#lore-discussion

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upbeat violet
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overwatch people are rarely speaking about overwatch anyway

mint hazel
rare trail
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im glad pve discussion was created

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this place was being swarmed too much

peak escarp
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yeah

rare trail
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the lore of pve will still be cool

peak escarp
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I'm hyped for the Lore Codex

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whatever that is

rare trail
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canon gameplay for the first time since the archives missions will be nice

peak escarp
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and if Wrath of the Bride is an indication of the creativity on the mission design team, we're in for a treat

upbeat violet
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i hope they add some info that wouldn’t necessarily be included in novels or comics

peak escarp
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the bit with the marionette was so cool

upbeat violet
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like height

peak escarp
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birthdays

upbeat violet
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that’d be great

peak escarp
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we only kinda know the birthdays of two heroes, and that's just from context in the timeline

rare trail
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ages would be nice too bc that could confirm how long the timeskip is

peak escarp
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Orisa was built about 3.5/4 months after Doomfist escaped prison, which was in January, which puts her build date some time in late march/early april

merry token
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Canon handwriting was added 😭

upbeat violet
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yeah

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we could also learn more about characters like Sam or Mirembe

torn loom
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when will rein and ana kiss?

rare trail
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i doubt it

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they havent seen each other in years iirc

peak escarp
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Ashe's parents threaten to disown her when she turns 18 "in three months"... this is said right after her high school graduation, which is typically in late June, so her birthday would be in September

upbeat violet
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just knowing September would be very vague

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im sure Ashe would be sad if I celebrated her birthday on the wrong day

merry token
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Are you trying to celebrate her birthday irl

worthy rose
rare trail
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didnt the roadmap say s7?

torn loom
upbeat violet
rare trail
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oh nice

peak escarp
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91 days

worthy rose
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They will probably keep hyping up the kiss and just randomly drop it

torn loom
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hopefully

rare trail
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im still excited the reason i wanted pve wasnt specifically for skill trees or anything

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canon gameplay is cool

upbeat violet
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it’d have been ideal if they released the codex and story mode together

worthy rose
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Canon gameplay is cool and all but I feel like it has to be really special to make up for the lack of skill trees now

upbeat violet
rare trail
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yea

upbeat violet
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do you think quick time events would’ve made the story more engaging

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or do you think just cutscenes like we’ve had so far is a better way to approach it

rare trail
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qte could be cool

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there is a general game design rule of if something cool is happening a player should do it and qte isnt very interactive

peak escarp
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QTEs might be hard to do in a multiplayer mode

rare trail
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yea

upbeat violet
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oh yeah

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i didn’t take that into account

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hopefully they’ll do something cool for story missions but as it stands right now I’m still excited if it’s gonna be anything like archives

foggy pulsar
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What lore bro😭

worthy rose
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For the upcoming lore maybe in season 6

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I do hope it's not just the same mindless events as the story mission we've had before

rare trail
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wdym

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the previous story missions had a lot of lore

peak escarp
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it will be continuous story missions

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not isolated events like Archives

rare trail
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i think archives are still pretty big

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the mission that caused overwatch to go down and the mission that caused doom to get caught

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uprising is pretty big too

peak escarp
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Tracer's first mission, and Null Sector's first major attack

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the three Achives missions were key moments in Overwatch's history that set up context for the present-day story

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Uprising: Tracer's first mission, and Null Sector's first major attack
Retribution: the beginning of Reyes's transformation into Reaper and the mission that started Overwatch's downfall
Storm Rising: the mission that led to Doomfist's capture (and establishes Sojourn, Ramattra and Maximilien as characters)

worthy rose
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Those are all cool, but the gameplay in it becomes so bland and stale. I'm not saying the lore is mindless.
I'm hoping that the key elements in the actual gameplay provide a decent and enjoyable re-playability

upbeat violet
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i don’t think they’re going to be too replayable

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but we’ve yet to see

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hopefully they’ll have something that’ll make everyone have hope in the direction this game is taking

worthy rose
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That's honestly why I'm disappointed abt the skill trees because it honestly did seem like such a good idea that they could have implemented In thisb

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I for sure would have been down to try out most of the characters specific skills and new ability

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Give the workshop the tools to create our own PvE experience easy-peasy. Just do it ourselves clueless

peak escarp
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we already do

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have fun

worthy rose
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Well... the tools to create something a little more advanced I should say then

peak escarp
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we just need spawners for the PvE enemies

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and maybe objective markers

worthy rose
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I feel like the community would absolutely make some banger games like that if given the option

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If we had those tools, I'd easily make a mode where you just fight enemies endlessly. Those modes are really good for me to kill time lol

peak escarp
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reminds me of Ana headshot only lobbies

worthy rose
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Lmao yeah

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Except instead of enemies being unkillable, they just appear from around a corner 5 seconds later

plucky bay
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I never paid for OW1

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so I just got a free game basically

grave ocean
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Will Ramattra be the final boss of OW2 PvE campaign?

twilit patrol
upbeat violet
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it doesnt seem likely

grave ocean
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I suppose the empty void of nothingness is the final boss of OW2 PvE campaign SombraThinking

rare trail
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i think ram makes sense

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maybe he'll be in some boss form and less like the playable form though

upbeat violet
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i think someone like doomfist could make more sense

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hopefully there'll be no final boss though

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i wouldnt want the campaign to end

twilit patrol
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Overwatch vs Talon = the end game

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For me

peak escarp
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Doomfist is like, final final boss

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Ramattra is just a story arc boss

grave ocean
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guys, there is no final campaign boss

peak escarp
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source?

twilit patrol
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Source: Trust me

peak escarp
twilit patrol
wintry talon
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rare trail
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yeah that would be cool

fleet thistle
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like in the ow1 cinematic trailer when reaper gets his ult it would be sick

rare trail
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i think ram might break into top 5 strongest with pve coming out

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they'll have to make him a strong guy bc hes the main villain so he might beat out doomfist and reaper

fleet thistle
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in the storm mission the post credits show doomfist and ramattra making a deal to cooperate

rare trail
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yeah?

