lore-discussion

[dense nebula]

The only person currently working in Talon that we have as a playable character that isn’t their of their own free will is Sigma right?

[worthy rose]

Sigma ain’t even strong lore wise

[dense nebula]

Cause Moira, Reaper, Sombra and Widowmaker and Doomfist are all there willingly

[worthy rose]

Reaper victim

[rare trail]

i mean he isnt forced to be there

he just likes doing experiments and they let him do experiments

[dense nebula]

Yeah well I take it they wouldn’t exactly let him just walk right out

[worthy rose]

Ok that’s good to hear

[opaque scroll]

what about the rein skin they showed in the trailer?

[peak escarp]

it's not in the game yet

they'll add it later

[analog niche]

Triple A be like

[wicked geode]

widow is brainwashed, everybody else but her and sig are there of their own accord

[rare trail]

she is there of her own free will

"With few other options left, Amélie returned to Talon, chasing the high that had both thrilled and terrified her."

[wicked geode]

where tf is this from lol

[rare trail]

the overwatch official website lol

[rare trail]

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/heroes/widowmaker/

[wicked geode]

same source puts her as brainwashed both before (neural reconditioning) and after (moira experiments) she joined lol, feel like it's a little dubious to say that's of "her own free will"

but ig technically "she" "willingly" returned to talon

[peak escarp]

there's nothing that says Moira's experiments involved brainwashing

only suppressing her emotions

[golden oak]

Wait so she randomly turned evil

[wicked geode]

Ye what I meant

[rare trail]

not randomly she just got a taste for killing and liked it

[wicked geode]

It's clear she's still brainwashed from being kidnapped lol so idk if that counts as free will

[rare trail]

?

wdym

[wicked geode]

You know how like consent works

[golden oak]

Then what was kidnapping for?

[wicked geode]

It doesn't really hold if ur not of sound mind or under the influence

Right?

[rare trail]

to become a sleeper agent who would kill her husband

[wicked geode]

Yeah they changed her entire personality and allat, according to the website

[golden oak]

So she was actually working with talon before kidnapping

?

[rare trail]

no

[rare trail]

what exactly do they say?

[wicked geode]

Mb I'm hallucinating

Just says intense reprogramming blah blah blah

I might be thinking of her trailer

[golden oak]

It makes no sense without brainwashing

[wicked geode]

But yeah if you get subjected to "intense neural reprogramming" and become a sleeper agent

Idk if you can say you do things out of "free will"

💀

[golden oak]

Why would they kidnap her if they wouldn’t brainwash her

[peak escarp]

I get the feeling people have different interpretations of what brainwashing is

her conditioning made her into a sleeper agent, programmed to kill her husband - that's it

[golden oak]

That’s literally brainwashing

[peak escarp]

there were no instructions to come back to Talon afterward

so in that sense, yes she returned of her own free will

[golden oak]

Tbh soldier 76 says in game he warned Gerard about her so

[peak escarp]

yes but it didnt make her loyal to Talon

[peak escarp]

like any friend would warn them about a new girlfriend - that was long before any of this happened

sorry for the pings

[golden oak]

Wouldn’t talon kill her if she didn’t join them cuz like she knew talon ordered the assassination and stuff

[peak escarp]

🤷‍♀️

[golden oak]

Also she would be a suspect and talon grants her protection right

I feel like talon was her best choice

[peak escarp]

it was

she couldn't go to Overwatch or the police

[golden oak]

Yeah that’s my point, he knew there was something off about her even before she was turned into talon agent

[peak escarp]

or Jack is just paranoid

which he is, regardless

[golden oak]

Is it still paranoia if ur right tho

[peak escarp]

I want to see what Amelie was like before

give her a short story

[dense nebula]

Nope, Widow’s there on her own will too

She is brainwashed yes, but she’s also still there because it’s the only way she can feel alive

[wicked geode]

Again idk if you can say she's there of her own free will and she's brainwashed at the same time 💀

[peak escarp]

you can

because her "brainwashing" is not why she returned to Talon

[past copper]

So while we haven't experienced it yet

What ur thought on Talantis

[dense nebula]

How the fuck is Talantis going to work in lore?

Is it some sort of Vishkar version of Rapture?

[peak escarp]

it's noncanon

[past copper]

It's apparently a Talon base

And seems the devs made it for the fans

[ivory garnet]

Talantis is non canon

[keen summit]

Yeah ite noncanon made in a fuckin stream

[karmic turret]

we made talantis on stream

was a fun stream

[hasty walrus]

Talantis is noncanon but its supposed to be an underwater talon base

[golden oak]

Oh it’s talon and Atlantis combined

[worthy rose]

yo, guys, do yall remember that one short story with sym and zen?

uhh Stone By Stone was it?

[grand wedge]

yes

[worthy rose]

well, what did yall think of it

[grand wedge]

it's the best short story of Overwatch

the characterization of Symmetra was on point - and the meeting with Zenyatta may be a catalyst for her making the right choices in the future of the story

[pliant grove]

Is there a good video that fully says all of the important parts of the game's lore?

[idle finch]

Idk how good it is compared to others but I watched this https://youtu.be/-aPY1OaEPjs

[pliant grove]

That's what i'm currently watching rn

[rare trail]

for a tldr of the lore
people made robots
evil ai rebelled against humanity and used the robots(called omnics) to start a war
overwatch was formed to fight against it
the omnic crisis ended
omnics gain sentience
talon was a terrorist group going around causing trouble so blackwatch was formed as a more shady part of overwatch specifically to be anti talon
blackwatch is revealed and the public doesnt like the things they did so they're forced to shut down by the petras act
overwatch is recalled by winston
theres these guys called null sector who are omnics who are very pro omnic equality that theyre using violence to get it

[pliant grove]

k thx

[twilit patrol]

What’s timeline between Torb adopting Bastion and OW2 PvE ?

[rare trail]

we dont really know when ow2 pve will happen in lore

[twilit patrol]

Ok

I hearded voiceline where Torb treats Bastion like a sh*t but i don’t know if it was in OW1

[viscid flame]

A year or two at max I think, but in either case, long enough for Bastion to get brand new parts and body overhaul by Torb

and for Torb to no longer be anti-omnic

[summer tulip]

What is different about biolight from hard light?

[limpid agate]

Biolight makes organic matter

Hard light makes inanimate objects

[summer tulip]

But it is light?

