I think she’s just like that
#lore-discussion
glacial zinc
I don’t care, I will still die of cringe when I hear “You’re walled up 🤧”
peak escarp
glacial zinc
Still her personality + her abilities are just not good
glacial zinc
Have u seen how she punches
Kiriko is also a kid on the battlefield
She’s either 19 to 27 😡
tall lotus
Yea well shes a powerful one so that makes up for it
peak escarp
Kiriko is 24
tall lotus
So chronologically shes 40 but biologically shes 31
peak escarp
if you think that's old... 😬
tall lotus
Also doesnt mercy age slower
peak escarp
no
glacial zinc
Also doesnt mercy age slower
What no way 😠
peak escarp
Mercy is the same age as Cassidy
glacial zinc
Because of the valkarie suit
Do people actually think that?
peak escarp
none of the heroes age slower
tall lotus
does tracer age slower since she can control her own time
tall lotus
Do people actually think that?
Yea i saw on tiktok and searched it up but i wasnt sure
glacial zinc
does tracer age slower since she can control her own time
No Overwatch heroes don’t age slower, some just stopped aging for a bit
peak escarp
the amount she goes backward is cancelled out by the amount she goes forward
don't believe anything tiktok says
tall lotus
How come mercy doesnt look nearly as old as ana and soldier
glacial zinc
don't believe anything tiktok says
“Did you know that Zenyatta and Ramattra canonically eat each others toes, something even odder is that- Did you know that”
peak escarp
Ana is 60, Soldier is 57
glacial zinc
what is talon
A terrorist orginazation
rain coral
A terrorist orginazation
yeah i got that part but like why
glacial zinc
yeah i got that part but like why
Talon wants to create a better world with conflict
“Our future will be forged in conflict”
rain coral
oh
glacial zinc
But Overwatch doesn’t like their terrorist attacks so they try to stop em
glacial zinc
Blackwatch basically did the more shady stuff
tall lotus
i find it confusing mercy has her recurect ability in game but in lore she cant
tall lotus
Blackwatch basically did the more shady stuff
like wear hot suits
tall lotus
Criminals were hired for black watch
and put in sexy suits
glacial zinc
and put in sexy suits
Yes very sexy
rain coral
so@
rain coral
sombras a villain
glacial zinc
Some criminal was bragging about how they would get out of arrested
So repear got mad and shot him in the chest then threw him out a window
That was called the Venice Incident
rain coral
where do ppl find the actual canon lore lol
glacial zinc
And part of the reason Overwatch was disbanded
tall lotus
sombras a villain
yup she uses infromation to manipulate people and she gets something out of it
rain coral
yup she uses infromation to manipulate people and she gets something out of it
and widowmaker too?
glacial zinc
Because people realized what blackwatch was
peak escarp
i find it confusing mercy has her recurect ability in game but in lore she cant
this is how resurrect looks in the lore
it's a burst of healing to revive a person who is incapacitated
tall lotus
and widowmaker too?
widow followed orders given to her by talon she doesnt have much free will
peak escarp
not a literal resurrection
tall lotus
not a literal resurrection
ahhhh
peak escarp
Widowmaker has some degree of free will
enough to visit her husband's grave and buy her own mansion
rain coral
what does that mean
glacial zinc
She was tortured and her mind was remade by Moira
tall lotus
Widow is a sleeper agent
Wasnt she a sleeper at first and then she became a talon operative
glacial zinc
She was kidnapped and went through intense mental reconditioning, then Overwatch found her no worse for wear, two weeks later she killed her husband who was an Overwatch agent and fled the scene
rain coral
Mentally insane
yeah ik he just seems evil for that reason to me
tall lotus
Sigma may work for talon but that is due to his mental disorders and heavy manipulation
rain coral
i know some lore just like not everything
tall lotus
Sombra is the only one who truley cares for sigma
rain coral
where did y’all learn this stuff
rain coral
Sombra is the only one who truley cares for sigma
awh
rain coral
She was kidnapped and went through intense mental reconditioning, then Overwatch...
jesus
tall lotus
Which is rare since sombra doesnt care for people
glacial zinc
where did y’all learn this stuff
Wiki and google
rain coral
so she killed her husband after being manipulated basically
glacial zinc
Which is rare since sombra doesnt care for people
Sombra was running with gangs since she was a kid lol
tall lotus
Sombra was running with gangs since she was a kid lol
Yup
Its cute to see sombra care for sigma
tall lotus
Where does she
interactions she always tells moira to stop poking in his brain
glacial zinc
She’s kinda fun
tall lotus
And theres the cutest one when sigmas like there you are my friend
rain coral
so who are all the bad guys
glacial zinc
Towards everyone
tall lotus
makes me heart melt
rare trail
sigma Moira reaper widow doom
glacial zinc
so who are all the bad guys
Doomfist, Widowmaker, Sombra, Reaper, Sigma, Moira are a part of talon
rain coral
DOOM IS WVIL
tall lotus
who’s apart of talon in the game
doomfist moira sigma reaper widow sombra
and baptiste was for a period of time
glacial zinc
Rammatra and all Null Sectors skins are also kinda evil
rain coral
can someone tell me the lore of wrecking ball
glacial zinc
can someone tell me the lore of wrecking ball
He was on the Horizan lunar colony
With Winston
tall lotus
He was with winston as an experiment on horizon lunar colony
peak escarp
these are the people on the Talon council - (L->R) Sanjay Korpal, Akande "Doomfist" Ogundimu, Maximilien, Gabriel "Reaper" Reyes and Moira O'deorain
glacial zinc
And he kept escaping, one day he made a real plan
rain coral
He was with winston as an experiment on horizon lunar colony
do yk why he can’t talk
rare trail
he’s a hamster
peak escarp
because he's a hamster
glacial zinc
But Winston took it accidentally and escaped, so hampter decided to follow him with a cable, fell in junker town
rain coral
he’s a hamster
really
glacial zinc
And became a champion
peak escarp
gorillas are closer to humans biologically
glacial zinc
do yk why he can’t talk
Unlike gorillas, he doesn’t have the same potential to speak
rain coral
he’s smarter maybe
rare trail
Winston has genetic stuff to make him more human
tall lotus
Im excited to see how the new character fits into the lore
glacial zinc
I don’t think it’s an issue with intelligence
No it probably is
Doesn’t have the same potential to speak
peak escarp
it's not about intelligence
glacial zinc
Since monkeys are closer to humans
peak escarp
Hammond is very intelligent
glacial zinc
He is but he doesn’t have the vocal potential
peak escarp
exactly
glacial zinc
All about the animals
glacial zinc
Mei shouldnt be able to speak
Damn you changed your mind
rain coral
Mei shouldnt be able to speak
💀
tall lotus
i wish mei froze to death with her crew
glacial zinc
i wish mei froze to death with her crew
Way far
rain coral
LMAO
peak escarp
rude
tall lotus
#truth
rain coral
what’s the beef with ashe and cassidy
tall lotus
Love arm rip bob gun bike cargo train
peak escarp
Cassidy betrayed the gang and worked with "the law" (Overwatch)
which broke Ashe's principles
rain coral
oh
hollow tinsel
(L rizz)
glacial zinc
which broke Ashe's principles
They all talked about being a family and never letting each other down, and he did that
rain coral
damn
tall lotus
I hope mei blows up in story mode
glacial zinc
And threatened to blow herself up if she didn’t get him back
peak escarp
there were four founding members of the Deadlock Gang - Ashe, Cassidy, a hacker named Frankie and a rival gang member named Bez
glacial zinc
there were four founding members of the Deadlock Gang - Ashe, Cassidy, a hacker ...
