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Is lucheng the company that made lunar colony?
Why does reaper mention them
I think he’s got like 2 quotes even
because they're a well known public company that probably has dirt on them
I mean experimenting on animal is quite controversial, especially experiments they were doing
Did they continue their work after the incident on lunar colony or shut down?
they are still active
Didn’t people cancel Moira for experimenting on animals tho???
we don't know the details of Moira's work - she did work on animals, but there were probably other things that made her unethical
other scientists couldn't reproduce her results, which means she either falsified the results or lied about the methods
Was there any more implication in the star watch thing
Also are bap and lifeweaver a thing
they flirt
they havent met in lore yet though
Are they ever gonna make more cinematic
yes
a sojourn one is in the works
Is there any way to find out if one is in the works
But somehow lucheng does the same thing and they’re not being called unethical?
I feel like it’s even worse since people died because of their experiments right?
Moira saved Reyes form dying by turning him into reaper right
hanzo short story might expand on that relationship
Hanzo Story will probably include kiriko since genji is with overwatch now
And in game voice lines implied a bit that Hanzo might help take down hashimotos
I don’t think there’s any date known yet
How do we know it’s coming then
what do you guys think about a vs hashimoto clan mission
with genji, hanzo and kiriko
How do we know a hanzo short is coming
A lot of people said it is
I think it was said in some interview maybe
So a comic?
no
there's a collection of 8 short stories coming out next year, one of them is Hanzo defending Tokyo from Null Sector
another is Symmetra going to find Lifeweaver
Oh so not hashimotos
@peak escarp by next year do you mean during 2024, and by short stories do u mean the ones like ‘dragons’ or the ones with the choppier animation style
the original release date was later this year, but the Amazon listing changed to next year
Is it comics or YouTube animations?
I think that date is a placeholder
Are my messages going through
neither, it's short stories
Example?
like Code of Violence
Honestly
I think it could be interesting
If junkerqueen and junkrat
Were siblings
So they are actual books?
they arent
I’m saying that could be cool
we've seen junkerqueens whole family
YEAH@well
How long are the books
Retcons
Like how many pages
idk the exact page length but like 300ish
Each?
yea
And how many are in the package
what package?
i dont know what package you're talking about
Oh
i assume hanzo is with kiriko sym with lifeweaver and ana and jack with soj maybe
i wonder who the informant is
probably someone in blackwatch
maybe genji or cass but that seems kinda unlikely
it wouldn't be Sojourn
she's rejoining Overwatch in the story missions
the informant is probably a new hero
is it a tank or support next?
the other two stories listed there feature new heroes
support
ok so yea probably a ex overwatch agent support then
is there anyone who fits that description that we know of?
whos mirembe?
that would make sense
it could just be a new character like lifeweaver but i hope its someone like mirembe
id honestly love more insight into auroras process of ascending
or something of the such
I think she transcended not ascended
whats the difference between transcending and ascending?
Because I think Overwatch is definitely sci-fi and magical
most of zens stuff isnt canon
he says in voicelines smth about how magic is just science people dont understand
Zen still has some form of healing that he gets from the Iris
Mercy: I refuse to believe that your healing is magical.
Zenyatta: What seems like magic is sometimes science we don't yet understand.
Mercy: Exactly! I must learn how it works!
Speaking of mercy
Do you guys think she helped Moira with one of her subjects before
No
yeah i dont think she helped moira
“I’d rather wait a century for progress than cause the harm you have!”
Sombra: Bet you omnics are great gamblers.
Zenyatta: Why do you believe so?
Sombra: Built-in poker faces.
Zenyatta: True. It also makes us great teachers, for we can easily hide our disappointment.
i like zens voicelines
when do you guys think we’ll get more on sigma
Am I the only one who wants another evil support in the game?
Moira is not enough for me
Maybe some omnic from null sector
another omnic support means we could do a full robot team
Ramattra, Orisa, echo, bastion,and zen. We could do a messed up team
I mean a team with role queue
Apparently another support will be also “cute” afaik
I haven't been on Overwatch in a minute, do the Starwatch AU skins got any custom voicelines or anythin?
Nope, I don’t think any of them does
Even sigma mythic
They did add a few with the patch
sigma skin has a special ult voiceline and many of them have skin specific spawn lines
Oh, good
They needed them
The sigma skin has loads of new voice lines
The winston one might have some, his hero select line is different
But yeah Sigma got loads, almost any voice input has an alternate line or two for his emperor skin
Like, even a custom "hello" which is crazy
yeah they do
they all have different voicelines
not ult voicelines
just interactions
and utility/kill voicelines
!!shitposting
If Ramattra finds out Talon was responsible for Mondatta's death would he kill Maximilien?
