#lore-discussion

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peak escarp
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the new anniversary is October 4

stable tiger
past copper
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We can only assume that season 7 is Halloween Terror and Anniversary as the main thing

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However, I do wonder if Halloween is the main BP this year. If I remember, last years was kinda jumbled between Cyberpunk n Halloween

peak escarp
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I don't think they'll do an entire season themed around halloween

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as awesome as that would be

past copper
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We’ll have to wait n see. Bc we don’t know for certain if Anniversary is even on the radar yet

peak escarp
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Anniversary is in season 6

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at the bottom

rare trail
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whats hero mastery?

peak escarp
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hero mastery is a single-player challenge that tests your skill on individual heroes

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it has a leaderboard, so you can compete for high scores

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the first 5 will be for Winston, Reinhart, Tracer, Mercy and Sojourn, and they'll be added at the s6 midseason patch

past copper
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Keep in mind that they might push that back to closer to Season 7 tho

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They did it with the Sojourn short after all

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Although, there might be more room for it since Hero Mastery won’t show up

peak escarp
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the Sojourn short was put before season 6 because it directly ties in to the story missions

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Anniversary falls in the last week of season 6, so it might carry over to season 7

past copper
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And we don’t know what the more factor that’s supposed to come with S6 is

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Possibly a hint at a new map in Peru

quasi sparrow
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I hope they make a map that is just like

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Wilderness

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Eventually

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There could be a forest point, a field or something idk

past copper
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Tho, I’m willing to bet a deathmatch map rather than an actual PvP map

quasi sparrow
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I feel like fighting in a big forest maze thingy would be fun

peak escarp
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a forest would be taxing on weaker machines

past copper
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Well, not to get hopes up, but any possible maps that aren’t Gothenburg, NJC, or Suravasa related to Peru may possibly be a map like Kanezaka

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We haven’t gotten one in some time after all

peak escarp
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Season 6 at launch:

  • story missions
  • Underworld event mission (with different modifiers each week)
  • new support hero
  • Flashpoint game mode (maps: Suravasa and New Junk City)

at midseason patch:

  • hero mastery

end of season

  • Anniversary
past copper
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Plus, wouldn’t be the first time we got a map like that. Kanezaka was related to Kiriko, so a DM map in Peru related to the new hero would not be a shock

peak escarp
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they weren't added at the same time

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and there hasn't been any hints that we are getting a Peru map

past copper
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True, but it all depends on whatever is coming in season 6

quasi sparrow
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Well

peak escarp
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they've been pretty transparent with what's coming in season 6

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as I just mentioned

past copper
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Besides that, new hero or not, I kinda feel they’re going to be overshadowed by Invasion

quasi sparrow
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The poster on Antarctica lab outside map

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Has peru and

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Samoa or something

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Which could just be hinting at the hero

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But still

peak escarp
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that's a hint at the s6 hero and the s8 hero (presumably)

quasi sparrow
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Samoa could hint at talon tank

peak escarp
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since the s8 hero is expected to be Mauga

quasi sparrow
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Mauga or something

rare trail
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sething? samoa?

quasi sparrow
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Something

rare trail
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oh

twilit patrol
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You think it'll be Mauga ?

rare trail
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who is samoa?

quasi sparrow
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Samoan

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Mauga

peak escarp
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Samoa is a country in the south pacific

rare trail
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ohhhh

past copper
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Mauga is Samoan and he is a tank styled character

quasi sparrow
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He worked with bap in talon

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peak escarp
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where Mauga is assumed to be from

quasi sparrow
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Not confirmed

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But likely

past copper
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I mean, confirmed. Since his kit went into making Sigma in his place

rare trail
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?

quasi sparrow
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??

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Why would that confirm that hes samoan

peak escarp
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how does that confirm that he's Samoan?

twilit patrol
past copper
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Ah. Didn’t know if you meant he was next tank or Samoan

quasi sparrow
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Well thats not confirmed either

rare trail
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are there any hints about s8 tank?

peak escarp
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none yet

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it's still early

twilit patrol
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S8 in December

past copper
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It more or less is. Mauga is directly connected to one hero, who happens to be on Winston’s Overwatch, Baptiste, and it was his kit before being scrapped to make Sigma

peak escarp
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they'll probably show them off at Blizzcon

rare trail
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do we know when the next set of missions will be dropped?

past copper
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I kinda think he’s next tank hands down

peak escarp
peak escarp
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people thought the s2 hero would be Mauga

twilit patrol
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You mean S2 ?

peak escarp
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yes sorry

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it is far from confirmed that Mauga is next

quasi sparrow
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Yeah

peak escarp
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it's very likely

past copper
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To be fair, nobody really thought the next tank was going to be Ram

peak escarp
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but not confirmed

past copper
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Bc he didn’t look like a tank hero

peak escarp
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I thought they would wait to add him until the story missions were added

quasi sparrow
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What is that supposed to prove

past copper
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Most people thought he’d be a dps

twilit patrol
quasi sparrow
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Maybe Mauga will be a support than

twilit patrol
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And we don't know if this is canon with the lore

rare trail
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i hope invasion makes more of rams abilities canon

quasi sparrow
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🤨

twilit patrol
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Mauga as a support ?

