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he helps people fight in sync, so they can coordinate better
wait if sound barrier and that is canon he doesnt seem awful
think of it like those exercise classes that are set to music
like not great but not an easy worst
See I thought that at first too, but then I looked at his interactions and in general he's actually very positive toward animals
Well she'd be omnic-adjacent since her creator worked at the omnica or whatever, wouldn't she?
The point wasn't that she is an omnic
It was that she was created alongside them by Mina Liao
Not as one of them
she was created long after the omnics
Echo was created in the later days of Overwatch
fair enough
I still don't see why Ramattra would see her as a mockery of omnics
which was the whole argument
I don't think he would either
The voicelines, while not canon, do paint pictures of how the characters see/would see eachother if they interacted. And Ramattra seems to only truly dislike her socializing with humans
ram doesnt like echo but not because "shes a mockery of omnics"
its bc she likes humans
dw about it
i dont remember a man who got a black hole in his brain and his mind got fractured and then captured by a eugenicist terrorist group and then never appeared again
I do believe Ramattra sees her as equal to his kind, but just has a personal dislike of her being an "observant pet" to humans
yeah
like he doesnt like mondotta but he doesnt see him as a mockery of omnics
Ramattra does not seem to have a very good sense of humor, too
how much violence against omnics do you think ramattra has caused?
He doesn't like Junkrat's news reporter schtick, he finds Sombra's RAMattra wordplay petty,
i feel like there should be a distinction betwen sentient omnics and non sentient ones
Yet he laughs at Wrecking Ball's explanation of "A wheel would fall over"
Is Luna or whatever her name is sentient?
aurora?
this lady here
what is she from?
she appears on one of the france maps
I mean, she sings at a cabaret named after her, so probably
and i dont think civilian omnics were made after aurora anyway
he just wouldnt like junkrat at all
yeah
junkrat is racist towards them
even if junkrat said something he found funny he wouldnt laugh
I doubt that
there is no doubting
Junkrat is just insane, he doesn't know to hate anyone
all junkers hate/are racist towards omnics
read going legit
He never shows any direct hate towards omnics though
watch the plan or whatever that ones called
read going legit
"that one, hes all right. got his history straight. knows the omnics can't be trusted"
Fair enough
Though he does seem to try and be a better person in overwatch 2, judging from his voicelines
"getting paid to blow up omnics? almost too good to be true"
which ones?
The one with ana
"It's so hard judging right from wrong, if only there was someone to guide me" or something like that
idk
cant always rely on voicelines
hes still racist though like
"an adoptive mother, if you will"
ehhh
like you can just not be racist
you dont have to have ana telling you racism is bad
I mean, it's alot deeper than that
From that voiceline we can assume that junkrat had no parental figures in his life
Not to mention he grew up in racism town, so obviously he'd have sucked up all that negative energy and propaganda
He grew up hearing racism is good
yeah
but like
hes racist
just because we know why hes racist doesnt mean its okay for him to be racist
Until proven otherwise*
?
He's racist until blizzard gives half of the cast some actual character development which will hopefully happen in the pve
Because just his overwatch 2 design screams "reforming"
I'm not saying that he'll become unracist
But the possibility is there
what about it says that
His hair
He went from
"Hsbfjwjsheuwhdusj" to "G'day Ma'am how may I be of assitance"
He is reintegrating into society
He has obvious character development, we just have no idea what his character developed into
Yes
its just hair
like until we see him reintegrating into society we cant say anything
like he got a haircut
thats all
Wait actually?
