Talon, overwatch, some cowboy group or smth
#lore-discussion
past copper
To allow the world of Overwatch to grow beyond just two groups of good VS evil
ornate lichen
Why does hanzo get 2 dragons
peak escarp
for gameplay reasons
past copper
Bc ninja don't play fair
wind portal
she would've killed her if she didn't hesitate
past copper
FS Ana won't make that mistake with her again
viscid flame
The world is big place
wind portal
Ana is still the better shot even with one missing eye lmao
past copper
But she certainly did when she found Gabriel was alive
ornate lichen
Who's Gabriel
wind portal
Reaper
ornate lichen
Oh
past copper
Reaper formerly known as Gabriel Reyes. A former member of Overwatch
ornate lichen
Wasn't he good before
wind portal
Reyes is in his commander skin
wind portal
Wasn't he good before
yesn't
peak escarp
he was the original commander of Overwatch, and commander of the Blackwatch division
ornate lichen
What's Winston's role in the lore
past copper
He was Strike Commander of Overwatch during the First Omnic Crisis
ornate lichen
Big monke
past copper
Then became commander of Blackwatch. The secret part of Overwatch
ornate lichen
O
past copper
Winston was born and raised on the moon of the Horizon Lunar Colleny
wind portal
Blackwatch is essentially the dirty part of overwatch
past copper
But he left when the other apes took over the moon base. Unknowingly taking a little friend with him 🐹
ornate lichen
Is it true that he likes peanut butter?
peak escarp
yes
past copper
Yes
ornate lichen
That is adorable
past copper
Get that scanner outta here please
Scammer
Thx
Beyond that. Don't really have much lore on Winston
His joining of Overwatch is kinda...
past copper
Hmm. You probably wouldn't say that if you watch Recall, the cinematic, or Zero Hour
ornate lichen
Oh
past copper
Winston is more serious and kind of the defacto leader right now
ornate lichen
Why
past copper
Winston bout almost pulled a Capt America in Zero Hour
ornate lichen
He was so excited to hear that peanut butter joke from pharah 😭
ornate lichen
Winston bout almost pulled a Capt America in Zero Hour
What does that mean
dense nebula
You know; sometimes I feel like people forget Winston is an actual genetically modified silverback gorilla
past copper
What does that mean
I rather you watch Zero Hour and see
ornate lichen
That is why I love him
dense nebula
Have you seen a normal gorilla? Those fuckers are scary
ornate lichen
He can rip someone apart in a second but won't
ornate lichen
I rather you watch Zero Hour and see
Okie
past copper
He can rip someone apart in a second but won't
Eh. Watch the shorts with Winston before you say that or go ask Reaper
past copper
Lore is war hands down
ornate lichen
Doesn't tracer gets beaten up every single video
past copper
No. Only on Alive
past copper
That was more of. Close call with death but not really
ornate lichen
This
past copper
Her condition is kinda hard to explain
ornate lichen
The thing on her chest keeps her alive right?
past copper
It keeps her anchored to their time
ornate lichen
Ohh
past copper
But also allows her to control her own time
ornate lichen
Ohhhh I see I see
past copper
And she can take it off. As long as she's near it she'll be fine
ornate lichen
Also does bob count as omnic?
past copper
He is an omnic
ornate lichen
Oh
past copper
There's many different models
past copper
No
ornate lichen
I forgot name
warped latch
mondatta?
past copper
They call each other brother same as Buddhist monks
past copper
I highly recommend watching the shorts tho. They're all on YouTube
past copper
Who? You mean the Crusaders
past copper
They were an elite unit in Germany during the First Omnic Crisis
past copper
They're last battle was at the castle. As far as we know, Reinhardt is that last crusader
past copper
Tho, Brig kinda inherited his crusader lifestyle and her father's engineering to become his squire
And yes. Bastion is an omnic. His models were the infantry units in the Omnic Crisis who still attack Russia and Busan well after the war ended
ornate lichen
Ooooo
ornate lichen
And yes. Bastion is an omnic. His models were the infantry units in the Omnic Cr...
Bastion does too?
past copper
No. Bastion was damaged when the drop pod landed in Germany
He never saw any conflict and reactivation years later by chance
Since then, Bastion with his bird have traveled, loving nature until meeting Torbjorn
past copper
Torb took Bastion in and refitted it with upgrades
ornate lichen
Oh
rare trail
I wouldn’t think combat upgrades
past copper
What was once a Gen 1 Bastion unit has now become something new thanks to Torb
rare trail
I assume combat upgrades could be added when bastion joins overwatch
rare trail
I think the current upgrades are just like armor camera and stuff like that
past copper
No. Bastion were built for combat. Something Torb was once proud of before the Crisis
ornate lichen
Didn't brig give armor packs in ow1?
warped latch
uhh it was repair pack yeah
past copper
You could say Torb rebuilt Bastion to make up for his past mistake. Only, not for Bastion to be another weapon. But to be a hero
past copper
Similar to how Efi rebuilt Orisa to be the hero of Numbani. Torb rebuilt Bastion to be the hero of Gothenburg
warped latch
Why is widow blue
her heartrate is slowed down immensely
ornate lichen
Who's efi
ornate lichen
her heartrate is slowed down immensely
Why
warped latch
the 12 year old who rebuilt an OR15 unit to make Orisa
past copper
The littke girl genius who built Orisa to protect Numbani from Doomfist
past copper
Trust me. Efi being 12 is sadder than you think if you read Hero of Numbani
ornate lichen
What benefit
past copper
Moira enjoys experimenting on people. Just ask Reaper
warped latch
What benefit
she's a scientist working toward evolving humanity. widow is just one of her experiments under that goal
dont rlly have any other reason. she's just unethical in the way she's tryina make humanity stronger
thus: she is sorta silly
peak escarp
Widowmaker's heart rate was slowed to make her a better sniper
past copper
Basically Moira wants to enhance humanity through genetics, but her methods are inhumane
ornate lichen
Widowmaker's heart rate was slowed to make her a better sniper
How would that help
peak escarp
better aim? idk
past copper
Slow heart rate means steady breathing and less chance of missing a shot
warped latch
yuhh
past copper
Basically, you could argue her adrenaline is lower than the average human.
