#lore-discussion

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golden oak
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Yeah but for your whole team

keen summit
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even better than nano, 3x faster ability cds

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so u could get 2 or maybe 3? rezzes of if done right

worthy rose
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When was this made?

peak escarp
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around Blizzcon 2019

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the only things to add to it are the New Blood comic and the new Sojourn short

fresh rock
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Hey Doc! Do we know if the new hero is related to any other heroes in the game? Lore-wise.

golden oak
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We’ll find out in her origin story probably

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Only thing we got teasing her was the peru posters on Antarctic map

spare veldt
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arent they removing the arctic maps?

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i also saw something about removing reaper i didnt know if that was real or not

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seemed kind of a long shot cause what about his skins and stuff

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one can only be hopeful

golden oak
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If it wasn’t on official blizzard site then doubt

golden oak
peak escarp
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we haven't gotten her lore

peak escarp
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even the 2cp maps are still in the game, and can be accessed through custom games

twilit patrol
fresh rock
limpid agate
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They did remove 1 map, Talantis.

hollow tinsel
past copper
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Love the detailed change fr

hollow tinsel
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Why did the original design have clothes on the upper torso 💀 it's a robot, it has nothing there 😭

past copper
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They obviously thought about giving the omincs in Null Sector human appearances

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But clearly decided against that to give them more monstrous looks

paper ocean
peak escarp
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it's the Stalker

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a new enemy unit in the PvE

hushed jetty
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zen does, the civilian omnics in the invasion trailer do, but orisa, echo, bastion (it's just a hat, bro is still naked), and maybe ram dont

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also that one omnic that was dating the human in the widow cinematic was naked too i think

fiery echo
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Orisa is like a centaur, maybe won't feel comfortable have cloths, Bastion don't think can have because transform in a turret. And Ram... somehow he have cloth, haven't he?

hushed jetty
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ram has a cape and thats about it. does he wear pants?

vital ocean
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his outfits do

hushed jetty
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cant send images. crying rn
idk whether to consjder the cloth on his legs "pants"

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not all outfits are canon

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his monk skin is clothed but in current day bro just has cloth and a cape

vital ocean
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i mean

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does he need much else

hushed jetty
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this is true but i just find it interesting how some omnics are clothed and others arent

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like, zen wears pants. but echo is butt naked

fiery echo
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I think the legs' design of Ram are like pants with a few ornaments

peak escarp
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Echo and Bastion don't wear clothes

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the other omnic heroes do

vital ocean
peak escarp
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does a hat count as clothes?

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if you wear nothing but a hat, you're still naked

hollow tinsel
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Yeah lol

hushed jetty
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orisa cant really wear clothes but she is wearing a cloth that covers nothing in particular

peak escarp
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that cloth gets her catcalled in the novel

hushed jetty
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lmao????? i havent read the novel, hilarious if true

peak escarp
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and Orisa insults them back

hushed jetty
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now THIS is the lore i care about

peak escarp
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Orisa is a sweetheart

hushed jetty
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an omnic catcalling another omnic is so funny to me

hollow tinsel
# peak escarp

There's a store in Numbani called sigma bot couture 💀

peak escarp
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yes

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the name is unrelated

hollow tinsel
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Ok lol

shadow marsh
hollow tinsel
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No way

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I want to see it

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😭

vital ocean
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overwatch 3 biggest change: sigma shoes

merry token
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He has some skins with them on lol

cyan zodiac
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Winstonnnnnnn

twilit patrol
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Winton winStare

worldly raptor
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Can someone explain sigmas purpose in the lore to me?

limpid agate
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He doesnt have one right now

mellow stratus
valid fossil
worldly raptor
valid fossil
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Banganana

fringe elk
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Were omnics the same type as ram able to use annihilation?

opaque tundra
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Annihilation is an ability that is not confirmed canon yet. It’s implied Ram invented his own technology or at least had Talon resources to make them, so probably not

golden oak
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Mitzi has a headpiece on her just like Hammond and Winston
Is she modified too?

hollow tinsel
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I think it's just armor

golden oak
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For a cat?

peak escarp
golden oak
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Why

peak escarp
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because Brigitte wanted to be like papa and make armor

wooden tendon
wooden tendon
fringe elk
upbeat basalt
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How did torbjorn rizz up ingrid? is she into short guys

fringe elk
keen summit
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the idea came from a brig teaser with the joke of jetpack cat in the background

keen summit
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btw fun fact, they never added lw origin story to media on their site4Gitte

grand wedge
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There are a lot of media that are not on the official website, unfortunately…

peak escarp
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this is why I keep my own list

twilit patrol
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Really yoShocked

fresh rock
fiery echo
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People, I have a doubt. Tomorrow OW will be available on Steam, that means we have to login now on Steam or now will be 2 launchers (Steam and Battlenet)??

worthy rose
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Hi everyone :]

fiery echo
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Hello!

fiery echo
twilit patrol
worthy rose
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I wonder if the new story missions will include the older characters from OW lore..

worthy rose
worthy rose
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I’m hoping to see all of the characters from the old command team

twilit patrol
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Hum

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I doubt

golden oak
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How did they explain dragon spirits before kiriko release?

twilit patrol
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They never explained that

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They just said it weren't magic

peak escarp
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the writer was asked once in an obscure interview if the dragons were magic and he laughed and said no

golden oak
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Bruh

peak escarp
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aside from that, it was never addressed

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in-game, Hanzo calls them "spirit dragons"

golden oak
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Lifeweaver: I made a type of hard light that is alive!!

