lore-discussion

[worthy rose]

Wait who’s is brigs mom again is she alive?

[ivory garnet]

yes

[rare trail]

torbs wife

[ivory garnet]

Ingrid

[peak escarp]

Ingrid Lindholm

[worthy rose]

Is there a possibility tracers wife Emily will be in the game?

[ivory garnet]

not at all

[worthy rose]

Ohh I see

[peak escarp]

girlfriend, and probably not

they're not married yet

[worthy rose]

I didn’t know that

[peak escarp]

I'm hoping for a wedding event for them

[worthy rose]

Who made bob for Ashe her parents right?

[rare trail]

why does torbs arm become like a crab claw if he has like a regular hand one there?

[ivory garnet]

Omnium

[rare trail]

her parents just bought bob i thought

[ivory garnet]

Bob came out of an Omnium, like every other omnic

bought as a butler

[worthy rose]

Makes sence

Sense

[peak escarp]

he has different attachments

[ivory garnet]

we’ll get more history of ashe and bob

in her upcoming short story

mhm

multiple

[rare trail]

hanzo and ashe right?

is there anyone else?

[ivory garnet]

Lyndsay Ely brings heartrending clarity to Ashe and B.O.B.’s pre-Crisis history.

o As Null Sector drop pods rain down on Tokyo, Hanzo hears the ghost of his father—and meets with a familiar face—in an electrifying tale by E.C. Myers.

o Corinne Duyvis and Sangu Mandanna trace Symmetra’s travels abroad to retrieve a Vishkar asset . . . and an old friend.

o Mohale Mashigo lends fresh perspective to Ana and Jack’s relationship as they weave through a broken Istanbul to meet with an informant, one who claims to have knowledge of what brought down Overwatch all those years ago.

[rare trail]

another ana and jack story?

i mean ana and jack are cool but we already have like three

[ivory garnet]

its continuation of their story

the whole point is to see those 2 as actual vigilantes

its most likely where we’ll see more Reaper aswell

[worthy rose]

Did the creator of echo die and become echo?

[ivory garnet]

no

[rare trail]

nah

[ivory garnet]

Dr Mina Liao died from a breach by Talon presumably

Echo was created far before that

[peak escarp]

I like the Old Soldiers plotline

[ivory garnet]

same

[peak escarp]

I'm happy to see more of it

[worthy rose]

Who was the person that sombra threatened

[ivory garnet]

Lady Volskaya

forgot her first name

[peak escarp]

btw those descriptions are from a collection of 8 new short stories that we'll be getting

[peak escarp]

Katya

[worthy rose]

Awesome

[ivory garnet]

mhm, do we have info on the other 4?

[worthy rose]

Was Zarya part of Overwatch?

[ivory garnet]

bc the amazon description is only 4

[rare trail]

i think so

[ivory garnet]

she is a new overwatch agent

[worthy rose]

Has anyone left talon to go to overwatch?

[ivory garnet]

Bap

[worthy rose]

Oh yeah

Did Ana answer the recall?

[ivory garnet]

possibly Maximillian in the future aswell

[rare trail]

no

[ivory garnet]

nope

[rare trail]

ana didnt answer

[worthy rose]

So than why does she say fine just one more mission

She wants to retire so bad

[ivory garnet]

the reason for New Blood was to get more heroes for the PvE and to show that Ana has no role in the new overwatch

[worthy rose]

Okay I see

[ivory garnet]

the one more mission is most likely her talking about her final journey with Soldier

[worthy rose]

Ohhh

[ivory garnet]

tho thats just her pre-game voiceline

so 🤷‍♂️

its goingto end happy

[rare trail]

talon gone ig

[ivory garnet]

thats all i can foresee

[rare trail]

talon and null sector gone

[worthy rose]

Wait so a little kid made orisa?

[ivory garnet]

yes

[peak escarp]

I can't find the listing, but it had some description of the other 4, just not as detailed

[ivory garnet]

ah okay

i thought there was more aswell shown somewhere

[peak escarp]

just locations where the stories are set

one is in Numbani

[ivory garnet]

definitely excited for Hanzo’s though, it can explain alot

[worthy rose]

Evie right?

[ivory garnet]

Efi but yes

[peak escarp]

there's some kids in the real world who could probably program a robot

child prodigy

[worthy rose]

Can sombra theoretically hack bastion and make him a null bot?

[peak escarp]

theoretically

[ivory garnet]

she can hack omnics

but idk abt changing their programming

[peak escarp]

she hacked omnics in the Numbani novel and made them go berserk

[ivory garnet]

didnt realize that

[worthy rose]

Who was the omnic that widow assasinated

[rare trail]

mondotta

leader of shambali

[ivory garnet]

oh, found it Doctor Six

the stars could mean 3 things

[peak escarp]

Tekhartha Mondatta, spiritual leader of the Shambali

[ivory garnet]

4 actually

[worthy rose]

Is runkrat in any group? Or is he just a criminal

[peak escarp]

Junkrat is a former Junker

[ivory garnet]

Sigma (was in space), Winston (was in space), Hammond (was in space), D.VA (shooting star, its a far reach tho)

[peak escarp]

along with Roadhog

they got kicked out for causing trouble

[worthy rose]

Hog killed he’s daughter by accident right?

[peak escarp]

no

[worthy rose]

His

[ivory garnet]

never had a daughter

thats a fan theory iirc

[peak escarp]

he doesn't have a daughter

[worthy rose]

Who was the little girl

[peak escarp]

what little girl?

[twilit patrol]

Efi ?

[ivory garnet]

him having a daughter is a fan theory to make Roadhog not look like a killer

[worthy rose]

Idk I swear some little girl gave him the sticker he has on his back

[peak escarp]

or explain why he likes cute things

[worthy rose]

The pig one

[ivory garnet]

nope, thats apart of the theory

[worthy rose]

Everyone likes cute things

[peak escarp]

he just likes cute things

especially pachimari

[worthy rose]

1# fan

[ivory garnet]

explains why he stole a pachimari machine in his garage wit Junkrat

[worthy rose]

Lucio: I'm trying to ask everyone this: What's your favorite animal?
Roadhog: Pachimari (with no hesitation)

[ivory garnet]

or it could be a Hog🤷‍♂️

[peak escarp]

I believe that's an interaction in the game

[ivory garnet]

idk if he has ever answered

[worthy rose]

It is an interaction, yes

[peak escarp]

Ashe - Scorpions
Bap - Tiger Shark
Bastion - Elephant
Brigitte - Siberian Tiger
Doomfist - Starlings
Genji - Triceratops
Junkerqueen - Dingo Shark
Kiriko - Fox
Mercy - Squirrel
Moira - Giant Centipede
Pharah - Big dogs
Ramattra - Ants
Reinhardt - Rhinocerous
Roadhog - Pachimari
Sojourn - Leopard seal
Sombra - Big fin squid
Symmetra - Dragonflies
Widowmaker - Black widow spider
Winston - Humans
Zarya - Rabbits (the huge ones)
Zenyatta - Ants```

these are the answers so far

[ivory garnet]

they havent gave Reaper one yet

or Cass

[peak escarp]

not yet

[ivory garnet]

sad

[primal bloom]

where is sigma

[worthy rose]

I forget that Genji's favorite is Triceratops lol

[peak escarp]

not everyone has answered

[ivory garnet]

Hanzo’s is either a wolf or dragon imo

[worthy rose]

What is Winston joke about the periodic table?