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Why ?

rare trail
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yea that wouldnt make much sense

quasi sparrow
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It makes no sense

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Exactly

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So why would ram not looking like a tank prove that mauga will be the next hero

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It doesnt.

past copper
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It really would have made more sense to wait until Invasion to add Ramattra, but many factor’s probably made it to where adding him sooner instead of later played in

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Like explaining how Null Sector began and what they’re goal is

twilit patrol
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Yeah I don't know why they add Ram last year

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It was early for me

peak escarp
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I'm just happy we have his name and background after 4 years of waiting

twilit patrol
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Me too

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''Ramattra'' is a good name for him

past copper
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Probably bc they wanted to add context to Null Sector, since before Ramattra, we had next to nothing about them

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And possibly to fill in more tank heroes

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There’s still so few tank n support compared to damage

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I’m kinda hoping from S8 and onwards, they at least focus more on adding new support n tank heroes rather than damage

rare trail
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i hope talon plays a bigger role in future missions

peak escarp
twilit patrol
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Ramattra's goals could not be achieved without the help of Talon

past copper
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So maybe next story missions next year will be focused on Talon instead of Null Sector

quasi sparrow
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After next tank in s8

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I hope they add a damage

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Than new support, tank, tank

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For every dmg, 3 other roles

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Till it evens out

past copper
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We really don’t need any damage considering there’s already 20+ of them now

quasi sparrow
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Pretty sure that is what they are doing anyway

past copper
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Honestly, add more supports n tanks and balance out damage heroes

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Seems like the better plan really

peak escarp
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but they can't ignore the damage role for 5 years while they other roles fill up

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and they're not going to

quasi sparrow
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I need a new dmg

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The role is so boring right now

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Tank is even worse though

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So many ccs

past copper
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I mean, for some odd reason they’re nerfing Cole grenade again

peak escarp
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because people hate it

past copper
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It already does next to nothing, how much more can you make it useless

rare trail
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hinder sucks to fight against

peak escarp
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if it does next to nothing you're not using it right

past copper
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The only nerf is see is taking away the hinder on Reaper, Moira, n Tracer

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Bc really, there’s nothing they can do to the damage factor

peak escarp
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that would make it useless

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those are the 3 heroes it is supposed to counter

past copper
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True, but really it’s either that or lower the damage again. So either way, would make it useless honestly

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That or take away the tracking or how far he can toss it

peak escarp
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did you even look at the director's blog?

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We made several changes to Cassidy's Magnetic Grenade this season, and going forward, we'll be refining it in to address some of the extremes of the ability. Its maximum range will shorten quite a bit with a 1.5-second max travel time.

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anyway, we're getting off topic

rare trail
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in reunion he uses flashbang right?

peak escarp
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yes

hollow tinsel
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Why was John Cena in the invasion thing 😭😭😭

rare trail
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publicity ig

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i mean we're talking about it so its working ig?

hollow tinsel
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Yeah

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Plus I watch wrestling so I thought it was hilarious

mellow stratus
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It is John Cenigma

idle finch
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i thought it was hilarious

honest spear
hollow tinsel
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Omg fr

keen summit
keen summit
keen summit
spare fox
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hmm AND the fact that it was said by dev that they wanted to release Mauga instead of Sigma but the kit they wanted to release just didn't fit the lore of Mauga

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it's interesting because I've been theorizing that Sigma has something to do with the Iris and the Awakening of omnics

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so IF they initially wanted to release Mauga and instead have Sigma released later in OW2 when they go into more detail about The Awakening and omnic sentience...

vague hemlock
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how do ya guys think cole lost his arm

twilit patrol
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Maybe someone shot on his arm

vague hemlock
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i dont know i dont think he would lose an entire arm from bein' shot

twilit patrol
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Yeah

spare fox
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he's got enough enemies at this point it's hard enough to pin down

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enemies from his deadlock days, blackwatch days, vigilante/mercenary days...

vague hemlock
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but like

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maybe it was an accident

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he is a bit silly

spare fox
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could be anything, there are no hints yet

woven jewel
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Maybe an explosion, sounds like Ashe knows of it

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Maybe from the Deadlock days

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But Echo didn't know of it so nvm

peak escarp
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he lost it after the fall of Overwatch

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because Torbjorn doesn't know how it happened

woven jewel
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I see

past copper
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Just a guess, but maybe Reaper was looking to tie up any loose ends he could find

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One such being Cole

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He might’ve got a lucky shot in and, given what his shotguns ammo can do, probably did a number on Cole’s arm

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So much so that it had to be amputated

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It wouldn’t be too much of a stretch. Reaper knows first hand the kinda threat his old team can pose to Talon

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While Moira joined them, Cole wouldn’t be so easily convinced and Genji… well I don’t think or anyone knew where Genji was

ruby ridge
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He was obviously close to her and echo so he was nearby a lot

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Also Mauga’s kit is already kinds shown, from the pictures of him in baptistery comic he has a Gatling gun

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Gattling gun

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Or however it’s spelt

vague hemlock
ruby ridge
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Like the heavy soldiers in talon missions

vague hemlock
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she was askin' 'bout it

ruby ridge
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I don’t think echo was online during the terrorist attack

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In the echo story we know she knew why she had weapons

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I think she’d at least try to save her

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But she doesn’t comment on it except asking questions

grave wave
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i like batman more then ben 10

hollow tinsel
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Same but

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Wrong channel

sharp rover
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why did overwatch call up some crusty old bald man

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when they coulda called up someone younger and probably more fit

worthy rose
sharp rover
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Balderich

sharp rover
peak escarp
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because Balderich was the leader of the Crusaders

sharp rover
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well yes, but he was getting old by then

peak escarp
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not that old

sharp rover
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wouldn't it have made more sense to recruit someone younger so they'd last longer

peak escarp
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he looked mid 40s

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they didn't need someone who would live for another 40 years

sharp rover
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by that logic, Balderich was the leader of the crusaders, and if he left, that'd mean Rein or the other Crusader woulda had to take over for the crusaders

sharp rover
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did they forsee their own downfall

peak escarp
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because they expected Overwatch to end the crisis quickly

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it didn't matter how long they lived after that

sharp rover
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but imagine having to call together the squad cause some problem arises

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like what happened now

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wouldn't it make more sense for someone who was younger

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so you get the same experience

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but they're actually still young

peak escarp
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someone younger isn't going to have the experience that Balderich had

sharp rover
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well, I mean

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true

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and after watching the rein cinematic

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I doubt they woulda wanted him anyway

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cause he refuses to do the one job he's supposed to do

peak escarp
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I'm more curious of why the UN accepted Reinhardt when he showed up instead of Balderich

sharp rover
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I mean

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Rein woulda just said

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"Balderich is dead. I am here"

peak escarp
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I guess they were desperate

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they could have taken back his medallion and sent it out to someone else

sharp rover
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like who tho

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like, Rein is an OG hero

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there's literally no other named crusader

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and given that Rein was Balderich's apprentice

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they just said "f*ck it"

peak escarp
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idk, some other notable soldier in the world

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doesn't have to be a Crusader

sharp rover
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they wanted a crusader to protect right???

