#lore-discussion
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imma be honest i think they just got the numbers wrong
prolly didn't put much thought into it
I’d like to think it was at least a year maybe
yea i'd say a year at most
I’m confused, isn’t that what I just said?
idk bruh even in calling they talk abt the recall like it was pretty recent
i think the timeline is just 3 yrs off in game
there's one in game rn
check winston's inbox
What the timeline needs to answer is when is Murphy getting that croissant
Who was the founder of Overwatch? Winston or Sojourn?
it was founded by a group of ppl not just one person i think
Technically the UN as well the strike team
A woman called Gabrielle Adawe was key tho
General in the UN
Yes but we don't know the year the story takes place
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1030998366903078952/1139618917065691209/Screenshot_2023-08-11_124100.jpg Does anyone know the name of this hero is
they don't have a name
He looks like those guys from monsters inc ngl
it's an unused concept
What parts of sojourn are human??
muscles, some of her organs
Shoutout Bap, Hanzo, dva and Brig, no prosthetics or lost body parts gang 🙏
Kiriko and Lucio don't either
Ye forgot those two too
and Zarya
She has that dawg in her, she is on a different level
kiriko healing is back to trash 🫡
Ik, im saying she has to have that dawg in her to be that level
Underrated character tbh
Gives some of the best inspirational quotes
Love her and syms interactions
Both working for dodgy companies
tracer, sig, winston, hammond, illari(?)
JQ too
Tracer’s literally will disappear if she takes off that chest thingy, winston and Hammond are genetically altered, sigma has mental issues tbf
Jq I’ll let slide
Not illari sojourn compliments her augmentations
Illari has augments
Tracer can take it off, she just has to be in range of it
She can only use her powers with it on tho
That’s still a small handicap tbh
Tracer can take it off - it has a range
It’s still a prostetic of a sort
Isnt illari a bit cybornetic
True true
I thought Illari's augmentation was the sun threading, not prosthetics if that's what we're talking about?
Irrelevant but for two perfectionists who think they’re better than everyone, it’s weird that Moira and Sym don’t have any interactions at all
soldier?
Super soldier
If a human becomes 100% Cybernetics, will ram like the. Kinda how fucking sojourn is 90%
I mean
The altered thing
Reaper is in a constant state of dying and regeneration
Is kinda lol
If moira counts then so does reaper
Forgot Ashe lol
Yeah Reaper (Reyes) and Soldier were "enhanced" and Reaper has been experimented on since
Could ana get another cybernetic eye if she wanted to?
in Winston's computer
Ye, mercy tells her that but Ana says she keeps it as a reminder
it's the first file you get in the right-hand screen
Also cass how magic bullets during his ult bc he can shoot more than his clip without reloading
The power of yeehaw
i dont think revolvers have clips
ic
because it's a video game
Barrels?
Ik. But. Still.
barrels are like the thing the bullet come sout of
soldier 76
cylinder i think is where the vullets go when theyre loaded
How the hell does Pharah keep a thousand rockets in her suit 🤷 issa game
mercy has not augmentations
was barrage shown in pharahs comic i forget
invasion released right? i havent had power since monday
Shoutout to Cass tho, apart from his metal arm, he’s probably the one who doesn’t use super advanced tech in his kit
There are a good amount of overwatch people who are missing an eye. How come they didn't replace their eye?
It looks cool 🙂
I mean we know there is cybernetic eyes bc sojourn.
ana rein torb and um? Anyone else?
Fair
theres kinda hints about genjis eyes
Genji’s eyes are fine
his are scarred and a diff color in blackwatxh skin
You see them in the dragons cinematic
those could be fake
The power of being edgy
yea thats possible
Goth phase changes your eyes colour
I’d like to think they were. It’s heartwarming to think he wants to look at his brother with his own human eyes instead of fake artificial ones
Werent *
ashe bap brig dva hanzo jq junkrat(?) kiri lucio mei mercy pharah soldier sigma reaper tracer widow winston hammond zarya have no lost limbs or cybernetics iirc
oh yeah and hog i forgot aboht him
Widow and sigma brainwashed
junkrat is missing an arm, a leg and his pointer finger
oh yeah i sont know how i forgot that lol
Soldier and reaper supersoldiers and reaper has his genetic shit
Winston and Hammond generic altering
widow and sigma arent brainwashed
they're not
Widows entire thing is that she’s brainwashed
Widow chose to return to talon
Widowmaker returned to Talon willingly, and Sigma is being lied to
widow was made into like a sleeper agent but shes choosing to work with them now
Sombra has a line to Moira “you and jefe need to stop frying Sigma’s brain”
jefe?
