#lore-discussion

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glad star
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Overwatch is all a dream and the person who’s dreaming is the guy from squid game

bold oar
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Its all a hunters dream

rare trail
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i think theyre just an accessory based on the glasses of a nice scientist on the lunar colony

bold oar
rare trail
bold oar
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lol a dresser full of replacement glasses

worthy rose
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Well Winston jobbed hard in that short

ivory garnet
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winston has won most of his fights off of plot conveniences

worthy rose
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More like Reaper got lucky that the writers nerfed Winston in the short

ivory garnet
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you cant expect him to lose any fights as he’s the mc, only 1 instance happened like that and it was in Alive with Tracer

worthy rose
rare trail
worthy rose
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Every fight is plot driven

worthy rose
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Winston in the museum was eating dozens of shots at base form

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And at primal rage was no selling Reaper's attacks. He was a boss in the museum short

ivory garnet
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and reaper ate a slam

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during winston’s primal rage

worthy rose
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One slam

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Winston NO sold those shots at primal rage

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Winston is op in Overwatch

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Winston is far more powerful than Reaper. Just look at how Reaper ran away in the end

ivory garnet
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he’s more powerful yeah, but not by a landslide

bold oar
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well the good guy has to be more powerful isnt that a law

rare trail
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yes

ivory garnet
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especially in ow verse

bold oar
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the bad guy cant win! pearl clutch

worthy rose
ivory garnet
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he was also goingto get outclassed due to widowmaker just losing her gun

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so he didnt have someone to distract tracer

worthy rose
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True

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But still Winston defeated Doomfist

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Who is the main leader

ivory garnet
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yeah, but you can make arguments Reaper is stronger

worthy rose
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Primal Winston no sold Reaper's attacks though

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Don't see how Reaper can win

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At best it's a stalemate

golden oak
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So theres this hanzo’s elimination voice line that goes like “good looks are not enough” and it triggers only when you kill Cassidy, Baptiste, Reinhardt
It doesn’t trigger for any female character
Could this mean Hanzo is attracted to men?

clear kestrel
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I mean
maybe?
but it could just mean he acknowledges that they're the "pretty boys"

peak escarp
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could just mean that Hanzo thinks there's more to life than good looks

rare trail
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yeah i just think hanzo can appreciate the male physique ig

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i mean he could be gay

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it would make sense that he supressed it in the gang environment

viscid flame
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Aye, Reaper's writing is very scuffy. For every bit of writing that gives his character nuance, motivation, and sympathy, there's about twice as much that focuses on "deaaaaaaath" and him looking cool for the action setpieces. He's one of the character's that's been in cinematics the most but has the least development of them all, which is fair I suppose, since he's the antagonist of them all

I just wish they'd give Keith Ferguson some more to work with, he's an awesome VA, and the character has great potential as a villain/character

peak escarp
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he's just a very theatrical villain

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he enjoys the spectacle

viscid flame
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This is true

peak escarp
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a true theatre kid

viscid flame
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The raid boss of theatre kids

surreal ermine
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What if overwatch was the bad guys and talon/null sector was the good guys

peak escarp
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they're not

pale turret
vale fern
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How strong is torb

barren tendon
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anyone no when the pve droppin

peak escarp
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in less than 12 months

pale turret
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And then the next character will be in the season after, yeah?

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I wonder if we'll get an original character or someone we already saw in the videos/comics

peak escarp
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there's not many possible contenders for the next hero

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it's likely to be a new character, or one that's introduced between now and season 4

pale turret
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I mean, there's a ton of contenders. So many named characters in the comics

rare trail
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idk about support contenders though

pale turret
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Lynx Seventeen. Could be a support Sombra

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He could "hack" his teammates to give some health and shield

peak escarp
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for known characters that could potentially be a support we have... Lynx Seventeen and/or Nameless, Hamid Faisal, Sanjay Korpal

pale gull
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Why is soldier 76 a target of a international manhunt as it says in character description? What did he do

rare trail
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made talon mad

pale gull
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How

rare trail
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hes going after them

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hes a vigilante against talon

ivory garnet
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every overwatch agent has a bounty tho (besides the new recruits besides bap)

pale gull
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Why does he hate reaper and reaper hates him cause I heard some voiceline between them both sometimes or when one kills the other

rare trail
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reaper is a terrorist

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not many people like terrorists

ivory garnet
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its more than that pretty sure

rare trail
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yeah they have a personal rivalry

ivory garnet
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idk if its a theory or real, but its possible they “fought” which caused the swiss base incident

limpid agate
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They did fight, and then the swiss hq exploded, but we dont know if the two are connected

ivory garnet
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only reason I think those 2 are connected is cuz of what Reaper said to Ana

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“he did this to me”

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meaning the explosion that their fight caused scarred his face possibly?

limpid agate
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That's not wholly accurate

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He did say that

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But that's removing the context

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"They left me to suffer... He did this to me, Ana. They left me to become this thing."

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Implying that the "leaving him" is what "did this"

ivory garnet
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yeah true

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feel as if its him talking about everyone, but also mainly soldier as they were war buddies. and during all of his hurt no one tried to help?

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voicelines (ik not entirely canon) may imply Mercy may want to help Reyes still?

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this interaction was also removed from the game when ow2 released, which was their only interaction

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Mercy: Im not giving up on you Reyes
Reaper: I wish you would

warm locust
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Isn't it on the game currently?

ivory garnet
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i have yet to get the voiceline in ow2

warm locust
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I am pretty sure i heard it

fringe raven
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Is there a summary of the lore available

ivory garnet
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the video in pins for in detail of mostly everything

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this video for just main events

clear kestrel
rich estuary
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Does anyone know why Mcree’s name was changed to Cole Cassidy? (I think this belongs here)

opaque tundra
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He was named after a real dude named Jesse McCree who was involved in the sexual harassment case a while back. The lore reason is kinda vague but I think Cassidy is intended to be his real name that he gave up when he became a outlaw and is now going back to it I think

limpid agate
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!!whycassidy

twilit nacelleBOT
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McCree was originally named after a Blizzard employee named Jesse McCree, because he had a cool sounding name. Blizzard no longer associates with that employee due to harassment in the workplace, so they changed the hero's name. Blizzard also committed to not naming in-game characters after staffers anymore.

