#lore-discussion

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twilit patrol
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There's not new map for S5

limpid agate
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Its 2 new maps for S6

vocal marsh
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Ah

weary slate
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would you punch lore doomfist for a million dollars?

twilit patrol
worthy rose
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yes

twilit patrol
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And dey say

worthy rose
weary slate
worthy rose
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Yeah sure

astral acorn
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I’d take his fist

fallen juniper
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yo??

worthy rose
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bcz pushing shows power

astral acorn
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Akande Ogundimu

twilit patrol
rare trail
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push bot seems to be getting upgrades based off the trailer

peak spear
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Does anyone know if the new hero for season 6 has a gun, a sword ,or both on her arm? Anyone have ideas on what her abilitys might be?

ivory garnet
past copper
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Seem pretty cool but can't say more til seeing her in action first

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Tho will be good to finally get a new flying hero

keen summit
keen summit
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In this pic u can actually see a trigger

rare trail
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could be a hybrid

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looks like it has a blade

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or like an edge

keen summit
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Keep in mind she is from peru and if i remember correctly aztec was also there

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They had these sword clubs quite similair in design to this, but this is more well future

rare trail
astral acorn
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I need doom in a g-string skin

keen summit
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Yea

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You see it right

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The blocky formation

honest spear
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It's her healing sword

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I still think it's a skateboard

merry mason
hollow tinsel
honest spear
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They said what they said 💯

clear kestrel
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god PVE looks fun IDC that there's no skill tree anymore

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I'm just happy to have an actual advancing story

dreamy epoch
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i can't even be mad anymore

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exhausted all that energy earlier

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but at least they're getting somewhere with a campaign after what feels like forever

clear kestrel
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exactly

honest spear
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ok what about the omnic that was levitating that woman in the air

peak escarp
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the woman is Clair

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she's an omnic

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they're NPCs from the Toronto mission

clear kestrel
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so I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume it's like
3 story missions per season yea?

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since we only saw 3 in the trailer

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the india zenyatta genji mission is awol but I imagine that's happening in season 7

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or whenever that event happens chronologically

clear kestrel
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kidnapping omnics
strapping god knows what to their heads to
what
force compliance? there's no way in hell he'd be ok with this unless he's fallen from grace or some shit
like he's taken to some "I will save them from themselves" rhetoric

worthy rose
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I agree with the guy in the comments, seems like something talon may be forcing

clear kestrel
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maybe

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and maybe ram feels he has no real choice because without talons help
his revolution will fail

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very interesting

peak escarp
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Ramattra himself said he would make the omnics join him, whether they wanted to or not

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this isn't Talon's doing

clear kestrel
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I've been out of the loop were there some shorts I missed

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that like
detailed this?

peak escarp
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a short story

clear kestrel
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hmm

peak escarp
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“It means that I will build the army Lanet wanted,” I said. “And then we will find a way to save our people, whether they want it or not. Whether they deserve it or not. If they will not willingly join us, we will find a way to make them.”```
ivory garnet
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Ramattra’s short story explains the device lol

clear kestrel
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ah

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ok I was right, he's just gone insane

worthy rose
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Oh lol, I missed that too

peak escarp
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he's so obsessed with "saving his people" that he's willing to control them

clear kestrel
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I mean he has to be insane right?
that's the only way he could somehow corroborate the logic of "wanting to save my people from their oppressors"
"by.... oppressing them myself"

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"it's ok when I do it"

ivory garnet
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power trip

clear kestrel
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definitely

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but yknow what?
this makes perfect sense because like
we literally see null sector mass produces soldiers to die en-masse

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we've seen this as early as archives

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he's perpetuating the cycle

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honestly maybe we should have seen this coming

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makes me wonder how much of this revolution is for the "benefit of his people" in his eyes
or purely for his own selfish desires

rare trail
clear kestrel
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not my point

rare trail
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it matters a lot

clear kestrel
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it's still hypocritical in my eyes

rare trail
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ram doesnt care about the drones

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I don’t think he really considers the drones omnics

clear kestrel
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and besides it looks like he's trying to "recruit" actually sentient omnics anyway

rare trail
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yeah

peak escarp
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he does care about people like Clair and Reggie, who are sentient omnics

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or at least he claims to

clear kestrel
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well we've seen what his definition of "care" entails

rare trail
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I kinda read it as like recruit them as like planners or something not actually physically fighting idk about the weird head thing in the trailer though

clear kestrel
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what is the short story called?

rare trail
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reflections

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Should be in pins

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!!lorestories

twilit nacelleBOT
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Short Stories:
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE
Stone By Stone: https://bit.ly/36EsPul
Code of Violence: https://bit.ly/33CeroL
As You Are: https://bit.ly/43cFLUl

Lore Bites:
Yōkai: https://bit.ly/3UDJzKb
Reflections: https://bit.ly/3Jau2h9

Overwatch Novels. Note: These books are not free, but can be purchased online from a retailer like Amazon (linked)
The Hero of Numbai: https://amzn.to/3lYlzRT
Deadlock Rebels: https://amzn.to/3PRgDMl
Overwatch: Sojourn: https://amzn.to/3z4mc47

clear kestrel
rare trail
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nah

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for some reason it’s named the same thing

clear kestrel
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ah ok

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found it

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ok
yeah
wow

honest spear
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!!is the new support carrying a shotgun

twilit nacelleBOT
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As I see it, yes.

honest spear
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There it is folks

clear kestrel
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that was 100% a rash decision made in grief
but he's sticking to it

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wonder if nameless and zara will show up in the story mode

peak escarp
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maybe

clear kestrel
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probably not IN PERSON but I could see them being name dropped at some point

peak escarp
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I hope there's an all-heroes mode for these missions so we can play as an omnic team

clear kestrel
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I feel like that's the least they could do to make up for the fact there's no hero missions anymore

