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dense nebula
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!shitposting

worthy rose
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She is theoretically an e-girl, isn't she?

dense nebula
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!!shitposting

twilit nacelleBOT
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dense nebula
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There we go

analog niche
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šŸ¤”

dense nebula
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Bring it on back to lore people

late belfry
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and with that, d.va liked my twitter comment

worthy rose
dense nebula
late belfry
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oopsie daisies

analog niche
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Solider and Rein are dilfs

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Why is torb so small

ivory garnet
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dwarfism

analog niche
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Does Genji have peen

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After hanzo

ivory garnet
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dont see why not

analog niche
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šŸ’€

ivory garnet
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all hanzo did was make Genji paralyzed from what we understand

dense nebula
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And also cut off most of his limbs

ivory garnet
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no

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those could be for surgery

dense nebula
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Ah yes, what better way to fix a spine than by cutting off the legs clueless

analog niche
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Does tracer have to poop again if she recalls?

ivory garnet
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couldve severed his veins

dense nebula
analog niche
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It does beg the question of what recall does and doesnā€™t do

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Like what if she died

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And then did it

ivory garnet
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then she cant recall

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she manually recalls

analog niche
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I manually hate you

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Also, why does mei turn into ice block

ivory garnet
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not canon

analog niche
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What part of her does that lmao

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Just like my dad lol

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Fair enough

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If it was, sheā€™d be bluer than widowmaker

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Why does sigma not just summon a black hole to cause a team wipe?

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Is he stupid?

worthy rose
ivory garnet
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he does experiments in the background

analog niche
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I like to experiment šŸ˜‰

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Also

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Thatā€™s funny that we have two black hole characters

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Technically Zarya is the first one

twilit nacelleBOT
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Please remember to be respectful of everyone in this channel and throughout all other channels. Be kind and have fun

analog niche
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Why does Zaryaā€™s gun shoot a black hole?

hasty walrus
worthy rose
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She was first dawg

peak escarp
analog niche
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Thatā€™s a black hole

peak escarp
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no it's not

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a black hole that size would destroy Earth

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and since she used it on Sombra and didn't destroy Earth, clearly it's not a black hole

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tribal imp
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Why is doom fist so weak

summer tulip
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If you are talking about gameplay then this isnt right channel

junior schooner
quiet drift
summer tulip
chrome plover
fathom canyon
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going back to the Zarya thing, what exactly does she shoot

peak escarp
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gravitons

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graviton

Graviton

In theories of quantum gravity, the graviton is the hypothetical quantum of gravity, an elementary particle that mediates the force of gravitational interaction. There is no complete quantum field theory of gravitons due to an outstanding mathematical problem with renormalization in general relativity. In string theory, believed by some to be a ...

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it's a theoretical particle of gravity

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but OW is scifi, so they just made it real

rare trail
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were the omnics who doomfist killed in numbani airport sentient?

peak escarp
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I think so

viscid flame
dense nebula
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Iā€¦. Do not know if they were sentient

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Were the OR-14s sentient?

leaden reef
faint knot
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Does ramattra have hatred for genji? I heard a voice line today about it

rare trail
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yeah he doesnt like genji

faint knot
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Why so?

rare trail
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he distracted zen or smth

peak escarp
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he considers him Zenyatta's pet

faint knot
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Oh

worthy rose
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Why does Kiriko look so young? She is 24, but looks like 19 years old

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She looks the same age as D.Va

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And also acts like a typical 18 or 19 year old

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Not as much as a 24 year old woman

peak escarp
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she looks 20-something to me

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people don't suddenly mature when they hit 20

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I'm still immature and I'm 35

rare trail
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yeah i think it could just be artstyle

peak escarp
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also, Blizzard's art style makes everyone look young

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yeah

worthy rose
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Male characters not as much

peak escarp
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Ashe has pretty smooth skin for someone who is almost 40

worthy rose
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Hanzo looks older tho

rare trail
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i think bap looks kinda young

worthy rose
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He looks in his 40s

worthy rose
peak escarp
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Hanzo is just ugly

worthy rose
peak escarp
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idk

worthy rose
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I thought people thought he was hot!!!

peak escarp
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I don't see it

rare trail
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some people do

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how attractive people are is ultimately subjective

worthy rose
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True

peak escarp
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but yes, the soft art style does impact female heroes more than males

worthy rose
dry bridge
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How old is hanmond

twilit patrol
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14

ivory garnet
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was 14, we dont know how many years passed

dry bridge
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Also what does BAMF mean

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Itā€™s on Cassidyā€™s belt

rare trail
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i believe it means bad ass mother fucker

ivory garnet
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its a nod to Pulp Fiction

limpid agate
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It is also a nod to the original founders of the Deadlock Gang

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Bez
Ashe
McCree
Frankie

golden oak
peak escarp
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I'm aware

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I'm just saying, at her age some wrinkles should be starting to appear

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I am also a woman over 30

golden oak
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Sheā€™s rich and cares about her looks, maybe itā€™s her skincare šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

upbeat violet
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i mean

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she leads a criminal life

worthy rose
peak escarp
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we need more older female heroes

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we only have 3 over 40

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compared to 7 male heroes over 40

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conversely, we only have 3 (human) male heroes under 30 compared to 6 (human) female heroes under 30

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so more young males and older females

limpid agate
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Which category does Mei fall under

peak escarp
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she falls in the 30-40 category both ways

limpid agate
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I guess over 40 is exclusive