[limpid agate]

Is the same as hard light

[summer tulip]

It isnt organic

[limpid agate]

The difference is the product

[summer tulip]

Ok i get it

Thanks

Wait no

I still dont fully get how light can be alive

The concept of this is confusing me

I think i should just ignore this and dont question it

[simple tapir]

The more you know

[grand wedge]

that's science-fiction no need to look at the how - because it would not make sense in real life

but it make it work in a sci-fi universe

[bronze vortex]

From what I can scrounge all hard-light is using light to mimic physical materials, such as solid stone, and is versatile enough to make an entire city, so it’s just using it to create biological things

Potentially the actual plant materials mixed into the bio light simply allows the hard-light to replicate the organic material rather than making it from scratch without any template

[austere agate]

does matt mercer also voice levi from aot?

sorry not exactly lore

[peak escarp]

yes

[austere agate]

I had no idea

suddenly I like him a lot more

[chrome pawn]

Why is doomfist black

I need lore behind that

[rare trail]

?

[chrome pawn]

What

[rare trail]

hes nigerian?

[chrome pawn]

African

[rare trail]

theres doesnt need to be a lore reason for someones race 💀

[chrome pawn]

Why

[rare trail]

like you wouldnt ask the lore reason for tracer being white

[chrome pawn]

I would

[rare trail]

why

[chrome pawn]

Because I creamed on her

That’s why she white

[rare trail]

!!loreonly

[twilit nacelle]

This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[chrome pawn]

I’m sorry

Didn’t know that

[peak escarp]

gross

[chrome pawn]

Is torn actually brig dad

[rare trail]

yes

torb and ingrid and brigs parents

[chrome pawn]

He’s a dwarf

Which brother is cooler

Genji

Hamza

Hanzo

[rare trail]

thats subjective

i like genji though

[chrome pawn]

Ok

[peak escarp]

I like Genji better than Hanzo

[rare trail]

the short story with hanzo should be cool

it would be nice to know what hes doing now

[peak escarp]

yeah

it's been so long since he got any lore

[fresh rock]

Always liked Hanzo more. I see Genji way too much nowadays. Obviously Genji would be better to be around.

[worthy rose]

hanzo is probably just doing nothing and thinking about his brother and stuff

[molten shore]

Is there a overwatch height chart or something like that

Like comparing how tall everyone is

[worthy rose]

idk

[worthy rose]

is there any lore between pharah and mercy?

[twilit patrol]

I don't think

[rare trail]

theyre both in overwatch

there in no romantic connection between them though

people just ship it because of their synergy in game

[twilit patrol]

Yes it's stupid

But they both can be friends

[rare trail]

especially because mercy has strong romantic connection to genji

[worthy rose]

ahhh i see

i was so confused about it haha

[rare trail]

there are some lgbt ships in game that are supported though

like bap lifeweaver

emily and tracer

soldier is gay too

not really anyone viable to ship him with though

[woven jewel]

This I haven't heard

[rare trail]

its in bastet short story

he had a boyfriend who was named vincent but they broke up bc soldier was too invested in work

[placid basin]

the first one

[woven jewel]

ah, I should actually read some of these stories to get more info

Or at least the wikis at least

[grand wedge]

Pharah was never Overwatch - her mother was against it. She joined New Overwatch when Cassidy recruited her.

[rare trail]

so she is a part of overwatch

[grand wedge]

now

not then

[rare trail]

she is now

i didnt say she was in overwatch before

[grand wedge]

Oh, thats what you meant

I thought you were making Mercy and Pharah history

[dense nebula]

In game dialogue doesn’t count

[rare trail]

it kinda does

[dense nebula]

They never met in lore yet

[grand wedge]

because they knew each other when they were younger that's for sure

[rare trail]

more supported than other ships

[grand wedge]

They have

[rare trail]

bap lifeweaver not mercy pharah

bap and lifeweaver havent met

[dense nebula]

Mercy Pharah is a stupid ship anyways

[grand wedge]

rah, two conversation at the same time ><

[dense nebula]

Only exists because of a synergy

[rare trail]

yeah

[dense nebula]

Not to my knowledge

Just a high ranking one

Same with Junkrat Roadhog shipping, in lore Roadhog barely tolerates Junkrat

Only reason he sticks around is cause the pay is good

[idle finch]

voice lines hardly count but the lw/junkrat convo about roadhog and junkrat being a coupole is funny af

junkrat is a single celled organism and its hilarious

[quiet rune]

[golden oak]

What do we know about helix security

[peak escarp]

they're a paramilitary organization that filled the void when Overwatch fell

Pharah is the only notable member

Helix was responsible for the prison Doomfist was held in, and for guarding former Overwatch bases like Watchpoint: Grand Mesa

[wind portal]

do we have anything on Roadhog doing anything that might've involved Helix outside of a lone interaction between Pharah and him?

[peak escarp]

besides his global heist spree with Junkrat?

[wind portal]

Yeah, cause I don't remember if he did anything solo or not outside of being with the wreckers

[peak escarp]

nothing specific

he's just a wanted man

[golden oak]

Why does soldier 76 hate them

Or dislike

[peak escarp]

because they're doing the job he used to do

and they're in the way of him getting his vengeance on Talon

[golden oak]

Oh

[tepid sinew]

why is soldier so mad at talon that hes tryna run ups 1s against the whole damn thing

like winton and the gang were shown together in the zero hour cinematic so could he not go back to them and get help

[rare trail]

yeah he doesnt want to be a part of overwatch

idk why

[tepid sinew]

bros just like that fr fr

[wind portal]

he doesn't want to return to overwatch because he believes what they're doing is illegal

[peak escarp]

they blew up Overwatch HQ and almost killed him

and they're basically responsible for the fall of Overwatch

[limber lichen]

but like aint he a wanted criminal aswell? 💀

[peak escarp]

yes

[golden oak]

Because hes a vigilante

[peak escarp]

Soldier won't rejoin Overwatch because he believes doing that without taking down Talon first will just lead to the same outcome

[wind portal]

criminals can think things are illegal as well

[tepid sinew]

is talon actually evil or just misunderstood

[golden oak]

They are evil

[peak escarp]

Talon are evil

[tepid sinew]

misunderstood

like they arent actually bad they have good intentions that seem bad yk

[golden oak]

Instigating conflicts isn’t good

[peak escarp]

they're literal terrorists

[tepid sinew]

but like so is hog and junkrat but they are just silly little guys

[peak escarp]

Roadhog and Junkrat are the comedic relief characters

Talon are the badguys

they're starting a war between humans and omnics

[golden oak]

I’d say overwatch would do the same with Junkrat and roadhog as with talon members if they caught them but they’re not after bank robbers so

[past copper]

Overwatch handled a war and after large criminal groups

Such as Talon, Null Sector, the Shimada Clan, and the Deadlock Gang

Small time criminals would not have even been on Overwatch's radar

Junkrat and Roadhog aren't big time criminals and the biggest thing they've done is blow up two buildings in Australia

[austere agate]

I wonder if pve will include any non overwatch or talon storylines

like the junkers

or the deadlock gang

[past copper]

Doubtful

It's focused on Overwatch fighting a war

[peak escarp]

maybe in future arcs, or events

[past copper]

At most, I can't imagine anything bigger than the other heroes getting cameos

Probably watching the news in some way

Hearing about how Null Sector started a global invasion

Tho might be a 10% chance of Junkrat and Hog appearing in the story

Bc we know they travel but don't know where they are right now

Same can be said of Hammond since we have no idea where he is either

[austere agate]

do sym and vishkar fit into the main storyline?

