#lore-discussion

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peak escarp
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she was Ellie in TLOU

plucky iris
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im surprised troy baker isnt in overwatch

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i keep seeing him every game i buy

peak escarp
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oh yeah that's another one that would be good to have

worthy rose
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Who played Chris Redfield in RE8?

oh god I'd love him

peak escarp
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Jeff Schine

hushed jetty
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prozd voicing someone would be funny af but no shot it'd ever happen

peak escarp
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he's a pretty good VA though

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I could see it

plucky iris
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not a fan of his low voice

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his high voice is funny af though

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maybe a new animal character

peak escarp
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ooh he could be Casino

hushed jetty
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TRUE

worthy rose
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Tom Kenny voicing a character would feel cool

peak escarp
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the green one

worthy rose
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He can do many voices

hushed jetty
peak escarp
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NO WAIT

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Sungwon Cho should voice King

worthy rose
worthy rose
hushed jetty
peak escarp
plucky iris
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i dont think itd be a good idea to add more meka or kirikos gang as characters

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rather have something different

peak escarp
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not as a hero

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but maybe in a short or a mission

plucky iris
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yeah anythings fine that scenario

hushed jetty
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shooting star... 2!

peak escarp
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I just think he's got the perfect smug voice for it

hushed jetty
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i think they said thered be new cinemayics in s7 right

plucky iris
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im surprised theres no flamethrower character yet

peak escarp
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I think so?

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yeah, they said more cinematics would be coming "in season 7 and beyond"

plucky iris
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theyre also missing a lock on character for damage

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moira and winston exist but none for damage

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peak escarp
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Moira doesn't lock on

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it's just the animation

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the actual weapon has a hitbox similar to Symm/Zarya's beam

plucky iris
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just means we need more lock on

peak escarp
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eh

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people don't like lock-on damage

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it doesn't feel good to fight against

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that's why Symm got changed

merry token
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Their damage would have to be really low for people to not complain about it ☠️

plucky iris
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i miss old sym

merry token
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And even then

plucky iris
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idk why it upset people

merry token
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Because people don’t like playing against a character that genuinely does not require aim

peak escarp
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we're getting off topic

plucky iris
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new character is tank right?

merry token
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Like next season’s? Cause illari is a support

plucky iris
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prob gonna be a big person

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anyone besides mauga we know of

peak escarp
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season 8's hero will be a tank, yes

plucky iris
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thats a big boy

peak escarp
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could be Mauga, could be someone new

plucky iris
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or someone from concept art

worthy rose
# plucky iris i dont think itd be a good idea to add more meka or kirikos gang as characters

Overwatch (despite having lore and such)

Is made to represent different types of cultures throughout the game, Illari, being the new hero; represents Peruvians.

And very soon, Mauga probably; for Samoans.

I don't think their gonna add anyone of a certain faction or ethnicity again for a while- we got another Japanese and Austrilian character at the start of the game, the possibilities of that happening again would be a long darn time

peak escarp
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unless they're important to the story

worthy rose
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their going to probably make more new heroes instead of people from certain factions

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yeah

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Or that

plucky iris
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maybe something thats currently popular

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in current modern times

worthy rose
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Wdym by that

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I'm sitting here waiting on another arabic character who isn't the usual egyptian

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like maybe Saudi

plucky iris
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are they missing an italian character?

worthy rose
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Yeah, but that could be Maximillion (as a hero)

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But he fulfills that spot anyway in game or not

plucky iris
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its like fighting game rosters kinda

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no portuguese character either

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or spanish

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no greek

worthy rose
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Actually

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Sombra

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is latina

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she speaks spanish

peak escarp
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Maximillien is based out of Monaco, not Italy

worthy rose
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unless you're talking about someone from spain

plucky iris
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latin americans are sombra illari i think

peak escarp
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correct

plucky iris
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illari real recent

peak escarp
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I'd like a hero from Spain

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plucky iris
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dont think theyll go back there soon

worthy rose
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Yeah

plucky iris
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only big european countries off top my head are portugal spain italy greece

merry token
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I’m ngl I don’t rlly like the gamer girl archetype given to Korean characters in games

worthy rose
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I'm tired of video games always using Egyptians, people gotta know there's other different versions of Arabs out there.

plucky iris
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street fighter collab

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they put rashid in ow

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problem solved

worthy rose
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Rashid was a good rep

merry token
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Pharah is Egyptian-Canadian, right?

worthy rose
peak escarp
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I'd like to see a male hero from the middle east who is good-aligned

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we don't often get good guys from there

plucky iris
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did they mention middle east in ow universe?

worthy rose
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Nope

peak escarp
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Petra?

