lore-discussion

[limpid agate]

That skin and young Ana have her cybernetic eye

[grim pawn]

oh, i see! so it's more subtle than i thought, that slipped my mind
then what even is ana's eye in the botanist skin supposed to be? hmm

[limpid agate]

A skin

Its not canon

[grim pawn]

ok..................................

[raven forge]

Who is your fav villain in overwatch lore?

[delicate knot]

Lmao

[dawn topaz]

the cinematic trailer children

[peak escarp]

Ramattra

[past copper]

Ramattra has overtaken Doomfist as my favorite villain

He just has a better villainous goal in my opinion

[peak escarp]

he's just so charming and charismatic

[dreamy epoch]

more casualties

[sweet tide]

i think

[lofty snow]

Doomfist

[ivory garnet]

not every skin is canon

[drifting viper]

Ramattra

I like doomfist and his flawed logic but i like ramattras voice lines in game more

I think he looks cooler

His backstory is cool

And he is connected to zenyatta whos my favourite character in the game

[worthy rose]

Fun fact: if Lúcio dies by Reinhardt's charge, he has a specific voice line that plays when he respawns.

[dapper relic]

is genji a robot

[onyx belfry]

HANZO wants to ride Orissa's back

[dawn fractal]

Who doesn't

[peak escarp]

he's a cyborg

[dense nebula]

What is it

[lilac estuary]

So like.. the dots/lights on omnic foreheads... the omnics all have different amounts of lights and such, do they mean anything specific, or related to the model, or is it just purely for cosmetic?

[peak escarp]

they're just sensors

[lilac estuary]

Ohhh they are??

We see that ramattra has got eyes under his mask, so im gonna assume that the other omnics have them too.. so what exactly would the sensors be there for if they have eyes that (should) work?
Or am I just thinking too hard about how omnics work. But I'm genuinely interested by them

[peak escarp]

those eyes are basically cameras

their sensors detect other things

[warm summit]

Do we have a guage on how powerful kirikos fox spirit is

[rare trail]

Not really all we know is what’s in the short

[warm summit]

Alright thank you

[rare trail]

Maybe dragon strength given she trained with Shimada

[warm summit]

That would make sense

But i know the dragon spirits are hard to guage (in relation to other characters “power level”)even tho they have extra lore

[rare trail]

I wonder if like genjis mom and dad had dragons

[warm summit]

I would think so

At least one

Unless you can inherit it through marrige, like if the spirit chooses someone who is worthy?

Or maybe its just the bloodline

[worthy rose]

"Honestly, getting knocked out by Reinhardt Wilhelm? Kind of an honor."

It's crazy to me because I’ve never heard of a respawn voice line like this before.

Didn’t even think they were a thing.

[rare trail]

I didn’t know if respawn ones but I knew a few like how Lucio says “does this make you a dead beat” to reaper when he kills reaper

[worthy rose]

No, this is when he respawns after getting killed by Rein. I even got a video of it.

[rare trail]

That’s cool

[worthy rose]

It makes me wonder… how many other voice lines are there?

[tacit galleon]

it would be cool to have a gamemode with lore accurate teams, u know like the overwatch team, talon, etc

or just "good vs bad"

[gilded zinc]

fr

[worn island]

I dont think the most recent pinned message works?

the link just leads to an error page

[hidden dragon]

Does someone know in wich season they will implement story mode

Ah nice thx

[gray beacon]

Tank and support section will be always eith good side lol

With*

[ivory garnet]

her fox spirit is just the thing in the short of her’s

its nothing like the dragons

[sullen raptor]

Its a support fox so...theres really no measure how strong it is

🤷‍♀️

[worthy rose]

So how did junkrat even get into the team

[limpid agate]

What are you talking about

He isnt on any team

The Junkers aren't a team. That's like saying people from New York is a team.

That being said, he got kicked out of the Junkers

[versed torrent]

I think they mean the overwatch team? Consirering lore channel

[worthy rose]

My bad?? Calm down I'm literally new

[worthy rose]

Yeah I'm new so I don't know much of the lore

[versed torrent]

Just dont bother and enjoy the game lol, youll probably find out more over time and it will be less confusing than if you were told all of it in a rush

[limpid agate]

@worthy rose No worries, sorry if it sounded too abrassive, I was confused what you were talking about

Not all the heroes are part of Overwatch

[versed torrent]

Some are villains lo

[limpid agate]

Here is an image of alliances put together by Doctor Six

The Junkers, Hanzo, Kiriko, and Symmetra are mostly neutral

Symmetra and Sigma are kinda neutral kinda not

They dont know they're working for terrorists

[worthy rose]

Oh

[dawn topaz]

Let's discuss moira's anime list

[dawn topaz]

wdym former shimada did hanzo lose his last name?

