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Its all a hunters dream
i think theyre just an accessory based on the glasses of a nice scientist on the lunar colony
i was going to say i figure he got them from the scientist that raised him which is why i imagined he got so mad reaper stepped on them
theyve been broken a bunch of times i think he either fixes them or has just a lot of them
lol a dresser full of replacement glasses
Well Winston jobbed hard in that short
winston has won most of his fights off of plot conveniences
More like Reaper got lucky that the writers nerfed Winston in the short
you cant expect him to lose any fights as he’s the mc, only 1 instance happened like that and it was in Alive with Tracer
Well that's the same for every character
wdym he went all smoky what was winton meant to do
Every fight is plot driven
Winston got few shotted in the recall short in primal rage
Winston in the museum was eating dozens of shots at base form
And at primal rage was no selling Reaper's attacks. He was a boss in the museum short
One slam
Winston NO sold those shots at primal rage
Winston is op in Overwatch
Winston is far more powerful than Reaper. Just look at how Reaper ran away in the end
he’s more powerful yeah, but not by a landslide
well the good guy has to be more powerful isnt that a law
yes
especially in ow verse
the bad guy cant win! pearl clutch
Reaper is stronger than base Winston. But primal rage Winston was no selling Reaper's grenades. He outclasses Reaper
he was also goingto get outclassed due to widowmaker just losing her gun
so he didnt have someone to distract tracer
yeah, but you can make arguments Reaper is stronger
Primal Winston no sold Reaper's attacks though
Don't see how Reaper can win
At best it's a stalemate
So theres this hanzo’s elimination voice line that goes like “good looks are not enough” and it triggers only when you kill Cassidy, Baptiste, Reinhardt
It doesn’t trigger for any female character
Could this mean Hanzo is attracted to men?
I mean
maybe?
but it could just mean he acknowledges that they're the "pretty boys"
Cass and Bap yeah but Rein?
could just mean that Hanzo thinks there's more to life than good looks
yeah i just think hanzo can appreciate the male physique ig
i mean he could be gay
it would make sense that he supressed it in the gang environment
Aye, Reaper's writing is very scuffy. For every bit of writing that gives his character nuance, motivation, and sympathy, there's about twice as much that focuses on "deaaaaaaath" and him looking cool for the action setpieces. He's one of the character's that's been in cinematics the most but has the least development of them all, which is fair I suppose, since he's the antagonist of them all
I just wish they'd give Keith Ferguson some more to work with, he's an awesome VA, and the character has great potential as a villain/character
This is true
a true theatre kid
The raid boss of theatre kids
What if overwatch was the bad guys and talon/null sector was the good guys
they're not
Like asking "What if the sky was green and grass was blue"
How strong is torb
anyone no when the pve droppin
in less than 12 months
And then the next character will be in the season after, yeah?
I wonder if we'll get an original character or someone we already saw in the videos/comics
there's not many possible contenders for the next hero
it's likely to be a new character, or one that's introduced between now and season 4
I mean, there's a ton of contenders. So many named characters in the comics
idk about support contenders though
Lynx Seventeen. Could be a support Sombra
He could "hack" his teammates to give some health and shield
for known characters that could potentially be a support we have... Lynx Seventeen and/or Nameless, Hamid Faisal, Sanjay Korpal
Why is soldier 76 a target of a international manhunt as it says in character description? What did he do
made talon mad
How
vigilante who is seeking out talon/reaper
every overwatch agent has a bounty tho (besides the new recruits besides bap)
Why does he hate reaper and reaper hates him cause I heard some voiceline between them both sometimes or when one kills the other
its more than that pretty sure
yeah they have a personal rivalry
idk if its a theory or real, but its possible they “fought” which caused the swiss base incident
They did fight, and then the swiss hq exploded, but we dont know if the two are connected
only reason I think those 2 are connected is cuz of what Reaper said to Ana
“he did this to me”
meaning the explosion that their fight caused scarred his face possibly?
That's not wholly accurate
He did say that
But that's removing the context
"They left me to suffer... He did this to me, Ana. They left me to become this thing."
