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Damn I remember when ow1 anniversary was on my birthday smh
We can only assume that season 7 is Halloween Terror and Anniversary as the main thing
However, I do wonder if Halloween is the main BP this year. If I remember, last years was kinda jumbled between Cyberpunk n Halloween
I don't think they'll do an entire season themed around halloween
as awesome as that would be
We’ll have to wait n see. Bc we don’t know for certain if Anniversary is even on the radar yet
whats hero mastery?
hero mastery is a single-player challenge that tests your skill on individual heroes
it has a leaderboard, so you can compete for high scores
the first 5 will be for Winston, Reinhart, Tracer, Mercy and Sojourn, and they'll be added at the s6 midseason patch
Keep in mind that they might push that back to closer to Season 7 tho
They did it with the Sojourn short after all
Although, there might be more room for it since Hero Mastery won’t show up
the Sojourn short was put before season 6 because it directly ties in to the story missions
Anniversary falls in the last week of season 6, so it might carry over to season 7
And we don’t know what the more factor that’s supposed to come with S6 is
Possibly a hint at a new map in Peru
I hope they make a map that is just like
Wilderness
Eventually
There could be a forest point, a field or something idk
Tho, I’m willing to bet a deathmatch map rather than an actual PvP map
I feel like fighting in a big forest maze thingy would be fun
a forest would be taxing on weaker machines
Well, not to get hopes up, but any possible maps that aren’t Gothenburg, NJC, or Suravasa related to Peru may possibly be a map like Kanezaka
We haven’t gotten one in some time after all
Season 6 at launch:
- story missions
- Underworld event mission (with different modifiers each week)
- new support hero
- Flashpoint game mode (maps: Suravasa and New Junk City)
at midseason patch:
- hero mastery
end of season
- Anniversary
Plus, wouldn’t be the first time we got a map like that. Kanezaka was related to Kiriko, so a DM map in Peru related to the new hero would not be a shock
they weren't added at the same time
and there hasn't been any hints that we are getting a Peru map
True, but it all depends on whatever is coming in season 6
Well
Besides that, new hero or not, I kinda feel they’re going to be overshadowed by Invasion
The poster on Antarctica lab outside map
Has peru and
Samoa or something
Which could just be hinting at the hero
But still
that's a hint at the s6 hero and the s8 hero (presumably)
Samoa could hint at talon tank
since the s8 hero is expected to be Mauga
Mauga or something
sething? samoa?
Something
oh
You think it'll be Mauga ?
who is samoa?
Samoa is a country in the south pacific
ohhhh
Mauga is Samoan and he is a tank styled character
He worked with bap in talon
It’s a country
where Mauga is assumed to be from
I mean, confirmed. Since his kit went into making Sigma in his place
?
how does that confirm that he's Samoan?

Ah. Didn’t know if you meant he was next tank or Samoan
Well thats not confirmed either
are there any hints about s8 tank?
S8 in December
It more or less is. Mauga is directly connected to one hero, who happens to be on Winston’s Overwatch, Baptiste, and it was his kit before being scrapped to make Sigma
they'll probably show them off at Blizzcon
do we know when the next set of missions will be dropped?
I kinda think he’s next tank hands down
this has been the case since 2019, and we still haven't gotten Mauga
2024
people thought the s2 hero would be Mauga
You mean S2 ?
Yeah
it's very likely
To be fair, nobody really thought the next tank was going to be Ram
but not confirmed
Ok…?
Bc he didn’t look like a tank hero
I thought they would wait to add him until the story missions were added
What is that supposed to prove
Most people thought he’d be a dps
Yeah but they put a Nemesis ability on him
Maybe Mauga will be a support than
And we don't know if this is canon with the lore
i hope invasion makes more of rams abilities canon
🤨
yea that wouldnt make much sense
It makes no sense
Exactly
So why would ram not looking like a tank prove that mauga will be the next hero
It doesnt.