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is that in the middle east?

plucky iris
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petras ruins though

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from ancient times

peak escarp
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it's still a map in the game

plucky iris
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like biblical ancient

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hahaha

peak escarp
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there's also Hamid Faisal, who is an archaeologist that Ana knows

worthy rose
plucky iris
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petras in saudi arabia i think

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might be wrong

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always looked greek to me though

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plucky iris
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like something out of the movie troy lol

worthy rose
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I'd like a Saudi, Moroccan, or Turkish male character

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and I'm set

peak escarp
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Petra is in Jordan, iirc

plucky iris
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ah

peak escarp
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ooh Moroccan would be cool

plucky iris
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oh

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no mongolian

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plucky iris
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doomfist and orisa are african right

worthy rose
plucky iris
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from where tho

worthy rose
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Doomfist I'd assume is nigerian

plucky iris
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numbani isnt real

worthy rose
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Orisa idk

plucky iris
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maybe books have answer

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never read them

peak escarp
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Numbani is located in Nigeria

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but it is its own citystate

worthy rose
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ah I was right

plucky iris
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the hell happened to nigeria then

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they get invaded by robots or something

peak escarp
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they just established a city there

worthy rose
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This may seem like a stupid idea by me-

I sorta want Efi in the game, using her own sorta mech to fight

As a tank

peak escarp
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it wasn't invaded

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I don't think they'd have a child as a playable hero

plucky iris
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yeah

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nothing controversial

worthy rose
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I'm only taking some logic from the fact they made a child fight in mortal kombat x

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And d.va was canoncially 16 before they changed it for certain reasons

plucky iris
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is orisa an omnic

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or a generic robot

worthy rose
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She's created out of omnic parts

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By Efi

plucky iris
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omnics were mass produced slave robots that got a virus to kill humans then got another virus to think for themselves right?

worthy rose
peak escarp
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your friend was wrong

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there were several concepts for a young mech pilot hero before they settled on D.Va, some of those were younger

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but D.Va herself was always an adult

worthy rose
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I remember the many times people were begging for Overlord as a support instead of Illari

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makes me laugh

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how'd you make a MECH HERO into a support?

plucky iris
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whos overlord

worthy rose
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That'd be tankier than Brigitte

peak escarp
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yeah that would be a tough one

worthy rose
peak escarp
plucky iris
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meka people

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yeah too big to be support

merry token
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Honestly, why not

plucky iris
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cant imagine support with big hitbox

merry token
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Could be time to get a support with a larger hitbox

worthy rose
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I want a character who simply holds a giant machine gun and just rattles through everyone

merry token
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Lifeweaver and Ramattra’s base models are already similar ish in size

worthy rose
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as a Tank

plucky iris
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so heavy?

worthy rose
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Yeah

plucky iris
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roadhog fullhog 24/7

worthy rose
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I'd imagine like 100 Ammo, but little damage

plucky iris
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is there a melee dps?

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think torb has hammer

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maybe new lore dps hero after tank will be melee

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you got rein and brig

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maybe another crusader with huge sword

peak escarp
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melee heroes in a shooter are a bad idea

plucky iris
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out of the maps in the game

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which ones are missing characters?

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from their respective zones

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something to look into

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kinda like how ashe and cassidy from that push map

peak escarp
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Circuit Royal, Havana, Rialto, Blizzard World, Hollywood, Midtown, Ilios, Lijiang Tower, Colosseo, Paraiso

hushed jetty
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havana, i guess?

plucky iris
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i woulda thought thats max guys map but lore said hes french

hushed jetty
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midtown too i think

plucky iris
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lol

peak escarp
hushed jetty
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ilios, collosseo, esperanca

plucky iris
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theyve got a lot of options then

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to tie in a map to a new character

worthy rose
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I sometimes feel like

maybe we should get a cinematic on Siberen de Kuiper's life before Talon-

In an interaction in April, apparently him and Angela had a history together

So suppose we could add more lore to Angela in that same cinematic as well?

plucky iris
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is blizz world canon?

worthy rose
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Doesn't seem to be

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It's just a map inspired by World of Warcraft turned into a theme park

peak escarp
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it's a theme park based around Blizzard games

plucky iris
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for those that spent the time reading comics and books

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is there a character in there mentioned you think can be added later on

peak escarp
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Lynx-Seventeen

plucky iris
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whats the background for them?

peak escarp
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they're a hacker that Zarya worked with to track down Sombra

hushed jetty
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lore wise bro has got so little

plucky iris
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does sigma have a backstory? his short was confusing

stuck stump
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Her

plucky iris
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barely made sense to me

peak escarp
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he was an astrophysicist trying to harness the power of a black hole

plucky iris
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space related

stuck stump
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It went wrong I assume

plucky iris
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is he tied into winston and hammond then?

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or just coincidence

peak escarp
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his experiment backfired, creating a tiny black hole that shattered his mind and gave him gravity powers that he couldn't control

stuck stump
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Is he completely insane

hushed jetty
peak escarp
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he was quarantined in a government facility for his own safety and then Talon stole him out

plucky iris
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its all connected

hushed jetty
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so its not out of the question that he has at least heard of hammond

plucky iris
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then

hushed jetty
plucky iris
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what is the music?

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he keeps bringing it up

hushed jetty
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maybr a little eccentric
we dont know a whole lot about what talon's been doign with him aftrr they took him out of the asylum

peak escarp
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it's an auditory hallucination caused by his brain damage

plucky iris
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now thats depressing

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that list you posted a while back

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of who killed humans before

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why didnt tracer kill widow

peak escarp
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because Tracer is a good person

hushed jetty
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she doesnt seem lile the killing type

peak escarp
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she doesn't kill unless necessary

plucky iris
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after zen and rammatras mentor died

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is their temple still there?

peak escarp
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yes

plucky iris
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or is the pvp map just not canon

hushed jetty
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im mostly wondering why so many omnics have hair
like, none of the playable ones have hair. orisa and ram have wires as "hair" but the ones in the pve have actual hair

plucky iris
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im assuming all pvp is not canon

