lore-discussion

[paper ocean]

But Illari is not, what so ever, connected to ow

[peak escarp]

...we literally just got the largest lore dump we've ever gotten

[prisma fog]

i know! i mostly mean prior to that

[peak escarp]

Illari may become connected in the future

[prisma fog]

i thought so too. one of the upcoming pve missions might explain it

[peak escarp]

when OW1 launched, Lucio, Zarya, D.Va, and Symmetra weren't connected to Overwatch in any way

but the story has progressed and now (except for Symmetra) they're connected

[steel cosmos]

isnt sym connected to lucio and lw tho

[peak escarp]

she's connected to Lifeweaver

Lucio is connected to Vishkar

[steel cosmos]

isnt sym connect to vishkar aswell

[peak escarp]

yes

[steel cosmos]

is there anyone else connected to it other than those 3

[paper ocean]

No

But im creating a character that can make Illusions of himself, and Im making him part of Vishkar (its just a made up character but still)

[nimble dagger]

Damn

Chat desd

L

[zenith mango]

do u guys think that future pve missions will be free for ppl who already paid the 15

[mellow stratus]

I think it won't be free

[zenith mango]

what ties does genji have to rialto? he says "i remember this place"

[quick grail]

this is from this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRj-GotnNaQ which by they way show us the story missions were already made and complete in 2021 and maybe before that, the new section from kings row was ready too, sojourn was made too, all of this could be relased for ow2 launch, i dont know why they waited so long

[hushed jetty]

i hope so but i very much doubt it

[quick grail]

and they have a lot of progress in the next story missions, there is a lot of footage of widowmaker in vs zenyata

[peak escarp]

no

[peak escarp]

marketing

[young igloo]

My pve quests are bugged

[quick grail]

how making us wait and not relasing on time what they promised its marketing?

[quick grail]

oh and there are some cut content not pressent in the final relase, some cutscenes, not surprised

[hushed jetty]

if i had to guess, maybe the original plan was to release all the missions at once, or at least more than 3, but future ones werent finished yet

[peak escarp]

"on time"? I didn't realize they had given us a deadline

[hushed jetty]

also yeah lmao ^

[peak escarp]

there is still more to come - those "missing" cutscenes are for future missions

what I mean by marketing is that the higher-ups in Blizzard wanted to package a bunch of things together (PvE, Flashpoint, Illari, Hero Mastery) to make a big event of it, rather than just releasing them all one by one

[quick grail]

no, see the part of the video they talk about the story, there are some cutscenes that clearly are part of toronto missions not pressent in the final game

[peak escarp]

do you know the timestamps?

[quick grail]

there are on the vide

o

if you are on phone its minute 27 or 28

but in case you wonder this image is from the video but not pressent in the final game

wait, you cant post images?

[peak escarp]

none of these scenes are in Toronto

[quick grail]

https://twitter.com/OverwatchNaeri/status/1447057764002320388 ok thats it, this image is on the video but not in the final game

[peak escarp]

it's part of a different mission

[quick grail]

the mcree ship being shoot to me seems its part of the toronto missions, if the final game the mcree team just its there, there is no cutscene of them arriving

them being attacked could be a good intro

[peak escarp]

they're flying over New York

you can see the Empire State Building in the background

[quick grail]

how you konw

i dont know man im not from usa to me its a generic city

so the next missions are talon attacking zenyata and something in new york

[quick grail]

so that sketch of the whole team on the shipp and on formation its on new york?

[peak escarp]

the buildings match

it seems like the other missions shown in 2021 are Suravasa (to rescue Zenyatta), New York, and Circuit Royal

[quick grail]

there are some clips of doomfist on monaco

[peak escarp]

yeah

talking to Max

[idle finch]

my goat max

[quick grail]

meh, its sad we already know what will happen and still not be ready soon

[twilit patrol]

[idle finch]

[quick grail]

i think ws a mistake start the story with null sector, for years talon was the main threat, they were the main villians, reaper, widowmaker, iconic characters got sidelined by ramatta

and the mistery of how a second omnic crysis startet its very obvious, its talon

[peak escarp]

I think it's better to start with Null Sector - that way we have an enemy that can be permanently dealt with while Talon is still an overarching threat for the whole franchise

[twilit patrol]

It's because of Talon if the Null Sector attacks the whole world

[quick grail]

talon have been a overwarching threat for 7 years, is time to do something with it

[twilit patrol]

But we will

I'm sure

[quick grail]

mmmmm

[twilit patrol]

I think Talon will be the endgame of the campaign

[peak escarp]

7 years for us

but in OW, the threat emerged suddenly and Null Sector is at the forefront, so they need to be dealt with first

[quick grail]

what campaing? the format of the story is far away from being a campaign

[twilit patrol]

?

[quick grail]

talong have been existing and being a threat for years, is not new

[twilit patrol]

It will be a full campaign

But not for now

[peak escarp]

a campaign is multiple missions connected by a continuous story

that's what we're getting

[quick grail]

for how long? i dont think the game survives another 7 years to have a full campaign

at the rythim they will relase the missions

[twilit patrol]

The game doesn't need a campaign to survives

[quick grail]

will be too late

[twilit patrol]

It's already a big success

[peak escarp]

we don't know how often they will release missions

we've only had one batch

[quick grail]

i didnt say it needs a campaign to survive, games dies, it happens

[twilit patrol]

?

What ?

The game isn't dead

[quick grail]

i dont say that

[idle finch]

he said games die, as in it might not survive until pve ends

[quick grail]

games have a live span, cant be eternal, someday, maybe sooner than latter ow will be in life support, not close but stop getting updates, and i dont think the story will be end by that time, specially at the rythim they are going

[peak escarp]

maybe

maybe not

[twilit patrol]

[quick grail]

i want to believe but blizzard dont give me hopes

[peak escarp]

we'll have to wait and see

[quick grail]

we have been waiting too much, people will not be waiting for too long

[twilit patrol]

I won't trust to Blizzard

But we'll see how it will be

[peak escarp]

you're not being held hostage, you're allowed to enjoy other games

forget about Overwatch for a while, when you come back there will be new things to enjoy

[quick grail]

there is nothing like ow, palaadins the closest thing its fun but dont have the world and characters i fell in love and want to see more of them

[peak escarp]

then you'll just have to wait and be patient

catch up on the lore

try to master a new hero

[quick grail]

im very versed on the lore, i had a lot of time to do that, i know how to use everyone, its not that hard, im not a master but i know their abilities and know when i should and shouldnt use them

[peak escarp]

idk what to tell you then

you just need to relax

[true moss]

Try a new game in a different genre like dark souls or the last of us

[past copper]

Seriously, be patient. Ever hear good things come to those who wait?

Seriously, great stuff takes time and effort

Anyone here with a favorite tv series knows what I’m talking bout

We’d all love for the next season to a great show to drop, but we have to wait for it

[stuck stump]

Better to have a good product than a rushed one

[past copper]

Personally, I’d take quality over quantity any day

[zenith mango]

.'

