#lore-discussion
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yeah
the lore of pve will still be cool
canon gameplay for the first time since the archives missions will be nice
and if Wrath of the Bride is an indication of the creativity on the mission design team, we're in for a treat
i hope they add some info that wouldn’t necessarily be included in novels or comics
the bit with the marionette was so cool
like height
birthdays
that’d be great
we only kinda know the birthdays of two heroes, and that's just from context in the timeline
ages would be nice too bc that could confirm how long the timeskip is
Orisa was built about 3.5/4 months after Doomfist escaped prison, which was in January, which puts her build date some time in late march/early april
Canon handwriting was added 😭
when will rein and ana kiss?
Ashe's parents threaten to disown her when she turns 18 "in three months"... this is said right after her high school graduation, which is typically in late June, so her birthday would be in September
just knowing September would be very vague
im sure Ashe would be sad if I celebrated her birthday on the wrong day
Are you trying to celebrate her birthday irl
In the story mode just give it another 4 years
didnt the roadmap say s7?
are you sure they wont cancel that like pve
s6
oh nice
91 days
They will probably keep hyping up the kiss and just randomly drop it
hopefully
im still excited the reason i wanted pve wasnt specifically for skill trees or anything
canon gameplay is cool
it’d have been ideal if they released the codex and story mode together
Canon gameplay is cool and all but I feel like it has to be really special to make up for the lack of skill trees now
it’s like playing a comic book (kinda)
yea
do you think quick time events would’ve made the story more engaging
or do you think just cutscenes like we’ve had so far is a better way to approach it
qte could be cool
there is a general game design rule of if something cool is happening a player should do it and qte isnt very interactive
QTEs might be hard to do in a multiplayer mode
yea
oh yeah
i didn’t take that into account
hopefully they’ll do something cool for story missions but as it stands right now I’m still excited if it’s gonna be anything like archives
What lore bro😭
For the upcoming lore maybe in season 6
I do hope it's not just the same mindless events as the story mission we've had before
i think archives are still pretty big
the mission that caused overwatch to go down and the mission that caused doom to get caught
uprising is pretty big too
Tracer's first mission, and Null Sector's first major attack
the three Achives missions were key moments in Overwatch's history that set up context for the present-day story
Uprising: Tracer's first mission, and Null Sector's first major attack
Retribution: the beginning of Reyes's transformation into Reaper and the mission that started Overwatch's downfall
Storm Rising: the mission that led to Doomfist's capture (and establishes Sojourn, Ramattra and Maximilien as characters)
Those are all cool, but the gameplay in it becomes so bland and stale. I'm not saying the lore is mindless.
I'm hoping that the key elements in the actual gameplay provide a decent and enjoyable re-playability
i don’t think they’re going to be too replayable
but we’ve yet to see
hopefully they’ll have something that’ll make everyone have hope in the direction this game is taking
That's honestly why I'm disappointed abt the skill trees because it honestly did seem like such a good idea that they could have implemented In thisb
I for sure would have been down to try out most of the characters specific skills and new ability
Give the workshop the tools to create our own PvE experience easy-peasy. Just do it ourselves 
Well... the tools to create something a little more advanced I should say then
I feel like the community would absolutely make some banger games like that if given the option
If we had those tools, I'd easily make a mode where you just fight enemies endlessly. Those modes are really good for me to kill time lol
reminds me of Ana headshot only lobbies
Lmao yeah
Except instead of enemies being unkillable, they just appear from around a corner 5 seconds later
Will Ramattra be the final boss of OW2 PvE campaign?
maybe
To be honest, I don't think so.
it doesnt seem likely
probably
i think ram makes sense
maybe he'll be in some boss form and less like the playable form though
i think someone like doomfist could make more sense
hopefully there'll be no final boss though
i wouldnt want the campaign to end
I think the same
Overwatch vs Talon = the end game
For me
source?
Source: Trust me


no final campaign boss
it would be cool to get a cutscene where the heroes are fighting his and he gets his ult
yeah that would be cool
like in the ow1 cinematic trailer when reaper gets his ult it would be sick
i think ram might break into top 5 strongest with pve coming out
they'll have to make him a strong guy bc hes the main villain so he might beat out doomfist and reaper
i dont think so
in the storm mission the post credits show doomfist and ramattra making a deal to cooperate
no i mean ramattra probably wouldnt fight doom and reaper
i just mean like in the greater idea of whos strongest
i wasnt saying they would fight
he might be stronger than orisa and winston
then he made himself into a raid boss of raid bosses with his own advancements
i would expect him to be stronger than orisa and winston and then they have to work together to beat him
they probably wouldnt even reach him until the very end of the PvE
since they would need to destroy idk if he made new omniums to be able to stop his army
he would maybe make some appearances
showing off his abilities
like when he shows his shield alot of the omnic will have their own shields
Do we officially know when pve is coming out
season 6
season 6
we dont know the date
like gameplay length or like until its released
Gameplay length
1 hour per 2 seasons id say but we arent sure
Bro that’s so short
we dont know how long its gonna be
It's just an estimate
How long do u estimate it would’ve been if they didn’t take out the stuff
Well I would assume we'd get a sizeable portion of content in the first release.. but I just can't make an estimate
I'm very bad at making these kinds of assumptions
Season 6 starts August 15
that's when PvE starts
we dont have any information on how long the missions will be or how many we get
Lmaooooooooooooo
I found proof of how sigmas powers are linked to his sanity
In his trailer if u reverse it he says melodys a harness
?
