damn
#lore-discussion
rare trail
worthy rose
The scrapped skill tree is genuinely the first time in my time of playing Overwatch that I genuinely felt just the tiniest smidge of disappointment
digital forum
Maybe they'll still keep some stuff from the talent tree, but now they're consumables or grabbables
worthy rose
One-time use of 360 shatter or sum
magic epoch
there is none
dim horizon
We get 14 minutes of lore. Worth the wait.
magic epoch
small, episodic pve missions
and youll probably have to buy the battle pass for them cuz they said it would be linked to it
3 years
probably longer development time
peak escarp
the point of the PvE is the same as it has always been - to have a playable story
worthy rose
Yep, and that's what we're gonna get
magic epoch
the point of the PvE is the same as it has always been - to have a playable stor...
its not weird to complain about getting 1 episodic story mission every 3 months
thats probably tied behind a 10 dollar paywall
peak escarp
1? where did they say 1?
digital forum
We're saying all these things that we lost yet we dont even know what PvE will have
worthy rose
its not weird to complain about getting 1 episodic story mission every 3 months
Where did they specify it was just 1 mission?
peak escarp
Aaron said a set of missions
magic epoch
oh mb
peak escarp
I'd guess 3-4 per season
magic epoch
its gonna be archives, junkensteins revenge, and mei snowball fight
thats gonna be worth 10 bucks fo so
peak escarp
one of those things is not like the others...
worthy rose
Mei snowball isn't even PvE to begin with
Even if it's just "new" archives, I'm still gonna play it and enjoy it
I mean, I get excited for Junkestein every year lmao
hallow shuttle
I'm new, so I haven't lost shit
peak escarp
I've played the Archives missions hundreds of times and I'll play them a hundred more
because they're fun
dim horizon
I'd guess 3-4 per season
3-4 per season isn't happening. If their whole justification for scrapping this is that it's pulling too many resources.
3-4 in the initial season 6 drop, maybe. 3-4 every season is pie in the sky.
worthy rose
because they're fun
Exactly!
magic epoch
because they're fun
ask anyone, theyd rather have a real campaign
hallow shuttle
or not
peak escarp
3-4 per season isn't happening. If their whole justification for scrapping this ...
their justification was that they didn't want to save everything up for one big drop all at once - spreading it out over seasons means we can get an ongoing campaign
magic epoch
imagine if we got a real campaign, with just a good story
worthy rose
ask anyone, theyd rather have a real campaign
Not me. My minimum requirement for it is that it's fun to play
peak escarp
ask anyone, theyd rather have a real campaign
and that's what we're getting
opaque tundra
38+ heroes each with 40 some talents with assets, animations, bug testing, balancing etc. is definitely a loooot of resources
worthy rose
I don't really know what defines a "real" campaign tbh
peak escarp
So we made a decision later last year that we would focus all of our efforts on the live running game and all of our PvE efforts on this new story arc that we're launching in Season 6. And then on top of that, to keep all of our PvE efforts, all of our co-op efforts, invested in our seasonal releases rather than that one big boxed release.
magic epoch
38+ heroes each with 40 some talents with assets, animations, bug testing, balan...
i mean they are a multi billion dollar company, and they have some of the groundwork already thought out and developed
peak escarp
We have a lot coming out this year, and even if you look at Season 6, it's the biggest season we've ever launched in the history of Overwatch. We have a new Support Hero coming out that season, we have a new game mode. We've never released a new game mode as a seasonal update ever in Overwatch. It has two new maps coming out with Flashpoint. We are running a PvE event that season. We have a whole new type of PvE content that we're releasing with our single-player Hero mastery missions. Overwatch Anniversary is running another event. And then, on top of all of that, we've got the start of our new story arc with new story missions, cinematics, and other lore content such as a lore codex.
dim horizon
their justification was that they didn't want to save everything up for one big ...
Yes, so at best we can hope for 1 story mission per season after the initial drop. Multiple story missions feels far too ambitious - and more importantly, would be something they would have put at the forefront of their update just now if they wanted to cushion the blow of how much they're scrapping.
worthy rose
```We have a lot coming out this year, and even if you look at Season 6, it's th...
I did NOT consider the fact that the new mode needs maps as well, I totally glossed over that
peak escarp
season 6 will be huge
worthy rose
Yeah I just realized now lmao
Well, realized it was bigger than I already knew it was
dim horizon
Haven't had a chance to read this yet, but something for people to digest: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/overwatch-2s-pve-mode-is-being-scrapped-blizzard-explains-what-happened-and-why/1100-6514242/
digital forum
We're also going to have a Peruvian support in S6
The background is a poster of Peru in one of the maps
worthy rose
I do massively prefer new heroes being underpowered on release rather than overpowered
wind portal
season 6 will more or less be the deciding factor in whether or not OW2 will be worth continuing to play or just be the last breath to get more people into it
worthy rose
Yeah Lifeweaver was a pretty big ouch
digital forum
I just remembered, we're probably going to have a medieval mythic skin
novel cypress
The background is a poster of Peru in one of the maps
wet kettle
why do characters hate junkrat
peak escarp
because he's annoying
wet kettle
because he's annoying
i mean he is weird too, he eats his own toenails
hallow shuttle
big brains love him
worn merlin
Did Junkerqueen Date Hog?
hallow shuttle
ew why
rare trail
similar kits doesnt mean they would date
worn merlin
Junkrat smashes Hog?
hallow shuttle
implied, not explied
wet kettle
Junkrat smashes Hog?
opposite
peak escarp
Junkrat and Roadhog are not a couple
hallow shuttle
a couple of mad maxes
wet kettle
weaver asked if they are couple and junkrat said yes
hallow shuttle
not that exact word
rare trail
junkrat didnt understand the question
worn merlin
weaver asked if they are couple and junkrat said yes
I think- thats sarcasm
peak escarp
Junkrat didn't understand what Lifeweaver was getting at
worn merlin
So lifeweaver into hog? Or why He asking so specific
rare trail
i dont think so
peak escarp
he's asking because Junkrat and Roadhog spend a lot of time together
worn merlin
That would be very funny š¤
worn merlin
he's asking because Junkrat and Roadhog spend a lot of time together
Its called required alliance i think
rare trail
?
ivory garnet
new roadmap is interesting
peak escarp
it's called Junkrat hired Roadhog to be his bodyguard in exchange for 50% of the earnings from Junkrat's "treasure"
rare trail
you could argue like qpr for junkrat and roadhog but that feels like a stretch
ivory garnet
new roadmap is interesting
sojourn cinematic might release next season
worn merlin
sojourn cinematic might release next season
What?
ivory garnet
?
rare trail
theres a sojourn cinematic in the works
worn merlin
it's called Junkrat hired Roadhog to be his bodyguard in exchange for 50% of the...
