#lore-discussion

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twilit patrol
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We're talking about the titans units in Genesis

past copper
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Again. The OC Titans were clearly only 60 meters. Null Sectors are clearly 30 meters

woven jewel
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Apparently a 2-story house is about 6 m

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10 house height vs 5 house heigh woah

limpid agate
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For an idea of meters, you can look at buildings

limpid agate
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An average 30 story apartment building is 100 meters tall

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So if you have any apartments or office buildings nearby with 30 stories, those are 100 meters

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If you dont have anything with that many floors nearby... Its probably taller than anything in your town

honest spear
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I need a workplace comedy about overwatch shitting the bed throughout the war only to get saved by Aurora in the last 10 minutes of the finale

glacial zinc
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True

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Actually mid war Aurora saved them

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Then Overwatch and the military won

peak escarp
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Overwatch were the only ones (besides Russia) able to make any progress against the omnics

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they shut down/cut off communications to several omniums

tepid lion
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So basiucally the iris is just an AI

peak escarp
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the Iris is an experience

golden oak
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So Aurora achieved transcendence not in shambali monastery but in some kind of laboratory?

peak escarp
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it was the moment of oneness when Aurora linked them all

tepid lion
golden oak
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Was it known before that they did it on purpose?

peak escarp
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yes

glacial zinc
golden oak
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At the end it seemed like she herself turned into a god AI

peak escarp
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she didn't turn into a god AI

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she gave her sentience to every omnic

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you could say that every omnic now has a piece of her

golden oak
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Most shocking for me was learning that she didn’t do it by herself like we thought but they used that thing

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Honestly now Moira’s voice line with Echo makes a lot more sense, seeing how important Aurora was in stopping the crisis

honest spear
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I liked the line about "we have to try a new strategy every time because Anubis constantly adapted to us." it explains why there are so many different weapon styles being used in the world

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& why each country needed a different method of defense

golden oak
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Honestly Anubis map would be sick (the god AI place shown in the short)

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I can see it being control map or flashpoint

rare trail
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i thought there was a 2cp anubis map

peak escarp
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there was

twilit patrol
golden oak
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That’s temple of Anubis, not related to god AI Anubis

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(Which we see in the animated short)

peak escarp
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it's literally the place where Anubis was imprisoned

golden oak
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Wait really

peak escarp
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yes

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you see the pyramid they were building at the end?

golden oak
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Yeah

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I thought they were just rebuilding Egypt after the war

peak escarp
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that's the pyramid you spawn in as a defender in that map

golden oak
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Alright, but the place we saw in short would be also cool to see in game

twilit patrol
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So I learned a thing

golden oak
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Why didn’t they destroy Anubis? They wanted to analyse it or something?

twilit patrol
golden oak
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Fnaf creator is homophobic

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Cringe

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I could say the same about you

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Overrated

rare trail
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i think were getting offtopic

golden oak
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They are

twilit patrol
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Stop folks that’s not funny

rare trail
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try to stay on topic

golden oak
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Nah they should just leave this chat

twilit patrol
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And Anubis had a important role

golden oak
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Yeah but No AI is still better than rogue AI

twilit patrol
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Yeah but Anubis has been quarantined

worthy rose
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good shit

golden oak
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Didn’t it break free?

twilit patrol
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No

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I think not

golden oak
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It did

peak escarp
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it did but Pharah's team stopped it

last tapir
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Who needs more lore the most rn

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Whos the most unknown about hero

vital ocean
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junk? maybe echo

last tapir
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Ngl maybe I'm biased but I'd love more moira lore

rare trail
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echo just got a lore bite

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moira would be cool though we kinda got her origin and nothing else

last tapir
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I would go feral for moira backstory

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Is she so intense due to past or

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I NEED TO KNOW!!!

candid bear
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Animal cruelty 🥲

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I feel like it would be similar to the GOTG4 villain

past copper
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Something to think about. Bastion received Aurora’s message even while being damaged

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That explains the change in light between red and blue when it encountered the fallen units from the war

honest spear
# last tapir Who needs more lore the most rn

Lucio- want more details on him beating Vishkar corp
Winston- just wanna know what life is like as a sentient nerdy gorilla.& Him betraying Hamston and stealing his rocket plans. We'll probably have to wait for the next Horizon survivor animal tho

tepid lion
peak escarp
tepid lion
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WTF

rare trail
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oh wow lucio has been in nothing

peak escarp
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the heroes with the least number of lore appearances are Hanzo, Lifeweaver, Lucio, Wrecking Ball and Zenyatta

tepid lion
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Yeah but Hanzos lore is pretty completet rn

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like its a deep dive

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With Zen we have basically nothing

peak escarp
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a deep dive?

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we have no idea what he's doing

shadow marsh
tepid lion
shadow marsh
tepid lion
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And that was a solid 50/50 on the omnics part

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Still bummed that the IRIS is just an AI to counter Anubis

sudden crystal
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Aurora and Anubis get characters

peak escarp
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the Iris isn't an AI

tepid lion
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So the iris is what aurora "went into" to enlighten other monics

peak escarp
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something like that

vital ocean
past copper
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Quite the historical moment in Overwatch

peak escarp
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Reyes doesn't look very happy about it

past copper
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Nah. He looked happy before this shot

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He’s the one to have introduced them em to the team after all

vital ocean
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honestly

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i think lore wise

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we are about to see Null Sector either partner up with doomfist and wreak havor

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or create their own country

peak escarp
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we already know that Null Sector is partnering with Talon

fiery echo
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Whaaaaa

vital ocean
peak escarp
vital ocean
peak escarp
fiery echo
shadow marsh
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Watching The Last Bastion hits different now

vital ocean
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headcanon: blackwatch resurfaces and teams up with talon/null

peak escarp
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Blackwatch was part of Overwatch

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they got shut down 8 years ago

vital ocean
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if overwatch came back

peak escarp
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they're the reason Overwatch fell apart

vital ocean
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shouldnt blackwatvch come back

peak escarp
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they're not going to make a new Blackwatch

past copper
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I recall some agents in Blackwatch joined Talon after the Overwatch HQ was destroyed

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Not sure if that’s still canon tho

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Given that from Train Hopper, I think it might be

wind wind
peak escarp
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yes, some Blackwatch members went to Talon

worthy rose
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Aurora's transcendence wasnt a zen ult

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I have been fooledswag

fresh rock
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That's not true.

stuck mist
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The genesis story explains so much about how the omnic crisis ended, it was kinda vague earlier but now it’s clear. So I assume the iris that ramattra and Zenyatta talk about is the collective essence/being of all omnics? And aurora helped make this?