zealous night
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can somebody help me. my sombra while invis isn’t rendering. she becomes a purple block. dm me i have screenshots. HELP PLS. it’s only happening for me. i’ve uninstalled, reinstalled, my team sees me as all purple. enemies do while i’m”detected”.

limpid agate
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Wrong channel

wise escarp
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ima e girl

full hollow
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Sigma if RL would be the strongest out of all the heros

trail rock
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Is kiriko a shimada

ivory garnet
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her family was affiliated with the clan

trail rock
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Ok

viral dust
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is symm bad or good? by her voice lines looks like bad and her lore like good

ivory garnet
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i dont believe she is bad, but the company she works for is bad

rare trail
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I mean supporting a company like vishkar is a bad action like in general

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She supports subjugation bc she wants order and not chaos

finite frost
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!ashe

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!whocassidy

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!!ashe

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!!whycassidy

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aight bro

rare trail
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You don’t have reg

finite frost
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oh

ivory garnet
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!!whycassidy

twilit nacelleBOT
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McCree was originally named after a Blizzard employee named Jesse McCree, because he had a cool sounding name. Blizzard no longer associates with that employee due to harassment in the workplace, so they changed the hero's name. Blizzard also committed to not naming in-game characters after staffers anymore.

worthy rose
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Lf Mercy Player Dia master EU

golden oak
keen summit
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herself

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but vishkar is bad

wind portal
golden oak
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But she’s still in vishkar

ivory garnet
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so?

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widow get neural reconstruction or brainwash

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its quite literally neural reconstruction yeah?

wind portal
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the way they do things is certaintly isn't 'good' though

ivory garnet
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correct, vishkar does some things nicely

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but bad can overrule the good

golden oak
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Also sojourn says she’d rather clean stables than join vishkar when symm asks her

wind portal
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Sojourn and Sym have never met in canon I believe

ivory garnet
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they’re referencing a voiceline

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which arent entirely canon

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Sojourn: I saw Vishkar is opening an office in Toronto.
Symmetra: Yes...are you interested in applying?
Sojourn: (chuckles) I'd rather clean cattle pens in Alberta.

wind portal
warm locust
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But some might reflect their vision, if the question was not canon

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I fully believe that's Sojourn's vision about Vishkar

peak escarp
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a lot of people don't have a high opinion of Vishkar

surreal ermine
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Is it likely that the 2 kids in one of the cinematics could be new heros?

ivory garnet
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no

peak escarp
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they're too young

merry mason
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maybe if the timeline moves forward a couple years

peak escarp
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it would have to move 4-5 years for the older boy to be old enough

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10 or so for the younger boy

limpid agate
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Yeah thats not feasible

dawn topaz
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Did we ever see kiriko's bike?

peak escarp
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no

bold oar
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It doesn’t have handlebars

dawn topaz
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Does any other character have a known vehicle that isnt a mech?

bold oar
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Winton escape pod?

rare trail
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cassidy has a motorcycle

bold oar
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I recently read something that said blizzard is moving away from naming things after employees

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Which I found comical

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Probably a good move on their part

dawn topaz
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One more reason for why you shouldn't work at blizzard

vocal marsh
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???

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That’s not a reason to not work at blizzard, it’s just a precaution that they take

ivory garnet
peak escarp
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Tracer's bike from Storm Rising, Talon cars from Storm Rising

quasi sparrow
peak escarp
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the cinematic trailer/museum short

maiden granite
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tracer has a bike?

peak escarp
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in the intro to Storm Rising

maiden granite
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thats pretty cool

opaque tundra
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I wonder if that bike’s ever coming back

bold oar
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racing arcade mode incoming

hollow maple
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It's funny that we've seen Tracer's bike but not Kiriko. (And someone spams it for the 92753288th time) 😔

cyan hedge
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I need 3 to 5 v5 my friends there good so be good I’m a gold 1 dps with a plat 1 tank

warm kiln
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why did sojourn testify against overwatch

hollow maple
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He started all this crap.

peak escarp
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she says why in her origin trailer - "you can love a thing with your whole heart and still know when it's time to say goodbye"

warm kiln
hollow maple
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He broke the "no killing" code.

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And then, the media caught up with his action.

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He was in Overwatch.

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He marks the beginning of the degradation of Overwatch.

warm kiln
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and why did sojourn testify against overwatch in general and not just reaper

hollow maple
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It's like.

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A long time after it.

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She just

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Dissatisfied with OW.

warm kiln
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i wonder hows her relationship with the rest of the overwatch after that

hollow maple
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Cap as 76
Ironman as Reaper

warm kiln
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the only difference is reaper is actually evil

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ironman isnt

hollow maple
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Ye.

wind portal
hollow maple
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I guess so.

wind portal
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same in the case for reaper but a lot more extreme because he was actually just slowly turning evil to begin with as soon as blackwatch was founded

warm kiln
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why did reaper descend into evil though

wind portal
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Blackwatch allowed it

warm kiln
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i mean like

wind portal
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Blackwatch is essentially, "hey let's throw out all or moral codes just so we don't have to get caught!"

hollow maple
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I think it's ever since he broke the code.

warm kiln
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genji isnt evil

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cassidy isnt that evil

peak escarp
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Reyes was frustrated that corrupt people couldn't be touched by the law, and even through Blackwatch he wasn't able to make the change he wanted in the world

wind portal
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Genji wasn't evil but he certaintly wasn't in the right at the time

peak escarp
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so after Overwatch fell, he went to Talon to use their resources in enacting his own justice

hollow maple
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He was informed that he couldn't do anything because OW didn't allow him to.
And then, he popped the trigger, ever since he does everything in his own way.

warm kiln
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also, how important was winston before the recall?

peak escarp
peak escarp
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Blackwatch did all the illegal stuff so Overwatch could keep their clean image

hollow maple
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After the "no killing" stuff was broken. The downfall of OW begins.

peak escarp
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Antonio wasn't the first time they killed someone

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there was no "no killing" rule

warm kiln
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also i wonder tho, how do they actually respawn lore wise?

peak escarp
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they don't

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the game isn't canon

warm kiln
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fair enough

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i was expecting that there are clones of the heroes or something

hollow maple
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I don't remember how 76 was saved but Reaper was saved by Moira.

