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Again. The OC Titans were clearly only 60 meters. Null Sectors are clearly 30 meters
For an idea of meters, you can look at buildings
Still pretty large
An average 30 story apartment building is 100 meters tall
So if you have any apartments or office buildings nearby with 30 stories, those are 100 meters
If you dont have anything with that many floors nearby... Its probably taller than anything in your town
I need a workplace comedy about overwatch shitting the bed throughout the war only to get saved by Aurora in the last 10 minutes of the finale
Lol
True
Actually mid war Aurora saved them
Then Overwatch and the military won
Overwatch were the only ones (besides Russia) able to make any progress against the omnics
they shut down/cut off communications to several omniums
So basiucally the iris is just an AI
the Iris is an experience
So Aurora achieved transcendence not in shambali monastery but in some kind of laboratory?
it was the moment of oneness when Aurora linked them all
I guess she was Infused by the Friendly AI which makes it basically the riis then
Was it known before that they did it on purpose?
yes
Yes, I thought that was kinda weird
At the end it seemed like she herself turned into a god AI
she didn't turn into a god AI
she gave her sentience to every omnic
you could say that every omnic now has a piece of her
Most shocking for me was learning that she didn’t do it by herself like we thought but they used that thing
Honestly now Moira’s voice line with Echo makes a lot more sense, seeing how important Aurora was in stopping the crisis
I liked the line about "we have to try a new strategy every time because Anubis constantly adapted to us." it explains why there are so many different weapon styles being used in the world
& why each country needed a different method of defense
Honestly Anubis map would be sick (the god AI place shown in the short)
I can see it being control map or flashpoint
i thought there was a 2cp anubis map
there was
Yes
That’s temple of Anubis, not related to god AI Anubis
(Which we see in the animated short)
it's literally the place where Anubis was imprisoned
Wait really
that's the pyramid you spawn in as a defender in that map
Alright, but the place we saw in short would be also cool to see in game
So I learned a thing
Why didn’t they destroy Anubis? They wanted to analyse it or something?

i think were getting offtopic
They are
try to stay on topic
Nah they should just leave this chat
Maybe because it’s not easy to built an AI basically
And Anubis had a important role
Yeah but No AI is still better than rogue AI
Yeah but Anubis has been quarantined
good shit
Didn’t it break free?
It did
it did but Pharah's team stopped it
junk? maybe echo
Ngl maybe I'm biased but I'd love more moira lore
echo just got a lore bite
moira would be cool though we kinda got her origin and nothing else
I would go feral for moira backstory
Is she so intense due to past or
I NEED TO KNOW!!!
Something to think about. Bastion received Aurora’s message even while being damaged
That explains the change in light between red and blue when it encountered the fallen units from the war
Lucio- want more details on him beating Vishkar corp
Winston- just wanna know what life is like as a sentient nerdy gorilla.& Him betraying Hamston and stealing his rocket plans. We'll probably have to wait for the next Horizon survivor animal tho
ZEN!!
WTF
oh wow lucio has been in nothing
the heroes with the least number of lore appearances are Hanzo, Lifeweaver, Lucio, Wrecking Ball and Zenyatta
Yeah but Hanzos lore is pretty completet rn
like its a deep dive
With Zen we have basically nothing
I'd like to think that despite their awakening given by Aurora, their orders given by Anubis still remain.
but we know where he came from and what happened in his past
Fortunately now that they're awakened by Aurora, they now have a choice: continue following orders to eradicate humanity, or aid humanity to put an end to the crisis.
And that was a solid 50/50 on the omnics part
Still bummed that the IRIS is just an AI to counter Anubis
Aurora and Anubis get characters
the Iris isn't an AI
So the iris is what aurora "went into" to enlighten other monics
something like that
anubis possesses an omnic
Quite the historical moment in Overwatch
Reyes doesn't look very happy about it
Nah. He looked happy before this shot
He’s the one to have introduced them em to the team after all
honestly
i think lore wise
we are about to see Null Sector either partner up with doomfist and wreak havor
or create their own country
we already know that Null Sector is partnering with Talon
Whaaaaa
nah but doomfist got arrested right after meeting
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leaked location?
that's why Null Sector hasn't attacked before now - he broke out of jail recently, and now they're ready to start their war
Thank youuuuu
Watching The Last Bastion hits different now
headcanon: blackwatch resurfaces and teams up with talon/null
if overwatch came back
they're the reason Overwatch fell apart
shouldnt blackwatvch come back
they're not going to make a new Blackwatch
I recall some agents in Blackwatch joined Talon after the Overwatch HQ was destroyed
Not sure if that’s still canon tho
Given that from Train Hopper, I think it might be
why the dr liao kinda 
yes, some Blackwatch members went to Talon
That's not true.