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since those were MEANT to be the "all heros" equivalent I imagine

peak escarp
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Archives had all-heroes

clear kestrel
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I know

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personally I'm hoping the story missions come packaged WITH the old archives missions

peak escarp
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same

hollow tinsel
peak escarp
hollow tinsel
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That's from the season 6 trailer no?

clear kestrel
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still not used to the beard

peak escarp
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his beard looks so fluffy

clear kestrel
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it makes his face look too angular

ivory garnet
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wow new Dr6 pfp dropped

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personally tho, I do like his ow1 beard better

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his new beard somehow made him look younger to me

hollow tinsel
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His ow1 beard looks like his barber accidentally shaved half his mustache and had to shave the other half to make it symetrical

shadow marsh
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New trailer just dropped

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What's everyone's thoughts?

peak escarp
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hyped, stoked AND jazzed

limpid agate
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Gonna wait to play it as well as getting the future content pipeline before getting my hopes up

hollow tinsel
limpid agate
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We still dont even know if its an always on story or whats included yet

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Just that theres 3 missions

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And then a 4th seperate event

shadow marsh
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Still grateful for what's coming of PvE, people gotta let go of skill tree and hero missions. The main point of PvE is lore and I'm all for it

past copper
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^ fr. People would've just got tired of skill trees and hero missions once they got them all and played every mission

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Those things were more than likely not going to be updated beyond release when you think about it

acoustic night
clear kestrel
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I feel there's been a lot of misinformation spread around about the state of PVE

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the fact that a lot of people are of the mind it was cancelled OUTRIGHT and not just
severely gutted

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not that people had no reason to be upset, far from it
but the issue is more it's not what was promised, especially being the main reason why OW2 was even a thing to begin with

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why OW1 began to stagnate
why they apparently moved to F2P model

shadow marsh
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It's hilarious to see their reaction that PvE isn't entirely gone

clear kestrel
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some of it does feel like people just latched onto something to be upset about

worthy rose
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The trailer looks fire but I wanted skill trees bc they def would have put doom uppercut in it

clear kestrel
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without actually analysing it
the influencers didn't help

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personally the story mode itself was always the main appeal for me
the skill trees and hero missions were just gravy

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but

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I'd be lying if I said I wasn't really bummed out about the lack of skill tree in particular

worthy rose
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What did “hero missions” even mean?

clear kestrel
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they were just like

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non-canon side missions where you got to play any hero and did a random selection of objectives

worthy rose
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Ohh

clear kestrel
shadow marsh
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It's the minor side of PvE, the Story Mission is the main thing

clear kestrel
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maybe if we dare to dream, they'll bring the skill tree back in a later update

worthy rose
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I have my expectations low rn

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Too low for that

clear kestrel
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I don't really have any expectations beyond what we saw in the actual gameplay reveal

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and that looked fun enough in its own right

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but again I'm here for the story

worthy rose
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It does look pretty fun but I just don’t wanna get too overhyped

clear kestrel
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I'm about as hyped as I'd be even if nothing had happened

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so
hyped enough

shadow marsh
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I'm hyped for the lore

clear kestrel
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truth be told I'm just happy to have a permanent non-PVP mode to enjoy

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I'm excited to see the story actually advance

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I just hope we see more angles of it beyond the current null sector conflict

worthy rose
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They’re only releasing 3 missions tho

clear kestrel
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this was probably always the plan?

vocal marsh
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For now

clear kestrel
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what were people expecting them to just release the entire thing in one go?

worthy rose
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When they do release more I’m hoping they show other characters then just like overwatch

clear kestrel
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I imagine the story mossions were always planned for a staggered release

vocal marsh
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That’s what the cinematically are for

clear kestrel
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plus we know more exist then what we were shown in the trailer

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I imagine we'll get new story missions each season

vocal marsh
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Sojourns is probably going to include what she’s been up to

clear kestrel
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and I'm ok with that

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that's what I assumed going in

worthy rose
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Null sector wouldn’t attack talon right? Bc ram and doomfist are working with eachother?

vocal marsh
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We’ve seen at least Murphy is included

clear kestrel
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for now

worthy rose
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Idk I might be wrong

clear kestrel
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we know talon ARE a thing

vocal marsh
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Yeah not that we’ve seen

clear kestrel
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if the india mission is anything to take into consideration

vocal marsh
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Also on the S6 Trailer thing

clear kestrel
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I imagine that's happening next season

vocal marsh
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At the 1 minute mark

clear kestrel
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I wonder what order the missions will be in

vocal marsh
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Is that Gothenburg?

clear kestrel
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yes

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we saw rio, gothenburg and toronto in the trailer

vocal marsh
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Does that mean we’ll get it as a map or not

clear kestrel
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we got rio and toronto as maps

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I don't see why not

vocal marsh
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Maybe S7?

peak escarp
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because Gothenburg was a 2CP map

clear kestrel
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oh it was?

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maybe they'll re-work it

worthy rose
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Is flashpoint becoming an official game of that you’ll be able to get when you queue into normal quick play/comp

vocal marsh
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Yes

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It’s an actual game mode

worthy rose
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Oh cool

vocal marsh
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So far we’ve seen Junkertown and India as the two maps

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Maybe Gothenburg will release in S7 as a flashpoint map too

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They did that with Esperanca in S1

clear kestrel
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oh we're getting india before its story mission?

