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yeah
they arent necessarily the same shotguns
there could be four shotguns that are all the same model
that doesnt imply the guns are made out of his cells
I just looked at him he doesnt have more then 2 guns on his body
Lots of grenades tho
you never see under his coat
Yeah
Yeah I don't remember anything else š
his shotguns that he pulls out are under his coat
WHERE IS THE GRENADE ABILITY BLIZZARD?
Look at an image of him I doubt he has his extra guns on his backside
Was it ever even an ability?
no
I'm pretty sure it was cut from the game
you cant see under the coat so he might
how are you goingto doubt something you cant see
whats more likely
reaper has magic infinite shotguns which are never explained in lore
or reaper just has 4 shotguns
weāve seen where he pulls his new pair from
magic infinite shotguns that are all filled with necrotic rounds*
Your assuming alot for no reason when you could see that he was experimented on by Moira through in game interactions and how he can break down his cells on and form them back together no reason he cant make new guns
breaking down cells and regenerating his cells doesnt imply he can make a gun
also, isnt there a spray where he opens his coat and you see alot of shotguns? I know it isnt supposed to be taken canon, but still
its a very reasonable assumption to think that reaper carries more than 2 shotguns
its not reasonable to think that reaper can regenerate and degenerate his cells into whatever he wants and he only chooses shotguns to do that with and that he has the expertise to build a shotgun
if reaper could make shotguns with his cells why would he only make shotguns
if that was a power he had it wouldnt make sense to only use it to make shotugns
Or its because shotguns are historically know for being the strongest weapons in a close range setting and we have seen from the cinematics that he can shoot from a distance beyond a normal shotgun and still be lethal showing that he can control the amount of power they exert on top of the fact that its just for in game balancing
shotguns are usually best effective 15-20m
thats their max
- with his use of necrotic rounds
where no matter where it hits you, itāll hurt
reaper isnt always in shotgun range there are times when shotguns arent the best weapons he never shoots an unreasonable amount of distance for a shotgun, shotguns have a lot more range than media depicts them to have in game balancing has never stopped the lore from showing more overpowered abilities like winston sym sigma and orisa
theres no evidence for reaper having infinite shotguns or that he can make shotguns at will
In a cinematic with the real one punch man
Thats the thing though it would make no sense for him to be able to through 20 guns on the floor unless he makes them which makes sense cause he can form his cells into a literal cloud to move around no reason he cant form them into guns I doubt Moira who worked on him would make it so he couldnt make weapons
he has never been shown in lore to have twenty guns at once
moira isnt some god that can give people the power to make stuff with their cells
his cells arent choosing to transform into a cloud thats the only thing he can transform into
if reaper was able to make things with his cells that wouldnt make any sense and would mess with every single one of his fights
But she did you can quote "You're one of my finest experiments. Reaper: Flattery will get you the grave." she also brings up that she doesnt want one of her best experiments to die we have no reason to assume she cant make it so he can form his cells as he wishes it also would clear up where his guns go when he is in wraith form if they werent part of his body why dont they just hit the floor?
being a good experiment != being able to form cells into anything
we have a lot of reasons to assume he cant form his cells into stuff
if he could why would he only use it for shotguns you keep dodging the question
wraith form has been shown to make other things disappear that arent reaper such as his clothes
i think teleport is just long fade but for purposes of the game itās way faster than it would be normally
Because he want to why does Hanzo use a bow he wants to why does Roadhog only use a shotgun when hes been shown when a rifle even other games Doom guy uses guns cause he likes them not because he needs to and for your final point we have no reason not to believe his clothes are apart of hjm (cells) and he can remove them whenever this is a pretty good theory that has been in the community for years I mean sense the game came out no reason to say its false when its been agreed on by the majority for years now
The big bang is a theory but still is pretty evidenced and backed up but hey Ill go message Geoff Goodman on twitter and we can hope he responds
there's a difference between a scientific theory and a general theory
hanzo uses a bow because guns make killing too simple
roadhog uses a shotgun because thats all he has he cant like go and buy a gun hes an international criminal
even if reaper did have some sentimental connection actually completing his talon missions would definitely come before that so when winston was going to beat him why wouldnt he just manifest a gun it doesnt make sense
there is nothing showing his clothes are a part of him
just because people believe it doesnt make it true there are many misconceptions about the lore
geoff goodman doesnt even work at blizzard anymore and like lore warlord said the use of the word theory is very different in a scientific context
even with all the evidence in the world the Big Bang will still be a theory because no one can for sure know how the universe was created
the reaper theory can be confirmed with one word from someone
Im sure he still would answer the question
the outlandish guess that reaper has the power to magically make shotguns and he never uses this power anywhere else even when it would be extremely useful to him isnt evidenced in lore
Why does syms left arm have a lack of real arm?
