#lore-discussion

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fickle flower
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the ones he pulls out are new

ivory garnet
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yeah

rare trail
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they arent necessarily the same shotguns

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there could be four shotguns that are all the same model

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that doesnt imply the guns are made out of his cells

hidden mist
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I just looked at him he doesnt have more then 2 guns on his body

analog niche
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Lots of grenades tho

ivory garnet
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you never see under his coat

hidden mist
fickle flower
ivory garnet
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his shotguns that he pulls out are under his coat

analog niche
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WHERE IS THE GRENADE ABILITY BLIZZARD?

hidden mist
fickle flower
ivory garnet
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no

fickle flower
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I'm pretty sure it was cut from the game

rare trail
ivory garnet
rare trail
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whats more likely
reaper has magic infinite shotguns which are never explained in lore
or reaper just has 4 shotguns

ivory garnet
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we’ve seen where he pulls his new pair from

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magic infinite shotguns that are all filled with necrotic rounds*

hidden mist
# rare trail you cant see under the coat so he might

Your assuming alot for no reason when you could see that he was experimented on by Moira through in game interactions and how he can break down his cells on and form them back together no reason he cant make new guns

rare trail
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breaking down cells and regenerating his cells doesnt imply he can make a gun

ivory garnet
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also, isnt there a spray where he opens his coat and you see alot of shotguns? I know it isnt supposed to be taken canon, but still

rare trail
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its a very reasonable assumption to think that reaper carries more than 2 shotguns

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its not reasonable to think that reaper can regenerate and degenerate his cells into whatever he wants and he only chooses shotguns to do that with and that he has the expertise to build a shotgun

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if reaper could make shotguns with his cells why would he only make shotguns

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if that was a power he had it wouldnt make sense to only use it to make shotugns

hidden mist
ivory garnet
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shotguns are usually best effective 15-20m

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thats their max

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  • with his use of necrotic rounds
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where no matter where it hits you, it’ll hurt

rare trail
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theres no evidence for reaper having infinite shotguns or that he can make shotguns at will

analog niche
hidden mist
rare trail
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he has never been shown in lore to have twenty guns at once

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moira isnt some god that can give people the power to make stuff with their cells

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his cells arent choosing to transform into a cloud thats the only thing he can transform into

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if reaper was able to make things with his cells that wouldnt make any sense and would mess with every single one of his fights

hidden mist
# rare trail moira isnt some god that can give people the power to make stuff with their cell...

But she did you can quote "You're one of my finest experiments. Reaper: Flattery will get you the grave." she also brings up that she doesnt want one of her best experiments to die we have no reason to assume she cant make it so he can form his cells as he wishes it also would clear up where his guns go when he is in wraith form if they werent part of his body why dont they just hit the floor?

rare trail
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we have a lot of reasons to assume he cant form his cells into stuff

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if he could why would he only use it for shotguns you keep dodging the question

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wraith form has been shown to make other things disappear that arent reaper such as his clothes

upbeat violet
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i think teleport is just long fade but for purposes of the game it’s way faster than it would be normally

hidden mist
# rare trail if he could why would he only use it for shotguns you keep dodging the question

Because he want to why does Hanzo use a bow he wants to why does Roadhog only use a shotgun when hes been shown when a rifle even other games Doom guy uses guns cause he likes them not because he needs to and for your final point we have no reason not to believe his clothes are apart of hjm (cells) and he can remove them whenever this is a pretty good theory that has been in the community for years I mean sense the game came out no reason to say its false when its been agreed on by the majority for years now

upbeat violet
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it’s still a theory you yourself said it

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a ā€œgood theoryā€ but still a theory

hidden mist
peak escarp
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there's a difference between a scientific theory and a general theory

rare trail
# hidden mist Because he want to why does Hanzo use a bow he wants to why does Roadhog only us...

hanzo uses a bow because guns make killing too simple
roadhog uses a shotgun because thats all he has he cant like go and buy a gun hes an international criminal
even if reaper did have some sentimental connection actually completing his talon missions would definitely come before that so when winston was going to beat him why wouldnt he just manifest a gun it doesnt make sense
there is nothing showing his clothes are a part of him
just because people believe it doesnt make it true there are many misconceptions about the lore

rare trail
upbeat violet
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the reaper theory can be confirmed with one word from someone

hidden mist
rare trail
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the outlandish guess that reaper has the power to magically make shotguns and he never uses this power anywhere else even when it would be extremely useful to him isnt evidenced in lore

worthy rose
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Why does syms left arm have a lack of real arm?

hidden mist
rare trail
rare trail
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he has literally never beaten winston

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what are you talking about

worthy rose
weary raptor
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why do you need 3 doom pebbles to break symm turrets

rare trail
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?

worthy rose
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my thing was because its associated to the character in lore

weary raptor
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Overwatch

rare trail
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i wonder who would win doom vs sym

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probably sym

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it would still be cool to like see lore sym fight with all the possible things with hardlight

upbeat violet
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she doesn’t seem to have that much fighting experience I believe

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atleast not doom level

worthy rose
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Well Sym can just build

worthy rose
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Sure doom can level a skyscraper

worthy rose
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called a little girl ugly

upbeat violet
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alright my bad lol

worthy rose
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Loved it

rare trail
worthy rose
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Oh

rare trail
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doom gauntlet is still exceedingly strong though

worthy rose
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well still

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Sym can just build

rare trail
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yea

worthy rose
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What is he going to do? Unbuild it?

worthy rose
upbeat violet
worthy rose
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She can just

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rebuild it

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Also in what scenario would sym and doom fight?

