#lore-discussion

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dense nebula
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Idk the official name of the language spoken in Thailand

analog niche
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Or McCloud

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That would have been dope

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What a hottie

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Not this e-boy they think is “cute” like mercy

limpid agate
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Im gonna wait for the trailer

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But the first reaction is underwhelming.

trail ridge
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As

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Aw

rare trail
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i think its bc you dont have reg

trail ridge
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Yeah

limpid agate
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He's tall for a support

trail ridge
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On god

limpid agate
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Huge hitbox is not what you want

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Well, whatever. Origin Short should be tomorrow

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As should gameplay

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It would have been nice if we had some leadup to this, instead of just having some random stranger we've never seen before announced with no fanfare.

gray kayak
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Assuming the ability leaks are real then he should likely be played at distance, maybe his hit box won't be an issue

limpid agate
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Of course they're real.

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The article also had pictures of the character

gray kayak
limpid agate
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Before they were announced

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I cant be mad at the leak.

gray kayak
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I don't treat any leaks as real until officially sourced. But yeah, probably.

limpid agate
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Its hard to be mad at that when they just give radio silence for weeks

gray kayak
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I'm not upset with the leak, I'm disappointed in the OW team

limpid agate
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100%

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I dont like my first impression of the hero, but that's besides the point

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Even if it was like, Analyst Nguyen or Sanjay or some other character I am really looking forward to

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This would have been a disappointing just sudden drop

peak escarp
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I guess whoever is in charge of the social media has changed since OW1, and they just not good at it

ivory garnet
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are we sure its a leak?

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because twitter says otherwise

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and im very disappointed

willow carbon
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ow staff isnt good at anything

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besides making fire cinematics

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theyve done nothing w the lore

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hopefully we get some fire lroe out of pve

peak escarp
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they've done plenty with the lore

ivory garnet
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^^^

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their addition to lore has been fine

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their addition to the game and build ups have not been fine

rare sundial
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Is this new “life weaver” guy Vishkar related?

ivory garnet
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mhm

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a former asset or current

grim niche
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he looks amazing

trail ridge
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Healing Flower (LMB, Weapon 1): Charges a burst of healing energy. Heals the target when the key is released.
Spike Volley (LMB, Weapon 2): Throws multiple spikes quickly. Ammo: 60 pcs.
Petal Platform (RMB): Throws a platform that lifts up anyone who steps on it. The platform exists for a while, and then disappears (it has 400 hp and can be destroyed).
Revitalizing Dash (Shift): Dash forward and heal yourself slightlyLife Grasp (E): Pulls an ally towards you (the ally is shielded while flying)
Tree of Life (Ultimate): Grows a tree that instantly heals nearby allies and continues to heal them for as long as it exists. A tree can block passages.
Parting Gift (Passive): Upon death, drops a gift that heals anyone who picks it up (ally or enemy)

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This is crazy

rare trail
rare sundial
trail ridge
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Yup

rare sundial
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Noice

ivory garnet
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if thats his real abilities, its basically just another zen

rare sundial
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Except it’s a tree

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Well..

trail ridge
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I like the pink

ivory garnet
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just not a fan of him at all rn

rare sundial
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I’ll try to get used to him

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When will we get sojourn cinematic

ivory garnet
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most likely when PvE releases

trail ridge
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Yeah

rare sundial
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Damn..

trail ridge
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Which could release on the ow anniversary

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Which is like later this year

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Which is a long time

rare sundial
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I remember the anniversary being during the summer

trail ridge
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💀

rare sundial
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Wasn’t it during the summer?

peak escarp
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May 24

rare sundial
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Close enough

trail ridge
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Oh

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I thought it was around uhh October

rare sundial
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October is ow2 release

trail ridge
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I started playing since ow2 so I didn’t know

rare sundial
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Speaking of that how will ow anniversary event go?

peak escarp
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we don't know yet

trail ridge
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Could be an entire season

rare sundial
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Will we be celebrating ow1 or ow2?

peak escarp
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we'll find out next season

rare sundial
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Guess so

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I would say lifeweaver is most likely former vishkar since his heal is called bio-light

rare trail
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weird this leak got deleted

peak escarp
rare trail
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As fellow alumni of the Vishkar Architect Academy, Lifeweaver’s connection to Symmetra in Overwatch 2’s lore is reflected in the gameplay as much as it is in voice lines. “They’re both light architects, so they can both spawn constructs,” teases Thammawan.

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from the deleted leak

merry mason
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where are people getting that he's pansexual

rare trail
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the leak said he was

warped latch
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look at him

merry mason
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it did?

limpid agate
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Yes

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My first thought was "people are gonna say he's gay just because he's flamboyant and pink"

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And it turns out... he is

peak escarp
ivory garnet
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thats our 3rd lgbtq playable character right?

rare trail
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i think so

limpid agate
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Correct

willow carbon
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whos the second

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besides tracer

rare trail
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soldier

limpid agate
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Soldier

ivory garnet
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Soldier

merry mason
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soldier

warped latch
rare trail
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soldier and tracer are gay and lifeweaver is pan

willow carbon
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ohhhh i h ad no idea

rare trail
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i hope they change lifeweavers name

willow carbon
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thought he and ana had a little sumn sumn goin on

limpid agate
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They wont

trail ridge
limpid agate
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She had a husband, Sam

trail ridge
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Unfortunate

willow carbon
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keyword had

trail ridge
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Yikes

ivory garnet
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you can keep that with yourself then ig, and “had” because he thinks she is dead

willow carbon
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thought he was the dead one

analog niche
willow carbon
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next ur gonna tell me the genji mercy ship is dead

analog niche
ivory garnet
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genji x mercy is most likely canon, just not confirmed

analog niche
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^

ivory garnet
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thats the only playable character ship there is to date with actual evidence

willow carbon
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you forgot hammond and the kitsune fox lol

trail ridge
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What

analog niche
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I honestly thought they would have made rein gay before soldier 💀

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So dumb

peak escarp
willow carbon
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whos the family reapers watching in the christmas comic from a while ago

rare sundial
willow carbon
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his daughter or his wife

analog niche
ivory garnet
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his ex wife, her husband, and his child

analog niche
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Probably his daughter I think

