lore-discussion

[past copper]

You know what he a cool story skin for Reaper?

Battle damaged skin

Just imagine Reaper having battle damage with his cloak torn and his mask broken, showing the scars he gained from fighting Jack and Moira’s experiments

[hushed jetty]

id love to see reaper's face but idk if they'll show us or leave it a mystery

[past copper]

They’ve shown it in a spray

[hushed jetty]

ooooooo
its covered in shadow but that goes so hard

[vapid tusk]

reaper's face isn't a mystery lol

[peak escarp]

not like Roadhog's

[red apex]

Canonically, who you yall rate as the top 6 strongest character?

[vapid tusk]

ahh s*** here we go again

[peak escarp]

1. Sigma
2. Symmetra
3. Winston
4. Orisa
5. Doomfist
6. Reaper

[hushed jetty]

oh my godddddd. if i had a nickel,

[hushed jetty]

post-overwatch it somewhat is. we at least dont have a complete uncov3red image of it

[vapid tusk]

would LW be considered the same as Sym in terms of power since they came from the same tech company or whatever group it was

[hushed jetty]

i kinda imagine having your body constantly being deformed and reformed kinda fucks up your appearance

[peak escarp]

similar, but Symmetra is noted to be particularly gifted with lightbending

[peak escarp]

a lot of headcanons make him monsterous or demonic, but I think he's just old and scarred

[hushed jetty]

would be a lot cooler if he was monsterous tbh, at least imo

[red apex]

I notice that a lot of people on tt always forget sym, being able to create literally anything from the tips of your fingers is quite powerful, and with LW, he also falls behind because i would consider him a force of nature, and nature is, well, immoral

[noble adder]

whats the rouge god program

rogue

[ruby ridge]

Anubis

The reason of the omnic crisis

Basically made all omnics revolt against their will

[cedar granite]

Why would midtown be part of the next 3 missions?

[ruby ridge]

Who said that?

But it’s possible

In blizzcon we saw images of echo Cassidy and someone else I forgot escaping in a ship ontop of a highly urbanised city

It didn’t have the architectures or savannah of numbani

So the next best guess is midtown

[cedar granite]

That would make sense

[golden oak]

Why midtown

[twilit patrol]

[fresh rock]

Wait, why Midtown? Where did we get that from?

[ruby ridge]

What about circuit Royale?

[hollow tinsel]

Reaper is interesting. Why not someone like Reinhardt or Ramattra?

[ruby ridge]

Ramattta is a omnic, he can be lethal but I assume he can be destroyed with enough teamwork

[hollow tinsel]

But reaper is just a person with some ghost powers tho

He's strong, but I feel like Rein could diff him

[ruby ridge]

He is unkillable + he can transform into a form where he does not take damage

Reinhardt is already old, he isn’t hard to beat

And his armor isn’t that strong either

Like if he went against a bastion one by one he’d likely lose

[hollow tinsel]

You make a point there

[distant sparrow]

how did null sector get all the materials for a world attack? talon?

[peak escarp]

yep

[distant sparrow]

how do we know that

[peak escarp]

because Ramattra made an alliance with Doomfist at the end of Storm Rising

[distant sparrow]

oh ok

why they trying to hunt my boy maximillian

[peak escarp]

because Maximilien knew where Doomfist was going to be

[distant sparrow]

oh ok

[golden oak]

Talon got that bread then

I mean, huge flying ships, titan units

[distant sparrow]

^

what is doomfist's opinion on omnics

[peak escarp]

he seems to be neutral

[distant sparrow]

does null sector wanna wipe out humanity as "revenge" for what they have done to omnics, or put humanity in it's place below omnics

[golden oak]

Max and Ram work with him so

[golden oak]

They want equal rights for omnics

[distant sparrow]

so why dont they ask

[peak escarp]

they say they want equal rights, but I don't think Ramattra would stop there

[distant sparrow]

deploy the massive robots and then ask for equal rights b4 shooting

[distant sparrow]

probably

[peak escarp]

plus right now "Null Sector" is just Ramattra and millions of drones

[golden oak]

Ramattra had a disagreement with Mondatta about the shambali not doing enough to protect omnics and fighting for equal rights in a peaceful way

[distant sparrow]

numbani is the only place where omnics and humans are equal right

[peak escarp]

not the only place

but the most high-profile

[distant sparrow]

oh ok

ramattra has nothing against orisa right? remember hearing an elimination voiceline about it

[golden oak]

He never met orisa

[distant sparrow]

oh

[peak escarp]

if he did meet her, he'd probably try to recruit her

[ruby ridge]

Is it confirmed that every batch of missions will be three

Or could there be more

[distant sparrow]

@peak escarp have you ever considered changing your name to lore warlored?

[ruby ridge]

For next mission there’s suravasa midtown and circuit tousle I assume then??

[peak escarp]

I appreciate the pun, but no

[distant sparrow]

hm ok

why did the UN ban overwatch (assuming what winston said in lucio's club is lore-accurate)

[ruby ridge]

Black watch and other things like overwatch disobeying sovereign countries orders

[distant sparrow]

oh

[peak escarp]

yeah

[ruby ridge]

Like in the uprising mission, the UK didn’t want overwatch there but jack morrison told them to go ahead

[distant sparrow]

why wouldnt the UK want overwatch in king street?

[peak escarp]

because Overwatch was already being investigated

[ruby ridge]

I don’t remember but I think it was already after the black watch incident

Yeah

[peak escarp]

because of the Venice incident

[distant sparrow]

the venice incident?

[golden oak]

Did overwatch collectively support rights for omnics? I mean it’s because of overwatch that sentient omnics came to be

[distant sparrow]

please, enlighten me

[peak escarp]

Retribution

[peak escarp]

how is it because of Overwatch?

[golden oak]

Mina Liao was part of overwatch wasn’t she

[distant sparrow]

i never played overwatch 1 so idk what happened

[peak escarp]

Aurora was created before Overwatch began

[peak escarp]

https://youtu.be/uRriA5X7Epw

[distant sparrow]

mk

[golden oak]

Yeah but the iris happened during overwatch times

[peak escarp]

doesn't really mean Overwatch is responsible

Dr. Liao is responsible

[golden oak]

And she’s an overwatch member

[twilit patrol]

No

[ruby ridge]

Did we ever find out who assasinated Liao?

[peak escarp]

nope

[golden oak]

Talon?

[twilit patrol]

[ruby ridge]

We jus tkmow it was during a terorrist attack if I remember correctly

[peak escarp]

it was probably Talon

[twilit patrol]

Yeah

[ruby ridge]

I do wonder what hero is gonna be focused on the most in the next 3 pve missions

[peak escarp]

probably Zenyatta

[twilit patrol]

Probably Zen

[golden oak]

Genji?

And zen yeah

[ruby ridge]

Rio had Lucio,
Toronto had sojourn
Gothenburg had torbjorn
Suravasa will have zen

But then midtown?

And idk circuit royale?