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that's why they asked for a crusader no?

peak escarp
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we don't know why they wanted a Crusader

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they could have recruited someone from the Russian army, a svyatogor pilot

sharp rover
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we can speculat tho

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also, why doesn't Orisa have the freaking glowing blade melee

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that sh*t was lit

peak escarp
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because the OR15 she was made from didn't have it

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that was a feature of the OR14s

sharp rover
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why did they remove it

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bruuuuuuuuuuuuh

spare fox
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I always assumed they took Rein in place of Balderich bc it's what Balderich wanted. I mean he did handpick Rein. If they wanted Balderich enough to pick him I'm sure they trusted his judgment...

past copper
spare fox
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Balderich didn't have to do the handoff but he did

peak escarp
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I guess that's a good enough reason

past copper
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4 days! Get excited. A war is coming

vast granite
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What war?

velvet temple
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vapid tusk
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kiriko hanzo cin when

past copper
worn latch
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This is kind of a strange question but I've had apex brainrot lately so
Do you think vantage would even compare to ana/widow?

keen summit
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Other universes

vapid tusk
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how old was genji in the scene where he saved the overwatch team from the Titan robot

keen summit
keen summit
worn latch
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I thought Kiriko was in her 30s

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Does she not have a confirmed age

keen summit
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Just mid twenties

peak escarp
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according to her bio she was 12 when Sojiro Shimada was assassinated

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which according to Asa's letter, happened 12 years ago

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12 + 12 = 24

worn latch
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Ohh

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I assumed she was older cuz she trained with genji and hanzo

vast granite
keen summit
peak escarp
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they trained together as kids

keen summit
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Yea

peak escarp
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it doesn't say they were the same age at the time

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if Kiriko is 5 and Genji is 16, that's still "training together as kids"

keen summit
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Im hoping illari lore is good

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What we saw from her with that like tesr on her seemed cool

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Kiriko lore i hate as everyone knows, lw just kinda exists

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Lw did add to vishkar tho so thats nice

past copper
dapper sparrow
vague hemlock
golden oak
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Funny how reaper calls sigma an old man but he’s just 4 years older or so

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golden oak
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How come zen is 20? Wasn’t omnic crisis 30 years ago?

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And people ask him what he did before the crisis

grand wedge
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the new biographies got rid of the ages... they could change or just retcon some ages to fit their narrative now

desert yacht
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it feels like they went through a lot together as kids but genji would’ve been an adult by the time she would’ve been 7

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I want to head canon kiri as like 29-31 at least for now

grand wedge
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and they did tweaked thing a bit with Kiriko either way - she magically went form "she was 7 when Sojiro Shimada was killed " in an official YT short to " she was twelve y/o when Sojiro was assassinated" a month later when the put the biographies back online

keen summit
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Kiriko is the queen of retcons and odd lore stuff

grand wedge
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that she is

golden oak
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Brigitte is torbjorns oldest right?

merry token
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No, that was ret-conned

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Or, wait don’t believe anything I say

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Hold on

limpid agate
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Brig is Torb's youngest.

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Not oldest.

merry token
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I figured it out l_bluesunglasses

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People thought she was the oldest because it shows her with torb’s grandkids/her nieces/nephews in her xmas comic

merry token
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Torbjorn has such a large lineage marcilletear

golden oak
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Yeah I totally forgot, even mercy says “think about your grandchildren” when boosting torb

twilit patrol
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It's 19 heroes playable ?

keen summit
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What??

twilit patrol
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It wasn't precise

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I've seen apparently there are 19 playable heroes in PvE

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And they made 12 000 VL

lavish vessel
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Only a few days until we find out tho HammondClap

twilit patrol
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That’s big

fiery echo
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Hello! I know voicelines aren't canon but, does DVa have a crush in Bob?

past copper
fiery echo
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I mean, if I remember I few are canon?

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But that one isn't canon, is it?

lavish vessel
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They’re canon in the sense that they are what the heroes think, but they’ve just never said it to each other
Dva thinks Bob is cute but has never had that conversation with Ashe

fiery echo
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Oh got it! Yeah, that make sense. Thanks buddy!

past copper
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D.Va has never met Ashe or BOB. Wouldn’t make much sense

lavish vessel
past copper
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Ashe & BOB aren’t going to have wanted posters in Busan, Korea

golden oak
lavish vessel
past copper
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That doesn’t mean she knows anything about Ashe or BOB

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They’re not gonna be wanted by the entire world, especially the countries Overwatch is going to, to fight Null Sector

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And the only one who could tell her bout them is Cole

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Who already doesn’t talk about his old life as is

golden oak
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If Ashe were to choose between overwatch and talon, who would she join

bleak shell
peak escarp
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she likes being her own boss

fiery echo
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Imagine Junker Queen and Ashe together... daaaaaamn

mellow stratus
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Never

golden oak
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I'm the queen 'round these parts.

worthy rose
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Bob wins

fiery echo
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BOB is only the spectator

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While eating popcorn

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I don't think he can but...

peak escarp
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he'll pretend, just to be polite

fiery echo
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That! 👆

young lily
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What is leveling a building

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Going as high as it?

