When do we learn about Bob's origins for his sentience?
#lore-discussion
woven jewel
past copper
When do we learn about Bob's origins for his sentience?
We don’t
peak escarp
When do we learn about Bob's origins for his sentience?
there's an upcoming short story featuring Ashe and BOB before the crisis
Bob gained sentience during the crisis, like every other omnic
past copper
If it’s before the Crisis tho, wouldn’t that mean BOB didn’t have sentience until near the end of it
Idk. We really need a detailed timeline of Overwatch. Saying how many years the Crisis lasted and how long Overwatch was active after the war, some say 5 others 10 years
It gets confusing as hell
golden oak
Bob gained sentience during the crisis, like every other omnic
He doesn’t seem sentient tbh
Like, he’s still a servant and we only see him following orders from Ashe, he doesn’t even talk
peak escarp
plenty of sentient people can't talk
golden oak
I know but like
peak escarp
he seems to actually care about Ashe, more than her parents at least
golden oak
In this case it really seems like he’s just not awakened
Is there a comic or story where you can see their relationship best?
limpid agate
The novel
He is sentient
Just because he follows someone doesn't mean they're not sentient
peak escarp
limpid agate
Otherwise you can doubt everyone who works in every fast food restaurant ever
Or every soldier
Every butler
etc
peak escarp
being obedient doesn't mean you lack free will
he obeys Ashe because he cares for her
and Ashe values him as a person
she gets pissed when someone else bets Bob on a race like he was some kind of possession
Deadlock Rebels is an excellent novel, I highly recommend it
esp. the audiobook read by Jen Hale
tame garden
Y is ana pharahs mom
peak escarp
on the topic of sentience though... Orisa may not be
peak escarp
Y is ana pharahs mom
yes
golden oak
esp. the audiobook read by Jen Hale
Is that one of voice actors?
peak escarp
yes
golden oak
Ashe?
golden oak
Y is ana pharahs mom
Yes
peak escarp
Orisa for Hero of Numbani and Sojourn for Sojourn
spare fox
Sojourn's audio book was really good. I honestly was "meh" about her but now I think she's the character I'd most get along with lol
golden oak
on the topic of sentience though... Orisa may not be
She was made with a purpose so probably yeah
She’s like AI or something
peak escarp
the OR15 she was made from was built post-crisis iirc
which would also be post-Awakening
golden oak
I think she was made from the scrap from the OR15 that doom destroyed
golden oak
Btw is fortify canon?
solemn nebula
Y is ana pharahs mom
birthing
woven jewel
You see when a mama ana and a papa ana love each other very much-
peak escarp
her dad's name is Sam
woven jewel
the bees contacted the storks network, so the birds brought baby Pharah to Sam and Ana, and said, "Babies Rain From Above" before promptly leaving
peak escarp
Pharah and Kiriko are the two heroes we have baby photos for
woven jewel
Interesting thing I found tho
peak escarp
woven jewel
We were briefly introduced to Sam Amari, the former partner of Ana Amari and Fareeha Amari’s (Pharah’s) father. He is canonically part of an indigenous nation in western Canada. We don’t know much about Ana and Sam’s relationship, other than that they met before the Omnic Crisis and had a daughter together.
One thing we do know is that Ana hasn’t revealed that she is still alive to Sam. He still believes her to have died in Poland when she first went into hiding. This fact was revealed in the Bastet comic, written by MIchael Chu and released in 2019, with Ana saying: "I made a big enough mess of his life without having to give him the news."
woven jewel
yoooo
peak escarp
Sam is implied to be from Vancouver, so he's probably from one of the First Nations there
woven jewel
Ooh
peak escarp
I'm from Vancouver, so I know a bit about them
golden oak
It makes sense why pharah has some Native American inspired skins
vapid tusk
i know this is very off-topic but dang young Ana ❤️
so when Genji was in his Blackwatch days, he was mostly filled with rage, right?
woven jewel
basically
woven jewel
i know this is very off-topic but dang young Ana ❤️
Also I agree
woven jewel
Hmm
Maybe at both
Or everything
Maybe he hated life
Wiki seems kinda vague on it
Just says he was clouded by rage/anger
spare fox
It makes sense. His own family had him killed, by his own brother no less. He lost literally everything including the use of most of his body which he had spent a lifetime training
glacial zinc
✨ Hi-Hi! ✨ ヾ(＾∇＾)
I’m here now
Blackwatch Genji just killed
In retribution he slaughtered an entire group of talon soldiers without breaking a sweat, bodies everywhere
And when things went south (Gabriel killing that guy) he was prepared to kill some more
He was a beast, a living weapon
Overwatch screwed him over by constantly reminding him he was part robot (they kinda just chunked robot body parts on and left him with the scars and wires)
past copper
Genji wasn’t like Sojourn tho
We don’t know the extent of his injuries
Only that based on his Blackwatch skin, they were severe enough to have to do everything they could to save him
glacial zinc
Genji wasn’t like Sojourn tho
Sojourn disliked others for making her feel less, Genji hated himself (he probably constantly wondered why Hanzo killed him) and he started to hate everything around him
He could have easily joined Talon if he hadn’t found Zenyatta
Also I think he was cut in half
past copper
It’s almost certain he knew why Hanzo did it. He’s well aware of the traditions his clan upheld
But he just wouldn’t have imagined they would’ve made his brother be the one to kill him
glacial zinc
It’s almost certain he knew why Hanzo did it. He’s well aware of the traditions ...
Still, he might have wondered why Hanzo went to such lengths
He definitely wasn’t in the best mental health after he was “killed”
past copper
You wouldn’t be either if instead being allowed to rest in peace, you were turned into what amounts to a monster
He hated himself for that, but his hatred towards his clan no doubt outweighed that
glacial zinc
You wouldn’t be either if instead being allowed to rest in peace, you were turne...
He was probably taught to hate Omnics (Hanzo only killed an Omnic in Dragons)
glacial zinc
He hated himself for that, but his hatred towards his clan no doubt outweighed t...
Eventually the hate probably imploded and he just started hating everything
past copper
He was probably taught to hate Omnics (Hanzo only killed an Omnic in Dragons)
Doubtful. The people of Japan have shown to respect and treat omnics as equals
That Omnic was either just unfortunate or the writers didn’t want to kill a person on screen
Not counting Soldier’s actions in his short
glacial zinc
That Omnic was either just unfortunate or the writers didn’t want to kill a pers...
Weird why they had the omnic killed, they could have just had him knocked out like everyone else
glacial zinc
Not counting Soldier’s actions in his short
He started popping off
past copper
Weird why they had the omnic killed, they could have just had him knocked out li...
Again, bc they didn’t want to show humans getting killed and really the story wasn’t 100% solidified back then as it is now
glacial zinc
Again, bc they didn’t want to show humans getting killed and really the story wa...
