lore-discussion

[twilit patrol]

Hmm

[quiet rune]

but this isnt arm wrestle tho

[rare trail]

a rein zarya comic or smth about reformed overwatch could be cool

[worthy rose]

arm wrestling doesn't mean you are stronger if you win

[rare trail]

yeah but it shows their strength kinda

[quiet rune]

ye

[quiet rune]

i guess

SO, ITS BETWEEN:

• Reinhardt
• Zarya
• Doomfist

[worthy rose]

and torb

[quiet rune]

...

[rare trail]

?

[worthy rose]

wait wouldn't hog be strong too

[twilit patrol]

Winton is stronger

[rare trail]

oh yeah\

winston strong

[twilit patrol]

Yea

Winton

But not stronger than Rein

Don't tell me

[worthy rose]

hog would be powerfull aswell

[twilit patrol]

Because he's big ?

[worthy rose]

Winston uses a suit and no equipment allowed so

[twilit patrol]

Wtf you say ''suit''

[quiet rune]

naked monke

[rare trail]

winstons suit isnt shown to enhance his strength

gorillas are just strong in generall

[twilit patrol]

Yes

[worthy rose]

true

[twilit patrol]

But

He's not gorillas

He's a scientist

[worthy rose]

no he is monke

anyways

[twilit patrol]

A scientist

[worthy rose]

i said it for the meme

[twilit patrol]

[tardy tusk]

it can be, @upbeat thistle claimed that her looks were like that because of temps in Australia, i didnt/dont agree

so it is lore related

[upbeat thistle]

look at roadhog and junkrat lol

[worthy rose]

ah shi here we go again

[tardy tusk]

and?

[upbeat thistle]

idk

mei appears to have clothing for the cold

[tardy tusk]

mhm

[upbeat thistle]

look at junker queens cinematic

everyone there is dressed the same

[tardy tusk]

do ppl in middle east look like JQ

no

[upbeat thistle]

its also probably torn apart because junker town is made of scraps in the wastelands due to omnics

[upbeat thistle]

does anyone in the real world look like any overwatch character?

[rare trail]

middle east =/= overwatch's australia

[tardy tusk]

but the temps

are similar

[rare trail]

you dont know that

[tardy tusk]

i do

[rare trail]

what temp is it rn in junkertown?

[tardy tusk]

looking at the heat haze

[rare trail]

you dont really know what temperature it is there

[tardy tusk]

idk, but its similar to the middle east irl

[rare trail]

you dont know thta

[upbeat thistle]

pretty sure the inside of junker town is like an incinerator

[tardy tusk]

looking at their skin, and at other tips, I do

and if it was hotter

they still wouldnt be wearing that

[rare trail]

you're just guessing that its the same as middle east

[tardy tusk]

no

im not

[upbeat thistle]

cass is shown with a cape for sandstorms because hes in the desert mei has a whole snow outfit because its cold doomfist has barely clothing on because hes from also a warm country

why would junker queen be wearing hoodies?

[rare trail]

like jqs outfit makes sense because its hot in junkertown

the middle east isnt the only hot place on earth

[upbeat thistle]

^^

[tardy tusk]

some parts of but others certainly dont

[upbeat thistle]

literally every character has an outfit that relates to their past and place theyre from

[rare trail]

what parts dont?

[tardy tusk]

in a game brb

[upbeat thistle]

lore says junker queen grew up poor and in the wastelands + its hot in there it only makes sense for her to wear ripped short clothing

[rare trail]

yeah its just a part of her style and practical bc its hot in junkertown

[upbeat thistle]

yeah

hes referring to her cleavage goose

hes not familiar with an actual design and stuff

also if you look at any of the other junker chars you can clearly see their outfits are made out of scrap

it wouldnt make sense for junker queen to wear a whole fashion dress thats brand new out of packaging

[tardy tusk]

incorrect, her wastelander skin, is actually normal

but her skin when she's THE QUEEN

is suddenly alot diffrent

[upbeat thistle]

culture??

[tardy tusk]

she took of her normal shorts, removed her leather jacket to expose her cleavage+ torn shirt

[tardy tusk]

yes, she's pretty cultured hahahaa

[twilit patrol]

I should never have said that

[tardy tusk]

looking at the king before her, he didnt wear any ripped clothes

[rare trail]

yeah

he was not drippy

she is

her outfit is better

[tardy tusk]

with alot more skin exposed due to her unique culture?

[rare trail]

yeah

[upbeat thistle]

yeah

[rare trail]

it gets hot in junkertown

[upbeat thistle]

its what you call a design lol

[rare trail]

and its a part of her style

[upbeat thistle]

hes forgetting she wasnt even in junker town in her original outfit ☠️

she was a wastelander

then she came into junker town

☠️

[tardy tusk]

because her mother was alteast wearing some a proper skirt, not some ripped very short shorts

[upbeat thistle]

i dont think hes listening goose

[upbeat thistle]

what?

[rare trail]

again

her mother wasnt drippy

she is

[tardy tusk]

yeah, her wastelander is decent,

but she becomes queen, and starts wearing ripped clothes exposing alot of skin

[tardy tusk]

well, you can assume what you want

[rare trail]

yeah

thats a part of her style

[tardy tusk]

as you can see, her mother wears a skirt, not some ripped shorts

[rare trail]

yeah

thye have different styles

[tardy tusk]

or, its blizzard sexualizing again

[rare trail]

a character enjoying wearing ripped clothing =/= sexualization

[tardy tusk]

I should go to school in undies and say, its part of my style lmao

[rare trail]

also her mother isnt wearing a skirt shes just wearing a shirt and pants

[tardy tusk]

if its a video game character, and looking at JQ, it is

[rare trail]

its just a style

[tardy tusk]

ok what ever, its not ripped and super short like JQ

[rare trail]

yeah

she isnt jq

[tardy tusk]

blizzard, dressed up her to sexualize her a bit to get more ppl hyped

[upbeat thistle]

alright if you wanna dive in deep

[tardy tusk]

pretty simple

[upbeat thistle]

junker queen now is 35+

in that shes like 12

[tardy tusk]

mhm

[rare trail]

is her family all dead?

