#lore-discussion

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wind portal
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!!shitposting

twilit nacelleBOT
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Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

golden oak
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Is lucheng the company that made lunar colony?

peak escarp
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yes

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Lucheng Interstellar

golden oak
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Why does reaper mention them
I think he’s got like 2 quotes even

peak escarp
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because they're a well known public company that probably has dirt on them

golden oak
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I mean experimenting on animal is quite controversial, especially experiments they were doing

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Did they continue their work after the incident on lunar colony or shut down?

peak escarp
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they are still active

golden oak
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Didn’t people cancel Moira for experimenting on animals tho???

peak escarp
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we don't know the details of Moira's work - she did work on animals, but there were probably other things that made her unethical

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other scientists couldn't reproduce her results, which means she either falsified the results or lied about the methods

zenith mango
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Was there any more implication in the star watch thing

peak escarp
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it's an Alternative Universe

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not canon

zenith mango
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Also are bap and lifeweaver a thing

peak escarp
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they flirt

rare trail
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they havent met in lore yet though

zenith mango
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Are they ever gonna make more cinematic

peak escarp
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yes

rare trail
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a sojourn one is in the works

zenith mango
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s

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Is there a schedule/1 a year or something

peak escarp
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there used to be a schedule

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but not anymore

zenith mango
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Is there any way to find out if one is in the works

golden oak
peak escarp
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🤷‍♀️

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a lot of companies test on animals

golden oak
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I feel like it’s even worse since people died because of their experiments right?

zenith mango
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Moira saved Reyes form dying by turning him into reaper right

golden oak
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Yes

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She used a higher dose of the thing she used before on him

zenith mango
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I just want more cinematic

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Also will there be any more hanzo x genii stuff

rare trail
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hanzo short story might expand on that relationship

golden oak
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Hanzo Story will probably include kiriko since genji is with overwatch now
And in game voice lines implied a bit that Hanzo might help take down hashimotos

zenith mango
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Wait wait wait

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When is a hanzo short coming out?

golden oak
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I don’t think there’s any date known yet

zenith mango
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How do we know it’s coming then

upbeat violet
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what do you guys think about a vs hashimoto clan mission

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with genji, hanzo and kiriko

zenith mango
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How do we know a hanzo short is coming

golden oak
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A lot of people said it is
I think it was said in some interview maybe

peak escarp
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short story

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not animated short

golden oak
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So a comic?

rare trail
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no

peak escarp
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there's a collection of 8 short stories coming out next year, one of them is Hanzo defending Tokyo from Null Sector

rare trail
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like code of violence

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mainly text

peak escarp
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another is Symmetra going to find Lifeweaver

golden oak
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Oh so not hashimotos

zenith mango
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@peak escarp by next year do you mean during 2024, and by short stories do u mean the ones like ‘dragons’ or the ones with the choppier animation style

peak escarp
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the original release date was later this year, but the Amazon listing changed to next year

zenith mango
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Is it comics or YouTube animations?

peak escarp
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I think that date is a placeholder

zenith mango
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Are my messages going through

peak escarp
zenith mango
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Example?

rare trail
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bastet

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what you left behind

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code of violence

peak escarp
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like Code of Violence

stiff socket
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Honestly

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I think it could be interesting

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If junkerqueen and junkrat

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Were siblings

zenith mango
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So they are actual books?

rare trail
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yes

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sojourn hero of numbani and deadlock rebels

rare trail
stiff socket
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I’m saying that could be cool

rare trail
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we've seen junkerqueens whole family

stiff socket
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YEAH@well

zenith mango
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How long are the books

stiff socket
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Retcons

zenith mango
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Like how many pages

rare trail
zenith mango
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Each?

rare trail
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yea

zenith mango
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And how many are in the package

rare trail
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what package?

zenith mango
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You can get like a package deal

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A collection

rare trail
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i dont know what package you're talking about

peak escarp
zenith mango
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On Amazon

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Yeah that

rare trail
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i dont think that has the novels

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it has the short stories

zenith mango
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Oh

peak escarp
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we were talking about this

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there isn't a collection for the novels

rare trail
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i assume hanzo is with kiriko sym with lifeweaver and ana and jack with soj maybe

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i wonder who the informant is

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probably someone in blackwatch

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maybe genji or cass but that seems kinda unlikely

peak escarp
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it wouldn't be Sojourn

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she's rejoining Overwatch in the story missions

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the informant is probably a new hero

rare trail
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is it a tank or support next?

peak escarp
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the other two stories listed there feature new heroes

peak escarp
rare trail
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ok so yea probably a ex overwatch agent support then

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is there anyone who fits that description that we know of?

peak escarp
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not really

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Mirembe maybe?

rare trail
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whos mirembe?

peak escarp
rare trail
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that would make sense

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it could just be a new character like lifeweaver but i hope its someone like mirembe

upbeat violet
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id honestly love more insight into auroras process of ascending

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or something of the such

zenith mango
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I think she transcended not ascended

stiff socket
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Okay genuine question

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Do you guys agree that Overwatch has magic in it

rare trail
stiff socket
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Because I think Overwatch is definitely sci-fi and magical

rare trail
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yeah i think it has some magic

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genji hanzo and kiriko especially

stiff socket
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Zen

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I think zen is magical

rare trail
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most of zens stuff isnt canon

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he says in voicelines smth about how magic is just science people dont understand

peak escarp
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Zen still has some form of healing that he gets from the Iris

rare trail
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Mercy: I refuse to believe that your healing is magical.
Zenyatta: What seems like magic is sometimes science we don't yet understand.
Mercy: Exactly! I must learn how it works!

stiff socket
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Speaking of mercy

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Do you guys think she helped Moira with one of her subjects before

zenith mango
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No

rare trail
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yeah i dont think she helped moira

zenith mango
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“I’d rather wait a century for progress than cause the harm you have!”

rare trail
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Sombra: Bet you omnics are great gamblers.
Zenyatta: Why do you believe so?
Sombra: Built-in poker faces.
Zenyatta: True. It also makes us great teachers, for we can easily hide our disappointment.

