lore-discussion

[peak escarp]

he will do anything to save his own skin plating

[quiet rune]

pog

[potent briar]

he was unarmed and got chased down by a teleporting brit, a cyborg ninja, a swiss woman who can say "fuck you" to death, and a gorilla with the IQ of Nikola Tesla

I would run too lmao

[valid scarab]

The nuke was because they purposefully destroyed the omnics fusion core, making them the cause

[analog niche]

Who cares? That’s not how humans’ minds work

They just see the issues caused because of omnics

[quiet rune]

Fair, I just basically said that everybody loves Bastion: Rein, Torb, Zarya, Zen, etc

[analog niche]

I love bastion more than all of them combined

[quiet rune]

U mean S6

[potent briar]

And Mauga for S8

[quiet rune]

SADGE

[valid scarab]

It seems like ppl have a severe lack of empathy

[peak escarp]

in case you missed it, here's his "interrogation" from after he's captured during Storm Rising
https://twitter.com/PlayOverwatch/status/1121504149734952961?s=20

Overwatch (@PlayOverwatch)

Accessing archived file...

Decryption status: COMPLETE

📂 STORM RISING INTEL EXAMINATION – MAXIMILIEN

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Twitter · Apr 25, 2019, 8:00 PM

[potent briar]

And Mama Hong for S10

[analog niche]

It seems like you are naive

[valid scarab]

Even ram “if I see a stick, I will let you know”

[quiet rune]

This is such an accurate depiction of what happened

[quiet rune]

Yes, you can see my flow chart at the bottom

[quiet rune]

Facts

[quiet rune]

Maybe, but I do also want another crusader hero

[analog niche]

I WAS LITERALLY SAYING THIS EARLIER

[potent briar]

Ok but Mauga tho

[valid scarab]

Is that an insult? I’m 15 sorry I expect better from ppl

[valid scarab]

That’d be a W

[potent briar]

I feel like it would be too similar to Rein tho

Like it'd be cool but how

[quiet rune]

[potent briar]

Ram is just chill like that

[valid scarab]

He’d def be that friend that’s just nonchalant then randomly dumps a deep thought on you (me Fr)

[quiet rune]

Totally never committed genocide or anything

[potent briar]

Ok but he served

[valid scarab]

He did it on the way to finding a stick for bastion so it’s ok

[potent briar]

More futuristic cities ----> less trees

[quiet rune]

Not by choice

He was built for war

[potent briar]

Still served

[quiet rune]

Valid

[quiet rune]

Yes, but it’s different

Enlisting in the army is different from being at war and forcibly being drafted

[potent briar]

not that kind of served ._.

[quiet rune]

Swap out the sheild for somthing, change up the charge a bit, maybe make her primary fire a low dmg horizontal fire strike? Just spitballing

[quiet rune]

Oh ._.

WDYM then

[potent briar]

he looked good doing it

[quiet rune]

[ember hazel]

The main place Ramattra had destroyed was parts of Britain, which I think is a net positive for the world.

[potent briar]

True

[quiet rune]

That’s not very cheers luv

[ember hazel]

If you look at the graffiti on King’s Row, they say some rather unkind things

[peak escarp]

the grafitti on King's Row is a result of the terrorist attack

[ember hazel]

OW Britain is a cesspit of misery and hatred just like in real life

[peak escarp]

not the other way around

[ember hazel]

At what point does the Overwatch timeline diverge from ours

Is there anything that happened irl but not in OW

[potent briar]

Well considering it takes place in the 2070s

[peak escarp]

2016

[potent briar]

So Ramattra did nothing wrong 🙂

[twilit patrol]

He killed hundred of people but he didn't wrong yes.

[quiet rune]

LOL

[potent briar]

Ok and?

[ember hazel]

exactly

[white cairn]

RAMMATTRA is a robot

[ember hazel]

So like

9/11 happened

[white cairn]

We don’t owe him rights lmao

[ember hazel]

So if we think the actions of Null Sector are bad and wrong, fair, but would you propose they do otherwise?

[white cairn]

Null sector are just taking revenge or smth

[peak escarp]

I assume so

[ember hazel]

From Ramattra’s prospective, they tried to be peaceful about their rights through Mondatta, and they shot his ass

Now granted, Mondatta’s death was probably orchestrated by Talon to sow further chaos in the world, so ultimately that would make Ramattra a pawn to their plan, but he has no knowledge of any of that

[peak escarp]

Mondatta was assassinated 7 years after Null Sector held him hostage in the King's Row Uprising

Ramattra was not happy with Mondatta denouncing his attack

I doubt he'd be torn up about Mondatta's death

[ember hazel]

Never mind then I have no idea what I’m talking about

[peak escarp]

I pointed back at Mondatta because I couldn’t bear to look at him again.
“He holds himself above us. Like Anubis, Mondatta is sending our people to their deaths. He must pay for this and—”```

[ember hazel]

Well now that I’m looking that’s not an entirely invalid message either

Either way if Ramattra dies I will be sad

He has a nice voice

[twilit patrol]

Ramattra won't die

[peak escarp]

he'll probably just be imprisoned at the end of his arc

[twilit patrol]

Sure

[ember hazel]

Is there any indication when PvE comes out

[twilit patrol]

I don't think he cares about being imprisoned, he just wants to be heard.

[twilit patrol]

No sorry.