[upbeat thistle]

yea

[twilit patrol]

Yes

All of them

Expect JQ right

[upbeat thistle]

this image is before the ALF was formed

thats why theyre in proper clothing

theres ur answer lol

[rare trail]

yeah

[tardy tusk]

she still has proper clothing when she arrives to challenge the king

[rare trail]

they werent drippy yet

[rare trail]

ok?

she got access to more clothing given she became the queen

[tardy tusk]

so, it doesnt make sense lore wise

[rare trail]

she likes ripped clothing

so it does make sense

wearing ripped clothing isnt conflicting with any piece of the lore

[tardy tusk]

and she chose a ripped shirt, ripped short shorts
its blizzard sexualizing it bud

r ppl rlly this oblivious

[rare trail]

ripped shirt and ripped shorts could just be her style that doesnt conflict with the lore

also even if blizzard is just sexualizing her that doesnt make it conflicting with the lore anyways

[tardy tusk]

it is, why would she wear worse clothes when she's queen? why would she wear such a revealing shirt?

[quiet rune]

✨ global warming ✨ + ✨ nuclear radiation ✨

[tardy tusk]

it would be possible but unlikley

[rare trail]

because she likes that style

[tardy tusk]

dont try to join in, you've missed to much

[tardy tusk]

because blizzard knows hot character = more money from skins

[rare trail]

even if blizzard is just sexualizing her that doesnt conflict with the lore

nothing we know about jq shows her to hate ripped clothing or hate "revealing" shirts

[tardy tusk]

makes it very unlikley but possinl

[rare trail]

its not very unlikely

its literally shown

thats the clothes she wears

[tardy tusk]

in game

[rare trail]

thats the clothes she wears

all base skins are canon

[quiet rune]

• poncho

[upbeat thistle]

yes

[rare trail]

she has worn some different things in the past

[quiet rune]

Umm, she had to fight omnics on the daily, so she suffered the hotness and when she is queen she can relax a bit

[rare trail]

living in the wasteland and living in junkertown are pretty different things that would require different outfits

i agree

[wind portal]

you know that explains the fans that are everywhere in junkertown

it's hot so they need fans to cool down

[rare trail]

yeah i imagine the air conditioning there is excellent

[quiet rune]

you can alt click = and get ≠

[quiet rune]

No longer lore. pls leave

[quiet rune]

ALF?

[upbeat thistle]

aussie liberation front

[quiet rune]

now your sounding like a snobby old white man lol

[quiet rune]

👏👏👏

[quiet rune]

👏 NOT 👏 LORE 👏

[quiet rune]

I was here at the begining bitch, + I have eyes, and can read

[wind portal]

gotta love trolls

anyways, Junker Queen's current outfit makes sense for the location she's in

[quiet rune]

Ah

?

[tardy tusk]

I love false assumptions

[twilit patrol]

?

[tardy tusk]

like who doesnt

[tardy tusk]

uhh haven't i told you

this isnt your buisness

[tardy tusk]

but I just want to know do you thing that JQ base skin (not wastelander) is a bit sexualized or no

[grand wedge]

Keep it lore related here folks, or go relocated somewhere else please... this is not the place for youyr antics

[tardy tusk]

it is lore related, and im not going to explain, scroll up if intrested

[rare trail]

this isnt the place to talk about that

[twilit patrol]

Was it necessary?

[tardy tusk]

it is. Is it sexualized or because of lore

her base skin

[quiet rune]

I’m not assuming dipshit, I’m saying that’s what you’d sound like

[tardy tusk]

pretty simple question

[rare trail]

it being sexualized isnt a part of the lore

[quiet rune]

Why u say “bitch”?

[tardy tusk]

Insults, and thats your opinion then

[tardy tusk]

Thanks

[twilit patrol]

You said that in first, no ?

[quiet rune]

Yes it is, I’m on this server

[tardy tusk]

happy that atleast one person can realize

[grand wedge]

@quiet rune ALF stands for "Australian Liberation Front" that was a militia during the Omnic Crisis where King Howl, Roadhog and also JQ father were part of.

[tardy tusk]

it would be part if you had been part of the convo the entire time

[quiet rune]

We are trying to have lore antics lol

[tardy tusk]

you keep popping in and saying irrelvant stuff

[quiet rune]

Yes, it felt good. Helped me release some annoyance towards him

[tardy tusk]

but we can end, I'm content

[twilit patrol]

I see that. But we have to stay in lore.

[quiet rune]

So why are we talking about it ???

[twilit patrol]

Because i said ''JQ is very sexy''

Look @quiet rune

[quiet rune]

Ah right

[quiet rune]

I was, left, came back, and caught my self up, buffoon

[quiet rune]

Thank god

[twilit patrol]

Yes, we're all on this server

[quiet rune]

lol

[twilit patrol]

It's funny you think ?

I do

[quiet rune]

Therefore he cannot tell me I can’t partake in the convo

[quiet rune]

Ye

I was here at the beginning

It has dissolved into chaos

[twilit patrol]

March 2 2023 ?

oh

[quiet rune]

I’m suprised the mods didn’t get involved lol

[twilit patrol]

[quiet rune]

[upbeat thistle]

☠️

[quiet rune]

[twilit patrol]

[upbeat thistle]

[twilit patrol]

[upbeat thistle]

[twilit patrol]

How we spell his name ?

[upbeat thistle]

winton

[twilit patrol]

Exactly

[upbeat thistle]

Winton

[twilit patrol]

Winton

[tardy tusk]

i thought it ended no? want to continue?

[twilit patrol]

Guys stop

[tardy tusk]

i stopped

they baited

[twilit patrol]

You both try to continue

Keep smiling

[quiet rune]

Ive stopped, now you have re-instigated

[twilit patrol]

Oh no please

[quiet rune]

but I aint taking your bait

because i have more than 2 IQ

[twilit patrol]

Nice

[quiet rune]

TY

I try

[tardy tusk]

I stopped, announced I stopped, you continued, @twilit patrol didnt say anything, i reply to you, and @twilit patrol tells me to stop

that is undeniable

so, can we both agree to stop here and now? or do you want to continue?

bro, explain when I stop, and some one continues, you didn't do anything, but when I reacted to that continuation, only then you tell us both to stop

[tardy tusk]

I stop

[tardy tusk]

1

[tardy tusk]

2

[tardy tusk]

3

[tardy tusk]

here is were i reacted to those

[tardy tusk]

and only here

you tell us both to stop

but not in 1 2 3

[peak escarp]

how about you all stop and go back to discussing the lore

[tardy tusk]

I'd like to, but last time i tried, they kept instigating, I then replied with

[peak escarp]

I don't care

[tardy tusk]

thi

[tardy tusk]

What does that matter?

i'm not in the wrong here, but you don't care?