Which Treasureš
ivory garnet
the Hero Missions for PvE is cancelled it seems
worn merlin
the Hero Missions for PvE is cancelled it seems
I want Story Mode..
ivory garnet
Story Missions are still a go
ivory garnet
Season 6 seems to be PvE launch date?
peak escarp
Which Treasureš
the secret he found in the bones of the Australian omnium
which probably has something to do with how Aurora gained sentience
worn merlin
Season 6 seems to be PvE launch date?
Bro what!thats Like 1 year?
worn merlin
You telling me WE took the whole year to Go from Season 1-3 and now you telling me WE get to 6 in 2 months?
ivory garnet
s6 will be august
rare trail
it has not been a year since it came out
worn merlin
weāre in s4 rn
Wtf? For me in Carrier its 3
rare trail
?
worn merlin
Got myself ranked every season and my Last Season says Season 2
zenith mango
How does that make any sense
wet kettle
is roadhog an aussie too?
wet kettle
and mercy and him are couples right?
ivory garnet
and mercy and him are couples right?
that was an april fools joke
peak escarp
he's Australian nationality
ivory garnet
ah alr
peak escarp
but probably Maori ethnicity
ivory garnet
is that under the assumption due to his islander skins?
ivory garnet
oh thats cool
peak escarp
his teacup from his Toast pose (as well as his bedsheet in his house in Junkertown) has kowhaiwhai on it - a Maori design
it's not wrong
worthy rose
is there a lore reason why pve is cancelled
ivory garnet
because it has nothing to do with the actual PvE besides giving you more abilities for PvE
worthy rose
a public hanging
zealous ermine
Okay
ivory garnet
weāre getting the better part of āPvEā
twilit patrol
weāre getting the better part of āPvEā
Yes I think the same
ivory garnet
would it be cool to use new original abilities? definitely. But its not a huge toll lol
peak escarp
some of the talents will get recycled in Event modes
ivory garnet
yeah most likely
on the new roadmap, whats that big new event? for season 5
the Legend of Zelda looking one
peak escarp
they're getting creative with the event modes
ivory garnet
which is amazing
some recycled modes are nice, but thats only if theyāre good
assuming Mischief and Magic has something to do with the event
upbeat violet
would be great if we got a dnd minigame
ivory garnet
new support possibly from Peru aswell
the background on the roadmap
is the same from the travel card in Antarctic Peninsula
peak escarp
maybe
upbeat violet
ive always wanted to try a homebrew ow based dnd campaign
a turn based minigame would be wonderful
i hope they do that someday
zenith mango
Is pve officially no more? Like it will never be a thing?
twilit patrol
https://twitter.com/fakegiraffe/status/1658588766997712896?s=20
The story mode is OW2's DNA and fortunately they didn't cancel story mode.
I'm looking forward for this
upbeat violet
while the talent trees and hero missions are kind of a bummer to not have anymore
im still happy theyre still going through with story mode
i dont think its as big a fuzz as people are making it out to be
zenith mango
So what will the story mode be like? Will you be able to choose your hero?
peak escarp
it will be story-based missions, with set heroes
rain shoal
i dont think its as big a fuzz as people are making it out to be
the problem here is the replayability, if the story missions are just glorified Archives missions then they will get boring without the talent trees to change up the gameplay
versed coral
PVE as they promised is no more. If whatever this "story mode" is was substantial enough to act as a substitute for PVE then surely they would have talked about it more as a form of damage control in their latest update?
What they did talk about was that they will do more of these mini events (similar to Starwatch) throughout the seasons, and that they would be released when they are ready rather than stockpiling a larger mode.
versed coral
the problem here is the replayability, if the story missions are just glorified ...
Yes. They used Starwatch as an example of what they are going for, which means the modes will be tied to seasons and therefore ever shifting and, presumably, not replayable if you miss that season. We don't even know if they'll be battle pass locked
rain shoal
Also wtf is the Hero Mastery on the Season 6 roadmap?
ivory garnet
specific training ranges for specific heroes
ivory garnet
PVE as they promised is no more. If whatever this "story mode" is was substantia...
the story mode IS PvE lmfao
the only thing they got rid of was Hero Missions
ivory garnet
dont trust every tiktok and youtuber saying āPvE is cancelled!!!!!ā
ivory garnet
whoās cinematic will we get in season 5
Sojournās long awaited cinematic
quiet rune
turn based combat in Overwatch
this made my gag reflex act up
ivory garnet
and that is her dog, Murphy
ivory garnet
no idea
they were pretty vague with the whole roadmap
which is why people are stating PvE is cancelled
austere agate
even though thereās a large section called story missions
ivory garnet
100% things we do know are (to my knowledgeā
- Season 5 is Magic themed
- Sojourn Cinematic in season 5
- PvE is still a go (story missions) and Hero Missions are cancelled (skill trees for each heroes for new abilities)
- Season 6 brings a new Support (from Peru???)
rain shoal
dont trust every tiktok and youtuber saying āPvE is cancelled!!!!!ā
they're trying to milk every click they can get
ivory garnet
they did a horrible job explaining everything
ivory garnet
they're trying to milk every click they can get
theyāre doing a very goodjob tho
peak escarp
the community really needs to work on their literacy
they described Hero Mastery as single-player missions that test your skill on a hero, where you can compete to have the highest score
so leaderboards, I assume
ivory garnet
im assuming its training ranges for specific heroes
that aligns with what Doctor Six has just said
kind of like TitanFall 2 tutorial speedruns
Flashpoint seems to be a new map, Indian maybe
the lore codex should work as different sections
Characters
Events in order
rain shoal
Flashpoint seems to be a new map, Indian maybe
why the heck would an indian map be called "Flashpoint"?
peak escarp
Flashpoint is a core gamemode
the India map is for the Flashpoint mode
that map was shown in the 2021 Blizzconline panel
ivory garnet
we should also be getting a new map next season right?
peak escarp
š¤·āāļø
ivory garnet
surprised they didnt put it as one of the tabs for s5
because isnt every odd season a new map?
versed coral
It is cancelled. They literally say in the update "we won't be delivering that hero mode with skill trees [etc], those things just aren't in our plans any more"
Archive style missions are an OW1 feature, not the OW2 PVE mode they advertised. Therefore the entire stated justification for OW2's existence is no longer valid. They could have just kept the OW1 story missions since from what they're describing that's what we're going to get.
ivory garnet
Story mode is PvE
Hero Missions are for heroes to gain new abilities FOR story mode
limpid agate
Story mode is more like Archives
Hero missions were supposed to be the main for of PvE content
Repeatable missions on all maps with random objectives
versed coral
By that definition we already had PVE since OW1, so nothing new
The meat and depth is gone by their own admission
upbeat violet
It is cancelled. They literally say in the update "we won't be delivering that h...