yeah
Shit he does
he mocks people
could be cool for him to reform
junkrat’s entire character is supposed to look like an unprotected pyromancer
rest in piece battle mercy maniacs argument you will be missed
ye
He does seem a bit more sane and especially more professional though
its a foil to roadhog
junkrat is buff omg
Idk what it is but overwatch 2 junkrat looks less like a threat because he seems like he knows what he's doing
Meanwhile his overwatch 1 appearance is looks truly insane and unpredictable
he does know what he’s doing
Also he got healthier, his skin isn't pale anymore 
My argument about him reforming has risen from it's grave
he is pretty underweight though
Yeah gotta eat more
also idk how much u can trust his ow2 skin
bros gotta bulk up
we’ve only seen him in ow1 skin and scarecrow
Bro's gotta eat roadhog
Because blizzard likes to not give characters their story
Because you can only give so much attention to everyone
And because pve isn't even out yet
incredible how much healthier you can be when you're not in a city of irradiated metal
Anyways @peak escarp since your the professional, how canon would you rate the redesigns
they're all good
they're as canon as their OW1 designs
some of which we haven't seen in canon either
like Mei's
it was upgraded when he took it from his mentor, it can be upgraded again
his mentor wore it on his left arm
how did i miss junkrat talk
ye
fr
One of these days it’s gonna become a whole damn power suit
thatll be doom buff
Junkrat might be redeemable when he ceases being Junkrat
Cuz there's no erasing that he and Roadhog both killed innocent people/robbed the masses and have to answer for that eventually
Even Roadhog doesn't really like Junkrat most of the time, he just knows Jamison is the best person to fuck everything up with little effort
Imagine killing your husband in his sleep😴
imagine rescuing your wife from a kidnapping and just assuming she's okay to fall asleep around
i mean probably most junkers we get wont be above murder
survival in a collapsed area and all that
I don't want him redeemed, but I do want to see some character development of some kind
i mean she went through a psych evaluation and they didnt find anything to be suspicious
Wife issue tbh
fr
of course they didnt, being moira she surely understood how to hide it well
I want to know what Amelie was like before
Moira didn't do that
Is amelie widowmaker?
Moira was only responsible for her conditioning after she killed Gerard
She was a retired ballet dancer wasn’t she
Wife to some important guy that talon considered a threat
i just supposed she did first too, since she was treating her anyways, but yeah she joined talon after that
Weren’t both widow’s and sigma’s brainwash thing Moira’s doing
neither got brainwashed
widow was conditioned
sigma wasnt changed at all
by moira
wow she scaped a controling family for an even worse controling terrorist group, man i feel bad for her
Moira is responsible for altering Widowmaker's physiology so she feels less emotion and her heart beats slower (turning her blue)
Moira hasn't done anything to Sigma as far as we know
I thought talon influenced Sigma to work for them
Wasn't Widowmaker first designed to have wide open eyes all the time?
Yes
I’ve heard about that
i mean they are manipulating him
but he isnt brainwashed or anything
Oh ok
it was a good change, in some scenes she would look terrifying but if she was always open eyed sometimes she would just look like a fish
I mean imo manipulating a mentally unstable person should count as brainwashing
But that’s just me tho
Ehh, not really
i mean but they didnt brainwash him
he just doesnt know theyre terrorists
and eugenicists
Brainwashing is forcing someone to believe what you want them to
Manipulating people has more class and style
theyre just lying to him
They should’ve changed her pupils or something that would’ve been cool
Mid brainwashing vs chad lying skills
gaslighting lmao
Sigma is 62
i think sigma
Ana is 60
reapers 58
Reinhardt is 61
Does the hamster have fleas🤔🤔🤔
i think shes a year now
So how old is Reapers daughter
does reaper have a kid?
14 YEAR OLD HAMSTER????
a 48 year old weeb

ramattra doesnt exist ig
I made this before Ramattra was added
31 (40)
hes at most 30 right?
he's around 30 yeah
31 (40)
i imagine 40 is counting cryo
she got froze
Mei was 31 when she went into cryo 9 years ago
so she was born 40 years ago but its 31 biologically
I see
so biologically she's 31
and mentally too since stasis
but she has lived for 40 years
kiriko prob around same age as genji
Kiriko is 24
anti age cream
Her bio says she was 12 when Sojiro was killed, which was 12 years ago
Women magic
Poor genji
so then hanzo is like in his 20s here?
Why does kiriko not use a sword tho
assuming kiriko is at least 6 in that image
bc this games terrible
The fox becomes me!
I'd guess Kiriko is 5, Genji is 16 and Hanzo is 19
Oh I keep forgetting she’s not a shimada
damn the anti age cream real
who is older than you think they are?
bastion also is older than he acts but then again he spend since the omnic war deactivated
He’s a machine
idk if hes a full omnic
no like honestly not sure lol, he seems to have a personality and opinions and all that so surely he is
so if hes an omnic he can change and learn
He is an omnic
then he can mature
All machines that have sentient lives are omnics
like orisa was way more naive in ow 1 than now
The bastion units were a part of the omnic crisis
yeah then why would you assume he cant act based on his age as time hes existed, a person is not mature cause they grow grey hair as theres very wise young people, is experience and intronspection which are omnic capacities
obviusly he skips the whole being a child thing but he was still like a couple months worth of experience
we know that he has changed
he’s not a battle machine like all of his other models were
he’s friends with torbjorn’s group
yep thus the older than he acts
zen and ram for example have all that lived and act like many humans at their age would, well obviathing their both big deals
exactly
hes physically 30 but hes mentally just a kid, good thing hes not human there
Weird Hammond's description sort of counteracts what he's really up to lately
Torb made bastion? Right?