Or has he not got the chance to say it

I forgot if he actually gets to say it..

@peak escarp do you have any ow lore image that are screensaver worthy

Idm if you have a few if so just dump them in my dms so we don’t spam this chat with images lol

[peak escarp]

https://blizzard.gamespress.com/overwatch-2

I get a lot of good desktops from the press releases

[worthy rose]

Thank you

[marble pasture]

I like how both ramattra and zen like ants but for very different reasons

[wind wind]

why the weird looking folks like ants

[ivory garnet]

philosophical meanings

[viscid flame]

Oh these are upcoming short stories? Ah cool

The Sym and Zen story was a favorite of mine, a sequel should be great read

I imagine the familiar face is Kiriko

[alpine pawn]

i love that hog loves pachimari xd

[golden oak]

Queen and Bap both like sharks? 🤨

[rain shoal]

i love how sombra's favorite animal is a deep sea squid with very limited pics and info known about it

[fickle flower]

what's up my fellow lore enthusiasts

[wind wind]

I feel like echo's is gonna be a dolphin

acc not sure

more surprised pharah's is a big dog

[peak escarp]

apparently she has a rottweiler puppy at Helix

[rain shoal]

or maybe animals that're good at mimicking humans in some way like parrots

[wind wind]

I thought about that too but i also talk about her personality

[wind portal]

winston- humans is the funniest one ngl

[rain shoal]

is it gonna be out in October 17?

[peak escarp]

that's a tentative date

subject to change

[ivory garnet]

it most likely will

i suspect the short stories to come out monthly maybe, then Heroes Ascendant (the book with all 8 in it) to be the book to buy

[rain shoal]

if any of these stories involve null sector then i hope they tease a few of the many enemy units we would encounter eventually (or give us extra detail on how the ones they showed off like 2 years ago work in action)

cuz i assume they would release the pve on blizzcon since its the best chance to do so tbh

what better time to do it than in an annual event that has millions of people watching and attending?

[worthy rose]

@peak escarp where do you find the drawn images

Like the one you showed up there with Ingrid

[peak escarp]

her origin story

[worthy rose]

Ty Ty

[ivory garnet]

Hanzo’s is about Null Sector

and we already know how alot of them function

[worthy rose]

Was snowball always Mais companion? Like was snowball previously owned or did she build it

[peak escarp]

it's a weather control drone from the ecopoint she was stationed at

she didn't build it

[worthy rose]

Did Ashe and cass date before

There’s a picture of them together on her motorcycle

Or of cass my bad

[manic sentinel]

Why would bastion’s not be birds?

[worthy rose]

if sigma leaves talon will they try to kill him or try to convince him like they did with bap

[austere agate]

I don’t think so, think they were just partners in the deadlock gang

[manic sentinel]

Does anyone know why sigma actually went mad? What happened to him during his experiments?

[austere agate]

I believe he got exposed to a black hole and his mind was basically destroyed

for like a semi second

[brave estuary]

Probably kill him, they know he’s powerful I doubt they’d risk having him turn against them

[worthy rose]

yea i think he has severe personality disorder and his current personality is one that is fine with doing evil

[rare trail]

he isnt doing anything evil

hes just doing experiments

[peak escarp]

idk, ask the writers

Sigma doesn't have multiple personalities

he's just not always present

[austere agate]

do we know how zen and genji met

[peak escarp]

nope

[acoustic osprey]

hanzo best lore heroe

[peak escarp]

just that Genji refused his advice at first

[austere agate]

what was his advice? just some spiritual do away with your anger type of stuff?

[peak escarp]

I guess

[vapid tusk]

Why do people seem to dislike Cassidy?

[austere agate]

people such as other in game characters? I don’t think they dislike him, more like tease him

[worthy rose]

was the little girl that solder 76 helped sombra?

[ivory garnet]

the little girl that Soldier saved helped Zarya find Sombra

[worthy rose]

oh then i was misinformed i apologize

[merry mason]

People irl or the other characters?

[merry mason]

Nope, unrelated girl named Alejandra.

[vapid tusk]

Characters

[austere agate]

I think it’s more them joking around, not then disliking him

how soon was overwatch disbanded after the discovery of blackwatch?

[peak escarp]

Retribution (Blackwatch is exposed) was 8 years ago
Overwatch was disbanded 5 years ago

Reyes, Morrison and Amari were all MIA 6 years ago, and Reinhardt was forced to retire, so the only senior officers left to hold it together were Sojourn, Mercy and Torbjorn

and they all believed Overwatch had run its course

[austere agate]

was mercy the only senior officer to answer the recall?

[peak escarp]

Reinhardt did too

[austere agate]

only basing that off the fact she was the only one in zero hour

oh yea

[peak escarp]

and Sojourn will in the story missions

[austere agate]

I wonder since genji and mercy are implied to have some kinda romantic relationship

if they had any contact in those years where ow was disbanded

[peak escarp]

they did

[austere agate]

noice

[peak escarp]

they wrote letters to each other

[austere agate]

ok that’s rly cute

[ivory garnet]

nice to know he takes his visor off, i wonder the same for his cheek/mouth piece when he’s just relaxing

[rugged remnant]

in fact, mercy's ability where she can revive would be a bit canon since the timing to revive represents the senses that are gradually lost until death

[ivory garnet]

her “revive” is a burst of healing

[peak escarp]

there's resurrect

[ivory garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-mercy-mei-gif-18832704

[peak escarp]

lol

[ivory garnet]

oh im too slow for u

[rugged remnant]

because the lore is very confusing for me sorry

[peak escarp]

Mercy can also resuscitate someone like any doctor can - there's a period after clinical death where a person can be brought back

[rugged remnant]

que ya entendi pendejo

[peak escarp]

no need to be rude

[rugged remnant]

ok sorry

[austere agate]

bro thought we didn’t know spanish

[peak escarp]

I know that's what you meant

I was just clarifying

[rugged remnant]

me sirve

[peak escarp]

it's just that the second method isn't practical in combat

and is more likely to happen in a hospital setting

[rugged remnant]

Great, they even explain medicine to me

[rugged remnant]

well now I'm like an idiot so bye

[peak escarp]

getting things explained doesn't mean you're an idiot

it just means we like explaining things

[austere agate]

was kirikos mom like some sort of mercenary for the shimada clan before she was an instructor?

cuz she seems to be pretty well known as the world best swordsman, even doom recognizes her in a voice line

[ivory garnet]

not known

[austere agate]

gotcha

[grand wedge]

We don't know, but she was definitely known for her mastery of the sword.