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Basically she turns Reyes to Reaper.

peak escarp
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we don't know how 76 survived the explosion

hollow maple
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I guess "it just works" then.

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😔

warm kiln
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i mean

peak escarp
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we just haven't heard his side of the story yet

warm kiln
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76 is a super soldier

peak escarp
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Reyes is a super soldier too

warm kiln
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maybe those genetic modifications helped him survive or something

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maybe Reyes was closer to the center of the explosion

peak escarp
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Jack and Reyes were part of the same program

warm kiln
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which caused him to take more damage?

vital geode
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is that tracer? also is this canon or

peak escarp
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yes that's Tracer

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and yes it's canon

vital geode
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oh i was under the impression that most of ow didnt know abt blackwatch

peak escarp
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no, they knew

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they didn't know that Reyes recruited Moira

maiden granite
vital geode
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ahhh

vital geode
peak escarp
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yeah they're sparring

vital geode
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wait its in the top left corner LMAO

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wait does that mean genji and tracer joined around the same time?? or is tracer already an agent in this and not a trainee

peak escarp
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Tracer is a trainee

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Genji joined before her

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Genji has been in Blackwatch for around 5 years at this point

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he's still got the prototype body though

vital geode
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oh dang

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idk why i thought tracer joined before him

peak escarp
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Uprising was Tracer's first mission

vital geode
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is there a list somewhere of the ordder that agents joined?

peak escarp
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no but I could make one

warm kiln
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whats kirikos current relationship with overwatch?

vital geode
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oh fr thatd be great

warm kiln
peak escarp
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~25 years ago (post-crisis): Sojourn
20 years ago: Cassidy
15 years ago: Mercy
~10-13 years ago: Winston, Mei, Echo
12 years ago: Genji
~8 years ago: Moira
7 years ago: Tracer
Present Day (Zero Hour): Brigitte
Present Day (New Blood): Baptiste, Zarya, D.Va, Pharah
Present Day (Story Missions): Lucio```
peak escarp
wind portal
peak escarp
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Reinhardt is the oldest current member

wind portal
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well I'm talking like 'newest members'

warm kiln
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how about gerard

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when did he join

peak escarp
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we don't know

warm kiln
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and what was he like

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was he a skilled guy

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or a smart guy

peak escarp
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we don't know much about Gerard

warm kiln
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all i know was assassinatioj attepmts on him failed

peak escarp
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but he was enough of a threat that Talon tried to assassinate him several times before going after his wife

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he was also good friends with Reyes

ivory garnet
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Am I the only one who thinks Hanzo could become a main role like his brother? They set up for it in the cinematic and his voiceline with Doomfist.

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Doomfist: The Shimada could rise again, if you so choose.
Hanzo: There is nothing to that name but pain.
Doomfist: Pain... And a sleeping dragon. Wake him up.

peak escarp
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Hanzo doesn't want the Shimada to come back

ivory garnet
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thats not what I entirely mean, but more on the part where its time to pick “sides”

peak escarp
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he was told to "pick a side" a long time ago and we haven't seen any lore for him since then

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I don't think Hanzo is going to be a main character

misty junco
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They should make a rouge ninja tank

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A relative to kiriko so he has a fox ability too

half wraith
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Are all the characters that you can pick in overwatch

ivory garnet
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no

half wraith
keen summit
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Theyre not ll part

lusty tangle
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I feel like this is a dumb question but wtf is up with Sigma? What's his story?

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All I understand is that he was messed up and can now harness gravity

keen summit
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Watched origin??

lusty tangle
ivory garnet
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his origin story is all we have

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but he is apart of Talon doing experiments in the background

keen summit
merry mason
uneven isle
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I highly doubt he has, his whole personality is that of just a lone wonderer

rare trail
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he can control gravity

molten shore
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Has Lucio's dad been shown yet?

viscid flame
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I wonder if we'll see a lot more voice lines and character interactions in MP once the pve mode arrives

viscid flame
peak escarp
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also he might be dead

molten shore
peak escarp
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some of the dialogue about Lucio's dad uses the past tense

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ergo he might be dead

molten shore
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Yeah he did say it was Dads life work I think

peak escarp
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but there was also a present-tense interaction where he says "you two would get along great", implying he's still alive

ivory garnet
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genji is seemingly saving Zen from Talon soldiers, Widow, and Sombra

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i cant find the gif, but Doctor_Six may have it

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nvm I found it

ivory garnet
peak escarp
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they're always adding new interactions

ivory garnet
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do you think they’d do 1 last retribution event?

peak escarp
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not likely

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we haven't gotten a new Archives mission since 2019, and they said the Archives missions were to tell a specific story

ivory garnet
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yeah thats true, but didnt they always have the archive missions during anniversary? or am I mis-remembering

peak escarp
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no it was during the Archives event

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in April usually

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Anniversary is in May

merry mason
ivory garnet
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ah okay, then yeah I see it as unlikely then because April would be nearing the end of s3

peak escarp
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Season 4 will start April 11

ivory garnet
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thats the earliest we’d get PvE right

peak escarp
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yes

ivory garnet
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off of assumption

grim pewter
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does anyone know why junkrat and roadhog have so much respect for ana? i feel like its not explained at all

rare trail
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why do you think they do?

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theyve never met

grim pewter
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there are some voicelines that i think suggest so

ivory garnet
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ana may have passed through junkertown

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and ana is relatively nice to people

rare trail
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yeah they might have watched the overwatch cartoon

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theyre the right age i think

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junkrat is at least

grim pewter
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how old is roadhog?

ivory garnet
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this is ow1 ages pretty sure

rare trail
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it has sojourn on there so

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im p sure its ow2 ages

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and we dont know the timeskip anyway

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its like maybe a year or two

ivory garnet
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orisa was 1 month in ow1, so it could just be last known

peak escarp
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those are the ages from OW1

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I included the OW2 launch heroes, but we don't know their exact ages

ivory garnet
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can we assume Ramattra is also 20-30?

peak escarp
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yeah

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Sojourn is in her 50s, JQ is in her 30s, Kiriko is early 20s

ivory garnet
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had thought Kiriko would be mid 20s

rare trail
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when did liao die?

peak escarp
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we don't know

rare trail
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do we have a ballpark?