ow2 has new stuff
i believe the gaming engine was changed
or graphics engine
im not sure
peak escarp
the difference is this PvE will always be available, unlike Archives which was limited to 3 weeks out of the year
or at least that's what the plan was
upbeat violet
id have preferred hero missions to still be a plan but i guess not everything goes as planned
im happy that campaign will still be a thing
hopefully gameplay-wise itll bring something new
versed coral
There is no current information saying if these events will be season limited or always available. The co-op examples they give are time limited.
peak escarp
Aaron described it as an ongoing, constantly updating story mode
ivory garnet
the co-op examples they used are Junkensteins iirc
peak escarp
so logically, it would be available all the time
fresh osprey
iirc I think stylosa said it was going to be season limited
peak escarp
why would Stylosa know?
fresh osprey
Granted his source is correct
ivory garnet
just trust the game devs lol
peak escarp
I don't trust anything that isn't said by someone directly working on the game
peak escarp
misinformation is rampant in this community
upbeat violet
yeah
just the amount of clickbait pve is cancelled videos going around already should be enough proof
peak escarp
after the shock dies down, maybe people will focus on the positive parts of the roadmap
ivory garnet
the roadmap is amazing
I didnt actually watch the livestream
so I dont know if they did go in depth with it
peak escarp
you didn't miss much
versed coral
They make no mention on if the story mode is permanent, therefore we cannot assume until more info is revealed
upbeat violet
after the shock dies down, maybe people will focus on the positive parts of the ...
i doubt that'll happen soon
people arent being very optimistic
and lots of misinformation is spreading out
ivory garnet
its due to the string of lackluster content that people dont have hope
and people have too high of expectations
upbeat violet
yeah
they probably cancelled the hero missions because they werent going to be able to meet people's expectations
peak escarp
their justification was that they couldn't meet their own standards in an acceptable timeline
which... eh? I'm willing to wait
but I know a lot of people aren't
upbeat violet
i understand that
but yeah a lot of people arent really willing to wait
if they were to delay pve more i dont think people would take it too good
peak escarp
they could have just said "we know it's taking a long time, so here's Story Missions, the rest is being worked on"
rather than just cancel it
upbeat violet
true
ivory garnet
as someone who just cares about the story, Im just glad they didnt scrap it entirely
upbeat violet
hopefully theyll work on hero missions again someday
peak escarp
as someone who just cares about the story, Im just glad they didnt scrap it enti...
same
the story is what I'm here for
ivory garnet
i dont care in what form we get it in. ofcourse I will like it to be what they originally planned for. But I just need good delivery and storytelling, which from the showing in 2019, I have high hopes for it
rain shoal
they could have just said "we know it's taking a long time, so here's Story Miss...
BRUH IKR!!!! they should've just made at least one talent tree per hero instead of 3 if its gonna take ages or should've just stuck with the 2019 simple talent system
They TOLD US already that the PvE will be split into pieces and we ACCEPTED THAT
shut trench
all we can hope for is they deliver as best they can now
which is gonna be next to nothing
rain shoal
its literally the same thing we saw in 2019 minus the talents, making it no different to an archives event
shut trench
games dead, fuck it
rain shoal
BRUH IKR!!!! they should've just made at least one talent tree per hero instead ...
i would literally take 6 talents or less per hero over ENTIRELY SCRAPING THE WHOLE THING
ocean depot
rain shoal
i get that 3 talent trees with like a dozen+ talents PER HERO of the 37 heroes+ new ones is wayyy to much but just WHY scrap it entirely???
digital forum
Remember when they said there was going to be more than 100+ hero missions
wind portal
and once again, blizzard slowly killing the game because of promised stuff they eventually cancelled and or reworked into something that people didn't want
rain shoal
They've been working on it since like mid 2019 cuz the Storm rising mission in terms of gameplay was just a slightly modified Retribution mission with the SAME ENEMIES so even the Archives in OW1 had to recycle content
versed coral
That they didn't show updates for YEARS of this PVE makes me believe that they had trouble getting it off the ground to begin with. There was that Brazil mission demo in 2019 and then nothing. And if you look at the thumbnail in the roadmap, the "story mode" tile is of that same Brazil mission. It's early days but I suspect that they didn't get much further than that.
umbral escarp
Wasnāt there a leak about brigs skills tho
peak escarp
it was fake
peak escarp
a pretty obvious fake
umbral escarp
a pretty obvious fake
As a mod are you disappointed with the news
rain shoal
That they didn't show updates for YEARS of this PVE makes me believe that they h...
and now every story mission is just gonna be exactly like that minus the talents
peak escarp
as a lore fan I'm disappointed with the news
wind portal
It basically killed any interest in PvE for me tbh
peak escarp
but my disappointment is overshadowed by the excitement that we're finally getting Story Missions after 4 years of waiting
wind portal
knowing it's basically just a slightly fleshed out of the old missions we got back in OW1
upbeat violet
i mean yeah
but we dont know yet
there could possibly be some game spiking mechanic they are waiting to surprise us with
peak escarp
if the Story Missions are half as good as Archives, I'll be happy
upbeat violet
theres also the potential for more lore
umbral escarp
I swear to god if we donāt get to play Genji vs Hanzo
wind portal
That won't happen
peak escarp
we're not going to get that
umbral escarp
Ye but I wish
peak escarp
these will be new stories, pushing the story forward
wind portal
Genji and Hanzo will probably no longer fight if any case
umbral escarp
Yea
wind portal
since Hanzo has accepted it at this point
umbral escarp
Or any kind of fight with hanzo using a sword
I get that prob wonāt happen but maybe it could if they fight null sector
upbeat violet
i wish we got to play the null sector japan story
versed coral
If there is a surprise mechanic then the devs would/should have hinted at it to calm people down. This communication of the PVE cancellation was so late because they knew the community wouldn't take it well, for good reason as it is absolutely bad news.
austere agate
I feel like thereās so much potential for the story and a lot of routes the could explore
but I guess thatās hard to put into pve
versed coral
Should follow in League of Legends footsteps and just make a series. But Blizzard is not that type of company
upbeat violet
i dont think blizzard would take that kind of risk
wind portal
they had the opportunity to make one during OW1
It's kinda pointless now since they already have PvE on the way
League was lacking in PvE content for a long time after 2019 or so, so Arcane was a good choice.
wind portal
both wild rift and TFT were still pvp oriented
wild rift essentially just being mobile league
wind portal
I think Ruined King was already in development long before Arcane
I think since Viego's release they were working on it
upbeat violet
yeah
arcane was in the work for a while though
and they launched a new one
with the purple guy
wind portal
Sylas?
versed coral
There is an alternate universe where Overwatch is drip feeding lore through hero music videos. That would unironically be so fun
fossil chasm
hasty walrus
So no hero missions means a lot of heroes won't get their stories told right
rare trail
what would hero missions have entailed?
hasty walrus
It'll just be the main campaign AKA fighting null sector
That's really sad, cause now Sigma will never be released
He will remain Talon's captive forever
Slowly losing himself
...unless freeing sigma is part of the main campaign but I doubt it
rare trail
im still confused on what hero missions were
peak escarp
hero missions were the QP of PvE - randomized missions with different objectives
no story at all
hasty walrus
I was under the impression they were like (and forgive me for this comparison) story quests from Genshin Impact
A mission dedicated to a specific hero that lets you play as that hero
Oh! Okay good!