What’s the difference between conditioned and brainwashed in reference to how widowmaker was “made”
Do you brainwash your dog to go to the front door when it needs to take a piss?
make (someone) adopt radically different beliefs by using systematic and often forcible pressure.
How is this not what they did to widow
Because they didnt change her beliefs
She volunteered
And then they conditioned her
To learn more, please visit https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/widowmaker#story
Yes but what did they do to her to make her think killing her husband is good
Before she was taken by talon she didn’t want to kill her husband
And in present day
What happened in talon which made her want to do that
Like she killed her husband right after being kidnapped by talon
What did talon do to her
they made her into a sleeper agent
But like isn’t that process called brainwashing?
The way they made her into a sleeper agent
In the dead of night, Talon operatives kidnapped Amélie and subjected her to an intense program of neural reconditioning, in effect creating a sleeper agent. Gerard devoted Overwatch’s every resource to recovering his bride, and it wasn’t long before the operation produced results. His agents saved Amélie, and a medical and psychological evaluation after the kidnapping found her to be apparently no worse for wear. Their official assessment proved fatally inaccurate two weeks later . . . when they discovered she had killed Gérard in his sleep.
the description doesn't call it brainwashing, they call it neural reconditioning
I suppose it's effectively the same thing
intense neural reconditioning sounds a lot like forcing someone to adopt radically different beliefs
Idk
It’s just semantics anyway
the real question is... did she enjoy it because of what they did to her, or did murder awaken something in her that was always there?
I kinda want to believe it’s the latter but it’s probably the former
Interesting thing to think about though
maybe she could be rehabilitated, but that would be a boring end to her character
It’s mainly because of plot armor
he just needs to fight someone who isn't Winston
Fr
he did pretty good against the mechs in Infiltration
He fought Ana and soldier once
and would have killed Jack if Ana hadn't been there
Yeah
he retreated because he doesn't want to kill her
she's probably the only person in Overwatch he doesn't want to kill
(maybe Cassidy too - I can't WAIT to see that reunion)
How does he feel about genji?
he wasn't that close with Genji
Cassidy was pretty much his second-in-command of Blackwatch
there were 4 named heroes, but they had a whole base and support staff
plus they worked with Gerard
side note - the Retribution comic is so good
I love how the beep of the bomb transitions into the beep of the cardiograph
also this panel
the artist knew what he was doing
And that leads into the gameplay mission retribution?
yep
well actually
I’m hoping they will bring it back w/story mode but idk
it leads into the trailer
https://youtu.be/JMgzvpqzdTU
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which then leads into the mission
because the trailer ends with Cassidy narrating, and that's how the mission starts
three
Uprising, Retribution and Storm Rising
Storm rising is genji mercy tracer and rein iirc
yes
Uprising is torb tracer rein and Ana maybe
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Damn
There’s a really small chance it’ll get brought back when story mode comes out but probably not
Ig I just missed it
it's possible it will be brought back in the PvE
Which character has the deepest backstory
Imo. Sigma
no
he probably has one of the shallowest we have seen
he only has his origin story
Reaper, Tracer, Winston, Soldier, and Ana all probably have the deepest
But they have the most lore.Deepest is what hits hard or something like that right?
In neither case is it Sigma
Crazy mad man being used with problems in his head. VS man that who changed into a cyborg after family problems
I was gonna say zen has the shallowest but hes gotten a lil more cause of rammatra
he got slain by his own brother, left to die, probably had horrible body aches and pain during his construction of his new body, soldier puts the blame on genji for what blackwatch did, and he had to find harmony and peace within himself for his new body
yes, Sigma had a tragic backstory, but I wouldnt say its worse than Genji
i would rather be captive and insane, than my limbs getting sliced off by my own brother
I think I’d take a cyber body and enlightenment in exchange for family issues and beratement
Sigma got his brain sent into the 4th dimension by a blackhole and only got years in quarantine and being used as a weapon
Ok but would you rather be captive and insane or have a kickass robot ninja suit?
Genji has been learning from zenyatta for years(i think) and he learned to deal with it.
Sigma has not gotten time to restore
exactly because blizzard cant give every character the attention they need
Did normal history happen in overwatch lore?