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like before or after omnic war ended?

peak escarp
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definitely after the crisis

rare trail
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do we know what killed her?

peak escarp
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it was an attack on her lab

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probably by Talon

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When Liao was killed in an attack on an Overwatch facility, Overwatch’s leadership feared the potential of such a robot without Liao’s careful stewardship. All development on Echo was shut down, and the robot was placed into quarantine.

molten shore
peak escarp
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I don't think his dad is relevant to the story

ivory garnet
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its most likely the mission where we meet Lucio is one of the starting ones, that’d be the place where his dad is shown, but its incredibly unlikely we will see him

cerulean latch
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I’m screwed bro aw hell nah

rare trail
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genetic engineering or smth

cerulean latch
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Nah bro the ops I’m gonna hop on me now aw hell nah

peak escarp
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...?

cerulean latch
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Bro I hope god wasn’t watching the things I did while thinking about ball

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Hell nah man

cerulean latch
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I’m screwed

peak escarp
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...I don't think his age is the problem here

cerulean latch
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WAIT HES NOT A HUMAN

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SHIT BRO IM SCREWED

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HELL NAH MAN

ivory garnet
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thought it was command knowledge he is a hamster…having he is a 1’6 hamster…

zealous kite
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junkrat aged like sheit

ivory garnet
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just radiation

viscid flame
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if Overwatch takes place in the 2070s, would that make Ana and Sigma, Zoomers?

limpid agate
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No

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They're a full decade younger than the zoomers

ivory garnet
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we’re older than everyone

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oldest (sigma) was born in 2016 pretty sire

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sure

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sure*

peak escarp
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we don't know the exact present year in OW2

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best guess is between 2076 and 2079

ivory garnet
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PvE will tell us most likely

errant minnow
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who killed widow's husband? widowmaker or some other mf

ivory garnet
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widowmaker

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her name derives from 3 possible meanings
1: Making herself a widow
2: Spiders
3: Heart attack (her heart medically slowed)

prime ice
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whats yalls opinion on junker queens buff???

limpid agate
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Wrong channel

merry mason
ivory garnet
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his question? the first answer could help finding out who killed her husband

peak escarp
low cipher
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does anyone have in mind what characters might be added into the game

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i know d.mon is a possibility but how exactly would her kit be like

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wrong channel mb this is lore lol

ivory garnet
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pretty sure they confirmed no more MEKA will be added

half wraith
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Not sure this is lore related but is circuit royal based on the Monaco f1 track

peak escarp
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yes

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the payload is a racecar

half wraith
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Also is there lore implications for the payloads

ivory garnet
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only for junkertown

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which is only semi

past copper
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Canon payloads are on Dorado, Junkertown, and Route 66

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I mostly only say Dorado bc the payload vaguely resembles the truck from Hero

vocal marsh
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Is it just me or would Havana had made more sense as an Assault map because of the Storm Rising mission?

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Inside the brew house and inside the fort would make sense as points too

vocal marsh
wanton galleon
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is there any more lore updates

ivory garnet
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nope

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only that we’re getting a Hanzo short story and more

vocal marsh
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And PvE when it releases

wanton galleon
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awesome :3

past copper
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Sadly, I have doubts bout PvE coming for season 3 so

vocal marsh
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I’d expect S5

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So August

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No wait

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June

past copper
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I think it be better to release it then and there, but who knows

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Does it. More like Summer since since season 3 isn’t going to have a new hero

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So Blizz gone have to come back with something if that’s the case

vocal marsh
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June would also make sense because there’s no hero and it’s summer so their under 18 population has more time

past copper
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Especially since we still don’t know if Archives and something else will come

vocal marsh
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They also said it would be staggered so

limpid agate
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Thats not really new news

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Just a hard confirmation on what was already more or less assumed

pale turret
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Wrong place, homeslice. This area is for lore, not your opinion on Moira players

prime ice
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woops

past copper
#

Well staggering or not, seems between either gameplay balance and smoothing out the story or whatever they’re doing, something has to keep players interested if the story won’t drop until after season 3

#

Strongly believe a Summer window like most things this year

#

That said, still don’t know what the plan is for season 3 for an event but hopefully something to keep players interested

#

Though, basing this off two skins we saw from the beginning, we could see an Aztec Event

peak escarp
#

which skins?

past copper
#

The Doomfist and Sombra skins

peak escarp
#

the Doomfist skin wasn't Aztec

past copper
#

I say this only bc some skins look like they’re on the wrong battlepass

#

Like Echo’s on the current one looks like a Cyberpunk skin

peak escarp
#

kìnìún is yoruba for lion

past copper
#

Ah. Well my bad but it just looked like Quetzalcoatl

peak escarp
#

we already know the theme for S3, based on the leaked Mythic skin

past copper
#

Maybe, but keep in mind some skins look like they got mixed up on battlepasses

#

Don’t know if that’s intentional or not

peak escarp
#

the mythic always matches the theme

past copper
#

That is true

#

Not sure what the theme is though. Looks like Amaterasu to me, but I doubt that’s it

peak escarp
#

||Japanese Myths/Legends||, probably

past copper
#

That would be cool

#

Makes you wonder what kind of theme each season would try

peak escarp
#

consider the themes of skins we've had in OW1

past copper
#

First was Cyberpunk, then Greek Mythology

peak escarp
#

and picture a bunch more of those themes

peak escarp
#

||Amaterasu Kiriko||

vocal marsh
#

Ah

past copper
#

Hmm. So I guess at some point we can expect a pirate themed event? Lol

#

Bc 3 heroes do have pirate skins. More if you include Halloween skins in that

#

I mean 4 heroes. Forgot Bastion’s skin

vocal marsh
#

I’m surprised we still don’t have the new map

#

They revealed it sooner last season

past copper
#

5 Forgot Torbjörn.

vocal marsh
peak escarp
#

Pirates, Food, Beach Wear, Formalwear, Animals, Vikings, Post-apocalyptic, Steampunk, Safari, Americana, Casual, Underwater, Historical