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that's interesting

vocal marsh
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No

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In S6

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Idk

clear kestrel
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that's
when the story missions drop

vocal marsh
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I recall flashpoint being in S6

clear kestrel
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we're in season 5 rn

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the story missions are in season 6

peak escarp
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season 5 doesn't have a map

vocal marsh
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Oh I thought you were asking if we’re getting India in season 5

clear kestrel
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nah lol

vocal marsh
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Yeah mb

clear kestrel
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dw abt it

vocal marsh
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But yeah it seems S6 will be a big season

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August 10

peak escarp
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massive

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you could say it's the rest of OW2

clear kestrel
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shame talking about it outside this channel is gonna be a nightmare

vocal marsh
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Yep

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This is my safe space

worthy rose
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Yeah

clear kestrel
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because everyone's gonna be complaining about how "IT'S NOT WHAT WAS PROMISED GRAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH"
and like
I get it
I just don't care anymore

vocal marsh
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Same

worthy rose
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Better then nothing

stuck stump
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this channel is the safest in the server

vocal marsh
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I understand some people may be pissed but like idgaf, I get gameplay

clear kestrel
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like I get it, I really do
but I just want to enjoy what we have because I'm sick of being upset

peak escarp
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my safe space is the lore server

vocal marsh
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There’s a lore server?

peak escarp
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I'm just here to help new people

clear kestrel
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there's a dedicated lore server?

worthy rose
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There’s a lore server

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???

peak escarp
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it's linked in my database

shadow marsh
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Here's to hoping Story Missions succeed

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And let the braindead seethe

past copper
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Lol. I'm sorry but brain dead will ALWAYS be brain dead

past copper
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Overwatch 2 sub is one of them

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Too bad the same can't be said for the comments on the trailer

shadow marsh
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The only reason PvE is getting hate right now is because of the scrap of Skill Tree and Hero Missions.

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Like, I get it, it's a shame but move on. I doubt it'll be fun because Ow2 itself still has bugs everywhere.

keen summit
past copper
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There's Mayans, Inca, and Aztec

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All different cultures

peak escarp
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the design seems to have Incan influence

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which makes sense, if she's Peruvian

keen summit
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Yrah i dont really know much from there

past copper
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I'm honestly interested in seeing what she can do

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Someone actually made a pretty decent artwork of what she looks like

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Looks like they crushed it

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No cap. That looks way more than an artist's guess

peak escarp
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watch them be completely off Sombralaugh

past copper
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Maybe. But the clothing and weapon seem on point

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The weapon def looks like an espada of sorts

wind portal
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ah yes

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healing with a chainsaw

past copper
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Sword gun

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Like rwby

tepid lion
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Could Flashpoint be the new PvP Mode?

peak escarp
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it is

shadow marsh
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Hopefully it's not a sojourn mythic skin in season 6

tepid lion
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doesnt rly look like soj

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And its confirmed that a new sup is coming to s6 no?

shadow marsh
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Good

tepid lion
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Nice

rare trail
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really excited for her

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kinda de confirms my theory of the hero being the informant in soldier and Ana’s story though

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her weapon seems very cool

tepid lion
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Hmm could be also a intel support then?

timber nymph
rare trail
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why?

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soj is from Canada new support is from@peru

tepid lion
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I can see a connection but more like Ana Reinhard them beeing on mission together rather than relation

past copper
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Lots of heros have cybernetics doesn't mean they're related

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Especially since that makes no sense given she's from Peru and Sojourn is from Canada

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And also, that's just something an artist on Twitter made the moment they saw the new hero teased

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She might not actually look like that since all we got was a silhouette

tepid lion
wind wind
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she do be looking like my next main

keen summit
twilit patrol
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I think it’s fan art

keen summit
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s6

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its fanart of what we saw yes

twilit patrol
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Yeah

twilit patrol
worthy rose
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ngl the design doesnt look like something from ow

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but thats gotta be a sword or smth

shadow marsh
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Time flies really fast, eventually we'll find out who she really is

fading ravine
shadow marsh
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Embed failed lol

zenith mango
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O great War Lord Doctor 6, hear my call and answer my prayer, for I have a question for thou.

peak escarp
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yes?

keen summit
zenith mango
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I forgoteth my question please don’t smite me

hollow tinsel
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💀

twilit patrol
peak escarp
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well if you remember it, ping me and I'll answer when I can

novel dirge
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Wait hol up

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Who’s Cassidy’s parents?

peak escarp
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we don't know

astral acorn
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Doomfist

twilit patrol
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They are dead

peak escarp
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we dont know if they're dead

novel dirge
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🙁

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Awn

rare trail
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the only heroes with known parents are like ashe orisa echo genji hanzo jq pharah widow brig kiri i think

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ig you could count like bastion as anubis

shadow marsh
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Season 5 trailer just dropped. What tracer said in the beginning seems to imply that Mischief and Magic is the dnd game in ow lore. Just speculation.

rare trail
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yeah it def seems like that based off her line

ivory garnet
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the season is based off of DnD like last season was Star Wars/Star Trek

past copper
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No. I think last season was just Star Wars

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Course, I never watched Star Trek so Don’t know for sure

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Of course this one being like D&D should be interesting

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At least Blizzard doesn't disappoint with these seasonal events

shadow marsh
keen summit
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well likely to be canon but unimportant

past copper
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I mean, it might just be Tracer and Emily are d&d players and this is there quest

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Blizzard just couldn't use D&D for copyright purposes

peak escarp
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the D&D game is called Role Heroes

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I was wrong about Mischief & Magic - that's the name of the prop hunt mode

past copper
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Regardless this should prove to be an interesting season

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Only thing I hate about. THE only thing - Hanzo getting nerfed

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Besides that, it all sounds great

keen summit
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i honestly dont really feel anything for the season

twilit patrol
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It's boring

keen summit
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like i like the skins (WHY NO MAGE RAMA IT WAS RIGHT THERE)

wary trout
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Hey

twilit patrol
slender juniper
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new lore dropped playboi carti is orisa

peak escarp
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!!shitposting @slender juniper

twilit nacelleBOT
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@slender juniper Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

slender juniper
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i didnt know jokes were forbidden 😭 😭 sorry ms.warlord doctor six

twilit patrol
slender juniper
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got it!