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Since reaper would be old now

ivory garnet
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its his son, ex wife, and her new husband

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he is 58

rare trail
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is it reapers child or the new husbands child?

ivory garnet
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in the events of ow1

analog niche
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Dang

ivory garnet
analog niche
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That’s older than my dad

peak escarp
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Reyes only became Reaper 5 years ago

ivory garnet
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his kid looks to be 11

peak escarp
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in the short story, his son was 6

ivory garnet
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or 9

peak escarp
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so the boy being 11-13 makes sense

ivory garnet
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yeah

peak escarp
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and the focus is more on the woman, so it's unlikely to be his son grown up

analog niche
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Guys it’s not his kid, he’s just being a schizo

willow carbon
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whats the deal w ashe and cassidy

ivory garnet
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old friends

analog niche
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Fr though that could be interesting, if he just looked at a family and wishes he could have had that

ivory garnet
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Ashe was the founder of the deadlock gang, and Cass was the co-founder

analog niche
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But that makes not as much sense so

peak escarp
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we were already told that it wasn't some random family

analog niche
peak escarp
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McCree was his outlaw name

analog niche
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McF-ckleberry

merry mason
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no trolling in the lore channel

ivory garnet
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anyways, is this new guy the “asset” Symm’s up coming short story is about?

merry mason
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more like th e"old friend"

willow carbon
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any ideas on when new cinematic is

ivory garnet
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new origin story and gameplay trailer is tmr most likely

willow carbon
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any leaks?

peak escarp
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the founders of the Deadlock Gang were Ashe, Cassidy, Bob, Frankie and Bez

willow carbon
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any other evil omnics they could add to the game that we know by name? not maximillion

ivory garnet
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we wont get a new cinematic until PvE release, just from a hunch

analog niche
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I would so much rather they made rein gay instead of soldier

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I always kinda thought he was, and still could be I guess, but soldier feels so weird it makes no sense

ivory garnet
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it probably wouldve been the same deal with soldier. He probably wouldve left his love life for war

peak escarp
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does it matter?

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he never showed any interest in women

analog niche
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So probably not developing any meaningful relationships there

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And just having fun drinking beer with guys

ivory garnet
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Reinhardt is a very caring person, he’d fight for the world anytime lol

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relationships would have nothing to do with it

peak escarp
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he even changed an Eivel Kineval quote from "chicks dig scars" to "scars look good"

analog niche
limpid agate
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Like

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We don't know Nameless by name, because they're nameless

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But they go by the title Nameless

analog niche
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But I feel like Reinhardt would do what soldier did but not have to leave them because of their duty

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I think he could balance them fairly well

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Given his character, who like you said is much more caring

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It seems much harder for soldier 76 to have close relationships at all

merry mason
ivory garnet
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1 is dead, the other one isn’t necessarily a fighter

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Vishkar

rare trail
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i dont think nameless is evil

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er ig she is pro terrorism

peak escarp
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Lifeweaver is (former?) Vishkar

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he's an architech like Symmetra

limpid agate
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So

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Nameless

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Nameless is also the one given the most focus

peak escarp
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there is Kace, but he's a nobody

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Lifeweaver is Thai

ivory garnet
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we got that map YEARS back, it was just to have more locations

merry mason
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I think the thai map was made long before they even thought of mr. weaver

peak escarp
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the map is unrelated to him though

ivory garnet
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and it was just a CTF map

peak escarp
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some maps have no connection to any heroes, like Hollywood, Ilios and Lijiang

ivory garnet
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it was just to show more locations and representation probably

willow carbon
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alright here me out

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im 100% on this

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zenyatta ram ship

ivory garnet
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they’re sworn brothers

rare trail
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they havent seen eachother in years

peak escarp
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they see each other as brothers

rare trail
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and zenyatta is probably against the terrorism

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i thought it was brothers in the religious sense

peak escarp
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no

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like family

merry mason
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both

leaden oxide
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New heros lore finna be (He was rejected by his crush, so he became zesty and zesty

willow carbon
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u know whaty they say

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siblings by chance

merry mason
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hold up now

ivory garnet
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!!movingon

twilit nacelleBOT
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Moving swiftly onwards

willow carbon
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!remindme1year zen and ram will be canon

past copper
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Welp. Not the first time things got leaked early

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It happened with Kiriko’s short after all

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Seems leaks just slip out easier now and I’m not sure if that’s good or bad

worthy rose
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It's bad for me, I hate leaks

ivory garnet
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its whatever, the SM team just needs to build up the new characters more

peak escarp
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the lack of proper teasers was disappointing

ivory garnet
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yeah, all we got was a flower emoji 3 hours prior

peak escarp
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I miss those

ivory garnet
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social media team was definitely changed I think

merry mason
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hope they learn from their mistakes

limpid agate
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It would have been less underwhelming if we had any build up

warm arrow
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So did they announce him today because of the leak then?

limpid agate
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Probably.

merry mason
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i think so

ivory garnet
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its around the time we get the hero, but probably yeah

limpid agate
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I cant be mad at leaks for things like that happening.

warm arrow
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I was expecting the announcement tomorrow, a week before.

limpid agate
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Blizzard's marketing is embarassing

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We used to get shit like

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!!loretweets

twilit nacelleBOT
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Hero Teasers:
Zarya: https://bit.ly/2LQVQbX
McCree: https://bit.ly/2XgY6Pi
Soldier 1: https://bit.ly/2XdfGUl
Soldier 2: https://bit.ly/2Tr2TMR
Junkers 1: https://bit.ly/36lCrcW
Junkers 2: https://bit.ly/36hFdj5
Ana: https://bit.ly/3cRvRgx
Sombra: https://bit.ly/2LHZIw7
Orisa 1: https://bit.ly/2ANoCbq
Orisa 2: https://bit.ly/2WOJE1S
Brigitte 1: https://bit.ly/3cQok1E
Brigitte 2: https://bit.ly/3bOU1af
Brigitte 3: https://bit.ly/36hPmfH
Echo 1: https://bit.ly/3bR3JbY
Echo 2: https://bit.ly/3e8msl9
Echo 3: https://bit.ly/2zgjM66
Cassidy: https://bit.ly/3KrcFa4