[peak escarp]

we've only seen Cassidy, Pharah and Echo on Midtown

[twilit patrol]

Circuit Royale it won’t be a hero

But

An NPC I think

[peak escarp]

and the only part of Circuit Royal we've seen is a cutscene

[twilit patrol]

Maximilien ?

[ruby ridge]

Isn’t there a scene where heavy talon soldiers drop in front of midtown spawn area in the trailer?

[golden oak]

Reggie is a lawyer?

[ruby ridge]

Yes

[golden oak]

People say he’s inspired by Saul goodman from breaking bad

[distant sparrow]

aint no way 💀

[golden oak]

I mean look at him

[ruby ridge]

He also has his own shop in midtown

And he has voice lines about being a lawyer in the pve

[golden oak]

Fr?

[distant sparrow]

ye

[ruby ridge]

And he sends a message in Winston’s computer talking about how he’s making a lawsuit against null sector

[golden oak]

Ramattra is shaking as we speak

[north hazel]

whos that sexy man

[spare fox]

We might see Reggie again representing OW legally in the future lol

Not like, as a story obv but in passing

[zenith mango]

@peak escarp remember when we were discussing which heroes had a tragic backstory and stuff

What about zen?

[peak escarp]

we don't know his entire backstory

something tragic probably happened before he went to the Shambali

[golden oak]

Ramattra saved him right?

[peak escarp]

yes

[zenith mango]

What is sigma and sombras relationship

[hushed jetty]

we dont know. based on in game interactions they seem to be friendly, but in game interactions are very dubiously canon

[grand wedge]

Sombra was in the Talon team that got Sigma out of his.. prison/hospital. The PvP interaction let us think that she worry for him, and the PvP interaction reflecty the canon personnality of the characters, especially those who work/interact in canon with each other, and that's the case for Sigma and Sombra.

[ruby ridge]

Sombra is Mexican, in Mexican culture it’s habit being nice and respectful to elders, and they could also just have a genuine friendship

[hushed jetty]

i would think the way they talk is a little more than just a "habit of being respectful to elders"

[minor tide]

It is true it's habit to be nice to elders in Mexican culture becaues I'm Mexican myself👍

[spare fox]

Although she's out for herself I think she's got morals and sees Sigma is just being used

[woven jewel]

I think it's a mix of Mexican culture and the fact that she knows Sigma has no way of fighting back

[noble adder]

bro what

sigma could destroy pretty much everyone

lore wise

[merry token]

But he doesn’t have a need to

He doesn’t understand that Talon is mistreating him

[noble adder]

i know that

he just said that sigma doesnt have a way of fighting back

[ruby ridge]

I don’t think sigma even has control of his powers

In the code of violence story we saw that je was just toying with a rubix cube

[buoyant wadi]

Could anyone discuss widowmaker lore to me

[ruby ridge]

She had a husband who was a high rank in overwatch, talon tried to kill the husband but failed multiple times, so instead they kidnapped widowmaker and mentally conditioned her into a sleeper agent, overwatch then “saved” widowmaker,

2 weeks later widowmaker killed her husband in his sleep

Then she went back to talon

[nocturne jacinth]

did anyone hear the recent news about orisa being human?

[ashen lagoon]

Cap

[nocturne jacinth]

its not cap

i saw a theory

you dont have the experience that i have

[cloud thunder]

actually it is hinted that pharah and symettra are lesbians together

[fiery echo]

What?

[worthy rose]

am i the only one who found it jarring that the characters dont know each other despite all the voiceline interactions ingame since 2016

like bastion and rein

or lucio

in the storymode

In-game lines are pretty much never canon

Because PvP isn’t canon

i really kinda think, after playing the missions, that they should have left the specifics of the lore sort of blurry

[worthy rose]

yea but its weird to pump out all that lore, like the extra timeline lore in MK11, then just drop it all

the lore came in shorts and interactions, and we made up the rest

If it’s not canon then it’s not lore

and now its just kinda thrown out

[worthy rose]

how was it not canon

Because PvP isn’t canon, so nearly all of the lines in it aren’t either

And therefore it isn’t lore if it isn’t part of canon

most of the interactions directly follow and expand on established lore

[lavish vessel]

They’re based off the lore but they’re not canon

[worthy rose]

are you saying repear is pain free and that moira doesnt torture sigma

Some lines reference canon

because that part of the lore is built on the interactions

Most lines are not canon though

[worthy rose]

they expand, they dont reference, thats the whole point of them

im so confused

all im saying is that after building everything through interactions, shorts, events and skin descriptions, i really feel like they should have left the lore ambiguous and thin instead of dedicated story missions

like i feel it kinda jarring for Rein to not know Bastion

i know its lore

but its a videogame that ive spent 6 years in, so it feels jarring to me

[peak escarp]

think of it this way - the game happens after all the story missions

so the story missions (and shorts and comics and stories) are showing us how they got to know each other

[rare trail]

is this art on shambali new?

[peak escarp]

I don't think so

[twilit patrol]

I've never paid any attention to that

But I guess this art isn't new

[merry mason]

It’s not new I saw it there day 1

[golden oak]

Always been there

[fair void]

What's the lore reason for widowmaker being so caked up?

[noble hill]

Talon injected her with booty cream 🥶🥶

[fair void]

Guess I'm a Talon follower then

[fresh rock]

!!loreonly

[twilit nacelle]

This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[fair void]

I am very serious

[fresh rock]

That has nothing to do with lore.

[fair void]

Ok let me rephrase

Widowmakers antomy makes no sense, her legs are insanely long and her body works wonders. Does she have some something wrong with her or is it just wacky Blizzard design

[round rune]

She's french

[fair void]

Ah that makes sense

[peak escarp]

wacky Blizzard design

also she was a ballerina

[ruby ridge]

Widowmaker is supposed to be the stereotypical femme fatale

she’d gonna look like that

[fair void]

I genuinely forgot this so that answers it thanks

[silent vector]

how does the hamster not get seriously injured from all the g force and the piledrivers

i cant imagine he has very much to cushion him

[rare trail]

mostly because its a game but there could also be things softening the impact inside the ball

[mental gale]

Ballet

[shadow marsh]

Just wanna state that I heard people saying her rear only looks big because she was curling her spine like an instagram model. In one of her victory poses she's standing straight. But apart from that she does have a wacky blizzard design

[golden oak]

Ayo Illari says “I’ll add that to the list of things I regret” when healing moira
The shade is so strong for some reason
Even mercy doesn’t hate her as much

[rare trail]

illari hasnt met any other hero right?

[golden oak]

Not that we know of

But the amount of interactions with moira is weird

[rare trail]

yeah

i wonder if she'll be in heroes ascendant

[golden oak]

Probably only heroes we saw on the cover

[rare trail]

orisas rework will probably become canon in her story

" From the streets of Numbani to the alleys of Junkertown, the highest floors of Lijiang Tower to the stars themselves," i wonder what to the stars themselves mean

maybe illari?

wait nvm probably hammond

i assume this will be about young hammond?