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isn't Vishkar apart of talons higher ups?

wind portal
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Vishkar is their own company

worthy rose
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or someone in Vishkar?

wind portal
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not associated with talon

worthy rose
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Swore I heard someone from Vishkar was seated in the Talon place

upbeat violet
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ehh i could see them wanting something vishkar isn’t willing to give

rare trail
worthy rose
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thank you

wind portal
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Vishkar already has hardlight and biolight, I don't know why they'd work with Talon

worthy rose
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Also why is Sanjay like three boxes with arms and legs?

upbeat violet
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but in any case i think doom could win but the tides seem extremely sym favored

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but there’s still a lot we haven’t seen from both parties

worthy rose
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they do want it though

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but Wifeleaver left with it

wind portal
rare trail
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yeah i thought only lifeweaver had biolight

worthy rose
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thats why he is wanted in 17 countries

worthy rose
potent briar
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Vishkar has no idea how biolight works but they want it because they're Vishkar

peak escarp
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they want it because Niran used their tech to make it

hushed cape
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I want reaper with a grenade launcher

potent briar
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He actually was supposed to have one

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Like early early development

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But they scrapped for reasons idk about

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Honestly grateful because Reaper is already annoying af already

manic girder
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Lunar grenades

analog niche
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What

hollow meteor
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guys im kinda dumb and new here can someone explain the lore

worthy rose
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Bloodborne lore solos

analog niche
hollow meteor
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oh that sounds fun

analog niche
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I honestly think that’s part of why overwatch was so huge back in the day, because it was alongside all the mcu hype

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And overwatch is like avengers but offbrand

potent briar
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If you're about to tell me why Reaper isn't actually annoying you're gonna just be talking to a wall

golden oak
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You can just walk away and he does tickle damage

rare trail
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reaper in lore is annoying too

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bro shows up nearly kills you does a supervillain monologue and basically lets you win

ivory garnet
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plot

native oasis
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Reaper lore involves him getting destroyed in 95% of the fights he's in

ivory garnet
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he destroys then plot demands Winston wins so the story can move on

upbeat violet
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tbh that’s always the case with winston

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he’s getting destroyed but then his friends are getting hurt so he takes off his glasses and turns red

ivory garnet
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even then in the Museum fight, he was going toe to toe with Reaper

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as I assume physical attacks dont damage reaper that much

analog niche
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he did not terrible at volskaya

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He just couldn’t get to her in time

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Bc of sombra

tepid sinew
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he is pretty weak and doesnt have any abilities that would make him strong right?

fresh rock
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Yes totally

upbeat violet
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i mean he’s a super soldier and has ghost powers

ivory garnet
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he is in no means weak

fresh rock
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If Ball and Winston were to get into a fight, who would win? Disregarding plot armor.

ivory garnet
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Winston

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he’d use Hammond like a pinball

fresh rock
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Any... reason?

ivory garnet
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Hammond is only a Junker champion

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Winston actually does fieldwork

fresh rock
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Right

ivory garnet
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and to say he beat Doom in a 1v1 in (implied) one punch

fresh rock
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Right right but isn't Hammond also smart?

ivory garnet
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i’d say he could probably squeeze Hammond’s ball

analog niche
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No

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He’s a hamster

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Hamsters aren’t smart

ivory garnet
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Hammond is as smart as Winston

analog niche
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Actually

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Who is smarter?

ivory garnet
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they’re about equal as I’d say

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not much to go off of

tepid sinew
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winton is like deadass smart but didnt hammond land on earth then just go and build a mech and win the reckoning at junker town

upbeat violet
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not the reckoning

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but a mech contest I think it was

analog niche
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She had a cape then

prisma yacht
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It was lunch time during school, I was minding my business in the lunch line when my bullies cut in front of me. ā€œHey look, Cornelius is doing a roadhog cosplay!ā€ Everyone laughed at me, I tried to resist my urge but I couldn’t. ā€œWanna see roadhog? Fine, you leave me no choice.ā€ I hooked that boy up and bent him over, and blasted my ā€œWhole hogā€ right into his body.

rare trail
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!!shitposting

twilit nacelleBOT
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Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

quiet rune
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What the fuck did I just witness

modern sail
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i feel like im gucci mane in 2006šŸ™ 😈 šŸ˜Ž šŸ†™ šŸ’Æ šŸ’¦

analog niche
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I think the law enforcement skins are neat, but we will most likely never get another one ever again

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Like the ones for Dva and brig are cool

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And there will almost certainly not be a hero released with that background

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So that’s about all we get

peak escarp
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Reyes was a cop

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it's funny that there's so much outcry about Brig's riot police skin now - I remember when Brig was added, a "riot shield" skin was top of the list for most skin suggestions

true locust
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I have the DVA police skin and i love it

peak escarp
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I played HotS to get that skin

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HotS sucked but the skin is good

valid scarab
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After getting spoiled every demon slayer death in #overwatch I Change my mind again ram is right kill humanity kill them all

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(I’m not sane rn)

analog niche
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I hated it

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Same with Genji oni skin

peak escarp
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at least it was just "play" matches, not "win" matches

analog niche
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True

peak escarp
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and I learned something very valuable

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I learned that I do not enjoy MOBAs

analog niche
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To not play hots

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Lol

golden oak
golden oak
hoary shoal
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Who tryna see a junkrat n ana relationship developing

dense nebula
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!!shitposting

twilit nacelleBOT
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Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

analog niche
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Their interactions surprised me

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I didn’t expect the two of them to have unique lines like that

hoary shoal
zealous pumice
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Do we all agree that lore wise, Sigma is pretty much the most powerful character. Like in a world of mostly gunplay and barely superhuman level feats, where one of the more powerful people is just a dude with a robot fist, I think Sigma with full control of gravity is pretty much the pinnacle of OW powerscaling for the moment

upbeat violet
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I mean presumably Aurora would be the most powerful character

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She is said to have trascended existence itself and gave all omnics conscience

peak escarp
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how would that make her the most powerful?

