Yeah he definitely isn't dumb or uneducated. He might be self-educated but he is very intelligent (just not socially)
#lore-discussion
spare fox
void drum
nope, junkertown is younger than junkrat
junkrat was 4 years old when australia went to shit
keen summit
Tbf tho, its likely this is getting added onto his story retroatively in new junk city
golden oak
Omnic crisis was 30 year ago, Junkrat is 25
keen summit
Omnic crisis was 30 year ago, Junkrat is 25
The omnium was destroyed later than the crisis
void drum
The omnium was destroyed later than the crisis
fr
keen summit
The omnium got attacked cuz the goverment wanted to give omnics a place to live and junkers didnt agree
golden oak
You mean during crisis?
spare fox
Right, it was after the Aus gov gifted the outback land to the omnics
keen summit
You mean during crisis?
Nope after
void drum
just because it started doesnt mean australia got radiated instantly
keen summit
Goverment wanted to give omnics a place to live, junkers didnt agree and destroyed the omnium in protest
void drum
Goverment wanted to give omnics a place to live, junkers didnt agree and destroy...
then the omnium did a woopsie and went boom radiating everything around it
void drum
Isn’t outback hard place to live for humans
i dunno, maybe because its radiated???
golden oak
i dunno, maybe because its radiated???
Even without radiation
There’s no water and no vegetation
ruby ridge
Or born into it?
void drum
junkrat and hog has black nails, this is a symptom of some radiation sickness
void drum
There’s no water and no vegetation
there technically is water near junkertown
queen had to get it some way to give it to the king
ruby ridge
The outback was giving to the omnics as a peace treaty but the people who lived there didn’t want to get replaced
void drum
and for food, they're likely getting supplies from companies that would profit even on the poorest, since they do have instant soup restaurants if i recall
void drum
ngl sounds tasty 😋
golden oak
junkrat and hog has black nails, this is a symptom of some radiation sickness
Yeah or they just paint them since junkertown citizens usually have punk outfits
Could be dirt also
keen summit
Isn’t outback hard place to live for humans
Well yeah but also makes it hard to manage for government
Theyre basically the "we wanna do our own thing" people
spare fox
It's a lawless society
void drum
bro they live in a radiated wasteland
spare fox
Ruled by tyrannical monarchs
golden oak
I don’t think radiation makes your nails black
spare fox
Yes it does
golden oak
It's a lawless society
There is laws
spare fox
Yeah it also happens in some chemo patients
A lot of Hiroshima/Nagasaki survivors had blackened nails due to radiation poisoning
golden oak
Why’s that? Necrosis?
void drum
Yeah it also happens in some chemo patients
yeah, that's because radiation just snowballs into cancer
spare fox
Yeah radiation messes up the cells, I'm not entirely sure about the actual medical part
void drum
Some cancer patients undergo radiotherapy
point is, radiation makes your nails black because radiation = fast way to get cancer
spare fox
Yeah they're focusing on surviving, I doubt they're keeping up manicures
golden oak
They’re decorating their clothes with spikes and studs, queen has dyed her hair
void drum
They’re decorating their clothes with spikes and studs, queen has dyed her hair
on every skin of junkrats, he has black nails, i don't think it's manicure
cuz not every skin he has is punk styled
and also
golden oak
Ok but my point is junkertown citizens dress up like punks
void drum
radiation is very much around a very big area of australia
spare fox
Yeah plus back in the day when someone asked about their painted nails, he replied darkly, "it's cute that you think it's nail polish"
^Jeff that is
golden oak
Cuz they said they’re focusing on surviving which isn’t true because they have mech fights and do tattoos, piercings and other stuff unnecessary for survival
So?
keen summit
Tbf
keen summit
Cuz they said they’re focusing on surviving which isn’t true because they have m...
I think the reason is that they dont have proper healthcare
spare fox
Specifically Roadhog and Junkrat, who are exhiled
keen summit
Keep in mind, jq asks if she has to eat vegetables
They have limited knowledge about health
Same with junk trying to use radioactive dirt
void drum
Same with junk trying to use radioactive dirt
he says that his doctor cured him of pie woe mania
so yeah
keen summit
So i doubt radioactive treatment is on their priorities
golden oak
Keep in mind voice lines aren’t fully canon
void drum
tbh i'd want a junker support added, to expand on the junkertown lore
void drum
tbh i'd want a junker support added, to expand on the junkertown lore
- we only lack a support role from the junkers
void drum
nah
keen summit
Keep in mind voice lines aren’t fully canon
No, theyre not canon in that they havent necessarilly really talked, not that tmwhat they say is false.
keen summit
Who would that be tho
Junks doctor
keen summit
No, theyre not canon in that they havent necessarilly really talked, not that tm...
This was explained in the valentines thing
void drum
i have an idea for the kit, wanna hear it out
not quite about the design, but i'd like some of the characteristics of uncle ruckus from boondocks
void drum
not quite about the design, but i'd like some of the characteristics of uncle ru...
we dont have someone who represents deformities in overwatch fr
keen summit
They arent canon as in they didnt hace that convi, but if they would talk about the subject, this is what they would say and the content is true
void drum
Junks doctor<:HatInSmug:585536108813615123>
or someone new
just for the sake of expanding junkertown lore
void drum
I think 3 (arguably 4) junkers is enough
omnics have 5 heroes
7 if you count orisa and echo
golden oak
omnics have 5 heroes
They’re all different
keen summit
omnics have 5 heroes
Tbh, omnics is just a race
void drum
Tbh, omnics is just a race
yea, but at least they got complete squad
keen summit
Like saying "we have this many black characters" you cant say orisa and rama are close in mindset
void drum
you can play omnic only team
golden oak
Junkers is just one group, omnics are all over the world
void drum
Junkers is just one group, omnics are all over the world
yea, still would like a junker support tho
keen summit
Id like instead a person like bap for junkers, a ex junker
void drum
Id like instead a person like bap for junkers, a ex junker
tbh want to hear out my kit idea for the junker support
keen summit
Like a person who realized how fucked the society was there
So we have a person who could poiny out the fucked stuff from it etc
keen summit
tbh want to hear out my kit idea for the junker support
Sure but i will point out problems if i see any
golden oak
Junkrat and Roadhog are both technically ex junkers
keen summit
Yeah but theyre still in outback living junker lifestyle
And still follow their mindset
golden oak
They’re wastelanders now I guess
keen summit
I want like an Aussie who went away and might be against them
That aussie could then work with talon and rama mainly for well, junkers literally stopping a thing rama wanted, omnics having a place
golden oak
That would be only if Rama succeeded with capturing all omnics
He’s targeting places where omnics live for now
Btw, I wonder if he’s gonna attack cities like Numbani where omnics have equal rights
keen summit
I mean if the prominent factioms vishkar and null sector have thd least heroes
Amd shambali
Like junkers have quite a few while not being tjat important in grand scheme of things
keen summit
Btw, I wonder if he’s gonna attack cities like Numbani where omnics have equal r...