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Could this be how they have their powers?

gilded fulcrum
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i cant believe genji used to have a foot fetish

twilit nacelleBOT
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Yes - definitely.

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It is decidedly so.

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Yes - definitely.

cloud prawn
cloud prawn
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nvm

limber veldt
last tapir
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@peak escarp bro has the KNOWLEDGE

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I've watched so many lore videos but it doesn't stick LOL

golden oak
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Why sojourn and soldier say tango

lavish vessel
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It’s slang for target/enemy supposedly, mostly used in the army I think

golden oak
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Weird

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This already came out?

lavish vessel
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I think it releases next year but I may be wrong

rare trail
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i thought october?

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looks like orisa rework is becoming canon

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i wonder if they'll make up or something

glacial zinc
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Also I wonder who Ana is fighting with

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She seems to be shouting at someone

rare trail
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i vaguely remember an ana jack story with an informant in like istanbul?

glacial zinc
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Fake informant I think

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It was a trap for reaper to attack soldier

rare trail
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confirmed the familiar face is kiri

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so the informant is sombra?

glacial zinc
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I think so

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I was remembering the comic

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What is Ashe’s story about

rare trail
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more hammond lore :D

glacial zinc
rare trail
rare trail
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so this story is gonna be from like 0-9 for ashe

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thats kinda confusing

glacial zinc
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Considering the drawing is present her

rare trail
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this does not look like 9 year old ashe

glacial zinc
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OMG BOB IN SUIT

rare trail
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this is what he would've looked like pre deadlock

lavish vessel
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I remember hearing somewhere it was 2024

rare trail
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oh wait nvm im wrong

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march 2024

glacial zinc
honest spear
rare trail
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in military terms tango means target or enemy

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its a part of the phonetic alphabet as well

icy stump
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I bet the junker story line is going to be the comedy one.

fiery echo
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I imagine it between action and comedy, sounds like fun

golden oak
zenith mango
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How much time has passed since the junker queen cinematic

rare trail
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15 years i thought?

zenith mango
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Also if howl threw out jqs family “13 years ago” and jq seemed to be no more than 8 years old

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Wouldn’t that mean she won the reckoning at no more than age 21

peak escarp
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she seemed more like 13-15 to me

fiery echo
peak escarp
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eh, it's hard to tell

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definitely preteen

fiery echo
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Ooooh, got it! Thought your mean when her was adult already

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I was like: whaaaaaa

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Wonder what happened to her brothers 😦

peak escarp
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some of them died

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she started with 5 siblings

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here she has 2

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maybe 3 if she's holding the baby

shadow marsh
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Damn, is she all by herself now in the present?

sly kettle
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just watched genesis part 3.. it was really good

fiery echo
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Just like Hanzo or Genji or Kiriko

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Idk

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Probably not

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But would be cool

shadow marsh
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"Forced to survive in the desolate wasteland, Odessa's family eventually began to die off, leaving her alone."

honest spear
honest spear
icy stump
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I was looking at the cover again and it looks like they’re in an ow ship. Wonder if it’s about them stealing one or some stupid shit

sly kettle
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I know there are multiple media outlets that have already but I mean in terms of the animated shorts and hero mission storytelling

ivory garnet
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story mission*

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hero missions are no longer with us

sly kettle
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yeah story missions lol

fiery echo
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Hope they talk more about Sigma and why Sombra is so good with him

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I don't need to sleep, I need answers!

golden oak
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Why Ramattra has hair? Other R-7000 models don’t have it

opaque tundra
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Omnic fashion I guess

slender olive
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does overwatch/anyone know that ramattra is leading null sector? like is his identity hidden?

hollow tinsel
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What is the population of Junkertown

slender olive
hollow tinsel
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Ok

barren lichen
glacial zinc
golden oak
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So he just got inches done in an omnic barber ok

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It kinda looks like those cables Sombra has in her hair as well

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Tracer’s omnic friend Iggy also has hair

vapid tusk
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does rein dislike all omnics

golden oak
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Is Bob sentient or servant omnic?

vapid tusk
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servant i think
i've never seen him do anything else except tend to Ashe

golden oak
golden oak
golden oak
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So he didn’t get awakened?

vapid tusk
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idrk im not an expert lol

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we need the one and only Lore Warlord Doctor_Six

fiery echo
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I think of him as a goofy friend that just chill will Ashe and Ashe have... kinda... take care of him?

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Something like Patrick and Sponge Bob? Maybe?

vapid tusk
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i wouldn't describe them as friends. B.O.B. served Ashe's family as a caretaker mainly because her own parents neglected her

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so more familial than friendly

fiery echo
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Oooh, I didn't know about that. So more like a Alfred and Batman relationship?

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Lol

vapid tusk
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yea basically

fiery echo
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Ooooh, that's cool!

golden oak
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He doesn’t seem sentient

worthy rose
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he sweats

fiery echo
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What you mean? :0

glacial zinc
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B.O.B is somewhat aware, he’s supposed to follow Ashe’s parents but he follows her instead

worthy rose
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In the mccree cinematic he sweats in the standoff

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Meaning he can feel nervous

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Making him somewhat sentient

kind dagger
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Arent all omnics sentient?