upbeat violet
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theoretically if she was able to give all omnics sentience she should be able to replicate a feat of the same kind

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but due to her nature of selflessness and kindness she wouldn’t

peak escarp
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she died to do it

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or at least that's what's implied

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it was a self sacrifice

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and she didn't know it would work

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journey took her to Shambali; her spiritual one, to a place of such selflessness that
she would sacrifice herself on the mere chance that we, too, could also
experience sentience.ā€
ā€œWait…she did not know it would work?ā€ Satya was surprised. Self-sacrifice
for others was always noble. Choosing the path without certainty—knowing that,
fail or succeed, she would be lost—made Aurora perhaps the most courageous
individual Satya had heard of.
Zenyatta shook his head. ā€œNo one could be sure. It was possible she could die
in the attempt…and any chance of omnic sentience would die with her. So perhaps
now you better understand why we were so devastated when her statue was
destroyed by your company’s development.ā€```
upbeat violet
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we’re still missing a lot of details of how it really happened

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anyhow lots of misinformation on my part

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pardon me

rare trail
worthy rose
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Why do people think echo is the strongest lore wise šŸ’€

fresh rock
rare trail
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if she could copy any abilty she would be ridiculously strong but as she is shes probably like a tier

worthy rose
fresh rock
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Only the abilities. Unless it's a ditto situation? Where they take everything? Personality too???

worthy rose
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What would happen if she copied sigma? Would she be able to control the black holes or would they just tear her apart

rare trail
worthy rose
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Although she does say "personality duplication complete"

fresh rock
worthy rose
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I know the games aren't really lore accurate but why does everything he does got something to do with black holes? Like, he shoots black holes, his ultimate is a giant black hole, almost all of his emotes have stuff to do with black holes etc

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Feel like it's a bit misleading from the devs to do all that and then not actually make him able to do it in lore

peak escarp
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because that's his theme

rare trail
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i think you're confusing black holes with gravitons

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also his ult is just picking people up and slammng them down not a black hole lol

worthy rose
rare trail
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i dont think so

worthy rose
rare trail
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i dont really know what his ult looks like though i havent played overwatch in a few weeks

rare trail
worthy rose
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Ah right

peak escarp
upbeat violet
worthy rose
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Maybe?

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No idea

peak escarp
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he can not

upbeat violet
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that’s a trend with a couple characters

white cairn
peak escarp
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I mean the fact that it looks like a black hole

white cairn
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And ex: if you’re in a building and the hole isn’t inside then you’re safe, but if half of the center is visible to you then that means the ult will pull you up

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That’s what I understood atleast

worthy rose
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Really? I didn't know that, cool

white cairn
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But uh it’s not a black hole

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Sigmas lore wise control of his powers are a farcry from his control in game

upbeat violet
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we haven’t really seen what he can do

white cairn
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From what we understand, his control over his powers is very limited

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And not like how we see him in game

upbeat violet
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but if it’s anything close to his in game abilities he’s definitely in the more powerful side of characters

upbeat violet
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not sure if it’s true but it makes the slightest sense

white cairn
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Gaining mastery ≠ mastered

upbeat violet
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never said otherwise

white cobalt
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They retelling brig story

peak escarp
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"Brigitt-ey"

vocal marsh
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It’s supposed to

peak escarp
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why is it so hard to pronounce her name correctly

vocal marsh
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eh

peak escarp
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she says it herself

vocal marsh
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I guess it’s more of an eh than ey

peak escarp
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the last syllable is soft, like a schwa

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Brigittə

rare trail
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how does brig have hardlight?

vocal marsh
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Apparently it’s supposed to be eh not ah

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It’s in her shield I assume

peak escarp
rare trail
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but like how did she get a shield that has hardlight

vocal marsh
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I assume Vishkar manufactures it

rare trail
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i wonder why heres has so much more metal than reins

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like reins is almost all hardlight

vocal marsh
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Reins is older

rare trail
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is hardlight stronger than metal?

peak escarp
white cairn
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Rein has a big shield cuz he’s big

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He’s strong enough to hold that shield

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Also because Reinhardt takes 50% of the space on the shield

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While brigs shield is mostly for self defense

rare trail
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i would assume hardlight is lighter than metal

ivory garnet
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Hardlight I’d assume is very light, or about the same weight as a glass panel

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it could probably range from that weight

primal fox
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whatre the pollution levels in ow's earth?

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just curious
usually in like cyberpunk futures theres some level of pollution thats damaging the earth

golden oak
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There’s radiation pollution in Australia

primal fox
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i know austrailia was bombed or something, nuclear war and thats why its been reduced

golden oak
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Idk about other places

primal fox
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poofpy

primal fox
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ok

golden oak
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They are still struggling with global warming so I’m guessing pollution also

worthy rose
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Why is widows lore so sad

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Also it looks like she’s getting her emotions back

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Through her voicelines

limpid agate
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She never lost them

golden oak
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They were suppressed I think

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Or something

upbeat violet
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pretty sure she asked moira to suppress her feelings so that she didn’t enjoy killing

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or something along the lines

ivory garnet
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its so feelings dont get in the way of her work

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we saw what happened with Ana

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she hesitated

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Widowmaker loves the thrill of delivering the final blow

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she still has feelings for her dead husband

upbeat violet
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wishing for more pharah comic time

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she’s an interesting character to see personally

analog niche
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I don’t like pharah’s new personality

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Just bc it feels weird from before

dense nebula
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What is her new personality again?

ivory garnet
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personally just waiting for Hanzo’s short story and the continuation of Ana and Soldier

peak escarp
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Pharah is just a jock

dense nebula
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Oh

golden oak
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Tbh I don’t like pharah as a character in game and as a person in the lore šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

upbeat violet
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she seemed much cooler

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specially because of the thing she has going on with her mom

golden oak
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Yeah she’s kinda rude to her mom ngl

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Ik Ana technically abandoned her and stuff but

analog niche
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I hate this jock personality for her

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It’s weird

peak escarp
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she didn't have much of a personality before

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just mommy issues

analog niche
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I know, but I’d rather have that tbh

upbeat violet
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yeah

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she has a lot of potential to grow though

analog niche
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I also think she was interesting bc she wanted to join overwatch but couldn’t

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For multiple reasons

upbeat violet
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we’ll have to see what path the comics dictate for her

peak escarp
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for multiple reasons?