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that doesnt mean hes weak

fleet thistle
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no i mean ramattra probably wouldnt fight doom and reaper

rare trail
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i just mean like in the greater idea of whos strongest

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i wasnt saying they would fight

fleet thistle
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oh in that case he probably would

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i mean he was build to be a literal raid boss

rare trail
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he might be stronger than orisa and winston

fleet thistle
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then he made himself into a raid boss of raid bosses with his own advancements

rare trail
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i would expect him to be stronger than orisa and winston and then they have to work together to beat him

fleet thistle
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they probably wouldnt even reach him until the very end of the PvE

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since they would need to destroy idk if he made new omniums to be able to stop his army

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he would maybe make some appearances

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showing off his abilities

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like when he shows his shield alot of the omnic will have their own shields

zenith mango
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Do we officially know when pve is coming out

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upbeat violet
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season 6

fleet thistle
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we dont know the date

zenith mango
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Also

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Do we know how longish it will be

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zenith mango
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Gameplay length

fleet thistle
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1 hour per 2 seasons id say but we arent sure

zenith mango
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Bro that’s so short

rare trail
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we dont know how long its gonna be

worthy rose
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It's just an estimate

zenith mango
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How long do u estimate it would’ve been if they didn’t take out the stuff

worthy rose
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Well I would assume we'd get a sizeable portion of content in the first release.. but I just can't make an estimate

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I'm very bad at making these kinds of assumptions

zenith mango
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Alr

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Thanks anyway

peak escarp
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Season 6 starts August 15

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that's when PvE starts

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we dont have any information on how long the missions will be or how many we get

chilly widget
young lily
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I found proof of how sigmas powers are linked to his sanity

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In his trailer if u reverse it he says melodys a harness

peak escarp
chilly widget
# peak escarp ?

They are still going forward with some PVE after getting the mode entirely

peak escarp
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yes

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story missions start in season 6

worthy rose
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Cassidy is stronger then Ana

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Here is my theory

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Sigma comes in it

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And lebron as well

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🏀

upbeat violet
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come on man

royal magnet
merry token
# peak escarp

Am I tripping or is that the amputee dog in the advertisement in the new queens street spawn room

peak escarp
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different dog

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same prosthetics

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Murphy has cybernetic back legs

merry token
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Ah

granite pumice
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Lore or smth idk

zenith mango
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I noticed that tracer was given the highlight intro synthdrift

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Does that mean an event or something is coming

peak escarp
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no?

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it's a store item

zenith mango
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It just seems

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Not like a normal highlight intro

idle finch
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Its apart of this

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Will be in the store sometime

shadow marsh
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Surprisingly cheap

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Unless it's a bundle

peak escarp
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it's an epic

shadow marsh
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Oh so that's why

worthy rose
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rip pve...

rare trail
echo monolith
quiet rune
lusty hawk
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I have a question

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Can reaper die?

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Like isnt he intangible or something

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Ik the robot in the cinematic threw him to the wall or something

rare trail
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he can die

worthy rose
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He isn't immortal, but he is very hard to kill

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Not only because he is a super-soldier, but also because of his high regeneration rate due to his abilities

twilit patrol
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Immortality doesn’t exist in OW world

gray kayak
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The closest thing would be the cryo process Mei underwent, but even that isn't eternal.

limpid agate
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As evidenced by the rest of her team dying

worthy rose
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Yasuo killed his bigger bro Yone. And then yone came back half and could leave his body
Waittttt.... Wrong server

rare trail
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i think its league lore

twilit patrol
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Yes I think too

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peak escarp
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no she isn't

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nobody in Overwatch is immortal

upbeat violet
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what about omnics

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do they have a longer lifespan?

peak escarp
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probably

twilit patrol
peak escarp
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but like any technology, they will break down or their battery will run out

rare trail
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the oldest omnics are like 30 right?

peak escarp
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that we know of

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Bob is the only omnic we have that existed before the crisis, so he would be 30+

viscid flame
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Omnics are interesting, some parts of the universe build em up to be as strong and durable as a Terminator, with them able to survive massive damage so long as vital components like the CPU aren't destroyed. They can presumably even be put into different bodies, like how Bob was reduced to a head, Other stories show them being much more vulnerable to injuries and death, and the necessity of maintenance to prevent their bodies from falling apart over-time

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But yea as long an Omnic in a good environment with the ability to maintain themselves, they could be immortal. Assuming Omnics don't develop problems in their body's software and hardware

limpid agate
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I dont know if any other major omnics were confirmed to be older or not

peak escarp
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immortal implies unable to die, not just lives forever

upbeat violet
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there’s different types of immortal

merry mason
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limpid agate
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Which
1 - May not canonically exist
2 - If it does, the actual effect in game is making things phase through you temporarily, not making your immortal

cedar hedge
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do we have a document of what's canon in-game and what's not?

rare trail
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like what abilties?

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or maps?

peak escarp
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there was a list, but I dont think it has been kept up

cedar hedge
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anything ingame

rare trail
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i think all maps are canon

cedar hedge
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this one

rare trail
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but like the characters there and what theyre doing arent necessarily canon

cedar hedge
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isn't pharah still a member of helix and not of overwatch? I thought she turned down the invitation

cedar hedge
rare trail
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i thought she joined overwatch in new blood

peak escarp
cedar hedge
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oh alr

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I had been browsing the wiki for a while and there's a bunch of mentions of cass/tracer asking pharah if she wants to join and she says that she'll remain w/ helix

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which is why I was confused

rare trail
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yeah wiki is off a lot of the time

golden oak
# peak escarp

Imagine if pharah just got shot instantly like in the game lmao

peak escarp
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there's two, one isn't very reliable

cedar hedge
peak escarp
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idk

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oh, I see what you're talking about

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Tracer and Reinhardt forwarded her the Recall message, but she turned them down

worthy rose
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Sex in overwatch

twilit patrol
zenith mango
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Why was a pve channel added

worthy rose
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So people could go and complain there instead of in every other channel

zenith mango
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Lol

warped sparrow
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Dmc5 ow2 collab ever gonna happen?

rare trail
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i doubt it

warped sparrow
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😦

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I really want a genji vergill skin

rare trail
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not impossible but with this whole pve mess i doubt people wanna associate with blizz

zenith mango
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Is it more worth it to master hanzo widow or hanzo?