[peak escarp]

why should I?

[tardy tusk]

so that you can help resolve correctly

and not blame the wrong person

[peak escarp]

this is a channel for discussing lore, not for petty squabbles

I'm not blaming anyone

I don't care who started it, I'm ending it

[tardy tusk]

you should be, because I stopped

[peak escarp]

clearly you didn't because you're still going

[tardy tusk]

scroll up for more context

[limpid agate]

I hope we get something lore related this season

Before the hero reveal

If they return to form with the hero tweets, that would be nice

[peak escarp]

I'm hoping the presence of the Polar skins means PvE is coming soon

[limpid agate]

I dont think it will be

[peak escarp]

"soon"

like, season 5

[worthy rose]

Please. I love all the PvE they've done so far, and I need more of it

[peak escarp]

or maybe just a new mission for Archives

[timid minnow]

I think we are getting a new mode for season 5

I would guess pve comes out season 7

[twilit patrol]

And i guess season 4

[upbeat thistle]

[peak escarp]

[quiet rune]

Me too

[limpid agate]

@timid minnow Yeah, those are solid guesses.

We were told we would get a new game mode with multiple maps, season 5 is a good time for that

And Season 7 is the last chance for PvE since 4/6/8 are hero seasons

And I highly doubt that they'll drop PvE in a hero season

[twilit patrol]

I agree with you

[peak escarp]

it's not impossible for PvE to be in a hero season

[limpid agate]

Its not impossible

[peak escarp]

but I agree it is unlikely

[limpid agate]

But I think its unlikely

[peak escarp]

we're really guessing in the dark here

I wonder when we'll start getting the short stories listed in that new anthology

I don't even like Hanzo, but I'm looking forward to the first new lore for him in 7 years

[limpid agate]

I was hoping we would have gotten one by now

But its been silent this season

[timid minnow]

I’m hoping for an animated short with the three shimadas teaming up on the Hashimotos

[twilit patrol]

In the campaign i guess

[limpid agate]

Yeah thats definitely not happening any time soon

And even if it were, it would be boring

We've seen Hanzo and Kiriko singlehandedly deal with Hashimotos multiple times now

[worthy rose]

Did soldier and mercy ever meet

[rare trail]

yeah

[peak escarp]

they were in Overwatch together, and they met most recently in Valkyrie

[worthy rose]

Oh cause I never hear them talk to each other in game

[worthy rose]

Ok but can rammatra twerk

[rare trail]

he probably can but he wouldnt

[worthy rose]

This is so sad

[worthy rose]

Yea but all 3 would look dope

[robust tartan]

Wait there’s lore to overwatch???

[twilit patrol]

Yes, what do you think ?

[robust tartan]

I thought it was just like a fighting game idk

Is the lore important

[rare trail]

in pve it probably will be

lore is just important to the story but theres no story to the pvp so

[robust tartan]

Wait so I need to know the lore of every single hero….?

[twilit patrol]

No

[robust tartan]

OHHH okay good

[twilit patrol]

Not all

[rare trail]

the main lore only really involves a handful of heroes

[robust tartan]

Okay I understand if ppl wanna know the ow lore but I just lowkey won’t care for it. Idc if one of the characters is some like super evil mf. If I’m good w them then I’m playing them

[limpid agate]

Then why are you in this channel

[twilit patrol]

[robust tartan]

Cuz I didn’t realize there was more

Lore**

[peak escarp]

you just said you didn't care about lore

[gritty yarrow]

i read something about the new support being named roza, and will have a smoke grenade and stationary healing drones

[worthy rose]

Where did you read this

[gritty yarrow]

reddit

[worthy rose]

Ah...

[peak escarp]

it's fake

[worthy rose]

I assume that as well

[twilit patrol]

What ?

Huh ?

[peak escarp]

this isn't the place for fanfic

[twilit patrol]

[rare sundial]

[gray kayak]

This chat is specifically for lore discussion. Warnings are being sent out to the appropriate people. Continued misuse of this channel will result in a mute.

[lucid furnace]

which ow character would hate omnics the most ?

[worthy rose]

Not sure for the most, but Junker Queen is up there

[peak escarp]

the Junkers

hating omnics is basically part of their culture

also Zarya's country is currently at war with omnics

[quiet rune]

Dva, Reinhardt, Zarya, and JQ

Because they fought them on the (near) daily

[rare trail]

dva and rein havent been shown to hate omnic

[peak escarp]

if D.Va hates them, it would be the Gwishin specifically

Reinhardt fought omnics a long time ago

we do see his reaction to seeing Bastion, but he hesitates when Bastion doesn't fight back

which would indicate that he doesn't hate Bastion

[rare trail]

i dont think any playable character is romantically involved with any other playable character

besides for maybe genji and mercy

[quiet rune]

Jack x Gabriel

/j

[twilit patrol]

Just no

[quiet rune]

That’s why this

[twilit patrol]

I know

[hallow shuttle]

hanzossidy

[ivory garnet]

neither have them meet eachother

fan ships are so bad

Reinhardt and Winston would just violate laws
Jack x Reyes makes no sense
Hanzo x Cassidy makes no sense as well

[tidal cave]

where can I find the comic/short story or whatever on reinhardt meeting bastion

[peak escarp]

it's a cutscene that hasn't been released yet

you can see it in the Blizzconline 2021 panel

[brisk aspen]

Cassidy lore ?

[ivory garnet]

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/heroes/cassidy/

thats the basis of it ^^^

Add ons;
He was the bodyguard for Echo’s creator, Dr Mina Liao

which is most probably why Echo and Cassidy share a good friendship with eachother

[wind wind]

give me some sombra lore

[ivory garnet]

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/heroes/sombra/

u can also watch her origin story

[austere agate]

does kiriko not know that genji is alive?