[hushed jetty]

horizon lunar colony i imagine, so hammond and/or winston

[rare trail]

i assume hammond because winston isnt on the cover

[zenith mango]

I think it might be some of the adventures he went on before he decided to stay in junkertown full time

[zenith mango]

can i send pictures

[rare trail]

if you have reg you should be able to

[woven jewel]

yes

So long it's lore related ig

[chrome plover]

Ima be honest, they should have had reyes co-lead overwatch so they have Jackson be the basically good cop side and Gabriel the bad cop side and since they both have a different perspective then they both can actually manage overwatch better

If jack didn't have the balls to do something, Gabriel fs will

[haughty plume]

bro is on to something 🔥🔥 i wish he wasnt 🧯🧯

[haughty plume]

https://tenor.com/view/pass-the-lore-lore-nav-xo-taytay-gif-25554546

[ruby ridge]

That’s what caused the whole Venice incident

And Morrison didn’t want overwatch to be regulated but it had to be, and he had to follow with it

Gabriel just didn’t stand it

That’s why blackwatch was formed, do bigger things in shadow

Even if it was against the rules

[ruby ridge]

okay sombra

[west galleon]

Does sigma have 3 personality?

[rare trail]

no

[west galleon]

Why

[rare trail]

why would he

[west galleon]

He is always talking to himself and change the way he act sometimes he would nice then get so angry

[iron plume]

People typically change the way they act when they are angry

[golden oak]

How come Brigitte is brunette when both her parents are blonde (unless ingrid dyed her hair, since her eyebrows are kinda dark)

[spare fox]

lol why is this such a pervasive question??

1. hair dye exists
2. genetics are more complex than the punit square model you learned in middle school

[golden oak]

Just curious

But pretty sure blonde parents can’t have brunette child

[quick grail]

there is no way blonde parents can have a kid with brown hair, and you can have blonde hair in the head but in the rest of your body is darker

[golden oak]

Yeah so either hair dye or blizzard team don’t know genetics or Ingrid cheated

[ruby ridge]

thank god Reinhardt is also blonde..

[golden oak]

Lmao yeah

[ruby ridge]

This is true tho

In torbjorn grandkids photo

We see ppl with brown hair like Brigitte

So it’s probably just a long relative

Or the family switches between blonde and brown hair

[golden oak]

Uh pretty sure those could be brigitte’s cousins also

[rare trail]

two blonde parents can have a brown haired child

[golden oak]

Or cousins’ kids

[ruby ridge]

Yeah genetics don’t matter solely on the parents

Like there are times where genes skip generations

If a white person had a darker skinned relative at one point or another the genes could appear when they had a baby

[fiery echo]

It is depends of the generation as well. I'm brunette, my mom redhead, if I have a child, the probability of have my child with redhead is high beacuse will be the third generation. Even tho I'm brunette and the dad too.
My uncle and antie both are blondie and got one brunette child, that because one of their grandpa

There was also a real life case where the dad was concerned about how ugly he son born, he thought mother cheated on him. Results the son have the identical face of the grandfather of the dad

[peak escarp]

Brigitte has auburn/reddish hair, not brunette

hair color and hair redness are controlled by separate genes - the easy answer is that both Ingrid and Torbjorn carry the recessive gene for red hair, and both passed it on to Brigitte

[golden oak]

Oh

[peak escarp]

here's the simple version

[hollow tinsel]

Science!!!!1!1!1

[merry mason]

How did you just have that ready

[mental gale]

The fact you had this is actually mind boggling

[peak escarp]

I made it ages ago because this question keeps coming up

took me a second to find it in my post history

[midnight rivet]

this is simple!? o.o

[peak escarp]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanin here's the complicated version

[midnight rivet]

Well played

[worthy rose]

Is there a reason Ana’s scope and her shrike skin look so similar?

I would send a picture but I don’t have perms yet

[peak escarp]

just design similarities

[vapid tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1148470726093971467/1148856253536284682/OW2_Ana_Skin_Shrike-Collage_Maker-17-Oct-2022-12.png

[odd meteor]

snore discussion

[rare trail]

?

[odd meteor]

@supple turtle

[supple turtle]

whats up mate

[odd meteor]

☁️

[wary raft]

hey guys

[mellow stratus]

hey

[vapid tusk]

Lore only

[zenith mango]

Is soldiers story over

Or will he make another appearance with everyone

[rare trail]

hes gonna be in heroes ascendant

[quick grail]

uuhhh nobody story is over, actually all of them have barelly started, the closes character to have it story over has to be bastion, he revived, got reconstructed and is a good robot, even changed torjbon, what else is left for him?

[vapid tusk]

Does DVa and Brig have any in-game voicelines that imply their marriage at all

[peak escarp]

they're not married

[sacred helm]

Lore wise the now bastion is inaccurate

[peak escarp]

how so?

[woeful stratus]

overwatch players learn genetics

[wicked ice]

No way

[ruby ridge]

ILLARIS 18

[peak escarp]

heroes have birthdays now

[ruby ridge]

So kirikos 21…

Idk how this makes sense with her training with the shimadas as kids

Genjis 38 and hanzo 40

[sonic mica]

Hamster dies of old age

"On average, a hamster lives 18 to 36 months."

[rare trail]

illari is 18?

[twilit patrol]

18 ?

[fresh rock]

Where did we get this

[lavish vessel]

It’s on the official overwatch site

[fresh rock]

Well dang

[merry mason]

Illari’s birthday is on the winter solstice (it’s most common day at least) so it can be seen as the sun rising in the darkest time. Something like that

[rare trail]

where?

[lavish vessel]

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-gb/heroes/

[rare trail]

oh i see it now

[lavish vessel]

Oh

[rare trail]

second youngest hero ig

wait is the timeskip between ow1 and ow2 2 years not 3?

[rare trail]

third*

i forgot about echo

wait

orisa was built before the timeskip right?

[vapid tusk]

Whaaaat I thought they were

[rare trail]

why?

[vapid tusk]

I guess I shouldn’t trust Overwatch forums then lmao

[rare trail]

yeah

im so confused about the ages

so the timeskip is one year i guess?

but also two years?

because dva is 21 now

but orisa is only 1

[vapid tusk]

One year after recall

I think

[rare trail]

zenyatta is 33?

[fresh rock]

Kiriko's age doesn't add up to Genji's and Hanzo's.

[rare trail]

why not?

[fresh rock]

Kiriko is 21, Genji is 37, and Hanzo is 40

[rare trail]

yeah

[fresh rock]

But that doesn't make too much sense.

Weren't Kiriko and Genji childhood friends?

[rare trail]

they knew each other when kiri was a kid

[woven jewel]

Maybe they were in their mid 20s then

[rare trail]

yea

[woven jewel]

And Genji was just like a fun uncle or somethin

[fresh rock]

Okay that's slightly adding up now

[ruby ridge]

The answer is that they wanted kriiko to be connected to the shimadas because they’re extremely popular in Ow but also wanted to make her young for those type of ppl

[rare trail]

what "type of ppl"?