Genji and Hanzo: Am I a joke to you?

twilit patrol
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Yeah

peak escarp
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the dragons aren't really alive either

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they're just spirits

twilit patrol
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And I doubt foxs spirits aren't magic

golden oak
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They’re animate tho

hushed jetty
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blizzard just refuses to explain what the hell the dragons are

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which is kinda based but also. please i am begging

peak escarp
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it's not important to the story what they are

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so I doubt they'll ever address it

hushed jetty
twilit patrol
peak escarp
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I'd rather find out how Cassidy lost his arm

hushed jetty
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that too

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how many questions like that are Existent i wonder

golden oak
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There will be Hanzo & kiriko story
Maybe they’ll talk about it

hushed jetty
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ahhhh a shimada/kiriko short story would be nice

twilit patrol
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How Kiriko could not be magic ?

hushed jetty
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the ow team has said that there's no magic in that world

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i have no damn idea what's up with the spirits but its not magic apaprently

peak escarp
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either that was a lie or it was retconned

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I choose to believe it was a lie

hushed jetty
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lmao

peak escarp
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because there's no satisfactory explanation for Hanzo/Genji's dragons as anything but magic

hushed jetty
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actually no you're right, there has to be SOME kind of magic or spiritual powers bc of the dragons and the iris

golden oak
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I guess if the iris can be a thing then spirits also

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Maybe controlling a spirit is a human way of achieving gifts from the iris

peak escarp
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the Iris isn't mystical though

hushed jetty
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i dont think the iris has anything to do with the spirits

golden oak
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Why not

hushed jetty
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i think its more like a ? place? like a heaven/nirvana of sorts?

peak escarp
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the Iris was the moment of connection between Aurora and all the omnics on earth

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and I guess the yellow glowy hardlight mandala that we saw in Genesis

golden oak
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Well who said it could only affect other omnics

peak escarp
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?

golden oak
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Just saying, it was an unknown phenomenon that could possibly affect human bodies also

peak escarp
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how would it affect human bodies when it's something transmitted over a global computer network?

twilit patrol
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That's strange

peak escarp
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maybe if they're like Sojourn and have brain implants

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but also it was a one-time thing

golden oak
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Yeah so they had no possibility of checking what that actually did

peak escarp
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the result was pretty immediate

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omnics all over the world stopped fighting

golden oak
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But it was very much experimental

spare fox
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I used to theorize the Shimada dragons were hard light tech, related to their tattoos (tattoos are super important for yakuza)
But then Kiriko came out and I guess it's magic/spirits after all?

golden oak
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Yeah, also I think the spirits are inherited in some way, since kiriko learned to communicate with the fox from her grandma and shimada brothers probably learned it from their parents

twilit patrol
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Kiriko looks like magic yeah

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She’s healing with papers

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She teleports herself

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We’ve never seen it in Overwatch lore

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How could they explain ?

golden oak
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She literally throws a bell at people, that’s what suzu is

stuck stump
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Is dva putting on a persona when she's working

peak escarp
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yes

sly kettle
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just watched the new animated short with Sojourn

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I cried

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loved it

peak escarp
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it's great

shadow marsh
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PvE is now 16 hours left

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It's happening

glacial zinc
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Or in game

stuck stump
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what is she like when not woking

glacial zinc
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Read new blood

peak escarp
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watch Shooting Star

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that's her personality "off camera"

upbeat basalt
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who do u think has the worst trauma

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out of the entire roster

peak escarp
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Mei

worthy rose
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yea

upbeat basalt
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meis is tragic but what about rein, or even hanzo?

peak escarp
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Hanzo caused his own trauma

worthy rose
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that was both their fault

peak escarp
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and Reinhardt's trauma was 30 years ago

worthy rose
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mei didnt do anything

peak escarp
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Mei's trauma is fresh

upbeat basalt
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thats true

peak escarp
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she saw her entire team die, that would mess anyone up

peak escarp
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and yet, Mei was strong enough to keep going

upbeat basalt
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what was it like for tracer to be phasing in and out of reality

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was she sent anywhere lol

peak escarp
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she was out of phase with reality

upbeat basalt
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i wonder what that would look like to her

peak escarp
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she was basically a ghost

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she could see the world, but not interact with it

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and nobody could see her

upbeat basalt
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ohhhhh

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if i was herr

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i would probably go insnae

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insane

dreamy karma
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why isnt there croos play comp

upbeat basalt
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because it would be unfair to console players

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the best console players still struggle to keep up with pc players

graceful wave
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does winston have a bbc

peak escarp
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a what

peak escarp
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yes

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they're part of her suit

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because she needs to have them for the game

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here's her without the suit on

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they would get in the way

hollow tinsel
merry token
hollow tinsel
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Yeah. Or she's trying to not engage in a convo with them 😭

peak escarp
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oh I know what it means

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I want them to incriminate themselves so they get banned

upbeat basalt
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thats smart

autumn delta
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is there a lore reason for why my tank is so fucking stupid

mellow briar
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Skill matchmaking

static plank
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i just taught of a sigma line that has a COMPLETELY different meaning now with the OW animated vids on youtube,
Sigma says in a conversation with zen: that he met the iris.
This could mean sigma actually met her.
https://youtu.be/s06om05hCVE

spare fox
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yeah there's got to be SOMETHING going on with quantum physics and omnic sentience I'll bet

static plank
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People view sigma as crazy tho, but if he actually met her then how and/or when. He still is a genius

spare fox
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My theory is either Sigma's experiment gone wrong either caused Aurora's ascendance or vice versa, OR at the very least Talon wants Sigma in hopes to replicate it again, either to make more sentient omnics or end the sentience to begin with

static plank
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Hold up when you think about it is zen not only omnic that can float? Just like sigma, or are there more omnics that can float like zen?