Voice lines arent canon and she could just be referring to lying to him
And widow was brainwashed, the effects can wear off eventually, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen
Who uses the term “frying someone’s brain” in reference to lying?
its just described as “intense neural reconditioning” so dont know the details
not really
Is doomfist fearful of kirikos mom?
moira wouldnt have been working with talon at the time
“Did you tell your mum we’re going to a party” “nah bro I just did some intense neural reconditioning”
She has?
i think he says that in a voiceline?
reaper wouldnt have joined talon yet either
that was later
Ya thats why im asking
voicelines arent canon but they imply canon so maybe? We dont really know
Ya u can hear their weapons in the trailer
not at that tome
moira was in blackwatch before she was in talon
blackwatch fell after gerard died
moira wasnt involved with gerards killing because she hadnt joined talon yet
Reaper did not join talon before Moira
yeah
Where is that said that reaper joined talon before Moira did
Sigma is fucking tall and beefing dude
gerard was killed before overwatch fell so reaper and moira werent with talon yet
Moira keeps widow under conditioning, she may not have started the brainwashing but she defo helps with it
So moira wasnt involved with widows reconditioning
It’s heavily implied
why do you think that
He is 62 years old and can probably knock someone out with a haymaker
she was in overwatch when widow got kidnapped and reconditioned she wasnt involved
Voice lines and before you say “they’re not canon” I know that but voice lines are heavily representative of canon relationships
what voice lines
In game
Moira literally says to widow
When u choose specific characters together
“You seem distant Lacroix” and widow straight up says “By your design”
What other implication do you need
Sigma and sombra have that Dementia ridden relative and worried grandchild vibe
Pretty confirms Moira has a hand in widow’s condition
Frying someone’s brain implies shock therapy, used in brainwashing a lot for sigma
voice lines arent canon and “Talon’s geneticist, Moira O’Deorain, altered Amélie’s physiology to improve her aim, drastically slowing her heart, which turned her skin cold and blue, and numbed her ability to experience human emotion.“
Moira is a geneticist and she’s effed, there’s no reason why she wouldn’t be involved in brainwashing them
Bro did NOT read what I just said
i read what you said
I did you read the part where I said voice lines are heavily representative of canon relationships ?
In the dead of night, Talon operatives kidnapped Amélie and subjected her to an intense program of neural reconditioning, in effect creating a sleeper agent. This happened before moira joined
yeah it doenst matter
The “brainwashing” happened before moira joined talon
she couldht have been invovled because she wasnt in talon yet
And when did Moira join talon?
after overwatxh fell and after gerards death
How do you know that
Moira is a selfish woman with no allegiance to anyone but herself, how do you know she wasn’t working for talon and black watch at the same time
her lore specifically says she was subjected to "neural reconditioning"
They didnt have the brainwash sigma. They just needed to tell him lies and he will fall for it bc his mind was all over the place since the universe began playing Spotify in his head
“After Overwatch, O'Deorain was forced to turn to unconventional sources of funding“
Sombra asks Moira to stop “frying his brain”
she started workong for talon after overwatch fell
Isnt sombra doing it for the money
Something Moira would have expertise in
voice lines arent canon and nothing in sigmas bio mentions reconditioning or brainwashing
Or something. Idk much on why sombra working for talon
For her own personal gain, she doesn’t give af about talon
Bro
Did not read
What I said
They are representative of canon relationships
Ironically her voicelines imply that she worries for sigma
“You seem distant Lacroix” “By your design” what else do you need
Also his backstory doesnt really show that he was brainwashed. Probably pursuaded
actual canon evidence is what you need
Mainly bc they broke him out of what he probably thought was a prison
The Blackwatch Dossier said that the enforcers and heavy assaults are genetically augmented and the sniper appears in black smoke in her cutscene, huge red flags there
Which well it technically was
Sombras on her own team, Bap literally still asks her help when he’s looking for someone lol
Also she hung out with Cass on xmas
?