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Or destroying each level

peak escarp
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flattening it

young lily
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oh

white cobalt
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finally watching the short and huh, Genji as OW agent huh

peak escarp
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we've known that for years

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he was a regular OW agent in Storm Rising

golden oak
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People on the left photo though

peak escarp
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Sojourn's squad from the Canadian Armed Forces

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during the crisis

golden oak
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the Crisis was 30 years ago right? How come zen is 20 then

peak escarp
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they haven't explained it

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maybe he counts his age from when he found enlightenment as a monk

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maybe he was built after the crisis

golden oak
peak escarp
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people make assumptions, doesn't mean they're right

golden oak
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What isn’t right? That hes 20?

peak escarp
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that he was alive before the crisis

golden oak
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But when aurora gave sentience to the omnics, that helped ending the crisis, so every omnic built after that can’t be sentient since Aurora was gone

peak escarp
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correct

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we don't know when that was, exactly

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only that it was after the omnic crisis started [30 years ago]

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the omnic crisis could have lasted 10 years

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it probably didn't, but we dont know for sure

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there could be some other explanation for Zenyatta's age

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or no explanation

past copper
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Maybe age just works different for omnics

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After all, they don't age like humans and what's more they probably never gave themselves an age until they became sentient

placid vessel
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Are there omnics that were built to be like kids

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And do they just mentally stay kids

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How does omnic personality work

past copper
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I kind of doubt, but it depends how many models were built

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I'm pretty sure omnics can grow mentally and faster than humans too

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And they can easily alter their bodies as they want. We see that around the world

delicate knot
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why does mercy have wings if she cant constantly fly

past copper
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Be more specific. Are you talking about the game or lore

delicate knot
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I guess lore would be related to game? Or are they detached

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I was told other things are like reaper reload and where bob comes from during ult

past copper
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Lore n game abilities are not the same

delicate knot
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Ok, wasnt sure if there was lore why

past copper
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Mercy can fly. As seen in Storm Rising, Zero Hour, her short story, and in the Rio mission demo opening cut scene

peak escarp
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the wings are attached to her suit

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she can fly whenever she wants

delicate knot
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The #1 question that will always haunt me is that there are 2 bastions in a game despite bastion being the "last bastion"

delicate knot
twilit patrol
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No

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Only one bastion

past copper
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Bastion is the last Gen 1 Bastion

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However, Russia is still fighting the same Gen and Busan is dealing with the Gwishin version

delicate knot
past copper
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There's only 1 Bastion left from the Crisis

delicate knot
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Yes, so how are there 2 in a game

past copper
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And they're the only Bastion to have sentience

delicate knot
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I guess the same way there can be 2 sigmas

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or 2 of any character

past copper
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There is only 1 in game. Idk why you think there 2

delicate knot
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In gameplay

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Not in the overwatch lore

past copper
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Are you new to the game?

delicate knot
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Not to the game, but to lore yes

past copper
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Well there's your problem. In game everyone can pick a hero on the roster

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It not that both teams access 1 roster

twilit patrol
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Lore and in game are not the same

delicate knot
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Imagine if they had access to 1 roster, would be insane lol

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But now Im off lore discussion so Ill stop

past copper
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You really should watch the animated shorts on PlayOverwatch on YT

delicate knot
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Ive seen a few of them (How I know about last bastion), just random questions that pop into my head
Like I know about most of the alliances and whos a "bad guy" (Reaper, Widow when they tried stealing something from the Museum)

peak escarp
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Gwishin Bastions were made after the crisis

karmic turret
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i just noticed, murphy has cybernetics

candid schooner
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Gwishin "Hero" when?

peak escarp
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probably never

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they aren't sentient

past copper
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Tho, I do hope future story missions will include something with Gwishin

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I’d love to fight those things

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Plus, maybe Overwatch and MEKA could finally put a stop to the Gwishin for good

twilit patrol
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I doubt

stuck stump
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Is dva a member of overwatch and meka

peak escarp
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yes

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she's on loan from MEKA temporarily

fresh rock
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Three days! Would've been tomorrow too but, sadly not

sharp rover
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that shit was lit

past copper
# sharp rover why not tho

Bc they were meant to be robot police to protect Numbani by subduing threats like Doomfist. Not killing machines

sharp rover
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you can clearly tell they kinda failed their job

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cause doomfist straight up punched 80 of them into the airport walls

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you know what woulda helped

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big ass laser swords...

past copper
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They never dealt with Doomfist until then. And a sword wouldn’t have made a difference against a man who clearing wasn’t going to be affected by guns

sharp rover
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idk man it worked well against Reinhardt

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and Rein charge knocks down doom punch

past copper
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Rein was an overconfident cocky idiot and those OR14s were built specifically to counter the Crusaders

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Doomfist is neither overconfident or anything like the Crusaders

sharp rover
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doomfist got defeated by a 12 year old girl, her science project, and a DJ

keen summit
past copper
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Wrong. Defeat means he lost. He retreated to attack another day

keen summit
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from what we know

past copper
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So until Doomfist is recaptured, he hasn’t lost yet

keen summit
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as or14s could already stop rein

sharp rover
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doomfist retreated from a 12 year old girl, her science project, and a DJ

keen summit
#

orisa was specifically built to fight doomfist tho tbf'

sharp rover
#

all the other ones didn't do their job but apparently this one did

keen summit
#

doom is no slacker

sharp rover
#

they should hire efi

past copper
#

They didn’t stop him. He can attack any time he wants. But he’s bidding his time to move his plans forward with Null Sector

keen summit
#

shes in a museum

#

doom cant defeat orisa, cuz orisa was built specifically to beat him

sharp rover
past copper
#

Efi isn’t joining Overwatch and I highly doubt Orisa will either. Efi is too young and Orisa is the only hero Numbani has

past copper
sharp rover
#

yes, but it's still much more believable than Orisa, Efi and Lucio

keen summit
past copper
#

Only bc Doom was caught off guard by Orisa being upgraded to fight him again. She was different from their last encounter