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Rather than inclusive

peak escarp
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yes

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also she's a special case

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I would count her as 31

full basin
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Omg, hey Doctor_Six. I decided to read some old messages of mine today in this discord back when I was getting into the lore of OW 4 years ago, and I remember talking quite a bit with you about it. So cool to still see you active here ^^

peak escarp
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I'm always here

full basin
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It's so funny to see my old self ask all these questions relating to the lore, and I just have no idea what I was talking about haha

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It's just been too long since I looked into the lore of OW :p

peak escarp
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well there's lots more to learn about, with the PvE coming soon

full basin
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Oooh right šŸ˜®

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I keep forgetting about that

young lily
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What map is this from

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Numbani?

peak escarp
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yes

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it used to be in the last defender's spawn

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before they changed it to an exhibit on Efi

dense nebula
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May God have mercy on what you have witnessed

stuck abyss
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Where can I go to catch up on all the lore Iā€™m just now becoming a fan

full basin
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I was about to ask a similar question haha

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But not as a new fan, but a returning one

peak escarp
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look in the pins on this channel

full basin
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Ah thanks

peak escarp
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I have some lists and a google doc

full basin
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Much appreciated

fathom canyon
stuck abyss
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Tanks

exotic comet
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why

golden oak
peak escarp
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because this was before his identity was known to players

golden oak
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Also whatā€™s that bongo thing orisa has on her back which is also on numbani map

peak escarp
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it's her supercharger

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it was her ultimate in OW1

leaden reef
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Team up for special attack

limpid agate
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Ana

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Specifically, Shrike or Bastet, which are two of Ana's vigilante alter egos

delicate wharf
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Very important lore question: do omnics have an official slur?

idle finch
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I donā€™t think so?

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they probably just get called ā€œ______ (literally any insulting word) robotā€

delicate wharf
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Lame

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At least something like "tin can" would've been fine

analog niche
worthy rose
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Any updates on the pve?

twilit patrol
vital horizon
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does she know?

analog niche
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Maybe next year

twilit patrol
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no

analog niche
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yes

winged sierra
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SUPPOSEDLY we are supposed to get a road map for overwatch soon, I think they mentioned they were supposed to tell us more about PvE in April, I could be wrong though

twilit patrol
uncut mantle
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given the tone of voice and that she mentions it to ana specifically with no prompt whatsoever, i think the implication of the voice line is that Orisa knows, and is just gauging what Ana has to say about her reputation

fresh rock
analog niche
fresh rock
twilit patrol
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Take this

analog niche
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No thanks

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You keep it

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Also

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Y e s

twilit patrol
analog niche
peak escarp
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we had one for all of OW2 when the game launched last October, and they're going to release one that covers the rest of 2023

magic epoch
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like when does the pve take place

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assuming its after the recall

twilit patrol
magic epoch
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but whatll happen to the ones who didnt answer?

twilit patrol
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Torbjorn is retire

magic epoch
peak escarp
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not likely

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it's been mostly finished for a while

magic epoch
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then its probably not dropping til ow2 starts dropping massively

peak escarp
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why does everyone assume the worst possible outcome

magic epoch
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cuz its blizzard

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also do we have any info what the pve will be about like will we have any talon missions cuz thatd be dope

twilit patrol
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You're late Loump

magic epoch
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all i know is bastion is squadding up with rein

magic epoch
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now tell me

twilit patrol
magic epoch
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soo will there be talon missions?

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oh and will that roadmap be posted on the ow twitter or one of the devs?

peak escarp
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it will probably be on twitter and the OW blog

fresh rock
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Also thanks

green falcon
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i think bastion and widow are a couple

twilit patrol
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!!shitposting

twilit nacelleBOT
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Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

green falcon
twilit patrol
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Repeat ?

peak escarp
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this is a serious discussion channel

fathom canyon
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so like this season got lore for the battle pass and themes?

green falcon
fathom canyon
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with like the galactic empire and stuff

rare trail
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we're supposed to be getting a comic or something

fathom canyon
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oh that's gonna be fire

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finally some sigma lore (even if it's not canon)

peak escarp
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it's going to be a fun AU

fathom canyon
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my frog boi is a prince of some kind and I couldn't be happier

fresh rock
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In about two weeks from now

latent hound
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Does anyone know how to unlock the Black Hole Icon ?

fresh rock
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Ah, not the right channel to ask.

fresh rock
sand barn
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Lore wise who's stronger, Reaper or Doom

limpid agate
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Doomfist

rare trail
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!!shitposting

twilit nacelleBOT
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rare trail
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theyre literally brothers

limpid agate
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Thanks

vast gulch
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Thanks for counting 26 for me lol

hollow tinsel
# sand barn Lore wise who's stronger, Reaper or Doom

Doomfist, his reaction sense and his combat adaptability is insane. Also, not only does Doom know everything about Reaper since Reap works for him, but doomfist already has the strongest weapon on earth. Game wise tho Doomfist gets one tapped no diff by Reaper šŸ˜‚

limpid agate
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Not the strongest weapon on earth

sand barn
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If they were to fight to th death will doom still win? Coz cant Reaper like not die

limpid agate
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Code of Violence shows he is mortal

dense nebula
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Reaper is in constant pain due to his cells dying and regenerating isnā€™t he?

limpid agate
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Yes

sand barn
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Yeah

jolly sky
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who is homosexual?

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in the game

limpid agate
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Soldier and Tracer

jolly sky
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is soldier one of those?