Implying that the "leaving him" is what "did this"
yeah true
feel as if its him talking about everyone, but also mainly soldier as they were war buddies. and during all of his hurt no one tried to help?
voicelines (ik not entirely canon) may imply Mercy may want to help Reyes still?
this interaction was also removed from the game when ow2 released, which was their only interaction
Mercy: Im not giving up on you Reyes
Reaper: I wish you would
Isn't it on the game currently?
i have yet to get the voiceline in ow2
I am pretty sure i heard it
Is there a summary of the lore available
the video in pins for in detail of mostly everything
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this video for just main events
Reins thing is that he's meant to be handsome
even in his old age
Does anyone know why Mcree’s name was changed to Cole Cassidy? (I think this belongs here)
He was named after a real dude named Jesse McCree who was involved in the sexual harassment case a while back. The lore reason is kinda vague but I think Cassidy is intended to be his real name that he gave up when he became a outlaw and is now going back to it I think
!!whycassidy
McCree was originally named after a Blizzard employee named Jesse McCree, because he had a cool sounding name. Blizzard no longer associates with that employee due to harassment in the workplace, so they changed the hero's name. Blizzard also committed to not naming in-game characters after staffers anymore.
can somebody help me. my sombra while invis isn’t rendering. she becomes a purple block. dm me i have screenshots. HELP PLS. it’s only happening for me. i’ve uninstalled, reinstalled, my team sees me as all purple. enemies do while i’m”detected”.
Wrong channel
ima e girl
I see her like that too
Sigma if RL would be the strongest out of all the heros
Is kiriko a shimada
her family was affiliated with the clan
Ok
is symm bad or good? by her voice lines looks like bad and her lore like good
i dont believe she is bad, but the company she works for is bad
I mean supporting a company like vishkar is a bad action like in general
She supports subjugation bc she wants order and not chaos
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You don’t have reg
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!!whycassidy
McCree was originally named after a Blizzard employee named Jesse McCree, because he had a cool sounding name. Blizzard no longer associates with that employee due to harassment in the workplace, so they changed the hero's name. Blizzard also committed to not naming in-game characters after staffers anymore.
Lf Mercy Player Dia master EU
I’d say good ideals but bad actions
shes good
herself
but vishkar is bad
Symm got mostly reformed by Zenyatta
But she’s still in vishkar
so?
widow get neural reconstruction or brainwash
its quite literally neural reconstruction yeah?
Vishkar isn't bad in principal
the way they do things is certaintly isn't 'good' though
Didn’t they destroy a district in lucios town
Also sojourn says she’d rather clean stables than join vishkar when symm asks her
Sojourn and Sym have never met in canon I believe
they’re referencing a voiceline
which arent entirely canon
Sojourn: I saw Vishkar is opening an office in Toronto.
Symmetra: Yes...are you interested in applying?
Sojourn: (chuckles) I'd rather clean cattle pens in Alberta.
I'm aware, I was noting that not all voice lines have canonicity behind them
But some might reflect their vision, if the question was not canon
I fully believe that's Sojourn's vision about Vishkar
a lot of people don't have a high opinion of Vishkar
Is it likely that the 2 kids in one of the cinematics could be new heros?
no
they're too young
maybe if the timeline moves forward a couple years
it would have to move 4-5 years for the older boy to be old enough
10 or so for the younger boy
Yeah thats not feasible
Did we ever see kiriko's bike?
no
It doesn’t have handlebars
Does any other character have a known vehicle that isnt a mech?
Winton escape pod?
cassidy has a motorcycle
I recently read something that said blizzard is moving away from naming things after employees
Which I found comical
Probably a good move on their part
One more reason for why you shouldn't work at blizzard
???
That’s not a reason to not work at blizzard, it’s just a precaution that they take
OW drop ship, Cassidy/Ashe bike
Tracer's bike from Storm Rising, Talon cars from Storm Rising
Which cinematic
the cinematic trailer/museum short
tracer has a bike?
thats pretty cool
I wonder if that bike’s ever coming back
racing arcade mode incoming
It's funny that we've seen Tracer's bike but not Kiriko. (And someone spams it for the 92753288th time) 😔
I need 3 to 5 v5 my friends there good so be good I’m a gold 1 dps with a plat 1 tank
why did sojourn testify against overwatch
Blame Reaper.
He started all this crap.

she says why in her origin trailer - "you can love a thing with your whole heart and still know when it's time to say goodbye"
what did reaper do
He broke the "no killing" code.
And then, the media caught up with his action.
He was in Overwatch.
He marks the beginning of the degradation of Overwatch.
and why did sojourn testify against overwatch in general and not just reaper
i wonder hows her relationship with the rest of the overwatch after that
It's like Marvel Avengers: Civil War.
Cap as 76
Ironman as Reaper
Ye.
not really the point, Ironman was in the wrong for what he did
I guess so.
same in the case for reaper but a lot more extreme because he was actually just slowly turning evil to begin with as soon as blackwatch was founded
why did reaper descend into evil though
Blackwatch allowed it
i mean like
Blackwatch is essentially, "hey let's throw out all or moral codes just so we don't have to get caught!"
I think it's ever since he broke the code.
Reyes was frustrated that corrupt people couldn't be touched by the law, and even through Blackwatch he wasn't able to make the change he wanted in the world
Genji wasn't evil but he certaintly wasn't in the right at the time
so after Overwatch fell, he went to Talon to use their resources in enacting his own justice
He was informed that he couldn't do anything because OW didn't allow him to.
