kill him, so he wanted to wait to reunite with Ganymede to give him his mest
Best
Best
keen summit
You can see it as say you were at war with a country and thrn meet a good person of it afterwards
Roughly
keen summit
It also makes me wonder if bastion thought/knew torbjorn was planning or wanted ...
I doubt it, bastion os likely very young in his mind
Bastion was dropped and never got out amd seems well to have the mind of a young kid
ruby ridge
This story is the saddest I’ve been from all the short stories
Because of that point
Bastion being so young mentally
And it’s the closest a hero we know ever got to death, maybe not closest but it was boughr up so much time
keen summit
He only had"natural"reactoons
What torn was doing with the core was basically trying to grab its heart in an operation while he was awake
ruby ridge
I really like this story
keen summit
But just look at emotes and you see bastions mental maturity, cuz emotes do often fit them
ruby ridge
I hope lifeweaver gets a short story sometime
keen summit
I hope lifeweaver gets a short story sometime
Still weird kiriko did
ruby ridge
Still weird kiriko did<:DoomfistHuh:586426656218939392>
Tbf kirikunt was made to the mascot of ow2 basicallt
And I forgot kiriko autocreects into kirikunt
Sigh
Kiriko got a cinemayic with release, she had a map, short story, so much
Sojourn got the most but hers were deserved tbh
lavish vessel
Yeah Hanamura, I didn’t know that released in ow2 tho, I just assumed it was from ow1 lol
rare trail
it is
its not even in ow2 besides for like arcade and custom games because 2cp got removed
lavish vessel
Oh wait no not Hanamura, there’s the deathmatch map with a similar name
Kanezaka I think
rare trail
ohhh yeah i forgot about that
lavish vessel
My bad lol 
twilit patrol
But it came out in OW1
rare trail
thats in her like gameplay trailer right?
lavish vessel
But it came out in OW1
Oh I thought so
lavish vessel
thats in her like gameplay trailer right?
I think so
twilit patrol
2020 or 2021 I don't know
rare trail
round hemlock
Can someone explain to me what talon even is and who has joined it and why
rare trail
talon are the bad guys
they want to start a big war
they believe humanity can only progress through conflict
sombra widow reaper doom moira sigma are in it
also sanjay (is like a higher up at the company symmetra works for) is in talon
and null sector/ramattra is working with them
rare trail
and they'll be the focus of the next set of pve missions
and the upcoming tank might be from talon
distant sparrow
also sanjay (is like a higher up at the company symmetra works for) is in talon
isnt he the robot they try to stop in the ow1 missions?
where you're chasing the cars
rare trail
nah thats maximilean
distant sparrow
nah thats maximilean
wait the same guy from hollywood?
rare trail
no thats a diff omnic
distant sparrow
oh ok
distant sparrow
ah ok
rare trail
he was being targeted by anti omnic groups so he hired guards
distant sparrow
alr
spare fox
It was a textbook presentation of why warfare was truly awful. There was no
glory to be found here, only innocent lives snuffed out by a conflict they couldn’t
yet fathom. Sojourn thought of her own dog, Murphy, left behind in the safety of
her fortified apartment. Just yesterday she was frustrated by late-night walks,
but now she would give anything to hear her pitiful whine at the door.
Me reading about the death, destruction, warzone, civillians dying and their impending doom left and right: "oh thank god Murphy is safe!"
I did worry about her after the invasion started
peak escarp
any pet owner would think of their pet's safety during a crisis
I worry about my cats even when nothing is wrong
fresh rock
Me too. Just yesterday there was a fire in the oven which caused smoke to flood the house. I grabbed the cats and ran out. I had to calm down both of them.
Thank goodness nothing bad happened to them.
peak escarp
honestly that bit was the most realistic part of the story
lavish vessel
Just adds an extra layer of humanity to her which I really like 
spare fox
no no no, I wasn't remarking on how Sojourn thought of Murphy
I was saying I was reading about all the death and destruction, then saw that Murphy was safe and was like "oh thank god!"
because tbh since the end of the Calling cinematic, it was always in the back of my head "what about Murphy??"
tbh, other than finding out Murphy was ok, I thought the Sojourn lorebite was kind of unnecessary
we knew what it was like during the Crisis from her novel and everything else was rightfully assumed from the Liberation mission
peak escarp
yeah it was, but I won't say no to more lore
ruby ridge
Mmmm, I wish ever hero released with a short story
peak escarp
it would have been better to get these two stories the week before Invasion launched
ruby ridge
we knew what it was like during the Crisis from her novel and everything else wa...
I don’t think sojourn needed a short story, maybe illari
spare fox
she will, but it might take years like it did for Dva and Lucio
those two didn't even get an origin video, so Illari upon release has that much more than them at least
rare trail
origin videos only came for heroes who got added in and werent base game right?
spare fox
umm there are a couple
S76 and Tracer got origin vids
and Junkrat and Roadhog combined got a kind of "Most Wanted" style news clip in the style of an origin video
iirc those were the only release heroes that had them
rare trail
some that didnt got cinematics as well like bastion hanzo and genji
spare fox
right, there was the cinematic trailer which I'm pretty sure isn't fully canon
rare trail
the museum?
worn latch
We need a lifeweaver cinematic (I'm begging for more lw lore on my hands and knees)
worn latch
So true
spare salmon
lifeweaver deserves lore that isnt trauma he's too silly.
ruby ridge
He should open up a bakery or something
Like I’d buy cupcakes baked on his Tiana
Trauma
Like “cupcake a la family abandonment issues” 🤩 im hooked 🪝 ‼️ 😍
hoary pagoda
How clean are sigmas feet.
