#lore-discussion

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peak escarp
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yes the ages would be updated

pastel stirrup
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imma be honest i think they just got the numbers wrong

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prolly didn't put much thought into it

eager summit
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I’d like to think it was at least a year maybe

pastel stirrup
peak escarp
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she arrived in Gibraltar before Zero Hour

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it didn't take her 3 years to get there

eager summit
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I’m confused, isn’t that what I just said?

twilit patrol
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There's something that pisses me off

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When will we have a damn timeline ?

pastel stirrup
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idk bruh even in calling they talk abt the recall like it was pretty recent

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i think the timeline is just 3 yrs off in game

pastel stirrup
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check winston's inbox

eager summit
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What the timeline needs to answer is when is Murphy getting that croissant

paper ocean
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Who was the founder of Overwatch? Winston or Sojourn?

pastel stirrup
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it was founded by a group of ppl not just one person i think

eager summit
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Technically the UN as well the strike team

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A woman called Gabrielle Adawe was key tho

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General in the UN

twilit patrol
peak escarp
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does it matter what the year is?

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it's somewhere around 2080

trim dock
peak escarp
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they don't have a name

paper ocean
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He looks like those guys from monsters inc ngl

peak escarp
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it's an unused concept

eager summit
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Robotics and sentience confuses me in OW

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Like Sojourn more machine than genji?

peak escarp
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Sojourn and Genji are both cyborgs

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they were born human

eager summit
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What parts of sojourn are human??

peak escarp
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muscles, some of her organs

eager summit
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Shoutout Bap, Hanzo, dva and Brig, no prosthetics or lost body parts gang 🙏

peak escarp
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Kiriko and Lucio don't either

eager summit
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Ye forgot those two too

peak escarp
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and Zarya

eager summit
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She has that dawg in her, she is on a different level

peak escarp
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she's all natural though

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have to be to compete in weightlifting

worthy rose
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kiriko healing is back to trash 🫡

eager summit
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Ik, im saying she has to have that dawg in her to be that level

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Underrated character tbh

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Gives some of the best inspirational quotes

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Love her and syms interactions

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Both working for dodgy companies

pastel stirrup
peak escarp
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JQ too

eager summit
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Jq I’ll let slide

merry mason
eager summit
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Illari has augments

lavish vessel
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She can only use her powers with it on tho

eager summit
peak escarp
merry mason
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It’s still a prostetic of a sort

chrome plover
lavish vessel
spare fox
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I thought Illari's augmentation was the sun threading, not prosthetics if that's what we're talking about?

eager summit
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Irrelevant but for two perfectionists who think they’re better than everyone, it’s weird that Moira and Sym don’t have any interactions at all

rare trail
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soldier?

eager summit
chrome plover
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If a human becomes 100% Cybernetics, will ram like the. Kinda how fucking sojourn is 90%

rare trail
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reaper kinda? Theyre altered but no prosthetics i think

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pharah

eager summit
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The altered thing

chrome plover
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Reaper is in a constant state of dying and regeneration

eager summit
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Is kinda lol

chrome plover
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If moira counts then so does reaper

eager summit
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Forgot Ashe lol

spare fox
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Yeah Reaper (Reyes) and Soldier were "enhanced" and Reaper has been experimented on since

rare trail
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Could ana get another cybernetic eye if she wanted to?

peak escarp
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in Winston's computer

eager summit
peak escarp
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it's the first file you get in the right-hand screen

chrome plover
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Also cass how magic bullets during his ult bc he can shoot more than his clip without reloading

rare trail
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i dont think revolvers have clips

chrome plover
chrome plover
rare trail
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barrels are like the thing the bullet come sout of

pastel stirrup
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soldier 76

rare trail
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cylinder i think is where the vullets go when theyre loaded

eager summit
rare trail
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mercy has not augmentations

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was barrage shown in pharahs comic i forget

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invasion released right? i havent had power since monday

eager summit
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Shoutout to Cass tho, apart from his metal arm, he’s probably the one who doesn’t use super advanced tech in his kit

chrome plover
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There are a good amount of overwatch people who are missing an eye. How come they didn't replace their eye?

chrome plover
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I mean we know there is cybernetic eyes bc sojourn.

rare trail
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ana rein torb and um? Anyone else?

chrome plover
rare trail
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theres kinda hints about genjis eyes

eager summit
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Genji’s eyes are fine

rare trail
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his are scarred and a diff color in blackwatxh skin

eager summit
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You see them in the dragons cinematic

rare trail
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those could be fake

eager summit
rare trail
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yea thats possible

eager summit
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Goth phase changes your eyes colour

chrome plover
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Reaper is in a constant stage of gothness

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Or whatever tf

eager summit
# rare trail those could be fake

I’d like to think they were. It’s heartwarming to think he wants to look at his brother with his own human eyes instead of fake artificial ones

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Werent *

rare trail
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ashe bap brig dva hanzo jq junkrat(?) kiri lucio mei mercy pharah soldier sigma reaper tracer widow winston hammond zarya have no lost limbs or cybernetics iirc

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oh yeah and hog i forgot aboht him

eager summit
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Widow and sigma brainwashed

peak escarp
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junkrat is missing an arm, a leg and his pointer finger

rare trail
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oh yeah i sont know how i forgot that lol

eager summit
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Soldier and reaper supersoldiers and reaper has his genetic shit