No Julian
peak escarp
Julian betrayed the gang before it was officially formed
rain coral
did ashe make bob
peak escarp
Bez was with them when they got their gang jackets
glacial zinc
Goofy wimp
tall lotus
did ashe make bob
Nope
glacial zinc
did ashe make bob
Nope
tall lotus
Bob was a housekeeper
peak escarp
did ashe make bob
no he was her family's butler from before the crisis
Bob is the oldest omnic we know
rain coral
wait is bob an omnic
tall lotus
And was like a better parent for ashe since her family was poo poo
tall lotus
i didn’t even realize he was an omnic
did u think he was a pumpkin
rain coral
did u think he was a pumpkin
stfu
i thought he was just like
her robot buddy that wasn’t an omnic
rain coral
or smth
peak escarp
omnic is a brand of robot
rain coral
omnic is a brand of robot
i know
rain coral
idk how i didn’t realize it before
peak escarp
Orisa is an omnic because she was made from an OR15, which was made in an omnium
Echo is not an omnic because she wasn't made in an omnium
rain coral
i don’t rlly know the lore and shit i thought all omnics looked like zenyatta before ram
tall lotus
Echo is such an interesting character
Also i noticed something about junker queen
on her knee its an omnic face
As a knee pad
rain coral
Orisa is an omnic because she was made from an OR15, which was made in an omnium...
woah
glacial zinc
on her knee its an omnic face
And her shoulder
rain coral
no way!
glacial zinc
She is very racist
glacial zinc
so is rein
She is canonically the most racist character
tall lotus
damn
peak escarp
Rein isn't racist
tall lotus
There was a clip where he saw bastion and charged right into him in the old story trailer
desert yacht
but he has reasons
wouldn’t queen have had to defend herself from omnics constantly in the wasteland
glacial zinc
wouldn’t queen have had to defend herself from omnics constantly in the wastelan...
Nah
All junkers hate omnics, so any omnics that appear there are just killed
tall lotus
All junkers hate omnics, so any omnics that appear there are just killed
imagine zen appeared good lucky tryna kill him
glacial zinc
imagine zen appeared good lucky tryna kill him
“Pass into the iris”
tall lotus
litro
peak escarp
imagine zen appeared good lucky tryna kill him
lol what is Zen going to do?
he's pretty weak
glacial zinc
Eh
peak escarp
he's not strong at all in the lore
he's strong in the game
in the lore Zen is a glorified therapist
desert yacht
she was thrown into the wasteland with her family when she was a child and had to fend for herself for years
glacial zinc
I feel like any logic that can be applied to rein can be applied to queen
No not really
glacial zinc
she was thrown into the wasteland with her family when she was a child and had t...
What does that have to do withomnics
desert yacht
would she not have to defend herself from omnics in the wasteland
tall lotus
in the lore Zen is a glorified therapist
a hot one aswell
glacial zinc
would she not have to defend herself from omnics in the wasteland
No omnics in the wasteland really
tall lotus
would she not have to defend herself from omnics in the wasteland
she would have to defend herself against alot of different things so it wouldn’t make sense for her to only hate one
glacial zinc
Mostly humans
opaque lintel
Anyone want to play comp
opaque lintel
huh
quaint helm
Which characters are racist toward omnics
rare trail
all junkers
rare trail
rein and torb might be like old grandpa version of omnic racism
rare trail
I haven’t read all of soj novel but she doesn’t seem to be the most accepting of omnics
oh yeah and zarya
quaint helm
Widow guaranteed
rare trail
she did kill mondotta but yk she just likes to kill people
quaint helm
Yeah
quaint helm
rein and torb might be like old grandpa version of omnic racism
Solider maybe
rare trail
yeah soldier and Ana
quaint helm
D. va
rare trail
idk about dva
quaint helm
Because gwishin
rare trail
idk like tracer fights omnics and isn’t anti omnic
quaint helm
Yeah, but it seems personal because it's her home she's fighting for
Would all Junkers include hammond
rare trail
she probably hates gwishin omnics but idk about omnics as a whole
rare trail
Would all Junkers include hammond
maybe his ball isn’t a omnic so it’s very possible
I’m not sure what his interactions are
rare trail
hanzo i think we just don’t know
he doesn’t seem to be against genji being part cybernetic
merry token
An in-game voiceline does have him asking what genji is wearing
It is just a what if voiceline, though
ivory garnet
Omnic is a brand of robot born out of an Omnium
Hammond’s ball is a mech
not an omnic
Genji is Cybernetic
not part omnic
ruby gull
what’s hamsters lore?