This is a important lore question
(like at this point I wanna figure it out, I will genuinely go through all his lore to find this out)
peak escarp
they're never mentioned
hushed jetty
well they dont toucb the ground sp at least somewhat clean
peak escarp
they'd be as clean as anyone else's feet
hushed jetty
the only thing we hear about sigma's feet ever is that he specifically "refuses footwear"
lavish vessel
they'd be as clean as anyone else's feet
Even cleaner than Winstons???
hoary pagoda
I mean ive never seen his feet touch the ground.
Wait damn
Does zen have cleaner feet or sigma.
peak escarp
Zen walks
golden oak
Zen only floats during meditation
viscid sparrow
How clean are sigmas feet.
i mean hes literally floating 24/7 so i would assume somewhat clean
worn latch
How clean are sigmas feet.
He floats so I bet they're not that gross
zenith mango
Does shockwave come right before liberation
lavish vessel
I think it’s before
zenith mango
Also was the Anubis program thing that gave bastion the order to kill stuff the reason he had ptsd
lavish vessel
Also was the Anubis program thing that gave bastion the order to kill stuff the ...
Yeah Anubis is the god program that started the omnic crisis
lavish vessel
Also was the Anubis program thing that gave bastion the order to kill stuff the ...
Bastion doesn’t exactly have ptsd, I assume ur talking about the part in his short, I think he’s looking at the other bastion unit’s memories cos he never actually fought
zenith mango
He had the ptsd moment before he found other bastion units
We know he has ptsd and the “order to kill” shows why
indigo lake
bastion 🤤
limpid echo
spare fox
So I saw this graffiti/art on the Liberation map
I guess that's Mondatta?
But the forehead dots are different - like Zenyatta's
Why would be be on a wall in Toronto?
golden oak
Zen became tekharta after mondatta’s death
spare fox
Iirc it's a title like "brother"
peak escarp
it's a high ranking title among the Shambali
spare fox
It def looks like a reference to Zenyatta, but why would he be in art in Toronto?
It's kind of in a spot you wouldn't look at right away, when you're in that hall with a wall of windows looking out at the street in front of the station
When you leave that building it's immediately to the left
It's not immediately obvious
keen summit
We know he has ptsd and the “order to kill” shows why
Its nlt really ptsd as he never has been in anything himself. Its just the program
rare trail
didnt zen leave the order?
also in his bio it mentions him mourning mondottas death only after he left
rain shoal
Symmetra I think
i could've sworn Tracer also called him that in on interaction when she asked him what did he do before the crisis
golden oak
i could've sworn Tracer also called him that in on interaction when she asked hi...
Probable but I haven’t heard that quote in a while
unkempt abyss
I mean ive never seen his feet touch the ground.
he has an emote where he stands
stretch
peak escarp
Literally someone in game calls him that
he is called Tekhartha Zenyatta, but he didn't inherit the title after Mondatta's death
lunar trail
wait overwatch has lore?? 😳
worn latch
No
worn latch
I lied
unkempt abyss
but this can't be real man
its all made up
lunar trail
:/
lunar trail
its all made up
fax
big fax my guy
oh
you'r the BOB
like Bob, do something!
and you did
you did straight fax
like fax machine
twilit patrol
wait overwatch has lore?? 😳
What do you think
peak escarp
!!shitposting
twilit nacelleBOT
Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
lunar trail
!!shitposting
Oh, didn’t know that, my bad
Sorry guys D:
OW lore is pretty cool though ngl :D
twilit patrol
OW lore is pretty cool though ngl :D
Without any doubt
golden oak
Was storm rising before or after ow2 was announced
twilit patrol
Before
spare fox
during a streamer interview with Jeff Kaplan while they played Storm Rising, Jeff was describing something about the game and referred to it as "Overwatch 1" and the streamer and everyone were like 👀 !!!
golden oak
Yeah cuz storm rising features two ow2 characters
spare fox
nah it's cuz this was before OW2 was announced or even leaked, and saying "OW1" was implying that there'd be a 2 and it was in the works
golden oak
That was before or after echo
spare fox
after Echo was shown in the Reunion cinematic
and we knew she was going to be a future hero already, but she wasn't released as a hero for another year
golden oak
They said echo is gonna be the last ow1 hero
spare fox
Nov '18 - Reunion cinematic
Spring '19 - Storm Rising, Baptiste, Mauga shown in short story
Summer '19 - Sigma
Nov '19 - OW2 announced, Zero Hour cinematic
Spring 2020 - Echo as a hero
golden oak
Oh
spare fox
obv that isn't comprehensive, just the points we were talking about
golden oak
Sigma is not that old character but he feels old for some reason
golden oak
Nov '18 - Reunion cinematic
Spring '19 - Storm Rising, Baptiste, Mauga shown in ...
So they planned to release Baptiste and Mauga next
But they scrapped Mauga and decide to use his kit for sigma
spare fox
they wanted to have Mauga as a hero but they also wanted a shield tank but it didn't really feel right with the character of Mauga, so they pushed out Sigma instead
even though Mauga is mentioned to have a shield in the Bap short story
they might scrap that whole bit because he got blown up
as kind of an out to totally redo him as a different type of tank if they want
golden oak
If they released mauga but with different kit there would be no double shield 😮
spare fox
yeah, but they hadn't decided officially on 5v5 yet I guess - we'll just have to see what they have in store for Mauga
I wonder if Moira had a hand in his "healing"
that could be interesting, a tank "designed" by Moira
fresh rock
Getting Sigma instead of Mauga.. I actually think thay was the right move.