[woven jewel]

I thought it was to reflect her semi-rebellious personality

[peak escarp]

timeskip is ~3 years

Orisa's age is an oddity though

[rare trail]

so she was made during the timeskip i guess?

[stiff zephyr]

Ain't no way Genji and Kiri are 16 years apart here

[rare trail]

ok

[stiff zephyr]

Why can't the writing team get the ages right, they've consistently gotten it wrong since Day 1

[rare trail]

wdym

[stiff zephyr]

This isn't the first time character ages haven't lined up with each other, like I believe they screwed up Torb and Brig's at first and had to retcon it

[rare trail]

what?

[ruby ridge]

Kiriko being younger is more popular then being older, relates with overwatch teen audience more

[ruby ridge]

I think this is the last age retcon now that they established the canonical ear

Year

[rare trail]

?

[stiff zephyr]

I hope so, they really should give us a proper timeline now

Like with actual years

[rare trail]

we got one

[stiff zephyr]

Did we?

[rare trail]

yes

[ruby ridge]

I want a more in-depth one

We only got a flimsy winston one

[stiff zephyr]

Oh there it is

Yeah that's weak

Just give us years, how hard is it

[ruby ridge]

I’m praying on my hands and knees that they don’t bring lesser heroes into the story by making them join overwatch

[rare trail]

they gave us years

[ruby ridge]

If illari joins overwatch I’m gonna SCREAM

If I wake up one day and lifeweaver is in overwatch I’m gonna cry

[stiff zephyr]

Where?

[rare trail]

in winstons computer

[stiff zephyr]

Locked behind the paid missions?

[rare trail]

no

[stiff zephyr]

Must've missed it then, mb

[tough charm]

Why

[ruby ridge]

I don’t want every hero with little active lore to join overwatch

Make them villains or something just

Don’t make them another zarya Lucio or baptiste

[tough charm]

Lifeweaver isn’t a villain tho

[ruby ridge]

I’m not exclusively talking about lifeweaver

I’m talking about heroes with less lore in general

I don’t want them to just pull the joining overwatch card

[tough charm]

It’ll probably be the anti-heroes who don’t join either

Ashe Junker queen junkrat roadhog

[ruby ridge]

It’s a shame really because it’s not fair for other corporations like talon and vishkar to barely get any new members

[peak escarp]

we don't have canonical years yet, just relative years

[stiff zephyr]

Just checked, and nah, that's the really flimsy one. Better than nothing, but needs more detail

[peak escarp]

the omnic crisis was 28-26 years ago, but we don't know what year that is

[ruby ridge]

I like that every hero above 30
experienced the crisis

[peak escarp]

most people assume the current year in OW1 was 2076, but there's no evidence for that

[ruby ridge]

I do wonder tho, was south asia affected much during the crisis?

[tough charm]

That’s a year before cyberpunk

Impossible

[ruby ridge]

I don’t remember much about the Omnic crisis in lifeweaver and symettra stories

[tough charm]

Where did people get the year 2076 to begin with

[peak escarp]

they didn't mention the crisis in their origins

[peak escarp]

because Soldier 76

[stiff zephyr]

American tricentennial ig

[tough charm]

I just told myself this

[ruby ridge]

And in lifeweavers backstory we saw his family in a fancy vishkar place at like a young age

[hushed jetty]

i think it was more bc the story was once said to take place "60 years into the future" and since the game came out in 2016. math

[spark spruce]

eyy this birthday lore, i understand so much about myself now 😛

i play a lot of lucio/baptiste/sigma, and theyre all march babies. they spoke to me on a personal level ig

[woven jewel]

Cool people

[rare trail]

echo age confirmed is cool

[woven jewel]

Wait Birthdays are out!?

[rare trail]

yea

[woven jewel]

I thought it was just new age updates

Lemme see the November babies

I bet Ashe is there

[rare trail]

ashe is october

[peak escarp]

Ashe is Oct 1

[woven jewel]

TY

DARN

Close

Both snipers lol

I do enjoy them occasionally

Of course Mercy is May 13th

[rare trail]

why of course?

[woven jewel]

Idk, I got certain feelings with that date

Mercy kinda fits it

[rare trail]

junkrat on feb 29th is pretty fire

[woven jewel]

Yooo

Also F August

[woven jewel]

Should this be pinned?

Do we have any idea how the birthdays were chosen?

I don't think it's by zodiac personalities

[steady topaz]

true

[lethal steppe]

How is kirko 21

[rare trail]

she was born 21 years ago

[lethal steppe]

Just lore wise though with how old genji and hanzo were its just- off

[peak escarp]

done

[rare trail]

only a few images from her origin are kinda "retconned"

[peak escarp]

yeah they messed up with Kiriko

but they fixed Zenyatta

he used to be 20, now he's 33

[woven jewel]

ty

[dusty rapids]

So today I learned that I share a birthday with one of the ow heroes

(not one of the ones I play sadly)

But I do come within a few days of my main so we'll take it

[golden oak]

I won’t accept the fact Moira isn’t a Scorpio

[peak escarp]

why not

[golden oak]

She fits with the sign imo

[twilit patrol]

I can't believe they added characters birthday

[peak escarp]

astrology is made up

[steady topaz]

BRUHHHH

i have the same birthday as mei

😭

[golden oak]

Of course but they’re archetypes
Which often characters are based on

[spark spruce]

I share a birthday with Baptiste. 😄 I do play him a decent amount, not as much as I play Lucio tho (who is also a March baby, it counts :P) I also play a decent amount of Sigma. March babies just speak to me 😛

[hollow tinsel]

The fact that ana is Jan 1 and sombra Dec 31 is funny 🤣

[rugged igloo]

attention lorehounds: does anyone know if genji started training with Zen before or after the "Dragons" cinematic?

[peak escarp]

before

[hushed jetty]

canon birthdays is sick

[golden oak]

They opened a new can of worms with those ages confirmed

[hushed jetty]

does it include years?

[golden oak]

Ram younger than zen

[quick grail]

how the hel kiriko is 21, my god whit the developers

sojourn is full of gray hair at 47?

illari 18, pfff, nobody thinked well this

[random jasper]

bro reaper older than torb is kinda crazy

[rare trail]

her hair isnt real

[quick grail]

i dont remember reaper being so old, i could swear he was soldier age

[rare trail]

theyre only two years apart

[quick grail]

proof

[random jasper]

moira is way older than i thought too tbh

[quick grail]

but saying he is 60 and not 50 something feels weird

[peak escarp]

what's wrong with Illari being 18?