[peak escarp]

2023

[ember hazel]

Dang

[peak escarp]

so within the next 8 months

[analog niche]

Hot take: Omnics shouldn’t be made a part of society, they should develop their own society so that they don’t have to play by the rules of the establishment. They can create their own society like how the machines did in the matrix in that animatic, and became a economic global superpower

[peak escarp]

some omnics tried to make their own society, but humans didn't want to let them be

[analog niche]

Which was that?

[peak escarp]

the Australian omnium

[analog niche]

Oh ok

[peak escarp]

omnics were given a place to live, away from humans, but the ALF decided that wasn't fair and blew up their omnium

[analog niche]

💀

Poor guys

That’s not their fault tho, Australians are built different

It’s like Florida but internationally

[dense nebula]

I thought it was cause the ALF was displaced to make room for the omnics

[peak escarp]

true

but that's the Australian government's fault, not the omnics

[dense nebula]

Good ole AU gov’t

[analog niche]

I still think they should have a society parallel to humans, where they can hold their own power and authority

Imagine the amount of things they could accomplish

They could outpace traditional human societies in terms of technological advancement, and introduce novel ideas to cultural arts

[viscid flame]

Zero One the city was eventually nuked by Matrix-verse humanity because the robots were too good at doing stuff

[analog niche]

Oh yeah

I forgot about that

I’m sensing a pattern here

The only omnic lefts standing would be Orisa

(She has good management of cooldowns)

[viscid flame]

True, Nano Orisa fortified basically requires a nuke to take down lol

[analog niche]

Final raid boss Orisa

Just make a bunch of Orisa’s and no weapon on earth would harm your city

Also, many puppies

https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-gameplay-orisa-overwatch-gif-chrominius-gif-21071875

[viscid flame]

Powerful synergy that would be

[analog niche]

How sentient is Orisa?

[rare trail]

completely

[analog niche]

She’s definitely more human like in ow2

Less error 404 type stuff

[rare trail]

she has "personality core"

[analog niche]

But is that technically true sentience?

[rare trail]

uhhhh

shes made from definitely sentient omnics

err

she might not be

she is sentient

but idk if the or15s she was made from are

[analog niche]

She might not technically be sentient, but might as well be since it’s so close to mimicking the real thing

I guess

[rare trail]

i mean by all measurable things shes sentient

there isnt really a meaningful difference between mimicking sentience and being sentient

ok the or15s orisa was made from are def not sentient

theyre too young

[analog niche]

Yeah that’s true, I guess I just meant her sentience was brought about via man made technology

[rare trail]

all omnics sentience is from aurora who was man made

[analog niche]

Right, but the way in which they received it was not(???)

Idk man

[rare trail]

yea

aurora just kinda ascended

[analog niche]

You know

As you do

https://tenor.com/view/bastion-overwatch-hello-greetings-gif-21091403

Bastion is sentient tho

[rare trail]

yea

[analog niche]

He’s just more like algernon

[rare trail]

he was alive when aurora ascended

[analog niche]

I hope i spelled that right lol

[rare trail]

aurora ascended like less than 20 years ago as of overwatch 1

[analog niche]

Overwatch timeline is kinda funky isn’t it? I can’t remember if there are discrepancies or not

[peak escarp]

it's pretty consistent, just hard to follow

[analog niche]

Can I have mod

[peak escarp]

what

[analog niche]

Mod

For server

[peak escarp]

lol no

[analog niche]

What if I bribed you?

And used blackmail?

And seduced you?

[peak escarp]

...

no

[analog niche]

Drat

Ah well, there’s always next time

[peak escarp]

I couldn't give it to you anyway

I don't have that power

[analog niche]

Shucks

Now, back to the lore

Previous Doomfists’ skins made available in game?

Discuss

[peak escarp]

I don't think they would release skins that turn someone into a different character

[rare trail]

griefhardt kinda does

and balderich

[analog niche]

Widow with her StarCraft skins

Rein too

[rare trail]

orisa and bastions null sector skins

[analog niche]

I suppose

And I guess the collab skins now

[viscid flame]

Aye, that's the thing Overwatch and Destiny have in common

Fantastic lore and characters, indescribably annoying to actually keep track of and follow

[analog niche]

Destiny has the best lore. Too bad the game sucks

Source: I have thousands of hours since 2014

[viscid flame]

Agreed

[analog niche]

Imagine what no competition does to a mf

[viscid flame]

I fear the live services Bungie is sheparding

[peak escarp]

since Blizzard hasn't made their own timeline to share with the class, I made one myself

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19K_zQ_UM0xQ0a7tahFwKLo5BmR41GEEezWezvIoJ__E/edit?usp=sharing

[analog niche]

Very cool

Thank you

[viscid flame]

Oh nice! Its brilliantly done

[analog niche]

I’m excited for the transformers game that is supposed to be like a mix of warframe/destiny

[viscid flame]

Oh yes I'm very excited for that as well, its been so long since the High Moon duology and Devestation, the character and story potential is immense

[analog niche]

Agreed

I just hope it does well enough

The closest I’ve been able to play a transformers game is putting on the bastion skin that looks like shockwave

[viscid flame]

Aye, I hope it succeeds well, I don't want another Transformers game hiatus

[viscid flame]

Oh yea that skin is cool I think its called Recon. But I can't remember clearly

I've been wanting it for a while

[analog niche]

Is it called that? I thought it was something else

[viscid flame]

lol I just realized that's what Bastion's normal omnic form is called, I misremembered entirely

[analog niche]

You’re good lol, that’s what I thought but couldn’t remember exactly

[viscid flame]

Ah it is called Stealth

[analog niche]

Makes sense

He looks stealthy

Speaking of which, why does pharah not have a skin that makes her look like stealth jet?