peak escarp
no
hasty walrus
Lmao
peak escarp
we might get something like that in the story campaign, after the first arc
hasty walrus
There is hope for Siebren yet
rare trail
siebren?
hasty walrus
Sigma
peak escarp
Siebren de Kuiper
rare trail
ohh
hasty walrus
His story is so sadddd
I want it to have a happy ending
He can retire or work with overwatch or something
hasty walrus
He's slowly losing himself
His mind is fractured and he can't pick up the pieces with Talon around
Sombra is literally the only person in the world who looks out for him nowadays
Science is a cozy distraction, something to focus him and ensure he doesn't go fully insane
But one day Siebren De Kuiper will be lost
rare trail
"In their custody, De Kuiper slowly gained control of his powers. Now, gravity moved according to his will, and he was closer than ever to achieving his life's goal. But the same experiment that had opened his mind had also fractured it, and he struggled to keep the pieces together." this makes me think hes been getting better
hasty walrus
Such as dissociative identity, memory loss, trouble with perception of time, high instability, etc
He is absolutely getting worse under Talon's control, albeit very slowly
rare trail
Such as dissociative identity, memory loss, trouble with perception of time, hig...
sigma doesnt have multiple personalities
hasty walrus
Basically his only hope for rehabilitation is being freed by Overwatch
rare trail
and theres nothing showing talon gave him those disorders it was probably the experiment
hasty walrus
sigma doesnt have multiple personalities
He does kinda
At the very least he has three distinct emotional states similar to bipolar
rare trail
bipolar isnt did and he doesnt have three distinct emotional states
hasty walrus
I do hesitate to use disability names
But in terms of symptoms there is stuff there
rare trail
in his origin he went through major trauma and had mood swings
hasty walrus
The first is science sigma who's usually quite polite
Then there's captive sigma who is scared and panicked
And then there's violence sigma who is... im sure you can guess
rare trail
like sigma is pretty messed up but nothing shows talon caused it
hasty walrus
The first is science sigma who's usually quite polite
Then there's captive sigma...
You can actually clearly identify these states ingame
rare trail
ingame stuff shouldnt be taken as canon
in his origin he just went through major trauma and had mood swings
hasty walrus
In most prematch interactions for instance, Sigma is being polite and science-y
rare trail
being scared and angry is pretty common when you just went through trauma
hasty walrus
When absorbing an ability with kinetic grasp he is panicked
And when ulting he is violence
It is at the very least three distinct emotional states he shifts between
peak escarp
he has brain damage, and he isn't always present
rare trail
being scared when you're being shot at is a normal thing to do
hasty walrus
So why then is he so calm when deploying the barrier
rare trail
because hes safe behind it and regardless its not canon
hasty walrus
It's not tied to specific outside circumstances
It's his mind shifting between fractured states
rare trail
you're tying it to outside circumstances like him grasping or putting up a barrier or ulting
rare trail
also none of this is canon what he acts like in game based off of things he is doing in game isnt lore
rare trail
its normal to be angry and scared after major trauma
hasty walrus
Of course it is!
But his extended hero description and general erratic behaviours lead me to believe he exists in fractured states
hasty walrus
I agree
rare trail
like hes maybe bipolar but doesnt have did
peak escarp
he's just unpredictable
hasty walrus
Multiple personalities is taking it a bit too far
Sigma is scared, confused and traumatised at being a prisoner, when he is lucid enough to realise that he is indeed a prisoner
Usually this leads to the state of violence taking over
And that is the state Talon uses for their own ends
And then of course we have innocent and polite scientist sigma, which is his usual undisturbed manner after the accident
rare trail
wdym talon uses the violent state
hes never been a soldier for them or been in combat
hasty walrus
He absolutely has
hasty walrus
Its literally in his hero description
Talon manipulates him and his fractured mind for their own ends
peak escarp
as far as we know Talon just keeps him in a lab and lies to him about why he's there
there's no evidence that he's sent on field missions
rare trail
"Now, he struggles to maintain his connection to reality, unaware that Talon is manipulating him to their own ends."
they never talk about using him for combat in code of violence
hasty walrus
I suppose there's never been any true mention that he's been on field missions
rare trail
"planning to use his brilliance and research to further their plans."
notice how they dont mention his combat power
because thats not why they want him
hasty walrus
Fair enough
I shall nevertheless headcanon that his violent state is used as a tool of destruction while in his Talon suit skin
hasty walrus
Let's stop talking about sigma and start talking about sigma
Galactic Emperor Sigma from Starwatch is hundreds of years old
What's up with that
peak escarp
space magic
upbeat violet
evil yoda
ivory garnet
enhanced sci-fi logicš¤·āāļø
upbeat violet
do you guys think weāll get a sigma mission
ivory garnet
not likely
hasty walrus
I wish he'd get a cinematic
That's all I want
Idm if he gets nothing else
The OW animated shorts are so peak and sigma's lore is so peak, I need it
ivory garnet
dont really know what peak youāre talking about since he isnt expanded on at all
hasty walrus
His origin story is so amazing
It's literally the only canon material we have on him
And it's easily the best of ANY hero
ivory garnet
š¤·āāļø
distant dome
what is sigmas story
ivory garnet
!!loreheroes Sigma
twilit nacelleBOT
To learn more, please visit https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/Sigma#story
twilit nacelleBOT
To learn more, please visit https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/sigma#story
ivory garnet
there
ivory garnet
all he has is his origin story, desc, and a minor part in Code of Violence short story
distant dome
is that a comic?
ivory garnet
look in pins
youāll see all the comics
and short stories
also on overwatch website
all free to read
besides their Novels;
Deadlock Rebels
Sojournās Novel (I think?)