I think He knows and He doesnt care
He is the one who coordinated it lol
Is it true Widowmaker wasn't instructed by Talon to kill Mondatta? I hadn't seen it here that was pointed out, heard that she killed him on her own for the sake of "causing" war for Doom's ideology.
I have no idea
we don't know who ordered it
My favorite
Torbjörn: Who developed those orbs of yours?
Zenyatta: Ask not who their maker is, but what they mean.
Torbjörn: You don't know, do you?
Zenyatta: I embrace the unknown.
alot do
sigma now has a few yea
There’s never been anything given about who ordered her if any
But considering how she was brainwashed into being a loyal assassin for Talon and she is extracted by Talon aircraft, it’s safe to assume this was a sanctioned hit
Makes sense
Mondatta pushed for peace
Ramattra is adamant that only violence can save omnics
an opera? in space?? id watch it
it would be logical for talon or associate of talon (ramattra) to have ordered it
why would he attack max?
rama most likely is the one who called the hit as the talon leaders were focussed on money at the time. doom was still in prison but it followed his and ramas close ideology. so its most likely rama ordered it. keep in mind he HATED mondatta
Can someone explain widow lore to me
All ik is that she got experimented on by Moira/Talon and she was a ballet dancer and killed her husband cus she was brainwashed
Thats it. But the brainwash is going away slowly
So she’s regaining back her memories essentially?
Idk about that
can tracer double jump in the manga
About the the Widow brainwash going away:
Moira: You've been distant, Lacroix.
Widowmaker: By your design.
Moira: Pondering anything unusual? Dangerous?
Widowmaker: No. Never.
why do you think its going away?
and she never lost her memories
i think she’s just referencing how moira made widow how she is now
or had a part in it
i doubt that her brainwash is going away
i haven’t noticed anything implying so
wants to protects omnics from genocide
orders assassination of his former omnic mentor
brig ate the last piece of cake 
?
Yo do you think the space Overwatch universe lore will spill into the normal OW universe or something? Maybe in the PvE?
starwatch isnt really related
It's kinda like Junkenstein, where it's an in-universe story or tale or whatever. In Starwatch's case, I see a lot of people imagine it being a movie or something in-universe
yea that would make sense
She’s always had them
She isn’t under some form of mind control, right now she’s with Talon because she came back to it. She’s there because she likes to kill
She even said it herself, she’s feels most alive when about to kill someone else
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overwatch or overwatch serious would be the right place
has anyone read the star watch comic yet
I saw the video
I wont be surprised if that was the case cuz he also trapped him and others in a guarded power plant in the king's row uprising
and in the gamespot PvE trailer there was a clip of Sojourn on a train and outside it an omnic NPC was getting chased by a null sector unit
I wouldn't be surpised if Ramattra was abducting omnics in order to put them safe somewhere and wouldn't get hurt when he is going to lead his war against humans.
he does seem like the "it's for your own good" type
I have a feeling that’s absolutely the case. An omnic was seen getting abducted in the Reveal Event segment about PvE + he was considering it in Reflections
Is reaper racist
no?
Why he would be racist ?
He has a voiceline where he calls doom a monkey
he calls Winston a money, not Doom
he calls Winston a Monkey, not Doom
That's an edited video I've seen it too 😂.
Reaper is racist in canon
he's Hispanic
Oh ok
Ok new lore wiston made over watch he is a pine apple and he hates peanut butter
Reyes is an American with Mexican heritage
Pesto
Ok cool!
is there lore in junkertown for ana ?
😂
Based Ana
He also had the line in his story "for those who dont make the choice, we will make the choice for them"
What are your guys’s Overwatch lore hot takes
Tracer is one of the weakest characters in lore who relies on a weakness to be her strength
not necessarily a hot take but pharmercy, yeehan, and any ships within that sort of mindset are bad.
