lore-discussion

[merry token]

She def cares about him

[upbeat violet]

yeah but we’ve yet to see her true motives with sigma

[merry token]

I doubt it’s malicious

[ivory garnet]

he’s leader of Null Sector

[past copper]

Null Sector and Talon are just working together

Classic: The enemy of my enemy is my friend

I doubt Ram is happy having to work with Talon

But if it furthers his goal, he'll work with them

At least until one of them out lives their usefulness

Who you think more likely to betray the other first?

Doom or Ram

[left monolith]

Quick question: Why did they decide to make Baptise and Pharah gay?

[vocal marsh]

Knowing big companies, to make the people happy

[peak escarp]

because representation and diversity are important

[left monolith]

yeah probably

[peak escarp]

a better question is, why not?

[left monolith]

uhhhhh bc it wasnt like that before ig

[peak escarp]

the story is progressing forward, so naturally things will change

[lavish vessel]

Bap has always been fruity in his voice lines, and pharah has had her thing with mercy for a while. It’s not like they suddenly changed them

[north walrus]

hi

og wrong chat umm

[limpid agate]

Pharah doesnt have a thing with Mercy

[upbeat violet]

some lines in the recent comic imply there might be something going on

possibly one sided

i mean

short story

not comic

[worthy rose]

She used to have a crush on her

[limpid agate]

And

[worthy rose]

And

[ivory garnet]

doesnt mean they have something going on

its most probably one sided

[worthy rose]

Yea

[lavish vessel]

Read the new short story they made, it’s super wholesome

[lavish vessel]

Oh I don’t mean they’re dating lol

Not yet atleast :)

[ivory garnet]

its not likely they are

or will

[ivory garnet]

nothing implies they’re in a relationship

most likely playable character relationship is Genji and Mercy

[lavish vessel]

I just said I didn’t mean they’re in a relationship lol

[limber pier]

Someones defensive

[ivory garnet]

its not defensive

its siding with the most implied

[limber pier]

Mhmmmm

[limber pier]

Yeah I thought that was cute. I like the imagery .

[limber pier]

Just waiting for them to do a roadhog and junk rat one now 🤣

[peak escarp]

not going to happen

[limber pier]

It was a joke

[peak escarp]

this is a serious discussion channel

[silk ridge]

Effective damage control

[silk ridge]

I honestly thought the phamercy line only started because of theyre both flying heroes

[peak escarp]

that is why it started

but the writers are acknowledging the community

[silk ridge]

They are?

[peak escarp]

well, they know that part of the community expects Pharah and Mercy to have a relationship

otherwise why bring her up in the short story?

[limber pier]

Well if they were acknowledging the community they’d probably do a thing with genji and mercy

[silk ridge]

Didnt really read the short story but mercy was mentioned?

[peak escarp]

yes

[limber pier]

Idrc about them but that seems more popular given the fan base

[peak escarp]

Baptiste asked if Pharah knew her, and Pharah's answer was complicated

[silk ridge]

Feels like more of an overwatch trouble thing than a relationship thing but ok

We'll see next pride month

[peak escarp]

there has been quite a bit between Genji and Mercy

[silk ridge]

Personally i just see the whole thing as damage control

[peak escarp]

damage control?

[wind portal]

mercy already likes genji

[silk ridge]

Yknow.... the whole thing with pve

[limber pier]

Seems a common theme these days

[silk ridge]

I thought this would continue in overwatch 2 but it didnt

[limber pier]

Still nice to get more lore stuff tho

[silk ridge]

Just worldbuilding but yeah

[lavish vessel]

Yeah same, really well made

[peak escarp]

the Pride event was announced back in April

[wind portal]

it did continue

[limber pier]

They probably knew about the pve shutdown before then

[silk ridge]

Theyve nary an interaction

[lavish vessel]

Need more Junkrat and Roadhog lore stuff, they’re amazing lmao

[limber pier]

Yeah and it’s interesting because they’re not on the two main sides, and just kinda doing their own thing

[lavish vessel]

Yeah exactly, the junkers as a whole are super interesting imo

[limber pier]

Yeah the junker queen cinematic was the best we’ve had in a while, I love the world building in junker town and that whole vibe

[limber pier]

I mean when are characters that use literal scrap for armour not cool 🤣

[lavish vessel]

Very good point lol

[lavish vessel]

/\ this, makes for such a fun map and yeah I loved that jq cinematic so much

[limber pier]

One think I’d have liked to see was Hammond mentioned in there

I feel like he’s mostly neglected in lord considering he’s one of the most interesting characters in the game abilities wise

[round merlin]

all of the cinematics are fire. i like watching videos where it like groups them all together and played them back to back

[peak escarp]

contrary to popular belief, the dev team doesn't do "damage control" releases

it's just a lot of bad timing

[limber pier]

Back to this?

Let it go dude

[limber pier]

Ooh yes

I remember I had a phase where I’d just watch YouTubers reacting to all the cinematics

I feel like even for people who don’t care about the game they know overwatch from those cinematics

[merry token]

Dragons was the reason I joined this server

[limber pier]

Honestly that got me into this game aha

[lavish vessel]

Yeah that would’ve made it perfect

[lavish vessel]

Oh yeah I’ve done that on multiple occasions, I’d love to see a full movie lol

[ivory garnet]

Hammond wasnt even at Junkertown by the time JQ cinematic happened

[limber pier]

Yeah but it showed her parents being thrown out of junkertown in the past

It could have cut to the part where Hammond crash lands at the end of the cinematic

Like a teaser

[ivory garnet]

i guess

but that would just lead into Hammond origin story

which we already have

[limber pier]

We already know it but it would just be nice to have him mentioned in another cinematic

Cuz all we really have is brief glimpses of him from Winstons origin

[ivory garnet]

to be fair

he WAS in JQ cinematic

[ivory garnet]

^^^

[sand widget]

Lmao Cassidy fine asl

[ivory garnet]

eh

Cassidy aint that old

Soj is yeah

only looks young due to her cybernetics

[dreamy epoch]

man I honestly forgot about the wastelander

I feel like it had some really good moments but it didn't hit the mark completely

[errant minnow]

Is ana still a better sniper than widow? Based on her looks I'm guessing she's 70 years old atleast. She probably has a slower reaction time.

[peak escarp]

Ana is 60

[shadow marsh]

Seems like it's implied here that they knew the pilot of Wrecking Ball is a hamster. I remembered before no one knew that he was.

[cedar hedge]

was he even born yet 💀

[ivory garnet]

yeah

most likely

not a certain answer tho

[cedar hedge]

idk I guess it depends when jq became queen

[humble junco]

💀

[dark geyser]

hmmm I wonder who the better sniper is
the one whos called Ana, or the one who was named what they are for killing so many people

[rare trail]

widowmaker is probably named that because she killed her husband not because she killed so many people

ana and widow have actually fought before and ana lost because she hesitated and widow was able to tank a headshot because of a helmet

[bronze flint]

does junkrat have a mom?