[keen summit]

Might just join cuz they seem to be in Toronto tho

So might help first and decide to join

[keen summit]

Iggy design is sick tho

Shes the hero if weve seen em before i think itll be

Shes nice contrast to kace and rama and also has biotechnics background

Together with a motivation to fight

[worthy rose]

what is my man winston doing there

[keen summit]

Hes helping

[twilit patrol]

Tracer too

[golden oak]

Does overwatch want equal rights for omnics?

[keen summit]

Its explained in the comics, theyre both there to help fix the grid

[keen summit]

Yes.

Keep in mind the omnics they fought werent sapient

[golden oak]

So why didn’t ramattra team up with them instead

[keen summit]

Because theyre also not taking action

Talon is the only one willing to do something

Even if its just an empty promise that they can create conflict and rama can get a safe place for omnics

While overwatch was like mondatta, never taking action

Thatd why i think echo is aurora two cuz it fits with making a better future and allowing them to stop rama without killing him

[worthy rose]

Im curious does reinhardt have ptsd around bastion?

[keen summit]

Rama knows lots want equal rights but they never do something so its empty, just saying "i want equality but i dont care enough to try"

[keen summit]

I wouldnt think with bastion, with orisa tho...

Cuz her predecessors scarred him and basically ended his mentor

[worthy rose]

ig reinhardt does say "for balderich" after killing orisa

is reinhardt racist!!!!!??

[twilit patrol]

Huh ??

[keen summit]

Hes mature enough not to

Like

Hate her for ot

Cuz shes not or14

But yes he does say that

Rein probs doesnt dislike bastion simply cuz if even torb took a liking to him he must be good

I'd love if we get iggy tho cuz rama is omnic freedom in exchange for human lifes, iggy in exchange of nothing if it could happen and only the dangerous people should die and kace in exchange for ANYTHING

[ivory garnet]

no, he’s fine around omnics

[keen summit]

Kace is what lots think rama is

[golden oak]

Who ordered to assassinate mondatta?

[twilit patrol]

Talon but i don't know exactly

[ivory garnet]

most likely Ramattra

Talon would have no reason of assassinating Mondatta

so Ramattra probably asked Doomfist if one of his agents could take Mondatta out

[keen summit]

likely to be rama

[keen summit]

not doom

doom was in prison

eh ig moles so maybe yeah

[golden oak]

So he wants to stop the genocide of his people by killing one of his people?

[grand wedge]

Talon ordered it

But we don't know who

[viscid flame]

I couldn't see Ram ordering his assassination, he was livid at him by the end of the short story and thought he was a fool, but I think he still respected him enough to not be underhanded like that

[viscid flame]

Doom didn't order Mondatta's assassination, in the Masquerade comic he says "I don't mind a little ambition in my people. I saw that someone killed Mondatta"
https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/media/stories/masquerade/

[sly beacon]

How strong really is doom fist in lore?

[peak escarp]

top 5

top 3 if you don't count speculation

[sly beacon]

Whos the othe 5 or 3

[gray kayak]

How much time has passed between OW1 and OW2 in-universe?

Has it been 1 month or 1 year?

[sly beacon]

Orisa is on there right?

[worthy rose]

The others, of those I can remember, is Orisa, Winston, Symmetra and Sigma

[sly beacon]

Symmetra?

Why her?

[grand wedge]

At least 1

[peak escarp]

it's 1 year between Recall and Zero Hour, and an additional unknown amount of time between Zero Hour and OW2 story mode

[grand wedge]

But since we have Doomfist new biography there is a 2 year gap to fill

[gray kayak]

So we can confidently say that it's been a year between the two games?

[peak escarp]

Symmetra and Sigma are the speculation... Orisa, Winston and Doomfist make up the rest of the top 5

[peak escarp]

yes

[grand wedge]

That was what Jeff said

1 year between Recall and Zero Hour

[worthy rose]

Hardlight, the stuff that Symmetra is extremely good at working with, is speculated to be extremely powerful

[sly beacon]

Speculated

[gray kayak]

Thanks guys

Appreciate you

[worthy rose]

An entire city has been made with hardlight, but we don't have a definitive answer to the limit of its power

[sly beacon]

Sigma is probably the strongest

[peak escarp]

probably

[keen summit]

Read rana story, he hated mondatta

[rotund ermine]

Symmetra is bootleg green lantern

Ofc she’s gonna be strong

[worldly gull]

Sigma can only do so much tbh

[golden oak]

Can she use her powers in combat effectively tho

[worldly gull]

He can't rly make a black hole

Even if Sigma could make a black hole he can't really control it

[rain shoal]

since the new support is gonna be "cute" like Mercy then i think its probably gonna be either Iggy, Dae-Hyun, Linx 17 or Overlord (or someone completely new we've not seen before)
out of these candidates i think Overlord is the least likely since having another mech hero potentially like Dva is gonna be a big headache for the devs since Dva is basically a spaghetti mess due to her two forms being 2 different heroes in the code having many issues and bugs throughout the game's history. but the mech is a part of his identity as we've seen so far, it wouldnt make sense for him not to have it.
Linx 17 is a bit lackluster in terms of lore for now but they could expand on it and a support hacker would be cool.
Dae-Hyun could also work as a support but he's an engineer so im not sure if they're gonna add another engineer support which we already have Brig but they could make him different enough.
Imo Iggy is the most likely one since she has more lore than the other 3 and her design already has a personality, though once again unless they find a way to make her different enough from Lucio that is.

[viscid flame]

Wait they said the new support would be cute?

Dang it, I was hoping for a Junker support lol

[twilit patrol]

Cute but not kidding

[wind portal]

Dae-Hyun is a non-combatant, it's likely a new hero relatinv to The Collective

[manic sentinel]

whats the lore of pachimari?

where do the idea of them come from

why are they so popular

What are they plotting? Do they have an agenda?

[glossy fossil]

Is there a reason why Cassidy says Its high noon when he uses his ult?

[golden oak]

What is pachimari?

[peak escarp]

it's an onion octopus

it's an in-universe cute mascot toy

[grand wedge]

I think it's a turnip actually

[peak escarp]

The creation of Pachimari came out of the need for toys in Hanamura's "UFO catchers" (Pachimari-brand claw machines). It was designed by concept artist David Kang who was inspired by the Korean word for onion which sounds like "pa."

[grand wedge]

Where did i read it was a turnip then 🤔

[golden oak]

Why is it relevant?