[broken cargo]

its also a crime organization

he isint part of it anymore

[limpid agate]

The Shimada Clan. He left it after he thought he killed Genji, and then it was dissolved by Overwatch

[rare trail]

that would be really cool like a few fights from the shorts but playable

like a really powerful doom vs genji tracer and winston

[merry mason]

can you really count kiriko as former shimada? she was a kid, she didn't work for them.

[peak escarp]

she was part of their sphere of influence, and grew up with the brothers

her mother and father both worked for them

[rare trail]

does she know genji is alive?

[peak escarp]

not yet

[rare trail]

like what does the public know about genji like presumably they know about the giant fight between hanzo and genji and they know about cyborg ninja man in overwatch but they dont know its genji?

[peak escarp]

correct

[rare trail]

why doesnt winston or mercy like release that information?

[peak escarp]

why would they?

[rare trail]

i mean like it would let genji have a more normal life you know

like he doesnt have id or anything rn he cant live normally

[peak escarp]

why wouldn't he have ID?

who says he can't live normally?

the public doesn't need to know his identity for him to have a normal life

[merry mason]

I understand kirikos relationship with the family but she never actually did work for them. Pharah grew up around overwatch but nobody would call her "former overwatch" (even though that wouldn't affect her placing in the their list

[peak escarp]

Pharah was never considered a member of Overwatch (until Cassidy recruited her)

[merry mason]

that is my point

[peak escarp]

Kiriko and her family were part of the Shimada clan

not family members, but part of their empire

not everyone in a yakuza clan is blood related to the head of the clan

[rare trail]

because he was a shimada

he is legally dead

[merry mason]

she was neither blood related or a member of the organization (yet) she was very close and she was sympathetic to them but just because her parents joined doesn't mean she automatically does

[rare trail]

like genji shimada is dead

[merry mason]

just get a fake id or say he's the other " genji shimada the ninja"

[peak escarp]

lots of people have the same name

Genji could just get a new ID through Overwatch

or just live without one

he's basically a hermit, probably not much need for an ID

[wispy light]

What did Vishkar do that makes everyone hate them?

I'm still new to Ow2 so it's new

[dawn topaz]

I thought only Lucio personally dislikes Symmetra?

[peak escarp]

Vishkar takes over neighborhoods in the name of progress and enforces tight curfews and exploits the people

they're typical corporate greed

[wispy light]

Oh.. is Symmetra aware of what's happening?

[rare trail]

kinda

she thinks theyre helping people but has her doubts

[frank pelican]

Is echo sentient? From what I've heard she's just an AI learning, and AI isn't necessarily sentient like zenyatta, mundatta, and rammatra is

Because they gained conciousness echo seems to have just been built to act concious

[peak escarp]

anything that has senses is sentient

the word you're looking for is sapient

as for that... 🤷‍♀️

what's the difference between acting sapient and actually being sapient?

[frank pelican]

because you're not actually sapient?

You're not actually present in reality you're not an entity

zenyatta litterally has like magic he "woke up"

[peak escarp]

I mean what difference does it make?

[frank pelican]

but echo is just a robot

[frank pelican]

Ones fake ones real

[peak escarp]

and?

does that change who the characters are or their role in the story?

[frank pelican]

Echo was programmed to act like she's living, zen and rammatra are actually living

[frank pelican]

It's just a question

[peak escarp]

a question we don't know the answer to

[frank pelican]

Ok

[shadow marsh]

She's an adaptive AI so kind of

[thorn oyster]

hi i just started playing mercy... is 5-7k healing good or no?

[frank pelican]

So she's not "awaken" like zenyatta is

she hasn't seen the iris or anything like that she's just a regular old robot

I should've asked if she had a soul like zenyatta and rammatra have

[rare trail]

omnics have souls but echo isnt an omnic

well some omnics have souls

the ones that were around when aurora ascended are

[frank pelican]

Makes sense

[shadow marsh]

Yes

[rare trail]

i dont think orisa is sentient like the other omnics are

like she is sentient but she didnt become sentient through aurora efi gave her personality modules

[shadow marsh]

However the way she is built she's supposed to be an advanced version of an omnic

She's an AI that learns and so far she believes in logic

Eventually she'll progress more

Maybe to the point of a rational mind(?)