The genesis story explains so much about how the omnic crisis ended, it was kinda vague earlier but now it’s clear. So I assume the iris that ramattra and Zenyatta talk about is the collective essence/being of all omnics? And aurora helped make this?
Could this be how they have their powers?
i cant believe genji used to have a foot fetish
is that a new animated short
nvm
He didnt steal them out of malice he found them but hamond feels betrayed because he was left behind
@peak escarp bro has the KNOWLEDGE
I've watched so many lore videos but it doesn't stick LOL
Why sojourn and soldier say tango
It’s slang for target/enemy supposedly, mostly used in the army I think
I think it releases next year but I may be wrong
i thought october?
looks like orisa rework is becoming canon
i wonder if they'll make up or something
i vaguely remember an ana jack story with an informant in like istanbul?
more hammond lore :D
Yesssss
"Lyndsay Ely brings heartrending clarity to Ashe and B.O.B.’s pre-Crisis history."
Rip
That’s sad
Considering the drawing is present her
this does not look like 9 year old ashe
Bob would be in a suit as well
OMG BOB IN SUIT
this is what he would've looked like pre deadlock
Oh is it?? I hope so
I remember hearing somewhere it was 2024
Then he became cooler
If you've ever played a CoD or Battlefield campaign you'd hear the soldiers should it a lot lol
in military terms tango means target or enemy
its a part of the phonetic alphabet as well
I bet the junker story line is going to be the comedy one.
I imagine it between action and comedy, sounds like fun
Is it gonna be available to read online?
How much time has passed since the junker queen cinematic
15 years i thought?
He wears a suit in the socialite Ashe skin
Also if howl threw out jqs family “13 years ago” and jq seemed to be no more than 8 years old
Wouldn’t that mean she won the reckoning at no more than age 21
she seemed more like 13-15 to me
In the cinematic have that age??
Ooooh, got it! Thought your mean when her was adult already
I was like: whaaaaaa
Wonder what happened to her brothers 😦
some of them died
she started with 5 siblings
here she has 2
maybe 3 if she's holding the baby
Damn, is she all by herself now in the present?
just watched genesis part 3.. it was really good
Probably? Unless they show a new heroe as her brother or sis!
Just like Hanzo or Genji or Kiriko
Idk
Probably not
But would be cool
"Forced to survive in the desolate wasteland, Odessa's family eventually began to die off, leaving her alone."
They saved all the good lore for last lol
Possible, but it's years before the time the game takes place. Junkrat is still a random in Junkertown during the short. So she's like 25-28 in-game
I was looking at the cover again and it looks like they’re in an ow ship. Wonder if it’s about them stealing one or some stupid shit
im pretty excited, but also kind of nervous, for when they start expanding more on the present day lore
I know there are multiple media outlets that have already but I mean in terms of the animated shorts and hero mission storytelling
yeah story missions lol
Hope they talk more about Sigma and why Sombra is so good with him
I don't need to sleep, I need answers!
Why Ramattra has hair? Other R-7000 models don’t have it
Omnic fashion I guess
does overwatch/anyone know that ramattra is leading null sector? like is his identity hidden?
What is the population of Junkertown
i’d assume anywhere between 5,000 to 20,000. because in junkerqueens cinematic that was a LOT of people attending the fight
Ok
he wanted hair
He got hair
So he just got inches done in an omnic barber ok
It kinda looks like those cables Sombra has in her hair as well
Tracer’s omnic friend Iggy also has hair
does rein dislike all omnics
Is Bob sentient or servant omnic?
servant i think
i've never seen him do anything else except tend to Ashe
I think he’s aware that omnics he fought were controlled by rogue AI, but he has nothing against omnic afaik
So he was made after the crisis
So he didn’t get awakened?
I think of him as a goofy friend that just chill will Ashe and Ashe have... kinda... take care of him?
Something like Patrick and Sponge Bob? Maybe?
i wouldn't describe them as friends. B.O.B. served Ashe's family as a caretaker mainly because her own parents neglected her
so more familial than friendly
yea basically
Ooooh, that's cool!