Still one of my favourite shorts
We get to see Hanzo’s sword fighting technique
stuck mist
Does anyone know how reaper just keeps pulling shotguns out of know where? He does it in multiple animations and even junkrat says something about it lol. Does he have some pocket dimension or something?
glacial zinc
Got it
Genji was sliced in half from behind
Blood and a slice, so he was probably sliced in half for it to affect the banner
And for it to line up with the blackwatch skin he had to be cut from behind
There are also several cuts so that means after he was hacked in half he was sliced up some more
spare fox
We'll probably never know but maybe he was also thrown from that balcony area
How else could he have been saved?
Possibly causing further damage from that fall
glacial zinc
We know he was unable to walk
A retribution voiceline says Mercy gave him an option
And he took it because he wanted to walk
He was also in constant agony and his mind was in turmoil
merry token
Does anyone know how reaper just keeps pulling shotguns out of know where? He do...
It’s most likely just in-game, I’m pretty sure it’s not an actual lore feature
peak escarp
the most we've seen him use in the lore is 2 pairs
so the ones in his hands, plus a backup pair in his coat
vapid tusk
Does anyone know how reaper just keeps pulling shotguns out of know where? He do...
imagining Reaper as Doraemon has now cursed my mind, thanks
stuck mist
so the ones in his hands, plus a backup pair in his coat
Oh he has a backup? I thought that was a joke
spare fox
I think the guns are basically the same thing as the endless ammo all the heroes seem to have in game
in lore, they would have some kind of limited ammo that they could carry on themselves
golden oak
And for it to line up with the blackwatch skin he had to be cut from behind
They said in some interview that his lower torso is intact tho
golden oak
And for it to line up with the blackwatch skin he had to be cut from behind
Also his left hand is intact in this skin but in his default both of them look robotic
Or maybe it’s just the armor he has on, idk
stuck stump
Is dva playing a persona while on the job
glacial zinc
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glacial zinc
And for it to line up with the blackwatch skin he had to be cut from behind
I would probably abandon the sword too if I was Hanzo, “Honour is all I have left” he carved his brother like a turkey from behind 💀
stuck stump
Does Hanzo actually care about honor or respect
candid schooner
“Honour is all I have left”
shadow kayak
Is dva playing a persona while on the job
u mean like her gaming attitude? 
stuck stump
yeah
stuck stump
i like it personally, i feel like she's a nice person at heart
merry token
I would honestly prefer if they gave Dva a more serious side
ESP regarding the ramifications of being an active soldier at such a young age
shadow kayak
i think that’s the reason why she is like she is
golden oak
You can be in army and still have a bubbly personality
shadow kayak
she’s still very young so being petty with kills is kinda her thing
i would be petty too if i was her
like i’m young and killing 
shadow kayak
You can be in army and still have a bubbly personality
i think it’s cute for her
golden oak
You can be in army and still have a bubbly personality
It may be frowned upon in the military but I don’t think that’s gonna change how she behaves
rare trail
are the gwishin sentient?
spare fox
she had the whole pro-gamer persona before being hired by MEKA
spare fox
I wouldn't think so? they're specialized to fight flying omnics so
Shooting Star was kind of a weird cinematic tbh. I know she can't be the gamer gremlin all the time, but it also didn't feel like her personality.
- the gwishin attacking on a schedule?
- the whole "you can't do it alone!" lesson when... she fights alongside her team all the time?
idk, not very well thought out imo
peak escarp
I didn't like that she asked Daehyun for help... then immediately solved her own problem
spare fox
that too!
peak escarp
he should have been the one to suggest detonating the core
merry token
You can be in army and still have a bubbly personality
Ofc, but it’s still a young age to fight at; even if she is at the minimum age to join the army
Not saying her character has to do a whole 180° either, just that it would be nice to see a bit of something else explored
peak escarp
not that we know of
the only heroes currently confirmed to be in a relationship are Torbjorn (his wife is Ingrid) and Tracer (her girlfriend is Emily)
Mercy/Genji, and Brigitte have been hinted at, but not confirmed
Brigitte: Oh my gosh, Lena.
Tracer: Sooo... that's a no?
Brigitte: I'll... tell you later.```Seems like Brigitte is seeing someone
peak escarp
and Soldier, Reaper, Ana and Widowmaker have former relationships that ended for various reasons
Soldier had a boyfriend named Vincent before/during the crisis who broke up with him because Soldier was too dedicated to Overwatch
Reaper had a wife named Martina who thinks he's dead
Ana had a husband named Sam who thinks she's dead (also they might have divorced? it's unclear)
Widowmaker had a husband named Gerard who she killed
stuck stump
Do we see Widow before she killed Gerard?
peak escarp
stuck stump
Does she ever speak about him?
merry token
Does dva have a significant other
It’s me btw
merry token
Does she ever speak about him?
She has a solo voiceline where she just says his name, a voiceline with soldier regarding the flowers that Gerard would have preferred and some other stuff I’m pretty sure(?)
peak escarp
Does she ever speak about him?
in OW1 there was an interaction with Ana about him
Widowmaker: You don't know anything about him.```in OW2 she has two about him with Soldier
Soldier: 76: You know we were close.
Widowmaker: Not close enough to know he preferred roses.``` Soldier: 76: Did he say I warned him about you?
Widowmaker: Yes. He thought it was funny.```She does know about/remember him, if that’s what you’re trying to find out about. She visits his grave in a comic
stuck stump
It’s me btw
No me
merry token
No me
Mb I actually meant to reply to your Brigitte question which no longer holds the humor it once would with my old username ☠️
golden oak
Ofc, but it’s still a young age to fight at; even if she is at the minimum age t...
Except she’s killing murder robots and not people
merry token
Except she’s killing murder robots and not people
She’s still fighting and facing potentially fatal situations
golden oak
She’s still fighting and facing potentially fatal situations
Well she could possibly have ptsd in the future
lavish vessel
``` Widowmaker: Was the lily on Gérard's grave yours?
Soldier: 76: You kn...
I like this soldier one, he also says “that was for Gerard” after killing a widow
Sorry, left ping on
solemn nebula
damn i only knew the widow and gerard one
past copper
So, anyone else hear that some streamers have been getting codes and a mysterious figure as they gamed?
Wonder if it’s info on the new Hero or something else
shadow marsh
We do now have two weeks to find out who she is
peak escarp
seems to be marketing for Invasion
past copper
Well, last time they did this was around Ana’s origin short
And it was later hinting at Sombra
So maybe it is on the new hero or it could be something like an opening to invasion
Like Winston’s recorded message to all former agents of Overwatch
lavish vessel
I'd like to learn more about Gerard
Yeah same, maybe in another blackwatch archive mission with Gerard speaking could be cool
spare fox
I stg if it's another hero/character that's supposed to be dead lol
stuck stump
what pushed winston to reform overwatch
woven jewel
Talon and Null Sector resurgence I think?