He has beat Winston every fight
hardlight architects have to have an artificial arm to like be able to build hardlight
no he hasnt
he has literally never beaten winston
what are you talking about
Okay, wanted to make sure I was right. Wasn't sure if she went through some world war or something
why do you need 3 doom pebbles to break symm turrets
?
I don't think thats a lore thing
my thing was because its associated to the character in lore
Overwatch
i wonder who would win doom vs sym
probably sym
it would still be cool to like see lore sym fight with all the possible things with hardlight
she doesnāt seem to have that much fighting experience I believe
atleast not doom level
Well Sym can just build
Sure doom can level a skyscraper
alright my bad lol
Loved it
we dont really know that its just based on some kid saying something
Oh
doom gauntlet is still exceedingly strong though
yea
What is he going to do? Unbuild it?
Honestly thought you were talking about her calling a kid ugly
i mean yeah
She can just
rebuild it
Also in what scenario would sym and doom fight?
isn't Vishkar apart of talons higher ups?
Vishkar is their own company
or someone in Vishkar?
not associated with talon
Swore I heard someone from Vishkar was seated in the Talon place
ehh i could see them wanting something vishkar isnāt willing to give
sanjay a higher up at vishkar is a major part of talon
Sanjay Korpal
yes thats who
thank you
Vishkar already has hardlight and biolight, I don't know why they'd work with Talon
Also why is Sanjay like three boxes with arms and legs?
but in any case i think doom could win but the tides seem extremely sym favored
but thereās still a lot we havenāt seen from both parties
They don't have Biolight(to my knowledge)
they do want it though
but Wifeleaver left with it
I think they developed it but the knowledge is with Lifeweaver
yeah i thought only lifeweaver had biolight
thats why he is wanted in 17 countries
He developed it using their tools, and left with it
Vishkar has no idea how biolight works but they want it because they're Vishkar
they want it because Niran used their tech to make it
I want reaper with a grenade launcher
He actually was supposed to have one
Like early early development
But they scrapped for reasons idk about
Honestly grateful because Reaper is already annoying af already
Lunar grenades
What
Bloodborne lore solos
Avengers but over a longer time and in the future
oh that sounds fun
I honestly think thatās part of why overwatch was so huge back in the day, because it was alongside all the mcu hype
And overwatch is like avengers but offbrand
If you're about to tell me why Reaper isn't actually annoying you're gonna just be talking to a wall
You can just walk away and he does tickle damage
reaper in lore is annoying too
bro shows up nearly kills you does a supervillain monologue and basically lets you win
plot
Reaper lore involves him getting destroyed in 95% of the fights he's in
he destroys then plot demands Winston wins so the story can move on
tbh thatās always the case with winston
heās getting destroyed but then his friends are getting hurt so he takes off his glasses and turns red
even then in the Museum fight, he was going toe to toe with Reaper
as I assume physical attacks dont damage reaper that much
he did not terrible at volskaya
He just couldnāt get to her in time
Bc of sombra
makes sense
he is pretty weak and doesnt have any abilities that would make him strong right?
Yes totally
i mean heās a super soldier and has ghost powers
he is top5-6 in the playable character roster lol
he is in no means weak
If Ball and Winston were to get into a fight, who would win? Disregarding plot armor.
Any... reason?
Right
and to say he beat Doom in a 1v1 in (implied) one punch
Right right but isn't Hammond also smart?
iād say he could probably squeeze Hammondās ball
Hammond is as smart as Winston
Winston used Hammondās rocketship schematics/design š¤·āāļø
theyāre about equal as Iād say
not much to go off of
hammond lowkey seems smarter or atleast more like clever
winton is like deadass smart but didnt hammond land on earth then just go and build a mech and win the reckoning at junker town
She had a cape then
It was lunch time during school, I was minding my business in the lunch line when my bullies cut in front of me. āHey look, Cornelius is doing a roadhog cosplay!ā Everyone laughed at me, I tried to resist my urge but I couldnāt. āWanna see roadhog? Fine, you leave me no choice.ā I hooked that boy up and bent him over, and blasted my āWhole hogā right into his body.