He doesn’t seem sentient
he sweats
What you mean? :0
B.O.B is somewhat aware, he’s supposed to follow Ashe’s parents but he follows her instead
In the mccree cinematic he sweats in the standoff
Meaning he can feel nervous
Making him somewhat sentient
I assume he’s sentient but just chooses to keep working as a butler since he’s been close to ashe her whole life, he did also mysteriously disappear during the crisis I think
Thought he was with them during the crisis bcuz cassidy seems to know bob and wasnt cassidy in the deadlock gang during the omnic crisis
not all of them
we know the gwishin aren't sentient, they're just highly adaptive
BOB left the Ashe family when the crisis started, then returned when it was over
he is sentient
Do we know why he left tho?? Did he fight too??
we don't know
the Ashe short story in the Heroes Ascendant collection will probably explain it
This was what I was looking forward too, finally, BOB lore
Would Zarya be able to lift up BOB?
BOB is a big guy
Indeed!
Wait wait wait, what is heavier, BOB or Wreckin ball (with ot without hamster in)??
Even with the hamster it wouldn't add too much
True... fluffy hampte tho
question about a skin, is Widowmakers noire skin tied to her being brain washed? because i've noticed her hair on the noire skin is wires going into her head
ball
@peak escarp :0
Oooooh! Thanks a lot buddy! c:
Didn't Cass lead ashe on then leave her
he flirted with her, but she rejected him
I thought so
im like 99% sure that in the awakening scene, aurora became the iris
pretty much
auora can get it tbh
what happened to doom fist's arm?
iirc he lost it in the omnic crisis
you can still see it in the gauntlet tho or am i mistaken
in the original skin
its just really skinny compared to his other arm
Oh okie ty, sorry for replying so late lol
Decided to rewatch the reunion short
How was it?
That pie tho
Imo Reunion is one of the best shorts, it's overall just a fantastic watch and it gave us two heroes.
She seems to have notices the arm.
Honor and Glory is my all time favorite. It overall felt like a movie.
Did not really age well
I really enjoy dragons
Honor and Glory is the best
My faves alive, has two of my fave heroes and is set in kings row. All the others talked about are insanely good too
Alive is cool, is that the Mondata assassination?
Yep
DOOMFIST IS HAMMONDS FATHER
Source?
Search doomfist- (nuh uh i dont wanna get muted)
With the new lore it’s very possible that Sigma could have met Aurora (if he wasn’t already on the colony)
Horizon Lunar Colony, I think Sigma was on it
Which part?
Numerous voice lines talk about him knowing Dr. Winston
As well as remembering Winston (Monkey)
But he was brought back to earth before the monkeys revolted
If Sigma kills a Winston he might say
“Like father like son”
"Don't shoot the tank"
We gotta remember voicelines aren't canon so we gotta be careful taking lore info from them
Tbf he would probably still know about Dr Winston in-universe because of his reputation or because of the news about the lunar colony
And also he didn't was in that station for his experiment of the black hole??
I feel like either way he would know Dr. Winston
Kind of like the toy guns voiceline between pharah and cassidy from ow1
By then they wouldn’t have like, met again and had that interaction
But the playing with toy guns part was still heavily implied to have happened
So it’s kind of like, yeah, Winston and Sigma have not interacted in canon, but the implication of sigma having known Dr. Winston is still heavily implied
Baptiste has crush on Cassidy???
He definitely finds him charming
lil flirty
He was asking if Cass is single
It’s kind of implied he’s interested, yeah
no
he wasnt on HLC during his experiment
What is HLC? Also, thanks for the info, thought was the same station
Oh gotcha! I didn't play OW1, I began to play like 2 or 3 weeks ago but I remember the cinematic tho
Thanks again fella! :]
So is it true tracer and sigma’s power are related somehow?
Not that we know of
Ok then what do y’all know about black watch cause I’m lost
blackwatch is like the shady part of overwatch
^^
they do more like secret stuff
Formerly led by Gabriel Reyes(now Reaper)
when it got found out what they really were thats what got the petras act in place and overwatch shut down
gerard was on there too i thought? and its like specifically anti talon
i might be making that up though
yeah i think im making that up nvm
Gerard was anti-Talon
Overwatch's Black Ops
So basically black watch was a covert ops organization that resulted in Overwatch getting shut down
yes
What is the Petra’s Act?
the act that made overwatch illegal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrOQs_8litU sojourn's origin is her testifying against overwatch iirc
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this helped get the petras act passed
Testifying AGAINST Overwatch?