I may have spelled that wrong

probably the group I know the least about

[peak escarp]

Symmetra's boss/handler is secretly a Talon leader

Vishkar is just a basic corrupt company

[fresh rock]

I have come to a terrible realization.

With the upcoming of PvE, Archive events are gone.

For good.

[peak escarp]

maybe, maybe not

those missions could still be added in to the PvE

it would be a shame if we lost them for good

[fresh rock]

Wait

That's a good idea

No, a great idea

Clever clever.

[austere agate]

I hope so

I feel like they have a lot of new players

like me

so itd be cool to play

[peak escarp]

Archives was their most popular event, no way they just delete those missions forever

[dense nebula]

@peak escarp do we know of any Omnic generals that follow Ramattra?

Any named ones anyways?

[peak escarp]

not currently

[dense nebula]

I hope there’s special named generals for more potential Null Sector heroes

Because surely Ramattra won’t be the only rep for that faction

[peak escarp]

Nameless, Zera and Lanet did follow him, but Lanet was killed during the King's Row Uprising, and Nameless and Zera left Ramattra because he was unreasonable

we might get some lieutenants during the story mode

[dense nebula]

I hope we got one of those fat priest looking omnics as a support

[vocal marsh]

Is the name Symmetra found anywhere in the lore or is it solely made for the game

[dense nebula]

Symmetra is the name of a character in the lore

[vocal marsh]

Her name is Satya

[dense nebula]

Ever heard of a call sign

[vocal marsh]

She’s not a combatant

Tracer and D.Va make sense

[dense nebula]

Don’t need to be a combatant to have a title you go by

[peak escarp]

Satya Vaswani is a Vishkar special agent known as Symmetra

she is a combatant

she has fought and even killed

[vocal marsh]

Hb Lifeweaver

Even though we don’t know much about him

[dense nebula]

Lifeweaver is still such a stupid name imo

[austere agate]

eh

not that different from widowmaker

if u think about it

[dense nebula]

At least Widowmaker works

[vocal marsh]

Imo it’s too many words

Widow at least makes her sound more menacing

I also think JQ is stupid

[austere agate]

how does widowmaker work and not lifeweaver

[vocal marsh]

Lifeweaver sounds like a Description

Widow sounds like a call sign

[dense nebula]

Life maker

[austere agate]

cause you’re used to it

[dense nebula]

Widow Weaver

[austere agate]

she makes widows

[dense nebula]

[austere agate]

he weaves life

[vocal marsh]

I mean JQ is also stupid

Least creative name

[dense nebula]

Odessa is her first name

Dez is her nickname

[vocal marsh]

Ye Odessa Stone

Imagine seeing JQ and calling her Dez 💀

[dense nebula]

Imagine looking at Leatherface and calling him Bubba

[worthy cave]

Hello everyone

[upbeat dune]

hey

[hexed lodge]

hey

[quick tree]

hey

[twilit patrol]

Greetings

[worthy rose]

hi

[quiet rune]

Ramattra lonely 🥺

[keen summit]

kace likely

[quiet rune]

It’s probably her job name or part of her and lifeweavers “culture” (or something idk) but those names represent Satyas and Lifweavers (idk his real name) style of hard light

[quiet rune]

WDYM His hard light is alive, therefore, when he uses his hard light, he is weaving life bance the name

[quiet rune]

It is a description, she is the Queen of the Junkers, would you rather be called Odessa ?

[keen summit]

vivian is soj

[quiet rune]

Shh… you saw nothing…

[keen summit]

jq is odessa

ah yea

nvm

[quiet rune]

Yes I just corrected it, shh…

[keen summit]

anyways most heroes dont use their actual names for logical reasons

[quiet rune]

Such as, SpooderMan

[keen summit]

only the ones who well dont sound weird as a name for a character get one thats why genji hanzo and kiriko are normal names

they arent like what u would call ur friend

[quiet rune]

If those were their names I prob would

Unless we were BFFs then I would call them dumbass lol

[keen summit]

say if soj was just named vivian, then if you are playing with a friend its more likely theyd be called vivian than genji in the us

same with reinhardt which generally is a second name not first name in germany

[quiet rune]

Oh

[keen summit]

so you wouldnt call ur friend like fred reinhardt you would say fred

[quiet rune]

Yea dat makes sense

But I would call them what they would want to be called :)

[keen summit]

the names that are uncommon often use it

ana for example aswell, not a common name

[golden oak]

Isn’t Reinhardt’s first name Wilhelm tho

[keen summit]

yes

thats exactly what i mean

Wilhelm would be a name a player could have so say you give call outs it wouldnt feel right

[twilit patrol]

That's Reinhardt his first name, no ?

[keen summit]

Yes

His full name is Wilhelm Reinhardt

Kiriko hanzo and genji arent common names either

Eveb in japan

[golden oak]

Having Ashe named Elizabeth in game would be weird tbh

[keen summit]

True

They also try to havecmax 3 syllables

[twilit patrol]

Very weird yes

[worthy rose]

hi

[twilit patrol]

Greetings

[worthy rose]

you know how the Overwatch 2 History is, I want to analyze it before bringing you something

[twilit patrol]

Hmm no i don't know

[worthy rose]

[twilit patrol]

[rare trail]

as a vague summary
a woman named dr.liao created robots
evil ai called anubis turned all the robots evil and waged a war
overwatch formed to stop them
they won the war against the robots who are called omnics
omnics gain sentience because liao was experimenting
talon is a goofy lil terrorist group so blackwatch is formed within overwatch to try and stop them but like theyre also more shady than blackwatch
blackwatch is revealed the public gets mad and overwatch is stopped
null sector forms which is an omnic terrorist group willing to get their rights at any cost
overwatch is recalled by winston

[worthy rose]

@rare trail

[twilit patrol]

It’s perfect

[worthy rose]

@twilit patrol,

[twilit patrol]

But that’s Overwatch story, not Overwatch 2 story

[worthy rose]

@twilit patrol,

[twilit patrol]

I’m kinda right. Overwatch Recall by Winston was in OW1. And i believe Overwatch 2 is a year after.