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isnt he military?

limpid agate
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Yes

snow sinew
jolly sky
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i no speak so well inglish so sorru

topaz kraken
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hi

jolly sky
snow sinew
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hi

sand barn
limpid agate
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!!lorestories

twilit nacelleBOT
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Short Stories:
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE
Stone By Stone: https://bit.ly/36EsPul
Code of Violence: https://bit.ly/33CeroL

Lore Bites:
Yōkai: https://bit.ly/3UDJzKb
Reflections: https://bit.ly/3FiMNx2

Overwatch Novels. Note: These books are not free, but can be purchased online from a retailer like Amazon (linked)
The Hero of Numbai: https://amzn.to/3lYlzRT
Deadlock Rebels: https://amzn.to/3PRgDMl
Overwatch: Sojourn: https://amzn.to/3z4mc47

sand barn
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Ty

keen dagger
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Junkrat was def found in a trashcan by hog. Thats their origin story. Im right.

dense nebula
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!!shitposting

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Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

raw scarab
keen dagger
raw scarab
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you wanna make me angry huh dino?

peak escarp
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we saw them meet in the comic "Wasted Land"

brisk moon
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Is Lifeweaver actually pan or nah

quiet rune
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ye he is

jovial ginkgo
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Who's in for a treat

analog niche
umbral escarp
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do we know why Gabriel reyes attacked winstons base in the short recall

hollow tinsel
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šŸ¤·

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Why you referring to Reaper as his actual name šŸ˜­

umbral escarp
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idk

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probably because hes more refered to that in the lore

hollow tinsel
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Lol

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I am Siebren de Kuiper

umbral escarp
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also what yall think about the rein sacrifice theory

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and also do you think we will see the og hanzo v genji

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with hanzo using the sword

spiral kite
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Hanzo Vs Genji Vs Kririko

lilac lion
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IF Hanzo were to use a sword, he'd win for sure

umbral escarp
peak escarp
fathom canyon
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do we know what happened to the scientists at horizon lunar colony or are we assuming they died from the animals getting out and attacking them and/or escaped

peak escarp
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they were killed by the apes

zealous knoll
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They're still up there

peak escarp
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it's implied they were ejected out of the airlock onto the moon's surface without suits

zealous knoll
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Space without a suite = suffocation swag

peak escarp
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exactly

zealous knoll
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I like hammond but I really did wish he was am ape

peak escarp
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an ape would have made more sense

zealous knoll
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Yeah but they wanted a cute design so oh well

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Hope we get more animal experimented characters

vapid tusk
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Imagine a giraffe

vapid tusk
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I wonder who would win, genji and hanzo vs kirikoā€™s mom

flat blade
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lucio

zealous knoll
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lmao

peak escarp
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I don't want anymore animals

fathom canyon
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speak for yourself I want jetpack cat

vapid tusk
peak escarp
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there's your jetpack cat

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vapid tusk
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Did kanezaka and hanamura get along well

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or whatever shimadaā€™s empire is

limpid agate
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I dont understand the question

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They're both parts of Tokyo that are next door to eachother

vapid tusk
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I was gonna explain in a paragraph but Iā€™m too lazy

analog niche
fathom canyon
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reborn into jetpack cat

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cyborg cat

finite elk
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bro the only lore ik abt kiriko is she likes donuts skule

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can someone explain to me more lore abt kiriko lol

peak escarp
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she grew up with the Shimada bros, and learned kitsune magic from her grandma

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she's also in a street gang

finite elk
fathom canyon
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that's who thos mfs at the end of her origin story were

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i believe

peak escarp
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yes

finite elk
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oh

fathom canyon
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what are some non lore canon abilities, like for example Zen doesn't have any glowy magic in the lore

rare trail
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revive

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coach gun

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damage boost

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everything sigma related

fathom canyon
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damn I thought sigma's stuff was lore canon

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he just a crazy old man then

peak escarp
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he can still manipulate gravity, but he doesn't have full control over it

leaden reef
fresh rock
hollow tinsel
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Hello hello good people

light condor
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Is Ramattra working with Talon? If so, is he aware of Mondatta's assassination?

peak escarp
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yes and probably

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he didn't like Mondatta

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Ramattra thought Mondatta needed to be punished after he denounced them following the King's Row uprising

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I don't think he'd be torn up about Mondatta getting assassinated

light condor
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Ah. I figured he'd have at least some sympathy for another senseless Omnic death.

unkempt cedar
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Kinda off topic but I think sombra likes Cassidy not just because the interaction they had between each other but also the one with ash

exotic karma
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is there any lore behind if widowmaker or reaper are in love or at least have some sort of feelings for each other?

rare trail
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no

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reaper and widow donā€™t have a romantic connection

worthy rose
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how is it that zenyatta, is everywhere

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prob cause he can fly

worthy rose
exotic karma
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reaper has a wife

exotic karma
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they have only been there for each other

rare trail
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No they havenā€™t

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Thereā€™s nothing showing that theyā€™re romantic in any way

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Reaper has/had a wife and Amelie had Gerard

rare trail
rare trail
worthy rose
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its zenyatta voiceline

rare trail
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whatā€™s the voice line?

worthy rose
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Zenyatta, (1 second pause), is everywhere

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it'll be hard to find but in game if a zen has the right skin its what is said

worthy rose
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Itā€™s what he says for his teammates when he is switched to while using the Cultist skin (or the recolor). Itā€™s not canon

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yeah its hard to get audio of it unless it game

exotic karma
rare trail
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Thereā€™s no reason to think there will be

quick tree
vapid ledge
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What am i reading

limpid agate
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That's the interaction

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Sombra: Every time I need a laugh, I look at your search history.
Cassidy: sigh Let me guess. Last night around dinner time?
Sombra: "Cactus spines in butt. How get rid of?"
Cassidy: Was I supposed to leave them in there?!

vapid ledge
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Without the context i thought of something else completely

limpid agate
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No, the cactus wasn't touching his butt intentionally