Like did WW2 and other tragic events happen?
Yes
The Overwatch universe is like an alternate futuristic version of Earth
I know that, but I could've sworn that the devs said that a certain event or something didnt happen in the canon
Everything prior to 2016 happened in OW
So anything afterwards didnt
Like COVID or Ukraine
winton
fascinated with the future of Hanzo
its mysterious
and not easy to tell what will happen
she changes the darts as needed
changes when necessary
If I had a penny for every support hero where their whole gimmick is having the same abilities but one heals and the other damages I'd have 3 pennies
Zen has 2 orbs
Moira is all about her healing and damage
And Ana has her heal and antiheal stuff
Well her primary fire is the same thing
it both heals and damages
and in canon she has to manually choose when to do what
anti-heal and dmg isnt the same
Pretty sure anti is a synonym for opposite, and the opposite of healing is damage
the point is that the can both heal and damage people
with the same ability
her anti heal is not being able to heal someone
I know what ana does
Lucio strongest in verse no lies
Lol
winton overwatch moment
Is there any lore behind how Rein has basically every nationality type of skin?
skins aren't canon
the only canon rein skin is crusader
and ow1 and ow2 base skins
balderich and griefhardt are kinda canon
like that armor exists but rein wouldnt be wearing it
oh yeah and lieutenant wilhelm
strongest lore character is me
So will mercy biologically stay the same age forever
Why does everyone think this
As far as we know, every human character ages normally
no, Mercy ages normally
Im sorry but i saw ur pfp and clicked on ur profile to see ur bio and omg i agree so hard
about liking Cassidy
ohhhh
😭
Real
someone said a while ago that dva's in-game voicelines were "poorly chosen" or something similar. is that true and why?
i dont think they are, as they match up with her personality
What is poorly chosen is the lack of any voice lines that could indicate her personality from the short.
Reinhardt has his serious lines as well as his big boisterous Reinhardt lines.
And his short showed bothsides.
While D.Va in game is exclusively cocky gamer
And D.Va in the short is exclusively solemn and serious
If she had a few solemn and serious lines instead of literally 1 Eichenwalde line that didn't feel that solemn, it wouldn't be as jarring
And in OW2, I dont think they added a single line.
So she still just has a different personality in that short for no reason
Kind of like how Kiriko has 3 different personalities across all 3 of her appearances
Game, Short, and Story
Wait if tracer has the ability to control time, does that mean she never ages?
she cant control time
I remember something about that actually
She does age but it's very weird
Oh dang
Like it's not in the normal way that everyone else ages
because she's essentially lost to time
Technically yes she can
But I understand wym
She cant control it, more like phase between it, kinda ? 💀
It's more like a weird time shift
Yeah
and since this has been on my mind I might as well ask it, I'm assuming Hammond joined Overwatch at this point? since some Voice Lines are hard-pointing at Hammond joining overwatch in the actual game
no
hammond is adventuring the world pretty sure, unless he is still cooped up in junkertown
Interesting, considering we got some lore drops about Hammond and Winston's relations and it would've been interesting
neither have seen eachother since they both left lunar space colony pretty sure
Tracer ages normally
I know her aging has weird properties though
it doesn't
I think Chu explained it at some point
One more PSA for the day: Tracer does age. The characters some people assume are trapped in time (Tracer, Mercy, Widowmaker, Mei) all age.
the idea that she ages differently has never come up in the lore - it's an invention by the community
Ah, and another question I have. Did we finally understand what happened to Reinhardt when he got disbanded from Overwatch originally or did I just miss out on a part of the lore?
the details have never been given
just that something happened on a mission he was leading, and he was forced to retire
do we know the timeframe or was it just a random mission that he was 'forced' to retire?
We know the timeframe but not the mission
It was between Uprising and Storm Rising
Which were a year apart
What are the limits of Sombra's hacking in the canon?
Could she trigger D.Va's self destruction while also locking Hana in her mech?
The overdrive yes
But not the explosion itself
As that had to be caused by shooting the reactor
Blachwatch reyes for reaper
Strike commander Morrison for soldeir
Slipstream for tracer
These are all canon
Yes, SOME skins are canon
But you cant just look at skins and say
Yup these are all canon
The question was
Is there any lore behind how Rein has basically every nationality type of skin?
The answer
They're not canon
ok but are the gods canon?
Like did the gods of olympus or whatever really look like the heroes in overwatch lore?