Vivian spoke truthfully about her experiences, and her testimony proved pivotal in passing the Petras Act and ending Overwatch.
yeah she ended up thinking overwatch became cringe
it "lost its way"
That’s sad
Actually it isn’t
I read the Sojourn book
Did she join the recall?
It shows her with Tracer and Winston and Genji (Genji in his green and silver suit)
we will see her response to the recall in the short that comes out on August 4
when did genji get the green and silver suit?
Am I allowed to send photos?
yeah
because blackwatch genji had a diff suit and he had that suit like right before overwatch fell
maybe while he was wandering and met zenyatta?
Genji had his finished/current body before the fall of Overwatch
he had it on the Storm Rising mission
so why is it different for blackwatch?
because it's incomplete
but during retribution it was incomplete and wasnt that like right before the fall of overwatch?
Retribution was before Storm Rising
so there was a pretty long time between petras act and retribution?
Retribution was 8 years ago
the Petras Act was 5 years ago
This looks like new Overwatch
this was Storm Rising
I see
All of the animated cutscenes / cinematics for Storm Rising, the new 2019 Overwatch Archives Event. This includes the intro cutscene and the ending cutscene with the first appearance of Ramattra the Omnic leader of Null Sector. captured on the xbox one console. I will probably do more of these uploads for the Retribution and Uprising Events.
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This is before the fall of Overwatch?
yes
Storm Rising was the year before Overwatch was shut down
that mission led to Doomfist's arrest
im kinda confused how hanzo didnt know genji was alive
like wasnt overwatch on the news?
would he not have put it together that the guy with the green spirit dragon was genji?
these two do not look like the same person
and I doubt his dragons were seen on the news
Genjis entire demeanour changed, he’s pretty much a different person
i also think its kinda weird how hanzo just thought he was like a random assassin like wouldnt he have seen genji?
idk maybe Hanzo doesn't watch the news
Genji hasn't been seen by the public in at least 5 years, so it's likely he forgot
when does dragons take place?
after recall
Hanzo has probably had LOTS of people trying to assassinate him
“You are not the first assassin sent to kill me, and you will not be the last”
Also what was retribution
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Overwatch archive declassification complete.
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the best Archives mission, hands down
without a doubt lol
gamemodes where you play as a Spec-Ops team in any game are very fun
I’m lazy just give me the 2 sentence version of the lore stuff
Robot Good, Robot bad, Robot Gain Sentience, Robot good again
Bro why does it look like a real game😭
I started playing overwatch in ow 2
Ow 2 looks like funny CoD LoL
doesn't look any different to me
looks like the same game to me lol
Just a thought, but you think Kiriko might resent Overwatch for bringing down the Shimada Clan?
After all, they were the ones who kept other gangs like the Hashimoto under wraps before they were brought down
So if it wasn’t for Overwatch, the Hashimoto would’ve have seized power and wouldn’t have taken her father
So it makes you wonder if Kiriko would blame Overwatch for the Hashimoto extorting the people of Kanezaka
Shimada essentially fell with the “death” of Genji and Hanzo leaving
Overwatch just went there to clean up the illegal part of it
new seasonal mission !?!?!
Who was in charge of Talon during Retribution?
Genii was popping off
gabriel reyes
No, I meant Talon, not who was in charge of the MISSION against Talon.
Omg Rammatra
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Does Ramatra have like 2 Perosnalitys/Omnics in him
Since he says WE are unstoppable when he gets nanod
I think he just means his team, as in his team is unstoppable
yeah he's just speaking for the team
Volskaya industries makes those big mechs right?
the svyatogor, yes
weird question, but probably regular sized since he is a regular sized human
Thanks
How big poops does hog do

hugemongus
wtf

This guy just shitposting. Pack em up
how does doomfist beat
Actual shitposting though ☠️☠️
Haiiiii ^_^
Stop shitposting please
Yes. Please stop
If you got nothing lore related to ask or say, there’s several places you can go
aren't we able to tag mods in these situations
If somebody is using the channel incorrectly or breaking rules then you can let a mod know about it
can kiriko canonically teleport? or is she just really fast
she can teleport
So, it’s just a thought, but maybe we’re seeing a new look for Brig
But only a temporary one
Bc that looks like either training gear or something
Would be a nice touch. Showing that not only does the surrounding environment have life to it
But so to does the characters
Gabe and jack should stop their little argument and just kiss alr tbf
We all want it so blizz should just give us what we want 💀💀
Tbh cannot wait to be not at all impressed by pve 
prob just going to be like the ow1 pve events
Ok. Go take your cry about PvE to the place for it
if you go in expecting to be disappointed, you will be
I know it might be out of lore-discussion but that PVE will be free or is the one we have to pay??
it is paid
Believe they said it's $15
there will be PvE events that will be free, but the story missions will be paid
Gotcha! Thanks a lot!