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i like zens voicelines

zenith mango
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He’s the best

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Best voice lines are any between 2 bunkers tho

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Junkers*

upbeat violet
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when do you guys think we’ll get more on sigma

golden oak
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Am I the only one who wants another evil support in the game?
Moira is not enough for me

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Maybe some omnic from null sector

peak escarp
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another omnic support means we could do a full robot team

hollow tinsel
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Ramattra, Orisa, echo, bastion,and zen. We could do a messed up team

peak escarp
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I mean a team with role queue

golden oak
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Apparently another support will be also “cute” afaik

fathom canyon
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I haven't been on Overwatch in a minute, do the Starwatch AU skins got any custom voicelines or anythin?

golden oak
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Nope, I don’t think any of them does
Even sigma mythic

opaque scroll
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They did add a few with the patch

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sigma skin has a special ult voiceline and many of them have skin specific spawn lines

golden oak
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Oh, good
They needed them

hasty walrus
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The sigma skin has loads of new voice lines

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The winston one might have some, his hero select line is different

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But yeah Sigma got loads, almost any voice input has an alternate line or two for his emperor skin

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Like, even a custom "hello" which is crazy

ivory garnet
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they all have different voicelines

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not ult voicelines

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just interactions

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and utility/kill voicelines

silver tide
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If Ramattra finds out Talon was responsible for Mondatta's death would he kill Maximilien?

wind portal
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I think Ram already knows

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or atleast, doesn't care

pallid flume
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I think He knows and He doesnt care

ivory garnet
shadow marsh
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Is it true Widowmaker wasn't instructed by Talon to kill Mondatta? I hadn't seen it here that was pointed out, heard that she killed him on her own for the sake of "causing" war for Doom's ideology.

dense nebula
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I have no idea

peak escarp
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we don't know who ordered it

late valve
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no

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He just recruited her not trained

vast gate
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My favorite

Torbjörn: Who developed those orbs of yours?

Zenyatta: Ask not who their maker is, but what they mean.

Torbjörn: You don't know, do you?

Zenyatta: I embrace the unknown.

keen summit
coral timber
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i feel like jq had the best bp cosmetic wise

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she had so many custom things

chilly widget
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But considering how she was brainwashed into being a loyal assassin for Talon and she is extracted by Talon aircraft, it’s safe to assume this was a sanctioned hit

chilly widget
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Mondatta pushed for peace

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Ramattra is adamant that only violence can save omnics

bitter canyon
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an opera? in space?? id watch it

keen summit
keen summit
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rama most likely is the one who called the hit as the talon leaders were focussed on money at the time. doom was still in prison but it followed his and ramas close ideology. so its most likely rama ordered it. keep in mind he HATED mondatta

rotund flower
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Can someone explain widow lore to me

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All ik is that she got experimented on by Moira/Talon and she was a ballet dancer and killed her husband cus she was brainwashed

hard pulsar
rotund flower
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So she’s regaining back her memories essentially?

hard pulsar
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Idk about that

midnight crag
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can tracer double jump in the manga

zenith mango
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About the the Widow brainwash going away:

Moira: You've been distant, Lacroix.
Widowmaker: By your design.
Moira: Pondering anything unusual? Dangerous?
Widowmaker: No. Never.

rare trail
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and she never lost her memories

upbeat violet
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or had a part in it

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i doubt that her brainwash is going away

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i haven’t noticed anything implying so

golden oak
dull radish
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brig ate the last piece of cake NOWAY

rare trail
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?

hollow tinsel
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Yo do you think the space Overwatch universe lore will spill into the normal OW universe or something? Maybe in the PvE?

rare trail
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starwatch isnt really related

worthy rose
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It's kinda like Junkenstein, where it's an in-universe story or tale or whatever. In Starwatch's case, I see a lot of people imagine it being a movie or something in-universe

rare trail
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yea that would make sense

dense nebula
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She isn’t under some form of mind control, right now she’s with Talon because she came back to it. She’s there because she likes to kill

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She even said it herself, she’s feels most alive when about to kill someone else

lyric rampart
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guys i have a problem when i start overwatch the game says disconeccted

dense nebula
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Wrong channel

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!!loreonly

twilit nacelleBOT
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This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

rare trail
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overwatch or overwatch serious would be the right place

upbeat violet
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has anyone read the star watch comic yet

merry mason
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I saw the video

rain shoal
grand wedge
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I wouldn't be surpised if Ramattra was abducting omnics in order to put them safe somewhere and wouldn't get hurt when he is going to lead his war against humans.

peak escarp
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he does seem like the "it's for your own good" type

opaque tundra
warped sparrow
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Is reaper racist

rare trail
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no?

twilit patrol
warped sparrow
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He has a voiceline where he calls doom a monkey

peak escarp
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he calls Winston a money, not Doom

ivory garnet
hollow tinsel
ancient mural
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Reaper is racist in canon

hollow tinsel
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Yeah to robots tho?

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Isn't he like, black too?

peak escarp
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he's Hispanic

hollow tinsel
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Oh ok

peak escarp
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no wait

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latino

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I always get those two mixed up

icy mango
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Ok new lore wiston made over watch he is a pine apple and he hates peanut butter

peak escarp
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Reyes is an American with Mexican heritage

deft thorn
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Pesto

hollow tinsel
steel wyvern
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is there lore in junkertown for ana ?

peak escarp
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she's been there apparently

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kicked someone in the nuts

peak escarp
hollow tinsel
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😂

vagrant pollen
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Based Ana

keen summit
zenith mango
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What are your guys’s Overwatch lore hot takes

dense nebula
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Tracer is one of the weakest characters in lore who relies on a weakness to be her strength

wind portal
dense nebula
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All ships are bad

wind portal
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I also just don't like most non-canon or headcanon ships so take that with a grain of salt

dense nebula
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Even the canon ones

wind portal
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cannon

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yaargh

dense nebula
lyric tinsel
rare trail
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yeah i dont like most ships

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especially non canon ones

wind portal
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gency is the only one I really like because it's actually canon and will forever be the cutest OW ship

dense nebula
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Hog and Pachimari