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there was really only one reason she couldn't join Overwatch

analog niche
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Ok so like two

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Kinda her mom

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But I guess not really ā€œcouldn’tā€ bc of that

peak escarp
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Ana wouldn't allow Overwatch to recruit her

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and it seems like Overwatch only recruited exceptional people

analog niche
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I liked pharah for that

dense nebula
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So why’s Tracer there then

analog niche
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Ow and her mom

upbeat violet
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She was a good aviator I gusss?

peak escarp
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she was a skilled pilot

analog niche
peak escarp
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Overwatch recruited her to test their experimental teleporting fighter jet

analog niche
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And wibbly wobbly timey wimey

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I’m surprised she didn’t go insane

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After theoriginal incident

peak escarp
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she was gone for a few months, phasing in and out of time

dense nebula
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Wonder how long it took to get her back after Doomfist ripped the device off of her

peak escarp
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it was probably faster, since they already had the device and knew what to look for

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Winston would just have to build another one

dense nebula
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Couldn’t an EMP be Tracer’s worst nightmare?

upbeat violet
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it depends on how her device is built

analog niche
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Water

upbeat violet
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if it’s not an electrical device I don’t think so

analog niche
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Water

dense nebula
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If they want to kill any Overwatch agents just send Sombra to hack tracer’s Chronal Accelerator

peak escarp
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it takes some kind of power

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we see her charging it in Reflections

dense nebula
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Sombra’s echo locator is just a modified chronal accelerator isn’t it?

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Or is it the pulse bomb

analog niche
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Yes

peak escarp
analog niche
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I think

upbeat violet
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really?

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i thought the chrono accelerator only worked because of tracers condition

dense nebula
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It counteracts her condition

peak escarp
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Sombra's translocator uses the same tech as the Chronal Accelerator

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but works differently

upbeat violet
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i see

analog niche
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I want lore about the creation of crusader armor

peak escarp
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    Sombra: What can I say? A girl just has to have the latest tech.```
dense nebula
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Wouldn’t be surprised if the Crusader Armor was commissioned to the Ironclad Guild to make

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Since Torb and Brig seem to know their way around the armor when repairing it

analog niche
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I have crusader armor irl

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It doesn’t fit me

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Bc those proportions are not human

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Lol

upbeat violet
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the crusader armor was based off the first iron man suit

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it looks so

peak escarp
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it's based off medieval knights

analog niche
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The helmet is smaller than the hands lmao

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Rein has a huge ass head, it is comical

upbeat violet
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specially with the center

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and then the rocket in the back

analog niche
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I mean I look like Ethan Hawke

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Specially with the white

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And the brown hair

candid fossil
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we need a techno polka soundtrack in the game

hasty walrus
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Another melody for sigma to wonder over

golden oak
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Wtf is your pfp

tepid sinew
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which overwatch character yall think listens to yeat

north walrus
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is cassidy canonically european

junior schooner
wind portal
peak escarp
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Sombra's translocator

junior schooner
wind portal
upbeat violet
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Ashe

peak escarp
upbeat violet
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she’s very American like

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specially with the redneck tone

wind portal
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tone's only come from living in a place for a very long time

analog niche
vapid tusk
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What does Brig think of Soldier 76 and Ana?

upbeat violet
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She probably thinks highly of them since they were in Overwatch

vapid tusk
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wasn't brig pretty skeptical of the original overwatch team though

ocean sundial
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v

vapid tusk
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what language does lifeweaver speak?

peak escarp
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Thai

twilit patrol
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And english too

chrome plover
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I feel as though overwatch at some point is gonna get sigma out of talon. He will probably help him there and show his power. Maybe they help him re-piece his mind again and he begins his training to fully control his power.

Perhaps sombra helps.

Just something with sigma. Probably bc these sad voicelines are making me wanting him to get out of talon. Maybe they add an Overwatch skin like how he has a talon skin.

vapid tusk
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well first they'd need to fix his mental issue which is probably impossible

chrome plover
peak escarp
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Mercy can't raise people from the dead

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at best she can give a burst of healing to someone who is incapacitated, like we saw her do to Mei in Zero Hour

loud otter
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if kiriko can summon a speed shrine with a an intangible spirit fox i think they can get sigma some meds

serene pasture
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I want sigma to leave talon and if he does to join overwatch the next fight against doomfist would go way different

runic mauve
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Man im ngl for me the best thing about overwatch is the lore. I really hope that the campaign at least gives us a good story smoothly. I do not care about the game play of the campaign just please be a good story

serene pasture
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Thats why we need a movie of overwatch cause the lore is so good

runic mauve
serene pasture
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yeah but either a movie or tv show would be sick

runic mauve
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yeay

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I really hope we get one

serene pasture
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btw have u seen the leak that rein might die in the campaign

runic mauve
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If i ever become a billionaire first thing im gonna do is fund the overwatch lore

runic mauve
serene pasture
runic mauve
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also any news on campaign release or nah? Wasnt it supposed to be early 2023

runic mauve
serene pasture
serene pasture
#

thats all google says

runic mauve
#

is there any video/series of videos explaining ALL of the overwatch lore?

upbeat violet
#

i know there’s a couple non official ones with passable credibility

vague heron
#

Like

#

Not really but we're not getting a movie anytime soon so we'll have to stick to the "Every OW cinematic compilation" vid

young lily
#

Did D.VA ever compete in the junkertown Mech competition

worthy rose
#

Pretty sure not. Her Junker skins are not canon

primal fox
#

is there magic in ow or

cus what the fuck is kiriko's ult

#

and hanzos?