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except maybe the interaction lines

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maybe

hushed jetty
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the games themselves arent canon but many of the maps are

peak escarp
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it's metal or plastic made to look like hair

hushed jetty
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or all, even

plucky iris
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yeah its weird

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a lot of them are bald

hushed jetty
plucky iris
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some copy humans

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kinda creepy

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robots dont feel cold

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why are they wearing sweaters

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kinda strange

hushed jetty
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same reason genji put a jacket on ig

peak escarp
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because they work with humans, and humans are uncomfortable around nudity

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even robot nudity

plucky iris
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genji reminds me too much of grey fox and raiden

dawn meteor
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canon that robots have dicks?

peak escarp
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no

dawn meteor
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damn

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then why does zen wear pants

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I bet he's packing

hushed jetty
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style i suppose

shadow marsh
plucky iris
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im guessing most humans hate omnics

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in the lore?

peak escarp
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a lot do

hushed jetty
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i wouldnt say "most"

peak escarp
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but a lot also accept omnics

plucky iris
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mass extinction would be hard to forget in what is it

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20 years ago or something

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lol

peak escarp
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28 years ago

plucky iris
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a lot of people probably alive then that experienced possible extinction event then

peak escarp
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yep

plucky iris
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im surprised rein is all buddy buddy with bastion in the new mission

peak escarp
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he isn't at the beginning

plucky iris
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didnt his mentor get gunned down by orisa prototypes or something

peak escarp
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Rein attacks him in the opening cutscene

plucky iris
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and bastion units

shadow marsh
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Rein almost killed a civilian omnic though

peak escarp
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Rein has a hard time understanding that omnics are alive

plucky iris
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rein probably is the most realistic character then

peak escarp
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they're not "just machines"

plucky iris
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i dont think anyone irl will think otherwise

shadow marsh
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In the Toronto mission, he tried yanking out the mind control device on an omnic hoping to help him— unfortunately it was horrible to watch

hushed jetty
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do we know what on earth happened to rein that made him resign from ow

plucky iris
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yeah thatd be nice to know

hushed jetty
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its mentioned in his file but the Detail is encrypted

plucky iris
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he doesnt seem like someone that takes no for an answer

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also is cassidy mccree still or was that his real name or a nickname or is that name just completely gone now?

hushed jetty
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they retconned his original name

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its cole cassidy entirely now

plucky iris
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its been 7 years and still missing a lot of info

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like how does zen float

peak escarp
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the Iris gives him powers

merry token
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Jesus Christ I can’t find the Cole Cassidy command 😭

peak escarp
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he can only float while meditating

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yes

plucky iris
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dont wanna spoil it for people

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is it magic like hanzo kiriko stuff

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?

peak escarp
twilit nacelleBOT
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McCree was originally named after a Blizzard employee named Jesse McCree, because he had a cool sounding name. Blizzard no longer associates with that employee due to harassment in the workplace, so they changed the hero's name. Blizzard also committed to not naming in-game characters after staffers anymore.

peak escarp
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you can see the creation of the Iris here

stuck stump
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The iris is a living thing right

peak escarp
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kinda

shadow marsh
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Aurora is the iris

plucky iris
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i just assumed the animated series was filler

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thats actually really important lore

peak escarp
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it is very important to the lore

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it explains how omnics became sentient

plucky iris
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strange how its not in the game though

peak escarp
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most of the lore isn't in the game

hushed jetty
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like 90% of the important lore isnt in game

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99%, even

peak escarp
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that's why I keep a list

plucky iris
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after watching that

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see a lot of similarities to metal gear

fleet sluice
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Guys... Is Zen getting kidnapped by Sombra and Widow?!

plucky iris
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so theres multiple god programs

fleet sluice
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Because they were hunting him .... Maybe to take him to RAMATTRA?!

plucky iris
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anubis went rogue and decided to kill off humanity

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and aurora became the iris?

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what happened to anubis then?

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no mention of the other god programs either

fleet sluice
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wait but can someone theorise with me about the ending scene?!

plucky iris
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kinda strange they kept anubis alive

peak escarp
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maybe they thought it was too valuable to destroy

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humans are stupid like that

plucky iris
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seems a little sus

fleet sluice
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yeah... But what if Anubis takes form like an omnic or something?!

peak escarp
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or they wanted to study it and figure out why it went rogue

plucky iris
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strange how the god programs stopped all traffic to avoid child dying

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that level of control is insane

peak escarp
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but Pharah's team stopped it

plucky iris
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whats to stop them from controlling world economy

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food production etc

plucky iris
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like anubis when he went rogue

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lore seems less realistic the more you read into it

fleet sluice
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I really got chills when Zen was feeling the evil behind him...