Besides, if they're playing their cards right, Mauga should be next.
worn latch
Fandoms gonna get soo mad about another gay character
Where can I find info on mauga tho
golden oak
Fandoms gonna get soo mad about another gay character
Wdym
golden oak
He is?
worn latch
I thought him and bap were fruitcakes
golden oak
Fandoms gonna get soo mad about another gay character
Honestly, W
That means less bigots will play this game
golden oak
I thought him and bap were fruitcakes
Bap is bi
worn latch
I know
worn latch
Gay people 😡😡
golden oak
Bap has a canon crush on Cassidy tho
spare fox
and would go on a date with Lifeweaver
worn latch
I don't think Cassidy will ever get a confirmed sexuality tbh
So I don't think they'll end up together
spare fox
it will make so many people mad either way lol
worn latch
Idk tho Cass and bap is cute
worthy rose
Lucio could solo the ow verse if he listened to phonk ngl
stuck stump
Will they add a trans character at some point?
peak escarp
possibly
fresh rock
Will they add a trans character at some point?
There is no way to confirm if we will. It is a possibility though.
worn latch
Will they add a trans character at some point?
I hope so
I want a nonbinary hero so bad
vapid tusk
i want a another hero with a tragic backstory so bad
keen summit
He liked bap tho
Well liked can either be friendly or love ofcourse. I hope hes jist a psycho and who knows aroace
keen summit
i want a another hero with a tragic backstory so bad
Illari legit just dropped
keen summit
how about a hero with no tragic backstory
As long as they dont do a sens from r6
peak escarp
the last/only hero without a tragic backstory is Brigitte
keen summit
the last/only hero without a tragic backstory is Brigitte
Fuck ur roght i kept thinking, maybe ball tho?
Like he didnt seem bithered by what happened
peak escarp
Ball was a survivor of the ape uprising on the moon
just because he wasn't bothered doesn't mean the events weren't tragic
peak escarp
by that definition, Moira wouldn't have a tragic backstory either
keen summit
But its kinda hard cuz lots of people will think its bad writing if its not tragic
keen summit
by that definition, Moira wouldn't have a tragic backstory either
I honestly dont see hers as tragic ngl
peak escarp
they don't have to have a tragic origin, they just have to have a reason to fight
Illari's origin is pretty weak in that regard
keen summit
they don't have to have a tragic origin, they just have to have a reason to figh...
I agree, however most people want their characters to be tragic etc
keen summit
Illari's origin is pretty weak in that regard
Yeah, i see some critisizing it for alot of stuff but it never really explains what they fought for and why she now fights
peak escarp
you don't need to reply to every message
keen summit
I want a nonbinary hero so bad
Anyways sadly last non binary char i saw drop was the worst written operator in that game. So i hope if blizz makes one its dobe well
Aka sens from r6
golden oak
i want a another hero with a tragic backstory so bad
Illari
peak escarp
Technically omnics are
all the omnics we have have chosen a gender (or been assigned one by their creator)
the only omnic characters who are nonbinary are Lynx Seventeen and Nameless
golden oak
Oh
hushed jetty
Well liked can either be friendly or love ofcourse. I hope hes jist a psycho and...
if they confirm a hero as aro, ace, or both Ever in the game i will explode /pos
vapid tusk
Would it be valid for me to describe Bastion as childlike?
golden oak
Why
lavish vessel
Would it be valid for me to describe Bastion as childlike?
He does sorta give off the ‘curious kid in nature vibe’ in torbjorns comic lol
keen summit
if they confirm a hero as aro, ace, or both Ever in the game i will explode /pos
well wouldnt surprise me if mauga is that, but well i doubt blizz will make a sociopath/psychopath lgbtq cuz yknowww
hushed jetty
it would indeed be a pretty iffy stereotype
i do however love mauga and want ace rep so i'd take it
golden oak
He does sorta give off the ‘curious kid in nature vibe’ in torbjorns comic lol
I think that’s because he was literally just activated and didn’t know anything about the world
lavish vessel
I think that’s because he was literally just activated and didn’t know anything ...
Yeah ik, he doesn’t really have a childish vibe anymore tho
keen summit
Yeah ik, he doesn’t really have a childish vibe anymore tho
look at his emotes
lavish vessel
look at his emotes
Good point, I was more so just thinking of his cinematic and stuff we’ve seen in pve
keen summit
Good point, I was more so just thinking of his cinematic and stuff we’ve seen in...
in cinematic he seems jsut curious about where he ended up in.
he seems like a kid maybe. kids can realise threats and he first jsut got scared before trying to basically say backoff
worn latch
the only omnic characters who are nonbinary are Lynx Seventeen and Nameless
Nameless my beloved
worn latch
Anyways sadly last non binary char i saw drop was the worst written operator in ...
Nah ur right
I think the best non binary character I've personally seen is bloodhound
Because they're just non binary and they don't make a huge deal about it
golden oak
the only omnic characters who are nonbinary are Lynx Seventeen and Nameless
A nonbinary hacker, they couldn’t go for a bigger cliché 
rain shoal
since the underworld mission itself is canon but not the heroes in it then does that mean the OR unit and the A-7000 wargod are also canon?
and if so does that mean the other null sector skins are also gonna be canon null sector units?
the A-7000 wargod is just weird in general like did Ramattra try to make a robotic version of Ana?
peak escarp
unknown
hushed jetty
i believe null sector OR units are canon
i do not have a source on that,
anyway i hope they're canon
merry token
all the omnics we have have chosen a gender (or been assigned one by their creat...
Doesn’t bastion not have a gender either
peak escarp
Bastion's current bio uses he/him pronouns
merry token
Interesting
hushed jetty
bastion was previously it/its but in the current pve they're he/him-ing him
peak escarp
and Torbjorn used them for Bastion in the Invasion cutscenes too
hushed jetty
so i guess bro changed his mind
merry mason
I choose to believe they aren’t canon because being able uploading someone’s memories without their knowledge/consent would have too many implications for the lore
peak escarp
Bastion doesn't personally identify as any gender, but Torbjorn views him as male I guess
rare trail
i think its interesting how at the beginning of the torb bastion lorebite torb uses it/its but swaps to he/him later on when he like views bastion as not a mindless killing machine
twilit patrol
Bastion doesn't personally identify as any gender, but Torbjorn views him as mal...