[quick grail]

We waited 4 years and we got the story missions

[twilit patrol]

It's been 4-5 they worked the story missions

[hasty aspen]

anyone down to play the new pve if they have it

[paper ocean]

HI GAUTIER!!

[rare trail]

!!lfg

[twilit nacelle]

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[twilit patrol]

Hello

[barren lichen]

is Ana being wanted?

like by the police

[chrome plover]

Thoughts on who pharahs dad could be?

[rare trail]

sam

this guy

[chrome plover]

Thought so. Where is sam though rn in the current lore?

[peak escarp]

at home in Canada

[rare trail]

hes a native canadian right?

that isnt a topic for lore

[chrome plover]

Anyways lets get into the crazy stuff

No powers. No armor. Just bare hands and fist. Who will win in a fight.

Like a normal boxing match

Sigma or reinhardt

[lavish vessel]

Easily reinhardt

[chrome plover]

But isnt sigma beefin?

[lavish vessel]

Sigma does have a visible six pack in his summer skin but rein is much more muscular im pretty sure. And sigma is a bit cookoo

[worthy rose]

He is indeed!

[merry token]

Six pack doesn’t mean that much alone, just means that the person is lean

He does have quite a built frame in general, though

[fathom tartan]

Sigma has actual supernatural powers tho

[merry token]

That’s why no powers was mentioned

[fathom tartan]

Well sigma has skipped leg day considering he seemily is stuck constantly floating

Also rein shouldn't hit sigma that's mean

Sigma is basically a crazy sad old man talon is using

[worthy rose]

https://tenor.com/view/huey-freeman-huey-boondocks-kick-superkick-gif-6006195

So sigma can do this

He can just spin and kick him in the face

[hushed jetty]

in what boxing match are you allowed to kick faces

[worthy rose]

UFC

that's not really boxing but who cares!

[twilit fossil]

kick-boxing

[rare trail]

rein would body sigma in a no powers no armor fight

rein is super muscular and like physically fights all the time

sigma is just kinda some guy

[fresh rock]

Where in the world did this fight even come from

[idle finch]

This

no powers no armor rein would win but honestly sigma would probably befriend him but giving up before the fight starts

and then they just have a convo

surely two relatively same age old people could get along

[viscid flame]

Roadhog has the power belly, he could beat everyone but Doom

Mauga's build is on par with Omnic War Rein from the art we've seen of him

[hushed jetty]

this implies omnjc crisis rein has a different build from current rein?

anyway mauga is described to have literally crushed a man's throat (through his armor? i dont remember) with his bare hands sooooo

[haughty marsh]

So who's gay

[hushed jetty]

soldier, tracer, pharah

so far anyway

[haughty marsh]

Noooo

Pharah?

Damn

She was a baddie

[rare trail]

well yeah? rein its 30 years older

mauga also has cybernetic enhancements

[hushed jetty]

thats confirmed?

[rare trail]

in the bap mauga short story iirc

what you left behind i think

[hushed jetty]

ah i thought i made the enhancements up lmao

[rare trail]

hes still really buff though

he could probably beat rein

with no powers and stuff

[hushed jetty]

would be thr battle of th3 century fa sho

we better get him for s8 or i will explode
they ahve kept him from us for TOO LONG

[rare trail]

big winners in non enhancement fighting are like doom rein hog mauga i think

oh and winston

jq could probably fend for herself pretty well too

[hushed jetty]

basically tanks

[rare trail]

yea

besides for hammond lol

oh and zarya

zarya is really strong

[hushed jetty]

hammond is, regretfully, just a large hamster
he would indeed get bodied

[rare trail]

dva wouldnt do very well

but most tanks would

like just being big and tall is pretty valuable

i wonder who the weakest would be

maybe mei

or mercy

[hushed jetty]

in just a boxing match, a lot of supports

[rare trail]

yeah like ana

[hushed jetty]

ana and lifeweaver seem like theyd lose really badly in a fight. prob mercy too

[rare trail]

lw is pretty strong

and hall

tall

[hushed jetty]

tall yeah but ol boy is lanky

[rare trail]

would he be armless? or just have a reg human arm instead of a prosthetic

[hushed jetty]

itd be kinda unfair to take his arm away

[rare trail]

well like one of dooms cybernetic arms can punch through concrete so i dont think its fair to let him keep that

[hushed jetty]

well doom's gauntlet is a Gauntlet
he does have 2 arms

[idle finch]

if ur talking abt the doom origin(?) vid, he punched thru the wall with his normal hand

doom solos unfortunately

[rare trail]

no

doom lost his arm in the omnic crisis

Ogundimu’s stellar professional fighting career was cut short with the loss of his right arm during the Omnic Crisis.

[hushed jetty]

nvm, point redacted

[idle finch]

i just got here so maybe we’re talking about two different times but https://youtu.be/vaZfZFNuOpI

he uses his normal arms

this yalls convo tho ima go back to watching yt

have fun ig

[hushed jetty]

okay how about we just remove his gauntlet and give him a normal, cassidy-style prosthetic arm

[rare trail]

one of those arms is a realistic prosthetic

[hushed jetty]

he still solos but its not as unfair

[rare trail]

hmm maybe

cass' arm is still probably stronger though

than like a reg humans

[hushed jetty]

this is true but doomfist is still doomfist

literally trained in martial arts n shit

[rare trail]

yea hes strong

yeah

[zenith mango]

why does brig call rein uncle in the missiones

isnt rein her godfather

[peak escarp]

he is

sometimes kids will call their parents' friends aunt/uncle

I have a few "uncles" that are my dad's high school friends

[zenith mango]

oh

[stuck stump]

Is Brig a nice person

[peak escarp]

yes

[shadow marsh]

Isn't Zarya canonically the strongest woman in ow lore

[peak escarp]

yes

[loud moat]

why did widowmaker kill her husband

i was js thinking bout that

[peak escarp]

because Talon kidnapped her and programmed her into a sleeper agent

[loud moat]

and then like

talon brainwashed her right

and wasn’t her husband a like overwatch sniper or something?

[peak escarp]

he was the head of Anti Talon operations in Overwatch

[loud moat]

ohhh that explains why

they manipulated widow to kill him

[peak escarp]

yes

[upper scaffold]

Lorewise how strong is doomfist in comparison to the average man? Ik he's a genius and martial artist but how strong is he w/ the fist

[steel cosmos]

fist can level a skyscraper

[wraith kettle]

Is bastion breedable?

[crimson kettle]

Never speak again 💥💥

[brisk moon]

??

[signal ermine]

What exactly is Talon's goal during the invasion story? I know (spoilers!) they were after Zenyata as we saw in the end on the cutscenes, and we also know they're working together with null sector, but why tho? Doesn't null sector want to basically destroy all of humanity or smth?

[twilit patrol]

Ramattra doesn't want to destroy the humanity

It's not its goal

[naive ore]

we will have peace.
we will have peace.. At any cost

[twilit patrol]

Ramattra want the peace but for him, the war is the only way.