peak escarp
??
past copper
She froze herself alongside her team until they could get in contact with Overwatch
ornate lichen
Oh
past copper
But the cryochamber malfunctioned and didn't wake her up until 9 years later
ornate lichen
Ohh
past copper
Believe me. You might think the world of Overwatch is like a Saturday morning cartoon
But it has dark parts to it that shape the heroes
ornate lichen
I see
past copper
And not just that. The devs are figuring out how to make the story dark when Talon and Null Sector attack
ornate lichen
What's null sector
past copper
Ex. Doomfist intends to start a global war to kill off the weak so that the strong will rise from the ashes
Null Sector is the extremist group Ramattra started to free Omnics from human oppression
ornate lichen
Ohh
past copper
And make a better world for his people to survive in without fear of being killed
ornate lichen
Wait I didn't know doomfist was this messed up 😭
past copper
Yes. And he's using Null Sector to make his dream a reality
warped latch
supposedly, right? we don't know for certain what happened with the bargain since Doomfist got arrested?
past copper
All while he leads Talon to benefit from all the death and destruction
ornate lichen
How tf did they arrest doomfist
warped latch
p sure winston kicked his ass
peak escarp
Monke punch
ornate lichen
That makes me happy
peak escarp
past copper
Overwatch fought him after his secret meeting with Ramattra. Unfortunately, he broke out in Hero of Numbani
warped latch
https://youtu.be/vaZfZFNuOpI
god i rlly hope ovw does another origin story / cinematic in this style. it's so good
past copper
I really want an OW series in thus animation
warped latch
yeahh 😭 but i'll hope anyway. or make my own lol
past copper
Still no news on how that supposed deal between Blizzard and Netflix went
ornate lichen
https://youtu.be/vaZfZFNuOpI
Monke punch
Isn't doomfists gauntlet supposed to be really powerful
past copper
Tho, I wouldn't get my hopes up for a series until sometime after the story is integrated into the game
Doomfist as a whole is powerful bc of his numerous cybernetics
peak escarp
Still no news on how that supposed deal between Blizzard and Netflix went
I think that deal just meant that Netflix has the rights to a series, if they ever wanted to produce one
not that one was being produced
ornate lichen
Doomfist as a whole is powerful bc of his numerous cybernetics
Monke stronger?
past copper
Winston beat him once. That doesn't make him stronger
ornate lichen
Yes that's why I'm asking
peak escarp
Winston is stronger than Doomfist
past copper
And even after his cybernetics were stripped from him after his arrest, he broke down his prison cell with his bare hand
ornate lichen
Didn't genji cut open a gaint robot once
warped latch
i wonder if doom will ever clap back w stronger tech and become "unbeatable" until smth else rises up
maybe echo
past copper
Without question, Doom can easily train before he encounters Winston again
peak escarp
Winston would be stronger too
warped latch
^
past copper
Eh. But Winston isn't a fighter like most of his comrades tho
peak escarp
Winston on one of his first missions beat Doomfist at his peak
warped latch
he's. a tank 😭
peak escarp
I doubt the outcome would be any different if they rematched now
past copper
He got angry and Doom underestimated him
ornate lichen
How strong is ramattra
past copper
Doom knows he can learn from his failures. Something Winston, Efi, Orisa, and Lucio should all be wary of
warped latch
lore wise that'd be sigma i think?
ornate lichen
Sigma?
past copper
Sigma is probably strongest since he can control gravity around him
ornate lichen
That's unexpected
past copper
His power is on another level since he can create black holes
ornate lichen
Bruh
warped latch
yuhh so unless a gorilla's temper tantrum can surpass the power of gravity i think sigma takes the cake
past copper
If you can manipulate gravity, you possibly create a black hole
At least in miniature
peak escarp
theoretically, sure
but it was a miniscule black hole that damaged him in the first place
past copper
Tho, ironically, they say mini black hole is more dangerous
peak escarp
making more of those would be bad
past copper
True. But you want to explain that to the brain damaged meta human?
warped latch
ok real question what does 'meta' mean exactly. i hear it all the time but im not certain what we're talking abt
ornate lichen
I think its like
peak escarp
it has a bunch of different meanings
past copper
It's basically short for naming people with super powers
warped latch
it has a bunch of different meanings
ah. prolly why im confused lol
ill get it one day
shadow marsh
Just means that Winston single-handedly ended Doom with one punch at the end
peak escarp
when people are talking about the game, meta means "most effective tactic available" - it's considered to be the best way to play the game and some people follow that religiously
past copper
Regardless, the man says he's harnessed the harness
warped latch
ohh
shadow marsh
Just means that Winston single-handedly ended Doom with one punch at the end
This aims at the doomfist origin story video btw
past copper
Don't think he'd say that, especially with a controlled black hole in his hand
peak escarp
when talking about the lore, meta refers to factors outside the lore - for example, the meta reason for Hanzo to have two dragons is because they needed to fill the hitbox of his ultimate
peak escarp
this is what it looked like before they designed the dragons
peak escarp
functionally, it's just a bunch of spheres that move in a straight line causing damage to anyone they touch
for more info on the design origins of the game, watch this panel from 2017
https://youtu.be/UyhX85tjD-o
ornate lichen
What's the video where genji and hanzo are fighting
rare trail
Dragons
tall tartan
tulip jungle
just become a dps player
upbeat violet
I don’t think that’d go too well
Unless winton got brainwashed it wouldn’t work long term
quiet rune
but it was a miniscule black hole that damaged him in the first place
Isnt it like: the smaller the black hole = the more powerful?