I doubt it, thats for talon 0robs
golden oak
How is Vishkar prominent
spare fox
Keep in mind that right now, Ramattra is attacking and subjegating omnics because he doesn't like how passive they are against humans. At this point he's not attacking humans (yet)
golden oak
Other than Sanjay being In talon
spare fox
Vishkar profits off of destruction
keen summit
They also have their own tab in pve
For the main story their more important than junkers
golden oak
They also have their own tab in pve
Maybe future mission
spare fox
There are no omnics in junkertown though
golden oak
I do think rama will attack junkera tho
That is only if he succeeds his liberation first
spare fox
He's not invading bc of omnic-racism, he's taking over the minds of omnics right now (likely to make them attack later)
golden oak
He’s got priorities
void drum
Sure but i will point out problems if i see any
he definitely has to go along with junkers theme of being agressive and fighting up close, therefore comboing with other junker heroes, so definitely a shotgun of sorts is a must, instead of dealing flat out damage tho
it will deal little and then melt the healthbar fast, kinda like junker queen or ana, healing would be performed with the same gun shooting out a projectile (lookin kinda like ball made out of needles) that heals for a wopping 100 hp but it takes time to charge, about 3-3.5 seconds
the healing ability could be locking someone in one place but patching them up to full hp if the raget is below 60% of their healthbar, the person getting cured will be able to shoot btw to protect the support, it's basically a mega healthpack but can heal tanks to full hp too
the support ability would be a magnet projectile that makes targets go faster in the direction of the support and slower in opposing direction, will also kinda pull you into the support if you don't move at all, it's to help this support get kills and the other junkers to get kills too
i havent decided for an ult tho
golden oak
He's not invading bc of omnic-racism, he's taking over the minds of omnics right...
Yeah and for now junkers don’t care about the conflict, if they were attack they would most likely help in taking down null sector
keen summit
There are no omnics in junkertown though
Yeah, but junkers already stopped an effort for giving omnics a home once, theyre a threat to his dream. And what better place to let omnics live than the wasteland
golden oak
So attacking junkers now wouldn’t be best for null sector
spare fox
Yeah, but junkers already stopped an effort for giving omnics a home once, theyr...
But that's not what Ramattra is doing (right now at least)
keen summit
So attacking junkers now wouldn’t be best for null sector
Yeah, but i think its defo a place he wants to attack just cause what theyve done
void drum
he definitely has to go along with junkers theme of being agressive and fighting...
@keen summit what u think?
spare fox
It's not about defeating humans right now, he's subjegating omnics, probably to rise up against human tyranny
He doesn't want to wipe out humans
keen summit
he definitely has to go along with junkers theme of being agressive and fighting...
Well we know how much people love being locked in place
The charge is bit much as bap and ana can do 100 faster, lw too
The magnet is great concept but moght fit tank better
keen summit
It's not about defeating humans right now, he's subjegating omnics, probably to ...
I know, i know his mindset. Its more that rama also believes in justice. He knows that if he tries to libererate australia the junkers are a huge threat
void drum
Well we know how much people love being locked in place
The charge is bit much ...
i guess the charge could get reduced then, and the locking in place is only if someone backs up behind the wall to get healed, the healing would be quite fast and could be stopped any time too, if another support helps, you could get someone patched up fast
especially the tank
keen summit
Charging heals is a terrible concept
The charge needs to be worth it. Before lw got outhealed by bap and ana while he had to charge it
Charging heals can work, but it needs to be worth it
And ideally not take away from other things too mucg
golden oak
Yeah but it’s still easier to keep someone alive if you don’t have to charge your heals
keen summit
Yeah. The thing there is it should be worth it
Make it so u get a choice
Charge ur heal for good burst or click it for consistent
void drum
tbh maybe the gun could shoot out needles that heal 10 hp each and you can heal rapidly, or get a burst that heals 100
is it good now?
golden oak
tbh maybe the gun could shoot out needles that heal 10 hp each and you can heal ...
2 key binds
How ur gonna damage
void drum
2 key binds
not really 2 key binds
keen summit
2 key binds
Not necessarilly
Click or hold for a second
Click for quick
Hold for charge
Make the error margin half a second
void drum
thats what i was boutta say
golden oak
So like LW?
void drum
So like LW?
kinda but better since you can heal more rapidly than him
golden oak
Clicking with LW isn’t efficient cuz you’ll have to reload fast
void drum
if a needle would heal 10 hp each and burst does 100 hp, then the clip would be about 20 needles to heal, aka the perfect treshold to fully heal a squishy
and since you can spamclick, you can heal ppl faster than lw
golden oak
Healing is the least fun part about supports and introducing charge means you’re gonna spend more time doing it
void drum
Healing is the least fun part about supports and introducing charge means you’re...
not really
you can either go for bursts or for fast healing
golden oak
No one would go for a burst then
void drum
no? people would use burst time to time, good times to use burst is when someone backed up to get healed
or to save someone from dying
golden oak
If burst and spray would take the same amount of ammo, then spraying is better
keen summit
Healing is the least fun part about supports and introducing charge means you’re...
Its oddly satisfying with illari ngl
void drum
If burst and spray would take the same amount of ammo, then spraying is better
spraying and burst take different situations
golden oak
Its oddly satisfying with illari ngl
Because you have a turret to do it for you and you only have to beam from time to time
void drum
burst have its situations where its good and so does spray
both are good
spray is to basically negate the hitscan rapid shots, burst is good against projectiles the likes of junkrat or pharah
since they have a delay
not entirely healing the damage but just enough to negate like 90% of it
golden oak
No cuz projectiles like pharah or Junkrat do so much damage your teammate is really likely to die if they get hit by something else so it’s better to spray them down because holding a burst would be a waste of time
Unless you’d charge your heals before someone gets hurt but that’s just healbotting
You’d have to be a healbot to use the burst
void drum
No cuz projectiles like pharah or Junkrat do so much damage your teammate is rea...
then im all ears for how you'd make the burst work
so it has its uses
golden oak
then im all ears for how you'd make the burst work
I wouldn’t make another charged heal
golden oak
You said it’s charged before
golden oak
So what did you mean? Like moira spray?
void drum
like hogs alt shot but does healing instead of damage
golden oak
And it would use all ammo instantly?
void drum
And it would use all ammo instantly?
not all, half of the clip, perhaps it could use a quarter and heal 100 perhaps despite having less needles
basically 4 burst shots of 100 hp or 20 spray shots for 10 hp each
so burst shots have a purpose, cuz making em logical kinda makes them worse i guess
golden oak
Ok, we shouldn’t talk about it here I just realised
keen summit
Because you have a turret to do it for you and you only have to beam from time t...
The beam is satisfying for me
golden oak
The beam is satisfying for me
You use up your beam and then you have to wait to heal again, so you don’t spend much time healing yourself
That’s why it’s enjoyable because you don’t spend much time doing it
keen summit
I dont use up the beam generally tho
I can easily explain why its fun, its fast so its fun seeing the bar go up rapidlt
vapid tusk
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limpid agate
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marble tulip
Is roadhog a human?
rare trail
yeah
peak escarp
Is roadhog a human?
yes
marble tulip
Is there a reason he wears a mask?
peak escarp
he has radiation poisoning
mellow stratus
Is roadhog a human?