Being at the same bar doenst equal them hanging out
they were on opposite ends kf the bar and cassidy was like unconscious iirc we dont know if he even saw sombra there
the voice lines don't represent canon relationships
Bruh
That’s not what I mean
Obvs I don’t mean when Reaper talks to his old OW buddies like they’re still friends
they weren't hanging out at Christmas - like spider nor said, they were at opposite ends of the bar and Cassidy was passed out
The ones that represent relationships between characters and persoanlities
we can't confirm whether they know each other or not until we've seen them interact in the lore
definitely
i just checked the overwatch wiki
apparently there is 3 years between recall and zero hour
wow
atleast 10 days
i don't really get how they've split present day into 'first year, second year, third year' or how they figured out what goes where
ok guess everyone's 3 years older cool
Did the Children of the Sun ever work with Overwatch?
Just watched new origin story.. it was good
Overwatch universe better than MCU lately
Did not expect her to nuke her people
Was Peru affected by the Omnic crisis? They seem to be more solar powered
the whole world was affected
affected the whole world how?
omnics attacked humans everywhere
Mb
so she's responsible for the new omnic crisis?
Did PERU work with Overwatch
no
what timeline does this story place in?
no
the story is roughly 50 years in our future
this is 50 years after the present day?
lol are you talking about OW present day or OUR present day?
the present day of OW is about 50 years past our present day
oh okay.. but where in the timeline is this origin story if you know?
like is this before the first omnic crisis?
She seems pretty young
so after the first omnic crisis
ok... I'm just curious if characters are being released in correlation to what's going on in the overrall story
she doesn't seem to have any relevance to the current story
not plot wise but I'd assume how old she is in the game is how old she is in the current story
yes
ok cool then yeah the origin story would come down to how old she is
my guess is she's 18-19
yeah that's how old she looks.. unless whatever sun practice/technology they had going on affected their aging which I doubt
not likely
this is her first mention right, in all the OW lore
yeah but I think didn't Sojourn have mentions before her release?
Sojourn, Junker Queen and Ramattra were all characters in the lore before their release
oh okay cool
if she's from Peru maybe her story will cross over with Lucio or something
lucios in brazil i thought?
I’ve been away from the Internet for 3 weeks so if someone could fill me in on what happened that would be very much appreciated. Thanks!
Calling, Illari, Invasion
How did Overwatch get her, because if u hear her voice lines she seems like she needs no help
Calling?
That was a confusing cinematic
Sojourn got her own cinematic
New season released yesterday
And the new character is a support who wields solar power
she's probably not immediately associated with the actual OW team
true but that seems to be the way with the last two characters, Lifeweaver wanted to explore the world alone and bring peace, but instead he works for OW and causes more chaos. Ramattra is trying to rid all humanity and make room for omnics, and Null Sector
I can see how Kiriko ties in with OW cuz she is part of the Shimada family
she definitely will have an association eventually
is there anything that i should know before starting PvE?
i don't exactly know the lore so i'm kinda scared of starting without knowing much
maybe just watch zero hour and the new sojourn animated short
here's what you need to catch up on each mission
Rio: Zero Hour (animated short), New Blood (comic)
Toronto: Calling (animated short)
Gothenburg: Binary (comic)
Underworld: London Calling (comic)
i have to watch those?
if you want to understand the lore
new blood is also 5 issues btw
yes
what does that mean?
it's a 5 part comic
I was just saying one of them is 5 parts yeah
London Calling is too
I haven't read that one yet
For some reason I think Illari and symmetra are going to get along not because of thier gadget similarity but because they sorta have the same tech
it's honestly not great, but it introduces Iggy
I generally don't read the comics but I read new blood cause i heard its good
also do you guys know around what season we're getting more missions?
nope
i always loved overwatch and was always excited for pve
ah
honestly we could've done without the whole pve cancellation announcement cause I'm actually quite happy with this
so long as it comes often enough
and Idk if this was planned but I like how OW1 and OW2 is divided from a lore perspective
wait if ow2 happened 3 years after recall. wtf happened in those 3 years
dunno
zero hour is 3 years after the recall?