They are still going forward with some PVE after getting the mode entirely
Cassidy is stronger then Ana
Here is my theory
Sigma comes in it
And lebron as well
🏀
come on man

Am I tripping or is that the amputee dog in the advertisement in the new queens street spawn room
Ah
Lore or smth idk
I noticed that tracer was given the highlight intro synthdrift
Does that mean an event or something is coming
it's an epic
Oh so that's why
rip pve...
Idk if i should buy the battle pass or this
Battlepass more value unless you cant complete it fully
I have a question
Can reaper die?
Like isnt he intangible or something
Ik the robot in the cinematic threw him to the wall or something
he can die
He isn't immortal, but he is very hard to kill
Not only because he is a super-soldier, but also because of his high regeneration rate due to his abilities
Immortality doesn’t exist in OW world
The closest thing would be the cryo process Mei underwent, but even that isn't eternal.
As evidenced by the rest of her team dying
Yasuo killed his bigger bro Yone. And then yone came back half and could leave his body
Waittttt.... Wrong server

i think its league lore
Yes I think too
Kiri is technically immortal tho
probably
NO.
but like any technology, they will break down or their battery will run out
the oldest omnics are like 30 right?
that we know of
Bob is the only omnic we have that existed before the crisis, so he would be 30+
Omnics are interesting, some parts of the universe build em up to be as strong and durable as a Terminator, with them able to survive massive damage so long as vital components like the CPU aren't destroyed. They can presumably even be put into different bodies, like how Bob was reduced to a head, Other stories show them being much more vulnerable to injuries and death, and the necessity of maintenance to prevent their bodies from falling apart over-time
But yea as long an Omnic in a good environment with the ability to maintain themselves, they could be immortal. Assuming Omnics don't develop problems in their body's software and hardware
Also Nameless
I dont know if any other major omnics were confirmed to be older or not
immortal implies unable to die, not just lives forever
there’s different types of immortal
??? Where did you get this
They’re probably referring to her suzu which just grants invulnerability for a tiny bit
Which
1 - May not canonically exist
2 - If it does, the actual effect in game is making things phase through you temporarily, not making your immortal
do we have a document of what's canon in-game and what's not?
there was a list, but I dont think it has been kept up
i think all maps are canon
oh btw I wanted to ask smth abt the relationship chart you posted
this one
but like the characters there and what theyre doing arent necessarily canon
isn't pharah still a member of helix and not of overwatch? I thought she turned down the invitation
sigma pushing the payload fr
i thought she joined overwatch in new blood
she showed up in Korea with Cassidy and the others in issue 5
oh alr
I had been browsing the wiki for a while and there's a bunch of mentions of cass/tracer asking pharah if she wants to join and she says that she'll remain w/ helix
which is why I was confused
yeah wiki is off a lot of the time
Imagine if pharah just got shot instantly like in the game lmao
which wiki?
there's two, one isn't very reliable
fandom, does ow have a wiki.gg?
idk
oh, I see what you're talking about
Tracer and Reinhardt forwarded her the Recall message, but she turned them down
Hmm
Why was a pve channel added
So people could go and complain there instead of in every other channel
Lol
Dmc5 ow2 collab ever gonna happen?
i doubt it
not impossible but with this whole pve mess i doubt people wanna associate with blizz
dont see why series wouldnt want to associate with blizz because of their pve mishap lol
we already know we’re getting another collab
yeah there's already another collab announced
this isn't nearly as bad as people are making it out to be
5v5 isn't bad
Its bad
I mean the reaction to it

The queue was bad, the hero abilities didnt fit into it, looks at discord orb
And the balancing was awful
sounds a lot like ow1
They only care about money
they'd make money
wait a minute
youre telling me companies arent my friends?
The whole PvE is just getting blown outta proportion
I think the direction they're taking the story is fine
agreed
Frankly, I thought the talent trees were...