worthy rose
He was a specimen on the Horizon Lunar Colony, specifically specimen 8. During the "uprising" or whatever you wanna call it, he secretly created a pod and anchored it to Winston's escape pod in an attempt to hitch a ride back to Earth. Hammond's pod detached, and it landed in Australia. From there, he travelled to Junkertown, modified his pod, and became the champion of the scrapyard, Junkertown's mech battle arena
He was friends with Winston, but not anymore after Winston was going to abandon him on the lunar colony
desert yacht
Hanzo looks like he could very slimly be
in the dragons cinematic the only dude hanzo straight up shot was an omnic
he disarmed or incapacitated every other hashimoto(?)
idk if that’s just a censorship thing, hanzo considering omnic lives to be below human lives, or just looking too deep into things
regardless it’s only one detail and doesn’t entirely confirm anti-omnic sentiment
vivid belfry
idk if that’s just a censorship thing, hanzo considering omnic lives to be below...
Well im pretty sure you can revive a omnic by putting their conciseness inside of a different omnics body
Pretty sure so if that’s true maybe hanzo knows
past copper
Well im pretty sure you can revive a omnic by putting their conciseness inside o...
Wouldn't make much sense
If that were the case, Mondatta's death would not have been an issue
vivid belfry
Well idk man
past copper
It was clearly a censorship thing
vivid belfry
Or maybe hanzos just racist 🤷♂️
past copper
Blizzard wasn't going to straight up show a guy getting merced in the first shorts
Didn't show the guy Soldier blew to kingdom come
Or if the ops Winston fought were killed
merry token
Well im pretty sure you can revive a omnic by putting their conciseness inside o...
Id assume it’s for censorship reasons as well, also cause he just happened to be in the way of him getting to the building
past copper
Plus, they work for the Hashimoto
If Hanzo felt like it, he would have killed them all that night
He probably just didn't want to sully his home with their blood
golden oak
Did Reinhardt ever have a love interest
keen summit
Did Reinhardt ever have a love interest
not that we know off
keen summit
idk if that’s just a censorship thing, hanzo considering omnic lives to be below...
in japan omnic racism barely exists
keen summit
hanzo i think we just don’t know
hanzo follows japanese culture, we've seen that in japan in overwatch racismn against omnics is highly fround upon thx to zarya comic
golden oak
not that we know off
So he’s single 😏
keen summit
yeah, rein doesnt really seem like a person that interested tho, like he probs believes it would slow him down or stop him from doing whats needed, like soldier had
or be dangerous
golden oak
hanzo follows japanese culture, we've seen that in japan in overwatch racismn ag...
I know voice lines aren’t canon but Hanzo doesn’t seem to be fond of Zenyatta for example
So I’d say he might have some prejudice towards omnic, especially since he grew up in a family that takes tradition very seriously and prejudice is common in those families
keen summit
I know voice lines aren’t canon but Hanzo doesn’t seem to be fond of Zenyatta fo...
voicelines are canon to an extent
keen summit
I know voice lines aren’t canon but Hanzo doesn’t seem to be fond of Zenyatta fo...
but which ones
golden oak
voicelines are canon to an extent
Hanzo Never met Zenyatta in comics
keen summit
Hanzo Never met Zenyatta in comics
i know but its still canon to an extent, as in it is true what they say but not true that it happened
golden oak
but which ones
I’m talking about Hanzo and Zenyatta Voice lines talking about genji
keen summit
I’m talking about Hanzo and Zenyatta Voice lines talking about genji
what do they say i forgor
queen pumice
What is a over watch
proven fox
What did Doomfist do before he was in Talon?
golden oak
What did Doomfist do before he was in Talon?
Martial arts
robust sparrow
What did Doomfist do before he was in Talon?
Not sure but lost his arm during the omnic crisis then joined Talon
ivory garnet
What did Doomfist do before he was in Talon?
Martial Arts/Training with the prior Doomfist
supple trout
What's the community's consensus on Mitzi eventually being introduced as jet-pack cat?
glacial zinc
Jet Pack Cat > All Heroes
Most characters are not racist
Even junkrat and Roadhog are getting slightly better
But Junker Queen
Imagine if she was an omnic with human faces on her as armor
glacial zinc
Well im pretty sure you can revive a omnic by putting their conciseness inside o...
Nope also since omniums are broken, that’s -1 omnic
That omnics place will never be replaced
Anytime we kills an omnic in game we are helping the extinction of them
glacial zinc
https://youtu.be/I_5JBs24arM
Damn
golden oak
Nope also since omniums are broken, that’s -1 omnic
New omnics can be made but they won’t be sentient since Aurora gave them sentience and she’s gone now
unique spruce
t
peak escarp
What's the community's consensus on Mitzi eventually being introduced as jet-pac...
never going to happen
supple trout
never going to happen
A man can dream.
quaint helm
Which characters are racist toward omnics
Reaper fs
twilit patrol
Reaper fs
Why do you answer to yourself ?
And we don't know which characters are racist
hollow tinsel
The junkers are anti-omnic
I know a video of which characters are the most racist but I'll send it later
tardy summit
And we don't know which characters are racist
zarya and torb were formerly
i believe zarya still holds some prejudice perhaps
torb has a voiceline in game saying he can't believe he 'fell for all that anti-omnic claptrap' if i remember correctly
rain coral
ok this has to be a stupid question but aren’t omnics human made like
they can’t reproduce right
they’re robots
rain coral
New omnics can be made but they won’t be sentient since Aurora gave them sentien...
who
hollow tinsel
they can’t reproduce right
Yup
quaint helm
<:questionmarkCube:801012881042178068>
Because I realized
That's why I responded to myself
tribal turret
Can Zenyatta's soul be transported to other animals because he's an octopus in the zen-Nakji skin
rare trail
you can make more omnics but you cant make mroe sentient omnics
limpid agate
Can Zenyatta's soul be transported to other animals because he's an octopus in ...