I'm making a character concept piece for, maybe a potential character. His name is Marco (Mirage)Di Giovanni. He is Italian and one of his abilities in his kit is called, Smoke and Mirror. A floating drone fly's up in the air to cast illusions of himself among fights to confuse the enemy team.
either it's 3 years between Recall and Zero Hour, or 3 years between Zero Hour and the Invasion missions
I was thinking for his Ult to be able to copy any of the enemy team's players, but I remebered Echo
it probably makes more sense for the 3 years to be after zero hour since it wasn't obvious for Sojourn the strange attacks were all connected
but idrk
yeah
that's my guess too
because I've worked out the timeline between Recall and Zero Hour and making it 3 years screws everything up
can't some of the comics fill in what they've been up to in between
like Cass recruiting people
New Blood starts after Cassidy rescued Echo from Ashe, and ends just after Zero Hour
no way he was searching for people for 3 years
yeah if that's the case then def not lol
her culture uses a process called solar threading to implant cybernetic threads that allowe her to capture and harness solar power
Sounds painful
i found an interview of jeff kaplan saying overwatch 2 takes place 1 year after recall
guess it's not 3 yrs then
i think the uprising date should say 8 years ago instead of 10
or Jeff Kaplan was wrong
probably changed it
the version published in the game is correct
ramattra will liberate earth
i just finished the first mission
i'm speechless somehow lol
thought the missions were longer but it's fine
The first was pretty short
I just finished the first mission and I ask
Does the sojourn cinematic take place right after rio?
Where is all the lore in underworld? I got the music, Mondatta, Lucio and wall one
I'm missing one
there's two on the walls
one that's anti-omnic grafitti, one that's the sign for the Underworld
What are everyone's thoughts on Illari's origin story?
I like it
I do see the similarities to Mei except it's heavier on Illari
I also realized it's pronounced Iyari as it would be in Spanish lol
Shambali Monastery I believe
Or maybe harnessed
But then again, Sigma seems to have seen the Iris when harnessing the black hole
So prob not harnessable
her name is quecha not spanish
seems to be pronounced more like illyari
Imagine if null sector attacked the Shambali Monastery
I just realized, If Echo ever becomes a playable hero in one of the story missions how would her ult work
Aurora just be like "I gave you sentience, I can take it back".
she is in fact playable in one of the story missions
Interesting
She copies teammates
Illari is pronounced like "ee-ya-ri" but you kind of swallow the first syllable, the "ya" is hard almost but not quite an english "j" sound, and then you have to make the "ri" more with your teeth and tongue rather than your lips like with american english
eelyari
Someone wanna be friends and play games like ow2,valo,cs dm me
i wont be surprised cuz on the nepal maps genji says that he's sad that this place is in danger, could be foreshadowing an attack there
i recorded it here ^^
Have you played the new missions?
If a new one came out today then no :/
Ah because I didn’t wanna spoil anything incase yoy haven’t
Idc about spoilers
Did you see the zen cutscene then?
Where talon surrounds him
Probably not Null Sector, but Talon
Yeah NS doesn’t attack omnics
unclear, but i imagine that's what subjugating eventually does
As of now we just see them immobilized
rammatra wouldnt do that, my boy stay loyal.
Exaclty
He may be a murderer but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have dignity
yesss
LOVE the fact that they gave us a cliff hanger for the last mission! excited to not remember it in 2-3 months!!!!!!
winton
overwat
zenbaty
Itll be more than that. The next PvE is 2024.
awesome
zen got 2 min of screentime it was all worth it 🗣️🗣️‼️🤑
it kind of was I mean I'm hyped for that mission already
no seriously like I was worried the pve lore would only cover the main OW characters from zero hour
also hoping for some more sombra in the next mission drop
but mainly zen bc they're finally giving him cinematic screentime
Fun thought. Wonder how Zenyatta will react once he finds out that it was Widowmaker who killed Mondatta
id assume it's already common knowledge tho
im assuming they're gonna try to capture him and fail, leading to the mission with him and genji on suravasa
im more wondering how he'll react to ram leading null sector, even in the noncanon pvp interactions I feel like he doesnt know that yet
It’s not common knowledge if I remember. The public doesn’t know who killed Mondatta
Only that it was an unidentified assailant
idk but a lot of it I think we can assume based on stuff we already know from other lore
like bap being ex-talon being redacted
Tracer knows it was Widowmaker and Talon, but it’s not like she can go public with this knowledge
They’d arrest her for violating the Petras Act if she did
even if it isnt public something tells me zen would know just because tbh
I wonder if the next batch is finally gonna give us more on sombra and whoever she's been after, maybe she'll finally double cross talon
some of the lore we got with this first batch suggest someone besides ram and maybe even doom is having some influence over what null sector had been doing, maybe its the same person sombra has been hunting
or I could be overanalyzing and this batch lore is just leading up to ow finding out null sector is working with talon
How old is Illari?