Map Teasers:
Gibraltar: https://bit.ly/2Xix8Xh
Numbani: https://bit.ly/2WN0ZYY
Volskaya: https://bit.ly/2WLQvcq
Hollywood: https://bit.ly/2WNMxzP

Archives Logs:
Retribution Reyes: https://bit.ly/2WNN0lz
Retribution McCree: https://bit.ly/2WP3U3y
Retribution Genji: https://bit.ly/2Triyf5
Retribution Moira: https://bit.ly/2ykYO5F
Storm Rising Sojourn: https://bit.ly/2ToIqbn
Storm Rising Max: https://bit.ly/36fjxUY

limpid agate
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These

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And even if we didnt, we would still get things like reminders characters exist in the months leading up to their debut

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Or just general build up to spawn speculation

ivory garnet
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the new map didnt even have anything to work with iirc

limpid agate
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It did have stuff to work with

peak escarp
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last teaser tweet was March 18, 2020 - Echo's third teaser

limpid agate
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The Peru posters were handled the same way map teasers were handled in OW1

ivory garnet
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yeah I remembered the Peru poster

limpid agate
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That could probably be the season 6 hero

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But who knows

ivory garnet
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theres also the Samoan poster that just toys with us abt Mauga

limpid agate
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Someone in the chain here is just... Incapable of, or doesnt want to, make teasers anymore.

ivory garnet
limpid agate
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Junkerqueen didnt get any, but she got her short and quite a bit of time before she became playable to hype up a beta and dive into her. Plus she was a top requested hero

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Kiriko did have her first teaser years ago, and then some not-so-subtle non lore teasers in the months leading up to her debut

ivory garnet
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and we have seen her in Ball’s origin story and Roadhog and Junkrat’s media (JQ)

limpid agate
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Ramattra was also a popular request. Didnt have as much build up but he had an entire month of dedicated weekly drops about his story and design

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But no teasers like the old days

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Now this character we've never met before just... Spawns out of nowhere. 0 teasers. 0 suggestion they existed. Cant even stretch to the fursthest stretch on any map that exists that this was a hero

worthy rose
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who the new hero in lore

limpid agate
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Someone that didnt exist until 2 hours ago

grim pewter
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i KNEW IT

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IT WAS A RANDOM CHARACTER

worthy rose
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Lmaoo

grim pewter
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I FUCKING CALLED IT

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HAHAHAHAHAHHA YES

worthy rose
limpid agate
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Not really something to be excited about

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Its like popping off that the lotto ticket you bought was a losing ticket

ivory garnet
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wouldnt have cared if it was an entirely new character as long as he had proper build up, and not just a flower emoji 3 hrs prior

limpid agate
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Same

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Like

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Baptiste

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Baptiste had great buildup

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Brand new character out of nowhere, which was annoying at the time

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But he had build up

warm arrow
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Yea it’s lazy marketing but devs I think were saying he has abilities that haven’t been seen in the game yet so I’m kinda excited

ivory garnet
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but, we’ll see what his lore has to offer other than just (former?) Vishkar

ivory garnet
peak escarp
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this is comparable to Ashe

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but at least she got a short

twilit patrol
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One thing i was afraid of was that we would have a hero with fantasy like Kiriko instead of a hero who has technology to heal. Finally i think we have a very interesting hero in lore and gameplay. I'm very curious to see the next.

ivory garnet
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thing Ive noticed from what we have seen, is they only uses a glove or hand for his “bio-light”

wise tulip
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really disappointed it’s just some random new character out of left field

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i feel like his design is a little over the top

ivory garnet
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like i just said

wouldnt have cared if it was an entirely new character as long as he had proper build up, and not just a flower emoji 3 hrs prior

wise tulip
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yeah

ivory garnet
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but its whatevee

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nothing we can do

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just gotta hope his lore is somewhat good

wise tulip
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weird how junkrat is still the youngest male hero

ivory garnet
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this new guy may be younger

wise tulip
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he looks genji/hanzo age but with makeup

ivory garnet
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symm is 28 in ow1 events, so we’ll see

wise tulip
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honestly i just want a mellow dude, nothing over the top

worn island
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Im sure this has been asked plenty of times already

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but im pretty sure we didnt know this guy did we?

wise tulip
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nope

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came out of nowhere

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no buildup

worn island
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Im wondering if he was like way in the background in that sym comic

wise tulip
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nah he’d stand out way too much

ivory garnet
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he’s most likely the asset the description of Symm’s up coming short story is talking abt

peak escarp
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no but he'll be in her upcoming short story

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Mikucio too fast for me

ivory garnet
worthy rose
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Not the fastest gun in the new west

wise tulip
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i hope his voice isn’t… obnoxious

peak escarp
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typing on mobile is slow

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I'm at work 😉

wise tulip
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if he’s like

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HIII SISTERSSS

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i am going to be in pain

peak escarp
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god I hope not

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we don't need queer stereotypes

wise tulip
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agreed

worthy rose
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What if he has an exaggerated charming voice lol

wise tulip
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sylvando from dragon quest was very flamboyant but i honestly liked his character a lot

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i just don’t think they could make that kind of thing work here

ivory garnet
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he’ll probably have a charming voice

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i’d expect Hanzo to also say “good looks are not enough” when Hanzo kills him

peak escarp
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definitely

wise tulip
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i think lucio has the most charisma out of all of the characters

peak escarp
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Ramattra and Doomfist are pretty high up for charisma

wise tulip
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i mean like

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positive energy

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ramattra and doomfist have amazing voices too though

past copper
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Hate to say it, but the teams in charge of characters and lore are just spouting out random heroes now

ivory garnet
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its the social media team, not lore team

past copper
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Well, I mean this guy just looks so random

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Kiriko looks like an anime character, but this man looks like he just crossed over from Fortnite

worthy rose
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I don't think Kiriko looks anime at all. The most I would call anime are the red marks she has below her eyes but that's a stretch

past copper
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Whatever. I stand by my statement