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I will accept no less

zenith mango
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Genji and mercy technically aren’t together

warped latch
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Not cannon, but I do enjoy ana and rein tbh I think it’s cute

dense nebula
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Cute? Maybe. Weird? Yes

hollow tinsel
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Nah kage is right. Ana and Reinhardt is cute. A little elderly couple

upbeat violet
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they have a lot of voicelines together

peak escarp
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because he stole tech from Vishkar

wind portal
livid token
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Guys I’m looking for some overwatch players to join my clan overwatch team I need about 3 people anybody interested ages 1 2to 14

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Dm me if intrested

rare trail
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!!lfg

twilit nacelleBOT
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LOOKING FOR GROUP

If you are looking for people to play with, assign yourself an LFG role in #roles-old!

livid token
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I just joined chill

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Bro ski

rare trail
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im just telling you where to go

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looking for group is where you're supposed to go for that

livid token
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Ok then what server to a recruit?

livid token
rare trail
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you're supposed to go to the lfg channels if you're looking for a group

livid token
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I’m recruiting

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For people

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Not looking

rare trail
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lfg is the place to "recruit"

livid token
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Gotcha

twilit patrol
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This is serious discussion of Overwatch lore

golden oak
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A lot of people talk about how genji is a terrible ninja but not much of them talk about how Widowmaker is a terrible sniper because she doesn’t lay down when shooting

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Ana is at least slouching a bit so she’s not as visible

rare trail
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she also was like scoped on mondotta for a few seconds and just like didnt shoot for some reason

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well i know the reason

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plot wouldnt happen without it

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although i would argue if your plot breaks when the character does something they probably would do the plot should probably change

limpid agate
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Ana does more proper posture in the comic Legacy

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!!lorecomics

twilit nacelleBOT
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London Calling: !!LondonCalling

New Blood: !!NewBlood

golden oak
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Speaking of posture, a lot of people complain about widow in the game
Why not give her a laying down animation when scoping in so it’s a slight nerf to her but it still fits her identity as a sniper

limpid agate
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"nerf"

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That's a buff

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Try hitting a prone hitbozx

golden oak
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Yeah but it would make her easier to dive

hasty walrus
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The greatest headcanon I've ever seen:
Galactic Emperor Sigma increasing gravity on someone who refuses to kneel so they're forced to their knees anyway

limpid agate
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His gravity power is basically just the Force

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So he can do all the stuff Vader could

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The sprays show as much at least

upbeat violet
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i see where you’re coming from but the force extends to more than just pushing pulling and lifting

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if sigmas gravity power was basically just the force the characters from Japan wouldn’t be the only problem

limpid agate
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Galactic Emperor Sigma's power is just the Force

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Not regular Sigma

upbeat violet
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oh

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i haven’t seen what he can do

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do they showcase his power in the comic?

rare trail
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hes not in the comic

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not yet at least

icy mesa
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guys can some one help me plz

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wen i want to get in overwach it say sorry we were unable yo login in

rare trail
solid saffron
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!!LondonCalling

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Am I typing it wrong or is the bot down?

opaque tundra
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You can find the links in pinned messages

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If you really wanna read it, then have fun

twilit patrol
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!!LondonCalling

twilit nacelleBOT
twilit patrol
worn thunder
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Reaper shouldn't have killed the target in the blackwatch talon invasion.

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It destroyed blackwatch

peak escarp
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it destroyed Overwatch

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if Blackwatch had stayed a secret, Overwatch wouldn't have been investigated by the UN

wind portal
ivory garnet
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even if he never killed Antonio

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Overwatch wouldve spiraled still

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mostly Reaper

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as he wasnt who he once was

uncut dome
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ahem

golden oak
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I just realised
It’s kinda sus how talon - main villain faction is mainly POC while overwatch - the “good guy” group is mainly white people (the og group at least)

limpid agate
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Ana, Reyes, Liao, Sojourn, Genji, Mei
Jack, Rein, Torb, Mercy, Cassidy, Tracer, Moira

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Reaper, Sombra, Doomfist
Widowmaker, Moira, Sigma

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Seems about even bothways

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Also almost every NPC for both factions is non white

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I included Liao because Echo is literally meant to be a standin for her

golden oak
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That’s why I said the OG (original) group

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And I wouldn’t count npcs since they’re insignificant to the story

limpid agate
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Some NPCs are more significant than characters

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But of that group

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Ana, Reyes, Liao (alive at the time), Sojourn
Jack, Rein, Torb, Cassidy

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Mercy was just as much a part of Overwatch as Pharah there

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And the crouching guy is an unknown

golden oak
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Oh I thought you meant people from those factions without names

limpid agate
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In Talon, NPCs like Sanjay and Mauga are more relevant than actual playable members like Sigma

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No I meant NPCs

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As in

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NPCs

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Non Playable Characters

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Liao is an NPC but Echo is playable as a stand-in for her

golden oak
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I also noticed every member of those groups has some counterparts in the other group that serves a similar role
Widow - Ana - sniper
Soldier - Reaper - main soldier/agent
Torb - Sombra - tech support
Mercy - Moira - medic
Winston - Sigma - scientist with hard to control power
Doomfist - Reinhardt- big guy

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Echo - Max - omnic

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Could be also Torb - Sanjay tbh

limpid agate
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Echo is not an omnic

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Some of those are a stretch

keen summit
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winston not to sigma

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doomfist and winston, both people doing something illigal for what the ybelieve to be a better future

golden oak
golden oak
opaque scroll
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kept in captivity..?

worthy rose
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Winston was a specimen at the Horizon Lunar Colony. Specifically specimen 28. Sigma was kept in captivity for a while after his experiment went wrong, but he was broken out by Talon

golden oak
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Yeah, you can even see his “room” on lunar colony map which is basically a cell
Same with Hammond but he was even kept in a cage like an actual hamster cage

opaque scroll
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ah

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thought you meant the present day / before recall

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and was very confused

fallen juniper
golden oak
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If rein has no armour doom wins I think

fallen juniper
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rein always has armor

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ram vs rein would be better though

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doom vs winston would be more fitting too

twilit patrol
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Reaper vs Cass would be f*...g crazy

sullen lynx
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HELLO PEOPLE

keen summit
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rein is strong but not can take a huge crater forming punch strong

cedar stump
peak escarp
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does she?

upbeat violet
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all I could find were voiceline interactions about aurora being her predecessor

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Echo: Dr. Liao was not fond of you.
Moira: Was she any fonder of you?
Echo: Of course. I was her life's work.
Moira: It seemed to me she was far more taken by your predecessor.