fresh rock
So proud of you son.
ornate lichen
Ty :3
worthy rose
Moira working w Winston, ideal world
Nah they work on separate fields
tranquil walrus
B
worn thunder
They're decently similar anyway, being cast out by their colleagues. Except Winston decided to be good boi and Moira not so much. I think it's understandable in moira's case tbh.
rare trail
theres a lot of really good engineers in the overwatch cast
upbeat violet
yeah
upbeat violet
I think he’s more of an strategist
rare trail
bri dva jq junkrat mercy torb winston are all really good engineers
upbeat violet
efi too
upbeat violet
I think Zaryas up there too
upbeat violet
oh not zarya I got it mixed up
rare trail
oh yeah wrecking ball is a really good engineer too
rare trail
idk
rare trail
sym is probably good
upbeat violet
bio light
rare trail
she is like an architect
rare trail
lifeweaver mgiht have learned some in the program
upbeat violet
sombra built her translocator right?
rain shoal
but wasnt there an interaction in OW1 that suggests that she may have stolen it from overwatch?
vocal marsh
Sombras tech is originally from Tracers chronal accelerator
fossil chasm
it’s canon that sym stole her teleporter technology from dell conagher
vocal marsh
But yeah I think she modified it
worthy rose
oh my god more sym lore
I need to now tell my friend that she robbed people now
this is epic
warped latch
Ramattra is an engineer
twilit patrol
Yes please give more sym lore
worthy rose
exactly
snatched from her family
help kinda enslave parts of brazil
slays in heels
its really just all good
rare trail
Ramattra is an engineer
he is?
what has he designed/built?
i dont remember his story talking about him designing the drones
ivory garnet
Ramattra is a leader
warped latch
he is?
I would guess he designed most of the null sector troops, especially considering their visual differences now vs from the uprising in kings row. Also he has an interaction with Hammond where he calls himself as such, saying “from one engineer to another…”
rare trail
I would guess he designed most of the null sector troops, especially considering...
“You think you(ramattra) can design better soldiers than Anubis?”- from the ramattra short story yeah you're right he designed the null sector drones
warped latch
ye
twilit patrol
He can yes
upbeat violet
waiting for the day mauga becomes real
white cairn
Fun fact: ana is 6’0 tall
viscid flame
I think Moira is supposed to be over 6 foot as well
worthy rose
Moira is 6'5
upbeat violet
Fun fact: ana is 6’0 tall
yeah i think that's a pretty common fact
white cairn
Yeah and she does not look 6’0 at all ingame lol
But dayum moira is 6’5?
Das crazy
upbeat violet
Yeah and she does not look 6’0 at all ingame lol
i think sh's supposed to be slouched
with really bad posture
last cave
How tall is widow?
merry bison
okay lore wise can someone help me understand mercy and pharahs relationship? im a bit confused
white cairn
How tall is widow?
5’9
peak escarp
okay lore wise can someone help me understand mercy and pharahs relationship? im...
they're friends
upbeat violet
why do people ship them?
peak escarp
because they both fly
upbeat violet
crazy
rare trail
synergy in game ig
upbeat violet
well thats one reason to ship two characters
peak escarp
the Hanzo and Cassidy ship started because they were the first two young male heroes revealed in 2015
peak escarp
that one is the devs fault
upbeat violet
really?
peak escarp
someone asked the devs if Mercy would ever date them, the devs said "sorry her heart belongs to Roadhog" or something like that
dreamy onyx
people will ship anything
people shipped Bob and zen
austere agate
in the infiltration cinematic couldn’t widow see what sombra was doing with her infared?
past copper
Her inferred is different from the game
She can lock onto a designated target
But as far as we've seen, we don't know if she can see Sombra or not
Just saying bc Sombra would probably figure out a way to hide from such tech
That's just a guess tho
Even so. It wouldn't really have mattered since Reaper already took precautions with Sombra
slate haven
lore fact: lifeweaver sniffs his hand after scratching his ass 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
peak escarp
!!shitposting @slate haven
twilit nacelleBOT
@slate haven Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
ornate lichen
lore fact: lifeweaver sniffs his hand after scratching his ass 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩�...