Did Doomfist take over talon while ow was disbanded?
worthy rose
Wonder if it’s info on the new Hero or something else
There is a new hero???
woven jewel
Yeah
In Season 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4IHjX-tyxs
Starts talkin about new hero about 1 min 40s in
wraith veldt
Nice
woven jewel
If Peruan thing is true, hype
past copper
fresh rock
Their design is okay
worthy rose
its ok i guess
fresh rock
I notice they're HOLDING the weapon, so their hand is not a weapon
worthy rose
yea
spare fox
I think we might get another small tease for the hero tomorrow, and then the reveal next Tuesday or Thursday
likely Tuesday because they have Invasion stuff to tease and market as well before S6
past copper
Torb created everything
!!shitposting
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valid magnet
!!shitposting
Bro that is lore
The lore i believe
Why so mean
I mean i am sorry but damn
past copper
Fanfiction isn’t lore.
valid magnet
Fanfiction isn’t lore.
There is multiple religions and they believen diffrent things doesnt mean that some religions are fan fiction
Lore is the origin of something so is religion
valid magnet
^ who let this child into this server?
Who let this asshole in the server
past copper
Who let this asshole in the server
!!shitposting
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valid magnet
You were a child once that doesnt mean you or me are less than one another
valid magnet
!!shitposting
Abuse of power
valid magnet
^ who let this child into this server?
!!shitposting
valid magnet
Is someone missing a lost child?
!!shitposting
valid magnet
So stop shitposting
You are the dumbest person i have ever met because you are shit posting at the same time ass me
past copper
You shitposting bout torb and me calling you out for it is shitposting?
Very logical
valid magnet
You called me a child for one when not needed that was shitposting
Denying my claims shitposting too
valid magnet
Very logical
Very logical indeed
past copper
You’re claims have nothing to do with Overwatch lore
Shitposting
End of story
Case closed you lose
valid magnet
Bro you are even more childish than me "you lose"
Bro what is there even to win
A fucking keyboard warrior battle of nerds?
past copper
Then why are you continuing it? Let it die already
tepid terrace
mfw when two crankdoodles argue in a lore discussion of an fps
magic wing
lore accurate Cassidy be like
stuck stump
Is Zarya friendly?
rare trail
not to omnics
past copper
She’s growing more tolerant of them after traveling the world in search of Sombra
misty ruin
worthy rose
Is there a lore reason for MCree to change his name to Cassidy
no in the lore his name has always been Cassidy
glacial zinc
no in the lore his name has always been Cassidy
💀
So they just erased any trace of MCree
Jesse McCree was a cool sounding name
So screamable
stuck stump
There's a good reason for it
glacial zinc
“McCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!”
glacial zinc
There's a good reason for it
I know
So there is no lore reason for McCree to have his name changed?
It just happened and it turns out everyone called him Cassidy?
past copper
I mean, lore wise, I think everyone just accepts that he was using an alias, Jesse McCree
Or something like that. Otherwise, there isn’t a definitive reason
woven jewel
Wow that's long
But it's Blizzard's lore reason for Cassidy's name change
It fits cuz he's about to lead the new overwatch
So accepting his real name was symbolic in-lore
limpid agate
Its also not canon, they basically retcon that his name used to be McCree
woven jewel
Basically
ornate gulch
need mercy pocket gm1
glacial zinc
Then Jesus isnt lore is he fanfiction?
Is Jesus a part of Overwatch?
No, so it’s fan fiction
golden oak
Actually he is since Jack is catholic
peak escarp
don't bring up irrelevant conversations from hours ago
spare fox
we just got Lifeweaver, and this new hero appears to be related to light, sun light specifically
I hope we're going to get more lore on how hard light tech works
grizzled stream
we just got Lifeweaver, and this new hero appears to be related to light, sun li...
I heard she's from peru?
spare fox
seems most likely based on the teasers
worthy rose
Hanzo and Cure EKO should be 1 character
golden oak
we just got Lifeweaver, and this new hero appears to be related to light, sun li...
Yeah but she’s like solar power or whatever so it’s different
I guess
golden oak
It’s kinda weird how LW is supposed to be the plant themed character but instead of him having actual plants they decided on hard light that is alive
spare fox
idk, maybe that's the way or one way people can control hard light - just speculation
golden oak
there is a concept art related to her for "solar threading ritual"
Ik, it’s not new tho
We saw that at like beginning of season 5
They teased her real fast
spare fox
ok.. I didn't say it was new though?
golden oak
Yes but I thought everyone knew about it by now
peak escarp
It’s kinda weird how LW is supposed to be the plant themed character but instead...
it's a lot more plausible to summon hard light plants instantly than it is to make real plants spontaneously grow around him
spare fox
I was just supporting my theory that light-related tech could be related to another type of light-related tech, or possibly the same thing going on even
golden oak
it's a lot more plausible to summon hard light plants instantly than it is to ma...
Maybe but they could find an excuse, you can actually make plants do a lot of stuff with just hormones
So you could say he invented some kind of mega hormones that are like 100 times stronger
Also there’s plenty of non canon abilities in game so I don’t see the problem
They could pull off real plants easily
spare fox
🤷 they already made it so idk. weaponized light makes more sense in a battlefield sense and a game sense, it goes with the aesthetic more than having plants. It's easier to explain an object "made of light" disappearing after the ability is used than to have a bunch of plants just lying around the battlefield
golden oak
So? Mei literally fights with ice
spare fox
that's fair
maybe they just wanted to explore more with Vishkar and hard light story-wise, since it already existed in lore
but I mean, I can't know for sure
just speculating
golden oak
Maybe they just didn’t feel like coming up with something entirely new
Tbh I could see Moira having some plant related powers, since she’s a geneticist
We know she worked with animals but plants maybe too
peak escarp
maybe they just wanted to explore more with Vishkar and hard light story-wise, s...