And then, he popped the trigger, ever since he does everything in his own way.
also, how important was winston before the recall?
Overwatch did let him do what he wanted - that was what got Overwatch in trouble
Indeed.
Blackwatch did all the illegal stuff so Overwatch could keep their clean image
After the "no killing" stuff was broken. The downfall of OW begins.
also i wonder tho, how do they actually respawn lore wise?
I don't remember how 76 was saved but Reaper was saved by Moira.
Basically she turns Reyes to Reaper.
we don't know how 76 survived the explosion
i mean
we just haven't heard his side of the story yet
76 is a super soldier
Reyes is a super soldier too
maybe those genetic modifications helped him survive or something
maybe Reyes was closer to the center of the explosion
Jack and Reyes were part of the same program
which caused him to take more damage?
is that tracer? also is this canon or
oh i was under the impression that most of ow didnt know abt blackwatch
what happened here
ahhh
im guessing theyre just training
yeah they're sparring
wait its in the top left corner LMAO
wait does that mean genji and tracer joined around the same time?? or is tracer already an agent in this and not a trainee
Tracer is a trainee
Genji joined before her
Genji has been in Blackwatch for around 5 years at this point
he's still got the prototype body though
Uprising was Tracer's first mission
is there a list somewhere of the ordder that agents joined?
no but I could make one
whats kirikos current relationship with overwatch?
oh fr thatd be great
does she think goodly or badly of overwatch?
~25 years ago (post-crisis): Sojourn
20 years ago: Cassidy
15 years ago: Mercy
~10-13 years ago: Winston, Mei, Echo
12 years ago: Genji
~8 years ago: Moira
7 years ago: Tracer
Present Day (Zero Hour): Brigitte
Present Day (New Blood): Baptiste, Zarya, D.Va, Pharah
Present Day (Story Missions): Lucio```
we don't know Kiriko's opinion about Overwatch
tf when Baptiste is the oldest current member of OW might be wrong
Reinhardt is the oldest current member
well I'm talking like 'newest members'
we don't know
we don't know much about Gerard
all i know was assassinatioj attepmts on him failed
but he was enough of a threat that Talon tried to assassinate him several times before going after his wife
he was also good friends with Reyes
Am I the only one who thinks Hanzo could become a main role like his brother? They set up for it in the cinematic and his voiceline with Doomfist.
Doomfist: The Shimada could rise again, if you so choose.
Hanzo: There is nothing to that name but pain.
Doomfist: Pain... And a sleeping dragon. Wake him up.
Hanzo doesn't want the Shimada to come back
thats not what I entirely mean, but more on the part where its time to pick “sides”
he was told to "pick a side" a long time ago and we haven't seen any lore for him since then
I don't think Hanzo is going to be a main character
They should make a rouge ninja tank
A relative to kiriko so he has a fox ability too
Are all the characters that you can pick in overwatch
no
wat
Like the group
Theyre not ll part
I feel like this is a dumb question but wtf is up with Sigma? What's his story?
All I understand is that he was messed up and can now harness gravity
Watched origin??
Yes, still very confused
his origin story is all we have
but he is apart of Talon doing experiments in the background
and bio
well we simply don't know what he's done since then. he could have "picked a side" since then.
I highly doubt he has, his whole personality is that of just a lone wonderer
Has Lucio's dad been shown yet?
I wonder if we'll see a lot more voice lines and character interactions in MP once the pve mode arrives
I'm pretty sure there will be a part in the campaign where zen or genji are in trouble and he appears to help
he's been mentioned but not seen
also he might be dead
yeah that would make sense
Makes sense assuming he doesn't have siblings and same status for his mom
Yeah he did say it was Dads life work I think
but there was also a present-tense interaction where he says "you two would get along great", implying he's still alive
we see that there is a part like that
genji is seemingly saving Zen from Talon soldiers, Widow, and Sombra
i cant find the gif, but Doctor_Six may have it
nvm I found it
doubt they’ll update voice lines just for PvE release, but there will definitely be new voicelines during missions
they're always adding new interactions
do you think they’d do 1 last retribution event?
not likely
we haven't gotten a new Archives mission since 2019, and they said the Archives missions were to tell a specific story
yeah thats true, but didnt they always have the archive missions during anniversary? or am I mis-remembering
not always but they would do have one of the modes from any of the other events wvery day
ah okay, then yeah I see it as unlikely then because April would be nearing the end of s3
Season 4 will start April 11
thats the earliest we’d get PvE right
yes
off of assumption
does anyone know why junkrat and roadhog have so much respect for ana? i feel like its not explained at all
there are some voicelines that i think suggest so
yeah they might have watched the overwatch cartoon
theyre the right age i think
junkrat is at least
how old is roadhog?