😭
Did not need to know that
slate haven
absolutely needed to know very crucial to lore
worthy rose
ana canonically wrestled reaper to the ground
I'm sure Reaper held back
Makes no sense that an old lady can beat a super soldier
fallen juniper
she actually tackles him and beats his ass
wind portal
Jack likely has the same strength as Reaper
ivory garnet
Jack likely has the same strength as Reaper
Physical Strength? Sure, but that wont really affect Reaper
We see Reaper already almost kill Jack
viscid flame
It mostly comes down to who has the drop on the other
They're all pretty equally matched in not just experience but knowledge of how the others behave and fight like
rare trail
I think reaper would’ve easily killed both Ana and jack
I think because Ana was there he left
wind portal
sociopathic tendencies more than likely make up for most of the reason why reaper wants to kill
ivory garnet
how do ana and jack know reapers true identity
Ana saw Reyes
thats when they first found out who Reaper is
collateral
its also for Talon gain
he doesnt hate everyone in Overwatch and former Overwatch
he really only hates Jack/Soldier
but its his mission to kill all of Overwatch
and former members
austere agate
has he successfully killed anyone tho
I can’t believe he tried to kill the monkey what could he have done to deserve that
shadow marsh
L Reaper
ivory garnet
has he successfully killed anyone tho
non-named members yes
He’ll most likely come into Symmetra’s upcoming short story
as the description says in the lines of “Goes to meet former Vishkar asset”
it gets in depth at some points
their main strong suit is backgrounds
main story will be PvE
backgrounds and side stories will continue as novels, comics, and short stories
maybe even cinematics
they confirmed its 2023
most likely late
I dont think they’ll have to delay it again
I have no problem if we have to wait this year, aslong as it deliveres
delivers*
errant dew
is ana just phara from the future?
swift mason
Pharah is Ana's daughter
errant dew
Are you sure? I don't buy it.
swift mason
...if you're here to troll just take it to another channel
golden oak
Do we know who is current Shambali leader
arctic grove
Pharah is Ana's daughter
wait actually
upbeat violet
was it not obvious enough
modern pond
is ana just phara from the future?
what
limpid agate
Do we know who is current Shambali leader
No.
golden oak
And why isn’t it zen
limpid agate
Because he quit
We dont know any current members of the Shambali order
We only know former ones
Former because they left the order (Ram, Zen) or because they just died (Mondatta)
golden oak
That’s lame
willow prism
I need to know, how does moira canonically control the biotic grasp? I've been told it's just poison gas, but even then--how could she control poison gas?
[Referring to her experimented purple pigment hand].
rotund obsidian
Do u guys think junkrat will join overwtach?
golden oak
He’s a terrorist
rain shoal
i highly doubt that they would let a criminal join them but i mean they also are criminals too cuz of the petras act i guess but considering there might not be another answer to null sector it might not be enforced
rotund obsidian
He has a lot of positive interactions with other characters compared to let’s say Moira
He’s also willing to change to join
peak escarp
Junkrat won't join Overwatch
twilit patrol
upbeat violet
yeah
i their reputation is bad enough as is
as much as junk is willing to change
peak escarp
why would Junk be willing to change?
upbeat violet
He’s also willing to change to join
right here
late sigil
Which hero has the deepest lore?
peak escarp
I don't know about deepest, but Reaper, Soldier and Tracer all have the most lore
while Hanzo, Lucio, Wrecking Ball and Zenyatta have the least
grave fox
hanzo>genji
upbeat violet
winton
rotund obsidian
He has a few voiceline which say he wants to get into overwatch
ivory garnet
he is in overwatch
limpid agate
He's the current leader
peak escarp
I think they mean Junkrat, we were talking about him earlier
just because he says he wants to join Overwatch doesn't mean he's willing to change his ways
or that Overwatch would accept him
limpid agate
I thought they were talking about Winston
upbeat violet
do you guys think we'll get more characters added on with pve
wind portal
maybe some npcs and more info on max
twilit patrol
do you guys think we'll get more characters added on with pve
Yes without doubt i think
wind portal
I don't think we'll get any 'new' characters with potential to be added to the game
fathom canyon
wait so will the PvE be a fully complete thing or something they will add onto overtime
wind portal
it better all be there at launch otherwise a lot of people won't be invested in it as much
"hey guys we're going to update the pve over time for now here's literally one part." like no you can't do tha
upbeat violet
i think they should release it by chapters
with maybe 5 chapters added at a time
itd be great
ivory garnet
"hey guys we're going to update the pve over time for now here's literally one p...
thats literally how they should do it lol
worthy rose
I doubt we're gonna get the entire PvE at once, but I assume we will get a decent chunk to start
ivory garnet
its how u keep it alive
upbeat violet
^
worthy rose
You get people to play the missions available, then you hype up the next set. It's like the battle pass seasons
upbeat violet
idk how itd turn out long term though
they have to divide their attention between pvp and pve
fathom canyon
I just hope it isn't repetetive
wind portal
thats literally how they should do it lol
It's the same issue as Nintendo's free update shtick, except you're promising even more content that's not all in there at launch
upbeat violet
im fine with them adding it by parts if the missions have replay value
wind portal
and what if something happens between then and the next pve chapter releasing, we'd be waiting even longer instead of just having most if not all of the content there at launch
worthy rose
Tbh I don't mind if they don't have much replay value since I am very tolerant with repetitive gameplay ngl
I mean, I enjoyed Junkenstein every single time it was there
wind portal
I hate repetitive gameplay but I can tolerate it lol
upbeat violet
and what if something happens between then and the next pve chapter releasing, w...
honestly
it'd be weird for them to do that
like objectively
the competitive scene is based around pvp
there's no owl for pve
upbeat violet
itd be odd for them to focus on pve like that
wind portal
they hyped up this PvE far more than they hyped up anything comptitively so far
upbeat violet
did they?