It really would have made more sense to wait until Invasion to add Ramattra, but many factor’s probably made it to where adding him sooner instead of later played in
Like explaining how Null Sector began and what they’re goal is
I'm just happy we have his name and background after 4 years of waiting
Probably bc they wanted to add context to Null Sector, since before Ramattra, we had next to nothing about them
And possibly to fill in more tank heroes
There’s still so few tank n support compared to damage
I’m kinda hoping from S8 and onwards, they at least focus more on adding new support n tank heroes rather than damage
i hope talon plays a bigger role in future missions
they have been doing that for all of OW2
They probably will
Ramattra's goals could not be achieved without the help of Talon
I mean, we’ve seen one story mission where Talon is trying to kill Zenyatta
So maybe next story missions next year will be focused on Talon instead of Null Sector
After next tank in s8
I hope they add a damage
Than new support, tank, tank
For every dmg, 3 other roles
Till it evens out
We really don’t need any damage considering there’s already 20+ of them now
Pretty sure that is what they are doing anyway
Honestly, add more supports n tanks and balance out damage heroes
Seems like the better plan really
but they can't ignore the damage role for 5 years while they other roles fill up
and they're not going to
I need a new dmg
The role is so boring right now
Tank is even worse though
So many ccs
I mean, for some odd reason they’re nerfing Cole grenade again
because people hate it
It already does next to nothing, how much more can you make it useless
hinder sucks to fight against
if it does next to nothing you're not using it right
The only nerf is see is taking away the hinder on Reaper, Moira, n Tracer
Bc really, there’s nothing they can do to the damage factor
True, but really it’s either that or lower the damage again. So either way, would make it useless honestly
That or take away the tracking or how far he can toss it
did you even look at the director's blog?
We made several changes to Cassidy's Magnetic Grenade this season, and going forward, we'll be refining it in to address some of the extremes of the ability. Its maximum range will shorten quite a bit with a 1.5-second max travel time.
anyway, we're getting off topic
in reunion he uses flashbang right?
yes
Why was John Cena in the invasion thing 😭😭😭
It is John Cenigma
real and same
i thought it was hilarious
somba U🚫©️Me emote when
Omg fr
well you see a dutch character took the place of a islander so its historically accurate
his name is mountain in samoan ,thats why its speculated
the samoa poster next to peru poster could be a hint, not certain tho
hmm AND the fact that it was said by dev that they wanted to release Mauga instead of Sigma but the kit they wanted to release just didn't fit the lore of Mauga
it's interesting because I've been theorizing that Sigma has something to do with the Iris and the Awakening of omnics
so IF they initially wanted to release Mauga and instead have Sigma released later in OW2 when they go into more detail about The Awakening and omnic sentience...
how do ya guys think cole lost his arm
Maybe someone shot on his arm
i dont know i dont think he would lose an entire arm from bein' shot
Yeah
he's got enough enemies at this point it's hard enough to pin down
enemies from his deadlock days, blackwatch days, vigilante/mercenary days...
could be anything, there are no hints yet
Maybe an explosion, sounds like Ashe knows of it
Maybe from the Deadlock days
But Echo didn't know of it so nvm
he lost it after the fall of Overwatch
because Torbjorn doesn't know how it happened
I see
Just a guess, but maybe Reaper was looking to tie up any loose ends he could find
One such being Cole
He might’ve got a lucky shot in and, given what his shotguns ammo can do, probably did a number on Cole’s arm
So much so that it had to be amputated
It wouldn’t be too much of a stretch. Reaper knows first hand the kinda threat his old team can pose to Talon
While Moira joined them, Cole wouldn’t be so easily convinced and Genji… well I don’t think or anyone knew where Genji was
He doesn’t
I personally think he lost his arm trying to save Mina Liao in the terrorist attack
He was obviously close to her and echo so he was nearby a lot
Also Mauga’s kit is already kinds shown, from the pictures of him in baptistery comic he has a Gatling gun
Gattling gun
Or however it’s spelt
yea i wanted to say that his arm would need an amputation if he were shot with guns like reapers one, that do not have a single bullet but somethin' that just makes shit explode
Like the heavy soldiers in talon missions
i mean echo had no idea where did his arm go
she was askin' 'bout it
I don’t think echo was online during the terrorist attack
In the echo story we know she knew why she had weapons
I think she’d at least try to save her
But she doesn’t comment on it except asking questions
i like batman more then ben 10
why did overwatch call up some crusty old bald man
when they coulda called up someone younger and probably more fit
Who are you talking about?
Balderich
why'd they call up Baldrich instead of Rein
because Balderich was the leader of the Crusaders
well yes, but he was getting old by then
not that old
wouldn't it have made more sense to recruit someone younger so they'd last longer
by that logic, Balderich was the leader of the crusaders, and if he left, that'd mean Rein or the other Crusader woulda had to take over for the crusaders
why not tho
did they forsee their own downfall
because they expected Overwatch to end the crisis quickly
it didn't matter how long they lived after that
but imagine having to call together the squad cause some problem arises
like what happened now
wouldn't it make more sense for someone who was younger
so you get the same experience
but they're actually still young
someone younger isn't going to have the experience that Balderich had
well, I mean
true
and after watching the rein cinematic
I doubt they woulda wanted him anyway
cause he refuses to do the one job he's supposed to do
I'm more curious of why the UN accepted Reinhardt when he showed up instead of Balderich
I guess they were desperate
they could have taken back his medallion and sent it out to someone else
like who tho
like, Rein is an OG hero
there's literally no other named crusader
and given that Rein was Balderich's apprentice
they just said "f*ck it"
we don't know why they wanted a Crusader
they could have recruited someone from the Russian army, a svyatogor pilot
we can speculat tho
also, why doesn't Orisa have the freaking glowing blade melee
that sh*t was lit
I always assumed they took Rein in place of Balderich bc it's what Balderich wanted. I mean he did handpick Rein. If they wanted Balderich enough to pick him I'm sure they trusted his judgment...