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He probably sat on it by accident or something

vapid ledge
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I would touch his butt

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What

worthy cave
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Hello everyone

vapid ledge
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Anyone excited for the new comic to come out soon? Felt like it's been awhile since we got any lore

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Even if its non canon

rain shoal
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What comic?

limpid agate
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starwatch

rain shoal
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Oh that

limpid agate
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It feels like its been awhile because there was nothing additional alongside Lifeweaver

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Just a bio and origin short

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And last season had less with just Ecopoint that told us very little new information

keen summit
golden oak
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If she still loves him why doesnā€™t she hate talon for making her kill him

keen summit
dense nebula
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And she likes killing cause it makes her feel alive

shadow marsh
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She loves killing

stoic quiver
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yo is north korea a thing in ow

keen summit
stoic quiver
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k

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ty

left portal
golden oak
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What does Lucio say in the Brazilian ult line

fathom canyon
golden oak
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Oh

worthy rose
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He says this, and wiki translates it to that. Donā€™t know if itā€™s accurate though

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tired fulcrum
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has anyone read the ashe book and orisa books? what do you think of them?

peak escarp
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the Orisa book has too many lines that are just dialogue from the game

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I think almost all of Lucio's dialogue is just taken from the game

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Ashe's book is great - definitely the best of the three

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I recommend the audiobook - Jen Hale does a fantastic job reading it

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the Sojourn novel is a bit boring, but it does give us a good look at what life was like for her during the omnic crisis, and the prejudice she experienced as a cyborg

tired fulcrum
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i didn't even know there was a sojourn novel šŸ˜…

fathom canyon
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wait what's this about books

peak escarp
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there's 3 Overwatch novels

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they're all YA novels, although the Orisa novel skews a little younger

fathom canyon
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worth a read or nah

upbeat violet
peak escarp
hollow tinsel
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Hello hello good people

fathom canyon
peak escarp
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the Orisa novel also features a lot of Doomfist and a little Lucio
the Ashe novel also features a lot of Cassidy (still called McCree because it was published before the name change)
the Sojourn novel also features a lot of Soldier and a little Torbjorn and Liao

hollow tinsel
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Doomfist in lore is OP bro

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Too bad he sucks in game

fathom canyon
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is doomfist himself powerful or his gauntlet, I know he killed the other doomfist but whatis the power gauge

peak escarp
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Doomfist has a really good monologue in the novel that I would kill to have Sahr Ngaujah do a reading of

fathom canyon
peak escarp
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yeah

grand wedge
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I do hope to have some good monologue from him within the story mode šŸ¤ž šŸ™

rare trail
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im excited for ramattra monologues

fathom canyon
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with Overwatch 2 Orisa would you say she would win a fight against Doomfist since she pre much was made to counter him, or would be a 50/50 thing

rare trail
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orisa already beat doomfist

grand wedge
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They did amazing things with cinematic cutscenes in WoW - I sure hope they do the same with Overwatch (and maybe more...)

fathom canyon
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oh that's right

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thats the whole numbani map change a while back

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I want more sigma, doom, and rammatra lines

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they are too cold

dense nebula
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Only beaten out by Sigma, Symmetra, Winston and Orisa

fathom canyon
rare trail
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doomfist is powerful himself

fathom canyon
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since they use the same tech

dense nebula
rare trail
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sym is especially good at using hardlight

dense nebula
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Also yeah

fathom canyon
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I see

dense nebula
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Symmā€™s a prodigy

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And extremely imaginative

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She claims she can construct an axe a kilometer high

fathom canyon
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damn but all we get to see are walls and turrets huh

rare trail
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sym could be categorized as a savant right?

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because of her autism and her expertise in hardlight usage

dense nebula
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They need to rework her so she feels like an actual constructor hero besides plop turrets and beam people to death

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The devs have a lack of imagination

fathom canyon
rare trail
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yea

fathom canyon
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we golden

rare trail
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her ult is cool but like shes supposed to be a dps

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one of the most defensive ults in the gamefor a damage character

dense nebula
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Honestly the petal platform LW has couldā€™ve been awesome on Sym

fathom canyon
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true but I think TP is fine especially when used correctly

dense nebula
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Hereā€™s an idea, have Symm replicate a weapon as an ult

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She can cycle through different weapons and choose which one she wants to make

fathom canyon
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that would be fucking sick

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but noo giant wall go brr

rare trail
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like echo?

fathom canyon
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i was thinking like an assortment of random weapons

dense nebula
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Echo copies a player, Iā€™m talking a unique set of weapons for Symm to choose from

fathom canyon
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Like giant axe a km high

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or whatever it was

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different weapons for dif scenario

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high damage but very short range, a long range precision weapon etc etc

dense nebula
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It would be actually cool if she manipulated her weapon with hardlight to make the new weapon but still have her weapon present in the design of it

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Like her holding it a different way and turning it into a Katar

fathom canyon
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ooooh

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I like

worthy rose
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Or she punches you with her weapon and it creates a giant fist

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Literally Green Lantern

dense nebula
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Her whole gimmick is sheā€™s limited only by her imagination yet she has the most boring kit in game

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Ironic

worthy rose
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Would be cool if we got a Vishkar hero who utilized several kinds of weapons made from Hard Light.. though with Lifeweaver, it'll likely be a looooong time before another Vishkar hero, if any more at all

dense nebula
#

And the only other option is Sanjay

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And well

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Letā€™s just say he isnā€™t the most imaginative of them