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It's like he knew his brother is associated with Talon

plucky iris
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mondatta got killed by talon

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and ramattra now works with talon

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must have not cared about his mentor that much

peak escarp
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Ramattra didn't like Mondatta

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Mondatta spoke out against Null Sector after the King's Row Uprising

plucky iris
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did rammatra create null sector?

peak escarp
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yes

fleet sluice
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Wait but Ram does like zen, right?! What if Zen talks ram out of his crazyness?!

plucky iris
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but he mustve liked the guy if he followed him for years in that temple where auroras iris spirit is

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he called zenyatta his brother too

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when zen does his ult

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is he summoning auroras spirit or something

fleet sluice
fleet sluice
peak escarp
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Zen's ult isn't canon

fleet sluice
plucky iris
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im surprised humans forgive and forget omnics that easily

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they can get hit by that virus and itll repeat their history

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rammatra is just speeding up their extinction

stuck stump
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Bob seems so nice, ashe on the other hand...

plucky iris
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closest thing to a virus for humans would probably be brainwashing or a cult

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and most people could see those coming from a mile away

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omnics just seem too dangerous to be left alive

fleet sluice
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Also I have a question: how did Zarya join Overwatch?!

peak escarp
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Cassidy recruited her

fleet sluice
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Oh I didn't know

peak escarp
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read the comic "New Blood"

fleet sluice
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I only started playing with the OW2 launch

peak escarp
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she gets recruited in issue #3

fleet sluice
plucky iris
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is ashe even evil?

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all she does is rob people

peak escarp
plucky iris
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and bob is the muscle

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so bob is bad by extension

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not nice

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if you think about it

misty dagger
misty dagger
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Anyways I have a question, does Talon have anything to do with the Null Sector Invasion? I don’t think I’ve seen anything related to it ever since Doomfist and Ramattra made an alliance.

fleet sluice
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In all honesty, the update is top notch on lore stuff... but it's too expensive

peak escarp
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do you normally buy the BP?

fleet sluice
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Yes

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I buy it but right now I am not financially stable

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And in my country... 15$ is 5 times more expensive than the number 15

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It's 75 RON

rugged belfry
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Okay these texts messages between the Overwatch members in the PvE thing are actually making my night

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i know its just 3 missions and some lore but im so over the moon with this release

worthy rose
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can sentient omnics not believe in the iris

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because the king's row omnics strike as the kind to not be religious to me

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i'd also like to know how omnic sentience spread after the initial start with aurora whatever her name was

white wave
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we finally got freakin story mode, about damn time fr

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would’ve been better as a movie or netflix series tho

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cliffhanger was hype tho, when does the next bundle of missions drop

merry ginkgo
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whats the lore of illari?

past copper
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Unless Blizzard retracts that statement and makes it this year

merry ginkgo
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ik shes the last child of the sun or whatever

past copper
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She’s the soul survivor of a warrior group who infuse their bodies with solar energy

merry ginkgo
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did one of her parents die like every single character in apex

past copper
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She is the cause of their deaths and has left Peru, haunted by her own actions

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We don’t know much else about her beyond this

past copper
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This is Illari’s story so far

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Not gone lie, I’m not sure where she sits in the story. At least with Kiriko n Life Weaver, they have connections to other heroes

white wave
paper ocean
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Ngl for some reason i feel like Mei would get along with her

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But there's no voice interatction with anyone on her

limpid agate
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She didnt join OW

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Not every playable hero is part of Overwatch

past copper
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They could potentially retract this statement and actually release the next 3 sooner, but I wouldn’t hold my breath

vital ocean
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what if iris shut down bastion on purpose

past copper
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That doesn’t make any sense

vital ocean
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cuz iris knew bastio was like happy and shit

past copper
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You’re just shitposting now

vital ocean
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yes

fresh rock
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I can wait.

distant sparrow
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genji carried the entire team in the zero hour thing

past copper
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I don’t mind waiting for another set of story missions. Besides, I can understand why

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The only other story mission we saw was Overwatch rescuing Zenyatta from Talon

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So besides that, we won’t find out what the other missions are until it comes time to release them

spare fox
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honestly I only see them doing a similar thing (3 mission release) about once a year

lavish vessel
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Im pretty sure they the next batch will take a bit longer because they want time for feedback and then they’ll go back to seasonly releases for the rest of the campaign

twilit patrol
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That’s the question too

spare fox
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maybe it'll be better but realistically that's what I think is going to happen coming from my experience with 1 archives mission a year at best

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Idk, seems like they at least worked on Toronto and Gothenberg at the same time

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the classic 2-part trilogy

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and they made Rio obviously prior to Blizzcon 2019 to test the waters and drum up hype

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keep in mind that between 2019 and now there was a pandemic, OWL taking away resources from the game, the huge blizzard scandal and lawsuit, related and unrelated to that a massive turnover in talent

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so we can hope none of that happens again and it doesn't take another 4 years for 3 missions lol

blazing pine
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Zen vs talon confirmed bro gonna clap them

dire zenith
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wtf is illari

minor nexus
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Would y’all say that Sigma knew Moira before she turned into evil scientist lass

keen summit
latent iron
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Zen is gonna be on Ram’s side

merry mason
# dire zenith wtf is illari

We do know, she is from a clan of people with sun powers and she had the greatest sun powers potential but when it was time to activate the sun powers she accidentally killed all the other sun people. Now she lives alone and depressed

zenith mango
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I’ve been off the Internet for the past 3 weeks so if someone could give me a quick summary of what happened since then that would be very helpful!

trim dock
keen summit
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Still no origin story

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But yeah i read her bio, so more magic

trim dock
keen summit
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i didnt read her name but illari probs

keen summit
limpid agate
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That is not Soundquake

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We dont know what Soundquake looks like

distant sparrow
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zen does sorta want peace

shadow marsh
limpid agate
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Wildebeest

zenith mango
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I’ve been off the Internet for the past 3 weeks so if someone could give me a quick summary of what happened since then that would be very helpful!

eager summit
desert timber
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could doomfist be married or is there lore suggesting the contrary

hushed ivy
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Heya, I found 3 of the 5 lore interactions, have you guys found all of them yet?