#

@ me with reply

worthy rose
primal fox
#

okay yeah

#

LMAOO

glass ferry
#

Bro The orchestra skin for Sigma looks like spongebobs voice actor

limpid agate
#

It was speculated to be Hard Light, since Hanzo's dragons behaves identically to Symmetra's hard light orbs

#

But no its just magic now

odd loom
peak escarp
#

yes

#

Kiriko unambiguously has a spirit protecting her

odd loom
#

like its literally a fox spirit in the lore

primal fox
#

but the idea that spirits exist is either paranormal or magic itself

#

šŸ§ā€ā™‚ļø

#

and kiriko is into tarot..

#

so magic would make more sense

odd loom
primal fox
odd loom
vapid tusk
#

Pretty sure none of zen’s abilities are lore accurate

foggy yew
#

who the fuck is betman?

#

fuck this

#

ope

#

wrong server

#

oops

twilit patrol
#

!!shitposting

twilit nacelleBOT
#

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

primal fox
#

does echo have a gender

peak escarp
#

she's female

primal fox
#

ok

latent scarab
#

Who's strongest

#

Sigma or doom

rare trail
#

sigma sym winston and orisa are generally believed to be the strongest

latent scarab
#

But who's stinger

#

Stronger

rare trail
#

sigma is probably stronger than doom

#

we dont really know how strong sigmas gravity control is

tepid lily
#

what OW maps are real places

vocal marsh
#

I think all of them

tepid lily
#

numbani isnt real

vocal marsh
#

Or do you mean in the OW world

#

Or the real world

tepid lily
#

no like

#

what maps

#

in OW

#

are real

#

world

#

places

vocal marsh
#

None

#

The places exist

tepid lily
#

oh shit rlly

vocal marsh
#

But the buildings don’t

rare trail
#

i think rialto is a real place

vocal marsh
#

Yeah like Midtown and Antarctic Peninsula exist IRL

tepid lily
#

it would be awesome if they were based off of the IRL places

rare trail
#

sub some non real elements like the omnics in the boats

vocal marsh
#

But don’t look the same

#

Like for Midtown, the entrance to Grand Central Terminal is on top of the bridge and there isn’t a fire station nearby

rare trail
#

dorado is real right?

#

havana

tepid lily
#

isnt dorado based off of a town in italy

#

like the coloured houses

tepid lily
rare trail
#

eichenwalde is a real place

tepid lily
#

wait rlly

#

xd

rare trail
#

i dont think its followed directly or anything

#

but there is a real place in germany called eichenwalde

tepid lily
#

maybe the OW maps are future predictions to what they would look like in the future

#

maybe an omnic crisis will exist in 2077

worthy rose
tepid lily
#

think abt it tho

#

AI is becoming more innovative

rare trail
#

the omnic crisis would be in the 2040s not the 2070s

tepid lily
#

55 years prior to when OW takes place

tepid lily
#

if ppl give robots their own feelings theres probably gonna be an omnic crisis

rare trail
#

thats not why the omnic crisis happened in lore

#

it happened bc of anubis

vocal marsh
#

Havana is real but the actual map isn’t

rare trail
#

omnics only got feelings by aurora which i assume was after the war

tepid lily
#

so some evil dudes gonna hack the robots or something

#

sounds realistic

left portal
#

hey guys I want to now who is the founder of Overwatch?

peak escarp
#

there were 6 founding members

#

Jack Morrison
Gabriel Reyes
Ana Amari
Reinhardt Wilhelm
Torbjorn Lindholm
Dr. Mina Liao

umbral escarp
#

Is their any other confirmed overwatch 2 members aside of mai, rein, winton, tracer, brig, echo, Genji, and mercy

#

Also sry to my Australians one of my best friends dads are from their but everything in overwatch is just our future

#

My evidence is junkertown

#

And anything in Australia

grand wedge
fresh rock
#

All from Cass' side

#

Thanks Mr. Huckleberry

dense nebula
tepid lily
#

thats crazy

#

not like i didnt know that

#

im saying the buildings in dorado are similar to a town in italy

#

šŸ’€

#

oh look

#

i was right

iron plume
#

Yep
Dorado's in mexico but its style is based on an Italian place

#

They've stepped up map research/accuracy a lot since the release day ones

#

Volskaya is supposed to be in St. Petersburg but has the Kremlin on the other side of the river

worthy rose
#

Is Cassidy even in overwatch anymore or is he his own party

iron plume
#

He is
New Blood was him collecting new people for OW at Ana's request

twilit patrol
#

Ana's request ?

worthy rose
#

So deadlock < overwatch < blackwatch < overwatch?

iron plume
#

No

#

He was only in Blackwatch the first time around

#

But Blackwatch was itself part of overwatch

worthy rose
#

I see

iron plume
#

So more like deadlock - BW - on his own - new OW

upbeat violet
#

she just gave him the names and left it as his decision

iron plume
#

That's what a request is
If it wasn't his decision it would be an order

upbeat violet
#

a request would be her asking him to do it

peak escarp
#

she did

iron plume
brisk dawn
#

Cassidy looks like he’s 20 in that comic

peak escarp
#

art is subjective

vocal marsh
#

To me he looks like a dog in that picture

peak escarp
#

rude

warm locust
#

To me, he looks awesome in that picture

junior schooner
# iron plume

I thought Ana technically faked her death WHATS she doing with him?

iron plume
junior schooner
opaque tundra
#

You can read the comic on the Overwatch website

iron plume
#

It's in the comic yea

junior schooner
#

Got it

iron plume
#

and cass joined OW with his new "hires"

junior schooner
#

Got it

#

So where are we at now currently is that all?

