lore-discussion

[wind portal]

omnics are smarter than humans, they're not limited by the human brain

[worthy rose]

I disagree

[wind portal]

so you think a computer 'brain' is not as smart as a human brain?

[worthy rose]

Correct

[rare trail]

omnics arent really computer brains either

like theyre sentient

[wind portal]

Simply not true, we know Omnics are smart enough to adapt at a quicker pace than humans (ie, gwishin omnics), and they're fully capable of learning on their own at a faster pace than humans

[worthy rose]

I disagree

[wind portal]

remember, D.va struggled in the cinematic to fight the gwishin omnics since they were adapting and countering her strategies, and we can confirm that they've gotten smarter

[rare trail]

what makes you think omnics arent as smart as humans?

[wind portal]

I hope it's not the whole notion of humans being alive and omnics aren't 'alive'

[worthy rose]

because they are not as smart as me and im human

[wind portal]

So you're trolling

[rare trail]

why do you think that?

[wind portal]

got it

[worthy rose]

i do not troll.

[worthy rose]

They arent alive btw

they were created by humans and can be destroyed by humans

[wind portal]

yes but omnics are generally stronger than humans

[rare trail]

sentient omnics werent really created by humans

[wind portal]

even ones with no combat experience have been seen restraining humans

[rare trail]

sentient omnics were created by aurora

[worthy rose]

not vs me

[rare trail]

yeah i think soldier is just trolling

[wind portal]

and also, most omnics were made in an omnium

not created by humans

[worthy rose]

I do not troll. Im serious.

[wind portal]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[rare trail]

yeah like bastion wasnt made by humans and on top of that sentience wasnt granted by humans

[worthy rose]

i simply do not believe omnics are better than humans and never will

[worthy rose]

I know of the rules and im not breaking any of them

[wind portal]

when we have all the evidence to suggest otherwise

[worthy rose]

This is a civil discussion

[rare trail]

how long ago did bastion wake up?

[wind portal]

Unless you want to make a clear cut argument and not just use you as an example omnics are generally smarter than huamns

[worthy rose]

Am i not human

[wind portal]

I think it was.... 5 years or so?

[wind portal]

Not the point I'm trying to make

[worthy rose]

Silence.

[rare trail]

as of ow1?

[wind portal]

I think as of the bastion cinematic but it might be sooner or later

[rare trail]

so bio says bastion was forgotten for over a decade

and it says he was severely damaged in one of the final battles of the war

[wind portal]

so he was probably asleep atleast 12 years prior to waking up

[rare trail]

how long ago did the omnic crisis end?

like 15 years ago?

or no

20?

ok so yeah 5 years ago sounds right

wait

no

lore doc's lore doc says bastion woke up 15 years ago

hmm

that doesnt exactly make sense because bio says over a decade and the last battles of the war

so if the war ended 25 years ago bastion would've had to wake up 14 years ago or less given the over a decade line

or its a minor mistake in a bio

[peak escarp]

the omnic crisis was 30 years ago

[keen summit]

So real shit, do we have anything on peru

Like

[limpid agate]

The upcoming hero is Peruvian

That's it

[keen summit]

Wow

[past copper]

Given the background tho

Could be a new map at some point in game

Or it could hint at something like the ruins are being inhabited again

Bc you never know. With technology in OW, ancient places very well could be restored and habitable again

[keen summit]

Ehhhh

It could be

But it could also just be a background

[mellow stratus]

In 1993

[twilit patrol]

Exactly Winton

[hollow eagle]

Why is Winston called Winton, whats the reverence

[worldly obsidian]

just a meme

[hollow eagle]

[worldly obsidian]

or maybe that's his real name

[solemn nebula]

WINTON OVERWAT!!

IM UR BIGGEST FAN

[fossil notch]

I never understood if Ana stole mercy’s gun of just stole the technology to MAKE the gun

For her sniper

[peak escarp]

it wasn't stolen

[fossil notch]

But mercy has a voiceline that goes smth “ I don’t like that you took my bionic stuff and did this “ I assumed she meant stealing

[peak escarp]

Torbjorn used it to design Ana's rifle

Mercy gave him permission to use it, but didn't like that the weapon could be used offensively

[fossil notch]

Oh I see, but it also makes no sense since the rifle itself does damage enemies by default ?

Or is that gameplay ?

[rare trail]

in lore she loads different rounds

so like if shes going to shoot an enemy she'll load a hurting round vs teammate where she'll load a biotic round

its shown well in old soldiers

[fossil notch]

And that makes so much sense nowww

because even in her backstory, the video, showing her past, she’s using her rifle but she’s using it to shoot widow so I didn’t understand

[peak escarp]

that wasn't this rifle

that was a Kinamura rifle

an actual rifle

the healing dart rifle was made much later

[mellow stratus]

I know that

[silent pelican]

Anyone wanna duo or trio? Plat flex player

[rare trail]

!!lfg

[twilit nacelle]

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[golden oak]

Btw is mercy pistol canon?

And I’m assuming if it is then it’s purely for self defence and not as offence since she doesn’t want to do harm right?

[peak escarp]

yes

[rare trail]

talon

[lavish vessel]

Doomfist, widowmaker, reaper, sombra I’m pretty sure, moira. And ramattra is linked to them

[rare trail]

baptiste is an ex member

he is a member but he doesnt really know about what they do

he also doesnt fight for them and is just doing research

[lavish vessel]

Oh yeah my bad forgot about those two lol

[rare trail]

a somewhat common misconception is that cass and genji were in talon but they werent they were just in blackwatch

[golden oak]

He’s in the talon council but the leader is doomfist, not him

[rare trail]

sanjay and maximilien are also members of the council

[golden oak]

They were both criminals in the past so I guess that’s why someone might mistake that

[golden oak]

And moira

[viscid roost]

Any one wants to play rank?

[golden oak]

Wrong channel I’m afraid

[rare trail]

!!lfg

[twilit nacelle]

LOOKING FOR GROUP

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[golden oak]

Make conflicts in the world

[hollow tinsel]

To make it evolve tho

[lime pulsar]

Ramattra is right

[vocal zinc]

How many characters could the TF2 spy kill with his sapper?

[iron plume]

Start the war between humans and omnics again. The specific reasons vary

Doomfist thinks humanity will respond with new tech/development/whatever and become stronger

Maximillien thinks it'll make him money
Moira wants it for the freedom to develop her tech without ethical restrictions

Reaper is sorta with DF philosophically but he also just hates Overwatch

Sombra's using them for her own thing and they're fine with it because she's still useful

[iron plume]

In case this is a serious question, maybe bastion?