[rare trail]

probably

[charred dune]

winsston is paart monkey

[rare trail]

wdym part monkey

hes just like fully gorilla

[civic island]

We NEED more cinematics about the heros and null sector

Idk if I spelled it right

[rare trail]

there is a soj one in the works

pve release should bring some

[civic island]

Hopefully

[rare trail]

not really a topic for this channel

!!rule4

[twilit nacelle]

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NSFW or objectionable content of any kind is prohibited. If you are unsure whether something is NSFW, you should refrain from posting it. This includes user profiles.

[twilit patrol]

Greetings

[worthy rose]

Windowmaker

[dreamy epoch]

I think at this point it should be widowmaker

[limpid agate]

What should be

[dreamy epoch]

better sniper
though there isn't really a good way to measure that considering

all we have is one duel they had and a couple of feats from both

years ago

[peak escarp]

at their peak, Ana was better

present day, Widowmaker is at her peak, and Ana is retired and tired of fighting

[dreamy epoch]

man...

I need these story missions now...

an actual breadcrumb or something

[peak escarp]

3 more months

[upbeat violet]

i can't wait

ahhh i wish it was sooner

hopefully the quality will be more since hero missions arent being released now

[inner carbon]

Who's behind null sector

[worthy rose]

Ramattra

[inner carbon]

Oh wait really

I guess that flew completely over my head

[foggy cloak]

Soldier 76 is gay 🗣️

When is the hanzo x 76 love story

Canon ?

[upbeat violet]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[open bough]

will pharah and mercy ever get together

[peak escarp]

probably not

[ivory garnet]

probably end relationship is Genji and Mercy

probable*

[past copper]

So, who would you say is the most interesting hero?

Based on their story

[worthy rose]

Reaper

Though I like Winston more even if he isn't as interesting story wise

[opal vault]

Honestly Genji and Hanzos story is pretty good

[grand wedge]

The old soldiers. Ana, Jack, Gabriel, Sojourn, Rein.

[lavish vessel]

Reaper or ramattra personally

Every heroes story is awesome tho

[buoyant steppe]

Hanzo better not be gay bruh

[lavish vessel]

I highly doubt he will be, he seems like he wouldn’t get into relationships tbh. Hopefully we get some more of him and genji in pve

[quiet rune]

Also the Hanzo book is coming out

The earlier PvE missions will prob focus on the current OW crew

Like the ones in the big OW2 animatic

And the ones from the recent comic: New Blood

And the ones from the recent comic: New Blood

The earlier PvE missions will prob focus on the current OW crew

[honest spear]

Lucioooooo

Arguably the only hero who has had an exclusively positive effect on the world

[worthy rose]

Widowmaker

Her lore is so sad

[foggy cloak]

The homophobia 💀 wild

[buoyant steppe]

No I just don’t hanzo to be gay😭

Anyone but hanzo

[lavish vessel]

Zen too, and I think Orisa.

[past copper]

Lifeweaver

He's saving the environment

Something that only greedy business corporations hate

[manic birch]

@tawdry cliff 1minute, just check

[worthy rose]

That is homophobic

[quiet rune]

Not really…

Actually wait yea it is

But not as severe

As it’s a fictional character

[honest spear]

born into rich family/spends time working for vishkar

[past copper]

No. He doesn't

Do not know anything bout Lifeweaver? And everything he's doing

[honest spear]

Orisa I wanna see a montage like in the first Shazam movie of her learning not to smash people's cars and control her strength with efi

[past copper]

Just read Hero of Numbani

[lavish vessel]

Lmao yeah I’d love that

[lavish vessel]

Oh alright ty

[fleet shore]

i hope widow like wakes up

[peak escarp]

Widowmaker knows what she's doing

she chose to have her emotions supressed

[vocal marsh]

He’s a thief though

[peak escarp]

you can be a thief and still have a positive effect on the world

[vocal marsh]

Yes but that counteracts being exclusively positive

[quiet drift]

you can't be exclusively positive if you think of it like that

[vocal marsh]

But he thought that what he stole was rightfully his

[quiet drift]

for example by helping protect the environment you cause problems to big corporations so it's automatically not universally positive

[quiet drift]

remind of the lore please

didn't he basically steal stuff from a massive corporation

?

[vocal marsh]

His weapon is made by his dad while he was working for Vishkar

[supple laurel]

I keep talking about this to anyone who'll listen, Symmy has had more of an emotional development than anyone else in the Overwatch universe

[upbeat violet]

i mean she's had the time to have that development

some other characters don't get that amount of screen time

or comic time (?)

[supple laurel]

I cannot WAIT for the day when she confronts Sanjay.

[supple laurel]

and yet she's still kind of a "side" character in the Overwatch story, like she's a side plot compared to the new bloods, etc

[merry token]

Being born into a rich family wasn’t really a choice he could make lol. He ended up leaving Vishkar and and became a wanted criminal because he wanted to share his biolight technology with the world for those who were in need

[hot drum]

what’s tracer lore

learning her lore will make me better

[worthy rose]

pharmercy ?!??!?! 😼

[dreamy epoch]

symm is a character yes
she's just not the one they happen to focus on as of now

I'd say that area that lies within vishkar to junkertown in terms of outside factions that don't truly connect to overwatch were made to flesh out the world

however going forward it may be a bit more difficult to integrate them into the story regarding null sector because they're sort of isolated from it until there's a good reason for them to be brought into the story

[supple laurel]

she absolutely should be focused on more though, I feel like they've got this amazing potential with symm to just keep diving into her complex character

[dreamy epoch]

which can easily exist in a campaign like any campaign

I do think she could get a bit more ingame now that lifeweaver exists

I've yet to watch his interactions but he seems even more distanced from the whole big network thing that sombra has going on

[supple laurel]

I think she's definetly one of the more... complex characters of the Overwatch universe, like there's so many different plotlines for her:

• Vishkar
• The temple / Zen
• Lucio
• Lifeweaver

[supple laurel]

I fucking love Symmetra wanting basically nothing to do with Sombra aside from getting information out of her

she really said "I ain't messing with that bitch-"

[fleet shore]

i mean wakes up and like realises she made the wrong choice

[limpid agate]

What do you mean

She wakes up every morning and goes back to doing her usual business as a Talon Sniper

She's not going to wake up one morning and think "Merde this was a terrible decision, I'm going to quit this job that I love."

[fleet shore]

man i’m just saying i hope she wakes up mentally not literally

i hope she like gets a redemption arc kind of thing

[wind portal]

she chooses to do this, at any point in time she could've left but she choose to stay with talon

[stuck stump]

blizzard anouced plans to "revisit older characters identities", any ideas o what that could mean?