spare fox
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iirc, it has something to do with the iris

static plank
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I wonder now if there are other hero's that talk about the iris in game/cutscenes in conversation or voice line

spare fox
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now that I'm thinking about it, yeah it is strange that we don't get a lot of insight into any omnic characters other than Zen (not until Ramattra's release and even then it's limited)

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Orisa and Echo aren't omnics and don't have sentience like the original omnics do - they're pretty much brand new
and Bastion doesn't speak

static plank
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Bastion does speak tho but we can't understand him i think he and ram talk to each other

spare fox
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it's what made the anime shorts interesting because we got to hear about the crisis from that Grant omnic guy

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ok I know he communicates but not in a way we can fully understand like, we're not getting him giving his full perspective or anything

candid ruin
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Who's the strongest character

bleak shell
candid ruin
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?

bleak shell
ruby ridge
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The writers

candid ruin
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Ppl says it’s doom or winton

merry mason
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Doom got worfed by orisa and winton

candid ruin
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So he got 2v1ed

hollow tinsel
candid ruin
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Overall

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If everyone had a 1v1 who would win

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Like A 1v1 tournament

merry mason
hushed ivy
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Isn’t it Sigma?

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Also, what is Nano exactly? Is it like a massive shot of adrenaline?

merry mason
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Nanobots

shadow marsh
hushed ivy
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Yep

peak escarp
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but he's not the strongest

candid ruin
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K

strange rock
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damn u got k’d

spare fox
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No one ever asks who the weakest hero is 🤔

peak escarp
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a few people have

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the answer is Mei or Zenyatta

hollow meteor
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are we talking damage output

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or as a whole

peak escarp
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as a whole

hollow meteor
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oh

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kk

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i would say cassidy is the strongest character

peak escarp
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Mei is inexperienced, and Zenyatta is just a regular omnic who can heal somehow

hollow meteor
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there isnt a fight he loses inside the book/videos

peak escarp
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how does that make him the strongest?

hollow meteor
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hes kinda more skilled then everyone except soilder

peak escarp
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he's just a dude with fast hands and a good eye

hollow meteor
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yeah

peak escarp
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Ana and Widowmaker are better shots than him

hollow meteor
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thats casue they have snipers

peak escarp
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he's not very strong physically, aside from his cybernetic arm

hollow meteor
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yeah i guess

peak escarp
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Soldier and Reaper have more tactical skill

hollow meteor
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fair

peak escarp
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Cassidy is nothing special in terms of power level

hollow meteor
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but he certatnly has lots of skill

peak escarp
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he does

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but so do most of the heroes

hollow meteor
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okay then who is the strongest

peak escarp
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Sigma
Symmetra
Winston
Orisa
Doomfist

hollow meteor
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whos the smartest

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i would say symmetra

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or sigma

peak escarp
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Winston probably

hollow meteor
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oh yeah

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he is so smart

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but what about sigma

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man is crazy smart

peak escarp
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he is

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but what about the other heroes who have doctorates

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Mei, Mercy, Moira

spare fox
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it's such a hard question to answer if not impossible
just like with "strongest," there's a bunch of different ways of interpretting "smartest"

candid ruin
hushed ivy
peak escarp
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lol

merry mason
candid ruin
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Ok

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What about dva. With no mech

peak escarp
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yeah she'd be pretty weak

candid ruin
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She has no power or strength

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Just a weak pistol

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With no physical combat experience

peak escarp
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well

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she is a member of the Korean army

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she probably has some hand-to-hand combat training

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basic training

candid ruin
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She’s like 1ft

torpid copper
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This isn't war, this is liberation. The invasion is apon us.

candid ruin
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I will never pay for that shit pve

peak escarp
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good for you

candid ruin
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Ty

peak escarp
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I will pay for it

candid ruin
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💀

peak escarp
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I've waited 4 years for this

candid ruin
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💀

lavish vessel
hollow tinsel
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Communism 🤯

distant sparrow
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does sombra actually like sigma

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not in a relationship way

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but out of all the talon members

lavish vessel
lavish vessel
loud raptor
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this might be an old question, BUT: are we gonna be able to buy old mythic skins someday? like in valorant, where you can buy legendary skins some months later

peak escarp
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they said they'll consider it, but currently don't have plans to bring them back

loud raptor
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or like some special event, where you have to work for it, to gain mythic points which allow you to buy them

hushed jetty
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id say its not too unlikely that they have met

candid ruin
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They would make more money

loud raptor
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oh damn, i am in the wrong channel. 😄

candid ruin
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Who cares tbh

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It's not that serious

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No 1 is gonna die

mellow willow
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I’m sorry if this is asked a lot:

When overwatch stopped the omnic crisis, what happened to normal omnics? Like the peaceful ones that are seen protesting. I’m assuming the omnic crisis only had a certain type of omnic attacking, and there were ones that were peaceful? And then after the crisis was over, the violent ones were Null Sector?

hushed jetty
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the null sector robots are specifically produced by ramattra and arent sentient

desert timber
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so does john cena have any lore implications

distant sparrow
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what happened in paris

desert timber
# distant sparrow what happened in paris

Paris is the capital city of France. It was a site of civil unrest during the Omnic Crisis. At some point in the decades that followed, Paris was identified as a hotspot by Overwatch.

Paris was one of the locations Junkrat and Roadhog raided during their heist.

In the present, Paris is one of the most important art cities in the world, shown through its rebuilt architecture, galleries, and street art. It is a hot tourist destination with many restaurants and clubs to bring people in.

distant sparrow
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ok

mellow willow
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is the "zero hour" short, where the Null Sector is attacking Paris, is that basically when all the heroes are answering Winston's recall as seen in OW1 cinematics?

hushed jetty
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the null sector attack on paris happens a year after recall iirc

distant sparrow
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do we ever see the invasion

karmic turret
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omd lore!!!