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i feel like im gucci mane in 2006š š š š šÆ š¦

I think the law enforcement skins are neat, but we will most likely never get another one ever again
Like the ones for Dva and brig are cool
And there will almost certainly not be a hero released with that background
So thatās about all we get
Reyes was a cop
it's funny that there's so much outcry about Brig's riot police skin now - I remember when Brig was added, a "riot shield" skin was top of the list for most skin suggestions
I have the DVA police skin and i love it
After getting spoiled every demon slayer death in #overwatch I Change my mind again ram is right kill humanity kill them all
(Iām not sane rn)
Same lol
I hated it
Same with Genji oni skin
at least it was just "play" matches, not "win" matches
True
Theyāre overrated af imo
He built that before escaping lunar colony as an safety pod, then he tinkered with it to turn it into a mech, he also designed the rocket Winston escaped in but Winston stole his design
Who tryna see a junkrat n ana relationship developing
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Ana + Roadhog
Their interactions surprised me
I didnāt expect the two of them to have unique lines like that
How am I shitposting I was talking abt lore stuff goofy
Do we all agree that lore wise, Sigma is pretty much the most powerful character. Like in a world of mostly gunplay and barely superhuman level feats, where one of the more powerful people is just a dude with a robot fist, I think Sigma with full control of gravity is pretty much the pinnacle of OW powerscaling for the moment
I mean presumably Aurora would be the most powerful character
She is said to have trascended existence itself and gave all omnics conscience
how would that make her the most powerful?
theoretically if she was able to give all omnics sentience she should be able to replicate a feat of the same kind
but due to her nature of selflessness and kindness she wouldnāt
she died to do it
or at least that's what's implied
it was a self sacrifice
and she didn't know it would work
journey took her to Shambali; her spiritual one, to a place of such selflessness that
she would sacrifice herself on the mere chance that we, too, could also
experience sentience.ā
āWaitā¦she did not know it would work?ā Satya was surprised. Self-sacrifice
for others was always noble. Choosing the path without certaintyāknowing that,
fail or succeed, she would be lostāmade Aurora perhaps the most courageous
individual Satya had heard of.
Zenyatta shook his head. āNo one could be sure. It was possible she could die
in the attemptā¦and any chance of omnic sentience would die with her. So perhaps
now you better understand why we were so devastated when her statue was
destroyed by your companyās development.ā```
weāre still missing a lot of details of how it really happened
anyhow lots of misinformation on my part
pardon me
people generally think sigma sym winston and orisa are the most powerful sigma hasn't been shown to have full control over gravity his control could be very weak
Why do people think echo is the strongest lore wise š
I personally agree
Because they believe she can copy any ability in lore, that's somewhat she does in game. They had that confused.
if she could copy any abilty she would be ridiculously strong but as she is shes probably like a tier
Even if she could that doesn't mean she has the same strength, speed, iq and battle iq right?
Only the abilities. Unless it's a ditto situation? Where they take everything? Personality too???
What would happen if she copied sigma? Would she be able to control the black holes or would they just tear her apart
Surely not
i mean sigma hasnt been shown to control black holes and she cant justcopy anyone
Although she does say "personality duplication complete"
Gravity* sorry
He doesn't control black holes. His mind god absolutely FUCKED by a black hole. He controls parts of gravity. But not all of it. Be simply is not stable.
I know the games aren't really lore accurate but why does everything he does got something to do with black holes? Like, he shoots black holes, his ultimate is a giant black hole, almost all of his emotes have stuff to do with black holes etc
Feel like it's a bit misleading from the devs to do all that and then not actually make him able to do it in lore
because that's his theme
i think you're confusing black holes with gravitons
also his ult is just picking people up and slammng them down not a black hole lol
There's a black hole in the middle is there not?
i dont think so
What's the difference?
i dont really know what his ult looks like though i havent played overwatch in a few weeks
gravitons are like less powerful ig
Ah right
that's just a visual effect
i mean zen canāt really do the stuff he does on his ult presumably
he can not
thatās a trend with a couple characters
Actually itās not just a visual effect, itās the LOS for the ult, anything that covers that little thing in the center cancels the ult
I mean the fact that it looks like a black hole
And ex: if youāre in a building and the hole isnāt inside then youāre safe, but if half of the center is visible to you then that means the ult will pull you up
Thatās what I understood atleast
Really? I didn't know that, cool
But uh itās not a black hole
Sigmas lore wise control of his powers are a farcry from his control in game
we havenāt really seen what he can do
From what we understand, his control over his powers is very limited
And not like how we see him in game
but if itās anything close to his in game abilities heās definitely in the more powerful side of characters
i heard he was gaining mastery over them while at talon
not sure if itās true but it makes the slightest sense
Gaining mastery ā mastered
never said otherwise
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They retelling brig story
"Brigitt-ey"
Itās supposed to
why is it so hard to pronounce her name correctly
eh
she says it herself
I guess itās more of an eh than ey
how does brig have hardlight?