[spark saddle]

It does look like one tho

[quiet thunder]

torb swimsuit is the best lore in ow2

fat hammond is better then everyone facts

torb and soldier 76 gay together confirmed

[ivory garnet]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[foggy lake]

man spitting straight facts

[brave estuary]

It’s a trope in western films that the protagonist and rival/bad guy have a duel at high noon in the middle of town to see who’s quicker on the draw

[glossy fossil]

ty

[manic sentinel]

So is he just an insanely good shot at close range? Would cassidy’s aim at close range rival widow’s/ana’s aim at far range, considering how fast he can line up his shots?

[young lily]

Is doomfist numbanian

[peak escarp]

he's from Nigeria

[true locust]

Cybjörn skin has a quote on the side of it which reads something about being a collection of the worst nightmares possible, what’s the reason for this if there is one?

[peak escarp]

Torbjorn hates AI and omnics

becoming a cyborg would be his worst nightmare

[worthy rose]

Honestly I want junkrat to become good in ov. I main him and all his voice lines make me sad for him ngl

[austere agate]

I get that

it really made me sad when he said “you look like a gentleman who eats his own toenails”

[worthy rose]

Lmao

[austere agate]

in a doom and cass voiceline cassidy says “talons my third choice”

who’s the second

deadlock gang?

[peak escarp]

jail

[austere agate]

lmao

actually?

[peak escarp]

yeah

[rare trail]

A lil inaccurate

[peak escarp]

almost correct

Reyes and Morrison didn't have beef until later

it wasn't caused by Morrison getting promoted over him

it was caused by Reyes keeping secrets (aka Moira) from Morrison and losing his trust

[rare trail]

It’s a little inaccurate

Like genji didn’t leave overwatch it just disbanded

There was no overwatch to leave because Petras act shut it down

But mostly accurate

[peak escarp]

I think Genji did leave before it disbanded

it's not really clear

[rare trail]

I thought overwatch would’ve kept him as long as possible they might’ve let him leave after shimada was taken down though

[peak escarp]

Kiriko is 24

Soldier is 57

[rare trail]

Jq and soj are just guesses too

[peak escarp]

we don't know the exact ages for JQ and Sojourn, but those guesses are okay

[rare trail]

What’s the youngest omnic that’s sentient?

Like sentient from aurora so not whatever efi did to orisa

[peak escarp]

we don't know

[rare trail]

Is the we youngest we know of zen?

[peak escarp]

yes

[rare trail]

Do we know the time gap between aurora and echo?

Like when they were made by Liao

[peak escarp]

Aurora was made before the omnic crisis started 30 years ago

Echo is probably around 15 years old

[rare trail]

So aurora was around for a while before ascending?

[peak escarp]

yes

[limpid agate]

Ecopoint Antarctica is located on the Antarctic Peninsula

I dont understand the quesiton

The Antarctic Peninsula is about the size of France

Or Thailand

Ecopoint Antarctica is located on that peninsula

Its like asking if the Shambali Monastery is a small part of Nepal

[ivory garnet]

Ecopoint Antarctica is a base on the Peninsula

[keen summit]

its also hinted at and implied that rama's main base omnium that he found before uprising is there

as there were oddities around that time in antartica around when rama arrived in the omnium that was covered underneath ice

[true locust]

ohhhhh ok thank you

[worthy rose]

Is Hanzo good or evil

[grand wedge]

Neither

He came from a family of yakusa, and he did bad things, but he is looking for redemption and doesn't want to align with Talon.

[rain shoal]

i do hope we get to play in a story mission on that omnium once the story PvE progresses

[worthy rose]

idk if this is lore considered but in the new pachimari game mode the announcer is probably hog without his mask

[rain shoal]

i didnt even know it was hog at first

[safe oriole]

Me neither

[rain shoal]

its interesting that it might in antarctica, probably the most difficult place for an omnium to be in along with the gwishin omnium

[peak escarp]

it's where it would be most hidden from humans

the Gwishin omnium was made by humans - the Antarctic one was built by Anubis

[keen summit]

Exactly where only omnics could work so it was perfect for anubis to build

[peak escarp]

yep

[twilit patrol]

Do we know why Gwishin were created ?

[worthy rose]

bastion will probably be part of overwatch in pve

[twilit patrol]

Probably yeah

[woeful stratus]

it in fat, is! if you pick hog, he says "Me! good choice." or something along those lines

idk if its without the mask or they chose to make his voice more clear to listen to tho

[worthy rose]

I thought it was without the mask

although they have toned his voice up a bit

btw

[woeful stratus]

yeah i think they gave him a bit more enthusiasm in his voice

or personality ig

[worthy rose]

it would be funny if you select reaper hog says the edgelord himself

[woeful stratus]

real

his names r so funny

[worthy rose]

by doom he should have said the one punch man coz of the collab

[woeful stratus]

TRUUUU

[worthy rose]

but instead he just says mr fist or something

[woeful stratus]

largefist i think

[worthy rose]

oh yeah that

[woeful stratus]

yeyeye

[worthy rose]

but why did he say by genji 500 edges

I don’t get that

[peak escarp]

because he's sharp

[woeful stratus]

sharp boi

[worthy rose]

would be cooler if he said something about the dragons

[woeful stratus]

probably!

[stone notch]

Is hog dating mercy?

[twilit patrol]

Are you serious ?

[stone notch]

I heard rumors

[twilit patrol]

This is fun

But where ?

[peak escarp]

it was an old April fools joke

no, Mercy is not dating Hog

for the hundredth time

[twilit patrol]

I've never seen that before

[peak escarp]

sorry, not April Fools

but it was a joke from customer support

[worldly gull]

does that mean I have a chance?

[twilit patrol]

I see. But it doesn't change what i've said.

[peak escarp]

this guy doesn't seem to know what ambushed actually means

the exact reason for Reinhardt's forced retirement isn't known

it's likely that a mission he led went wrong, possibly due to his age

I'm always here

[woeful fiber]

lmao, that's hilarious

[worthy rose]

[twilit patrol]

What Winton

[manic sentinel]

How do crusader suits work? Rein is really big but his armour makes him unnaturally massive. Im guessing he's stood on some sort of platforms for the feet?

Also in his cinematic, the dude with him takes his helmet off and a blue liquid/gel drips out. What's that about?

[torpid terrace]

Winton

[worthy rose]

hi guys how do i get into a group to play.. i’m kinda new 😭

[peak escarp]

hydraulic fluid

[twilit patrol]

#lfg-pc-eu-unranked Just there

[forest plume]

has the story for the PvE story mode been written yet?

[grand wedge]

isn't that supposed to be the first thing written so they can develop the game around it?🤔

[peak escarp]

yes it has been written

it's mostly the cutscenes and talents that they're still working on

[twilit patrol]

For 3 years and more

[rare trail]

they pronounced brig wrong !