Thanks
Oh, like the archieve missions?
mhm
season 6 will have a semi-canon PvE mission in King's Row
yes
What does "semi-canon" mean?
the mission involves rescuing Iggy, an omnic Tracer made friends with in the London Calling comic
but the mission itself isn't one that canonically happened
so it's a hypothetical mission
I think
we don't know the full details yet
Oh! Okay! Sounds like fun, we'll just have to see!
W reddit enthusiesy
That would be cool to see Iggy in the game instead of the comic
I personally liked her. She’s an interesting character from a more or less unnecessary 5 volume comic
in a ramattra devlog the devs said we would get more lore about ramattra in the pve so i hope that hasnt been scrapped
Believe it or not In the lore winton was a monkey like me
!!Loreonly
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It is lore tho winton was a monkey
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Did you get bullied in school
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It was in her cinematic even
Wait I thought all pve missions will be free to play during event but paid to be replayable after
Ohh
gabriel still loves his ex
its 15 euro for 1000 creds and a legendary + 3 missions
so basically bp + pve + legendary skin for 15
its a package of 1000 creds and the other stuff
you can basically most logically buy bp with 1000
nope
Ooooh, where is this blog? In their website or in battlenet menú? I'm kinda new so I still figuring out all lol
Thank youuuu!
Do we know anything about Lifeweaver's arm??
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Wrong channel bro
hardlight architects have their arms replaced with prosthetics probably for better hardlight manipulation
symmetra's arm is also a prosthetic
Is there any deep deep lore when it comes to Orisa? (She's my favorite tank
)
how is doomfists stupid mohawk skin apart of the lore
there was a novel starring her
Which one
?
forgot the name
it's not canon
why would they even put it in then
no the story not the skin
not all
and some non-canon skins have them
like this one
this skin is a reference to an X-men character
is it not of a game
(I know this is off topic) but who is the strongest in the ow2 lore?
i’m just gonna guess and say sigma
sigma winston sym and orisa are the top four
we dont really know who the strongest is
Is that like What doom would look like as an omnic?
Zenyatta is just an ordinary omnic
Zen is literally just a monk
Who knows 2 or more of the 8 paths (or something like that harmony and discord)
I'm going to google
Discord and harmony orb aren’t canon
He’s got no powers in lore (at least not that we know of)
he can maybe in lore float
So ok according to Google sig is number 1 which I personally don't disagree on but who 2nd?
Depends on what “strongest” is such a vague term
2nd is sym winston or orisa just as much as they are first
out of sym sigma winston and orisa we dont know who is the strongest
based on things we've seen in lore its winston and orisa
Can Sigma make black holes in the lore?
we dont know
we dont know how strong he is
Then how are people saying he’s number 1?
gravity powers are pretty strong
people say doom is #1 too
you can stop anyone from moving just by increasing the gravity on them
Could hanzo join talon
Maybe because if he can increase gravity enough, it would crush you
Is he focused enough to do that?
All we see is that he can float rocks in his origin
We don’t know
Lots of speculation that he’s strongest
He said he harnessed the harness
that's why Sigma's power ranking is speculative
because we don't know what he's capable of
same with Symmetra/Lifeweaver
I hope we get more sigma lore
I feel like lifeweaver could potentially be more powerful than sym
isnt sym especially good at manipulating hardlight?
she is
Was genji resurrected without agreeing to it
Yes but biolight has even more potential since it’s alive
He didn’t die
genji wasnt resurrected because he didnt die
Genji was saved by Mercy
Like imagine if he could create like prosthetic limbs from it that can actually have sense of feeling
Resurrect isn’t even a canon ability
I meant like being rebuilt
Genji was given a cyborg body by Overwatch in exchange for his help taking down the Shimada crime family
Pretty sure he didn’t want to be disabled
Do you guys think Doomfist lost that fight against Winston intentionally?