No of course not
i still have to make the list
and finish it
its abt canon skins
quite a few
Reaper’s canon skins are his base skins, dusk, masquerade, soldier 24, and blackwatch
Where is Numbani located in Africa right now?
Why name a not existing country instead of using the existing one? Like we have all other countries in Overwatch
They Say its Somewhere near Nigeria!
No exact location?
And on the border of the African Savannah
Is using an African country considered as offensive?
I mean there's also Marvel with Wakanda
Not at all
does anybody know baps lore 🙏
Why would you think that?
I do a little bit.
pls share
Because you can just go with Nigeria instead of Numbani
Numbani is near Nigeria. Its to give geo contexte too.
Alright so Baptiste was born in Haïti i'll finish the story on my break.
aight then
Well but blizzard is gonna add one of the gods as a statue on illios
gods of Olympus event isnt canon
PvP isn’t necessarily canon, shouldnt be thinking it is
the whole world would be in shambles if “Gods” fought like that on an unstable plain
and if JQ was to have the most kills, it would make no sense for a JQ statue to be there in lore
There are also Horde heiroglyphics on Anubis
Its just Blizzard flavour
Same reason why Reinhardt's story has Junkrat and Roadhog, despite having never heard of their existence
bap was born into a war torn country and chose to join talon to try and get away from all that he was a basic foot soldier for a while but he decided to leave talon and has now joined overwatch
You are thinking of the gods as just the same characters.
They could be ancestors
Hell Zeus slept with almost anything
- it doesnt line up with their mythology
i think that the depictions of zeus just match up with jq in the lore
they just happen to look similar
and ilios just has a statue of zeus
(or whoever wins the olympus thing and gets the statue)
ok but why would people create a statue of a fucking cyclops or the minotaur
They're not gods
theyre cool
and greek related
only events that are cannon is junkenstein, and all the archive missions
storm rising, retribution, uprising
i dont think that olympus event is canon but the statue is what imn trying to explain
which would still make it canon, as its told in lore
like the story is canon but it didnt really happen
probably
i think that poseidon just happens to look like ramattra so if they made a statue of poseidon it would look like ramattra
and rein just kinda looks like a minotaur
I mean
Poseidon does not look like a robot at all
The minotaur isn't a small guy in a suit but instead just a big bull guy
maybe in ow lore he does
went into the soldier enhancement program with 76 and then joined overwatch when blackwatch was made he joined and became leader of that and then after overwatch fell he joined talon where moira experimented on him and when he almost died from an explosion a big dose of the stuff moira was experimenting on him with made him the wraith he is now
Thx
Does reaper get the life steal mechanic from moiras purple stuff
he doesnt have that in the lore
he can constantly regenerate and degenerate
so any hit that doesnt kill him he can come back from
I mean I’m pretty sure when he kills a person he uses his cells to take in another persons cells
Or that
i dont think theres any evidence forthat in lore
he knows and likes ana
Isn’t pve coming out this year?
Most likely will have to do with null sector
yeah
we already have kings row uprising and ram just released so theres a really good chance
Hopefully it isn’t just a recycled version of the last null sector event
I like mercy’s lore
idk hers is kinda boring to me
Okay im on my break. Lets talk about Baptiste !
So Baptiste was born in Haïti but just before the Omnic crisis. After a lot of turmoil because of the Omnics, Talon came and 'saved' the town. After that Baptiste wanted to make some changes. So he joined Talon. But After seeing that they plunder and killed. He Saw a kid just like him and it clicked. He was doing more harm than good. So he deserted Talon and joined Overwatch.
Atleast thats what i remember.
oh shit u remembered 😭
Thats not accurate
I just found out that widow maker has a voiceline where when she kills tracer, she says: “Looks like I hit you this time”. And in the widowmaker trailer tracer dodged the bullet but mondetta got hit instead. Idk if you guys alr know this but like me being me I just found out 
I know thats why i said thats what i remember and i abriged it because of Time contraint.
She also has a voice line when she kills Ana that’s something like “now I got your other eye”
Yea
he was an orphan that joined the Caribbean Coalition when he was of age, which was basically a united army for the countries in the caribbean, and he became a combat medic/spec ops.
Idk the story behind ana eye patch can someone tell me
Widowmaker shot her
Once he was done serving in the military, he joined Talon, which was a mercenary group that was looking for combat medics
she has a trailer so u could watch that 🙀
Ana is a better shot than widow though
Yeah they did a pretty Bad job.