[frank pelican]

But she doesn't have a soul therefore zen is better

[peak escarp]

how do you know she doesn't have a soul?

how do you know Zenyatta does?

what even is a soul?

[latent horizon]

Hi

[worthy rose]

She’s an AI

[worthy rose]

His entire lore

[rare trail]

what lore makes you think he has a soul

[worthy rose]

“ the spiritual or immaterial part of a human being or animal, regarded as immortal.”

[peak escarp]

you can't prove a soul exists

Zenyatta is also an AI

[worthy rose]

Yes, you cant. you couldn’t ever even prove a human has a soul

But Zenyatta’s lore is that he is travelling the world preaching that omnics have souls

And In a game with magical spirit dragons and foxes, souls are not far fetched at all.

[peak escarp]

you don't need to ping me every time

so then Orisa has a soul, since she's an omnic

[worthy rose]

Yes

But Echo doesn’t

Echo is just a well programmed AI

[peak escarp]

what's the difference?

Echo isn't an AI - she's a robot who has an AI

Anubis and Athena are AIs

[worthy rose]

Pretty much nothing, Echo is so well programmed AI that she may as well inherently have a soul and is essentially living

[shadow marsh]

Speaking of AIs

[worthy rose]

Who are these 2?

[rare trail]

anubis is the monic uprising guys

and athena is the person who created echo i thought

[shadow marsh]

Are there more AIs other than Anubis and Athena?

[peak escarp]

Anubis is the AI "god program" that caused the Omnic Crisis

Athena is an AI made by Dr. Liao before she made Echo

[rare trail]

and athena is in echo right?

[peak escarp]

they probably share programming

they're "sisters"

but they not the same entity

[shadow marsh]

Had to find the first overwatch short

What exactly did he said here, before he mentioned Athena?

Oh videos aren't allowed

https://youtu.be/sB5zlHMsM7k
3:22 Can't hear other words than Calvin

[peak escarp]

you mean in Recall?

[shadow marsh]

Yes

[peak escarp]

Talon

not Calvin

[shadow marsh]

Finally

[peak escarp]

?

[shadow marsh]

Been thinking too hard whatever word he said

Just misheard

[grim pawn]

i would think she inherited her "soul" through the OR15 that she was built from
it was busted up but it was never said to be "killed" or anything like that

i think the story is a little nebulous here, but i dont think it is the writers' intention to imply that orisa isn't an awakened omnic

after all, ramattra recognizes her as one

[carmine meadow]

dang thats some crazy lore

😱

[opaque scroll]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[stark spear]

genji double blade shining dimensional breaking waltz

[keen summit]

yeah moira has a line bout it too to her

saying that dr liao like athena more than echo

[warm phoenix]

why these mods delete my msg's ( ramratta traveling monk)

[dawn topaz]

Is Ashe's dynamite an omnic?

[molten shore]

Kinda look like bastions face

[iron plume]

Not everything with an LED is an omnic

[limpid agate]

No. Why would you even ask this

!!shitposting @worthy rose

[twilit nacelle]

@arctic ibex Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[dry oak]

got in a match as Reinhardt, with Mercy, Cassidy, Tracer and Lucio.
Lucio said "Woah, Overwatch! I'm a big fan!" (might be wrong, because I'm translating and my memory is bad)
this is why I love this game lmao

[dawn topaz]

Lucio also says something like "Honestly ngl, getting killed by willhelm mf reinhardt is an honor"

[dry oak]

does it matter?

+_+

[dry oak]

this game is so cute

love things like this

[limpid agate]

He doesnt say that

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[dawn topaz]

Yes he does I heard it myself

[drifting viper]

What does ramattra mean when he says something about anubis to pharah

Whats anubis

why did he want it destroyed sooner

and why did pharah not expect that response

[dawn topaz]

It's like this evil omnic thing that iirc caused omnics to lash out and cause the crisis

It's like an evil AI God

[gray kayak]

This channel is for serious lore discussion. Do not post nonsensical or offtopic things in this channel.

[sharp trench]

was Rammatra against the crisis starting?