Orisa and Echo are more high tech than that
Sombra's hacks and EMP are likely more powerful than sapper tech and it just knocks them out, even in pve

Really though it's a bit pointless since the universes have very different power scaling

TF2's mercs are very competent but ultimately baseline humans, OW's are basically superheroes all throughout the rosteer

/villains

[wind portal]

From what we know of TF2, the only 'super-humans' in TF2 are Scout and Medic, the rest are just really smart or have some level of high-tech gear

I doubt Spy would be able to kill anyone in OW considering his nature

[keen summit]

Its creating conflict for evolution rn

It depends on the leader as before doom got back it was money focussed

We dont know sanjay's reason yet. My personal theory us that he too believes the world will become better because of it or well vishkar thinks it. Making them truly believe theyre creating a better world, by making everyone rely on their "ideal world" and tech. With lw i think its even mkre likely that they want an actual better world, an ideal one with no imperfections

How do you create that? By making a blank slate basically

[tacit venture]

the lore behind the overwatch developers -
so in all honesty. The people currently in control of the game are hamsters. Overwatch HQ is just completely taken over by Hammond, thousands, and ten thousands of hamsters creating a game that could have so much potential

[sacred sapphire]

How does one learn lore

[uneven tulip]

the wiki is your best bet

[gray kayak]

Check the pinned messages in this channel as well. Plenty of great resource links.

[gaunt grail]

@rose pelican

[rose pelican]

LORE!

[gaunt grail]

Erm..... Sigma would be so op if he was lore canon.

[twilit patrol]

He probably would be the most powerful

[rose pelican]

what does this mean

ecplain to me the whole lore im so interested

[twilit patrol]

Huh it's very long

[rose pelican]

please?

[twilit patrol]

Look the pinned messages and you'll find a Google Doc with the whole lore (made by Doctor_Six)

[peak escarp]

!!loreguide

[twilit nacelle]

This is a guide for people who don't know where to begin with the lore of Overwatch. The first thing is probably to go watch the shorts. They're popular, easy to consume, and pack a lot of story and character.
Shorts Playlist: https://bit.ly/2UQyTeL

There are many comics, short stories, and blog posts as well. The most important ones are:
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
Stone By Stone: https://bit.ly/36EsPul

Also important for Overwatch 2 is Cassidy's comic series, New Blood:
#1: https://bit.ly/3wJqcnL
#2: https://bit.ly/3ejXkd0
#3: https://bit.ly/3fbBwB3
#4: https://bit.ly/3B9zLOE
#5: https://bit.ly/3iaM0lB

There is also an important chain of events following Ana and Soldier 76 (and Mercy at the end):
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE

The rest of the stories are mostly optional. Special mention goes out to the Junkers, who have an entertaining string of stories:
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
A Moment in Crime: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC

[gaunt grail]

Thanks

[marsh sparrow]

Is it cannon ana is had an affair

[peak escarp]

no

[marsh sparrow]

🤔

[marsh sparrow]

😡

[peak escarp]

why would you think that?

[marsh sparrow]

Because of rein

[stuck stump]

wanted to say that the community appreciates all the work you've done for us, doctor six

[marsh sparrow]

She was flirting with him i think

[peak escarp]

they've never confirmed anything between them

it's just flirting

[marsh sparrow]

Thanks

[peak escarp]

good

[worthy rose]

I love Sombra and her story so much

[tepid lion]

I woudl love to hear more about her mischief in the war

[hallow dome]

Guys why did Widow and Reaper need to steal Doomfist's gauntlet even though he has two different gauntlets as seen with the two canon skins - Talon and Formal

[peak escarp]

just because the outfit is canon doesn't mean he has multiple gauntlets

[tepid lion]

I mean they couldve tried to steal it for just some talon dude and not the doomfist we know hence doomfist is only named by the weilder and not a single person

[hallow dome]

Doesnt that make just anyone Doomfist then

[tepid lion]

Anyone who wields the gauntlet yes

as seen in the 3 Banners

[hallow dome]

I thought it was a passed down role, not just anyone with a gauntlet

[tepid lion]

With THE Gauntlet

[hallow dome]

I know that other guy said there arent necessarily other gauntlets, but I'd argue the Formal skin appearing in cinematics says otherwise

[tepid lion]

Adhabu was the inventor of the Doomfist name. He was probably a very strong guy who created a regular gauntlet with no powers, but it just hepled him hit harder. As we could read in Akande's story, he became Doomfist after defeating Adeyemi. So I think Adeyemi defeated Adhabu and took for him the name of Doomfist, kinda like a reward, and constructed a better gauntlet for him. So, the Doomfist wouldn't be the one that holds "the" gauntlet, but someone who defeated a Doomfist and now holds a gauntlet. Or maybe better: when Adeyemi defeated Adhabu, he could already have his gauntlet and just took the name as a reward.

[hallow dome]

Not to sound rude, but I know all that - my original query was on how there are at least two Gauntlets

[tepid lion]

Itss not eniterly clear, but i dont think most skins fit into the cannon

I think its 1 Gauntlet, and it keeps getting improved

[hallow dome]

Formal was in that one archives mission and the ow2 gameplay trailer

[peak zenith]

so what is overwatch’s regular gameplay lorewise? like a training simulation overwatch agents use to spar against each other?

[tepid lion]

Could be some VR thing by athena?

[peak zenith]

yes athena is the reason why i thought that in the first place

so seems likely

[tepid lion]

other than the spike plates it doesnt look that different

[tepid lion]

I guess the canon would be Overwatch vs Talon but that wouldnt do it i guess

It would be possible to do a "Overwratch" vs "Talon" team

[peak escarp]

the gameplay doesn't exist in the lore

[peak zenith]

but then you have Overwatch members Brig and Rein interacting with Talon members and other foul players Moira and Widowmaker in ways like “I can’t believe i have to work with criminals”

[peak escarp]

the voice lines are hypothetical

those heroes have never met, but if they did meet, here's what they might say

[peak zenith]

i guess the only thing left to ask if where you get this information from

and i have to ask because it all being just.. hypothetical... is so anticlimactic

a perpetual VR training exercise supervised by Athena AI sounds better

lol!

[tepid lion]

The canon could be Talon and Overwatch working together against the new Uprising? Thats why those Voicelines Could exist

[peak escarp]

from the writers

they've answered this question

I can't remember exactly where, but it was probably in a reddit AMA

[peak zenith]

[round sand]

penutbutter

[rare trail]

i dont think in canon theres multiple gauntlets when we do see formal skin in the cutscene from storm rising he doesnt have a gauntlet

[merry token]

Winton faveotrite food

[shadow marsh]

His Talon skin counts, right? There's an image of him with that outfit, an image where he's about to kill Adeyemi

[rare trail]

yeah talon is canon iirc

[shadow marsh]

Not surprised there are more than one gauntlet, but personally I like the Talon design

[rare trail]

wait which image?