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Winston and Hammond generic altering

rare trail
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widow and sigma arent brainwashed

eager summit
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Bruh

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What

peak escarp
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they're not

eager summit
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Widows entire thing is that she’s brainwashed

rare trail
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Widow chose to return to talon

peak escarp
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Widowmaker returned to Talon willingly, and Sigma is being lied to

rare trail
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widow was made into like a sleeper agent but shes choosing to work with them now

eager summit
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Sombra has a line to Moira “you and jefe need to stop frying Sigma’s brain”

rare trail
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jefe?

eager summit
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Spanish for boss

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Doomfist

rare trail
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Voice lines arent canon and she could just be referring to lying to him

eager summit
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And widow was brainwashed, the effects can wear off eventually, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen

eager summit
rare trail
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its just described as “intense neural reconditioning” so dont know the details

eager summit
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Bruh

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That literally means brainwashing

rare trail
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not really

eager summit
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Moira is a geneticist

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It’s obvs

chrome plover
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Is doomfist fearful of kirikos mom?

rare trail
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moira wouldnt have been working with talon at the time

eager summit
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“Did you tell your mum we’re going to a party” “nah bro I just did some intense neural reconditioning”

rare trail
eager summit
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She joined the same time reaper did

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Reaper helped break out sigma

rare trail
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reaper wouldnt have joined talon yet either

eager summit
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Bruh

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Reaper and widow literally broke sigma out

rare trail
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that was later

chrome plover
eager summit
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And Moira was a part of talon

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She’s literally a part of their council

rare trail
chrome plover
rare trail
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moira was in blackwatch before she was in talon

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blackwatch fell after gerard died

eager summit
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It fell after the retribution mission

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As did Overwatch

rare trail
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moira wasnt involved with gerards killing because she hadnt joined talon yet

eager summit
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Reaper did not join talon before Moira

rare trail
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yeah

eager summit
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Where is that said that reaper joined talon before Moira did

rare trail
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he didnt

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reaper wasnt working with talon when gerard was killed

eager summit
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I Never Said he did????

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I’ve not mentioned Gerard once

rare trail
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yeah?

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gerard is widows husband

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or was

chrome plover
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Sigma is fucking tall and beefing dude

rare trail
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gerard was killed before overwatch fell so reaper and moira werent with talon yet

eager summit
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Moira keeps widow under conditioning, she may not have started the brainwashing but she defo helps with it

rare trail
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So moira wasnt involved with widows reconditioning

eager summit
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It’s heavily implied

chrome plover
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He is 62 years old and can probably knock someone out with a haymaker

rare trail
eager summit
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Voice lines and before you say “they’re not canon” I know that but voice lines are heavily representative of canon relationships

rare trail
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what voice lines

chrome plover
eager summit
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Moira literally says to widow

chrome plover
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When u choose specific characters together

eager summit
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“You seem distant Lacroix” and widow straight up says “By your design”

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What other implication do you need

chrome plover
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Sigma and sombra have that Dementia ridden relative and worried grandchild vibe

eager summit
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Pretty confirms Moira has a hand in widow’s condition

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Frying someone’s brain implies shock therapy, used in brainwashing a lot for sigma

rare trail
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voice lines arent canon and “Talon’s geneticist, Moira O’Deorain, altered Amélie’s physiology to improve her aim, drastically slowing her heart, which turned her skin cold and blue, and numbed her ability to experience human emotion.“

eager summit
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Moira is a geneticist and she’s effed, there’s no reason why she wouldn’t be involved in brainwashing them

eager summit
rare trail
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i read what you said

eager summit
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I did you read the part where I said voice lines are heavily representative of canon relationships ?

rare trail
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In the dead of night, Talon operatives kidnapped Amélie and subjected her to an intense program of neural reconditioning, in effect creating a sleeper agent. This happened before moira joined

eager summit
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Lol ok then

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Not a very understanding conversation I guess

rare trail
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The “brainwashing” happened before moira joined talon

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she couldht have been invovled because she wasnt in talon yet

eager summit
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And when did Moira join talon?

rare trail
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after overwatxh fell and after gerards death

eager summit
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How do you know that

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Moira is a selfish woman with no allegiance to anyone but herself, how do you know she wasn’t working for talon and black watch at the same time

spare fox
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her lore specifically says she was subjected to "neural reconditioning"

chrome plover
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They didnt have the brainwash sigma. They just needed to tell him lies and he will fall for it bc his mind was all over the place since the universe began playing Spotify in his head

rare trail
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“After Overwatch, O'Deorain was forced to turn to unconventional sources of funding“

eager summit
rare trail
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she started workong for talon after overwatch fell

chrome plover
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Isnt sombra doing it for the money

eager summit
rare trail
chrome plover
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Or something. Idk much on why sombra working for talon

eager summit
eager summit
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Did not read

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What I said

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They are representative of canon relationships

chrome plover
eager summit
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“You seem distant Lacroix” “By your design” what else do you need

chrome plover
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Also his backstory doesnt really show that he was brainwashed. Probably pursuaded

rare trail
chrome plover
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Mainly bc they broke him out of what he probably thought was a prison

rain shoal
chrome plover
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Which well it technically was

eager summit
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Also she hung out with Cass on xmas

rare trail
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?