Bc OR15s were robot police. Not killing machines
Balderich didn't have to do the handoff but he did
I guess that's a good enough reason
4 days! Get excited. A war is coming
What war?
Overwatch invasion by null sector incoming august 10
The or15s were gaurds, they didnt need a big lasercsword
kiriko hanzo cin when
Never. They’re getting a story. 2024
This is kind of a strange question but I've had apex brainrot lately so
Do you think vantage would even compare to ana/widow?
Other universes
how old was genji in the scene where he saved the overwatch team from the Titan robot
We got no clue cuz other universes we dint know the ideas
idrk apex lore
We dont know how much time passed since everything
about 35
Just mid twenties
according to her bio she was 12 when Sojiro Shimada was assassinated
which according to Asa's letter, happened 12 years ago
12 + 12 = 24
Oh like a mini game
Just dont think bout it too much
they trained together as kids
Yea
it doesn't say they were the same age at the time
if Kiriko is 5 and Genji is 16, that's still "training together as kids"
Im hoping illari lore is good
What we saw from her with that like tesr on her seemed cool
Kiriko lore i hate as everyone knows, lw just kinda exists
Lw did add to vishkar tho so thats nice
Not a mini game. It’s the Story Missions that have been coming since 2019
If only kirikos lore wasn’t slapped together and shipped because the upper management saw her as an absolute money bank
reaper is 59 though. soldier is 56
Funny how reaper calls sigma an old man but he’s just 4 years older or so
The image that shows them training does not give a very clear image of their age difference IMO 😭
Why did I think Lucio was younger
How come zen is 20? Wasn’t omnic crisis 30 years ago?
And people ask him what he did before the crisis
the new biographies got rid of the ages... they could change or just retcon some ages to fit their narrative now
it still feels much worse to have them be more than like 6 years apart
it feels like they went through a lot together as kids but genji would’ve been an adult by the time she would’ve been 7
I want to head canon kiri as like 29-31 at least for now
and they did tweaked thing a bit with Kiriko either way - she magically went form "she was 7 when Sojiro Shimada was killed " in an official YT short to " she was twelve y/o when Sojiro was assassinated" a month later when the put the biographies back online
Kiriko is the queen of retcons and odd lore stuff
that she is
Brigitte is torbjorns oldest right?
I figured it out 
People thought she was the oldest because it shows her with torb’s grandkids/her nieces/nephews in her xmas comic
OH
Torbjorn has such a large lineage 
Yeah I totally forgot, even mercy says “think about your grandchildren” when boosting torb
It's 19 heroes playable ?
What??
It wasn't precise
I've seen apparently there are 19 playable heroes in PvE
And they made 12 000 VL
I think it means across the 3 missions there’s 19 heroes that u can play in total but I may be wrong
Only a few days until we find out tho 
That’s big
Hello! I know voicelines aren't canon but, does DVa have a crush in Bob?
You answered your own question
They’re canon in the sense that they are what the heroes think, but they’ve just never said it to each other
Dva thinks Bob is cute but has never had that conversation with Ashe
Oh got it! Yeah, that make sense. Thanks buddy!
“I saw u standing next to a cute guy on a wanted poster” or something like that is the line she says, so obviously seen him on wanted posters around
Np 
Ashe & BOB aren’t going to have wanted posters in Busan, Korea
That’s so sad
She is with overwatch now tbf so she doesn’t just stay in Busan
That doesn’t mean she knows anything about Ashe or BOB
They’re not gonna be wanted by the entire world, especially the countries Overwatch is going to, to fight Null Sector
And the only one who could tell her bout them is Cole
Who already doesn’t talk about his old life as is
If Ashe were to choose between overwatch and talon, who would she join
Probably Talon, but only if their pay is good. Ashe will never join Overwatch. 
Talon WOOOO
Ashe wouldn't join either
she likes being her own boss
Imagine Junker Queen and Ashe together... daaaaaamn
Never
I'm the queen 'round these parts.