[peak escarp]

Akande was being trained as Akinjide's successor, so it would make sense that he would train using a gauntlet like his

[rare trail]

yeah

i assume that gauntlet was either destroyed or weaker than the real doomfist weapon though

[astral acorn]

Yes

[burnt warren]

Whos the third lesbian they added

[merry token]

There’s only two canon ones

Pharah and Tracer

[burnt warren]

Didnt they add a new one

I saw it on tiktok

[merry token]

No

They’re adding a new support character though

[burnt warren]

Maybe I was wrong

Oo whar support

[merry token]

https://twitter.com/PlayOverwatch/status/1667952644646916096?cxt=HHwWgMDS5fqF4aUuAAAA

Overwatch (@PlayOverwatch)

That was a first look at the new Support hero at the end, btw 👀

Likes

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Retweets

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Twitter · Jun 11, 2023, 5:51 PM

[burnt warren]

Thank you

[short fern]

desperatley need 1 bronze or silver player

need 1 silver bronze player for team dm me asap

[carmine remnant]

Why bronze or silver lmao

[vocal marsh]

Maybe they’re Bronze so can’t play with gold but I don’t remember how it works

[carmine remnant]

Ah that sucks

My tank is silver and my dps is bronze but my support is plat

[vocal marsh]

Same but with silver DPS

[misty dagger]

Guys I have a question

[carmine remnant]

Que

[misty dagger]

Did Ramattra joined Talon from the request of Doomfist? Or is he still his own thing with Null Sector but while joining forces with Talon?

[peak escarp]

https://youtu.be/6KbDuCl0YEU?t=205

you can see Ramattra approaching Doomfist in the end cutscene of Storm Rising

he went looking for Doomfist as an ally on his own initiative, hoping to use Talon's influence and resources to back his push for omnic equality

he's still the leader of Null Sector, just allied with Talon for the moment

[misty dagger]

Alright thank you, kind lord. 🙏

[peak escarp]

[fresh rock]

You can see markings on their face, they are also most likely female.

But this one seems to be a newer face, not one we've seen before.

[placid vessel]

I feel like they’ll probably be native Americans

[keen summit]

shes from peru

its already known

[golden oak]

As if we didn’t know

[placid vessel]

Is that from the Peru map teaser thing?

[merry token]

Someone else was asking about it

[limpid agate]

Its not a map teaser. Its a hero teaser. Its also literally on the roadmap.

Its not like a, we speculate that maybe the hero is Peruvian

Blizz just straight told us on the Roadmap she's Peruvian

[placid vessel]

Ic ic

[fresh peak]

To me the hero looks solar themed and the gun reminds me of the beam rifle from halo so maybe it is like a solar beam weapon?

[marsh sparrow]

🐹

[modest mango]

lame if true

i want a sword

istg if they give this support the ability to reduce ability cooldowns/give free ult charge to teammates I'm gonna activate nuclear launch codes

[tepid lion]

maybe inspired by aztech su goods?

[peak escarp]

Symmetra is from Hyderabad

but we don't know the location of Utopaea, the city Vishkar built

the Vishkar Corporation of southern India

so southern India

[marsh sparrow]

Is cannon

[worthy rose]

are there any good videos on Ow lore?

[twilit patrol]

Excited for the news here ?

[hollow tinsel]

Huh

[rare trail]

what news?

[stuck stump]

[humble obsidian]

Does anyone mind watching over my tank game to help me reach diamond

[zenith nova]

No thanks u

[upbeat violet]

#1026927816626929736 maybe?

[minor imp]

🤓

[molten thicket]

an dey say

[worthy rose]

who is gay?

tracer

and soldier

right

[peak escarp]

Tracer and Pharah are lesbians
Soldier is gay
Baptiste is bisexual
Lifeweaver is pansexual

[molten thicket]

^

[zenith mango]

is there a thing between cass and sombra

[peak escarp]

nothing confirmed

[zenith mango]

i meant like

genji and mercy are not confirmed but there are hints to it

is cass and sombra sorta like that

[molten thicket]

no

but echo and cass is

[desert yacht]

I wouldn’t think so

[peak escarp]

Echo and Cassidy are friends

nothing else is confirmed

[desert yacht]

I didn’t really interpret it as flirty

more like playful siblings

[hollow tinsel]

Yes?

[molten thicket]

How he looked at her in the cinematic because he was remembering his old friend

He definitely had feelings for the scientist that echo adapted her personality and face from

[desert yacht]

if that’s your head canon then whatever but I think you’re over analyzing it

[lime pulsar]

Ramattra is right

[hollow tinsel]

TENYA IIDA FROM MHA OMG

[full summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9wd_2OhYeQ

[lime pulsar]

Yes I do voice acting

[lusty escarp]

Hi

[proven fox]

Who claps whose cheeks? (Incredibly serious)

[peak escarp]

...what

[ivory garnet]

maybe

but he also spent alot of time with Dr. Liao

and they undoubtedly grew a strong friendship

[eternal niche]

What if there was a 20 year time skip? how do you think it would affect the characters and world of overwatch?

[ivory garnet]

overwatch is legal again

[graceful hatch]

Would Ana be dead?

[ivory garnet]

most likely

due to natural causes

same with sigma and reinhardt

maybe Jack and Reaper

[peak escarp]

Ana would be 80

probably not dead

considering the advancements in medical technology, and the fact that even today living past 80 is common

[rare trail]

omnic rights would probably be better

[ivory garnet]

omnics have rights iirc

people are just racist towards them like some people are today

[rare trail]

idk they’re pretty segregated at least in kings row

[keen summit]

we barely know anything bout liao's relationship to the cast except that she was part of overwatch

[wind wind]

#antiomnics

[peak escarp]

omnics don't have rights

that's the problem

[rare trail]

there would also probably be significantly less omnics given they can’t reproduce

it’s probably that and a reference to the founding members of the deadlock gang bez ashe mcree and Frankie

[bleak shell]

I would always think Cassidy's belt says "Bad At Making Friends" 😂

Yep, Cassidy is one bad ass Mother F***er

😂

[bleak shell]

☺️

😘

xd

[peak escarp]

!!loreonly

[twilit nacelle]

This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[marsh sparrow]

🤓

[twilit patrol]

This is a channel with serious discussion with lore

[stuck stump]

Any new lore been revealed? I assume not, but

[twilit patrol]

I don't think so

[mellow stratus]

Maybe soon

[hollow tinsel]

Bro just 🤓ed a mod

[violet vector]

how old was bap when he was working w talon

[peak escarp]

late 20s probably

we dont know exactly

[violet vector]

alr thanks

[red ermine]

how long is the time skip between overwatch 1 and 2?

and why does tracer talk about someone nammed Emily

[peak escarp]

Emily is Tracer's girlfriend

we don't know how long the timeskip is

[stuck stump]

Are there any Omnics in Overwatch?