Personally I do because we see him dodge Winston's lightning gun with quite an ease
winston wasnt using his lightning gun when he beat him
Yes he used an even slower attack, that is why I am asking...
why would doom want to get captured
To have a big appearance in the news? (according along with the saying that there is no negative publicity), he escaped with no challenge tbf
doom doesnt need publicity
Why not?
because being in jail is bad???
also doom didnt organize the fight he was ambushed
also doom had a ton of time to dodge the shot
from winston
primal rage winston is way stronger than reg winston too
And reg Winston is a genetically enhanced Gorilla
he escaped easily because Talon has moles in Helix Security
ones that gave him intel and allowed him to give orders from prison
Just watched Wastelander
How was it?
My respect for JQ skyrocketed
My new favourite cinematic
Awesome music and animation
My reason to main JQ :]
Her breaking the fourth wall was a pleasant surprise
And the fact that she struggled with the fight and won with mercy was epic
mercy like the concept of sparing someone
Aaaaaah, lmao my bad
Thank you haha
Yeah, I really love it that. Like the kind of person or partner that won't betray you
Btw, about the new support is coming, who you think will be related with??
Junkrats voice actor has so much fun with the character
I think Lucio because he is from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, and since the new support Hero's abilities look like sun powers, it could hint that she is from somewhere between Colombia, Peru, or Southern Chile. Brazile is simply the closest. Sombra could also maybe be one.
I dont think she will be related to any existing heroes
and it's hinted that she's from Peru
Oh, she is. 😅
Awww, will be cool if she know Lucio somehow but we don't know what they are preparing for her (I think is a woman, right?)
yes
Have we seen anyone who looks like her in the lore?
It looks like she has cybernetic implants in her legs
Still no character from the collective, unless she is
It also looks like she’s jumping pretty high
So it’s possible she has Sojourn level legs
If not even greater quality
Lifeweaver is the hero they hinted at with ties to the Collective
he's in hiding on the Atlantic Arcology, which is run by the Collective
I think... she have an ability to blind everyone lol
that would suck to play against
Indeed! Specially if is bugged (in other game I used to play happened that and your screen just stayed white the whole match)
Literally wouldn’t guess
I really hope they're interesting.
Something tells me they are gonna be op but have barely any voicelines and lore
Don't give up hope just yet.
they’re entirely new, ofc they’ll barely have lore
Also his origin story was mostly about Vishkar and the Atlantic arcology was mentioned like once maybe, collective wasn’t even named
she is 3 months old and was built my a small child after doomfist broke her
ye
Ok
i think there were like 10+ orisa bots
So is efi still alive
What makes the orisa we play as special?
its the only one that was salvagable
efi found it destroyed
and uprgaded/rebuilt it
and gave it a heart
So she never built more?
i dont believe so
i dont even know how orisa is alive
making omnics is not possible by humans(as far as i know)
only aurora was able to do that
wdym
humans literally made omnics??
thats where omnics came from
How does Mercy's revive work?
like?
Is it like
not canon
they werent alive
The soul of the dead?
they never had a choice
revive isnt canon
oh alr
they cant make sentient omnics (besides for aurora) but humans can make omnics
ye but orisa is sentient
and efi made her
which is strange
cuz all the other orisa-bots werent sentient
Sad
Is bastion sentient too?
isnt give a heart mean its sentient? or is orisa using a weak ai thing
like hammonds mech
yes
all the omnics made before auroras awakening are sentient
life steal?
its not a revive as much as it is like a burst heal
Something like "Meet the Medic" of TF2??
what?
"resurrect" doesn't revive the dead
it's a burst heal for people who are badly injured
I feel like zen has very little lore behind him, all ik is that him and ramattra were best friends and taught under mondatta, he taught genji, and that genji could never hit him in their training
Even in voicelines he doesn't say what his profession before the omnics crisis was
that's because he's only 20
the omnic crisis was 30 years ago
he didn't exist before the crisis
Oh- wait then how is he alive? Is he like orisa where he has an ai comparable to what aurora did for all the omnics?
wdym
Omnics can be built but aurora gave them all sentience
yeah?
Zen came after aurora yes?
no
... wut
why do you think he came after aurora trasncended
He is 20 right?