Yes but he's big
merry token
Quite a few characters are comically large (in general) for design n stuff
shadow marsh
Roadhog's massive body is the result of the wasteland radiation
He was once a leader but now he has nothing to lose
zenith mango
Why does roadhog call Ana nana
peak escarp
because she's an old woman
golden oak
Also Roadhog is a criminal so that could be another reason for hiding his face
golden oak
Roadhog's massive body is the result of the wasteland radiation
Is it
golden oak
He was once a leader but now he has nothing to lose
Of what? ALF?
shadow marsh
Also Roadhog is a criminal so that could be another reason for hiding his face
It's funny because in his mugshot picture the police still let him wear the mask
spare fox
"You get him to take it off"
"No, YOU get him to take it off!"
golden oak
It's funny because in his mugshot picture the police still let him wear the mask
It’s because blizzard doesn’t want to reveal his face
spare fox
yeah kind of weird, even Jeff Kaplan said they probably won't reveal his face
golden oak
I guess it makes him more scary if you never get to see his face
And he’s supposed to be scary looking
Like in slasher horror movies, a lot of them wear masks
golden oak
yeah kind of weird, even Jeff Kaplan said they probably won't reveal his face
Well tbh if he doesn’t work there anymore, they might retcon that and show his face some time
spare fox
yeah he did say "probably" they likely didn't have plans at that time to do so
golden oak
I’m curious
Also, so far every human overwatch character has been attractive, I wonder if they were to face reveal him, would they make him attractive under that mask
hushed jetty
i feel like people would find a way to make gim attractive even if the devs didnt actively try to make him pretty lol
golden oak
Junkrat I would agree with ow1 skin but they made him look nice in ow2 skin
limber sable
Buff doom
golden oak
And Torb isn’t ugly
golden oak
"attractive" is subjective
also - Junkrat, Torb, etc
Most are objectively attractive
spare fox
and I mean I have too many friends that ship roadrat, they revel in both making the junkers stupidly ugly but insisting they're hot so go figure that
golden oak
They is who
spare fox
junkrat and roadhog
golden oak
Like I said, for ow1 that was true
But ow2 made Junkrat look more attractive and added junker queen which is very attractive
golden oak
Yeah, he’s got some skin care finally
shadow marsh
He looks more like a demolition expert now
golden oak
Also Ow2 Roadhog got a sick mohawk
Also his clothes are nicer, he’s got a leather jacket that looks brand new
They’re making them look more appealing
spare fox
they got money after their worldwide heist
golden oak
Yeah that could explain it
maiden hound
Honestly I feel like blizzard stopped taking reaper so seriously and I'm kinda happy for it
Like in ow1 he felt like they were trying to make him actually seems cool and not meant to be goofy but he was so edgy he became goofy, in ow2 he feels like the devs intentionally lightened his personality and made him a bit goofier and making a bit more fun of his edgyness
marble tulip
What is roadhogs heal then? Is it a type of like medicine for radiation?
keen viper
Like in ow1 he felt like they were trying to make him actually seems cool and no...
I haven't seen him get goofy at all
unless you mean with the cookies emote and that one specific dancing emote
peak escarp
the cookies emote is a reference to the stop motion animation put out a few years ago
twilit patrol
https://youtu.be/lcRkaouAP9U
I’m hungry now
golden oak
I haven't seen him get goofy at all
Maybe they meant voice lines
golden oak
What is roadhogs heal then? Is it a type of like medicine for radiation?
Yeah it’s hogdrogen
golden oak
Soldier has robotic legs???
lavish vessel
He doesn’t
twilit patrol
No
golden oak
Thought so, saw a TikTok saying he does and I was like “HUH”
rare trail
lore tiktoks are uhhh questionable sometimes
golden oak
I think they might have seen this skin and get confused
But at the same time, this skin exists, which I just remembered
stone warren
echo's fat forehead has pve inside it
merry mason
Don’t be stupid
merry token
lore tiktoks are uhhh questionable sometimes
Me when people on tiktok post headcanons as lore
peak escarp
far too many headcanons have been masquerading as lore
like Roadhog's daughter, or Cassidy being latino/native
rare trail
ive heard about the roadhog daughter headcanon but not the cass one
where did the roadhog daughter headcanon come from?
peak escarp
because he likes cute things
and a big guy like him can't possibly like cute things for his own sake
merry token
ive heard about the roadhog daughter headcanon but not the cass one
Afaik it’s mostly on tumblr
spare fox
there's a fan comic going around with him and a daughter and I think it's based off of that? idk why everyone just assumes it's canon
either that or it's just a popular headcanon
hushed jetty
i think its just one of those headcanons that is so popular people forget it isnt canon
fickle seal
Have seen people shipping junkrat and roadhog🤮
hollow tinsel
Have seen people shipping junkrat and roadhog🤮
quick grail
junker queen was a lot better character when she was justs an unseen character part of the lore of junker town and not a fleshed hero, she was this imponent queen and now is just a dumb junker
spare fox
I kind of agree
She's so different between her in-game character and the Wastelander cinematic
I get it, time, radiation from the omnium in Junkertown, power corrupts etc etc
But it just doesn't follow
grand yoke
spare fox
Or at least consistent
quick grail
anad her clothes were better, she had this badass cape
and wasnt so big
and a third junker charcter was too much
fresh rock
like Roadhog's daughter, or Cassidy being latino/native
Never heard the second one before. TIHI.
woven jewel
I mean it's Texas ig
ebon oriole
Wrecking Ball was the third Junker
he isnt a junker, even his intro dev log said he isnt a junker
he landed in junkertown but he is not technically a junker
limpid agate
He is now
They changed the story
He's Junkerqueen's bodyguard
They've changed a lot of things about the story
Junkertown was built out of an omnium before. Now, its New Junk City that's built out of the omnium, and Junkertown is just Junkertown
Magic didn't exist. Now it does.
The timeline also shifted some
peak escarp
New Junk City is still Junkertown, according to all the signs on the map
limpid agate
Thats not what they said in the devstream
peak escarp
what did they say in the devstream?
limpid agate
That it was a different city
peak escarp
which dev stream was this?
ruby ridge
Interesting
limpid agate
peak escarp
they didn't say it was a different city, just "we know what the town looks like, but what about the city?"
limpid agate
New Junk City, the heart of the Junker’s domain in Australia, goes beyond the gates of Junkertown, where you’ll explore new battle arenas and the salvaged Omnium that the Junkers call home
peak escarp
beyond the gates of Junkertown
as in, farther into the city that Junkertown is part of
limpid agate
That's not how I interpret it
hushed granite
Who yall think is the worst faction?
Of the ones listed in the info section for pve
limpid agate
Or Surrey vs Vancouver
Surrey isn't part of Vancouver
But its part of the Greater Vancouver Area
peak escarp
despite how you interpret it, the sinage is pretty clear that New Junk City is considered part of Junkertown
peak escarp
But its part of the Greater Vancouver Area
yeah that's what I mean
limpid agate
Mississauga != Toronto, despite having Toronto signage
Its a different city entirely
But it is part of the Greater Toronto Area
Based on the wording, this seems similar
peak escarp
so Junkertown (map) and New Junk City (map) are both part of Junkertown (city)
limpid agate
They used to make blogs to go into more detail about the maps
Or dev updates
This confusion wouldnt be happening if they gave more than 2 sentences of story outside the game...
hushed granite
Idk? In terms of death?