[naive ore]

same goal different approach

[twilit patrol]

But it's not a war

This is liberation

[naive ore]

real

[signal ermine]

oh mbmb, didn't follow the lore that much

[twilit patrol]

You don't need to know all

I don't know too much neither

[wraith kettle]

Who tf are u?

[steel cosmos]

probably

[fresh rock]

Not.

[minor salmon]

yes

[icy light]

Is bastion breedable?

[azure stirrup]

would

[steel cosmos]

is echo breedable

[next jewel]

Lawd I hope so.

[crimson kettle]

Im Ento:]

[rare trail]

well without the gauntlet he still has a cybernetic arm so its still not a fair fight but before he got implants and lost his arm he did martial arts so he could probably beat most people up

[ruby ridge]

@peak escarp your the person who knows most lore, I have a friend who keeps saying mauga left talon, is it true???

[steel cosmos]

considering we havent seen him at all in the games missions or archives i think its possible he couldve left

[spare fox]

He got badly injured last we saw him in the Baptiste short story so not "left" but def on leave to recover

[merry mason]

for all we know he could be dead (he wont be though)

[worthy rose]

Whos mauga?

[twilit patrol]

A heavy assault from the Talon

[worthy rose]

ok thanks

[peak escarp]

not as far as I'm aware

[ruby ridge]

Alright thanks

[mossy quail]

@worthy rose please

[rare trail]

?

[vapid tusk]

Is Mauga the dude who fought bap

[worthy rose]

I'd think Mauga was Baptistes best friend

while in Talon

I haven't read his novel yet but I really like how he looks

[lavish vessel]

Yeah at the end of his short story

They were good friends in talon tho

[fresh rock]

Once Mauga comes to the game, it's game over.

[rare trail]

do you mean what you left behind? because thats a short story not a novel

[lavish vessel]

I think that’s what he meant yeah

[paper ocean]

He's coming into the game???

[rare trail]

eventually probably

they were planning to add him but they made the kit and thought ot didn’t fit him

he might be the next tank

but we dont know

[paper ocean]

Oh cool!

[glossy abyss]

Carrot 🥕

👍

[chrome plover]

Together they bros will find that melody

[chrome plover]

He is also Australian

[paper ocean]

Orange

[glossy abyss]

No

Carrot 🥕

[paper ocean]

🥕

[glossy abyss]

No orange 🍊

Have 🥕

[paper ocean]

Okay!

🥕

[glossy abyss]

Okay

[paper ocean]

K back to lore

[glossy abyss]

Mercy is not immortal.

[paper ocean]

I know

But I am😈

[desert timber]

lore question is sigma musically talented or does he just like to listen to the universe

[idle finch]

just enjoys music

[pseudo shard]

He might not enjoy that melody tho

[shadow marsh]

Auditory hallucinations

[fresh rock]

That's.. actually a great question!

Sorry for ping!

[paper ocean]

He can't help it. Music js plays at random moments

[desert timber]

yeah but he canonically vibes

[zenith mango]

Any lore implications for soldier being in the death from above thing?

[peak escarp]

it's a grey canon event

the mission is canon, the heroes on the mission are not

[zenith mango]

K

[slow bane]

I thought the OW team said that the Underworld mission in its entirety was noncanon while the 3 paid pve missions were

[peak escarp]

they said it's canon-ish

[pseudo shard]

Can we just talk about what we wanna see in future PVE missions? I was hyped asf during the cutscenes and the mere mention of unseen characters like Soldier 76 hyped me up for the future. I loved the way they handled these cutscenes.

But I mean. There’s a lot more to explore. Junkers. Talon. What jack and Ana are up to. what do you guys wanna see?

[agile quiver]

🥐

[hushed jetty]

id love to see more talon, and im p sure its confirmed that we will

[pseudo shard]

I really want to hear some epic threatening music while talon decimates whatever place they’re going to destroy.

[hushed jetty]

otherwise i think itd be cool to get some of the unaffiliated characters into the mix

i wanna see what the junkers are up to, or satya and lifeweaver maybe

[pseudo shard]

I mean we kinda already got that since OW2. Mei, lucio, pharah, zarya, baptiste, dva, I guess brig aswell, all characters that are now officially with overwatch.

[quick grail]

so why pharah in overwatch 2 cut her braids with egyptian ornaments? it was something that make her stand, was something very distinctive of her, is there anything in the lore i miss? or what you think? why she cut her hair ater rconcile with ana?

[limpid agate]

I think its just a change in artists

It was part of her silhouette in OW1, and something comparable was on all of her legendaries

Except Qinglong

[sudden crystal]

Ramattra is based af long live null sector

bringing liberation across the world with revolution

[pseudo shard]

I don’t think i really agree with this

[golden oak]

Ngl I kinda wanna see echo hacked by null sector and turned into one of their troops, that would be sick

[pseudo shard]

I really want a whole evil counterpart arc tbh. The new Ana mythic says it’s actually an attempt to transfer Ana’s consciousness into an obedient robot. We already have null sector orisa and bastion and battle pass skins.

[verbal agate]

Wait until you try my meatballs

[fresh rock]

You didn't even quote it right.

[worthy rose]

BAMF

[pulsar hazel]

How long do i have to wait!?

[sudden crystal]

Ramattra is a revolutionary Maoist

Liberating Earth

[distant sparrow]

what is the full speech of ramattra in new queen street?

in the story mode

[lapis mirage]

any symm main that can teach me?

[verbal agate]

3-5 business days

[pulsar hazel]

I cant wait that long, will you maybe let me ride your bike?

[verbal agate]

Yeah, I think I can let you do that 👏

[peak escarp]

!!loreonly

[twilit nacelle]

This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[woven jewel]

loreos

[fresh rock]

How many kids does Torb have? Do we know of any other than Brig?

[peak escarp]

4 of his kids are named in various interactions

Elvira, Marta, Nils and Brigitte

[fresh rock]

Are there any more?

[peak escarp]

maybe

we don't know how many kids Torbjorn has

[fresh rock]

Ahh, I see, thanks anyways doc!

[willow meadow]

What made reaper become evil. Was is just his jealousy for soldier 76? Or did it have to do with how Moira experimented on him

[peak escarp]

he wasn't jealous of 76

it was partially because of Moira

partially because Doomfist convinced him that Overwatch wasn't working

[willow meadow]

When reaper was in the soldier program, wasn’t he jealous that 76 was praised as the best of them and chosen as the leader

And that made him salty

Or am I wrong

[peak escarp]

no

they were friends in the Enhanced Soldier Program

and Reyes was the leader of the initial Overwatch strike team, not Morrison

but Morrison had better leadership skills, so the UN made him strike commander and gave Reyes Blackwatch

they stayed close friends until the Venice Incident, where Moira's involvement drove a wedge between them

[willow meadow]

Ohhhh ok. I was given mis information. I thought that soldier joining overwatch made reyes jealous and kinda made him bitter evil

[peak escarp]

that's a common idea among the community, but it has no basis in truth

[willow meadow]

Ah gotcha

Well thanks!