[worthy rose]

It is interesting, although they should try to improve the Maps with the change that is beginning to take place in History. An Example, each Overwatch 2. Season, there could be that kind of change in the entire Gameplay, affecting the terrain with changes that improve its benefits when being in a Group

[rare trail]

overwatch 2 story is just winston recalling

there isnt much

overwatch fights null sector and talon thats it for now

[twilit patrol]

It was in OW1 no ?

[rare trail]

yea

there isnt like any lore specific stuff to ow2 though

null sector is pretty new ig

[twilit patrol]

Yes

[worthy rose]

Obviously, to understand History much better, would it be something positive?. I don't know, but it wouldn't be the only thing on my mind

[twilit patrol]

Hmm i guess

[worthy rose]

normally the game is in a good state, although something fundamental does not stand out. How should your story progress?, all this question is what makes it easier for you to understand what I want to propose with this possible change within the game

[rare trail]

the story is just gonna be overwatch fighting null sector as of rn

[twilit patrol]

No ?

[rare trail]

thats the main story

what else is there

[worthy rose]

It is known how the Enemy that we currently do not know is getting Stronger?

[rare trail]

wdym

wdym the enemy we dont know? we know who null sector is we know who/what their troops are

[twilit patrol]

I guess we’ll fight Talon

[rare trail]

talon and null sector are tied

the main thing is null sector though

all the trailers show you fighting omnics

and the shorts released for the game

like in zero hour they fight null sector drones not talon

talon is probably gonna be in it but the main bad guy is null sector

[worthy rose]

i think that it is still not an Overwatch 2 due to that failure, I understand that they still need to show us things. What kind?, apart from its Story Mode?

[twilit patrol]

That’s exactly what i guess

[rare trail]

wdym not an overwatch 2? what is an overwatch 2? wdym they need to show us things?

do you mean that like its not really a sequel bc pve isnt out?

[worthy rose]

At least.. I want to see the Enemy and what the Heroes are going to face, starting with putting track classes on the Maps and Updating them

[rare trail]

track classes???

what are track classes

what would you be updating the heroes the maps or the track classes?

[rare trail]

the enemy is just ramattra his army and talon we know what the heroes are going to face

[worthy rose]

see how I would see it, if I were part of the Overwatch Team. The Energy of the null sector could alter the Maps in terms of their playability

[rare trail]

wdym the energy

do you want changed maps based off like null sector battles?

i think so far thats only happened with kings row when the uprising event happened but it'll probably happen with paraiso when pve releases

[worthy rose]

How?, you may ask. Blackwatch would have to see and... I say that Overwatch will be threatened by a powerful class because of obtaining that Energy

[rare trail]

wdym blackwatch would have to see

blackwatch doesnt exist

not anymore

[summer tulip]

You really like this emoji

[worthy rose]

I don't think it's gone, soon you will know why

[rare trail]

yes it is

[rare trail]

?????

[twilit patrol]

[worthy rose]

Volskaya Industries, which they will have in their hidden files.

[rare trail]

?

what

blackwatch is gone

[rare trail]

volskaya doesnt have anything to do with blackwatch

[worthy rose]

test?.. that Experiment by capturing an Overwatch Agent, capable of controlling that power

[twilit patrol]

I don’t understand nothing

[rare trail]

??????

volskaya and blackwatch did nothing like that

[worthy rose]

We would not say that they are Agents of the Blackwatch, normal with all this. But something escapes me, at a certain point in the cities I have not yet seen this concentration of Energy. This is due to the fact that the Null sector is in another place, so they could expand it with certain New Maps

[twilit patrol]

[worthy rose]

Not only Volskaya Industries, should be investigated in other areas where anomalies occur

[rare trail]

who are agents of blackwatch? wdym this concentration of energy?

[worthy rose]

this could be the beginning of Overwatch 2 in its Story?

[rare trail]

????????

[twilit patrol]

[rare trail]

volskaya has nothing to do with the story of overwatch 2

[twilit patrol]

It doesn’t make sense

[worthy rose]

i knew that you would be confused with all this, but you should know that the null sector is a probable Experiment summary all this

[rare trail]

??????????

[worthy rose]

[twilit patrol]

Wow

[worthy rose]

Do you have any doubts?

[rare trail]

yes

a lot

[twilit patrol]

No no don’t worry

[worthy rose]

Can, I continue to expand this?

[twilit patrol]

No that’s right

[worthy rose]

Its Story Mode could explain to you what this kind consists of Experiment

[rare trail]

????????????

what experiement

[worthy rose]

the objetive of Null Sector, will create new Agents capable of wresting the power of the Heroes

[rare trail]

???????

[twilit patrol]

Are you serious ??

[worthy rose]

Now yes... Overwatch will have to fight to avoid it at all costs, which is why the chosen Agents or Heroes will be affected by that Energy Wave when trying to end the Experiment, we could even see the Enemy

[peak escarp]

what are you going on about

that's not the story

[twilit patrol]

[worthy rose]

Overwatch 2 doesn't have a Story yet so generally you should think of something similar to what, I'm trying to help you with

it's normal that you're confused because everything, i'm telling you still doesn't exist, nor is it related yet.

[twilit patrol]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[peak escarp]

it does have a story

[ivory garnet]

Null Sector took place when Overwatch was still active

Kings Row Uprising

[peak escarp]

Null Sector was created by Ramattra about 9 years ago

[worthy rose]

Don't worry, get more Agents to make their story even bigger and then think about this. Dear Overwatch

[twilit patrol]

9 years ?

[worthy rose]

@twilit patrol , @peak escarp

[peak escarp]

2 years before the King's Row Uprising

which was 7 years ago

[twilit patrol]

Ok

[peak escarp]

don't ping people

[worthy rose]

Rip Bastion in the Cinematic History?

[twilit patrol]

Bastion is still alive

[worthy rose]

@twilit patrol

[twilit patrol]

[worthy rose]

I think Bastion could appear in the possible new Cinematic that, I mentioned, honoring its Creator

[ivory garnet]

there wont be any new Cinematic Shorts until we get the Sojourn one, which will release when PvE does

not confirmed, just a hunch

[fresh rock]

I hate that it might be true.

I think a Sojourn cinematic will be... boring.