it has sojourn on there so
im p sure its ow2 ages
and we dont know the timeskip anyway
its like maybe a year or two
orisa was 1 month in ow1, so it could just be last known
those are the ages from OW1
I included the OW2 launch heroes, but we don't know their exact ages
can we assume Ramattra is also 20-30?
had thought Kiriko would be mid 20s
when did liao die?
we don't know
definitely after the crisis
do we know what killed her?
it was an attack on her lab
probably by Talon
When Liao was killed in an attack on an Overwatch facility, Overwatch’s leadership feared the potential of such a robot without Liao’s careful stewardship. All development on Echo was shut down, and the robot was placed into quarantine.
Well hopefully we get to see his dad in pve
I don't think his dad is relevant to the story
its most likely the mission where we meet Lucio is one of the starting ones, that’d be the place where his dad is shown, but its incredibly unlikely we will see him
Nah bro the ops I’m gonna hop on me now aw hell nah
...?
Bro I hope god wasn’t watching the things I did while thinking about ball
Hell nah man
sus
I’m screwed
...I don't think his age is the problem here
thought it was command knowledge he is a hamster…having he is a 1’6 hamster…
junkrat aged like sheit
just radiation
if Overwatch takes place in the 2070s, would that make Ana and Sigma, Zoomers?
we’re older than everyone
oldest (sigma) was born in 2016 pretty sire
sure
sure*
PvE will tell us most likely
who killed widow's husband? widowmaker or some other mf
widowmaker
her name derives from 3 possible meanings
1: Making herself a widow
2: Spiders
3: Heart attack (her heart medically slowed)
whats yalls opinion on junker queens buff???
Wrong channel
what does 3 have to do with anything
his question? the first answer could help finding out who killed her husband
she killed him in his sleep
does anyone have in mind what characters might be added into the game
i know d.mon is a possibility but how exactly would her kit be like
wrong channel mb this is lore lol
pretty sure they confirmed no more MEKA will be added
Not sure this is lore related but is circuit royal based on the Monaco f1 track
Also is there lore implications for the payloads
Canon payloads are on Dorado, Junkertown, and Route 66
I mostly only say Dorado bc the payload vaguely resembles the truck from Hero
Is it just me or would Havana had made more sense as an Assault map because of the Storm Rising mission?
Inside the brew house and inside the fort would make sense as points too
Kings Row even though it’s hybrid too
is there any more lore updates
And PvE when it releases
awesome :3
Sadly, I have doubts bout PvE coming for season 3 so
I think it be better to release it then and there, but who knows
Does it. More like Summer since since season 3 isn’t going to have a new hero
So Blizz gone have to come back with something if that’s the case
June would also make sense because there’s no hero and it’s summer so their under 18 population has more time
Especially since we still don’t know if Archives and something else will come
They also said it would be staggered so
Thats not really new news
Just a hard confirmation on what was already more or less assumed
Wrong place, homeslice. This area is for lore, not your opinion on Moira players
woops
Well staggering or not, seems between either gameplay balance and smoothing out the story or whatever they’re doing, something has to keep players interested if the story won’t drop until after season 3
Strongly believe a Summer window like most things this year
That said, still don’t know what the plan is for season 3 for an event but hopefully something to keep players interested
Though, basing this off two skins we saw from the beginning, we could see an Aztec Event
which skins?
The Doomfist and Sombra skins
the Doomfist skin wasn't Aztec
I say this only bc some skins look like they’re on the wrong battlepass
Like Echo’s on the current one looks like a Cyberpunk skin
Ah. Well my bad but it just looked like Quetzalcoatl
we already know the theme for S3, based on the leaked Mythic skin
Maybe, but keep in mind some skins look like they got mixed up on battlepasses
Don’t know if that’s intentional or not
the mythic always matches the theme
That is true
Not sure what the theme is though. Looks like Amaterasu to me, but I doubt that’s it
||Japanese Myths/Legends||, probably
consider the themes of skins we've had in OW1
First was Cyberpunk, then Greek Mythology
and picture a bunch more of those themes
What is it?
||Amaterasu Kiriko||
Ah
Hmm. So I guess at some point we can expect a pirate themed event? Lol
Bc 3 heroes do have pirate skins. More if you include Halloween skins in that
I mean 4 heroes. Forgot Bastion’s skin
5 Forgot Torbjörn.
Most are from summer events
Pirates, Food, Beach Wear, Formalwear, Animals, Vikings, Post-apocalyptic, Steampunk, Safari, Americana, Casual, Underwater, Historical
these are some of the themes from OW1 skins
I have doubts about formal wear. I honestly can only see Widowmaker or Doomfist in that
they could push silhouettes a little more
Not based on silhouettes. I meant on their character in general. Bc we see them in fancy outfits but nobody else
skins don't have to be canon
I still want a Wedding event for Tracer and Emily
or Genji and Mercy
Actually, we could still get an Aztec event. I just remembered Zen got an Aztec skin
Am I the only one who forgot about it?