Like on the team

[peak escarp]

nope

Bastion will be the first

[upbeat violet]

what about echo?

she’s kind of an omnic in the more broad sense of the term

[zenith mango]

will be?

[twilit patrol]

Echo is a robot, not a omnic.

[wind wind]

oh thought she was a AI

[twilit patrol]

Echo own a AI highly advanced

[rare trail]

he was in a pve trailer with the overwatch team

same with lucio

[ivory garnet]

Bastion will be the first omnic in Overwatch

[peak escarp]

Bastion will join Overwatch in the story missions

[reef latch]

And she has studied everyone and probably copied her maker

[zenith mango]

she is her maker

in a sense

[peak escarp]

Echo is just mimicking Dr. Liao

[keen summit]

likely after gothenburg

[past copper]

More like during

[bleak shell]

Stupid Lore question but is it possible for Talon to also play a part in Invasion, considering that in the ending Cutscene of Storm Rising, we see Doomfist talking to Ramattra, saying that Ramattra's goal is doomed to fail without Talon's aid?

[shadow marsh]

Well yes, in the first trailer of overwatch 2(from years ago) Winston mentioned that other parts of the world are being attacked and it wasn't Null Sector, and this definitely implies Talon

[bleak shell]

Oh ok, I just watched the trailer you mentioned but I see it does imply that it is Talon but there are also references to Null Sector but the one from Uprising not the one from the upcoming Invasion. But I also read somewhere that "Talon would probably have used Null Sector to their own advantage. Null sector was an omnic terrorist group based solely in the U.K. who had an uprising of their own motives. They may have been aided by Talon in their uprising though."

[honest spear]

Can't wait for Ramattra to talk about equal rights and then kill a puppy for no reason so you know he's not the good guy

[ivory garnet]

Talon and Null Sector are affiliated with eachother

and we know we face Talon already

in the India mission with Zen

[glacial zinc]

For a bad guy he seems too good tbh

He’s supposed to be a menace

[jade chasm]

Make sigmas strength lore accurate in game💯💯

[ivory garnet]

no feats in lore so he’s weak in game

[peak escarp]

Ramattra doesn't have the resources for a global war on his own - the omnium he has access to can only produce outdated drones and they weren't even enough to beat Overwatch in the King's Row Uprising. With Talon's resources, he has a chance at succeeding.

[bleak shell]

Makes sense thank you so much. 🙏🏻

[uneven tulip]

I don't think Ramattra has any combat feats besides his suped up form so he would probably get his ass beat easily

Hell probably even Winston alone could beat him since he gave reaper a run for his money and clowned on doomfist

[tribal turret]

LORE: who the hell is this guy( ) and why is he here.

[ivory garnet]

he has 0 combat feats

nemesis form isnt shown

only his staff

[uneven tulip]

noted

it could be shown in the campaign as a final boss but idk

regardless, bro is getting smacked

[twilit patrol]

''final boss''

I wouldn't say that

[uneven tulip]

"it could"

[twilit patrol]

I know

[uneven tulip]

there's probably gonna be a secret third party involved

or just talon

[ivory garnet]

story will expand after Null Sector section

we still have other organizations to give the spotlight

[junior schooner]

Still waiting on how cass lost his arm

[quiet drift]

bold of you to assume we're getting a final boss anytime soon

[hollow tinsel]

We don't know

[twilit patrol]

That's why he said ''still waiting

[dull nebula]

Wait he did

[rare trail]

yeah

[dull nebula]

Oh

Nice

[rare trail]

you can see it well in deadeye animation

why are the pictures so tiny lol

[dull nebula]

Sry I just don play mckree

Or how ever u say his name

[gleaming topaz]

i wanna think he lost his arm then thought it was cool afterwards

[peak escarp]

Cassidy

[dull nebula]

On ow1 it was mckree

[peak escarp]

doesn't matter

his name changed

it's Cassidy now

[twilit patrol]

''Nice'' ?

[rare trail]

the in lore explanation is it was like an outlaw name and he used not use his real name

[fresh rock]

Cole Cassidy.

[twilit patrol]

Yes it's Cole Cassidy

[fresh rock]

Cole Cassidy.

[rare trail]

his real name is cassidy though

[fresh rock]

Cole Cassidy.

[dull nebula]

Y do ppl call him mckree if it’s no mckree

[fresh rock]

I just like saying his name.

It's... complicated.

[rare trail]

he was called mccree because he used to be named after a blizzard dev but that dev was uh problematic to say the least

[short bear]

Use to be his old name in OW1, but got changed due to shady Blizzard stuff so he's Cassidy now.

[dull nebula]

Oh thx 4that

[short bear]

Ofc. Stick to calling him Cassidy or Cass though to avoid any blegh topics

[bleak shell]

I thought Mcree's arm was torn off by BoB, because if you hear what Ashe says in the Overwatch Animated Short | “Reunion”. She says She'll rebuild BoB and have him rip off McCree 's other arm.

[short bear]

[peak escarp]

Bob didn't rip off Cassidy's arm

we don't know how he lost it

[rare trail]

im not sure when that would've happened because he has his arm in deadlock rebels

[dull nebula]

Ko what’s ur dps rank

[bleak shell]

Buy Ashe does say "And I'm going to have him rip off your other arm."

[peak escarp]

so?

that doesn't mean he ripped off the first one

[dull nebula]

Nice u smart

[peak escarp]

she wouldn't threaten to rip off an arm that's already missing

[short bear]

Plat 4, I don't play ranked all that much tho

This probably isn't the right place to talk about it tho

[dull nebula]

Ok

Sry

Lol just joined like 5 minutes ago

[short bear]

Dw about it

[peak escarp]

we're pretty strict about discussion topics on the serious discussion topics

if you want more freedom, go to #overwatch or #general-discussion

[dull nebula]

Sry plzzz don’t report me

[peak escarp]

you're fine

[dull nebula]

Sry

[peak escarp]

just know for the future

[dull nebula]

Thx

K

So what happened 2 genji y is he robot

I’m confused about that

[peak escarp]

he was almost killed by his brother Hanzo

[dull nebula]

Yes

[peak escarp]

if you want to know each hero's backstory, you can read their bios on their hero pages

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/heroes/

[dull nebula]

Thx

I’ll read that when I’m not busy

I needed that

Here’s what I got

Near death at the hands of his own brother, ninja Genji Shimada was rescued by Overwatch. To save his life, they made him a living weapon with cybernetic upgrades. Struggling with his nature and purpose after Overwatch’s fall, Genji sought peace through study with the omnic monk Zenyatta before answering Winston’s call.