[viscid flame]

And it turns Ganymede into Laserbeak which is best part

[analog niche]

I know lol

[viscid flame]

Oh that would look awesome

[analog niche]

She does have an epic skin

That’s carbon fiber

It looks sorta like that but not the same

[viscid flame]

And I guess Anubis which is also close to jetblack but it has a lot of gold, and I don't believe it is canon, a canon stealth ops skin like that for Pharah would be great

[analog niche]

Yeah but that’s more ornate

[dense nebula]

I don’t know if we’re making our own TF or playing as established ones

[analog niche]

The latter

[dense nebula]

If established, PLEASE LET ME PLAY BLACKOUT

[peak escarp]

!!loreonly

[twilit nacelle]

This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[dense nebula]

Dang I’ve been fooled

[peak escarp]

keep it on topic please

[dense nebula]

I thought this was another channel

[analog niche]

Bamboozled son

[dense nebula]

My b, had I known it was lore I would’ve stayed on topic

[analog niche]

https://tenor.com/view/shockwave-laugh-transformers-transformers-animated-gif-23066862

[dense nebula]

I wonder if we’ll get an Oasis rep, despite Moira being a member of it for a time

[analog niche]

Honestly? Idk

They might consider her to be the oasis rep

[peak escarp]

maybe if Oasis becomes relevant to the story

[analog niche]

I wish I could meet someone relevant to my story :(((

[warped latch]

Wait am I dumb. Why did I think Symm was connected to oasis?

[analog niche]

What relevance could that be I wonder?

[analog niche]

No you’re not dumb

[peak escarp]

she does have an Oasis skin

[analog niche]

That could easily be construed

[peak escarp]

but that's noncanon

[warped latch]

Oh that’s right

[analog niche]

I guess bc of vishkar

If we’re looking at besides the skin

[vocal marsh]

Also going back to the Ramattra conversation you don’t just kill people because they’re racist

[rare trail]

yeah

i also dont love the idea of omnics having their own society

feels kinda uncomfortable

[peak escarp]

why?

[rare trail]

idk feels kinda like segregation

ig if omnics are for it thats fine but idk

[peak escarp]

we're not saying they're forced to be separate

just separate by choice

[vocal marsh]

The thing is there may not be room

[analog niche]

No? That’s a human constraint

Omnics are unique

In that regard

[rare trail]

omnics still have bodies though

like they need space

[vocal marsh]

Because the omnics didn’t all come from a certain region there’s no predetermined place and with how densely populated the world is already we don’t know if there’s any empty pockets

[analog niche]

True, but the distribution of said space can differ without a lot of what is typically necessary for a human

Omnics on the moon would be an awesome idea

[vocal marsh]

They more or less have the same necessities

[analog niche]

Who does?

[vocal marsh]

That just feels like deportation

[peak escarp]

omnics don't need to breathe - that opens up a lot of places that would be inhospitable to humans

[analog niche]

^

[peak escarp]

we don't know if they need to consume anything or have an external power need

[vocal marsh]

Do they feel temperature?

[peak escarp]

there's a lot we don't know about how omnics function

[analog niche]

I doubt they would be affected by temperature the same way as us though

[vocal marsh]

Heat definitely does

[analog niche]

Not really?

[rare trail]

computers dont function well in high heat

[vocal marsh]

^

[peak escarp]

computers don't function well in heat

[analog niche]

Yes but they don’t die of a heat stroke

[rare trail]

i wonder how omnics are powered

[analog niche]

Unless…

[peak escarp]

but they do well in cold temperatures (as long as there's no LCDs involved)

[rare trail]

they can

if a computer gets too hot it will shut off

[analog niche]

I guess what I meant doesn’t matter bc it’s the same analogue for omnics

I take your point

[peak escarp]

I used to have a computer with a heat problem - had to keep a fan pointed at the CPU all the time to keep it working

[analog niche]

They still probably can live in hotter climates more effectively than humans

[rare trail]

yea

i wonder if omnics just have batteries or if they have like mini power plants

[analog niche]

I would guess the latter

But it’s hard to say

[peak escarp]

maybe they have long-lasting fuel cells

[analog niche]

I don’t lol

Are there omnics that work as modes of transportation?

Like they’re a plane or something, but still an omnic?

[peak escarp]

I think all the omnics we've seen have been humanoid

at least somewhat

the OR14/15s are the farthest from the basic biped model

[analog niche]

Right

And most of null sector is made up of non omnic robots

[ivory garnet]

is the colossal gwyshin an omnic

[peak escarp]

yes

wait

I don't know

[analog niche]

I think it’s supposed to be?

Also, fuck getting any lore on the gwyshin, am I right?

• blizzard probably

[worthy rose]

I want more Gwishin lore, their designs are cool as fuck

[analog niche]

Very unique

Distinctive

I assumed since they keep evolving

[ivory garnet]

they’re ocean/sea based

[analog niche]

So am I

My ancestors were fish

I want more lore about crusaders

Gigachad German crushing machines

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[potent briar]

I just want more melee heroes

[twilit patrol]

🇩🇪

[peak escarp]

more melee heroes... in a shooter...