And the omnics crisis was 30 years ago
Aurora was what lead to the humans slowly winning(due to a lot of omnics choosing peace)
If zen was made afterwards, he wouldn't have gained sentience from aurora
But he lives
That's the same with orisa
omnic crisis started 30 years ago
it ended later
Oh alr
Mb I'm a bit new to the lore
I'm trying my best, thnx for helping me understand
we don't have an explanation for the discrepancy
ig so?
even longer right?
wait im confused did zen not have a job before the war?
well there was no before the war for him right?
he gives mixed answers, not even Genji or Ram know
we dont know how long the crisis lasted
it has to be like 11 years at least right?
the White Dome mission 23 years ago was a group of "last holdouts"
so I think it would be ending by then
my guess is 5-7 years
so if zen is 20 then how is he sentient?
because i would assume the last holdouts would've been post aurora's transcendance but like then how would zen be sentient
maybe hes isnt 20?
maybe its just a retcon
an older version says "a group of outcast omnic robots experienced what they described as a spiritual awakening."
, a group of outcast omnic robots, known as the Shambali monks, abandoned their preprogrammed lives to establish a communal monastery deep in the Himalayas.
we don't know
why do we think he is 20?
maybe he only counts his age from when he had his spiritual awakening
thats possible
ram doesnt seem to count his that way though
still possible though
maybe they retconned his age?
wiki says that its twenty but the source is from the old bio which has the awakening happen after the crisis
because his old bio listed his age as 20
we didn't know when the Awakening happened
this is the first time we've been given a timeline
"Years ago, following the Omnic Crisis, a group of outcast omnic robots experienced what they described as a spiritual awakening." i thought this was aurora
no, that's the formation of the Shambali
so the spiritual awakening isnt aurora?
who built zenyatta?
we don't know
an Omnium lol
Obviously
They removed every age so I think the best answer to the zen’s mystery age is simply everyone’s ages were retconned and the timeline is being adjusted
I don't like assuming things are retconned without proof
I don't see why any ages need to be retconned
maybe updated for OW2, but not retconned
Is info about the horizon lunar colony still just "the gorillas took over and that's it"
And Hammond n Winston left
While the real Dr Winston was killed
Do we know anything beyond this?
Like if the colony has been progressing?
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Empathy module, Orisa doesn’t have a heart, it’s all programming
She had to learn
Where was the omnium in australia? Ppl keep saying it was in the outback but wouldnt it be in like canberra, sydney, or melbourne?
it was in the outback
because Junkertown is built inside its burnt out shell
omniums are the size of cities themselves, so they can't really be built in major cities
Do you think we could get a mondotta skin for zen
no
Wouldn’t make any sense bc they’re not the same person
Considering Mondatta was a person and is now dead, I’m pretty sure cosplaying as him would disrespectful
Rein got a skin of balderich
Who is also dead
That’s different. That’s armor
Is there a comic? Is it free to read online?
Mei players does not equal to Mei being cold-blooded. Mei is quite nice.
Zenyatta in Mondatta robes
They will basically look the same
They did it for Balderich rein
I haven’t watched Honor and Glory in a while, is Balderich’s decomposed corpse just sitting in the armor
Yup
Bastion is not human, you know that?
yes?
i 90% sure
Bastion is an omnic
how long is inbetween bastion cinematic and binary?
about 15 years
so bastion was just wandering around for 15 years?
Probably became a Urban Legebd
Like Bigfoot
“Number Three, Wilderness Bastion”
This omnic was doing a nature hike and he saw a large looking figure, if you zoom in it looks like a Bastion unit 😱 😱 😱”
“Time for the premier of our new tv show ‘Finding Bastion’, a group of humans and omnics try and find the elusive legend of the wilderness bastion”
bastion was in germany right when he was found
ohhh ty
I never knew it was that long, I always assumed it was a few weeks/months after the cinematic
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Wonder how long until Mei shares with Overwatch that she may know the location where Null Sector came from
It’s pretty clear that Null Sector is responsible for the anomalies in Antarctica
She knows?
she was studying the anomaly in Antarctica
it's implied to be the omnium that Ramattra is using to start his war
Makes you wonder how long until she puts two n two together
Question is though, would they have enough firepower to attack?
After all, that is the Prime Omnium. Ramattra wouldn’t leave it vulnerable to attack
Did bob take Cassidy’s arm?
No
How did he lose it
We don’t know
I point fingers at wrecking ball
They never met
why would Wrecking Ball have anything to do with it?
wrong channel fam
Like 3 weeks and we’ll have Invasion. Hyped
Is Kiriko actually part of Overwatch? She has a voice line where she says “look mom, I’m an Overwatch agent”

They should make a short story where Junkrat infiltrates Helix Securities and steals one of their raptora armors
He deserves one
She only says that when there are only Overwatch agent in the team.