Bob wins
he'll pretend, just to be polite
That! 👆
flattening it
oh
finally watching the short and huh, Genji as OW agent huh
People on the left photo though
Bruh
her squad from the CAF
Sojourn's squad from the Canadian Armed Forces
during the crisis
the Crisis was 30 years ago right? How come zen is 20 then
they haven't explained it
maybe he counts his age from when he found enlightenment as a monk
maybe he was built after the crisis
That can’t be possible since he’s sentient and people ask him what he did before the crisis
people make assumptions, doesn't mean they're right
What isn’t right? That hes 20?
that he was alive before the crisis
But when aurora gave sentience to the omnics, that helped ending the crisis, so every omnic built after that can’t be sentient since Aurora was gone
correct
we don't know when that was, exactly
only that it was after the omnic crisis started [30 years ago]
the omnic crisis could have lasted 10 years
it probably didn't, but we dont know for sure
there could be some other explanation for Zenyatta's age
or no explanation
Maybe age just works different for omnics
After all, they don't age like humans and what's more they probably never gave themselves an age until they became sentient
Are there omnics that were built to be like kids
And do they just mentally stay kids
How does omnic personality work
I kind of doubt, but it depends how many models were built
I'm pretty sure omnics can grow mentally and faster than humans too
And they can easily alter their bodies as they want. We see that around the world
why does mercy have wings if she cant constantly fly
Be more specific. Are you talking about the game or lore
I guess lore would be related to game? Or are they detached
I was told other things are like reaper reload and where bob comes from during ult
Lore n game abilities are not the same
Ok, wasnt sure if there was lore why
Mercy can fly. As seen in Storm Rising, Zero Hour, her short story, and in the Rio mission demo opening cut scene
The #1 question that will always haunt me is that there are 2 bastions in a game despite bastion being the "last bastion"
Oh interesting, so they arent "her" wings
Bastion is the last Gen 1 Bastion
However, Russia is still fighting the same Gen and Busan is dealing with the Gwishin version
But arent they both Gen 1 Bastions?
There's only 1 Bastion left from the Crisis
Yes, so how are there 2 in a game
And they're the only Bastion to have sentience
There is only 1 in game. Idk why you think there 2
Are you new to the game?
Not to the game, but to lore yes
Well there's your problem. In game everyone can pick a hero on the roster
It not that both teams access 1 roster
Lore and in game are not the same
Imagine if they had access to 1 roster, would be insane lol
But now Im off lore discussion so Ill stop
You really should watch the animated shorts on PlayOverwatch on YT
Ive seen a few of them (How I know about last bastion), just random questions that pop into my head
Like I know about most of the alliances and whos a "bad guy" (Reaper, Widow when they tried stealing something from the Museum)
Gwishin Bastions were made after the crisis
i just noticed, murphy has cybernetics
Gwishin "Hero" when?
The closest and only thing you’re getting is the Gwishin Bastion skin
Tho, I do hope future story missions will include something with Gwishin
I’d love to fight those things
Plus, maybe Overwatch and MEKA could finally put a stop to the Gwishin for good
I doubt
Is dva a member of overwatch and meka
Three days! Would've been tomorrow too but, sadly not
why not tho
that shit was lit
Bc they were meant to be robot police to protect Numbani by subduing threats like Doomfist. Not killing machines
you can clearly tell they kinda failed their job
cause doomfist straight up punched 80 of them into the airport walls
you know what woulda helped
big ass laser swords...
They never dealt with Doomfist until then. And a sword wouldn’t have made a difference against a man who clearing wasn’t going to be affected by guns
Rein was an overconfident cocky idiot and those OR14s were built specifically to counter the Crusaders
Doomfist is neither overconfident or anything like the Crusaders
doomfist got defeated by a 12 year old girl, her science project, and a DJ
also in lore keep in mind this isnt true
Wrong. Defeat means he lost. He retreated to attack another day
from what we know
So until Doomfist is recaptured, he hasn’t lost yet
as or14s could already stop rein
well then
doomfist retreated from a 12 year old girl, her science project, and a DJ
orisa was specifically built to fight doomfist tho tbf'
all the other ones didn't do their job but apparently this one did
doom is no slacker
they should hire efi
They didn’t stop him. He can attack any time he wants. But he’s bidding his time to move his plans forward with Null Sector
thats legit what is happening kinda
shes in a museum
doom cant defeat orisa, cuz orisa was built specifically to beat him
it's much more believable when you say, doomfist retreated from a scientifically engineered gorilla, a time-manipulating fighter pilot, and a cybernetically enhanced robot ninja
Efi isn’t joining Overwatch and I highly doubt Orisa will either. Efi is too young and Orisa is the only hero Numbani has
Tracer and Genji couldn’t do shit. They got smashed into the ground
yes, but it's still much more believable than Orisa, Efi and Lucio
i could see them like helping orisa fight him by fending off like gents who could stop orisa like sombra
Only bc Doom was caught off guard by Orisa being upgraded to fight him again. She was different from their last encounter
..... do you have ANY idea how powerfull orisa is?