her shield
but like how did she get a shield that has hardlight
I assume Vishkar manufactures it
i wonder why heres has so much more metal than reins
like reins is almost all hardlight
Reins is older
is hardlight stronger than metal?
not all hardlight is made by Vishkar
Then it would be too heavy to lift
Rein has a big shield cuz heās big
Heās strong enough to hold that shield
Also because Reinhardt takes 50% of the space on the shield
While brigs shield is mostly for self defense
i would assume hardlight is lighter than metal
Hardlight Iād assume is very light, or about the same weight as a glass panel
it could probably range from that weight
whatre the pollution levels in ow's earth?
just curious
usually in like cyberpunk futures theres some level of pollution thats damaging the earth
Thereās radiation pollution in Australia
i know austrailia was bombed or something, nuclear war and thats why its been reduced
Idk about other places
poofpy
No, an omnium exploded
ok
They are still struggling with global warming so Iām guessing pollution also
Why is widows lore so sad
Also it looks like sheās getting her emotions back
Through her voicelines
She never lost them
pretty sure she asked moira to suppress her feelings so that she didnāt enjoy killing
or something along the lines
its so feelings dont get in the way of her work
we saw what happened with Ana
she hesitated
Widowmaker loves the thrill of delivering the final blow
she still has feelings for her dead husband
wishing for more pharah comic time
sheās an interesting character to see personally
She does enjoy it
What is her new personality again?
personally just waiting for Hanzoās short story and the continuation of Ana and Soldier
Pharah is just a jock
Oh
Tbh I donāt like pharah as a character in game and as a person in the lore š¤·āāļø
she seemed much cooler
specially because of the thing she has going on with her mom
Yeah sheās kinda rude to her mom ngl
Ik Ana technically abandoned her and stuff but
I know, but Iād rather have that tbh
I also think she was interesting bc she wanted to join overwatch but couldnāt
For multiple reasons
weāll have to see what path the comics dictate for her
Ana wouldn't allow Overwatch to recruit her
and it seems like Overwatch only recruited exceptional people
I liked pharah for that
Ow and her mom
She was there to test a plane and then she had the accident
She was a good aviator I gusss?
she was a skilled pilot
Sheās exceptionally happy š³ļøāš
Overwatch recruited her to test their experimental teleporting fighter jet
And wibbly wobbly timey wimey
Iām surprised she didnāt go insane
After theoriginal incident
she was gone for a few months, phasing in and out of time
Wonder how long it took to get her back after Doomfist ripped the device off of her
it was probably faster, since they already had the device and knew what to look for
Winston would just have to build another one
Couldnāt an EMP be Tracerās worst nightmare?
it depends on how her device is built
Water
if itās not an electrical device I donāt think so
Water
If they want to kill any Overwatch agents just send Sombra to hack tracerās Chronal Accelerator
Sombraās echo locator is just a modified chronal accelerator isnāt it?
Or is it the pulse bomb
Yes
I think
correct
It counteracts her condition
Sombra's translocator uses the same tech as the Chronal Accelerator
but works differently
i see
I want lore about the creation of crusader armor
Sombra: What can I say? A girl just has to have the latest tech.```
Wouldnāt be surprised if the Crusader Armor was commissioned to the Ironclad Guild to make
Since Torb and Brig seem to know their way around the armor when repairing it
I have crusader armor irl
It doesnāt fit me
Bc those proportions are not human
Lol
it's based off medieval knights
yeah but it looks so much like the first iron man armor
specially with the center
and then the rocket in the back
we need a techno polka soundtrack in the game
Another melody for sigma to wonder over
Wtf is your pfp
which overwatch character yall think listens to yeat
is cassidy canonically european
What device are they talking about?
the Chronal Accelerator
Sombra's translocator
Orisa
I don't know how much more american you can get than Cassidy ngl
Ashe
He's American
tone's only come from living in a place for a very long time
Why would he be European?
What does Brig think of Soldier 76 and Ana?
She probably thinks highly of them since they were in Overwatch
wasn't brig pretty skeptical of the original overwatch team though
what language does lifeweaver speak?
Thai
And english too
I feel as though overwatch at some point is gonna get sigma out of talon. He will probably help him there and show his power. Maybe they help him re-piece his mind again and he begins his training to fully control his power.
Perhaps sombra helps.