#

I feel like games gotten more love then the lore

#

At least lately

vocal marsh
#

…no

twilit patrol
tepid sinew
#

is null sector just racist robots

#

well

#

humans are racist to the robots

#

so they racist back

rare trail
#

null sector isnt racist

#

they dont hate humans as a whole

#

null sector is a terrorist group but its not racist

worthy rose
#

no coz zen trained genji and genji is a huma well cyborg but you get. What I mean

rare trail
#

?

worthy rose
#

Let me call ram the most racist overwatch hero in peace please

rare trail
#

zen has no conncetion to null sector

tepid sinew
#

doesnt ram like lead null sector and he hates humans like a lot

worthy rose
#

oh it’s about null sector

rare trail
worthy rose
#

sry then lmao

rare trail
#

he does bad things to get it like murdering hundreds of people

worthy rose
rare trail
#

but hes not racist

worthy rose
#

he wants a better life for omnics

tepid sinew
#

ayy honestly even if he was racist i wouldnt care cuz his voice lines go hard asf

rare trail
worthy rose
#

maybe it is

rare trail
#

yea i think its just a theory after reading through his bio

tepid sinew
#

what yall think is like the best roadhog skin

worthy rose
#

mf had his bio pulled up

tepid sinew
#

i think the militia one has the best guns

rare trail
#

i like the mako one where he has like a shark costume

worthy rose
tepid sinew
worthy rose
#

wat

#

anyways sym lowkey slays

rare trail
#

mako and sharkbait are my favo ones

#

mainly bc theyre in the short

worthy rose
#

mine is Midas

#

I love on how Sym is the only technical orphan to still have her actual parents alive

upbeat violet
#

do you guys think Ashe could join overwatch?

rare trail
#

i doubt she would

worthy rose
#

No

#

never

#

She hates Cassidy

twilit patrol
rare trail
#

i mean there could be something like cassidy where she gets captured and forced to join but i doubt that would happen

worthy rose
#

she likes having her own rules

tepid sinew
#

like why did i ask that

worthy rose
#

and with overwatch that doesn’t happen

#

Why are they racist

#

duh

twilit patrol
#

...

worthy rose
#

Gautier you asked

tepid sinew
worthy rose
#

So you should've clarified

worthy rose
#

there are exceptions

tepid sinew
#

šŸ’Æ

upbeat violet
twilit patrol
worthy rose
#

and you went ... as if I did something that upset you

#

Messages can be perceived in many ways

twilit patrol
#

I'm not upset don't worry. Now we don't talk about it anymore.

dense nebula
rare trail
#

fr

fathom flax
#

Hey, so, why does Reaper just get new shotguns instead of reloading the ones he already has

idle finch
#

video game

analog niche
#

What he said

dense nebula
#

So according to some new dialogue, it sounds like Sojourn has a lover, idk tho

#

It is in game dialogue after all

idle finch
#

the convo with mercy?

peak escarp
#

in-game interactions are hypothetical

idle finch
#

yeah

peak escarp
#

meaning the information in them is true, they just haven't said it

#

so it's likely Sojourn is seeing someone

dense nebula
#

Boffum

golden oak
#

Who was Baptiste talking about with mercy

#

Btw

rare trail
#

if bap was talking about someone in a romantic sense its probably lifeweaver

golden oak
#

No I mean there’s a voice line between bap and mercy where he asks her if she’s looking for a partner and that he knows someone with few doctorates or something like that

rare trail
#

i would have to see the voiceline idk who he could be talking about

rare trail
#

genji is probably the person mercy is talking about but idk for bap

#

lifeweaver might have a few doctorates but that wouldnt really make sense

dense nebula
#

Bap exists to flirt with others, that’s all I can gather from him now

#

Flirt with others, and be sarcastic when healing

#

ā€œThank you Baptiste. Oh you’re welcomeā€

golden oak
#

Well he’s not talking about himself,
Sure he’s handsome and kind but afaik Baptiste doesn’t have any doctorates
He’s a medic but not a medical doctor

dense nebula
#

LifeWeaver is literally the Bill Gates of OW

golden oak
#

He doesn’t even have masters degree most likely

dense nebula
#

Dropped out of college, went on to invent/innovate a new impactful technology

golden oak
#

How old is he

#

Btw

rare trail
#

pins say hes 29

#

i think thats as ow1 ages though

golden oak
#

Wait did Baptiste meet sigma in talon?

#

If yes then what if he’s talking about sigma?
And mercy also knows Siebren probably

rare trail
#

bap wouldnt have met sigma

#

he wasnt high up

peak escarp
worthy rose
#

How long time skip from ow1 ow2?

peak escarp
#

we don't know exactly

#

a couple years?

vestal verge
#

I know omnic junkrat and roadhog is just a skin but dose it mean that they both become one in the future-

peak escarp
#

no

#

humans can't become omnics

vestal verge
#

Well I mean like genji with him being part omnic

junior schooner
ivory garnet
#

Genji isnt omnic

#

he’s a cyborg

#

its literally impossibly for him to be an omnic

vestal verge
#

Alright I get it I’m sorry I don’t do lore often and the omnic skins just made me want to try it

rare trail
#

Genji uses the same technology as omnics

#

But an omnic is like a sentient robot that was built in an omnium

#

Or just a robot built in an omnium there’s different definitions

fathom canyon
#

So you think Junkrat and roadhog are wearing omnic heads in their new skins while still being human underneath or are just omnic versions of them?

#

Shrodinger’s junkers

vestal verge
peak escarp
#

it's just omnic versions of them

fathom canyon
#

That being said what would humanize omnics look like. Probably cursed

ivory garnet
#

human omnics?

#

Zenyatta would be a monk

fresh rock
#

An alternate reality.