Hero of Numbani
!!shortstories
not a command D:
cunning gulch
ivory garnet
Reaperās short story, Code of Violence
ivory garnet
more like a grandchild caring for their grandparent
austere agate
I feel like kiriko and dva have similar personalities
like self-confident āiām better than youā attitude
but everyone hates kiriko and loves dva
iron brook
but everyone hates kiriko and loves dva
Cause D.Va has irony to that better than you attitude. Kiriko believes it and thats all her character is.
rare trail
they removed hero missions
people seem to think they would've contained lore but i lore warlord said they wouldntve
shadow marsh
Season 6's not far
wet cradle
What's up with everyone freaking out Pve
it's honestly a huge dissapointment to see this news, ow2 was supposed to have the amazing cool pve system that they showcased and actually tried in blizzcon
i have no clue how people defend this
but then it got postponed
not jus that they cancelled what actually made it cool in the first place
i dont mind postponing, its like the rockstar way of taking time but delivering something huge
but as far as I know they cancelled what made the concept incredible in the first place
I hope they work out something better or equivalent. we'll see
dapper sparrow
Yep it was one of the few things I was excited for in the future, I wanted to see new lore and cut scenes
wet cradle
but what makes me worried is something like seasonal missions, where you get 1 part per season, its like watching a show 1 episode every 3 months
imagine playing through the animated shorts from different perspectives of each character with friends, I think that would be very cool (To be clear I dont want the actual animations to be playable, I iust mean something similar)
again, I dont mind the "rockstar effect" postpone something as much as you want as long as you deliver the absolute best image of it
but that is not how it looks to be sadly
shadow marsh
On the bright side PvE is still coming this year, personally that's enough for me and it's a relief they're not gonna postpone it for another year. It's just a headache seeing the majority of people have poor comprehension of watching the devchat and spreading misinformation about PvE being cancelled when it's literally confirmed for season 6. Honestly I agree with your statement of they're delivering something better for it and I'm gonna eat all that up
wet cradle
it won't be 1 mission per season
whatever, 1 or 2 missions per season that just doesnt sound fun or enticing, just a cheap way that was come up by execs to keep people consistently coming back
peak escarp
we'll have to wait and see
shadow marsh
On the bright side PvE is still coming this year, personally that's enough for m...
In short they all overreacted.
wet cradle
I hope we wait and get something phenomenal, that's what we all want lets be real here
wet cradle
https://youtu.be/CNeEhl4-uIY
and this is why my hopes are completely destroyed right now
peak escarp
boo hoo
just like everyone else, Flats ignores the roadmap and focuses on the clickbait
upper wharf
wet cradle
boo hoo
and this is why the gaming community in general not just in ow is in shambles right now because people have 0 understanding of standards because they're either too young to know what it was like or they have 0 sense of skepticism and take everything said to heart
Battlefield went through this and now it's completely dead as an example
Blizzard is doing the same thing of promise big and deliver a news letter with fancy wording that people just believe without thinking what so ever and a dumbed down piece of content to maximize profits in the long run
I can't believe how low people's standards have gotten
serene gazelle
Rewatching the overwatch ā2ā gameplay trailer is a bit depressing now
wet cradle
blizzard was one of the most amazing game devs
unique ideas, playability, styles
the story they tell without actually telling it directly is just genius.
wet cradle
just like everyone else, Flats ignores the roadmap and focuses on the clickbait
yet here we are people are calling very long time content creators that love the game and have 10x the experience you have on it "clickbait focusing"
you're fucking mad mate
serene gazelle
Ignoring the roadmap makes sense considering the years long pve weāve been waiting for just got dumped
wet cradle
That roadmap is a coverup, uust something to throw at you because they failed to deliver even thought they're making record profits right now
serene gazelle
PvE was pretty much the only thing that justified calling it overwatch ā2ā
A new gamemode, handful of heroes and a better engine isnāt a sequel itās an expansion
wet cradle
its honestly a huge slap in the face but people believe the bullshit coverup lies and fancy wording
0 standards
wet cradle
A new gamemode, handful of heroes and a better engine isnāt a sequel itās an exp...
just balance changes and made it f2p
most importantly the bp and shop
I just realized I didnt even @ my replies @peak escarp
if you're still interested
peak escarp
what
wet cradle
im not saying we arent
did you even read anything
i said everything I wanted to say
peak escarp
all I read was complaining
wet cradle
honestly with that sentence you just justified everything I said about how the community is these days
like brick walls
anyways have a good one mate
wet cradle
you havent read anything, My point wasnt even about PvE it self
peak escarp
neither was my point
leaden reef
It's just hard to be optimistic with blizzard haha
wet cradle
idk why I keep trying
wet cradle
neither was my point
?
thats literally what you just said
you just posted the roadmap
you clearly came in here with 0 context of the previous convo
serene gazelle
It's just hard to be optimistic with blizzard haha
I was foolish to keep my hopes up with PvE, thereās really nothing left to look forward to that has blizzards name on it
peak escarp
I'm just tired of hearing the same thing all day
I meant this
peak escarp
you clearly came in here with 0 context of the previous convo
that is correct
I was not paying attention to this convo and was just checking to see why I got pinged
wet cradle
and this is why the gaming community in general not just in ow is in shambles ri...
i replied to your message here
peak escarp
okay
shadow marsh
The amount of videos I've seen saying PvE is cancelled just now is insane
eager sparrow
peak escarp
why
surreal leaf
?? Why
šš
Blizzard Entertainment
game developers when they have to develop the game š¤Æš¤Æš¤Æ
nimble cipher
Canāt wait to discuss the expanded lore in the PvE mode
worthy rose
Welp it was barely fun while it lasted, canāt believe overwatch flopped this hard
wheat orbit
i feel sorry for yall lore finatics, yall really got the rug pulled out from under yall because this company is a bunch of greedy pigs.
dire orbit
its not even just lore finatics
clearly they spent atleast some time working on this so fuckin overwatch 1 plays as a whole got fucked
players
peak escarp
no
summer tulip
Why?
peak escarp
i feel sorry for yall lore finatics, yall really got the rug pulled out from und...
we're still getting lore
summer tulip
Of course no
dire orbit
who the fuck shot lucios brain out
molten shore
The beta for pve had him die i think
summer tulip
who the fuck shot lucios brain out
Definitely vishkar
peak escarp
that was a placeholder with an intentional cliffhanger for the demo
Lucio will be fine
molten shore
Kinda off topic but I think raimbow six currently has it better lore wise rn
peak escarp
and?
molten shore
Nothing much just saying kinda
peak escarp
this channel is for Overwatch lore
molten shore
Is overwatch going through like a reactivation rn
peak escarp
not R6
molten shore
Im very comfused
worthy rose
They literally had one job
peak escarp
who?
worthy rose
Overwatch
worthy rose
Just like halo infinite a bunch of promises that never came
peak escarp
they couldn't make hero missions AND maintain the game AND keep making PvP content
worthy rose
The pvp side of the game is literally just patch notes and hero changes
They literally stopped development on overwatch 1 for overwatch 2
peak escarp
and new heroes and new maps and new game modes and new battlepasses and new events
worthy rose
They should have known it wasnāt going to work. Locking what used to free behind a paywall is the greatest cuck of all time
wheat orbit
They had two different teams, stop trying to defend this pathetic attempt of a money grab
worthy rose
No one is going to pay $20 for 5 year old skin that used to be free
peak escarp
what money grab? the game is free to play
you don't have to buy skins
anyway, this is getting off topic
worthy rose
you don't have to buy skins
We canāt unlock them either thats the problem
wheat orbit
They realized they couldnt make money off of a one time purchase so they made it f2p and charge ridiculous amounts of money for skins and a freakin battle pass
worthy rose
The story revamp apparently isnāt free either
wheat orbit
Pve was the reason they made ow2 in the first place
peak escarp
they haven't said whether it will cost anything or not
they have only said that it will be released as part of the seasonal content
worthy rose
Ive heard from multiple people its tied to the battle pass but unsure if its true
austere agate
source: trust me bro
peak escarp
don't trust anything unless it comes from an official source
worthy rose
Guess weāll wait and see but seeing as how they love to make us wait im not gonna be surprised if it doesnāt even come out
heady mural
They literally stopped development on overwatch 1 for overwatch 2
For 3 years.