Honestly too much over all
And the hero hero missions, I'm willing to bet will be added in a later date
Regardless, I want the story missions more than the hero missions
Wait there's a new Collab?
Why did they switch it to 5v5 anyway
When does season 5 start? And is Questwatch just a theme or a new collab?
easier to balance
Season 5 starts second week of June - Questwatch is a D&D themed PvE mode
season 5's theme is "mischief & magic"
Gotcha. I appreciate the work you do here, Doctor

Does anyone else think lifeweaver has the worst lore in the game
I still don't understand it, it feels unnatural
how so?
it's basically Symmetra and Lucio's backstories combined
nothing unnatural about that
What was happening to Widow's skin? Why was it slowly changing?
what even is his lore
Her heart rate is slown down, causing her skin to be the color it is
Woah. Thanks again! That question has been killing me for a while now.
so no hero season 5
after they promised one every season
company is an L
they never promised one every season
they said every other season
we didn't have a hero in season 3 either
typical Overwatch fan not even knowing what was actually promised
funny
Born in Thailand as a middle child in a family of wealth. He was too smart for the schools he was going to, so his parents sent him to Vishkar academy(where he met Symmetra). He didn’t like the rigid atmosphere and was only really close with Symmetra. He traveled the world during breaks and he realized how much pain and suffering there was in the world and wanted to help it. He created biolight by using resources from Vishkar to help people in need. He eventually left the school as Vishkar did not agree with his want to share biolight with the world, claiming it was their technology he was using. His parents cut him off, and he went to Atlantic Arcology where he would continue to perfect his biolight technology.
It’s even actually better than they promised bc s6 and 7 are both giving heroes
Oh wait I read the roadmap wrong
that section was "season 7 and beyond"
we're supposed to get a map every odd season, but the season 5 section doesn't mention a map
it had that new gamemode flashpoint right? that will probably be the new map included with the gamemode
that's season 6
What even is Flashpoint? Did they even describe what it'll be?
It might be the gamemode they have in Starwatch? With the multiple points?
maybe
Also did they say it will launch with 2 maps or is that rumored?
they said that in an interview
Ahh okay, hopefully it is the starwatch game mode style so they can bring back some of the 2CP maps it'll surely be interesting
I dont think itll be 4CP
If it is
I hope its not random objectives like Starwatch
But that's past the point, we know it has 2 maps and one is India
The second might be Gothenburg
@paper gazelle smart 
Lowkey for a moment I thought I was gonna be in trouble hahaha
Just be sure to use this channel appropriately. Deleting your response to that convo was a good idea. 
Yes I'll stay away from shitposting from now on, thank you 🙂
Are yall talking about the breakpoint gamemode or whatever?
Why?
Because Season 7 is going to be a map season.
If it's even, it's a hero, if it's odd, it's a map.
If you're referring to mine, no. I was responding to some shitpost regarding Genji
nah, the stuff above that
Oh right my bad
is ok
Does anyone know what was actually left of genjis body after hanzo killed him, in the short his face looks torn
More so decayed
Parts of if not most of his legs were replaced with prosthetics, and also at least his lower right arm. He probably also suffered a severe spine injury
Wtf did he do to him
Did he torture him or kill him
I’m going to try using this channel more tbh
I'm not certain if his legs were actually severely injured, but a severe spine injury can cripple anyone, so it would make sense to give him prosthetic legs alongside fixing his spine in whatever way
Perhaps a lethal cut to his right arm and then a severe wound in the back
Plus other injuries in other areas, like his face
Hard to say, they've never depicted the scene in a story or comic, only alluded to it. Its possible it was just a normal sword fight that went very, very, badly
But most likely Hanzo probably used whatever Dragon attacks he could do with a sword, which would explain the extra damage
So how could hanzo withstand a dragon strike
He literally just fell to his knees and was weakened as to genji

Perhaps it was something Genji did as he was redirecting those Dragons into his direction
After-all we've seen that Genji's Dragonblade can slice through thick metal like its nothing
My guess is being hit by the dragons is less being scorched alive and moreso having a large force applied to you
Whereas what happened to Genji was he was cut up by Hanzo’s blade
Being hit by a spiritual force is one thing, being hit with solid steel blades is another
That’s also true
Yeah the doomfist battle in Singapore made him cut a car in half
With ease
See my pfp? That's what I did to Hammond after his stupid ahh knocked me off map😡
only confirmed thing is he injured Genji’s spine really bad
Gotcha
alot of his prosthetics couldve just been from surgery
Rage
to make it compatible with his exo-spine
That’s also true
Burn scars probably came after Blackwatch because they are not in the Blackwatch skin which came after the animated short
probably
Thank you
He has them now so :D
whats the likelyhood of one of the heroes dying in the story?