I think this is likely
spice reef
What year is ow placed again?
twilit patrol
We don’t know exactly
They said in 2016 ‘’60 years in the future’’
So we can suppose OW1 take place in 2076
spare fox
the only thing I remember with a specific date was the news article about the hurricane, meant to take place just prior to Storm Rising
twilit patrol
And OW2 is supposed to take place a year after the recall
twilit patrol
Honestly I can’t tell you I’m not a lore nerd
spare fox
tl;dr experimental engineering on ape specimens on the Lunar Colony; he's a super genius
worthy rose
not me
twilit patrol
worthy rose
winton overwatch mnkey space 🍌
rare trail
winston was a part of a group of gorillas which were being genetically engineered on horizon lunar colony to be more human thats why he can talk and stuff
rare trail
!!shitposting
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worthy rose
you are not intellectuals
you are weird
this channel is for lore only bro
take your alt account and go to #general-discussion
spare fox
stop pinging me with irrelevant questions just to shitpost
twilit patrol
There is a moderator to stop it ?
past copper
Thank you to whoever muted them. That’s permanent right?
brisk moon
What’s the difference between Overwatch, Blackwatch, and Talon
past copper
What’s the difference between Overwatch, Blackwatch, and Talon
Overwatch was the organization that changed the war and after were global heroes
Blackwatch was the secret special ops that handled the dirty work of the organization
Talon is a terrorist organization bent on starting a war by any means necessary
golden oak
Blackwatch was basically team outcasts kinda
worthy rose
OverWatch
agile marsh
Sigma has by far the highest potential due to being able to literally make a black hole, but lacks the non-crazy to get that strong.
As is, it’s either orisa or winston, as both have beaten Doomfist which is the highest bar that I know of (and I don’t know much) in OW
glacial zinc
Sigma has by far the highest potential due to being able to literally make a bla...
Has he ever made a black hole in lore?
west barn
Wouldn't a black hole like destroy everything,since I doubt he'd be able to stop it cus he's crazy
glacial zinc
Wouldn't a black hole like destroy everything,since I doubt he'd be able to stop...
He nerfs himself
worthy rose
Has he ever made a black hole in lore?
yea he did,thats how he got in the hospital
glacial zinc
yea he did,thats how he got in the hospital
I don’t think that’s how it works, he didn’t create it on a whim, he spent years or decades trying to figure it out
worthy rose
yea
glacial zinc
Then when they harnessed it’s power the seal failed and he was briefly exposed to it
worthy rose
ohh
glacial zinc
But I don’t think he has the power to make a black hole
worthy rose
yea sry
glacial zinc
Np
merry token
Symmetra is also in the top 5 🫡
spare fox
I don't think we know exactly what he did but the experiment he was doing on black holes went wrong
peak escarp
his experiment was attempting to harness the power of a black hole (hint: they can't be harnessed)
lunar meteor
adhabu ngumi
tepid sinew
his experiment was attempting to harness the power of a black hole (hint: they c...
nah he harnessed the harness 🙏 ong we up
rough token
So if he wants, he knows how to destroy the universe
The universe is a stretch i dont think he has the mental strength to use his abilities to that extent
lunar meteor
idk
jade tulip
I thought doomfist killed the og doomfist
merry token
He killed the second one
The title has been/is carried by:
Savior(Adhabu Ngumi)
Scourge(Akinjide Adeyemi)
Successor(Akande Ogundimu)
merry mason
I think not misch is known about the first
twilit patrol
And who
glacial zinc
Just read new blood
glacial zinc
It’s good
lavish vessel
I really like new blood, I bought the physical copy the other day
twilit patrol
Just read new blood
Ok bee
twilit patrol
Do omnics speak all language in the world ?
worthy rose
maybe
twilit patrol
I mean, an omnic is associated with an AI. An AI could speak all languages, not only one.
peak escarp
they can just download a translation app
twilit patrol
So they don't speak all languages naturally
worthy rose
yea
woven jewel
Oh so it's like 3-CPO
fresh rock
they can just download a translation app
Really? Wow!
peak escarp
learning anything for an omnic is as simple as downloading a database from the internet
fresh rock
That's actually really cool!
humble raptor
is there an in lore reason on why the 100 co-op pve missions were cancelled after being promised to us for 4 years?
glacial zinc
is there an in lore reason on why the 100 co-op pve missions were cancelled afte...
Overwatch decided not to do the missions
humble raptor
that makes sense
peak escarp
is there an in lore reason on why the 100 co-op pve missions were cancelled afte...
what 100 missions? they never gave us a number
humble raptor
what 100 missions? they never gave us a number
was just throwing in a number
if they did work on it for 4 years we probably would’ve had a lot
peak escarp
we're still getting PvE story missions, which is where most of the work went
peak escarp
the part that got cancelled was Hero Missions, which were randomized missions with no story to them, just objectives
humble raptor
and like 1-2 per season?
no skill trees per character?
or are we still getting skill trees
humble raptor
i thought skill trees were also going to be a thing until they like cancelled the pve
humble raptor
okay so is the pve going to be free for people who owned ow1?
idk i quit overwatch after the announcement 2 months ago
peak escarp
no
humble raptor
so we gotta pay for a watered down version of what we were promised
humble raptor
wishing i could send images lol
i’m going based off the news from 2 months ago
unless they changed what they said
cant wait to play the hero mission once every 6 months to see the story of doomfist eating at a restaurant and fighting 3 enemies on the way out
peak escarp
the news from 2 months ago was that the hero missions and skill trees were cancelled
the story missions will continue as planned
humble raptor
the skill trees were everything lol
peak escarp
no
humble raptor
they looked so cool
peak escarp
they did
but they were only part of the PvE experience
and they will get reused in events and limited time modes
things like Olympus
peak escarp
for you
humble raptor
if widow looks at her enemy they freeze in place omg
😻
need the Mcree bullet ricochet or the Mei snowball being used against more than 1 enemy player and actually used against ai
peak escarp
the bullet ricochet wasn't a talent
it was a feature of PvE modes
so it'll probably still be there
humble raptor
makes it easier for the coding ig
twilit patrol
olympus gamemode was 💤
I enjoyed it
humble raptor
indie company known as blizzard waiting 4 years to say what was advertised isn’t happening but instead we get to play as 4 heroes on a push map against robots
idk i’m just hating to hate
humble raptor
I enjoyed it
eh idk what was fun about it, i played it for about 15 minutes and got bored. went right back to quick play or ranked
twilit patrol
eh idk what was fun about it, i played it for about 15 minutes and got bored. we...