Thatās the entire time Iāve been an adult. I had such high hopes for this.
worthy rose
Same man
peak escarp
I still have high hopes for the story mode
ionic hamlet
I still have high hopes for the story mode
Unfortunately, if you are expecting more than a occasional archive mission under a different category title you are probably going to be disappointed, let's be honest here. They wouldn't dance around admitting even one detail about the pve that WILL still exist if they thought it was going to sound good lol
peak escarp
why do people keep saying "archive mission" like that's a bad thing?
I LOVED the Archives missions
I played them nonstop when they're available
ionic hamlet
So did I, but simple extrapolation of their previous behaviors says it will come in small bites, and not often
They overpromise and underdeliver
peak escarp
on the stream they said it would be more frequent
maybe I'm naive for still believing them, but š¤·āāļø
radiant plank
It seems there will be a story update every season, which is good
They haven't said how much would be in each update tho
ionic hamlet
Eehehhehe, why the fuck would you believe them? They admitted they knew they would have to scrap the pve plans before they released ow2...
wind portal
this is still entirely on blizzard either way, they made a big promise and failed to deliver what they were expected to do
magic epoch
It seems there will be a story update every season, which is good
Waiting 3 months between every short episode
radiant plank
Eehehhehe, why the fuck would you believe them? They admitted they knew they wou...
Did they? From what I heard they came to the decision in December at the earliest
tall sleet
wow i heard that pve is scrapped.. so disappointing thats literally all i wanted.
ionic hamlet
I will get you the exact quote, it is damning, one moment
shadow marsh
It'll come by August, PvE is still coming and it was never said to be cancelled.
tall sleet
did they say they r gonna do like .. anything for PVE or wat bc the thread that i saw was titled "PVE scrapped"
ionic hamlet
"As we were running up to launching Overwatch 2, we realized that we could not build that other game."
Direct quote from the video
Word for word
wind portal
It'll come by August, PvE is still coming and it was never said to be cancelled.
they cancelled basically everything people were looking forward too, which is effectively the same thing
peak escarp
did they say they r gonna do like .. anything for PVE or wat bc the thread that ...
they're still doing Story missions
magic epoch
It'll come by August, PvE is still coming and it was never said to be cancelled.
They removed all replayability and everything unique with it and itāll be tied to battle pass in some way and that probably means youāll have to buy battle pass
wind portal
PvE might not have been effectively cancelled but what they did is basically like stripping a tree of it's bark
only a shamble of it's former self
peak escarp
they have not said whether it will be tied to the battle pass
don't spread misinformation
tall sleet
someone said hero stories are scrapped too
magic epoch
they have not said whether it will be tied to the battle pass
They said it would be tied to the battle pass
peak escarp
source?
tall sleet
man this is such bs like why does overwatch dev team drop the ball all the time
wind portal
source: I made it the fuck up
ionic hamlet
someone said hero stories are scrapped too
Correct, stated directly by aaron
peak escarp
I did watch the livestream
they didn't say it would be part of the battlepass
they said it would be tied to seasons
radiant plank
^
ionic hamlet
They are going to have speedrun trials or something, but not the original hero mission idea.
peak escarp
which isn't the same thing
magic epoch
they didn't say it would be part of the battlepass
Tied to the battle pass, not part of
magic epoch
they said it would be tied to seasons
Well with overwatch the only thing releasing every season is the battle pass anywaysš
peak escarp
events aren't in the battlepass
magic epoch
they didn't mention the PvE being tied to the battle pass
You really believe we will get it for free?
wind portal
Well with overwatch the only thing releasing every season is the battle pass an...
you need to understand the key wording: tied to seasons is NOT tied to the battlepass
magic epoch
events aren't in the battlepass
This is supposed to be a lot bigger then a lame event
peak escarp
You really believe we will get it for free?
until there's proof otherwise, yes
ionic hamlet
until there's proof otherwise, yes
Give me some of that! Whatever it is you are smoking I want it
tall sleet
can someone do a straight up tldr of the live and exactly what they said about pve otherwise im expecting for the worst
radiant plank
can someone do a straight up tldr of the live and exactly what they said about p...
Only getting Story Missions
No Skill trees
ionic hamlet
They canned it besides renamed archives, basically.
radiant plank
No Hero Missions
ionic hamlet
scrapped
wind portal
They canned it besides renamed archives, basically.
'renamed archives' you're still holding onto that point?
magic epoch
Thereās no progression, not meant to be replayed, will probably be season locked
ionic hamlet
'renamed archives' you're still holding onto that point?
??
wind portal
It'll be entirely new missions not closely related to the archives
peak escarp
can someone do a straight up tldr of the live and exactly what they said about p...
the original plan for the PvE was two parts: Story Missions, which would have restricted heroes and move the plot forward, and Hero missions, which had talent trees and you could choose any hero to level up
the Hero missions and the talent trees have been scrapped
the Story Missions will start in season 6, with new missions being added seasonally
magic epoch
As long as itās free
peak escarp
unknown
pale imp
no
magic epoch
Probably tied to the theme of the season
ionic hamlet
They have avoided saying directly whether they come from the BP, we don't know.
shadow marsh
they cancelled basically everything people were looking forward too, which is ef...
I believe the Skill tree and Hero missions would be recycled to future game events, Either way the main part of PvE in ow2 was lore and I hope it would still be fun regardless what was removed.
magic epoch
You really think blizzard would release pve for free? Either weāre paying 40 bucks straight up or itās gonna be a part of the battle pass
magic epoch
which is the important part
Fun gameplay, progression and replayability where large parts of the pve too
peak escarp
You really think blizzard would release pve for free? Either weāre paying 40 buc...
how many new game modes have you paid for?
magic epoch
how many new game modes have you paid for?
Itās not a new game mode
tall sleet
i want the replayability lol
magic epoch
Itās literally what the ow2 is all about
shadow marsh
In... how many months?
Expectedly to be either June or July
magic epoch
Itās supposed to be the meat of overwatch 2
peak escarp
if they can give us Push and Flashpoint for free, they can give us Story Missions for free
Flashpoint is the new game mode coming in season 6
season 6 will start in August
magic epoch
if they can give us Push and Flashpoint for free, they can give us Story Mission...