0
slim to none
Damn, Hanzo was really better with a sword.
even if they did, he wouldn't be removed from the game
ty
np
ppl say widowmaker is a "bad guy" but no one ever asks if Gérard LaCroix had bad vibes?
Gerard was working with Overwatch to take down Talon
"Story Missions tell a linear narrative about the heroes of Overwatch reuniting and battling the new Null Sector threat, pushing the story of Overwatch forward for the first time since our original game released. These missions take place on huge maps with new enemies and new cinematics. We will begin to release them in Season 6. The work done here is amazing, leaps and bounds above what we’ve built for PvE previously in our game, and I can't wait for our players to get their hands on them. We’ll be sharing more details there in the coming weeks."
so thats cool more stuff about the story
He didn't withstand it, it was clear he was injured by it
Gerard was innocent
Are kiriko genji and hanzo in the same age range? I'd say her mom trained the bros before she was born but I'm pretty sure there is a spray of all of them training
Or at least an image of it
Wait this is so helpful 😭
Hanzo is 38, Genji 35, Kiriko mids 20s
The Lore chat doesn't play around 😤
I found it on Tumblr 😛
But he didn’t die and was able to just get up 5 minutes to
yes, genji also didn't die presumably
we can likely assume that they have some greater regen then most normal humans
because of how they interact with humans
spirits*
the person commanding the dragon didn't want to kill hanzo
a 'normal' human would still die to that however
genji wasnt trying to murder hanzo there
we dont really know how a normal human would've stood up to it
also i dont think it was ever confirmed that genji was hit by a dragonstrike when hanzo nearly killed him
hanzo wasnt using a bow at the time
he might have used it with a sword if used at all
the dragon seemed to drain his energy briefly
Lf
0/2
1/2
Umm
This is #lore-discussion
Is Reaper racist
this is the second time i've seen someone ask that lol
Ahh ok ok thank you
So random too, like of all people we should be asking would be ashe, cass, or soilder, maybe doom
why would Doomfist be racist?
There's a video on the matter but since OW's story is more divided on Omnics and Humans. There might be a little bit of racism between average humans and genetically modified/changed ones. Ie Soilder 76 is kinda like Captain America.
Going purely off of personality atm.
as far as we know, genetically modified humans aren't that common
cyborgs are somewhat common, and do face discrimination, according to the Sojourn novel
It seems that way so its probably not as big as an issue as omnics. Little to none but I still like the idea of there being more in depth division inside of the human race.
Mmmm ok that makes sense.
the most racist playable characters are probably like the junkers
Zarya and Torbjorn also showed discrimination towards omnics, but Torbjorn met Bastion and realized maybe there was actually something to the whole "sentience" thing, and Zarya met Lynx Seventeen and realized that not all omnics are bad and she should direct her hatred at the ones currently attacking her country
so they've had some character progression
there hasn't been any racism shown to humans, and I don't think there will be
that's not the kind of story this is
because they're white Americans
GOTEEM
people don't deserve to be killed for having bad vibes
what if he was killed as reparations for the oppression of Angola
...what?
Angela? Is that who you meant?
wait so how come hanzo is grieving over genji being dead
then he learns genji is alive
and tries to kill him right away lol
what are the details of tracers condition?
because they're brothers
that's a very sibling thing to do
she blinks in and out of sync with the timeline, and only being near her chronal accelerator can anchor her to the timeline
she can also adjust its effect to use those blips to her advantage (blink/recall)
thaks, just out of curiosity, does it effect her ageing at all?
had a friend tell me she canonically 50 years old and i want to know if its true
thats an awful reasoning, but ig
yes, sort of
iirc, the order went Winston -> Genji -> Tracer
thats within the main overwatch we know
but in all, Genji was the last to join out of all them iirc
Anyone know where the two guys from the collective are from l?
one is Portuguese one is Venzuelan
Who is the uncle ruckus of overwatch?
who?
Who 
Uncle ruckus is a character from the show ‘The Boondocks’ which satirizes stereotypes and issues in the black-American community. Ruckus is black but is blind and is not aware he is black so he’s racist towards other black people.
So yeah, the person was joking when they were asking but in a serious context there are no characters that are not aware they are omnic/human and super racist towards people of their own kind 💀
Because people are looking for meme trash for when pride symbolism shows up in OW
That fact of the matter is tho, there is no Uncle Ruckus in a game that's focused on equality
Other than sigma, who would be the strongest character lore-wise
Winton
Hiiiiii -uwu ermmmm discord mod plzzz?