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Wrong channel sorry

ivory garnet
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dont see why series wouldnt want to associate with blizz because of their pve mishap lol

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we already know we’re getting another collab

peak escarp
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yeah there's already another collab announced

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this isn't nearly as bad as people are making it out to be

ivory garnet
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not at all

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its just disappointing

peak escarp
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5v5 was worse

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and we got over that

twilit patrol
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5v5 isn't bad

worthy rose
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Its bad

peak escarp
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I mean the reaction to it

twilit patrol
worthy rose
upbeat violet
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sounds a lot like ow1

ivory garnet
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they'd make money

rare trail
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youre telling me companies arent my friends?

past copper
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The whole PvE is just getting blown outta proportion

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I think the direction they're taking the story is fine

past copper
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Frankly, I thought the talent trees were...

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Honestly too much over all

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And the hero hero missions, I'm willing to bet will be added in a later date

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Regardless, I want the story missions more than the hero missions

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peak escarp
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in the "season 7 and beyond" section of the roadmap

zenith mango
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Why did they switch it to 5v5 anyway

warped latch
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When does season 5 start? And is Questwatch just a theme or a new collab?

peak escarp
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easier to balance

peak escarp
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season 5's theme is "mischief & magic"

warped latch
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Gotcha. I appreciate the work you do here, Doctor

peak escarp
worthy rose
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Does anyone else think lifeweaver has the worst lore in the game

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I still don't understand it, it feels unnatural

peak escarp
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how so?

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it's basically Symmetra and Lucio's backstories combined

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nothing unnatural about that

fresh rock
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What was happening to Widow's skin? Why was it slowly changing?

stable harness
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what even is his lore

upbeat violet
fresh rock
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Woah. Thanks again! That question has been killing me for a while now.

worthy rose
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after they promised one every season

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company is an L

peak escarp
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they never promised one every season

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they said every other season

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we didn't have a hero in season 3 either

peak escarp
dark hemlock
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funny

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# stable harness what even is his lore

Born in Thailand as a middle child in a family of wealth. He was too smart for the schools he was going to, so his parents sent him to Vishkar academy(where he met Symmetra). He didn’t like the rigid atmosphere and was only really close with Symmetra. He traveled the world during breaks and he realized how much pain and suffering there was in the world and wanted to help it. He created biolight by using resources from Vishkar to help people in need. He eventually left the school as Vishkar did not agree with his want to share biolight with the world, claiming it was their technology he was using. His parents cut him off, and he went to Atlantic Arcology where he would continue to perfect his biolight technology.

rare trail
peak escarp
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we're not getting a hero in season 7

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well

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probably not

rare trail
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Oh wait I read the roadmap wrong

peak escarp
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that section was "season 7 and beyond"

rare trail
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Yeah

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Mb

peak escarp
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we're supposed to get a map every odd season, but the season 5 section doesn't mention a map

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peak escarp
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that's season 6

winged sierra
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What even is Flashpoint? Did they even describe what it'll be?

peak escarp
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it's a new game mode that will launch with 2 maps

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beyond that, we don't know

winged sierra
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It might be the gamemode they have in Starwatch? With the multiple points?

peak escarp
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maybe

winged sierra
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Also did they say it will launch with 2 maps or is that rumored?

peak escarp
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they said that in an interview

winged sierra
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Ahh okay, hopefully it is the starwatch game mode style so they can bring back some of the 2CP maps it'll surely be interesting

limpid agate
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I dont think itll be 4CP

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If it is

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I hope its not random objectives like Starwatch

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But that's past the point, we know it has 2 maps and one is India

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The second might be Gothenburg

gray kayak
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@paper gazelle smart TE_WeSmart

paper gazelle
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Lowkey for a moment I thought I was gonna be in trouble hahaha

gray kayak
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Just be sure to use this channel appropriately. Deleting your response to that convo was a good idea. cheers

paper gazelle
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Yes I'll stay away from shitposting from now on, thank you 🙂

quiet rune
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Are yall talking about the breakpoint gamemode or whatever?

quiet rune
fresh rock
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Because Season 7 is going to be a map season.

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If it's even, it's a hero, if it's odd, it's a map.

quiet rune
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That

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makes sense

paper gazelle
quiet rune
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nah, the stuff above that

paper gazelle
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Oh right my bad

quiet rune
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is ok

junior schooner
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Does anyone know what was actually left of genjis body after hanzo killed him, in the short his face looks torn

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More so decayed

worthy rose
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Parts of if not most of his legs were replaced with prosthetics, and also at least his lower right arm. He probably also suffered a severe spine injury

junior schooner
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Wtf did he do to him

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Did he torture him or kill him

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I’m going to try using this channel more tbh

worthy rose
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I'm not certain if his legs were actually severely injured, but a severe spine injury can cripple anyone, so it would make sense to give him prosthetic legs alongside fixing his spine in whatever way

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Perhaps a lethal cut to his right arm and then a severe wound in the back

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Plus other injuries in other areas, like his face

viscid flame
junior schooner
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So how could hanzo withstand a dragon strike

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He literally just fell to his knees and was weakened as to genji

viscid flame
junior schooner
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I’m sure lore warlord can explain

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Maybe it was just for plot

viscid flame
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Perhaps it was something Genji did as he was redirecting those Dragons into his direction

After-all we've seen that Genji's Dragonblade can slice through thick metal like its nothing

dense nebula
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My guess is being hit by the dragons is less being scorched alive and moreso having a large force applied to you

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Whereas what happened to Genji was he was cut up by Hanzo’s blade