That skin is not canon
rare trail
and was echo after aurora?
tepid lion
are omnics restriced to beeing made by the omnic factories?
peak escarp
yes
robust sparrow
Widowmaker was a ballet dancer in Paris before her current situation rn,
She had been married to Gerard for an unknown amount of time but she knew that he was a important figure in the Overwatch organization
Talon deeply wanted to get rid of Gerard but all attempts were just futile. They decided to shift their target to Gerard’s wife
In the dead of night they kidnapped Amelie (Widowmaker) and supposedly tortured her/ put her into a intensive program of reconditioning. They eventually broke her will and that turned her into a sleeper agent
Gerard devoted Overwatch’s every resource to rescue his wife. Fortunately he was lucky enough, his agents successfully rescued Amelie (Widowmaker)
Though, this time Amelie was different. After a psychological evaluation, it was found that she was in an abnormal condition
Two weeks after she was rescued, she killed her husband in his sleep
robust sparrow
Widowmaker was a ballet dancer in Paris before her current situation rn,
She h...
@teal kiln So basically no, Widowmaker did not kill her husband willingly, she was no longer in control of her actions and has lost all her emotions after the kidnapping
robust sparrow
she is in control of her actions
I mean in a psychological way not really since she has lost all of her emotions and was commanded to assassinate gerard (?)
peak escarp
that part she didn't choose to do
but she returned to Talon willingly and is allowed to act freely under their command
she's even allowed to visit his grave and buy her own house
she is not being controlled
golden oak
Can Zenyatta's soul be transported to other animals because he's an octopus in ...
That skin was made for Owl mvp afaik
Just like the infamous zarya skin
mental willow
she is not being controlled
To be fair where does anyones control over another end. She still lacks emotion because of what was done to her. She wouldn't be considered in the right state of mind, and while she's not directly controlled she isn't exactly free either.
golden oak
She doesn’t lack emotion, they’re just suppressed
glacial zinc
New omnics can be made but they won’t be sentient since Aurora gave them sentien...
No Ramattra says that omnics are a finite race
glacial zinc
Can Zenyatta's soul be transported to other animals because he's an octopus in ...
Only archive skins are canon I think
rare trail
No Ramattra says that omnics are a finite race
ramattra has literally made omnics himself
when he says theyre finite he means sentient ones like himself and zenyatta
all null sector omnics were made by him
glacial zinc
ramattra has literally made omnics himself
So basically a finite race
Of sentient beings
rare trail
yes but new omnics can be made they just wont be sentient
glacial zinc
Orisa is weird
wind wind
Widowmaker was a ballet dancer in Paris before her current situation rn,
She h...
ooo
do we have any info the genard guy
he may be dead but he soundss tough
peak escarp
well there can be new sentient omnics with like orisa
Orisa was upgraded from an existing omnic
rare trail
was the existing omnic sentient?
glacial zinc
Omnic manufacturing has stopped
And humans lack the resources to build new ones on a large scale
Omnics like Orisa can be made, but not a lot
glacial zinc
do we have any info the genard guy
A comic, he was very skilled
glacial zinc
I doubt he is continuously churning out omnics for the hell of it
Battle omnics with no soul I think
rare trail
it wouldnt just be for the hell of it
he is the leader of null sector troops would be useful to him
glacial zinc
Yes
Not for the hell of it
Humanoid omnics are considered the omnic race he’s talking about
Battle omnics are different
golden oak
No Ramattra says that omnics are a finite race
He means the sentient omnics
There are also non sentient ones like you see in circuit Royale or rialto
Just servants
rain coral
how is orisa an omnic
glacial zinc
Just servants
They are still being made by a few certain omniums still around,
glacial zinc
how is orisa an omnic
Frankenstein omnic
rain coral
Frankenstein omnic
was she made out of like omnic parts or something
glacial zinc
Yes Doomfist arrived in Numbani and destroyed the OR15 Defense Units, a young inventor named Efi used the scrapped bodies to build a new omnic that felt, kinda
tepid lion
was she made out of like omnic parts or something
Orissa was an Omnic Protecting Unit that was modified by the girl
so she is kinda ominc
I mean bastion was rebuilt by torb too so is he an omnic?
rare trail
yeah theyre both omnics
glacial zinc
She briefly turned off the empathy module, resulting in Orisa almost killing a child dressed as Doomfist
There’s a whole book about it
rain coral
Yes Doomfist arrived in Numbani and destroyed the OR15 Defense Units, a young in...
the or15 defense units were omnics?
tepid lion
As in Null Sector there were OR15s aswell
tepid lion
Or in the Reinhardt cinematic
glacial zinc
No
tepid lion
ye just a "modern" or15
rain coral
what’s the difference
rare trail
i dont think we've seen null sector idinas
glacial zinc
what’s the difference
One had a giant sword and was designed to kill
glacial zinc
i dont think we've seen null sector idinas
There are skins
rare trail
skins arent always canon
tepid lion
ye skins big grain of salt
glacial zinc
skins arent always canon
Archive skins are for the most part
tepid lion
but i belive torb had sideburns
tepid lion
So Cancer mercy is canon?
glacial zinc
So Cancer mercy is canon?
Tied to the lore?
rain coral
what type of omnic is zen
glacial zinc
Basic sentient
tepid lion
u said all with descriptions are canon
rain coral
yeah mercy has cancer
tepid lion
xD
glacial zinc
He witnessed Aurora passing into the iris I think
rare trail
why do you think that?
glacial zinc
why do you think that?
I remember reading it somewhere
tepid lion
Who is Aurora?
rare trail
aurora is like echo 1.0
glacial zinc
Who is Aurora?