[quick grail]

doesnt looks or sounds like a 18 years old, and i dont know, i personally dont like the idea of taking dva spot as the younger cast member

[rare trail]

orisa and echo are technically younger than dva but yeah

[quick grail]

robots dont count at all

their age is irrelevant for me

[rugged igloo]

Bastions birthday unknown kek

[peak escarp]

Illari's age is fine

[rugged igloo]

Bastion mains are about to be mad

[rare trail]

kiris is a little young

[peak escarp]

Kiriko's age is fine too, but they can't say she trained with the Shimadas unless they make her older

[rare trail]

orisas age confuses me

[peak escarp]

Sojourn should be older because if she's 47, then she was 19 when the omnic crisis broke out, and when the omnic crisis broke out she had a twin sister who had a 5 year old daughter

[quick grail]

i dont know why impress me so much that a large amount of the cast is so old and they keep being soldiers, yeah yeah they are super soldiers, they live in the future, life expentancy may be higher, modern medicine blabla, but still, soldier with 58 looks so done with life when in real life there are 70 years olf people that looks like 40, and they act like they life is over already

ana keeps talking about being old when in the 2070 she should be only in the middle of her life

[rare trail]

what?

ana is like 62

[quick grail]

but is the future

[rare trail]

so?

[peak escarp]

62 isn't that old

my dad just turned 62

[rare trail]

middle aged is more like your 40s i thought

[quick grail]

in the future the 60 should be the new 40

[rare trail]

we dont know how life expectancy changed

[quick grail]

if in ow universe 2070 still have an habitable planet earth then i can believe life expectancy is 100

but at barely 60 years old soldier and anna act like they are 80

[golden oak]

They’ve been through a lot

[quick grail]

soldier is a super soldier, he have super healing, he survived a point blank shotgun shoot from reaper in one comic, at 50 something

[golden oak]

Besides, only Ana wants to retire, Jack doesn’t feel like stopping

[quick grail]

there is a lot of voice lines saying how he is old, ana just have more

all the old characters at 60 should be retired when in real life or at least in mexico the age to retire is 68, and that is only for people who started to work before the 97, if you were born after, well forget it, you will never retire

[golden oak]

Soldiers retire earlier than regular people

[quick grail]

torjbon is an engineer technichally, not a soldier

which for some reason is a field agent

[rare trail]

he is retired though iirc?

[golden oak]

Torb just takes care of his family now, yeah

[quick grail]

since i started playing ow i was always bothered how in the future at 50 something soldier, anna and rein look so old, i just never got the chance or place to talk about it

ana should look like an older sister for pharah, soldier should be like henry cavil

[golden oak]

They’re 60 or pushing 60

[steady topaz]

i have the same birthday as mei 💀

hell nawwwww 💀💀💀

[peak escarp]

it's not that far in the future

only around 60 years

[steady topaz]

also junkrat being born on february 29 is crazy

[peak escarp]

suits him

[quick grail]

you have to admit kiriko shouldnt be 21

[peak escarp]

yes

[golden oak]

I don’t share birthday with anyone

[peak escarp]

but untill the writers fix that, she is

I'm more troubled by Sojourn's age

[quick grail]

ah yeah, that thing too

[steady topaz]

how old is sojourn?

[quick grail]

and junker queen, havent noticed, how she is 31?

[peak escarp]

Junkrat's birthday proves that OW is not set in 2076
because if OW1 was 2076 (when Junkrat was 25), he would have been born in 2051 - but 2051 isn't a leap year
but 2052 and 2056 are

so the current year in Overwatch is probably either 2079 or 2083

[quick grail]

or maybe like kiriko age, developers just didnt think on that

[peak escarp]

what's wrong with JQ being 31?

[merry mason]

Seems just a bit too young for a ruler

[quick grail]

didnt junker queen have like 10 years being queen?

[peak escarp]

its not like she was elected

[quick grail]

so she won the throne at 21?

[peak escarp]

yes

[golden oak]

Seems like they didn’t count those 9 years for Mei

[peak escarp]

her origin story says she "fought the world since seventeen"

so beating Howl at 21 isn't unbelievable

[golden oak]

Mei is actually 42 right

[quick grail]

doesnt fell right the ages of ow2 characters, something is odd

would be nice if some characters share birthday, adds nothing to the lore more than being a coincidence but could happen in a big group

[peak escarp]

it's a 15% chance that 38 people don't share a birthday

which isn't that uncommon

[quick grail]

with the exception of november all months have 3 or 4 characters having birthdays, yeah, that wasnt random at all

[golden oak]

What would be BOB’s age

[peak escarp]

of course it's not random

the writers chose those days

[quick grail]

of course, thats why the birthday are so well distributed

[golden oak]

If they chose them, why isn’t Ashe a Scorpio

Genji is somehow

[quick grail]

only brigitte and torjbon have 1 day of difference in their birthday, and what a coincidence, they are family

[rare trail]

bob would probably be like 30ish

[quick grail]

the other days have a considerable separation of days, the date will have no relevance at all, make a program that drops random dates to make it more realistic

[rare trail]

he was made pre crisis right?

[quick grail]

wasnt bob a buttler for ashe family since always

[rare trail]

yea

[hushed jetty]

all of the pre-crisis omnics are gonna be 30 ish i think

[golden oak]

Ashe is over 40 tho

[rare trail]

yeah?

im not sure about deadlock rebels but in her origin bob first appears when she looks like shes in high school

wait her last name is ashe not her first name??

[peak escarp]

correct

[golden oak]

Imagine if they called her Lizzie

[mental gale]

I thought it was her middle name, just formatted weird 😭

[vapid tusk]

Cassidy is a last name as well 🙂

I hate when discord changes my emoticon to an emoji

[merry token]

God, even when it was Jesse most people called him mcree

[vapid tusk]

Cuz that was his in-game hero name lol

I wonder what it’d look like if anyone without a special hero name had one

[merry token]

Like Ana?

[peak escarp]

Soldier 76's full name is John Francis Morrison

[hushed jetty]

his name isnt even jack 😭

[steady topaz]

ITS NOT?

thats crazy

[peak escarp]

"Jack" is a nickname

[hushed harbor]

She’s 39

[merry token]

41

[hushed harbor]

WHAAAAATTTT

last I checked she was 39 😭😭😭

She’s old as hellll

Oh god ashe is gonna be 42 this year

[peak escarp]

2 years have passed since OW1

[hushed harbor]

Understandable.

I hope they don’t change hero’s appearance since they age 😭

[peak escarp]

they have changed slightly from OW1

Moira has more grey hair

[hushed harbor]

I mean Ashe will age like fine wine

[desert yacht]

does sojourn know that jack is alive

she says "you need someone like jack" at the end of liberation and she doesnt sound too surprised when cass responds with "jack morrison is off chasing ghosts, he isn't coming back"

[peak escarp]

she knew Jack pretty well, him being alive wouldn't shock her

but someone (probably Mercy, since they've been in contact) likely told her

[shadow marsh]

Could be the detrimental result of her self-experiment.

Since her Ow2 design purple arm is sleeveless now

[timid eagle]

So, with the new ages revealed, there's a two year time skip from the events of OW1 to OW2?

Never mind, someone had already addressed it. There is a two year time skip.

Anyway, why isn't Kiriko 27-30?

Because her being 21 doesn't make much sense given that Genji and Hanzo are 37 and 40 respectively.

[keen summit]

Did they readd

Re add ages

Damn

[keen summit]

So say if kiriko was about 5 around when they trained genji was 21, like its so odd

[timid eagle]

Tell me about it. And all they need to do is make a small fix to make her 27-30.