#

these are some of the themes from OW1 skins

past copper
#

I have doubts about formal wear. I honestly can only see Widowmaker or Doomfist in that

peak escarp
#

they could push silhouettes a little more

past copper
#

Not based on silhouettes. I meant on their character in general. Bc we see them in fancy outfits but nobody else

peak escarp
#

skins don't have to be canon

#

I still want a Wedding event for Tracer and Emily

#

or Genji and Mercy

past copper
#

Actually, we could still get an Aztec event. I just remembered Zen got an Aztec skin

#

Am I the only one who forgot about it?

peak escarp
#

no I remember that one

#

you could add basically any culture to that list as well

#

Aztec, Korean, Chinese, Indian, etc.

wind portal
#

just confirm Genji and Mercy already Blizzard come on-

past copper
#

Well Aztec event, I can already see the skins on BP now

rare trail
#

the hanzo skin seems like its cupid idk if that means anything

peak escarp
#

maybe an Eco theme, like Botanist Ana

past copper
#

Hanzo, Genji, Junker Queen, Cassidy, and mythic

wind portal
#

we have Safari winston technically

peak escarp
past copper
#

Yeah. Probably just for Valentine’s Day

peak escarp
#

one people have been wanting for ages

past copper
#

Makes sense the only archer is Cupid

peak escarp
#

how about a western theme, everyone is cowboys now

wind portal
#

Moira unironically wearing a cowboy hat

past copper
#

Zodiac Themed?

peak escarp
#

western or eastern zodiac?

past copper
#

Eastern

peak escarp
#

could do either

wind portal
# past copper

welp we're already 1/12th through with this since we have that Medusa Widowmaker skin

past copper
#

Rat Wrecking Ball, Ox Reinhardt, Pig Roadhog, Snake Widow, Monkey Winston, Dog Kiriko, Rabbit D.Va, Dragon Genji

rare trail
#

tiger genji

limpid agate
#

Thats not part of the zodiac

#

That's the white tiger

#

One of the four cardinal guardians or whatever they're called

#

Qinglong Zhuque Baihu Xuanwu

#

Seiryo, Suzaku, Byakko, Genbu

#

Blue Dragon, Red Bird, White Tiger, Black Turtle

peak escarp
#

the problem with a theme that has so many characters is you know only like 1/4 of them will actually be in the pass, the rest will be store skins

#

I do hope we get some tie-in skins for the PvE, and that they're earned by completing missions

#

like that Antarctic set

past copper
#

Well they did hint at the rewards being better, but…

#

Whether or not this means better prices in store, credits on BP, or whatever I wouldn’t get my hopes up too much

vocal marsh
maiden granite
golden oak
#

How did Hammond end up in junkertown

limpid agate
#

He landed nearby

#

From outer space

copper spire
#

I love moira

#

Best lore character

wanton galleon
#

what exactly was katyas secret i forgor, wasnt it specified in infiltration?

peak escarp
#

her secret was that she was getting the tech for her mechs from omnics

#

different omnics than the ones Russia is at war with

wanton galleon
#

thank you guoba_happy

ivory garnet
#

Doctor_Six, what was the main part of Sojourn’s novel again? I cant find your message relating to it

peak escarp
#

main part?

ivory garnet
#

like what was it focused around

peak escarp
#

it's based around the outbreak of the omnic crisis and Sojourn's first meeting with Jack Morrison/Overwatch

echo pawn
#

Anyone have the nugget man lore

void vale
#

does anyone know why sombra cares for sigma sm

ivory garnet
#

sympathy

warm locust
#

Is there a chance Sombra would even consider working side by Overwatch?

peak escarp
#

if there was something she could gain from it

ivory garnet
#

even then i’d feel as if she would still work both sides

vocal marsh
#

She doesn’t work for Talon because she aligns with their goals she aligns with them because their resources help her goals

ivory garnet
#

she classifies as a talon operative

#

doesnt matter the reasoning, still apart of Talon

vocal marsh
#

Ik

#

I Never Said she wasn’t

odd zinc
#

Ok

#

So I need a question answerd

rare trail
#

what is it?

odd zinc
#

So liek at the end of sombras short

#

What does that woman want zarya to do

#

?

rare trail
#

be security

#

justl ike be a bodyguard

odd zinc
#

Ohhh i thought it was like to go after SOMBRA

peak escarp
#

it was

#

that leads directly into the comic Searching

odd zinc
#

Oh what happens in the comic

#

Do they like fight lol

peak escarp
#

Zarya finds Sombra

#

yes

odd zinc
#

Ohhh

worthy rose
#

I believe I killed everyone on moon and made Winton lonely

ivory garnet
#

other gorillas did

peak escarp
#

Hammond wasn't involved in killing the scientists

#

he was doing his own thing

worthy rose
#

@worthy rose but I got the balls to win

sonic helm
#

yo who's canonically the weakest in the game

rare trail
#

mei

#

zenyatta

sonic helm
#

ty

vocal marsh
#

I mean Meis gun has gotta be very cold

#

Like she froze the radio tower back together

rare trail
#

i dont primary fire has been wshown to be canon yet

vocal marsh
#

It was in her cinematic

ivory garnet
vocal marsh
#

Or at least her temporary one which I’d assume is a precursor to her new one

#

That too

ivory garnet
#

and it could also be shown in her cinematic yeah

rare trail
#

regardless it has very little range

#

like its got <20 feet of range

#

and she has little to no combat experience

#

zen is probably weaker but mei is really weak

pale turret
#

Yo, hold up. Were people talking about possibly the best Overwatch comic, nay, the best Overwatch lore to come out so far?

peak escarp
#

nobody mentioned New Blood

#

Lynx is cool, but Searching is easily the worst comic we've had

pale turret
#

Legitimately foaming for more Zarya comics/cinematics because they're friends now and Lynx might pop back up

#

Or even, if I get lucky enough, a Lynx Seventeen Origin video..?

ivory garnet
#

Lynx wont be returning to the lore anytime soon

#

or ever

pale turret
#

Just so certain, huh?

peak escarp
#

they're about as likely to appear again as any other character

merry mason
#

i mean that really depends on what you mean by "any other character" Maxemillien for instance is orders of magnitude more likely to appear again, but one off charafters like sven are as likely as Lynx-17 to show up again.

void vale
#

whats ramattras background
i hear his interactions with zen and jq but what did he do before the crisis?