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Nvm I found the last 2

eager summit
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Idk if ana was married to pharah’s dad

merry token
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It’s implied they were married in bastet

eager summit
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Fair enough

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That’s 4 then

zenith mango
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I’ve been off the Internet for the past 3 weeks so if someone could give me a quick summary of what happened since then that would be very helpful!

upbeat basalt
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Nah cuz zen is packing out widow and sombra easily WHAT THEY THINK THEY GONNA DO TO THE GOAT

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That’s a free 2v1 for him

rugged wing
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Does anyone else have problems getting teammates on the invasion missions? (Xbox series s)

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Noones answering in general

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Moira said she hasn’t experimented in omnics yet 😀

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it was so cool to see the real shambali

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and the iris

rugged wing
# lavish vessel What kind of problems

Well to start with, I could complete the first two no problem but at the end ow said it needs a server update and since then I can’t get a normal player on any difficulty

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I feel like doom asked them to pick him up to blackmail ramm maybe

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But genji defo gonna save his boi

rugged wing
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Everything else works

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i wonder how rammatra reacted to mondattas death

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does he know talon did it

eager summit
high bluff
eager summit
lavish vessel
high bluff
upbeat basalt
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there needs to be a skin for zen where he’s in his monk robes

high bluff
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I feel like knowing that would make him question some things

upbeat basalt
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or one where he looks like mondatta

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the same rein has one in balderich armor

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high bluff
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feel like if he knew someone as pure as tracer was the one tryna save him itd be different

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high bluff
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not majorly different, but have him questioning

upbeat basalt
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so sad to me that mondatta referenced humans as his brothers and sisters and they did him dirty

upbeat basalt
rugged wing
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If I was Rammatra and had a hatred for humans, I think my anger for a human killing an omnivore who was close to me would overthrow the fact that a human tried to save him and failed 🤷

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Omnic* lol

high bluff
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most humans were accepting him

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if it wasnt for widow things coulda be a lot different

deep canopy
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The bad outweighed the good as far as that went

vagrant folio
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Anyone wanna play

high bluff
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to get london of all places to slowly accept omnics? that woulda been big

eager summit
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I Wonder what Rammatra thinks of Numbani where omnics and human live happily

upbeat basalt
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i also thought rein and bastions interaction was sad

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because he talks about the friends he lost to his kind

high bluff
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orisa vs ramm would be interesting

upbeat basalt
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and torbjorn brushes it off

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deep canopy
eager summit
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Shows that he’s a dude who kinda lives in the past and he has slight ptsd

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twilit patrol
upbeat basalt
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sure it was a long time ago but i think having to remember the war and the people who fought with you would still shake him up today

upbeat basalt
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and torbjorn acts like he needs to get over it

deep canopy
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Yeah but Bastion also lost a lot of his “friends” during that. He wasn’t sentient at the time. He realized afterwards and chose a different path

high bluff
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probably because torb knows rein very personally, and that the best way to deal with it is to get him to fight alongside bastion

deep canopy
distant sparrow
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still waiting for the 4th mission where bastion is sent home dismantled by rein

high bluff
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for someone as protective as rein, seeing bastion fighting to protect him, torb, and especially brigitte, that woulda been much better than trying to coast him into it slowly

upbeat basalt
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that’s true

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i told my friend during that cutscene that i liked how bastions hat goes backwards when he’s in turret form

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it’s like that’s him being fight ready

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and he’s showing it

high bluff
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not to mention you can tell bastion is holding on to the very last second before even starting to whirl up his turret, he wanted to avoid hurting rein in anyway possible

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so overall, torbs actions were valid

deep canopy
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Agreed

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It was just a defensive move

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eager summit
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Bit disappointed that in the cutscenes, dva, pharah, Zarya and bap all only had one line each lol

high bluff
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gimme more pharah >:c

deep canopy
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I’m sure there will be plenty more cutscenes for them though

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I’m quite excited

eager summit
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I Need Bap to meet up with talon again

high bluff
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I feel like pharah and d'va would get on fairly well since they're both flying types

eager summit
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Pilot gals

deep canopy
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Need to see Ana so bad tbh

high bluff
high bluff
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tie that in with pharah

deep canopy
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I want an angsty moment between her and pharah

latent iron
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You’ll be waiting for a while, apparently it takes a whole year to make three missions

high bluff
#

ana mother redemption arc⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️

deep canopy
#

Fr fr

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Cass Said that Jack is off chasing ghosts and I wonder what that means

latent iron
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So next ones will be next year

deep canopy
deep canopy
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Not caught up on his lore

high bluff
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reaper

eager summit
deep canopy
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Yeah that’s true

latent iron
deep canopy
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I’m sure he’s too busy living in the past

high bluff
eager summit
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We still don’t know what caused the Swiss hq to explode

upbeat basalt
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i saw someone say that the enigma (john cena LMAO) could be the person that sombra was spotted by!?!?

high bluff
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tracer would defo be the best person to vent to end of

upbeat basalt
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could this be true

eager summit
high bluff
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I don’t think he’s an actual person in lore

deep canopy
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Would also love another genji and hanzo one

eager summit
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Just a promotional thing

high bluff
upbeat basalt
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yeah no it’d be the enigma as a character not john cena

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upbeat basalt
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i think he’s real

high bluff
deep canopy
eager summit
high bluff
deep canopy
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Needs to be cleared up cause her spot in the lore so far doesn’t make sense

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moira would be on the sidelines of the fight like “my creation, are you going to let him talk to you like that”

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“me personally”

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high bluff
deep canopy
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Yeah because isn’t she supposed to be in her early twenties?