twilit patrol
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Right

hollow meteor
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omg

tardy granite
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wait so whos this new hero

rare trail
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new character

tardy granite
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what do we know about them

rare trail
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peruvian

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incan weapon

peak escarp
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female support, probably Peruvian, sun themed

formal yew
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I can’t wait for the mei buffs

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But they will be quickly beefed

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Nerfed*

hollow tinsel
quasi siren
past copper
quasi siren
past copper
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Regardless, I'll like to put out that I'm hyped for the story missions coming

quasi siren
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anyways excited for the new s6 hero shocked we got a teaserr so early

past copper
quasi siren
past copper
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They didn't have much choice. Especially since some game media also had a hand in spreading misinfo

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Players are still crying over no skill trees or hero missions if you can believe that

clear kestrel
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I've noticed how toxic that side of the community has been lately

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like you try to gleam ANY positivity from this and you get dogpilled and belittled

shadow marsh
clear kestrel
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you're not allowed to be happy, you HAVE to be sad miserable turds like them

shadow marsh
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They gon call shit abt you a blizzard meat rider or smth just bcs of enjoying the game

past copper
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If they played up til now just for those things, then they delete the game and leave

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A majority played for the story and we are getting it. So yay

clear kestrel
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also 90% of the player base is here for PVP anyway so like

shadow marsh
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Ow got me playing because of their cinematics

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And lore

past copper
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Alright this is off topic from lore, but

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Last thing I have to say

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Is now ppl are crying that "story will be locked behind paywall" 😢

peak escarp
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someone will 100% upload the cutscenes to youtube

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also, parts of the lore are already "behind a paywall"

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there's 3 paid novels

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nobody seems to complain about them

shadow marsh
past copper
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Yes. But it's basically been hinted that the game won't be locked specifically

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Only the story specific battlepass. I guess

shadow marsh
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I've seen so many people are delusional enough to say that Story missions isn't PvE. Just further convinces me that the majority of the braindead community was looking for a reason to be outraged.

clear kestrel
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I understand people being upset it's still paid for despite having a ton of shit cut

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like personally I was hoping they'd just make the story missions free

past copper
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They are free. The battlepass for it is as optional as any

clear kestrel
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it says you need to buy the bundle for "permanent access"

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what does that mean

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does that mean you get to keep playing them after season 6

past copper
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This has been discussed before. The events lately haven't been locked behind paywall

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So it wouldn't make sense to make story missions paid for

clear kestrel
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nothing on the blog post stated you needed to pay for general access
just "permanent access"
whatever that means

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I'm going to assume that means the story missions are like
freely accessible per season

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but become locked after the season ends
THEN you have the buy the bundle to play them in later seasons I guess?

past copper
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Idk. Ok. It sounds like Blizzard is trying to make multiple changes all at once

shadow marsh
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Then I'm gonna play the hell out of it til the season ends

past copper
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But... that won't matter until August so not much to worry about right now

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Also, happy to know what those bug-shaped units can do now

rare trail
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this seems really interesting

IMG_0775.png
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it’s probably connected to this

IMG_0776.png
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so null sector is like attacking iggy?

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probably related to this somehow

peak escarp
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this is an enemy type in the mission

lavish leaf
peak escarp
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it ignores the players and instead targets the omnic NPCs

rare trail
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zenyatta doesn’t really have a dad

peak escarp
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attaching to them

rare trail
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ig we’ll find out the purpose of rams stuff in august

lavish leaf
past copper
peak escarp
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yeah

past copper
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Makes sense. How else will Ram make omnics listen to him

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Ironically, by taking away the very thing he praised them for. Their free will

peak escarp
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As we continue through, we meet up with Claire, an Omnic trying to help Overwatch in its mission. As we work through the powered-down underground metro, we encounter our next enemy type: the Subjugator. These floating Null Sector robots will largely ignore the player characters in favor of going after the friendly Omnics. If they latch on, they attach a metal clamp to their head, disabling them. We see this happen to one unfortunate Omnic during a mid-mission cutscene, and it's clear it's not a good thing.

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from the game informer article

shadow marsh
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Pretty messed up seeing this bcs it contradicts Ram's ideology about Freedom of Omnics.

shadow marsh
peak escarp
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Ramattra wants freedom for omnics as a whole

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he doesn't have any problems depriving an individual omnic of their liberty

wraith wolf
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I hates omnics they should stay underground i run with junker queen

wind portal
worthy rose
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Hope the missions are a decent length for the money

shadow marsh
wind portal
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Honestly I think most omnics are 'sentient', they just can't fight the programming as well as the omnics that had gained their own thoughts

clear kestrel
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I don't want to miss out on this

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or just watch it on youtube

wind portal
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I'm not, I already quit ow lol

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mainly just here for lore now

past copper
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Ram has to do something. Even if it makes him a borderline hypocrite

clear kestrel
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it was probaby his idea
he's kinda fallen off the deep end

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did you read the reflections short story?

past copper
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Bc think of it this way. Would you willing follow someone who straight up kidnapped you?

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No. You wouldn't

clear kestrel
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he's aware of that
he's just not going to give them the choice

past copper
#

Worse yet. It probably does far worse than brainwash them

clear kestrel
#

I think it just removes their autonomy

past copper
#

It probably completely resets their minds to make them completely obedient

clear kestrel
#

who knows if they're still aware whilst it's happening

past copper
#

That said. In order to protect them. Mayhaps he'll store them in pods of sorts and reawaken them he feels like it

#

That's a stretch, but hey

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At least it's an interesting theory

blazing talon
#

in canon has zenyatta ever harmed anyone?

peak escarp
#

no

keen summit
keen summit
peak escarp
#

the heroes who are likely to have never harmed anyone are... Bastion, Lifeweaver, Sigma, Zenyatta

shadow marsh
peak escarp
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if we only count harming humans, add Brigitte, D.Va, Echo, Mercy, Mei

wind wind
peak escarp
#

Bastion's drop pod malfunctioned when it was deployed and it never saw combat during the crisis

clear kestrel
#

yea the flashbacks it was seeing were from other units

rare trail
blazing talon
#

has ramattra harmed any omnics?