In terms of ideals ig?
void vale
widow has a voice line in game that says
"how dare you show you're face after what happened in monty cristi" to baptiste
what happened in monty cristi?
peak escarp
that's when Baptiste ran away from Talon
void vale
ah ok thanks
worthy rose
so how was Mauga's relationship with Baptiste?
hushed jetty
they were certainly close
we know they were close friends and its been mildly implied they might have been lovers but dont quote me on that second bit
peak escarp
that's headcanon
they were friends
actually, not even sure they were friends
they knew each other, and Mauga liked Baptiste as a person
hushed jetty
i was more referring to that One tweet by that One writer that i couldnt paraphrase rn if i tried
quick grail
oh yeah and new junk city is another waste, why another junker map, another junker character? why two maps on the same place? what a waste, we dont have a lot of new maps, give us more diversity of places, why not make a new zeland map or a map set on an island in oceania for roadhog
peak escarp
because maps aren't for heroes, they're for developing the world
and Junkertown is a location the devs like
quick grail
i hate the aesthetic, is ok for one map but not two. and in early ow characters kinda have home stages, was not a written rule but was very common every hero have a map set i their country
hushed jetty
a lot of characters dont have a map directly related to them
and there are several maps with no direct connections to specific characters
quick grail
in early ow almost every character have a home stage, almost
peak escarp
out of the launch heroes... Bastion, D.Va, Junkrat, Lucio, Mei, Mercy, Pharah, Reaper, Reinhardt, Roadhog, Soldier, Symmetra, Torbjorn, Winston, Zarya did not have "home maps"
hushed jetty
early ow was also 8 years ago so
quick grail
we have like 30 italy maps and no italian character lol
peak escarp
which is most of the launch heroes
woven jewel
we have like 30 italy maps and no italian character lol
Yo I'd be so down
quick grail
out of the launch heroes... Bastion, D.Va, Junkrat, Lucio, Mei, Mercy, Pharah, R...
i said early ow, not launch ow, junkertown was relased early for junk and roadhog, germany (im not going to try to spell eichewalde) was added early for reinhard and maybe bastion if you want, pharah map was anubis, reaper map is hollywood, he is from los angeles, winston is the moon, zarya is volskaya, all of those maps added early
peak escarp
Reaper might be from LA but he has no connection to the Hollywood map
also I forgot about Volskaya
quick grail
is his city, thast enough for me
woven jewel
Where is Midtown?
hushed jetty
new york
peak escarp
New York
woven jewel
Ty
cedar stump
as a south cali person saying LA is Hollywood should be a crime
quick grail
i want more maps set in big cities, not fictional places, i like what the developers do with the aesthetic
of real world places
hushed jetty
as another south cali person it basically is
same county
woven jewel
Dorado can kinda be 76 or Sombra's home map due to cinematic or birth country
cedar stump
THEY ARE DIFFERENT PLACES!!
quick grail
ugh, dorado, the map set in mexico but based on, guess where? another italian town
peak escarp
Reyes lived in Echo Park
woven jewel
THEY ARE DIFFERENT PLACES!!
Oh is it like Washington DC in West Virginia?
woven jewel
ugh, dorado, the map set in mexico but based on, guess where? another italian to...
pogissimo
quick grail
dorado look nothing like mexico, just barelly the architecture looks mexican because mexico have european architecture, and then add some piñatas and tada, mexico
hushed jetty
Reyes lived in Echo Park
i guess i can see that. ive been there its pretty
quick grail
havana looks like havana, colonial buildings and a fort
and of curse a rum factory
because ow is street fighter and loves to use national stereotypes
woven jewel
The music was funny
I vibe with it
But part of it was too similar to somethin else
peak escarp
maps that aren't based on a hero's home location or tied to a hero in some way ... Circut Royal, Blizzard World, Midtown, Ilios, Lijiang Tower, Colosseo, Esperanca, Paris, Malevento, Petra
quick grail
uuuhhh the chinese map may count as home stage of the chinese character? just saying
paris could be widow even if she have her mansion
peak escarp
Mei is not from there, she's from Xian
woven jewel
Paris isn't related to Widow?
quick grail
whatever same country
peak escarp
that's like saying Route 66 counts for Soldier because it's the same country
quick grail
could be
quick grail
uuhh hello, there is anubis, the place we assume pharah born and was working for years
quick grail
which is in cairo?
peak escarp
we don't know where in Egypt it is
quick grail
cairo is like the center of the overwatch universe, everything happened there
peak escarp
what
quick grail
we have no reasons to not think is not on cairo
quick grail
for years everything in ow was linked to cairo
peak escarp
such as?
quick grail
ana and pharah backstory life and work
soldier was with ana in cairo where they fought reaper
anubis the ai that created the omnic crisis is on cairo
pharah saved cairo from anubis
mercy was on cairo
mcree went to cairo for pharah
peak escarp
it's natural that things involving the two Egyptian heroes would take place in Egypt
quick grail
not any hero but someone as important as ana
peak escarp
Ana isn't that important
quick grail
sure the second in command wasnt important
peak escarp
not that important to the story
compared to Tracer, Winston, Doomfist, Ramattra, etc.
quick grail
at this point the only important character is winston, sojourn and brigitte, even tracer was sidelined, and soldier, the second face of ow too
tracer appears a lot in the pve but the story is not her pov, is winston
peak escarp
Brigitte?
quick grail
sojourn steals the spotlight in toronot
and birigitte appears in two missions where she is important
a lot of focus is put on her, only character with an exclusive skin for the pve
peak escarp
Sojourn had one too
quick grail
yeah, the character nobody likes
meanwhile fan favourites have not much to do
i think everyone would preffer soldier be the focus instead of sojourn
in the second mission
peak escarp
I wouldn't
quick grail
you are the exception that confirms the rule
hushed jetty
and birigitte appears in two missions where she is important
tbf there are only 3 so far and there will be quite a few more so it doesnt make much sense to say that now
and soldier, despite being one of the main faces of ow, is kinda irrelevant right now lol
quick grail
yes, 3 missions, they could do a better job to give the characters a more fair distribution so everyone can do something
peak escarp
not every hero is going to be part of the main story
quick grail
the toronto mission could be focused only in mcree team and sojourn, the other characters appear on one of the other two missions
peak escarp
so you'd rather have fewer options on who to play for that mission?
quick grail
im not even going to pay for that scam, but for the little story we got and the possible more story will never get the distribution could be a lot better to give everyoen a chance to do something, forget the gameplay, i mean two missions only have 5 characters to choose already, or blizzard can make an all heroes mode
the missions have few option of everything anyway
hushed jetty
i was about to say "if it was only mcree's team + sojourn then there'd be no tank" but i forgot zarya exists it seems
and dva
quick grail
there was no need for the characters of the rio mission to be there, they already have their plot, leave others have their own
ruby ridge
i think everyone would preffer soldier be the focus instead of sojourn
How would soldier make sense??