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And genji is late thirties

eager summit
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Speaking of Moira

high bluff
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We need more about oasis and her being a full on minister there

eager summit
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Does that make oasis a semi talon base?

upbeat basalt
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tbh i never really hear minister be used irl so what is that

high bluff
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we need more about pharah in particular, considering she's guarding an important AI research facility

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upbeat basalt
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was she like a principal

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LMAOOO

eager summit
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Moira is the minister of genetics

high bluff
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youd think that would be an important target for ns

deep canopy
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Would love more Pharah

upbeat basalt
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isn’t she defending anubis?

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high bluff
upbeat basalt
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i think that’s what it says in one of her skins

high bluff
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It is an AI research facility so

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and that her team prevented it from escaping

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but wait

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does that mean like

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the exact same program from the first war is still active they just keep it from getting out of control

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Does Rammatra know about Anubis

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If I was a robo terrorist, I’d be going there hella fast

upbeat basalt
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since null sector is already like adding those weird helmet things to omnics and making them unconscious, (which is the same as when they were under anubis, right?) wouldn’t that be a BIG poi for rammatra?

high bluff
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She works for a private security firm, that means they get hired to protect different places

gritty wave
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So she most likely was station at the temple at one point as to protect anubis

eager summit
high bluff
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which would surely mean there was a threat to anubis

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which would surely be a good mission

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placid vessel
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How long ago did the omnic uprising start and how long did it last for?

eager summit
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Bap providing talon intel, pharah providing Anubis intel, the interactions are right there lol

high bluff
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It's mentioned that there was a meeting between her and ana so

eager summit
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No idea how long it lasted

placid vessel
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Was the Uprising mission before Aurora gave her life?

high bluff
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after I think

distant sparrow
eager summit
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After

distant sparrow
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he asks pharah about it

high bluff
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It happened cuz she did it

deep canopy
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The voicelines aren’t canon

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But yes he’s aware of it

placid vessel
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So right now it’s the 2nd time Null Sector is attacking right

eager summit
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Omnic crisis > Overwatch strike team > Aurora sacrifice > Overwatch organisation > null sector formed > uprising mission

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deep canopy
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LMFAO

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deep canopy
eager summit
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Oh

deep canopy
#

Again, not canon

eager summit
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Catfished me

deep canopy
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Would be funny if they were canon I love some of those interactions

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deep canopy
eager summit
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No wait

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It was when Overwatch was still active

deep canopy
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Pretty sure there’s a pinned message of all the events in order with the cinematics

placid vessel
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Was the Recall years ago or months ago

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deep canopy
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Oh no storm calling isn’t in it

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Nvm

high bluff
merry token
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It’s me btw

eager summit
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Sorry guys

high bluff
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tracer needs to tell us

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high bluff
deep canopy
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LMFAO

high bluff
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brigitte mine

eager summit
high bluff
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her new skin got me acting up

deep canopy
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I don’t like it tbh

merry token
eager summit
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Fair

high bluff
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WHATTTT

merry token
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I love the voiceline interactions Brigitte has with Hanzo and Lucio

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Because she’s an artist but she’s embarrassed about her work 😭

eager summit
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I’m rizzing up every Illari main as Bap fr 🫦 support Duo couple

high bluff
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I love when its all girls and j queen is like ALRIGHT LADIES LETS SHOW THE BOYS HOW ITS DONE

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love junker so much istg

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rose stirrup
high bluff
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i'll fight the entirety of overwatch to claim queen

rose stirrup
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Oh my god

high bluff
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istg

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deep canopy
rose stirrup
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The 1000 dollar figure

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The jar will be huge

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high bluff
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especially her metal skin from couple seasons ago 😩😩😩😩

merry token
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Anyways, something something lore only please don’t go off topic 🫡

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rose stirrup
deep canopy
rose stirrup
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I love the uhhhh

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What’d it called

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Gladiator or something

high bluff
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I WANT MORE FAREEHA LORE

rose stirrup
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Executioner

deep canopy
high bluff
deep canopy
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But im an omnic lore enthusiast

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I loveeee omnics

high bluff
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i love her new omnic skin

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got me out here acting like "vipers on station, your journey ends here pilot"

eager summit
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Y’all think symmetra might help out zen since they’re buddies now

deep canopy
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I don’t think so tbh

merry token
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Idk if they’re buddies

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More mentor student like genji n zen ig

eager summit
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Damn you saying genji and zen ain’t buddies 😭

deep canopy
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100% it’s mentor student

eager summit
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You saying Zen says all those jokes and they ain’t homies

deep canopy
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They’re close but I wouldn’t consider them like

merry token
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Mentor student 😔😔

deep canopy
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Best buds

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Genji respects Zenyatta as his mentor

merry token
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Yah

eager summit
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You can be friends with a mentor

high bluff
eager summit
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Especially with one who is like 15 years younger than you lol

deep canopy
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I just feel as if it’s a completely different dynamic

eager summit
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Nahhh zen defo jokes around with Genji, that’s a friend thingy there

deep canopy
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I cant see Zen as the joking type

eager summit
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Genji was alone and angry after ow disbanded, it’s sad to think he wouldn’t consider zen as his friend