rare trail
#

I think so

peak escarp
#

Brig didn't harm any of them, only Reinhardt did

rare trail
#

oh mb

#

uprising probably hurt some omnics

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this is probably harming omnics too

IMG_0767.png
past copper
#

Uprising only more or less held people hostage

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Mondotta was one such hostage

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But things changed for Ram after he lost a friend in the Uprising

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He doesn't intend to take hostages

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He intends to capture as many omnics as possible and more kill any humans caught in the crossfire

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Also, this is bugging me. Is that omnic not finished by the art team or is the face plate intentional

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Bc I don't know if those are the eyes or not

peak escarp
#

there's something over his face

keen summit
keen summit
#

Solution to the problem of sentient omnics being finite

keen summit
#

But no, new never before seen hero

twilit patrol
#

I don't see Iggy as a hero

carmine solar
keen summit
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She was scientist

twilit patrol
#

I know but it's like Maximilien, I don't see him as a hero.

keen summit
#

Iggy has a reason

limpid agate
#

She's a civillian

#

The comic shows her very much as a non combatant

twilit patrol
golden oak
grand wedge
#

Kinda

#

Ramattra told the other Null Sector founders that he would do anything to protect the omnics and keep them safe, including taking their own freedom and free will it seems…

stuck stump
#

is ramattra apart of overwatch

twilit patrol
#

No

lavish vessel
#

He’s part of null sector

twilit patrol
#

Yes he is the leader of Null Sector

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He work with Talon

golden oak
candid schooner
#

Whether Omnics like it, or not.

grand wedge
# golden oak Wait so he’s trying to save them from slavery by enslaving them?

I think that to Ramattra, it's more, "protect them from themselves", as in, the omnics are never going to be treated as equals by humans, i'm going to start a war agaisnt humanity, but If I don't put the omnics safe, they are going to die by the handss of humans. So to prevent that from happening, he is kidnapping them, to put them safe somewhere...

#

at least, that's what I think he is doing

viscid flame
#

My guess is Null Sector is radicalizing the Omnics against the Humans by making them see and experience the suffering other Omnics have faced

wind wind
halcyon furnace
#

why does ramattra refer to Aurora as echos predecessor?

fallen juniper
#

and aurora was made first so echo should be better

peak escarp
#

Liao made both Aurora and Echo

grand wedge
twilit patrol
#

Ramattra will put omnics safe and not kill them ?

#

But he will bring them down with him

merry token
#

Does the rust, my greatest weakness voiceline imply that genji’s cybernetics are made of iron

full hedge
#

When is the cinematic meant to come out?

peak escarp
#

August 4

honest spear
covert echo
rare trail
#

i dont think so

peak escarp
#

no

twilit patrol
#

And we don't need Max

#

He is a good NPC

#

It would be a mess if they introduce him as a hero

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Plus, he is a non combatant

covert echo
#

Makes sense.

stuck stump
#

do we know reinhardts backstory?

twilit patrol
#

You can find his backstory here

keen hound
rare trail
#

a strong guy

cedar hedge
#

bodybuilder/actor/politician

keen hound
peak escarp
#

it's a classic bodybuilder pose

young lily
#

Is sigma bald

worthy rose
#

@young lily The pubic hairs sing to him.

thick lichen
#

am i dad in the dc universe which lead to me being an overwatch player?

hollow tinsel
#

Huh?

zenith mango
#

Do hog and Ana

#

Like

#

Know each other

lost gulch
limpid agate
#

They never met.

lavish vessel
#

Didn’t they?? Cos junker queen has a voice line with Ana where she mentions she’s been to junker town. And hog also has a voice line where he says “stay out of trouble nana” to Ana

ivory garnet
#

its not for sure that they have met

#

but its possible she couldve passed by

lavish vessel
#

Ah alright

mellow stratus
#

Ramattra won't kill the omnics, that doesn't make senses.

austere agate
#

I mean omnics can be killed by the hands of other omnics as well

twilit patrol
#

It's really weird

austere agate
#

wait someone remind me

#

cass lost his arm before or after overwatch

#

or during

twilit patrol
#

Before I think

twilit patrol
hollow tinsel
#

I think he has it in his black watch skin but idk

austere agate
#

I think he lost in during blackwatch but the story isn’t completely told

languid badger
#

Commit suicide if you don’t think that genji and hog are gay couple

twilit patrol
#

!!shitposting

twilit nacelleBOT
#

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

stuck stump
#

when do you think theyll add a trans hero?

twilit patrol
#

Maybe in 2024

stuck stump
#

i was thinking the new hero might be

trail tendon
#

can somoene explain sorry not really into the Overwatch couple stuff so: which hero’s are lqbtq and what kind?

twilit patrol
lavish vessel
peak escarp
#

we don't know how he lost it

worthy rose
#

so

#

after

hollow tinsel
#

@peak escarp this isn't lore-related but you're always in this chat. What rank are you in-game?

twilit patrol
peak escarp
#

idk

#

I don't play comp

mystic rune
#

Where Lifeweaver fit into the lore

modest mango
sly shadow
austere agate
#

so is the questwatch d&d that you see them play throughout the battle pass

#

is that considered canon

peak escarp
#

I don't think so

#

but no harm if it is

#

it's just a fun game night with Emily and the heroes

junior parrot
#

Bro does sombra like talaon at all?

frail cliff
#

half and half

frail cliff
wary sable
#

Cringe

kindred briar
#

Peru hero looks cool

keen summit
fleet hawk
#

Doom is the strongest character ngl

keen summit
#

hes in upper echelons

fleet hawk
#

Who’s the strongest then??