[merry token]

Most likely not. It’s just Pharah’s crush that’s been confirmed, and not the other way around. Cool madoka pfp though

[fleet shore]

please i’m not saying she isn’t i’m just saying at some point i hope she does 😭

[opaque notch]

ts too damn deep for my high ass

[upbeat violet]

not confirmed really

just implied (kind of?)

unless i have reading difficulties

[merry token]

Pretty implied

[worthy rose]

Genji is a shamada

🤑🤑🤑🤑

[quiet rune]

I’m not sure if this is shitposting

[cedar hedge]

wait, like, originally?

[peak escarp]

that was added when they updated her bio for OW2

so it's a bit of a retcon

[keen summit]

Oh wow

Need to read what they changed

[dreamy epoch]

the bio incident

[vernal sundial]

So does orisa visit dr Miami for a bbl in lore or ?

[umbral zephyr]

Junkrat is a Furry

Very good

He is a crazy man though

Also roadhog and junkrat are apparently together according to one reddit post

[quiet rune]

Shitposting

[lavish vessel]

Wait she did??

That’s interesting

[keen summit]

Yeah they changed it

[somber heath]

Who is Fs part of lgbtq in the lore?

[safe oriole]

What

[somber heath]

What hero’s in overwatch are part of lgbtq?

[safe oriole]

Soldier, tracer, Pharah, baptiste, lifeweaver

[somber heath]

Ohh ok

Thank you

[safe oriole]

Np

[wind portal]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[umbral zephyr]

I mean look, he's pretty much called a rat, he even calls himself that

I actually don't know what to say

Like it kinda makes sense right?

I'm not even shitposting

It's a serious question

Also is, junkrat and roadhog actually Together?

Or is that a rumour

[quiet rune]

Don’t double down bruh

[safe oriole]

No, roadhog is only in it for the money

[wind portal]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[peak escarp]

just because he's called a rat doesn't make him a furry

if he dressed up as a rat, then maybe

[upbeat violet]

isn’t it because junk-rat

[dark geyser]

grow up

[quiet rune]

Grow down

[upbeat violet]

wanting a channel to be treated and written in seriously is not immature

[opaque scroll]

☝️

[lavish vessel]

A rumour, there is a funny interaction between Junkrat and lifeweaver about it

“Are u and Roadhog together”
“Have u ever seen us apart??”
“No I mean are u a couple??”
“A couple of dashing rogues!”

Something like that

[cedar hedge]

junkrat doesn't even consider that they might be in a relationship

[quiet rune]

Then they are prob not

Also I realized recently that Moira straight up deadnames Orisa in a voice interaction

[safe oriole]

Yeah

[zenith mango]

Cool

[stuck stump]

any new lore?

[honest spear]

so the early-day theories about mercy was that she was a part of OG overwatch but her heal technology stopped her from aging as much as rein or torb or ana, did that get changed?

Bc I've believed that up until now

[peak escarp]

it was an incorrect theory

[vocal marsh]

I don’t think that was ever true

[peak escarp]

Mercy was not an original member

she's only 37

[vocal marsh]

She’s like 2nd Generation

Along with like Moira Cassidy etc

[honest spear]

so she just ages gracefully, no dark magic at work

[vocal marsh]

She was quite young when she joined Overwatch

I think 19 but my memory is bad so

[peak escarp]

22

people see this image and think Mercy was already a member as a teenager

but she was just visiting Torbjorn from university

she didn't join Overwatch until later

[merry token]

Reinhardt is humongous 😭😭

[peak escarp]

he is a large lad

[graceful hatch]

Who is the person on the very left? Am I just dumb?

[past copper]

I mean, something like was explored in a fanmade rap between Rat and Hog

It's not lore, but a fun way to explain who the two are

[past copper]

Kind of an unknown for now

Tho, some people think he's one of the hidden members of the Talon Council

[solemn dagger]

is lucio the next lgbtq character??? (i will be very happy)

[rare trail]

we dont know

[solemn dagger]

:(

[glacial sparrow]

its bap

[indigo yacht]

lucio hot

[twilit patrol]

Lucio is a cute guy

[hollow tinsel]

That would be crazyyy

[dreamy onyx]

who’s the guy on the left crouching

is that genji

[merry token]

No, old overwatch member

[past copper]

Not really

Reaper and Moira were apart of Overwatch

Before they joined Talon

[hollow tinsel]

I don't know. I think it would be cool if he would be a character

[peak escarp]

we don't know

[surreal pumice]

Yeye and than moira got kicked of experiments but reaper hires her for blackwatch

[past copper]

Wrong place buddy

[spice vale]

Nuh uh

[past copper]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[spice vale]

Nuh uh

[twilit patrol]

And dey say

[cobalt yacht]

Hi so who is effi

[grand wedge]

She is Orisa creator

Efi Oladele, a brilliant girl whose early accomplishments in robotics and artificial intelligence had already earned her the Adawe Foundation's prestigious "genius grant."

With the approval of her understanding and open-minded parents, Efi spent the bulk of her grant money to acquire one of the decommissioned OR15 bots. She believed that Numbani needed a protector and that an upgraded OR15 could do just that. Efi repaired and reconfigured the robot and installed a personality core that she had designed herself.

She named Numbani's newest hero Orisa.

[barren cipher]

it would be cool if canonically, efi could pilot orisa like one of those eva units or gundam type of stuff.

[cobalt yacht]

Thanks

[grand wedge]

Orisa is her own person. DVA (and MEKA Squad) and Hammond are the mech pilots in Overwatch 🙂

[mellow stratus]

And dey say

[cobalt yacht]

Wait is there a reason why talon wanted gepard dead

[twilit patrol]

Gepard ?

[main sage]

I guess she got more experience than widow

I think that as long as null sector exists there won’t be peace between humans and Omnics

Imagine like

We could experience all of this lore in game

That would be awesome

Imagine like

We had a trailer saying “excuse me sir, does this mean overwatch is back?” And then like Winston says yes

And like

Even if blizzard would delay it 2 times it would still be awesome after let’s say 4 years

And I’m sure blizzard won’t disappoint us

[errant minnow]

I thought orisa was like modified by her, not necceserally created

[grand wedge]

She bought the destroyed OR-15 body - she gave her a heart and a soul

[stuck stump]

will we be getting more lore tomorrow?

[twilit patrol]

I don't think so

[lavish vessel]

Not that ik of, but we are getting the sojourn cinematic with s5 which is next week

[limpid agate]

At some point in s5

Not necessarily the start

[ivory garnet]

most likely mid season patch if I had to say

[past copper]

I mean, the cinematic would probably drop before the next season to boost player hype

Since there isn't a new hero or map this season

Not unless they show off a modified map for Questwatch

Which I'll bet you a rack of smoked ribs will be Eichenwaldt

[lavish vessel]

Ohh okie

Ty for letting me know

[lavish vessel]

Yeah most likely

It fits the whole theme

[quiet rune]

When does the trailer usually drop btw?