[rare trail]

yeah thats pretty much all of it

although him being in blackwatch and not main overwatch is kinda big

[peak escarp]

he was in both

[dull nebula]

I don’t study this stuff mainly Greek mythology but this is pretty cool

[rare trail]

yeah i mistyped that i meant specifically right after overwatch saved him

[proven merlin]

there is lore in this game?

[dull nebula]

I thought blackwatch was bad guys

[dull nebula]

Yes

[proven merlin]

i thought i just got to shoot up ppl

alr

[peak escarp]

that's Talon

[dull nebula]

Oh

[peak escarp]

Blackwatch was a division of Overwatch that did shady things

so the main division could keep a clean image

[proven merlin]

so like Google's dark web?

[dull nebula]

Oh I’ll make my own blackwatch

[dull nebula]

No it’s just back story’s

[proven merlin]

oh

[dull nebula]

Lol I know I just joined 6mins ago

[proven merlin]

I'm just thinking about if they are hired mercs or not

[dull nebula]

I don’t know ask lore warlord

[proven merlin]

I've got google dw

[dull nebula]

Lol

[rare trail]

who? blackwatch?

[proven merlin]

no overwatch

[dull nebula]

Ye

Oh

[proven merlin]

just like the heros

you play as

[dull nebula]

Well no

[rare trail]

overwatch had more permanent agents

[proven merlin]

thinking some tf2

[dull nebula]

To lore u still here

[bleak shell]

Think of it like this Blackwatch is more about Covert Ops

[rare trail]

overwatch does hire peopleand they presumably get paid so

[proven merlin]

oh alr

[rare trail]

theyre kinda mercenaries

[dull nebula]

So many big words STOP THE BIG WORDS it hurts my head

[proven merlin]

i just think

I'm on this side

they on different side

i hate them

kill them

[dull nebula]

YES

[proven merlin]

red vs blu plot

[dull nebula]

no

[rare trail]

not quite

red vs blue is more like theyre fighting an endless war for no reason

[dull nebula]

Mine is black vs white

[rare trail]

overwatch lore is more like evil bad guys trying to start a massive war vs the good guys

[dull nebula]

No

[rare trail]

?

[dull nebula]

Me start war

Not them

It better that way

[proven merlin]

I'm the one who starts wars

[dull nebula]

Is Brigitte Reinhardt’s daughter

It always confuses me

[bleak shell]

No, Brigitte is his God Daughter

[dull nebula]

Oh

Kinda like seris black is Harry Potter’s god father

[rare trail]

yes

brig is torbs daughter

rein is her godfather

theyre both in new overwatch

[dull nebula]

Darn

Can rein die now

He’s the hero with the least amount of back story

What’s with that

[limpid agate]

Ramattra specifically has 0 combat feats

But his species does

In the model of omnic he is

[dull nebula]

?

[limpid agate]

Much like how Bastion's feats are mostly of the Bastion models from the crisis

[dull nebula]

No big words plz

[limpid agate]

Rather than our specific Bastion

[rare trail]

have we seen a ravager in action?

[limpid agate]

In the novel

[rare trail]

which novel?

[dull nebula]

There’s a novel

WTH

[limpid agate]

Sojourn's

!!lorestories

[twilit nacelle]

Short Stories:
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE
Stone By Stone: https://bit.ly/36EsPul
Code of Violence: https://bit.ly/33CeroL
As You Are: https://bit.ly/43cFLUl

Lore Bites:
Yōkai: https://bit.ly/3UDJzKb
Reflections: https://bit.ly/3Jau2h9

Overwatch Novels. Note: These books are not free, but can be purchased online from a retailer like Amazon (linked)
The Hero of Numbai: https://amzn.to/3lYlzRT
Deadlock Rebels: https://amzn.to/3PRgDMl
Overwatch: Sojourn: https://amzn.to/3z4mc47

[dull nebula]

I’m clueless

[rare trail]

theres three novels

[dull nebula]

Sad

[rare trail]

orisa
cass and ashe
sojourn

[dull nebula]

Ok

Orisa is the robot with the power up ult right

And the shield

[bleak shell]

They are talking about the comic novels found on the Overwatch site.

[dull nebula]

Oh

But orisa is the robot right

[peak escarp]

not the comics

the novels

[bleak shell]

ok my bad then

[peak escarp]

the novels aren't on the Overwatch site, and have to be purchased

[dull nebula]

Darn

This is fun I thought this was bs at first

[rare trail]

this is orisa

[bleak shell]

Orisa did have a Shield but they replaced it with Javelin

[zenith mango]

are all of these stuff canon

[red ermine]

how is echo and cole related

[rare trail]

yes

[hollow tinsel]

Echo was created by a scientist named DrLiao but she died. Cassidy was born from his parents?? Idk what to tell you.

[red ermine]

is drliao a she or he

[hollow tinsel]

A she

[red ermine]

ok

thanks

[zenith mango]

how do bap and sombra know eachother

[peak escarp]

they became friends while in Talon together

[zenith mango]

One of the articles indicated that casualties in one of
Reaper’s attacks had suffered the same sort of wounds
as Jack.
That damned scientist, Ana thought with disgust

moira, i presume?

[peak escarp]

yes

[zenith mango]

are vincent and soldier

you know

that

[glacial zinc]

I forget, but I think Cassidy was like Liaos bodyguard while she worked, and spent a long time with the robot

[peak escarp]

yes

[peak escarp]

they were a couple, yes

but they broke up because Jack was too dedicated to the army to give their relationship the energy it needed

[zenith mango]

oh

[peak escarp]

he's a "married to the job" kind of guy

[zenith mango]

thanks warlored doctor six (see what i did there)

[glacial zinc]

I did

[lime pulsar]

Rammatra right

[rare trail]

?

[zenith mango]

im probably overthinking this but how is it possible for Transcendence to be zens ultimate ability if no one besides aurora has done it before

[peak escarp]

it's not canon

meaning, it's not something he can actually do, it's just an ability for the game

[golden oak]

So the new character will be Peruvian, was Peru ever mentioned in the lore?

[ivory garnet]

in a poster

[zenith mango]

@peak escarp few questions

was reyes married before he became reaper?

[peak escarp]

yes

his wife's name is Martina

[zenith mango]

they had a child?

[peak escarp]

yes, a son

[zenith mango]

what happened to them

[peak escarp]

this is most likely her with a new boyfriend/husband

[zenith mango]

oh'

[peak escarp]

she thinks Reyes died, so she moved on

[zenith mango]

why was akande locked up in a cell in code of violence

during the flashback

[peak escarp]

because he was a terrorist

you can see the fight where they capture him in his origin trailer

[zenith mango]

how did he end up becoming the leader of talon

[twilit patrol]

He was ?