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Being hit by a spiritual force is one thing, being hit with solid steel blades is another

junior schooner
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That’s also true

junior schooner
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With ease

elder marsh
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See my pfp? That's what I did to Hammond after his stupid ahh knocked me off map😡

ivory garnet
junior schooner
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Gotcha

ivory garnet
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alot of his prosthetics couldve just been from surgery

ivory garnet
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to make it compatible with his exo-spine

junior schooner
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That’s also true

ivory garnet
quiet rune
# ivory garnet

Burn scars probably came after Blackwatch because they are not in the Blackwatch skin which came after the animated short

ivory garnet
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probably

junior schooner
quiet rune
stuck stump
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whats the likelyhood of one of the heroes dying in the story?

limpid agate
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0

peak escarp
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slim to none

upbeat violet
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i really doubt they kill a hero

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it wouldn’t be practical

worn merlin
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I Hope they kill lifeweaver off

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Annoying af Char to Play tank against.

candid schooner
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Damn, Hanzo was really better with a sword.

peak escarp
stuck stump
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no

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@narrow mountain sorry to ping but

narrow mountain
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ty

stuck stump
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np

honest spear
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ppl say widowmaker is a "bad guy" but no one ever asks if Gérard LaCroix had bad vibes?

peak escarp
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Gerard was working with Overwatch to take down Talon

rare trail
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"Story Missions tell a linear narrative about the heroes of Overwatch reuniting and battling the new Null Sector threat, pushing the story of Overwatch forward for the first time since our original game released. These missions take place on huge maps with new enemies and new cinematics. We will begin to release them in Season 6. The work done here is amazing, leaps and bounds above what we’ve built for PvE previously in our game, and I can't wait for our players to get their hands on them. We’ll be sharing more details there in the coming weeks."

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so thats cool more stuff about the story

wind portal
subtle dust
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Are kiriko genji and hanzo in the same age range? I'd say her mom trained the bros before she was born but I'm pretty sure there is a spray of all of them training

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Or at least an image of it

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ivory garnet
gray kayak
peak escarp
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I found it on Tumblr 😛

junior schooner
wind portal
junior schooner
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True

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Just wish the lore in a way showed how it happened

wind portal
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we can likely assume that they have some greater regen then most normal humans

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because of how they interact with humans

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spirits*

rare trail
wind portal
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a 'normal' human would still die to that however

rare trail
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genji wasnt trying to murder hanzo there

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we dont really know how a normal human would've stood up to it

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also i dont think it was ever confirmed that genji was hit by a dragonstrike when hanzo nearly killed him

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hanzo wasnt using a bow at the time

wind portal
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he might have used it with a sword if used at all

rare trail
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yeah

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i think hanzo survived in dragons because genji wasnt trying to kill him

peak escarp
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the dragon seemed to drain his energy briefly

urban lava
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LfPlatinum
Damage 0/2
Support 1/2

upper wharf
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Is Reaper racist

peak escarp
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no

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why would he be?

dark hemlock
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this is the second time i've seen someone ask that lol

subtle dust
subtle dust
peak escarp
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why would Doomfist be racist?

subtle dust
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There's a video on the matter but since OW's story is more divided on Omnics and Humans. There might be a little bit of racism between average humans and genetically modified/changed ones. Ie Soilder 76 is kinda like Captain America.

subtle dust
peak escarp
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as far as we know, genetically modified humans aren't that common

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cyborgs are somewhat common, and do face discrimination, according to the Sojourn novel

subtle dust
rare trail
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the most racist playable characters are probably like the junkers

peak escarp
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Zarya and Torbjorn also showed discrimination towards omnics, but Torbjorn met Bastion and realized maybe there was actually something to the whole "sentience" thing, and Zarya met Lynx Seventeen and realized that not all omnics are bad and she should direct her hatred at the ones currently attacking her country

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so they've had some character progression

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there hasn't been any racism shown to humans, and I don't think there will be

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that's not the kind of story this is

ivory garnet
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dont see why Cass, Ashe, or Soldier would be either

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racist ^

peak escarp
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because they're white Americans

honest spear
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But what if he had bad vibes

honest spear
peak escarp
honest spear
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what if he was killed as reparations for the oppression of Angola

peak escarp
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...what?

fresh rock
austere agate
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wait so how come hanzo is grieving over genji being dead

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then he learns genji is alive

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and tries to kill him right away lol

stuck stump
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what are the details of tracers condition?

peak escarp
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that's a very sibling thing to do

peak escarp
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she can also adjust its effect to use those blips to her advantage (blink/recall)

stuck stump
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thaks, just out of curiosity, does it effect her ageing at all?

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had a friend tell me she canonically 50 years old and i want to know if its true

peak escarp
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no, it doesn't

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she's canonically 26

ivory garnet
austere agate
#

were tracer and winston rookies or new with overwatch at the same time

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and genji?

ivory garnet
#

yes, sort of

#

iirc, the order went Winston -> Genji -> Tracer

#

thats within the main overwatch we know

#

but in all, Genji was the last to join out of all them iirc

merry mason
#

Anyone know where the two guys from the collective are from l?

peak escarp
warped sparrow
#

Who is the uncle ruckus of overwatch?

peak escarp
twilit patrol
#

Who questionmarkCube

merry token
# peak escarp who?

Uncle ruckus is a character from the show ‘The Boondocks’ which satirizes stereotypes and issues in the black-American community. Ruckus is black but is blind and is not aware he is black so he’s racist towards other black people.