[past copper]

It varies but most things typically drop on Tuesdays

[quiet rune]

Ok

Usually they drop a few days befor

But ima stop talking about it now

[ivory garnet]

they drop a few days before for NEW characters

Sojourn isnt a new character being added in s5

[quiet rune]

I meant the trailer but yea

[limpid agate]

The cinematic can appear at any point during the season. Probably during the xbox event on the 11th

[vast gulch]

it doesn't, actually, go post somewhere else

i will

[limpid agate]

The trailer for the season itself is probably gonna drop on Monday

They tend to save that for the day before

For whatever reason

[novel ermine]

I'm excited to see Murphy tbh!! That little tease from a while ago was enough to make me look forward to seeing that pup!

[sacred hinge]

Wait, was Overwatch a private militia or government owned?

[novel ermine]

Government, no? I believe the United Nations created Overwatch?

[opaque scroll]

Yes

[honest spear]

Talon seems to be privately owned/operated through dark money

[novel ermine]

Yeah that seems accurate

Genuine question, does anyone like care about character relationships/dynamics that much (not specifically romantic)? That's what I love the most but barely got anyone to talk to about stuff like that. 😭

[merry token]

Yeah, I’m quite interested in the little mentorship(?) between Symmetra and Zenyatta

[hasty socket]

could murphy be a overwatch character

[peak escarp]

no

[honest spear]

I cared for that stuff when I expected they would expand on the lore at all, after PvE announcement I don't really care. And the cinematics are great but don't have the best dialogue IMO, so not expecting characters to be built up anymore besides one-off lines in PvP

[novel ermine]

Oooo tbh I don't pay attention to them much but I definitely think it's cool that he opened her eyes a bit

[novel ermine]

Not unless you want a little dog shooting at you LOL

[novel ermine]

Ah fair, I guess I understand. 😭

I'm very much still excited for the story missions hehe, the Archives event was my favorite one

[hasty socket]

murphy chould be a sombra abbility

[upbeat violet]

people shooting at a dog seems like a court case

[leaden reef]

We shoot at a hampster

[twilit patrol]

[novel ermine]

OH TRUE

[novel ermine]

Wait 💀

[upbeat violet]

he’s covered in armor

if Murphy were to be the same people would complain about adding basically the same character

[novel ermine]

Just make Murphy be Sojourn's ult duhhh /j

[twilit patrol]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[novel ermine]

Damn 😔

Anyway, fun fact about me I guess: one of my unfortunate friends have had to listen to my insane ramblings about voice lines lmao

[upbeat violet]

I don’t wanna be a bummer but this is not the place to talk about that

[novel ermine]

Oh wait, does appreciating what a voice line says about a character not count as lore discussion? I thought it would. No I don't mean headcanons.

[peak escarp]

except they're still doing story missions and building the lore through animation and writing

[peak escarp]

this is the right place for that

[novel ermine]

Ohhh okay, thank you for answering. 🙏😢

[ivory garnet]

PvE is still a thing lol, only thing that got removed was a non-canon gamemode

[novel ermine]

Thank you for saying it 😭

[cobalt yacht]

hi

can someone answer this and yes i just realised its gerard not gepard

[novel ermine]

Wasn't he the main one trying to take Talon down? At first they just wanted him out of the picture so he's not a problem but he kept being able to avoid their assassinations.

[cobalt yacht]

ohh ok

thanks

[icy drift]

y’all fw bap lore ?

[novel ermine]

Omg I love Bap so much, I hope he shows up a fair amount in the story missions

I like his demeanor in the As You Are short story, it was interesting to see him so nervous yknow? Especially with how confident he usually is. Even Winston has an interaction with Bap asking how he's so confident haha

[peak escarp]

Baptiste just wants to be accepted by the new team, and is nervous about blowing it

[novel ermine]

Yeah! I think that's so cuuuute, never would've imagined him to get like that. I relate to him in that sense.

[past copper]

I mean. He was in Talon once

I'd be nervous too if I joined the good guys

And betrayed the bad guys

One side has a hard time building trust towards you

The other side wants to kill you

Tough spot to be in fr

[cobalt yacht]

huh

someone explain baps lore

pls

[novel ermine]

Yeah trueee, that's fair lol

[past copper]

Baptiste watched the Omnic Crisis unfold as a child

When he got older he joined Talon to get by

Til he saw the terrible things they did to innocent people

And walked away from it, but one doesn't just leave Talon

So he has been on the run or hiding from Talon for some time helping people as he goes

That is until he finds Cassidy and asks to join Overwatch

That's pretty much the gist of things on Bap right now

Also, I think the only one who can really understand Bap right now is Cole

Bc he was once in a similar situation himself

I kind of hope the story expands on this since these two share the same kind of troubles

[novel ermine]

TRUEEE I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT

[past copper]

Personally I think the comic missed out on the opportunity for Cole to see himself in Baptiste

[novel ermine]

Cassidy seems to be aware of the influence(?? Idk if that's the word I'm looking for) he has on Bap because of that one interaction where he wanted to leave but stayed because "I figured you'd miss me too much."

To me, that hints that they have gotten close to some extent. Close as in, understand each other.

[novel ermine]

Ohhhh that would've been nice tbh 😭

[past copper]

Well, Cole would probably be the only one Bap can go to in case the team doesn't trust him

After all, there will probably be some tension on the team

Such as a former Talon op being with them and a Bastion

[light kayak]

yeah

[novel ermine]

Now Pharah too, no?

[past copper]

Well, Pharah may be a less understanding friend

She could try to comfort him, buy if you don't understand each other it doesn't always help

[novel ermine]

Ahhh fair, yeah I get that

In a way, she can help him feel more accepted

Like the way she accepts Cassidy's past, y'know?

[past copper]

Plus. There probably going to be other tension to expand on

[novel ermine]

Ohhh yeah, I just remembered that one clip of Reinhardt almost smashing Bastion 😭

[past copper]

Like the fact a majority of the team have never seen war before

Mei, Brig, Bastion for example

[novel ermine]

They're probably gonna feel uncomfortable huh?

[past copper]

I mean. Wouldn't be realistic if that PTSD didn't kick in

[novel ermine]

Trueee. Tho the way Bastion looked around nervously not knowing what to do kinda hurt my heart. I'm sure seeing Rein in distress won't be very nice either.

[past copper]

Well, it's going to be tensions for the team altogether

A global war, a terrorist group advancing, and working with questionable or inexperienced teammates

Ahhh. Yes. I'll bet that's what Overwatch was like when it was first formed

[novel ermine]

Yes! I'm like, oddly excited to see how the team handles their struggles.

I'm one of those that get like wayyy too into it even though it's likely going to be okay in the end lol

[past copper]

That is unless the rumor about a hero dying in the story is true

Fingers crossed Ram lol

[novel ermine]

I'm scared I'm gonna cry, no matter who it is 😭

These characters mean too much to me dammit

[north walrus]

so like

who is mercy talking about in that one interaction

or just match voice line

[limpid agate]

Not Pharah

[cobalt yacht]

Wait can someone please explain the difference with blackwatch and talon because im confused aboht that and why did moira be in blackwatch and switch to talon

[north walrus]

i know shes still in there

[novel ermine]

OH

[north walrus]

that one

[novel ermine]

That's Widow I believe!