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Being at the same bar doenst equal them hanging out

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they were on opposite ends kf the bar and cassidy was like unconscious iirc we dont know if he even saw sombra there

eager summit
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I mean the voice lines that represent canon say otherwise 😉

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Writers say so

peak escarp
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the voice lines don't represent canon relationships

eager summit
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They do

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The writers have said so

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A majority of them do

peak escarp
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Ramattra and Baptiste have an interaction

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they've never met

eager summit
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Bruh

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That’s not what I mean

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Obvs I don’t mean when Reaper talks to his old OW buddies like they’re still friends

peak escarp
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they weren't hanging out at Christmas - like spider nor said, they were at opposite ends of the bar and Cassidy was passed out

eager summit
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The ones that represent relationships between characters and persoanlities

peak escarp
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we can't confirm whether they know each other or not until we've seen them interact in the lore

eager summit
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Fair

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She’s most likely aware of him tho

peak escarp
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definitely

pastel stirrup
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i just checked the overwatch wiki

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apparently there is 3 years between recall and zero hour

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wow

trim cradle
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atleast 10 days

pastel stirrup
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i don't really get how they've split present day into 'first year, second year, third year' or how they figured out what goes where

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ok guess everyone's 3 years older cool

glacial zinc
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Did the Children of the Sun ever work with Overwatch?

sly kettle
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Just watched new origin story.. it was good

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Overwatch universe better than MCU lately

glacial zinc
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Did not expect her to nuke her people

glacial zinc
# peak escarp no

Was Peru affected by the Omnic crisis? They seem to be more solar powered

peak escarp
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the whole world was affected

sly kettle
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affected the whole world how?

peak escarp
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omnics attacked humans everywhere

glacial zinc
sly kettle
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so she's responsible for the new omnic crisis?

glacial zinc
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Did PERU work with Overwatch

sly kettle
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what timeline does this story place in?

peak escarp
peak escarp
sly kettle
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this is 50 years after the present day?

peak escarp
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yes

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the year in Overwatch is something like 2079

sly kettle
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lol are you talking about OW present day or OUR present day?

peak escarp
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the present day of OW is about 50 years past our present day

sly kettle
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oh okay.. but where in the timeline is this origin story if you know?

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like is this before the first omnic crisis?

peak escarp
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we don't know how old Illari is

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she's quite young

glacial zinc
peak escarp
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so after the first omnic crisis

sly kettle
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ok... I'm just curious if characters are being released in correlation to what's going on in the overrall story

peak escarp
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she doesn't seem to have any relevance to the current story

sly kettle
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not plot wise but I'd assume how old she is in the game is how old she is in the current story

peak escarp
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yes

sly kettle
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ok cool then yeah the origin story would come down to how old she is

peak escarp
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my guess is she's 18-19

sly kettle
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yeah that's how old she looks.. unless whatever sun practice/technology they had going on affected their aging which I doubt

peak escarp
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not likely

sly kettle
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this is her first mention right, in all the OW lore

peak escarp
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yes

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she's a new character

sly kettle
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yeah but I think didn't Sojourn have mentions before her release?

peak escarp
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Sojourn, Junker Queen and Ramattra were all characters in the lore before their release

sly kettle
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oh okay cool

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if she's from Peru maybe her story will cross over with Lucio or something

rare trail
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lucios in brazil i thought?

peak escarp
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yes

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Preu and Brazil are both in South America

zenith mango
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I’ve been away from the Internet for 3 weeks so if someone could fill me in on what happened that would be very much appreciated. Thanks!

paper ocean
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How did Overwatch get her, because if u hear her voice lines she seems like she needs no help

zenith mango
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Calling?

paper ocean
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That was a confusing cinematic

paper ocean
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New season released yesterday

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And the new character is a support who wields solar power

sly kettle
paper ocean
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I can see how Kiriko ties in with OW cuz she is part of the Shimada family

sly kettle
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she definitely will have an association eventually

weak cliff
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is there anything that i should know before starting PvE?

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i don't exactly know the lore so i'm kinda scared of starting without knowing much

sly kettle
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maybe just watch zero hour and the new sojourn animated short

peak escarp
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here's what you need to catch up on each mission

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Rio: Zero Hour (animated short), New Blood (comic)
Toronto: Calling (animated short)
Gothenburg: Binary (comic)
Underworld: London Calling (comic)

peak escarp
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if you want to understand the lore

weak cliff
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ah i see

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and i should watch the sojourn short before the toronto mission?

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calling

sly kettle
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new blood is also 5 issues btw

peak escarp
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yes

weak cliff
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okay so the shorts, missions, shorts, missions

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thanks

weak cliff
sly kettle
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if you go to the website you can find all the material

peak escarp
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it's a 5 part comic

sly kettle
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I was just saying one of them is 5 parts yeah

peak escarp
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London Calling is too

sly kettle
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I haven't read that one yet

weak cliff
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oh okay

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i never read comics so didn't know what you meant

paper ocean
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For some reason I think Illari and symmetra are going to get along not because of thier gadget similarity but because they sorta have the same tech

peak escarp
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it's honestly not great, but it introduces Iggy

sly kettle
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I generally don't read the comics but I read new blood cause i heard its good

weak cliff
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also do you guys know around what season we're getting more missions?

peak escarp
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nope

weak cliff
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i always loved overwatch and was always excited for pve

weak cliff
sly kettle
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honestly we could've done without the whole pve cancellation announcement cause I'm actually quite happy with this

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so long as it comes often enough

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and Idk if this was planned but I like how OW1 and OW2 is divided from a lore perspective

peak escarp
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OW1 was before everyone answered the Recall

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OW2 is after

hushed jetty
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wait if ow2 happened 3 years after recall. wtf happened in those 3 years

peak escarp
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dunno

sly kettle
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zero hour is 3 years after the recall?

paper ocean
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I'm making a character concept piece for, maybe a potential character. His name is Marco (Mirage)Di Giovanni. He is Italian and one of his abilities in his kit is called, Smoke and Mirror. A floating drone fly's up in the air to cast illusions of himself among fights to confuse the enemy team.