#

Simple as that

ivory garnet
#

Ramattra would probably have dreads

#

fanart goes wild in stuff like that, not really a place for it here

fresh rock
#

Don't forget BAWB

ocean depot
#

reinhardt smash

fresh rock
#

....that is something he does, yes

vestal verge
#

He dose in fact smash

shadow marsh
#

Beautiful place

ivory garnet
#

most maps are

golden oak
#

So I don’t know which person with few doctorates is he talking about

grand wedge
#

Lifeweaver is living in the Atlantic Arcology - so there must be a lot of people there with quite a few doctorates, since it's "a freestanding and self-sustaining scientific and ecological city in the Atlantic Ocean, free from the governing laws of any nation on the planet." Niran could have his doctorates in this city, even.

golden oak
#

But since you brought it up I’m curious if that’s gonna be the next map
Highly probable imo since it’s been mentioned on many other maps like midtown, esperanca, numbani and afaik it’s the only place from mentioned places we haven’t gotten yet

grand wedge
#

Yeah, I was expecting the Arcology last season, instead of Antarctica. But, I'm now wondering if the Arcology will be featured as one of the new maps for the new PVP core gamemode that was beeing teased for a while?

twilit patrol
#

It’s possible Sent

golden oak
#

What game mode

twilit patrol
#

If you want, that would be a new PvP competitive game mode with several maps and like Gwadael said, i think AA will come out with this.

grand wedge
# golden oak What game mode

From the "mapping out the future" article from Aaron (February 3, 2023) :

Since Push has fewer maps than other game modes this could cause those maps to come up more frequently than game modes with more maps. We’re looking into a way to mitigate this, targeted for a future season. This is even more important considering that we have another new game mode with new maps scheduled for a seasonal release later this year.

#

We know that PVE is coming obviously, but he is talking about the map pool in QP and Competitive, so it's implied that there is a PVP mode somewhere with multiple maps coming out at some point

golden oak
twilit patrol
analog niche
#

I literally got Esperanca twice in a row

#

I wanted to kill myself

twilit patrol
potent briar
outer willow
#

Fire in the whole

analog niche
#

How the heck are junkrat and Roadhog not caught yet

twilit patrol
analog niche
twilit patrol
#

At least i think so

analog niche
#

And the international man hunt

warm oriole
#

is there an in lore reason why overwatch starts gun fights around the gloobe between its members and random criminals with unconwentionall weapons?

twilit patrol
warm oriole
#

they use weapons that are warcrimes to use on the daily

peak escarp
#

there isn't a lore reason

#

because the game isn't canon

twilit patrol
#

That's what i thought

warm oriole
peak escarp
#

because video game

warm oriole
#

AND NOT PVE

peak escarp
#

they're working on it

twilit patrol
warm oriole
#

every single thing in tf2 has reason to be there including PvE

peak escarp
#

so?

warm oriole
#

tf2 lore is better

peak escarp
#

okay

twilit patrol
#

I don't care

#

Who's care here ?

warm oriole
#

blizzard f ing sucks

peak escarp
#

then why are you here?

twilit patrol
warm oriole
#

games still good

#

atleast the original

#

and the 2 is the first but more heros and seasons

peak escarp
#

yes

#

that's the point

twilit patrol
#

OW2 is a sequel of OW lore

peak escarp
#

sequels are often "the same game but more"

warm oriole
#

did overwatch collaps between the 1st and 2st

#

game

twilit patrol
#

No

#

I think not

hybrid pulsar
#

didnt it collapse before the 1st game

peak escarp
#

the fall of Overwatch was before the first game, yes

#

the second game happens after Overwatch is reformed

twilit patrol
#

5 years ago i think

ivory garnet
#

Overwatch collapsed 7-9 years ago

peak escarp
#

it was 5 years before Recall

#

I don't care

wet epoch
twilit patrol
warm locust
#

So

#

What would be magic canonically?

#

Do we not know what it's boundaries are

#

Or there is a set limit

#

To what can and cannot be done

peak escarp
#

we don't know the limits

#

but it's likely not widespread or very powerful or it would be more prevalent than technology

warm locust
#

Ohh, oki

#

I am betting on not widespread

#

Kiriko's mom didn't believe her iirc

peak escarp
#

correct

warm locust
#

It's not the strongest sign but she's an important part of a very important place for magic

#

So

#

Thank you, very much

#

I was planning to create a character but didn't know the limits of what magic could be

#

This'll be of great help

#

Again, thank you

golden oak
#

What do we know about Luna?

weary raptor
#

I need healing

limpid agate
#

And an omnic

#

That's about it

golden oak
#

Isn’t she a part of some omnic liberation group?

limpid agate
#

!!loretext

twilit nacelleBOT
#

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Experimental Weapon Stolen: http://bit.ly/2fMrKsj
Lucio's Synaesthesia World Tour: http://bit.ly/2flja2U
LumƩriCo: http://bit.ly/1XAJfd1
Overwatch is Back: http://bit.ly/1TAWebT
LumƩriCo Revealed: http://bit.ly/2e6P5oj
Portero Steps Down: http://bit.ly/2fk8Bes
Efi Oladele Interview: http://bit.ly/2miMZkT
Horizon Lunar Colony: http://bit.ly/2reMSKx
Attack on Helix: http://bit.ly/2tn45mk
Oslo Attack: https://bit.ly/2uHKXUr
Don Rumbotico: https://bit.ly/2VtzZKX

Documents:
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Torb's Letter: http://bit.ly/2HK4CWa
Venice Declassified: https://bit.ly/2Hs807B
Cuerva: https://bit.ly/2BHEqd9
Yamagami: https://bit.ly/2XJC9Jr