Kinda
rare trail
I was finally able to flush the legacy Anubis programming from
his system.
and at first it was semi-unresponsive-
peak escarp
i think its interesting how at the beginning of the torb bastion lorebite torb u...
using "it" to refer to a sentient being does feel kinda rude
rare trail
he kinda flips a lot
like torb says "I then switched
to maintenance mode--which should have allowed me access to EVERY part of his
physical system."
then a few sentences later "How dare it! What is it hiding from me?"
peak escarp
it shows how hard it is to change how he thinks about Bastion
his true feelings show when he gets frustrated
rare trail
"I was transfixed as Bastion reached into the deepest, most protected part of
himself . . . and produced a delicate collection of twigs and leaves: the little
bird’s nest." yea i agree
torb uses he/him more when he views bastion as more like sentient
hushed jetty
using "it" to refer to a sentient being does feel kinda rude
some people use it/its deliberately but doing it when they dont ask for it is Bad ye
gritty wave
Bastion doesn't personally identify as any gender, but Torbjorn views him as mal...
Tbf it’s not like they could verbally tell us bc it’s Bastion
vapid tusk
Maybe he goes by beep/boop
flat yoke
🌯
teal jetty
I have found my people
hollow tinsel
Real
hollow tinsel
I have found my people
You new to the server?
teal jetty
You new to the server?
Yeah
twilit patrol
Welcome 🙂
teal jetty
Yep yep
fresh rock
Had.
worn latch
Yah what does that have to do with anything?
My og text said "WERE"
Not are
And my original point was that Mauga was most likely queer
fresh rock
Anything they had is most likely gone now.
worn latch
I feel like you are misunderstanding my point
peak escarp
"has a special kind of relationship" doesn't necessarily mean a romantic one
worn latch
There's a good chance it is tho
merry token
The writer themself certainly ships mauga and baptiste, as seen in some of their tweets if you search up either of their names
ruby ridge
I really wanna know Omnic anatomy
Like we know omnics like zen/Mondatta have brains in the head
But like do they have hearts?
Like if you shoot orisa in the head would she die?
spare fox
The new Torb Bastion lorebite has some insight into Omnic anatomy
rare trail
Orisa is probably too durable to die from being shot in the head
and bastion would probably only die from being shot in the chest area where his power thing is
opaque scroll
Orisa is probably too durable to die from being shot in the head
☝️
spare fox
Bastion also has a kill switch that would wipe him
not sure if that's something other omnics have
*other omnic models. I'm sure other bastion units have one. It makes sense that human-made omnics have them, but I can see omnic-made omnics not having one
rain shoal
i mean can you blame him? have you seen just how HUGE Mauga is?
golden oak
One cool thing about cass name change
They’re Ashe and Cole now (ash and coal)
worn latch
i mean can you blame him? have you seen just how HUGE Mauga is?
Nah mauga is so fine
golden oak
He’s just the talon rein ngl
vapid tusk
One cool thing about cass name change
They’re Ashe and Cole now (ash and coal)
Never noticed that
fresh rock
I'm just excited to see him :]
golden oak
See who
golden oak
Yeah, cant wait for his skins
They will be um nice 😳
drifting epoch
Our next hero is a tank.
Holy shit was it confirmed?!?!
peak escarp
yes
drifting epoch
Damn when was this
drifting epoch
New tank hero doesn't equal mauga
worn latch
If it's not Mauga I'm suing
peak escarp
Mauga is the most likely out of the known characters
ruby ridge
We’ve been baited 2 times already where ppl thought it was mauga
I don’t mind if it’s not mauga as long as it’s a good hero
And preferably connected to lore unlike the orphan rat
drifting epoch
So what exactly is mauga?
ruby ridge
Baptiste old friend
peak escarp
what do you mean?
ruby ridge
Maugas a heavy soldier in talon
drifting epoch
what do you mean?
Like is there anything special with him or is he just big dude
peak escarp
he's probably got some genetic enhancements
ruby ridge
He has a cool personality from what’ve we seen so far
peak escarp
also he has a rage problem
drifting epoch
Hulk X mauga Collab skin when?
fresh rock
If we ever do get a collab with Marvel, and we do get a hulk skin, I don't think they'd give it to Mauga.
twilit patrol
What does that mean ‘’Cinematic debuts’’ ?
fresh rock
They'd give it to Winston
fresh rock
What does that mean ‘’Cinematic debuts’’ ?
More cinematics.
rain shoal
wait i just noticed something, Hero mastery missions (multiplayer)??
drifting epoch
What does that mean ‘’Cinematic debuts’’ ?
Lifeweaver cinematic or maybe illari cinematic
fresh rock
We’ve been baited 2 times already where ppl thought it was mauga
The first time was fine. We got Sigma in his place and it was magnificent.