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Especially the part bout him looking like he belongs more on Fortnite instead of Overwatch

worthy rose
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His design is okay in my opinion. He does look like a Fortnite skin imo, but I don't care. All that matters to me is how they play and how they interact with the game

past copper
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Also, I don’t think he’s large

worthy rose
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He's likely just in the foreground in that image

past copper
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I think Sym is just standing farther back

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Bc I highly doubt we’d get a Reinhardt sized support hero

worthy rose
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I don't think they should try their hands with a tanky support after Brig 1.0

peak escarp
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you might see it as making up random heroes
I see it as adding to the world

worthy rose
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I don't mind adding random heroes at all

past copper
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Not wrong to add more heroes

worthy rose
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Not every new hero has to be this obscure face we saw in the back of a comic 3 years ago or sum

peak escarp
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at least he has ties to Symmetra and will help develop her lore

past copper
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But the guy’s design seems a little over the top

peak escarp
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I think it's fine

worthy rose
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I like that we get more flamboyant designs honestly

past copper
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Idk. Maybe see what he’s doing before judging

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Every hero is doing something right now

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But if he is apart of Vishkar, that begs the question

ivory garnet
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former Vishkar most likely

past copper
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Is he aware of who Sanjay works for or is he apart of it

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I mean, I don’t see him as a criminal, but looks can be deceiving

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Heck, Sym still believes she’s working for a company that does no wrong

peak escarp
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we'll have to wait and see

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maybe he's former Vishkar because he saw how corrupt they got

past copper
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It depends. Seems he’s based in India in the temple Zenyatta is at

limpid agate
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Thats Ayutthaya

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Wrong country

peak escarp
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the short story description says Symmetra travels abroad to find him

past copper
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We’ll see. I think right now we’re all trying to swallow this unprecedented leak

peak escarp
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Corinne Duyvis and Sangu Mandanna trace Symmetra’s travels abroad to retrieve a Vishkar asset . . . and an old friend.

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not really unprecedented

limpid agate
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Unprecedented?

peak escarp
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we've had leaks before

past copper
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Yeah. But it seems he was just revealed either too early or someone just couldn’t wait outta excitement

ivory garnet
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just no build up

past copper
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All I can say is, as long as he’s a good support pick, I’m happy

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Frankly, they should focus on adding more supports and tanks instead of dps overall

worthy rose
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Luckily that's what they're doing

past copper
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Tho, once the tank drops next, will it stay that way?

worthy rose
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I expect to get a dps after the s8 tank

past copper
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Same

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But who knows. Season 8 is a long way from now

worthy rose
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That's true

past copper
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Frankly, probably won’t see S8 til close to next year

ivory garnet
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s8 is the last season of this year

peak escarp
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s6 is another support

past copper
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Yea well I just hope the story mode is out before then

peak escarp
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s8 isnt confirmed to be a tank, but that's most likely

past copper
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We’ll see. It just seems they should put less focus on damaging heroes

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And more on tanks and supports since matches can’t be won without them

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Especially not story missions either

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As anyone who’s played Archives knows

peak escarp
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they did say that they won't completely ignore damage heroes

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so it won't ever be exactly even

ivory garnet
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they wanted to balance the numbers iirc

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or somewhat give more choices

past copper
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I mean, a balance to think on is that Bastion could’ve been a tank

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Given how much of a threat Bastion can pose against tanks

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Could easily have been a tank too. Like Doom

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But who knows. Not like heroes are stuck in the same roles forever

peak escarp
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the roles will never be equal

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but anyway, this is getting off topic

past copper
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True

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Regardless, I need to see this new hero’s backstory, see his kit, and play him before I can give an opinion

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Could be a key to the story

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I do wonder this though. What could his primary fire be if all his abilities are unique

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Honestly, kinda hoping for bio-light blasts from his hand

worthy rose
peak escarp
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Lifeweaver is the old friend

past copper
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Hmm. This just came to me

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Given Vishkar’s background, what if Lifeweaver is the one or was related to the one who created the hardlight tech Vishkar uses?

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And stole from someone?

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Might not be much of a stretch given they stole tech from Lució’s father

ivory garnet
#

he uses Bio-Light

#

most likely hard light + nature or something

#

due to his abilities being floral based

merry mason
#

I hope this is an opportunity to learn more about how hardlight actually works

peak escarp
past copper
#

Not really

#

Lucio stole back the tech

#

This guy possibly is behind Vishkar’s hardlight tech

#

But he didn’t steal it. Rather uses it for good like it was meant

#

But that’s just a guess

novel rapids
#

bro is the new charatcher from the lore or is he new?

rare trail
#

new

#

connection to sym

novel rapids
#

alright

lime flax
#

idk I think he has connections to Ayutthaya

#

the renovated part of the map has a lot of similar design motifs to him

#

he could be related to the archeologist faction thats popped up in ilios and petra

ivory garnet
#

Ayutthaya was made all the way back in 2018

#

it has nothing to do with him

lime flax
#

how is the release date of the map relevant

#

numbani was a launch map and we got orisa a year later

#

same with a lot of heroes and maps

#

whats the point youre trying to make?

#

also we have 0 lore on the guy how do we know hes not related to them?

peak escarp
#

we can't say whether it is or not at this point

#

not enough info

stable stump
#

is lifewaver backsotry known yet

golden oak
#

Nope

#

He’s from Vishkar most likely tho

past copper
#

Ima just put this out there

#

Who expects one of his skins to be Flower Power? Just me?

golden oak
#

?

#

Can you elaborate

past copper
#

I mean because I think it would be hard for the devs to not give him a hippie skin

#

Called Flower Power

analog niche
#

Stupid

golden oak
#

Oh

analog niche
#

This is ow2

#

The time for left nipples is over

#

They are ashamed of their past

past copper
#

What the hell are you talking about

analog niche
past copper
#

What does that have to do with anything?

#

That’s just shitposting

analog niche
#

No?