[limpid agate]

No, he couldnt

The Omnic Crisis was 30 years ago

When do you think Sigmas accident was

That gave him his powers to manipulate gravity (not create black holes)

He also isnt that powerful

Hes strong. Hes not Magneto

Sigma, Winston, Orisa, or Symmetra

Her Hard Light manipulation is overpowered and has unknown limits

Shes like a Green Lantern but can't go into space

@sharp trench @drifting viper Ramattra is against being manipulated. He wants his people to live peacefully, but Anubis controlled them and turned them into war machines. And theoretically has the power to do it again

The Null Sector units we fight are mindless drones rather than true omnic people

[peak escarp]

that line is about Aurora, whom Dr. Liao also made

[noble pendant]

Sombra has a voiceline on Gibraltar that I thought of now that Gibraltar is gone

That goes something like "I wish Overwatch would come back just so I can get some new intel about this place."

So does that mean Sombra doesn't know Overwatch is back?

[limpid agate]

It's not really the same

Winstons Overwatch is like, 12 people

The original Overwatch was thousands

She also knows it's back. The whole world knows it

Talon knew the moment Winston sent out the Recall

And by extension, Sombra

[dawn topaz]

Sombra is simply a genwunner of overwatch

[lament spruce]

Doomfist: Curse me all you want, without conflict there is no future for humanity!

[glossy arrow]

would you consider ramattra nationality to be egyptian?

[dense nebula]

Why do you say that?

Was he built in an Omnium in Egypt?

[glossy arrow]

actually probably not

something doctor six said in a different server changed my mind

[rare trail]

hes kinda based off of egyptians

[past copper]

No. He was built in an Omnium somewhere cold

[glossy arrow]

just know that the overwatch wiki should be treated as fake news

[past copper]

Ramattra literally had a short story that described where he was built

Somewhere cold with snow and ice. But we don’t know where

[glossy arrow]

yeah it was an omnium built by anubis but in some icy place

possibly siberia, possibly antartica, but no clarification iirc

[past copper]

The omniums weren’t built by Anubis

[glossy arrow]

i disagree

[past copper]

They were built before Anubis

[glossy arrow]

the short story says: an omnium. built by anubis.

word for word

[merry mason]

some were built by him

the one mentioned in the story was contrasted with the human built ones. it was said to be non-ergonimic

[glossy arrow]

i lost my image perms otherwise i would send proof

[worthy rose]

I’m the biggest bird

[past copper]

Ramattra is literally the one who said that. To him, Anubis is basically a god of machines. He probably refuses to believe humanity built them

[worthy rose]

I’m the biggest bird

Sigma and Zen strongest in lore

Iris

And gravity

Ez

[merry mason]

in lore zen doesn't have the iris powers

[worthy rose]

Yes he does

[past copper]

Proof

[worthy rose]

I saw it that’s my proof

Deal with it

[merry mason]

wow this guys a loremaster

[past copper]

So no proof other than game. So fake news

[worthy rose]

bro

You have no brain and I do have proof

[past copper]

Give proof then or give up

[worthy rose]

No

[keen summit]

well its most likely some were build by humans and then anubis built secret ones for his own creations

[peak escarp]

"Built by machines for machines."

[worthy rose]

Guys zen 1 of the strongest in lore

I have proof

[past copper]

Maybe. But do you honestly expect Ramattra, who hates humans with a passion, to acknowledge that humans built Omnics in any way?

[worthy rose]

It’s 9 pages king

[keen summit]

he legit does tho?

[merry mason]

why would he not do that it's a fact

[rare trail]

zen?

[worthy rose]

Yes

[rare trail]

why

[worthy rose]

Zenyatta is that how you spell it?

[rare trail]

yeah zenyatta

[keen summit]

hes always acknowledged humans created omnics, but anubis made his kind cuz why would humanity create a omnic that leads other omnics?

[rare trail]

but hes not strong

[past copper]

The guy is just shitposting to get attention for his main Zen

[rare trail]

hes just an omnic

[worthy rose]

No

[keen summit]

but hes correct bout the omniums

• ram hates anubis

[past copper]

That conv isn’t about Ramattra. It’s bout the guy saying Zen is strongest

[rare trail]

hes just an omnic my guy

[keen summit]

ramattra also hates anubis tho

[worthy rose]

he has iris

[peak escarp]

the Iris allows him to heal

[past copper]

Either give proof or give up. You’re just shitposting

[peak escarp]

that doesn't make him the strongest

[rare trail]

i dont think thats canon

[peak escarp]

plenty of heroes can heal

[worthy rose]

It is

[rare trail]

where is it shown

[keen summit]

it is, we dont know what it makes him capable of

he could be strong, but nothing points at it

[rare trail]

where is it shown?