worthy rose
Yeah they kind of marketed OW2 with PvE in mind
upbeat violet
i didnt know that
ive seen the trailers and teasers but it didnt seem like they were hyping it up like that
wind portal
I mean, you got a bunch of cinematics in production just for the PvE and a lot of characters being added when they were just pve exclusive like Sojourn, the only time we heard her voice in OW1 was during the rising storm cinematic
so they would shoot themselves in the foot for not releasing most if not all of the pve content at launch
upbeat violet
yeah but if they released all of that at launch theyd have less to hype up
its kind of hit or miss
if a handful of the content is buggy or doesnt work as planned theyd have to remake it
it happened with lifeweaver too
wind portal
well they can hotfix pve like what they did to lifeweaver
upbeat violet
he's getting a pseudo-rework now
yeah but in the time theyre pseudo reworking lifeweaver they could focus on other characters
like hog who's in a really bad state
i suspect the same would happen with pve
instead of focusing on launching new content theyd be stuck fixing the one released before
wind portal
they shouldn't have even nerfed hog in the first place but this channel isn't the place for that
upbeat violet
yeah
i personally believe hog deserves more of a rework
something he's not getting anytime soon because rarely anyone uses him to win in the higher placements
and lifeweaver is a bigger letdown due to being like that on launch
and using that situation as an example is why i think releasing so much content on pve launch could easily backfire
fallen juniper
lucio loves his mom since his next concert is on mothers day
fathom canyon
lucio loves his mom since his next concert is on mothers day
king shit right there
peak escarp
"hey guys we're going to update the pve over time for now here's literally one p...
that's literally how a live service game works
fallen juniper
they have to divide their attention between pvp and pve
they have different teams working on both id assume
upbeat violet
yeah no but i mean it'd take way more work if they launched most of the content at once
instead of doing it over time
fallen juniper
you guys got any theories on what might happen in pve
peak escarp
it's better to get new missions every season
fallen juniper
3-5 missions per season would be great in my opinion
upbeat violet
yeah
elfin cedar
it's better to get new missions every season
How u got that type of shield
peak escarp
what
worthy rose
I'm assuming they mean the badge for your subreddit mod role
peak escarp
oh
fallen juniper
we already seen one of the character selections for one of the missions
upbeat violet
oo
fallen juniper
and wtf does brigitte have on her head
maybe an early ow2 design
but it looks like the thing on reins helmet
twilit patrol
!!loreonly
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golden oak
Its on her Winter Wonderland epic from this past year
Yeah but she has white hair in that skin
I feel like that could be actually early ow2 design because her 2D portrait was actually changed few times
limpid agate
Yeah but she has white hair in that skin
No, I mean
The crown
The crown is literally on her WW epic
It was probably part of her base design at one point, but they went back on it
golden oak
She did have a small tiara in her ow1 design
fallen juniper
ramattra boss fight gonna be crazy in pve
knowing ow and how they're releasing missions that probably won't be a thing till next year
golden oak
There’s rumours it will be season 6
dawn plover
@dense escarp
grim sluice
how do we know lifeweaver is 
?
vocal marsh
I think it was explicitly said
idle finch
how do we know lifeweaver is <:gayge:994251721469599824> ?
A dev said it in one of the videos detailing his release
shadow marsh
ramattra boss fight gonna be crazy in pve
Really excited for this one. Looking forward to how much Rammattra differs from the playable one to the boss fight. Like the saying of the Boss when you fight him vs the Boss when he's playable trope
fallen juniper
Really excited for this one. Looking forward to how much Rammattra differs from ...
i wonder who the playable characters would be in that
i assume reinhardt would be the tank since who else would it be
shadow marsh
And Zarya
fallen juniper
i hope during boss fights they all exchange dialogue including the boss
do you guys think a sigma boss fight will be a thing?
this video actually gives a lot of implications like mei will be working with sigma at one point in the pve https://youtu.be/7QjFVubUIYE
shadow marsh
It's a high possibility considering Null Sector isn't the only enemy in pve
fallen juniper
this video actually gives a lot of implications like mei will be working with si...
this has every single hero including unexpected ones like kiriko and wrecking ball, doomfist, which might mean we could get missions as talon
viscid flame
The archives missions had the option to play as any of the heroes instead of the canonical lineup for the story. This could also just mean, they are maintaining that option for the PVE
A Sigma PVE boss battle should be almost certain, with how much the idea is talked about in the playerbase, the developers would have to be intentionally ignoring the interest, and choosing not to make a mission/write a reason
But we are talking about blizzard so its kind of hard to say
peak escarp
the revive voice lines don't indicate who will be in the story missions
because every hero needs revive lines for Hero Missions
some heroes have specific lines for other heroes, like how some heroes have Mercy-specific revive lines, even though they've never been in a PvE mission with her
fossil chasm
this video actually gives a lot of implications like mei will be working with si...
“the british one needs help” lmao
fallen juniper
my favorite one is soldier "ughh I have to save reyes?!"
fallen juniper
The archives missions had the option to play as any of the heroes instead of the...
it just doesn't make sense to me why mei would have a line with sigma
has to mean something
hollow tinsel
it just doesn't make sense to me why mei would have a line with sigma
You gotta point
hollow tinsel
I guess
worthy rose
Hi
I wonder if sigma had a conetion with Moira and if they lost there minds together/become bad guys
wind portal
there's no real connection between Sigma and Moira really
wind portal
Sigma isn't 'bad' he's just being held captive by talon
iron plume
And moira didn't really "become" bad, she was always pretty much like this
twilit patrol
Moira has always bad ?
iron plume
She was always amoral, that didn't change
She worked for the "good side" because Blackwatch gave her resources to do her thing
Then it stopped and Talon stepped in, so she works for Talon
peak escarp
the connection between Moira and Sigma is that she does tests on him (and maybe works with him in his lab?)