[wind wind]

pretty sure theres little lore for kirko

if she even knows he killed genji at all

[austere agate]

true, I hope we learn more about her

I wonder if she’ll be in any of the PvE missions

[ivory garnet]

not sure, not likely tho

[ivory garnet]

not likely aswell, unless they expand on Hanzo’s upcoming short story

[austere agate]

that’s sad

[quiet rune]

I expect the PvE to continue to expand, because the Shimada(?) are still a likley villain in the overwatch lore

[ivory garnet]

Shimada arent even around anymore

[quiet rune]

I knew that I just dont remember who took them over lol

thats why I put a ? after it

[ivory garnet]

no one took them over, Overwatch took them down and the Hashimoto ruled over Kanezaka

Main villain organizations shown are Talon and Null Sector

which is what the PvE will be based off of rn

[quiet rune]

I guess thats what I meant yea

[ivory garnet]

and Hanzo’s upcoming short story is Null Sector based ^^

[quiet rune]

What I meant was after the Null Sector PvE, then the Talon PvE, it is somewhat likely they will expand it for more villians such as the Hashimoto, which would involve Kiriko, but that is pretty far down the line

[quiet rune]

So no Kiriko >:[

[ivory garnet]

The description says “and he meets a familiar face”

So its most likely Kiriko

[ivory garnet]

Talon downfall will be the last “arc”

if they were to include the Hashimoto, it’d be between Null Sector and Talon

[quiet rune]

Oh

:0

:)

[quiet rune]

ye

[ivory garnet]

o As Null Sector drop pods rain down on Tokyo, Hanzo hears the ghost of his father—and meets with a familiar face—in an electrifying tale by E.C. Myers.

[grand wedge]

I really wonder how they will deliver those short stories… with an IG event like before or some PvE attached to it? (Probably better to keep the expectations low but who knows… I’m not against a 2player mission as Hanzo and Kiriko going to free Kiriko father from the Hashimoto or something)

[warped latch]

p sure they're gonna be similar to previous events we'd had like junkenstein's revenge and uprising etc

deliver a cutscene at the start, players choose their characters, and then a cutscene afterward

[wind wind]

why does echo sound so different compared to the video

[frosty gale]

echo has had muliple voice actor changes i believe. her voice change is not canon to the lore

i think

[limpid agate]

Its not

[wind wind]

Why was it changed?

I love the first better ngl

[iron plume]

Actor availability, most likely

[quiet rune]

Also the actor may not have wanted to be involved with Blizzards issues

[gritty yarrow]

i mean it could be easily added though as she is a robot just put in somewhere somehow her voice modulator was damaged and needed replaced etc

[limpid agate]

That was 2 years before that

[quiet rune]

oh

idk

[rain shoal]

Is Talon anti-omnic to some extent at least?
Not only did Widow assassinate one of the most important omnic figures in the world but iirc Doomfist held a speech in the Orisa novel in numbani saying that living peacefully with omnics is making numbani and it’s people weaker.
Though Maximilian being one of their inner council members kinda of contradicts that, I assume for this reason that they only just want to create tension between omnics and humans to create a war and Ramattra is gonna grant their wish in the PvE

[wind portal]

I wouldn't say talon in itself is anti-omnic, Doomfist is just hitting points where he believes would drive humanity to war faster

killing Mondatta started the whole anti-omnic campaign in King's Row

[limpid agate]

Talon isn't anti Omnic

Doomfist believes that humanity evolves best through conflict

And so he wants to ignite a spark between omnics and humans so that humanity can evolve and grow past it

He is helping Ramattra start that war.

[quiet rune]

"Only through conflict, can humanity evolve"

[quiet rune]

"Helping" by instigating

[limpid agate]

Helping by helping

He's working with Ramattra

[quiet rune]

Oh

I didn’t know that

[knotty relic]

How did Orisa scare doom out from numbani isn’t he the talon leader

[peak escarp]

she was able to fight back against him

[knotty relic]

I didn’t know she was that strong I thought doomfist would destroy her

[peak escarp]

she was built specifically to beat him

[knotty relic]

I didn’t know that but alr

Who is strongest lore wise?

[rare trail]

winston orisa sym and sigma

[knotty relic]

I didn’t know sym was strong

[rare trail]

hardlight

just like

she can build stuff

like green lantern

[knotty relic]

Ok

[twilit patrol]

Sigma.

[rare trail]

he doesnt really have feats though

its just kinda guessing

[lucid iris]

Vincent next hero plz

[peak escarp]

Vincent is a nobody

[lucid iris]

Nah

[dreamy epoch]

hmm

it only took until halfway through season 3 to get back the lore descriptions

I love these devs and this game!! 🙂

[merry mason]

Everybody’s a nobody until they become somebody

[peak escarp]

curious. All the surveillance power in the world. I bet Gabe
would have put a Blackwatch agent on him if you asked,”
Ana said.
Jack glared at her.
“Okay, touchy subject.”
Jack laughed. “He got married. They’re very happy. I’m
happy for him.”```

[young lily]

How tf does junkrat control his tire

also wasn’t he a scientist or something before

[rare trail]

riptire isnt canon

wdym "before"

before what?

[peak escarp]

Junkrat is 25 - the omnium detonation happened when he was a child

[last tapir]

How old are they all in this? Just curious if anyone knew

Since there's a 15-20 year age gap?

[rare trail]

kiriko is 24 genji is 35 and hanzo is 38

in that pic

uhh

[young lily]

3, 11, 14

[warped latch]

kiriko is prolly like 4 there

[peak escarp]

my best guess is Kiriko is 5, Genji is 16, Hanzo is 19

[warped latch]

Oh

[last tapir]

OKAY TY

Imo kiriko was such a forced in character

She does not fit

[peak escarp]

how so?

[rare trail]

is it like public information that genji shimada is alive

[warped latch]

I don’t think so?