peak escarp
#

Ramattra was built during the crisis

golden oak
#

Is kiriko related to Shimadas?

void vale
#

childhood friends

#

not related tho

#

they kinda grew up together

#

anyone know what ramattras primary is made of?
like the little pebbles

peak escarp
#

nanites

west dirge
#

What do we know so far about Maximilien, I get that he is basically Talon's money guy but is their anything else important?

pale turret
#

He's an Omnic.

worthy rose
thick elk
#

Did Moira test on widow

peak escarp
#

yes

jovial cairn
#

Winston

digital sleet
#

Winton?

spiral cedar
#

Was all of Australia turned to shit or most of it

formal harness
#

winton is monke

sleek thunder
#

DOOM CONQUERS ALL FIST ON ✊🏾

viscid flame
void vale
spiral cedar
worthy rose
maiden granite
worthy rose
#

Da fuq?

half wraith
#

Why is roadhogs voice so deep

warm locust
#

Maybe the mask?

void vale
#

and maybe the radiation too

half wraith
#

How isn’t junkrat dead from the radiation

golden oak
#

Messing up his vocal cords

golden oak
half wraith
golden oak
#

Maybe from whatever Omnics did to Australia

golden oak
half wraith
rare trail
golden oak
rare trail
#

yea

trail ridge
#

Bro

#

This whole time

#

Soldier 76 is gay

rare trail
#

yes

#

hes gay

trail ridge
#

It kinda feels unnecessary but I respect that

rare trail
#

unnecessary?

ivory garnet
#

been confirmed for a while

rare trail
#

is widow being straight unecessary?

trail ridge
#

To the lore specifically

#

Not anything else

ivory garnet
#

its apart of his backstory in taking OW seriously so not really

rare trail
#

like its important to his character that he had a boyfriend and dropped it for work

trail ridge
#

Oh well idk im new to this whole ow thing i am merely discovering things

rare trail
#

him being gay doesnt specifically matter but like widow being straight also doesnt specifically matter

#

like soldier could be straight and widow could be gay and it wouldnt change much

#

well

trail ridge
#

Ik ik

rare trail
#

widow might change a bit given there might have been some homophobia in her really traditional household

ivory garnet
#

soldier being gay had a significance in his backstory, thats why its important

#

its also for representation

trail ridge
#

Oh

ivory garnet
trail ridge
#

Makes sense

rare trail
#

i mean he just kinda had a partner that he left because he was so dedicated to his work it doesnt really matter what the partners gender was

#

i mean its cool soldier is gay for representation and stuff but him being straight wouldnt change the story much it would just make vincent a woman

trail ridge
#

I thought they did that cuz ive heard of people who just do that bc its woke yk like the whole jk rowling thingy

rare trail
#

i wouldnt say rowling is the most woke person around

#

i mean she did add gay ppl ig

#

but i just think tracer and soldier are gay for representation i dont think its very deep

peak escarp
rare trail
#

yea

trail ridge
#

Yep

rare trail
#

until fantastic beasts ig

peak escarp
#

at least Tracer and Soldier's orientation are shown in the text

trail ridge
#

yeah

rare trail
#

yeah dumbledore's was just like not supported at all

trail ridge
#

Well i need more lore i really like this ow story

rare trail
#

until fantastic beasts

peak escarp
trail ridge
#

oh nice

#

🙏 thanks

peak escarp
#

most of the people here are pretty well informed, so if you have any questions or want to discuss anything, they can help you out

#

I'll comment where I can, but I have work in an hour

trail ridge
#

Alr ty

odd wigeon
#

it only now hit me that overwatch’s lore is kinda disturbing but they don’t show it like that, like what did hanzo do to genji to make him end up looking like that

#

and why is there so many amputee characters

rare trail
#

i mean there arent that many

#

torb sym genji

#

junkrat

#

doom

#

sojourn

#

ig there are a lot

#

cassidy

peak escarp
golden oak
peak escarp
#

missing limbs: Torbjorn, Genji, Symmetra, Doomfist, Sojourn, Cassidy, Junkrat
missing eyes: Reinhardt, Ana

#

mental disability: Symmetra

golden oak
#

Symmetra has a robotic arm

#

Also

peak escarp
#

yes I listed her

summer tulip
#

I thought it was just a glove

#

How did she lose arm?

peak escarp
#

we don't know

#

but the writers confirmed that it's a prosthetic arm

wind portal
#

I'm personally thinking she willingly got the arm so she can properly use her technology?

spark ember
#

Will genji blackwatch skin comeback anytime?

vocal marsh
#

Maybe with Archives

pseudo flame
#

i hope.... . ,.,. , zoo wee mama

#

moira blackwatch skin my life support ;3333333

vocal marsh
#

I know that in Japanese and generally East Asian culture, people name their children after meaningful things

#

But why does Kiriko mean fog child

pseudo flame
#

because that bitch will not be mist

peak escarp
#

the writers probably just liked the sound of the name

#

it's a pretty common name

vocal marsh
#

Most of the variations of Kiriko use the characters for empress or wood

#

So like the name is common but the character isn’t I don’t think

#

霧 means fog

#

桐 is a type of tree

#

And the actual name is 霧湖

#

Instead of 霧子

golden oak
vocal marsh
#

Uprising/Retribution/Storm Rising

peak escarp
pseudo flame
#

ko yes

#

"haha, i know that one"

#

me recognising a single kanji character and getting excited about it

vocal marsh
#

Ik it’s that one

#

But the common one isn’t written like that

#

Which makes me confused about the character choice

rare trail
#

in which case i dont think its good to call it a disability

limpid agate
#

It is literally a disability

limpid agate
rare trail
#

and genji right?

limpid agate
#

No

#

Genji has his

rare trail
#

hes got a bunch of scars around his eyes in dragons and the blackwatch skin has different color eyes than his normal ones

limpid agate
#

The whole point of taking off his mask was to show Hanzo his face/eyes

rare trail
#

that doesnt mean its his original eyes

peak escarp
peak escarp
rare trail
#

yea

#

or contacts or something

peak escarp
#

some canon skins have non-canon details

#

like Mei's teapot gun in Pajamei

ivory garnet
#

alot of canon skins have small differences to their shown counterparts

#

like talon widow and talon sombra

rare trail
#

talon sigma isnt canon right?

ivory garnet
#

not shown so yeah

rare trail
#

and can we assume all base skins are canon?