peak escarp
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either it's 3 years between Recall and Zero Hour, or 3 years between Zero Hour and the Invasion missions

paper ocean
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I was thinking for his Ult to be able to copy any of the enemy team's players, but I remebered Echo

sly kettle
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it probably makes more sense for the 3 years to be after zero hour since it wasn't obvious for Sojourn the strange attacks were all connected

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but idrk

peak escarp
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yeah

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that's my guess too

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because I've worked out the timeline between Recall and Zero Hour and making it 3 years screws everything up

sly kettle
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can't some of the comics fill in what they've been up to in between

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like Cass recruiting people

peak escarp
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New Blood starts after Cassidy rescued Echo from Ashe, and ends just after Zero Hour

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no way he was searching for people for 3 years

sly kettle
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yeah if that's the case then def not lol

carmine dawn
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where are illari’s posers from? do we know

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powers*

peak escarp
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her culture uses a process called solar threading to implant cybernetic threads that allowe her to capture and harness solar power

pastel stirrup
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i found an interview of jeff kaplan saying overwatch 2 takes place 1 year after recall

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guess it's not 3 yrs then

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i think the uprising date should say 8 years ago instead of 10

peak escarp
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or Jeff Kaplan was wrong

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probably changed it

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the version published in the game is correct

sudden crystal
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ramattra will liberate earth

weak cliff
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i just finished the first mission

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i'm speechless somehow lol

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thought the missions were longer but it's fine

merry mason
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The first was pretty short

pallid light
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no reaper content

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devastated

sudden crystal
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ram is unironically leading a protracted peoples war lol

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based!

zenith mango
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I just finished the first mission and I ask

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Does the sojourn cinematic take place right after rio?

lunar ledge
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Where is all the lore in underworld? I got the music, Mondatta, Lucio and wall one
I'm missing one

peak escarp
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there's two on the walls

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one that's anti-omnic grafitti, one that's the sign for the Underworld

shadow marsh
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What are everyone's thoughts on Illari's origin story?

woven jewel
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I like it

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I do see the similarities to Mei except it's heavier on Illari

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I also realized it's pronounced Iyari as it would be in Spanish lol

worthy rose
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So

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The Iris has a location

woven jewel
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Shambali Monastery I believe

worthy rose
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That makes it something that can be destroyed

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Potentially

woven jewel
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Or maybe harnessed

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But then again, Sigma seems to have seen the Iris when harnessing the black hole

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So prob not harnessable

hushed jetty
glacial zinc
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Imagine if null sector attacked the Shambali Monastery

shadow marsh
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I just realized, If Echo ever becomes a playable hero in one of the story missions how would her ult work

worthy rose
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Aurora just be like "I gave you sentience, I can take it back".

hushed jetty
shadow marsh
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Interesting

spare fox
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Illari is pronounced like "ee-ya-ri" but you kind of swallow the first syllable, the "ya" is hard almost but not quite an english "j" sound, and then you have to make the "ri" more with your teeth and tongue rather than your lips like with american english

peak escarp
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eelyari

wild barn
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Someone wanna be friends and play games like ow2,valo,cs dm me

rain shoal
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i recorded it here ^^

cyan zodiac
glacial zinc
cyan zodiac
glacial zinc
cyan zodiac
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Where talon surrounds him

shadow marsh
cyan zodiac
rare trail
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they like brainwash them right?

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or control them or whatever

hushed jetty
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unclear, but i imagine that's what subjugating eventually does

shadow marsh
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As of now we just see them immobilized

worthy rose
cyan zodiac
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He may be a murderer but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have dignity

worthy rose
normal stump
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LOVE the fact that they gave us a cliff hanger for the last mission! excited to not remember it in 2-3 months!!!!!!

indigo hawk
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winton

normal stump
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overwat

indigo hawk
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zenbaty

limpid agate
normal stump
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awesome

muted ferry
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zen got 2 min of screentime it was all worth it 🗣️🗣️‼️🤑

spare fox
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it kind of was I mean I'm hyped for that mission already

muted ferry
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no seriously like I was worried the pve lore would only cover the main OW characters from zero hour

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also hoping for some more sombra in the next mission drop

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but mainly zen bc they're finally giving him cinematic screentime

past copper
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Fun thought. Wonder how Zenyatta will react once he finds out that it was Widowmaker who killed Mondatta

muted ferry
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im assuming they're gonna try to capture him and fail, leading to the mission with him and genji on suravasa

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im more wondering how he'll react to ram leading null sector, even in the noncanon pvp interactions I feel like he doesnt know that yet

past copper
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Only that it was an unidentified assailant

muted ferry
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idk but a lot of it I think we can assume based on stuff we already know from other lore

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like bap being ex-talon being redacted

past copper
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Tracer knows it was Widowmaker and Talon, but it’s not like she can go public with this knowledge

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They’d arrest her for violating the Petras Act if she did

muted ferry
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even if it isnt public something tells me zen would know just because tbh

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I wonder if the next batch is finally gonna give us more on sombra and whoever she's been after, maybe she'll finally double cross talon

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some of the lore we got with this first batch suggest someone besides ram and maybe even doom is having some influence over what null sector had been doing, maybe its the same person sombra has been hunting

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or I could be overanalyzing and this batch lore is just leading up to ow finding out null sector is working with talon

shadow marsh
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How old is Illari?

weak cliff
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I just watched the calling short, I am just confused about one thing. why was that agent gonna arrest sojourn?