no I remember that one
you could add basically any culture to that list as well
Aztec, Korean, Chinese, Indian, etc.
just confirm Genji and Mercy already Blizzard come on-
Well Aztec event, I can already see the skins on BP now
the hanzo skin seems like its cupid idk if that means anything
maybe an Eco theme, like Botanist Ana
Hanzo, Genji, Junker Queen, Cassidy, and mythic
we have Safari winston technically
probably just a special skin for Valentines
Yeah. Probably just for Valentine’s Day
one people have been wanting for ages
Makes sense the only archer is Cupid
how about a western theme, everyone is cowboys now
Moira unironically wearing a cowboy hat
Zodiac Themed?
western or eastern zodiac?
could do either
welp we're already 1/12th through with this since we have that Medusa Widowmaker skin
Rat Wrecking Ball, Ox Reinhardt, Pig Roadhog, Snake Widow, Monkey Winston, Dog Kiriko, Rabbit D.Va, Dragon Genji
tiger genji
Thats not part of the zodiac
That's the white tiger
One of the four cardinal guardians or whatever they're called
Qinglong Zhuque Baihu Xuanwu
Seiryo, Suzaku, Byakko, Genbu
Blue Dragon, Red Bird, White Tiger, Black Turtle
the problem with a theme that has so many characters is you know only like 1/4 of them will actually be in the pass, the rest will be store skins
I do hope we get some tie-in skins for the PvE, and that they're earned by completing missions
like that Antarctic set
Well they did hint at the rewards being better, but…
Whether or not this means better prices in store, credits on BP, or whatever I wouldn’t get my hopes up too much
It could be used as a substitute, it may not have been made for that, but it can double as it.
That'd be pretty cool can't lie
How did Hammond end up in junkertown
her secret was that she was getting the tech for her mechs from omnics
different omnics than the ones Russia is at war with
thank you 
Doctor_Six, what was the main part of Sojourn’s novel again? I cant find your message relating to it
main part?
like what was it focused around
it's based around the outbreak of the omnic crisis and Sojourn's first meeting with Jack Morrison/Overwatch
Anyone have the nugget man lore
does anyone know why sombra cares for sigma sm
sympathy
Is there a chance Sombra would even consider working side by Overwatch?
if there was something she could gain from it
even then i’d feel as if she would still work both sides
She doesn’t work for Talon because she aligns with their goals she aligns with them because their resources help her goals
she classifies as a talon operative
doesnt matter the reasoning, still apart of Talon
what is it?
Ohhh i thought it was like to go after SOMBRA
Ohhh
I believe I killed everyone on moon and made Winton lonely
other gorillas did
Winston is gonna destroy you
@worthy rose but I got the balls to win
yo who's canonically the weakest in the game
ty
i dont primary fire has been wshown to be canon yet
It was in her cinematic
primary was in Zero Hour
Or at least her temporary one which I’d assume is a precursor to her new one
That too
and it could also be shown in her cinematic yeah
regardless it has very little range
like its got <20 feet of range
and she has little to no combat experience
zen is probably weaker but mei is really weak
Yo, hold up. Were people talking about possibly the best Overwatch comic, nay, the best Overwatch lore to come out so far?
nobody mentioned New Blood
Lynx is cool, but Searching is easily the worst comic we've had
Legitimately foaming for more Zarya comics/cinematics because they're friends now and Lynx might pop back up
Or even, if I get lucky enough, a Lynx Seventeen Origin video..?
Just so certain, huh?
they're about as likely to appear again as any other character
i mean that really depends on what you mean by "any other character" Maxemillien for instance is orders of magnitude more likely to appear again, but one off charafters like sven are as likely as Lynx-17 to show up again.
whats ramattras background
i hear his interactions with zen and jq but what did he do before the crisis?
Ramattra was built during the crisis
Is kiriko related to Shimadas?
no
childhood friends
not related tho
they kinda grew up together
anyone know what ramattras primary is made of?
like the little pebbles
nanites
What do we know so far about Maximilien, I get that he is basically Talon's money guy but is their anything else important?
He's an Omnic.
Nah Hammond's balls be crushed when Winston punches it at Primal Rage form
Did Moira test on widow
yes
Winston
Winton?