[potent briar]

Yes

[analog niche]

Yes

[potent briar]

You have read correctly

Congratulations

[analog niche]

I agree

[peak escarp]

why

[analog niche]

I want someone with a sword

[peak escarp]

it's bad enough that we already have two

[analog niche]

L cowboy man

[potent briar]

Big L

[analog niche]

🤠

[worthy rose]

Melee heroes are cool but they shouldn't really ever exist in an fps game. We're just lucky Blizz has made Rein and Doom work

[analog niche]

Uh no

Doom does not work

[potent briar]

Not anymore

[peak escarp]

I hate getting killed by melee in a shooter

just shoot me

[potent briar]

Interesting

But more melee anyway

[analog niche]

He fundamentally is designed to be only fun to play, unfun to play against. Or just almost useless

Because of how he was designed

[analog niche]

Skill issue

[potent briar]

I want a melee dps

Genji don't count he just has the ult

[analog niche]

I want a sword man

Genji doesn’t count bc ult (also nerf genji plz)

[analog niche]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

@green radish

[echo tusk]

😼

is that a yes

[potent briar]

I want a shambali monk with nunchucks

Because nunchucks

[analog niche]

What type are you?

[potent briar]

Go bruce lee on these hoes

[analog niche]

I have a type

[analog niche]

Zenyatta flying kick

OF DOOM

[potent briar]

YES

[analog niche]

Just like his spray

[echo tusk]

my elements are fire and my weakness is water but i counter grass type

[analog niche]

Nah

Are you a girl

If so, no thank you

Oh shoot

[twilit patrol]

??

[echo tusk]

sorry i forgot 2023

[peak escarp]

why wouldn't a girl have a sword?

[echo tusk]

i apologize

[potent briar]

Have you not watched any anime

[analog niche]

You weren’t making a euphemism and then deleted it bc?

[peak escarp]

I want a sword

[twilit patrol]

Bro show respect for the girls please

[analog niche]

No

[echo tusk]

im cancelled

this is so sad

[twilit patrol]

Take this Doc

[analog niche]

Girls are gross

[peak escarp]

anyway, we're getting off topic

[peak escarp]

ooh, diamond

[echo tusk]

fr

[analog niche]

This is the topic now

You get off

[echo tusk]

this is lore

[analog niche]

No wait not like that

[echo tusk]

lore

[peak escarp]

you really want to say that to someone with mod powers?

[twilit patrol]

Yeah it's true

[echo tusk]

: )

[analog niche]

Lore: who is hottest male hero?

[blissful goblet]

whats lore

[analog niche]

There

[echo tusk]

zen

[analog niche]

On topic again

[peak escarp]

that's what I thought

[potent briar]

Ramattra

[analog niche]

On the inside

[analog niche]

YEA

[potent briar]

I could change him

[echo tusk]

real

[analog niche]

fr

[blissful goblet]

Winston💀

[echo tusk]

bro that's illegal

[analog niche]

Monkeys are gross

No thanks

[blissful goblet]

Poor Winton

[analog niche]

Robots are clean

Very efficient

Very smart

[peak escarp]

most attractive male heroes: Cassidy, Lifeweaver, Ramattra, Baptiste
least attractive male heroes: Hanzo, Junkrat

[blissful goblet]

What did he ever do to you

[potent briar]

They could get dirty tho

[analog niche]

So can monkeys

[echo tusk]

hanzo?>?

[analog niche]

Way more dirty

[potent briar]

Yes Bap is hot as well

[blissful goblet]

why is hanzo on there

[analog niche]

Cassidy is my type

[potent briar]

Not that type of dirty

[peak escarp]

Hanzo looks like he fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down

[analog niche]

Wife leaver is not my type

Gross

[potent briar]

Lifeweaver is aight

[peak escarp]

have you seen his nose?

[analog niche]

But cool if you’re into that

[echo tusk]

i love wife leaver

[potent briar]

Don’t care much for Cass tbh

[blissful goblet]

bro thats nose shaming

[analog niche]

That’s cool, I’m not

[analog niche]

Bro

[echo tusk]

soon i will be a son leaver

[analog niche]

Have you SEEN

[peak escarp]

we're valuing someone's physical appearance

[potent briar]

Tho I'll give him points for being voiced by Matt Mercer

[analog niche]

his lifeguard skin?

[echo tusk]

someone post the torb beach skin

[potent briar]

Yes

Yes

[blissful goblet]

bruh

[analog niche]

Jk

[manic girder]

H

Hi

[echo tusk]

Bye

[manic girder]

Maybe we can find out a new character hidden within the lore

[peak escarp]

Most attractive female heroes: Junker Queen, Zarya

[analog niche]

Wdym?

[potent briar]

S4 just started

[upbeat violet]

almost forgot Pharah

[peak escarp]

oh yeah

[blissful goblet]

mhh I see you like strong women

[analog niche]

Least attractive: sombra (I hate being hacked)

[peak escarp]

Pharah has dem abs

[echo tusk]

watch Overwatch Animated Short | "Infiltration" 1:23, it's a hidden gun hero that shoots guns like cs:go and valorant

[upbeat violet]

pharahs and zaryas muscles are to howl for

[analog niche]

I’m gay but damn pharah 👀

[manic girder]

That’s cool

[echo tusk]

i would let pharah bomb me any day

[blissful goblet]

pff

[potent briar]

Bruh

[analog niche]

🤨📸

[blissful goblet]

Do you guys have a favorite ship?

[potent briar]

Not really

[echo tusk]

yeah pharah and me

[analog niche]

Me + Rein

[manic girder]

I think hero concepts are pretty cool

[potent briar]

Other than me + ramattra

[blissful goblet]

okay and the ships without you?