I just watched the calling short, I am just confused about one thing. why was that agent gonna arrest sojourn?
Because she is breaking the Petra’s Act that forbid all old Overwatch agent to do vigilantism
oh yeah, makes sense
sigma best origin story, not up for debate
I think not
was tracer still fighting when overwatch disbanded
She continued her work as a vigilante in London yeah
no😭
I think most overwatch members continued fighting
Maybe except torb
You guys remeber how i was talking abt making the character Mirage, the guy that can cast illusions, for OW
Well i added a new ability for his kit. It's called, the Human Shield, it will act like a shield for his teammates, and basically he sends an illusion in front of his teammates if they are low or whatever and will block any attacks shot at them. But to make it balanced, sort of, it can not block any explosives or anything u have to throw 🙂
how the hell does an illusion block
isnt sym like the illusionist alr
So is lifeweaver
But Mirage is not part of Vishkar
He is kinda like sombra, backstory wise.
he is literally just insane I think
Any clues on the data breach traces mentioned under brigs journal?
U guys got shouted out
is anas a-7000 wargod skin canon?
possibly
Absolutely, the battle pass theme also KINDDAAAA takes time during the onmic crisis so I can’t see why it isn’t canon at all
oh welp..
OK BUT HEAR ME OUT-
LISTENLISTEN
her voicelines are supposed to glitch when she is upset and stay normal when she is just talking right
so why when she kills soilder, pharah, rein, etc. Her voice starts to glitches
they made her like a sentiment Ana killing her friends
IM SO SMART 😊😊
Her killing pharah voiceline is 😔😔
Is there any lore about How bastion like found torb
I think in the comics Torbjorn was sent to hunt down Bastion and kill him because he was seen in the countryside around a town.
Binary comic explains it
And Torbjorn obviously with his strong hate/distrust of omnics
Tldr
Now thats explains his new clean model thanks guys
My… daughter?
So is she a seprate robot, or did she turn into it herself
Separate
Alr
It’s a replication of Ana’s consciousness
No they just wanted to copy strong people
she's a robot
Erm…
Always a pleasure doc
But that doesn't answer my question
When did Mina create Echo?
He wanna f*** her???
Where would someone even do that?

At the end of the final Invasion cutscene, is Widowmaker saying "We found him" to someone else on comms, referring to Zenyatta (they found Zenyatta), or is she speaking to Zenyatta, saying "We found him", referring to another character?
At first I thought it was the former, but I wasn't so sure after reading a YouTube comment that interpreted it the latter way.
I'm sorry,WHAT?
prob doomfist because ramattra loyal af
Ramattra could have sent them to find Zenyatta and bring him to safety
yea,but its TALON
ok,and? They killed Mondatta,Why can't they kill Zenyatta too?
why would they?
Mondatta was a well known public figure
he was assassinated to create more tension between humans and omnics
Zenyatta is nobody
Exactly my point! If they kill Zenyatta then Rammatra will have more things against humans with means ✨ WAR✨ Who wants war? Doomfist.
Zenyatta is a somebody to Rammatra
Ramattra is already going to war against humans
do you think every hero will make an appearance in the pve in the future
he doesn't need more motivation
including weaver and illari
no
maybe not to play, becuase it'd be weird playing the bad guys
but atleast in the cinematics
like sombra and widow did at the end of mission 3
What if he just wants to stir the pot?
Zenyatta is Ramattra's close friend - he would want to protect him from the war
so, he asks Doomfist to send Talon agents to capture him
Why talon?
Well ig they took Widowmaker
because they're allies
Yeah why couldn't they just send a message to OverWatch, secret anonymous
Ramattra is working with Talon, as we saw at the end of Storm Rising
Considering Zen is part of OW it would be easier
Oh
Zen isn't part of OW
hes not but he does have a link there
Do u think Ramattra is going to get a skin for talon considering all the other members got one

Genji shows up with Overwatch to protect him
yea
Now that's why they didnt try to kill him!!
Hes standing😱
wheres that early footage from?
hes meditating while he's fighting?
So he meditates while fighting?? xD
Blizzconline 2021
OMGGG
the game isn't canon
Gotcha
ok i was confused
idk how to feel about them taking that long
game development takes a long time
it can take years to get a full game out
I'd rather let them take a long time than have it rushed and end up being bad
I dont know why but for some reason i feel like orisa should have been in one of the missions in Nubani. I dont know why she just seems like the perfect one to fight omnics
i wonder how the team members being replaced over time affects the lore
didnt the original writer leave years ago?
they mustve had a lot of possible lore in their head
Imagine there was a lore of twin heroes??? They could be released at the same time!