^^Ban this user^^
Probably Doomfist or Reinhardt in terms of raw strength. Not too sure about the others(other than sigma) when abilities are added to the equation
sigma hasnt been shown to be the strongest the top four are him sym winston and orisa
Winston is genetically stronger than both
Dead😭
Symettra? Why?
she has hardlight
shes basically green lantern but without the will power thing
her comic shows some of her powers
biolight is different than hardlight
What about ramattra? Hes an omnic, so he's already stronger than humans, plus, his nemesis form gives him another advantage over the others
nemesis isnt canon so
some of it is, some of it isn't
that doesnt make much sense
why would they put something in their game if it wasnt canon?
mercy's rezz isn't canon, but most of her interactions with genji are somewhat canon
because if there were to be PvP = PvE in terms of abilities
some heroes wouldnt be playable
and some would dominate
top 5 strongest are
Sigma (potentially)
Symmetra (potentially)
Winston
Orisa
Doom or Reaper
so that they have cool powers they can use in game
id say that’s pretty much it
Most of it is for gameplay mechanics, however with the upcoming Story missions in season 6, some hero abilities may eventually become canon. Rammattra is the current big bad in lore so it is a possibility his Nemesis form could be canon for the Boss Fight.
Anything that is shown in cutscenes.
I bet a good amount of abilities will become canon. With a good balance of canon and non-canon, the writers can have a lot of creative freedom with things they can do in cutscenes
How strong could Ramattra’s Nemesis form be if it was canon?
As strong as the plot demands
His orb staff or how the way his nanites works might be explained in the future considering he is an engineer as well.
So whats life weaver's lore??
here
He's a biologist i think who attended the same vishkar academy as sym. He rebeled against his family for how they treated the environment. He created bio light and went out to help the wildlife
I think i summed it up
Vishkar also wants his biolight because it was created on their property. So now LW is wanted in like 16 countries.
it was created using their tech
Can someone give me symmetra's lore?
!!loreheroes symmetra
To learn more, please visit https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/symmetra#story
no, kiriko exists
they never did
every OTHER season new hero
every even one
oh wow im pinned
So true
Could overwatch and talon beat alduin from skyrim?
i’d assume machinery like guns would work on stuff in Skyrim
dragons are pretty easy to take down if you outnumber them
or if you are ornstein
it's simple action economy
reinhardt killed a dragon
That's just a VL in game
Reinhardt imagined a biker gang was a dragon
IS widowmaker gay?
widowmaker was married to a man and has never shown interest in women
its not impossible for her to be bi or pan but theres nothing showing she is
^
Hmm she can't be gay
does widow regret killing her husband? i know she cant really feel emotions but it seems like she might deep down
i dont know about regret but she feels some grief for him
i wonder if she'll undergo a redemption arc of sorts
none of the villains or antags will turn to the light
with the exception of Sombra and Maximillien
as both are gray
Yeah, it’s canonical she visits gerard’s grave
Does anybody know about any fan art of the yokai gang? Or any official art other than the obvious ones
Sombra has at least a passable moral compass, Maximilien just wants money
Moira also isn’t horribly corrupt, she truly believes that she’s helping humanity
It’s just that her ways are questionable at best
Moira doesn't care about helping humanity
she just wants to advance science
the monologue in her origin trailer boils down to "imagine what science could do without any limits"
I’d say she just has a lack of empathy
To learn more, please visit https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/orisa#story
!!loreheroes ana
To learn more, please visit https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/ana#story
!!loreheroes mercy
To learn more, please visit https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/mercy#story
!!loreheroes morei
To learn more, please visit https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/morei#story
!!loreheroes Baptiste
does it matter?
Just curious if Something Like Widow Tracy could Work Out 🤔
it would never work, even if Widow was gay
and widow still mourns her dead husband on christmas
They Look cute in the Trailers ._.
Actually didnt know that
- tracer is also in a relationship
Doesnt say anything tbf
yeah, they hate eachother tho so no
widow killed an important member of overwatch, killed the most important omnic and then laughed in tracers face about it
the queer people are soldier, tracer, lifeweaver and very likely bap
Did not expect that one ngl
Soldier had a boyfriend before the omnic crisis, but they couldn't work it out
Soldier was married to the army
thats kinda the point, that he isnt a stereotypical thing
Is there like a big website or something where i can read heroes lore?
well first of all the overwatch site has small lore tidbits
also always the wiki has alot too
if you want to read it firsthand there are novels, comics and much more
ORISA IS 1 MONTH OLD?