#

So our best option is to rework Symmetra

upbeat violet
#

I donā€™t think theyā€™d rework Sym, thereā€™s hardly an in game argument to do so sadly

fathom canyon
dense nebula
#

Maybe allow her to also choose a hardlight shield

#

Iā€™m gonna brainstorm a bit

fathom canyon
#

if they dont add these to PvP they better do it to PvE

upbeat violet
#

yeah i have high hopes for pve

dense nebula
#

Doesnā€™t Symm create a hardlight path she runs along in one of the comics?

fathom canyon
#

yeah in her first one where she was rooftop running

#

i believe

upbeat violet
#

pve has so much potential

#

you wouldnā€™t be locked by the boundaries of it being an fps game

fathom canyon
fathom canyon
upbeat violet
#

yes

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i hope they donā€™t troll

fathom canyon
#

blizz already on everyones shit list

upbeat violet
#

im still optimistic

#

theyā€™ve done some good stuff in the past

fathom canyon
#

all April fools stuff is cool additions but I want those visuals

#

eye candy that make my eyes do the thing where thy leave my eye sockets

worthy rose
twilit patrol
#

Next week

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Probably

peak escarp
#

soon

analog niche
#

Probably

twilit patrol
analog niche
#

YES

#

This againā€¦

fresh rock
#

Quiet.

#

It is time to discuss... lore

analog niche
#

Like the lore of why blizzard was too stupid to not make an overwatch show

#

Arcane šŸ

fresh rock
#

It wouldn't work. It would cut away from the actual game.

rare trail
#

not enough people care about the overwatch lore to make a show that would be profitable enough

fresh rock
#

The same could've been said about LOL

#

But alas, it did work

#

And Overwatch show would be a bit... complex

rare trail
#

league has a lot more players than overwatch

upbeat violet
peak escarp
#

League has also been around for a lot longer than Overwatch

#

just because they haven't made a show yet doesn't mean they won't in the future

analog niche
#

Yeah but it had so much momentum at the time

peak escarp
#

I don't think League had much momentum when Arcane came out

analog niche
#

I mean overwatch

#

It just exploded

peak escarp
#

my point is, momentum doesn't matter

#

if a 13-year old game like League can get a show

#

big projects for new franchises are more likely to flop

#

a series is a better investment for a stable IP that has been around for a while and has a strong fanbase

near surge
#

An Overwatch show would be peak, the animated shorts are already amazing- imagine what they could do with a bigger budget

peak escarp
#

besides, Blizzard doesn't really have the money for a series right now, what with all the lawsuits they have to pay for

#

it started in 2009

#

Arcane came out in... 2021?

#

so 12 years

unique plume
#

still Lol has the best esports

#

like i saw smth on yt someone said that ike 2 billion people watch the lol league final

#

that s like 2/3 of the world s population

#

still,it s very much

#

like the game is fun until you start to get the shi serious

rare trail
#

i think we're straying off topic

unique plume
peak escarp
#

which finals?

#

certainly not this year's

unique plume
#

yeah

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i think gaming went down from like 2018

#

the games went like too complicated and not enjoyable

#

that like my opinion

peak escarp
#

anyway

#

the lore is the most interesting part of the game, it's natural that they'll want to expand it

unique plume
#

yeah,good point

peak escarp
#

they've already branched out with novels

unique plume
#

but what caused overwatch downfall?the blackwatch event or what?

#

(lorewise)

peak escarp
#

it was a combination of things

#

the public was already becoming distrustful of Overwatch when Blackwatch got exposed, which led to an inquiry from the UN

#

and then the explosion of the Swiss HQ under suspicious circumstances and the apparent death of all three of their leaders

#

Overwatch only had Sojourn left to defend it, and she decided it was better to let it die

#

personally, I blame Moira

unique plume
peak escarp
#

Ana

#

she was "KIA" by Widowmaker before that explosion

unique plume
#

and what did moira did?

#

damn the lore is so deep

peak escarp
#
  1. Moira's treatment of Reyes caused him to act impulsively, killing Antonio rather than taking him captive, and setting off a sequence of events that exposed Blackwatch to the world and led to Overwatch being investigated for corruption
  2. Moira's presence in Blackwatch was kept a secret from Morrison by Reyes, which eroded the trust between them, culminating in a fight that was believed to have triggered an explosion that destroyed the Swiss HQ and (according to public knowledge) killed both Morrison and Reyes
  3. Moira's genetic therapy of Amelie Lacroix aided in turning her into a perfect sniper, who would later go on to (attempt to) assassinate Ana Amari - with Ana no longer there to act as mediator between Morrison and Reyes, their friendship fell apart
#

in short, Moira unintentionally killed Overwatch

unique plume
#

where can i find more of this infos?

grand wedge
#

"unintentionally" is still to be proven, because i'm pretty sure she can hold grudges like no one else

#

Her origin story implies that a lot - because Overwatch was holding back science progress in her eyes, she definitely could have intentionally have a part in destroying it

fierce bloom
#

whats the origin story of moira??

peak escarp
brave estuary
white cairn
#

Weird question but what would happen if tracer got pregnant

rare trail
#

nothing out of the ordinary i would assume

#

i dont think her chronal disassociation is genetic so the child would probably just be normal

analog niche
#

Can she recall after giving birth?