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cQoEr7e_UOw theres a sigma vid from this guy

its not very accurate

he didnt do his stuff on the iss

he doesnt have multiple personalities

talon so far hasnt been shown to use his gravity powers just his research

[hushed cape]

So reaper is basically a edgy deadpool?

And why doesn't he off Moira?

[peak escarp]

because he doesn't hate her

and she's the only person who understands his condition

[limpid agate]

I dont understand what you mean by this

No?

[hushed cape]

Reaper is in constant pain as his body is decaying and healing at the same time

[hushed cape]

He does hate her. His voicelines has hints of hatred towards her

"I've had enough "

[rare trail]

deadpool isnt in constant pain though

deadpool is just chilling

[hushed cape]

"No more experiments."

[hushed cape]

Yeah but his cancer his killing and healing him at the same time

[peak escarp]

that sounds more like he hates experiments, not Moira

[limpid agate]

He also isn't decaying and healing the same as Deadpool

His body isn't decaying as much as, he can manually decay and regenerate his body

Code of Violence tells us he has to consciously do it

[hushed cape]

Code of what?

[limpid agate]

!!lorestories

[twilit nacelle]

Short Stories:
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE
Stone By Stone: https://bit.ly/36EsPul
Code of Violence: https://bit.ly/33CeroL

Lore Bites:
Yōkai: https://bit.ly/3UDJzKb
Reflections: https://bit.ly/3FiMNx2

Overwatch Novels. Note: These books are not free, but can be purchased online from a retailer like Amazon (linked)
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Overwatch: Sojourn: https://amzn.to/3z4mc47

[limpid agate]

Read the stories

[hushed cape]

Oh shit that's his talon skin.

[rare trail]

so if hes like sleeping is he like dying because he cant be consciously doing it?

[peak escarp]

no

he's not regenerating or decaying

[hushed cape]

I pissed I can't get the dusk skin.

[woeful fiber]

Bookmarking for later

[hushed cape]

Whats the beef with Jack and Sojourn? Why did she testify against OW

[peak escarp]

she believed that Overwatch had run its course, that it was time to let go

Jack doesn't like that she gave up

[wind portal]

so Sojourn rejoining overwatch would essentially ruin the PETRAS act then since she was basically the reason that the PETRAS act got approved anyway

[ivory garnet]

no it wouldn’t necessarily ruin it

the UN is in charge of it

[carmine remnant]

Why is echo a robot

[peak escarp]

what do you mean why?

what else would she be?

[naive smelt]

Winton

[worldly gull]

thought he did?

[rare trail]

Nah

Sigma doesn’t have did or anything

[worldly gull]

i didnt think it was did

i thought it had to do with him touching the black hole and that somehow merging timelines of that exact location or person together

[rare trail]

That’s not really supported by much

[worldly gull]

he is somehow trapped in his own mind tho right

[rare trail]

Yeah something like that

It was “fractured” or something

[worldly gull]

well im trying to apply some sort of scientific explanation to a crazy old guy with gravity powers

so i guess im destined to fail

i thought there was a lot of stuff in videos and such of him seemingly snapping into different personalities actually

[rare trail]

Kinda

I mean he does have some pretty big mood shifts but it was like in the midst of a major traumatic event

[worldly gull]

consistent or common mood shifts feel like they might a sign of something

[peak escarp]

the only lore we have for Sigma is his origin trailer, which is heavily stylized

his psyche is fractured, so sometimes he's present sometimes he's not

[twilit patrol]

Because she’s robot

[worthy rose]

Sigma just mentally ill and U guys romanticising it

Leave the poor guy alone

[ivory garnet]

?

[rain shoal]

Wait but why her? (Sorry i didn’t read any of the novels)

[ivory garnet]

Sojourn rejoining wouldnt ruin the PETRAS act

the UN holds the PETRAS act, not her

[keen summit]

Wow still nothin

[keen summit]

Like yiu would think we'd get something by now

[grim pewter]

who you guys think the new hero is gonna be?

[keen summit]

either iggy or new hero we've never seen

[grim pewter]

its a blizzard thing to do to just introduce some random person we’ve never seen before

like bap and sigma

[keen summit]

yeah

[grim pewter]

it might just be someone from some really odd bit of lore and it was hidden in a map the whole time

[keen summit]

most likely from collective or Peru

thats the two things that are hinted at

[grim pewter]

i bet its an omnic with it’s personality chip being around that guys neck from the collective

[twilit patrol]

Omnics are cute yeah

[keen summit]

or their child

etc

[grim pewter]

well no

[keen summit]

or even as i said Iggy

[grim pewter]

unless its an adopted child

[twilit patrol]

But it's a child ?

[grim pewter]

idk man they havent given us many clues im just thinking of any ideas

[keen summit]

not necessarily, keep in mind kiriko was only mentioned as asa's daughter

[twilit patrol]

Yeah but not kids like 14 years old

[grim pewter]

their child could just be like kiriko and just be an adult now

anyways we could all be completely wrong

[keen summit]

you would still call your daughter your daughter even if shes an adult.

[twilit patrol]

Yes because we don't know anything

[keen summit]

yeah, its all speculation atm cuz 0 teasers

[grim pewter]

they gonna do it in like a week probably

but tbh im more excited about pve then the new hero

[twilit patrol]

So, i'll be waiting

[grim pewter]

real

[twilit patrol]

Yes me too

[keen summit]

my hype immidiatly died with the cute comment

[twilit patrol]

You know, he/she's maybe cute but he/she's probably not kidding ^^

[grim pewter]

the lore is finally gonna expand instead of just being origin stories

[keen summit]

thing is for me i was hoping for a hero like Kace or Sanjay

those are important to lore

im hoping for iggy cuz she could atleast have a story line of tracking down kace and in extension null sector

[grim pewter]

ramatrra is gonna be a raid boss or smth

he gives off final boss vibes anyways

[twilit patrol]

Maybe

[keen summit]

thx to his nanobots he could be

yknow his nanobots make him have so much potential

[twilit patrol]

No honestly i don't see him as a ''final boss''

[grim pewter]

he could do a thing like the villian from big hero 6

[keen summit]

he wont be the final tho

i agree

i have a theory to how itll be resolved

[twilit patrol]

Oh memories

[grim pewter]

gets a huge amount of nano bots becoming a humongus mass of nano bots

that would be cool

like the wither storm lol

[keen summit]

my theory for it is that echo wil be aurora 2

[grim pewter]

bro i kinda just want more bastion lore

[keen summit]

that shes not just the echo of liao but also of aurora, which will resolve rama's main issue, that omnics are finite

so if echo solves that by making new omnics also get sapience it means that rama has nothing to fight for, and they dont have to kill him

[grim pewter]

imagine if the final boss of the pve is sombra tho LMAO

she just hacks all of null sector

[twilit patrol]