#

Ohhhhhh

#

I just read that wrong originally

#

You said hippie

#

I’m so sorry

#

I thought you said nipple 🤦‍♂️

#

Please ignore

#

He probably will tbh

#

Have a hippie skin

past copper
#

Anyway… wouldn’t be a surprise to see him get a hippie skin

golden oak
#

Btw I just noticed his chest is exposed

past copper
#

If Baptiste can get a disco skin, you know it’s not an impossible thought

analog niche
#

I’m very confused how every one else can easily tell he’s related to Symmetra from his design

#

I feel like I’m the only one who doesn’t see the connection

past copper
#

They have the same tech

#

Look at his arm

golden oak
#

He’s using same light technology

analog niche
#

Omg I’m dumb

#

I see it now

golden oak
#

Which vishkar is known for

analog niche
#

Yeah, everyone kept saying the arm

golden oak
#

So he most likely knows symmetra

analog niche
#

But I just only assumed it’s a prosthetic like literally everyone in overwatch

#

I just now saw how it specifically is like symmetra’s

past copper
#

Seems he was another special child taken in by Vishkar and augmented with their tech

analog niche
#

Look at his left hand

#

There’s a pattern on his palm I just noticed

#

Maybe that one is augmented in some way too?

haughty viper
#

Do yall think life weaver works for vishkar

#

nvm yall caught on already

sage path
#

So uh....

#

Reaper x soldier canon

#

Right?

light adder
#

does that new character have any lore

peak escarp
#

Reaper had a wife

peak escarp
iron plume
dreamy epoch
#

okay

#

I kno

#

I know now EXACTLY what you mean about being grounded in science fiction

#

I take it back kiriko should not have "magic"

#

biolight seems to be similar to symettra's obviously so that's neato

peak escarp
#

this is the lore channel

hot wing
#

how will the new hero fit in the lore

ivory garnet
#

Former asset of Vishkar, a friend of Symm

#

we’ll get their origin soon, and they’re most likely apart of Symm’s upcoming short story

keen summit
chilly crest
#

🗿

keen summit
#

He's also the game's first openly pansexual character, which will surely create some fun pre-match conversations between the existing heroes.

Please dont tell me he'll be hitting on everyone

rain shoal
#

is it true that he's the first pansexual hero?

keen summit
summer tulip
#

What the fuck is a pansexual

twilit patrol
summer tulip
#

What problem?

#

I dont kniw what it means

keen summit
#

it just means ur attracted to all genders

#

thats all

#

the fact they say itll cause interactions makes me think he might flirt with everyone

worthy rose
#

he tryna be baptiste😭

manic sentinel
#

Regardless, the dev said that ‘it would be hard for anyone to say the next hero isn’t cute’

Is he dumb?

keen summit
manic sentinel
#

Blizzard devs spending a year to come out with a new hero (6 months we’re spent on discussing what sexuality they should be)

#

Who knows, maybe the next hero will be trans

keen summit
manic sentinel
#

the name is shite too

keen summit
#

the name is really bad

manic sentinel
#

Dude can heal the enemy when he dies

keen summit
manic sentinel
#

Lmao

keen summit
#

He'll probs be a foil for sanjay cuz he destroys while life beaver wants to protecc nature

torpid whale
boreal solstice
#

Woh

golden oak
keen summit
golden oak
#

What article

keen summit
#

The one which was deleted cuz it was released early

golden oak
#

Oh

sage path
#

I hope he hits on winston

sharp raven
#

i hope he rizzes up everyone

analog niche
#

L character

#

I wanted McCloud

rare trail
#

i dont love lifeweaver

#

sym lore could be cool though

analog niche
#

Dumb name btw

rare trail
#

yeah

analog niche
#

^

#

I love sym lore

#

I rock that skin from her comic nonstop

twilit patrol
#

Who's that ''McCloud''

analog niche
#

That’s what her redesign for ow2 should have been

analog niche
twilit patrol
#

Oh sorry

analog niche
#

He’s also in a painting on one of the new maps

#

No no you’re good!

keen summit
analog niche
#

I know I just don’t remember

analog niche
#

It has a picture and location of it here

safe oriole
#

I think getting new lore for sym is awesome but we’ve kind of circled back to the problem with kiriko where she was simply made to be a new hero and they shoved her into the lore and called it a day. I want a person we know already or have seen, like sojourn

analog niche
#

I think sojourn will when pve comes out (new take, I know)

safe oriole
#

We’ve known about sojourn since the release of the first game

#

I’m saying I want more characters like her, ones we know fit into the lore and have a good background

analog niche
#

Oh ok

#

I agree

#

Like I would rather this new hero have been Sanjay for example

twilit patrol
#

Are you talking about the older generation ?

#

Those who were there 30 years ago ?

analog niche
#

It doesn’t have to be but they are included in that definition

safe oriole
#

McCloud would’ve made sense as he has lore and a place within the story, I feel like blizzard is attempting to shove too many new characters in to fill holes in empty plot lines where it’s not needed

analog niche
#

Like what? I only ask bc I just can’t think of any

#

Genuinely curious

safe oriole
#

Kiriko was never meant to exist

#

She’s so forced into shimada lore and it’s very obvious

analog niche
#

^

#

That’s what I thought you’d say

#

Her age is a clear example of that

#

It doesn’t make sense

keen summit
analog niche
#

I haven’t seen it myself in game actually

#

I have to admit

keen summit
#

its not that

#

i know its ingame

#

its more that being ingame doesnt say much

safe oriole
#

Like how everyone thought it was gonna be overlord lmao

keen summit
#

we've had for years this other character who was also concept art

keen summit
safe oriole
#

Exactly

keen summit
#

not "childhood friends with the shimadas!"

safe oriole
#

Yesyes I agree

keen summit
#

im working on making hashimoto leader a hero too so i care lots bout thematic story writing