she was in OW1
yeah, now probs bit older but we dont know how long the time skip is
probably a few years
yeah
Ball is 14 lol thats funny
i mean its a hamster
he's a toxic teenager
Damn souj is oldy too i honestly though she just had dyed hair
nope, she fought in the crisis
she looks young cuz shit ton of cybernetics
That's what i was thinking tbh
Wasn't genji like 60% cyber
more than that
yeah but idk if it also is the reason why she looks young
Damn
cuz logically it would make sense, less organic less well aging of what you do have
in the lore was genji robotified first or Sojourn
soj
soj was robotified at a young age
Let me cook rq
I think
Sigma will kill doomfist in the lore
But he will sacrifice himself as well by pulling him and doomfist into a black hole
Then reaper takes over talon after beating the shit out of everyone else to prove he's the strongest
extremely unlikely
This would be the reason why he have the highlight into "ambush" for reaper. He's getting scoped down by widowmaker
Nah
orisa is legit a device to fight doom, they wouldnt just make sigma do it
They most likely will
If sigma gains his full stability once again and realize what he has been doing is wrong and the team he's been on has been the wrong team for his science
He will challenge doom
sigma wouldnt rather kill him
he'd rather not fight
orisa will probs rematch. my theory is that itll be orisa vs doom while sombra tries to hack into her and overwatch is stopping sombra
why? orisa is legit one of the strongest in lore confirmed
and made to fight doom
I honestly don't think orisa would have it in her to actually win against doom
...
orisa beat him twice
But like
once in her prototype phase
She most likely won't kill him and end his terror
She mentally doesn't have it in her
well the thing is
the reason why he could get out was cuz moles
if overwatch is back they could actually hold him
Probably
But idfk I honestly just wanted to make a cool theory that most likely won't happen
I'm gonna cry in a corner if it doesn't happen
its fine
sigma is likely to get free tho
its just that he'll probs help overwatch, might even help orisa have a way of really stopping doom cuz well her problem is that she just outlasts doom and cant get pushed around, so if he gets away well hes gone. so say having a way of keeping him there like with gravity tech...
like she already had in a weaker form
likely
winston will devo have rematch
but probs will lose cuz well they implimented orisa
and lucio is connected to her
Prob
,
decided to say here but its highly likely next tank hero is mauga
there were two posters on antartica
One now tied to new support hero while the second one from samoa is where mauga is most likely from
mauga as a tank would be sick
I was talking bout it but now with one of the posters beibg gauranteed tied to new hero
They've both been out of the fight for years with Doom in prison and Winston in Gibraltar just chilling. They've both had a year to get back into it, I'd doubt either are rusty anymore
I wonder tho. What is Emily's full name. (traces girlfriend) we only got one name but never her full name. For some reason I was thinking she is torbs secret daughter.
😟
Why? Whatever gave you that thought?
Torb loves his wife
she's British, torb is swedish or smth iirc
Oh i see. I am still curious who she is though. What her full name is.
Emily emily
Maybe because she’s a lefty
maybe
we don't have any heroes confirmed as lefties, but there's a few I think probably are
It doesn’t make sense for me for Genji to be a lefty
He throws with his right
And his sword stance/the way he swings is rights
Righty
being left-handed is very discouraged in Japan
in kendo, you're trained to use your right, regardless of dominant hand
Oh
but in the image above, he's writing with his left
What about Kiriko then
She throws with her left
Wait no she doesn’t I’m stupid
Does she?
she does throw kunai with her left
but she throws ofuda with her right
she's basically dual wielding
She might be ambidextrous
Is it for efficiency purposes?
it's probably so they always have a way to create hardlight
they could've just flipped the image if they wanted to have it be seen well
this is what I see in the lore codex
we’d have the answer to simple questions like what’s their dominant hand
they could have drawn/animated them using their other hand and it would still be clear what they're doing
Or maybe because she's a righty, she is seen in certean circumstances to use her right hand over her left instead of her left robotic arm
The ofuda are probably seen as more important because of their culture? im just spitballin
its just dual wielding since its 2 single handheld items
like when Spec Ops use a pistol and knife combo
you then have 2 weapons right at your disposal
but in her case, she has a weapon and utility
but which one is more important
the Ofuda is in her right hand, and is the default trigger button (not that that means anything)
I'd say both are important
But based on the short
She uses the kunai more
Only using the ofuda on the old person iirc
I may be completely wrong and just rambling nonsense
did we ever find out what that purple glowing cube in the train hopper comic was? if not what’s the most likely explanation
she doesnt really care abt anyone
just kinda speaks her opinion, which is usually negative
doesnt really show care towards anyone but def shows annoyance
just kinda her personality
damn
I mean, there's a number of things it could be
But the currebt writers probably won't expand on it that
exactly
Just saying tho, it must've been pretty important if Talon was willing to attack a public train fir it
we'll probably never know what it was
it'll just show up in the background of a comic panel or something as an easter egg
Even more to the mystery of what it was
Is who put it on the train and why
If someone between the writers n devs remember it, could hint at a future hero
considering all the other dropped threads from the early comics and artworks, I doubt it
those pre-launch comics are becoming less reliable by the year
remember when Anubis was just "one of the god programs Overwatch quarantined after the crisis"?