[north walrus]

oh fr

cause when theres a mercy on my team i always wonder who mercy is referring with she

[novel ermine]

Blackwatch was part of Overwatch, still under law y'know? Talon is a terrorist organization. Moira was basically kicked because of her extreme experiments and I believe she was offered to work at Talon to continue her experiments. Does that makes sense? :0

[novel ermine]

Ah fair, I'm pretty sure that line only plays when there's a widow on the team.

[cobalt yacht]

Ohh ok thx

[merry token]

It’s because Mercy sort of used to know Widowmaker as Amelie Lacroix before she became Widowmaker

[stuck stump]

what did we find out today

[peak escarp]

what do you mean?

[stuck stump]

did we find out any new lore?

[peak escarp]

no

[past copper]

If you mean the announcement no

It was just saying JQ, Hanzo, and Widow getting nerfed while Lifeweaver gets buffs

[fossil chasm]

Hanzo and Widow nerfs, unfathomably rare Blizzard W

[rare trail]

uh this is a channel for lore?

[tight ermine]

i think I've got some evidence to prove zenyatta was built by lifeweaver

[rare trail]

wouldn’t lifeweaver been too young

[tight ermine]

lifeweaver or his fether

father

[rare trail]

and wouldn’t zen have been built by omnica

[tight ermine]

zen uses a product very similiar to biolight to heal and weaken teamates and opponents

[rare trail]

wdym?

how are zens healing balls related to bio light?

[tight ermine]

not exactly biolight

but an energy similiar to biolight

like a primitive version

i cant show pics here

look at your private messages

[quiet rune]

That makes no sense?

[keen summit]

its likely to be nanobots

as rama has a similair orb and has nanobots swarm around it

[rapid cedar]

the old man cant just make a balls out of thin air

[novel ermine]

Not sure if we'll ever get a proper answer since Zen himself doesn't even seem to know what his orbs are. Unless he's just.. playing dumb lol.

[quiet rune]

He does like to do that

[novel ermine]

I love the way he trolls lol

[upbeat violet]

it’s probably related to the iris in some way

[keen summit]

its not confirmed but most logical since rama would be nanobots, just legit the opposite of rama bots as well discord is also purple. so its likely mondatta was all about the yellow orbs and peacefull, healing. rama uses the purple version which is agression, discourse, violence. and zen is balanced of both

zen is violence when necessary, peace when optional

i like that aspect of that trio

its like rama and mondatta are yin and yang while zen is the balance of both.

[novel ermine]

Trueee that's how I saw it as well. That's like the whole reason Ram and Mondatta just couldn't compromise.

[broken patio]

malcomx vs mlk

[upbeat violet]

off topic

[peak escarp]

they're discussing the difference between Ramattra and Zenyatta, using a comparison to real world civil rights leaders

it's not off topic

[safe oriole]

Blud think he the lore cop

[sonic vale]

How heavy are omnics

[peak escarp]

as heavy as machines

depends on their size

Orisa probably weighs as much as a car

[opaque tundra]

does b.o.b. have a confirmed weight?

[peak escarp]

Bob weighs 2 tons

[opaque tundra]

ok i knew he had one but i forgot it

[novel ermine]

Ok unrelated but I need to know, any theories on why Genji and Mercy interactions are just.. non-existent? I miss their old interactions tbh 😢

[peak escarp]

because most of the OW1 interactions were removed and they haven't added any new ones for them yet

[novel ermine]

Oh yeah I know that, I meant like, why haven't they gotten new ones yet 😔

At least there's the rez line and the damage boost one I guess 😔

[peak escarp]

wait for the story missions

[novel ermine]

Fairrr I'm too excited for them, gotta somehow distract myself

[peak escarp]

season 5 should be fun

I'm hyped for Questwatch

[vocal marsh]

I feel like they do a lot of reformation during the odd numbered seasons

For example coins/prices in S3, PvE redistribution in S5 etc

[lavish vessel]

Do u think tracer will be the main character in questwatch?? Like how sigma was the big villain in Starwatch??

[merry token]

She’s definitely getting the mythic

[lavish vessel]

Yeah ik that’s why I’m thinking she’ll hopefully be the main character. We’ll see soon enough I guess

[peak escarp]

probably

[worthy rose]

bruh looks like brig

[opal bay]

strongest character?

[rare trail]

in lore?

[opal bay]

yes

[rare trail]

sigma sym winston and orisa are the top four

[worthy rose]

doomfist i thought

[rare trail]

nah

doomfist has been beaten by orisa and winston before

[opal bay]

oh i guess it was doomfist

[rare trail]

doomfist is 5th or 6th

[opal bay]

genji?

like 20?

[rare trail]

genji is pretty high up

[opal bay]

oh

[rare trail]

but he got his ass handed to him by doom

[opal bay]

oh k

[rare trail]

not ordered within tiers

[merry token]

I always felt like something was missing from brig’s hairline in her ow2 sprite and I finally realized what it was 💀

Wait why does that tier list version not have her long strands😭

[rare trail]

ow2 2d sprite doesnt have those iirc

[leaden reef]

They updated it

[hollow tinsel]

But doesn't her in game skin have strands tho?

[split fog]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-what-i-am-lgbt-trans-non-binary-non-binary-flag-gif-25474543

[fallen juniper]

rein gotta be top of A behind doomfist

[rare trail]

its not ordered within tiers

[fallen juniper]

im blind

[sonic vale]

Does rammatra have connections with any of the overwatch hero’s other than genji and zen?

[peak escarp]

he's working with Doomfist to start a war against humanity

[silent parrot]

Winton

[sturdy ice]

WHAT? 😭

[peak escarp]

wow that's racist

no

Winston is a genetically enhanced gorilla

[wind portal]

the closest we have to Bucky is Soldier 76

[peak escarp]

not Widowmaker?

[wind portal]

just going off heroes who are essentially super soldiers

both captain america and bucky are super soldiers so the closest thing I thought was Soldier

and reaper by mentioning soldier

[peak escarp]

no

Winston isn't human

[sonic vale]

pan

Not too sure, I haven’t don’t a lot of research

[silk ridge]

Blud is tryna be lowkey racist somehow

[sonic vale]

no comment

[peak escarp]

nothing lowkey about it

[silk ridge]

Definitely atleast a "im not racist BUT" vibe

[sonic vale]

Even after the question was answered you asked if winston and Doomfist were brothers

[peak escarp]

!!shitposting @potent bloom

[twilit nacelle]

@potent bloom Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[peak escarp]

she is female

[silk ridge]

Uh huh

This guy

💀

[peak escarp]

cis female, as far as we know

because Moira experimented on him, made him able to turn into smoke

[novel ermine]

He's Hispanic

[peak escarp]

the lighting is a bit dark here, but yes he is hispanic

his last name is Reyes

[novel ermine]

Well Hispanics can be dark lol

[peak escarp]

here's what he looks like in game

what did I tell you about shitposting

we know they're brothers

well maybe you should

[sonic vale]

Do you even play overwatch

This channel is mainly for questions about the lore that can’t be answered by a single google search

I think anyways

[austere agate]

least obvious troll

[ivory garnet]

because the google answer will pull up the wiki which isnt credible

[rare trail]

?