I understand. We couldn't play with friends because it was a deathmatch.
humble raptor
yea that too
humble raptor
playing overwatch 0.3 was tiring on its own
twilit patrol
peak escarp
then maybe you should invest your time in something you enjoy
instead of harping on a game you don't like
humble raptor
i wanted to enjoy overwatch, was just preparing for the promised modes. but now i gotta wait a season for 1-2 mission(s)
humble raptor
Idk what they were doing for 4 years :(
twilit patrol
Activision ruined everything
peak escarp
they were making PvE missions, new maps and heroes
humble raptor
overwatch 2 is just new maps and new heroes as of rn lol
peak escarp
the same thing we'd be getting without the 2
humble raptor
mhm
humble raptor
Activision ruined everything
real
twilit patrol
And honestly, I'm not expecting any miracles from Microsoft.
bleak shell
Idk what they were doing for 4 years :(
Creating and coding games doesn't just happen overnight. This type of development takes a while.
lavish vessel
It’ll definitely be worth the wait too, s6 is huge and this’ll start moving along the story of ow2
twilit patrol
Yes and we're close
mellow stratus
Activision ruined everything
True
past copper
Welp. Invasion around the corner
I’m pretty hyped for the story missions
But I’m very interested in the new maps. Especially New Junk City
Bc when you think about it, Junkertown and New Junk City will give us a real perspective to just how massive these Omniums are
Also, a funny line to give Junkrat for this map is “Ahhh! New Junk City! If you can’t make it here, you can’t make anywhere! Ahahah!”
golden oak
I’d rather see a new location tbh
past copper
Literally a new location. Do you see Junkertown anywhere on the map? No
golden oak
No but like, different country
past copper
There’s literally another country coming alongside New Junk City. Suravasa
These will both be the largest maps to date when you think about
lavish vessel
And we’re also getting gothenburg in the pve missions which could eventually become a pvp map
peak escarp
Junkertown is part of New Junk City
or the other way around
they're part of the same city
NJC is just like, the downtown part of Junkertown
past copper
I know this, but if you’re not on the same map, it’s two separate places. More or less
lavish vessel
I assume new junk city is like the capital of junker town
peak escarp
it's like the difference between Mahnattan and New York City
past copper
I mean, pretty sure it’s just like a random name they made up
lavish vessel
Ah yeah that makes sense
past copper
After they destroyed the factory, ruined the surrounding environment, and established a new home in the remains
Honestly, I’d imagine it’s either something more like Borderlands or Alita: Battle Angel
The differences between either Junkertown and NJC
I can’t deny this though. NJC kinda reminds me of the first alien planet from High On Life
lavish vessel
I can’t deny this though. NJC kinda reminds me of the first alien planet from Hi...
Ooo yeah old town, I see it
lavish vessel
After they destroyed the factory, ruined the surrounding environment, and establ...
I really like the lore behind it, I only found out recently
past copper
It makes you wonder if they’re making this big of a map for Junkertown
lavish vessel
omniums are the size of a small city
Yeah that’s insane to think about, I thought they were just like average factories before lol
past copper
Will that mean we could expect a story mission from it in the future
peak escarp
possibly
past copper
Hmm. That be cool. Null Sector attacks the Junkers and Overwatch have to work with them
I can just see JQ butting heads with someone on the team
peak escarp
Yeah that’s insane to think about, I thought they were just like average factori...
there's a good description of them in the Sojourn novel
spare fox
Wonder if there'll be any clues or allusions to that "treasure" that was allegedly from the omnium
It's got to be something that makes an omnium an omnium rather than just a robot factory, if that makes sense
peak escarp
could be something related to how Aurora gained sentience
spare fox
Oh man what if it's some kind of code and he had it memorized but he has the terrible memory
And it's a whole "P. Sherman" situation lol
lavish vessel
there's a good description of them in the Sojourn novel
Oh yeah that’s one I’m reading atm, I’ve only just gotten started tho so I’ll get to it 
past copper
These places are massive. I see why the Junkers took up residence
These factory’s could house an army for years
heavy marsh
spare fox
Where are the confirmed Omniums?
Outback (exploded)
Siberia
Detroit
Nigeria
Where else?
peak escarp
East China Sea
heavy marsh
Afghanistan
peak escarp
for the gwishin
stuck stump
has reinhardt been fighting all his life
sharp trench
has reinhardt been fighting all his life
since the omnic crisis I believe
worthy rose
do we know exactly how much of certain characters are still human? like how much of doom, genji, and sojourn are cybernetics
spare fox
I always kind of assumed that they were pretty much the same as any other human with prosthetic limbs
just the technology has gotten way better so the limbs can be more easily controlled
by thoughts? nervous system? muscular system?
past copper
do we know exactly how much of certain characters are still human? like how much...
They’re all human and I’d imagine that cyborg is an offensive slur to them
peak escarp
why would cyborg be a slur?
past copper
Because I’d imagine if people can be racist towards omnics, they very well could make it a slur to people with cybernetics
Sojourn is just an example of how people saw some people with cybernetics before the war, but that was probably little to what it could be now after the war
That’s not an impossible thing either. We’ve seen several cultures with different opinions towards omnics after the war. You can only wonder how people with cybernetics are viewed
peak escarp
It’s true, Chase can run faster and for longer than unaugmented humans, and she had little trouble adjusting to the higher altitudes at the mountain base.
“I could probably win a gold medal for sprinting,” Chase jokes, but then dismisses the thought. “Though I probably wouldn’t be allowed to compete in any games.”
Swiping away a notification on her data pad, Liao muses playfully, “I suppose it would depend on their cyborg policy. Some competitions do—”
But she senses her mistake immediately and says, “Oh—forgive me, I wasn’t thinking.”
Chase hates that word: cyborg. It brings back echoes of high school, the way the other students in her school shrank away from her or spoke about her in whispers. Some of them even tried to catch a glimpse of her cybernetic legs during gym class.```Sojourn used to hate the term cyborg, but by the end of the novel she seems to be okay with it
and Genji calls himself "cyborg ninja" in voice lines
past copper
True, but that’s to be expected because some people won’t let others put them down for something out of her control. Which is very inspirational
But sadly, that doesn’t mean there can’t be bigots towards cyborgs
worthy rose
by thoughts? nervous system? muscular system?
i meean like what parts of them are like cybernetic body wise? like i know doom has robotic legs and one of his arms (maybe 2 i dont know) are cybernetic
and he has visibile metal bolts in his lower abdomen
peak escarp
Sojourn: all 4 limbs, most organs, eyes, brain
Genji: both legs, one arm, maybe some organs?, maybe eyes?
Doomfist: right arm, implants in his head and left arm
past copper
I think at least 70% of Doomfist is cybernetic, Genji seems like 80%, and Sojourn looks like she borders 80-90%
worthy rose
Sojourn: all 4 limbs, most organs, eyes, brain
Genji: both legs, one arm, maybe ...
i thought his legs also were
doomfists
peak escarp
only his arm is specifically mentioned
worthy rose
oh
past copper
worthy rose
possibly
peak escarp
I'm just going off what has been explicity stated in bios or other lore
past copper
Pretty sure his legs are cybernetics. Those jumps he makes have to be more than just his arm
peak escarp
if Doomfist was missing other limbs, I would expect his bio to mention them
past copper
Maybe, but it really wouldn’t make sense to paint armor the color of his legs
peak escarp
🤷♀️
past copper
So it be more sensible to think they’re cybernetic
peak escarp
you can headcanon all you like
but until a dev confirms it, I will believe they are natural
past copper
I really doubt a dev would bother to mention the legs of a man named Doomfist
worthy rose
I really doubt a dev would bother to mention the legs of a man named Doomfist
eh if someone asked about it, or if they were o nthe topic of cybernetics/doomfist
past copper
Better quality imagine to get an idea
spare fox
they could be cybernetic or they could just be like armor or boots that can do what they do
past copper
If that’s armor, then his legs would have to be skinny as hell there’s no chance he’d have the ability to jump so high otherwise
spare fox
he skipped leg day
worthy rose
Better quality imagine to get an idea
also theres no way his legs are fitting in that small of a gap around his ankles
spare fox
and the armor augments
peak escarp
If that’s armor, then his legs would have to be skinny as hell there’s no chance...