#

So yeah, the person was joking when they were asking but in a serious context there are no characters that are not aware they are omnic/human and super racist towards people of their own kind 💀

peak escarp
#

ah

#

why are randoms so obsessed with racism?

past copper
#

Because people are looking for meme trash for when pride symbolism shows up in OW

#

That fact of the matter is tho, there is no Uncle Ruckus in a game that's focused on equality

hollow tinsel
#

Other than sigma, who would be the strongest character lore-wise

twilit patrol
#

Winton

cloud cypress
#

Hiiiiii -uwu ermmmm discord mod plzzz?

hollow tinsel
#

^^Ban this user^^

merry token
rare trail
wind portal
merry token
#

Dead😭

rare trail
#

she has hardlight

#

shes basically green lantern but without the will power thing

#

her comic shows some of her powers

hollow tinsel
#

Oh

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Wouldn't life weaver do that to??

wind portal
#

biolight is different than hardlight

peak escarp
#

he can still manipulate hardlight too

#

probably just not as well as symmetra

hollow tinsel
#

What about ramattra? Hes an omnic, so he's already stronger than humans, plus, his nemesis form gives him another advantage over the others

rare trail
#

nemesis isnt canon so

delicate trellis
#

But its in the game

#

That would mean the game isnt canon

wind portal
delicate trellis
#

that doesnt make much sense

#

why would they put something in their game if it wasnt canon?

rare trail
#

idk

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ask blizz

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in game doesnt equal canon

wind portal
ivory garnet
#

because if there were to be PvP = PvE in terms of abilities

#

some heroes wouldnt be playable

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and some would dominate

#

top 5 strongest are
Sigma (potentially)
Symmetra (potentially)
Winston
Orisa
Doom or Reaper

upbeat violet
#

id say that’s pretty much it

shadow marsh
#

Most of it is for gameplay mechanics, however with the upcoming Story missions in season 6, some hero abilities may eventually become canon. Rammattra is the current big bad in lore so it is a possibility his Nemesis form could be canon for the Boss Fight.

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Anything that is shown in cutscenes.

opaque tundra
#

I bet a good amount of abilities will become canon. With a good balance of canon and non-canon, the writers can have a lot of creative freedom with things they can do in cutscenes

silver tide
#

How strong could Ramattra’s Nemesis form be if it was canon?

opaque tundra
#

As strong as the plot demands

shadow marsh
#

His orb staff or how the way his nanites works might be explained in the future considering he is an engineer as well.

fading snow
#

So whats life weaver's lore??

upbeat violet
#

here

vapid ledge
# fading snow So whats life weaver's lore??

He's a biologist i think who attended the same vishkar academy as sym. He rebeled against his family for how they treated the environment. He created bio light and went out to help the wildlife

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I think i summed it up

potent briar
#

Vishkar also wants his biolight because it was created on their property. So now LW is wanted in like 16 countries.

peak escarp
#

it was created using their tech

sick tartan
#

Can someone give me symmetra's lore?

ivory garnet
#

!!loreheroes symmetra

twilit nacelleBOT
#
keen summit
keen summit
#

every OTHER season new hero

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every even one

keen summit
twilit patrol
warped sparrow
#

Could overwatch and talon beat alduin from skyrim?

peak escarp
#

do guns work on Alduin?

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then yes

ivory garnet
#

i’d assume machinery like guns would work on stuff in Skyrim

peak escarp
#

dragons are pretty easy to take down if you outnumber them

worthy rose
#

or if you are ornstein

peak escarp
#

it's simple action economy

fallen juniper
#

reinhardt killed a dragon

twilit patrol
peak escarp
#

Reinhardt imagined a biker gang was a dragon

worn merlin
#

IS widowmaker gay?

proper monolith
#

She’s a widow

#

Has a dead husband

rare trail
#

widowmaker was married to a man and has never shown interest in women

#

its not impossible for her to be bi or pan but theres nothing showing she is

twilit patrol
#

Hmm she can't be gay

stuck stump
#

does widow regret killing her husband? i know she cant really feel emotions but it seems like she might deep down

rare trail
stuck stump
#

i wonder if she'll undergo a redemption arc of sorts

upbeat violet
#

i doubt it

#

at least not anytime soon

ivory garnet
#

none of the villains or antags will turn to the light

#

with the exception of Sombra and Maximillien

#

as both are gray

merry token
sonic vale
#

Does anybody know about any fan art of the yokai gang? Or any official art other than the obvious ones

vocal marsh
#

Moira also isn’t horribly corrupt, she truly believes that she’s helping humanity

#

It’s just that her ways are questionable at best

peak escarp
#

Moira doesn't care about helping humanity

#

she just wants to advance science

#

the monologue in her origin trailer boils down to "imagine what science could do without any limits"

vocal marsh
#

Yeah that’s what I mean

#

Basically she’s not doing it out of pure greed

peak escarp
#

no

#

but she doesn't give a shit about humanity either

vocal marsh
#

I’d say she just has a lack of empathy

worthy rose
#

💎

#

!!loreheroes orisa

twilit nacelleBOT
#
worthy rose
#

!!loreheroes ana

twilit nacelleBOT
#
worthy rose
#

!!loreheroes mercy

twilit nacelleBOT
#
worthy rose
#

!!loreheroes morei

twilit nacelleBOT
little shell
#

!!loreheroes Baptiste

keen summit
worn merlin
keen summit
#

have you seen them?

#

they despise eachother

peak escarp
#

it would never work, even if Widow was gay

keen summit
#

and widow still mourns her dead husband on christmas

worn merlin
worn merlin
keen summit
#
  • tracer is also in a relationship
worn merlin
keen summit
#

widow killed an important member of overwatch, killed the most important omnic and then laughed in tracers face about it

#

the queer people are soldier, tracer, lifeweaver and very likely bap

worthy rose
#

Soldier?