I see, I will
Ana just hesitated and was punished
His time with Talon started as just mecenary work, but then they started putting him in worse and worse missions, and he got disgusted with what he became, so he deserted
There’s a comic about it
I just got into Overwatch lore so like 
Cassidy recruited him into Overwatch years later
It’s called like legacy or something
Oh i know that one
Talon had nothing to do with it
Talon may have not even existed at the time
They had no part in it
They're unrelated
I think im mixing up thing so it was the omnics?
Or was it just a big riot?
What are you talking about
Well for Baptiste !
Anubis attacked Baptistes home when he was a kid
Baptiste joined the military after the Crisis ended
He didnt fight the crisis or a riot or Talon
Or anything notable
Has he done anything in ow yet?
No
He just joined
He did help in Korea fend off the Gwisin in New Blood #5
Thats it
Pretty sure baptist was with talon with someone else and they both switched to overwatch. He gets called a traitor by a talon member
He was
Years after the crisis
bap joined a carribean military then joined talon then joined overwatch
Like, 20 years after
how old is bap?
Aight
36?
no specific person
mauga ig
baptiste was just a foot soldier in talon
How canon is brit considering there's billboards of her in kanezaka
she seems to be a mascot for a virtual travel house
so she's canon meaning that she exists, but she's a fictional character within the world
yes bestie is real
Sorta
It's a character that had mechs as her abilities back when they were designing for Prometheus, which was the game that was scrapped and had its assets used for Overwatch
What I still would like to know is what they meant by support and damage mechs
I'd love to play dps or support d.va
I think it would be cool if Sojurn had more lines with Genji because they're both highly cybernetically augmented humans.
Wouldn’t make much sense if that’s the only reason
Literally Torbjörn and Doomfist are cybernetic augmented humans
But you don’t see them interacting with each other or others like them for that only reason
Well I’m the lore technically people do get shot
well, there's more reasons than that as to why I'd want more interactions between Sojourn and Genji, especially in Storm Rising where she kind of helped him figure out his new cyborg body
Anyone want watermelon
getting shot doesnt seem that bad in ow
like winston can shrug off bullets
ana surived a headshot
Ana had a concussion and amnesia
Winston wears armor
getting shot is as bad in Overwatch as it is in real life
also Tracer got shot in the lung
and needed eight hours of surgery
if you didn't get immediate medical attention
tracer did so
it wouldn't kill you instantly
only thing that isnt lore accurate is she cant hack titan class omnics
as she can in lore
notrre
i mean like being able to hack enemy gadgets to be beneficial to you like winstons shield or teleporters
stuff like that
lore accurate sigma would be another thing though
you'd just insta-win fights if you were able to control gravity on a level that sigma can
idk the random gravity things around him seem kinda good
he has a lot of experience with gravity from the stuff we do know about him in lore however
its speculation that makes him that strong in lore
Symmettra ain't speculation though
she could singlehandedly take down talon if she really wanted too
when was symm apart of this, she is 2nd strongest
if we're talking op overwatch characters
whats monkey boys lore
Winstons lore is i dont know
he was a specimen on the Horizon Lunar Colony to test the long-term effects of living in space
the other apes on the colony rebelled against the scientists, killing them
Winston liked the scientists, so he built a rocket and returned to earth and joined Overwatch
do we know how Doomfist's gauntlet works or is it just 'punch things harder'?
it hasn't been explained
Also he named himself after the scientist who taught him everything (he died) also Hammond (wrecking ball) was part of the experiment and he went to earth by making an escape pod and attaching it to winston’s rocket but the hook eventually broke and he landed in Australia
then hammond became like champion of the junktown's fighting thing yes?
Indeed
Has a good relationship with Junker queen, in game she asks him to make her things and he accepts saying it’s too easy
Damn, I like seeing the wholesome relationships between heros
Wouldn't getting shot by Ana's healing darts during battle be annoying?
And what happens if she hits a vital or important area?