Honestly, multiple God programs made more sense
there's still people who think Athena is a god program
Bc otherwise, what's operating the factories attacking Russia and Busan
I won't hold ya, I get trying to build a world sized story, but too many changes can make or break it
But whatever. Just as long I get to play the story missions, I'll accept whatever changes they make
they've been good at keeping the lore consistent
even if a few retcons were necessary
Itll probs now be said as rama and talon
Lf tank high masters
wait she isn't?
Impossible bc A) Russian factory still producing Gen 1 omnics and has been shut down/reactivated before
B) The factory attacking Busan has never been shut down since the 1st Crisis
Ram has no interest in using old units anymore and it's very unlikely Talon could even get near the factories
Besides. Pretty sure the story behind them is that Anubis is somehow still running the active factories
Despite being quarantined by Pharah and her team
And her rabbits
she's an AI prototype made by Dr. Liao
ohhh, i guess it's a little confusing since she has the name of a greek god
Overwatch = 🤡 🤡🤡

yeah, and?
this surely explains why you’re in an overwatch server as big as this one
Kratos is my grandma

Why does hanzo get 2 dragons but genji 1?
one dragon would make the hitbox look weird and be confusing
Lore wise B(
the reason lore wise is because its like that in game
and its like that in game for gameplay considerations
Yea but why
If I had to guess, it probably has to do with the folklore sorrounding genji and hanzo
Like what ties in to it
Hanzo was stronger than genji before genji got his cybernetics, so that might also be a reason
unfortunately i dont think theres any real lore reason. its only for the hitbox not to be weird as there were complains abt it in ow1. i doubt they will ever expand on it
Sad
But- but chonky dragon
i think theyre gonna concentrate more on the null sector side of the story
the story is about a null sector attack in japan
if im not wrong
As Null Sector drop pods rain down on Tokyo, Hanzo hears the ghost of his father—and meets with a familiar face—in an electrifying tale by E.C. Myers.
but rereading that i take back my statement
When is this coming out?
the collection is set to release later this year
Supposed to be sometime after next season. Tho, might be a novel that drops in October
Ok. Someone, either the writers or Amazon, is fucking up if they can't figure out a release date or something
Bc that's just ridiculous waiting to release it next year
Though, I bet something that don't help is more heroes addes to the game before more novels can be released
Gotta fit everyone into the OW world somehow
just wanted to saay lore warlord is cool
she is very cool
😊
Genji has 1 dragon Hanso has 2 explain
Hit box of dragon strike would look weird with one dragon
Make a very big dragon easy
They could’ve but devs probably thought the spiraling would look cooler
if I had to guess through a speculated reason, Hanzo was stronger than Genji before Genji got his cybernetics, which would explain why Hanzo had 2 dragons and Genji only had one
A theory I have is hanzo maybe got his fathers dragon when he died because hanzo is the eldest son
that too
But there’s no official explanation yet
I think Hanzo being stronger would make sense though since the tale went that the blue dragon killed the green dragon in the folk tale
So, while the hero missions are a bust, think we'll still get the all showcased Null Sector enemies in Story Missions
yes
Cool. Tho, I was mostly talking bout the bombers
Pretty sure it was a hero mission they were demoed in
We dont know what we are or arent getting when it comes to enemies.
True. Guess depends how many missions will involve escorts
We can probably predict all those in Rio would also be here
But the only 1000% confirmed thing is the stock Nulltrooper
Come to think of it. We might see the bombers on the Gothenburg mission
It seems to involve escort and activating anti air guns
the only one of those enemy units confirmed to be in story missions is the Puller
Hmm. Would the Titan count as unit
Probably not
Well, one drops down in a mission
Based on the map, it looks like the Gothenburg mission possibly as a final boss
how did mccree lose his arm?
We dont know
*cassidy
what’s your personal theory if you have one?
I used to think he had a run-in with the Deadlock gang and they took his arm as punishment for betraying the gang... but then we got Reunion and that idea didn't work anymore
I don't currently have a theory on it
it was actually the reunion cinematic that got me thinking in the first place
i wondered if ashe threatening him with bob ripping off his other arm implied that’s how he lost his left arm?
but that’s definitely me overthinking it
does he have his arm in deadlock rebels?