keen summit
#

sigma is mystery, we dont know his limits. but for example orisa and winston are already stronger

#

symmetra is also insane in potential

rare trail
#

sym is also probably stronger than doom

fleet hawk
#

Damn

keen summit
#

on how strong hardlight can be

rare trail
#

ram might shape up to be stronger than doom too

keen summit
#

ram is mystery

rare trail
#

isn’t there smth about hardlight making a skyscraper in a blink of an eye

keen summit
#

if he can use those nanobots for even more than well what we know now
creating his arms, staff, dmging and pulling people down'

keen summit
#

sym has potential to be stronger tho, like how it is with doom and orisa where its kinda a mystery. cuz even tho maybe doom beats sym, generally she is stronger

merry token
keen summit
#

same with orisa, orisa is built specifically to defeat doom, so orisa defeating doom is logical

#

but we dont know how she matches up with the rest

#

sigma has potential to be one of the strongest, but we just dont know the limits

#

if his gravity has no limits, he could crush any hero to a puddle

fleet hawk
#

But how can orisa be strong didn’t doom destroy a some models that look like orisa on nubani

keen summit
fleet hawk
#

Oh so they weren’t nearly as strong

keen summit
#

she was specifically made for it now so she can even passively take a doom punch

keen summit
#

orisa is actually insane

wind wind
#

nah efi is insane

#

how old is she again

#

thats wild

rare trail
#

13 I think

keen summit
#

yeah she was 11 i think

rare trail
#

she’s in high school

#

11 sounds right yea

keen summit
#

yeah highschool is different in my country so i wouldnt know

rare trail
#

High school at least in the us is like 14-18

#

she is stated to be young for high school and skipped a few grades

#

I’m not sure how school age stuff works in numbani

keen summit
#

no clue

rare trail
#

her 11 year old friends are in a different school

keen summit
#

but shes around 11

rare trail
#

yea

merry token
keen summit
rare trail
#

it might just be the us system iirc they say her friends are in elementary or middle school

keen summit
#

its one of the few locations that doesnt exist irl in ow

keen summit
#

but for example here you graduate from middle school from 16 to 18 depending on education

#

and then you choose a dedicated direction of career

merry token
#

I mean, we could technically go off of the Nigerian school system as Numbani is supposed to be somewhere near there

rare trail
#

Numbani is in Nigeria in ow right?

merry token
#

Yeah

keen summit
rare trail
#

ok so yea that lines up

keen summit
#

but yeah around 11

#

she may be one of the smartest characters

#

like the fact shes gotten this far at age 11

merry token
#

She is a child prodigy

#

So yeah 😭

keen summit
#

the only reason why i cant say the smartest is cuz sigma may know a shitton cuz of his understanding of the universe

rare trail
#

I forgot there was like an anti omnic racist kid in hero of numbani lol

keen summit
#

but we dont know how much is crazed delerious stuff and how much is really the truth

#

i mean if its true that he understands the meaning of the universe.

merry token
#

He’s still a genius physicist, just not all there

rare trail
#

I wouldnt call him a psycho

keen summit
rare trail
#

psycho means that like he doesn’t really have empathy or regret but he does

keen summit
#

sigma is above 60 and spend decades researching

merry token
keen summit
#

while efi basically whipped up orisa

merry token
#

Like efi excels at engineering while sigma excels at physics

keen summit
#

hes just crazy

rare trail
#

idk

merry token
#

Wouldn’t use psycho. Probably just mentally unstable

rare trail
#

could just call him a goober

keen summit
#

the only like, confirmed psycho we have is mauga

#

reaper has regrets

#

and had empathy

merry token
rare trail
#

maybe widow? she does seem to have something for Gerard though

keen summit
#

that was hella fake

merry token
#

And yeah, she’s seen visiting gerard’s grave with flowers

keen summit
merry token
#

No? 😭

#

Their game interactions show that she only uses him for his research

#

And that that’s the only reason she keeps up with his antics

tiny dune
#

is sigma chad

stuck stump
#

what is zarya like

opaque scroll
#

´bro what 💀

#

moira like despises sigma

hollow tinsel
static comet
#

Moira is always mocking sigma

#

Who Moria likes is Cass

#

He flirts with her start of every game lmao

twilit patrol
#

What do you mean ?

hollow tinsel
#

He's legit just complimenting her bro they ain't flirting

twilit patrol
#

Cass doesn't give a sh.t about her

hollow tinsel
#

Fr

worthy rose
#

IRONCLAD

dreamy epoch
#

moira and cassidy are on the verge of being enemies but they're still old acquaintances

#

it's the same way cass pokes fun or jives with reaper

near spruce
#

Can someone please explain what roadhogs health pot is

peak escarp
near spruce
peak escarp
#

it doesn't in the lore

#

that's just for gameplay

chilly badge
#

Is Winton a Monkey or a Scientist?!

twilit patrol
covert sequoia
#

Does anyone else think the season 5 battlepass is canon like the characters in universe playing dnd before they go off against null sector and the skins they have represent the ocs they made?

dreamy epoch
#

well when you say canon

#

it very well could exist
however one can't really prove that it does because overwatch events advance at a snail's pace and I'm not sure where all the respective characters playing the game are

limpid agate
#

Some of them have never met

#

Like Tracer and Orisa

#

Or Mei and Hanzo

#

Mei shouldnt even know Hanzo exists

peak escarp
#

it's a hypothetical

#

like the voice lines

#

if the heroes played D&D together, here's how it might go

worthy rose
wary sable
#

Ironclad

glacial jolt
#

Funny how pharah gets a devil skin right after she comes out as a lesbian

peak escarp
#

to match Mercy's devil skin

hollow tinsel
#

Didn't phara already have a demon skin or am I tripping

merry token
#

Uhhh she has a hades skin

weary slate
subtle saffron
#

I dont get it are lgbt demon

merry token
#

No

peak escarp
#

it's just a cool skin design

#

has nothing to do with Pharah being a lesbian

merry token
#

It’s somewhat funny just cause the character in their profile picture is from an anime in which a sapphic coded character becomes the devil 😭

subtle saffron
#

Oh

frail berry
#

yall fw the lore?