[sage plank]

Hello

does anyone know baps backstory?

[peak escarp]

he joined Talon to make money, but left when he found out they were harming civilians

[willow meadow]

Why is widowmaker purple. I know her heart beats slower too but why. And is that the only reason

[paper ocean]

Who's the wifey?

[peak escarp]

Ingrid

[paper ocean]

Has he metioned her. Like Tracer has a voiceline abt Emily

[peak escarp]

yes

he mentioned her apple pie

[paper ocean]

Ohhhhhh

The one with Mercy?

[peak escarp]

yes

[paper ocean]

Gotcha!

Another question

Does Tracer age?

[peak escarp]

yes

[paper ocean]

Normal aging or...?

[peak escarp]

yes, normal aging

[twilit patrol]

Isn't it 29 ?

[peak escarp]

she was 26 in OW1

[twilit patrol]

oh

[paper ocean]

Hmm....but I thought her aging pauses everytime she restarts, or blinks(teleports)

[peak escarp]

it doesn't

[paper ocean]

Oh ok

[peak escarp]

even if it did, it would be enough to affect her age

[sudden crystal]

I need more Ramattra content

[paper ocean]

Like lore, or in game items?

[willow meadow]

Anyone know this ^^^

[peak escarp]

they slowed her heart to make her breathe slower, so her aim would be more steady

[willow meadow]

That’s diabolical

All that just for us to wear the nova skin anyway hah

Which I assume was her before that happened

[peak escarp]

the Nova skin is a crossover with Starcraft

https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Nova_Terra

this is what Widowmaker looked like before

[willow meadow]

So all this time I thought nova was her super team or whatever before the slow heart treatment.

What about the other human skin color. Talon

[peak escarp]

that's when she was in training

after killing her husband and returning to Talon

[lavish vessel]

Wait why did her eyes change from brown to yellow tho??

[peak escarp]

part of the genetic modification? idk

it's just an aesthetic change

[lavish vessel]

Oh okie, fair enough

[hushed jetty]

gerard 🥺

he deserved better

[ruby gull]

Bastion is some robot or something idk lore

torb is daddy with 12 kids or something

he can’t keep his dick in his pants for some reason

hanzo has dragon

genii has dragon

what does that mean?

brother

[merry token]

It’s not widow’s fault that she was kidnapped and turned into a sleeper agent ☠️☠️☠️

[white zinc]

SO! I need to know everything about my boy bastion👀

[sudden crystal]

Both

Mostly lore

My man is leading the global revolution to overthrow opression

Based asl

[willow meadow]

Im trying to find a lore question that has an answer but it’s so deep warlord won’t know the answer

[merry token]

Like what specifically

Cause his short on YouTube would be a nice watch

[willow meadow]

How did Wrecking Ball get so smart and isn’t just any regular hamster

[merry token]

Genetically modified like Winston

[white zinc]

I seen the short. Heard the all the interactions and played the ironclad story mission

[merry token]

There’s a comic where torbjorn finds and meets bastion if you want to read that

Binary

[willow meadow]

Part of an army of like a million bastions but torb fixed him up into his own personality.

That’s the short version

[white zinc]

Hell yes

[willow meadow]

There’s a lot in between that tho

[white zinc]

Just read it

[pseudo shard]

And the cover of the comic goes hard asf

[red violet]

Overwatch

[jolly wind]

i have questions about reaper

when soldier and ana took reapers mask, why were they shocked to see his face

what happaned to his face that made them shock

[ruby ridge]

Okay so

His face is basically half dark smoke half human

Reaper’s power is that his cells die and exist extremely quick

Ana was gasping at that

If you saw moira origin story, when she’s experimenting on reaper

It’s that but way worse

[jolly wind]

i know every thing you just said but that dosent answer me

[ruby ridge]

Because his face was completely destroyed

It was half black fog

Half human

It was the first time they saw reyes this bad

[worthy rose]

thats cool u know this stuff

thats cringe they made him an edgelord

[rare trail]

also this was their first time seeing his face after the swiss explosion

[shadow marsh]

He is basically a walking corpse

I remember someone sent an image here of his face after the swiss incident

[rare trail]

we havent seen his full face post explosion

closest is a dusk spray iirc

[paper ocean]

Who?

[rare trail]

reaper

[paper ocean]

Ah

[signal ermine]

any chance that Ashe and the deadlock gang would join overwatch in the invasion story?

or is that out if the question?

[stark sphinx]

Why is widowmakers cheeks purple like grimace

[merry mason]

Why single out her cheeks when she all purple

[ruby ridge]

They lowered her heartbeat

So she’s purple just w

[ruby ridge]

I can only see ashe joining overwatch if Bob gets Captured by null sector

[rare trail]

Talon’s geneticist, Moira O’Deorain, altered Amélie’s physiology to improve her aim, drastically slowing her heart, which turned her skin cold and blue, and numbed her ability to experience human emotion.

[white zinc]

Based

[stark sphinx]

Only part I’m looking at

[stark sphinx]

Oh shit

[alpine furnace]

[glossy gale]

Well it is now interesting cause Kiriko seems to be confirmed to be a part of overwatch

[rare trail]

what?

[glossy gale]

She has a new voice line with the update

She sometimes says at match start “look mom I’m an agent of overwatch”

But then again she could just be being sarcastic it’s hard to tell

[lavish vessel]

She’s being sarcastic, she says it when there’s a majority of ow heroes on the team.

[peak escarp]

correct

Kiriko isnt part of Overwatch

[pastel dirge]

winston had a emo phase ong

[mellow stratus]

[pastel dirge]

its when he escaped the zoo on the moon

[mellow stratus]

I see

[pastel dirge]

yeah

he was headbanning with reinhardt

[paper ocean]

🤨

[past copper]

So an interesting thought. In a data analysis on the Null Sector unit Stalker, Torbjörn says he cut open the eyes and found a mysterious plasma within that evaporated instantly.

I believe that mysterious plasma is what was in this crate from Train Hopper and used in Stalker eyes to power their tracker beams

Possibly even the same can be said of the Subjugator’s too

[mossy hill]

so out of curiosity

where could Doomfist be scaled to?

[rare trail]

wdym scaled to?

he beat genji and tracer

[mossy hill]

like small building level, medium building, high

mountain level, etc etc

[rare trail]

one of the kids in the museum trailer said something about him leveling a skyscraper but thats not really confirmed as canon

uhhh he can punch pretty hard ig

like without the gauntlet he can punch through concrete because of his cybernetic arm

[lunar helm]

If overwatch's purpose is world peace and all, why is the overwatch heroes fighting against themself in game?

Like we aren't fighting omnics but other overwatch members

[lavish vessel]

The gameplay is non canon, besides stuff like archives and the new pve modes

[hollow tinsel]

The conductors face in the second panel is 💀

[vapid tusk]

which hero's lore would fit the song "Viva La Vida" better, Reinhardt or Hanzo?

[vapid tusk]

no way... kevin the cube?