#

Wait what

keen summit
#

yeah

#

confirmed in bastet

#

he had a bf

worthy rose
#

Did not expect that one ngl

peak escarp
#

Soldier had a boyfriend before the omnic crisis, but they couldn't work it out

#

Soldier was married to the army

keen summit
#

thats kinda the point, that he isnt a stereotypical thing

worthy rose
#

Yeah

#

Closeted army vet old dude

keen summit
#

well hes not closeted

#

its just that he doesnt have a reason to scream that hes gay

worthy rose
#

Is there like a big website or something where i can read heroes lore?

keen summit
#

also always the wiki has alot too

peak escarp
#

look in the pins

#

I have a database

keen summit
#

if you want to read it firsthand there are novels, comics and much more

worthy rose
#

ORISA IS 1 MONTH OLD?

peak escarp
#

she was in OW1

keen summit
peak escarp
#

probably a few years

keen summit
#

yeah

worthy rose
#

Ball is 14 lol thats funny

keen summit
#

i mean its a hamster

peak escarp
#

he's a toxic teenager

keen summit
#

profanity filter n stuff

worthy rose
#

Damn souj is oldy too i honestly though she just had dyed hair

peak escarp
#

nope, she fought in the crisis

keen summit
worthy rose
keen summit
#

atleast thats my theory

#

dunno if its confirmed

#

(soj is mega uninteresting imho)

peak escarp
#

she does have a lot of cybernetics

#

probably as much as Genji

worthy rose
#

Wasn't genji like 60% cyber

peak escarp
#

more than that

keen summit
worthy rose
#

Damn

keen summit
#

cuz logically it would make sense, less organic less well aging of what you do have

hexed terrace
#

in the lore was genji robotified first or Sojourn

keen summit
#

soj was robotified at a young age

deep geyser
#

Let me cook rq

#

I think

#

Sigma will kill doomfist in the lore

#

But he will sacrifice himself as well by pulling him and doomfist into a black hole

#

Then reaper takes over talon after beating the shit out of everyone else to prove he's the strongest

keen summit
deep geyser
deep geyser
keen summit
#

orisa is legit a device to fight doom, they wouldnt just make sigma do it

deep geyser
#

They most likely will

#

If sigma gains his full stability once again and realize what he has been doing is wrong and the team he's been on has been the wrong team for his science

#

He will challenge doom

keen summit
#

sigma wouldnt rather kill him

#

he'd rather not fight

#

orisa will probs rematch. my theory is that itll be orisa vs doom while sombra tries to hack into her and overwatch is stopping sombra

#

why? orisa is legit one of the strongest in lore confirmed

#

and made to fight doom

deep geyser
#

I honestly don't think orisa would have it in her to actually win against doom

deep geyser
#

But like

keen summit
#

once in her prototype phase

deep geyser
#

She most likely won't kill him and end his terror

#

She mentally doesn't have it in her

keen summit
#

the reason why he could get out was cuz moles

#

if overwatch is back they could actually hold him

deep geyser
#

Probably

#

But idfk I honestly just wanted to make a cool theory that most likely won't happen

#

I'm gonna cry in a corner if it doesn't happen

keen summit
#

its fine

#

sigma is likely to get free tho

#

its just that he'll probs help overwatch, might even help orisa have a way of really stopping doom cuz well her problem is that she just outlasts doom and cant get pushed around, so if he gets away well hes gone. so say having a way of keeping him there like with gravity tech...

#

like she already had in a weaker form

deep geyser
#

Maybe Winston and orisa will team up or sum

#

They've both fought him before

keen summit
#

likely

#

winston will devo have rematch

#

but probs will lose cuz well they implimented orisa

#

and lucio is connected to her

deep geyser
#

Prob

keen summit
#

so its probs that doom got stronger and well winston older

#

he got rusty

fickle fox
#

,

keen summit
#

decided to say here but its highly likely next tank hero is mauga

#

there were two posters on antartica

#

One now tied to new support hero while the second one from samoa is where mauga is most likely from

upbeat violet
#

yeah most likely

#

i don’t remember who but someone said it before

cedar hedge
#

mauga as a tank would be sick

keen summit
viscid flame
spare flax
#

I wonder tho. What is Emily's full name. (traces girlfriend) we only got one name but never her full name. For some reason I was thinking she is torbs secret daughter.

upbeat violet
#

😟

quiet rune
#

Torb loves his wife

cedar hedge
spare flax
potent briar
#

Emily emily

trim glen
#

tbf

zenith mango
#

Do vishkar people

#

Like

#

Get their hands chopped off

peak escarp
#

maybe

#

every architech we've seen has had a prosthetic arm

zenith mango
#

Yeah

#

That’s why I’m asking

peak escarp
#

Sym is the only one with her left arm replaced

#

the rest have their right

zenith mango
#

Maybe because she’s a lefty

peak escarp
#

maybe

#

we don't have any heroes confirmed as lefties, but there's a few I think probably are

zenith mango
#

It doesn’t make sense for me for Genji to be a lefty

#

He throws with his right

#

And his sword stance/the way he swings is rights

#

Righty

peak escarp
#

being left-handed is very discouraged in Japan

#

in kendo, you're trained to use your right, regardless of dominant hand

zenith mango
#

Oh

peak escarp
#

but in the image above, he's writing with his left

zenith mango
#

What about Kiriko then

#

She throws with her left

#

Wait no she doesn’t I’m stupid

#

Does she?

peak escarp
#

she does throw kunai with her left

#

but she throws ofuda with her right

#

she's basically dual wielding

zenith mango
#

She might be ambidextrous

peak escarp
#

maybe

#

Mei also uses both left and right - you can see it in Rise and Shine

merry token
peak escarp
#

it's probably so they always have a way to create hardlight

rare trail
#

they could've just flipped the image if they wanted to have it be seen well

upbeat violet
#

this is what I see in the lore codex

#

we’d have the answer to simple questions like what’s their dominant hand

peak escarp
#

they could have drawn/animated them using their other hand and it would still be clear what they're doing

quiet rune
quiet rune
ivory garnet
#

its just dual wielding since its 2 single handheld items

#

like when Spec Ops use a pistol and knife combo

#

you then have 2 weapons right at your disposal

#

but in her case, she has a weapon and utility

quiet rune
#

but which one is more important

#

the Ofuda is in her right hand, and is the default trigger button (not that that means anything)

warm locust
#

I'd say both are important

#

But based on the short

#

She uses the kunai more

#

Only using the ofuda on the old person iirc

#

I may be completely wrong and just rambling nonsense

silk frost
#

did we ever find out what that purple glowing cube in the train hopper comic was? if not what’s the most likely explanation

peak escarp
#

a data core? idk

#

it won't be important again

haughty plume
#

ik this sounds stupid but why is moria so rude n mean

#

like jesus

cedar hedge
#

she doesnt really care abt anyone

#

just kinda speaks her opinion, which is usually negative

#

doesnt really show care towards anyone but def shows annoyance

#

just kinda her personality

merry token
#

She just cares about advancing evolution

#

That’s it

haughty plume
#

damn

past copper
#

But the currebt writers probably won't expand on it that

peak escarp
#

exactly

past copper
#

Just saying tho, it must've been pretty important if Talon was willing to attack a public train fir it

peak escarp
#

we'll probably never know what it was

#

it'll just show up in the background of a comic panel or something as an easter egg

past copper
#

Even more to the mystery of what it was

#

Is who put it on the train and why

#

If someone between the writers n devs remember it, could hint at a future hero

peak escarp
#

considering all the other dropped threads from the early comics and artworks, I doubt it