I also just don't like most non-canon or headcanon ships so take that with a grain of salt
Even the canon ones


gency is the only one I really like because it's actually canon and will forever be the cutest OW ship
Genji and mercy technically aren’t together
Not cannon, but I do enjoy ana and rein tbh I think it’s cute
Cute? Maybe. Weird? Yes
Nah kage is right. Ana and Reinhardt is cute. A little elderly couple
weird how?
they have a lot of voicelines together
because he stole tech from Vishkar
it's heavily implied and will probably be confirmed with the pve
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A lot of people talk about how genji is a terrible ninja but not much of them talk about how Widowmaker is a terrible sniper because she doesn’t lay down when shooting
Ana is at least slouching a bit so she’s not as visible
she also was like scoped on mondotta for a few seconds and just like didnt shoot for some reason
well i know the reason
plot wouldnt happen without it
although i would argue if your plot breaks when the character does something they probably would do the plot should probably change
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Speaking of posture, a lot of people complain about widow in the game
Why not give her a laying down animation when scoping in so it’s a slight nerf to her but it still fits her identity as a sniper
Yeah but it would make her easier to dive
The greatest headcanon I've ever seen:
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His gravity power is basically just the Force
So he can do all the stuff Vader could
The sprays show as much at least
i see where you’re coming from but the force extends to more than just pushing pulling and lifting
if sigmas gravity power was basically just the force the characters from Japan wouldn’t be the only problem
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Reaper shouldn't have killed the target in the blackwatch talon invasion.
It destroyed blackwatch
it destroyed Overwatch
if Blackwatch had stayed a secret, Overwatch wouldn't have been investigated by the UN
Blackwatch already destroyed Overwatch lol, it's just this was the smoking gun
even if he never killed Antonio
Overwatch wouldve spiraled still
mostly Reaper
as he wasnt who he once was
ahem
I just realised
It’s kinda sus how talon - main villain faction is mainly POC while overwatch - the “good guy” group is mainly white people (the og group at least)
Ana, Reyes, Liao, Sojourn, Genji, Mei
Jack, Rein, Torb, Mercy, Cassidy, Tracer, Moira
Reaper, Sombra, Doomfist
Widowmaker, Moira, Sigma
Seems about even bothways
Also almost every NPC for both factions is non white
I included Liao because Echo is literally meant to be a standin for her
That’s why I said the OG (original) group
And I wouldn’t count npcs since they’re insignificant to the story
Some NPCs are more significant than characters
But of that group
Ana, Reyes, Liao (alive at the time), Sojourn
Jack, Rein, Torb, Cassidy
Mercy was just as much a part of Overwatch as Pharah there
And the crouching guy is an unknown
Oh I thought you meant people from those factions without names
In Talon, NPCs like Sanjay and Mauga are more relevant than actual playable members like Sigma
No I meant NPCs
As in
NPCs
Non Playable Characters
Liao is an NPC but Echo is playable as a stand-in for her
I also noticed every member of those groups has some counterparts in the other group that serves a similar role
Widow - Ana - sniper
Soldier - Reaper - main soldier/agent
Torb - Sombra - tech support
Mercy - Moira - medic
Winston - Sigma - scientist with hard to control power
Doomfist - Reinhardt- big guy
Echo - Max - omnic
Could be also Torb - Sanjay tbh
doomfist is a foil to winston
winston not to sigma
doomfist and winston, both people doing something illigal for what the ybelieve to be a better future
They are but the rough idea stands
They have a lot in common tho
- scientists
- kept in captivity
- hard to control power
- emotional issues
kept in captivity..?
Winston was a specimen at the Horizon Lunar Colony. Specifically specimen 28. Sigma was kept in captivity for a while after his experiment went wrong, but he was broken out by Talon
Yeah, you can even see his “room” on lunar colony map which is basically a cell
Same with Hammond but he was even kept in a cage like an actual hamster cage
doomfist vs rein would go crazy
If rein has no armour doom wins I think
rein always has armor
ram vs rein would be better though
doom vs winston would be more fitting too
Reaper vs Cass would be f*...g crazy
HELLO PEOPLE
if rein has armor he would aswell
rein is strong but not can take a huge crater forming punch strong
echo refers to herself as a omnic in voicelines
does she?
all I could find were voiceline interactions about aurora being her predecessor
Echo: Dr. Liao was not fond of you.
Moira: Was she any fonder of you?
Echo: Of course. I was her life's work.
Moira: It seemed to me she was far more taken by your predecessor.
—
Ramattra: It's a shame none of us have ever met Aurora, your predecessor.
Echo: I hear that often. ahem What would you have asked her?
Ramattra: The same thing I ask her everyday. I wish she could answer.
Brigitte: Papa, is there anything you'd like to say to our teammates?
Torbjörn: I'm... looking forward to working with you.
Echo: Likewise.
this voiceline occurs with brig, torb, and any omnic teammate
besides bastion
also torb is omnic racist
he’s trying his best!
I was wrong about echo referring to herself as an omnic, but it seems like she is considered one by torb’s (society’s????) standards due to being a sentient robot
yeah
Is torb before he found bastion leader of omnjc kkk?