[rare trail]

huh

kiriko probably thinks hes dead then

although zero hour was very public so she probably wouldve put that together

[austere agate]

but you don’t see genjis face so unless they like release their names

hanzo fought against genji without realizing it was him

[rare trail]

the green spirit dragon gives it away though

[austere agate]

I suppose you’re right

I hope the three of them get a reunion

[rare trail]

yeah that would be nice

maybe hanzo short story will have smth about it

[ivory garnet]

present day yes, in that pic no

[ivory garnet]

nope

maybe Hanzo and (Kiriko) talk abt it in his short story

[rare trail]

i mean they probably both know hes alive

[ivory garnet]

Hanzo yes, Kiriko is uncertain

they have so much they can cover in hanzo’s short story

so we’ll see

[white cobalt]

oh wait, they added their bio back?

although i dont like it much how it is presented

[peak escarp]

a while ago

[wind wind]

unknown if kirko even knows hanzo killed him

[flat canopy]

She knows..💀

[wind wind]

she does?

is there a voiceline?

[peak escarp]

we don't know if she knows

[ivory garnet]

its likely she knows genji is “dead”

[wind wind]

maybe

but what from little lore we have of her theres a huge time gap between when they last talked

[topaz fiber]

who is jack morrison?

i keep seeing that name everywhere in overwatch

[rain shoal]

solider 76 before he "died"

[ivory garnet]

Jack Morrison is Soldier 76’s “real” name

but Jack isnt his name iirc

[peak escarp]

his full name is John Francis Morrison

nicknamed Jack

[maiden granite]

how old is lucio

[grand wedge]

In his mid twenties

They got rid of heroes age with the new biographies so…

[keen summit]

we also dont know if we should add age now or what

26 from what we know

but yknow, google exists

[rugged vault]

NLE Choppa said that something is gonna happen today

[keen summit]

who?

[wooden cove]

💀

[lone lagoon]

ok correct me if i’m wrong but mercy doesn’t age right

due to her science or something?

[keen summit]

No?

Where did ya get that from

[wind portal]

mercy ages normally

so does tracer and mei

[viscid flame]

Yea the only (presumably) immortal characters are Omnics, but that's only if they aren't killed or otherwise damaged in bad environments

[lone lagoon]

i saw it in a mercy lore tiktok 😭

[wind portal]

yeah don't trust tiktoks

[keen summit]

yeah those are often wrong

she COULD be possibly do it but she doesnt

[knotty scarab]

I’m pretty sure it was on her fandom wiki page also

Though it’s mentioned “its possible that effects included slowing/halting the aging process”

[limpid agate]

Thanks for letting me know

I've removed that part from the wiki

She ages normally

[queen sable]

Alright hear me out

I wanna see something with reaper and junkrat together

Wether against one another or a team doesn’t matter it would be hella funny

[keen summit]

I cant see it happen at all but yeah would be a comedic ride

[hasty drum]

is it true that doomfist had a dance battle against sigma?

[limpid agate]

No, its not true.

Do not shitpost misinformation

The first step is to be a mod.

[twilit patrol]

Yeah maybe

[limpid agate]

You dont need to ping reply every time

[twilit patrol]

[hasty drum]

so doomfist didn’t have a dance battle against sigma?

[twilit patrol]

No?

[limpid agate]

Of course he didnt

[hasty drum]

oh

ok cool

[worthy rose]

why would doomfist have a dance battle with sigma

[junior ridge]

Why wouldn't he

How would they know who is stronger

[hasty drum]

to have fun

[wet raven]

terrorists need to have fun every once in a while

[empty harness]

[icy mango]

ok i got some loot box lore there actcully a new charter

frfr

[peak escarp]

making stuff up can get you banned

[past copper]

I mean, the number of people in here who make stuff up…

You really think they care if they get banned?

I chalk it up to people who just don’t care bout lore or are too impatient to wait for the story

[hushed cape]

Does Reaper have a love interest?

[peak escarp]

he had a wife

she thinks he's dead

[hushed cape]

And a son too

[austere agate]

the BAMF on cassidy’s belt buckle

stands for bad ahh mf?

[peak escarp]

yea

[austere agate]

tough

I like how it changes with his skins as well

[rare trail]

when is that shown?

i thought in reflections the son was the new husbands

[ivory garnet]

yeah cassidy’s beach skins means “sexy ass mf”

[austere agate]

is that confirmed tho

could be swimming ass mf

[peak escarp]

or sandy ass

[austere agate]

lol

[peak escarp]

Reyes' son is mentioned in Code of Violence

he's the right age

[gloomy bronze]

HELP I GOT BANNED FOR SAYING GG 5 TIMES I WAS JUST BEING NICE

[past copper]

Wrong place

And probably not telling the truth

[golden oak]

Doomfist is from Numbani???

[worthy rose]

This is cap

[rare trail]

i dont think he is

hes from nigeria iirc

is numbani in nigeria

i forgor

[golden oak]

Theres a Baptiste quote there saying doomfist is from there, i think it’s new too

[minor nexus]

i am new to overwatch and don’t know a lot of the lore can someone explain to me how zarya and sombra are enemies

[rare trail]

sombra does a little trolling to vishkar

zarya is an employee of vishkar

[golden oak]

Numbani is a city in Nigeria just checked

[minor nexus]

Ohh ty

[golden oak]

No? Zarya works for volskaya afaik

[rare trail]

oh yea

i forgor

i keep messing that up

[golden oak]

Also, Moira must be well respected in talon since she calls doomfist by his first name and not boss like Sombra

Do we know what she does there exactly?

[peak escarp]

she does science

she's also a Talon council member

[half wraith]

Who’s that dude left of doomfist

[rare trail]

sanjay

[peak escarp]

Sanjay Korpal

[rare trail]

vishkar guy

[peak escarp]

Symmetra's boss

[half wraith]

Ok

[quiet rune]

:0

Who would have guessed that the elitist perfectionist was a bad guy?

[half orchid]

Does Sym want to leave Vishkar?

[half orchid]

Unethical science alongside being potentially ableist as a result

[peak escarp]

what

how is Moira ableist?