Because it's literally this right now:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/360769918578458640/1149616856357937182/s9y3skts3xmb1.png

[keen summit]

Ofcourse!

This makes sense!

[keen summit]

B-but then shes not "relatable young independant woman"

[timid eagle]

They already have DVa, Brigitte, and Illari for that. Let Kiriko be that badass aunt that rides a motorcycle.

[keen summit]

But kiriko anime shonen protag

[timid eagle]

Or they can make her 28. It's still twenties, appeasing the ageist weenies who don't want her to be "old". It's close enough to Genji and Hanzo's respective ages to make the story work, as it puts her in the backstory illustrations in a believable manner at 5-7, while Genji was 14-16 and Hanzo being 17-19.

Kiriko as a badass with fox ninja powers is a good vibe. Clinging to 21, like they need her to be forever young, is just silly.

[keen summit]

it feels like well a shonen protag

and that they cant lower genji age cuz...

it also would make it odd

[timid eagle]

Or they just adjust her age to 28. You can have an older Shonen Protagonist. Look at Kaiju No. 8.

[keen summit]

well yes obv

also sidenote

how the hell will illari fit into the story

i like her backstory but i see no way of her being involved, i hope next hero is atleast connected to some heroes again

as lw had well connection to sym and thats it, then illari to nobody

[timid eagle]

As far as the story missions are concerned, something tells me not all the cast will be featured in the main narrative. The Junkers (Junker Queen, Roadhog, Junkrat, and Wrecking Ball) come to mind.

It's going to mostly focus on Overwatch, Null Sector, and Talon.

[keen summit]

the junkers could tho, rama would rightfully dislike junkers

and i wouldnt put it past them to join the fight JUST to kill omnics

but like rama attacking new junk city which was MEANT for omnics, their home etc would make sense, but not for the time being

[timid eagle]

Well, I guess we have to wait and see.

[keen summit]

illari i just dont know how theyd make it work

like tying her into the bigger story

im hoping for mauga next hero tho

i want next hero to be big as in hype and not like illari who was shown SUPER late

[timid eagle]

For the next chunk of missions, we are going to see a focus on Talon, if that last cinematic of Sombra and Widowmaker tracking down Zen is anything to go by.

As for Mauga, there was an interaction with Sombra and Baptiste where she warns him (in a scared tone) that Mauga is all "Hey, Baptiste. Remember when you tried to burn me alive in that explosion? Good times."

[keen summit]

new one?

never heard that

[timid eagle]

It was the last cutscene after the Ironclad mission.

[keen summit]

i meant

the interaction

“Sombra… How is he?”
“Eager to see you again. Be careful.”

was in ow1

[timid eagle]

It was, but we at least know that he isn't happy with their last encounter.

[keen summit]

however

was that after the explosion or before

do we know?

[timid eagle]

After.

It was after the explosion, as the interaction was added long after Baptiste's short story that featured Mauga was his introduction.

[keen summit]

well baptiste already said in his story that "knowing him, he probally survived"

it was also before sigma, sigma was orignally going to be Mauga

but well the kit was too big brain

for a psycho thrill of the battle guy like mauga

[timid eagle]

In the end, it was the right call to put Mauga on the backburner to have Sigma take his place. He's one of my favourite tank heroes, both in gameplay and lore.

[keen summit]

the biggest hint we have to mauga is the posters, there was a peru poster (illari) and a Samoa poster where mauga is likely from

[timid eagle]

Along with Orisa's new Epic Skin.

[keen summit]

true alot of skins have hinted at themes

[keen summit]

but yeah i like it too but its kinda obvious that they dont know what to do with him

[timid eagle]

Talon Heavy Unit, with an ultimate that gives Mauga an adrenalin rush that makes him go unga bunga.

[keen summit]

would love to see him ingame tho, would be HUGE reveal

and im pretty sure s8, the tank season, is close to blizzcon

so when better to announce a fan fav hero candidate than blizzcon

[timid eagle]

Yeah, Mauga being revealed before or at BlizzCon would make the most sense.

[keen summit]

then playable and trailer on blizzcon

ez

but PLEASE BLIZZ

build it up

i dont want another lw or illari reveal

we saw illari, a few days before

it wasnt pre established hero etc

we got origin story after she dropped

it made us have no connection or any idea of her let alone hype

new hero if not established needs time to build hype, to make you care

pre established heroes like doomfist need less, cuz there is hype for them already.

[echo parrot]

DMs open

[spare fox]

I don't think we're going to get a new hero at this year's Blizzcon like we normally have in the past unless they change up how they're formatting seasons or their hero release pattern

Season 8 will start early-mid December when we get a new hero so I don't think they'll reveal one at Blizzcon and then not release until December

[shadow marsh]

The Illari situation happened because of the leaks. As a punishment they didn't fully reveal her until Invasion Update is released. Usually we get hero trailer first before they show the next season trailer

[viscid flame]

If next hero isn't Mauga, than I am almost certain he'll be a hero unveiled at Blizzcon

Is it true Sojourn's backstory has been messed up by this birthday change?

[spare fox]

not "messed up" exactly, it would just mean her sister had her daughter, Bonnie (Sojourn's niece) at the age of 14. The book said she was young when she had her, before finishing her degree, but I think it would have been noted if she had been that young

Sojourn's twin sister, that is

she should be aged up by about 5-10 years imo

[viscid flame]

I saw this argument:
"the birthday reveals also really messes up sojourn’s backstory. the supposed year the omnic crisis starts, 2046, states that sojourn was 23/24 but sojourn being revealed as 47 means that she’d be 17 at the time — and her twin sister, valentine, on this date is said to have a five year old daughter, sojourn’s niece — meaning her twin sister had her daughter at twelve years old? that isn’t even mentioning sojourn having been in the canadian primary reserves at 16 and somehow having enough time to finish university afterwards the reserves yet before the crisis?"

[spare fox]

I think they need to age up both Sojourn and Kiriko by 5-10 years to make their stories actually make sense
There's no reason for them to be that young

it's been less than 24 hours since it was posted, I think they'll make adjustments soon-ish since so many fans are pointing it out

[viscid flame]

I agree, even if they decanonize and replace the artwork in Kiriko's origin story, and even if they change some of the interaction lines she has with the Shimadas to better fit it, there's still just some really odd inconsistencies, that can't be explained otherwise

[rare trail]

the old speculated age of 24 worked a lot better i think

[viscid flame]

24-26 would be great

[rare trail]

like genji isnt in his 20s here

how many years ago did genji get "killed" by hanzo?

[sullen beacon]

if genji is 27 currently then he wouldve bene killed by hanzo when genji was 17

[spare fox]

they should just bite the bullet and make her 27-30

[ruby ridge]

They wouldent do that

I mean

28 I think sounds good for kiriko

But I don’t think they wanna make her 30+

Im biased since I HATE the letter three

It’s so disgusting

“Thir”Ty

Disgusting

[rare trail]

genji is 37

[lavish vessel]

Yeah I think they just need to age up kirijo and sojourn so there’s no more problems

[sullen beacon]

so he wouldve been killed when he was 27

but wait kiriko is 21??