The first sentient omnic
rare trail
she was the first sentient omnic and sacrificed herself to give all other omnics sentience
glacial zinc
She ascended basically
rain coral
how does orisa have sentience
rain coral
ohh
glacial zinc
I have no idea how it works or if she got it or made it
Now sit she did make a sentient robot before
A mini virtual helper that kidnapped its owner
And created a mechanism for itself or something
tepid lion
So echo is an omnic too since mina liao was working for Omnica Corporation
glacial zinc
So echo is an omnic too since mina liao was working for Omnica Corporation
No, not made with omnic parts, she is an advanced Ai
rain coral
so an omnic is anything made with omnic parts
glacial zinc
Made during Overwatch time
rare trail
echo is not an omnic
peak escarp
Echo is a robot, not an AI
glacial zinc
Not made in an omnium
peak escarp
Athena is an AI
glacial zinc
Athena is an AI
Why no Athena lore lol
rain coral
who’s athena
tepid lion
Athena prob connected to echo
glacial zinc
who’s athena
The one that says “play of the game”
rain coral
OHH
glacial zinc
I read all the novels, liked hero of Numbani best
glacial zinc
Wdym
tepid lion
So? in teh OW2 Trailer the big robot might be an omnic from a volskaya factory?
peak escarp
Volskaya makes mechs, not omnics
glacial zinc
Volskaya makes mechs, not omnics
Mechs wrecked by reaper
rain coral
does genji actuwlly like mercy
peak escarp
the big robot is a titan omnic
rain coral
is that canon
tepid lion
The giant mech in the Zero Hour Trailer kinda is like the giant robots from the Sombra Cinematic
glacial zinc
is that canon
No
peak escarp
is that canon
seems to be
glacial zinc
They are friends
rain coral
suspicious
glacial zinc
seems to be
They are close friends, I doubt it’s canon
glacial zinc
The giant mech in the Zero Hour Trailer kinda is like the giant robots from the ...
Those are mechs
tepid lion
Those are mechs
Yeah but it could be argued the omnics took over one of the factorys?
peak escarp
The giant mech in the Zero Hour Trailer kinda is like the giant robots from the ...
they are not the same
glacial zinc
is anyone else dating in ow 🥺
In hero roster
rare trail
brig mentioned a love interest to someone iirc
tepid lion
they are not the same
Prove It
glacial zinc
Rammatra x Bastion is canon
rain coral
In hero roster
yeah lol that’s what i mean
glacial zinc
No one else I think
hollow tinsel
they have robot sex
Calm down bro
rain coral
what abt bap x soldier
glacial zinc
what abt bap x soldier
Nope
hollow tinsel
what abt bap x soldier
No
tepid lion
is anyone else dating in ow 🥺
Tracer has a gf
glacial zinc
Tracer has a gf
In hero roster
bleak shell
what abt bap x soldier
nee
rain coral
did soldier have a crush on gabriel
tepid lion
In hero roster
She didnt say that
rain coral
Tracer has a gf
ikk
glacial zinc
did soldier have a crush on gabriel
No
rain coral
i love how they included emily in questwatch
hollow tinsel
Soldier hates reaper
tepid lion
Isnt Liveweaver/Bap canon since the pride event
rain coral
Soldier hates reaper
i thought they used to be best friends tho
glacial zinc
Isnt Liveweaver/Bap canon since the pride event
No don’t think so
rain coral
Isnt Liveweaver/Bap canon since the pride event
i think the only canon thing is that they’re both gay
pan and bi
glacial zinc
i think the only canon thing is that they’re both gay
Nope neither are gay
Yes pan and bi
rain coral
Nope neither are gay
they are gay
rare trail
bap is bi and lifeweaver is pan so they could date and they do have flirty voicelines but theyve never met
glacial zinc
Not gay
hollow tinsel
i thought they used to be best friends tho
They used to work together and were kinda friends. Now they hate eachother
rare trail
both of htem like men though
hollow tinsel
Anyways reaper has a wife
tepid lion
Bro is this emoji 🤓
glacial zinc
Anyways reaper has a wife
Used to
rain coral
Bro is this emoji 🤓
someone had to say it
hollow tinsel
Oh yea
glacial zinc
gay can be used as an umbrella term
Ok
tepid lion
someone had to say it
Ye
glacial zinc
yeah might wanna spend time doing research on gay lore now brumblebee
Googling gay lore rn
tepid lion
"OW Gay Lore"
rain coral
Googling gay lore rn
🫡
glacial zinc
"OW Gay Lore"
“OW Gay”
peak escarp
what's the question?
rain coral
do u own all the bee skins @glacial zinc
glacial zinc
do u own all the bee skins <@849105522820775957>
Want to, I want to, but I’d dislike playing all characters with bee skins
Give Ana or Bap a bee skin and 💰
rain coral
U DONT LIKE BALL?
tepid lion
Ball Bee Skind
glacial zinc
U DONT LIKE BALL?
Nah
rain coral
or mercy
glacial zinc
I play support mainly
rain coral
i guess mercy isn’t that fun to play as really sometimes
bap and ana are more dps
ish
and zen
omg
glacial zinc
bap and ana are more dps
Still main healers
rain coral
yeah
peak escarp
keep on topic please
glacial zinc
keep on topic please
In lore most of the in game supports are dps level fighters
rain coral
Just realized support is dps with healing potential
yeah ppl are really technical when it comes to using support and healer interchangeably
rain coral
keep on topic please
sorry lol
glacial zinc
yeah ppl are really technical when it comes to using support and healer intercha...
Shh
peak escarp
canonically, Lucio cannot heal
rain coral
HUH
golden oak
Or zen
glacial zinc
canonically, Lucio cannot heal
Ye
peak escarp
Ana and Brigitte just know first aid
rain coral
this is ruining the game for me
peak escarp
Baptise and Mercy have actual medical training
glacial zinc
Ana and Brigitte just know first aid
No Ana’s sniper has special ammo she can switch to
glacial zinc
Zenyatta and Lifeweaver had their healing tech
His balls ain’t canon 😞
rain coral
His balls ain’t canon 😞
ur joe king
rain coral
do u know anything abt symmetra
glacial zinc
do u know anything abt symmetra
She has Autism
rain coral
She has Autism
yeah that’s all i know
isn’t that why she’s obsessed with perfection
kind of
glacial zinc
Kinda
Also it was drilled in her brain
There’s a comic panel of her repeating the words “it’s for the greater good” or something over and over
peak escarp
she grew up poor and was scouted by Vishkar for her talent at hardlight manipulation
now she's their top agent
rain coral
what’s vishkar
glacial zinc
Architect company
rain coral
bruh
glacial zinc
Also she helped rebuild a statue of Aurora with light at Zenyattas monk place
glacial zinc
A BAD architect company
rain coral
so she’s evil
glacial zinc
They do bad things and forces Lucios dad to make sound tech
peak escarp
just standard corporate corruption
glacial zinc
Or the academy
glacial zinc
just standard corporate corruption
Ye
Then he made bio light and left
And Vyshaker sent hitmen after him I think
Also something worse than hitmen
LAWYERS
peak escarp
they want their technology back
glacial zinc
they want their technology back
He made it using company time on company grounds
It’s fair
glacial zinc
Ye, can’t wait for Vyshkar to make a deal with Talon
golden oak
Zenyatta and Lifeweaver had their healing tech
What tech zen has
peak escarp
it isn't explained
but he is able to heal using some kind of tech he gets from the Iris
glacial zinc
but he is able to heal using some kind of tech he gets from the Iris
The iris really be handing out medkits
wind wind
A comic, he was very skilled
like if you were to say
was he more skilled then someone like soilder
or lower levels
uneven tulip
Question: Would Winston technically be the second most op character lore wise right behind Sigma since he crush both reaper and doomfist?