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Ramattra: It's a shame none of us have ever met Aurora, your predecessor.
Echo: I hear that often. ahem What would you have asked her?
Ramattra: The same thing I ask her everyday. I wish she could answer.

cedar stump
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Brigitte: Papa, is there anything you'd like to say to our teammates?
Torbjörn: I'm... looking forward to working with you.
Echo: Likewise.

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this voiceline occurs with brig, torb, and any omnic teammate

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besides bastion

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also torb is omnic racist

rare trail
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he used to be

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torb has gotten better with that

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like he literally adopted bastion

cedar stump
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he’s trying his best!

rare trail
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also echo isnt an omnic

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but the point still applies yea

cedar stump
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I was wrong about echo referring to herself as an omnic, but it seems like she is considered one by torb’s (society’s????) standards due to being a sentient robot

rare trail
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yeah

warped sparrow
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Is torb before he found bastion leader of omnjc kkk?

rare trail
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nah

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closest to leader of the omnic kkk would be like jq

peak escarp
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"omnic" is just a brand name robot

rare trail
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yeah

peak escarp
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so all omnics are robots, but not all robots are omnics

rare trail
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ram seems to refer to omnics as specifically sentient omnics and others are drones

limpid agate
echo tusk
cinder oak
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who’s the most powerful character in the lore

worthy rose
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Confirmed most powerful is likely Winston. For potential power, Symmetra and Sigma could be no. 1

terse shoal
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winton

fallen juniper
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more like bombs

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his rocket hammer would probably be close to the power of doomfists fist

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because they could both break or15 units with one strike

worthy rose
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Doomfist is significantly more mobile with his gauntlet though

fallen juniper
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rein is really fast with his rocket powered armor too

worthy rose
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Not to the level of Doomfist's mobility

fallen juniper
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not on his level though

worthy rose
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Yea

fallen juniper
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is he that fast in lore though? i dont remember seeing him do anything crazy like that in his cinematic

worthy rose
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No nothing over-the-top like in-game, but he's still overall more mobile than Reinhardt. Reinhardt is strictly ground-bound, but Doomfist can leap into the air and such

fallen juniper
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he can jump pretty high though too

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if he can then rein can

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he was also extremely weak at that time so he could probably jump even higher

worthy rose
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I think the jump seen here is exaggerated, but maybe they'd be able to jump higher than average via their jet boosters or something

peak escarp
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the jump is exaggerated so it should match Reinhardt's earthshatter highlight intro

fallen juniper
peak escarp
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actually no

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he doesn't jump in that one

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nevermind

fallen juniper
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it looks really weird when they use the rockets on their armor

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it just looks like they're sliding around

opaque scroll
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the crusader heelies

modest mango
#

they're pretty much just walking on sleds

#

or rather, I guess ice skates

#

The rockets on their armor are pretty close to starcraft's iirc

#

a lot of the purpose is just to get the damn suit moving forward from the weight

fluid tulip
#

when more moira lore stare

worthy rose
#

which comic book is about monkey?

keen summit
#

he is side character in a few

grand wedge
#

And has a side appearance in London Calling too

worthy rose
#

who is the most racist and homophobic character

fossil chasm
#

probably bastion. all those beeps could be racial slurs and we’d never know

ivory garnet
#

Junkers are

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Junkerqueen, Roadhog, and Junkrat

#

for the racist part

#

no one is showed homophobic

worthy rose
#

cassidy and ashe are probably homophobic

#

moira is like 100% homophobic

ivory garnet
#

dont see why Cassidy, Ashe, and Moira are homophobic

#

Cassidy is friends with Tracer

worthy rose
#

ok

#

but moira just give off that vibe

cedar stump
#

torb WAS the most racist but now it’s probably ramattra

modest mango
#

no

#

genocidal messiah

#

he wants to wipe humanity out pretty much so that the omnics can be free

#

he's a genocidal freedom fighter :p

#

they still are

#

Null Sector doesn't want to wipe all of humanity out (yet) but it does want to secure a nation for the Omnics and to do that some people are gonna die lol

merry token
grand wedge
#

Overwatch is an optimistic future. So what are you all on about???

#

There is racism toward omnics, but that’s it.

high light
#

is doomfist the boss of talon?

twilit patrol
upbeat violet
twilit patrol
#

I wouldn't say ''optimistic future''

#

How can we explain that ?

hollow tinsel
#

It's an "omnimistic" future

#

Get it

upbeat violet
#

wouldnt it be omnictistic

#

unless i got the joke wrong

twilit patrol
#

It would be omnicsticsticstic

hollow tinsel
#

😂

hallow shuttle
#

The Hopeful Future
as described in Loverwatch

peak escarp
#

the optimistic part is that, despite the war, there are still heroes fighting for a better future

#

you can have an optimistic outlook without everything being roses and unicorns

twilit patrol
#

Yeah but Overwatch still illegal

hallow shuttle
#

and never enforced as such because necessary

peak escarp
#

sometimes you have to break the law to do what's right

#

chaotic good mindset

silver tide
#

I thought they were neutral good

hallow shuttle
#

would you call moira neutral good

silver tide
#

No

worn thunder
peak escarp
#

Moira is more chaotic neutral imo

#

she doesn't care about good or evil, she just wants to do science

dense nebula
#

At the end of the day you could argue her experiements are to help humanity

#

But the way she goes about it is very chaotic

peak escarp
#

her experiments are to progress scientific advances

#

she doesn't give a shit about humanity

dense nebula
#

Fair enough

golden oak
worthy rose
#

3/5 party vc only

golden oak
#

I think it’s more about “improving” humanity and removing humanity’s limitations

fluid tulip
#

omg who said that

#

wtf

worn thunder
golden oak
worn thunder
#

What she's trying to accomplish can never come to fruition for that reason.

tame plover
#

Moira is just straight up Josef Mengele. Her experiments are horrifical and extremely unethical and produced little to no actually good results.

wind portal
#

I wouldn't say Moira's experiments lead to bad results in terms of science, but they are bad in terms of ethicality and morality