Just something with sigma. Probably bc these sad voicelines are making me wanting him to get out of talon. Maybe they add an Overwatch skin like how he has a talon skin.
well first they'd need to fix his mental issue which is probably impossible
Ya. But still theres probably some sort of medical treatment if mercy can raise people from the dead... if thats canon.
Also there are mythical creatures too.
And seemingly magical healing.
Mercy can't raise people from the dead
at best she can give a burst of healing to someone who is incapacitated, like we saw her do to Mei in Zero Hour
if kiriko can summon a speed shrine with a an intangible spirit fox i think they can get sigma some meds
I want sigma to leave talon and if he does to join overwatch the next fight against doomfist would go way different
Man im ngl for me the best thing about overwatch is the lore. I really hope that the campaign at least gives us a good story smoothly. I do not care about the game play of the campaign just please be a good story
Thats why we need a movie of overwatch cause the lore is so good
Or a tv show like how league got, but apparently it took years to make and was like 100m $ (dont hold me up on this im not sure)
yeah but either a movie or tv show would be sick
btw have u seen the leak that rein might die in the campaign
If i ever become a billionaire first thing im gonna do is fund the overwatch lore
fr
Not really but i expected him to die either way
yeh but if he dies no more shelbehop
also any news on campaign release or nah? Wasnt it supposed to be early 2023
i think heros dying in lore won't make it so that they're unplayable in game
true that makes sense
its supposed to release this year
thats all google says
is there any video/series of videos explaining ALL of the overwatch lore?
i know thereās a couple non official ones with passable credibility
"Theres already one"
Like
Not really but we're not getting a movie anytime soon so we'll have to stick to the "Every OW cinematic compilation" vid
Pretty sure not. Her Junker skins are not canon
is there magic in ow or
cus what the fuck is kiriko's ult
and hanzos?
@ me with reply
Before Kiriko, Blizz had just made an excuse that magic didn't exist in the Overwatch universe, and that Hanzo and Genji's dragons are "spirits". But now with Kiriko there's literally no excuse anymore cuz that's definitely magic
Bro The orchestra skin for Sigma looks like spongebobs voice actor
They didn't say the "just spirits" part, it was left unexplained
It was speculated to be Hard Light, since Hanzo's dragons behaves identically to Symmetra's hard light orbs
But no its just magic now
kiriko was intentionally said to be guarded by a spirit though, so this time they actually said spirit right?
like its literally a fox spirit in the lore
but the idea that spirits exist is either paranormal or magic itself
š§āāļø
and kiriko is into tarot..
so magic would make more sense
kinda like a floating robot monk with floating orbs lol
Okay, thanks
okay, but, hover tech is pretty easy
wb discord orb tech
Pretty sure none of zenās abilities are lore accurate
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does echo have a gender
she's female
ok
sigma sym winston and orisa are generally believed to be the strongest
sigma is probably stronger than doom
we dont really know how strong sigmas gravity control is
what OW maps are real places
I think all of them
numbani isnt real
oh shit rlly
But the buildings donāt
i think rialto is a real place
Yeah like Midtown and Antarctic Peninsula exist IRL
it would be awesome if they were based off of the IRL places
sub some non real elements like the omnics in the boats
But donāt look the same
Like for Midtown, the entrance to Grand Central Terminal is on top of the bridge and there isnāt a fire station nearby
yeah havanas real cuz irl havana has the coloured houses, same in the game
eichenwalde is a real place
i dont think its followed directly or anything
but there is a real place in germany called eichenwalde
maybe the OW maps are future predictions to what they would look like in the future
maybe an omnic crisis will exist in 2077

the omnic crisis would be in the 2040s not the 2070s
55 years prior to when OW takes place
who knows
if ppl give robots their own feelings theres probably gonna be an omnic crisis
Havana is real but the actual map isnāt
omnics only got feelings by aurora which i assume was after the war
hey guys I want to now who is the founder of Overwatch?
there were 6 founding members
Jack Morrison
Gabriel Reyes
Ana Amari
Reinhardt Wilhelm
Torbjorn Lindholm
Dr. Mina Liao
New overwatch is Winston not dr Winston
Is their any other confirmed overwatch 2 members aside of mai, rein, winton, tracer, brig, echo, Genji, and mercy
Also sry to my Australians one of my best friends dads are from their but everything in overwatch is just our future
My evidence is junkertown
And anything in Australia
Technically, itās Gabrielle Adawe that made the first Overwatch possible
zarya pharah dva bap
thats crazy
not like i didnt know that
im saying the buildings in dorado are similar to a town in italy
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oh look
i was right
Yep
Dorado's in mexico but its style is based on an Italian place
They've stepped up map research/accuracy a lot since the release day ones
Volskaya is supposed to be in St. Petersburg but has the Kremlin on the other side of the river
Is Cassidy even in overwatch anymore or is he his own party
He is
New Blood was him collecting new people for OW at Ana's request
Ana's request ?