keen summit
sharp rover
keen summit
#

orisa breaks car hoods, by accident

keen summit
sharp rover
keen summit
#

no

sharp rover
#

how did doom have any trouble

#

bruh

past copper
#

Orisa is the only OR15 to be rebuilt into a hero

sharp rover
#

doom levels skyscrapers

keen summit
#

as we've said multiple times, shes not a regular or15

sharp rover
#

with a single punch

keen summit
#

it was said by a kid that OTHERS said he could

past copper
#

Unless you actually see him do that, then it is just people over exaggerating

sharp rover
#

then again, there's not much to determine how powerful he is

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cause we haven't seen how powerful primal winston is

keen summit
#

there is, his origin story

golden oak
#

Regular OR15 were just designed to be peacekeepers

keen summit
#

or15s werent built to go up against doom, orisa had specific stuff built in to fight him

golden oak
#

Orisa has that bongo also, whatever it does

sharp rover
#

if we're gonna talk about the bongo

keen summit
sharp rover
#

I find it ironic that Orisa sucks on the literal only map she's suppsed to be on

keen summit
#

she used to be great on it tbh

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cuz poke bunker

past copper
#

Doomfist wasn’t a threat because of his power. He’s a threat because of his charisma as a leader and capacity to manipulate others to his cause

golden oak
#

Doomfist can be good on numbani tho

keen summit
#

doom is in the upper group of power but defo not at the top. hes just very smart and tactical

golden oak
#

Which he upgraded

sharp rover
#

the singular most powerful weapon every wielded by an individual

keen summit
#

like most powerfull are, not in order, sym, potentially lw funnily enough cuz architect, sigma (dont know limits) orisa and winston

sharp rover
#

which needs 5 punches to kill a tracer

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y'know what, "levels skyscrapers" my ass

past copper
#

Doomfist is always growing stronger both as a combatant and as dangerous leader of Talon

sharp rover
#

either tracer's got the durability level of a city block or doom's just full of shit

keen summit
#

doom also defo is somewhere high up tho

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hes defo not like what ashe

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no hate to ashe but realistically, shes just a good markswoman with a gun

past copper
#

Doomfist never said he could level skyscrapers

sharp rover
#

ik

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they kinda hyped him up too much

keen summit
#

best way to see dooms power is his origin story

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dont look at game stuff

sharp rover
#

he punched through a concrete wall and that's about it

keen summit
#

he fucking created a enourmous crater

past copper
#

And he didn’t have to actually hit Tracer. She was too fast for him. However, he calculated when to strike and his patience paid off

keen summit
#

look at when he tries to get genji, he casually creates a huge crater in the ground

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with such force that it lifts multiple cars

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1 second of windup

past copper
#

You know how hard you gotta be to this

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He didn’t even turn around

keen summit
#

orisa's thing is being an immovable object while doom is an unstoppable force, basically theyll always just have stalemates

sharp rover
#

seems about right

keen summit
#

cuz one cannot win as one cant be stopped and the other cant be moved, so it just clashes. one cant deal enough dmg to the other but wont break and vice ferca

keen summit
past copper
#

She’s dancing circles around him and he can’t land a hit on her. She didn’t expect him to know precisely where she’d appear

keen summit
#

doom only cant defeat orisa cuz shes just, like no

#

he cant dmg her

golden oak
#

How does fortify work in lore?

past copper
#

Hell, Tracer and Genji. Tracer probably had to ghost in and out for hours again and Genji probably ended up in medical care after that hit

keen summit
#

shes always fortified kinda

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you could speculate it has to do with her miniature toblestein that also was used for old right click

golden oak
#

What’s a toblestein

keen summit
#

zarya gravity type thing

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rival of sigma

past copper
#

I mean look at this. The man using real life cheat codes to find Tracer fr

keen summit
#

so toblestein reactors are gravity based things

golden oak
#

He rips something off her back, what is that

keen summit
#

you could speculate thats how she also stops it

keen summit
#

but basically its what keeps her in reality

golden oak
#

No, that’s in front

keen summit
#

in this timeline, which is why its so fucked up

golden oak
#

In her chest

keen summit
#

she starts freaking out after it

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most likely he just ripped out part of the circuit with it aswell

sharp rover
#

was Aurora the iris

#

I feel like Aurora was the Iris

golden oak
keen summit
sharp rover
#

that Zen keeps talking about

keen summit
#

watch on 1:15

golden oak
#

@sharp rover it was the state of consciousness Aurora achieved in order to grant omnics sentience

mellow stratus
sharp rover
#

so why can Zen only use it once in a while

past copper
#

We haven’t seen Zen use it yet

golden oak
rose fossil
#

How old does the new hero look

golden oak
#

20s-30s

rose fossil
#

I wanted a old lady

kind slate
#

Lore wise, what are the 3 strongest villains and 3 strongest heroes?

golden oak
#

Here we go again…

past copper
#

Fr. I’m almost certain everyone is tired of hearing the same question over who’s strongest

kind slate
#

How could I know if it’s my first time here :/ ….my bad tho

golden oak
#

Villains: doom, sig (?), ram
Heroes: Orisa, Winston, genji (?)

kind slate
#

Orisa? That’s cool, I know barely nothing about her lore

golden oak
#

Depends what you mean by strongest

golden oak
kind slate
#

Is there a comic or something about it?

golden oak
#

Yes

ruby ridge
#

Heroes are Winston Oriya and

golden oak
#

Sym isn’t villain

kind slate
#

Btw, the most villain villain is doom or ram?

golden oak
#

Doom, although ow2 will focus on ram a lot

kind slate
golden oak
#

Pretty much, not sure about genji tho

kind slate
#

Is this voice line canon?

Genji(after Zen): Doomfist, you are truly a worthy foe.