tepid lion
Question: Would Winston technically be the second most op character lore wise ri...
not sure how rammatra is on the power scale here
peak escarp
Winston is the strongest with confirmed feats
rain coral
does sombra have a origin animation story
peak escarp
Sigma and Symmetra are speculated to be stronger
bleak shell
does mercy rlly not age
Mercy does age. Not slowly nor fast. Mercy ages normally.
peak escarp
is tiktok spreading lies again?
bleak shell
I don't have Tiktok..so
peak escarp
I don't mean you
bleak shell
i know just saying
peak escarp
just a few people have been asking about Mercy's aging lately
I wonder if someone on tiktok said she doesn't age
bleak shell
Possibly...yet it can also be a YouTuber as well
bleak shell
Yeah, Tiktok is well known for people sharing Misinformation about stuff and lore.
rain coral
Possibly...yet it can also be a YouTuber as well
yep
wind wind
Sigma and Symmetra are speculated to be stronger
REALLY SYM?
merry token
REALLY SYM?
She can make almost anything from hardlight, yeah
peak escarp
yep
wind wind
She can make almost anything from hardlight, yeah
so a question then
when echo makes things like her highlight or her emotes whats that and is it real?
uneven tulip
not sure how rammatra is on the power scale here
Never mentioned Ramm and he has no powerscaling feats
glacial zinc
like if you were to say
Less skilled than soldier, but he can survive like them both
glacial zinc
https://youtu.be/vHHjdKMH7_w
Who’s the woman that noticed her?
peak escarp
what woman?
merry token
0:49-0:50?
glacial zinc
When she got noticed and the screen turned red
tall lotus
I don’t understand how its said that theres no magic in overwatch and everything can be explained by science or technology but hanzo kiriko and genji have their abilities
glacial zinc
It would be cool if we got more Sombra lore
tall lotus
fr
glacial zinc
I wanna know who the eye is
tall lotus
id say shes one of the most powerful in lore not because of strength or anything but because of her knowledge and manipulation and hacking abilities
peak escarp
but the hacking only works on computers
so she can't do anything to someone like Reaper or Winston
tall lotus
Yea but the information she can get and she has
Using blackmail and other techniques makes her a powerful enemy and not someone you would want to go against
glacial zinc
Some say it’s a god ai
Like Anubis
Did some research
Lots of people think it’s The Iris
Idk why
tall lotus
couldnt sombra make her own army of omnics if she just hacked a bunch of them
glacial zinc
couldnt sombra make her own army of omnics if she just hacked a bunch of them
She more, breaks them
tall lotus
She more, breaks them
True but i feel like she could control them
because in the infiltration cinematic she controls a giant hand thingy to lift her up
wind wind
but the hacking only works on computers
Is emp canon?
glacial zinc
because in the infiltration cinematic she controls a giant hand thingy to lift h...
Sentient omnics or worker omnics, because that was a robot without sentience
peak escarp
weapon—concurrent waves of purple light burst from her body in a wide crescent,
rippling down the hallway in an explosion of violet. The troopers stopped cold,
jostling their rifles as they pulled the triggers in vain.```What is this from
peak escarp
Code of Violence, page 14
glacial zinc
Damnnnn
wind wind
```Sombra’s eyes collapsed into a tight squint as she activated some sort of
wea...
Could or has sombra hacked echo? ever in lore
I know theres voicelines of it
peak escarp
no
tall lotus
Could or has sombra hacked echo? ever in lore
echo is way to advanced
glacial zinc
Echo has at least five firewalls
Sombra got the first four but struggled with the fifth
tall lotus
I feel like in the story mode sombras gonna send overwatch information about talon and help them take talon down idk why i think this i just do because sombras not really a fully committed member of talon
sonic vale
Do any heroes use hard light and it’s variations other than LW, Sym and Lucio?
peak escarp
yes
past copper
Anyone else hope for more of these skins to show up
Didn’t know Ana would get one. So that kinda blows my story related skin theory out
Unless that hints at Ana, and possibly Jack, being included in the story
Probably won’t find out unless Portugal gets a story mission
Since there’s something there that involves Ana
limpid agate
It was speculated to be linked to Antarctica
Where it is believed that Rammatra's omnium is based
vapid tusk
I feel like in the story mode sombras gonna send overwatch information about tal...
that's probably only gonna happen if OW makes a deal that greatly benefits Sombra
vapid tusk
so she can't do anything to someone like Reaper or Winston
can she shut down any omnic?
peak escarp
yes
peak escarp
Since there’s something there that involves Ana
what's in Portugal that links to Ana?
rare trail
why didn’t sombra hack mondotta and kill him instead of widow shooting him
widows thing seems much more risky
peak escarp
they wanted his assassination to be a big public event
ivory garnet
widow is better at assassinations I’d assume aswell
vapid tusk
they probably wanted someone reliable to do the job
wind portal
Sombra is better at assassinations but widowmaker is good at making them more pronounced
wind portal
why didn’t sombra hack mondotta and kill him instead of widow shooting him
you can bring a hacked omnic back to life, you can't save him from a headshot bullet however
past copper
what's in Portugal that links to Ana?