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opaque tundra
eager summit
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“Your focus lacks focus, master” “YOUR focus lacks focus”

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deep canopy
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I just can’t see it

opaque tundra
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Yeah but they demonstrate the character’s personalities. It’s why they exist

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Zen is defo no super serious

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Bro does a peace sign in his heroic emote lol

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worthy rose
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https://youtu.be/LBI_uHJD-Xo
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Her and Hanzo NEED to have interactions together, two depressed peeps trying to redeem themselves after hurting loved ones

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||So from what the story told me. They all think Gabriel is dead except Jack.||

chrome plover
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Also ig reinhardt didnt know about bastion

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hushed jetty
chrome plover
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The 3rd mission. Reinhardt found out about him

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By far my favorite cutscene has to be the zenyatta one

distant sparrow
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the new hero origin story

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plucky iris
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Illari's destruction of her friends wasn't intentional I think

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Didn't Hanzo straight up murder Genji?

opal kite
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Hay lore guys, any clue what illari's deal is. From the voice lines she knows moira and has been experiment on but... what elce

restive flower
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she wiped out her own civilization? what the hell

opal kite
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She. . . What?

high bluff
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some ceremony went wrong and she basically become oppenheimer and blew pretty much all her people up

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she was more powerful than they thought - something went wrong with the threading ritual, BOOM

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not her fault

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strongest ow character
nobody even comes close

high bluff
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and she doesn't understand why it happened so she's on a hanzo journey kinda thing

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||Never thought ill see the day that zenyatta stands for a long period of time other than an emote.||

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distant sparrow
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Only with her gun tbf

restive flower
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the "black holes" that zarya and sig are small scale
this chick's a solar powered mini-nuke

eager summit
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Sigma literally controls gravity??

still totem
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Great, another ''Magic'' character

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doomfist wishes he has that on his disposal

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distant sparrow
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sigma could theoretically just.. launch her into space since he controls gravity

eager summit
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Solar energy

distant sparrow
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lets see how the sun helps you against the cold vacuum of space

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or just crush her

eager summit
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It’s funny how you have all these dudes with augments and robotics and shit and then there’s Bap lol

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Love him tho

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Most “normal” character

high bluff
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...when she's a sun warrior?

eager summit
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I’m no physicist but can’t he just literally crush her

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Like literally

high bluff
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also are the guns meant to still be custom in these missions? my pharah is base skin but the gun is the one from my equipped skin

eager summit
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Might be a glitch

high bluff
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think so

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Im sure there is much more science behind her abilities

eager summit
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Definitely

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No magic at all

chrome plover
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Bc it can just be some energy thing

high bluff
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theyre a heavy solar panel city so (like all solar energy i think)

eager summit
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They basically just use solar power technology technically that augments your dna

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That’s it really

chrome plover
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Like the explosion causes the objects hit to have the ability to take tge energy given to it and then explode as a result

eager summit
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Ye, defo science

chrome plover
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But sigmas is definitely magic

hushed ivy
eager summit
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Sigma is 100% science

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Hard sci fi

chrome plover
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Like hers

eager summit
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Doesn’t make it magic tho

hushed ivy
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And even then, solar radiation wouldn’t really keep her alive

twilit patrol
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You really believe in magic ?

chrome plover
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Ya but still. Also another funny thing is that i sucked up her ult as sigma then the next game a sigma sucked my ult

hushed ivy
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The closest character I can think of that’s “magic” is Kiri or the brother

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But there’s probably a explanation for that isn’t there

eager summit
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Kiriko, I deadass don’t know how to explain her powers

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That’s why I feel like she doesn’t fit in

hushed ivy
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Right? It’s definitely based on folklore tho right?

eager summit
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Most likely

hushed ivy
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Seeing how she’s part of a group literally called Yokai

high bluff
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there's a talking monkey with a tesla cannon lmao

eager summit
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Planet of the Apes inspired sci fi in Winston’s character

pastel stirrup
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guys i think they messed the numbers up on the timeline in the email thing

eager summit
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Even zen is explained through the Iris which is hard sci fi

hushed ivy
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We have a hamster that makes oversized balls to fight humans

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For fun

eager summit
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Genji and hanzo is a bit iffy

pastel stirrup
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it says king's row uprising was 10 yrs ago from present day in ow

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shouldn't it be 7

peak escarp
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the timeline got updated

chrome plover
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Ok so genji, hanzo, and kiri are magic. Or the closest to magic. Mainly bc genji got a damn dragon coming outta his blade, hanzo got 2 dragon coming outta an arrow. Kiri got a fox coming out of her sign lango ultimate

peak escarp
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because time has passed since Recall

hushed ivy
pastel stirrup
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wtf

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peak escarp
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seems like it

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pastel stirrup
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doesn't sound right to me idk

pastel stirrup
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a year tops

chrome plover
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Im ok with a bitta magic. Also wasnt there a cinematic where hanzo fights some dragon lady?

eager summit
high bluff
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also why are they suddenly being pushy about fareeha and angela? got nothing against fareeha for being lesbian or anything its just

genji is the one for mercy smh

peak escarp
#

not canon

hushed ivy
#

Crossover

chrome plover
#

Oh. I was so confused

hushed ivy
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May HoTS rest in peace

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😔

chrome plover
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I was wondering who tf she was.

high bluff
peak escarp
#

?