[potent briar]

…

[analog niche]

They used to be, back when people made them lol

I miss them :(((

[manic girder]

For example, someone had an idea of a dog

[analog niche]

NO

[potent briar]

ramattra + me (but clone)

[analog niche]

NOT IN OVERWATCH

[potent briar]

I saw that shit years ago

[echo tusk]

genji and mercy

[blissful goblet]

Just add Brigs cat as a hero and the problem is solved

[manic girder]

Lol

[blissful goblet]

yeah

[echo tusk]

🫣

[analog niche]

NO!!! WITHIN 50 MINUTES OF HIS REVEAL TRAILER, THERES NO GOING BACK

[manic girder]

I had a cool concept for a hero a while back ago

[echo tusk]

i should be a hero

[analog niche]

But you’re not

[echo tusk]

please react with emoji on this message to show support

[blissful goblet]

I like baptiste+Lifeweaver tbh i dont even know why

[echo tusk]

that i should be a hero

[analog niche]

I don’t like bap, but that’s just me

I find him kinda boring?

[echo tusk]

are you insecure

[analog niche]

I feel like he should be in apex

[echo tusk]

about your jump height

[analog niche]

No

[blissful goblet]

I dont like playing him but he looks good

[manic girder]

We need an evil chaotic healer

Liek

[echo tusk]

like moira?

we already have one

[blissful goblet]

moira

[manic girder]

Tf2 medic

Like

[echo tusk]

like kiriko?

[manic girder]

Very energetic

Lost their medical license

[echo tusk]

fun fact: kiriko probably has killed enough people to be called a serial murder

she is in a ninja family after all

lore accurate

[analog niche]

I play volleyball bro, I am a middle. I am absolutely not insecure about my jump height lol

[blissful goblet]

true

[echo tusk]

damn haikyu irl

[blissful goblet]

haha

[echo tusk]

they really stole the idea from the anime

shame

[manic girder]

A vampire like characters

[blissful goblet]

true 😭

[echo tusk]

like moira?

[blissful goblet]

moira isnt a vampire

I actually have a ugly concept for a Bat-Support

[potent briar]

Lillith from Paladins

[analog niche]

I hate kiriko with a passion

[blissful goblet]

why

shes cute

[analog niche]

Her character

[blissful goblet]

yeeaaahhh but shes still cool

she has a fox

[analog niche]

I like the fox

A lot

That’s it

[blissful goblet]

ya

[analog niche]

But also it’s magic

So that’s weird

[blissful goblet]

I like brigs cat

[analog niche]

In lore

Fat cat

[blissful goblet]

I also like Orisas doggo

[blissful goblet]

fat

[analog niche]

Ugly dog

But that’s just me

[potent briar]

Sojourn has a dog

[analog niche]

I like beagle, German shepherd, goldens

[potent briar]

And a cinematic

[analog niche]

Pic?

[blissful goblet]

I like animals in general

[analog niche]

Show me dog

[potent briar]

BUT we ain't having it for some reason

[analog niche]

Show me leaked cinematic

I know you have it

Where she’s on the steps

With dog

I want dog

[blissful goblet]

doggooo

[analog niche]

Bastion + Bird = perfection

[potent briar]

I sent dog

[analog niche]

Wait, how did it get the name Ganymede?

[blissful goblet]

ohh i almost forgot about the birdyy

[potent briar]

Ion know

[peak escarp]

we don't know

[analog niche]

Did torb do that?

[restive wolf]

cassidy dies

[analog niche]

That’s funny lmao

It has a name

[blissful goblet]

oh your back

[analog niche]

But no one to give it that name

[blissful goblet]

NOO

[peak escarp]

I've been here the whole time

[analog niche]

Sexy cowboy pfp, but dislikes melee characters

Cringe

[restive wolf]

i love you

[peak escarp]

why

[blissful goblet]

whats a melee character

[restive wolf]

cuz of ur stuff

cassidy

[blissful goblet]

When is the marriage

[tawdry fable]

🤓

[restive wolf]

i love cassidy

[analog niche]

Rein, brig, doom I guess

[blissful goblet]

me too

[restive wolf]

shut up

[tawdry fable]

average cassidy fan

[restive wolf]

shut the hell up

[analog niche]

https://tenor.com/view/mccree-jesse-overwatch-mchanzo-hanzo-gif-10806205

[tawdry fable]

hanzo better

[restive wolf]

LMAO

yeah ok

[blissful goblet]

true

[restive wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/cole-cassidy-suck-i-love-cassidy-gif-2052550581069548436

[blissful goblet]

I love the ship

[restive wolf]

aw bruh

let me send

pls

[analog niche]

Do they even know each other exist?

[restive wolf]

huh

[analog niche]

I feel like they might

[peak escarp]

Genji has probably mentioned his brother

so Cassidy might know he exists

[analog niche]

Oh yeah

[peak escarp]

but they've never met

[analog niche]

I forgor 💀

About Genji

[restive wolf]

oh yeah why do people ship them

[tawdry fable]

they’re officially married

[blissful goblet]

they talk about using a bow🥲

[restive wolf]

that’s weird now that i think abt it

[tawdry fable]

i was the pastor

[analog niche]

I was thinking of them knowing each other outside of Genji

[analog niche]

Shaft 😉

[restive wolf]

rea

l

[peak escarp]

because they were the only two young non-Lucio male heroes when the game launched

[restive wolf]

ohh

[blissful goblet]

🧐

[analog niche]

Technically before that

Since Lucio wasn’t initially in it sorta

[vocal marsh]

Genji

[blissful goblet]

we should make non-lucio an official word

[analog niche]

He was later, with Dva and Mei and Genji I guess

[wise fulcrum]

Ramattra lore is the best lore

[analog niche]

You’re pfp made me poop

But yes

Why no cinematic? With zenyatta?