The second time hurt but we got Ramattra, who is also a great character but.. I feel like he should've been added in S6.
twilit patrol
Yes I think too
distant sparrow
And preferably connected to lore unlike the orphan rat
who?
ruby ridge
Illari
distant sparrow
Lifeweaver cinematic or maybe illari cinematic
lifeweaver cinematic? fucking disgusting dogshit character
ruby ridge
Rude:((
distant sparrow
i hate illari
ruby ridge
That’s why I call her orphan rat
fresh rock
Fellas..
distant sparrow
lifeweaver players trying to do anything other than healbot:
fresh rock
!!loreonly
twilit nacelleBOT
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ruby ridge
Idk what benefit illari was to the entire game, I think they just wanted to add another support so they came up with the kit first and made some quick backstory
That’s why she has so little lore
And isn’t connected to anhone
Anyone
Like she was made kit first and everything else was finished extremely fast
drifting epoch
lifeweaver cinematic? fucking disgusting dogshit character
Or it could be sigma or just anyone else who haven't gotten an cinematic
distant sparrow
a sigma cinematic? beautiful, truly out of this world
ruby ridge
I don’t think sigma would get a cinematic of his own, probably with a talon cinematic
distant sparrow
atleast its of a good character this time
twilit patrol
Lifeweaver lore is good
twilit patrol
You are just toxic
twilit patrol
You don’t know his lore
twilit patrol
He lives in the atakntic arcology
This
twilit patrol
Voice lines aren’t canon
twilit patrol
Stop talking about in game
peak escarp
gameplay isn't lore
distant sparrow
Others are better
peak escarp
others are worse
twilit patrol
Didn’t say LW was the best
ruby ridge
Of course other characters lores are good lifeweaver just released
But he still has good lore
Sigma has one of the more boring life’s to begin with
Lores
peak escarp
I think Sigma is overrated
ruby ridge
Every lore is good tho
ruby ridge
I think Sigma is overrated
Same
peak escarp
he's not nearly as interesting as everyone thinks
drifting epoch
I think Sigma is overrated
Gotta be honest real
peak escarp
his origin trailer was misleading
ruby ridge
People heard his voice actor say something in a cool voice once and he’s like “CHILLS!!! BEST ORIGIN STORY”
distant sparrow
i never said sigma's was the best
ruby ridge
Like sigmas just there, people think he’s so strong in lore when he can barely control his powers at all
fresh rock
I just like Sigma. I hope they do extend on his story though. He's just there.
ruby ridge
What do you guys rhink they’re gonna do with illari??
twilit patrol
Yeah and we don’t even know if his abilities are canon
peak escarp
they're not going to remove any heroes
distant sparrow
😭
twilit patrol
Removing hero would be a mess
ruby ridge
Yeah and we don’t even know if his abilities are canon
Ppl say he’s the strongest in lore but I’m pretty sure in lore he dosent even know how to control his stuff
And gravity in overwatxh lore isn’t hard to control
distant sparrow
it would make the game better if you remove the correct one though
drifting epoch
What do you guys rhink they’re gonna do with illari??
Idk probably have Cass recruit her to overwatch
fiery echo
Sigma isn’t so interesting
In my case I find him interesting because of his research, the scientist perfil, etc. I love those things, I even studying those thing hehe
peak escarp
And gravity in overwatxh lore isn’t hard to control
??
distant sparrow
<:MoiraFacepalm:600744820486701069>
orisa
just remove orisa and the game is 10x better
twilit patrol
!!loreonly @distant sparrow
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distant sparrow
oh wait this is the lore channel mb
ruby ridge
??
I mean like, it’s easily accessible, Zaryas gun and stalker can control gravity to extents and they can both be mass producible
twilit patrol
And gravity in overwatxh lore isn’t hard to control
How could you explain ?
peak escarp
I mean like, it’s easily accessible, Zaryas gun and stalker can control gravity ...
they don't control gravity
Zarya's gun shoots gravitons, and the Stalker has a tractor beam
that's not controlling gravity
twilit patrol
That’s not the same
peak escarp
actual manipulation of gravity is only done by Sigma
twilit patrol
In my case I find him interesting because of his research, the scientist perfil,...
You’re right, I love those things too.
ruby ridge
In code of violence was sigma actually playing with the rubix cube or just making it float between his hands
drifting epoch
I hope we get to see more ashe in the future I really love her lore
ruby ridge
I hope we get to see more ashe in the future I really love her lore
We’re getting a short story with her
peak escarp
In code of violence was sigma actually playing with the rubix cube or just makin...
slightly larger than standard-issue throwing grenades. His bald head accentuated
an angular face that converged in a sharp hooknose, like a hawk’s beak.```hyperpsheres
drifting epoch
We’re getting a short story with her
Yeah but I meant in the campaign/cinematic
twilit patrol
Yeah but I meant in the campaign/cinematic
It’s possible
fiery echo
You’re right, I love those things too.
Honestly Sigma motivated me to study more and more for my career. Right now I'm doing a mathematical model of type 2 diabetes.
And of course this character was an inspiration, even tho is fiction, I would like to have that level of knowledge
c:
ruby ridge
Yeah but I meant in the campaign/cinematic
I think ashe could show up with Cassidy or something
twilit patrol
Honestly Sigma motivated me to study more and more for my career. Right now I'm ...
Yes that’s cool. There are some characters who could motive us.
ruby ridge
Like Bob gets kidnapped by bull sector and Ashe goes to Cassidy and overwatch for help
Null
peak escarp
Honestly Sigma motivated me to study more and more for my career. Right now I'm ...
at least if your experiments go wrong and give you superpowers, the worst you'll get is the ability to control someone's bloodsugar 
twilit patrol
Like Bob gets kidnapped by bull sector and Ashe goes to Cassidy and overwatch fo...
It would be epic !
twilit patrol
at least if your experiments go wrong and give you superpowers, the worst you'll...
I need that Sombra emoji
fiery echo
at least if your experiments go wrong and give you superpowers, the worst you'll...
Yoooooooo! My ultimate will be overdose of sweetness! Lmao
peak escarp
just give everyone hyperglycemia
twilit patrol
Honestly Sigma motivated me to study more and more for my career. Right now I'm ...