Was all of Australia turned to shit or most of it
winton is monke
DOOM CONQUERS ALL FIST ON ✊🏾
Sydney Australia was looking pretty good in the canon comics, it was the outback that got screwed over
almost all
I bet where I live is fine
It's not like there's a certain monkey he couldn't conquer.....oh wait

Da fuq?
Why is roadhogs voice so deep
Maybe the mask?
naturally like that
and maybe the radiation too
How isn’t junkrat dead from the radiation
Could be the breathers also
Messing up his vocal cords
What radiation
Idk I just hear a bunch of stuff about junkertown Australia and radiation
Maybe from whatever Omnics did to Australia
Btw what are those for? Does he need them to live or is it like recreational
I did some research and apparently it counteracts the effects of the radiation
Ohhh
omnium blew up and now theres radiation there
Oh, so that’s why they hate omnics
yea
It kinda feels unnecessary but I respect that
unnecessary?
been confirmed for a while
is widow being straight unecessary?
its apart of his backstory in taking OW seriously so not really
like its important to his character that he had a boyfriend and dropped it for work
Oh well idk im new to this whole ow thing i am merely discovering things
him being gay doesnt specifically matter but like widow being straight also doesnt specifically matter
like soldier could be straight and widow could be gay and it wouldnt change much
well
Ik ik
widow might change a bit given there might have been some homophobia in her really traditional household
soldier being gay had a significance in his backstory, thats why its important
its also for representation
Oh
its not a big significance but its still there
Makes sense
i mean he just kinda had a partner that he left because he was so dedicated to his work it doesnt really matter what the partners gender was
i mean its cool soldier is gay for representation and stuff but him being straight wouldnt change the story much it would just make vincent a woman
I thought they did that cuz ive heard of people who just do that bc its woke yk like the whole jk rowling thingy
i wouldnt say rowling is the most woke person around
i mean she did add gay ppl ig
but i just think tracer and soldier are gay for representation i dont think its very deep
without showing it in the story at all
yea
Yep
until fantastic beasts ig
at least Tracer and Soldier's orientation are shown in the text
yeah
yeah dumbledore's was just like not supported at all
Well i need more lore i really like this ow story
until fantastic beasts
I have a google doc that's linked in the pins on this channel that contains links to all the lore
most of the people here are pretty well informed, so if you have any questions or want to discuss anything, they can help you out
I'll comment where I can, but I have work in an hour
Alr ty
it only now hit me that overwatch’s lore is kinda disturbing but they don’t show it like that, like what did hanzo do to genji to make him end up looking like that
and why is there so many amputee characters
i mean there arent that many
torb sym genji
junkrat
doom
sojourn
ig there are a lot
cassidy
we don't know what Hanzo did to Genji - it's possible that his limbs were amputated for the cyborg process, and not by Hanzo at all
Also rein Ana
missing limbs: Torbjorn, Genji, Symmetra, Doomfist, Sojourn, Cassidy, Junkrat
missing eyes: Reinhardt, Ana
mental disability: Symmetra
yes I listed her
I'm personally thinking she willingly got the arm so she can properly use her technology?
Will genji blackwatch skin comeback anytime?
Maybe with Archives
I know that in Japanese and generally East Asian culture, people name their children after meaningful things
But why does Kiriko mean fog child
because that bitch will not be mist
Most of the variations of Kiriko use the characters for empress or wood
So like the name is common but the character isn’t I don’t think
霧 means fog
桐 is a type of tree
And the actual name is 霧湖
Instead of 霧子
What are archives
Uprising/Retribution/Storm Rising
her name is written 霧子
ko yes
"haha, i know that one"
me recognising a single kanji character and getting excited about it
Ik it’s that one
But the common one isn’t written like that
Which makes me confused about the character choice
are you referring to her autism?
in which case i dont think its good to call it a disability
It is literally a disability
Torbjorn is also missing an eye. I think technically Sojourn is too
and genji right?
hes got a bunch of scars around his eyes in dragons and the blackwatch skin has different color eyes than his normal ones
The whole point of taking off his mask was to show Hanzo his face/eyes
that doesnt mean its his original eyes
right, forgot those two
could just be artistic liberty for the skin
alot of canon skins have small differences to their shown counterparts
like talon widow and talon sombra
talon sigma isnt canon right?
not shown so yeah
Yes
That currently only extends to some OW2 designs
Ashe, Doomfist, Hanzo, Junkrat, Moira, Orisa, Reaper, Roadhog, Sigma, Soldier 76, Sombra, Symmetra, Hammond, and Zenyatta are the ones we havent seen yet
But its safe to assume those are canon, since the reason we havent seen them is because they have 0 lore appearances post Zero Hour
Doomfist, Sombra, and Zen do have scenes shown from the campaign, but those were 3 years ago before their new looks were revealed
Wait sym mental disability?