[twilit patrol]

Why Sojourn cinematic would be boring ?

[rain shoal]

maybe because she doesnt have enough lore for now?

[peak escarp]

she has a novel

[hardy finch]

whats echo’s lore

[merry mason]

made by dr mina liao, an inventor also partly responsible for creation omnics. echo was made to learn from her surroundings (hence the name) and adapt to any situation.

liao was killed but echo carries on her legacy. She was stuck in some containment pod until she was broken out

[golden oak]

Btw who imprisoned echo

[peak escarp]

she was put into storage when Overwatch fell

because she was an experimental robot

[merry mason]

yeah since robots having rights is kinda controversial in overwatch world

[rain sedge]

is ana stronger than widow

[rare trail]

i think so

[wind portal]

ana is the better shot yeah

[rain sedge]

ty

[twilit patrol]

Widow is a better shot 🇫🇷

[peak escarp]

Ana was the better shot... when she had both eyes

[twilit patrol]

She was yes..

But now she have only one and she's old..

[ivory garnet]

Widow beats Ana now

[twilit patrol]

Perhaps i would say

[wind portal]

Ana's still the better shot even with one eye

[twilit patrol]

I don't know but i think you meant she don't need two eyes to be a better shot

[young lily]

Would’ve baldreich lived if rein didn’t get cocky

[peak escarp]

probably

[worthy rose]

reading two messages of that person gave me a headache

[stoic coral]

Oh wait did lord chat

Also no Ana definitely beats widow

[jaunty pike]

Hey random question. Do you reckon there will be a fight between Sigma and Reinhardt? I got this idea since the only other Talon tank (Doomfist) fought the other original tank (Winston) we might get a fight between the second original tank (Reinhardt) and the other Talon tank, Sigma.

[peak escarp]

probably not

Sigma is kept in a lab and allowed to do science, he's not even fully aware that Talon is keeping him there

so he's not really a badguy

[golden oak]

Talon doesn’t plan on using his powers as a weapon?

[peak escarp]

they're more interested in using his research as a weapon at the moment

lore Sigma doesn't have the control/power that game Sigma has

[white cairn]

Ram doesn’t actually have a gender, does he?

[golden oak]

Oh

[golden oak]

People call him he

And zen calls him brother

[golden oak]

So he just went crazy?

[idle finch]

yes

exactly that

he was exposed to a blackhole for too long now hes mentally deranged

[dense nebula]

How long until we get the leader of the Hashimoto clan as a playable hero?

[timid cobalt]

who

oh dr phil yeah he comes out next year

[golden oak]

And who that is

Also we already have 3 Japanese characters, doubt there will be any more

[tepid sinew]

diversity in ow comes in stacks of 3 ig

[thick sable]

most obscure fun facts?

[peak escarp]

Junkrat likes his bubble tea half sweet

[golden oak]

Same tbh

[peak escarp]

I don't like boba

[pulsar yarrow]

What is rammatra’s ethnicity

[dense nebula]

Unnamed and unknown as of now, but Kiriko introduced the Hashimoto clan

So clearly something of note is going to come from them

Since any group introduced in shorts and lore had a member join (Sombra rolled with Los Muertos with a time to my knowledge considering she has a skin for it)

[peak escarp]

he's an omnic

he was built in an omnium in Antarctica

we don't know who their leader is

no idea

it's not up to me

what do you mean?

this channel is quiet because it's a serious discussion channel, not a place of socialization

[tall sleet]

💀

[dense nebula]

And we don’t have PvE mode yet nor any new comics, short stories or cinematics

So it’s a bit slow atm

[peak escarp]

Starwatch and the associated comic is the next thing coming

[tall sleet]

ugh i cant wait for pve i need those interactions and storylines

[dense nebula]

I still hope we get some development of the Hashimoto

[peak escarp]

it's an AU, but it's still a kind of lore

[dense nebula]

Hashimoto could be a cool way to introduce Talon into the East

[peak escarp]

Sojiro Shimada refused to work with Talon - it would make sense that he was assassinated to make way for the Hashimoto, who would work with Talon

[dense nebula]

I mainly want the Hashimoto leader to be as devoted to the Talon cause as Doomfist

To justify the alliance

[wind portal]

I don't think the Hashimoto leader would want to associate with Doomfist

they have their own cause

[tall sleet]

whats the tldr on the new hero

[wind portal]

friend of symmettra, former Vishkar employee

[dense nebula]

Well the Hashimoto filled the vacuum of the Shimada clan

[tall sleet]

good or bad

[dense nebula]

So it makes sense they’d eventually join Talon

[wind portal]

Neutral I believe

[peak escarp]

Symm's roomie from Vishkar, didn't like the way Vishkar did things so he left, made his own tech using Vishkar's hardlight, and is now hiding from them in the Atlantic Arcology

[tall sleet]

is he a support?

[peak escarp]

yes

[dense nebula]

Tho he focuses less on healing and more in tactical positioning

[tall sleet]

interesting

[peak escarp]

he's the support Symm people have been wanting

[tall sleet]

oooh yay

[wind portal]

If Mauga becomes a thing I'd want him to have synergy with Baptiste tbh

[tall sleet]

agree

i wonder if theres still plans for him to become a hero

[peak escarp]

it's been a while since we've heard anything about him

[wind portal]

He's one of the only suitable candidates to become a tank after we get the next support

since they'll be no more MEKA characters for a while

[dense nebula]

Tho he’s still romping about in lore, waiting

I hope to God he’s given the due he deserves

[wind portal]

There were plans to make him a tank in OW1 I believe but he was scrapped

[dense nebula]

It wasn’t scrapped

[peak escarp]

yes

[dense nebula]

It became Sigma

[wind portal]

Mauga was scrapped so Sigma could be made

[worthy rose]

Weird question

[wind portal]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[wind portal]

It's not actually

this is a serious discussion channel not a shit post

[thick sable]

ahh

[rare trail]

!!lfg

[twilit nacelle]

LOOKING FOR GROUP

If you are looking for people to play with, assign yourself an LFG role in #roles-old!

[twin scarab]

whats junkrats tire in lore and can he mine jump

[fresh rock]

If it isn't Mauga, and Blizzard pulls a fast one, I SWEAR.

Mauga gives us MORE Bap lore

And more Talon members

[worthy rose]

is ranked broken i am bronze 5 i won 5 games lost 1 as dps didnt got negative once for example 1game i played with echo i went 36-13 16k dmg

i cannot rank up

[rare trail]

His tire in lore is just a thing he wears it hasn’t been shown to actually do anything yet though and he can’t mine jump without blowing himself up

[rare trail]

#overwatch or #overwatch-serious are the places to talk about this kind of thing

[opal perch]

I feel like I'm the only one who actually likes Kiriko's interactions. People say they're cringe, but I don't see how.