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peak escarp
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I didn't see any

high bluff
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voicelines, the lore thingys

pastel stirrup
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anyone notice in the mondatta assassination cutscene widow's wearing her ow2 skin

high bluff
chrome plover
#

Anyways back to what im saying some of the forms of attacks in each hero is very weird for a war against robots.

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pastel stirrup
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is that a mistake or

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peak escarp
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u can tell by the sleeve and u can also see the hair braided

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hushed ivy
# peak escarp I didn't see any

There’s like 1 voice line between them that’s basically pharah going “I’ll be your knight in shining armour” which what I think they’re referring to?

peak escarp
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that's an old line

hushed ivy
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Ye

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pastel stirrup
high bluff
pastel stirrup
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ill rewatch

hushed ivy
chrome plover
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We got cass who has a revolver, genji and kiri having throwables, and then moira who has a suck.

Both genji and kiri throw their shit so hard it can destroy robots, meanwhile moiras suck is the equivalent to a jet engine i suppose. Cass is just sjooting sniper rounds.

high bluff
hushed ivy
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I mean

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# hushed ivy Haven’t seen it

Basically bap comes out as bi and talks about it with Pharah who confirms she’s a lesbian and says she kinda had a crush on mercy or something like that at one point

chrome plover
hushed ivy
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Revolvers have massive calibres

chrome plover
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She throwing them hard af

peak escarp
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they aren't "pushing" that relationship any more than they normally do

hushed ivy
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pastel stirrup
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they are but whatever

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I'm just hoping they treat it as a sisterhood thing

pastel stirrup
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i can't tell if it's on purpose or a mistake

hushed ivy
peak escarp
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oh yeah, she's so in love 🙄

pastel stirrup
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what's that

high bluff
peak escarp
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Pharah's journal from Invasion

hushed ivy
high bluff
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never said love, just that they're making them a lot closer

chrome plover
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Imagine an event where sigma realizes he has been working for the wrong side the whole time and turns on talon. Overwatch goes after him to try and calm him down and retreat him. BOOM new lore gamemode called Signas Awakening. 1 v 5 where its a boss lvl gamemode. Kinda like the reinhardt demon king gamemode.

peak escarp
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they're friends

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that has always been the case

hushed ivy
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They literally rely on each other to stay alive

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You tend to befriend people like that

peak escarp
#

?

hushed ivy
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Wait have mercy and Pharah not been in a battle together

high bluff
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it's mainly moira that's making him like this

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moira a b*tch both as a hero and lore wise

hushed ivy
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I swear they have

peak escarp
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Pharah only just recently joined Overwatch

eager summit
peak escarp
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Toronto is her first mission with the team

hushed ivy
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Ohhh right

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My bad

peak escarp
eager summit
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Oh my bad

eager summit
pastel stirrup
#

what year is present day ow

eager summit
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Nice to see pure evil characters

chrome plover
#

FREE SIGMA

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i bet at some point in lore sigma will somehow regain his sanity

peak escarp
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his mind is fractured

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it would take a lot to put him back together

sturdy plaza
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This game has lore?

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chrome plover
sturdy plaza
sturdy plaza
chrome plover
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And only for a Low Low price of $15, YOU can play 3 missions with one of them already done in 2019

eager summit
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How lovely

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sturdy plaza
pastel stirrup
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dont they have like comics

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sturdy plaza
eager summit
sturdy plaza
eager summit
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Say what you want but OW but with 30+ characters with lore, how can tf2 have more ?

chrome plover
sturdy plaza
peak escarp
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what does that have to do with anything?

peak escarp
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there are games that were finished 20 years ago, does that mean I shouldn't have to pay for them?

sturdy plaza
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I heard about the one drama thing what I don’t get is Why would they change his name from McCree to Cassidy is what I don’t get

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sturdy plaza
peak escarp
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!!whycassidy

twilit nacelleBOT
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McCree was originally named after a Blizzard employee named Jesse McCree, because he had a cool sounding name. Blizzard no longer associates with that employee due to harassment in the workplace, so they changed the hero's name. Blizzard also committed to not naming in-game characters after staffers anymore.

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pastel stirrup
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and had to leave

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idk what he did

twilit patrol
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Now it's Cassidy

worthy rose
#

Oof wow the kiriko nerf is felt

eager summit
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In lore, they basically explained that Jesse Mccree was just a fake name

twilit patrol
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Get this in your brain

sturdy plaza
eager summit
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It’s weird tho because it they do flashbacks, they still have to call him Jesse for consistency lol

sturdy plaza
chrome plover
pastel stirrup
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nah bruh i can't fathom a 3 yr timeskip between recall and zero hour

sturdy plaza
twilit patrol
peak escarp
pastel stirrup
chrome plover
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Oh nvm then

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Anyways back to lore

worthy rose
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Did they increase kunai rate of fire?

eager summit
sturdy plaza
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Imma explore more channels

chrome plover
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They never went further with the starwatch

pastel stirrup
eager summit
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Mei had to travel from the Antarctic to Gibraltar for 3 years