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LOREEEEE

hushed jetty
distant sparrow
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ok

hushed jetty
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they GIVE US A TIMELINE????
BLESSSSS

mellow willow
mellow willow
hushed jetty
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given they seem surprised to see genji and rein there, they didnt seem to have any prior contact with them

karmic turret
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awe i love this

mellow willow
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yea thats true

karmic turret
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shes just like MEEE

hushed jetty
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blankieco 💀

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i need to buy this shit asap. take my 15 bucks NOW

karmic turret
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so nice to have iggy in game

mellow willow
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and Talon basically just is trying to create tension between humans and omnics to create more null sector attacks right?

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like from the little lore ive seen thats what it seems like

hushed jetty
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uh no

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doomfist's goal is to cause humanity to evolve by fucking things up

mellow willow
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oh

hushed jetty
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like natural selection but With People

mellow willow
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why did they assasinate

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the omnic guy

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like widow

hushed jetty
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important civil leader. big target

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we dont know the exact reason though

mellow willow
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oh gotchu

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so is talon pretty mysterious still in their motives

hushed jetty
mellow willow
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ohhhh

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ok

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bro ur pfp is cool cuz on my monitor

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like the red eye

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is like one pixel

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so its glowing its so weird

hushed jetty
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thamk you

mellow willow
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yw

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but yea im excited to learn more of this story but its just kinda hard to piece together the timeline in my head

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but hopefully itll make sense when i see the in game one

hushed jetty
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yeah we dont have a big official timeline which is unfortunate, i wish we did

mellow willow
hushed jetty
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idk how much that includes

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thats the most specific timeline we've ever had though

sudden crystal
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THEY ADDED A WHOLE ASS STORY MODE

peak escarp
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we now have an official timeline

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OW2 seems to be 3 years after OW1

wraith veldt
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Nice

karmic turret
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Guys click the photo on the missions page

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athena and winston talk to eachother

shadow marsh
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Thanks Athena

sudden crystal
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I’m literally Ramattra

tardy vector
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i think illari has some form of ptsd from what i've seen from her voicelines

distant sparrow
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rip zen talon found him

sudden crystal
distant sparrow
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same

sudden crystal
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Ngl this shit was fire af

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But like 3 missions in 4 years is crazy

distant sparrow
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ikr

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idk if there will be any more

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i hope

sudden crystal
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Def will be

distant sparrow
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lets hope for free

sudden crystal
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they set up a bunch of stuff definitely gonna be more

shadow marsh
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Ending Spoiler of Gottenburg

||The ending dialogue with Ram Zen and Mondatta is so damn beautiful, shame that not everyone gets to experience the story mission because of the paywall.||

sudden crystal
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every month they needa add a new mission or sum

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then its good

shadow marsh
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Unfortunately it's announced the next story missions will be in 2024

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Damn shame

sudden crystal
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Dogshit corporation

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This is why capitalism needs to be eradicated bruh Ramattra is right

shadow marsh
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Blizzard is to be blamed tbh

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The overwatch devs did a good job with PvE

twilit patrol
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Wow

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It was amazing

karmic turret
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Damn, the cinematics for the PVE are amazing

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The next set of missions are gonna be crazy

distant sparrow
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does anyone have the full speech of ramattra in toronto

quick sleet
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is it like, every season we'll get 3 more lore missions?

limpid agate
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No

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2024

distant sparrow
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bruh

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2024?

quick sleet
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💀

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with blizzard promises we will get it in 4 years after it will be watered down

distant sparrow
stuck stump
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whats the story mode like

sudden crystal
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they setup stuff for future missions shoudlve alreadyu had those missions ready for launch like next month

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instead of 2024 whi h is craz

pallid tulip
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Hi there does anyone know why I cant max out antialising quality on the graphic settings the ultra option doesnt even appear for me swag

shut fog
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Hello my game overwatch keeps kicking me out only on the map dorado, every other map is completely fine however I always result in bans and my ban time goes up everytime because it freezes and kicks me onto a black screen then says I’ve been removed for inactivity, I always get a loss in this and for someone who wants to climb high ranks is very frustrating

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Pls help

silent schooner
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im pretty sure moira made illari

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there’s a voice line when you kill moira as illari and she says something about not being her guinea pig

golden oak
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That doesn’t mean anything

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Moira is known for unethical experiments, she’s most likely referring to that

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That she wouldn’t let moira experiment on her

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She doesn’t know her most likely tho

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It’s like dva saying “this rabbit fights back”

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She didn’t meet moira tho

stuck stump
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is moira widely known

golden oak
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Yeah, it’s just her expressing her view of moira (which most characters have similar)

limber tundra
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Omnic Saul Goodman

opaque tundra
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||I love Reggie. I bet he’s gonna be responsible for abolishing the Petras Act||

limber tundra
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its such a good design

sudden crystal
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reggie a lil bitch messing up my legendary runs

karmic turret
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illari never got an origin story did she!!

hushed jetty
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i imagine it'll come today or maybe tomorrow bc it's not very obvious from her design what her lore is

sudden crystal
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RAMATTRA IS LITERALLY ME

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my man is a Maoist

zinc quiver
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Mission 3 spoilers || TALON JUMPED ZENYATTA OH NO BRO monkaW ||

opaque tundra
young lily
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Why is the United Nations priority to stop overwatch from saving the world (the only people who can) instead of actually stopping null sector

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There’s gotta be some internal talon agent in there that’s high in management

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cause otherwise it doesn’t make sense

zinc quiver
spare fox
#

that's entirely possible OR maybe they're trying to nip OW at the bud before it becomes what happened again last time

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like Winston and Sojourn were talking about, it all started with a handful of agents during the crisis too

civic prairie
#

can someone tell me in less than a sentence or two with no spoilers if the missions are any good?