green falcon
is bap homosexual?
worthy rose
bap is a medic
peak escarp
he flirts back when Lifeweaver flirts with him
Bap also has flirty lines with other heroes, both male and female
green falcon
Bap also has flirty lines with other heroes, both male and female
thats what i mean
languid badger
in other words he could be gay or not
peak escarp
correct
twilit patrol
twilit patrol
peak escarp
??
twilit patrol
Nothing
languid badger
that's what i thought
sorry i have personality disorder, that was Jake typing. My mean personality
green falcon
sorry i have personality disorder, that was Jake typing. My mean personality
Troll dude
Like seriously Cmone
green falcon
Apologies NOW and I will consider your apology otherwise I can not stand for my actions
green falcon
Don't worry, i won't go easy on you
You seem to have underestimated me hehe (evil protagonists laughter echoes as his glasses glair) you will regret this
twilit patrol
!!loreonly
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languid badger
You seem to have underestimated me hehe (evil protagonists laughter echoes as hi...
Hahahah come at me with your full strength (smirks as he’s violently stroking his hair)
green falcon
Hahahah come at me with your full strength (smirks as he’s violently stroking hi...
Goku charges
daring saffron
Now stop the roleplay
languid badger
Sorry papa
daring saffron
!!loreonly
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languid badger
jake disappears
green falcon
Now stop the roleplay
hits the griddy in to the sunrise
limpid agate
On a more relevant note
Starwatch is in two days
So we should be getting a comic tomorrow
twilit patrol
peak escarp
hope so
dense nebula
Wonder how big the story will be
upbeat violet
Probably until the game dies or Blizzard stops gaining profit from lore due to clear disinterest
austere agate
what are the odds of someone being killed off in the pve
I feel like they wouldn’t do that to a playable character
lofty egret
Imagine
last hawk
😋
cerulean knot
who is doom talking about when he says "HER" to genji in the one voice line
austere agate
kirikos mom
she trained kiriko genji and hanzo and is supposedly the best swordsman in the world
or would it be swordswoman
cerulean knot
no im the best swordsman iun the world when im on genji
zenith mango
Can someone give me the sigma over iew
Overview
He has a disturbing short story
And I want to k ow everything that happened to him
hollow tinsel
Can someone give me the sigma over iew
My chatbot AI on snapchat asked the same question wait I got a pic of me explaining
I'll DM you
limpid agate
Can someone give me the sigma over iew
!!loreheroes sigma
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vapid sluice
Where can I watch lores??
hollow tinsel
Where can I watch lores??
YouTube
mint garnet
Eat
hollow tinsel
Eat what
idle veldt
!!loreheroes mei
limpid agate
!!loreheroes mei
!!loreheroes mei
twilit nacelleBOT
To learn more, please visit https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/mei#story
limpid agate
Here
upbeat violet
Why can only some people do that
id assume it’s because they don’t want people spamming it
grand wedge
Also does sigma have multiple personalities?
No.
ornate lichen
What is doomfists fist made out of
dense nebula
Probably steel or an Aluminum/steel hyrbid so it’s not as heavy to wield
Or since he’s using his cybernetic arm it could be made out of Titanium
sly kettle
Oh gotcha.. that’s what I figured
grand wedge
It’s so cool to have a game mode tied with a comic, it’s been so long
rare trail
i wonder how starwatch will be integrated into regular lore
like junkenstein is canonically a story that people tell like a myth
peak escarp
could be a movie that exists in-universe
hollow tinsel
could be a movie that exists in-universe
Yeah like the movie poster in oasis and Hollywood of Dva as the star role
dense nebula
could be a movie that exists in-universe
If we go by this literally, would it be an awkward cough moment that Doomfist of all people is playing a rebel freedom fighter?
peak escarp
the characters in the movie aren't literally the heroes playing them
they just look like them
like in Junkenstein - Reinhardt has never even met Junkrat and Roadhog, how could he tell a story about them?
dense nebula
Hence why I said if we go by it literally
idle finch
this should be the movie they asked winston to be in
dense nebula
Would be cool if they did something animated or voiced for it the Doomfist character would be voiced by Terry Crews
upbeat violet
I don’t think terry crews can put up with dooms accent
upbeat violet
a hypothetical animation or voicing where doomfist is included and terry crews possible voice cast for it
this said animation would be lore related
or at the very least an au
warped cargo
@burnt snow @white wolf is looking for you
rare trail
i dont think thats really lore related
dense nebula
a hypothetical animation or voicing where doomfist is included and terry crews p...
I meant as the character Doom got as a skin for Starwatch
Not Doom himself
upbeat violet
I see
zenith zinc
does Rammatra have a British accent bc he was manufactured in King's Row?
dense nebula
He was manufactured in Antarctica to my knowledge
zenith zinc
oh ty
fickle temple
Who's the most powerful hero in the lore?
twilit patrol
Winston
fickle temple
I'm assuming it falls to either Sigma Ramattra Winston or Orisa
twilit patrol
This is my opinion
worthy rose
Winston is thus far the confirmed strongest, but speculatively Sigma and Symmetra could potentially be the strongest
fickle temple
Winston is a genetically modified gorilla with genius intellect, who can actively out to achieve a level of peak potential gorilla physique
worthy rose
Winston is very strong, yes
fickle temple
I say Orisa because isn't she basically built to counter Doomfist?