[sullen beacon]

it wouldnt make sense for her mom to be so worried then

[rare trail]

i think 24 would make sense

[lavish vessel]

Yeah that’s a good point actually

[rare trail]

whats wrong with sojs age?

[icy stump]

Anyone wanna bring up how mercy is older than pharah by 5 years?

[ruby ridge]

It means she became a military commander At 18 or less

And hee sister

Gave birth at 12-14

[rare trail]

why does that matter?

[sullen beacon]

didnt mercy work with ana while ana was young?

[icy stump]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/648211630005682179/1149694810479931515/IMG_0029.jpg

5 year age gap btw

[rare trail]

yea

[ruby ridge]

The devs clarified this

[rare trail]

pharah is 12 mercy is 17 in that photo

[sullen beacon]

where is mercy in there

[ruby ridge]

They said pharah only came to overwatxh in extremely small occasions, and mercy didn’t actively work in overwatch and only came as a university student

[ruby ridge]

Cassidy was also 17 in that photo

[icy stump]

But

[sullen beacon]

i thought that was brig wtf

[icy stump]

They also

Doesn’t make sense in the lore??

[ruby ridge]

Wdym?

[rare trail]

in as you are its confirmed that pharah likes mercy iirc but we dont know if mercy shares those feelings

[icy stump]

There’s no way cass was in ow when he was 17 cause he was in his 20s when he was in deadlock gang was he not?

[ruby ridge]

I was gonna say it dosent make sense but it does

Cassidy was like 14 during deadlock

[sullen beacon]

the hell

[ruby ridge]

Ashe started doing crime after graduating/becoming 18

[rare trail]

cassidy got busted 23 years ago

[ruby ridge]

And she met Cassidy first

[rare trail]

im not sure if this is ow1 or ow2 time

[sullen beacon]

yeah it makes no sense for a 14 year old to be in a gang like the deadlock gang like theres no way ashe wouldve accepted him in

[ruby ridge]

So yes Cassidy joined ow at like 17

[ruby ridge]

I think Cassidy looked older, and I’m pretty sure he became orphaned by the crisis

Leading him to crime

[rare trail]

wait im confused

ashe is two years older than cass right?

[ruby ridge]

Ashe and Cassidy created the group together

[ruby ridge]

Yes

Nvm I got it wrong I forgot

Cass would be like

16

I thought Ashe was 4 years older

[rare trail]

when was cass born?

uh july 31st

so then when deadlock started he shouldve just had his 16th or 17th birthday?

probably 16th though

wait thats still kidna confusing because if hes 17 in the overwatch photo

[ruby ridge]

Idk, it’s kinda hard to figure out because they never made a extremely long timeline

[rare trail]

ashe should be 17 here and cass should be 15 or 16

so then i guess deadlock was busted early in the year?

pre july at least

if hes 17 in that photo

[rare trail]

so this photo must've been taken 23 years ago from january-july 30th

er wait

maybe from january to may?

because mercy is born on may 13th

[peak escarp]

Cassidy was 15 when he and Ashe (who was 17) started Deadlock

so it ran for around 2 years before getting busted by Overwatch

[hard iron]

I think we can all agree, overwatch is better without lore lol

[fresh rock]

?

[peak escarp]

lol no

if Overwatch didn't have lore I wouldn't care about it

[icy stump]

Wait wait wait. Hold on. Wait . how in the FUCK is pharah older than Winston???????

[peak escarp]

why is that surprising?

[twilit patrol]

There’s no a single game better without lore

[distant sparrow]

what do i get for beating all of the missions on legendary

[limpid agate]

Most animals have life expectancies shorter than humans.

Especially monkeys

They usually die in their 30s to 40s

[limpid agate]

A title

[rare trail]

winston might live longer given hammond has an extended lifespan

[peak escarp]

Winston is a genetically enhance gorilla, I would expect his lifespan to be closer to a human's

[distant sparrow]

how do i claim it or is it given upon completion

[fresh rock]

It was given upon completion.

[distant sparrow]

ok ty

[boreal glen]

cause oh i think that ive found myself a cheerleader

she is always right there when i need her

and dey sey

do you need me

do you think im pretty

[fresh rock]

!!loreonly

[twilit nacelle]

This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[fresh rock]

Sorry Doomfist 🤷‍♂️

[boreal glen]

do it again and i find you

do i make you feel like cheating

i said no cause

oh i think that ive found myself a cheerleader

thank you for letting me finish

[boreal glen]

i will send you flowers in the near future

[distant sparrow]

essential doomfist lore

[fresh rock]

!!loreonly

[twilit nacelle]

This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[distant sparrow]

but the real doomfist himself said it

[twilit patrol]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[distant sparrow]

fine

[ruby ridge]

Getting banned speedrun

[quick grail]

pharah and mercy age gap is again a topic, we konw the ages of pharah and mercy since 2016 and suddenkly everyone acts surprised, they think pharah and mercy ages got retconed, pharah get older than it should, mercy got younger, they think mercy age should be like ana, jesus, people grossed fo the idea a 5 years gap is too much for a couple, that is too hard to understant the idea pharah and mercy meet in ow when both were minors seems like a crime

[hollow tinsel]

😭😭😭😭😭

[worthy rose]

uh

[worthy rose]

okay?

Anyway

Still confused on how Hanzo, Kiriko, and Genji were all kids at the same time despite a like 20 yr age gap between the brothers and Kiriko

[rare trail]

yeah the new age doesnt make much sense

kiri was younger but not that much younger

[worn latch]

New lifeweaver voicelines just dropped. who are the martins'?

[peak escarp]

they're the founders of the Atlantic Arcology

and the group called the Collective

[worn latch]

Ohh okay coolzies thanks

I've been looking for info about the Atlantic Archology but there's literally nothing

[gentle nova]

So when did dva go from 17 to 21

[rare trail]

she didnt

she went from 19 to 21

[gentle nova]

Ain't no way sombra is 32

[rare trail]

why wouldnt she be?

[peak escarp]

she is

[red apex]

Kiriko's 21?!

[gentle nova]

Then how did she grow up with Hanzo and genji....

[worn latch]

She aged because the lore continues from when she was released until now.

[gentle nova]

Genji would've been 16 when kiriko was born

[worn latch]

I'm still stuck on illari being 18

That's not right

[rare trail]

yea kiri age doesnt make sense

[gentle nova]

She looks 27 lol

[rare trail]

illari age is fine

[worn latch]

She sounds so much older to me

[red apex]

That chart is so odd zen was 20

[gentle nova]

Wait so how is Hammond 16 if Winston is 31? Did he arrive to the lunar colony later?

[red apex]

The ages are wrong

[gentle nova]

Brig is older than kiriko? This is so messed up

[worn latch]

Overwatch devs all should die. Let me redo this please guys

Foams at mouth

[rare trail]

?

what chart?