#

im a big lore fan

spare fox
#

they are good

civic prairie
#

okie, thanks

hollow tinsel
#

Is it just me, or is illari my new favorite character 😭

spare fox
#

they're not knocking my socks off but they're definitely replayable in order to unlock all the lore bits

worthy rose
hollow tinsel
#

💀

hollow tinsel
#

And I think it is just you btw 🤷

twilit patrol
#

It was 10 years ago when Ramattra left the Shambali ?

stuck stump
#

Is Ramattra completely evil?

zinc quiver
peak escarp
#

which would be 14 years ago

worthy rose
woven grail
worthy rose
woven grail
worthy rose
#

Must feel Brad to be you

woven grail
hollow tinsel
woven grail
hollow tinsel
#

💀💀💀

peak escarp
#

stop

hollow tinsel
#

Sorry doc

fresh rock
#

Oh my god

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Just came back from the missions

#

That was incredible

#

We just got some filling for some gaps

#

That was incredible and I hope that more comes in the next couple of months.

peak escarp
#

yeah this really satisfied the itch

worthy rose
worthy rose
peak escarp
#

I don't think so?

worthy rose
#

Oh ok

peak escarp
worthy rose
#

Oh! Thx.. ! Had that whole Section closed 🥲😭

fresh rock
#

Seems as if the leaked animation about talon going after Zen was actually real

#

That's gonna be exciting, I wonder how that's going to work

peak escarp
#

leaked?

#

it was from Blizzconline

fresh rock
#

It WAS?

peak escarp
#

yes

fresh rock
#

I.. didn't know that! Thanks Doc!

peak escarp
dark lichen
#

The log stuff they've added alongside the PvE missions is super cool.

#

Getting a kick out of some of the text interactions they have through the chat rooms.

fresh rock
#

Exactly!

ancient iron
#

Whats the lore with Mondatta,Zenyatta,and Ramattra?

peak escarp
#

they were all members of the Shambali, a religious order of monks dedicated to the Iris

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Mondatta was their leader, who was assassinated 10 years ago at the King's Row uprising

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Ramattra was a Ravager unit from the crisis who was searching for meaning with the Shambali, but decided their methods weren't working

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Zenyatta was brought to the Shambali by Ramattra, and rose to a high rank among the Shambali before leaving in search of his own way to bridge the gap between humans and omnics

ancient iron
#

ok thanks!

past copper
#

Definitely enjoyed the story missions. I could play those for hours whenever PvP matches suck

sudden crystal
#

my man is launching a national liberation war for the liberation of his people

#

babased

past copper
#

Welp. We’ve got Invasion. Next 3 missions will probably revolve around Talon next time

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And first mission is to save Zenyatta. Can wait to see how Sombra and Widowmaker act like game bosses

fresh rock
#

Sweet!

#

I've been waitin' for Talon to show up :]

worthy rose
#

this season is so good

#

so much new stuff

#

all fun

#

why is the new girl so angry

hushed jetty
#

we dont know anything abt her yet

#

but she doesnt seem angry to me

#

certainly serious

worthy rose
#

maybe angry was the wrong word

peak escarp
#

read her bio

worthy rose
#

but definitely a bit cold

#

or callous when healing

peak escarp
#

she's the last survivor of a group of elite warriors who were wiped out when she went supernova during her investment ceremony

#

she's got good reason to be cold

worthy rose
#

yeah that would do it

hushed jetty
peak escarp
fresh rock
#

That just looks cool

peak escarp
#

it went boom

fresh rock
#

OH! I forgot to watch the video

worthy rose
# peak escarp

that just look like a disaster waiting to happen! if it falls down, game over.

peak escarp
#

her lore video hasn't been released yet

#

there's three images in her bio

vapid ledge
#

Really enjoyed the interactions between characters and the really great cutscenes

#

Definitely felt like these missions helped expand the lore of ow

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But man these missions felt dry and boring for me gameplay wise. I hope i wasnt the only one who felt that way

desert yacht
peak escarp
#

yes

#

sorry

#

he was held hostage at the Uprising

#

he was assassinated in Alive, which is 3 years or so before present

wise badger
#

Gency got murdered.
Pharmercy is thriving.

peak escarp
#

?

woven jewel
#

Mercy said "Pharah" when she saw Pharah is what I think they might be referring to

#

Excitedly

peak escarp
#

oh no, she greeted someone she knows

#

stop the presses

woven jewel
#

hehe

wise badger
peak escarp
#

I did

#

I didn't see anything Pharmercy in there

pseudo cipher
#

lmao

#

oh no, looks like zen is joining talon!

#

sarcasm obviously

#

but dam the cliffhangers

peak escarp
#

Pharmercy stans will see what they want to see

pseudo cipher
#

yea

#

tho I wonder who her actual love interest is

#

mercy I mean

#

its probably genji

#

unless they retconned that

peak escarp
#

maybe

pseudo cipher
#

chu left and all

peak escarp
#

doesn't mean they would change that just because he left

pseudo cipher
#

yeah, I just feel like he was the biggest gency stan

#

other devs probably didnt feel too much on it

woven jewel
#

agency

pseudo cipher
#

I like that

#

doc patient agency

#

is it just me that loves sojourn even more after pve?

peak escarp
#

does that still apply after he's no longer her patient?

pseudo cipher
#

I find her the most well written there

peak escarp
#

I've loved Sojourn ever since I read her novel

pseudo cipher
#

someone that understands, theres a lot of layers to her but somehow some people find her flat

peak escarp
#

Torbjorn had some good moments in the Gothenburg mission

#

being a real dad

pseudo cipher
#

oh absolutely

#

I actually felt really bad for him

#

FOR TORB

#

that moment when bastion went turret form on rein made me lose it

#

its a nice surprise how some of the missions have a sizable roster to pick from

peak escarp
#

the mug... 😭

pseudo cipher
#

really gotta see all the interactions

#

indeed...