I refuse to believe someone could be this naive
shadow marsh
It's the release of Cinematic
peak escarp
not naive
tall sleet
there is no way they're giving it to us for free esp now that they've spent all this money to scrap a large portion of it
pale imp
no it's a mode with 2 new maps released for it
magic epoch
Pve is supposed to be a whole new game, they will make us pay in one way or another
shadow marsh
The new sojourn cinematic which will be released in season 5(June)
magic epoch
There isnāt even a new map for season 5
wind portal
I refuse to believe someone could be this naive
I refuse to believe you think they'd be stupid enough to make something they promised us for years now paid, at this point they'd be killing the game not including it for free at this point
peak escarp
We've never released a new game mode as a seasonal update ever in Overwatch. It has two new maps coming out with Flashpoint.
magic epoch
The only exiting thing is them bringing back a feature they removed
peak escarp
it's a game mode
pale imp
idk season 6 might have one
peak escarp
Pve is supposed to be a whole new game, they will make us pay in one way or anot...
it was supposed to be a whole new game, but they just cancelled half of it
ionic hamlet
Well, we've drifted from lore, but the best guess I heard for flashpoint is like control but the whole map is open and points open 1 after another. Someone said there's a halo gamemode like that
magic epoch
I refuse to believe you think they'd be stupid enough to make something they pro...
Bro what the pve was always gonna cost
wind portal
Bro what the pve was always gonna cost
source?
magic epoch
it *was* supposed to be a whole new game, but they just cancelled half of it
Canceled 3/4s more like
peak escarp
the PvE never had an official price tag
people just assumed it would be a paid product
ionic hamlet
Not an official one, but I recall it being implied that since ow2 update was free instead of paid the pve would be paid
wind portal
If you're not going to back up your claim when it comes to PvE I'd rather not hear personal bias
peak escarp
one of the big things coming this year is the Lore Codex
we'll finally have a place to read the lore in the game
magic epoch
source?
You think any company would work on smt for 3+ years and then drop it for free?
ionic hamlet
Ah, the lore codex... Will it mention Dva's pro SC2 career that got retconned so hard they tried to pretend they never said it?
pale imp
not everyone wants to go to a ow discord, this server can be wack bro
peak escarp
You think any company would work on smt for 3+ years and then drop it for free?
we got OW2 PvP for free
wind portal
You think any company would work on smt for 3+ years and then drop it for free?
You think Blizzard would be so stupid to kill their game by making PvE paid content?, making it paid ruins the aspect of what they were going to
tall sleet
blizzard already killedoverwatch 1 yrs ago idk why some of yall r simping for them so hard
magic epoch
we got OW2 PvP for free
Yeah bc they switched to battle pass and overpriced skins, the game wouldnāt work as pay to play in 2022
ionic hamlet
You think Blizzard would be so stupid to kill their game by making PvE paid cont...
I see what you are saying but... They do seem that dumb, tbh
magic epoch
You think Blizzard would be so stupid to kill their game by making PvE paid cont...
Ofc itās gonna be paid, nothing is free mguy
wind portal
I'm not talking 'any company' I'm talking Blizzard, cause at this point they can't afford to make this game paid without killing off any interest in general
peak escarp
Yeah bc they switched to battle pass and overpriced skins, the game wouldnāt wor...
and why can't the battlepass and overpriced skins pay for the PvE too?
wind portal
^
ionic hamlet
I hope they do pay for the PvE, but I wouldn't bet on blizz anymore
wind portal
Why aren't we talking about the $20 reskins
peak escarp
I don't expect the Story Missions to be paid content, but if it is I won't be surprised (just disappointed)
wind portal
It provides blizzard enough income to where they don't need to worry about making the PvE paid
magic epoch
and why can't the battlepass and overpriced skins pay for the PvE too?
This is not a small family business who just wants to make enough, the more money the better no matter if it could be paid off
wind portal
imo if they make the story missions paid I'd kill any interest for me to try them
peak escarp
they also don't want to alienate their community by charging for core gameplay on a free to play game
ionic hamlet
I think if they make it like 3-mission arcs or something actually fun... we will have to pay. Like archives but present-day = no pay. That's my guess
magic epoch
they also don't want to alienate their community by charging for core gameplay o...
Yeah no other games have ever done that
wind portal
now IF they actually didn't scrap anything and made PvE paid, I would be fine but the way they scrapped shit for no reason means they're either forced to make PvE free or ruin any chances of OW2 surviving the next year or two
pale imp
destiny 2 charges for story
wind portal
Destiny 2 gets a pass since the story is worth paying for
I'd rather not pay for a frankly less interesting story in OW2 not saying it's bad but I vastly prefer D2's story
ionic hamlet
Yeah, blizz doesn't seem too self-aware these days...
magic epoch
Iād pay 60 bucks for a proper 20+ hour campaign with a full progression system, it couldāve been so co
peak escarp
idk I was guessing
wind portal
because Blizzard isn't a company that can afford to kill their game
pale imp
Destiny 2 gets a pass since the story is worth paying for
fair, also destiny 2 has pve modes that are ftp like vanguard and eternity
wind portal
they're already losing money on world of warcraft and their other ips
magic epoch
because Blizzard isn't a company that can afford to kill their game
They are still worth billions, to be honest them loosing a small amount of players bc of pve being paid isnāt gonna hurt them
You know that most people will buy it anyways
wind portal
They are still worth billions, to be honest them loosing a small amount of playe...
but they're also losing money on these lawsuits which while the lawsuits themselves arne't too important to the topic, it somewhat is when we are talking about money
but Blizzard has shot themselves in the foot and too be quite frank either way they do it is a lose lose situation
magic epoch
They shouldāve just waited 2 more years to release a proper pve game
peak escarp
2 more years of people saying "Where's the rest of the sequel?"
wind portal
or take lessons from Riot and make smaller spin-off games while we wait on the big stuff
magic epoch
2 more years of people saying "Where's the rest of the sequel?"
They could still keep their fans in the loop
peak escarp
according to a former dev, Kotick would assign them projects just to cancel them after a few weeks
lots of wasted time/money
peak escarp
it's not the dev's fault
they're all very unhappy about their work being tossed out
pale imp
stupid higher ups ruining everything smh
magic epoch
It was probably the managers fault
wind portal
Honestly as soon as Kotick is removed it'll be a lot better depending on the new CEO we may or may not get
wind portal
It was probably the managers fault
blizzard's dev team is very talented, they're just hurdled by like a thousand different things
pale imp
agreed, you can revive the game
peak escarp
probably one of the worst managed companies in history
wind portal
excluding EA?
ionic hamlet
Honestly as soon as Kotick is removed it'll be a lot better *depending on the ne...
ahahahhaha omg this is priceless. That's not real. The CEOs get paid mega money to not give a fuck about anything but the shareholders.