Just study and you will
golden oak
What is lore codex
peak escarp
What is lore codex
it's the database that we got with the story missions, in Winston's computer
it was put in the "season 7 and beyond" section by mistake
twilit patrol
What
twilit patrol
OH
peak escarp
they updated Sojourn's age to a more reasonable 51
twilit patrol
That’s nice
peak escarp
now Kiriko is the only problem age
twilit patrol
I was about to say that 
peak escarp
which they could fix by just retconning her growing up alongside Genji/Hanzo
peak escarp
what was her age before
47
hushed jetty
ahh
twilit patrol
Kiriko isn’t 24 ?
peak escarp
which would have meant Sojourn was 19 when the omnic crisis started
51 makes her 23 at the start of the crisis - much more reasonable for someone with 4 years of military experience
peak escarp
Kiriko isn’t 24 ?
she's still 21
twilit patrol
Yeah but it’s wrong
hushed jetty
either they retcon her growing up with hanzo and genji or they make her like 30
peak escarp
26 would work
still young enough to be immature but old enough to have trained with the Shimadas as a child
that would give her a 9 year difference between her and Genji
golden oak
that would give her a 9 year difference between her and Genji
Isnt genji 37 now
peak escarp
Was kiriko changed??
not yet
lavish vessel
Aw alright, hopefully should be changed soon then seeming as they fixed sojourns
fiery echo
Just study and you will
On my way for the power of knowledge muahaha
Wait a second... if the game continue over the years, including de development of the lore, story, wars, etc., there will be a point where the characters will die, isn't it? I mean, they will get too old
twilit patrol
That’s a good point
Sigma is the older character (64)
But I don’t think they’re going to kill characters because they’re too old
I think they said it’s not in their plan to kill off them
knotty frigate
.
twilit patrol
And Overwatch 2 take place around 2080. I don’t think it’s in their plan to tell the story in the XXII century.
That’s my thinking about the characters dying because they’re too old
hushed jetty
do omnics have a power source that we know about? they obviously have to be powered by something but like. what
do they have to charge themselves? or does it just last an absurdly long time
quick grail
cheer people, finally the complains did something, amazing how the fans have better info than developers
peak escarp
do omnics have a power source that we know about? they obviously have to be powe...
the recent short story about Torbjorn assessing Bastion indicates that the Bastion model at least has 3 redundant power cores, each powerful enough to power Torbjorn's entire workshop
quick grail
still sojourn is too young, she should be 55
quick grail
With 4 years older her sister went from child pregnancy to teen pregnancy
hushed jetty
the recent short story about Torbjorn assessing Bastion indicates that the Basti...
oooooo
hushed jetty
is soldier gay?
- yes
- born like that i guess
- no one atm but previously some guy named Vincent
peak escarp
With 4 years older her sister went from child pregnancy to teen pregnancy
we already knew she had Bonnie at a young age
18 isn't unusual
worthy rose
1) yes
2) born like that i guess
3) no one atm but previously some guy named Vin...
ahh how can you be born gay
peak escarp
how can you be born straight?
hushed jetty
thats just how sexuality works i think
peak escarp
exactly
hushed jetty
im not saying he was kissing boys as a baby im saying he's just Gay and probably always was
worthy rose
how are you always gay
hushed jetty
how else would his gayness come about
there isnt like. an inciting incident that makes people homosexual they're just Like That
hushed jetty
neither am i! yet here we are
worthy rose
i’m just asking dawg
hushed jetty
i wasnt trying to be rude or anything
worthy rose
who’s the next hero coming?
hushed jetty
we dont know but we susp3ct it's mauga
twilit patrol
who’s the next hero coming?
We don't know yet
worthy rose
this is next season right
worthy rose
HUH
peak escarp
season 7 will add a control map
worthy rose
i swear i seen something saying we was getting a tank is season 7
hushed jetty
the recent short story about Torbjorn assessing Bastion indicates that the Basti...
i wonder what would happen to bastion if one of these was removed. surely he doesnt need all 3
worthy rose
season 7 will add a control map
2cp?
twilit patrol
No it isn't in season 7
hushed jetty
no
peak escarp
koth
hushed jetty
both?
twilit patrol
Hmm
twilit patrol
The mode with Lijiang, Ilios
peak escarp
2cp was called Assault
lavish vessel
season 7 will add a control map
Will it be Gothenburg or a totally new place??
peak escarp
we don't know
twilit patrol
Will it be Gothenburg or a totally new place??
We don't know
lavish vessel
Ah alright
lavish vessel
Oooo yeah that would be cool, and could add some more lore for Lifeweaver
mellow stratus
We all want a underwater map
opaque scroll
no
lavish vessel
We all want a underwater map
Yesssss, I loved the vibe of talantis or whatever the map was called, but it just didn’t play too well
worn latch
a lot of people want the Atlantic Arcology
I HOPE SO OMFG
dense lark
Kiriko has a full on fucking backstory built into the game
Don't tell me she isn't unique
SHE IS
Like come on
twilit patrol
Yeah she can teleport
dense lark
Yeah she can teleport
....