[peak escarp]

I don't mind her

but she was better in the short

[opal perch]

That's fair, I suppose.

[golden oak]

Hashimotos have like a tiger on their logo right? What if their leader can control a spirit too

[twilit patrol]

What you meant

[stone lily]

Ayo wtf

Is bob breedable tho ?

[ivory garnet]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[surreal hound]

Yes.

[surreal hound]

A spirit that would act as a mercy damage boost but to a whole team, like kiriko’s ult, as well as providing a 50hp health buff or more

Would be pretty interesting

[golden oak]

So ow1 orisa ult

[surreal hound]

What

That was a thing?

[golden oak]

Yup

More or less

[surreal hound]

A tiger spirit sounds dope

[stone lily]

Couple years ago they planned on doing a show, is it cancelled?

On the lore

[surreal hound]

Considering blizzard’s dev team a couple years ago

It’s no surprise that it got cancelled

[atomic perch]

i just hate when u teleport and she says hey

it’s like debbie ryan

https://tenor.com/view/debbie-ryan-smirk-cute-pretty-gif-17087256

fail

but u know what i mean

[worthy rose]

@golden oak, What you say is Interesting

[golden oak]

?

[worthy rose]

thanks to the Cinematics the Overwatch we had, at least they have made it easier for me to create something to create a Story and.. I may have to continue Investigating about Hanzo and Genji

Suppose, Kiriko could appreciate Genji and Hanzo affection. I think Kiriko's power could be much greater, I'm not entirely clear about it, but.. I know where his (preview) History Advance could go with this Data

The clear thing about everything is to focus on that change affecting all 3, from there the Essence of Overwatch 2 would be born can you take all this for help?. I dont know Can you take all this as a help? However, the new Heroes seem to be beginning to have a relationship with this possible change.

New Era for Overwatch 2, is that the Blizzard producers in general and we must overcome the change to reach the Set Limit of all Overwatch Stories, that is why.. I have brought this part Small advance (Unofficial)

Now, If they should accept the change or follow the same path with Overwatch still, they decide and we how it should affect us. This is not only in Overwatch 2 it could also be seen in other games but with a different similar Essence

[keen summit]

eh thematically its more likely for them to have no spirit

[ivory garnet]

this person blabbers about random stuff

[keen summit]

shimadas are super traditional while kiriko and genji well combine future and tradition, so making the enemy of them be a person over focussed on future would fit the themes

[ivory garnet]

theres also nothing to investigate for Genji and Hanzo

Hanzo doesnt have the material

and Genji is rather vague even though he has material

[keen summit]

ive actually worked on a concept of hashimoto leader

working on script for fan made origin story n all

but we dont know if they even got spirits

[fresh rock]

Simple. She comes off as rude, I suppose. Most of her interactions make her feel cocky and rub others the wrong way.

[keen summit]

yeah the problem is nobody seems to mind it either

as the cast

[ivory garnet]

She’s a street kid

[keen summit]

so she comes off as rude while the rest just goes "aight"

[ivory garnet]

Street kids are normally cocky and a bit rude at somepoints, but she has a good personality

[keen summit]

i beg to differ on good personality part

[ivory garnet]

i mean that she is nice

[keen summit]

ahhh

yeah

[fresh rock]

Tsssss she rubs me the wrong way

[shadow marsh]

Her interaction with the deaf kid and the janitor quite shows she's got a good heart. Low-key still bugs me because according to lore she's in her 20s, and yet acts like a quirky teenager. Not saying I hate her though, she's new after all.

[true geode]

Breh, I didn’t know mercy and sigma knew each other, ain’t that something

[fresh rock]

Let me SEE

[dense nebula]

I don’t think the Hashimoto should have spirits

It seems their whole gimmick is cyberpunk with the more modern Yakuza style outfits with the Hannya masks

So their leader would most likely have some form of cybernetics that lean into the cyber Oni look

[summer tulip]

Did bastion fight during omnic crisis?

Someone said that he was off and just was there doing nothing the entire time

[grand wedge]

His pod landed far away and didn’t deploy

He is just watching the memories of another E-54 on the flashback scene

[grizzled grail]

Bastion is an enemy combatant with a triple digit body count against military and civilian targets alike

[shadow marsh]

Rammattra isn't annoying, most of the characters aren't

[peak escarp]

I've known a lot of 20-somethings who still acted like teenagers

I was one of them

[shadow marsh]

I see, point taken

[peak escarp]

Bastion hasn't killed anyone

its drop pod malfunctioned when it deployed and it never saw combat during the crisis

you can see the drop pod still around it in The Last Bastion

[dense nebula]

I know you highlighted it to show the pod but

The third one looks a bit Sus if you ask me

[peak escarp]

every damn time...

[dense nebula]

Eldritch Pattern Recognition is going to be the death of me

But yeah Bastion’s pod was knocked off course for some reason

[summer tulip]

I actually thought that either im going insane or my discord somehow scrolled up to a conversation that was like a year ago because i already read that before

[rare trail]

i thought his bio implied he fought

"One unique Bastion unit, severely damaged in the final battles of the war," i kinda think he fought

he might not have killed anyone though

[peak escarp]

it doesn't say he was damaged in combat

just damaged during the battle

which fits with being damaged on deployment

[rare trail]

yeah ig so

and if he did fight it doesnt really make sense for him to have barely moved from where his drop pod was

[peak escarp]

it's possible that that wasn't Bastion's first deployment

but with no evidence otherwise, it's more likely that it was

[golden oak]

Yeah, you don’t magically turn mature once you hit 20

[worthy cave]

Hello everyone

[worthy rose]

hi

[twilit patrol]

Greetings

[warped latch]

Do we know yet if the archives are coming back this year? :’)

They haven’t said they’re not coming back, right?

[worthy rose]

I reckon the Starwatch event that'll happen during this season is the closest we're gonna get to archives

[twilit patrol]

No

[leaden marten]

how come both new supports have the "im gonna not listen to family and forge my own path" character arc

what happened to heros getting driven insane in a black hole

[peak escarp]

family drama is more realistic

[pearl garden]

when reaper married widowmaker and adopted sombra was so emotional

[tepid sinew]

and when he cheated on widow to have gay intercourse with soldier

very big shock

[pearl garden]

that was so expected tbh

[wind portal]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[pearl garden]

bro its headcanon chilllllll

[wind portal]

headcanon isn't canon to the lore.

it's what people want to think is real for their characters

and plus, I can barely classify what that was as headcanon.