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Bcuz of aurora

lavish vessel
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I assume he’s sentient but just chooses to keep working as a butler since he’s been close to ashe her whole life, he did also mysteriously disappear during the crisis I think

kind dagger
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Thought he was with them during the crisis bcuz cassidy seems to know bob and wasnt cassidy in the deadlock gang during the omnic crisis

tepid lion
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Yeah he was

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he was partners with ashe so he would know bob

wind portal
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we know the gwishin aren't sentient, they're just highly adaptive

peak escarp
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BOB left the Ashe family when the crisis started, then returned when it was over

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he is sentient

lavish vessel
peak escarp
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we don't know

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the Ashe short story in the Heroes Ascendant collection will probably explain it

woven jewel
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This was what I was looking forward too, finally, BOB lore

wind portal
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Would Zarya be able to lift up BOB?

peak escarp
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no

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BOB weighs 2 tons

fiery echo
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That's huge!

peak escarp
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BOB is a big guy

fiery echo
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Indeed!

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Wait wait wait, what is heavier, BOB or Wreckin ball (with ot without hamster in)??

fresh rock
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Even with the hamster it wouldn't add too much

fiery echo
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True... fluffy hampte tho

brave shard
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question about a skin, is Widowmakers noire skin tied to her being brain washed? because i've noticed her hair on the noire skin is wires going into her head

peak escarp
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no

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Widowmaker isn't brainwashed

quasi nexus
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ball

peak escarp
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we don't know how heavy Wrecking Ball is

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probably close to the same

fiery echo
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Oooooh! Thanks a lot buddy! c:

rough dome
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Didn't Cass lead ashe on then leave her

peak escarp
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he flirted with her, but she rejected him

rough dome
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I thought so

copper crescent
peak escarp
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pretty much

flat pier
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auora can get it tbh

peak escarp
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her face is uncanny

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because Ana was reckless and headstrong?

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idk

lethal radish
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what happened to doom fist's arm?

rain shoal
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iirc he lost it in the omnic crisis

lethal radish
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you can still see it in the gauntlet tho or am i mistaken

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in the original skin

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its just really skinny compared to his other arm

lavish vessel
glacial zinc
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Decided to rewatch the reunion short

fresh rock
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How was it?

glacial zinc
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That pie tho

fresh rock
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Imo Reunion is one of the best shorts, it's overall just a fantastic watch and it gave us two heroes.

glacial zinc
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“Hey! Untie me Mcree!”

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“I’ll refuel B.O.B and have him rip off your other arm!”

fresh rock
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She seems to have notices the arm.

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Honor and Glory is my all time favorite. It overall felt like a movie.

glacial zinc
glacial zinc
twilit patrol
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Honor and Glory is the best

lavish vessel
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My faves alive, has two of my fave heroes and is set in kings row. All the others talked about are insanely good too

glacial zinc
lavish vessel
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Yep

final atlas
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DOOMFIST IS HAMMONDS FATHER

glacial zinc
final atlas
glacial zinc
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With the new lore it’s very possible that Sigma could have met Aurora (if he wasn’t already on the colony)

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Horizon Lunar Colony, I think Sigma was on it

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Which part?

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Numerous voice lines talk about him knowing Dr. Winston

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As well as remembering Winston (Monkey)

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But he was brought back to earth before the monkeys revolted

glacial zinc
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If Sigma kills a Winston he might say
“Like father like son”

fiery echo
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"Don't shoot the tank"

spare salmon
merry token
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Tbf he would probably still know about Dr Winston in-universe because of his reputation or because of the news about the lunar colony

fiery echo
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And also he didn't was in that station for his experiment of the black hole??

merry token
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I feel like either way he would know Dr. Winston

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Kind of like the toy guns voiceline between pharah and cassidy from ow1

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By then they wouldn’t have like, met again and had that interaction

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But the playing with toy guns part was still heavily implied to have happened

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So it’s kind of like, yeah, Winston and Sigma have not interacted in canon, but the implication of sigma having known Dr. Winston is still heavily implied

golden oak
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Baptiste has crush on Cassidy???

merry token
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He definitely finds him charming

zenith mango
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lil flirty

golden oak
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He was asking if Cass is single

merry token
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It’s kind of implied he’s interested, yeah

ivory garnet
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he wasnt on HLC during his experiment

fiery echo
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What is HLC? Also, thanks for the info, thought was the same station

ivory garnet
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Horizon Lunar Colony

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OW1 Map, where Winston grew up

fiery echo
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Oh gotcha! I didn't play OW1, I began to play like 2 or 3 weeks ago but I remember the cinematic tho

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Thanks again fella! :]

jaunty bridge
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So is it true tracer and sigma’s power are related somehow?

cunning ledge
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Not that we know of

jaunty bridge
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Ok then what do y’all know about black watch cause I’m lost

rare trail
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blackwatch is like the shady part of overwatch

merry token
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^^

rare trail
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they do more like secret stuff

merry token
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Formerly led by Gabriel Reyes(now Reaper)

rare trail
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when it got found out what they really were thats what got the petras act in place and overwatch shut down

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gerard was on there too i thought? and its like specifically anti talon

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i might be making that up though

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yeah i think im making that up nvm

peak escarp
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Gerard was anti-Talon

shadow marsh
jaunty bridge
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So basically black watch was a covert ops organization that resulted in Overwatch getting shut down

peak escarp
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yes

glacial zinc
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What is the Petra’s Act?

rare trail
glacial zinc
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( ^ ^ ) b

rare trail
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrOQs_8litU sojourn's origin is her testifying against overwatch iirc

Introducing Sojourn.

A fierce former Captain of Overwatch equipped with cybernetic abilities.

Coming to #Overwatch2 on October 4.