is she more powerful than Winston?
orisa breaks car hoods, by accident
very likely yes
are all OR-15s like this?
no
Orisa is the only OR15 to be rebuilt into a hero
doom levels skyscrapers
as we've said multiple times, shes not a regular or15
with a single punch
hearsay
it was said by a kid that OTHERS said he could
Unless you actually see him do that, then it is just people over exaggerating
then again, there's not much to determine how powerful he is
cause we haven't seen how powerful primal winston is
there is, his origin story
Regular OR15 were just designed to be peacekeepers
or15s werent built to go up against doom, orisa had specific stuff built in to fight him
Orisa has that bongo also, whatever it does
if we're gonna talk about the bongo
I find it ironic that Orisa sucks on the literal only map she's suppsed to be on
Doomfist wasn’t a threat because of his power. He’s a threat because of his charisma as a leader and capacity to manipulate others to his cause
Doomfist can be good on numbani tho
doom is in the upper group of power but defo not at the top. hes just very smart and tactical
But also he has the most powerful weapon
Which he upgraded
the singular most powerful weapon every wielded by an individual
like most powerfull are, not in order, sym, potentially lw funnily enough cuz architect, sigma (dont know limits) orisa and winston
Doomfist is always growing stronger both as a combatant and as dangerous leader of Talon
either tracer's got the durability level of a city block or doom's just full of shit
doom also defo is somewhere high up tho
hes defo not like what ashe
no hate to ashe but realistically, shes just a good markswoman with a gun
Doomfist never said he could level skyscrapers
he punched through a concrete wall and that's about it
oh hell no
he fucking created a enourmous crater
And he didn’t have to actually hit Tracer. She was too fast for him. However, he calculated when to strike and his patience paid off
look at when he tries to get genji, he casually creates a huge crater in the ground
with such force that it lifts multiple cars
1 second of windup
orisa's thing is being an immovable object while doom is an unstoppable force, basically theyll always just have stalemates
tracer just, decides to teleport into doom's reach
seems about right
cuz one cannot win as one cant be stopped and the other cant be moved, so it just clashes. one cant deal enough dmg to the other but wont break and vice ferca
its cuz they couldnt really hurt him so had to stay close
She’s dancing circles around him and he can’t land a hit on her. She didn’t expect him to know precisely where she’d appear
How does fortify work in lore?
Hell, Tracer and Genji. Tracer probably had to ghost in and out for hours again and Genji probably ended up in medical care after that hit
it doesnt exist, thats her base form
shes always fortified kinda
you could speculate it has to do with her miniature toblestein that also was used for old right click
What’s a toblestein
I mean look at this. The man using real life cheat codes to find Tracer fr
so toblestein reactors are gravity based things
He rips something off her back, what is that
you could speculate thats how she also stops it
watch tracer origin story
but basically its what keeps her in reality
No, that’s in front
in this timeline, which is why its so fucked up
In her chest
both are the same thing
she starts freaking out after it
most likely he just ripped out part of the circuit with it aswell
Kind of
Witness the return of one of Talon’s leaders: Doomfist.
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that Zen keeps talking about
watch on 1:15
@sharp rover it was the state of consciousness Aurora achieved in order to grant omnics sentience
Haha I won
so why can Zen only use it once in a while
We haven’t seen Zen use it yet
None of zen powers are canon
How old does the new hero look
20s-30s
Lore wise, what are the 3 strongest villains and 3 strongest heroes?
Here we go again…
Fr. I’m almost certain everyone is tired of hearing the same question over who’s strongest
How could I know if it’s my first time here :/ ….my bad tho
Villains: doom, sig (?), ram
Heroes: Orisa, Winston, genji (?)
Orisa? That’s cool, I know barely nothing about her lore
Depends what you mean by strongest
She stopped doomfist so
Is there a comic or something about it?
Yes
imo villians are doom sym (kinda)and ram
Heroes are Winston Oriya and
Sym isn’t villain
Btw, the most villain villain is doom or ram?
Doom, although ow2 will focus on ram a lot
So you said those coz:
-Doom and Ram don’t need explanation
-Primal Winton beat Doom
-Orisa beat doom
-Sig have high potential ?
-post Zen Genji god in cinematics ?
Or there is something else?
Pretty much, not sure about genji tho
Is this voice line canon?
Genji(after Zen): Doomfist, you are truly a worthy foe.