Why Sombra

[keen summit]

cuz you cant lock rama up when he doesnt want to

thats shown alot, that he either dies or gets his way

so if echo can make more omnics sentient it means theres a solid reason for omnics to get a place for themselves, and also means omnics are no longer finite

addressing rama's problems and making him step down

cuz thats the thing, if humanity agrees to stop, rama would stop too

cuz i think doom and talon will stay as the endgame

cuz talon is the foil for overwatch

look at doom and winston, both the leaders of their factions, both smart and powerfull people, both want to fight for a better future but one with bloodshed and the other with protecting people

mercy and moira same thing.

mauga and bap ofcourse

[twilit patrol]

They got somethings in common

[keen summit]

yeah its more that they have more connections than null sector

which is why i think talon vs overwatch is endgame

also cuz most likely hashimoto thematically fits talon too cuz its more future oriented

[grim pewter]

hacker lady

[keen summit]

notice how shimada was tradition and hashimoto seems more future? that means suddenly there are stakes for kiri and hanzo aswell

[twilit patrol]

I find it's really complicated.

[twilit patrol]

Ok whatever

[keen summit]

i care alot about thematic story telling

notice how almost all main factions are oriented on a better future?

in some way

[twilit patrol]

A better future but not same vision like you said

[keen summit]

yeah

they all want a better future but how they want to do it is different

as i said: vishkar from what we know wants better future, talon is doom's philosophy, overwatch, and null all go for a better future

vishkar through building things they destroy aswell, doom for evolution through conflict, overwatch for a better world without conflict and null by forcing people to either conform to giving omnics a save space and a better future or die.

all want to force their future and all dont do it legally

[twilit patrol]

And Overwatch is included unfortunately

[keen summit]

so i believe hashimoto too will be future oriented cuz thematically look at hanzo kiriko and genji
hanzo is past tradition, genji and kiriko are a mix (again sad that kiriko is with it cuz otherwise wouldve been trio) so thematically the hashimotos should be future oriented. so you could say maybe its an omnic who leads them and works with talon for their new tech from null sector and vishkar

their motive could be simply said obsessive want for innovation

and they could be tank, could be very cool. however obviously probs not next hero

and i think hero from s8 will be mauga

[twilit patrol]

I hope they develop it well because if it's just a Talon pawn in a heavy assault, i'm not so excited finally.

[keen summit]

i think cuz of his ties and being probs a bit enhanced after the explosion he might be part of overwatch hunt

[twilit patrol]

Yeah it's quite normal

[grim pewter]

i still have a strong suspicion that sombra is doing something big

[twilit patrol]

Maybe she will help sigma

[golden oak]

Ramattra is R-7000?

[twilit patrol]

Yes Ram is R-7000 units

[mild saffron]

Why is Sombra friends with sigma and not solider 76

solider saved her life as a child

without him she'd be dead

in the overwatch cinematic "Hero" solider Sheilds her from a grenade with his body

[worthy rose]

The child in that cinematic is not Sombra

It’s a girl named Alejandra

[twilit patrol]

Not necessarily friend but maybe she will help him to leave Talon ?

[twilit patrol]

And she's mexican

[worthy rose]

So is Sombra

[twilit patrol]

Sombra is mexican ?

[worthy rose]

Yes

[twilit patrol]

Oh i thought she was russian

Ok ok

[worthy rose]

Are you confusing Sombra and Zarya?

[twilit patrol]

No

[mild saffron]

I thought that was?

it'd make sense?

[twilit patrol]

Not really

[worthy rose]

Sombra is an adult at the time the cinematic takes place

[mild saffron]

hm ok

What's up with sombras friendship with sigma

like she is genuinely friends with him and doesn't rlly want info out of him like everyone else

also we need more of Sigmas lore, I'm curious how he met the Iris and what did she tell him/ do to him

In a zenyatta and sigma talk sigma mentions that he's met the "iris" which I believe is what Zenyatta worships or smth

[golden oak]

But Sombra’s real name isn’t Sombra afaik

[worthy rose]

Her real name is Olivia

[mild saffron]

currently gonna be watching all cinematic in order

[upbeat thistle]

i think sigma is just loony

[mild saffron]

I love that a bird of all things stopped bastion from destroying a city

[mild saffron]

there is way more to it then that

[upbeat thistle]

i mean

he sees the infinite universe

so sure he met everything and everyone

but i dont think he buddies or smt with "Iris"

[mild saffron]

It's an expirement gone wrong he has phycological damage

[upbeat thistle]

yea

[mild saffron]

he's not just loony

[upbeat thistle]

i mean he kinda is

people who hear music in their head and have multiple personalities arent exactly sane 😩

[rare trail]

he doesnt have multiple personalities !

[upbeat thistle]

my bad

[rare trail]

he is insane though !

[mild saffron]

Yeah

[upbeat thistle]

gravity is just a harness fr

[rare trail]

also the iris is a state of being not a person so you cant really meet it !

sigma is insane he does a little trolling !

[mild saffron]

he hears whispers and voices and music

[upbeat thistle]

i dont care abt him and the iris i just love his accent

[upbeat thistle]

because hes insane

he claims to see the infinite universe etc but i think its pretty canon he just gone insane

in lore he cant even control the black holes like in the game

hes just an old insane man who can harness black holes

[mild saffron]

not exactly insane, just his mind is broken

[upbeat thistle]

yeah

thats what insane means love

[golden oak]

Wild how nobody calls her that

[mild saffron]

Insane the repeating an action over and over and expecting a different outcome

[golden oak]

Does talon members know her name?

[twilit patrol]

Sigma like to look ants on ceiling

[upbeat thistle]

Usage The use of insane to describe a person with severe mental illness is now often considered offensive. The phrase mentally ill is preferred. Insane in this sense now occurs chiefly in such legal phrases as criminally insane and temporarily insane. She was insane with jealousy/anger.

have you seen his cinematic 😩

i dont think he even realises what happened considered time is all over the place for him

[mild saffron]

I'll see it sometime during this video

I'm watching them all rn

in order

[upbeat thistle]

he keeps witnessing everything all over again

back and forth

hes ill

[mild saffron]

Ill yes

insane no

but anyways I'll be back when I have more research on his

[opaque scroll]

a decent number of the ones claiming to have them in "order" arent even in the correct canonical order iirc

[upbeat thistle]

its whatever either way hes not uh capable of being trusted for his facts

[golden oak]

Many talon members call each other by their first names
Moira calls reaper “Gabriel” and she calls Doomfist “Akande” but she never called Sombra “Olivia”

[worthy rose]

I assume barely anyone, if anyone at all, calls Sombra by her first name because they simply just don’t know it

[golden oak]

Yeah probably

[peak escarp]

she probably doesn't know Sombra's real name

[golden oak]

Does anyone know it?