[limpid agate]

The wiki is typically edited by the same people who are in this channel

[rare trail]

aren’t there two wikis and one is mostly accurate?

[limpid agate]

The old one is obsolete

It was abandonned by those who used it, and was renamed to an archive

[stuck stump]

who?

[novel ermine]

They were talking about Moira. Someone was asking whether or not Moira is a man.

[upbeat violet]

they got banned?

[peak escarp]

yes

all the heroes are cis as far as we know

[hollow tinsel]

What does cis mean?

[peak escarp]

it means they present as the same gender they were assigned at birth

it's the opposite of trans

[silk frost]

there’s no sign of moira in the uprisings comic

do we know what she was up to at that moment

was she with in London with mccree

[peak escarp]

Moira wasn't added to the game yet, so it makes sense she wouldn't appear in the comic

[upbeat violet]

it’s not likely that she’s associated with overwatch anymore

[peak escarp]

she might not have even been recruited by Reyes yet

[silk frost]

oh

i didn’t know that

thanks

[upbeat violet]

oh sorry I misunderstood

[silk frost]

cause Gabriel did say there aren’t any other ‘assets’ of his for Morrison to worry about

[peak escarp]

wait

[silk frost]

i was wondering if Moira was another one of those assets along with mccree

[peak escarp]

yes, Morrison is alluding to Moira

Uprising happens after Retribution

Moira has already been discovered and kicked out

I forgot the timeline for a second

[strong oriole]

how strong is lifeweaver lore wise?

[peak escarp]

Morrison doesn't trust Reyes anymore after the Venice incident

[upbeat violet]

he doesn’t have any feats yet that’d give you an estimate of how strong he is

only thing we know is what was in his origin story

and that there is going to be a sym short story where he possibly might appear iirc

[peak escarp]

if it's just biolight, I'd put him on par with Mercy

if he can also do hardlight like Symmetra, his hypothetical power level is much higher

[strong oriole]

what is the highest tier the ow verse can reach with sigma?

[upbeat violet]

we’ve yet to see the extent of his power

i dont think I’m the best person to answer that question

[spice reef]

Hello. Who is the Iris?

[worthy rose]

Hello im in the iris how do i get out

[spice reef]

Hmm

[hollow tinsel]

I think it's a god that gives zenyatta his floating orbs and his floating body. The shambali monastery is where it usually is. I would ask doctor six tho Im not the best with lore

[rare trail]

its not really a who

the iris is a state of being

like nirvana

[manic burrow]

cock\

[rare trail]

aurora trancended to the iris and sacrificed herself to give all the omnics sentience

[spice reef]

Was Aurora leng?

[rare trail]

leng?

aurora was an omnic made by liao

[spice reef]

Damn

These god damn omnics

[zenith mango]

Don’t be racist

Hardlight and bio light difference?

[peak escarp]

bio light heals

hardlight doesn't

[worthy rose]

When she on yo dick and she a baddie:

[hollow tinsel]

@peak escarp off topic and we'll Uhm 💀

[upper ether]

https://tenor.com/view/sackboy-ok-low-quality-gif-15838920339012314281

[past copper]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[rare trail]

?

[quiet rune]

Is Kiriko canonically an Overwatch agent?

She has a voice line she says at the beginning of a match sometimes that goes: “look mom, I’m an Overwatch agent”

[peak escarp]

no

she hasn't joined Overwatch

[quiet rune]

Ah

[ivory garnet]

she says it mockingly as that voiceline only happens when its kiriko + 4 overwatch agents

[carmine remnant]

What did sojourn do to get kicked out of overwatch

And what are all the current overwatch and talon agents

[peak escarp]

Sojourn wasn't kicked out of Overwatch

she was the acting commander when Overwatch was shut down

[worthy rose]

reaper, doomfist, sombra, sombra, maximilien, moira, and mauga are the known ones i believe.

for talon

[peak escarp]

Overwatch: Winston, Tracer, Mei, Genji, Reinhardt, Brigitte, Mercy, Cassidy, Pharah, Zarya, Baptise and D.Va

Talon: Doomfist, Reaper, Moira, Sigma, Sombra and Widowmaker

[ivory garnet]

Reaper, Doomfist, Sombra, Sigma, Mauga, Moira, Widowmaker

[worthy rose]

i just realized i said sombra twice

[ivory garnet]

lol

[worthy rose]

also ig maximillien isnt an agent he just works with talon now that i think about it

[peak escarp]

he's on the council

[worthy rose]

oh i didnt know that

[peak escarp]

Sanjay, Doomfist, Maximilien, Reaper and Moira are the known Talon council members

Sanjay Korpal is Symmetra's boss/manager

[ivory garnet]

no

she isnt allied with anyone besides Vishkar

as she works for them

[peak escarp]

it's unknown whether Vishkar knows about Sanjay's extracurriculars

[autumn lodge]

Is the guy talking to Volskya in the Infiltration animation at 1:30 saying “they’re new kind of systems” or “the new guidance systems” ? I assume the latter XD

[peak escarp]

new guidance systems

[autumn lodge]

For years I thought it was the prior idk why

[keen summit]

they are kinda angry at her now cuz she testified against overwatch

[keen summit]

and small detail, there are more than likely more, these are only confirmed ones.

[keen summit]

my personal theory is that he just like moira and doom truely believes in creating progress. i believe sanjay will probs actually believe in creating a better world but that he like doom believes all means are necessary

ofcourse unconfirmed, vishkar could just be working with talon cuz money, making people reliant etc. but i like to believe they just like doom actually believe theyre truely doing the right thing to the world

cuz already moira and doom both dont believe what theyre doing is wrong really. doom believes humanity will evolve and tbf in the past war created most progress in tech. Moira believes that progress in science should not be hindered, no matter what.

[craggy flame]

who's most lore likely to sacrifice themselves to protect an omnic besides Bastion

the reason why this is important is because of a bet

[keen summit]

orisa

or rama

zen would try to find a way to not have to sacrifice anything

rama is iffy

he would, but well.. it would never happen

hes too tactical for that, so instead he would just find a way to protect them aslong as they agree with him, if not they dont deserve to have a choice

so orisa i'd say is most likely

orisa protects anyone

[wind wind]

bap is in overwatch?