[lavish vessel]

Rein id say

[pseudo shard]

Genji is acting so edgy this time around in PVE. Do you guys think it has something to do with hanzo? We can assume that after the dragons short where he revealed himself to hanzo for the first time after his ‘death’ he went straight to Paris to slash a giant robot and then went along to Rio and the other stuff with the PVE now.

I really hope hanzo’s story will actually…y’know have something happening. He feels kinda empty compared to genji. I need to see hanzo making that choice genji confronted him with

[vapid tusk]

[paper ocean]

Rien

[paper ocean]

Why we talking about fortnite😭

[vapid tusk]

i personally don't really know much about this but i remember Doctor Six saying that there's gonna be another hanzo cinematic

[vapid tusk]

you can't tell me that's not kevin

[paper ocean]

It does look like it😭

[peak escarp]

how is he edgy? he's pretty calm in his journal entries

[vapid tusk]

what does edgy even mean

[pseudo shard]

Im meaning his personality is much different and serious/quiet compared to his jokey in-game self. Me and my friends were surprised about that but it would make sense

[vapid tusk]

well it is an invasion

no time to really be joking around much

although i thought he was pretty silly in the train, no?
the mercy interaction

[shadow marsh]

He pretty much is jokey with mercy. In the Toronto mission there's an interaction between them about Mercy saying why Genji hasn't been sending her letters, he said he couldn't draw an art in return because her drawing is beautiful — Mercy then said: "Ah, is it because you're a bad artist?" Then Genji responded that something about her drawing is actually bad.

Alot of people mistaken this

They're actually being sarcastic to eachother

[vapid tusk]

Pharmercy shippers especially lmao

[pseudo shard]

Ehh either way he just seems different in the cutscenes. maybe I’m looking too much into it. It’s not like tracer is more serious either.

[shadow marsh]

You can tell the Sarcasm because of their tone

[vapid tusk]

something along the lines of "and a liar too... your drawings was horrible!"

[shadow marsh]

He's still the goofball we know

[lunar helm]

Lore cassidy is one of the strongest dps

He's like top 3-4

[rare trail]

nah

[paper ocean]

@peak escarp I got a question

Why does all of the heroes have atleast one prostethics?

Is there a connection or...?

[rare trail]

not all heroes

[paper ocean]

Well a majority, at least

[rare trail]

dva hanzo lucio mei mercy pharah roadhog soldier tracer widow winston zarya brig hammond kiriko sigma bap ashe

[rare trail]

no

[paper ocean]

SOMBRA???

[rare trail]

i think so?

[peak escarp]

Sombra has a computer implant

[rare trail]

oh mb

then she should be in top tier

[paper ocean]

What about JQ

Her spinny thing on her wrist

is that not enhancment?

[rare trail]

thats not really an implant just like something she wears i thought

[paper ocean]

Oh

ok

[rare trail]

like tracers anchor thing

[paper ocean]

Gotcha!

[white wave]

ola

[paper ocean]

that was 5 days ago....

[quick grail]

illari have nothing robotic, her limbs look robotis but its only her clotes, right? its like pharah, even her ow2 model looks robotic but she have her full body

reinhard its a normal human, he only uses an armor

[rare trail]

reinhardts eye is missing

[quick grail]

livewire of however his name is, what robotic part he have?

[rare trail]

lifeweavers arm is cybernetic

[quick grail]

but its still missing, he didnt get an implant

moira body modifications are biologic as far as the lore have show, she dont have robotic parts

same with reaper

[rare trail]

yeah

its still not really accurate for them to be in the nothing tier

[quick grail]

then make another tier with no robotic modifications

soldier got super enchaged too

like reaper

[rare trail]

"Illari’s augmentation ceremony"

soldier didnt get stuff from moira

[quick grail]

the tier says cybernetic enchancement or prosthetic, illari powers were something magic right?

its pretty much clear magic exists in ow

[rare trail]

i thought they were cybernetic but even if theyre magic nothing tier doesnt fit her

[peak escarp]

it's unclear what the source of her powers is

could be magic, could be tech

could be magitech

[quick grail]

make the new tier enhancement without being cybrogs

[white wave]

better late than never🙂

[north shore]

Honestly the thing I like best about overwatch is the lore, I enjoy the gameplay but the storys so interesting and the animation is so on point and the game seems to be starting to repair itself I think theres been a lot of gameplay disapointments so im here for the lore at least

Because it was such a good opprotunity for lore is why the PvE cancel got me quitting for like a straight month

also whats the illari lore? im not caught up

[peak escarp]

the writers/artists carry Overwatch

[golden oak]

She was from a family that were able to control sunlight, and they did a ritual on her so she could do that too but it went wrong for some reason and they all died

Except Illari

And basically she’s the last person that is able to do what she does

Because the place where rituals were done was destroyed

[whole ether]

Interesting 🤔 (didn't read anything)

[past copper]

Anyway, given what was read in the data for the Stalker, I believe these are related

Torbjörn said he didn’t know what the plasma was the Stalker has in her eyes, but I see strong similarities between the Stalker’s beam and the mysterious crate Cole kicked off

Talon clearly wanted it for a reason and giving it to their ally Ramattra isn’t unlikely if it means to help him strengthen his forces

[opaque tundra]

Considering the storyline was being written in 2015, this is probably the case

[past copper]

Also, to anyone who didn’t read the data on the Null Sector units, safe to finally confirm something

The Titan’s armor is lubricated in a special kind of lubricant specifically for sub-zero climate

We already had speculated Ramattra to be based in Antarctica bc of hints on the Antarctic Peninsula map, but safe to say this info confirms it

[paper ocean]

Ok. HOLAAA

[paper ocean]

I feel like the stalker will be our next hero

[white wave]

qué tal

[paper ocean]

rule number one. sorry

[peak escarp]

since it's gravity-based, I think it's more likely that the Stalker/Subjugator's beams are based on Sigma's tech

and that box has been forgotten by the devs completely

the visual resemblance is a coincidence

[peak escarp]

the Stalkers are non-sapient drones

[paper ocean]

Well we have bastion, zen, ram, orisa. I feel like they could add someone, even if it's a drone

[worldly lintel]

Did the vietnam war happen in the ow universe

[spare fox]

They don't really reference things from the past before the omnics started getting created but I guess so.. but it would have been over 100 years ago at the time

[past copper]

These are all sentient. With Orisa having been programmed with sentience by Efi

Regardless, a mindless killing machine drone isn’t going to be a playable hero

[shadow marsh]

Orisa's case is special, I thought it was cool that we have a playable Idena bot

[peak escarp]

Efi didn't make Orisa sentient - an eleven-year-old isn't going to figure out something world class scientists couldn't figure out

Echo isn't sentient either

if Orisa is sentient (which is questionable) it's because the Idina she was made from was sentient

[hushed jetty]

if echo isnt sentient then. whats her deal

[peak escarp]

she's a highly advanced learning AI

she can imitate anything, even sentience

[river nimbus]

yo

can some1 explain to me the lore?