#

kiriko even doesnt fill anything there

#

hanzo is tradition, genji is tradition mixed with future and kiriko, is again tradition mixed with future

safe oriole
#

She feels like a dead limb within the lore and she’s obnoxious on top of that

analog niche
#

I’ve hear the name

keen summit
#

like if they just didnt add kiriko and added hashimoto leader who will probs be based on future you'd have hanzo, tradition. genji, balance. and hashimoto leader being future

keen summit
analog niche
#

Right I remember now

#

That’d be awesome

#

I don’t know if they’d do that though

safe oriole
#

They’ve confirmed they won’t be doing anymore meka squad heroes

keen summit
#

i disagree tbh meka squad really isnt interesting and this is coming from an engineer

keen summit
analog niche
#

Makes sense

keen summit
#

its not

#

its just that they dont have plans for any

#

but would like to make one eventually. so not till after s8 atleast and after that its fair game

#

they said that back in june, hero planning takes very long

analog niche
#

Knowing blizzard, they would just introduce a new rival faction to the meka squad that’s trying to steal their thunder and “does what they do but better” and make the hero one of them, like their Dva basically

#

As opposed to just making one of the current meka squad mates a hero

keen summit
safe oriole
#

I’ve thought they’ve flat out said dva was too difficult to make another

analog niche
#

Right?

keen summit
analog niche
#

I believe that though, I’ve heard about how much of a nightmare Dva is

keen summit
#

if its difficult they also can just make em not eject to be different and rama exists who also was difficult

#

its just that theyre not really that interesting mostly. getting another gamer in a mech really isnt something i want

analog niche
#

skill issue

#

gg

safe oriole
#

Me neither tbh

#

I already hate dvas voice lines I couldn’t imagine the interactions 😭

peak escarp
#

what lore?

safe oriole
#

I thought he had some story

peak escarp
#

nope

#

he was one of the basic concepts made up when pitching the game internally

safe oriole
#

Ahh gotcha that’s probably what I’m thinking of then, my bad

peak escarp
#

bottom right

safe oriole
#

I think it would still be really neat to get some of the leftover concepts as heroes

peak escarp
#

he's just a Highlander knockoff

worthy rose
peak escarp
#

she's also an idea stolen from a movie

#

a lot of these characters are ideas borrowed from other places

analog niche
peak escarp
#

one of his abilities is "only one"

analog niche
#

He’s cool asf

#

And much more “cute” by blizzard’s definition

#

Like look at that hunk

peak escarp
#

no

analog niche
#

Yes

#

He could have really cool lore

#

And it’s a region not yet represented by a hero yet

peak escarp
#

...you mean Europe?

#

we have enough European heroes

analog niche
#

I mean that part of Europe?

#

Europe isn’t some monolithic region

limpid agate
#

Scotland

peak escarp
#

we have an English and an Irish hero

#

close enough

limpid agate
#

We have 0 heroes from south east asia

analog niche
#

We didn’t need sojourn, Canadians and Americans are close enough

peak escarp
#

sure

analog niche
#

Same with mercy and rein

#

Basically the same

#

Sure

peak escarp
#

we could have had someone from South America instead

#

or Africa, or Southeast Asia, or Oceania

analog niche
#

I agree, I think that’s a more underrepresented region among the roster

peak escarp
#

or some other underrepresented region

analog niche
#

I was just saying a Scottish hero would be nice

#

I personally would love an oceanic hero

#

They would be very cool

limpid agate
#

Mauga

twilit patrol
analog niche
#

I’m still way happier we got Ramattra

#

Probably my favorite character in overwatch

#

Besides Doomfist and Rein

twilit patrol
analog niche
#

Amazing voice lines

#

Very interesting backstory where he’s a bad guy but not necessarily bad guy

#

And perfect design

twilit patrol
#

I feel like i'm hearing Aatrox with his voicelines and his voice

analog niche
#

Like his default skin is better than most of his other skins

analog niche
#

Aren’t they the same?

#

I think I heard that

twilit patrol
#

Ramattra and Aatrox have the same VA yes

analog niche
#

That’s so cool

#

He also has really funny ones too, like with wrecking ball

twilit patrol
#

And besides, the voice lines are very similar.

#

In their lore, they both suffered.

wind portal
twilit patrol
wind portal
#

I mean aatrox's goals are very different than ram's lol

twilit patrol
#

Yes lol

#

But their voices and voices lines are similar

#

Ramattra say ''Suffer as i have''
Aatrox say ''Suffer as i suffer''

analog niche
#

I thought we were going to get more about him and zenyatta’s relationship when he was released, like in the week leading up to it with the animated shots we got

dense nebula
analog niche
#

^

merry mason
#

Likelihood of a short story for newguy

peak escarp
#

pretty high

#

it's just a question of when

keen summit
karmic turret
#

Okay it seems like biolight is simply just the combination of hardlight with natural and biological properties

limpid agate
keen summit
#

what if

#

hear me out

sly kettle
#

is lifeweaver a good guy or bad guy?

limpid agate
#

Good guy

keen summit
#

what if that life that he found is iris?

limpid agate
#

Its not

#

He was being very literal

#

They even just straight up show us

keen summit
#

i know but tbf its quite close

sly kettle
#

how is he connected to Sym?

limpid agate
#

They were both part of Vishkar

#

They were friends

sly kettle
#

thx

wise tulip
#

Thank god his voice doesn’t sound like james charles

#

i was worried about that

#

he sounds pretty nice actually

limpid agate
#

He sounds like a Thai BL protag.

plucky steeple
wise tulip
#

then again they tend to get some amazing voice talent in this game

plucky steeple
wise tulip
#

i don’t mind kiriko

plucky steeple
#

yea idm either but i main kiri and i think it could have been better

wise tulip
#

i think the problem is just that blizzard makes her a bit obnoxiously sarcastic

plucky steeple
#

tbh i think thats alright, its kinda her character. i just dont think her voice matches her culture at all

#

maybe if i was american it wouldnt be as noticeable

wise tulip
#

i mean her voice actor is japanese

#

she just doesn’t have a noticeable accent like genji or hanzo

plucky steeple
#

but like if you compare geji/hanzo to her its vcery different

#

yea exactly :p

wise tulip
#

she doesn’t need to though

plucky steeple
#

i love hanzos voice

wise tulip
#

some people do english with less accent than others

#

she could’ve just learned english earlier than genji and hanzo

wind portal
opaque hemlock
#

Kiriko’s lack of an accent is infuriating for me. Why does she sound American despite being the only one of genji/hanzo that’s always lived in japan

rare trail
#

yeah i agree i think her english might just be good

potent heath
#

Does life weaver also work at vishkar?