[blissful goblet]

sigma lore is terrefying

[restive wolf]

sigma has best lore

[vocal marsh]

I think they got revealed later but they released together

[restive wolf]

to me

[analog niche]

What did?

[vocal marsh]

I think the first batch was revealed 2015 and the second batch 2016 with the release

[analog niche]

Oh my b

[restive wolf]

mei sucks

[analog niche]

Sorry

I remember

[restive wolf]

she eats ass

[tawdry fable]

🤓

[restive wolf]

LMAO

[restive wolf]

oh hush

[blissful goblet]

What about reaper+soldier67

[analog niche]

Nah

[peak escarp]

Reaper had a wife

[restive wolf]

idk

oh

[peak escarp]

and is most likely straight

[vocal marsh]

It’s still a common…art form

[blissful goblet]

soldier had a boyfriend

[vocal marsh]

Not really

[peak escarp]

that was during the crisis

[vocal marsh]

He left him

[peak escarp]

30 years ago

[restive wolf]

soldier, lifeweaver, and tracer are canon gay i think

babtise

[blissful goblet]

reaper has a skin called soldier 24

[restive wolf]

is also bi maybe

[peak escarp]

Gabriel and Martina were together when Overwatch fell and Reyes "died"

[vocal marsh]

Bap isn’t confirmed

Bap is flirtatious

[restive wolf]

oh

[blissful goblet]

24+67 = 100

[restive wolf]

the voice line w LW

[analog niche]

Soldier is lame that he’s gay. It doesn’t matter that he was gay because whether he was or not, his entire character is the kind that “I can’t be with you because of my job is too important blah blah blah” So really all you get as a crumb of representation when it doesn’t matter because that character development is just a dead end no matter who it is for.

[tawdry fable]

they’re all gay

[analog niche]

What was his bf’s name anyway?

[restive wolf]

idk

[blissful goblet]

overwatch is gay and i love it

[peak escarp]

Vincent

[blissful goblet]

i love it

[analog niche]

Vincent literally is a fridge character

So lame

[restive wolf]

yeah he’s like flirting w life weaver😭

[peak escarp]

would still be bad if Vincent was a woman

[vocal marsh]

Bap flirts with Ashe too

[analog niche]

I agree

That’s my point I guess

[restive wolf]

i think he may be bi

idk

nothing is confirmed

[tawdry fable]

y’all are stupid

[restive wolf]

🤓

[blissful goblet]

bap flirts with everyone

[analog niche]

Tracer’s girlfriend can routinely show up, but it wouldn’t really do anything for her character I think?

[vocal marsh]

He doesn’t flirt with doom 🤓

[restive wolf]

😭

[blissful goblet]

yeah

[restive wolf]

doom is boring to me sorry

[blissful goblet]

ya

[analog niche]

But with soldier, Vincent will almost certainly never show up again bc of the kind of character that Jack is

[peak escarp]

Emily at least appears in the story a few times

[tawdry fable]

mei destroys the whole cast

[analog niche]

^

Good

[peak escarp]

also because their relationship was 30 years ago

[analog niche]

No more junk rat

[blissful goblet]

WHAT

[restive wolf]

junk rat x roadhog

[analog niche]

Yeah and with ow2, I think we are past all that

[blissful goblet]

whyyy

[restive wolf]

is rea

l

[peak escarp]

it would be weird for Soldier's ex to suddenly be relevant again

[analog niche]

Ow1 kinda liked to dabble in both the last and future

[blissful goblet]

basicly yes but roadhog is a bit old i think

[peak escarp]

he's a very "married to the mission" kind of guy

[restive wolf]

oh

[blissful goblet]

I love th LW - Junkrat voiceline about him and roadhog

[tawdry fable]

i think both junkrat and roadhog should die

[blissful goblet]

no

[analog niche]

Hey guys, look. We have this arguably annoying character archetype in gay flavor now.

[restive wolf]

YES ITS FUNNY

and cute

[tawdry fable]

everyone but mei sucks

[restive wolf]

oh hush

[analog niche]

I always thought they’d make rein gay

[restive wolf]

u talk to much

[vocal marsh]

*she demon

[analog niche]

I wish they did instead

[blissful goblet]

he has ana now

[restive wolf]

why would they

[analog niche]

Ana has a hubby you tranch

[analog niche]

I meant half a decade ago

[restive wolf]

js preference?

[tawdry fable]

rein x ana

[vocal marsh]

Ana is trying to find a time to reconnect with Sam

[restive wolf]

ohhh

[vocal marsh]

Or at least that’s what she says

[blissful goblet]

1. I didnt know that 2. Theyre flirting the whole time so i guess ana is cheating

[analog niche]

She wants the big beefy German man

I do too lol

[restive wolf]

i think hammond and junk rat are friends

they would be

[analog niche]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-lmao-gif-24258630

I mean come on

I don’t blame ana

[restive wolf]

oo lalal

[tawdry fable]

my fave ship is hammond x widow

[analog niche]

Sam is just a guy

[restive wolf]

ooo lala

[analog niche]

Rein is a crusader

Ooh

[restive wolf]

what

[analog niche]

Uhhh

[restive wolf]

hammond is animal

[peak escarp]

but Sam is Canadian, that makes him better

[blissful goblet]

bro..