grand wedge
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Because she is breaking the Petra’s Act that forbid all old Overwatch agent to do vigilantism

weak cliff
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oh yeah, makes sense

vestal skiff
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sigma best origin story, not up for debate

ruby ridge
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eh

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sigmas so overrated

twilit patrol
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I think not

stuck stump
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was tracer still fighting when overwatch disbanded

lavish vessel
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She continued her work as a vigilante in London yeah

gilded zinc
golden oak
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Maybe except torb

paper ocean
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You guys remeber how i was talking abt making the character Mirage, the guy that can cast illusions, for OW

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Well i added a new ability for his kit. It's called, the Human Shield, it will act like a shield for his teammates, and basically he sends an illusion in front of his teammates if they are low or whatever and will block any attacks shot at them. But to make it balanced, sort of, it can not block any explosives or anything u have to throw 🙂

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how the hell does an illusion block

paper ocean
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Its just an idea im still working on it

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And its a game so anything could happend

vital ocean
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isnt sym like the illusionist alr

paper ocean
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So is lifeweaver

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But Mirage is not part of Vishkar

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He is kinda like sombra, backstory wise.

pallid light
kindred kite
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Any clues on the data breach traces mentioned under brigs journal?

worthy rose
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U guys got shouted out

rare trail
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is anas a-7000 wargod skin canon?

peak escarp
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possibly

hushed jetty
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i would LOVE if it is

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its such a sick idea

storm wraith
rare trail
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no?

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wdym

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its about null sector

storm wraith
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oh welp..

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OK BUT HEAR ME OUT-

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LISTENLISTEN

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her voicelines are supposed to glitch when she is upset and stay normal when she is just talking right

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so why when she kills soilder, pharah, rein, etc. Her voice starts to glitches

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they made her like a sentiment Ana killing her friends

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IM SO SMART 😊😊

merry token
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Her killing pharah voiceline is 😔😔

storm wraith
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ITS SO SAD

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AND THE SOILDER ONE

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AND THEN REIN ONE

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ALL OF TJEM 😔

midnight token
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Is there any lore about How bastion like found torb

storm wraith
lavish vessel
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Binary comic explains it

storm wraith
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And Torbjorn obviously with his strong hate/distrust of omnics

midnight token
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Now thats explains his new clean model thanks guys

glacial zinc
paper ocean
merry token
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Separate

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Alr

merry token
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It’s a replication of Ana’s consciousness

paper ocean
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I wonder why Ana tho

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Does she have a connection with Null sector

merry mason
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No they just wanted to copy strong people

worthy rose
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Is Echo underage?

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Asking for a friend

peak escarp
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she's a robot

ruby ridge
worthy rose
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But that doesn't answer my question

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When did Mina create Echo?

peak escarp
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we don't know exactly

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some time in the last 23 years

paper ocean
worthy rose
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Where would someone even do that?

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edgy relic
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At the end of the final Invasion cutscene, is Widowmaker saying "We found him" to someone else on comms, referring to Zenyatta (they found Zenyatta), or is she speaking to Zenyatta, saying "We found him", referring to another character?

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At first I thought it was the former, but I wasn't so sure after reading a YouTube comment that interpreted it the latter way.

peak escarp
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it's Widowmaker reporting to someone else

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probably Doomfist or Ramattra

worthy rose
worthy rose
peak escarp
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Ramattra could have sent them to find Zenyatta and bring him to safety

peak escarp
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and?

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Ramattra is working with Talon

worthy rose
peak escarp
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why would they?

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Mondatta was a well known public figure

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he was assassinated to create more tension between humans and omnics

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Zenyatta is nobody

worthy rose
worthy rose
peak escarp
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Ramattra is already going to war against humans

tranquil trellis
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do you think every hero will make an appearance in the pve in the future

peak escarp
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he doesn't need more motivation

tranquil trellis
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including weaver and illari

tranquil trellis
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maybe not to play, becuase it'd be weird playing the bad guys

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but atleast in the cinematics

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like sombra and widow did at the end of mission 3

worthy rose
peak escarp
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Zenyatta is Ramattra's close friend - he would want to protect him from the war

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so, he asks Doomfist to send Talon agents to capture him

paper ocean
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Well ig they took Widowmaker

peak escarp
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because they're allies

worthy rose
peak escarp
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Ramattra is working with Talon, as we saw at the end of Storm Rising

paper ocean
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Oh

peak escarp
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Zen isn't part of OW

worthy rose
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hes not but he does have a link there

paper ocean
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Do u think Ramattra is going to get a skin for talon considering all the other members got one

paper ocean
peak escarp
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Genji shows up with Overwatch to protect him

worthy rose
paper ocean
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Now that's why they didnt try to kill him!!

paper ocean
peak escarp
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yes, Zenyatta can stand

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he only floats when meditating

plucky iris
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wheres that early footage from?

worthy rose
paper ocean
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So he meditates while fighting?? xD

peak escarp
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peak escarp
paper ocean
worthy rose
plucky iris
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idk how to feel about them taking that long

peak escarp
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game development takes a long time

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it can take years to get a full game out

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I'd rather let them take a long time than have it rushed and end up being bad

paper ocean
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I dont know why but for some reason i feel like orisa should have been in one of the missions in Nubani. I dont know why she just seems like the perfect one to fight omnics

plucky iris
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i wonder how the team members being replaced over time affects the lore

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didnt the original writer leave years ago?

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they mustve had a lot of possible lore in their head

paper ocean
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Imagine there was a lore of twin heroes??? They could be released at the same time!