peak escarp
anyway, we've gotten very off topic
magic epoch
Also how come a road hog and sombra rework takes like 9+ months to make
wind portal
funniest thing I've read all night
wind portal
Also how come a road hog and sombra rework takes like 9+ months to make
#overwatch would probably be your place to talk about reworks
magic epoch
LOCK IN YOUR PREDICTIONS NOW
peak escarp
I'm trying to guide the conversation back to lore, don't make me pull the mod card
I look forward to having a proper lore source, and not having to rely on fan-made databases
and maybe they can iron out some wrinkles while they're at it
ionic hamlet
I will only be happy with the lore codex if they manage enough humility and humor to mention DVA SC2 careeer, even if it is to say it was a meme in-world or something. j/k a lore codex would be nice
I can't even remember how lumerico and talon are connected
It's been so long
peak escarp
Vishkar agent Sanjay Korpal was doing under the table dealings with Lumerico's CEO Guillermo Portero
their emails were exposed during the Sombra ARG
ionic hamlet
Wait, isn't sanjay the ceo or smth?
wait nvm
Yeah, that sounds right. MAn, that ARG was fun at the time
Not so much the payoff, but the time we spent poring over every detail of the ARG itself
Fond memories
ionic hamlet
Hehe, maybe a spy? Like a minister-without-portfolio type.
round sandal
still cant believe that they arent doing the story mode, 5 years dude
peak escarp
they are doing the story mode
that's the only part of PvE they're still doing
stupid clickbait articles confusing people
ionic hamlet
I'm not sure that an unknown number of missions every ??? (1-who knows) seasons that maybe you can't even go back to old ones is "doing the story mode"
slate vector
Pve!!
peak escarp
they are still doing the story missions, with a campaign that spans between seasons
ionic hamlet
Yeah, but like ow2 itself... A name isn't the thing, friend.
peak escarp
it still matches the description of the Story Missions we were given 4 years ago
ionic hamlet
And they might not even deliver even now, given their track record that WOULD BE EXPECTED TO HAPPEN rofl
I'll believe the good news when it hits my own eyeballs.
peak escarp
has anything shown in a roadmap not been delivered on?
the amount of pessimism here is tiring
ionic hamlet
An example of the delivery not matching the hype would be battle for olympus.
tall sleet
nobody is asking u to defend blizzard w ur life here, we can all be disappointed when blizzard isnt delivering stuff we've been teased and promised for a year
peak escarp
I'm not talking about hype
worthy rose
Anything weāve ever seen in a roadmap has been delivered
ionic hamlet
EZ money says they will be like starwatch: a way to sell skins, free for all, but lacking in depth
peak escarp
and tbh just making conversation because I have nothing else to do
pale imp
damn it be like that
worthy rose
EZ money says they will be like starwatch: a way to sell skins, free for all, bu...
Starwatch is primarily PvP, the story missions would not involve that
ionic hamlet
Starwatch is primarily PvP, the story missions would not involve that
Where u heard?
peak escarp
trust me, I'm beyond disappointed by today's news
worthy rose
Where u heard?
Itās the whole point of PvE
ionic hamlet
I guess you're right.
peak escarp
I just don't want to put any effort into dwelling on that because it's exhausting
so I choose to look on the bright side
ionic hamlet
I just can't help feeling like everything is going to be less than it looks on paper. That's how blizz hurt me š¢
ionic hamlet
So.... take everything they said for a possible lie and I won't be disappointed. I'm not sure that's as comforting as you think lol
limpid agate
Here is what we know we are getting for sure:
- Season 5 content on Roadmap
- Season 6 content on Roadmap
- Things that provide revenue (Heroes every other season, skins and BPs)
worthy rose
If you donāt set any expectations, you canāt be disappointed
limpid agate
Anything else, don't bother setting expectations.
Season 7 on is a mystery beyond a tank hero and event reruns
And balance changes
austere agate
I already know
peak escarp
probably Genji
austere agate
^
limpid agate
Its probably genji
peak escarp
that's Tracer
limpid agate
Tracer is a lesbian, but not married.
austere agate
what comic are u reading
peak escarp
she has a girlfriend
ionic hamlet
Sheās lesbian and has a wife? In the comics?
I think that is tracer, but I didn't think they were married.
grave nymph
I stg ive seen Angela with a woman in a married context
grave nymph
they should have a Wedding themed season
Dress/suit skins would go hard asl
austere agate
I feel like thatās be better as an event then a whole season
grave nymph
Rein/ana would be hard to design because rein does not really fit a suit
ionic hamlet
Dressed-up Ram ā¤ļø
worthy rose
Ramattra in a tuxedo would go hard
grave nymph
Ramattra in a tuxedo would go hard
Real! Zen in a 3 piece suit would also slap
peak escarp
Reinhardt as the limo, black shiny armor complete with cans and "Just Married" banner on his back
grave nymph
Zarya would rock a suit too tbh
grave nymph
Reinhardt as the limo, black shiny armor complete with cans and "Just Married" b...
I take it back thatās adorable
Reaper has to have a fluffy pink dress
I would kill for a metallic dress for brig too. Or a tuxedo āsuitā of Armor
peak escarp
fingers crossed that we get the Symmetra short story next week with the skin challenge
I would very much like to be right about that
tribal turret
fleet thistle
the new roadmap in season 7+ says "fan favourite mode returns"
im not making any predictions but 2CP??
limpid agate
It can be anything from 2CP to Uprising
fleet thistle
like storm uprising?
lusty hawk
If PVE is cancelled doesn't that mark the end for any more overwatch lore?
Besides the cinematics
wet cradle
If PVE is cancelled doesn't that mark the end for any more overwatch lore?
pve it self is not cancelled, but we're getting an insanely watered down version of it
lusty hawk
:(
I didn't play overwatch 1 but I feel bad for those who did
Playing the dead game in hopes that their wait wasn't for nothing with the huge pvp coming
tawny narwhal
I didn't play overwatch 1 but I feel bad for those who did
don't feel bad, you'll never know the pain of fighting pirate ship in comp or double shield
gold was smth else in ow1
keen summit
If PVE is cancelled doesn't that mark the end for any more overwatch lore?
the story mode is still coming + pve wasnt the only lore, novels, cinematics, origin stories, comics etc all add to lore
lusty hawk
the story mode is still coming + pve wasnt the only lore, novels, cinematics, or...
Well ig but unless they make more there's not really something that keeps it going
I feel like it was all a lie
Like they weren't actually working on pve in ow1
It was just an excuse for the lack of updates
idle finch
no they definitely were, unfortunately blizzard is just shit
So they probably kept requesting then scrapping stuff like they always do
upbeat violet
they were working on pve
but unfortunately it doesnāt fall in the hands of the employees wether itās actually put in the game
ivory garnet
Well ig but unless they make more there's not really something that keeps it goi...
we already know theres more short stories, comics, and stuff otw lol
strange edge
Pve was literally the reason why we shut down the first game and why blizz rushed the release of ow2
keen summit
they rushed it cuz there wasnt any content
cyan dove
did anyone here getting trouble login the game rn ?
sharp trench
shitbrain blizzard
junior schooner
peak escarp
if I wanted to go to a channel filled with misinformation and complaining, I'd go to #overwatch