Imagine it gets in between the cheeks
Imagine her team just walking out of battle with a bunch of darts stuck in their backs
And poor Rein not getting any heals
Lol they would get overdosed and faint lmao
Idk if they would faint or not but whatever the side effects are they won't be fun
The same thing as healing zen/bastion
I think ana’s weapon doesn’t shoot darts or anything solid
Probably compressed healing liquid/gas like in Baptist’s bombs
yes i know its darts
Ana's rifle shoots darts that contain something that heals using the same tech as mercy's staff
They just said it doesnt shoot darts and you agreed
darts use liquids to extract the healing or dmg process
!!loreComics
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Tracer - London Calling:
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Cassidy - New Blood:
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i thought they said it does, i misread
yes i know, ive sent that ss here before
Hero Teasers:
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Retribution McCree: https://bit.ly/2WP3U3y
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it touches up about how her rifle works, but im pretty sure her darts use biotics like mercy’s staff, soldier’s healing pod
Yes
i just misread their comment, as i thought it said it is darts
Then what about Baptist?
!!shitposting
Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
its not shitposting its real
some people do be finding basic instructions hard
no extended sigma lore why live 😔
Genji is the best
my guy was made after the abilities were made
still 😔
Why does everyone always say to hanzo something along the lines of him being a coward or something like that
prob bc he killed his bruvha
what lines are you referring to?

I looked it up! He killed his brother
well you right kinda
he said he killed him
but he was still aline
now he cyborj

He basically ruined his reputation within the shimada clan and unlike Genji doesn't want to seek help
How did he do that?
he didnt ruin is reputation
they wanted him to kill genji
he was following orders
but he still didn't, IIRC he didn't want too
atleast their relationship is more lore accurate in game than it was in OW1
my boi hanzo was straight up toxic towards genji
what are their interactions?
also genji could beat hanzos ass in a fight its not even close
Hanzo constantly doubting that the current Genji was his brother
a bit of resentment mostly
this is true and shown in the cinematic that genji could just kill hanzo anytime he wanted
When Ram talks to Pharah about being, "One of Anubis' Jailers", and that... "You should've destroyed it"
what does that mean?
What is Anubis (other than the place)
read the comic "Mission Statement"
the god program Anubis was quarantined in the Temple of Anubis after the omnic crisis, which Pharah's team is supposed to be guarding
Anubis was the cause of the omnic crisis
sheesh
he doesnt doubt that its his brother tbf
he’s just shocked and conflicted
clouded mind and judgement
need more junk lore
atleast we know he is or was a scientist at some point
I wanna know about his damn arm
He was something before he went crazy though
probably bomb related but it's not confirmed how he lost his arm, if I remember correctly he has a voiceline about the leg
junk has the potential to be the best writen character in overwatch
Junkrat is a joke character
man I love how they fixed the interactions between Symmettra and Zenyatta though
in OW1 Sym was a dick to Zen in the game even though Sym sought him out for advice in lore, and now in OW2 Sym is a lot more kind to Zen
apparently Wrecking Ball inspired the riptire
Don't blame Junk tbh, Hammond is essentially king of the arena
that would make sense actually
Hanzo’z father was killed, Hanzo becomes leader of the clan, elders ask Hanzo to kill his brother, Hanzo agrees, Hanzo realises what he’s done and leaves the clan out of shame, to honour his brother he still goes back to the place they fought and does some Japanese culture things idk also he doesn’t use swords anymore because he used one to kill his brother, one time when he’s honouring his brother some cyborg appears and reveals himself to be Genji
Sigma solos
LIke there's a difference between stabbing a dude and whatever happened to Genji
Like Hanzo was just supposed to kill Genji, not literally cut him to pieces but somehow still not kill him
I want to know what exactly he bloody did lol
Hanzo after giving genji the EP3 Anakin special (He was just trying to teach him discipline lol)
Hanzo must have the most lore written for him.
He was actually the higher ups told Hanson to kill him as genii wouldn’t oblige to their demands
hi
more ball lore
Straighten out, not kill
Roadhog ate it off when one time... hyperventilates, ONE TIME THEY WERE IN A BIG JAIL CEELL, ROIGHT??
AND ROADIE GOT THE MUNCHIES
AND THENNNNNN!
Roadhog ate it
like how he eats everything around him
including pachimaris
where do they talk about that?
like is there a short story about it?
Mostly through interactions and other hints I believe.
But yeah, Hanzo wasn't told to kill Genji, just to get him in line and to act more mature.
They broke into an argument which then broke into a fight, with Hanzo messing Genji up pretty bad. Believing he killed him, he fled the scene, or something.
Then Overwatch shortly after showed up, likely to sort out the clan.