[past copper]

Sox has 0 proof and is just shitposting at this point. They just don’t wanna look stupid for pushing it this far

[worthy rose]

In the books

Or sum

[keen summit]

we know hes connected to the iris

[rare trail]

where is it shown

[keen summit]

thats alll'

[worthy rose]

Yes

It can’t just be in the game for a reason

[rare trail]

how do we know zen is connected to the iris

[worthy rose]

And there’s more to explain

[keen summit]

all of his lines, talking about the iris, him telling sig that he heals thanks to the iris etc

[rare trail]

voice lines arent canon

[keen summit]

... except they are.

[merry mason]

but they are in character

[rare trail]

no they arent

[worthy rose]

They are

[rare trail]

voice lines arent canon

[worthy rose]

lol

[past copper]

Ok. Time to end this. If Zen is so strong, then why he look scared when Talon was about to kill him, only for Genji to save him? This is in the behind the scenes

[rare trail]

reaper has never said to mercy "you did this to me"

[keen summit]

they arent canon as in they havent actually met, however they are their actual reactions'

[keen summit]

if he saw her again he would

[rare trail]

not necessarily

[peak escarp]

Zenyatta is able to heal and float due to his connection to the Iris - he says so in an interaction with Sigma

[keen summit]

thats the point

[rare trail]

but interactions arent canon i thought

[keen summit]

tell me ONE that isnt at all canon

[merry mason]

maybe he was scared about what he was about to do to them

[worthy rose]

Isn’t the iris transcending life

[keen summit]

i just explained or dont you trust me?

[dawn topaz]

Sigma seeing fairies 🤓

[keen summit]

we dont know what the iris is

[worthy rose]

We do a little

[rare trail]

reaper saying you did this to me to mercy doesnt make sense because moira did it to him

[worthy rose]

It’s explained in a lot of videos

[past copper]

He’s not a fighter. He’s a monk. Name one time he’s shown the least bit of combat

[keen summit]

could be spiritual, could be a virus, could be a secret org could be etc

[rare trail]

theres a lot of voice lines that arent canon

[peak escarp]

the conversations aren't canon, but what they say is canon

[worthy rose]

And a lot that are

[keen summit]

might be cuz yknow he thought mercy should be able to bring him back

[peak escarp]

like Mercy talking about Lucio's father inventing the sonic tech

[peak escarp]

rez doesn't work like that

[keen summit]

if they werent, suddenly almost 70% of lore gets deleted

[keen summit]

exactly

but reaper saying "you did this" could be explained

[peak escarp]

Reaper never says that

[merry mason]

I like to think that the voiceline is what they canonically would say in that scenerio

[keen summit]

thats what i thought to btw

i was like but he never says it

its probs the one of "you tell me doc"

[merry mason]

but because the scenario never happened it isnt technically canon

[merry mason]

oh yeah the mandela effect voiceline

[peak escarp]

it's like playing with action figures

[noble pendant]

Thanks for the answer

[worthy rose]

oh ya

Read the comics

Lore zen op

[rare trail]

being able to heal and float isnt "op"

[worthy rose]

Are you stupid

[rare trail]

what about being able to heal and float is op

[worthy rose]

bro hasn’t read the comics

🤦‍♂️

[rare trail]

what else can he do

[worthy rose]

You tell me you say “heal and float op”

Sense you know so much tell me more

Lol

[rare trail]

you are the one with the burden of proof here

you said "zen is op"

im asking why

[merry mason]

zen has not shown up once in comics

[noble pendant]

True lol

[rare trail]

what comics does he appear in?

[worthy rose]

bro?

ow2 comics

[rare trail]

what comics does he appear in

[rare trail]

which comics

send a link

[worthy rose]

Cant you just search it?