[vapid tusk]

Which one

[river nimbus]

idk whichever is your favorite

[peak escarp]

https://youtu.be/QbMbZjhSJqo

[river nimbus]

ty

[ruby ridge]

huh?

[white zinc]

So what's the deal with the hamster? He go through some kinda brain experiment or something?

[ruby ridge]

Genetic modification

Like winston

On the hlc

[white zinc]

Hlc?

[ruby ridge]

Horizon lunar colon

Y

[white zinc]

Ohhh

How'd he end up in overwatch?

If he is I mean. Still learning

[spare fox]

he's not (yet? maybe they'll team up)
he landed in the Australian outback, built his escape pod into a mech to fight in the Junkertown mech fights, became the Junkerqueen's champion and now he's off exploring the world but probably pops back into Junkertown now and then

[white zinc]

That's cool af

[spare fox]

also no one but the Junkerqueen knows that the mech is piloted by a hamster

[white zinc]

Wait for?

FR*

[spare fox]

everyone else thinks he's just some guy in a mech

[white zinc]

Damn

I love it

[spare fox]

not in-game, but story-wise anyway

[ruby ridge]

He’s not, after the gorillas revolted against the scientists in the hlc, hammond ran away on a escape pod stuck on Winston ship, he ended up in the wasteland, and winston ended up in gibraltSr if I remember correctly

It’s basically megamind if you saw the movie

[spare fox]

it's weird with Overwatch because there's in-game and then there's canon which is weird but you get used to separating it

[white zinc]

I'm slowly getting it I think

[spare fox]

yeah take your time and enjoy getting into it

[white zinc]

Oh for sure. Read my first OW comic yesterday

Just making sure here. I ain't gonna get in shit for asking questions here right?

[hushed jetty]

prob not
unless you ask "which is the strongest character" for the 1 millionth time

[spare fox]

no, as long as you don't ask who is strongest lol

[hushed jetty]

lmao

[peak escarp]

questions are fine

[spare fox]

yeah you can ask anything really

[peak escarp]

the regulars here are knowledgeable, and you can find all the lore in the pins on this channel

[high yoke]

is there a lore explanation for the cassidy name change?

[peak escarp]

it was a retcon

[blazing pendant]

if the chip in mondattas head isnt damaged, maybe it could be transferred to a new body or something

[past copper]

So, anyone got screenshots of Null Sector units from General Intel?

[nocturne cliff]

How did bastion gain consciousness?

[past copper]

A bird reactivated him

By complete accident

U less you meant to say sentience

In which case, he was damaged when his drop pod crashed and rendered deactivated for years

Around that time, in that comatose state, Bastion had gained sentience from the Awakening

[nocturne cliff]

But like, how come no erosion broke down his CPU or battery or at least some joint damage

[past copper]

Bastions obviously have coating that prevents this. Especially if a majority of places they attacked from was the sea

Hell, this Bastion literally traveled the sea for a long period of time

[nocturne cliff]

When do they say that?

I’m trying to get all of bastions lore together

[minor mortar]

Hanzo got diffed by me frfr

[past copper]

They’d have to be coated. Probably just basic thing for siege units considering they were deployed to attack every nation in different climates

[nocturne cliff]

Ig

[past copper]

Considering some traveled through the sea to cross into cities or had to fight in cold weather climates

Lubricant would have to be applied to keep their armor from corroding

Considering the circumstances, the same thing is still being done by Null Sector. At least based on the Titan’s general intel

Besides, the only thing affected by the elements was Bastion’s war paint

[nocturne cliff]

It just seems strange that after years and years of being in direct soil, that nothing has caused corrosion

Eh whatever

[high yoke]

what is the ethnicity of roadhog? Is he australian?

[scarlet apex]

Native New Zealander iirc

[high yoke]

Maori?

xD no wonder the bros solid

[spare fox]

everything official says that he's from around Junkertown, Australia but there are allusions to him having some kind of connection to New Zealand/Maori

[high yoke]

allusions?

what are they?

[spare fox]

iirc besides a couple skins, the teacup on his toast victory pose and a blanket in his house have Maori symbolism on them, his name 'Mako' and the "beached as" voiceline they gave him

[high yoke]

isnt one of the skins islander? are maoris considered islanders?

[spare fox]

I don't know

[worthy rose]

I need to update my lore so I can scream canon insults at people

Anything new recently?

[golden oak]

Is Lucio’s father still alive?

[lavish vessel]

Yeah, he sent an email to ow which can be seen on Winstons computer

[daring basin]

ever payed attention that both skins are 2 different bastions? which is cool asf the bird might be there but the serial number on bastion changes

[mossy hill]

so if im correct and Sigma can accidentally launch people out of orbit

how would that exactly be scaled in power wise

[paper ocean]

too powerful

He lettraly can control gravity

[mossy hill]

to be fair it could scale him to planetary considering he can control black holes

possibly further if they are big enough

[paper ocean]

What about Zarya

She can also shoot black holes

And she is one of the strongest women in lore

[mossy hill]

yes but Sigma more or less has Black Hole manipulation

[paper ocean]

true

[rare trail]

we dont know to what extent

zarya doesnt shoot black holes she shoots gravitons

a black hole of that size would destroy the earth

[paper ocean]

Then what is her Ult?

[rare trail]

a graviton

[paper ocean]

oh

[rare trail]

if you compressed the moon so that it became a black hole it would be .2 millimeters, a black hole the size of zaryas ult would require immense amounts of mass

[paper ocean]

I'm sorry but I can't comprehend all that 0-0

[rare trail]

but yeah zarya doesnt shoot black holes

[paper ocean]

Ok ok

[mossy hill]

theyre more like magnets i think

[rare trail]

her ult is shown in a comic

searching i think?

[peak escarp]

gravitons are gravity particles

extremely dense and they pull everything in

[rare trail]

how did zarya know that?

[peak escarp]

the little girl Alejandra told her

[paper ocean]

How did Alejandra know?

[peak escarp]

Sombra grew up in Dorado

[paper ocean]

I know that but then how come everyone else in Dorado not know about her? Were they freinds or smt

[peak escarp]

they were protecting her

nobody else wanted to give her up

[paper ocean]

Oh ok!

[quick grail]

wasnt sombra like a hero on dorado or something like that? when zarya asks alejandra about sombra she ask if she did something bad? not knowing who in reality sombra is, she is know there and not like a villian. but still a hacker that wants to hide her existence from the world because is trying to unmask a global conspiracy shouldnt visit the same bakery and give her name to the locals

anyway, remember when there was a global conspiracy in the ow world, and sombra was blackmailing zarya boss and i dont know, something about plots that were to nowhere?

[peak escarp]

yes

they saw Sombra as a local hero

[distant sparrow]

why does sombra like sigma

[quick grail]

sombra likes ligma

[merry epoch]

which hero has the highest canon kill count

i wanna say illari but i feel like thats wrong

[peak escarp]

probably... one of the ones who fought during the crisis

so Ana, Soldier, Reaper, Torb, Rein or Ramattra

[merry epoch]

i can definitely see that

[peak escarp]

lowest would be Bastion, Mei, Zenyatta, Orisa

probably a few others that haven't killed anyone

or only killed Null Sector drones

[sharp trench]

probably Reinhardt with all the bots he ran around smashing

or Torbjorn with his contributions to the omnic industry

[peak escarp]

I think Illari has the highest "on screen" kill count

depending on how many Inti warriors she killed

[wild sorrel]

How do u guys know this?