[keen summit]

yep

since new blood

[keen summit]

mauga is kinda unknown but 99.9 percent certain yeah

we dont know if after the accident he stayed with talon or not

[wind wind]

cant wait for a new talon agent to be added

[ivory garnet]

he most likely did stay with talon to get payback

against Baptiste

[keen summit]

yeah

mauga is very likely for s8

as next support is from peru, and the roadmap goes left to right, to the right of the peru poster on antartica is... a samoa poster, and mauga is most likely from samoa

[wind wind]

when and if hes added hes most likely to be a tank huh

[keen summit]

Yeah

S8 is confirmed tank

He was going to be added already

[keen summit]

Or do u mean non omnics, cuz then its tracer or orisa

We saw tracer try to do so

[austere agate]

isn’t orisa an omnic

[twilit patrol]

Orisa is an omnic

No ?

[keen summit]

Yea

But like i meant in everyone

[edgy escarp]

Omnics my beloveds. They’re so awesome!

I don’t rly know any lore on them. If anyone can share, it would be sweet :0

[keen summit]

well what do you want to know

like

any details in particulair?

[edgy escarp]

Oh ok thx

[silk frost]

when’s the starwatch comic continuation coming out?

[twilit patrol]

We don’t know

[ivory garnet]

was there ever a confirmation that was a thing? lol

[silk frost]

yeah i remember reading that they’ll continue it based on which side had more victories in-game

[fresh rock]

Most likely. I like her first design the best because of how it LOOKS and FEELS like Tracer.

[light socket]

Duh

[limpid agate]

It doesn't look like it here from that teaser

Sigma was the Darth Vader, he was the big bad

But here it looks like Rein is the main villain

Tracer looks like a generic party member like Ashe or Lucio

[lavish vessel]

I feel like she could play the role doomfist played, but I hope she’s playabale rather than an npc, but ur definitely right about rein

[carmine remnant]

So is the new owl season like an adventure story, where it's like a party of 3-5 exploring the lands of questwatch to find the red demon that's been terrorizing the kingdom for ages

[lavish vessel]

I’d hope so, that would be sick

[vale veldt]

does anyone know where i can find more lore behind widowmaker besides the youtube video "Alive" which got me hooked but i want to know more about widow and talon in general. if someone could help thatd be great 🙂

the video didnt reveal much besides her emotionless figure

[peak escarp]

there isn't much else about her, besides her bio

[vale veldt]

oh that sucks 😦

[ivory garnet]

if its a gamemode, it’ll be 4 player, like every other event mode

[robust rock]

She appears in the "Infiltration" cinematic and Overwatch trailer. But you probably already know that.

She has a small cameo in Reaper's light novel "CODE OF VIOLENCE.
She's a minor character in the comic "MASQUERADE".
They show her fight against Ana Amari in the comic "LEGACY"

As the friend over there said, the bio is her only source of lore, unfortunately.

But if you liked Alive, there's a mini-saga of comics that continue the story "LONDON CALLING" , but it's focused 100% on Tracer.

[hollow tinsel]

Yo where can I see the new starwatch comic

[peak escarp]

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/media/stories/starwatch-epilogue/

[vale veldt]

oml thank you so much,im a widow main not only cause of the sniping abilities but her lore is fascinating and mysterious thanks so much dude

[ivory garnet]

i dont see it as mysterious as alot of it is straight forward

[stuck stump]

do we ever see tracer before the accident?

[sick phoenix]

are any OW heros inspired by any anime characters

[robust rock]

You're welcome.

[past copper]

I mean. Kiriko gives me Naruto vibes

Can't speak for the rest tho. At least not anime influenced

[bronze pollen]

why is there a lore discussion channel? We didnt get any lore in the past 5 years.

[twilit patrol]

Huh ?

Every game has a lore

[ivory garnet]

we got alot of lore in the past 5 years out of the 7 the game has been out lol

[twilit patrol]

Hanzo didn't get any lore in the past

[ivory garnet]

doesnt mean we havent gotten any lore

[twilit patrol]

Yeah I know

[lavish vessel]

I think bap is actually talking about himself in the first line lol, I may be wrong tho

And yeah mercy is probably talking about genji, hopefully that part gets revealed soon enough

Yeah exactly

[stuck stump]

is bap good?

yeah

[lavish vessel]

Yup, but now he’s planning a date with lifeweaver from his latest interaction

[lavish vessel]

Yeah, if u haven’t already read the latest short story they published, it has a lot of bap information

[astral acorn]

Didn’t doom and road get active in the sheets or am I trippin

[hollow tinsel]

An dey say

[twilit patrol]

And dey say

[molten thicket]

bro why dont u talk in overwatch chat no more 😭

[hollow tinsel]

Idk

[peak escarp]

incorrect

[bronze pollen]

bro why did noone understand that this was a joke 😭

[peak escarp]

do you not see where it says "serious discussion" in the channel description?

[twilit patrol]

It's not a joke channel

[ruby glade]

why is ashes ult called B.O.B. and not Bob? does it stand for something?

[vocal marsh]

It stands for Big Omnic Butler

[hollow tinsel]

Really or like, are you joking

[vocal marsh]

I’m not joking

I’m pretty sure that’s what it stands for

[hollow tinsel]

😂😂😂

[spark phoenix]

does anyone know how to bypass the phone number verification?

[signal totem]

I dont think you cen :/

[honest spear]

Does anyone else start clapping every time Winston says "hi there!" In game??

[astral acorn]

No

[ruby glade]

Thank you lol

[summer thunder]

Does anyone know exactly why life weaver is like banned or not allowed in multiple countries? Is it just because he left vishkar or another reason? (idk if it has been revealed why, I’m assuming it’s because he left Vishkar)

[peak escarp]

because he invented biolight using Vishkar's proprietary technology and he won't let them have it

so Vishkar used their influence to put a bounty on him

[summer thunder]

Thank you! I’ve been wondering and I wasn’t 100% sure why he had a bounty but I knew it was something to do with Vishkar ^<^

[austere lodge]

crazy how all the ow characters are straight

[shadow marsh]

It shows how twisted the company is. You leave Vishkar, they want you dead

[peak escarp]

incorrect

[summer thunder]

I like to believe that all ow characters are unlabeled until confirmed by Blizzard ^<^

[worthy rose]

what

[worthy rose]

is the iris like god or something

[ivory garnet]

Iris is a state of Nirvana

[graceful hatch]

That’s not exactly true; they don’t want to kill him, they want the technology he developed.

[shadow marsh]

Partially true

He had a bounty, meaning It's up to the bounty hunters to kill or capture him.

[ivory garnet]

he has a bounty because he stole their technology to make Bio-Light

[wind wind]

is there any bounty hunters in lore with a background?

[golden oak]

I thought that was junker queen lmao

[astral acorn]

Hmm

Interesting

[worthy rose]

They also cutely enslaved parts of Brazil

[zenith mango]

Ok

[worthy rose]

[astral acorn]

P

[zenith mango]

e

[golden oak]

Is mercy’s suit called Valkyrie because Torb designed it?