[peak escarp]

Zarya does

[golden oak]

Interesting

[worthy rose]

Yeah I know that Sombra's name was revealed in that one comic, but I didn't know if it was shown that anyone knew it

[golden oak]

She calls widowmaker by her last name tho

[worthy rose]

My own reasoning for that is because Amelie is gone, and Widowmaker took her place (metaphorically)

[golden oak]

Then why she call her Lacroix and not widowmaker

[worthy rose]

Ion know lol, it's just a playground thought I had

[opaque scroll]

i mean some people just are called by their last name

[distant bluff]

ambatukammmmm

ughhhh

am kamin

[woeful stratus]

IF ITS A PERUVIAN HERO IM MAINING THEM.

they did say it was someone we already knew tho

and that theyre "cute in the way mercy is"

[twilit patrol]

Mercy is cute ?

[woeful stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-mercy-gif-5656219

[woeful stratus]

i mean some things she does in emotes is cute

like her laugh, the applause, and the no-pulse emote

those id say are cute in like a charming way

[twilit patrol]

I still have doubts

[woeful stratus]

cuteness is subjective, thats ok

wrong word

people are saying it's overlord from the MEKA squad

[twilit patrol]

Some characters are cute but are very crazy

[woeful stratus]

ngl, i kind of want the new hero to be a male

[twilit patrol]

Hammond for example

[woeful stratus]

true but i think they said mercy cute because it may be a character thats like charming in a sense

not like animal cute

[celest egret]

i REALLY hope the new hero is maximillion

Mercys defo cute

[twilit patrol]

''Maximillion''

[woeful stratus]

maximillen is not cute tho, hes serious

and sinister

so it isnt him

[celest egret]

aw man did i spell his name wrong 😭😭😭

[woeful stratus]

maybe he'll be our next dps

[twilit patrol]

He said ''Maximillion'' it's other one

[worthy rose]

Maximilien is not likely to be a hero since he's not a fighter

[twilit patrol]

No ?

[woeful stratus]

thats true as well.... hes a businessperson

[celest egret]

i could see him joining Overwatch as a last resort

[twilit patrol]

Please don't ruin my joke

[worthy rose]

Max is a guy who does work behind the scenes

[woeful stratus]

i dont think hed throw pennies at someone offensively or defensively 💀

[twilit patrol]

No i don't want Max as a hero

[worthy rose]

Genji but he uses casino chips instead of shuriken

[celest egret]

i want max as a hero haha

i think he'd have nice interactions with Ramattra

[worthy rose]

If anything, I'd also like to see Max as a hero, but thinking realistically, I don't think it'll happen

[twilit patrol]

Have they met before ?

[celest egret]

Im pretty sure

I think their personalities would mesh in a really funny way

[worthy rose]

Not confirmed afaik, but they may have before, since Null Sector is presumably working together with Talon

[twilit patrol]

What's way ?

[twilit patrol]

Yes maybe

[celest egret]

They're both super serious and are both antagonists to the lore, I can see them getting along a little bit

[worthy rose]

We may see them have interactions in PvE

[twilit patrol]

That's what i meant. There's no reason why they can't get along.

And they're both omnics

[celest egret]

Exactlyyy i need to see them interact so bad lmao

if its someone from the mekka force, I can only assume dvas gonna step into the lore there

[twilit patrol]

[worthy rose]

Not to burst your bubble, but they have said before that they have no plans to add more MEKA members

Which is why it's so tiring to see people constantly yell: "It's gonna be Overlord for real!"

[twilit patrol]

We have D.va and it's enough

We don't need other one

[frosty gale]

neither is zen

[celest egret]

tbh im really hoping its not another meka member 😭 i dunno it feels a bit dragged

[worthy rose]

Zen is not a backstage businessman, but he can still fight. Max doesn't have any combat prowess from all I know

[worthy rose]

To be honest, I actually don't care who or what any new hero will be. It's a new hero, and that's all I want

[celest egret]

tbf if Zenyatta wasn't already a hero i wouldnt assume he'd be one haha

[celest egret]

truetrue i love new heroes so bad

[twilit patrol]

And I don't care if there's a new hero, yeah i'm the only one.

[frosty gale]

im excited to have a new support

im a support main

[worthy rose]

Me too. The support roster is too small. Lucky for us, the next hero after this one is also support

[frosty gale]

two new possible heros to main

[celest egret]

i was VERY pleased with kiriko's announcement :] she's my support main i love her so bad

[frosty gale]

dps doesnt get a new hero until like season 10 laughs

[twilit patrol]

She's so cute

And funny

[worthy rose]

Most likely. Season 8 is gonna be a tank, so yeah, season 10 is probs a dps

[celest egret]

TRUEEE im so happy her and Dva are canonically best friends 😭 theyre my favorites

[twilit patrol]

Wait, really ?

[celest egret]

yeah :] Kiriko refers to her as 'her bestie' in the interactions

my data is dying on me 😭

[twilit patrol]

Oh this is so cool

I also hope Kiriko will join Overwatch

[celest egret]

ikrrr also the official art of them together

[twilit patrol]

But if Kiriko joins Overwatch, they will become powerful no ?

[peak escarp]

I don't think they've ever met

I don't know why Kiriko calls her "bestie"

but voice lines are hypothetical - if they met, they'd be friends

[peak escarp]

Kiriko isn't that powerful

Overwatch already has Winston

Winston is the strongest by virtue of being the main character

he gets plot armor

[worthy rose]

The most powerful form of armor there is

[vocal marsh]

When will the new hero likely be revealed

[dapper summit]

will there be a new one for s4?

[vocal marsh]

Oh I lost regular lol

Yes

Support

[peak escarp]

within the next 2 weeks

[twilit patrol]

Maybe next week

[dapper summit]

woaw a new support

i thought so

only 8

[peak escarp]

the next hero after that will be support too

[dapper summit]

thats good

[peak escarp]

yeah

[dapper summit]

i wonder what the concepts are

[keen summit]

im just sad cuz it seems like theyll do like rama just origin story instead of teasers

[hollow flicker]

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t the new support hero apart of MEKA?