#

those pre-launch comics are becoming less reliable by the year

#

remember when Anubis was just "one of the god programs Overwatch quarantined after the crisis"?

past copper
#

Honestly, multiple God programs made more sense

peak escarp
#

there's still people who think Athena is a god program

past copper
#

Bc otherwise, what's operating the factories attacking Russia and Busan

#

I won't hold ya, I get trying to build a world sized story, but too many changes can make or break it

#

But whatever. Just as long I get to play the story missions, I'll accept whatever changes they make

peak escarp
#

they've been good at keeping the lore consistent

#

even if a few retcons were necessary

keen summit
jovial narwhal
#

Lf tank high masters

karmic turret
past copper
#

B) The factory attacking Busan has never been shut down since the 1st Crisis

#

Ram has no interest in using old units anymore and it's very unlikely Talon could even get near the factories

#

Besides. Pretty sure the story behind them is that Anubis is somehow still running the active factories

#

Despite being quarantined by Pharah and her team

quiet rune
peak escarp
karmic turret
formal birch
#

Overwatch = 🤡 🤡🤡

twilit patrol
peak escarp
#

yeah, and?

upbeat violet
shy spire
#

Kratos is my grandma

twilit patrol
west parrot
#

Why does hanzo get 2 dragons but genji 1?

rare trail
#

one dragon would make the hitbox look weird and be confusing

west parrot
#

Lore wise B(

rare trail
#

the reason lore wise is because its like that in game

#

and its like that in game for gameplay considerations

west parrot
#

Yea but why

wind portal
west parrot
#

Like what ties in to it

rare trail
#

nothing really

#

genji has two dragons in lore bc its like that in game

wind portal
#

Hanzo was stronger than genji before genji got his cybernetics, so that might also be a reason

gritty nexus
# west parrot Yea but why

unfortunately i dont think theres any real lore reason. its only for the hitbox not to be weird as there were complains abt it in ow1. i doubt they will ever expand on it

limpid agate
#

It would just look worse

west parrot
#

Sad

rare trail
#

might be expanded upon in hanzo short story

#

i doubt it though

upbeat violet
ivory garnet
#

its Hanzo’s short story

#

not Null Sector story

upbeat violet
#

the story is about a null sector attack in japan

#

if im not wrong

#

As Null Sector drop pods rain down on Tokyo, Hanzo hears the ghost of his father—and meets with a familiar face—in an electrifying tale by E.C. Myers.

#

but rereading that i take back my statement

quiet rune
#

When is this coming out?

peak escarp
#

the collection is set to release later this year

past copper
#

Supposed to be sometime after next season. Tho, might be a novel that drops in October

peak escarp
#

oh they changed the release date again

past copper
#

Ok. Someone, either the writers or Amazon, is fucking up if they can't figure out a release date or something

#

Bc that's just ridiculous waiting to release it next year

#

Though, I bet something that don't help is more heroes addes to the game before more novels can be released

#

Gotta fit everyone into the OW world somehow

stuck stump
#

just wanted to saay lore warlord is cool

upbeat violet
#

she is very cool

peak escarp
#

😊

static sierra
#

Genji has 1 dragon Hanso has 2 explain

rare trail
#

Hit box of dragon strike would look weird with one dragon

static sierra
#

Make a very big dragon easy

rare trail
#

They could’ve but devs probably thought the spiraling would look cooler

wind portal
#

if I had to guess through a speculated reason, Hanzo was stronger than Genji before Genji got his cybernetics, which would explain why Hanzo had 2 dragons and Genji only had one

rare trail
#

A theory I have is hanzo maybe got his fathers dragon when he died because hanzo is the eldest son

wind portal
#

that too

rare trail
#

But there’s no official explanation yet

wind portal
#

I think Hanzo being stronger would make sense though since the tale went that the blue dragon killed the green dragon in the folk tale

past copper
#

So, while the hero missions are a bust, think we'll still get the all showcased Null Sector enemies in Story Missions

peak escarp
#

yes

past copper
#

Cool. Tho, I was mostly talking bout the bombers

#

Pretty sure it was a hero mission they were demoed in

peak escarp
#

they could be used in both

#

Uprising had a similar unit

limpid agate
#

We dont know what we are or arent getting when it comes to enemies.

past copper
#

True. Guess depends how many missions will involve escorts

limpid agate
#

We can probably predict all those in Rio would also be here

#

But the only 1000% confirmed thing is the stock Nulltrooper

past copper
#

Come to think of it. We might see the bombers on the Gothenburg mission

#

It seems to involve escort and activating anti air guns

peak escarp
#

the only one of those enemy units confirmed to be in story missions is the Puller

past copper
#

Hmm. Would the Titan count as unit

limpid agate
#

Probably not

past copper
#

Well, one drops down in a mission

#

Based on the map, it looks like the Gothenburg mission possibly as a final boss

silk frost
#

how did mccree lose his arm?

limpid agate
#

We dont know

quiet rune
limpid agate
#

Doesnt matter what his name is

#

We dont know

silk frost
peak escarp
#

I used to think he had a run-in with the Deadlock gang and they took his arm as punishment for betraying the gang... but then we got Reunion and that idea didn't work anymore

#

I don't currently have a theory on it

silk frost
#

it was actually the reunion cinematic that got me thinking in the first place

#

i wondered if ashe threatening him with bob ripping off his other arm implied that’s how he lost his left arm?