!!loreheroes hanzo
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thats kinda weird lore
like oopsie woopsie i accidentally killed someone
by chopping of their legs and arm
maybe by forced to kill him the elders said something like if genji refuses you have to kill him or hanzo did it out of obligation because he thought the elders would say that
we don't know what Hanzo did to Genji, only that he was left unable to walk
it's possible that Hanzo just delivered a single blow that severed his spine
and the limb replacements were all part of becoming a cyborg
my guess is that Hanzo asked Genji to fall in line, Genji refused, Hanzo got angry and lashed out
he does seem to have anger issues
God I love the rein + ana voice lines
I swear if blizz doesn't give us a nice cutscene with rein meeting ana again in the pve
Ima be mad
Ana probably wont be in the PvE
W
the doomfist short is so good
he isnt in it
he wouldnt have known about the recall and wasnt recruited in new blood
Genji told him to "pick a side"
kiriko is kinda like orisa
but didn't outright invite him to join Overwatch
like kiriko just cares about protecting her city just like orisa
i feel like ramattra is the “new” main villain of overwatch and not doomfist
To lame tho
extremely anti-climactic but okay
there’s gotta be at least some build up
hell, it could even be through a cinematic with Ramattra and his presumed work with Talon
cinematics are likely
Hi anyone on
rein vs ram 1v1
Talon will always be the main antagonist
not as of right now though
the focus is on null sector
PvE’s focus is still on both groups
talon will 100% be coming back but there hasn’t been much happening with them
we fought Talon in Retribution and Storm Rising
and they have been shown as an enemy faction in the PvE
because her heart is slowed
she's an experiment of moira's
its not finished yet so the skins tones might not be perfect
also is that implying that widow can shoot shurikens out of the air?
Widow is an extremely trained assassin so yeah
though Genji would still be the better of the 2 imo
yeah genji is way more powerful than widow
Widowmaker is most effective when you don't know she's trying to kill you
in a 1v1, Genji would win
everyone is most effective that way
at range, Widowmaker would win
Genji can handle himself against range
he's superior to hanzo after all
and I would place my bet on hanzo being more skilled at range than widow any day
he might be able to deflect though
deflect what
the bullet
with
mhm
Widowmaker is a better shot than Hanzo
she's also skilled at hand to hand combat, but Genji is a cyborg
genji could undoubtedly get up close to widow so it wouldnt be hard for him to win
he'd overpower her
quite interested on if sombra will canonically hack genji’s suit during the mission tho
I wonder if she even can
can she hack cybernetics?
i dont think so
i doubt she could hack genji
I would only expect her to be able to hack things that have computers
we've seen her hack omnics and security systems
I doubt, I don't think it's the same as Sojourn's cybnertics
they’re both cybernetics
just because it isnt sojourn’s doesnt mean she cant hack them
I doubt Sombra would even be fast enough too even if she could, considering Genji is faster
we havent seen sombra try and hack cybernetics
its a 2v1, widow can distract
doesnt take long for sombra to hack something
Genji would probably just blitz both before they can do anything, since Genji can more consistently track Tracer which Widow struggled to
She couldn't keep up with Tracer in a 1v1
The only reason she managed to catch tracer was because she got super lucky with her venom placement
Tracer was only mildly inconvienced by it, a solid 99% of that fight Widowmaker was struggling to keep her optics on her because of how faster she is
she was tracking tracer perfectly fine, ofc she would have trouble with it due to it being at close distance. Widow tracked Tracer going up the stairs perfectly fine, knew where she was going hence her venom mine, and outsmarted tracer
widow won that 1v1
no luck was needed
it was when Widow went for the shot on Mondatta that she was able to finally beat tracer but that was only because tracer got so incredibly pissed off
Tracer got mad after she saw Mondatta dead
and Widow didnt try to fight her after that since her work was done and she was ready for pick up
and we still don't have an overwatch vs talon civil war styled fight yet smh
widow won that 1v1 v tracer in alvie
alive
i dont understand why she didnt just take the shot at the beginning on mondotta though like she had a second before tracer interrupted her
for the drama
King's Row has to be the worst place to live in though fr
Are you mocking the UK or is it because of the Omnic uprise?
more like a mix of shitty people and the omnics that hate the humans
Widow
Ana
true
Ana outclasses everyone in Aim
Ana is indeed better than widow, widow was able to take her eye but before that ana hit her in the head with a bullet
bastion might be better given hes a robot and all
Ana was in a bad position when Widow managed to get the hit on her
ana only lost the duel bc she hesitated
She was shocked when she saw widows face and realised who she was
She was caught off guard which is why she lost her eye
I thought she was a pirate
What does that have to do with the story
Ana was the better shot, but she hesitated