"omnic" is just a brand name robot
yeah
so all omnics are robots, but not all robots are omnics
ram seems to refer to omnics as specifically sentient omnics and others are drones
Shes a sentient AI. Torbjorn doesnt trust AI in general
just like my classmates, except they are not sentient
who’s the most powerful character in the lore
Confirmed most powerful is likely Winston. For potential power, Symmetra and Sigma could be no. 1
winton
he tanked missiles without a scratch in his cinematic
more like bombs
his rocket hammer would probably be close to the power of doomfists fist
because they could both break or15 units with one strike
Doomfist is significantly more mobile with his gauntlet though
rein is really fast with his rocket powered armor too
Not to the level of Doomfist's mobility
not on his level though
Yea
is he that fast in lore though? i dont remember seeing him do anything crazy like that in his cinematic
No nothing over-the-top like in-game, but he's still overall more mobile than Reinhardt. Reinhardt is strictly ground-bound, but Doomfist can leap into the air and such
he can jump pretty high though too
if he can then rein can
he was also extremely weak at that time so he could probably jump even higher
I think the jump seen here is exaggerated, but maybe they'd be able to jump higher than average via their jet boosters or something
the jump is exaggerated so it should match Reinhardt's earthshatter highlight intro
besides torb would just give him rocket boosters like in the april fools update ☝️🤓
it was his hammer that launched him in the air in this, not his armor
it looks really weird when they use the rockets on their armor
it just looks like they're sliding around
the crusader heelies
they are, their shoes are built (like pharah's) as helicopter skids / sleigh skids.
they're pretty much just walking on sleds
or rather, I guess ice skates
The rockets on their armor are pretty close to starcraft's iirc
a lot of the purpose is just to get the damn suit moving forward from the weight
when more moira lore 
which comic book is about monkey?
Winston is in Reflections
And has a side appearance in London Calling too
who is the most racist and homophobic character
probably bastion. all those beeps could be racial slurs and we’d never know
Junkers are
Junkerqueen, Roadhog, and Junkrat
for the racist part
no one is showed homophobic
dont see why Cassidy, Ashe, and Moira are homophobic
Cassidy is friends with Tracer
torb WAS the most racist but now it’s probably ramattra
no
genocidal messiah
he wants to wipe humanity out pretty much so that the omnics can be free
he's a genocidal freedom fighter :p
they still are
Null Sector doesn't want to wipe all of humanity out (yet) but it does want to secure a nation for the Omnics and to do that some people are gonna die lol
Most racist is probably Junkerqueen but personally I don’t think she’s homophobic
Overwatch is an optimistic future. So what are you all on about???
There is racism toward omnics, but that’s it.
is doomfist the boss of talon?

a worldwide robot war doesnt seem too optimistic
Not as much
The worst part, that's not all.
I wouldn't say ''optimistic future''
How can we explain that ?
It would be omnicsticsticstic
😂
The Hopeful Future
as described in Loverwatch
the optimistic part is that, despite the war, there are still heroes fighting for a better future
you can have an optimistic outlook without everything being roses and unicorns
Yeah but Overwatch still illegal
and never enforced as such because necessary
I thought they were neutral good
would you call moira neutral good
No
She's chaotic good, used to be at least. I'd say working with talon makes her neutral evil.
Moira is more chaotic neutral imo
she doesn't care about good or evil, she just wants to do science
At the end of the day you could argue her experiements are to help humanity
But the way she goes about it is very chaotic
her experiments are to progress scientific advances
she doesn't give a shit about humanity
Fair enough
“Humanity is shackled, I will find the key”
3/5 party vc only
I think it’s more about “improving” humanity and removing humanity’s limitations
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omg who said that
wtf

Unchecked desire leads to disaster, especially when trying to "improve" humanity or anything. No one person has the key to everything.
I meant that her goal is humanity’s improvement, not that she’s succeeding at it
Her goal is formed off imperceived notions
What she's trying to accomplish can never come to fruition for that reason.
Moira is just straight up Josef Mengele. Her experiments are horrifical and extremely unethical and produced little to no actually good results.