[peak escarp]

https://youtu.be/vaZfZFNuOpI

he had a vision for Talon's future and got rid of everyone who stood in his way (like Vialli in the comic Masquerade)

the rest of the council was smart enough to go along with his plans

[zenith mango]

wait was akande captured by talon or overwatcj

[peak escarp]

by Overwatch

[twilit patrol]

[peak escarp]

specifically by Tracer, Genji and Winston

mostly Winston

[zenith mango]

why did sombra try to provoke reaper

in code of violence

[peak escarp]

because she likes manipulating people

poking their pressure points

[twilit patrol]

[peak escarp]

since it was their first mission together, it's likely she was testing his boundaries so she would know how far she could push in the future without provoking him

[zenith mango]

ah

[twilit patrol]

I don’t know what that means

[peak escarp]

it means she wants to know what will make him snap

so she can tease him in the future without going too far

[zenith mango]

will there be more short stories coming out anytime soon

[gentle nova]

I really enjoy the use of color in Widow's outfits in these panels. Each different color outfit reflects how she's feeling. When she's wearing purple she feels like royalty. Everyone else is below her and should respect her every wish. Her body language reflects this too as she's consistently relaxed and carefree, while still looking intently for whatever she's looking for.

I like the use of color in Widow's outfits in these panels. Each different color outfit reflects how she's feeling. When she's wearing purple she feels like royalty. Everyone else is below her and should respect her every wish. Her body language reflects this too as she's consistently relaxed and carefree, while still looking intently for whatever she's looking for.

These costume changes apply to Doomfist too, in the first two pictures he's wearing his white formal suit and a red rose. Sort of like a pin on a white map, like he's the one who's actually in charge in their duo, but he's allowing his +1 to feel the most important.

Then again in the 3rd panel, Doomfist is the one wearing purple and walking casually. When they're working, HE'S the royalty, and Widow is his underling.

Even Sombra's one panel in this post shows her lack of loyalty to Talon. Her dress has a pink exterior which reflects her age as she's very young and consistently playful in the interactions we see with her. The purple interior lining and her purple hair serve as a way for her to express that she also feels in charge, but is keeping it bottled up until she's gotten what she needs from Talon.

You can even see the contrast between Widow and Doomfist vs that couple in the background in the first image. The couple seems to be a relatively new couple since they're walking more reserved and with more physical contact. (alternatively, they could just be in a rut in their relationship and them being so close together in public is over compensation for the discontent they feel day-to-day) The purple on the upper torso area of the dress reflect her own inner feelings of wanting to be important and have power over others, but the her reserved body language and slimming black color of the rest of her dress shows how she's too nervous/scared to take charge of anything or anyone in her environment.

[zenith mango]

@peak escarp will there be more short stories coming out any time soon

[left pumice]

Now who’s reading all that

[gentle nova]

If you're interested in color theory and how it applies to the overwatch comics, you'll enjoy reading it

[peak escarp]

there's a collection of 8 new short stories listed on Amazon for release early next year

it's possible that we'll get those short stories released one by one for free online before the collection releases, like the previous collection did

in fact, the first collection is how we learned about Code of Violence, because a Reaper short story was mentioned in the description that hadn't been released yet

[zenith mango]

i dont know how to phrase this so ima just say it

does reaper wish things were the way they used to be?

[peak escarp]

how so?

[zenith mango]

loving wife

[gentle nova]

I doubt it, I imagine he mostly yearns for death since his cells are constantly going through cell death

[zenith mango]

more private

[gentle nova]

it's incredibly painful

[peak escarp]

he does miss part of that life

but he knows there's no going back

[zenith mango]

why though

how does he know

mercy could help

[gentle nova]

because he and soldier are both like 60

[peak escarp]

I don't think Mercy could help

[zenith mango]

why not

[peak escarp]

otherwise he would have gone to her

[zenith mango]

how do you know that

[gentle nova]

even if somehow mercy was able to reverse the cell experiments moira did, reaper is still on the top 100 public enemy list lol

[zenith mango]

maybe he doesnt want to see mercy again

or ask for help

[golden oak]

What does her tattoo say

[peak escarp]

but if he wanted to fix his condition and he thought Mercy could do it, he would go to her

[gentle nova]

idk, I imagine it's a french word

and I don't speak french lol

[zenith mango]

2 things

first of all, he wouldnt know if there was a way for mercy to help him

he never went to ask

[peak escarp]

The tattoo on her right forearm reads "araignée du soir, Cauchemar", which is French for "spider in the evening, Nightmare". It's a play on an old French superstition that goes "Araignée du matin, chagrin; araignée du soir, espoir". Directly translated it means, "Spider in the morning, grief; spider in the evening, hope." A more literal translation is "If you see a spider in the morning, it's bad luck. If you see a spider in the evening, it's good luck."

[zenith mango]

also

[peak escarp]

Mercy is a brilliant medical mind - if anyone can cure it, it's her

Reyes knows this

[zenith mango]

but he never went to her

why didnt he try

why didnt he ask her to help

[peak escarp]

maybe he doesn't want to be cured

[gentle nova]

which plays right into the costume color changes from being in the brightly lit casino (day) and the dimmer area outside in the 3rd panel (night)

[peak escarp]

her only successful mission (Mondatta's assassination) was at night

[gentle nova]

was it night time when widow shot out ana's eye?

[peak escarp]

no that was daytime

you're right

[golden oak]

It’s only Cauchemar from what I see

[gentle nova]

well she didn't actually kill ana, so ig that was a failed mission too

god, this panel goes hard as fk

[peak escarp]

Widowmaker is such a boss

[serene meteor]

theyre both so hot😭

[zenith mango]

do you think there will ever be closure on the whole reaper thing

[gentle nova]

doomfist is actually an evil mastermind, he's able to control his own ego so well that he allows those directly under him to appear in charge to execute his plans

[golden oak]

None of the people question why she’s purple?

[gentle nova]

skin condition/whole body tattoo

[golden oak]

Tbf there is one real life illness where your skin goes blue

[gentle nova]

I imagine it's not that weird in the overwatch universe

[serene meteor]

she has no heartbeat right

[vocal marsh]

But it’s blue not purple

[gentle nova]

silver toxicity

[vocal marsh]

Also isn’t she a wanted criminal

[gentle nova]

it was just slowed, not stopped

[serene meteor]

ohhh

[zenith mango]

@peak escarp do you think there will ever be closure on the whole reaper thing

[golden oak]

Pretty sure most talon members are

[gentle nova]

talon is in fact a criminal organization

[vocal marsh]

Yeah but she’s very noticeable

[serene meteor]

isnt talon a terrorist organisation

[vocal marsh]

Doom is passable but not many people have purple skin

[serene meteor]

so they all are criminals

[gentle nova]

dude, there's an active war going on with sentient robot people

a purple human is not the weirdest thing in the overwatch universe

[serene meteor]

idkkk doom having a huge metal gauntlet is kinda a give away

[vocal marsh]

He doesn’t always wear it

I don’t think he’s wearing it in Masquerade

[serene meteor]

ohhh yeah thats right

[gentle nova]

he's not even wearing it in that panel

[serene meteor]

yeahyeah i forgot

[gentle nova]

it is a gauntlet after all

[serene meteor]

didnt doom like break out of prison tho

[vocal marsh]

Yeah

But out of all of them, Widow is probably the most noticeable

[serene meteor]

yeahh agreed

[vocal marsh]

She probably the only woman in the world with purple skin

[golden oak]

Wait, wasn’t doom an amputee?