Doom: if we fight again…I can’t promise you will walk Away this time
Genji: Nor can I
Voice lines are not canon
Not even events one like storm rising?
I wanna know what his ultimate is
They are
Is that the same dude who is on the roof later?
I see
This guy too
yeh
The barista looked interesting also
They are 100% Not canon, or there is some true thought and meaning behind them? Example: Genji really think it even if he never actually said it?
They are like suggestions of what the heroes could say if they met
So they aren’t canon but plausible dialogues
Yeah
I see, thanks
The moment I saw the barista I screamed HUMAN BOB

The barista is the same one we see in an ad on New Queen Street.
Wait was the petras act signed AFTER the destruction of the swiss base?
yes
In the final years of Overwatch's existence, a top secret division called "Blackwatch" was revealed. There were stories of assassination, coercion, kidnapping, torture, and worse. Governments called on the UN to shut down the "aggressive and repeated violations of many countries' sovereignty." As public distrust swelled, a massive explosion wiped out Overwatch's headquarters in Switzerland. The United Nations called it an accident; today we know it was a battle, a dispute between Overwatch commander Jack Morrison and Blackwatch commander Gabriel Reyes. Overwatch's death knell was that of two former comrades laying waste to all they had built.
The United Nations could do nothing but shut down Overwatch. Few people at the time doubted it was the right call. The world had never been more peaceful—the biggest threat to global stability and growth was, in many minds, Overwatch itself. Its time had passed.```
I mean i just needed a yes but that works
(keep in mind this is some of the oldest lore we have, so it's subject to change)
So sojurn and the others didnt violate petras during storm rising
no, Storm Rising was before that
Good to know then
rough timeline of the last 15 years:
-15: Mercy joins Overwatch
-12: Sojiro Shimada is assasinated, Hanzo almost kills Genji, Genji is saved by Overwatch
-10: Ramattra reactivates the omnium in Antarctica
-9: Ecopoint Antarctica is hit by a polar storm, Mei's team goes into cryostasis
-8: Retribution/Slipstream incident
-7: Uprising
-6: Storm Rising/Ana goes MIA/Jack and Gabe fight and blow up the HQ
-5: the Petras Act is signed, Overwatch disbanded
0: Recall
+1: Zero Hour
Ah
We wanted it and they delivered
The gun looks the same because it's not in game yet

I have to wonder if the UN will attempt to shut Winston's Overwatch down, even after they save numerous cities. I can just imagine Talon pressuring the UN through "legitimate channels" to take military action against Overwatch.
Hell, I suspect the Petras Act was Talon bullshit designed to shut down the one organization that could threaten them.
what is the iris? what does sigma have to do with it? does sigma know everything ever??
where are y’all finding lore, other than all the videos? is it the comics?
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dont forget sym
we dont know if they are as we've never seen him in combat
Nevermind misread it
Sym as what? Hero, villain.
I mean, his upt makes him literally transcend so that might be a Zen power
Two days! Hope we get a trailer today :]
reading the comics I like how junkrat and road hog tried going to the side of good
Yes but they meant strongest, symm’s tech is powerful but I wouldn’t say she herself is really strong
i wonder if someone will ever bring up to ramattra that he's doing almost exactly what anubis did? like, mass producing non sentient robots for his own goals, even if those goals have a little more merit than whatever anubis wanted. especially since ram doesnt seem to like anubis i have to wonder if he's even realized the parallels
He’s even brainwashing omnics and forcing them to join him, which we saw in the trailer for pve
who tf is anubis
i heard ram mention it to pharah in one of their voicelines but idk what it is
the god program that controlled omnics during the omnic crisis
oh ok
right!!!
didnt australia get blown up during the omnic crisis and that's why junkrat is... junkrat
i think so yes
one of the omniums Exploded
like for such an intimidating figure. he doesnt have a lot of self awareness lmao
something something blinded by rage, maybe
wait so what was the omnic crisis
i havent really looked into overwatch lore
i understand it was something about null sector because they mentioned it in the pve trailer being "different" this time?
null sectoe wasnt around back then
the omnic crisis was when anubis took over the abandoned omniums and started mass producing omnics to kill all humans
you should watch the 3 genesis shorts if you havent
aren't they the anime shorts
yeah
so the omnic crisis was in the shorts like reindhart's?
yeah
ohh ok
in reindhart's short, was the thing that blinded reindhart the precursor to orisa, then?
yeah, an OR-14
ok
those ones were desifned by anubis, and then i think numbani made OR-15s as police robots based on those, and then efi made orisa based on an OR-15
like, the arena battles and whatnot?