#

literally all my friends are saying to make a movie already

#

wholesomewatch is addicting

stuck stump
#

Wholesomewatch?

pseudo cipher
#

absolutely

#

pve just warms the heart

#

torb ;_;

stuck stump
#

Are all the characters featured?

peak escarp
#

no

#

only 17 heroes appear in the story missions

dreamy karma
dreamy karma
peak escarp
#

it would be difficult to shove every hero into these 3 missions

#

only heroes who are part of Overwatch are involved

#

plus Lucio and Bastion

pseudo cipher
dreamy karma
pseudo cipher
#

tough love

dreamy karma
#

law>

pseudo cipher
#

he is goated indeed

dreamy karma
maiden hound
#

Holy shit I'm sorry but

The iris is a physical object? It isn't some coding thing or a intangible being or just something they made up to explain why they think they got sentience

It's physically there

peak escarp
#

it seems to be made of energy

#

but yes

woven jewel
#

What is its relationship with Aurora again?

peak escarp
#

we saw this in the Genesis animation

#

Aurora became the Iris when she transcended

woven jewel
#

Gotcha

merry token
#

I see that they ret-conned brigitte’s musculature 😭

peak escarp
#

blame the model artists

merry token
#

It’s like, I expected this would happen, but I’m still disappointed

hushed jetty
#

id love to see a talon pve event in the future
like, playing as talon members

#

lord knows what the goal would be but it sounds fun

peak escarp
#

that would be fun

#

not sure who they'd be fighting though

hushed jetty
#

right thats the question

#

maybe overwatch, and set it in the past?

tribal wadi
pseudo cipher
#

I was talking about junker pve

#

hog is popular anyways

#

its a no brainer

fresh rock
#

Too many tanks

stuck stump
#

Is roadhog good

peak escarp
#

like, morally good?

#

he is wanted for murder

pseudo cipher
#

lmao definitely not

#

isnt he one of the only playable murderers?

#

most ow heroes seem clean

#

like humans not bots

#

"I killed someone for less than that!"

peak escarp
#

the majority of heroes have killed

#

about half have killed humans

merry token
peak escarp
#

the only ones who haven't killed anyone at all are... Zenyatta, Lifeweaver, Orisa, probably Sigma

pseudo cipher
#

wait seriously?

#

even tracer?

peak escarp
#

she has killed omnics

pseudo cipher
peak escarp
#

well actually

#

hold on

pseudo cipher
#

not counting omnics

peak escarp
#

let me list them

merry token
pseudo cipher
#

but pve did a good job with the toronto one

worthy rose
#

When sigma did his experiment

peak escarp
#

there probably were

#

doesn't mean he killed them

pseudo cipher
#

did widowmaker actually kill husbands?

worthy rose
#

the windows broke and seemed to put sigma in the vacuum of space, however

plucky iris
#

doesnt sigma throw black holes or something?

worthy rose
#

and tosses them out

plucky iris
#

isnt he also an elderly schizophrenic that got tortured

worthy rose
#

From what we've heard in the lore, his brain is being "fried"

#

and Sombra is worried about him

#

so probably he is

pseudo cipher
#

he seems far more gone than widow

#

widow seems to show hints of recovering

plucky iris
#

i know its a fictional game but wouldnt that be crazy amount of power to someone insane

stuck stump
#

Widow redemption arc

worthy rose
#

he can't make his own choices anymore

#

he's sorta like Robocop

pseudo cipher
#

lmao

stuck stump
#

As in he's mentally incapable of thinking for himself?

peak escarp
#

Killed humans: Ana, Ashe, Baptiste, Cassidy, Genji, Hanzo, Kiriko, Mercy, Moira, Ramattra, Reaper, Roadhog, Sombra, Symmetra, Widowmaker, Winston, Illari
Killed omnics: Junker Queen, Junkrat, Reinhardt, Sojourn, Soldier, Torbjorn, Wrecking Ball, Zarya
Killed drones: Bastion, Brigitte, D.Va, Echo, Lucio, Mei, Pharah, Tracer
Not killed anyone: Lifeweaver, Orisa, Sigma, Zenyatta

plucky iris
#

they mentioned after the toronto mission soldier 76 chasing reaper

plucky iris
#

how can he kill reaper though?

#

all he has is a gun

peak escarp
#

Mercy was part of the Storm Rising mission, where she fought Talon agents

worthy rose
peak escarp
#

even as a medic, I find it hard to believe she didn't fire a single shot

pseudo cipher
peak escarp
#

no, those were humans

pseudo cipher
#

monkaW

merry token
pseudo cipher
plucky iris
#

lore wise who is the strongest characters tho

worthy rose
#

alright, I'll have to ask you if someone didn't already

so what's going on with Genji and Mercy?

worthy rose
peak escarp
merry token
plucky iris
#

arent moira and reaper like ghosts though

#

they got that wraith thing

#

lifesteal

pseudo cipher
#

Symmetra seems pretty busted with her hard light

peak escarp
#

they can turn into smoke

#

doesn't necessarily make them powerful

#

makes them hard to kill

plucky iris
#

isnt winston just a gorilla though?