Soldier isn’t interested in Ow
Plus whags the point of new heroes if only the “big” heroes get focused
quick grail
How would soldier make sense??
crazy idea, make a plot, a story mission where he changes his mind
ruby ridge
The point of PVE was that a bunch of other heroes got spotlight, Lucio, sojourn, the Swedish and German
peak escarp
crazy idea, make a plot, a story mission where he changes his mind
that would be terrible writing
quick grail
i think the point was give a full campaign
peak escarp
we are getting a full campaign, just not all at once
hushed jetty
"the swedish and german" 😭
ruby ridge
There’s new heroes and lore to added
quick grail
we are getting a full campaign, just not all at once
no, we are not
ruby ridge
"the swedish and german" 😭
shhh i forgot their plural
merry token
The Charlie reaction video 😭😭😭
ruby ridge
I like the PVE so far, they’ve helped characters with not so much lore get more, Lucio, sojourn, zenyatta in the next mission
hushed jetty
they didnt cancel the entire pve. it's just not gonna be as big and in-depth as they originally said
peak escarp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmY2RH08IZ8
the hero missions and talent trees were cancelled, not the campaign
hushed jetty
they just removed some features, not entire pieces of the campaign
quick grail
the campaign was cancelle, they were going to launch a full real campaign, not the scam we got
peak escarp
incorrect
ruby ridge
stop trusting everything you see online
peak escarp
you need to learn what "scam" means
quick grail
stop trusting everything you see online
so i cant trust official blizzard sources? well no, i cant they lie in everything
hushed jetty
okay what do you mean by "cancelled"
and by "full real campaign"
ruby ridge
If you actually read official blizzard sources we wouldent have this conversation
quick grail
you need to learn what "scam" means
sell the scraps and leftovers of something made in 2019 with less features than the demo shown or the free events from ow1 sounds like a scam
ruby ridge
We aren’t getting a story mode like injustice, they’re releasing the whole campaign but seperateb
ruby ridge
sell the scraps and leftovers of something made in 2019 with less features than ...
a completely optional choice to buy is not a scam
quick grail
If you actually read official blizzard sources we wouldent have this conversatio...
jeff, this little guy went on stage and promised a full campaign
ruby ridge
Please refer to what I said like three messages earlier
peak escarp
a scam would be lying about what you were paying for - they were very clear what the Invasion bundle would contain
ruby ridge
We’re getting a full campaign, not all at once tho
quick grail
a completely optional choice to buy is not a scam
of courese you can chose to not be part of a scam, that doesnt make it less a scam, like people who sell clrum dioxide as cure for the covid, we all know was a scam and we decide not to buy it
ruby ridge
That is certainly a comparison
Difference is that the PVE isn’t a scam, you know what you are buying
quick grail
a scam would be lying about what you were paying for - they were very clear what...
lying for 4 years
ruby ridge
They don’t force you to buy it
quick grail
they force you to buy coins if you want the missions which are only worth $5 but want you to pay 15 and not option to use the coins in game to buy it, scam
ruby ridge
They said what happened with skill trees and hero missions, if you didn’t wanna buy the PVE anymore then you didn’t, but they made it clear beforehand it didn’t have it
quick grail
and that makes you fell good?
hushed jetty
lying for 4 years
this kinda implies they knew for 4 years that they wouldnt be giving us what they teased which is a weird implication
peak escarp
this channel is for lore discussion, if you want to discuss the PvE missions please move to #1108392656997978294
hushed jetty
i didnt even know that channel existed
quick grail
this kinda implies they knew for 4 years that they wouldnt be giving us what the...
they knew for one and a half year they will not relase the thing and lied about it and use it on the marketing, thats a scam
ruby ridge
I wonder how strong biolight can be
hushed jetty
probably Very, considering vishkar wants lifeweaver's head on a platter (metaphorically) for it
ruby ridge
We know hardlight can be used to create skyscrapers extremely fast
Or a axe the size of one
Like symettra said
woven jewel
Surely a foolish young samurai warrior can wield it
worthy rose
Why has reaper been subjected to this agony?
twilit patrol
the campaign was cancelle, they were going to launch a full real campaign, not t...
No
worthy rose
why does ana amari someday want a mission in hawaii?
shadow marsh
Why has reaper been subjected to this agony?
The agony he suffers right now is the consequences of his actions
shadow marsh
why does ana amari someday want a mission in hawaii?
To be fair everyone deserves a retirement
ruby ridge
why does ana amari someday want a mission in hawaii?
Take a wild guess
zenith mango
Why did Reyes join talon
spare fox
We don't know for sure but it's likely his deteriorating condition from the super soldier program lead him to Moira which then lead him to Talon after OW told her to take a hike
lavish vessel
His deteriorating condition isn’t from the super soldier program, it’s from moira herself
golden oak
What did soldier program even do? Jack is literally just a guy
rare trail
hes strong and fast ig
viscid flame
Why did Reyes join talon
The Overwatch short story, Code of Vengeance explains exactly why
https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/media/stories/code-of-violence/
lavish vessel
What did soldier program even do? Jack is literally just a guy
Just basically a buffed up soldier, think of someone like captain America
merry mason
He can regenerate too it’s in a short story
worthy rose
Theory: Winton likes peanut butter
mellow stratus
Theory: Winton likes peanut butter
Nooooooo really ?
twilit patrol
I didn't know that, that's incredible.
spare fox
I think you may have just solved OW2
solemn salmon
theory: mr beast is actually wrecking ball
rare trail
is brig the oldest of torbs kids?
tired tartan
Are we counting turrets ?
timid obsidian
Theory: Winton likes peanut butter
i think he likes dipping bananas into peanut butter and then eating them as well
not completely sure
merry token
is brig the oldest of torbs kids?
No, the Christmas image shows Reinhardt with Torbjorn’s grandkids and Torbjorn’s youngest daughter Brigitte
zenith mango
The Overwatch short story, Code of Vengeance explains exactly why
https://overwa...