he's called the champion so i imagine so
then why isn't he the king of junkertown? they said that whoever wins it because the king/queen
oh i was thinking of the wrong thing
he didnt do that, junkertown has mech battles or something
i dont remwmber the exact details but they basically just Fight for fun sometimes i think
oh alright
Probably some unwritten backstory where Hammond fights in the thunderdome so JQ can rule
ok
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Wrong place
The omnics revolted against humans
war
oh ok
i wouldnt call it a revolt since that implies the omnics had a choice in the mattwr
I said revolt since they did technically go from working fo rhuamsn to against them
For humans
true but they were being controlled
He never challenged junker queen tho
The Crisis was omnics suddenly and without warning started attacking humans
Or he tried and lost
i thought in the arena that hammond fought in the same arena as the wastelander short, and in that short the king is involved
EXPLAIN OVERWATCH LORE FOR A ADHD PERSON NOW
i dont remember the short but i imagine the king was thwre to watch or just to fuck around
HOW DO I EXPLAIN IN ADHD??
he was in the middle of it and then started fighting, so i assume he was involved
It was some time later they learned that a God AI, Anubis, had suddenly taken control of all omnics and making them attack humanity
SOUND STUPID
Big robot guy named Anubis mind controlled all robots in the world against humans
there is no cheese
Then a smaller robot called aurora sacrificed herself to give all omnics emotions
Then the humans won against the rest of the evil robots
ANOTHER EVIL GROUP CALLED TALON WANTS TO SEE PPL FIGHT ALL OILED UP
OH NO
SO THEY MAKE PPL FIGHT AND THEN LAUGH IN A EVIL WAY

The world was at peace because of machines. Machines suddenly turn against humanity. A 10 year war breaks out. An elite team called Overwatch was formed to win. One machine, the first sentient robot, saved the world

Then overwatch was BANNED from discord because the public found out about a secret channel called black watch where they did bad jokes
But then a moderator called Winston many years ago saw that discord was boring and recalled everyone to fight for the better of discord

thank you
Also
I knew the whole lore the whole time
I just wanted to laugh at something lol
Is that what Talon does?
that litterly helped me understand ow lore more omg ty
My eyes have been opened
Basically yes
Yw!!
That’s kinda hot
Hey can someone explain what invasion is about to me
null sector (ramattras group) is invading the world to liberate omnics
overwatch is attempting to stop it
Null Sector is invading major cities around the world in the name of omnic "liberation"
Could someone tell me where Talon lies in all this?
Null Sector has teamed up with Talon to use their global resources
I'm curious to see Illari's lore
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It seems that we have backtracked in terms of battlepass' making sense.
I was expecting cool omnic skins, but it looks like only around half of the skins are on theme.
That's actually a shame, I was gonna buy it but it's really off for me. The mythic is absolutely amazing, but the lack of omnic skins throw me off.
Also, Doc was right, it was a Sym skin
We've actually been getting loads of Sym skins recently.
FELLAS
It's like a snake omnic
So cool
Based on a few voicelines I heard in game, I’m not sure Ramattra is gonna stay in that alliance for long
wjere dod ypu find this
nvm found it
This is very very huge
Could we say this is the biggest update in all Overwatch history ?
Yep, look at the gun! Different color :]
Oh LAWD
Alright fellas
Ima go over dis
OKAY
The Anniversary has me HYPED
Illari looks so frikkin' awesome! We don't deserve her. 😭
And it starts mid season!
I won't say it enough but Suravasa looks fire
I wonder what cosmetics are going to be rewarded though
Crocs!
it would be nice if we got illari trailer tho when we're two days from release
Oh thanks for showing us btw Doc (I'm a lil lazy)
Oh woah! They will add King of the Hill?
Man, I'm very excited! A lot of things coming this week! Ana skin looks like a Warframe skin, awesome!
That new hero a big game changer fr
Those stories look so well made
And the skins are so fucking sick! Hyped
Also like Zarya finally getting a cool skin for a change. Looks like Junker Zarya
would hero mastery actually help you in any way or is it just for fun
I’d imagine it’s to help you practice with heroes you suck at without the need to go into quick play and get chewed out for sucking
That’s my best guess
and hero mastery is just cosmetics right?
not mastery
sorry
the progression thing or whatever
I don’t think it’s apart of progression like as leveling up per say
Idk
Pretty sure mastery is just an updated version of the training map
We have to wait n see. Besides regular matches, pretty sure Story will have hero progression too iir
Thanks
I mean… people will find a way to hate this game regardless of what Blizzard does. They can’t please everyone
It's the Mr beast situation
I'm in love with her
Ayo
That’s the puller, but they probably changed her name, bc Puller sounds…
I’m interested to see illari lore
Good
It's fine
she's called the Stalker now
gosh her new design looks even better than it was 2 years ago
Stalker is better than Puller fr
I knew it was Symm
You got me there Doc
This is the 3rd in a row
This season is gonna be really fun!