Doom: if we fight again…I can’t promise you will walk Away this time

Genji: Nor can I

twilit patrol
#

Voice lines are not canon

kind slate
#

Not even events one like storm rising?

honest spear
#

I wanna know what his ultimate is

twilit patrol
golden oak
kind slate
#

I see

honest spear
#

This guy too

golden oak
#

The barista looked interesting also

kind slate
golden oak
#

They are like suggestions of what the heroes could say if they met

kind slate
#

So they aren’t canon but plausible dialogues

golden oak
#

Yeah

kind slate
#

I see, thanks

ruby ridge
stuck stump
fresh rock
hidden raft
#

Wait was the petras act signed AFTER the destruction of the swiss base?

peak escarp
#

yes

#

In the final years of Overwatch's existence, a top secret division called "Blackwatch" was revealed. There were stories of assassination, coercion, kidnapping, torture, and worse. Governments called on the UN to shut down the "aggressive and repeated violations of many countries' sovereignty." As public distrust swelled, a massive explosion wiped out Overwatch's headquarters in Switzerland. The United Nations called it an accident; today we know it was a battle, a dispute between Overwatch commander Jack Morrison and Blackwatch commander Gabriel Reyes. Overwatch's death knell was that of two former comrades laying waste to all they had built.

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The United Nations could do nothing but shut down Overwatch. Few people at the time doubted it was the right call. The world had never been more peaceful—the biggest threat to global stability and growth was, in many minds, Overwatch itself. Its time had passed.```
hidden raft
#

I mean i just needed a yes but that works

peak escarp
#

(keep in mind this is some of the oldest lore we have, so it's subject to change)

hidden raft
#

So sojurn and the others didnt violate petras during storm rising

peak escarp
#

no, Storm Rising was before that

hidden raft
#

Good to know then

peak escarp
#

rough timeline of the last 15 years:
-15: Mercy joins Overwatch
-12: Sojiro Shimada is assasinated, Hanzo almost kills Genji, Genji is saved by Overwatch
-10: Ramattra reactivates the omnium in Antarctica
-9: Ecopoint Antarctica is hit by a polar storm, Mei's team goes into cryostasis
-8: Retribution/Slipstream incident
-7: Uprising
-6: Storm Rising/Ana goes MIA/Jack and Gabe fight and blow up the HQ
-5: the Petras Act is signed, Overwatch disbanded
0: Recall
+1: Zero Hour

hidden raft
#

Ah

past copper
#

We wanted it and they delivered

fresh rock
#

The gun looks the same because it's not in game yet

past copper
dawn oxide
#

I have to wonder if the UN will attempt to shut Winston's Overwatch down, even after they save numerous cities. I can just imagine Talon pressuring the UN through "legitimate channels" to take military action against Overwatch.
Hell, I suspect the Petras Act was Talon bullshit designed to shut down the one organization that could threaten them.

tranquil coyote
#

what is the iris? what does sigma have to do with it? does sigma know everything ever??
where are y’all finding lore, other than all the videos? is it the comics?

sudden crystal
#

Ramattra is literally me

#

he's so based

peak escarp
# tranquil coyote what is the iris? what does sigma have to do with it? does sigma know everything...
keen summit
limpid agate
#

Nevermind misread it

civic nymph
civic nymph
fresh rock
#

Two days! Hope we get a trailer today :]

limber veldt
#

reading the comics I like how junkrat and road hog tried going to the side of good

golden oak
hushed jetty
#

i wonder if someone will ever bring up to ramattra that he's doing almost exactly what anubis did? like, mass producing non sentient robots for his own goals, even if those goals have a little more merit than whatever anubis wanted. especially since ram doesnt seem to like anubis i have to wonder if he's even realized the parallels

golden oak
#

He’s even brainwashing omnics and forcing them to join him, which we saw in the trailer for pve

distant sparrow
#

i heard ram mention it to pharah in one of their voicelines but idk what it is

hushed jetty
distant sparrow
#

oh ok

distant sparrow
#

didnt australia get blown up during the omnic crisis and that's why junkrat is... junkrat

hushed jetty
#

i think so yes
one of the omniums Exploded

hushed jetty
#

something something blinded by rage, maybe

distant sparrow
#

wait so what was the omnic crisis

#

i havent really looked into overwatch lore

#

i understand it was something about null sector because they mentioned it in the pve trailer being "different" this time?

hushed jetty
#

null sectoe wasnt around back then

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the omnic crisis was when anubis took over the abandoned omniums and started mass producing omnics to kill all humans

#

you should watch the 3 genesis shorts if you havent

distant sparrow
#

aren't they the anime shorts

hushed jetty
#

yeah

distant sparrow
hushed jetty
#

yeah

distant sparrow
#

ohh ok

#

in reindhart's short, was the thing that blinded reindhart the precursor to orisa, then?

hushed jetty
#

yeah, an OR-14

distant sparrow
#

ok

hushed jetty
#

those ones were desifned by anubis, and then i think numbani made OR-15s as police robots based on those, and then efi made orisa based on an OR-15

distant sparrow
#

oh ok

#

did wrecking ball win the junkertown thing, then?

hushed jetty
#

like, the arena battles and whatnot?

distant sparrow
#

yeah

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the one that junker queen does in the wastelander short

hushed jetty
#

he's called the champion so i imagine so

distant sparrow
#

then why isn't he the king of junkertown? they said that whoever wins it because the king/queen

hushed jetty
#

oh i was thinking of the wrong thing

#

he didnt do that, junkertown has mech battles or something

#

i dont remwmber the exact details but they basically just Fight for fun sometimes i think

distant sparrow
#

oh alright

honest spear
distant sparrow
#

ok

worthy rose
#

hello, can someone please help me? whenever i log in overwatch it says "sorry, we're unable to log you in" tho however when i join from a different accounts it works. (im 100% im not banned/suspended from my first account)

ruby ridge
#

war

distant sparrow
#

oh ok

hushed jetty
#

i wouldnt call it a revolt since that implies the omnics had a choice in the mattwr

ruby ridge
#

I said revolt since they did technically go from working fo rhuamsn to against them