She has autism
Isn’t sojourn limbs voluntarily missing
would still count as missing limbs
He doesnt actually do that
no
I’m not an expert but I looked up the meaning for different spellings of the name. One of them means child that will protect the village or something like that. That seems like it would fit her guardian spirit persona. Though it isn’t the same spelling I heard of Japanese names having double meanings like that before.
But they give us the specific characters
I guess
I just feel like they should’ve just given us the characters for that definition then
The literal name might refer to her being hidden in mist because she’s a ninja
And made that her name
Why does Reinhardt need rockets on his hammer
Heavy
How else will it spit fire?
“Fresh from the oven!”
Are there base OW1 skins that never had canon appearances?
No
to make it hit harder and its heavy
i thought that mei ow1 was never shown
How does the immortality field work
I guess you can argue Mei wasn't shown
Because this is the only appearance it has
And it cuts off most of the outfit
that was the one I was thinking of
What about the name at the bottom of the screen
why is mei flicking off camera
she isnt
She isnt, she's holding up an index finger
How many kids does Torb have?
which two heros would most likely have a romantic relationship lore wise? and why is it genji and mercy?
Because they're the only two that the writers have written to imply will have a romantic relationship
hm, I suppose hammond and kiriko, that may sound weird but hammond is in love with the kitsune fox. theres a voiceline explaining it.
Kiriko is not the kitsune
Can you give the quote?
I havent seen any kiriko hammond interactions personally
nvm I found it
Hammond is afraid of foxes.
Yeah he isnt
There's a second, but that's also not what you are suggesting
#shorts #overwatch2 #overwatch #kiriko #hammond #gaming #interactions
Many voice lines that give a hint to it but it’s not confirmed by overwatch dev
Ana and Rein?
Yeah but like we don’t even see him and seems like they’re not together anymore
Even Fareeha doesn’t mention her father
Ana and Rein have literally not met since her fake death
She's distant from her husband but that doesn't mean she's interested in Rein
Pharah spent Christmas with her father
and Pharah met him, we saw it in Reflections
I meant the interactions between her and rein in the game
Just bc they interact doesnt mean they are in a relationship
I didn’t say they are but it’s hinted just like with genji and mercy
they may have flirty/romantic voice lines yes, but still doesnt take away the fact that Ana and Reinhard havent met again post-overwatch downfall
Cassidy has flirty voice lines with half of the female hero roster
doesn't mean they're going to have a relationship
Genji and Mercy's are more deeply involved
Cuz he is like that
Ana isn’t really flirty with other characters but she is kinda with rein that’s why I said that
Btw, Valentine’s Day is soon
Maybe we’ll get some new event with s3 and new hints
Event trailer or s3 trailer
the season trailers have the event trailers in them
i thought we get trailer 3 days before
the S2 trailer was on Nov 29 - the Tuesday before Dec 6
where tf does reaper have the time to get a wife during omnic crisis and blackwatch
the reaper sombra voiceline confused me a bit
his powers to pull are phenomenal
“the black ops organization im in charge of is going to be exposed for war crimes this is a good time to have a son”
when do you think he had a son?
wait is that his son in that one comic or is it the new husband’s son
i think the man is his son
i love war crimes i think it is okay for him to do that
his son was only 6 in the flashback, about 10-12 present day
so he would have been born before Blackwatch got exposed
during the time when Overwatch was successful and popular
Do you guys think they'll do something more with the Lore between Rammatra and Doomfist further on? Maybe when pve releases?
yes
Because wasn't Rammatra's whole thing about saving omnics yet Doomfist whole thing made him send widow to kill that omnic leader
Ramattra disagreed with Mondatta's methods, and thought Mondatta should be punished for condemning Null Sector as terrorists
He didn't want him dead though did he?
Rama wouldn't be upset over Mondatta's death
he'd see it as Mondatta getting what he deserved
Also hello fellow cowfolk main. (I main Ashe)


but we know that Doomfist and Ramattra are allies for the story going forward
I also find that weird. Because he says some cheeky stuff to doom when he kills him in game
and I don't think Doomfist would allow Mondatta's murder if it would offend his new ally
a lot of the in-game dialogue is like that
it's just banter
I personally thought it would imply that he's suspicious of Doom and maybe has plans to use him for his own ends. It would be interesting to have the two villains fight it out tbh
Well. Does Ram know that Doom had him murdered? And if not. Perhaps doom is using manipulation tactics
I do think Doomfist will betray Ramattra
I think it's public knowledge that Talon was behind the assassination
Interesting
I'm also hoping Ramatra points out Bob eventually too. It struck me as odd that Ashe has a Omnic Butler and Ramatra has nothing to say about it
Also, do you think they'll ever continue the Lore about Orisa being built to Counter Doom? In game voicelines between soldier and Orisa talks about how she nearly effortlessly chased Doom out of Numbani. As far as I know we haven't seen any more lore after that
one of Ramattra's friends seemed to be the same model as Bob
"Bob was Ashe's butler during her childhood. Since Ashe's parents were so busy, Bob took the majority of the responsibility of raising and caring for Ashe. Bob remained supportive, protective and loyal to Ashe even as she descended into delinquency."