#

Reaper wouldn't be alive today if it weren't for Moira's advanced knowledge on genetics and science

tame plover
iron plume
hearty grotto
#

Is cabaret Luna alive

tame plover
#

no shot

zenith oyster
#

who is the strongest lore wise no biased opinion

#

give me top 3 obviously excluding sig

mighty mesa
zenith oyster
rare trail
zenith oyster
zenith oyster
limpid agate
rare trail
#

winston and orisa are both extremely durable and have beaten doomfist before

#

sym is basically green lantern without the willpower downside

hearty grotto
#

I mean is she sentient

like can she think her own thoughts and be her own person

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Or is she programmed to stand and sing all day

zenith oyster
rare trail
#

she basically is

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hardlight is extremely strong

worthy rose
#

Anyone else yell ult voicelines in the gym

#

Makes you LIFT MORE

#

Youonow

tame plover
#

not lore🤓

foggy cloak
#

Mercy lore W

mighty mesa
zenith oyster
zenith oyster
rare trail
#

why not

foggy cloak
zenith oyster
#

she’s so shit in lore

#

she’s just a car wash

rare trail
#

?

mighty mesa
foggy cloak
#

Idk it’s just true lol

wind portal
wind portal
peak escarp
#

that applies to every hero

limpid agate
#

And we dont know if Sigma would replace Orisa or not

#

The 4 contenders for strongest, contenders meaning that all 4 can potentially be #1 because we don't know, are:

  • Orisa
  • Winston
  • Symmetra
  • Sigma
wind portal
limpid agate
#

And if Sigma were to replace one of those 3

#

He would replace Doomfist

#

Because Doomfist isnt a contender for top 3

#

While Doomfist was incapable of doing anything to Orisa (and she's been upgraded twice since then) and he lost a fist fight to Winston (with the gauntlet too)

#

The only way Doomfist is top 3 is if he is stronger than both Sigma and Symmetra

wind portal
#

both Doomfist and Reaper were atleast capable of knocking out winston for a brief period, Doomfist seemed to do more damage based on their respective cinematics though

limpid agate
wind portal
#

Doomfist would've won that fight as well had it not been for winston's funny haha plot armor

limpid agate
#

There is nothing stopping her from just doing the Green Lantern classic against characters that are just brute force

#

And building a box around them

wind portal
#

we don't know the full capabilities of hardlight, we've mainly just seen it use for construction purposes in the lore

limpid agate
#

Yes, and that alone

#

Is enough

wind portal
#

the problem again is, I'd much rather go with accomplished feats, and we've already seen what Sigma and Doomfist are capable of (atleast in doom's case, Sigma's I can write off as an accident)

limpid agate
#

Like, let me build a case example based solely on just her construction feats. Symmetra can literally do this, while standing like 10 feet away and dancing, with a more durable material than whatever Fortnite wood is

#

And she does it faster

wind portal
#

none of them would be able to compete with Winston and Orisa's plot armor though

limpid agate
#

What the fuck is Doomfist gonna do if a wall gets built on all 4 sides around him

#

And then starts floating

rare trail
#

or like what if she build a cube and then just like makes it smaller and crushes him

wind portal
#

considering he's battled tracer, genji, and winston all at once, I'm positive he'd have a plan against Sym

limpid agate
#

Sure

rare trail
#

battling people and losing doesnt mean you're powerful

#

hes won against tracer and genji sure

wind portal
#

or let's ignore the hypotheticals here, there's also Reaper who can likely just ignore hardlight all together due to his abilities

limpid agate
#

Its less that Winston has plot armor and more that Winston is a mary sue

#

Also, Code of Violence proves that Reaper is much more mortal than he looks

rare trail
#

i dont think reaper can go through solid objects

limpid agate
#

He cant phase through solid objects

rare trail
#

so like sym builds a cube around him and crushes him

limpid agate
#

Even ignoring the crushing part

#

She just builds a cube and

#

What do you do

wind portal
#

there's also the whole case of assassination too

limpid agate
#

Punch through it slowly like he did his prison wall

#

Sure, he can do that

#

But its gonna take long enough that the fight is over

wind portal
#

We know Doomfist is capable as well, excluding the fact he's THE leader of talon

limpid agate
#

Yes, he is capable

#

He is potentially top 5 in strength

#

The only other variable is Ramattra

#

Who is an unknown

#

And Echo

#

Who is half unknown

wind portal
#

honestly I just can't wait for Ram to get expanded upon

#

we know he uses Nanites (or atleast implied?)

limpid agate
#

!!loreheroes ramattra

twilit nacelleBOT
#
limpid agate
#

Not sure

wind portal
#

Null Sector vs Talon civil war would be a cool thing that would probably never happen unless we get a Ram and Zen talk

peak escarp
#

the devs said he uses nanites in the dev update about him

limpid agate
#

Ok thanks

#

The only reference to it on the wiki was the old Egyptian version

peak escarp
#

there's the timestamp

cyan crypt
#

is it true Kiriko's mom is the best sword master who taught Genji and Hanzo how to use a sword?

peak escarp
#

yes

golden tendon
#

at the end of ashes cinematic cassidy gets echo out of her chamber and they have a slight interaction, are echo and cassidy a thing/ever were?

peak escarp
#

Cassidy was the bodyguard for Echo's creator, Dr. Liao

#

as a result, he and Echo spent a lot of time together

golden tendon
#

i was always confused they seemed flirty lol, but tyty

peak escarp
#

Cassidy is just a charming guy

golden tendon
#

real

peak escarp
#

Happy mother's day to all the named moms of Overwatch: Ana Amari, Ingrid Lindholm, Asa Yamagami, Martina Reyes, Fola Oladele
and honorary mention to the "mothers" of robots, Efi Oladele and Dr. Mina Liao

austere agate
#

ana is basically the mother of overwatch

limpid agate
#

No, just Ana

peak escarp
#

yeah we got the names of her extended family in the novel

#

Pharah's dad is named Sam

#

we saw him in the comic Reflections

#

well, the back of his head

#

yeah he's in a spray

#

how would that be Blizzard's fault?