#

And give birth again?

white cairn
#

Heā€™s onto something

analog niche
#

No Iā€™m just on something lol

near surge
#

That's deep

rare trail
#

it is difficult to discern what would go back with her

#

but i dont think it actually changes stuff about her

#

i think it changes her position

analog niche
#

But she gets healed

rare trail
#

thats not necessarily canon

analog niche
#

I mean from the widowmaker cinematic

#

Although

rare trail
#

when did she get healed in alive

analog niche
#

That might be misconstrued on my part

#

The recall after widow used her fart bomb

rare trail
#

i dont think that healed her

analog niche
#

I think so too

#

Now at least

#

Widowmaker definitely fills up her mines with all of her farts from eating baguettes and escargot

upbeat violet
#

sheā€™s french

twilit patrol
analog niche
#

šŸ‡«šŸ‡·

#

Oui

twilit patrol
#

Oui

analog niche
#

Le franch

twilit patrol
#

No

analog niche
#

Oui

twilit patrol
#

D'accord.

analog niche
#

Non

twilit patrol
#

Stop please

analog niche
#

Whatever

#

Loser

#

Back to the lore

twilit patrol
#

That's why i said ''stop please''

analog niche
#

Thatā€™s why I said ā€œback to the loreā€

twilit patrol
analog niche
twilit patrol
#

I want another character french

analog niche
#

Honestly, his boyfriend should have died

fathom canyon
twilit patrol
analog niche
#

Like if youā€™re gonna fridge a character, go all the way

fathom canyon
#

2 people speaking French is enough

twilit patrol
#

2 people ? Who ?

#

Oh.

fathom canyon
#

Widow and bap

twilit patrol
#

I didn't know for Bap

fathom canyon
#

Bap from that one place that speaks French cuz they jiggy wit it

analog niche
#

Bc heā€™s Haitian

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And an orphan

twilit patrol
#

He speak french but he isn't french

analog niche
#

An bi

fathom canyon
#

Yeah that

#

And that

analog niche
#

And a loser

fathom canyon
#

That too

#

Imagine always being on the run

#

Couldnā€™t be me

rare trail
#

haiti is a french speaking country?

twilit patrol
#

I don't know

rare trail
#

i assume colonized by french people?

worthy rose
#

Haitian Creole

twilit patrol
#

As a french person, i'm suppose to know that ?

#

Because i don't know

worthy rose
#

It's a French-based language

rare trail
#

yeah france colonized haiti

#

like the reason they speak portuguese in brazil is bc of colonization

rare trail
worthy rose
#

Yeah the language is called Haitian Creole

rare trail
#

haiti has two official languages though

#

haitian creole and french

worthy rose
#

True, but what Bap speaks is Haitian Creole specifically. At least according to the in-game subtitles

rare trail
#

i wonder how he learned english

twilit patrol
analog niche
rare trail
#

kiriko hanzo and genji too

twilit patrol
#

What do you think

rare trail
#

idk why they speak english

#

i mean i know why

twilit patrol
#

And why widow speak english ?

rare trail
#

i dont know how though

#

maybe english became more universal in overwatch timeline

#

what languages the characters speak and why is on topic lol

#

yea it is

#

its a part of the lore

#

yea it is

twilit patrol
#

The problem is that they have to make all the characters speak english.

rare trail
twilit patrol
#

So, they are all bilingual automatically.

analog niche
#

My problem is that kiriko sounds English compared to the Genji and hanzo, which seems odd?

rare trail
#

yeah thats weird

#

a lot of characters are bilingual

#

dva knows korean and english

#

doomfist is probably bilingual because african places generally have many languages

twilit patrol
#

Wait

#

Soldier and Tracer aren't

#

Reaper too

golden oak
#

Does echo orisa and bastion know each other?

rare trail
#

i dont think so

#

echo and bastion probably know of orisa

#

bastion will probably meet echo in pve

#

bastion seems to understand and speak english

#

well "speak"

twilit patrol
#

Yeah..

rare trail
#

could just be another language torb knows

#

maybe omnics have their own language

#

winston zen ball tracer soldier sojourn hog junkrat reaper moira all only know 1 language right?

golden oak
#

Why does orisa in her interactions with bastion acts like she knows him tho

twilit patrol
#

Soldier, Winston, Reaper maybe

rare trail
#

interactions sometimes assume more information than the characters know

twilit patrol
#

I don't know for the rest

rare trail
#

all omnics might know all languages but that hasnt been shown

#

jq too

golden oak
#

No, Iā€™m asking if orisa knows bastion

twilit patrol
#

No i don't think

wind portal
peak escarp
#

Doomfist speaks Yoruba in the novel

golden oak
#

Btw do we know what purpose was doomfistā€™s gauntlet made for

spiral walrus
golden oak
#

Why

dense nebula
#

It depends on which Doomfist

#

Considering itā€™s a powerful gauntlet itā€™s designed for combat

wind portal
#

I think the gauntlet was originally made as a sign of honor but was tainted by the 2nd and current doomfist

dense nebula
#

The Savior made his to defend the weak and innocent, The Scourge made his to wield power and use it to get more power, The Successor uses as a weapon of destruction but also a symbol of evolution

#

To show that even should you fall, even should you lose a limb, you are capable of coming back stronger

#

I like to think Akande is the middle ground of the Doomfists, while heā€™s def more The Scourge than the Savior, it could be seen that his gauntlet is used to protect the innocent by allowing the opportunity of evolution

#

To become stronger like him

serene pasture
#

Who wins Sigma (lore) or Doomfist (lore)

peak escarp
#

Sigma

#

if he had full control of his powers

serene pasture
#

makes sense

#

he kinda has full control its more his mental state

#

i wouldn't be surprised if he goes on a rampage cause his mind goes even more crazy

peak escarp
#

Sigma doesn't have full control over his powers

#

he only gained some control while in Talon's custody

torpid terrace
#

I did not know that

hollow tinsel
analog niche
#

R E L E A S E M E

hollow tinsel
#

H E T U N I V E R S U M Z I N G T V O O R M I J

analog niche
dapper summit
#

is sigma strongest in lore?