So deadlock < overwatch < blackwatch < overwatch?
No
He was only in Blackwatch the first time around
But Blackwatch was itself part of overwatch
I see
So more like deadlock - BW - on his own - new OW
im almost sure it wasnāt under Anaās request
she just gave him the names and left it as his decision
That's what a request is
If it wasn't his decision it would be an order
a request would be her asking him to do it
she did
Cassidy looks like heās 20 in that comic
art is subjective
To me he looks like a dog in that picture
rude
To me, he looks awesome in that picture
I thought Ana technically faked her death WHATS she doing with him?
She didn't keep her secret from everyone
Soldier knows since she's been running with her, she sent Pharah a letter
She revealed herself to Cass because she felt it was important enough
And to tell nobody right? But if cass was recruited where did he go? Did Ana just walk up to his door step?
She called him to her
You can read the comic on the Overwatch website
It's in the comic yea
Got it
and cass joined OW with his new "hires"
Got it
So where are we at now currently is that all?
I feel like games gotten more love then the lore
At least lately
ā¦no

is null sector just racist robots
well
humans are racist to the robots
so they racist back
no
null sector isnt racist
they dont hate humans as a whole
null sector is a terrorist group but its not racist
no coz zen trained genji and genji is a huma well cyborg but you get. What I mean
?
Let me call ram the most racist overwatch hero in peace please
zen has no conncetion to null sector
doesnt ram like lead null sector and he hates humans like a lot
oh itās about null sector
jq junkrat and hog are most racist
sry then lmao
he just wants equality
he does bad things to get it like murdering hundreds of people
Hog is racist because his wife and kids died š
but hes not racist
he wants a better life for omnics
ayy honestly even if he was racist i wouldnt care cuz his voice lines go hard asf
isnt thta just a headcanon?
yea i think its just a theory after reading through his bio
what yall think is like the best roadhog skin
mf had his bio pulled up
i think the militia one has the best guns
i like the mako one where he has like a shark costume
plz go to #general-discussion for these questions
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sorry but- š¤
wat
anyways sym lowkey slays
mine is Midas
I love on how Sym is the only technical orphan to still have her actual parents alive
do you guys think Ashe could join overwatch?
i doubt she would
Why ?
i mean there could be something like cassidy where she gets captured and forced to join but i doubt that would happen
she likes having her own rules
...
Gautier you asked
they might be racist cuz they like really hate human
So you should've clarified
they hate most humans
there are exceptions
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Iād like to see her work with overwatch in some way but it seems unlikely
Yeah i just said ''why''
and you went ... as if I did something that upset you
Messages can be perceived in many ways
I'm not upset don't worry. Now we don't talk about it anymore.
Oh thank God theyāre just terrorists

fr
Hey, so, why does Reaper just get new shotguns instead of reloading the ones he already has
video game
What he said
So according to some new dialogue, it sounds like Sojourn has a lover, idk tho
It is in game dialogue after all
saw that
the convo with mercy?
in-game interactions are hypothetical
yeah
meaning the information in them is true, they just haven't said it
so it's likely Sojourn is seeing someone
You mean mercy?
Boffum
if bap was talking about someone in a romantic sense its probably lifeweaver
No I mean thereās a voice line between bap and mercy where he asks her if sheās looking for a partner and that he knows someone with few doctorates or something like that
i would have to see the voiceline idk who he could be talking about
genji is probably the person mercy is talking about but idk for bap
lifeweaver might have a few doctorates but that wouldnt really make sense
Bap exists to flirt with others, thatās all I can gather from him now
Flirt with others, and be sarcastic when healing
āThank you Baptiste. Oh youāre welcomeā

Well heās not talking about himself,
Sure heās handsome and kind but afaik Baptiste doesnāt have any doctorates
Heās a medic but not a medical doctor
No, he dropped out
LifeWeaver is literally the Bill Gates of OW
He doesnāt even have masters degree most likely
Dropped out of college, went on to invent/innovate a new impactful technology
Wait did Baptiste meet sigma in talon?
If yes then what if heās talking about sigma?
And mercy also knows Siebren probably
he dropped out of Vishkar, but he could have gotten other education
How long time skip from ow1 ow2?