I wouldn't say Moira's experiments lead to bad results in terms of science, but they are bad in terms of ethicality and morality
Reaper wouldn't be alive today if it weren't for Moira's advanced knowledge on genetics and science
Real, he does in fact live in constant pain though. One could say he's still an experiment that is currently going on
Well one difference is that she's actually doing it "for science" rather than for a promotion
But on some level yes
Is cabaret Luna alive
no shot
who is the strongest lore wise no biased opinion
give me top 3 obviously excluding sig
ramattra :3
nope
winston sym orisa
how
Of course she is
winston and orisa are both extremely durable and have beaten doomfist before
sym is basically green lantern without the willpower downside
I mean is she sentient
like can she think her own thoughts and be her own person
Or is she programmed to stand and sing all day
nah no way you just compared her to green lantern??
not lore🤓
Mercy lore W
this is so tapped
SUFFER AS I HAVE and then i plow into a single mother of 4
nah..
why not
Yeah they should though lmao
?
jokeman
Idk it’s just true lol
Winston, Doomfist, Orisa (Sigma would replace Orisa in the top 3 however)
the problem with ranking sym high now is that she's literally just a human with hardlight, she could quite easily be one-shot by anything that decided it wanted to kill her
that applies to every hero
Again, Symmetra not Doomfist
And we dont know if Sigma would replace Orisa or not
The 4 contenders for strongest, contenders meaning that all 4 can potentially be #1 because we don't know, are:
- Orisa
- Winston
- Symmetra
- Sigma
I fail to see how Sym is fighting Doomfist in any scenario or any of the top 3-4
And if Sigma were to replace one of those 3
He would replace Doomfist
Because Doomfist isnt a contender for top 3
While Doomfist was incapable of doing anything to Orisa (and she's been upgraded twice since then) and he lost a fist fight to Winston (with the gauntlet too)
The only way Doomfist is top 3 is if he is stronger than both Sigma and Symmetra
both Doomfist and Reaper were atleast capable of knocking out winston for a brief period, Doomfist seemed to do more damage based on their respective cinematics though
She's basically the green lantern. Except isntead of flight she can teleport. We dont know what her limitations are, but they are absurd.
Doomfist would've won that fight as well had it not been for winston's funny haha plot armor
There is nothing stopping her from just doing the Green Lantern classic against characters that are just brute force
And building a box around them
we don't know the full capabilities of hardlight, we've mainly just seen it use for construction purposes in the lore
the problem again is, I'd much rather go with accomplished feats, and we've already seen what Sigma and Doomfist are capable of (atleast in doom's case, Sigma's I can write off as an accident)
Like, let me build a case example based solely on just her construction feats. Symmetra can literally do this, while standing like 10 feet away and dancing, with a more durable material than whatever Fortnite wood is
And she does it faster
none of them would be able to compete with Winston and Orisa's plot armor though
What the fuck is Doomfist gonna do if a wall gets built on all 4 sides around him
And then starts floating
or like what if she build a cube and then just like makes it smaller and crushes him
considering he's battled tracer, genji, and winston all at once, I'm positive he'd have a plan against Sym
Sure
battling people and losing doesnt mean you're powerful
hes won against tracer and genji sure
or let's ignore the hypotheticals here, there's also Reaper who can likely just ignore hardlight all together due to his abilities
Its less that Winston has plot armor and more that Winston is a mary sue
Also, Code of Violence proves that Reaper is much more mortal than he looks
i dont think reaper can go through solid objects
He cant phase through solid objects
so like sym builds a cube around him and crushes him
there's also the whole case of assassination too
Punch through it slowly like he did his prison wall
Sure, he can do that
But its gonna take long enough that the fight is over
We know Doomfist is capable as well, excluding the fact he's THE leader of talon
Yes, he is capable
He is potentially top 5 in strength
The only other variable is Ramattra
Who is an unknown
And Echo
Who is half unknown
honestly I just can't wait for Ram to get expanded upon
we know he uses Nanites (or atleast implied?)
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Not sure
Null Sector vs Talon civil war would be a cool thing that would probably never happen unless we get a Ram and Zen talk
the devs said he uses nanites in the dev update about him
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is it true Kiriko's mom is the best sword master who taught Genji and Hanzo how to use a sword?
yes
at the end of ashes cinematic cassidy gets echo out of her chamber and they have a slight interaction, are echo and cassidy a thing/ever were?
Cassidy was the bodyguard for Echo's creator, Dr. Liao
as a result, he and Echo spent a lot of time together
i was always confused they seemed flirty lol, but tyty
Cassidy is just a charming guy
real
Happy mother's day to all the named moms of Overwatch: Ana Amari, Ingrid Lindholm, Asa Yamagami, Martina Reyes, Fola Oladele
and honorary mention to the "mothers" of robots, Efi Oladele and Dr. Mina Liao
ana is basically the mother of overwatch
No, just Ana
yeah we got the names of her extended family in the novel
Pharah's dad is named Sam
we saw him in the comic Reflections
well, the back of his head
yeah he's in a spray
how would that be Blizzard's fault?