[peak escarp]

this is not the place for headcanons

or shitposting

[wind portal]

also Reaper is confirmed Straight

[pearl garden]

cap never seen him kiss a woman 🤷

p sure hes dead

[peak escarp]

he had a wife

[wind portal]

^

the only characters we know that are LGBT are Soldier, Tracer and Lifeweaver

[pearl garden]

soldier killed her obv

[peak escarp]

no

[pearl garden]

real cannon ik the devs

[wind portal]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[pearl garden]

listen mate when u come back w proof i dont know the devs then u can come talk

[wind portal]

That is just backwards logic

[peak escarp]

prove that you do

[wind portal]

I don't think I need to prove that you don't know the devs, you need to PROVE that you know the devs

[pearl garden]

cant i signed an nda

🤷🤷

[peak escarp]

guess you don't know them then

[pearl garden]

guess you dont know the real lore

[peak escarp]

since you can't prove it

[wind portal]

I don't think they're going to get mad over a lore reveal when almost no one is interested in OW lore

[pearl garden]

just wait until s5 when its released

along w story mode

then youll feel sorry

[wind portal]

Reaper's wife is still alive confirmed by Reaper himself

[pearl garden]

hes schizo

[wind portal]

Nothing in lore proves he's a schizo, unless you wanna show something from the story that proves he is

if you can't I have no reason to believe you.

[wise rivet]

Ok so I've watched his short, but is lifeweaver like part robot? Because I noticed he has like these robotic implants in his feet and legs

[wind portal]

nah he just has prosthetics I believe

[wise rivet]

ok, I was just really confused there

[peak escarp]

Vishkar gives its agents a prosthetic arm so they can manupulate hardlight

idk what is up with his feet though

[tepid sinew]

yeah mb i just saw the reaper+widow and sombra thing and thought it was funny

[fresh rock]

How did Reaper and Moira go from Blackwatch, which goes against Talon, to working for Talon?

[peak escarp]

Moira needed money and subjects for her research

Reaper needed Moira to keep him alive

[fresh rock]

So Reaper followed Moira? Mm, I see, thank you little man.

[peak escarp]

little... man?

[ivory garnet]

[rare trail]

I assume just like sojourn logic of robot parts good ig?

[peak escarp]

I guess

but Sojourn is confirmed to be a full body cyborg

[vocal marsh]

Maybe implants?

[peak escarp]

cybernetic implants do seem to be common in this universe

[split lagoon]

[stone lily]

I was watching ow cinematic a couple days ago. And I wonder if it's possible that the kid we saw in Mexico during the soldier cinematic could be Sombra

I think they look a like and the story match

[twilit patrol]

She’s not Sombra

[stone lily]

Ok thx

[ivory garnet]

The little girl we saw helped Zarya a bit to find Sombra

[golden oak]

Is there really not even a glimpse of roadhog’s face

[worthy rose]

I’m a spray you can see

a wanted poster of hog

[golden oak]

Where

[shut lake]

Hey

[worthy rose]

in a hog spray

you can kinda see his actual face

[twilit patrol]

You are penguin

[zealous basalt]

isn't that meant to be like a sketch based on what people said hog looked like

[torpid olive]

Okay question, that's in my some hottake category, but is anyone considering the (imo awfully written fanfic) code of violence story as canon or not?
Personally I painfully ignore it especially after I was waiting for this for years but hearing it was written by Chu (he left shortly before hand) I was already fearing the worst.

[grand wedge]

It is canon because it’s official.

And it wasn’t written by Michael Chu

[trail ridge]

Michael chu left too?

I did not know that

[grand wedge]

He left before Jeff

[viscid flame]

Gabriel got driven completely off the deep-end and into a permanent omnicidal rage after being in a party with Sombra for only a few hours

Truly this is the most crossover between lore and game play there is

[undone beacon]

z

[peak escarp]

Code of Violence is my third favourite short story

it added a lot of depth to Reyes' character

[ember hazel]

do we even know what happened in the fight between Jack Morrison and Gabriel Reyes

[peak escarp]

not yet

[ember hazel]

it looks like they're trying to be vague with it

[peak escarp]

they might be saving it for a future lore release

[ember hazel]

what medium do they use for those

[peak escarp]

comics, animated shorts, short stories, novels

all sorts

[ember hazel]

let's hope

I assumed it was some sort of explosion

because idk how else Reyes would get messed up like he did

[peak escarp]

what we do know is that there was a fight and an explosion

Soldier believes that the explosion was caused by Talon

the public believes that the explosion was caused by their fight

[ember hazel]

interesting

[peak escarp]

but the explosion left Reyes on deaths door - Moira had to superdose him with her wraith serum to save his life

we don't know what happened to Soldier, but he does have some pretty big scars across his face

[ember hazel]

Reaper has the potential to be a very good character, but Blizzard started him as nameless fodder in the early cinematics

glad they're giving him some depth

[peak escarp]

both of them have superhuman healing factors, so an explosion that would have killed an ordinary person might not have killed them

[ember hazel]

now reaper is extra dusty

it's really hard to gauge what his in universe power level is

[peak escarp]

yeah

[ember hazel]

like who he's equivalent to

[peak escarp]

he loses to Winston, but that's because Winston has Main Character Powers™️

when he fights anyone else, he seems pretty powerful

[ember hazel]

probably was expecting an execution and not a fight

[peak escarp]

Reaper is overconfident and likes to monologue

[ember hazel]

probably\

[fresh rock]

Er... no offense of course.

[peak escarp]

I am little, but not a man

[fresh rock]

No, you see, little man isn't used to identify your gender! I use little man a lot.

[wind portal]

In all fairness, Winston was struggling even when he is supposed to win

[peak escarp]

gotta make it dramatic

[fresh rock]

Do you guys have any predictions for any Overwatch PvE teams? We've seen two.

[peak escarp]

teams?

[idle finch]

do you mean what characters go on what missions with each other

[fresh rock]

Exactly that, sorry for wording it incorrectly.