peak escarp
#

he's a genetically enhanced gorilla

pseudo cipher
peak escarp
#

who has canonically beaten Reaper twice and Doomfist once

pseudo cipher
#

yea like ham

plucky iris
#

hes like a dumb gorilla grodd that isnt evil right

worthy rose
peak escarp
#

Twitter will jump at the slightest crumb

peak escarp
#

Blizzard keeps hinting at both to keep both invested

pseudo cipher
merry token
#

Knight in flying armor is kind of baiting ngl

worthy rose
#

because of that interaction in pve

stuck stump
#

Will they ever make a final decision

peak escarp
#

maybe

merry token
pseudo cipher
merry token
#

Would prefer mercy be aro because of the edaters 🫡🫡

peak escarp
#

I want Pharah to find happiness with someone better than Mercy

plucky iris
#

how would you guys feel if they cancelled pve a few years from now then wrapped up the story in a book you bought off their store

stuck stump
#

Better than mercy?

merry token
peak escarp
#

better for her

peak escarp
#

Mercy seems too dedicated to her work for a proper relationship

merry token
peak escarp
#

yep

pseudo cipher
#

shes never too dedicated to use that pistol

worthy rose
merry token
#

I honestly would not mind if more of the cast were given npc partners

hushed jetty
#

wish i could send images but i love the chat logs

||winston: let's make the world a better place! :)
baptiste: Ok||

peak escarp
#

I don't really care about the heroes' relationships

worthy rose
#

that stuff was funny

peak escarp
#

this isn't a dating sim

pseudo cipher
#

I love when dva called the bots trash and ez

worthy rose
stuck stump
merry token
peak escarp
#

maybe

#

it was popular

worthy rose
#

I'm hoping the next batch of PVE includes two missions of Talon, but then one with 76; reuniting with Reaper

plucky iris
#

yeah

#

low effort and popular

#

theyll probably do something similar to sell more skins

peak escarp
#

I just want a Wedding themed season, where we celebrate the wedding of Lena and Emily

worthy rose
plucky iris
#

hanzo skin was nice

pseudo cipher
merry token
#

Cupid Hanzo got me

plucky iris
#

shot through the heart

#

and im to blame

stuck stump
#

You give love a bad name

hushed jetty
plucky iris
#

who is enigma

#

where is john cena

#

this advertising lied to me

peak escarp
stuck stump
#

How long have they been together for

worthy rose
hushed jetty
#

lena kneels down mid null sector attack and proposes. everyone applauds, even the robots

peak escarp
#

lol

plucky iris
#

cleared resistance liberation ironclad and underworld

#

not one mention of him

worthy rose
peak escarp
#

missions need to have at least 4 heroes

plucky iris
#

kiriko

#

as supp

peak escarp
#

and I don't think Hanzo will leave Tokyo

worthy rose
#

I'd think we should have at least one or two solo missions

#

that's just me, I like to play single player games lmao

#

which is why I want a soldier 76 mission

peak escarp
#

Hanzo is one of the heroes being featured in the short story collection next year

stuck stump
#

Does kiriko have a so

plucky iris
#

what is soldier 76 even doing

peak escarp
#

which seems to be focusing on heroes that aren't in the main story

worthy rose
peak escarp
worthy rose
#

Oh

#

Damn

plucky iris
#

would that be talon?

peak escarp
#

seems to be

merry token
plucky iris
#

looks like they replace soldier 76 with sojourn in the story

worthy rose
#

A co op mission with Ana and Jack would be pretty cool

peak escarp
#

she is the most experienced

stuck stump
#

We need more bawb

peak escarp
#

makes sense that she would be the new leader

plucky iris
#

character that wasnt in game until a few months ago lol

worthy rose
#

Honestly? Would've thought Reinhardt considering how long he's fought

#

I know he's more of a bashing man

plucky iris
#

makes you wonder what story will be when overwatch 3 releases

peak escarp
#

Reinhardt wasn't part of the original leadership team

worthy rose
peak escarp
#

also he was forced to retire after a mission gone bad

peak escarp
#

Sojourn was acting Strike Commander after Jack, Gabe and Ana all went MIA

plucky iris
#

wouldnt it make more sense to kill off old characters like in mmos to replace them with new ones

worthy rose
#

Another thing- how did we never have Lucio and Overwatch ever interact despite being in the game for years?

#

That feels so weird

plucky iris
#

assuming overwatch still is a thing 7 years from now

peak escarp
#

Lucio was only active in Rio

#

Overwatch was a global force

peak escarp
#

and afaik, Lucio only rose to fame very recently, after Overwatch had already disbanded

worthy rose
#

Jesus christ I'm glad you exist with the more questions I have to ask

why did Zarya join overwatch, considering how Russia probably would view them as enemies

peak escarp
#

Cassidy recruited her

#

read New Blood #4

pseudo cipher
#

he did yeah

peak escarp
#

in fact, read all of New Blood

worthy rose
#

I only read retribution and the tracer comics

peak escarp
#

that comic shows how Pharah, Baptiste, Zarya and D.Va end up joining Overwatch

worthy rose
#
  • the short story about reaper and sombra
plucky iris
#

im not a big fan how games these days make you read comics, read books, watch series to see all the story

worthy rose
plucky iris
#

is my biggest gripe with halo rn

worthy rose
plucky iris
#

halo used to be real simple before all that

#

at least overwatch is free for now

worthy rose
#

The thing is- where would Blizzard place this lore?

peak escarp
#

all of the Overwatch lore is free except the 3 novels and the 3 story missions

#

they really should put the relevant comics in the game

worthy rose
#

Sure, make a series.

But I'd think it takes a long time for a decently big studio to make these animations

#

like I'm guessing it took millions and hard cracking to create the genesis series

plucky iris
#

animated series wont take long

#

idk why they havent started one yet

#

same with nintendo

worthy rose
#

I'm waiting on a Sigma cinematic, to how Moira brought him to be how he is

#

and possibly how Sombra became amused with him

peak escarp
#

Moira?