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I dont understand Illari's origin story. How come they didnt know abt her TRUE powers before they used her in that solar machine??

worthy rose
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yea

peak escarp
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twin heroes would be cool

worthy rose
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ikr right!

paper ocean
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Ye!

plucky iris
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assuming invasion isnt a failure and they continue the storyline

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where do you guys think itll go

paper ocean
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Maybe abit more of the new characters?

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Or back to Volskaya!

peak escarp
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Overwatch fights Talon and Null Sector, defeats Ramattra, Doomfist gets away, a new threat shows up

paper ocean
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I still think in the end it'll go back to Volskaya

worthy rose
plucky iris
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whats important about volskaya?

paper ocean
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Volskaya created most of Null Sector im pretty sure

peak escarp
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incorrect

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Volskaya is not connected to Null Sector at all

plucky iris
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i wonder where null sector hq is

plucky iris
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theyve gotta have a place to hide those giant ships

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underwater maybe?

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THEN WTF WAS THE INFILTRATION CINEMATIC ABT BESIDES SOMBRA????

peak escarp
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Ramattra is operating out of an omnium in Antarctica

brazen delta
peak escarp
paper ocean
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But the robots they showed? Weren't they NS?

peak escarp
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no

paper ocean
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Ooooh

plucky iris
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how did they destroy omniums in overwatch universe?

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bombing?

twilit patrol
peak escarp
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yep

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omniums are the size of a city

plucky iris
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if they nuke antartica wouldnt that kill off the planet or smth

twilit patrol
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It's huge

paper ocean
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Im just being sgupid rn but wouldnt it be cool if Mina Lao the creator of Echo was ressurected by mercy and she made more like Echo to help fight NS?

plucky iris
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wait is that why australia in ow universe is full of radiation

peak escarp
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Mercy can't resurrect people

plucky iris
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from them nuking those robot factories?

twilit patrol
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No that's just in game

paper ocean
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Oh

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I was js being stupid there my bad

twilit patrol
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You even can't resurrect an omnic

peak escarp
twilit patrol
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You just had doubts

peak escarp
twilit patrol
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But that's all

paper ocean
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mhm 🙂

plucky iris
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is there a lore reason why reinhardt is huge?

peak escarp
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this is what "resurrect" looks like - just a burst of healing to someone who is badly injured

ruby ridge
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And the armor

plucky iris
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he looks like hes twice the size of a normal human

peak escarp
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he's just big

ruby ridge
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He’s like 6.6 if I remember correctly

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And buff

paper ocean
plucky iris
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that or torb in the cutscene is a smurf

twilit patrol
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And I'm asking why JQ is huge

ruby ridge
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She’s also 6.6 feet or something close

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She lived in a absolute wasteland

plucky iris
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who is the tallest character in overwatch lore

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if they stand up

ruby ridge
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Ingame it’s sigma im pretty sure

paper ocean
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@peak escarp How did the shimada clan tie in with OW?

ruby ridge
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In lore I think it’s primal form winston with good posture

ruby ridge
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And I think

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the Shimada clan were a criminal empire that dealt in weapons, so Overwatch had them under surveillance

ruby ridge
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Overwatch was dealing with the shimada clan

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Yeah

plucky iris
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is shimada clan wiped out?

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who are the new guys in kiriko trailer

ruby ridge
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Yeah

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That’s the

peak escarp
ruby ridge
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I forgot their name

peak escarp
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they took over the Shimada territory

plucky iris
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theyve gotta release a hashimoto character for the game then

ruby ridge
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J doubt

peak escarp
ruby ridge
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What we’ve seen so far from the hasimoto is they’re just yakuza basically

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Guy with guns

peak escarp
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Genji's bio in the game has some detail on the Shimada clan

ruby ridge
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And Japan already has 3 heroes

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Adding another one would be

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Greedy? For lack of better words

paper ocean
peak escarp
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because OW is busy dealing with Null Sector

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# peak escarp

Does it have all the characters lore? If so pull up sombras🤩

ruby ridge
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They don’t have time to deal with all the world sffsurs

ruby ridge
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Only is so far

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Ow

peak escarp
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only the Overwatch members have bios in the game

paper ocean
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dang

peak escarp
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Sombra will probably get one in the next batch

paper ocean
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Okay pull up Mercy!

peak escarp
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since she's an enemy

worthy rose
ruby ridge
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Sombras lore is basically using talon, being friends with Baptiste and a couple others and being a provocative gaslighter

peak escarp
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hold on

paper ocean
worthy rose
peak escarp
paper ocean
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Ty

ruby ridge
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Next PVE batch is talon so I’m excite

peak escarp
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Lucio's is pretty short

ruby ridge
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Im also so excited for hee vishkar missions

worthy rose
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Whos Anubis?

ruby ridge
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Any scrape of lifeweaver lore

ruby ridge
peak escarp
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Anubis is the god program that took control of the omnics and caused the omnic crisis

ruby ridge
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It was a ai that turned omnics against humans

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It was locked away in Cairo

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It was shown in the genesis comics but it’s basically a mummy tomb with a Anubis head

paper ocean
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Why did they make Émile LaCroix a sleeper agent just to kill her husband? Couldnt talon kill Gerald themselves??

ruby ridge
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They tried

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But it didn’t succeed

worthy rose
ruby ridge
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So they did anelie route

ruby ridge
worthy rose
ruby ridge
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It basically started controlling omnics

worthy rose
paper ocean
ruby ridge
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The blackwatch mission was to get revenge on talon after theh almost killed gerald in a attack

worthy rose
peak escarp
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they tried to kill him several times but failed