Ok

[rare trail]

there arent any

[worthy rose]

Wait

[rare trail]

theres nothing to search

[peak escarp]

Zenyatta has a cameo in Reflections, but otherwise does not appear in any comcs

he appears in the short story Stone by Stone

[rare trail]

https://dotesports.com/news/in-game-overwatch-interactions-canon-13825

this is an article about the lead writer saying voice lines arent always canon

[dawn topaz]

uhm actually

Reinhardt totally listens to hasselhoff's song "night rocker"

[carmine meadow]

wait but isnt reinhardt like bridgettes dad

cuz thats why they share the same stuff right

the shield

[grim dawn]

what is canon

[carmine meadow]

and like melee weapon

tho rein cant heal

they should give rein inspire like bridges

brsisge

bridgets

so they r really the same

[merry mason]

torb is actually brigs dad

brig is reinhardt's apprentice

[peak escarp]

Reinhardt is her godfather - Torbjorn is her biological father

she got her height from her mom

[carmine meadow]

wait what

teinhardt is a girl?

wait no nvm

i read that wrong

so reinhardt and brig srent related

[merry mason]

not by blood, he's her godfather

[carmine meadow]

icic ty

[rare trail]

comics shorts origin stories

novels

[finite olive]

I just need to know

Is gency canon and are mercy and Roadhog married

[leaden reef]

Junkrat and roadhog are expecting their first child

[finite olive]

Let’s gooooo

[peak escarp]

Mercy and Roadhog are not married

Gency is canon

[finite olive]

LETS GO

[finite olive]

Thanks for clarifying

Because I see that they are a lot

Thankfully they’re not

[peak escarp]

...why?

they've never even met

oh is it because of a dumb joke Jeff Kaplan made years ago?

[red pier]

👍Olha se você n

[rare trail]

where is gency shown as canon?

[peak escarp]

their interactions and some lines from the short stories/comics indicate that they have a relationship

[rare trail]

oh thats cool

[peak escarp]

we don't know the nature of that relationship, but it seems romantic

[carmine meadow]

who is gency

is that genji

[rare trail]

its the name of the ship between genji and mercy

[carmine meadow]

icic

[dawn topaz]

in a christmas comic or smth genji writes a letter and on the same or next page mercy opens a letter while holding a oddly similar pen to the one genji uses

[peak escarp]

it's a feather

like the one he left when he ninja-vanished in Dragons

[acoustic marsh]

whats sigmas origin?

[limpid agate]

He's Dutch

[shadow marsh]

He's an Astrophysicist

[violet iron]

he love ants

[acoustic marsh]

Oh

alrighty then

[leaden reef]

All amazing answers

[thin cypress]

Is Doomfist technically the strongest character in ow lore wise
So I know Sigma with all his Hax would pulverise Doomfist, however due to the fact that Sigma can't really control any of his abilities, does that mean Doomfist is the strongest Lore wise?

[rare trail]

no

winston beat him

sym has hardlight

[rare trail]

orisa and winston have beaten him

[thin cypress]

Wasn't that between Winston and Doomfist a Tie, I remember that they after the fight picked up Doomfist and Winston didn't brought Doomfist in prison, and Orisa is built just to fight against Doomfist, but there I really have no clue

[rare trail]

winston won that fight orisa is specifically built to beat doom so shes specifically good against him but shes also just really powerful on her own

also sym is very op

and sigma might be able to control his abilities

its been a long time since he got them

i remember seeing a power chart somewhere in here

i found it

[ivory garnet]

Winston, Orisa, Sigma, Symm, and potentially Reaper are all stronger

Reaper and Doom can go either way

[tame berry]

Orisa is built to directly counter doomfist. They both have their strengths

[ivory garnet]

hence, Orisa is stronger, like I said

Physical strength: Doom and Winston
Durab: Orisa and Winston prolly
Hax: Sigma and Symm
IQ: Winston
etc, u can never really say who is stronger than who in OW verse as it comes down to what they’re best at, or its just obvious

[worthy rose]

goku would solo roadhog

[dawn topaz]

No he wouldn't

Roadhog is australian

[worthy rose]

Cassidy solos every person

[tacit galleon]

it just has to be high noon

[worthy rose]

Yes

[lusty vapor]

high noon for the damage reduction to tank cool downs

[ivory garnet]

high noon is just a confidence boost and being so calm that you shoot perfect or near perfect

[keen summit]

and him focussing

[ivory garnet]

yeah i meant that not “calm.” just forgot the word

[hot heart]

Super focused?