And was able to fend him off
worthy rose
Yes, Orisa is also very strong, but Winston also beats Doomfist
If anything it'd be a tie between Winston and Orisa, but for now, I believe Winston is the strongest confirmed
fickle temple
Ramattra is more of an honorable mention since he is basically a Special Ops Commander who while he did drop his munitions
There is his whole Nemesis Form thing
Although there's not enough lore to confirm his strength atm
Winston and Orisa deffo seem to be the strongest though
worthy rose
For Ramattra, Nemesis form is not confirmed to exist in lore, but he would probably be up there in terms of strength if he canonically has it. Instead of raw power though, he's likely one of the strongest in terms of tactical abilities ngl
fallen juniper
Winston and Orisa deffo seem to be the strongest though
would reinhardt be able to beat orisa
worthy rose
I don't think he would, since he was beat by an OR14 during the Omnic Crisis, the predecessor to OR15s, and Orisa is made from parts of OR15s. Though it could also just be because Reinhardt was being careless that one time
fallen juniper
i think ramattra and rein would be a fair fight
wasn't orisa specifically made to fight off ravagers (the type of model ramattra is)
worthy rose
Orisa was built to defeat Doomfist
fallen juniper
I know that but I thought I saw that she was also able to fight off ravagers
fickle temple
Well I mean yeah if she can beat Doomfist I doubt ravagers are a major issue
However if Ramattra has Nemesis Form in lore he'd be a lot harder to deal with than your standard Ravager
worthy rose
It's unknown how it works since it hasn't been confirmed to exist in lore
worthy rose
Yeah maybe nanites, but it's not canon right now that's for sure
fickle temple
When PvE comes out maybe we'll find out
worthy rose
Possibly
fickle temple
I don't see why his Nemesis Form wouldn't be canon ngl
Maybe besides the explanation for it
He almost got Zenyatta killed at some point didn't he?
worthy rose
I like to believe it's canon, but if there's no usage of it in canon then we can't be sure
fickle temple
If there's any explanation behind that then it'd be his Nemesis Form I'd assume
fallen juniper
who do you think we would be playing as in a fight against ramattra in pve
fallen juniper
one of the hero rosters for a mission is torb bastion rein brig
fallen juniper
do we?
upbeat violet
I’ve seen it sent here
fallen juniper
there was also a leaked cutscene of doomfist and orisa supposedly
worthy rose
we also see a sneak with Genji and Zen right?
Yeah a work-in-progress for a cinematic where Widowmaker, Sombra, and a squad of Talon troopers attack Genji and Zenyatta
fallen juniper
i don't know if this is real though
twilit patrol
i don't know if this is real though
Wtf this is awesome
I don't know if it's real but this look fire
fallen juniper
looks pretty real
upbeat violet
it might be half forged
fickle temple
Cool idea for a PvE mission could be Mauga Baptiste Sombra and Reaper
If Mauga ever becomes a character
upbeat violet
a sombra and sigma mission could be cool
fallen juniper
if the text is real though i like how she understands what he's trying to do with humanity
not just treating him like a regular evil dude
opaque tundra
i don't know if this is real though
I’m pretty sure those were confirmed to be fake
They look fake too
rare trail
Cool idea for a PvE mission could be Mauga Baptiste Sombra and Reaper
sombra and reaper probably wouldnt be with the lower people like mauga and bap
fickle temple
sombra and reaper probably wouldnt be with the lower people like mauga and bap
In the past Sombra Mauga and Bap were all friends
rare trail
when is that shown?
fickle temple
It's shown somewhere
Hol up
Actually I don't think it's all three of them
But back when Baptiste was in Talon he was friends with both Mauga and Sombra
fickle temple
why do you think that
Developer Q&A said he and Sombra used to be friends during Talon
If you go onto the OW wiki it has all the citations
rare trail
ow wiki isnt a great source
fickle temple
Not by itself but it does have citations linked
fickle temple
Couldn't think of who else would work for a Talon thing
Cause there aren't any other talon associated DPS
rare trail
yeah
widow
if there were a talon mission i would expect doomfist sombra widow reaper moira
upbeat violet
arent sombra and sigma kind of friends though
i'd get if talon wouldnt want to bring him on a mission but what abt sombra
rare trail
sombra and sigma have voicelines together yea
sombra has been on some missions though
i believe she was on the sigma was as shown in his video
yea
and she was there for the infiltration short
upbeat violet
i meant like
sombra bringing sigma on a missino
or atleast convincing talon to do so
rare trail
i doubt that would happen
sigma is a very important asset and hes just a scientist
i doubt talon would want to risk him
peak escarp
i don't know if this is real though
it's fake
upbeat violet
i doubt talon would want to risk him
yeah i understand this
but what about a mission where the talon site where they hold sigma is being raided by overwatch
probably unlikely
wet kettle
Is overwatch in the same universe as wow
rare trail
no
wet kettle
Are any blizzard games connected
lapis epoch
Sigma has the largest feet
rare trail
Are any blizzard games connected
no
heroes of the storm has overwatch heroes in it
but its not canon
fallen juniper
torb is canonically a dwarf in wow
wet kettle
Also in what year is ow in
upbeat violet
2077 i believe
wet kettle
I mean it is pretty realistic for 2077
twilit patrol
I think OW2 will take place in 2078
sonic vale
How many soldiers were also genetically enhanced along with soldier and reaper?
wind portal
I think they might be the only two or the others are just unknown
sonic vale
Unlikely because Soldier is number 76 and Reaper is number 24. There had to have been quite a lot of them
rare trail
i thought the others died
wind portal
they might've been killed off when the overwatch base blew up
wind portal
I believe some of them were caught in the explosion as well, atleast implied by Soldier
sonic vale
So is soldier: 69 deceased
rare trail
probably
sonic vale
😭
rare trail
So is soldier: 69 deceased
“What was … that like?” Chase asks tentatively. “I heard that hundreds of soldiers volunteered.”