#

but that’s definitely me overthinking it

rare trail
#

does he have his arm in deadlock rebels?

limpid agate
#

He has his other arm when he leaves Overwatch 6 years ago

#

So no, Bob didnt rip it off

merry token
rare trail
#

i thought he didnt have his arm in blackwatch

merry token
rare trail
#

oh wait nvm he does

#

whats the earliest we see him with it?

merry token
#

I will always remember how the creator of Ashe’s deadlock skin literally got called slurs by someone using the skin they made 💀

rare trail
#

new blood? reunion?

stuck stump
#

are blackwatch evil?

rare trail
#

not really

#

more grey

#

mostly good

#

but shady

#

i mean thye killed someone and got overwatch taken donw

limpid agate
#

So he lost it some time between leaving Overwatch and Overwatch 1

ivory garnet
rain shoal
# past copper

that weird jumping one in the right is most likely going to be in the story missions, it was shown briefly in the gamespot trailer for the PvE 11 months ago

limpid agate
#

Train Hopper/Overwatch 1

#

Reunion takes place some time after Recall

#

Train Hopper was before Recall

rain shoal
# past copper

Lets hope that none of these (+ the drone one and the 4 legged one) were scrapped along with the hero missions

past copper
#

Very unlikely. Otherwise they wouldn't have enemies for the story missions

#

Fun match up. Who would win? Junker Queen vs Ramattra

wind portal
#

Junker Queen probably has an edge in dealing with omnics, but we don't know how strong Ram is yet

keen summit
keen summit
#

if he can pull a gilgamesh and create tons of weapons and just launch them, long as they arent magnetic, jq would probs lose, if they are magnetic, honestly rama would be in danger

fossil chasm
#

isn’t nemesis form not canon or something

#

feel like that discussion was had here a few days back

peak escarp
#

we haven't seen him use it

past copper
#

I mean, that's the thing. I almost feel JQ can counter Ram's nanobots with her gauntlet

#

We've seen how effective it is in hardcore fights

#

Plus the way she defeated Howl was beyond impressive

#

I don't know how nanobots would fair against magnetism tho

wind portal
#

the main issue comes down to JQ's weapons being mainly designed to fight omnics, or optimized to fighting omnics, as she's fought a lot of aggressive omnics in the past.

peak escarp
#

she also says she's fought (and I assume, beaten) Ravagers before

keen summit
keen summit
keen summit
#

We dont know how much he could do with it, kinda like sigma, we know that they can do something but not to what extent

#

But rama would probs have a clear limit cuz well nanobots aint infinite

viscid flame
#

Grey Goop

quiet rune
fast beacon
#

I think I've figured out how Zen's orbs and ult work. If Ranmattra can generate a limitless supply of nanobots from nowhere, what if Zen's orbs are just filled with healing or debuffing nanobots? It would also make his ult the antithesis of Ranmattras if it works like that, as it would still be a large nanobot swarm that just does the opposite of Ranmattra's ult.

young lily
#

Is sigma still continuing his research/experiments

quiet rune
limpid agate
#

Yeah, its mostly wrong

#

His kit has nothing to do with nanobots

quiet rune
#

Yea, I mean, it’s a pretty big chunk of text

#

But it makes sense

worn thunder
young lily
#

Do we know what sigma thinks he’s doing in talon

limpid agate
#

Research

worn thunder
#

He was just a prisoner but they needed him for his intellect, to use and abuse his powers however they choose

peak escarp
#

Ramattra uses nanites

#

there's no evidence that Zenyatta does

dense nebula
#

Sigma is like an SCP, requires constant heavy surveillance and numerous contingency plans for if he goes awry

#

And May God help you if you’re near when he goes into a frenzy

#

We don’t know the full scope of what Sigma can do if he enters a manic state do we?

peak escarp
#

we don't know if he ever has manic states

slate haven
#

sigma braids his pubic hairs

rare trail
#

?

past copper
twilit nacelleBOT
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Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

worthy rose
dark hemlock
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lore channel asking the real questions, as always

keen summit
queen vortex
fossil chasm
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it’s conveniently not showing up in search, what was the question

peak escarp
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maybe don't ask ridiculous questions in a serious discussion channel then

upbeat violet
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who do you guys think is the person that ana and soldier meet

worthy rose
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hideo kojima

upbeat violet
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could be

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hopefully that’s the case

peak escarp
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considering Symmetra's story likely features LW, and Hanzo's story likely features Kiriko

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I would guess that any new characters introduced in these stories are planned heroes

upbeat violet
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yeah

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it’d also be nice to have a new hero with ties to old overwatch

limpid agate
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Since its gonna be in Turkey, I am leaning to the latter

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But both have established ties to knowing Dr. Faisal in Bastet

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And he doesnt have a fixed location he is tied to

blissful bronze
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past copper
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Seems Hanzo might also team up with Kiriko

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To defend the city from Null Sector from the sounds of things

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Hmm. I wonder if that means we won't get a story mission in Japan?

peak escarp
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probably not

past copper
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Kinda only think that bc of the release date pushed back to 2024

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But hey, at least we see what Hanzo been up to after several years

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Last time we ever saw him was Reflections

peak escarp
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it's been 7 years since he's been featured in the lore

upbeat violet
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that does seem like a long time

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then again he’s not really as popular compared to other characters like Genji or Reaper

past copper
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I disagree. And I don't just say that bc he one of my mains

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I think he's a very interesting character bc he's dealing with personal conflicts between family, enemies, and more

merry token
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People generally do prefer genji

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Especially since his design is more “appealing”

past copper
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I mean no offense, but Genji mostly seems like a metal gear rip off

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Not that it's a bad thing. Heck, I think people just like the idea of a cybernetic ninja

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Grey Fox is who I'm thinking off

silver tide
peak escarp
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probably not