I know omnic junkrat and roadhog is just a skin but dose it mean that they both become one in the future-
Well I mean like genji with him being part omnic
Buddy I donāt think thatās how it works
Alright I get it Iām sorry I donāt do lore often and the omnic skins just made me want to try it
Genji uses the same technology as omnics
But an omnic is like a sentient robot that was built in an omnium
Or just a robot built in an omnium thereās different definitions
So you think Junkrat and roadhog are wearing omnic heads in their new skins while still being human underneath or are just omnic versions of them?
Shrodingerās junkers
A better version of my question
it's just omnic versions of them
That being said what would humanize omnics look like. Probably cursed
Ramattra would probably have dreads
fanart goes wild in stuff like that, not really a place for it here
Don't forget BAWB
reinhardt smash
....that is something he does, yes
He dose in fact smash
Ik the map topic is done but Ilios is based on a real place, look up Santorini
Beautiful place
most maps are
We donāt know, just like we donāt know if he met Baptiste
So I donāt know which person with few doctorates is he talking about
Lifeweaver is living in the Atlantic Arcology - so there must be a lot of people there with quite a few doctorates, since it's "a freestanding and self-sustaining scientific and ecological city in the Atlantic Ocean, free from the governing laws of any nation on the planet." Niran could have his doctorates in this city, even.
@grand wedge
But since you brought it up Iām curious if thatās gonna be the next map
Highly probable imo since itās been mentioned on many other maps like midtown, esperanca, numbani and afaik itās the only place from mentioned places we havenāt gotten yet
Yeah, I was expecting the Arcology last season, instead of Antarctica. But, I'm now wondering if the Arcology will be featured as one of the new maps for the new PVP core gamemode that was beeing teased for a while?
Itās possible 
What game mode
New PvP game mode
If you want, that would be a new PvP competitive game mode with several maps and like Gwadael said, i think AA will come out with this.
From the "mapping out the future" article from Aaron (February 3, 2023) :
Since Push has fewer maps than other game modes this could cause those maps to come up more frequently than game modes with more maps. Weāre looking into a way to mitigate this, targeted for a future season. This is even more important considering that we have another new game mode with new maps scheduled for a seasonal release later this year.
We know that PVE is coming obviously, but he is talking about the map pool in QP and Competitive, so it's implied that there is a PVP mode somewhere with multiple maps coming out at some point
I still get push very often :c
Thatās my favorite game mode

I hate that fucking map
Fire in the whole
How the heck are junkrat and Roadhog not caught yet
They were kicked out of Junkertown is all we know
I mean the crime spree
At least i think so
And the international man hunt
is there an in lore reason why overwatch starts gun fights around the gloobe between its members and random criminals with unconwentionall weapons?

they use weapons that are warcrimes to use on the daily
That's what i thought
then WHY IS IT THERE?
because video game
AND NOT PVE
they're working on it
PvE will come out later
every single thing in tf2 has reason to be there including PvE
so?
tf2 lore is better
okay
blizzard f ing sucks
then why are you here?

games still good
atleast the original
and the 2 is the first but more heros and seasons
OW2 is a sequel of OW lore
sequels are often "the same game but more"
didnt it collapse before the 1st game
the fall of Overwatch was before the first game, yes
the second game happens after Overwatch is reformed
5 years ago i think
Overwatch collapsed 7-9 years ago


So
What would be magic canonically?
Do we not know what it's boundaries are
Or there is a set limit
To what can and cannot be done
we don't know the limits
but it's likely not widespread or very powerful or it would be more prevalent than technology
correct
It's not the strongest sign but she's an important part of a very important place for magic
So
Thank you, very much
I was planning to create a character but didn't know the limits of what magic could be
This'll be of great help
Again, thank you
What do we know about Luna?
I need healing
She's a cabaret singer
And an omnic
That's about it
Isnāt she a part of some omnic liberation group?
!!loretext
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Experimental Weapon Stolen: http://bit.ly/2fMrKsj
Lucio's Synaesthesia World Tour: http://bit.ly/2flja2U
LumƩriCo: http://bit.ly/1XAJfd1
Overwatch is Back: http://bit.ly/1TAWebT
LumƩriCo Revealed: http://bit.ly/2e6P5oj
Portero Steps Down: http://bit.ly/2fk8Bes
Efi Oladele Interview: http://bit.ly/2miMZkT
Horizon Lunar Colony: http://bit.ly/2reMSKx
Attack on Helix: http://bit.ly/2tn45mk
Oslo Attack: https://bit.ly/2uHKXUr
Don Rumbotico: https://bit.ly/2VtzZKX
Documents:
Mei's Adventure: http://bit.ly/2fMxRg4
Torb's Letter: http://bit.ly/2HK4CWa
Venice Declassified: https://bit.ly/2Hs807B
Cuerva: https://bit.ly/2BHEqd9
Yamagami: https://bit.ly/2XJC9Jr
Travel Guides:
Oasis: http://bit.ly/2iPTM4K
Paris: https://bit.ly/2GEyOoq
Short Stories and Novels:
Use !!loreStories to see short stories and novels
Doesn't say she is in the travel guide
None
it's possible
Ok so apparently widowmaker canāt feel emotion right? Then why does she smile in some of her POTGs and in her cinematic while assassinating mondatta
We also see her laughing in one of her emotes
So whatās up with that?