Begin your watch: http://buyoverwatch.com
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▶ Play video
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this helped get the petras act passed

glacial zinc
rare trail
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Vivian spoke truthfully about her experiences, and her testimony proved pivotal in passing the Petras Act and ending Overwatch.

rare trail
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it "lost its way"

rare trail
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its probably covered in her book

glacial zinc
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Actually it isn’t

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I read the Sojourn book

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Did she join the recall?

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It shows her with Tracer and Winston and Genji (Genji in his green and silver suit)

peak escarp
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we will see her response to the recall in the short that comes out on August 4

rare trail
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when did genji get the green and silver suit?

glacial zinc
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Am I allowed to send photos?

rare trail
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yeah

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because blackwatch genji had a diff suit and he had that suit like right before overwatch fell

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maybe while he was wandering and met zenyatta?

peak escarp
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Genji had his finished/current body before the fall of Overwatch

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he had it on the Storm Rising mission

rare trail
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so why is it different for blackwatch?

peak escarp
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because it's incomplete

rare trail
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but during retribution it was incomplete and wasnt that like right before the fall of overwatch?

peak escarp
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Retribution was before Storm Rising

rare trail
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so there was a pretty long time between petras act and retribution?

glacial zinc
peak escarp
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Retribution was 8 years ago
the Petras Act was 5 years ago

glacial zinc
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This looks like new Overwatch

peak escarp
glacial zinc
peak escarp
glacial zinc
peak escarp
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yes

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Storm Rising was the year before Overwatch was shut down

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that mission led to Doomfist's arrest

rare trail
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im kinda confused how hanzo didnt know genji was alive

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like wasnt overwatch on the news?

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would he not have put it together that the guy with the green spirit dragon was genji?

peak escarp
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these two do not look like the same person

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and I doubt his dragons were seen on the news

glacial zinc
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Genjis entire demeanour changed, he’s pretty much a different person

rare trail
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i also think its kinda weird how hanzo just thought he was like a random assassin like wouldnt he have seen genji?

peak escarp
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idk maybe Hanzo doesn't watch the news

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Genji hasn't been seen by the public in at least 5 years, so it's likely he forgot

rare trail
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when does dragons take place?

peak escarp
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after recall

glacial zinc
zenith mango
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“You are not the first assassin sent to kill me, and you will not be the last”

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Also what was retribution

peak escarp
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the best Archives mission, hands down

ivory garnet
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without a doubt lol

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gamemodes where you play as a Spec-Ops team in any game are very fun

zenith mango
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I’m lazy just give me the 2 sentence version of the lore stuff

ivory garnet
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Robot Good, Robot bad, Robot Gain Sentience, Robot good again

errant ferry
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I started playing overwatch in ow 2

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Ow 2 looks like funny CoD LoL

peak escarp
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doesn't look any different to me

ivory garnet
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looks like the same game to me lol

errant ferry
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At least it had cool cinematics

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Fornite even vibes

past copper
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Just a thought, but you think Kiriko might resent Overwatch for bringing down the Shimada Clan?

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After all, they were the ones who kept other gangs like the Hashimoto under wraps before they were brought down

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So if it wasn’t for Overwatch, the Hashimoto would’ve have seized power and wouldn’t have taken her father

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So it makes you wonder if Kiriko would blame Overwatch for the Hashimoto extorting the people of Kanezaka

ivory garnet
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Shimada essentially fell with the “death” of Genji and Hanzo leaving

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Overwatch just went there to clean up the illegal part of it

desert yacht
peak escarp
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old seasonal mission

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might come back, might not

fresh rock
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Who was in charge of Talon during Retribution?

glacial zinc
rare trail
fresh rock
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No, I meant Talon, not who was in charge of the MISSION against Talon.

rare trail
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doom i think?

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he wouldnt have been in jail yet

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aurora is the iris?

glacial zinc
lyric basin
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if u need the best healers in the world DM me

rare trail
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!!lfg

twilit nacelleBOT
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tepid lion
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Does Ramatra have like 2 Perosnalitys/Omnics in him

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Since he says WE are unstoppable when he gets nanod

lavish vessel
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I think he just means his team, as in his team is unstoppable

peak escarp
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yeah he's just speaking for the team

golden oak
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Volskaya industries makes those big mechs right?

peak escarp
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the svyatogor, yes

minor sigil
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How big poops does rein do

ivory garnet
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weird question, but probably regular sized since he is a regular sized human

minor sigil
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How big poops does hog do

oak lance
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hugemongus

peak escarp
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wtf

twilit patrol
past copper
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This guy just shitposting. Pack em up

zenith musk
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how does doomfist beat

merry token
elfin cedar
hollow tinsel
past copper
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Yes. Please stop

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If you got nothing lore related to ask or say, there’s several places you can go

vapid tusk
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aren't we able to tag mods in these situations

worthy rose
vapid tusk
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can kiriko canonically teleport? or is she just really fast

peak escarp
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she can teleport

past copper
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So, it’s just a thought, but maybe we’re seeing a new look for Brig

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But only a temporary one

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Bc that looks like either training gear or something

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Would be a nice touch. Showing that not only does the surrounding environment have life to it

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But so to does the characters

gentle steppe
#

Gabe and jack should stop their little argument and just kiss alr tbf

#

We all want it so blizz should just give us what we want 💀💀

worthy rose
#

ok

#

anyway

worthy rose
#

prob just going to be like the ow1 pve events

past copper
#

Ok. Go take your cry about PvE to the place for it

peak escarp
#

if you go in expecting to be disappointed, you will be

fiery echo
#

I know it might be out of lore-discussion but that PVE will be free or is the one we have to pay??

peak escarp
#

it is paid

worthy rose
#

Believe they said it's $15

peak escarp
#

there will be PvE events that will be free, but the story missions will be paid

fiery echo
#

Gotcha! Thanks a lot!