Do we know who it is?
He’s not her butler
He’s bawb
🙂

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I need to see Bob and D.Va
Just because of her and Ashe’s interaction before matches
Bob was a family butler for Ashe, turned gang member/father figure, thats all there is to it
I love those interactions ngl
Yeah
The bap ones are funny too
Zera is the big one
are the apart of Null Sector aswell
no
Bawb null sector skin
thats a shame
Omnic skin
Didn't most of his friends die?
they left because they didn't like where Ramattra was taking it
Robo Ashe and Bob Null Sector skin would be dope. Hell. Just make Bob a playable character and Ashe his ult
he already is an omnic tho
Real
is nameless the one sitting on the crate
Hopefully there’s a new Archive mode or something this year
theres PvE..
I forgot about PvE
I see. Maybe he'd be against Bob then. It would be cool seeing Bob go to war with Ashe regarding Ramatra. Ramatra feels like he's a hypocrite in some aspects. For example echos interactions
Null Sector wouldnt be fighting the Deadlock Gang
Lanet was killed during the King's Row mission
If I'm being honest. I'm sure Ashe loves Bob and would gladly fight for him
And she kind of is the leader and all so y'know
ram might see bob as a traitor that would make sense
he does kinda follow around a human and do what she says
True but didn't bob gain sentience during the omnic crisis?
does bob finally do something?
Bob is going to war. (In all seriousness we're discussing whether the deadlock gang would fight null sector over Bob)
i dont think that would happen
deadlock is just kinda doing their own thing
null sector probably wouldnt care much
deadlock is just kind of there at this stage
as long as they don't interfere with what null does I doubt they'd care
we need more Roadhog solo stories though
Bob went back to her after the crisis
I want Roadhog to have more connections
outside of a hinted potential story between Roadhog and Pharah or atleast Roadhog and Helix
My thoughts were that what if Ramatra being as arrogant as he is got wind of Bob and decided that was the last straw. Maybe he'd have an issue with Bob and try to end "omnic slavery"
That also make me wonder. Does Hog even like Junkrat?
I mean, I don't think Ram is that 'bad' to not allow freedom of choice
We know he does or atleast cares about him enough to be with him
I guess that's fair.
Well. Judging by his interactions with Echo. He chastised her for "following humans around like a pet"
that's more-so ram's distaste for humans rather than critiquing echo for it
Also fair
I like when he calls Genji "my brother's pet human"
I liked it when Genji just casually roasted Ramattra back
Which hero mains are the most compatible? I main Reaper.
i get that, but I dont see Null Sector fighting Deadlock Gamg
Gang*
i think thats more of a gameplay question than a lore question
you right my b
not lore related but to help with your question. some simple heroes for each role that also are good are
Tank: Dva, Orisa, Ram
DPS: Soldier, Bastion, Reaper
Supp: Moira and Bap
moira?
her healing is really close range
she cant support reaper when he goes in
bap kinda can
so can ana
well its for simple, not the most tech
So does pharah work in like a company that makes rockets or something
Just realised the end point at dorado is some type of base owned by lumerico
What is that lumerico exactly?
it's a power plant
Lumerico is a power company
the payload is delivering a core for the powerplant
And why do the defenders want to stop it?
they're playing the role of Los Muertos, who disrupted the activation of the power plant
Are lumerico bad?
In sombra origin it seems like they are hiding something
There are scary eye symbols and then it cuts to lumerico symbol
their CEO Guillermo Portero is corrupt
he's doing backroom deals with Vishkar Sanjay
which means he might have Talon contacts too
What was talon made for?
So they’re just “evil organisation™️”
Who is junkrats mom
thicc dicc nicca in da chatt
BITCH
Um
junkrat doesnt have a mom. He has existed since the beggining of time. Junkrat is everything. Junkrat is all.
they're originally probably corrupt mercenaries that work with companies
doomfist reshaped that into an actual goal after his coup
Wait ashe’s real name is not Ashe????
Elizabeth Caledonia Ashe
how did dr liao die?
she was killed in an attack on her lab
Would Hanzos arrows be deadly to characters like orisa and Reinhardt
He’s killed a Hishimoto omnic in Dragons. What exactly wouldn’t an arrow be deadly to?
They have armour