#

people will do that regardless

#

that certainly hasn't stopped anyone

opaque scroll
#

Moira mentions a predecessor to echo in a voice line

#

what does she mean?

upbeat violet
#

Aurora

#

She was one of Liao’s other creations

#

Aurora transcended and gave omnics sentience

golden oak
peak escarp
#

Cassidy is not a fuckboy

golden oak
#

I’m just kidding

peak escarp
#

😠

vocal marsh
#

Lol

sonic vale
#

How heavy is Bob, assuming that he’s 7’1 and made of metal

#

genuine question btw

hollow tinsel
#

Bro wants us to do math 💀 do square mass of metal times square inch

#

I think. Im Just in 7th grade 😭

shadow marsh
#

He probably weighs more than Orisa

dark hemlock
peak escarp
#

They’d left the old utility truck they’d “borrowed” from the estate back in the brush, stripped of all registration markers, physical or digital. B.O.B. was a little more difficult to conceal, but he could move surprisingly lightly for two tons of metal, and there was no surveillance in this area to worry about.

#

there you go

dark hemlock
#

yes

twilit patrol
twilit patrol
#

Reaper is a fuckboy but not Cassidy

ivory garnet
#

dont see how either of them are

twilit patrol
#

Reaper is a killer

ivory garnet
#

both are/were

twilit patrol
#

Cassidy is a good guy ok

#

Reaper is a criminal

merry token
#

They’re both killers lol

keen summit
#

anyone in new ow is aswell

#

tf2 and ow are vastly different, sorry mate

#

that whole debate was stupid

wind portal
keen summit
#

theyre all criminals cuz overwatch is banned

#

and lucio already was for yknow stealing back the tech from vishkar

wind portal
#

define 'criminals' in this case, a criminal in the eyes of the law yes but I don't think the people would see new overwatch that way

keen summit
#

i know but thats what i meant, in the law theyre technically all criminals

#

and alot of people will see them as such

#

those who grew up with them getting banned and blamed

twilit patrol
#

Isn't the case for me but whatever

peak escarp
#

clearly nobody knows what a fuckboy is

twilit patrol
ivory garnet
wet kettle
#

What are all LGBTQ characters in overwatch

twilit patrol
#

Tracer is lesbian and Soldier is gay

#

That's all we know

wet kettle
#

I have heard that wifeleaver is pansexual

twilit patrol
#

Yes he is

#

I forgot that

keen summit
#

and bap is heavily implied being bi

hollow tinsel
#

Yeah, he got rizzed up by Lifeweaver

lavish vessel
lusty hawk
#

I thought that was a headcannon..

rare trail
#

yea soldier is gay

twilit patrol
lusty hawk
#

Didnt he have like a flirty interaction with ana in ow1?

iron plume
#

Not really

#

There's been one where Ana complimented his appearance and he, like
accepted it, but didn't reciprocate

#

Ana: For a man of your years, you're looking pretty good, Jack.
Soldier: 76: Well, all that stuff they pumped into me has to be good for something.

#

The others are them reminiscing or being like "yeah good that we're fighting together"

twilit patrol
#

Jack and Ana are just friends

iron plume
#

yea

lusty hawk
#

Oh Okay

#

And I have to ask, is there something going on about rein and ana?

twilit patrol
#

I hope not

lusty hawk
#

like rein talks to her in such a caring way and its said they danced in the base until morning or something

twilit patrol
#

They are friends and it's enough

lusty hawk
#

lol

twilit patrol
#

No I swear

#

I don't want a relationship between them

#

Even if they were a couple I don't think it would last long

#

Because I have feeling that Rein is gonna die

iron plume
#

That's almost certainly not happening

lusty hawk
#

Is watching the cinematics enough to know most of the story?

#

Cause I dont feel like reading all the books

iron plume
#

There are only three books and they're side stories

#

The others are comics and 12-ish page short stories

lusty hawk
#

Oh alr

iron plume
#

That said if you watch Recall and Zero Hour you're pretty set on the main story

twilit patrol
peak escarp
#

if you want the full story of the main plot, read these stories in this order

twilit patrol
iron plume
#

I don't see a reason for it

twilit patrol
#

Perhaps a sacrifice ?

iron plume
#

Not a reason for him to do it, a reason for the story to go that way

twilit patrol
#

I don't understand ?

#

Nobody won't die ?

iron plume
#

With the way the world and story is set up there is nothing killing off a hero will accomplish that can't be done without it

#

It's been discussed in this channel dozens of times before

peak escarp
#

I don't see the point in killing off a hero

iron plume
#

The only way I see them sending off a hero is if the (english) VA dies

#

It introduces a huge disconnect between the game and lore and needlessly cuts off potential stories with that hero in the future

#

If they want Rein to do a Big Glorious Sacrifice for the mission he can be injured and out of action for a long-ish time, the impact of the story itself will be similar

#

But it won't mean that you can't ever have Rein again in any mission or plot development in the future, unlike death

twilit patrol
#

It's complicated CubeHyperThink

peak escarp
#

if they were going to kill him off, I would expect some kind of hints leading up to it

#

not just out of the blue Reinhardt gets killed on a mission

untold steppe
#

i tried explaining to my brother that sigma has an infinite flying bug, i said, first get your ultimate and he called me a re-

upbeat violet
#

i don’t think this is the channel for that

untold steppe
#

oooooh, why am i in the lore channel

upbeat violet
untold steppe
#

i actually dk why am here but ok thanks for telling me so i didnt get banned

upbeat violet
#

i don’t think they ban you

#

just try to avoid misusing the channels

zenith mango
#

So are we guaranteed more cinematics? (Actually cinematics like alive and honor and glory)

vocal marsh
#

I mean we got a Kiriko one

#

So I assume so

grand wedge
peak escarp
#

yes there will be more cinematics

hollow tinsel
#

I hope they make a ramattra one 🙏

twilit patrol
#

I want a Lucio one

thorn niche
#

i dont think so

#

but ye you can see the wip of the sojourn one

#

or a still of it

lavish vessel
dense nebula
#

Ramattra better be expanded upon in lore

#

So many potential plot points with him

upbeat violet
#

i think there’s gonna be a story with hanzo and a null sector attack

#

hopefully more is expanded upon ram there

peak escarp
#

well Ramattra is leading Null Sector against Overwatch in the story, so it's almost impossible that we dont get more about him