fresh rock
ivory garnet
#

mhm

peak escarp
#

season 6 will have a semi-canon PvE mission in King's Row

ivory garnet
#

its the 2nd part of KR right

#

the left side

peak escarp
#

yes

fresh rock
peak escarp
#

the mission involves rescuing Iggy, an omnic Tracer made friends with in the London Calling comic

#

but the mission itself isn't one that canonically happened

#

so it's a hypothetical mission

#

I think

#

we don't know the full details yet

fresh rock
#

Oh! Okay! Sounds like fun, we'll just have to see!

past copper
#

That would be cool to see Iggy in the game instead of the comic

#

I personally liked her. She’s an interesting character from a more or less unnecessary 5 volume comic

blazing talon
#

in a ramattra devlog the devs said we would get more lore about ramattra in the pve so i hope that hasnt been scrapped

white frigate
#

Believe it or not In the lore winton was a monkey like me

bleak shell
#

!!Loreonly

white frigate
#

It is lore tho winton was a monkey

bleak shell
#

"Winton was a monkey like me" isn't lore, that's shitposting. This is a serious discussion channel of Overwatch lore. Fan fiction is not canon and should not be discussed here. Please discuss this elsewhere but not here.

worthy rose
sly kettle
golden oak
golden oak
#

Ohh

golden oak
#

In battle pass or separate?

#

Oh..

keen summit
keen summit
#

so basically bp + pve + legendary skin for 15

golden oak
#

They just said pve wont be in bp

#

Also bp has character unlocks

keen summit
#

i know

#

but

#

read

keen summit
#

you can basically most logically buy bp with 1000

golden oak
#

I meant if story missions will be included in the battle pass

#

I guess not tho

keen summit
#

nope

fiery echo
#

Ooooh, where is this blog? In their website or in battlenet menú? I'm kinda new so I still figuring out all lol

#

Thank youuuu!

fiery echo
#

Do we know anything about Lifeweaver's arm??

lyric basin
#

if u need the best healers in the world DM me

hollow tinsel
rare trail
#

symmetra's arm is also a prosthetic

quiet ridge
#

Is there any deep deep lore when it comes to Orisa? (She's my favorite tank OrisaLove)

weary raptor
#

how is doomfists stupid mohawk skin apart of the lore

peak escarp
weary raptor
#

they both have stories

#

the robot mohawk one

rare trail
#

?

weary raptor
#

forgot the name

peak escarp
#

it's not canon

weary raptor
#

why would they even put it in then

peak escarp
#

to look cool?

#

like 90% of the skins in the game aren't canon

weary raptor
#

no the story not the skin

peak escarp
#

it's flavor text

weary raptor
#

like every canon skin has one

#

i think

peak escarp
#

not all

#

and some non-canon skins have them

#

like this one

#

this skin is a reference to an X-men character

weary raptor
#

is it not of a game

pine gazelle
#

(I know this is off topic) but who is the strongest in the ow2 lore?

weary raptor
#

i’m just gonna guess and say sigma

rare trail
#

sigma winston sym and orisa are the top four

#

we dont really know who the strongest is

pine gazelle
#

Rly??

#

I thought the shimadas or doom

#

Or maybe zen

peak escarp
#

Winston and Orisa have both beaten Doom in a fight

#

ZEN?!

golden oak
peak escarp
#

Zenyatta is just an ordinary omnic

golden oak
#

Zen is literally just a monk

pine gazelle
#

Who knows 2 or more of the 8 paths (or something like that harmony and discord)

#

I'm going to google

golden oak
#

Discord and harmony orb aren’t canon

#

He’s got no powers in lore (at least not that we know of)

rare trail
#

he can maybe in lore float

pine gazelle
#

So ok according to Google sig is number 1 which I personally don't disagree on but who 2nd?

rare trail
#

sig isnt number 1

#

top 4

golden oak
#

Depends on what “strongest” is such a vague term

rare trail
#

out of sym sigma winston and orisa we dont know who is the strongest

#

based on things we've seen in lore its winston and orisa

glacial zinc
rare trail
#

we dont know

glacial zinc
#

Then all he has is a broken mind and gravity powers

#

Not THAT strong

rare trail
#

we dont know how strong he is

glacial zinc
#

Then how are people saying he’s number 1?

peak escarp
#

gravity powers are pretty strong

rare trail
#

people say doom is #1 too

peak escarp
#

you can stop anyone from moving just by increasing the gravity on them

young lily
#

Could hanzo join talon

golden oak
#

Maybe because if he can increase gravity enough, it would crush you

glacial zinc
#

All we see is that he can float rocks in his origin

golden oak
glacial zinc
golden oak
#

He said he harnessed the harness

peak escarp
#

that's why Sigma's power ranking is speculative

#

because we don't know what he's capable of

#

same with Symmetra/Lifeweaver

golden oak
#

I hope we get more sigma lore

golden oak
rare trail
#

isnt sym especially good at manipulating hardlight?

peak escarp
#

she is

young lily
#

Was genji resurrected without agreeing to it

golden oak
#

Yes but biolight has even more potential since it’s alive

golden oak
rare trail
#

genji wasnt resurrected because he didnt die

bleak shell
#

Genji was saved by Mercy

golden oak
golden oak
young lily
peak escarp
#

Genji was given a cyborg body by Overwatch in exchange for his help taking down the Shimada crime family

golden oak
#

Pretty sure he didn’t want to be disabled

jovial orbit
#

Do you guys think Doomfist lost that fight against Winston intentionally?
Personally I do because we see him dodge Winston's lightning gun with quite an ease

rare trail
#

winston wasnt using his lightning gun when he beat him

jovial orbit
#

Yes he used an even slower attack, that is why I am asking...

rare trail
#

why would doom want to get captured

jovial orbit
rare trail
#

doom doesnt need publicity

jovial orbit
#

Why not?

rare trail
#

because being in jail is bad???