[peak escarp]

she still believes they're making the world a better place... but she's starting to have doubts

[half orchid]

I just have that feeling she is, because of her unethical experimentation and specific lines that cement my feeling

[dense nebula]

Well your feelings don’t make things canon

[peak escarp]

you can't base things off a feeling

[fringe solstice]

hmm... whatever happened to mason howl

[half orchid]

Prolly got yeeted from Junkertown out of revenge when the Junker Queen started ruling

[ivory garnet]

that did happen

[flat canopy]

Why is lore accurate doomfist so strong but in game hes kinda booty ::

[warped latch]

It’s like when you beat a boss in a video game and it becomes a playable character xD completely nerfed

[fringe solstice]

I know that happened cuz of the post credits cutscene but like WHAT HAPPENED after that

[half orchid]

High chance he died, be it killed by someone or starvation

[fringe solstice]

Sadness

I was hoping there might be more to it

Kinda felt bad for him

[half orchid]

He did inadvertantly cause Junker Queen's family to die

and was the man who threw them out for whatever reason

[fringe solstice]

Still

[half orchid]

I don't sympathize with Junkers

[wind wind]

erm

why would u feel bad

[half orchid]

Yeah

They're Junkers

[wind wind]

he rigged the arena for the throne

he was a terrible leader who didnt care about his people

said it himself

[half orchid]

Junkers tend to cheat, hate things that were never really hurting them in the modern day, and do more harm than good

[wind wind]

I wasnt agreeing with u

I love junkers

[half orchid]

Same here

I love Junkers and their style but I don't like their culture and tendency to do stuff like crime and such

I've never seen a Junker, save for Junker Queen, have some awareness of law

[ivory garnet]

there is no law in the outback

Australia kinda abandoned it

and the only criminals that are junkers are Junkrat and Roadhog

Junkers are quite civilized people, they have their own laws and such

[warped latch]

theyre so real for that

[hasty drum]

remember that one time where

[half orchid]

Too bad they hate Omnics despite the omnics who took over the bushlands not being every other Omnic in the world

[ivory garnet]

they hate omnics cuz it fucked up their lives due to the omnium explosion

[half orchid]

It wasn't even the Omnic's fault

didn't the junkers destroy that Omnium themselves?

[ivory garnet]

they’ll most likely lighten up

no

[half orchid]

oh

[ivory garnet]

they built Junkertown out of the omnium

[half orchid]

ohhhhh

I do hope Ramattra lightens up since he is rather nice to some of the human characters, though people like Pharah tend to assume he'll use their tech for themselves and not because Ramattra is curious like fucking hell Pharah just answer him and stop trying to hide your mommy issues

[ivory garnet]

Ramattra will most likely be imprisoned

[half orchid]

Yeah...

the Null Sector Skin for Orisa looks nice tho

[ivory garnet]

very

we know they’re still active

OR-14s that is

[warped latch]

if omnics potentially don't have a 'lifespan' i wonder how exactly they'd imprison ramattra

just like any human? maybe create an algorithm to trap him in instead of outright deactivation?

[ivory garnet]

just keep him in a cell

[warped latch]

i suppose. seems like a pointless punishment for a sentient machine though

[ivory garnet]

it still gives them bare minimum freedom

[ivory garnet]

theres also a bastion unit

[austere agate]

are human and omnic romantic relationships a thing?

[warped latch]

i think that was implied in 'Alive'? could be wrong

[austere agate]

yea that’s what it seems like

wanted to know if dva x bob is a real possibility

[warped latch]

anything is possible. probable is what should be calculated.

[ivory garnet]

age gap would be questionable

possible 30 year old robot and a 19 year old girl

[warped latch]

thats true. but its not as if the omnics age, so at the same time, i wonder does it really matter? :o

[ivory garnet]

omnics are citizens

yes, age does matter most likely the same as humans

but overwatch isnt a romance genre, so we’ll never know

[warped latch]

i figure it'd apply as like characters that romance vampires/gods from other media idk. at a certain point it rlly doesnt mean anything cause the aging process doesn't affect them

would just be best for the human to be of appropriate age to pursue that kind of relationship

idk if that's like. a bad take. but just my immediate thought 😂

[austere agate]

that’s cute

makes me wonder who they boys father is but oh well

[peak escarp]

could be adopted

omnic children could be built for couples who can't have children biologically

[warped latch]

how do they grow up :(

[austere agate]

yea I just thought ab that

[peak escarp]

maybe they don't?

[austere agate]

is he gonna need like an upgrade lol

[peak escarp]

or maybe they can be upgraded to an adult body

[warped latch]

that seems uncanny, if they don't. upgraded would make sense

[peak escarp]

like that kid in AI: Artificial Intelligence

[warped latch]

what is that ?

oh a movie

[peak escarp]

https://youtu.be/_19pRsZRiz4

[warped latch]

oh man it looks so sad

[peak escarp]

wow that movie is 22 years old

I remember when it came out

[warped latch]

i don't wanna think abt sad omnic children 😂 but i think i'll give this movie a watch

[peak escarp]

for a happier take on robot children, try Robots [2005]
https://youtu.be/u8f5in2PU40

[austere agate]

I loved that movie

[peak escarp]

I think this version is more likely when it comes to omnic children

[austere agate]

I like that take

[warped latch]

i agree

[austere agate]

the sad thing about and omnic and human relationship is that the omnics don’t really age or die do they? unless killed obviously

so like the human in the relationship would eventually growl old and die

[warped latch]

maybe theyre like iphones and just get slower/update less frequently the older they get 😂

[austere agate]

true I guess they could be built with a life span

[hasty drum]

you guys remember that part when

[past copper]

Honestly, a good A.I. movie to consider is iRobot

[rain shoal]

they better get cooler designs cuz the OR-14 looks just like the ones in upsrising while the null troopers, slicers and detonators look radically different

[hasty drum]

remember when

[past copper]

I doubt we’ll see bastion or other old unites anymore aside from what we saw in the New Bloods comic

Though, I do think that was hinting at Null Sector potentially working with Gwishin

But that’s just a guess

[ivory garnet]

those are whole separate "drones" not "omnics"

and we've never seen an Omnic model get a redesign besides Or-15 -> Orisa iirc

[rain shoal]

IF the PvE comes by the end of 2023 then they probably should bring the archives event back even if it didnt have anything new since the winter and lunar events didnt have any new modes

[past copper]

Pretty sure the PvE is dropping around the Summer

Between that and the premier for Hazbin Hotel, I’m pretty hyped

But my point being, most good things come around between Spring and Summer

[brisk aspen]

Cassidy lore

[ivory garnet]

A founding member of the notorious Deadlock Gang, Cassidy was eventually coerced into joining Blackwatch, Overwatch’s covert-ops division. He came to believe he could make amends for his past by righting the world’s injustices. But when Overwatch fell, Cassidy went underground, resurfacing later as a gunslinger for hire, fighting only for causes he believes are just. (overwatch website)

[rain shoal]

i hope so though im afraid they might release it in blizzcon instead for maximum hype

[hasty drum]

yoo i remember when

[twilit patrol]

Greetings

[timid minnow]

Any ideas on next two support heroes?