Wasn’t there something about Ana being in Esperança? I don’t remember
Oh wait. That wasn’t Esperança
hoary pike
ive been kicked from the game twice
they need to get this ddossing figured out
and stop banning people fro it happening to them
im banned for an hour now
marsh sparrow
Lore is
desert yacht
yes
is it confirmed from hero of numbani or the rein/orisa interaction in-game or both
golden oak
when echo makes things like her highlight or her emotes whats that and is it rea...
Echo ultimate isnt canon for sure
golden oak
you can bring a hacked omnic back to life, you can't save him from a headshot bu...
Btw do we know what the null sector is doing with the omnics in the new story missions
I mean the purple spikes on the head
bleak shell
Btw do we know what the null sector is doing with the omnics in the new story mi...
Not Sure but I'm guessing Ramattra going to control them to attack humans.
hollow tinsel
REINHARDT WITH A BEANIE OMG
wind wind
do we have the fight between doomfist and orsia? when she drove him out
glacial zinc
Anyone else hope for more of these skins to show up
Where is Mei polar skin
glacial zinc
Sombra is better at assassinations but widowmaker is good at making them more pr...
The only assasination we’ve seen (I think) she’s botched and blackmailed them instead
hollow tinsel
@peak escarp how do we get the lore regular role?
limpid agate
I used to give it out manually
I dont/cant do that anymore.
It was also created before the current regular system was made, as it used to be much more exclusive, and its purpose was to give image perms in this channel to people who were regulars to this channel.
Nowadays its just an antique
marsh sparrow
I used to give it out manually
What are you blabbering on about
limpid agate
I was answering the person who asked the question immediately above that...
peak escarp
What are you blabbering on about
Taiga is a former mod
marsh sparrow
Taiga is a former mod
👍
golden oak
Where is Mei polar skin
Default
bronze crow
Anyone else hope for more of these skins to show up
yeah those are dope
astral acorn
Ohh yea a
desert yacht
Not Sure but I'm guessing Ramattra going to control them to attack humans.
wdym by control
control as in how a general controls their army or control as in physically control them
like their programming
bleak shell
wdym by control
Someone asked what the spike things are on the omics head in the upcoming Invasion story. I'm only guessing it's for controlling them almost like a Hivemind. Like I said I'm only guessing its what that is for.
desert yacht
that seems extremely out of character for rammatra
bleak shell
that seems extremely out of character for rammatra
Well, not really if you think about it. Remmatra has a hatred for Humans. Seeing his People suffer. Obviously, he won't get the Omnics to turn on Humans so what better way is there to get Omnics to fight for him. By controlling them against their own will.
desert yacht
Well, not really if you think about it. Remmatra has a hatred for Humans. Seeing...
he has expressed multiple times very sincerely that he cares deeply for the treatment of his people and wants them to be treated as people and not like machines
why on earth would he turn around and treat them like machines to accomplish that goal
bleak shell
I'm only guessing. Why else would he capture them as seen in the trailer then
desert yacht
I’ll go look at it in a bit to see the context
past copper
Where is Mei polar skin
I mean... we don't know who all are getting polar skins
It's hinted that they are for Overwatch for a future story mission
In Antarctica
golden oak
Anyone else hope for more of these skins to show up
Hell no, they’re lazy recolours sold as legendaries
past copper
Hell no, they’re lazy recolours sold as legendaries
Well guess we know who the blind guy is around here
golden oak
While they should be epics
past copper
How are they recolors? Literally no other skins look like them
golden oak
They look too close to original
past copper
No they don't. Not even a little
golden oak
but they're new models, which means they are legendary quality
Barely
I feel like they should be epics tho
peak escarp
regardless of your opinion
golden oak
Mercy one looks identical like the ow2 skin
peak escarp
they might not all be legendary
golden oak
Also bap
peak escarp
the Ana one is an epic
golden oak
I’m pretty sure sojourn was an legendary
But shouldn’t be imo
Since it looks VERY similar to original
bleak shell
The Small difference, if you can really call it a difference. Is that Mercy's Polar skin, Her Halo is designed to look like Winter Ear Muffs. But other than that there isn't really much else of a difference to her Default Overwatch 2 Skin.
worthy rose
Skin grades in Overwatch 2 is based off of their price and not how they look
(mostly)
peak escarp
I'd say they're mostly the same rules as OW1
retexture with new head mesh = epic
new body mesh = legendary
there have only been a couple that break that rule
and one was a crossover skin
uncut hawk
which golden gun should i get
bronze orchid
which golden gun should i get
Mei 😍
astral acorn
Yo
crimson badger
hello
twilit patrol
!!loreonly @uncut hawk
twilit nacelleBOT
@uncut hawk This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
uncut hawk
what is lore.
bleak shell
what is lore.
Lore is like the story, History, and events that take place in the Overwatch game.
uncut hawk
ohhhh
glacial zinc
Which Doomfist is the strongest?
tepid lion
Think they are equaliy strong bot have other fighting styles
And different motivations of course
glacial zinc
Didn’t the second Doomfist demolish cities with ease
tepid lion
Didn’t the second Doomfist demolish cities with ease
im not doubting that the current doomfist can
I think current doomfist is still too "young" in his role to unlock his full potential
past copper
The current Doom is anything but young
He trained under the previous Doomfist
He was well trained before he ever met Doomfist
merry token
Yah, he’s been a master of martial arts since he was young
past copper
But from him he learned the skills he required to lead Talon and take them as far as they've come now
And he even killed the previous Doomfist and claimed his title
I'd say Akande is beyond the young student he once was
peak escarp
Akande is 45 and has been in the role of Doomfist since he was around 37
past copper
However, he has room to grow in strength and power
No doubt his encounter in Numbani was a wakeup call to where he stands against new heroes
vapid tusk
There needs to be more hanzo lore
peak escarp
he has a short story coming
where he fights Null Sector in Tokyo with an old friend (implied to be Kiriko)
vapid tusk
Can’t wait
lusty escarp
Hi
hollow tinsel
Hello welcome to lore
subtle yew
@tardy sonnet
tame garden
Who is pharahs mom
merry token
Ana amari
tame garden
Why is hog so fat if he's a human
rain coral
Why is hog so fat if he's a human
too many dumplings
tall lotus
I still dont get how its said theres no magic in overwatch but kiriko genji and hanzo have their abilities
limpid agate
Genji and Hanzo were explainable with the information we had at the time
But its now retconned to just be magic
silk frost
Genji and Hanzo were explainable with the information we had at the time
what was the original explanation?