#

also doom didnt organize the fight he was ambushed

#

also doom had a ton of time to dodge the shot

#

from winston

#

primal rage winston is way stronger than reg winston too

glacial zinc
peak escarp
#

he escaped easily because Talon has moles in Helix Security

#

ones that gave him intel and allowed him to give orders from prison

glacial zinc
#

Just watched Wastelander

fresh rock
#

How was it?

glacial zinc
#

My respect for JQ skyrocketed

#

My new favourite cinematic

#

Awesome music and animation

fiery echo
#

My reason to main JQ :]

glacial zinc
#

Her breaking the fourth wall was a pleasant surprise

#

And the fact that she struggled with the fight and won with mercy was epic

fiery echo
#

Oh wait, whaaat?? Where was Mercy

#

Didn't notice

twilit patrol
#

JQ is sexy

#

I love her

rare trail
fiery echo
#

Aaaaaah, lmao my bad

#

Thank you haha

#

Yeah, I really love it that. Like the kind of person or partner that won't betray you

#

Btw, about the new support is coming, who you think will be related with??

glacial zinc
#

Junkrats voice actor has so much fun with the character

bleak shell
peak escarp
#

I dont think she will be related to any existing heroes

#

and it's hinted that she's from Peru

bleak shell
fiery echo
#

Awww, will be cool if she know Lucio somehow but we don't know what they are preparing for her (I think is a woman, right?)

peak escarp
#

yes

glacial zinc
#

Have we seen anyone who looks like her in the lore?

peak escarp
#

the silhouette they showed appeared to be female

#

she's not a known character

glacial zinc
#

It looks like she has cybernetic implants in her legs

peak escarp
#

possibly

#

they're pretty common

golden oak
#

Still no character from the collective, unless she is

glacial zinc
#

It also looks like she’s jumping pretty high

#

So it’s possible she has Sojourn level legs

#

If not even greater quality

peak escarp
#

he's in hiding on the Atlantic Arcology, which is run by the Collective

fiery echo
#

I think... she have an ability to blind everyone lol

peak escarp
#

that would suck to play against

fiery echo
#

Indeed! Specially if is bugged (in other game I used to play happened that and your screen just stayed white the whole match)

golden oak
fresh rock
glacial zinc
fresh rock
#

Don't give up hope just yet.

ivory garnet
#

they’re entirely new, ofc they’ll barely have lore

golden oak
peak escarp
blazing talon
quiet ridge
#

Ok ok

#

This small child is efi right?

blazing talon
#

ye

quiet ridge
#

Ok

blazing talon
#

i think there were like 10+ orisa bots

quiet ridge
#

So is efi still alive

blazing talon
#

not named orisa obvi

#

ye im pretty sure efi is still alive

quiet ridge
blazing talon
#

efi found it destroyed

#

and uprgaded/rebuilt it

#

and gave it a heart

quiet ridge
#

So she never built more?

blazing talon
#

i dont believe so

#

i dont even know how orisa is alive

#

making omnics is not possible by humans(as far as i know)

quiet ridge
#

The robot gains a soul /j

#

Wait

blazing talon
#

only aurora was able to do that

rare trail
#

humans literally made omnics??

#

thats where omnics came from

quiet ridge
#

How does Mercy's revive work?

rare trail
#

like?

quiet ridge
#

Is it like

rare trail
#

not canon

blazing talon
quiet ridge
#

The soul of the dead?

blazing talon
#

they never had a choice

rare trail
#

revive isnt canon

blazing talon
#

oh alr

rare trail
blazing talon
#

ye but orisa is sentient

#

and efi made her

#

which is strange

#

cuz all the other orisa-bots werent sentient

quiet ridge
blazing talon
#

she was "born"

#

kinda like aurora

#

efi might just be an actual genius

rare trail
#

her origin just says "gave her a heart"

#

its probably in hero of numbani

quiet ridge
#

Is bastion sentient too?

blazing talon
#

isnt give a heart mean its sentient? or is orisa using a weak ai thing

#

like hammonds mech

blazing talon
#

all the omnics made before auroras awakening are sentient

quiet ridge
#

Basically all playable robots

#

What is life steal implied in lore?

rare trail
#

life steal?

peak escarp
#

she used it on Mei

blazing talon
#

mei died in zero hour?

#

i thought mercy just healed her

rare trail
#

its not a revive as much as it is like a burst heal

fiery echo
#

Something like "Meet the Medic" of TF2??

rare trail
#

what?

peak escarp
#

"resurrect" doesn't revive the dead

#

it's a burst heal for people who are badly injured

blazing talon
#

I feel like zen has very little lore behind him, all ik is that him and ramattra were best friends and taught under mondatta, he taught genji, and that genji could never hit him in their training

#

Even in voicelines he doesn't say what his profession before the omnics crisis was

peak escarp
#

that's because he's only 20

#

the omnic crisis was 30 years ago

#

he didn't exist before the crisis

blazing talon
#

Oh- wait then how is he alive? Is he like orisa where he has an ai comparable to what aurora did for all the omnics?

rare trail
#

wdym

blazing talon
#

Omnics can be built but aurora gave them all sentience

rare trail
#

yeah?

blazing talon
#

Zen came after aurora yes?

rare trail
#

no

blazing talon
#

... wut

rare trail
#

why do you think he came after aurora trasncended

blazing talon
#

He is 20 right?

#

And the omnics crisis was 30 years ago

#

Aurora was what lead to the humans slowly winning(due to a lot of omnics choosing peace)

#

If zen was made afterwards, he wouldn't have gained sentience from aurora

#

But he lives

#

That's the same with orisa

rare trail
#

it ended later

blazing talon
#

Oh alr

#

Mb I'm a bit new to the lore

#

I'm trying my best, thnx for helping me understand

peak escarp
#

we don't have an explanation for the discrepancy

rare trail
#

i thought the crisis just lasted 10 years

#

or longer

twilit patrol
#

I don't get it

#

The war lasted 10 years ?

rare trail
#

ig so?