[peak escarp]

Mercy designed it, Torb built it

[zenith mango]

Then why does torb ask for “Valkyrie’s air-foil ratio”

[astral acorn]

Because doomfist was flying to Hammonds crib

[peak escarp]

if Torbjorn designed it, he would know the air-foil ratio

[golden oak]

Yeah I forgot about that but it would made more sense for a Scandinavian to come up with a suit inspired by a Valkyrie

Didn’t know mercy was an engineer tho

[zenith mango]

But if he built it, he would know it too. He would have to read the designs so he would be able to figure it out himself

[peak escarp]

idk why he says that then

the writers probably weren't thinking

[viscid flame]

Isn't Mercy's suit in OW2 modified from how it was in Storm Rising and OW1? I guess the line could still work if the person who modified it wasn't him

But yea more or less a case of them just forgetting lol

💀

[honest spear]

New hero

||mercy with a skateboard||

[rare trail]

where is that from?

[lavish vessel]

New video they posted about s6 news

It has the story pve stuff in too

[stuck stump]

does it show much?

[peak escarp]

https://vxtwitter.com/PlayOverwatch/status/1667950452443607047?t=_MziJa-fZ_OzOdfCyiFQCw&s=19

[honest spear]

Xbox games livestream

[wind portal]

so they're basically saying what we already know outside of what we know has been scrapped

[peak escarp]

it's good to have it repeated for people who dont analyze every trailer and remember every detail

[wind portal]

true

[peak escarp]

right now most people think the story campaign was canceled period

[wind portal]

yeah, even though they just cancelled what was going to make the story campaign special and replayable

[peak escarp]

?

the talents weren't part of story missions

they were for the hero missions

[limpid agate]

The talents were part of story missions

They were introduced to us through Story Missions

[hasty walrus]

I just want sigma content in the trailers

[golden oak]

She’ll be Peruvian afaik

[opaque tundra]

Hello lore discussion. What do we think about that omnic’s cool fancy headpiece?

[rare trail]

which omnic?

[opaque tundra]

I’ll find the time stamp since I can’t send images

0:16 seconds

Winston and Sojourn are observing an omnic with a strange device on its head

[rare trail]

This?

[opaque tundra]

Yes

[restive flower]

why are cassidy's eyes blue or is that just the lighting

[opaque tundra]

The lighting

I saw someone on Twitter make connections between the design of the headpiece and the detonator null sector unit shown in Blizzconline 2021

Obviously it’s some sort of mind control device, as the omnic appears to be unresponsive

The big question is why? I thought Ramattra would be against mind control? He has some resentment towards Anubis and a major part of his backstory is his guilt from the Omnic Crisis

[rare trail]

could just be a drone

[opaque tundra]

Drone as in?

[rare trail]

non sentient robot

like the ones that fought in the kings row uprising

built in an omnium but non sentient

[opaque tundra]

Do you mean the drone is attaching itself to the omnic? That looks like a normal civilian guy to me

[rare trail]

ram could probably build drones that look like civilian omnics

[opaque tundra]

Why though?

[rare trail]

hide better ig

[opaque tundra]

Idk what you’re trying to say here I’m sorry. Like camouflage to get the omnics away from the invasion? But if they look like drones, wouldn’t they be attacked?

[rare trail]

could be bait or smth like guys to go help the omnic the it blows up or smth

we don’t really know what it is though

[grim niche]

Is it just me or does the new support look like a girl

[hollow tinsel]

I think they are

[opaque tundra]

What I was trying to get at was my baseless theory on how Talon connects to the plot and I think this small detail could be the key. I really wanna get my thoughts out there so I’m gonna ramble for a bit because my writer brain loves this stuff

[grim niche]

Good

[opaque tundra]

I think the mystery omnic snatching was Ramattra’s idea, but it’s Talon that will mess things up and actually make things dangerous. It’s clear to me that Talon will inevitably betray Null Sector

[peak escarp]

“It means that I will build the army Lanet wanted,” I said. “And then we will find a way to save our people, whether they want it or not. Whether they deserve it or not. If they will not willingly join us, we will find a way to make them.”```

[merry mason]

At the end of his short story ram says something like if they’re not ready to rise up I’ll make them ready

Oh dr6 already found it

[peak escarp]

yep

[merry mason]

As expected

[peak escarp]

Ramattra is kidnapping omnics to turn into mindless soldiers for his war

[opaque tundra]

ah

[peak escarp]

which seems counterintuitive to his whole "omnics are a finite number" defense

but Ramattra isn't thinking logically

[opaque tundra]

This still works for my outlandish theory lol

[merry mason]

Yeah earlier in the story didn’t he say making all those drones was specifically so real omnics wouldn’t have to fight?

[opaque tundra]

I was under the impression Ramattra was gonna move the omnics out of the way to safety

Which would’ve been more in line for his character

But yeah this does work for what I was about to ramble about

Baseless lunatic theory: Talon will use the mind controlled omnics against Ramattra and make things worse

Exhibit A: Talon’s motivations/Doomfist’s character

[fallen juniper]

u guys think we're getting a good or bad ending

[nova field]

I want a bad one ngl

[fallen juniper]

i want the ending to be good but someone should die

[rare trail]

I don’t think they’re brave enough to do a bad ending tbh

[vocal marsh]

I doubt they’d make a playable character die

[opaque tundra]

Never mind I’m rambling somewhere else

[fallen juniper]

i wonder why they haven't shown anything of ramattra in pve yet

[rare trail]

if someone does it would probably be someone like Emily or idk Maximilian

[vocal marsh]

If anyone maybe like Maximilien or Sanjay

Or even like Mauga

[rare trail]

I doubt mauga would die because it seems like they’ve wanted to make him a hero for a while

[fallen juniper]

more than half the things we've seen of pve so far have just been rio de janeiro or however u spell it

literally just the mission we've already seen fully

the ending would be kinda underwhelming if there wasn't a meaningful death

[peak escarp]

good ending

Overwatch is an optimistic world

[peak escarp]

the ending of the Rio mission shown in 2019 was a placeholder, not the real ending

[weary slate]

Lifeweaver is a male

[peak escarp]

not Lifeweaver

[hollow tinsel]

No I wasn't talking about him, the new hero at the end of the season 6 trailer

[weary slate]

ohhh

i didnt see them let me go see

[peak escarp]

seems to be a female human, hinted to be from Peru

her design has some Inca influences

[weary slate]

she looks sick

[peak escarp]

she seems to have a solar theme

she will be a support

[weary slate]

reminds me of junker queens zeus skin in a sense idk why

hopefully she gets either good healing or good damage

[twilit patrol]

Really ?

I have doubts

I don’t think it’s optimistic

[karmic turret]

She looks so cool

man im excited for august

that trailer got me hyped

[mellow stratus]

It's optimistic believe me

[twilit patrol]

I have no expectations

[karmic turret]

Man I'm just excited to see the heroes interacting in cinematics

Sojourn Cinematic soon !!!

[naive zealot]

cinematics are dope

[weary slate]

lifeweaver is pretty cutesy from a certain perspective

[rare trail]

wdym kiri cinematic was more recent than that

[vocal marsh]

Will the S5 map be the India map?

Wait nvm

[twilit patrol]

No