woeful fiber
#

isn't reaper unkillable?

rare trail
#

No he can be killed

woeful fiber
#

TIL

worthy rose
rare trail
#

Like with normal stuff like guns

#

He regenerates fast

#

But his regeneration isnā€™t instant

worthy rose
#

So when hes like killed

#

where does he go

#

His body i mean

#

or his

#

um

#

whatever you call him and his body

peak escarp
#

it wouldn't go anywhere

#

he has to actively choose to become smoke

#

if you killed him he'd just be a corpse

limpid agate
#

A corpse that would probably decay faster than normal. But thats over time still, not immediately

worthy rose
#

ohh

#

that makes sense

#

i thought that if you were to kill reaper heā€™d turn into like a small cloud of smoke or something ā€¦

hollow maple
#

Am I missing something on why Cas just keep hitting on Moira? swag

peak escarp
#

hitting on her?

#

he's just being polite

hollow maple
#

It's either he's intentionally dropping the rizz on her or she mistranslated it.

#

Never see him say anything like that to anyone else. angrymuda

peak escarp
#

what does he say?

hollow maple
#

If I remember it right I heard like 2 interactions like that between them.

The first one is arguable because he simply said "you looks nice" and she clearly doesn't not like it although I never heard he talks like that to anyone else.

The second one I don't remember and I'm looking for it. :p
(Could be wrong)

peak escarp
# 
    Moira: Busier than you, I assume.
    Cassidy: (chuckles) I've missed you, too. You look great, by the way.
    Moira: Same saccharine tongue, same empty head.```
hollow maple
cedar stump
#

cassidy hits on everyone tbf

proud fractal
#

Question. What do we know about Gabe and Martina?

grand wedge
#

That they had a son together

#

and, that's basically it.

oblique gull
#

does tf2 have ANYTHING to do with ow. any reference, any lore part, ANYTHING?

wind portal
quiet rune
# hollow maple That's the 1st one.

I think he is being sarcastic, he has a deep rooted dislike of moira, and now she has slightly greying hair and a giant purple veiny arm with claws for nails. and an eye patch thingy

golden oak
#

I think he even thought Reyes hiring moira was a mistake

low vine
#

I need someone to tell me the whole story of this game

indigo tiger
#

Heros and a monkey and a swag

stuck cradle
#

i hate devin booker

analog niche
#

What is the lore?

analog niche
potent briar
potent briar
#

At least I think she remarried I know she got a new man tho

analog niche
quiet rune
quiet rune
#

good storyline vids

quiet rune
rare trail
#

i think blackwatch did pretty cool things

quiet rune
#

exept, you know, cold blooded murder, and half their members being psycopaths

#

Also, imagine Bap had been stationed as one of those soldiers from that mission, how would that change the lore?

indigo tiger
#

He was a medic

wind portal
quiet rune
potent briar
#

Coulda seen Mauga too

green falcon
#

is this true?

peak escarp
#

there's an interaction where Lifeweaver flirts with Baptiste

#

and Baptiste flirts back

#

so maybe

analog niche
#

Heā€™s not interested

#

He just wants free drinks

#

Being on the run is hard

near surge
#

real

hollow maple
near surge
#

Tbf he acts like that around a lot of other characters iirc

analog niche
#

I donā€™t think Iā€™ve ever heard him be serious once

dense nebula
#

He flirts with everyone ngl

analog niche
#

Quick, hide the womenā€™!

#

And the menā€¦

dense nebula
#

Hide everyone

#

Bap is on the prowl

analog niche
#

And the monkeys/hamsters/robots?

#

My god

#

Heā€™ll stop at nothing

#

If it has two legs, hide it

peak escarp
#

pretty sure he's only into humans

#

haven't heard him flirt with any omnics

quiet rune
analog niche
fair moss
analog niche
#

New hero

#

That would be cool though, one thatā€™s inspired by a crustacean

#

Oh right

#

Thatā€™s probably about it

#

Good enough I suppose

ivory garnet
#

Gwyshin Omnic

analog niche
#

Ooooh

#

yes

fresh rock
#

You know I realised

#

We have some underwater skins, right?

#

Could we get an underwater theme?

analog niche
#

No

#

(Maybe)

fresh rock
#

O-okay then

analog niche
#

Is that new water map in anyway connected to the canon?

fresh rock
#

No, it's simply a concept map

#

The fans just wanted to make a fun map.

twilit patrol
#

Don't worry we'll get a water map

#

(i hope)

analog niche
#

I was curious though

ivory garnet
#

maybe weā€™ll get the Colossal Gwyshin as a map at some point šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

analog niche
ivory garnet
#

what?

#

colossal gwyshin

analog niche
#

As a map?

languid badger
#

zhesty

ivory garnet
analog niche
#

Oh wow

#

That could be a neat assault map

#

With different rounds being in different parts of the body

#

Like the head, or the core

#

Or outside for one

young lily
#

What is the difference between junk rat and sigma and how insane they both are

analog niche
#

Sigma is just really really sane

past copper
#

Junkrat is more sane bc he wasn't in an accident

#

Sigma messed himself up with his experiment

rain shoal
#

he wasnt in an accident you say? those missing limbs say otherwise

hollow tinsel
#

I have a question

#

Is Soldier 76 canonically gay

#

Or is It just the fandom

twilit patrol
#

Soldier is canonically gay yes

delicate sky
#

I have a question the short shooting star dayon I think itā€™s name is he the brother of dva

rare trail
#

i dont think its been specified

ivory garnet
#

Dae-yun is a friend

serene pasture
twilit patrol
#

Whatā€™s the problem ?