limpid agate
Hanzo's dragons behaved and appeared identically to Symmetra's hard light.
peak escarp
what was the original explanation?
there wasn't an official explanation, only fan theories
limpid agate
Like I said
They were explainable
The official explanation was they were not magic.
peak escarp
seems so
the dragons were called "spirit dragons" from the start, so I don't think it was a retcon - the devs just didn't count spirits as magic
vapid tusk
what's a retcon
peak escarp
it's short for retroactive continuity - it's a change in the story that affects previous information
limpid agate
I'd argue it is a retcon. Considering the team back then was a team that worked on one of their other magical universes before Overwatch
Where spirits are magic
Also they use the word magic for Kiriko's spirit shit
So
Either they considered spirits magic, and they retconned the Shimadas into being magic
Or they did not consider spirits magic, and they retconned the spirits into being magic
Either way, its a retcon
past copper
Either way, didn’t seem the team was on the same page
Until Kiriko was released and suddenly magic
high nova
i don't know how doom got himself beaten like that from an intelligent ape
Me personally i would've just won
grand wedge
Considering the pure strenght of an adult male gorilla…. You wouldn’t
wispy bison
wish i had the perms to react with a nerd emoji manee
tepid lion
Yah, he’s been a master of martial arts since he was young
But he doesnt have the gauntlet for that long
twilit patrol
i don't know how doom got himself beaten like that from an intelligent ape
Me pe...
Because it’s a intelligent ape in face
tepid lion
maybe the "role" change can be considered as him switiching upo his fighting style
golden oak
Is kiriko like a medium?
tepid lion
Well sigma can basicaly manipulate gravity
shadow marsh
Dues ex machina
tepid lion
If it has sth to do with the experiments that would mean Hammond has a primal rage too
hollow tinsel
I would love to see that lol
Maybe in his "hard carry" highlight intro he's using his primal rage
viscid flame
Considering the pure strenght of an adult male gorilla…. You wouldn’t
Agreed. The average Lowland Gorilla is over 400 pounds
Winston is far larger than any Gorilla in existence. He's about as big as a Gigantopithecus and would be heavier then all the fossilized individuals we've recovered. Winston is likely 800-1,000 pounds, he would be able to flatten any un-enhanced person with a half-hearted punch
Let alone the Jetpack sending him flying towards ya. And we don't know how much the genetic tampering increased his strength and durability, considering he woke up after being punched a football field away by Doom with little struggle, he's mighty durable
honest spear
Is kiriko like a medium?
Seems like a size small to me idk
tall lotus
Sigma got his abilities from an experiment that went wrong because he was experimenting with black holes and stuff
vague heron
Sigma got his abilities from an experiment that went wrong because he was experi...
Unrealistic
But I guess we dont care
After all its all purely fiction
So we can let that slide
past copper
Unrealistic
Unrealistic. Yes. Because we know EVERYTHING about black holes
peak escarp
well it is science fiction
past copper
True. But it is still a fact we know very little about black holes
The only clear and solid fact we know is that they are the most destructive force in the known universe
And yet, scientists are actually developing technology to create miniature black holes on Earth
hollow tinsel
!!loreonly
twilit nacelleBOT
This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
past copper
!!loreonly
Who are you addressing?
hollow tinsel
I was just messing with you since you're talking about real life and not lore. Just a joke tho
past copper
Overwatch has stuff literally based on technology being developed in real life
past copper
Heck Sigma is a prime example of what technology/forces we shouldn’t f**k around with
glacial zinc
Heck Sigma is a prime example of what technology/forces we shouldn’t f**k around...
fr
past copper
Yet, again, scientists do just that. Sigh Einstein and Oppenheimer would be rolling in their graves
frank furnace
I just want to know this, does Roadhog really hate Junkrat
hollow tinsel
Nah I think they're friends
fallen spade
hog loves junkrat 🥰
granite patio
best food in the world dude
merry token
can a console player play with a pc player?
This is a lore only channel, but yes, pc can play with console expect for in competitive
worthy rose
guys who would win goku or lore accurate widowmaker
lore
accurate
so like more discussion
ok
goku solos
past copper
Nobody gives a crap about a space monkey superman rip off
lost beacon
how old is winston
peak escarp
he's 29
keen summit
best food in the world dude
well thats not really, like for the hero
stuck mist
Damn ball is a minor 😧
worthy rose
Damn ball is a minor 😧
miner
shy steeple
are we not gonna talk about how Genji in the dragons animation doesn't show us his face? cuz im kinda curious
opaque tundra
They teased his helmet less face in Loverwatch too and didn’t show us. The devs are trolling us. I’m sure we’ll see it someday
final atlas
Doomfist is hammonds father
twilit patrol
Doomfist is hammonds father
No
twilit patrol
!!shitposting
twilit nacelleBOT
Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
worthy rose
Anyone thought about how Doomfist could
spice reef
Symmetra age pls
peak escarp
28
granite patio
well thats not really, like for the hero
Maybe she can make some fire ass ceviche
worthy rose
Anyone thought about how Doomfist could
and how he could also
worthy rose
and how he could also
Nah because if you think about it he could
worthy rose
Nah because if you think about it he could
brooo, and he could probably
worthy rose
who win goku or lore accurate sym
peak escarp
Symm
high saffron
How strong is lore accurate sym!?
tall lotus
This confused me because if the onmic crisis was 30 years ago ana would be 30 but that would make widow 3 and Gerard was apart of overwatch during the omnic crisis and married to widow so how does it work