#

even if theyre never shown

limpid agate
#

Yes

#

That currently only extends to some OW2 designs

#

Ashe, Doomfist, Hanzo, Junkrat, Moira, Orisa, Reaper, Roadhog, Sigma, Soldier 76, Sombra, Symmetra, Hammond, and Zenyatta are the ones we havent seen yet

#

But its safe to assume those are canon, since the reason we havent seen them is because they have 0 lore appearances post Zero Hour

#

Doomfist, Sombra, and Zen do have scenes shown from the campaign, but those were 3 years ago before their new looks were revealed

torpid forum
vocal marsh
#

She has autism

half wraith
wind portal
half wraith
#

I guess

#

In a highlight intro torb drinks the molten stuff how?

peak escarp
#

yes it was voluntary

#

I think only her organs were replaced out of necessity

limpid agate
peak escarp
#

no

merry mason
# vocal marsh But why does Kiriko mean fog child

I’m not an expert but I looked up the meaning for different spellings of the name. One of them means child that will protect the village or something like that. That seems like it would fit her guardian spirit persona. Though it isn’t the same spelling I heard of Japanese names having double meanings like that before.

vocal marsh
#

But they give us the specific characters

merry mason
#

Yes I know that

#

But I’m saying it’s an intentional homogram of the other name

vocal marsh
#

I guess

#

I just feel like they should’ve just given us the characters for that definition then

merry mason
#

The literal name might refer to her being hidden in mist because she’s a ninja

vocal marsh
#

And made that her name

half wraith
#

Why does Reinhardt need rockets on his hammer

vocal marsh
merry mason
#

How else will it spit fire?

vocal marsh
#

“Fresh from the oven!”

merry mason
limpid agate
#

No

rare trail
rare trail
half wraith
#

How does the immortality field work

limpid agate
#

I guess you can argue Mei wasn't shown

#

Because this is the only appearance it has

#

And it cuts off most of the outfit

peak escarp
#

that was the one I was thinking of

worthy rose
rare trail
#

thats her name

#

mei ling zhou

limpid agate
#

Yeah

#

I dont understand the question

bold kiln
rare trail
#

she isnt

limpid agate
#

She isnt, she's holding up an index finger

west dirge
#

How many kids does Torb have?

peak escarp
#

unknown

#

we only know that Brigitte is his youngest

austere agate
#

which two heros would most likely have a romantic relationship lore wise? and why is it genji and mercy?

limpid agate
#

Because they're the only two that the writers have written to imply will have a romantic relationship

dim sphinx
iron plume
#

Kiriko is not the kitsune

limpid agate
#

I havent seen any kiriko hammond interactions personally

#

nvm I found it

#

Yeah he isnt

#

There's a second, but that's also not what you are suggesting

trail ridge
golden oak
#

Ana and Rein?

iron plume
#

No

#

Ana had a husband before she "died", and after her and Rein haven't met

golden oak
#

Yeah but like we don’t even see him and seems like they’re not together anymore

#

Even Fareeha doesn’t mention her father

iron plume
#

Ana and Rein have literally not met since her fake death

#

She's distant from her husband but that doesn't mean she's interested in Rein

limpid agate
#

Pharah spent Christmas with her father

iron plume
#

and Pharah met him, we saw it in Reflections

golden oak
trail ridge
#

Just bc they interact doesnt mean they are in a relationship

golden oak
ivory garnet
#

they may have flirty/romantic voice lines yes, but still doesnt take away the fact that Ana and Reinhard havent met again post-overwatch downfall

iron plume
#

Cassidy has flirty voice lines with half of the female hero roster

#

doesn't mean they're going to have a relationship

#

Genji and Mercy's are more deeply involved

golden oak
iron plume
#

No one else has valentine's/white day gifts

#

Ana isn't but Rein definitely is

golden oak
#

Btw, Valentine’s Day is soon
Maybe we’ll get some new event with s3 and new hints

limpid agate
#

S3 is before then

#

S3 starts next week

#

The trailer should release tomorrow

golden oak
peak escarp
#

the season trailers have the event trailers in them

ivory garnet
#

i thought we get trailer 3 days before

peak escarp
#

the S2 trailer was on Nov 29 - the Tuesday before Dec 6

cedar stump
#

where tf does reaper have the time to get a wife during omnic crisis and blackwatch

#

the reaper sombra voiceline confused me a bit

rare trail
#

well like hes not at work 24/7

#

especially during blackwatch

gritty furnace
cedar stump
rare trail
#

when do you think he had a son?

cedar stump
#

wait is that his son in that one comic or is it the new husband’s son

merry mason
#

i think the man is his son

gritty furnace
#

i love war crimes i think it is okay for him to do that

peak escarp
#

his son was only 6 in the flashback, about 10-12 present day

#

so he would have been born before Blackwatch got exposed

#

during the time when Overwatch was successful and popular

astral haven
#

Do you guys think they'll do something more with the Lore between Rammatra and Doomfist further on? Maybe when pve releases?

peak escarp
#

yes

astral haven
#

Because wasn't Rammatra's whole thing about saving omnics yet Doomfist whole thing made him send widow to kill that omnic leader

peak escarp
#

Ramattra disagreed with Mondatta's methods, and thought Mondatta should be punished for condemning Null Sector as terrorists

astral haven
#

He didn't want him dead though did he?

peak escarp
#

Rama wouldn't be upset over Mondatta's death

#

he'd see it as Mondatta getting what he deserved

astral haven
#

Also hello fellow cowfolk main. (I main Ashe)

peak escarp
astral haven
peak escarp
#

but we know that Doomfist and Ramattra are allies for the story going forward

astral haven
#

I also find that weird. Because he says some cheeky stuff to doom when he kills him in game

peak escarp
#

and I don't think Doomfist would allow Mondatta's murder if it would offend his new ally