[limpid agate]

The leading speculation for the next hero is a Peruvian character tied to the Collective

After that, here is my list of potential supports

Hamid Faisal - Can be any role
Nameless - Can be dps or support
Sanjay Korpal - Can be any role
Mohawk Guy - Can be any role
Kace - Can be dps or support
Sven - Can be any role
Analyst Nguyen - Can be dps or support

[upbeat basalt]

how heavy is zaryas gun?

[wind portal]

probably several hundred pounds

if not more

[upbeat basalt]

have we ever seen that impact her in combat? ik she has the strength to lift it but i think after a long time it would be too much no?

[old acorn]

no, she’s built different

lore confirmed

[opaque scroll]

i mean realistically it would but ow is ow

[golden oak]

How tall is Junker Queen?

[rare trail]

shes like as tall as rein iirc?

so like 7ish feet tall?

[golden oak]

Yeah but I meant actual height, game makes tanks higher than normal characters so they’re easier to hit

[rare trail]

that just means theyre taller though

like they make tanks taller when they design them

and dps shorter

besides for junkrat whos 6'1 but he slouches so it doenst matter

[golden oak]

What about doom

They increased his size after reworking him into a tank

[rare trail]

uhhh

cybernetics maybe

like new leg ones to make him taller

[golden oak]

[peak escarp]

we don't have any official heights for most of the heroes

[limpid spindle]

[low nova]

[worthy rose]

who would text 911

[peak escarp]

!!loreonly

[twilit nacelle]

This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[spice bramble]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1082601336534741004/1082665700528750642/wPL2WxjzxWzxQAAAABJRU5ErkJggg.png

ayy lore lovers is this canonically accurate

[limpid agate]

No

[fringe solstice]

Kind of facts

[limpid agate]

Ashe isn't filthy rich, she left her family decades ago

[ivory garnet]

not really

[limpid agate]

Junkerqueen isnt filthy rich, she's just the queen of Junkertown

Moira is not filthy rich either

If she was, she wouldn't need Talon's funding

[fringe solstice]

Who probably has money as a result of taxes

[limpid agate]

Its easier to list who in this list is accurate

[ivory garnet]

Junker Queen isnt affected by taxes

[fringe solstice]

I mean GETS taxes

Like receives

[limpid agate]

Doomfist is rich
Widowmaker is wealthy.
D.Va has good money
Junkrat, Roadhog, and Baptiste are poor
Zenyatta and Echo have no need for money
Bastion has no understanding of money

Everyone else is incorrect

Kiriko presumably has good money too, considering she can afford to rent an apartment by herself

Pharah, Zarya, and Sojourn might have good money too

But everyone else is objectively incorrect

[ivory garnet]

I’d say Mercy has good money too due to her being a world renown doctor

[limpid agate]

She doesnt

She's a world renown doctor who is tainted by the infamy of Overwatch

And she does humanitarian work

[ivory garnet]

ah true

[sudden sable]

didnt rat and hog rob the world

[limpid agate]

Yes

And they used the money to make a bomb

[spice bramble]

yeah thats the main thing I was concerned about

they probably lost it tbh

[sudden sable]

would soldier and sombra have money from blackmailing

soldier from good ow days

[limpid agate]

Soldier, of course not

He has no money

And Sombra doesnt seem to be hacking for wealth

Her home is pretty humble

[limpid agate]

And they used the money to make a bomb

[rare trail]

ram is pretty incorrect

hes def rich he needs to buy materials for omnics or smth

[peak escarp]

Talon gives him everything he needs

[rare trail]

i dont think lucio has good money

er wait im trolling

he def does

i forgor about the music career

[upbeat basalt]

is it likely that gwinshin, talon, and null sector will team up 🤯

[rare trail]

thats an interesting idea

would help dva get involved

[upbeat basalt]

imagine all 3 of them against overwatch

[ivory garnet]

DVA already is involved

and thats if they can find the Colossal Gwishin, which is underwater

[spice bramble]

junker queen commision him for mech stuff

[upbeat basalt]

woah, ive never heard of that

[upbeat basalt]

when is the colossal ever mentioned?

[ivory garnet]

More than two decades ago, South Korea was attacked by a colossal omnic monstrosity that rose from the depths of the East China Sea. The massive, lumbering construct caused catastrophic damage to coastal cities before it was driven back beneath the waves. In response, the South Korean government developed a mechanized armored drone unit, called MEKA, to protect urban environments in future engagements with the omnic threat.

[wind portal]

Haven't looked at the link yet but I'm assuming Hanzo would have a connection to get good money but is otherwise generally poor

[peak escarp]

Talon and Null Sector are already teamed up

Gwishin is unlikely

[upbeat basalt]

really? when

[ivory garnet]

since Storms Rising

back in ow1

[peak escarp]

Doomfist and Ramattra had a secret meeting at the end of the Storm Rising outro cutscene

https://youtu.be/6KbDuCl0YEU

[upbeat basalt]

ooooh yea

[peak escarp]

it took us 3 years to get his name

so glad we don't have to call him Null Hector anymore

[austere agate]

not gonna lie null hector sounds great

also kinda seems like tracer on her bike > kiriko on hers

[peak escarp]

at least we were right about him being the boss of Null Sector

[austere agate]

who is mercy talking about when she’s says she’d like an introduction

ram? or doom

[past copper]

Doomfist

Overwatch isn’t even aware of Ramattra’s existence

[rare trail]

i think its doom

it leads into dooms origin fight iirc

[ivory garnet]

doom

[upbeat basalt]

does anybody know what the words on anas gun mean on her cabana skin?