these are natural legs
so that argument doesn't really hold
worthy rose
these are natural legs
DAMN i never looked at hanzos legs
spare fox
IDK I don't think that just because it's not mentioned in the bio it doesn't mean that they aren't cybernetic? they don't explicitely say which parts Genji is missing either? I'm on the fence on this one
past copper
Those are boots tho. They’re probably thin and light. They’d have to be for him to be stealthy
spare fox
iirc correctly, they don't mention Symm or LW's arms either
peak escarp
his OW2 design looks pretty armor-like to me
past copper
worthy rose
his cybernetics could have changed because when he was imprisoned didnt they remove them
past copper
Looks more to me like they thinned out his boots actually
worthy rose
fair i dont know how they would replace that
past copper
Tho, all around, seems Hanzo’s whole attire went from baggy to tight
worthy rose
Tho, all around, seems Hanzo’s whole attire went from baggy to tight
probably to make less sound as id imagine looser clothing would make more noise
past copper
Probably. Or it’s less restrictive on his reflexes or movement
Ninja is all about speed, stealth, and agility. Loose clothes could probably hinder this
Either that, or tighter clothing is more restrictive and thus a way to train his body to heighten his capabilities
vapid tusk
Or he just changed personal preferences
jaunty wedge
Who’s the least powerful hero lore wise?
peak escarp
Mei
jaunty wedge
Fuck mei ong
peak escarp
maybe Zenyatta
peak escarp
he can't really do much
jaunty wedge
He can heal using magic and can float with his Mastery of the iris
vapid tusk
Game wise and lore wise are different
Remember that
peak escarp
healing and floating aren't that powerful
vapid tusk
We never even see zen much in lore
peak escarp
Mercy can do both of those
vapid tusk
I love how you ask and refuse the answer lol
peak escarp
those orbs represent metal orbs that the Shambali use for meditation
jaunty wedge
Nowhere near the weakest
vapid tusk
Just bc you say that something isn’t true doesn’t make you correct
jaunty wedge
They aren’t correct tho
peak escarp
well he's still an omnic, so he's automatically physically stronger than all the human heroes
that puts him in the middle
jaunty wedge
Wait it might be Lucio
vapid tusk
I think being someone with the title “Lore Warlord” and literally being the head of this channel can speak for themselves
peak escarp
Lucio could be a contender
vapid tusk
Lucio has creativity and weapons though
vapid tusk
He made a weapon
vapid tusk
oh lol
dark lichen
(And they're not so happy about it).
vapid tusk
doom
jaunty wedge
Orisa?
dark lichen
Mhm, I agree with that.
jaunty wedge
Tracer controls Her own time
dark lichen
Orisa is literally a massive robot sentaur.
peak escarp
Orisa was built to counter Doomfist, and has defeated him at least once
peak escarp
Tracer controls Her own time
controlling her own time isn't that powerful
vapid tusk
Doom beat both tracer and Genji
peak escarp
it doesn't affect other people
jaunty wedge
That’s legitimately invincibility
midnight fulcrum
God imagine if zen was a villain
peak escarp
and she has a huge weakness attached to her chest
jaunty wedge
She just rewinds before death
vapid tusk
God imagine if zen was a villain
Wouldn’t be that scary lorewise
peak escarp
being invincible isn't the same as being powerful
jaunty wedge
I don’t see how she’s not top 5
dark lichen
Yeah, Doom is able to beat Tracer, all it takes is one good shot to destroy the chronal accelerator or whatever it's called.
peak escarp
that's why Reaper isn't on the list
vapid tusk
Is reaper immortal?
vapid tusk
He’s not omen from Valorant lol
dark lichen
Reaper is simply able to control the molecules that make up his body, so yes, he still has a physical form when he decides to, which is most the time.
peak escarp
the strongest hero with established powers is Winston - he's won every fight he's been part of and he has Main Character Plot Armor™️
Sigma and Symmetra are speculative, since we haven't seen the extent of their powers
you can put Lifeweaver and Kiriko on that list too
vapid tusk
the plot armor 😂
peak escarp
if it weren't for that plot armor, Reaper would have killed him twice
dark lichen
The implications of what Symmetra can do are insane, such as conjuring a skyscraper sized axe from nothing.
vapid tusk
You’re getting that idea from a sym JQ voiceline aren’t you
dark lichen
Where else?
peak escarp
the trouble with determining who is strongest is defining what you mean by "strongest"
vapid tusk
I’m obsessed with voice lines lol
peak escarp
because that answer will be different depending on the parameters
vapid tusk
Even if they’re not canonical
peak escarp
physically strongest? Winston, Orisa, Doom, Zarya
most likely to win in a fight? Winston, Reaper, Doom, Genji
most unkillable? Winston, Reaper, Tracer
vapid tusk
Who is smarter, Hammond or Winston?
dark lichen
I'd say Hammond.
peak escarp
Hammond
vapid tusk
Interesting
peak escarp
he designed the escape pod that Winston used to escape the moon
Winston just found the schematics in the computer and built it
vapid tusk
And then he got mad for being ditched didn’t he
peak escarp
yep
jaunty wedge
the strongest hero with established powers is Winston - he's won every fight he'...
Bro that’s just not true
Sigma litteraly controls gravity and black holes
dark lichen
We don't see Winston building modular and transforming mechs with nothing but scrap, Hammond would have no problem building a shield projector unlike Winston who has to go through many test trials.
vapid tusk
Sigma litteraly controls gravity and black holes
Never seen it lorewise
dark lichen
Yeah, but we don't see Sigma actually use his powers in any material.
vapid tusk
So we don’t know
jaunty wedge
It’s pretty obvious
vapid tusk
Through what
jaunty wedge
Through the basis of his backstory and character
He controls gravity and black holes
He harnessed the harness
dark lichen
We simply don't know to what extent he has control over gravity.