#

For humans

hushed jetty
#

true but they were being controlled

ruby ridge
past copper
#

The Crisis was omnics suddenly and without warning started attacking humans

ruby ridge
distant sparrow
torpid copper
#

EXPLAIN OVERWATCH LORE FOR A ADHD PERSON NOW

hushed jetty
#

i dont remember the short but i imagine the king was thwre to watch or just to fuck around

ruby ridge
distant sparrow
past copper
#

It was some time later they learned that a God AI, Anubis, had suddenly taken control of all omnics and making them attack humanity

torpid copper
hushed jetty
#

prob just to fuck around then

#

havr some fun fighting

ruby ridge
#

Big robot guy named Anubis mind controlled all robots in the world against humans

fresh rock
ruby ridge
#

Then a smaller robot called aurora sacrificed herself to give all omnics emotions

#

Then the humans won against the rest of the evil robots

torpid copper
#

NOT STUPID ENOUGH

#

STUPIDER

ruby ridge
#

ANOTHER EVIL GROUP CALLED TALON WANTS TO SEE PPL FIGHT ALL OILED UP

torpid copper
#

OH NO

ruby ridge
#

SO THEY MAKE PPL FIGHT AND THEN LAUGH IN A EVIL WAY

torpid copper
past copper
torpid copper
ruby ridge
#

Then overwatch was BANNED from discord because the public found out about a secret channel called black watch where they did bad jokes

#

But then a moderator called Winston many years ago saw that discord was boring and recalled everyone to fight for the better of discord

torpid copper
ruby ridge
#

Now replace discord with world

#

There you go

torpid copper
#

GOOD JOB

#

I GET OVERWATCH NOW

#

WHATS NEXT

ruby ridge
#

Robots come back to rule the world

#

Led by a big robot dude called ramy t

torpid copper
#

NO WAY

ruby ridge
#

Now overwatch is gonna fight against the robots

#

And that’s all

#

For now

torpid copper
#

ramhandleft ramhead ramhandright thank you

#

Also

#

I knew the whole lore the whole time

#

I just wanted to laugh at something lol

mint yew
nova cedar
#

that litterly helped me understand ow lore more omg ty

mint yew
#

My eyes have been opened

ruby ridge
mint yew
#

That’s kinda hot

worldly raptor
#

Hey can someone explain what invasion is about to me

idle finch
#

null sector (ramattras group) is invading the world to liberate omnics

#

overwatch is attempting to stop it

peak escarp
#

Null Sector is invading major cities around the world in the name of omnic "liberation"

mint yew
#

Could someone tell me where Talon lies in all this?

peak escarp
#

Null Sector has teamed up with Talon to use their global resources

twilit patrol
#

I'm curious to see Illari's lore

#

''Captive Sun is ready to burn''

#

''Face the sunrise''

fresh rock
#

SO

#

It seems that we have backtracked in terms of battlepass' making sense.

#

I was expecting cool omnic skins, but it looks like only around half of the skins are on theme.

#

That's actually a shame, I was gonna buy it but it's really off for me. The mythic is absolutely amazing, but the lack of omnic skins throw me off.

#

Also, Doc was right, it was a Sym skin

#

We've actually been getting loads of Sym skins recently.

#

FELLAS

#

It's like a snake omnic

#

So cool

merry mason
#

She is cool but we knew about her

#

Looks different

peak escarp
#

they fixed the Vigilante skin

mint yew
keen summit
#

they never added lw

keen summit
peak escarp
keen summit
#

nvm found it

twilit patrol
#

Could we say this is the biggest update in all Overwatch history ?

fresh rock
fresh rock
#

Alright fellas

#

Ima go over dis

#

OKAY

#

The Anniversary has me HYPED

candid schooner
#

Illari looks so frikkin' awesome! We don't deserve her. 😭

fresh rock
#

And it starts mid season!

twilit patrol
#

I won't say it enough but Suravasa looks fire

fresh rock
#

I wonder what cosmetics are going to be rewarded though

keen summit
fresh rock
fiery echo
#

Man, I'm very excited! A lot of things coming this week! Ana skin looks like a Warframe skin, awesome!

past copper
#

That new hero a big game changer fr

#

Those stories look so well made

#

And the skins are so fucking sick! Hyped

#

Also like Zarya finally getting a cool skin for a change. Looks like Junker Zarya

solemn nebula
#

would hero mastery actually help you in any way or is it just for fun

past copper
#

I’d imagine it’s to help you practice with heroes you suck at without the need to go into quick play and get chewed out for sucking

#

That’s my best guess

solemn nebula
#

and hero mastery is just cosmetics right?

#

not mastery

#

sorry

#

the progression thing or whatever

past copper
#

I don’t think it’s apart of progression like as leveling up per say

#

Idk

#

Pretty sure mastery is just an updated version of the training map

solemn nebula
#

hmm

#

alright

#

honestly this could maybe save blizzards game but who knows

past copper
#

We have to wait n see. Besides regular matches, pretty sure Story will have hero progression too iir

past copper
#

I mean… people will find a way to hate this game regardless of what Blizzard does. They can’t please everyone

mellow stratus
worldly raptor
past copper
#

That’s the puller, but they probably changed her name, bc Puller sounds…

idle finch
#

I’m interested to see illari lore

peak escarp
#

she's called the Stalker now

rain shoal
golden oak
#

So the skin we thought was LW, was actually symm

#

Well close enough

past copper
#

Stalker is better than Puller fr

peak escarp
#

I knew it was Symm

fresh rock
#

You got me there Doc

#

This is the 3rd in a row

#

This season is gonna be really fun!