people will do that regardless
that certainly hasn't stopped anyone
Aurora
She was one of Liao’s other creations
Aurora transcended and gave omnics sentience
That’s nice euphemism for fuckboy lmao
Cassidy is not a fuckboy
I’m just kidding
😠
Lol
Bro wants us to do math 💀 do square mass of metal times square inch
I think. Im Just in 7th grade 😭
He probably weighs more than Orisa
according to one of the novels, he weighs two tons
They’d left the old utility truck they’d “borrowed” from the estate back in the brush, stripped of all registration markers, physical or digital. B.O.B. was a little more difficult to conceal, but he could move surprisingly lightly for two tons of metal, and there was no surveillance in this area to worry about.
there you go
yes

Reaper is a fuckboy but not Cassidy
dont see how either of them are
Reaper is a killer
both are/were
They’re both killers lol
so is cass tbh
anyone in new ow is aswell
tf2 and ow are vastly different, sorry mate
that whole debate was stupid
well, except for the implied newcomers being lucio and dva
no even those
theyre all criminals cuz overwatch is banned
and lucio already was for yknow stealing back the tech from vishkar
define 'criminals' in this case, a criminal in the eyes of the law yes but I don't think the people would see new overwatch that way
i know but thats what i meant, in the law theyre technically all criminals
and alot of people will see them as such
those who grew up with them getting banned and blamed
Isn't the case for me but whatever
clearly nobody knows what a fuckboy is

^^
What are all LGBTQ characters in overwatch
I have heard that wifeleaver is pansexual
and bap is heavily implied being bi
Yeah, he got rizzed up by Lifeweaver
I’m hoping they’ll get some cool rewards for the upcoming pride event 
Wait soldier is actually gay?
I thought that was a headcannon..
yea soldier is gay
Yes he is.
Didnt he have like a flirty interaction with ana in ow1?
Not really
There's been one where Ana complimented his appearance and he, like
accepted it, but didn't reciprocate
Ana: For a man of your years, you're looking pretty good, Jack.
Soldier: 76: Well, all that stuff they pumped into me has to be good for something.
The others are them reminiscing or being like "yeah good that we're fighting together"
Jack and Ana are just friends
yea
I hope not
like rein talks to her in such a caring way and its said they danced in the base until morning or something
They are friends and it's enough
lol
No I swear
I don't want a relationship between them
Even if they were a couple I don't think it would last long
Because I have feeling that Rein is gonna die
That's almost certainly not happening
Is watching the cinematics enough to know most of the story?
Cause I dont feel like reading all the books
There are only three books and they're side stories
The others are comics and 12-ish page short stories
Oh alr
That said if you watch Recall and Zero Hour you're pretty set on the main story
Why ?
if you want the full story of the main plot, read these stories in this order
I really feel like Rein is going to die
I don't see a reason for it
Perhaps a sacrifice ?
Not a reason for him to do it, a reason for the story to go that way
With the way the world and story is set up there is nothing killing off a hero will accomplish that can't be done without it
It's been discussed in this channel dozens of times before
I don't see the point in killing off a hero
The only way I see them sending off a hero is if the (english) VA dies
It introduces a huge disconnect between the game and lore and needlessly cuts off potential stories with that hero in the future
If they want Rein to do a Big Glorious Sacrifice for the mission he can be injured and out of action for a long-ish time, the impact of the story itself will be similar
But it won't mean that you can't ever have Rein again in any mission or plot development in the future, unlike death
It's complicated 
if they were going to kill him off, I would expect some kind of hints leading up to it
not just out of the blue Reinhardt gets killed on a mission
i tried explaining to my brother that sigma has an infinite flying bug, i said, first get your ultimate and he called me a re-
i don’t think this is the channel for that
oooooh, why am i in the lore channel
#overwatch-serious or #overwatch might be what you’re looking for
i actually dk why am here but ok thanks for telling me so i didnt get banned
So are we guaranteed more cinematics? (Actually cinematics like alive and honor and glory)
There is a Sojourn one on the work.
yes there will be more cinematics
I hope they make a ramattra one 🙏
I want a Lucio one
Yes we need this, rammattra is so so cool
i think there’s gonna be a story with hanzo and a null sector attack
hopefully more is expanded upon ram there
well Ramattra is leading Null Sector against Overwatch in the story, so it's almost impossible that we dont get more about him
I mainly still want a Civil War plot between Anubis and Ram
That is my ultimate story wish
Bruh I could’ve sworn someone said Anubis was still out there
he was put back into quarantine by Pharah's team
Who is Anubis?