[worthy rose]

I hope we get to play as the bad guys aswell in pve

[twilit patrol]

I think it won't be the case

[idle finch]

unless blizzard becomes ultra based and does some crazy thing like showing both pov of some fight I highly doubt we play as anyone but the main heros

that'd be cool tho

[worthy rose]

or if you can choose a side

like you choose the evil side or the good side

[idle finch]

that'd be cool

[twilit patrol]

Hmm

[idle finch]

or maybe you could do mini misions playing as like talon or something to advance the main story

[twilit patrol]

I'm not sure

[idle finch]

I just hope its not crazy linear like some other pve campaign games

[worthy rose]

I think it would be cool that you can choose what you say and do in the cutscenes

[peak escarp]

I don't think we'll get that

[twilit patrol]

I have doubts too

[idle finch]

it'd be cool to get something like that but I doubt it

[worthy rose]

ye

same

I’m pretty interested what the story will end up be

like how it ends

[twilit patrol]

Wow

It's complicated

[leaden reef]

don't think it will have a set ending

[peak escarp]

the most we'll get is different dialogue for different hero choices

[worthy rose]

I wonder if every hero will take part in pve

[peak escarp]

it's pretty much guaranteed to be a linear campaign

[twilit patrol]

Linear and complete

[leaden reef]

we all know how much time lucio will get

[worthy rose]

ye

he will be dead or prosumed dead in that demo type vid we saw

he probably isn’t dead tho

[peak escarp]

I think they'll try to include all the heroes eventually, but not in the initial story arc

[peak escarp]

that cutscene was a placeholder made for Blizzcon

Lucio won't die

[worthy rose]

I hope not

[leaden reef]

I doubt any hero dies

[peak escarp]

they won't kill off any heroes

[leaden reef]

Would be awkward to play as dead heroes in pvp

[worthy rose]

maybe characters that aren’t in game like max

[idle finch]

max dying would be hilarious

[twilit patrol]

Not even Reinhardt for example ?

[peak escarp]

no

NPCs are fair game

[twilit patrol]

Not really coherent i think

[leaden reef]

Rip Maximilien

[worthy rose]

I hope we will get him in game one day

[idle finch]

i doubt it

[leaden reef]

loved his cutscenes in the havana pve mission we got a few yrs ago

[wind portal]

Max is strictly a non-combatant

[twilit patrol]

I still believe that Rein will die

[twilit patrol]

No

[leaden reef]

was it storm rising?

[worthy rose]

would be cool to see more nonhuman characters

[peak escarp]

I expect Maximilien will have regrets starting a war, and will go to Overwatch for help/protection

[leaden reef]

Really want an interaction between him and ramattra

[worthy rose]

same

[twilit patrol]

Akande will try to kill him no ?

[worthy rose]

maybe he will try to kill zen and ram refuses

[wind portal]

Max is too valuable for him to kill him

[worthy rose]

would be cool to see

[idle finch]

I hope max doesn't die purely so I can peep his hair in high quality ow2 cutscenes

[peak escarp]

we've seen what happens to people who try to leave Talon

[worthy rose]

ye

only bap got away with it

kinda

[wind portal]

Bap knew talon enough to escape it

[leaden reef]

Bap is still being hunted he hasn't fully gotten away with it

[peak escarp]

they're still going after him

[worthy rose]

that’s why I said kinda

[leaden reef]

sombra seems to know where he is but didn't tell talon though

[wind portal]

Sombra knows where everyone is

but Sombra just doesn't care about talon

[worthy rose]

sombra will backstap talon maybe

[idle finch]

sombra knows where everyone and their grandparents are

[leaden reef]

true

[worthy rose]

and knows everyone’s search history

[wind portal]

I don't think Sombra would leave Talon tbh, they're giving her a good deal

[worthy rose]

Sombruh

maybe soilder and Ana will rejoin overwatch

[twilit patrol]

Hmm

[wind portal]

Soldier and Ana won't rejoin overwatch

[twilit patrol]

NO.

[idle finch]

soldier is NOT rejoining

[twilit patrol]

They decline the recall

[idle finch]

ana wont either

[worthy rose]

I can see Ana joining maybe

[leaden reef]

I thought ana left cass to find the next ow members saying her time had passed

[wind portal]

Soldier dislikes current overwatch and Ana is 'retired'

[twilit patrol]

No she's decline too

[worthy rose]

true

[twilit patrol]

Same for Torb

He's ''retired''

[worthy rose]

they got new members like bap and mei

[idle finch]

need rein to retire also

sick of this dude

[leaden reef]

yeah the comics showed cass going from place to place recruiting zarya pharah bap and dva

[wind portal]

Pharah is kind of the replacement for Ana anyway

[twilit patrol]

No he don't need

[worthy rose]

can see overwatch recruiting bastion

[twilit patrol]

Yes

[worthy rose]

rein will always be their shield

[twilit patrol]

Bastion will probably join Overwatch

[leaden reef]

Hanzo has done literally nothing since genji's confrontation wonder what happens with him in lore

[worthy rose]

no matter what

[idle finch]

bastion has crazy ptsd I doubt he joins a group built to fight people

[worthy rose]

I mean

maybe torb will convince him joining it

it will be weird for him to fight omnics

since he is one

[wind portal]

Bastion's AI got overhauled by Torb

[weary raptor]

wife leaver lore

[twilit patrol]

Lifeweaver*

[weary raptor]

wife leaver

[worthy rose]

he just came out we don’t know that much

[twilit patrol]

...

[peak escarp]

Torbjorn hasn't done anyting to Bastion's AI

he's not a programmer

[weary raptor]

hard work pays off

[idle finch]

average teenager when they get to summer camp

[worthy rose]

he only fixed him

ok

[peak escarp]

we've already seen that Bastion will join Overwatch

in the storyboards shown in 2021

[wind portal]

Didn't Bastion already join OW?

[worthy rose]

why is zarya there lol

[twilit patrol]

I forget this scene

[peak escarp]

because Zarya also joined Overwatch

[wind portal]

Cass recruited her I believe

[worthy rose]

hmmm dint know that thx

[twilit patrol]

Yes cass recruited her

[wind portal]

Cass doing gods work fr

[twilit patrol]

He also recruited Baptiste, Pharah and D.va.

[peak escarp]

Winston, Mei, Brigitte, D.Va, Pharah, Tracer, Zarya, Lucio, Genji, Baptiste, Mercy, Echo, Reinhardt and Cassidy

[worthy rose]

cass out here recruiting everyone

[peak escarp]

these seem to be the main heroes of Overwatch

[wind portal]

Ngl I almost wanted D.va to not join OW

[peak escarp]

plus Sojourn and Bastion

[twilit patrol]

Cassidy is so badass

[leaden reef]

Did sojourn accept the recall?

[worthy rose]

ye

[wind portal]

She's rejoining yes

[peak escarp]

no but we see her join them

[twilit patrol]

I think it's the case yes

[leaden reef]

ah ok

[twilit patrol]

Oh ok