she can feel emotion
Fr?
yeah
My sources are bad then
in a comic she visits gerards(her husbands) grave
Ah okay
Literally darth Vader of ow
Sheās able to feel emotion, itās just mostly suppressed
im almost sure theyāre just supressed
don't
be
Could anyone please elaborate or explain what Genjiās/Zenyattaās philosophy is?
In OW1, he was unhappy that he was made of so much metal, he didnāt feel human, etc.
But as the lore has progressed, it seems like being taken under Zenyattaās guidance made Genji come to terms with who he is
But do we know actually why heās fine with it now?
to put more on what Doctor said;
Zenyatta helped Genji find peace within himself, understanding his body and becoming thankful and to be at peace with it. Zenyatta may have also helped Genji get rid of the anger/rage he had in himself from when Hanzo brutally injured him. Which is why Genji told Hanzo that he has forgave him
Is the rage what motivated him to join Blackwatch?
he was forced to join blackwatch
he was offered a chance at revenge against his clan, and he took it
he wasn't forced to join
his choice was to like live as an amputee or join blackwatch though
it was still a choice
Technically, since he wanted to take revenge on Hanzo he had no choice but to accept their offer and build him a new body
I mean, you canāt take revenge on someone with 1/4th of your body, can you?
So for the sake of revenge, he was forced.
he was only paralyzed from confirmed media
his severed limbs could be from surgery
etc
is there an ana skin that's like a ghillie suit?
i think there's like foliage on her rifle too
thats my mom in the iraqi war, so halal mom
She isn't Iraqi
Btw if he was rebuilt by Moira would he have similar powers to reaper?
he wasnt rebuild by moira tho we know that
moira joined after genji
Okay does anyone know exactly what happened to cassās arm?
nobody knows
never has been talked about really
Odd
its more that its not actually important
That is a very badass skin. I should definitely buy it sometime
Which character is stronger in the lore? Doomfist or ramattra?
Theoretically, theyāre about on par. Ram being more tactical and Doom more brute strength
But actually, we have no clue
Doom is both
bob ripped it off
I wish weād get an animated short with Sigma in it. Maybe an archive cutscene where heās the boss fight and they let him go mad with his powers
He deserves more
He truly does
Weāre totally gonna get a sigma boss fight in pve right
Maybe we break into a talon lab and he is there and heās so scared at seeing us that he goes āVIOLENCEā mode
I wonder what pve talents sig will get
soldier 76 is gay
He is only gay because heās an old white man character
Rein and Sigma are not American so that excludes them
Itās for that diversity graph that blizzard wanted to use but the designers are like bro no wtf
true
She is lesbian?
No
im talking about sexuality genuis
Sheās definitely bi for sure 
Being a femboy is not a sexuality
Lmfao
me and d.va are twins
but yeah back to our discussion
Wife leaver is a femboy, but heās pan
Relatable 
''Wife leaver''
W
i think most of the ow2 characters are LGBTQ+
Probably
I thought before that Kiriko is a tomboy LOL
Bc his name is destiny
She is I guess
provbe me wrong, kiriko is hot
Bro she probably is
More like kiriko is not
Indeed she is
L opinion

Thatās what being gay will do to ya
She is kinda boyish
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I still think she's cute
kiriko is a girl
Very good waifu
rei ayanami
u r the type to kiss pixels and those pixels consisting of mercy
And I'm not even a weeb to say that Kiriko is a very good waifu
Thatās literally you
i have other pixels to kiss
i wonder if my girlfriend plays ow2
her skins are cool
whos the worst looking chjaracter in ow2, i go with phara
Bro no
Moira!!!
Pharah is very attractive
thats an actual jester
Yes!!!
When you hate older people lol
Tf did lore chat turn into 
But I think Ana is attractive
Thatās bc she is
lore chat turned into charactrer rating 1-10
cuz of me