tacit venture
#

Hit the griddy

loud aurora
ocean depot
#

Like there is a bunch of factions right like overwatch, talon, junkers, shimadas and stuff right? Should be accurate if the good guys have a meet

keen summit
#

not necessarilly

#

the only like real good guys faction is overwatch

#

shimadas are basically gone

#

junkers just kinda exist

grand wedge
#

There is the Collective (that we just know of are a bunch of scientists with actual standards and ethics it seems)

#

the Yokai ( kiriko's gang)
and the archeologist faction that have been tease all those years ago but are probably just a red herring now...

keen summit
#

who knows maybe the peru hero has something to them

#

cuz she has inca inspiration

lavish vessel
keen summit
#

namely cuz orisa

#

the rest funnily enough unless if im missing someone could actually work

#

zen could be brought in by genji cuz its genji and zen loves a bit of trolling.

#

zen would say shit like i read the stars to see if genji will shut up

#

in a nice way

#

but orisa unless brought in by lucio + just the thing that well... null sector makes it indeed highly unlikely

lavish vessel
#

Oh yeah ik ik, I’m not saying it’s canon or anything. Just a nice headcanon I have about it lol. I did see somehwere that genji wanted to bring zen into overwatch tho

#

Idk how true that is

keen summit
#

and zen wouldnt be interested

lavish vessel
#

Ah alright thx for clearing that up

keen summit
#

zen is well the balanced one. mondatta and ramattra were yin and yang

#

thats the symbolism between the three

#

mondatta was basically all about only peace but never really took drastic actions. ramattra decided to make the choice for omnics and take action while zen help induviduals, allows them to take actions for themselves and personally. instead of mondatta or ramattra who tried to fix the entire problem

uneven tulip
#

I like how when doomfist kills the previous leader of talon after finding out that he turn the organization into a mafia, the very first thing he says right after is “shit bro we need a bloody war rn”

opaque tundra
#

There’s a gameimformer (I think?) article that detailed someone’s experience playing the Toronto mission. They mention that in the outro, “Genji thinks it’s a good idea to recruit Zenyatta”

#

But yeah I don’t think zen would agree unless it was for the purpose of keeping him away from danger

arctic crystal
#

Anyone feel like Sombras whole personality is shes Mexican

#

like fr They coulda done so much with her

worthy rose
unique void
#

how does the omnitrix fit into the lore?

worthy rose
worthy rose
#

what

peak escarp
golden oak
#

Moira Talking about Echo’s predecessor means Athena or Aurora

peak escarp
#

Aurora

honest spear
peak escarp
#

!!shitposting @honest spear

twilit nacelleBOT
#

@honest spear Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

split lagoon
#

Bro got mini modded

peak escarp
#

mini modded?

#

that only applies when it's not a mod

hollow tinsel
twilit patrol
#

Doc isn't a ''bro''

mellow stratus
dreamy epoch
#

doc with the ultimate flex

worthy rose
#

um actually

minor nexus
#

I didn’t know 76 was gay, is there any lore that shows this 👀

rare trail
#

bastet

#

!!lorestories

twilit nacelleBOT
#

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rare trail
minor nexus
#

Curious MercyMhm

twilit patrol
rustic sinew
golden oak
peak escarp
#

because Dr. Liao made Aurora before she made Echo

twilit patrol
golden oak
#

So when was Athena created

peak escarp
#

also before Echo

#

but Athena isn't important or known to the wider world

hollow tinsel
#

What's Athena?

#

And aurora?

peak escarp
#

Athena is the AI that runs the computers in Watchpoint Gibraltar (also she's the announcer in the game)

#

Aurora was the first sentient omnic who transcended so she could give sentience to all omnics

vocal marsh
#

You mean Aurora?

peak escarp
#

yes thank you

hollow tinsel
#

Thanks!

#

But what do you mean by "transcended"? Like, she passed down sentience to other omnics?

rare trail
#

like sacrificed herself

#

basically died

#

i think the word transcended was used bc of the name of zens ult

golden oak
peak escarp
#

true

#

but Athena isn't notable, and isn't considered Dr. Liao's greatest achievement

wind portal
#

Athena might have mild sentience if we look at the winston cinematic

peak escarp
#

she's an AI

humble plume
#

Hey just an idea. So we've all seen cinematic genji and he's ridiculously powerful. Y'all think cinematic genji solos everyone besides sigma?

peak escarp
#

no

#

Genji is mid

#

he's not ridiculously powerful at all

rare trail
#

cinematic genji lost to doom

#

and we know orisa and winston are stronger than doom

humble plume
#

Yeah but cinematic genji sliced the arm of a robot Winton was gonna die to

#

In one strike

peak escarp
#

rule of cool

#

he's only as strong as the plot needs

rare trail
#

genji is a glass cannon

peak escarp
#

he beat Hanzo, but Hanzo isn't very strong

rare trail
#

but there are also people who are stronger than cannons in overwatch lore so

#

like genji is pretty strong but not like ridiculously powerful

#

top 10 though

humble plume
#

So with his cinematic superspeed, teleportation, blade of dragon stuff

#

And super precision

rare trail
#

teleportation?

humble plume
#

Yeah

rare trail
#

???

peak escarp
#

he doesn't teleport

#

that's ninja misdirection

humble plume
#

He put two hands together then turned into blossoms or smoke

rare trail
#

?

#

at the very end?

humble plume
#

At the end of the dragons cinematic

peak escarp
#

he has superspeed because he's a cyborg - Sojourn can do it too

humble plume
#

But then he also did that tracer thing when hanzo was shooting arrows

rare trail
#

?