#

a lot of the in-game dialogue is like that

#

it's just banter

astral haven
#

I personally thought it would imply that he's suspicious of Doom and maybe has plans to use him for his own ends. It would be interesting to have the two villains fight it out tbh

astral haven
peak escarp
#

I do think Doomfist will betray Ramattra

peak escarp
astral haven
#

Interesting

#

I'm also hoping Ramatra points out Bob eventually too. It struck me as odd that Ashe has a Omnic Butler and Ramatra has nothing to say about it

wooden cove
#

Bawb is bawb

#

And he’s not her butler

astral haven
#

Also, do you think they'll ever continue the Lore about Orisa being built to Counter Doom? In game voicelines between soldier and Orisa talks about how she nearly effortlessly chased Doom out of Numbani. As far as I know we haven't seen any more lore after that

peak escarp
#

one of Ramattra's friends seemed to be the same model as Bob

astral haven
# wooden cove And he’s not her butler

"Bob was Ashe's butler during her childhood. Since Ashe's parents were so busy, Bob took the majority of the responsibility of raising and caring for Ashe. Bob remained supportive, protective and loyal to Ashe even as she descended into delinquency."

astral haven
wooden cove
#

He’s bawb

#

🙂

astral haven
wooden cove
#

We need another Ashe cinematic

#

Featuring bawb

astral haven
#

I agree tbh.

#

I want more bob lore ngl

wooden cove
#

Fr

#

I need to see Bob and D.Va

#

Just because of her and Ashe’s interaction before matches

ivory garnet
#

Bob was a family butler for Ashe, turned gang member/father figure, thats all there is to it

astral haven
#

I love those interactions ngl

wooden cove
#

Yeah

peak escarp
wooden cove
#

The bap ones are funny too

peak escarp
#

Zera is the big one

ivory garnet
peak escarp
#

no

wooden cove
#

Bawb null sector skin

ivory garnet
#

thats a shame

wooden cove
#

Omnic skin

astral haven
peak escarp
#

they left because they didn't like where Ramattra was taking it

astral haven
ivory garnet
peak escarp
#

Zera and Nameless left

ivory garnet
#

is nameless the one sitting on the crate

wooden cove
#

Hopefully there’s a new Archive mode or something this year

ivory garnet
#

theres PvE..

wooden cove
#

I forgot about PvE

peak escarp
#

Nameless is the one with bunny ears

#

Lanet is the small one

astral haven
#

I see. Maybe he'd be against Bob then. It would be cool seeing Bob go to war with Ashe regarding Ramatra. Ramatra feels like he's a hypocrite in some aspects. For example echos interactions

ivory garnet
#

Null Sector wouldnt be fighting the Deadlock Gang

peak escarp
#

Lanet was killed during the King's Row mission

astral haven
#

And she kind of is the leader and all so y'know

rare trail
#

ram might see bob as a traitor that would make sense

#

he does kinda follow around a human and do what she says

astral haven
#

True but didn't bob gain sentience during the omnic crisis?

peak escarp
#

Bob cares for Ashe

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he would take her side

wind portal
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does bob finally do something?

astral haven
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Bob is going to war. (In all seriousness we're discussing whether the deadlock gang would fight null sector over Bob)

rare trail
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i dont think that would happen

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deadlock is just kinda doing their own thing

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null sector probably wouldnt care much

wind portal
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as long as they don't interfere with what null does I doubt they'd care

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we need more Roadhog solo stories though

peak escarp
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Bob went back to her after the crisis

wind portal
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I want Roadhog to have more connections

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outside of a hinted potential story between Roadhog and Pharah or atleast Roadhog and Helix

astral haven
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My thoughts were that what if Ramatra being as arrogant as he is got wind of Bob and decided that was the last straw. Maybe he'd have an issue with Bob and try to end "omnic slavery"

astral haven
wind portal
wind portal
astral haven
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I guess that's fair.

astral haven
wind portal
astral haven
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Also fair

peak escarp
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I like when he calls Genji "my brother's pet human"

wind portal
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I liked it when Genji just casually roasted Ramattra back

lost plover
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Which hero mains are the most compatible? I main Reaper.

ivory garnet
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Gang*

rare trail
rare trail
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and lucio reaper works pretty well

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dva winston work well with them too bc dive

ivory garnet
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not lore related but to help with your question. some simple heroes for each role that also are good are
Tank: Dva, Orisa, Ram
DPS: Soldier, Bastion, Reaper
Supp: Moira and Bap

rare trail
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moira?

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her healing is really close range

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she cant support reaper when he goes in

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bap kinda can

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so can ana

ivory garnet
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well its for simple, not the most tech

golden oak
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So does pharah work in like a company that makes rockets or something

ivory garnet
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She works for Overwatch now

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ex Helix Security

novel ivy
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Widowmaker got a cool story lowkey

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Just watched a video about her story etc

golden oak
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Just realised the end point at dorado is some type of base owned by lumerico

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What is that lumerico exactly?

peak escarp
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it's a power plant

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Lumerico is a power company

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the payload is delivering a core for the powerplant

warm locust
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And why do the defenders want to stop it?

peak escarp
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they're playing the role of Los Muertos, who disrupted the activation of the power plant

warm locust
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OHHHHHH

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Now, it all makes sense

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Thanks

peak escarp
summer tulip
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Are lumerico bad?

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In sombra origin it seems like they are hiding something

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There are scary eye symbols and then it cuts to lumerico symbol

peak escarp
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their CEO Guillermo Portero is corrupt

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he's doing backroom deals with Vishkar Sanjay

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which means he might have Talon contacts too

golden oak
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What was talon made for?

peak escarp
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we don't know why they started

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probably just mercenaries

golden oak
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So they’re just “evil organisation™️”

violet bough
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Who is junkrats mom

faint void
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thicc dicc nicca in da chatt

echo elk
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BITCH

golden oak
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Um

cerulean cliff
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junkrat doesnt have a mom. He has existed since the beggining of time. Junkrat is everything. Junkrat is all.

sharp trench
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doomfist reshaped that into an actual goal after his coup

golden oak
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Wait ashe’s real name is not Ashe????

limpid agate
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Yes it is

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Its her last name

peak escarp
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Elizabeth Caledonia Ashe

upbeat basalt
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how did dr liao die?

peak escarp
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she was killed in an attack on her lab

half wraith
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Would Hanzos arrows be deadly to characters like orisa and Reinhardt

peak escarp
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yes

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an arrow through the brain kills anyone

past copper