Yeah but
Uhhhh
Yea there is really nothing else to it tbh
worn latch
Idk where kiriko even fits in with the lore. Like is it just magical???? Does that mean that the supernatural canonically exists in the lore??? Like what
worn latch
There's a theory where they're both hardlight
ruby ridge
Oooo yeah that would be cool, and could add some more lore for Lifeweaver
lifeweaver lore mfghhhhhh
merry token
There's a theory where they're both hardlight
It’s no longer a good theory considering Kiriko is actually magic and the dragons are supposed to be similar to her fox spirit
worn latch
Yeah ur right but like 😭😭😭
merry token
Me when the writers retcon magic or smth
Was it even ever not a possibility for their dragons to be magic?
worn latch
Bro it just like
Idk
It's strange imo
To have 3 characters who possibly have magical powers and not even address it
twilit patrol
I like Lifeweaver lore
worn latch
Me too
ruby ridge
We all do hooray!!
merry token
Bua moment
worn latch
Realzies
quick grail
Omg imagine a map like rapture from bioshock
we had that terrible map made by a fan that blizzard used as new content for the game instead of making a new one
peak escarp
they said it was made by the community, and it was
the devs made it based off of community input
hollow tinsel
Ohhh
I feel they coulda still made it cleaner. Everything looked blocky and unfinished
quick grail
so doesnt matter who made it, the map was terrible, if the fans made it and was added to the game developers fault for making an awfull map, if the developers made the map based on fan concepts, developers fault for making an awfull map
vapid tusk
what does talantis have to do with lore hmmm
vapid tusk
To have 3 characters who possibly have magical powers and not even address it
at least it's showcased in the cinematics - what we do need is more zen lore
nimble smelt
if an orange is called orange than why isnt a apple called red, OH MY GOODNESS i cant handle this anymore, eating a hamburger with no honey mustard
peak escarp
if an orange is called orange than why isnt a apple called red, OH MY GOODNESS i...
because the colour orange was named after the fruit
also that isn't lore
worthy rose
if an orange is called orange than why isnt a apple called red, OH MY GOODNESS i...
is this supposed to be funny
merry token
void vale
do we know anything about next seasons new tank hero?
void vale
damn im slow af mb
aight then
golden oak
So happy zen will finally get some lore in pve, cuz he was just “some guy” in the lore basically
errant minnow
People who live in #lore-discussion (totally not hating doctor six)
twilit patrol
Unfortunately yes 
golden oak
I read up on some comics not long ago so not as much of a lore noob as I used to be haha
Btw are the Tracer “London calling” or whatever it’s called comics are worth reading? Those are the only I haven’t read yet (and the spin offs)
peak escarp
they're okay
lavish vessel
London calling is probably my fave comic, has so many of my fave parts of the lore in it
worn latch
it's hard to talk lore with casual fans because they just don't get it
I'm trying so hard to get into the lore because I'm actually obsessed but I have the attention span of a toddler
I get bored so easy
round hemlock
I'm trying so hard to get into the lore because I'm actually obsessed but I have...
Facts
worn latch
I know everything about lifeweaver lore tho so it's pkay
I might've written a 5 page essay about his origin story for my English class
Analysis or whatever
golden oak
Is roadhog losing his family during the crisis canon or headcanon
peak escarp
headcanon
rapid vapor
I'm trying so hard to get into the lore because I'm actually obsessed but I have...
So real
The only lore I know from the back of my hand is like.. Moira’s..
rain shoal
OOoooooo thats clever
worn latch
The only lore I know from the back of my hand is like.. Moira’s..
I would've never guessed
vapid tusk
it's hard to talk lore with casual fans because they just don't get it
What am I to you then (just curious)
peak escarp
casual
tribal hawk
Widow back
vapid tusk
😭 (reponding to Doctor Six not whoever you are)
twilit patrol
Just a random
fresh rock
We're all casuals I suppose. Other than Doc. Although I do like learing about lore.. it intrigues me.
peak escarp
if you're a lore regular, you're not a casual
twilit patrol
I am just a Regular it's enough for me (Idk how to get the lore regular role)
You are moderator Doc ?
twilit patrol
Oh ok
vapid tusk
if you're a lore regular, you're not a casual
There should be a separate role for people obsessed with Shimada lore
peak escarp
There should be a separate role for people obsessed with Shimada lore
I think they've suffered enough
dense shell
what if hanzo and genji were related?
worn latch
what if hanzo and genji were related?
That would be crazy
vapid tusk
I think they've suffered enough
Are you calling me a detriment to their story? 😠
vapid tusk
what if hanzo and genji were related?
What if Winston was a gorilla
dense shell
What if Winston was a gorilla
okay cmon now, stop making up nonsense. eveyone knows there is 0% chance of that.
peak escarp
Are you calling me a detriment to their story? 😠
no I'm saying people obsessed with the Shimada brothers have suffered enough by being Shimada fans
vapid tusk
Haha true
lethal steppe
Apparently they changed sojourn’s age from 47 to 51 and changed nobody elses
worn latch
Hopefully Kiriko gets changed soon
Idk why they hate making their female characters older
twilit patrol
Idk why they hate making their female characters older
Not it is just the age is wrong
worn latch
we've got several older female heroes
Barely look their age
peak escarp
it's subjective
steel cosmos
What if Winston was a gorilla
no chance since hes a scientist
spare fox
Bruh everyone seems to think once women are over 35 they become cryptkeepers lol
fresh rock
The fools.
past copper
Bruh everyone seems to think once women are over 35 they become cryptkeepers lol
I mean, I really depends how they take care of themselves
Not everyone does
Take the Junkers for example
spare fox
Yeah
chilly surge
is there a comp channel in this?
fresh rock
?
fresh rock
is there a comp channel in this?
I'd recommend #overwatch-serious
Seriously though, why do they keep asking the lore channel? 🤦
vapid tusk
it's adjacent to this one so maybe they get mixed up idk
does illari and illios have a connection?
hushed jetty
probably not
worn latch
does illari and illios have a connection?
Illari has like 0 lore connections
woven jewel
So far
vapid tusk
omg so patient is that you master oogway
worn latch
Don't tell anyone...
twilit patrol
Seriously though, why do they keep asking the lore channel? 🤦
Because they don’t know the word ‘’lore’’
fiery echo
In my case, sometimes I ask things here because this channel looks more nice and polite than the others 😅😅
worn latch
Don't
grand wedge
About Kiriko's age and how to solve the problem with the lore, there is two options for Blizzard :
-
Edit the biography to say that “when she was 9, the head of the clan, Sojiro Shimada, was assassinated by the rival Hashimoto clan.” Instead of "twelve" Problem solved, the Shimada clan still fell around 12 years ago, it works.