serene pasture
#

no problem wanted to make a joke

twilit patrol
serene pasture
#

if tracer is lesbian and soldiers gay then is bastion pansexual

twilit patrol
#

Huh i donā€™t know

serene pasture
#

maybe all the omnics are

rare trail
quiet rune
#

More likely aro and or ace? Idk

rare trail
#

yeah i kinda got the impression bastion was aro/ace

#

some omnics do appear to be in romantic relationships though in alive

serene pasture
#

damn i didnt think you'd get into this

#

i just said bastion pansexual cause he metal šŸ˜­

rare trail
#

only confirmed lgbt characters are lifeweaver soldier and tracer

serene pasture
#

i call reaper raper cause yeh

peak escarp
#

why?

quiet rune
quiet rune
serene pasture
rare trail
#

?

quiet rune
serene pasture
#

it makes sense to me

peak escarp
#

I don't get it

upbeat violet
sick phoenix
hollow tinsel
hollow tinsel
#

Damm

#

Embed failure

serene pasture
#

lol

blazing reef
#

Who do you guys think is the strongest overwatch lore character? Me personally I think itā€™s doomfist

peak escarp
#

Sigma

#

Doomfist is 5th strongest

covert shoal
#

torbjorn solos

true locust
peak escarp
#

Sigma
Symmetra
Winston
Orisa
Doomfist

true locust
#

ooh thanks

scarlet apex
#

yo what's with that blue renewable energy everyone's got going on

peak escarp
#

hard light

scarlet apex
#

so even the floating trucks, the omnics, and the guns all run on hard light???

peak escarp
#

oh that

#

idk what that is

#

I thought you meant the shields

scarlet apex
#

nah

alpine marsh
#

?

fervent compass
alpine marsh
fringe shale
#

Isnā€™t sigma the strongest in the lore

rare trail
#

Maybe

fringe shale
rare trail
#

We donā€™t know the extent of his powers

#

Just a vague ā€œcontrol over gravityā€

fringe shale
#

So then we can assume he can manipulate grav to a extent

rare trail
#

Yeah to some extent

fringe shale
#

Like how we see with his gravity flux

rare trail
#

Gravity flux isnā€™t canon but yea

fringe shale
#

So could we assume if he trains it enough he could hypothetically make him self invis

rare trail
#

?

#

how would control over gravity make you invisible

vapid tusk
#

how does Genji feel about the Hashimotos taking over the empire?

feral owl
#

how are winston and hamster related

stuck cradle
wind portal
fringe shale
wind portal
#

that's light manipulation, not gravity.

#

you can't control particles or molecules with gravity

#

atleast not in the way that is shown in the lore

round venture
marsh crag
#

is Reinhardt Brigitte's father-

twilit patrol
#

Is Torb

dense nebula
#

Godfather

#

He saved Torbā€™s life and pestered him until Torb allowed him to name his next child

#

And no, Torb isnā€™t gay. Heā€™s married to a woman named Ingrid

worthy rose
fleet thistle
#

hmm idk how well known this is but i think ramattra kept one thing from his monk time, his floating orb just like zens he has the dark one on his void accelerator (the meditation emote proves this more than anything else)

analog niche
#

Maybe one of his 19 kids he had with his super awesome wife is though

stuck cradle
#

i hate devin booker

analog niche
#

What is the lore?

gray kayak
#

Use this channel seriously guys. Check channel description if needed. No shitposting or OT discussion in here.

twilit patrol
twilit nacelleBOT
#

This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

analog niche
#

I just realized it will be a while before we get another omnic hero :((

#

We just got Ramattra

grand wedge
#

Nameless is a good candidate to be an omnic hero - but idk if they'll work well as a support (since the next hero is a support too - and the next a tank (very likely Mauga) )

analog niche
grand wedge
#

Yes, the one that went back with their "shadows" - with bunny ears

analog niche
#

Oh right

#

Yeah no offense but those ears look f-ing stupid

#

Lynx had better implemented ears

quiet rune
quiet rune
#

I was thinking muscle, sig deff wins in that case

quiet rune
peak escarp
#

her gun doesn't make mini black holes, it makes graviton bombs

#

and Zarya is the strongest woman alive, but she's still weaker than every omnic and a genetically enhanced gorilla

quiet rune
rare trail
#

it hasnt been shown

#

we dont know if he can life people up like that

#

especially heavier people like orisa

quiet rune
rare trail
#

sym is like green lantern

peak escarp
#

hard light can do basically anything

quiet rune
analog niche
#

Lots of calcium

quiet rune
#

yes

quiet rune
#

but what if it was just a fistfight, no weapons, no armor (psycic abilities are allowed obvi)

rare trail
#

orisa or winston

#

sigma too

peak escarp
#

then the top 5 would be Winston, Orisa, Doomfist, Zarya, Reinhardt

#

oh you allow abilities

#

then Sigma instead of Reinhardt

quiet rune
#

But wouldnt orisa not be allowed cuz she is basically a weapon/armor?

rare trail
#

should we not factor in cybernetic enhancements for doom then?

#

what about the genetic changes for winston?

quiet rune
peak escarp
#

he's a trained martial artist

#

and he has a prosthetic arm under the gauntlet

quiet rune
#

but ye fair

rare trail
#

just the arm can punch through concrete

quiet rune
#

Ah ._.

#

I did not know that ._.

analog niche
#

Sombra most powerful

quiet rune
#

Also if Orisa on there what about Ram, with his big ass arms?

analog niche
#

She will dox you

quiet rune
analog niche
worthy rose
quiet rune
#

She would get backhanded acr-

rare trail