I dont understand Illari's origin story. How come they didnt know abt her TRUE powers before they used her in that solar machine??
yea
twin heroes would be cool
ikr right!
Ye!
assuming invasion isnt a failure and they continue the storyline
where do you guys think itll go
Overwatch fights Talon and Null Sector, defeats Ramattra, Doomfist gets away, a new threat shows up
I still think in the end it'll go back to Volskaya
Prob going to save Zenyatta,then they go around the world fighting onmics, I don't know is it going to be some Power Rangers knockoff? we'll never know untill 2024.
whats important about volskaya?
Volskaya created most of Null Sector im pretty sure
i wonder where null sector hq is
THEN WTF WAS THE INFILTRATION CINEMATIC ABT BESIDES SOMBRA????
Ramattra is operating out of an omnium in Antarctica
Idk I didn’t pay 15.60
wtf?
Talon wanted to assassinate Katya Volskaya because she wouldn't cooperate with them
But the robots they showed? Weren't they NS?
no
Ooooh
He even made ships with an omnium ?
if they nuke antartica wouldnt that kill off the planet or smth
Im just being sgupid rn but wouldnt it be cool if Mina Lao the creator of Echo was ressurected by mercy and she made more like Echo to help fight NS?
wait is that why australia in ow universe is full of radiation
Mercy can't resurrect people
from them nuking those robot factories?
No that's just in game
You even can't resurrect an omnic
they sabotaged the omnium in the outback, causing it to explode and leak radiation
it's a common misunderstanding
But that's all
mhm 🙂
is there a lore reason why reinhardt is huge?
this is what "resurrect" looks like - just a burst of healing to someone who is badly injured
He’s just buff
And the armor
he looks like hes twice the size of a normal human
he's just big
Do you think the new threat will be related to NS or the Omnics?
that or torb in the cutscene is a smurf
And I'm asking why JQ is huge
I think it’s
Ingame it’s sigma im pretty sure
@peak escarp How did the shimada clan tie in with OW?
In lore I think it’s primal form winston with good posture
Overwatch saved genji
And I think
the Shimada clan were a criminal empire that dealt in weapons, so Overwatch had them under surveillance
that's the Hashimoto clan
I forgot their name
they took over the Shimada territory
theyve gotta release a hashimoto character for the game then
J doubt
What we’ve seen so far from the hasimoto is they’re just yakuza basically
Guy with guns
Genji's bio in the game has some detail on the Shimada clan
And Japan already has 3 heroes
Adding another one would be
Greedy? For lack of better words
How come OW doesnt take care of them considering they (nearly) killed a cute old man😭
because OW is busy dealing with Null Sector
Ow has like 17 members rn
Does it have all the characters lore? If so pull up sombras🤩
They don’t have time to deal with all the world sffsurs
Nope
Only is so far
Ow
only the Overwatch members have bios in the game
dang
Sombra will probably get one in the next batch
Okay pull up Mercy!
since she's an enemy
pull up lucio!
Sombras lore is basically using talon, being friends with Baptiste and a couple others and being a provocative gaslighter
hold on
She like most after the Omnic Crisis was used its not her fault. But ig she still hacked government.
✨ gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss✨
Ty
Next PVE batch is talon so I’m excite
Lucio's is pretty short
Im also so excited for hee vishkar missions
Whos Anubis?
Any scrape of lifeweaver lore
The ai that caused omnic crisis
Anubis is the god program that took control of the omnics and caused the omnic crisis
It was a ai that turned omnics against humans
It was locked away in Cairo
It was shown in the genesis comics but it’s basically a mummy tomb with a Anubis head
Why did they make Émile LaCroix a sleeper agent just to kill her husband? Couldnt talon kill Gerald themselves??
AI caused a crisis for ai?
So they did anelie route
It’s like a god program like d6 said
they have to get someone to do dirty work for them
It basically started controlling omnics
How was it made?
Still doesnt add up by that time they alr had recruits
The blackwatch mission was to get revenge on talon after theh almost killed gerald in a attack
Yeah but they bad so they got to go with the wife route
they tried to kill him several times but failed
using his wife was just another attempt
Lol
Not exactly but reaper wanted revenge badicallt
one that finally succeeded
I don’t think it was explained
Probably alongside the other omnics
why did hanzo kill genji?