A god AI in Egypt that started taking over omnics
Or at least I think he was a god AI
Ohhh ok thanks 👍
he was contained in a statue
Please elaborate
What is new blood
the group Cassidy formed in the New Blood comic
Helping him or trying to stop him?
helping him
Jack does want kill Sojourn ?
no
he just resents the fact that she testified against Overwatch during the UN hearings
Who’s Jack trying to get revenge on specifically
Talon/whoever blew up the Swiss HQ
they go to Gibraltar to join up with Winston
Does JQ not want to fight Ramattra because he's sort of humane or something else
Yeah but what did she mean by that
Like him being a humanoid.. his morals of wanting to just protect his people..?
Kinda vague
probably the type of things he can do
does it mean that all ravagers have abilities like ramattra
ramattra doesnt have any abilities like nemesis in lore so yea
he gotta have something for a boss fight man
maybe we'll have to wait and see
his morals are unique to Ramattra, other R-7000s wouldn't have that
Wow I just noticed sojourn was in the recall animatic
And an early ver of echo model too
Would 2.3 tonnes be a good estimate of how heavy BOB is?
he's 2 tons
where is this information
in Deadlock Rebels
They’d left the old utility truck they’d “borrowed” from the estate back in the brush, stripped of all registration markers, physical or digital. B.O.B. was a little more difficult to conceal, but he could move surprisingly lightly for two tons of metal, and there was no surveillance in this area to worry about.
that's US tons
so 1.8 metric tonnes
i figured bob was heavy but not that heavy
is fortify a lore thing or no
i assume yes
because how else would she not be destroyed by doomfist like the other or15s
fortify was probably created by efi oladele to not get wrecked by doomfist
its just her chasis
How funny would it be if in-game doom could still stun her while she's fortify 😂
Doomfist has lost to Orisa once already
I love how the lore ties into the game. Like how reaper counters winston and orisan countering doom
They should make another doom fight scene cinematic
Like the one with genji, tracer and Winton
Image how poetic it would be if genji made ram a good guy
waht if they had kids 😈
not possible
use your imagination
no thanks
i mean that happens in the honor and glory cinematic so why can the or14s do it and not the 15s
Or14s are gnarly
Although there was no information how heavy the Idina Bots are, a single Or14 was able to kill a crusader by jumping on them.
its not completely, shes just always like that
Ram is even more repulsed by genji than by regular humans
That and also because hes a cyborg
Probably thinks he’s pretending to be omnic or something
Mercy ult solo with her BB gun
I don't think Rammatra hates him for being a cyborg at all, but more so he just doesn't trust him or his personality. One of his kill lines mentions "Your performative servitude sickens me" He likely doesn't believe Genji is genuine, and is otherwise not worth the time or "pity" Zen has spent to train him
I wouldn't even say its because of him being apart of a crime family, since Ram's interaction with Hanzo is pretty chill. Dude just does not like Genji on a very personal level
But there’s also an elimination voice line where he says something like “this combination of human and machine sickens me”
Do ram and zarya have lines? I assume so but I don’t know if I found them
I don’t think so
I think zarya says “one less deadly machine” when she kills him tho
What lol that has to be an oversight. No way the most humanK omnic and the most omnicK human don’t have beef
Wdym
Ramattra is the most vehemently anti human of the omnics we see (without getting into the why that is). Zarya of course hates the lot
If nothing else you could have something where people like Zarya are the reason Ram is who he is
She held pretty strong opinions about all omnics, said some gross stuff in Numbani about the two mixing
Ram hates JQ for example who was killing omnics (actual sentient ones) for fun and not for valid reason
Even her comic that one hacker didn’t seem to change her mind too much, maybe a little
I don’t know about that
If a novel or something has fleshed her out since then I wouldn’t know
“Numbani makes my skin crawl. People associating freely with Omnics. I can’t wait to get out of here.” - Searching, p. 4
Not terrible but not rosy
she does change her attitude by the end of the comic
Where can I read all the lore cause I don’t know much yet lol
look in the pins
lore accurate genji would still get his shit kicked in by everyone on the roster
he's still a cyborg and a trained ninja
so he could beat people like Mei or Mercy or Moira
If ball has a profanity filter dose that mean he said every slur known to man?
“Trained”
Let’s be honest, he never took the training seriously I mean just look at him
he's a pretty good ninja
Cassidy vs Genji for mercy when
Thats an interesting hypothesis
I want it to be reality...
Feral hampter
rein definitely played doom
no new map in s5?
We really need a new game mode
Flashpoint could be a new mode
Tbh, yeah. "Flashpoint" seems like an odd name for a map
Maybe because I didn't notice a new game mode PvP in roadmap
why would Flashpoint be a map? S6 has a new hero though
but wouldnt that mean S5 doesnt have a map and hero?