#

genji cant blink

humble plume
#

He basically did in the thing

rare trail
#

at the very end he does kinda just disappear

image.png
#

rule of cool ig

humble plume
#

Travelled 6 to 10 feet ina blink

rare trail
humble plume
#

Let me see if I can find it

rare trail
#

he can dash

rare trail
humble plume
#

Yeah that

rare trail
#

hes just going fast

#

like his dash in game

humble plume
#

Oh well. Thanks anyways

worthy rose
#

is hanzo apart of overwatch now? in the quest watch thing mei mentioned making ice sculptures with him

rare trail
#

nah hanzo isnt apart of overwatch yet

#

maybe in the future but as of rn no

worthy rose
#

dang

rare trail
#

he has a short story coming up

#

with kiri probably

worthy rose
#

oh is there a release date

rare trail
#

october iirc

#

its on amazon

worthy rose
#

oh

peak escarp
austere agate
#

genji is very cool to me

worthy rose
austere agate
#

leave him alone

peak escarp
#

well it's characters who haven't met playing D&D together

worthy rose
#

they might’ve met

peak escarp
#

I'm 100% certain it's not canon

worthy rose
#

i’m 100% certain it is canon

peak escarp
#

why

old viper
#

!lfg druvk

vocal marsh
#

Why isn’t it canon?

peak escarp
#

because these characters haven't met in the story yet

#

specifically, Orisa hasn't joined Overwatch yet

rare trail
#

who are the characters involved in the dnd campaign thing

#

tracer lifeweaver zen genji rein orisa tracer emily

#

echo?

vocal marsh
#

Emily Tracer Orisa Echo Genji Mei Reinhardt

rare trail
#

arent lifeweaver and zen getting skins for it?

vocal marsh
#

Corresponding to levels 1, 10, 20, 40, 70

#

They have skins

#

But they aren’t in the Questwatch storyline

#

I don’t think so at least

#

Zen for sure isn’t

vocal marsh
#

And therefore don’t have corresponding Questwatch levels

tepid sinew
#

on tracers suit why does she need those big ass forearm things?

#

i obviously get the chest thing is to control herself but the arm things are just kinda there

young yew
#

Let's make doomfist lore accurate

#

I don't care what anyone says

austere agate
#

what does that even mean

young yew
#

He's strong in the lore but I game is much weaker

rare trail
tepid sinew
keen summit
#

Theyre holsters

tepid sinew
#

💯

#

then im just confused if the guns are going in them like physically or not cuz the ow2 made em smaller and her guns dont look theyd fit in it

radiant gyro
#

i finaly got my rank

twilit patrol
#

!!loreonly

twilit nacelleBOT
#

This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

worthy rose
young yew
#

I can agree

merry token
#

Idk about zen

stuck stump
#

is ashe a genuinely evil person

rare trail
#

nah

#

i mean shes probably killed people and she steals and stuff

#

but shes just looking out for herself its not malicious

opaque scroll
#

i wouldnt necessarily call her straight up evil

#

but bad? yeah for sure

worthy rose
#

Doom>every lore

rare trail
#

doom lore is cool

#

i love the idea that originally the doomfist was a sign for peace and justice but now its been changed

worthy rose
#

Doom or sig whos stronger

high nova
rare trail
#

probably sig

#

no feats though

high nova
#

what are the lore implication of sigma being schezio

rare trail
#

not much

#

sigma isnt very involved in the lore

worthy rose
#

Doom 2inw

rare trail
#

rn hes just doing vague "research" for talon

worthy rose
#

Wins

rare trail
#

i doubt it

#

sig would probably win

high nova
#

sig is kinda op

worthy rose
#

Why

rare trail
#

gravity powers

worthy rose
#

Hmmm

#

Does that mean he can make a black hole?

rare trail
#

we dont know

worthy rose
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Doom can just punch out of it

rare trail
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hes never made a black hole before

high nova
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i am a doom main

worthy rose
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W

rare trail
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we dont really know how strong sigs grav powers are but theyre probably strong enough to beat doom

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its not like doom is unbeatable either like winton and orisa beat doom

high nova
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doom beat tracer tho

rare trail
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ok?

high nova
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and tracer can literally jump

rare trail
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tracer isnt insanely strong or anything

high nova
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between time i think

rare trail
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kinda

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she can blink which is like a short range teleport

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and recall where she can move her position to where she was before

high nova
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so doom got precision but idk how that gonna work against black hole

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i think s tier are

rare trail
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top 4 are sym winston orisa sig

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5-6 is reaper doom

high nova
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SIG and ramattra or zenyatta prolly and sym

rare trail
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ram?

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zen?

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theyre just reg omnics

high nova
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ahi forgot

rare trail
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like even junker queen has beaten ram before

high nova
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lmao

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i thought

rare trail
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well rams model

high nova
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they could

rare trail
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not ram himself

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rams nemesis isnt canon

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hes probably like b tier

stuck stump
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who hasnt made any appearances in the lore yet

high nova
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ah then its low

rare trail
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everyone has some appearance in lore

high nova
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so sig sym and hanzo

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zuz hanzo got dragon

rare trail
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hanzo?

austere agate
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technically everyone exists in lore lol

rare trail
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genji has beaten hanzo before

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sigma hasnt made any appearances besides for his origin

high nova
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hanzo has beaten genji too

austere agate
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when they were younger

high nova
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and he was taken aback by surprise really

rare trail
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hanzo is just a guy with a bow and arrow

austere agate
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and before he had his cyborg body

high nova
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because he saw that dragon

rare trail
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hanzo isnt that strong

high nova
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who can reverse hanzo dragon except genji sig probably

rare trail
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dragonstrike has never like really hurt something

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the most its done is like tire out hanzo? maybe?

austere agate
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did tracer and genji join overwatch at the same time?

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seems like they were often on missions together