[analog niche]

False, it makes him a nice guy

And nice guys finish last

[tawdry fable]

and winston x mercy is a personal fave

[restive wolf]

LMAO

[analog niche]

Mercy is a gold digger

To fund her medical research

[restive wolf]

LMAOO

[vocal marsh]

Soldier x Tracer 💯

[restive wolf]

oh ok!

[tawdry fable]

you suck no joke

[blissful goblet]

she has a girlfriend

[vocal marsh]

It’s a joke

[restive wolf]

gay on gay

LMAO

[analog niche]

I wonder if that was a ship early on

[restive wolf]

idk

[analog niche]

Like before tracer’s girlfriend

[restive wolf]

widowmaker x tracer

[analog niche]

That would be hilarious lol

No

[vocal marsh]

Yeah that was the one

[analog niche]

No widowmaker

She’s gross

[restive wolf]

i like widowmaker

she’s cool

[analog niche]

Gross

[tawdry fable]

my favorite overwatch character is prob daryl dixon. i rlly loved his cinematic w orisa

[restive wolf]

why

[analog niche]

She is girl

[restive wolf]

what

[analog niche]

Girls are icky

[peak escarp]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[restive wolf]

😭

[fresh rock]

Woah MAMA

[restive wolf]

me too

[blissful goblet]

🥲

[tawdry fable]

🤓

[analog niche]

Were soldier 76 and guillard just “friends”?

👀

[vocal marsh]

Yes

[peak escarp]

you mean Gerard

[analog niche]

I can’t spell

You should know this

[blissful goblet]

who tf is guillard

[vocal marsh]

Gerard

[blissful goblet]

._.

[tawdry fable]

i love guillarx

d

[peak escarp]

Guillard is Widowmaker's maiden name, from before she got married

[vocal marsh]

Guillard is Widows maiden name

[analog niche]

Fair enough

[peak escarp]

that's why the map is called Chateau Guillard

[analog niche]

My moms maiden name is Jeff

[blissful goblet]

oh

[vocal marsh]

Has Chateau Guillard appeared in any comics?

[analog niche]

Ok so French boy and American boy, friends or “friends”?

[blissful goblet]

My dads maiden name is hoffmann

[peak escarp]

no

[fresh rock]

Château Guillard?

[blissful goblet]

yeah i remember

[blissful goblet]

yes

[analog niche]

No

[blissful goblet]

why

[analog niche]

Idk

[blissful goblet]

ok

[analog niche]

Why is it no?

Jk

It’s probably no

Just bros

[blissful goblet]

ask the dude with the cassidy pfp

[analog niche]

He already said no

🤡

[blissful goblet]

im mean why

[analog niche]

Oh

[vocal marsh]

Six is female

[analog niche]

@peak escarp why

[peak escarp]

I was replying to Cheesecake's question

[analog niche]

Oh

[blissful goblet]

oh💀

[analog niche]

So what about ours?

[blissful goblet]

true

[analog niche]

Six?

[peak escarp]

yes?

[vocal marsh]

Doctor Six

[analog niche]

Oh

[blissful goblet]

oh

[fresh rock]

Aight cmon now

[analog niche]

Who is that?

[vocal marsh]

Bruh

[blissful goblet]

i thougt u mean 6

[analog niche]

@peak escarp were jack and Gerard just bros or 👀

[peak escarp]

Gerard was married to his wife Amelie

happily married

[twilit patrol]

And she killed him

[blissful goblet]

cough

[peak escarp]

it wasn't her fault

Talon made her do it

[analog niche]

False

[blissful goblet]

blame moirararara

[analog niche]

She knew about the cheating

With soldier 69

[peak escarp]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[analog niche]

Fine

Jeez

[peak escarp]

this is a serious discussion channel

[blissful goblet]

hes doing his job🫡

[peak escarp]

I've been tolerating a lot

[analog niche]

That’s fair I guess

Fine

[twilit patrol]

Oh i didn’t know that. I just knew she killed him.

[blissful goblet]

moira manipulatet her

[analog niche]

Isn’t the timeline/motivation weird on that?

[blissful goblet]

idk

[analog niche]

Like when ow2 released

[peak escarp]

Gerard was head of Overwatch's anti Talon operations... after several failed attempts at assassinating him, they kidnapped his wife, turned her into a sleeper agent, and she killed him in his sleep 2 weeks later

afterwards, she went back to Talon and asked them to turn off her emotions because she didn't like that she enjoyed killing

[analog niche]

🕷️

[peak escarp]

and Moira being Moira, got ambitious and also slowed her heartrate, which turned her blue

she has a history of going farther than requested

[analog niche]

Oh moira, what are we going to do with you

Tsk tsk

[vocal marsh]

Burned at the stake

[analog niche]

I like her gray hair

That’s a great design choice

That not a lot of games make

Bc old women 🤮

Apparently

Now that I think about it, there a lot of women in overwatch that are actually above the age of 30 lol. (Mercy you don’t count stfu you cheated)

[peak escarp]

Overwatch only has 3 women over 40

[analog niche]

That’s way more than 0

[peak escarp]

Ana [60], Moira [48] and Sojourn [age unknown, probably mid 50s]

[analog niche]

Oh wtf

That’s…. Interesting

[peak escarp]

next oldest is Ashe, at 39

[analog niche]

Sojourn is way older than I thought

But it makes sense

[peak escarp]

she fought in the omnic crisis

she'd have to be older

[analog niche]

Right I know, it just never clicked for me

How old is mercy?

[peak escarp]

37

[analog niche]

No way

[peak escarp]

same age as Cassidy

[analog niche]

🤤

But how

There’s no way

[peak escarp]

why not?

she looks 37

[analog niche]

Right, that’s what I mean. I thought she should look much older but doesn’t after all this time bc of her medical technology

Wasn’t that her thing?