It isn't canon with the lore
But it's not impossible that she's part of Overwatch to help stop the crisis
After he steals it he should try it and crash it immediately
on the one hand, a few years ago I would have expected the roster of heroes to also include a bunch of "free agents" who aren't part of OW or Talon and I would say that Kiriko would be one of those
however I did include D.Va and Pharah within those "free agent" theory and now they're part of Overwatch so 🤷
I think down the line they'll at least team up with OW and possibly join up. We'll see how Heroes Ascendant stories go I suppose.
I mean a lot of heroes are still not affiliated with talon or overwatch
Junker Queen, Junkrat, Kiriko, Lifeweaver, Roadhog, Symmetra, Wrecking Ball and Zenyatta all have no affiliation with either Overwatch or Talon
Theory that sucks!
Aurora became the iris, so could that mean a tiny part of her could survive in a computer, and just gain knowledge
Could the eye that doxxed sombra be Aurora?
not likely
So we still have no idea what it is
what what is?
The eye that scared Sombra into deleting her identity
nope
aurora became the iris?
i thought she ascended to the iris
isnt the iris like a state of being
In the final genesis she kinda became it
wdym
Iris isn't, most of all, like a "moment" or event instead of a God or a state of being?
Damn, now I doubt all
i thought it was like nirvana or smth
That have sense for me
So did I
the Iris is the moment of oneness they experienced when Aurora linked everyone and gave them sentience
Wasn’t aurora made by the same person who made echo?
Who’s athena?
I don’t really keep up with lore unless it’s widows, but it interests me
Is Junkerqueen Song canon?
I wonder if they played with "unreliable narrator" for Junkerqueen's cinematic, tbh
not that it's all a lie or anything but it might have a stretched truth about it
it's heavily exaggerated
exactly
from what I interpret about it, the canon parts are
- Her family was kicked out of JT by Howl (the whole bad dream sequence)
- Howl is a scumbag ruler, and cheats at his own game
- She defeated Howl and kicked him out, now she's Queen
I know in-game banter is not canon, however her in-game character as a whole is quite different from how she was in her cinematic
She doesn't come across as noble, imo
Power changes people
this isnt really a topic for lore
can someone tell me the lore?
That's not all
and they all like pineapple on pizza
Thats it? So then why is there a whole channel for this. i dont get it.
That’s not even close to accurate
ok thank you!
The lore is this in a nutshell
The world was peaceful around 30 years ago until omnics starting attacking humanity after a god program, Anubis, took control of them
This began the global war that would become known as the Omnic Crisis, a war between humanity and machines
Things seemed hopeless until Overwatch was formed, consisting of Gabriel Reyes, Jack Morrison, Ana Amari, Reinhardt, Torbjörn, and Mina Liao
They fought against the omnics for years until the first sentient omnic, Aurora, gave her life to free omnics from Anubis and give them sentience
This soon led to the end of the Omnic Crisis
That’s the beginning of the story anyway
thanks so much :)
You’re welcome
The short version after that is basically this
Overwatch became an organization that protected the world from bad guys, such as Talon
People however thought they were getting out of control in their actions and started turning against the organization. Even problems from within their ranks too
This led to a fight between Jack and Reyes that destroyed the HQ and the UN shut Overwatch down
yea blackwatch
Years later, Overwatch is needed again when Null Sector returns after years of inactivity and starts a global invasion. All while Talon is acting behind the scenes
Winstons recall
Yup
but why is bastion there if he was in the forest? (as a playable character)
Bastion didn’t really participate in the Omnic Crisis. It’s drop pod was damaged upon landing and it sat dormant for years until accidentally being reactivated by a bird
It wandered the forest since than for years until crossing the ocean and entering a populated area. It’s appearance scared people into taking up arms, but Torbjörn stopped them to deal with the bot himself
ohhh
However, Torbjörn found that it didn’t act like other bastions he’d faced and instead of destroying it, he brought it home with him to Gothanburg
that makes sense
Yup
thanks <3
You’re welcome
i dont think this is a topic for lore
it kinda is bro
Nah fam she could spread that all over king's row
lbr
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Stop shitposting. This lore discussion, not Reddit
go to the Media page on Overwatch 2 for a start, they have all the comics and cinematics there
or the official playoverwatch youtube page for the cinematics, afaik the comics and short stories are only on the official Blizz site
All in pins too