I read that but didn’t get an answer
peak escarp
why what
ruby ridge
I read that but didn’t get an answer
“Some people stay in talon because they have nowhere else to go”
Sombra
Talking to reaper
Referring to him
peak escarp
Reaper is with Talon because Moira brought him there when he was dying
he stays with Talon because their resources are useful for his goals
ruby ridge
Talking about this
It makes me wonder if moira was already working for talon during her blackwatch days
Or if she got fired first and then for some reason came back when the hq exploded to grab reyes?
zenith mango
In roadhogs comic someone says that “the queen didn’t forget what you did” to roadhog
What did roadhog do
peak escarp
they never said
mellow stratus
Probably something wrong
zenith mango
And in the comic why were him and junkrat in junkertown if they were banned?
peak escarp
that was before they got kicked out
zenith mango
Oh
What’s they get kicked iut for
Was it for “blowing up her summer shack, or the beat down at the bar!?!?”?
peak escarp
yes
mellow stratus
How ?
peak escarp
she can, she just has them supressed
and even if she doesn't feel the emotion, she remembers it
mellow stratus
oh ok
zenith mango
She killed him because she was brainwashed right?
zenith mango
Is she “unbrainwashed” now and that’s why she feels remorse?
peak escarp
no
zenith mango
Why does she feel remorse then
peak escarp
because she loved him
mellow stratus
she'd better not wake up
zenith mango
But killed him anyway?
peak escarp
After several unsuccessful attempts to eliminate Gérard, Talon decided to change its focus to his wife. In the dead of night, Talon operatives kidnapped Amélie and subjected her to an intense program of neural reconditioning, in effect creating a sleeper agent. Gerard devoted Overwatch’s every resource to recovering his bride, and it wasn’t long before the operation produced results. His agents saved Amélie, and a medical and psychological evaluation after the kidnapping found her to be apparently no worse for wear. Their official assessment proved fatally inaccurate two weeks later . . . when they discovered she had killed Gérard in his sleep.
she didn't have a choice
zenith mango
Does reaper want his old life back?
mellow stratus
hum
peak escarp
he misses his family, but I don't know if he wants that life back
zenith mango
Last thing
All this is from the Christmas comic
And from that there’s a thing with hanzo
What’s that about
mellow stratus
I can't imagine his son finding out that Reaper is his father
zenith mango
Was this before or after Genji confronted him
peak escarp
after
zenith mango
Do you thing we will get more hanzo/Genji
peak escarp
yes, eventually
zenith mango
Is it confirmed
peak escarp
there's a Hanzo short story in the collection next year
mellow stratus
maybe they will meet again in Tokyo
peak escarp
Genji won't be in it
mellow stratus
because I think the Null Sector will attack Tokyo ?
peak escarp
it's Hanzo and Kiriko
mellow stratus
Genji won't be in it
but Overwatch will go to Tokyo ?
peak escarp
no
twilit patrol
good luck for them to stop them
Who ?
zenith mango
In old soldiers, Jack knew the reaper was Gabriel but Ana didn’t?
twilit patrol
In old soldiers, Jack knew the reaper was Gabriel but Ana didn’t?
Yes
mellow stratus
Who ?
kiriko and hanzo
how will they stop null sector at Tokyo if Overwatch won't help ?
rare trail
I’m really excited for the Ana jack and sombra short story
waxen viper
rare trail
merry token
Also did we ever find out how cass lost his arm
No
merry token
how will they stop null sector at Tokyo if Overwatch won't help ?
I mean, they are both technically magic 
mellow stratus
Wrong
rare trail
wdym not hanzo?
peak escarp
they were wrong
Hanzo and Genji's dragons are the same kind of magic as Kiriko's fox
mellow stratus
but is it real magic or technological magic ?
peak escarp
what is technological magic?
zenith mango
Are we going to get a deadlock revels part 2
rare trail
we are getting Ashe and bob pre crisis in heroes ascendant
zenith mango
“Mohale Mashigo lends fresh perspective to Ana and Jack’s relationship as they weave through a broken Istanbul to meet with an informant, one who claims to have knowledge of what brought down Overwatch all those years ago”. Don’t we already know?
peak escarp
we don't know the specifics
only that corruption and Talon moles brought it down from within
rare trail
and the informant is probably sombra based off the art on the cover so she might know something more
merry token
they said dragons aren't magic
That was just a theory for the dragons not being magic cause of hardlight or smth
zenith mango
only that corruption and Talon moles brought it down from within
I thought it was because of black watch
peak escarp
that's what started the investigation
jaunty marten
what?
ember crest
winton or doom fist
mellow stratus
Gorilla strenght > human strenght
solemn nebula
doom fist on top the lore is not lore accurate
golden oak
Is meteor strike canon
peak escarp
yes
golden oak
Wild
peak escarp
it's just a big jump and slam down
worthy rose
Zen or Ramattra for season 7 mythic skin
honest trail
Lucio's dad is alive right?
peak escarp
yes
pearl crypt
not for long
peak escarp
what
teal echo
Remember that part in the lore when jack Morrison said “I carry my burdens alone” and canceled PVE?
twilit patrol
not for long
Why ?
distant sparrow
Remember that part in the lore when jack Morrison said “I carry my burdens alone...
it was so emotional when reaper said "DIE, DIE, DIE!" and killed off skill trees
teal echo
it was so emotional when reaper said "DIE, DIE, DIE!" and killed off skill trees
Dude do you remember when doomfist charged up his fist and said “When we launched Overwatch in 2016, we quickly started talking about what that next iteration could be,” he wrote. “Work began on the PvE portion of the game and we steadily continued shifting more and more of the team to work on those features”
And then shattered everyones hearts?
twilit patrol
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peak escarp
!!shitposting @teal echo
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peak escarp
PvE was not cancelled
verbal vigil
slightly dumb question but who is the most powerful ow2 character according to lore?
I think sigma
peak escarp
yes, Sigma is probably the strongest, if he were to use the full scope of his powers
verbal vigil
and also, there is a slight twist
I might be completely wrong saying this
but according to the theory of relativity, gravity is not REALLY a force due to a bend in space and time
so sigma controls space and time to control gravity?
also light is considered to be the fastest moving entity
nothing except for blackholes can rival that speed
so sigma can alter light
so in theory, he is able to time travel too
peak escarp
in theory
peak escarp
I don't think I'd go that far
verbal vigil
haha true
peak escarp
theoretical time travel and actual time travel are two seperate things
peak escarp
Tracer doesn't even time travel, she just rewinds/fast forwards her own movement
spare fox
There is a thing is physics where the more the gravitational force, the faster time passes buuut I don't think OW storytelling is going in that direction...
I think it's just a "he lifts things up" kind of thing
golden oak
Tracer doesn't even time travel, she just rewinds/fast forwards her own movement
I would say she rewinds the state and position on her body
Like we see in “alive” cinematic
She recalled after being poisoned from venom mine
Wouldn’t be surprised if she aged slower than others because every time she’s using recall her body is rewinded back those few seconds
golden oak
I know
Just saying, if we were to see an old tracer, she probably wouldn’t look as old as she is
chilly gazelle
twilit patrol
golden oak
Yeah, makes sense
limber sable
Why is doom so weak
rare trail
in game isnt really discussion for this channel and in lore hes pretty strong
fresh rock
Why is doom so weak
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worthy rose
Okay, so, sigma. His origin story is very vague and makes me want to know more. It seems, somehow, that whatever went wrong with his experiment left him with the constant melody in his head and his madness. Or did it put the melody in his head, and that’s what drove him mad? I’m not sure. I’m curious to hear what you guys think.
peak escarp
the melody is a hallucination caused by his brain damage
it could be interpreted as the musica universalis, or music of the spheres - the harmony by which the universe operates
worthy rose
The spheres part is interesting, considering sigma has his orbs and such.
But honestly that would make a lot of sense. The melody seems to give sigma increased knowledge, but that totally could just be the fact that time has progressed and he learned more lol
golden oak
But honestly that would make a lot of sense. The melody seems to give sigma incr...