rare trail
#

no

potent heath
#

or used to

rare trail
#

i dont think he ever worked at vishkar

#

he was just in their training program

potent heath
#

what makes you say that

rare trail
#

we'll probably get more information in syms short story

rare trail
past copper
#

Welp, looking forward to Lifeweaver

#

His abilities really are unique as they said

rare trail
#

hes definitely related to vishkar somehow but the leak said he just did the training program and the origin seems to follow that

#

he uses nature and hardlight in some new technology

#

"biolight"

past copper
#

It might be that he uses hardlight to create artificial life

#

Not in the same way as omnics

#

But for plants

#

Well, I mean the only massive problem I see coming from would be his ult

rare trail
#

we have to see him in game to know that though

past copper
#

Seems like a massive version of Zen’s ult

rare trail
#

people thought ramattra would be really really broken on release but he wasnt

rare trail
#

seems like way less healing though

past copper
#

Well, I don’t think we saw primary fire

rare trail
past copper
#

If he actually has any

rare trail
#

he does

#

its like healing

past copper
#

I’ll take your word for it

#

But seeing what kinda of character he is, I like him

rare trail
#

yeah hes cool

#

his connections with sym are neat

past copper
#

Hell, I can actually relate to his efforts to protect our world with his tech

rare trail
#

i dont understand how they think he has a synergy with sym but we havent seen him in game yet so

past copper
#

I mean, I kinda think he’s supposed to be a 2070s hippie lol

#

But he seems cool all the same

rare trail
#

he just kinda manifests a rose

#

so maybe he can create life

past copper
#

Well Vishkar only uses its hardlight to create structures and buildings

#

Symmetra has shown to use it in more interesting ways in Stone by Stone

#

So he probably uses his hardlight to create artificial life as plants

rare trail
#

i wonder how powerful he'll be

past copper
#

Creating nature from hardlight. Who would’ve thought such a thing was possible

rare trail
#

i mean didnt his origin say it was "biolight" or smth

analog niche
#

Guys he’s someone we know

#

And he’s cute

rare trail
#

?

analog niche
#

Why did they say that?

#

Both are false

rare trail
#

yeah

analog niche
#

It’s so bizarre

rare trail
#

maybe hes in the background of some sym thing

analog niche
#

Same with the fact that they implied that mercy is “cute”

past copper
#

Well, it depends

rare trail
#

maybe they had a different idea and changed it

past copper
#

Was his face or concept in Recall

analog niche
#

I guess? But his design was done way before that statement

past copper
#

Or was there a concept in the 2016 heroes lineup art

peak escarp
#

he's new to us

#

they never said the next hero would be a known character

analog niche
#

I thought they did

rare trail
#

sojourn is though

analog niche
#

I think she looked better in recall

#

And in the storm rising event

worthy rose
#

i need 2 healers and a tank must have mic 21+ discord server dms open pm me for the invite chill vibes !!!!

rare trail
#

!!lfg

twilit nacelleBOT
#
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If you are looking for people to play with, assign yourself an LFG role in #roles-old!

merry mason
#

Misquote that started spreading around. They said that new heroes will include familiar faces, but never said the very next hero would be one

analog niche
#

Ah ok

#

I know that was a quote going around

keen summit
#

same with rein

lavish plume
#

not unless the person playing him wants to jump off of the edge and pull someone with them, but if they’re standing still, the person goes over his head, not into the well

past copper
#

I’ll be honest, that pull ability looks cool

dense estuary
#

Saw the trailer for lifeweaver. So he’s also from Vishkar, hmm I guess getting an arm replaced is essential for their personal scale hard light manipulation. Talk about commitment to the firm.

past copper
#

But I ain’t bout to be jumpin off the map to see if my teammate will save me

rare trail
#

i didnt get the impression his arm was replaced

dense estuary
#

It looked like the gold but was more than gloves.

past copper
#

Well nobody says that the arm Vishkar hardlight tech uses has to be the same

#

Which is another example of his difference from the rest of Vishkar

peak escarp
past copper
#

Probably don’t

#

Did you see all the other students?

#

They all had their arms replaced with prosthetics to use hardlight tech

light adder
#

what ethnicity is lifeweaver

rare trail
#

thai i think

trail ridge
#

Yes

#

He’s from Thailand

peak escarp
#

yes

light adder
#

also why is he on the fbi most wanted list

#

did he invent the cure for cancer

past copper
#

Stop shitposting

peak escarp
#

because he stole from Vishkar

light adder
past copper
#

He not wanted for anything

#

He just walked away from Vishkar

trail ridge
#

I think they want his technology

light adder
#

one of his voicelines says that hes wanted in 17 different countries

past copper
#

And started doing things different with his tech

trail ridge
#

from what I heard

#

Some voice lines are out

#

You can find them on youtoobe

peak escarp
past copper
#

If he’s wanted, it’s probably by people tearing down forests

#

I can’t imagine you want to help the world without causing problems for those who harm it

peak escarp
#

Vishkar thinks his tech should belong to them, since he made it while working for them

#

Niram is technically a fugitive

light adder
#

his name is niram?

peak escarp
#

similar to the situation with Lucio

past copper
#

So then I was technically right about his and Lucio’s background

peak escarp
#

sorry

trail ridge
#

He’s wanted in 17 countries

peak escarp
#

it's Nirun Pruksamanee

past copper
#

Vishkar wants to own their tech, but they won’t let that happen

#

While they can’t touch Lucio, Lifeweaver isn’t as safe

light adder
#

wait so is he trying to restore all the damage done to the planet

past copper
#

He’s trying to use his hardlight to recreate nature that was destroyed

#

In doing so, I can imagine he’s run into problems with big corporations

#

We don’t know the extent of his bio-light

#

But sounds like his hardlight can actually create new plants that can restore nature

#

Like normal plants can do, but possibly without the threat of deforestation

peak escarp
safe oriole
#

How does Lucio connect to vishkar again?