I'm sure we'll get answers soon.
jaunty wedge
Enough to be the most powerful it’s pretty safe to say
vapid tusk
Show me any source of Sigma canonically controlling gravity
vapid tusk
We don’t know yet
vapid tusk
Is what we’re saying
vapid tusk
Can Mei put herself in an ice block? No
jaunty wedge
Not the same thing
vapid tusk
Can mercy ressurect someone? No
jaunty wedge
Not the same thing
Those are singular abilities
Every single thing sigma does shows he controls gravity
peak escarp
we know he can control gravity
jaunty wedge
Yes
peak escarp
we don't know to what extent he can control gravity
dark lichen
Precisely.
jaunty wedge
How does that even make sense
peak escarp
like, could he turn up the gravity on someone and crush them into paste?
vapid tusk
Therefore we don’t know for sure
peak escarp
we've never seen him do it
jaunty wedge
For the love of god
peak escarp
he was locked up because weird gravity shit was happening around him that he wasn't able to control
jaunty wedge
He was locked up because he was dangerous enough to cause a threat to the world
peak escarp
Talon helped him learn to control it
dark lichen
He was locked up because he went crazy, along with his powers. But with people running around being able to control their own time and conjure fox spirits, I'm willing to bet it was mainly for the 'crazy' part he was locked up.
jaunty wedge
He was locked up because he went crazy, along with his powers. But with people r...
No way you actually believe that
vapid tusk
He was locked up because he was dangerous enough to cause a threat to the world
“Potentially” doesn’t prove anything
jaunty wedge
Im done trying to explain this to you
peak escarp
Upon returning to Earth, De Kuiper was quarantined in a secret government facility. Between his ravings about the patterns of the universe, the nonlinear nature of time, and the gravitic anomalies happening around him, he was deemed unsafe and detained for years under the name "Subject Sigma." Isolated and unable to control his powers, De Kuiper retreated into his own mind.
jaunty wedge
He was locked up because he went crazy, along with his powers. But with people r...
Why would they Lock up some random crazy guy in the most maximum security there is
dark lichen
Why would they Lock up some random crazy guy in the most maximum security there ...
I said with conjuncture of his powers as well. Both of them combined was what made them decide locking him up, but his mental state is what makes him dangerous, not the powers itself.
vapid tusk
If you’re going to ask around for information, and reject the answers that you receive, then why ask?
peak escarp
When Talon discovered De Kuiper's existence, they sent Reaper, Sombra, and ultimately, Widowmaker, to infiltrate the facility and break him out, planning to use his brilliance and research to further their plans. In their custody, De Kuiper slowly gained control of his powers. Now, gravity moved according to his will, and he was closer than ever to achieving his life's goal. But the same experiment that had opened his mind had also fractured it, and he struggled to keep the pieces together.
peak escarp
potentially
dark lichen
But again, to what extent? We've only seen implications of what he can do, but no actual event of him using these powers.
jaunty wedge
I’d also like to know how you think Winston is most powerful
peak escarp
because he beat Reaper twice and Doomfist once
vapid tusk
Honestly if you’re super intelligent you’d be able to figure out how to counter gravitational control lol
peak escarp
and he's the main character
jaunty wedge
because he beat Reaper twice and Doomfist once
You said it yourself reapers not that powerful
Also doomfist was a 3 on 1
Took a while too
vapid tusk
Not as powerful as others
peak escarp
Tracer and Genji did almost nothing in that fight
vapid tusk
He’s still very OP
peak escarp
they both got shut down quickly
jaunty wedge
Idk man
dark lichen
Big genetically enhanced monkey gorrilla that's smart, with armour and a jetpack. He has the strength and brains.
jaunty wedge
If you’re saying beating doom is a feat then wouldn’t doom be ahead Of Winston
peak escarp
why?
vapid tusk
Beat doom = better than doom
peak escarp
Doom lost to Winston
vapid tusk
Basic logic
jaunty wedge
Big genetically enhanced ~~monkey~~ gorrilla that's smart, with armour and a jet...
bUt YoUvE nEvEr SeEn HiM uSe IT
dark lichen
bUt YoUvE nEvEr SeEn HiM uSe IT
In almost every cinematic he's showed up in.
vapid tusk
Multiple times actually
jaunty wedge
Nah
jaunty wedge
I’m just going crazy at how seriously people take lore
vapid tusk
Because this is a LORE CHANNEL
jaunty wedge
It’s obvious sigma is most powerful
jaunty wedge
🤓
peak escarp
play nice, kids
vapid tusk
Yes mom
jaunty wedge
Ashulayy big monke most powerful cause he hit hard!
vapid tusk
And is super smart
jaunty wedge
Bro controls gravity and Black holes
I’m pretty sure strength don’t matter when You’re suspended In air
Also I wonder how the new Aztec support will be lore wise
Since they control the sun god
peak escarp
why are you complaining? I already put Sigma ahead of Winston on the list
jaunty wedge
Oh alr
vapid tusk
Bruh
peak escarp
also, Inca
vapid tusk
Lmfao
peak escarp
not Aztec
jaunty wedge
also, Inca
My b
peak escarp
and she doesn't control any god
peak escarp
we don't know what her ultimate is yet
vapid tusk
BTD6 reference?
vapid tusk
I’m excited honestly
jaunty wedge
I don’t think we need anymore Melee support
vapid tusk
Anyways back to lore
peak escarp
anyway, play nice, I'm off to bed - if anyone causes trouble, use modmail
vapid tusk
Gn Doctor
jaunty wedge
Bro keeps the streets of Overwatch discord clean
dark lichen
Good night 
jaunty wedge
Gn Rorschach
fresh rock
anyway, play nice, I'm off to bed - if anyone causes trouble, use modmail
Night Doc! 👋
vivid crow
Hi
twilit patrol
anyway, play nice, I'm off to bed - if anyone causes trouble, use modmail
Gn Doc 
ruby ridge
Sigma, Symmetra, Winston, Orisa, Doomfist
If Symettras that powerful wouldent lifeweaver be up there aswell or are you just going off confirmed lore
worthy rose
How does Sombra and Cassidy know each other?
glacial zinc
Is there any proof Sigma can create black holes?
pale scroll
is kinetic grasp considered a black hole?
peak escarp
no
woven jewel
But idk how Cassidy know her
Wasn't Sombra the one who gave Cassidy the key to Echo?