DO you think Maximillian will ever show up again?
Genji wanted to be a playboy, hanzo wanted him to grow up to rule the family empire
yes
He’s been confirmed to show up
In the talon mission/cinemayic/cutscene in circuit royale doomfist and him talk
Cuz the shimada clan jealous (jk) actually they didn't like what Genji was doing so the leaders of the Shimada clan told Hanzo to kill him.
dumb reason to kill genji
Idk if yall watch him but BROYOUWACK said he was but it ended up being Illari
entire clan was ok with hanzo killing genji?
After their father died, the clan wanted hanzo to talk to his brother because he was a playboy and wasent serious about the family affsirs
This led to a fight
Genji was not worthy to lead im pretty sure
ive played a few of the yakuza games
idk if theyre realistic
if hanzo was head of the clan he has final say
Did mercy and moira ever work together?
yea
I feel like they would've
i think
No
Barely anyone in overwatch knew moira was in blackwatch
This would likely include mercy
Hanzo didn’t want to kill genji likely, it just went to far
Also hanzo was still relatively young
He was impressionable
OMG I JUST THOUGHT OF A CHARACTER THAT COULD BE A NEW HERO (this is a joke so dont take this so har)
But Efi!
Hanzo was about 27 at the time
The Nubani girl
Efi is like
Genji was 23
8
That’s not legal at all I’m pretty sure
- what’s the point of efi being a hero when orisa is?
if genjis entire body is a robot now
Efi is 11, they're not going to make her a playable hero
didnt he technically stop aging
No like they could jump a few years
That’s not gonna happen
Idk i said it was a joke so lets drop it pls
they'd have to jump a lot of years
They aren’t gonna retcon efi or time jump overwatxh just for a hero
OKAY OKAY IM SORRY😭
his human parts still age
He’s a cyborg
In the dragons cinemayic you can see parts of his disgusting old unwashed face
im guessing hanzo doesnt know genji is alive yet in the story
Is Ana better than doomfist?
He does
Does Mercy age????
Yes
He does
everyone ages
Like more criminal
Watch the dragons cinemayic
Can she die?
Oh no
Yeah
Everyone can die
Doomfist is the leader of the worlds second biggest terrorist organisation
There's not immortality
Ana is jusg a vigilante
But mercy can-nvm
Mercy can die
wait how old is soldier 76 and reaper?
Mercy can’t resurrect in lord
and reinhardt?
late 50s
58 and 59
No but she could heal
Healing dosent mean not aging
Reaper is 58, and we don't have a confirmed age for Soldier
Whos the oldest?
theyre built like olympians
they must be on steroids
😮
Fr
61
Reaper and soldier were in the soldier enhancement program
That’s why they’re so physically strong
Reinhardt is just strong because he lifts a lot
Like super serum frlm Marvel?
Yes
What does b.o.b stand for? Big Omnic Butler?
I think so
0_0
Exactly
👍
Overwatch designs aren’t supposed to be realistic, they’re supposed to look good, of course a 61 year old wouldent look like reinhardt
Maybe he’s lifting to experience gravity more
They did Roadhog dirty XD
idk moira looks old
Cassidy?
ashe looks young
the art style is very stylized
Cassidy is 37
everyone looks younger
I think
hes Only controlling that okay, my girl has espionage, assault, stealing, her bounty's higher than Cassidy's, she ran from the police with 76, She actually kidnaps someone, and she drugs 76 tea and he didn't wake up for two days (almost a kidnapping situation) and also violates the Petras Act multiple times
👍
cassidy looks 37
...what?
You do know talon is a terrorist organisation that murders, kidnaps, does fraud, hack and do all this to world leaders
Right?
Ana is just a vigilante
Are Ashe and Sombra friends 👉👈
Yeah but they ain't going to catch him
We don’t know
as far as we know they haven't met
I don’t get it, your question was “is Ana more of a criminal then doomfist”?
You can't charge you who you can't see
im guessing reinhardts crusader armor greatly enhances his strength
Doomfist isn’t a secret
based off the cinematic
He literally gets out there to fight
Orisa is heavily modified
But have they charged him?
She has new tech
Doomfist was in prison for 4 years
Yeah he’s charged with a bunch of stuff they just haven’t captured him after he escaped
really?