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using his wife was just another attempt

ruby ridge
peak escarp
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one that finally succeeded

ruby ridge
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Probably alongside the other omnics

plucky iris
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why did hanzo kill genji?

paper ocean
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DO you think Maximillian will ever show up again?

ruby ridge
ruby ridge
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In the talon mission/cinemayic/cutscene in circuit royale doomfist and him talk

worthy rose
plucky iris
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dumb reason to kill genji

paper ocean
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Idk if yall watch him but BROYOUWACK said he was but it ended up being Illari

plucky iris
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entire clan was ok with hanzo killing genji?

ruby ridge
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This led to a fight

paper ocean
plucky iris
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ive played a few of the yakuza games

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idk if theyre realistic

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if hanzo was head of the clan he has final say

paper ocean
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Did mercy and moira ever work together?

worthy rose
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yea

paper ocean
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I feel like they would've

worthy rose
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i think

ruby ridge
plucky iris
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he could just order the rest of the clan off

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theyve taken oaths

ruby ridge
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Barely anyone in overwatch knew moira was in blackwatch

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This would likely include mercy

plucky iris
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honor is real big thing in those games

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yakuza world

ruby ridge
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Hanzo didn’t want to kill genji likely, it just went to far

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Also hanzo was still relatively young

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He was impressionable

paper ocean
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OMG I JUST THOUGHT OF A CHARACTER THAT COULD BE A NEW HERO (this is a joke so dont take this so har)

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But Efi!

peak escarp
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Hanzo was about 27 at the time

paper ocean
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The Nubani girl

ruby ridge
peak escarp
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Genji was 23

ruby ridge
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8

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That’s not legal at all I’m pretty sure

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  • what’s the point of efi being a hero when orisa is?
plucky iris
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if genjis entire body is a robot now

peak escarp
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Efi is 11, they're not going to make her a playable hero

plucky iris
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didnt he technically stop aging

paper ocean
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No like they could jump a few years

ruby ridge
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That’s not gonna happen

paper ocean
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Idk i said it was a joke so lets drop it pls

peak escarp
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they'd have to jump a lot of years

ruby ridge
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They aren’t gonna retcon efi or time jump overwatxh just for a hero

ruby ridge
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He still she’s

paper ocean
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OKAY OKAY IM SORRY😭

ruby ridge
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She’s

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Ages

peak escarp
ruby ridge
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He’s a cyborg

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In the dragons cinemayic you can see parts of his disgusting old unwashed face

plucky iris
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im guessing hanzo doesnt know genji is alive yet in the story

worthy rose
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Is Ana better than doomfist?

ruby ridge
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He does

paper ocean
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Does Mercy age????

ruby ridge
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In lore?

ruby ridge
peak escarp
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everyone ages

worthy rose
ruby ridge
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Watch the dragons cinemayic

paper ocean
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Can she die?

ruby ridge
ruby ridge
twilit patrol
ruby ridge
twilit patrol
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There's not immortality

ruby ridge
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Ana is jusg a vigilante

paper ocean
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But mercy can-nvm

twilit patrol
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Mercy can die

plucky iris
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wait how old is soldier 76 and reaper?

ruby ridge
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Mercy can’t resurrect in lord

plucky iris
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and reinhardt?

peak escarp
ruby ridge
paper ocean
ruby ridge
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Reaper is 58, and we don't have a confirmed age for Soldier

paper ocean
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Whos the oldest?

plucky iris
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theyre built like olympians

ruby ridge
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62

plucky iris
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they must be on steroids

paper ocean
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😮

paper ocean
ruby ridge
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Reaper and soldier were in the soldier enhancement program

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That’s why they’re so physically strong

plucky iris
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ive never seen anyone 61 thats huge like reinhardt

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that cinematic must be a lie

ruby ridge
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Reinhardt is just strong because he lifts a lot

paper ocean
ruby ridge
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And he’s like 6v6

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6.6

ruby ridge
plucky iris
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even sigma looks ripped

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and hes supposed to be a scientist isnt he

paper ocean
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What does b.o.b stand for? Big Omnic Butler?

ruby ridge
paper ocean
golden oak
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ruby ridge
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Overwatch designs aren’t supposed to be realistic, they’re supposed to look good, of course a 61 year old wouldent look like reinhardt

golden oak
ruby ridge
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Moira is 48 but she still looks younger

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ASHE is 39 but she looks late 20s max

plucky iris
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idk moira looks old

paper ocean
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Cassidy?

plucky iris
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ashe looks young

peak escarp
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the art style is very stylized

ruby ridge
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Cassidy is 37

peak escarp
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everyone looks younger

ruby ridge
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I think

worthy rose
paper ocean
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👍

plucky iris
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cassidy looks 37

ruby ridge
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Right?

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Ana is just a vigilante

paper ocean
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Are Ashe and Sombra friends 👉👈

worthy rose
ruby ridge
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We don’t know

peak escarp
ruby ridge
worthy rose
plucky iris
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im guessing reinhardts crusader armor greatly enhances his strength

ruby ridge
plucky iris
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based off the cinematic

ruby ridge
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He literally gets out there to fight

plucky iris
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couldnt he easily cave in orisas head?