She probably gained something from Cassidy for it or at least a relationship with Overwatch
peak escarp
it's hinted at
golden temple
guys what is there in moira lore other than her being crazy geneticist scientist? Any relationships w other characters?(except for reaper incident)
hollow tinsel
I mean she was in Blackwatch, so technically, she was part of Overwatch, so she probably knows everyone in the og team. They probably haven't talked in forever, but they met atleast
spare fox
I can't think of any character that likes her lol
peak escarp
she's not really likeable
peak escarp
voice lines are hypothetical
they aren't actual conversations the heroes have had, but they represent ideas and opinions that they have
so Cassidy saying he doesn't like Moira is true
merry mason
Since they control the sun god
Where did you get this?
spare fox
we don't really know what the lore is yet
from the concept art we got, it looks more like harnessing the power of the sun or sunlight
woven jewel
The god of the sun in Incas culture is Inti btw
opaque scroll
woven jewel
There was an image saying "Solar Threading Ritual"
And if the Peruan/Incan design theory is true, the design could be inspired by Inti
empty plinth
Why is zen not evil
twilit patrol
Why not ?
woven jewel
Because Mondatta
But why is Mondatta not evil
They all have free will now
So some chose peace
ish
Some chose violence
ish
spare fox
I'm pretty sure the new hero's kit and lore will be more based on an allusion to the beliefs and culture rather than the religion or beliefs itself
woven jewel
Oh fs
vapid tusk
I can't think of any character that likes her lol
Moira likes moira
woven jewel
Does she
worthy rose
of course she does
golden oak
voice lines are hypothetical
He does say she looks great so that’s weird
worthy rose
What if aizen didn't exist?what if he was the bankai all along.
woven jewel
bleach
silver smelt
Has anyone else been questioning Null Sector and Talon alliance? Like we know from Ramattra's first introduction he was interested in forming an alliance with Talon but if we take a look at some of Ram's voicelines he doesn't seem too fond of Doom or Talon which leaves me with the question what happened after that event
like when ram specifically kills doom he says "your scheming ends now" or "weak, after all" there's also another line I'm not sure where it's from where he says "is this the best talon can do?"
spare fox
without knowing the answer I assume that they're both using each other and they have no real alliance to each other, they don't believe in each others' causes so
rare trail
why do you think doom doesnt believe in equal rights for omnics
spare fox
it's not that, it's that Doom wants war to see who will come out on top
rare trail
thats not why doom wants war
doom wants war for “evolution”
he thinks the only way to evolve is through conflict
spare fox
well yeah, survival of the fittest
sleek apex
but he also wants to be the top no matter what
worthy rose
yea
sleek apex
he thinks the strong should only survive
worthy rose
Also does Reaper hate Moira?
ivory ledge
No
ruby ridge
Has anyone else been questioning Null Sector and Talon alliance? Like we know fr...
Theh aren’t really
Allies in arms, more like temporary deal
When ram kills doom he says “your scheming ends now@
Which hints thag ram knows
Oh sorry
I didn’t read
rare trail
he thinks the strong should only survive
why do you think that
worthy rose
The reason I think so is one voice line says " no more expirments!" when killing Moira
ruby ridge
Also does Reaper hate Moira?
It’s a below mutual relationship
rare trail
there isnt much canon stuff about ram and dooms partnership
ruby ridge
Moira and reyes aren’t friends but they don’t hate each other, if talon ended tomorrow they woukdent be friends
rare trail
voicelines in game arent canon
ruby ridge
The reason I think so is one voice line says " no more expirments!" when killing...
But that’s his pain speaking since he’s in constant pain with his powers
worthy rose
oh ok
worthy rose
But that’s his pain speaking since he’s in constant pain with his powers
i feel badd
golden oak
I feel like Reyes would rather be dead than in current state
sleek apex
why do you think that
its his cinimatic that says something about i dont remeber off the top of my head
ruby ridge
There’s another voiceline where reaper asks moira if there’s a cure to this pain and she basically says “lmaooo use it as adrenaline against enemies”
rare trail
sometimes they imply canon but like those conversations didnt happen and might not reflect what the characters feel or know
ruby ridge
its his cinimatic that says something about i dont remeber off the top of my hea...
Yeah
Doomfist’s goal is to make humanity stronger through war
If you watched invincible it’s badicallt the viltrumites
Only the strongest of mind and body will survive
silver smelt
Allies in arms, more like temporary deal
yeah true, hope we'll get to figure out more in the PvE lol
ruby ridge
Not this batch of PVE, it’s based on overwatch
Next batches of PVE includes suravasa so we can probably guess more null sector background
Then we can speculate
About talon and others
silver smelt
unfortunately 😭 I find null sector n talon so much more interesting lmao
ruby ridge
Same
rare trail
i thought this batchc of pve was about null sector invading someplace
silver smelt
same but I guess since we're overwatch we get to experience it from their pov?
golden oak
Next batches of PVE includes suravasa so we can probably guess more null sector ...
No? Suravasa has nothing to do with it
It’s a map related to Aurora
spare fox
pretty sure we don't know anything about the "next wave" of PvE
golden oak
Pve missions will be in: Rio, Gothenburg, Toronto
Kings row (semi canon)
spare fox
other than it's not coming out for a few seasons after the first
rare trail
soj cinematic will be cool
spare fox
it's got a doggo so + already lol
golden oak
Idk she seems like the most bland character out of all
spare fox
I thought so too until I read her novel
she's not as much of a "character" as other heroes but she's strategic and caring, level-headed and all that
golden oak
Yeah but like most people don’t read novels
golden oak
she's not as much of a "character" as other heroes but she's strategic and carin...
That’s still kinda boring
spare fox
not every hero needs to be over the top so she balances others out
I can see why she's not a fav tho
golden oak
I read the novel we got for pride recently and gotta say the writing was kinda bad
golden oak
not every hero needs to be over the top so she balances others out
So you agree she’s basic
spare fox
yeah basic, not a bad thing but I kind of like her for it
she's had all these augmentations and whatnot yet she's very down to earth
golden oak
She’s just giving female soldier 76 but like a bit more chill
There’s just nothing special about her
golden oak
kinda feels like a more boring genji though
Yeah that’s the thing
We already have the cyborg character
rare trail
its kinda cool to have an ex overwatch agent whos anti overwatch
golden oak
its kinda cool to have an ex overwatch agent whos anti overwatch
Gabriel
Like, you can’t find anything special
Also can we talk about how that hair Color doesn’t fit her at all
golden oak
She’s like 50 something come on
rare trail
she could probably change her hair color if she wanted to but ig she doesnt
soldier is 50 something
golden oak
Ik but like I still think it’s a little too early for full gray hair
golden oak
rocket legs
Still related to the cyborg thing but also Pharah has literally rocket suit
Her being Canadian is also boring as hell
carmine dawn
oo i just heard the voice line interaction between hanzo and baptitise where hanzo says he’ll snap his bow with his final breath
would make a cool emote
glacial zinc
Her being Canadian is also boring as hell
How so
Any character can be any race or be from any country and still be cool
Though in Sojourns case she isn’t cool
peak escarp
better than having yet another white person as the Canadian rep
glacial zinc
better than having yet another white person as the Canadian rep
( ^ ^ ) b
Does human racism still exist in Overwatch?
Everyone seems to care more about Omnics
peak escarp
we haven't seen any examples of it
and I don't think Blizzard wants to get into that
upbeat basalt