#

even longer right?

#

wait im confused did zen not have a job before the war?

#

well there was no before the war for him right?

ivory garnet
#

he gives mixed answers, not even Genji or Ram know

peak escarp
#

we dont know how long the crisis lasted

rare trail
#

it has to be like 11 years at least right?

peak escarp
#

the White Dome mission 23 years ago was a group of "last holdouts"

#

so I think it would be ending by then

#

my guess is 5-7 years

ivory garnet
#

same

#

I figured it didnt last that long in reality

rare trail
#

so if zen is 20 then how is he sentient?

#

because i would assume the last holdouts would've been post aurora's transcendance but like then how would zen be sentient

#

maybe hes isnt 20?

#

maybe its just a retcon

#

an older version says "a group of outcast omnic robots experienced what they described as a spiritual awakening."

#

, a group of outcast omnic robots, known as the Shambali monks, abandoned their preprogrammed lives to establish a communal monastery deep in the Himalayas.

peak escarp
#

we don't know

rare trail
#

why do we think he is 20?

peak escarp
#

maybe he only counts his age from when he had his spiritual awakening

rare trail
#

thats possible

#

ram doesnt seem to count his that way though

#

still possible though

#

maybe they retconned his age?

#

wiki says that its twenty but the source is from the old bio which has the awakening happen after the crisis

peak escarp
peak escarp
#

this is the first time we've been given a timeline

rare trail
#

"Years ago, following the Omnic Crisis, a group of outcast omnic robots experienced what they described as a spiritual awakening." i thought this was aurora

peak escarp
#

no, that's the formation of the Shambali

rare trail
#

so the spiritual awakening isnt aurora?

peak escarp
#

no

#

that's a different Awakening

rare trail
#

who built zenyatta?

peak escarp
#

we don't know

ivory garnet
#

an Omnium lol

twilit patrol
#

Obviously

opaque tundra
#

They removed every age so I think the best answer to the zen’s mystery age is simply everyone’s ages were retconned and the timeline is being adjusted

peak escarp
#

I don't like assuming things are retconned without proof

#

I don't see why any ages need to be retconned

#

maybe updated for OW2, but not retconned

blazing talon
#

Is info about the horizon lunar colony still just "the gorillas took over and that's it"

#

And Hammond n Winston left

#

While the real Dr Winston was killed

#

Do we know anything beyond this?

#

Like if the colony has been progressing?

somber fractal
glacial zinc
#

She had to learn

hidden raft
#

Where was the omnium in australia? Ppl keep saying it was in the outback but wouldnt it be in like canberra, sydney, or melbourne?

peak escarp
#

it was in the outback

#

because Junkertown is built inside its burnt out shell

#

omniums are the size of cities themselves, so they can't really be built in major cities

young lily
#

Do you think we could get a mondotta skin for zen

peak escarp
#

no

past copper
hidden raft
#

Maybe a cosplay?

#

Lol

past copper
#

Considering Mondatta was a person and is now dead, I’m pretty sure cosplaying as him would disrespectful

nimble falcon
#

Who is also dead

past copper
golden oak
#

Is Ashe albino?

#

Since that would explain white hair, red eyes and wearing hats

sly kettle
#

its in the 3rd comic

#

i think

fiery echo
#

Is there a comic? Is it free to read online?

vital ocean
#

mei lore needs expansion

#

why is she so cold blooded

rare trail
#

wdym

#

mei is pretty nice

bleak shell
#

Mei players does not equal to Mei being cold-blooded. Mei is quite nice.

glacial zinc
#

They will basically look the same

zenith mango
glacial zinc
#

I haven’t watched Honor and Glory in a while, is Balderich’s decomposed corpse just sitting in the armor

zenith mango
#

Yup

dire zenith
#

Bastion is not human, you know that?

rare trail
#

yes?

dire zenith
#

i 90% sure

peak escarp
#

Bastion is an omnic

rare trail
#

how long is inbetween bastion cinematic and binary?

peak escarp
#

about 15 years

rare trail
#

so bastion was just wandering around for 15 years?

peak escarp
#

yep

#

there's a lot of wilderness in Europe

glacial zinc
#

Like Bigfoot

#

“Number Three, Wilderness Bastion”
This omnic was doing a nature hike and he saw a large looking figure, if you zoom in it looks like a Bastion unit 😱 😱 😱”

golden oak
#

Bastion story is weird man

glacial zinc
#

“Time for the premier of our new tv show ‘Finding Bastion’, a group of humans and omnics try and find the elusive legend of the wilderness bastion”

serene meteor
#

bastion was in germany right when he was found

peak escarp
#

he woke up in Germany

#

Torbjorn found him in Sweden

serene meteor
#

ohhh ty

viscid flame
lost moss
#

.

past copper
#

Wonder how long until Mei shares with Overwatch that she may know the location where Null Sector came from

#

It’s pretty clear that Null Sector is responsible for the anomalies in Antarctica

golden oak
#

She knows?

peak escarp
#

she was studying the anomaly in Antarctica

#

it's implied to be the omnium that Ramattra is using to start his war

past copper
#

Makes you wonder how long until she puts two n two together

#

Question is though, would they have enough firepower to attack?