-
Edit her age so she is 24 instead of 21. Problem solved, her age when Sojiro died fit with her current age now.
limpid agate
Its an unfixable problem
limpid agate
Not significantly, no
1 solves nothing
And 2 isn't a major enough change to have an impact
She would need to be like, 27
twilit patrol
27 ?!
keen summit
Illari has like 0 lore connections
Its sad yeah. Id say shes most likely joining overwatch as attonement for her actions
I love that some people callvher a sociopath cause of her origin story, like did we watxh the same video?!
keen summit
I don't know why this character exist
Relatable shonen protagonist anime girl
keen summit
Kiriko fits shonen tropes beat by beat
twilit patrol
This character is a pure fan service
keen summit
Ahem, a normal girl with a mother who happens to teach another clanbsword fighting amd has a gramdmother who befriended a magical fox spirit is taught at a young age with the other clan. She also starts befroending that fox amd starts gaining ger powers. Eventually the clan fell because of internal conflict and now she fights with a group against the evil new clan with her powers
Even the personality fits
Like yes there are other basic plots in thepry like soldier 76 but its excused cuz first up he is ome pf the first heroes and secondly theres still interesting depth because of the whole overwatch situation
twilit patrol
''Magical fox spirit''
keen summit
Yeah
And now she throws around quipy one liners
Inspiration is good btw dont get me wrong. Rama is likely partially inspired by mozes or so i believe yet it doesnt make him less complex.
Moses sorry mozes is dutch version
So no, inspiration isnt bad aslong as it either makes the character better or doesbt basically define them
I also dont really like hanzo for that same reason, as he just is the honorabke samurai trope, but his story and thematic stuff makes it better as hes supposed to show a person stuck following tradition. Which also fits to his background
And genji then shows the balance of both tradition and modernity. And then kiriko did that AGAIN which is another gripe of mine. The triad wouldve worked best if kiriko instead was completely modern based to show the trio as
Hanzo is tradition
Genji is tradition and modern balanced
Kiriko is modern
But no they decided to do it with kiriko again and stated it as special to her, being both traditional and modern
keen summit
New map leak tupoa, tupoa also is a chiefry is samoa
golden oak
New map leak tupoa, tupoa also is a chiefry is samoa
Hmm I wonder who will the next hero be 
rapid vapor
I wanna know more about Moira when she was younger… anyways
keen summit
Hmm I wonder who will the next hero be <:clueless:1075441042578493480>
i mean cmon
it has to be right
fresh rock
New map leak tupoa, tupoa also is a chiefry is samoa
Don't always trust leaks.
twilit patrol
No leaks here please
keen summit
I mean it never has mattered before
But forgot how to spoiler tag
But the leaks seem quite real and new map seems to be in samoa
keen summit
....
My guy
I knoe
However, theres a difference between leaks. Some are yes we dont know but this pne? It has a legit lookibg map and skins
And it looking like it might be in samoa is mainly based on the name and environment
It either kills or makes mauga for s8, either peru and samoa poster was then the map after illari or samoa will tease mauga
fresh rock
Even if you're right, leaks are still leaks.
And are possibly fake.
You are spreading possible misinformation, and possibly ruining the fun for others.
Also, don't you think it's odd we're getting a Samoa map when we might get Mauga? Doesn't that seem.. off?
keen summit
Also, don't you think it's odd we're getting a Samoa map when we might get Mauga...
Honestly no.
Not at all
Its very understandable even. First off its supposed to be map, hero in season stuff. One season is mao, the other heo
It is however sadly likely it also could mean nothing fir mauga
Im generally quite good at telling when something is a faje leak or not
worn latch
Its sad yeah. Id say shes most likely joining overwatch as attonement for her ac...
I think she also has some sort of connection to Moira?
keen summit
We dont know. Maybe i missed it tho
keen summit
Well moira is actively expirimenting in game she implies that often
worthy rose
golden oak
Also when moira heals Illari, Illari says „dont experiment on me”
And when illari heals Moira she says „I’ll put this on the list of things I regret”
Even mercy has less interactions with moira, and we know that mercy actually could know her
peak escarp
if they did meet, Moira would be very interested in her
spare fox
I think it's just to emphasize how they are very different people. Moira is all about the results no matter the cost, Illari is regretful of what happened as a result of her power
golden oak
Yeah, she’s a living relic
So far she’s the only character not linked to anyone
She desperately needs more lore
worthy rose
So, a guestion. Why are the Overwatch and Blackwatch members grouping up and then fighting each other while doing weird missions?
worthy rose
Ah
rare trail
and when it did exist it was part of overwatch
worthy rose
That explains it
rapid vapor
if they did meet, Moira would be very interested in her
I LOVE MOIRA, YAYYYAAY I can talk about her lore and theories for hours
twilit patrol
rapid vapor
<:Moira:914130464187490354>
Real
twilit patrol
She’s ugly
rapid vapor
She’s so prettyyyyyyy
twilit patrol
JQ is pretty.
fresh rock
What does that have to do with lore?
lavish vessel
What does that have to do with lore?
It’s canon to the lore that she’s pretty, duh
rapid vapor
It’s canon to the lore that she’s pretty, duh <:LMAO:870212775287341066>
REALLL
Guys should I make a widowmaker essay about How shes the definition of dark beauty and love in tragic situations
pearl scroll
Yes
rapid vapor
Aight bet
unkempt abyss
what would maugas abilities be? all i know is hes a tank
golden oak
what would maugas abilities be? all i know is hes a tank
He’s talon’s heavy assault, so probably what they have