#

Again, the ONLY downside is the Battlepass in terms of skins are.. iffy..

past copper
#

Also, notice anything different about the Nulltroopers

fresh rock
#

Again, with Overwatch, getting futuristic skins is just not a priority. This has happened with both Cybernetic and now Invasion

past copper
#

Looks like the Nulltroopers got a sharp upgrade

hushed ivy
#

Was Kiri and Lw mentioned in the lore before they were revealed?

civic marlin
hushed ivy
civic marlin
grand wedge
golden oak
rain shoal
golden oak
#

Omnic skins look nice but the Ashe, torb, zarya, roadhog skins look so random

peak escarp
#

the skins for the Bundle and Premium Bundle

golden oak
#

I’m assuming roadhog and torb skin could be free epics

#

Sojourn back at it again with underwhelming legendaries

#

Don’t get me wrong, the skin looks fine, but it’s too weak of a legendary

#

Honestly not sure if I’ll be getting this battle pass
I’ll decide when we get to see all the cosmetics I think
But the skins look underwhelming

civic marlin
#

wasnt it 1.5k?

fresh rock
rose fossil
#

Question

#

Is the pve with the battle pass?

rain shoal
#

no but the 15$ bundle gives 1000 coins

grand wedge
fresh rock
fresh rock
rose fossil
#

Hopefully psn tax doesnt ruin me

fresh rock
#

This theme would've been really cool but

#

They messed it up again

rose fossil
#

Buying the bp for the hero and ana skin

#

All the other skins

golden oak
#

What illari skin is in battle pass?

rose fossil
#

They did so good being on theme with s4 and s5

rose fossil
golden oak
civic marlin
civic marlin
fresh rock
golden oak
fresh rock
#

S4 and S5 skins stayed on theme

#

But it looks like S6 isn't

civic marlin
golden oak
#

Zarya get another ugly skin 🙃

golden oak
fresh rock
#

Which is a shame because this theme is really cool

fresh rock
fresh rock
desert valve
#

did the new battle pass come out?

golden oak
#

Ashe, Zarya, Winston, Torb, Roadhog aren’t

civic marlin
#

the skins in the trailer may be the shop

golden oak
fresh rock
#

The problem is that Junker Zarya could be a whole new theme

#

But.. no

golden oak
#

So Ashe torb are also junker?

fresh rock
#

5 of the 8 aren't themed around Invasion nor Null Sector

golden oak
#

Honestly a lot of those skins look like epics

fresh rock
#

We're back in Season 2

civic marlin
#

relax it may make sense

#

besides skins :D

golden oak
#

Oh I know why

#

We’re getting junker skins because new junk city will be a new map

fresh rock
civic marlin
#

what about suravasa

fresh rock
fresh rock
civic marlin
#

relax they may just be shop skins

fresh rock
civic marlin
#

well im extremely excited for the battlepass no matter what

#

new support

#

all this new content

golden oak
#

Junkrat is getting a Junker Skin?

#

So epics: Junkrat, Torb, Roadhog

#

Two of those will be free I guess

fresh rock
#

This worries me

#

These skins are really weak compared to other seasons, shop, event, battlepass or not.

golden oak
#

Yeah…

fresh rock
#

I was mega hyped because other than events the skins are hype

#

Ah, wait!

#

Map changes!

#

As in daytime to night

#

Evening

#

That stuff!

#

I'm excited for that! Hope it's good

storm harness
#

Is there any gameplay for the new healer?

golden oak
#

Only trailer

storm harness
#

Okay.

#

Lame

rose fossil
#

And her primary fire

storm harness
#

I wonder how she heals though

rose fossil
#

Nothing in detail atm

storm harness
#

So they will launch her tomorrow?

rose fossil
storm harness
#

With no intro lawl

spare veldt
#

wait do we know what the mythic skin is yet

hollow tinsel
#

Ana

spare veldt
#

who is it for

#

bruh

rose fossil
#

Ana

spare veldt
#

that makes sense i guess

#

i was hoping for bap

rose fossil
#

This BP underwhelming atm

spare veldt
#

yeah im just ready for a new one tho

#

season 1 BP was good

rose fossil
#

S6 bp looks worse than the last 2

#

Sad

#

Hopefully gameplay is better

icy stump
spare veldt
#

she is balanced rn

#

why would they make changes

rose fossil
spare veldt
#

sigma and orisa have to be the most balanced tanks out rn

icy stump
icy stump
rose fossil
#

Jq vs orisa is painful cutecry

#

Once oriss runs out of cooldowns after she misses everything head shotting her 3 times is satisfying

icy stump
#

I can’t have fun anymore

#

Born to play junker queen forced to play sugma

spare veldt
#

i just see a ton of zarya and sigma in my games lol

#

im in m5

rose fossil
#

Born to play lifeweaver one tricks liveweaver

#

I was gm 2 back in season 3 than i played lifeweaver (im diamond 4)

spare veldt
#

lol

icy stump
#

The risks you take to have fun in a video game

spare veldt
#

people hate on lifeweaver a lot but if you can find someone who is good with him he's amazing

#

and does the right pulls

#

one time i got pulled into hanzo's dragon and died

#

LOL

rose fossil
#

No nothing you do works

#

Its painful

spare veldt
#

his hitbox is crazy big

#

so if your enemy can aim yes

#

but the pulls are huge especially for tanks that dive

#

winston and doomfist

#

dva

rose fossil
#

Doomfist

spare veldt
#

the only tank i play lol

#

but i main dps

rose fossil
#

I got death threats for playing lw

spare veldt
#

lmao

#

no way

jagged pond
spare veldt
#

i love bap

rose fossil
spare veldt
#

ana is so good

#

nothing beats a nano

golden oak
rose fossil
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Y would you nano zen 💀

spare veldt
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well im just used to nano dragon blade

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thats why i think it's worth

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a dry blade usually doesnt work too well sometimes

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especially when you got sym, moira, zarya

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and other heros

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i hate kiri with the suzu

rose fossil
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remember when brig could 1v1 a rein

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and was insanely OP

golden oak
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And torb was able to give 75

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Tank zen goes crazy

paper ember
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I´m new to overwatch and want to know why the gouverment hates overwatch in the short films on youtube

golden oak
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Because of blackwatch’s activity

peak escarp
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here's a good summary of the Overwatch story so far

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I heard it was basically nano