#

After all, that is the Prime Omnium. Ramattra wouldn’t leave it vulnerable to attack

jaunty bridge
#

Did bob take Cassidy’s arm?

merry token
#

No

jaunty bridge
#

How did he lose it

merry token
#

We don’t know

jaunty bridge
#

I point fingers at wrecking ball

golden oak
#

They never met

peak escarp
#

why would Wrecking Ball have anything to do with it?

vapid tusk
#

wrong channel fam

past copper
#

Like 3 weeks and we’ll have Invasion. Hyped

wraith cloak
#

Is Kiriko actually part of Overwatch? She has a voice line where she says “look mom, I’m an Overwatch agent”

peak escarp
#

no

#

she is just joking

wraith cloak
golden oak
#

They should make a short story where Junkrat infiltrates Helix Securities and steals one of their raptora armors
He deserves one

mellow stratus
#

It isn't canon with the lore

#

But it's not impossible that she's part of Overwatch to help stop the crisis

glacial zinc
spare fox
#

on the one hand, a few years ago I would have expected the roster of heroes to also include a bunch of "free agents" who aren't part of OW or Talon and I would say that Kiriko would be one of those

#

however I did include D.Va and Pharah within those "free agent" theory and now they're part of Overwatch so 🤷

#

I think down the line they'll at least team up with OW and possibly join up. We'll see how Heroes Ascendant stories go I suppose.

golden oak
#

I mean a lot of heroes are still not affiliated with talon or overwatch

peak escarp
#

Junker Queen, Junkrat, Kiriko, Lifeweaver, Roadhog, Symmetra, Wrecking Ball and Zenyatta all have no affiliation with either Overwatch or Talon

glacial zinc
#

Theory that sucks!
Aurora became the iris, so could that mean a tiny part of her could survive in a computer, and just gain knowledge

#

Could the eye that doxxed sombra be Aurora?

peak escarp
#

not likely

glacial zinc
peak escarp
#

what what is?

glacial zinc
#

The eye that scared Sombra into deleting her identity

peak escarp
#

nope

rare trail
#

aurora became the iris?

#

i thought she ascended to the iris

#

isnt the iris like a state of being

glacial zinc
rare trail
#

wdym

fiery echo
#

Damn, now I doubt all

rare trail
#

i thought it was like nirvana or smth

fiery echo
#

That have sense for me

glacial zinc
peak escarp
#

the Iris is the moment of oneness they experienced when Aurora linked everyone and gave them sentience

mental gale
peak escarp
#

yes

#

Dr. Mina Liao

#

she also made Athena

mental gale
#

Who’s athena?

#

I don’t really keep up with lore unless it’s widows, but it interests me

peak escarp
#

the AI that runs Watchpoint Gibraltar

#

also the announcer for the game

mental gale
#

WAIT ATHENA

#

YEAH

#

The announcer :33

#

She’s so pookie

glacial zinc
#

Is Junkerqueen Song canon?

spare fox
#

I wonder if they played with "unreliable narrator" for Junkerqueen's cinematic, tbh

#

not that it's all a lie or anything but it might have a stretched truth about it

peak escarp
#

it's heavily exaggerated

spare fox
#

exactly

#

from what I interpret about it, the canon parts are

  • Her family was kicked out of JT by Howl (the whole bad dream sequence)
  • Howl is a scumbag ruler, and cheats at his own game
  • She defeated Howl and kicked him out, now she's Queen
#

I know in-game banter is not canon, however her in-game character as a whole is quite different from how she was in her cinematic

#

She doesn't come across as noble, imo

glacial zinc
#

Power changes people

tame garden
#

Why didn't ow get a barbie collab

#

Could've brought blizzard out the trenches

rare trail
#

this isnt really a topic for lore

worthy rose
#

can someone tell me the lore?

tame garden
#

Overwatch is the world's last hope

#

And that's it

twilit patrol
spare fox
#

and they all like pineapple on pizza

worthy rose
past copper
worthy rose
past copper
#

The lore is this in a nutshell

#

The world was peaceful around 30 years ago until omnics starting attacking humanity after a god program, Anubis, took control of them

This began the global war that would become known as the Omnic Crisis, a war between humanity and machines

Things seemed hopeless until Overwatch was formed, consisting of Gabriel Reyes, Jack Morrison, Ana Amari, Reinhardt, Torbjörn, and Mina Liao

They fought against the omnics for years until the first sentient omnic, Aurora, gave her life to free omnics from Anubis and give them sentience

This soon led to the end of the Omnic Crisis

past copper
worthy rose
past copper
#

You’re welcome

#

The short version after that is basically this

#

Overwatch became an organization that protected the world from bad guys, such as Talon

People however thought they were getting out of control in their actions and started turning against the organization. Even problems from within their ranks too

This led to a fight between Jack and Reyes that destroyed the HQ and the UN shut Overwatch down

worthy rose
#

yea blackwatch

past copper
#

Years later, Overwatch is needed again when Null Sector returns after years of inactivity and starts a global invasion. All while Talon is acting behind the scenes

worthy rose
#

Winstons recall

past copper
#

Yup

worthy rose
#

but why is bastion there if he was in the forest? (as a playable character)

past copper
#

Bastion didn’t really participate in the Omnic Crisis. It’s drop pod was damaged upon landing and it sat dormant for years until accidentally being reactivated by a bird

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It wandered the forest since than for years until crossing the ocean and entering a populated area. It’s appearance scared people into taking up arms, but Torbjörn stopped them to deal with the bot himself

past copper
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However, Torbjörn found that it didn’t act like other bastions he’d faced and instead of destroying it, he brought it home with him to Gothanburg

worthy rose
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that makes sense

past copper
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Yup

worthy rose
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thanks <3

past copper
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You’re welcome

stone warren
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Who got the biggest fatty

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Its defo tracer

cobalt raven
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bro

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its zen

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fym

rare trail
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i dont think this is a topic for lore

cobalt raven
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it kinda is bro

stone warren
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Nah fam she could spread that all over king's row

cobalt raven
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lbr

stone warren
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ZEN late to pancake day

cobalt raven
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🧌

past copper
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Stop shitposting. This lore discussion, not Reddit

spare fox
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go to the Media page on Overwatch 2 for a start, they have all the comics and cinematics there

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or the official playoverwatch youtube page for the cinematics, afaik the comics and short stories are only on the official Blizz site

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All in pins too