dense nebula
#

I mainly still want a Civil War plot between Anubis and Ram

#

That is my ultimate story wish

peak escarp
#

I dont think Anubis will be relevant

#

he's already been dealt with

dense nebula
#

Bruh I could’ve sworn someone said Anubis was still out there

peak escarp
#

he was put back into quarantine by Pharah's team

hollow tinsel
dense nebula
#

A god AI in Egypt that started taking over omnics

#

Or at least I think he was a god AI

peak escarp
#

yes

#

Anubis caused the omnic crisis by taking control of omnics and attacking humans

hollow tinsel
#

Ohhh ok thanks 👍

zenith mango
#

How do you contain that

#

Like was he in a physical body

peak escarp
#

he was contained in a statue

zenith mango
#

Please elaborate

peak escarp
#

read the comic Mission Statement

#

Baptiste Zarya Pharah D.Va

zenith mango
#

What is new blood

upbeat violet
#

the group Cassidy formed in the New Blood comic

zenith mango
#

So Ana is officially done?

#

Also when did the new blood comics come out

peak escarp
#

November 2021 to March 2022

#

Ana is off with Jack on his quest for vengeance

zenith mango
#

Helping him or trying to stop him?

peak escarp
#

helping him

twilit patrol
#

Jack does want kill Sojourn ?

peak escarp
#

no

#

he just resents the fact that she testified against Overwatch during the UN hearings

zenith mango
#

Who’s Jack trying to get revenge on specifically

peak escarp
#

Talon/whoever blew up the Swiss HQ

zenith mango
#

What happens after the last new blood comic

#

Like where does that squad go

peak escarp
#

they go to Gibraltar to join up with Winston

upper wharf
#

Does JQ not want to fight Ramattra because he's sort of humane or something else

peak escarp
#

because she finds him gimmicky

upper wharf
#

Like him being a humanoid.. his morals of wanting to just protect his people..?

#

Kinda vague

fallen juniper
#

does it mean that all ravagers have abilities like ramattra

rare trail
#

ramattra doesnt have any abilities like nemesis in lore so yea

fallen juniper
#

he gotta have something for a boss fight man

rare trail
#

maybe we'll have to wait and see

peak escarp
willow orchid
#

Wow I just noticed sojourn was in the recall animatic

#

And an early ver of echo model too

sonic vale
#

Would 2.3 tonnes be a good estimate of how heavy BOB is?

fallen juniper
#

dont do my boy bob like that

#

he is not 4000+lbs

peak escarp
#

he's 2 tons

fallen juniper
#

where is this information

peak escarp
#

in Deadlock Rebels

#

They’d left the old utility truck they’d “borrowed” from the estate back in the brush, stripped of all registration markers, physical or digital. B.O.B. was a little more difficult to conceal, but he could move surprisingly lightly for two tons of metal, and there was no surveillance in this area to worry about.

#

that's US tons

#

so 1.8 metric tonnes

upbeat violet
#

i figured bob was heavy but not that heavy

peak escarp
#

he's a large metal robot

#

it makes sense that he'd weigh as much as a pickup truck

sonic vale
#

WOHOO

#

Thanks u so much lore warlord doctor six

fallen juniper
#

rein can stop a pickup truck at full speed.

#

how much does orisa weigh

peak escarp
#

probably the same

#

we don't have a description for her

fallen juniper
#

is fortify a lore thing or no

#

i assume yes

#

because how else would she not be destroyed by doomfist like the other or15s

ivory garnet
#

fortify is just her base form iirc

#

and she was destroyed as an Or-15

raven cloak
#

fortify was probably created by efi oladele to not get wrecked by doomfist

ivory garnet
#

its just her chasis

peak escarp
#

it's just planting her feet

#

so she can't be pushed

hollow tinsel
#

How funny would it be if in-game doom could still stun her while she's fortify 😂

peak escarp
#

Doomfist has lost to Orisa once already

tame plover
#

I love how the lore ties into the game. Like how reaper counters winston and orisan countering doom

hollow tinsel
#

They should make another doom fight scene cinematic

#

Like the one with genji, tracer and Winton

night falcon
#

Image how poetic it would be if genji made ram a good guy

tepid sinew
peak escarp
#

not possible

fossil chasm
#

use your imagination

peak escarp
#

no thanks

fallen juniper
ivory garnet
#

they were security bots

#

not assault bots

shadow marsh
#

Or14s are gnarly

#

Although there was no information how heavy the Idina Bots are, a single Or14 was able to kill a crusader by jumping on them.

keen summit
golden oak
#

That and also because hes a cyborg

#

Probably thinks he’s pretending to be omnic or something

worthy rose
#

Mercy ult solo with her BB gun

viscid flame
#

I don't think Rammatra hates him for being a cyborg at all, but more so he just doesn't trust him or his personality. One of his kill lines mentions "Your performative servitude sickens me" He likely doesn't believe Genji is genuine, and is otherwise not worth the time or "pity" Zen has spent to train him

#

I wouldn't even say its because of him being apart of a crime family, since Ram's interaction with Hanzo is pretty chill. Dude just does not like Genji on a very personal level

golden oak
fossil chasm
#

Do ram and zarya have lines? I assume so but I don’t know if I found them

golden oak
#

I think zarya says “one less deadly machine” when she kills him tho

fossil chasm
#

What lol that has to be an oversight. No way the most humanK omnic and the most omnicK human don’t have beef

golden oak
#

Wdym

fossil chasm
#

Ramattra is the most vehemently anti human of the omnics we see (without getting into the why that is). Zarya of course hates the lot

#

If nothing else you could have something where people like Zarya are the reason Ram is who he is

golden oak
#

Zarya changed tho

#

Besides all she was doing was protecting her country afaik

fossil chasm
#

She held pretty strong opinions about all omnics, said some gross stuff in Numbani about the two mixing

golden oak
#

Ram hates JQ for example who was killing omnics (actual sentient ones) for fun and not for valid reason

fossil chasm
#

Even her comic that one hacker didn’t seem to change her mind too much, maybe a little

fossil chasm
#

If a novel or something has fleshed her out since then I wouldn’t know

fossil chasm
#

Not terrible but not rosy

peak escarp
#

she does change her attitude by the end of the comic

zealous ermine
#

Where can I read all the lore cause I don’t know much yet lol

peak escarp
#

look in the pins

long talon
#

lore accurate genji would still get his shit kicked in by everyone on the roster

peak escarp
#

he's still a cyborg and a trained ninja

#

so he could beat people like Mei or Mercy or Moira

warped sparrow
#

If ball has a profanity filter dose that mean he said every slur known to man?

dense nebula
peak escarp
#

he's a pretty good ninja

warped seal
#

Cassidy vs Genji for mercy when

native helm
#

I want it to be reality...