#

she didn't do anything to him

worthy rose
#

Didn't moira put that thing on his head?

plucky iris
#

isnt sombra the most evil character

worthy rose
peak escarp
plucky iris
#

moira and doomfist trying to evolve humanity or smth

peak escarp
#

for the story missions to make sense, I reccomend Zero Hour, New Blood, Binary and London Calling

stuck stump
#

From what I know I'd say Moira is probably the most evil

worthy rose
peak escarp
#

Moira is experimenting on him

#

but he was like that before she ever got to him

worthy rose
#

I'm thinking that's how she has the ability to suck people's matter out now

plucky iris
#

didnt sombra blackmail that arms factory person or something

worthy rose
#

she blackmailed Katya Volskaya

peak escarp
#

yes

plucky iris
#

sounds evil to me

worthy rose
#

she only did it for her resources

stuck stump
#

Not as evil as killing people though

worthy rose
#

not for talon

merry token
#

Morally grey or smth

worthy rose
#

The most evil person is junkrat

peak escarp
#

she's certainly not a good person

worthy rose
#

he only lusts for chaos

plucky iris
#

whatd junk do

peak escarp
#

Sombra only does things that further her own interests

worthy rose
plucky iris
#

i dont get roadhog either'

#

hes a giant meatball

worthy rose
#

Roadhog assisted him in it

plucky iris
#

how has anyone not shot him dead yet

#

dudes got no armor

peak escarp
#

it's likely Sombra has been giving Soldier info on Reaper

worthy rose
#

Which does make alot of sense tbf

mellow grove
plucky iris
#

better yet how is his heart not giving out every few steps he takes

#

is there a lore reason for that?

#

i find that more curious than the iris spirit dragon fox juju stuff

worthy rose
#

He's just that

peak escarp
#

because he's mostly muscle

worthy rose
#

Yeah

#

he throws a damn hook across the map

peak escarp
#

also being fat doesn't automatically mean you have a bad heart or poor health

#

some people are just big

stuck stump
#

I imagine junker queen isn't exactly the best person either

plucky iris
#

junker queen is huge

worthy rose
plucky iris
#

so is road and junk

worthy rose
#

treat her people in a decent way at least

plucky iris
#

what are they feeding these people

#

or are they mutated like in mad max

worthy rose
#

despite being chaotic herself

plucky iris
#

from radiation

peak escarp
#

they are slightly irradiated

worthy rose
#

Also, in actual lore-

Does Ana really just sit there shooting syringes at Jack and Gabe

#

sounds funny lmao

peak escarp
#

yep

stuck stump
peak escarp
#

little darts filled with biotic juice

worthy rose
plucky iris
#

assuming omnics are a race of people

#

why are junkerqueen roadhog and junkrat racist

peak escarp
#

because the government gave "their land" to the omnics after the crisis

worthy rose
#

I'd like to know for a friend-

Baptiste has a friend, a big guy (who might be a tank in season 8 according to many dropped dev hints)
Who's he?

peak escarp
#

they formed the Australian Liberation Front to get it back, and ended up blowing up an omnium

plucky iris
#

i thought like 99% of people in australia live in coastal cities im prob wrong tho

peak escarp
#

Junkertown is built on the remains of that omnium

#

the rest of Australia is normal

#

it's just Junkertown that is Mad Max

worthy rose
#

Yeah, him

#

he's said to be the next tank in December/January

#

do you know any juicy stuff about him?

peak escarp
#

maybe

#

he was introduced in the short story "What You Left Behind"

plucky iris
#

everytime people assume the next thing

#

its something else

peak escarp
#

he's basically a berserker

worthy rose
#

but it could easily be someone else

#

but whom?

hushed jetty
#

they have kept him from us for years, SURELY it is him this time (copium)

worthy rose
#

Literally man

peak escarp
#

could be an entirely new character, like Illari

worthy rose
#

there's two things I love in games-

#

Armor and muscle

#

he's got that same build as rein

plucky iris
#

what does mauga mean

hushed jetty
#

mountain

#

it's samoan

peak escarp
#

it's Samoan for "mountain"

plucky iris
#

what if he does earthquake stomps or something

worthy rose
#

he's probably getting voiced by Dwayne Johnson

#

I can tell

peak escarp
#

lol Blizzard couldn't afford him

plucky iris
#

yeah hes expensive

worthy rose
#

Lol

hushed jetty
#

they got john cena as the enigma (for 2 mins) so it's certainly not off the table

plucky iris
#

too expensive for fast & furious

#

they should prob stick to low level VAs

#

so having them come back wont be problematic

peak escarp
#

2 minutes is a lot different from 5,000 lines of dialogue

worthy rose
#

She's really famous

#

As well as cassidy's voice actor

plucky iris
#

i heard cassidys va in other games only

worthy rose
#

He played Alex the Lion from Madagascar, Midas from fortnite

#

Captain Levi from AOT

peak escarp
#

he wasn't Alex in Madagascar

worthy rose
#

I may be confusing my names

peak escarp
#

that was Ben Stiller

worthy rose
#

OH

plucky iris
#

cassidys va and ashes va are only ones i recognize

hushed jetty
#

matt mercer is a p big name yeah

peak escarp
#

he's still just a voice actor

worthy rose
#

Terry Crews was going to be doomfist

peak escarp
#

lol no

#

he wasn't

worthy rose
#

but he decided not to because of his fame

#

or something-

#

saw on a tik tok

plucky iris
#

they should get other popular VAs from other games instead

peak escarp
#

the community saw him visiting Blizzard studios and decided he was probably going to voice someone in Overwatch

worthy rose
peak escarp
#

the truth is he was visiting because he's a fan of Blizzard games

#

I'd like Ashley Johnson to play a hero

plucky iris
#

whod they play?