Yes
also how did doomfist punch his way out of prison without the gauntlet
my bad
he has a cybernetic arm
He’s extremely strong + in lore reaper helped him
How? In the anime thingy he wasnt even there
where does reaper get his shotguns from?
We don’t know
The anime cinemayic was made to look cool
its the little thing that bother me
In the comics somethings are different
ok
There’s a reaper emote that shows he has a bunch of shotguns hidden in his coat
In april@fools mode when he died he also spawned a bunch of shotguns
A- You still have contact of Los Muertos S- I might. What's in it for me? A- I'd offer you money, but i dont hink that's what you're looking for. S- So... any good Cowboy stories?
voice lines don't represent canon conversations or relationships
they're hypothetical
Alr gotcha
like playing with action figures
Lol ok
Talking about lore
Lw lore soon 🙏
Also the new hero isn’t connected to anyone we know yet
Interesting
Hope she gets a short story soon
More abt him and Sym maybe...
Confirmed to happen
There’s gonna be a heroes ascendant comics releasing in March 10th
Yea whats her deal why is she part of OW
No i meant in the game
She sun nuked her own village
is lifeweaver friends or enemies with any of the characters?
In game she’s still a loner
Sym and him were roomates in Vishkar
Friends with sym, enemies of vishkar
She got saucy interaction lines with characters tho 0_0
Interactions aren’t canon
wth?
No im just pointing out that her voice lines are savage
?
I’m gonna go sleep
Good night!
bye!
If you have any last questions say it rq I’ll respond
What is the backstory of Orisa
She was made out of destroyed or-15 robots (made to defend numbani) after the attack on the numbani airport by doomfist, efi rebuilt her and gave her new tech to protect the city
New tech being the javelin and fortify
Oh so thats why efi gets along with her
Bye
The new support is kind like the sunflower from pvz, ik it's not lore related but still
i see it
New Orisa ult: summons Efi to the battlefield
*Efi with a shotgun
yess
i dont think i said no?
....
NOT U NVM
SORRY
AHHHH
🤩👈
efi is, regretfully, like 12
She had too much power for the machine to handle
And yes
😔
Is ana dead in the invasion lore? Bc. I think its like nulsector catchet ana to steal parts of her personality and killed her after that sorry for bad english btw.
No they just took what she knows and put it into a robotic machine
Ana is fine
Do you guys think they (devs) should stop messing with Mercy's damage boost? She's not fun anymore
thats not lore but yes
Then who's Vincent
soldier is gay
Dawg, I hate to break it to you…
Oh yeah, just like Charlie and Vaggie are sisters
I thought he wasn’t straight
he isnt
People are just trolling
Yup
Read the short story Baset
Blizzard Entertainment confirmed Monday that “Overwatch” character Soldier: 76 is now the second LGBTQ+ character in the game’s universe.
Until this week, Blizzard has kept mum on anything regarding Soldier: 76’s personal life in the lore surrounding the game. When contacted for comment, a Blizzard Entertainment rep directed Variety to Michael Chu’s Twitter account, which confirmed that Jack and Vincent were in a “romantic relationship” many years ago. “Both identify as gay,” Chu confirmed.
A rep also told Variety: “Yes, Soldier: 76 (aka Jack Morrison) identifies as LGBT. It was revealed in our latest short story, ‘Bastet,’ that Jack had a male love interest named Vincent.”
The character, whose real name is Jack Morrison, appears in a new short story called “Bastet,” which features the character Ana. The former sniper finds a wounded Soldier: 76 while wandering the streets of Cairo and takes him to her hideout to recuperate.
Bro click the link -_-
ya'll are wierd in the head. I don't wanna use any other word in case you guys are seven year olds learning homophobia from your parents
ikr
He left XD
Disappearing trick
lol
I was trying to tell them
sorry
Did Angela really wanna become Mercy, because her parents joined to help medically with the Omnic Crisis, so maybe she was pressured?
she wanted to help people
Maybe that was her parents dream
So Vigilante Sojourn is canon
yes
I wonder if Rein had a vigilante stage in his life
it's kind of like soldiers situation
her parents were killed bc of the crisis, so she wanted to help others
Ah yes
hes too nice :3
yea
Reaper is canonically a ghost
Cass says "Jack Morrison is out chasing ghosts"
lore
Did Moira help Ana with her rifle bc the same healing stuff moira uses looks spot on to what is in Ana's rifle
🤔
where is that said