#

Feral hampter

fallen juniper
#

rein definitely played doom

stiff sequoia
#

no new map in s5?

twilit patrol
#

?

#

Huh

#

Wait what ?

peak escarp
#

it's not listed on the roadmap

#

could just be an oversight

stiff sequoia
#

i hope so

#

we really need a new map atp

twilit patrol
#

We really need a new game mode

peak escarp
#

Flashpoint could be a new mode

worthy rose
#

Tbh, yeah. "Flashpoint" seems like an odd name for a map

twilit patrol
#

Maybe because I didn't notice a new game mode PvP in roadmap

rain shoal
#

why would Flashpoint be a map? S6 has a new hero though

peak escarp
#

nothing says it can't have both

#

season 2 had both

rain shoal
#

but wouldnt that mean S5 doesnt have a map and hero?

stiff sequoia
#

yeah s5 seems

#

empty asf

dim horizon
#

So PVE scaled back massively, talent tree system scrapped entirely and a handful of Archives-esque story missions on the horizon.

#

Not a good day for lore fans!

#

We'll get some morsels but not the feast we were hoping for, it seems.

digital forum
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We got training range+

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Hero mastery and firing range

worthy rose
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Bro I'm excited for it, I don't really care that the skill trees are gone

hallow shuttle
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yes indeed, ultimately it is what it is

cedar stump
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what’s the whole mischief magic thing? is it the theme of the bp next season or is it a event

worthy rose
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We don't know. It could possibly tie in to whatever "questwatch" is

cedar stump
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non-canon event, like starwatch?

merry token
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I need it to be an rpg

digital forum
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The font reminds me of the valentine's day event so

magic epoch
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how do yall feel about overwatch basically just throwing away the whole story

digital forum
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It might be a separate thing from overwatch

worthy rose
worthy rose
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PvE is still happening

cedar stump
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I liked retribution a lot, hope the new PvE missions are like it

worthy rose
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I will eat any and all PvE content raw, because I love the PvE in this game

magic epoch
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this greedy ass company

worthy rose
magic epoch
hallow shuttle
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don't repeat daft lies plz

worthy rose
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Because I never heard anything contradicting anything they've said in the past regarding what PvE we get

peak escarp
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the main campaign is all we're getting

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the hero missions/talents are what was scrapped, not the story missions

worthy rose
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Oh FUCK I must have overheard the hero missions.. those are gone as well?

peak escarp
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it literally says Story Missions on the roadmap

magic epoch
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they said they scrapped a main campaign, were instead gonna get short campaigns released

worthy rose
peak escarp
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they said they scrapped giving us the whole campaign at once, instead it will be released in parts over the seasons

digital forum
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What about the hero mastery missions (multiplayer) in later seasons?

peak escarp
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but it will still be one overarching story campaign

magic epoch
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theres no progression, no replayability, no skilltrees

worthy rose
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And I'm gonna eat it up

magic epoch
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itll basically just be starwatch

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released every other season

peak escarp
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they're adding player progression in a different way

digital forum
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dim horizon
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We're getting Archives-style event missions (implied multiple for the Season 6 launch); but no big campaign.

magic epoch
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thats probably it

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maybe weapon charms if were lucky

peak escarp
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we don't know the details yet

magic epoch
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yall cant defend blizzard with this one tbh

worthy rose
peak escarp
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the roadmap says "Player Progression System" in season 6

opaque tundra
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i like the fact that story mode is being released in parts. this channel will explode less and we can theorize and enjoy the story in an easily digestible manner

dim horizon
hallow shuttle
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not defending, just accepting futility

rare trail
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i wish starwatch was more pve

worthy rose
digital forum
rare trail
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and also like more of a gamemode its basically just 2cp with extra points

peak escarp
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they're also adding lore to the game as a sort of database or codex

opaque tundra
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sucks that i cant grind my zen to level 20 and kill everything with some overpowered snap kick talent but oh well. i see it as a worthy sacrifice to see him be animated for 10 minutes

peak escarp
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that you can unlock through missions

dim horizon
worthy rose
magic epoch
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a multi millionare company has to do work?

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unacceptable

rare trail
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i wish we got like a mission at all

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the most pve we've gotten is like junkenstein

worthy rose
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And I loved it

magic epoch
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theyve developed the pve for like 4 or 5 years at this point

opaque tundra
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i wish we got a new pve trailer

rare trail
worthy rose
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I literally don't care about all of this as long as the PvE releases at all

magic epoch
opaque tundra
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same. thank god story mode is still happening at all

worthy rose
rare trail
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i wish we got a pve mission against null sector

worthy rose
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My only requirement for PvE is that it isn't unfun

rare trail
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like didnt they have demos multiple years ago

worthy rose
rare trail
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and they had like skill trees or something

opaque tundra
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im super curious to see how different the rio mission is

digital forum
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I hope they kept the dynamic enemies

dim horizon
peak escarp
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did you even watch the stream?

rare trail
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junkenstein had some cool stuff

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like how coach gunning the robots into walls would stun them

worthy rose
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I do think they're keeping the unique enemy interactions

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Like the chain reactions we saw in some clips

dim horizon
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Not all story missions will be canon, worth mentioning. They made that clear; we'll get some canon missions with an overarching story, and other non-canon ones (which I'm guessing will be more like Starwatch; alternative themed worlds/settings, etc)

dim horizon
rare trail
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the talent tree seems very interesting

dim horizon
worthy rose
rare trail
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i really hope they keep it

dim horizon
dim horizon
worthy rose
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Yeah it's unfortunate

rare trail
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where did they confirm that?

worthy rose
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But I don't really mind

worthy rose
dim horizon