Again, the ONLY downside is the Battlepass in terms of skins are.. iffy..
Again, with Overwatch, getting futuristic skins is just not a priority. This has happened with both Cybernetic and now Invasion
Looks like the Nulltroopers got a sharp upgrade
Was Kiri and Lw mentioned in the lore before they were revealed?
SHES SO CUNTY
hello
nop dont think so
Kiriko was hinted at since Kanezaka came out, unlike Lifeweaver - and in a letter from Kiriko's mother - Asa - to her father published in 2021
The silhouette looked a little masculine so I thought it was LW
its probably gonna have a bunch of epics that have nothing to do with the theme
Omnic skins look nice but the Ashe, torb, zarya, roadhog skins look so random
the skins for the Bundle and Premium Bundle
I’m assuming roadhog and torb skin could be free epics
Sojourn back at it again with underwhelming legendaries
Don’t get me wrong, the skin looks fine, but it’s too weak of a legendary
Honestly not sure if I’ll be getting this battle pass
I’ll decide when we get to see all the cosmetics I think
But the skins look underwhelming
Downgrades people, downgrades
no but the 15$ bundle gives 1000 coins
in a 15$ bundle that gives you 1000 coins so you can buy the BP with it if you want
Where does it say that???
Hm
Alr
I'd recommend not to buy this BP
Hopefully psn tax doesnt ruin me
What illari skin is in battle pass?
They did so good being on theme with s4 and s5
Havent shown
Lame
what did they mess up
llama pyjamas from the leaks apparently
The skins
I think it showed the price in coins next to it so I doubt
all the skins r omnic tho?
Zarya get another ugly skin 🙃
Not all
Which is a shame because this theme is really cool
Nope
Junker Zarya doesn't look that bad
did the new battle pass come out?
Ashe, Zarya, Winston, Torb, Roadhog aren’t
pls send pics of the ones that werent
the skins in the trailer may be the shop
It’s supposed to be Junker????
So Ashe torb are also junker?
5 of the 8 aren't themed around Invasion nor Null Sector
Honestly a lot of those skins look like epics
We're back in Season 2
Ashe, Torb, and Hog.
Winston changes too much
Having 4 epics sucks so Zarya isn't epic
..so.. in reality we have.. nothing
what about suravasa
For Invasion theme?????
Exactly
relax they may just be shop skins
We may only hope.
well im extremely excited for the battlepass no matter what
new support
all this new content
Junkrat is getting a Junker Skin?
So epics: Junkrat, Torb, Roadhog
Two of those will be free I guess
This worries me
These skins are really weak compared to other seasons, shop, event, battlepass or not.
Yeah…
I was mega hyped because other than events the skins are hype
Ah, wait!
Map changes!
As in daytime to night
Evening
That stuff!
I'm excited for that! Hope it's good
Is there any gameplay for the new healer?
Only trailer
For the support all we have seen is her turret, ult, and a movement ability
And her primary fire
I wonder how she heals though
Nothing in detail atm
So they will launch her tomorrow?
Turret
With no intro lawl
wait do we know what the mythic skin is yet
Yes
Ana
Ana
This BP underwhelming atm
They’re buffing Orisa it won’t be
In the higher ranks she isnt much of a problem so i probably wont have to see her fat cow arse in my lobby
sigma and orisa have to be the most balanced tanks out rn
I’m in d1 I just main queen and she’s a hard counter so I see her all the time
Jq vs orisa is painful 
Once oriss runs out of cooldowns after she misses everything head shotting her 3 times is satisfying
Born to play lifeweaver one tricks liveweaver
I was gm 2 back in season 3 than i played lifeweaver (im diamond 4)

lol
The risks you take to have fun in a video game
people hate on lifeweaver a lot but if you can find someone who is good with him he's amazing
and does the right pulls
one time i got pulled into hanzo's dragon and died
LOL
his hitbox is crazy big
so if your enemy can aim yes
but the pulls are huge especially for tanks that dive
winston and doomfist
dva
no one should play lw
i love bap
I one trick him
Kitsune on launch
500 hp zen>
Y would you nano zen 💀
well im just used to nano dragon blade
thats why i think it's worth
a dry blade usually doesnt work too well sometimes
especially when you got sym, moira, zarya
and other heros
i hate kiri with the suzu
I meant the time armor would stack
Huh
Brig was able to give teamates 150 hp
And torb was able to give 75
Tank zen goes crazy
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