He was an astrophysicist before
He knows a lot about physics and universe because he was a scientist in that field
worthy rose
No no I know, but his abilities and power are totally enhanced now, no?
verbal vigil
he has such great lore but blizzard never bothered expanding it
he is never in any cinematics
worthy rose
I know it’s aggravating
peak escarp
his lore isn't that great
verbal vigil
his lore isn't that great
he has the most mysterious origin story
With little to no hints outside of the accident
there is not much speculation about him as he literally never appears anywhere outside of his origin story
he has no cinematic
Not sure but its either that blizzard doesnt care about the character
or they want him to remain mysterious
how often do you come across a person who controls gravity, hears a mysterious melody, is brainwashed, potentially harnessed the power of a blackhole, working as an astronomer?
if blizzard included him at all in any cinematic, it would prove to boost sigma lore discussion
ruby ridge
Not sure but its either that blizzard doesnt care about the character
Sigma was made as a quick replacement to mauga
So I’m pretty sure they never had much planned for him
spare fox
Sigma was made as a quick replacement to mauga
This is true but it doesn't mean they haven't written anything for him or he never will be important. That's the thing about ongoing narrative writing.
golden oak
Sigma was made as a quick replacement to mauga
That’s weird cuz sigma’s kit doesn’t fit a heavy assault unit
Unless they had other kit for him, but then why would they scrap him?
spare fox
Lore-wise they wanted to release mauga, but mauga had a heavy assault kit and they wanted a shield kit
golden oak
Oh
spare fox
Rather than reworking mauga they came up with and released sigma with his shield and backburnered mauga for the time being
ruby ridge
They wanted another talon tank
golden oak
I feel like mauga will be the next hero since in Antarctic map next to Peru poster there’s Samoa poster
And mauga is Samoan
golden oak
They wanted another talon tank
Doom wasn’t a tank back then, sigma was the first talon tank
ruby ridge
Doom wasn’t a tank back then, sigma was the first talon tank
??
Doom was a tank
The hero release was Ana, sombra, Orisa, doom, Moira, and then I lose track
Then it’s brig, wrecking ball, Ashe
Then baptiste sigma
Echo
golden oak
Doom became a tank in ow2
ruby ridge
Oh wait yeah sorry I forgot
golden oak
I feel like mauga will be the next hero since in Antarctic map next to Peru post...
And they already said next 2 heroes will be tanks
ruby ridge
And they already said next 2 heroes will be tanks
Next 2?
golden oak
Yeah I think so
ruby ridge
Hope next hero after those 2 are dps then
Dps has the most heroes but I don’t think a. Role should be abandoned for like 2 years
golden oak
Before LW release they said next two will be support and then two tanks
I think they’re trying to bring more options into tank and support because there roles have been starving for a long time
Probably making a dps hero is the easiest
Since tanks and supports are usually the ones with op abilities
ruby ridge
Yeah exactly, that’s why I kinda want a dps hero
Gives them more time to think for support and tank
And dps are the easiest anyway
So like one dps every 4-6 tank support heroes
golden oak
Can’t wait to hear Mauga and Baptiste interactions in game
golden oak
Since doomfist family owns prosthetics company
Is it possible that sojourn, genji, Cassidy and others got their prosthetics from them
peak escarp
there is not much speculation about him as he literally never appears anywhere o...
he appears in the short story Code of Violence were Reaper and Sombra (and later Widowmaker) arrive to kidnap him from a secure facility
also he wasn't brainwashed and is an astrophysicist, not an astronomer
verbal vigil
also he wasn't brainwashed and is an astrophysicist, not an astronomer
I stand corrected
gentle plover
Could Lucio be gay...
golden oak
He flirts with Dva in valentines voice lines afaik but not sure those are canon
rare trail
what voicelines?
golden oak
what voicelines?
They’re from ow1 I think
Basically Lucio says to dva that she’s his favourite song (dvas real name is Hana Song)
Btw, weird how they stomped on mercy genji ship in pve voice lines
rare trail
dva: Lucio! hows my favorite international dj?
lucio: I play a lot of music, but you're still my favorite song
peak escarp
Btw, weird how they stomped on mercy genji ship in pve voice lines
how so?
I didn't hear any lines that "stomped on" that ship
golden oak
Let me find it for you
peak escarp
you mean the one about Mercy's drawings?
golden oak
you mean the one about Mercy's drawings?
Yes
peak escarp
sounds like playful banter to me
minor garnet
Im deadass gona find you
peak escarp
!!shitposting @flat pawn
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minor garnet
keep playing wit me bro
hushed jetty
he appears in the short story Code of Violence were Reaper and Sombra (and later...
i just read code of violence—why is he just sitting therr the whoke time ignoring them completely 😭
bro is a master of mindinf his own business
peak escarp
because Sigma's mind isn't present
he's off in his own world
he's less powerful gravity god and more neurodivergent grandpa
hushed jetty
youve stolen my description of him /j
anyway i love him for being neurodivergent grandpa i just wish he was a little. cooler
tired flare
How do Moira and Ana both have access to the biotic technology? Could be that im completely overlooking smth but curious
hushed jetty
i dont think biotic technology is a particularly secret thing afaik
like baptiste uses it too in his capsules
tired flare
huh
neat
was just thinking, bc of how moira was with blackwatch while ana was with overwatch iirc?
hushed jetty
well blackwatch is a subset of overwatch
and either way i dont think its an overwatch-specific technology
golden oak
is Hanzo gay?
Possible
ruby ridge
i dont think biotic technology is a particularly secret thing afaik
Stuff like biotic energy and gravity isn’t too uncommon in ow universe
lavish vessel
he's less powerful gravity god and more neurodivergent grandpa
LMAO I love this description
daring dome
Can you guy summarise the lore just in a sentence?
peak escarp
no
wheat maple
Can you guy summarise the lore just in a sentence?
Omnic War, Human conflicts, Omnic War 2: Electric Boogaloo
quick grail
Can you guy summarise the lore just in a sentence?
the world needs heroes but nobody wants to do the job
rare trail
theres a lot of people who want to do the job
tracer
winston
cassidy
just like anyone in new overwatch
quick grail
the majority of the cast is reclutant to bring back ow, but they know the world needs heroes, just maybe not ow, even pharah who was her dream didnt want to e part of it
mercy in expanded universe materials, voice lines, short stories, dont stop saying she is against ow, then in game is pew pew you suck
lavish vessel
the majority of the cast is reclutant to bring back ow, but they know the world ...