past copper
#

They stole his dad’s tech

#

He stole it back

austere cape
#

His fathers tech was taking by them

safe oriole
#

Ty

keen summit
#

its legit said in his lines

austere cape
#

He also stole it back from them and used it to liberate his home the rio map

#

Because vishkar was using the people there for slave labor

past copper
#

Keep in mind, anyone doing what’s right can be wanted

#

At least by those who want to put a stop to them

keen summit
#

pharah recognizes him, he has a bounty on his head in 17 countries

past copper
#

Sound familiar?

keen summit
#

im saying hes wanted

past copper
#

Technically speaking, Overwatch would be wanted too

#

But nobody is looking to arrest them during a war

austere cape
#

Didn’t Athena mention it would make them criminals if Winston made the recall active

keen summit
ivory garnet
#

they are criminals by law

#

vigilantism is illegal

keen summit
#

and vishkar is with their enemies

#

sigma is also wary of him

austere cape
#

That’s right symmetra’s boss is on the talon council

past copper
#

Anyone else betting Moira would be ingested in Lifeweaver’s tech

keen summit
trail ridge
#

You guys think he’s gonna be in the pve mode

keen summit
keen summit
past copper
#

Probably. I’d only assume he’s in the story, because maybe his tech is a threat to Ram

keen summit
#

cuz he has ties to vishkar, vishkar and talon are trying to kill him and the science community might turn on him'

past copper
#

But I kinda doubt it

dense estuary
#

Unleashing lifeweaver tech onto the Amazon would sure be handy for the world. Reforestation it.

keen summit
trail ridge
#

Which one

keen summit
#

Sanjay

#

a talon council member

trail ridge
#

oh

#

Never heard of him

keen summit
#

hes a higherup in vishkar

past copper
#

Honestly, Sanjay is probably only on the council to make money

peak escarp
#

it's all about who you know

past copper
#

After all, I can see his company making large sums of money if Doomfist succeeds

keen summit
trail ridge
#

Was he with symmetra in the comic story

ivory garnet
#

mhm

#

at the end

trail ridge
#

I see I see then I’ve seen him before

past copper
#

Another war means more cash

dense estuary
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Talon is also useful for aggressive actions that Sanjay would not want connected to Vishkar proper.

past copper
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Because someone ALWAYS profits from war

keen summit
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so it might be that sanjay believes in the vision of vishkar and doing anything for it. vishkars vision is a better future, a better world for everyone. and what do most of talon member want? a better future. doom wants humanity to evolve so future, moira takes the biggest leaps for better future of sanjay

keen summit
peak escarp
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Vishkar stands to make a lot of money rebuilding after Doomfist's war

keen summit
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it could work either way

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i just think its better story telling if its a corrupted view of vishkars altruistic motive

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just like how doom's and moira's views are corrupted versions of winston and mercy's views

past copper
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Not to mention, another war means more people to pay to rebuild

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And potentially more children to take in similar to Sym

keen summit
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think about it, winston is a highly evolved artificially monkey, who wants to build a better world. doom wants to force such evolution for a better future

past copper
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If I remember, I think most of Vishkar’s workers like Sym were either taken from their families

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Or orphaned from the Crisis

keen summit
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i dont remember that part

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but possible yea

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but i genuinly hope its not just that cuz we have money centric already

past copper
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Doomfist is rich from his family’s fortune

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Max is a broker

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Sanjay is apart of the biggest construction corporation

keen summit
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cuz i believe all talon councils represent a part of it. reaper is ground missions and overwatch hunt, doomfist is the visionary, the leader, max is money centric. sanjay is tech and construction, moira is science

past copper
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And we don’t even know about the other members

keen summit
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they all have a part that is logical for them

past copper
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Moira and Reaper just seem to be in it for themselves

keen summit
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im saying divisions within talon logistics

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see how they all fit

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doom threathens weaver that he cant count on the science community for long

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probs cuz moira

past copper
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Not to mention, we don’t see the complete picture for Sombra’s and Sigma’s presence

keen summit
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they arent part of talon council

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not all talon mems are part of council

past copper
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Other than Talon keeping them to themselves for what they’re capable of

keen summit
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even the elites

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sigma is probs shared between moira and reaper. probs cuz we know moira well talks to him despite her rather not doing so

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hinted at by yknowwww the there he goes again type lines

ivory garnet
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new agent seemed to think Junkrat and Roadhog are a couple in a voiceline with him

peak escarp
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he asks if they're a couple

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Junkrat doesn't get it

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safe to say they're not

ivory garnet
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yeah

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i dont think Junkrat even knows what a relationship is

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wanted in 17 countries though is quite a feat

peak escarp
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or just doesn't see Roadhog as a possible romantic interest

analog niche
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Roadhog is interested in Ana ❤️

white cairn
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I’m not into ow lore but this is crazy

analog niche
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Honestly, there’s no way this man is wanted in 17 countries and gets away as easily as he does

twilit patrol
white cairn
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He’s dumb and he has explosives

analog niche
white cairn
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Those two don’t go well together

white cairn
analog niche
white cairn
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ARESST NOWWWWW

analog niche
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See what happens

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You miss 100% of the hooks you don’t land

white cairn
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So inspirational

analog niche
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He and ana lowkey are kinda cute

white cairn
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“You miss 100% of the hooks you don’t land”
-pattycake

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That one voice line where he calls her “nana” just dismisses any unlogical proof of him being into her

analog niche
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Oh shoot I forgot about pharah’s dad

white cairn
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Ain’t she like 60 or smth 💀

analog niche
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Biotic grenadussy

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I don’t know her exact age

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Isn’t sigma oldest?

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By just a smidge more than rein?

rare trail
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yeah

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sigma is 62 rein is 61

peak escarp
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Ana is 60

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Roadhog is 48

gray kayak
peak escarp
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yes

gray kayak
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I thought so. I never got the notion that they were in any way romantic.

peak escarp
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the only hint of romance with Ana is Reinhardt

analog niche
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I don’t remember the interaction

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But I remember it was positive

twilit patrol
analog niche
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Me neither, but I could see how

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Who is the youngest?

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Dva