So PVE scaled back massively, talent tree system scrapped entirely and a handful of Archives-esque story missions on the horizon.
Not a good day for lore fans!
We'll get some morsels but not the feast we were hoping for, it seems.
Bro I'm excited for it, I don't really care that the skill trees are gone
yes indeed, ultimately it is what it is
what’s the whole mischief magic thing? is it the theme of the bp next season or is it a event
We don't know. It could possibly tie in to whatever "questwatch" is
non-canon event, like starwatch?
I need it to be an rpg
The font reminds me of the valentine's day event so
how do yall feel about overwatch basically just throwing away the whole story
It might be a separate thing from overwatch
Brig can finally be the raid boss she wanted to be
They scrapped skill trees, that's it
PvE is still happening
I liked retribution a lot, hope the new PvE missions are like it
I will eat any and all PvE content raw, because I love the PvE in this game
they scrapped skill trees and the whole campaign
this greedy ass company
No they didn't. They never said anything about scrapping the campaign
were literally not getting a main campaign
don't repeat daft lies plz
Where is that stated
Because I never heard anything contradicting anything they've said in the past regarding what PvE we get
the main campaign is all we're getting
the hero missions/talents are what was scrapped, not the story missions
Oh FUCK I must have overheard the hero missions.. those are gone as well?
it literally says Story Missions on the roadmap
they said they scrapped a main campaign, were instead gonna get short campaigns released
I just expected the hero missions to come later
they said they scrapped giving us the whole campaign at once, instead it will be released in parts over the seasons
What about the hero mastery missions (multiplayer) in later seasons?
but it will still be one overarching story campaign
theres no progression, no replayability, no skilltrees
And I'm gonna eat it up
they're adding player progression in a different way
Could this be "hero missions"
we get battle pass xp?
We're getting Archives-style event missions (implied multiple for the Season 6 launch); but no big campaign.
we don't know the details yet
yall cant defend blizzard with this one tbh
I can because my standards are very low
the roadmap says "Player Progression System" in season 6
i like the fact that story mode is being released in parts. this channel will explode less and we can theorize and enjoy the story in an easily digestible manner
touché.
not defending, just accepting futility
i wish starwatch was more pve
It'd likely also be overwhelming for Blizz having to release the entire story at once
I'd say it depends on how many missions we get per season
and also like more of a gamemode its basically just 2cp with extra points
they're also adding lore to the game as a sort of database or codex
sucks that i cant grind my zen to level 20 and kill everything with some overpowered snap kick talent but oh well. i see it as a worthy sacrifice to see him be animated for 10 minutes
that you can unlock through missions
Yeah if only they had given themselves several years to prepare. 😛
Still. It's way better to release it in waves imo
boohoo
a multi millionare company has to do work?
unacceptable
And I loved it
theyve developed the pve for like 4 or 5 years at this point
i wish we got a new pve trailer
billion dollar company lol
I literally don't care about all of this as long as the PvE releases at all
it wont even have a coherent story man
same. thank god story mode is still happening at all
I do not give a shit. All that matters to me is that it has even the smallest hint of fun to play
i wish we got a pve mission against null sector
My only requirement for PvE is that it isn't unfun
like didnt they have demos multiple years ago
They showed a lot of ideas in that one super-long video years ago
and they had like skill trees or something
im super curious to see how different the rio mission is
I hope they kept the dynamic enemies
Yep, they had the Rio de Janeiro PVE mission (implied to be the first of the campaign) at 2019 Blizzcon.
it will
did you even watch the stream?
junkenstein had some cool stuff
like how coach gunning the robots into walls would stun them
I do think they're keeping the unique enemy interactions
Like the chain reactions we saw in some clips
Not all story missions will be canon, worth mentioning. They made that clear; we'll get some canon missions with an overarching story, and other non-canon ones (which I'm guessing will be more like Starwatch; alternative themed worlds/settings, etc)
That was part of the talent tree system, wasn't it?
the talent tree seems very interesting
seemed*
It seemed like a global thing. They showed an example where when one Null trooper recoiled from being shot, if they bumped into nearby troopers, they would also recoil
i really hope they keep it
Oh I misunderstood. I thought you meant those clips of Tracer sticking a bomb on one enemy and it chain-reacting through the whole crowd.
Ah okay
Confirmed as scrapped unfortunately.
Yeah it's unfortunate
where did they confirm that?
But I don't really mind
In the devchat
Developer update on Twitch that ended about 20 minutes ago.