Pharah is part of overwatch, she joined the new blood team
peak escarp
she was reluctant to do so until she got closure from her mother
slow forge
Why do I think the only way overwatch will stop null sector is by finding zenyatta
And zenyatta will speak to rammatra
opaque tundra
I will never be mentally ready for the inevitable ram/zen meeting
twilit patrol
Perhaps because they were friends
slow forge
I will never be mentally ready for the inevitable ram/zen meeting
I will for sure
slow forge
Perhaps because they were friends
They're like brothers
twilit patrol
Yeah that's what I meant
slow forge
Even though rammatra is busy with null sector he still thinks highly of zenyatta
But my question is why are they kidnapping bots
Aren't they trying to save them?
twilit patrol
For me it's simple
Ramattra doesn't want to kill omnics
He's fighting for his kind
So, there's no reason for Ram to kill them.
rare trail
maybe its for protection??
twilit patrol
Maybe
slow forge
Bro
slow forge
He's fighting for his kind
Blizzard rlly had the idea
"Let's make a robot version of malcom X"
"And the robot version of MLK :DD"
rare trail
ramattra has like killed hundreds of people through stuff like kings row uprising
twilit patrol
slow forge
ramattra has like killed hundreds of people through stuff like kings row uprisin...
Robot version of malcom X but he kills people-
I'm not gonna lie tho
Rammatra has a giant army
twilit patrol
Yes
slow forge
Of extremely hard to kill robots
rare trail
idk how "extremely hard to kill" his robots are
slow forge
True
slow forge
But I think we can all agree that null sector is a force to be reckoned with
twilit patrol
Apparently it's not so simple to kill the robots that Ramattra created
slow forge
Apparently it's not so simple to kill the robots that Ramattra created
Really?
twilit patrol
Yeah wait
rare trail
idk in zero hour genji can kill the robots with one shuriken
twilit patrol
slow forge
Oh
twilit patrol
Idk if Null Sector are more dangerous than Anubis
slow forge
Idk if Null Sector are more dangerous than Anubis
Possibly
Do u think that rammatra Is in the right or in the wrong??
twilit patrol
It's complicated
slow forge
Agreed
twilit patrol
He's in the right as long as he's fighting for his kind
slow forge
He's in the right as long as he's fighting for his kind
Yes but he's killing lots of innocent people
twilit patrol
But he is wrong when he's killing hundred of people
slow forge
And people that hate his kind
trail zephyr
he is in the right for sure
slow forge
Ok so rammatra is in the right for fighting for his kind
twilit patrol
And people that hate his kind
Yeah that's why he's killing a lots of innocent
trail zephyr
then are killing omnics and assassinating their leaders
slow forge
But he's not in the right for killing lots of people
rare trail
talon assassinated mondotta
slow forge
then are killing omnics and assassinating their leaders
Ngl
rare trail
he is working with talon
slow forge
talon assassinated mondotta
I got absolutely pissed when I saw that
twilit patrol
But you need to know one thing
Ramattra doesn't try to kill all humans in the world
But he thinks the war is the only way
slow forge
Yep
twilit patrol
But now the question is: Does the war will change anything ?
slow forge
Actually I think we all were pissed when we saw mondatta get killed
twilit patrol
Actually I think we all were pissed when we saw mondatta get killed
A little bit for me
slow forge
A little bit for me
She killed zenyattas brother-
Maybe that's why zenyatta says "what goes around, comes around" when he kills widow
twilit patrol
He knows about Mondatta ?
slow forge
He knows about Mondatta ?
Not sure
He probably did because well the news
Oh wait
I don't think zenyatta
Watches the news
He probably prefers life without electronics
peak escarp
Zenyatta knows about Mondatta's assassination
peak escarp
he talks to Symmetra about it in Stone by Stone
twilit patrol
Oh
peak escarp
Zenyatta would know what the public knows, so if the public knows it was Widowmaker, then he would know
twilit patrol
I would be surprised if the public knows it so, I might think they doesn't.
golden oak
Is Zen leading the monastery after mondatta’s death?
golden oak
Oh so that’s why he’s in suravasa
peak escarp
yes
rare trail
wheres the big image showing all of null sectors troops?
past copper
spare fox
I'm wood-level and haven't played harder than "hard" difficulty... are there new units in the harder difficulties? Or have we not seen all these yet?
Bottom pic we have, concept I haven't seen some. Plus whatever that big guy from Calling short we haven't seen yet
past copper
We just haven’t seen other units yet since these are just concept designs
timid obsidian
holyyyyyy fuck all the other designs are amazing
dont know why null sector would make a dog but it looks awesome
past copper
Anyone who wants info on Null Sector
golden oak
I wonder what the wizard lookin ones are doing
foggy jetty
dont know why null sector would make a dog but it looks awesome
Might've initially been a design for a human friendly cybernetic pet
But then null sector changed it to match a war dog design
distant sparrow
mondatta is the one in the final cinematic of the PVE right
same one as alive
so PVE happens before alive?
worthy rose
That cutscene is a flashback. PvE takes place after Mondatta’s assassination
worthy rose
The shot of ‘Alive’ in that cutscene is a flashback in itself, so it’s flashbackception
spare fox
I took it more as a series of incidents that zen was meditating on
ember crest
does reaper listen to destroy lonely?
timid obsidian
Might've initially been a design for a human friendly cybernetic pet
But then n...
Didnt null sector make completely new bots? If not it looks like a police k9 robot but i think its a null sector original
ruby ridge
nvm@someoens already explaining
ruby ridge
Didnt null sector make completely new bots? If not it looks like a police k9 rob...
Yes
The new ns bots are new
peak escarp
after their father was assassinated, Hanzo was ordered by the clan elders to get Genji to stop goofing off and help run the family... this led to a confrontation that led to a fight that left Genji nearly dead
ruby ridge
He should’ve stayed dead I hate genji
peak escarp
Overwatch had the family under surveillance, and were able to rescue Genji and save his life, although the encounter left him unable to walk
Overwatch offered to give him a cyborg body in exchange for helping to dismantle the Shimada clan, and Genji agreed
golden oak
Damn Illari really hates Moira for some reason
hushed jetty
i.imagine most people wojld dislike moira
snow mesa
What's the lore behind Widow?
distant sparrow
whats the flag 2nd to last left to right
blue background, red cross, yellow outline
distant sparrow
and it is, ty
sharp trench
Hopefully
odd meteor
<@468100015156494340> why did arthur die at the end
You bastard.
supple turtle
No swearing mate
twilit patrol
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past copper
A fair amount of the Shambali
We will probably learn more about the Shambali from Zenyatta
queen sierra
A fair amount of the Shambali
the bottom left picture is from the Uprising Origin Video
past copper
the bottom left picture is from the Uprising Origin Video
And…
It’s part of the Shambali intel
past copper
Idk i wanted to point it out :/ sorry
K
cedar granite
What do u guys think the nxt 3 missions r going tb on for pve?
peak escarp
Suravassa, Midtown and ???
spare fox
probably an escort or rescue mission with Zenyatta
S7 and S9 are supposed to get new maps so it's likely that whatever maps we get might be involved with the next mission(s)
or they could surprise us and use an old OW1 map - they did say they wanted to rework the 2CP maps
stuck mist
A fair amount of the Shambali
So the iris is an actual thing
So all omnics could have this power?
And also reminds me about sigma saying he met the iris but that might not be canon
honest spear
sir this is a Wendy's
hushed jetty
alright grandma, lets get you back to bed
hushed jetty
what
spare fox
has the Atlantic Arcology always been on the board in Midtown?
rain ferry
peak escarp
has the Atlantic Arcology always been on the board in Midtown?
yes