[vocal marsh]

With a French accent too

[serene meteor]

most likelyy😭

[vocal marsh]

Yeah

[gentle nova]

the los muertos gang have glowing tattos though

some are purple

[vocal marsh]

Not full body

[serene meteor]

yea doesnt sombra have like glow in the dark tatoos

tattoos

[vocal marsh]

She is completely purple

[golden oak]

Pretty sure the gauntlet is on his right hand

And that’s the amputated arm right

[gentle nova]

his right hand is literally on screen

stage right is audience left

stage left is audience right

[serene meteor]

i want that as a widow skin

[golden oak]

This one is pretty close
She’s More covered tho

[serene meteor]

yeahhh i just love the messy bun tbh

i love the lny widow skins

[viscid flame]

If I remember correctly this was the Maximillion Casino so most of the people there were rich elite with semi connections to Talon/incentive not to tip off the government that they are there

After-all Doom and Widow were attacked by Talon assassins after only a short while, so their presence didn't go unnoticed

[golden oak]

Why

[peak escarp]

regarding Doomfist's arm

it is cybernetic, it just has realistic skin

[golden oak]

Oh, what about the other one

[peak escarp]

it's normal

he's got knuckle guns though

[serene meteor]

i love his knuckle guns

[wind portal]

I feel like the overwatch devs get some of their inspiration from RWBY atleast when it comes to figuring out weapon designs

[gentle nova]

I wonder if the other one got destroyed due to the gauntlet lmao

[golden oak]

They got kinda lazy with support weapons
Last 3 supports have all been - one hand heals, second hand damages

[serene meteor]

exactlyy

i want more variety

[golden oak]

In LW case it’s the same hand even

[serene meteor]

kiri lw and moira right

[golden oak]

Yeah

[serene meteor]

i want more debuff supports

[golden oak]

Hell naw

[serene meteor]

life moiras ow2 beta orb 😵

like

[merry token]

Me knowing which arm is cybernetic because I for some reason had trouble aiming with something that shot from the left

[golden oak]

I mean, idk

Would be annoying to play against

[serene meteor]

i feel like a 15% dmg reduction would he good

or like something on the lower end

cause i agree -75% dmg was huge

[golden oak]

No cuz in things like anti nade or discord orb you’re more likely to die but if you’re skilled enough that’s not gonna stop you
Damage debuff would be a really cheap way to get kills

[serene meteor]

that is truee

[golden oak]

And that would kill dive potentially

[serene meteor]

ohhh yeah right

but still i want more supports

not just healbot

[wind wind]

do we know who made zens orbs

[gentle nova]

no

[ember wing]

yes

[limpid agate]

Yes, the Shambali

[gentle nova]

well duh

we don't know which individual(s) specifically created them though

[limpid agate]

Obviously not, it was probably no one of consequence

Or maybe Zenyatta himself

As part of his own meditations

[gentle nova]

Yeah I understand that, and it's part of what makes zen's lore so interesting, but I think their question was about which individual made them rather than the group

[zenith mango]

e

[glacial zinc]

Probably his pacifist group

Maybe Mondatta???

[peak wasp]

Can we start a petition to delete night from the game?

*knight

[peak escarp]

knight?

[ivory garnet]

Reinhardt?

[past copper]

Nobody is deleting heroes from the game

If you got a problem with a specific hero, idk get good

[gentle nova]

this guy?

[shadow marsh]

We love a flawed hero

[sharp trench]

Brig?

[wide moss]

Don't get me started again lmao

[shadow marsh]

I don't care

[twilit patrol]

My guy

[wide moss]

well actually ,.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[neat sable]

Why did mei kill all her friends

[twilit patrol]

??

She didn't

[bleak shell]

Mei's cryostasis Pod was the only one that didn't Malfunction. Also, 9 years have passed since they all went to cryostasis.

[worthy rose]

could echo or any other omnic be hacked by sombra

[twilit patrol]

Echo is a robot

But it's possible I think

[bleak shell]

There is an interaction between Echo and Sombra. Where Echo asks Sombra if she has any luck getting past her fourth firewall. Where Sombra replies already done but the fifth one is tricky.

[worthy rose]

i heard that the voice interactions aren’t canon so it’s possible she hasn’t

and i looked it up and sombra can only hack things that have/are computers

but idk

[uneven tulip]

Genji and doom have an interaction about their last fight (Doomfist introduction video)

so its likely that a large majority of the voicelines are cannon

[lavish vessel]

I think they reference canon things, but it’s not canon that they’ve ever said these things to each other

[zinc iron]

Sup

Anybody like ginji in here

[marsh sparrow]

Very cool character

[robust sparrow]

Can anyone explain why Hanzo has two dragons while Genji has one?

[worthy rose]

I don't know of any lore explanation but it's done so it's more practical gameplay-wise

[zenith mango]

The dragons represent soul and body

Since hanzo has both, he has 2 dragons. Genji’s body was destroyed, leaving only his soul left

[robust sparrow]

Thanks for telling me

[zenith mango]

@robust sparrow It’s just a theory, although one I strongly believe

[glacial zinc]

Is Reinhardt senile?

[peak escarp]

no

[peak escarp]

it's war paint

idk she just likes it

[shrewd agate]

What is the purple cube thing Ramattrs throws

Also what is that glowing thing in his ultimate

Bunny whiskers

[shrewd agate]

Moira*

[rare trail]

it’s not canon but it’s explained as nanited in a trailer

[junior schooner]

Rams brawler form confuses me what are the arms made out of and where do they go when he’s in base

[merry token]

Nanobots

Or smth

[rare trail]

not canon

i think one of his teaser videos says its nanites though

this video i thinkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rxne0rbQ-A

[shrewd agate]

Aw come on why does something so cool have to not be canon 😭

But what even is a nanite?

Like nano machines?

[hollow tinsel]

Yeah

[zenith mango]

Why does Moira cal Orisa Idina

[peak escarp]

Idina is the nickname of the OR15 model Orisa was made from

like how Bastion is the nickname of the E54 model, or Ravager is the nickname of the R7000 model

[zenith mango]

Oh

[hollow tinsel]

I've never heard Moira call Orisa Idina. When does that happen? Is it in-lore or in-game?