[peak escarp]

no

[analog niche]

Dang

Mandela effect but localized to my brain lol

How old is Mei?

[peak escarp]

Mei is biologically 31, but she was frozen for 9 years

so chronologically, she's 40

[analog niche]

9 years makes sense

My brain thought it’d be longer tho for some reason

Bc of the timeline how how overwatch fell

[vocal marsh]

JQ is in her 30s right?

[analog niche]

She’s immortal

Bc she’s like a Greek god with those abs

But yeah I think so

The wiki says in her late thirties

Is there any lore or anything for the Atlantis map?

Or is that not “real”

[peak escarp]

there, made a chart of all their ages

[upbeat violet]

Winston’s 29? 😟

[alpine meadow]

nice

[analog niche]

Very awesome, thank you

[analog niche]

Orisa?

[peak escarp]

her official age was listed as 1 month old

I assume this was her age at the time of OW1

they haven't given us updated ages for OW2

[analog niche]

That’s what I figured

It just looked funny haha

[vocal marsh]

What is the minimum age for Echo

[analog niche]

Couldn’t it be argued that bastion is ahout as old as Orisa?

[vocal marsh]

No

[analog niche]

Why?

[peak escarp]

if you're counting from when Bastion woke up, he'd be about 15

[analog niche]

Wait no way

[vocal marsh]

Orisa was made by Efi

[analog niche]

He’s been walking around for 15 years?

[vocal marsh]

We’re not counting her OR-15 time

[analog niche]

Holy shit

My mind is blown

[peak escarp]

The Last Bastion takes place about 15 years before Recall

[analog niche]

I always assumed it was like right before recall

So when was the torb comic?

[peak escarp]

Binary is present day

[analog niche]

Huh

Neat

[fickle flower]

Is there any explanation for Reyes and how he became flat out evil?

[analog niche]

Maximum edge, bc he is like cartoonishly evil

I don’t think you can reasonably explain it lol

[vocal marsh]

Revenge

[analog niche]

Is it though? I thought they retconned that

[vocal marsh]

Does Reaper think negatively of Ana?

And if so how negative

[fickle flower]

Of all the characters, Reaper definitely is the only one who is truly evil

in all aspects

[analog niche]

Edgelord

[fickle flower]

He needs more lore tbh

[upbeat violet]

he’s not really evil

[fickle flower]

Idk man, he has a pretty convincing evil laugh

[upbeat violet]

i mean like sure he’s willing to go to extreme ends to achieve is goals

which is something he was being held back from doing in overwatch

[analog niche]

No he is like Saturday morning cartoon evil now lol

He wasn’t evil until he shopped at hot topic

[upbeat violet]

is he

[analog niche]

Yes

He is a villain in the classic sense of the word

Not like Doomfist or Ramattra

[fickle flower]

Doomfist and Rammatra fall under the categories of Thanos type villains

[analog niche]

Where does he get shotguns from

[fickle flower]

Believing extreme measures are the only way to achieve peace

[analog niche]

Asking the real lore questions now lol

[fickle flower]

I like to think he magically pulls them out of his ass

lol

[analog niche]

Uhhhh

[fickle flower]

Blizz owes us an explanation for that

[analog niche]

https://tenor.com/view/twerk-spongebob-squarepants-gif-14886302

I know his wraith form is explained scientifically but it feels so much like magic

[blissful goblet]

Watch out, the cassidy dude comes back and says that its a serious channel

[upbeat violet]

his conversations with doom plus seeing how overwatch turned out definitely fueled said ideology

[analog niche]

I think they were taking about the shotguns

But yeah

[upbeat violet]

oh

[analog niche]

Still

[hidden mist]

Its made from his cells same way he can go into wraith form by breaking down his cells

[analog niche]

That’s not “evil”

[analog niche]

So he can just make a nuke

And drop it in a government building

And wraith out of there

[ivory garnet]

we dont know where Reaper gets his shotguns

we’ve only ever seen him use 2 pairs

[analog niche]

I only have 1 pair

[rare trail]

when was that stated?

[fickle flower]

there's a bit of dialogue between him and moira

[ivory garnet]

all we know about Reaper’s shotguns, are that he uses necrotic rounds

[rare trail]

whats the interaction?

[hidden mist]

Well its implied sense he has infinite guns and you can see them forming from his body when he reloads safe to say its the same way he teleports

[ivory garnet]

its never implied that

we have only ever seen him use 2 pairs of shotguns

[rare trail]

the reload animation isnt canon

i dont remember if teleport is canon

[ivory garnet]

all of his abilities are

[hidden mist]

Look at the ground when he reloads his guns are still there

[rare trail]

thats not canon

[hidden mist]

Watch the cinematics bro

[fickle flower]

I don't remember it word for word but it basically has to do with his abilities being a product of Moira experimenting on him, I'm pretty sure Moira's abilities are the perfected version of his abilities

[rare trail]

which cinematic does it show reaper reloading?

[fickle flower]

Ow1 announcement trailer, Recall, and the Sombra cinematic

[hidden mist]

Every time hes fighting look at any of them like the 2 where he fights Winton

[ivory garnet]

the museum and recall show him reloading, but again, we only ever see him use 2 pairs of shotguns

there is no implication he has infinite shotguns

[hidden mist]

So explain how he throws 2 guns and pulls out the same 2

[ivory garnet]

because he has them on his waist