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and bastion?

ruby ridge
worthy rose
ruby ridge
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She has new tech

peak escarp
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Doomfist was in prison for 4 years

ruby ridge
worthy rose
ruby ridge
plucky iris
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also how did doomfist punch his way out of prison without the gauntlet

peak escarp
ruby ridge
worthy rose
plucky iris
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where does reaper get his shotguns from?

ruby ridge
ruby ridge
plucky iris
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its the little thing that bother me

ruby ridge
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In the comics somethings are different

worthy rose
ruby ridge
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In april@fools mode when he died he also spawned a bunch of shotguns

paper ocean
peak escarp
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voice lines don't represent canon conversations or relationships

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they're hypothetical

paper ocean
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Alr gotcha

peak escarp
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like playing with action figures

paper ocean
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Lol ok

ruby ridge
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Talking about lore

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Lw lore soon 🙏

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Also the new hero isn’t connected to anyone we know yet

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Interesting

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Hope she gets a short story soon

paper ocean
ruby ridge
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Confirmed to happen

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There’s gonna be a heroes ascendant comics releasing in March 10th

paper ocean
ruby ridge
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Sym is gonna track down vishkar asset and a old friend

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Aka lw

ruby ridge
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She’s a loner

paper ocean
ruby ridge
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She sun nuked her own village

plucky iris
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is lifeweaver friends or enemies with any of the characters?

ruby ridge
paper ocean
ruby ridge
paper ocean
ruby ridge
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Interactions aren’t canon

paper ocean
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No im just pointing out that her voice lines are savage

paper ocean
ruby ridge
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I’m gonna go sleep

paper ocean
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Good night!

worthy rose
ruby ridge
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If you have any last questions say it rq I’ll respond

paper ocean
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What is the backstory of Orisa

ruby ridge
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She was made out of destroyed or-15 robots (made to defend numbani) after the attack on the numbani airport by doomfist, efi rebuilt her and gave her new tech to protect the city

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New tech being the javelin and fortify

paper ocean
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Oh so thats why efi gets along with her

ruby ridge
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Yes

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Orisa is to efi basically what Bob is to Ashe

paper ocean
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Lol

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Okay good night!

ruby ridge
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Bye

rough dome
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The new support is kind like the sunflower from pvz, ik it's not lore related but still

worthy rose
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i see it

cursive vine
glacial zinc
worthy rose
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yess

paper ocean
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THAT WOULD BE COOL

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I SUGGESTED EFI EARLIER AND EVERYONE SAID NO😭

worthy rose
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i dont think i said no?

paper ocean
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NOT U NVM

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SORRY

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AHHHH

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🤩👈

hushed jetty
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efi is, regretfully, like 12

zenith mango
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so illari killed all the sun ppl?

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and if so why did the thingy explode

paper ocean
paper ocean
paper ocean
zenith orbit
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Is ana dead in the invasion lore? Bc. I think its like nulsector catchet ana to steal parts of her personality and killed her after that sorry for bad english btw.

rare trail
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what? ana isnt dead

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invasion lore is just regular lore

paper ocean
zenith orbit
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I mean the lore to the mythic skin

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Ah thx

paper ocean
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Ana is fine

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Do you guys think they (devs) should stop messing with Mercy's damage boost? She's not fun anymore

worthy rose
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thats not lore but yes

hallow shuttle
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Then who's Vincent

paper ocean
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soldier is gay

merry token
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Dawg, I hate to break it to you…

hallow shuttle
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Oh yeah, just like Charlie and Vaggie are sisters

paper ocean
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.

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this aint lore take this convo to general-disscusion

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0-o

dapper sparrow
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I thought he wasn’t straight

paper ocean
merry token
paper ocean
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they're just being dumb kids

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alr

dapper sparrow
paper ocean
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Read the short story Baset

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Blizzard Entertainment confirmed Monday that “Overwatch” character Soldier: 76 is now the second LGBTQ+ character in the game’s universe.

Until this week, Blizzard has kept mum on anything regarding Soldier: 76’s personal life in the lore surrounding the game. When contacted for comment, a Blizzard Entertainment rep directed Variety to Michael Chu’s Twitter account, which confirmed that Jack and Vincent were in a “romantic relationship” many years ago. “Both identify as gay,” Chu confirmed.

A rep also told Variety: “Yes, Soldier: 76 (aka Jack Morrison) identifies as LGBT. It was revealed in our latest short story, ‘Bastet,’ that Jack had a male love interest named Vincent.”

The character, whose real name is Jack Morrison, appears in a new short story called “Bastet,” which features the character Ana. The former sniper finds a wounded Soldier: 76 while wandering the streets of Cairo and takes him to her hideout to recuperate.

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Bro click the link -_-

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ya'll are wierd in the head. I don't wanna use any other word in case you guys are seven year olds learning homophobia from your parents

paper ocean
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He left XD

vast gulch
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Disappearing trick

worthy rose
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lol

vast gulch
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Continue with lore discussion please

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Ty

paper ocean
paper ocean
vast gulch
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Oh you're fine

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Carry on

paper ocean
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Did Angela really wanna become Mercy, because her parents joined to help medically with the Omnic Crisis, so maybe she was pressured?

zenith mango
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she wanted to help people

worthy rose
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So Vigilante Sojourn is canon

paper ocean
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yes

worthy rose
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I wonder if Rein had a vigilante stage in his life

paper ocean
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it's kind of like soldiers situation

zenith mango
worthy rose
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Ah yes

paper ocean
worthy rose
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Reaper is canonically a ghost

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Cass says "Jack Morrison is out chasing ghosts"

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CassidyHowdy lore

paper ocean
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Did Moira help Ana with her rifle bc the same healing stuff moira uses looks spot on to what is in Ana's rifle

worthy rose
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Nah it's Mercy's tech

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Modified tho

paper ocean
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🤔

zenith mango