“Most of them died,” Jack says
so yes they died
confirmed by the sojourn novel
peak escarp
as far as we know, Morrison and Reyes are the only two SEP subjects who survived the crisis
wind portal
“What was … that like?” Chase asks tentatively. “I heard that hundreds of soldie...
Most of them being dead is the keyword here, there are probably either just Reaper and Soldier or a few more that we've never seen
but I doubt there'd be more than like, 5 super soldiers max
unless they somehow make Mauga one
upbeat violet
i doubt they’d risk a soldier like mauga to an operation like that
most of the experiments usually end up bad
reaper is constantly in pain and sigma is unstable mentally
rare trail
reaper isnt constantly in pain because of sep
sigma never went through sep
sep works well for the people who actually like completed it
soldier is doing well
upbeat violet
yeah i mean as experiments in general
but i see your point
i just doubt they’d make mauga a super soldier
rare trail
yeah
upbeat violet
at least not in the same way reaper and soldier were
rare trail
mauga is cybernetically enhanced iirc
upbeat violet
really?
peak escarp
he may have cybernetics now, after being blown up by Baptiste, but we haven't seen him since then so we don't know
peak escarp
upbeat violet
thanks
peak escarp
"Believed to be the products of extensive genetic engineering, these elite troopers employ an extremely powerful exoskeleton and stimulants to increase their combat effectiveness."
since Mauga is a Talon Heavy Assault, I figured this statement would apply to him
these documents are part of the evidence that suggests Moira was already working for Talon behind the scenes, as their genetic engineer
upbeat violet
what category would reaper fall upon?
wind portal
I just want Mauga to be a tank already tbh
With baptiste being a major part of overwatch now and all
limpid agate
He's probably the season 8 hero
prime tusk
That would be so cool
wet kettle
What is junkrat's bounty
ivory garnet
25m iirc
languid dagger
yo whats lifeweaver 's lore ,does he even have one
cosmic lagoon
is liking femboys gay
worthy rose
Lore actuate
astral rain
how does sigma and mercy know each other? just heard their voicelines and it made me wonder
astral rain
ohh thats trueb
earnest ore
winton 😍
midnight python
is liking femboys gay
Dude.... He just like me fr...
minor sigil
Did hanzo kill genji?
worthy rose
Almost
worthy rose
winston<winton
What?
worthy rose
Did hanzo kill genji?
No he only thought he did. Genji is still alive
zenith mango
Monke>monkey
twilit patrol
Winton > Winston
high light
did ramattra join talon?
worthy rose
Since this was a debate in #overwatch, is Echo an omnic or not?
rare trail
no
tame dew
I'm here too, we're generally curious about this 
rare trail
omnics are robots built in omniums
worthy rose
Yeah
rare trail
echo wasnt built in an omnium
tame dew
So echo would just be considered a robot?
rare trail
yea
omnic also sometimes refers to only the sentient ones that are built in omniums
like ram doesnt consider his mindless non sentient soldiers omnics even though theyre built in omniums
so omnic means sentient robot built in an omnium
tame dew
Makes sense
Yea, like all them null sector robots don't speak n stuff so they just kinda do what they're programmed to do presumably?
tame dew
Interesting stuff
rare trail
besides for like the higher ups
like nameless and lanet are sentient
although they arent higher ups anymore because they left/are dead
tame dew
Mhm yea, and Ramattra obviously lmao
worthy rose
Yeah I was about to say that they aren't with Ram anymore..
tame dew
;(
rare trail
i dont think we know when omnics became sentient
less than twenty years ago given thats how old zenyatta is but not much past that
tame dew
I do know that, that doctor- idk how to spell her name, the one that made echo, she helped develop the omnics, so it was presumably some sort of breakthrough where they managed to make these previously just robots sentient
I am actually curious about that, is it known when and for how long echo was powered down in that pod for before Cassidy freed her?
worthy rose
I think sentience for omnics was like "granted" from Aurora, the first sentient omnic, but my omnic sentience lore is very rusty, so I may need a refresher on it
worthy rose
Right
rare trail
I am actually curious about that, is it known when and for how long echo was pow...
we dont know how old echo is but probably like 10-15 years
tame dew
Mhm, makes sense
drifting stone
what do we know about lifeweaver in this point of time?
scarlet badge
did ramattra join talon?
Im pretty sure he only really affiliated with Shambali I dont think he is with talon. I think he just is an adventurer with zenyatta.
scarlet badge
Im pretty sure ram is not in talon
rare trail
hes not in talon
rare trail
he is working with talon
peak escarp
Ramattra is allied with Talon
peak escarp
he's using Doomfist's resources to wage war against humanity
scarlet badge
I said affiliated
peak escarp
he's not "just an adventurer"
scarlet badge
Not affiliating
rare trail
he isnt an adventurer with zenyatta
scarlet badge
Affiliated. Verb Past tense of Affiliate
scarlet badge
I affiliate with someone, I no longer affiliate with said person, I affiliated with them!
rare trail
yeah
he isnt an adventurer with zenyatta
hes the leader of null sector and working with talon
drifting stone
ty
rare trail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaX2bhHsMiI heres the thing of ramattra allying with talon
wind portal
get the fuck outta here