[peak escarp]

we read/watch the lore

Torbjorn may be responsible for a lot of deaths, but he also has the most kids/grandkids out of all the heroes

[jolly current]

bro was not cooking 😭

[peak escarp]

why are you digging up posts from 4 years ago?

[jolly current]

To get dirt on you

[twilit patrol]

[craggy wharf]

Cooking what 🤭

[twilit patrol]

Oh

(Why did I do that)

[zenith mango]

Why did reaper stay in talon

[peak escarp]

that wasn't my post

[mellow stratus]

Because he's an antagonist

[rare trail]

has sigma killed anyone?

[ruby ridge]

He didn’t have anywhere other Togo

To go

Like sombra said in the code of violence short story, “some people in talon stay there because they don’t have anywhere else to go, like you” or something like that

[ruby ridge]

We don’t know

[rare trail]

i dont think he has? although random gravity shit could have gotten some killed on a space station

or lunar colony whatever

[ruby ridge]

Signs barely has any lore we don’t know

[rare trail]

i wonder how many widow has killed

[mellow stratus]

No

[jolly current]

Bad theory

[jolly current]

I know but I just stumbled upon that one

[jolly current]

Prob he’s used as a weapon and prob during the prison escape since it’s heavily guarded and his powers went on a rampage there

[twilit patrol]

We don't care ?

[jolly current]

He literally asked dawg😭😭😭😭 he do care

[twilit patrol]

He ?

[jolly current]

She?? They????That’s not the point tho homie

[peak escarp]

it doesn't matter

don't reply to years old messages

[rare trail]

he isnt used as a weapon by talon

[peak escarp]

Sigma was useless during "the prison escape"

we saw it in Code of Violence

[ruby ridge]

Yeah

I’m pretty sure that sigma in lore is incredibly mentally “slow”

Like he can’t focus anhmore on multiple things

If you give him something he’ll focus on that

[fleet scaffold]

WHAT DOES RAMATTRA WANT WITH THE OMNICS:

What does he intend to do with the consciousness of the omnic people?

Is he saving them for the Iris? Is he trying to expand their lifecycle into a longer generation?

WHAT DOES HE WANT.

[peak escarp]

we don't know yet

[fleet scaffold]

I feel like he's trying to preserve their "souls" so they can last longer than a generation.

[steel ivy]

i took it as he has seen humans as animals and hes a semi omnic supremacist that is willing to for his goal work with some humans who are of use to him
flaws in that theory for sure but we dont have alot to work with

although from a purely real world politically driven save face pov, that theory is almost definitely incorrect

[fleet scaffold]

I feel like it might be closer to a scorched earth situation where he's saving the omnic consciousnesses in a cloud server or something like that, so that they can be safe from the war that will launch from the purging of Humanity.

[golden oak]

What is Illari’ real name

[golden oak]

They can’t, there would have to be another Aurora for more sentient omnics

[ruby ridge]

We don’t know

[golden oak]

Wow, they didn’t bother telling us anything huh

[ruby ridge]

Tbf she has less lore then lifeweaver

She’s not connected to any pre existing character so that’s even less lore

And her lore is just “I sun nuked my village”

[fleet scaffold]

No I meant to save their souls to a cloud so they can be unharmed in the war against humanity.

[golden oak]

I don’t like how lifeweaver was supposed to be the hero tied with the collective but his whole story is just Vishkar

[ruby ridge]

The collective being the Atlantic archeology right??

[fleet scaffold]

I like that we don't know EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW. There has to be room for mystery and speculation.

[golden oak]

And it’s only mentioned that he’s currently in the arcology which is run by the collective apparently

[ruby ridge]

I’m fine with m&s for now but I don’t want it to stay like this for too much

[golden oak]

I think so

[ruby ridge]

Yeah I really hope we get more lore on the atakntif archeology

A map even

Sym is gonna track down lifeweaver tho so maybe?

[fleet scaffold]

I mean his character arc is all about his battle with Vishkar, which isn't a global threat or anything but, it's pretty small scale and specific to only him.

IMAGINE IF THE NEXT MISSIONS in two years or so, were Sombra and Widow versus a BOSS BATTLE ZENYATTA.

[ruby ridge]

Vishkar is the 3rd big hee st villian group in ow

[golden oak]

Yes but esperanca and the collective was supposed to be a teaser for the new hero

[ruby ridge]

Next mission has basically al been revealed already

[ruby ridge]

Oh that’s the thing rheh we’re hinting at wirh esperanca??

[fleet scaffold]

Maybe it's a future tease to his later arcs?

Who knows.

[golden oak]

Maybe but I meant hero release

[fleet scaffold]

I really hope Zenyatta becomes a Boss Fight.

[ruby ridge]

He isn’t

Zenyatta reallt isn’t strong in lore

The mission is gonna be || ow escorting and rescuing zenyatta out of suravasa ||

[fleet scaffold]

I really want Talon missions maaannnn

[ruby ridge]

Next mission isn’t gonna be focused on null sector in pretty sure, it’s likely all talon

[golden oak]

Hints we got so far
Kanezaka fox graffiti and temple - kiriko
Toronto Iris Graffiti - Ram
JQ posters in Junkertown- JQ
Peru Poster in Arctic map - Illari

[ruby ridge]

Considering next mission batch is gonna be talon dirty jobs + soldiers

So far we know about 5 overwatxh PVE missions in total

The 3 we got

Suravasa + circuit royale

[fleet scaffold]

Doesnt the new event mission release today?

[ruby ridge]

On Tuesday yes

[golden oak]

Do you see my point? When you think about LW you think about Vishkar, not the arcology
Because most of his origin story was about Vishkar

[fleet scaffold]

I feel like Soldier 76 will be the event mission along the Talon missions arc.

[golden oak]

Uh, only kings row mission modifier

[ruby ridge]

I was wondering actually, I know Esperanca teases the collective but

What about esperanca

Where?

[fleet scaffold]

Ohhhh thats right, modifyers for the modifier challenges..

[ruby ridge]

I don’t think so, maybe tho

[golden oak]

The map doesn’t always matter since we got Illari hint in arctic map for example

[ruby ridge]

Lifeweaver has the potential for such cool lore

I’m not too sure on illari lore

Junkers lore is just extra fun

[golden oak]

Esperanca is just the place where Martins (collective founders) are from and that’s all

[ruby ridge]

I see

If I remember

The Atlantic archeology is a place unbinded from laws from the countries above?

[golden oak]

No idea

[peak escarp]

they could always add a Collective hero in the future

[golden oak]

I think it could be similar to oasis

[peak escarp]

yes the Arcology is outside international law

that's why Lifeweaver is hiding

[golden oak]

He is getting a short story soon

[fleet scaffold]

I would love if we got more gimmic gameplay, so we can play missions in a different way besides PvE combat.