[ivory garnet]

is that her beach skin?

its most likely to do something with the beach

[young lily]

What is the name of the cinematic/ trailer/ vid where balderich has a message for rein

beyond the grave

[ivory garnet]

Honor and Glory

[wind wind]

that one was hot

sometimes i rewatch

[hasty drum]

yikes

[craggy thistle]

sup

i have a theory about the next hero but idk

[woeful herald]

K bet

[woeful herald]

Wat is it?

[craggy thistle]

ok um you know how junkrat is like "back to you Natasha!" in one of his lines in game ?

WELL

[woeful herald]

Yup

[craggy thistle]

what IF the next support is HER also in the baptiste he says thaat she is " the best in the outlands!!" so is NOT mercy

[woeful herald]

I think Natasha in Australia or during Christmas being born from Christ. So probably because junkrst is a dare devil, he obv “has meet” heaven or Natasha

I searched it btw

[craggy thistle]

HEAVEN

more support alegoris

[woeful herald]

Alegoris?

[craggy thistle]

yea like

he raletated to something

[woeful herald]

Allegory? I’m confused lol, like it’s a symbol?

[craggy thistle]

heaven is an "allegory" of support

so yea

a symbol

[woeful herald]

OH- I’m stupid lol

[craggy thistle]

is ok dw at all!

[woeful herald]

Actually that’s mercy🤓☝️

Nah I’m jking lol

[craggy thistle]

WAIT

[woeful herald]

GAME THEORY MOMENT

[craggy thistle]

oh nvm i was gonna say that if mercy's names IS Natasha but nha is Angela

[woeful herald]

XD

[craggy thistle]

lol yea love this xd

[ivory garnet]

next support is most likely from the Collective

[woeful herald]

collective?

[craggy thistle]

the wut

[ivory garnet]

group in Esperanca

[craggy thistle]

ohhhh that

yea could be

but idk

[ivory garnet]

https://overwatch.fandom.com/wiki/The_Collective

[craggy thistle]

i like Natasha more now loool

[woeful herald]

I heard rumors about someone from dvas team coming

[craggy thistle]

nop

[ivory garnet]

they said they arent doing anymore MEKA

[woeful herald]

😦

[peak escarp]

"Natasha" is just Junkrat goofing off pretending to be a reporter

[woeful herald]

: (

[craggy thistle]

sadly

[ivory garnet]

no not sadly

they’d all be way too similar

[woeful herald]

I beleive natasha is somewhere out there

[craggy thistle]

true

[woeful herald]

Maybe we can have another Aussie lol

[craggy thistle]

wanna bet

[woeful herald]

LOOK THERES NATASHA-

[peak escarp]

no need to bet

I know I'm right

[craggy thistle]

PLEASE

[woeful herald]

Lol

[ivory garnet]

next support is Sanjay or from the collective, i dont like the idea of Sanjay though

[craggy thistle]

WOW ok xd

[woeful herald]

K ima go to serious- Overwatch to prove brig is a good support

Cyaaa

[craggy thistle]

uhg i HATE THAT GUY is from talon and symettra's corp right?

[ivory garnet]

mhm

[craggy thistle]

yep

do not like him

[ivory garnet]

i just dont want more hardlight weapons in the game personally

[craggy thistle]

i just want another junker xd i want one sooo bad

[peak escarp]

we don't need any more Junkers

[ivory garnet]

we have 4 already

and junkers arent the “supportive” type

[craggy thistle]

EXACTLY

lol

[austere agate]

if we get a beam support it’ll be my last straw

[craggy thistle]

beam?

[austere agate]

like sym and zarya

idk what you call it

[peak escarp]

technically Moira's damage is a beam

[craggy thistle]

ohh i see now haha

[austere agate]

oh yea I forgot about her

she’s on the list along w mei too

[peak escarp]

Mei doesn't have a beam

she has a spray

[austere agate]

true

it would be much easier for me to hate mei if her backstory wasn’t so sad

[craggy thistle]

same

[ivory garnet]

https://twitter.com/owcavalry/status/1634767782402314241?s=46&t=UcSWn0nWO1a_pzFj1wWHiA

Overwatch Cavalry (@OWCavalry)

We'll see some "familiar faces" returning as heroes in #Overwatch2 👀✨

In a Q&A with @ChristalRaine and @BroYouWack, Alec Dawson revealed that we'll see a mix of new characters and some that we may have seen already that later become heroes 👥

🎬 https://t.co/blpaHJl84T

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Mauga is basically a 100%

[worthy rose]

Absolutely

[ivory garnet]

still have the guy on the far left

then everyone in this photo is a playable character

[dense nebula]

Better be, I want my twin minigun tank smh

[grand wedge]

Mauga, Sanjay, Nguyen are my top want in Talon. But I also want the archeologists (Hamid Faisal or whatever archeologist working in Petra/Illios/Ayuttaya)

[wind portal]

Mauga is likely going to be our next tank after the 2 supports

[grand wedge]

Most likely yes

There are so many characters we’ve seen glimpse of and other that were just face/name dropped…

I just don’t want Max to be playable… he is a coward and I think he’ll do great for the overall plot without him becoming a hero

[craggy thistle]

yep totally a coward

if i have to choose a "familliar face" to become a hero that will have to be

hmm..

idk man i just want Natasha xd

[twilit patrol]

Why ‘’coward’´ ?

[craggy thistle]

dude

he sale out doomfist

[austere agate]

I think I saw something saying he definitely won’t be a hero

[wind portal]

I don't think that's necessarily a coward move, if you were getting interrogated by a huge ass monkey, a battle medic, a cybernetic ninja and a girl who can do time stuff, I would cooperate 100%

[craggy thistle]

good point lol

[wind portal]

but I don't think Max should be a playable hero regardless

since it does kind of conflict with the whole 'oh max wants to stay out of combat and run things behind the scenes' deal

[twilit patrol]

I agree. He didn’t have choice.

He probably didn't want to get into trouble so he gave information about Akande.

[limpid agate]

Max is a non combatant

He shouldnt be a hero

[twilit patrol]

Yes he is just a pawn

[limpid agate]

He's not a pawn

He's a big player

He's just also a non combatant

[wind portal]

he is a major backbone behind the economical side of talon

[limpid agate]

Mauga is just a pawn

Mauga will be a hero

But he's just a pawn

[wind portal]

Mauga is just an unfortunate soul trapped in talon ngl

[twilit patrol]

Yes but you know what I mean