[gentle nova]

Not the devs, the upper management that forced them to release this content

[worn latch]

Mb

[red apex]

Scroll up

[gentle nova]

I mean I guess to line up better with the lore

[worn latch]

Istg they don't know anything about the lore they just based the ages on popular ships

Makes me so mad

[rare trail]

that chart doesnt say zen is 20

and zen isnt 20

hes 33

[gentle nova]

Since none of the omniums have been operational

How could zen be 20

Well, not operational during the time zen would have to be born to be 20

[red apex]

no, thats why i said the chart is somewhat wrong

[peak escarp]

they left the moon 14 years ago

[rare trail]

?

zenyatta is 33

its on the official blizz website

the chart is correct

the age i mean not the chart

[gentle nova]

Ok and then did Hammond show up on the colony 16 years after Winston?

[peak escarp]

no

Hammond left the moon with him

[gentle nova]

Bc Winston was NOT 16yrs old in that cinematic

[peak escarp]

he was 2 years old

[red apex]

Does anyone know the time period between ow1 and ow2?

[peak escarp]

2 years

[gentle nova]

Right so then Hammond showed up 12 years after Winston

[peak escarp]

yes

wait

[gentle nova]

I kinda wanna know the way they pitched adding a baby hamster to a rocket lol

[peak escarp]

Winston was 15 when Hammond was born

[peak escarp]

he wasn't a baby

[gentle nova]

U right I was off by 1

[gentle nova]

Yes but hamsters don't age at the same rate gorillas do lmao

[rare trail]

ok?

[peak escarp]

Hamsters are considered "adults" at 5 weeks old

[gentle nova]

This was them leaving

[red apex]

I'm not understanding, cause then that means the ages we got in ow 1 are inaccurate

[peak escarp]

and normally only live 2 years

[gentle nova]

How do u think he got to the moon

[gentle nova]

Yes

Hammond is an scp

[rare trail]

yea

[peak escarp]

Hammond is genetically enhanced to have a longer lifespan

[gentle nova]

Hammond is a little rat and I will eat him for dinner

[merry mason]

Did zens age get retconned? I remember him being around 21.

[peak escarp]

yes

it was 20

33 makes a lot more sense

not all retcons are bad

[golden oak]

She couldn’t be a playable hero if she was 17

[gentle nova]

Couldn't be an overwatch character, all of them are in danger

[golden oak]

Funny how kiriko broke the “no magic” rule and then messed up the timeline with her age reveal

She just keeps messing with lore

[gentle nova]

Lol

That's her real super power

Suzu so powerful it destroyed the timeline

[golden oak]

I wonder how long he can live

[peak escarp]

she didn't mess up the timeline

everything around her is fine

[golden oak]

well She definitely wasn’t around when shimada brothers were kids since they’re almost 20 years older than her

[peak escarp]

she just either needs to be older or they need to take out the reference to her being trained with the Shimadas

[golden oak]

I feel like just making her older would be better

[peak escarp]

yeah

because they're not going to change her origin trailer

[golden oak]

Exactly

[golden oak]

Winston can live as long as humans I suppose, maybe even longer

Btw, was moira somehow behind the experiments they were doing at lunar colony? Maybe funding them?

[peak escarp]

no

the lunar colony was around before the crisis, so 30+ years

Moira wasn't a scientist until her later years

[golden oak]

Oh

So how long was moira a scientist

[hushed jetty]

illari's age is such a jumpscare but i suppose it makes sense. that ceremony did seem like a sort of coming of age thing

[golden oak]

Maybe she seems mature for her age because the trauma messed her up and she just lost that innocence

[hushed jetty]

yeah most likely, i cant imagine killing an entire fucking room of people after just turning 18

[golden oak]

And losing everything and everyone probably forced her to grow up quick

[peak escarp]

and what if that ceremony takes place on the summer solstice, the day when the sun is out the longest

which in the southern hemisphere would be December 21

her birthday

[hushed jetty]

oh my goddddddddd

terrible birthday gift

[peak escarp]

y'all need jesus

please do

[red apex]

Her backstory is one of the saddest, but If i say probably the most saddest, its very controversial

[peak escarp]

it is pretty tragic

[woven jewel]

I do like Mei and Illari sympathizing each other

[shadow marsh]

Not important but curious, has it been stated in lore that Moira is a dog person?

[warm scaffold]

Is sigma a dog person?

[ruby ridge]

Erm

I don’t think they’ve ever stated who’s dog who’s cat

Besides

Sojourn and Brigitte

Also I’m pretty sure moira’s dosent care/like animals as she experiments on them

[peak escarp]

no but there's a spray for her called Dog Person

[ruby ridge]

Oh yeah I can see moira going to a daycare with huge pit balls and tell the disobedient children “he likes mauling children”

[worthy rose]

I'm lore accurate doomfist

[golden oak]

Is echo the only one without a redesign for overwatch 2 (I mean ow2 skin) since Mina Liao is dead and I guess no one else would tinker with echo

[merry mason]

Yes I agree

[merry mason]

I think it’s more because the design was relatively new compared to the others

[golden oak]

No but think about it, Orisa has Efi, Bastion has Torb
Echo has no one

[viscid flame]

Illari, Sigma, and Reaper easily the most miserable people in the setting by a tremendous margin

[worthy rose]

He honestly looks like he would have a lizard or a poison dark frog or something x.x

[worthy rose]

And roadhog. He likes pachamari 😂

[ruby ridge]

Yes

[zealous kite]

she was always 19

[hollow tinsel]

Is this the new confirmed Ages? Should we pin?

[worthy rose]

hello yall i've got a question so im rn playing in middle eastern servers while i want to play in eu servers
(they're all toxic) and also my ping in eu servers is stable thats also why so if anyone has something that i can do to get rid of middle eastern servers that would be helpful

[rare trail]

yes these ages are on the official blizz website

[hollow tinsel]

Awesome

[peak escarp]

shout out to Overwatch Cavalry for making a useful graphic

[twilit patrol]

Thanks Overwatch Cavalry

[merry token]

I’m pretty sure it was because she was meant to be released in ow2 but they decided to release her earlier

[merry token]

That’s honestly wild to think that Dva isn’t the youngest human anymore lol

[noble hull]

W my birthday is the same as Dva

[rare trail]

i wonder if in heroes ascendant how they'll explain orisas rework

i assume its gonna be made canon but i wonder if it will be an upgrade or if theyll just retcon

[ruby ridge]

If j was illari I would honestly just quit

Imagine killing a entire sub species of humanity

And then destroying the machine that allowed that sub species to gain their true flowers

Powers

And then your the last of the last

Like god damn sister you flopped so hard

[hardy creek]

lore moment

[hollow tinsel]

Real

[gritty wave]

Okay imma be real though, I’m so excited for the upcoming short story compilation bc my favorite characters get mentioned so yay

[trail scarab]

What do yall think the worst thing moira did?

[exotic root]

Prolly widow

[trail scarab]

Tru

[rare trail]

what she did to reaper is pretty bad

widow like wanted to

[trail scarab]

Indeed