[vocal marsh]

In game

“Sweet Idina has grown into a domineering beast.”
“My name is Orisa. You would be wise to remember it.”

[hollow tinsel]

Oh cool

[peak escarp]

right

they're hypothetical

[amber lintel]

soldier being gay doesnt make sense

[peak escarp]

how so?

[golden oak]

You know how thousands of ants stick together to form a bridge or something? That’s basically how it’s done
He’s controlling nanorobots that he can shoot or absorb and turn into nemesis

[vivid belfry]

Ok ok let’s Be honest doomfist has the coolest backstory

[craggy seal]

it can't be cooler than MewTwos

[twilit patrol]

[hard reef]

lore accurate widow and ana

(widow is 37844993x better)

[golden oak]

💀

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Is that how she lost her eye?

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A little bit

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!!loreonly

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This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

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War Death Conspiracy Revenge Pain

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Why death ?

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If you think about it so much has died in ow lore

People in the omnic crises, Gerard, Mei's team, Balderich, innocent omnics etc etc

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Y E S

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people were being racist against robots so robots decided to pull a detroit become human

some robots took it too far by declaring war

overwatch the organization was formed to stop robots from killing all the humans

it worked and then overwatch got in a scandal

now winston trying to bring the team back, so far we got mei, tracer, brig, genji, and rein

cba to do it in 5 words

thats the best ull get

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lmfao

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Ana is actually the better sniper, she saw and shot Widowmaker first, but that only dented her headgear and revealed that she was Amelie, this shocked Ana and made her hesitate (Ana’s scope was on widows head for a while before widow shot)

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Eh, the backstory done the most well was Sigmas, tbh I like Ramatras, as it introduces so many new concepts like Omnics being a finite race

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On the topic of Widow and Ana, I like it when Widow gets nanaoed I think she screams “I FEEL ALIVE”

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robot racism, hero terrorism, talon

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That’s so damn cool

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Has doom got his feet out yet

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Probably in his tropical skin

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Finally finally

Finally

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What about avatar skin

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I think he has sandals

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his toes are out in his default skin

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Really?

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Ow1 Skin

Tbh almost every skin he’s got toes out

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That’s what I’m saying

Not enough

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I dont get how people say ana is a better sniper than widow because ana still has all her emotions which puts her at a disadvantage but widow feels nothing for anyone

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having a conscience is generally seen as a good thing

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Yes but a disadvantage if going up against someone you used to be friends with

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yes

Ana is better with technical skill, but weaker emotionally

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And she must have back problems

have u seen the way she walks like man

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at her age, I'd expect so

a lifetime of hunching over a rifle

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mercy and tracer are lucky they dont age as much

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but they do age normally

them not aging is a myth

surprising that people still think that

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What is the weirdest canon fact

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Ana’s conscience is the reasons he has so many confirmed kills, she just kills them to make them not suffer

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And she is more skilled

Than Widow

And also

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She wasn’t friends with Amelie, she was shocked that someone who everyone thought was dead or kidnapped, was now a purple sniper aiming at her

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Not sure if this counts as weird but Kiriko was ready to consume those two dozen donuts in her cinematic

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Oh dear

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Bastion has never canonically killed anyone

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Ye he was eager and was the first there, got one shot and was left in the woods or smth

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his pod malfunctioned on landing and never opened

so the crisis was long over by the time he activated

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Lol

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Well youd have to assume at some point that they met because of Gerard

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bro what is thisd

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But she probably wasn’t friends, given that Amelie didn’t care about Overwatch at all

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True

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Besides, canonically Ana shot first and her scope was on widowmakers head the entire time Widow got her sniper ready

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this is off topic I personally feel like they should have had some sort of security of amelie since her husband being in overwatch puts a target on her back

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She probably did

They all would be demolished by talons operatives

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i hate moria for what she did to her

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Moira is crazy

Literally torturing people, she also admits she enjoys hurting animals or smth

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Yea experimenting on bunnies

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Also it probably wasn’t just Moora

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If Reyes didn’t shoot on the black-watch mission then alot wouldnt have happend

But alot still would have since overwatch didnt know the full extent of what they were doing

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Fr, The Venice incident kickstarted the entire Overwatch lore

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Apparently Genji still thinks about the Venice incident

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No wonder

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Like bro that would be crazy

And traumatizing

The guy your trying to get starts trash talking

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I feel like overwatch used genji, yes they helped in but they also turned him into a weapon

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And the leader blows his chest out with a shotgun and pushes him out a window

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Eh, mercy wouldn’t let them, I think Mercy did have only the best intentions

But others might have trained him

To fight more

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Yea

Im glad moira wasnt the one saving genji tho

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Yes she would have made him a demon

A monster

https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-reaper-gif-5526171

That was her last creation

Shiver me Timbers

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Reaper is terrifying in lore

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Fr

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He was literally disintergrated by winston but then was fine

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Some guy said reaper was a pushover and weak

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Nah

They need to make more cinematics

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Their making a new one about Sojourn

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Yea

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And her reaction to Winston

Then season 6

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I feel like they could have fit her working as a brista into the lore tbh

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Maybe she was working as a barista when she got the call back

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That would be cool considering her birista skin

i feel like in the story mode someone is gonna sacrifise themself

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Me when dva nukes herself: 😃
Me when Baptiste allows himself to captured: 😔
Me when Ana sacrifices herself: 😡

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Me when mei dies 🎉🎉🎉🎉🥳🥳🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🎉🎉🎉

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Me when Tracer is caught in Talons back line: 😀 😆 🎊 🎊 🎉

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Mei is a sweetheart who needs to be protected

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😬

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she is!

she has done nothing wrong

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She got buffed

And is op

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if you hate anyone, it's Mei players

not Mei herself

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Also I dislike her “Sowwy 🤧” additude

If she screamed “DIE YOU FILTHY PIG,FACE THE COLD”

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she's been through a lot okay

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So has Ana

But Ana isn’t a filthy baby

[peak escarp]

eh, Ana's situation isn't nearly as bad

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Literally stated Ana also lost everyone close to her

I could go through many other characters who were in bad situations like Mei’s and doesn’t have the “🤧” additude

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Ana lost those close to her... but then they all turned up alive

Mei's colleagues are actually dead

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Ana was in the military and probably saw most people close to her be killed

[peak escarp]

that's a risk when you're in the military

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Also Rammatra

Literally watched his species get bludgeoned to death in front of him

And he couldn’t do anything but cradle their bodies

And he’s still a Chad

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and?

people react to trauma in different ways

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Jesus Overwatch lore is messed up 💀

I don’t think her additude is from trauma