Travel Guides:
Oasis: http://bit.ly/2iPTM4K
Paris: https://bit.ly/2GEyOoq

Short Stories and Novels:
Use !!loreStories to see short stories and novels

limpid agate
#

Doesn't say she is in the travel guide

pliant thistle
#

None

peak escarp
#

it's possible

white cairn
#

Ok so apparently widowmaker can’t feel emotion right? Then why does she smile in some of her POTGs and in her cinematic while assassinating mondatta

#

We also see her laughing in one of her emotes

#

So what’s up with that?

rare trail
#

she can feel emotion

white cairn
#

Fr?

rare trail
#

yeah

white cairn
#

My sources are bad then

rare trail
#

in a comic she visits gerards(her husbands) grave

white cairn
#

Ah okay

dry bridge
#

Literally darth Vader of ow

dense nebula
upbeat violet
#

im almost sure they’re just supressed

dense nebula
#

When she feels most alive is when she is about to kill

#

She’s bloodthirsty

white cairn
#

She should be thirsty FOR DEEZ NUTS LMAO

#

(sorry)

peak escarp
#

don't

dry bridge
#

be

manic sentinel
#

Could anyone please elaborate or explain what Genji’s/Zenyatta’s philosophy is?

In OW1, he was unhappy that he was made of so much metal, he didn’t feel human, etc.
But as the lore has progressed, it seems like being taken under Zenyatta’s guidance made Genji come to terms with who he is

#

But do we know actually why he’s fine with it now?

peak escarp
#

Zenyatta helped him find peace

#

that's all we know

ivory garnet
#

to put more on what Doctor said;

Zenyatta helped Genji find peace within himself, understanding his body and becoming thankful and to be at peace with it. Zenyatta may have also helped Genji get rid of the anger/rage he had in himself from when Hanzo brutally injured him. Which is why Genji told Hanzo that he has forgave him

vapid tusk
#

Is the rage what motivated him to join Blackwatch?

rare trail
#

he was forced to join blackwatch

peak escarp
#

he was offered a chance at revenge against his clan, and he took it

#

he wasn't forced to join

rare trail
#

his choice was to like live as an amputee or join blackwatch though

peak escarp
#

it was still a choice

white cairn
#

Technically, since he wanted to take revenge on Hanzo he had no choice but to accept their offer and build him a new body

#

I mean, you can’t take revenge on someone with 1/4th of your body, can you?

#

So for the sake of revenge, he was forced.

ivory garnet
#

he was only paralyzed from confirmed media

#

his severed limbs could be from surgery

#

etc

ruby relic
#

is there an ana skin that's like a ghillie suit?

#

i think there's like foliage on her rifle too

peak escarp
#

her Sniper skin?

ruby relic
#

probably

#

thanks

radiant sky
limpid agate
#

She isn't Iraqi

golden oak
keen summit
#

moira joined after genji

golden oak
#

IF

#

What if

keen summit
#

yeah

#

then he would yeah

#

i mean she has the power slightly aswell

junior schooner
#

Okay does anyone know exactly what happened to cass’s arm?

keen summit
#

never has been talked about really

junior schooner
#

Odd

keen summit
#

its more that its not actually important

worthy rose
# peak escarp

That is a very badass skin. I should definitely buy it sometime

raven forge
#

Which character is stronger in the lore? Doomfist or ramattra?

ivory garnet
#

Doom

#

we have nothing on Ramattra

dense nebula
#

Theoretically, they’re about on par. Ram being more tactical and Doom more brute strength

#

But actually, we have no clue

shadow marsh
#

Doom is both

hasty walrus
#

I wish we’d get an animated short with Sigma in it. Maybe an archive cutscene where he’s the boss fight and they let him go mad with his powers

hasty walrus
#

He truly does
We’re totally gonna get a sigma boss fight in pve right

#

Maybe we break into a talon lab and he is there and he’s so scared at seeing us that he goes ā€œVIOLENCEā€ mode

#

I wonder what pve talents sig will get

late belfry
#

soldier 76 is gay

blissful goblet
#

Its canon

late belfry
#

yeah

#

and tracer is a femboy

analog niche
#

Rein and Sigma are not American so that excludes them

#

It’s for that diversity graph that blizzard wanted to use but the designers are like bro no wtf

analog niche
#

I hate that it was soldier

#

Like pick literally anyone else

late belfry
#

tracer wouldve been so much better

#

tracer even looks gay

analog niche
#

She is lesbian?

late belfry
#

ohg

#

i thought tracer was a femboy

analog niche
#

No

late belfry
analog niche
#

Maybe like a tomboy at absolute most

#

For tracer

analog niche
#

What are these questions

late belfry
#

im talking about sexuality genuis

silk crypt
#

She’s definitely bi for sure miso_laugh

analog niche
#

Being a femboy is not a sexuality

late belfry
silk crypt
#

Lmfao

late belfry
#

but yeah back to our discussion

analog niche
#

Wife leaver is a femboy, but he’s pan

silk crypt
twilit patrol
#

''Wife leaver''

late belfry
#

i think most of the ow2 characters are LGBTQ+

analog niche
#

That’s Destiny lmao

late belfry
#

destiny is gay

#

i know a destiny

#

hes gay

analog niche
#

Probably

worthy rose
#

I thought before that Kiriko is a tomboy LOL

analog niche
#

Bc his name is destiny

analog niche
late belfry
silk crypt
analog niche
worthy rose
late belfry
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🤔

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I still think she's cute

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Very good waifu

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She’s not hot

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Rein is hot

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I hate mercy

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I hate her players and her skins

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i wonder if my girlfriend plays ow2

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You just like pretty colors

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whos the worst looking chjaracter in ow2, i go with phara

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Bro no

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Pharah is very attractive

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Tf did lore chat turn into AFrog

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is it just me or does d.va seem like a belle delhpine clone

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cuz of me

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!loreonly

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Rats

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Time for plan B