[ruby ridge]

Yeah I know I’m really excited

Assuming from the blue in the background I think they could be in the Atlantic Arcology

Assuming it’s like

Atlantic

Atlantis

And under the ocean

[golden oak]

I think that’s a skyscraper

[ruby ridge]

Oh yeah nvm

Really excited for the stories tho

[golden oak]

I wonder if he’s gonna make symm rebel too

[ruby ridge]

This still makes me wonder how are they going to do illari lore?

[ruby ridge]

If sym rebels tho vishkar won’t really have much lore left except sanjay

[golden oak]

Honestly no idea she’s like the only character related to no one

[ruby ridge]

Maybe in a PVE mission where overwatch is trying to get sanjay and sym finally rebels

[ruby ridge]

I don’t really want her to go the Lucio/zarya(kinda) route and Join overwatxh

I don’t think she’d join talon since she’s not evil but she also isn’t good

And in interactions where she eliminates moira she has disdain for her

[golden oak]

Sym is good, she changed a lot after meeting zen

[ruby ridge]

I mean illari

But yeah sym is good

[golden oak]

Maybe her unique powers will be crucial in the future

[ruby ridge]

Maybe

I’m curious on how the PVE missions will go

After/if talon/null gets dismantled what happens to the story?

Just ends I guess?

[golden oak]

I wonder what they would do with ram if he was defeated

[peak escarp]

they'll come up with a new threat

[ruby ridge]

Lifeweaver r becomes EVIL

And unleashes evil biolight vines

[ruby ridge]

Probably imprison him

Or Ramattra sees the error of his ways 🤩 and reunites with his brother zenyatta and they both live a calm life together 🥹 😢

[golden oak]

We know that he probably ordered talon agents to find him

I mean to find zen

[ruby ridge]

Probably

I’m curious actually, how did ram get his powers,

[golden oak]

He’s an engineer

[ruby ridge]

I know zen got the magic balls from power from the iris I think

[ruby ridge]

Oh thag makes sense

[golden oak]

Zen powers aren’t canon most likely

[ruby ridge]

Not the god powers but I meant like

J thought zenyatta got his harmony and discord orb from orbs imbued with power from the iris

Like he got gifted them

[golden oak]

His orbs are just for meditation

[ruby ridge]

I see

There’s people who think zenyatta is a god in lore and that’s so silly

Mondatta was more of a monk then him and died very quickly

[golden oak]

Aurora was kinda

To omnics

She made them sentient so

[ruby ridge]

I mean power wise

If I rmemeber the genesis shorts

Aurora sacrificed herself in a controlled room right?

With Mina watching

[golden oak]

Yeah

[ruby ridge]

Makes me wonder how the shambali monks got the glowy iris part in their temple

The one at the zen cinemayic

[golden oak]

I think symm made it for them with hardlight

I don’t remember if it was in Nepal or suravasa tho

[ruby ridge]

Oh I see

Anyways I’m gonna go sleep bye

[young lily]

Yo wtf is this tf2 spy

[opaque tundra]

It formed under Nepal so they most likely built it to accommodate for it

[vapid tusk]

did genji meet zen at nepal

[fiery echo]

TF2 spy? Where?

[fiery echo]

Is this a comic or an animation?? 🤔

[peak escarp]

short story

[fiery echo]

Ooooh got it! I was looking for it in YT

Thank you buddy, I just found it! :]

[worthy rose]

Anyone wanna see a quick lore vid

[worthy rose]

balls god

[native kiln]

He is indeed the God of Balls
Bestows his blessings to all in his vicinity

[nocturne cliff]

I wish that bastion never lost his original motivation

I wish he absolutely wanted to kill everyone he saw, but couldn’t because sombra disabled his ability to kill humans that were considered “teammates”

Ik it makes no sense for the lore for sombra to encounter bastion before bastion killing other characters, but I wish it happened

I wish the omnic crises bastion stayed as omnic crises bastion

Or at least he would turn red when we became the turret, as like, flashbacks from robot shell shock

[ruby ridge]

Impossible because bastion would be easily destroyed

He is a single flimsy old unit

[nocturne cliff]

But if he was forced to team up because sombra taking away his ability to shoot teammates, then they wouldn’t destroy him, because he would be an asset

[nocturne cliff]

A flimsy old unit that survived for 30 years in decay, with no damage to his systems, and who was the main infantry unit that killed an uncountable amount of soldiers, and almost took down all of rienhardts super knights (that’s what I call them cuz it sounds awesome)

[worthy rose]

fr

[paper ocean]

Sombra hacked bastion?

[nocturne cliff]

No, I wish that sombra hacked bastion

[paper ocean]

That'd be cool ngl

[paper ocean]

I like that name, super knights!

[rare trail]

super knights? wdym? idinas are what killed balderich in honor and glory bastions were easily dealt with

[nocturne cliff]

I think it would be funny bc bastion would want to kill his ally’s, but wouldn’t be able to bc of sombra hacking him

[nocturne cliff]

Bastions did a lot of work though, they may have not been the highest ranking super bots, but they were extremely effective

(This is unrelated to anything else, but I think that omnic crises bastion is the coolest skin that bastion has)

[rare trail]

how long has bastion been with torb?

[nocturne cliff]

Idk

[rare trail]

only like a year at most right?

[nocturne cliff]

Yea

Imagine if bastion was augmented with torbs sentry for a head

[ruby ridge]

he did not take down all of the crusaders alone

It was a army

He could easily be dealt with if he stayed evil

[nocturne cliff]

The point was that they wouldn’t deal with him

The point is that he has to fight alongside people he wants to kill, but he can’t kill them because sombra disabled friendly fire

Why would they kill him, he is fighting alongside them

[ruby ridge]

I don’t get it, why do you want bastion to be like this?

[nocturne cliff]

Cuz I don’t like the nature loving bastion, who’s obsessed with his bird friend

I think it would add a layer to his character if he hated the OW team, but wasn’t able to kill them bc sombra, and then over time he grows to like them

I don’t like the “bad guy with amnesia is now good guy” trope

[rare trail]

why would sombra help overwatch?

[nocturne cliff]

She probably would disable his kill command for everyone, so she can figure out his design and use him against OW, but he escapes, before getting taken in by OW, and then getting his kill switch turned on for just enemies, by torb or smth

Then he has a loathing for OW, but he at least likes them more than sombra, bc he can kill atleast a little bit, so overtime he grows to like the OW crew

It gives him a character arc that is much more fleshed out

[rare trail]

hes sentient though why would he still want to kill?

[nocturne cliff]

In this story, he doesn’t become sentient until he starts to grow to like OW

[paper ocean]

I'm with ya bud

[nocturne cliff]

which is him slowly breaking out of his forced commands

[rare trail]

omnics cant just become sentient like that, they became sentient through aurora

[ruby ridge]

Bastion dosent have amnesia

He is sentient