He has his other arm when he leaves Overwatch 6 years ago
So no, Bob didnt rip it off
Yes
i thought he didnt have his arm in blackwatch
He has it in his skin
I will always remember how the creator of Ashe’s deadlock skin literally got called slurs by someone using the skin they made 💀
new blood? reunion?
whar
are blackwatch evil?
not really
more grey
mostly good
but shady
i mean thye killed someone and got overwatch taken donw
Present day
So he lost it some time between leaving Overwatch and Overwatch 1
reunion
that weird jumping one in the right is most likely going to be in the story missions, it was shown briefly in the gamespot trailer for the PvE 11 months ago
We see him earlier than that
Train Hopper/Overwatch 1
Reunion takes place some time after Recall
Train Hopper was before Recall
Lets hope that none of these (+ the drone one and the 4 legged one) were scrapped along with the hero missions
Very unlikely. Otherwise they wouldn't have enemies for the story missions
Fun match up. Who would win? Junker Queen vs Ramattra
Junker Queen probably has an edge in dealing with omnics, but we don't know how strong Ram is yet
they are the doing bad thing for a good cause group
it depends really on how much power he has with nanobots, we know he can create complex things from it aka his staff and his arms, use it to pull people down aka vortex, use them for shields and use them to well constantly dmg aka ult
if he can pull a gilgamesh and create tons of weapons and just launch them, long as they arent magnetic, jq would probs lose, if they are magnetic, honestly rama would be in danger
isn’t nemesis form not canon or something
feel like that discussion was had here a few days back
we haven't seen him use it
I mean, that's the thing. I almost feel JQ can counter Ram's nanobots with her gauntlet
We've seen how effective it is in hardcore fights
Plus the way she defeated Howl was beyond impressive
I don't know how nanobots would fair against magnetism tho
the main issue comes down to JQ's weapons being mainly designed to fight omnics, or optimized to fighting omnics, as she's fought a lot of aggressive omnics in the past.
she also says she's fought (and I assume, beaten) Ravagers before
We dont know. We dont know if they would be affected or are from non metallic / magnetic stuff
We dont know what the skillset of regular ravagers are tho, so it could go boyh ways
Not confirmed nor denied, i think its likely that creating stuff with nanobots is canon and as the same effects in both sound and visual happen with staff and nemesis its likely that it works like that
We dont know how much he could do with it, kinda like sigma, we know that they can do something but not to what extent
But rama would probs have a clear limit cuz well nanobots aint infinite
Grey Goop

I think I've figured out how Zen's orbs and ult work. If Ranmattra can generate a limitless supply of nanobots from nowhere, what if Zen's orbs are just filled with healing or debuffing nanobots? It would also make his ult the antithesis of Ranmattras if it works like that, as it would still be a large nanobot swarm that just does the opposite of Ranmattra's ult.
Is sigma still continuing his research/experiments
yes
So people are just gonna gloss over this?
I believe it's under strict supervision
Do we know what sigma thinks he’s doing in talon
Research
He was just a prisoner but they needed him for his intellect, to use and abuse his powers however they choose
Sigma is like an SCP, requires constant heavy surveillance and numerous contingency plans for if he goes awry
And May God help you if you’re near when he goes into a frenzy
We don’t know the full scope of what Sigma can do if he enters a manic state do we?
we don't know if he ever has manic states
sigma braids his pubic hairs
?
!!shitposting
Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
lore channel asking the real questions, as always
well its not confirmed nor denied if it does with anything. it could be the explanation that they decided to go for now.
I asked a real question about genji few days ago, got warned and got called weird
it’s conveniently not showing up in search, what was the question
maybe don't ask ridiculous questions in a serious discussion channel then
who do you guys think is the person that ana and soldier meet
hideo kojima
a future hero
considering Symmetra's story likely features LW, and Hanzo's story likely features Kiriko
I would guess that any new characters introduced in these stories are planned heroes
Either Hamid Faisal or Emre Sarioglu
Since its gonna be in Turkey, I am leaning to the latter
But both have established ties to knowing Dr. Faisal in Bastet
And he doesnt have a fixed location he is tied to
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Seems Hanzo might also team up with Kiriko
To defend the city from Null Sector from the sounds of things
Hmm. I wonder if that means we won't get a story mission in Japan?
probably not
Kinda only think that bc of the release date pushed back to 2024
But hey, at least we see what Hanzo been up to after several years
Last time we ever saw him was Reflections
it's been 7 years since he's been featured in the lore
that does seem like a long time
then again he’s not really as popular compared to other characters like Genji or Reaper
I disagree. And I don't just say that bc he one of my mains
I think he's a very interesting character bc he's dealing with personal conflicts between family, enemies, and more
I mean no offense, but Genji mostly seems like a metal gear rip off
Not that it's a bad thing. Heck, I think people just like the idea of a cybernetic ninja
Grey Fox is who I'm thinking off
Would Hanzo actually help Overwatch?
probably not