[worthy rose]

They're not

[hollow flicker]

Like d.vas group thingy

Oof

[worthy rose]

They have said before that they're not planning to add more MEKA members

[hollow flicker]

Poopy

That would’ve been sick

[rare trail]

Also a meka support wouldn’t really make sense

[hollow flicker]

You right

[worthy rose]

And also because the MEKA squad pilots mechs, and they're all too big to be anything other than a tank

[rare trail]

Supports are supposed to be small

And dva was hell to code

[worthy rose]

They could still reuse a lot of code from D.va, but yeah

[grim pewter]

i want the push robot to be included in the lore

like as an actual character

not a playble one

just a character

it prolly wont happen but i hope it does

[nova cedar]

Plot twist im the new support

[twilit patrol]

You’re suppose to be dead

[nova cedar]

Don't worry about it

[iron plume]

No shitposting rule includes no RP

And yes, Mondatta is hella dead

[nova cedar]

I was messing about dw I'll change 😭

[iron plume]

The name itself is fine, just don't do the character as yourself thing

[nova cedar]

got it dw ty i didnt realize

[young lily]

Are there 3 doom fists

[peak escarp]

there were

Adhabu Ngumi, Akinjide Adeyemi and Akande Ogundimu

only the third is still alive

[wind portal]

from what we know Akande assassinated Akinjide correct?

or atleast, one of the two previous doomfists

[peak escarp]

yes

Akinjide was Akande's mentor

and then Akande killed him and took his title and gauntlet

[true locust]

What was the reason for Akande killing Akinjide?

[peak escarp]

he wanted a promotion

can't move up in the world if someone else has the job you want

[true locust]

I see

I read some of Sombra’s story on the official site and I’m curious as to what exposed Olivia Colomar to become Sombra and erase her previous life?

[peak escarp]

we don't know yet

it's one of the big mysteries in the lore

[true locust]

ah i see

thank you!

[true locust]

how come winston and ball dislike each other?

[peak escarp]

Hammond made the schematic for the escape pod that Winston used

Winston used it without permission and left without looking for Hammond

[true locust]

ohhh

that’s kinda messed up

[peak escarp]

Winston didn't know Hammond made it

he just found it on the base's computers

[true locust]

ohhh

thank you!

[raven mesa]

I thought the same

[true locust]

What exactly happened in Monte Cristi with baptiste that i think widow has a voiceline with him about

[peak escarp]

that's the mission where Baptiste ran away

we learn a bit about it through flashbacks in "What You Left Behind"

[true locust]

thank you!

[heavy pecan]

l

[rugged vault]

Idk he still should have looked for him

[peak escarp]

he should have

and that's why Hammond is angry at him

[rugged vault]

Seems kinda mean to not at least passively do so

[keen summit]

Tbf winston and hammond didnt really have a friendship or anything so he also didnt hace a reason to do so espec during what was happening at that time

[rugged vault]

I suppose

[keen summit]

It does annoy me that there are still 0 teasers. Please overwatch marketing stop with the battle mercy or bad widow posts and give us something of a teaser

[peak escarp]

they were friends

[keen summit]

Oh mb then

[peak escarp]

we don't know

we haven't had any new lore for him

[keen summit]

Hammond is like hanzo in that regard

[peak escarp]

yep

[keen summit]

I honestly also dont see how hammond could play into the main story tho

[peak escarp]

except we're getting new Hanzo lore soon

maybe one of the other short stories will be for Hammond

[keen summit]

Like hanzo atleast has that null sector is attacking there and hashimoto seems like ut could be connected to talon

[peak escarp]

https://www.amazon.ca/Overwatch-Heroes-Ascendant-Story-Collection/dp/195691630X

there's a collection of 8 short stories coming out

the short stories will probably be released for free one by one online like they have been in the past

[twilit patrol]

You thought or you hope ?

[keen summit]

ur internet

[raven mesa]

I hope

[twilit patrol]

Me too

[ivory garnet]

dont see why Kiriko would join OW

[rain shoal]

if they're free then why's there a listing for it in amazon? unless im dumb

[full compass]

Yoooo

Guys bout the overwatch lore

Who u think dying first

👀

[warm oriole]

i dont get why would would: ramatra,junkrat,junkerqeen,roadhog,sigma,widowmaker,sombra,reaper,casidy,ashe and moira would join overwatch

[full compass]

Cassidy was in ow

Wit soilder and Reyes

Or reaper

[ivory garnet]

ram, junkrat, junker queen, roadhog, sigma, widow, sombra, ashe were never in overwatch

[full compass]

I think I can’t remember

[worthy rose]

Of those, only Reaper and Cassidy was part of Overwatch. Reaper before he was "Reaper"

[full compass]

Moira was also in overwatch

[ivory garnet]

Cassidy was forced to choose life in jail or blackwatch

[full compass]

Moira and reaper both betrayed ow

[worthy rose]

She was in Blackwatch, I don't know if I should consider that part of Overwatch

[full compass]

It should

[warm oriole]

then why are they fighting with them

[full compass]

She turned Reyes into reaper

So

[ivory garnet]

pvp isnt canon

[full compass]

Sigmas apart of talon isn’t he?

[ivory garnet]

mhm

[full compass]

Yea I’m just getting into overwatch lore

But sombra it’s more of a anti hero

Not a villiab

[ivory garnet]

so is sombra, widow, moira

and reaper

[full compass]

Sombra my wife bruh

Don’t ever diss her frl

[worthy rose]

I like Sombra in lore

[full compass]

I love her period

[warm oriole]

does it make scence lorewise for overwatch 2 to not have pve

[worthy rose]

No that's just a design choice at the moment

[warm oriole]

yes but it bad

[twilit patrol]

We see that

[full compass]

Sh

😭😭😭

[warm oriole]

tf2 lore has robots and pve

overwatch kopied that but not pve

[worthy rose]

This game does as well. There's just not any PvE available right now

[twilit patrol]

I agree

[worthy rose]

We've had several smaller PvE things before, and we'll get the PvE that Overwatch 2 was marketed to be all about

[warm oriole]

what is better tf2 or overwatch 2 focus on 2 in overwatch 2

[worthy rose]

I think Overwatch 2 is better just because it's more fun to play in my opinion

I don't really care about the whole "It's not a sequel" thing because it doesn't matter

[warm oriole]

i think tf2 is more fun to play

[celest hazel]

I think we figured that out

[warm oriole]

kinda meant the sequel is a cash grab

[twilit patrol]

I consider Overwatch 2 as a sequel

[warm oriole]

i think the f2p is a nice touch

[worthy rose]

Not really. It's F2P, so you're the one that decides whether or not you want to spend money

[celest hazel]

And even then, you can get enough coins within a season to buy BP and then some

[rare trail]

i thought bp couldnt be bought with the free credits

[celest hazel]

Microsoft rewards

I've got like 3.6k coins thanks to it lol

[twilit patrol]

Hmm ?

[celest hazel]

Not including buying BP from last season and this season, so really 5.6k

[rare trail]

ok cool

not really the plcae to talk about that though

[celest hazel]

Cool

[twilit patrol]

This is what i meant

[celest hazel]

Blame bacon

😛

[rare trail]

theres more than one person to blame but ok

[celest hazel]

Let me change the subject then

Who has the best backstory?

[rare trail]

i like sigmas

[celest hazel]

Solid choice

[twilit patrol]

I choose Rein

(Not only because i'm rein main)

[opaque scroll]

I choose Rein

(Mostly because I'm a rein main)

[peak escarp]

Cassidy has already rejoined Overwatch