[rare trail]

cass is kinda crazy

hes not that powerful given all a and s tiers overwatch guys have actual superpowers or tech that basically gives them superpowers rather than shoot gun good

[teal pecan]

Winston lost to doom didn't he?

[rare trail]

no he won

[teal pecan]

Thought so

[rare trail]

in the doomfist cinematic?

he won

[teal pecan]

Also didn't doom beat all of the boys like Orissa when he came out of prison

Or are they different from orissa

[rare trail]

no i dont think hes ever beaten orisa

hes beaten the unit shes based on

[teal pecan]

Yeah though

[rare trail]

because efi upgraded her from an omnic that was kill by doom

[teal pecan]

Ahhh ok ok

[rare trail]

after he got out of jail hes just been planning the conflict that will lead humanity to "progress"

[teal pecan]

Yeah alright

[rare trail]

hes met with ramattra too

[teal pecan]

We see that in the cinematic

How are the omnics treated around the world

Apartnly their slaves in the uk

[rare trail]

will they ever bring back storm rising story mode mission or that blackwatch one with genji cass reaper and moira or kings row uprising?

[steady badger]

strongest hero in lore?

[rare trail]

sigma

winston

orisa

[steady badger]

doom?

[rare trail]

symmettra

[rare trail]

hes strong but not that strong

[steady badger]

i thought hes strongest smh

[rare trail]

winston and orisa have personally beaten him

[steady badger]

[rare trail]

sigma probably could beat him with all his gravity stuff

sym could maybe idk much about hardlight i just heard it makes her like green lantern

[steady badger]

wot

[rare trail]

hardlight is what reins shield is made of and is very very powerful

[hot heart]

What if

Sym projects the light directly through someone

[maiden granite]

does mercy have good intentions?

[rare trail]

yes

she just wants to help people

[void thorn]

shes german so no

[rare trail]

boring character imo

[void thorn]

i refuse to have orisa be made into stroodle by that demon medic

[shadow marsh]

She's swiss

[void thorn]

like the cheese?

[maiden granite]

mmm

best kind of cheese

[void thorn]

no best is pepper jack

[turbid sapphire]

colby

[void thorn]

close second

[worthy rose]

Winston is easy to kill

Griddy

[maiden granite]

winton

[ivory garnet]

most likely not

[ivory garnet]

yeah, she parallels Moira in a way due to those 2 having different views on stuff

[solemn creek]

What nation is Moira from?

[worthy rose]

Hell

[vagrant glen]

he beat the or15 units and the girl decided that they need a better protecter so she used the tech from the broken or15s to make orisa

[worthy rose]

She’s a red head

[solemn creek]

Ireland/Scotland tho? She doesn’t really sound that way

[native pasture]

Isn't she Welsh?

[limpid agate]

Moira is Irish

!!shitposting @worthy rose

[twilit nacelle]

@willow pond Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[worthy rose]

LOL

[maiden granite]

is doomfist actually evil

[ivory garnet]

yeah, he has a twisted and controversial goal

he’s a terrorist

[opaque scroll]

His goal is to "make humanity stronger through conflict"

[maiden granite]

chad

[rare trail]

i mean he doesnt think hes doing something bad

he has his reasons

but hes a terrible person whos committed terrorist attacks

btw would yall want tracers powers?

like you get the skip foward in time and stuff but you have to wear the thing

[maiden granite]

i want to hug tracer

and yes

i want to teleport

[rare trail]

what does tracer do if theres a power outage

like

how long does her thing last

[maiden granite]

arent dva and tracer friends

[rare trail]

theyre both in overwatch so maybe

i dont know if theyve interacted though

er im not sure if dva is in new overwatch

i think she is though

why is hammond so big

ig genetic stuff lunar messed with

[maiden granite]

why is winton so big

[rare trail]

i think gorillas are just that big

[maiden granite]

true i suppose

[rare trail]

junker queen is really really tall

i dont get how a human is like that big and can still like walk normally

[dense nebula]

Not to mention her being out in the wastelands for as long as she was

[maiden granite]

how tall is she

[ivory garnet]

D.VA has only recently joined overwatch, we have no info on that

[rare trail]

over 7 feet i think

[ivory garnet]

Junker is near Roadhog’s height

or slightly shorter

[maiden granite]

dom mom frghjl;'

[rare trail]

yeah roadhog is crazy tall too

[ivory garnet]

7’5

[rare trail]

junkrat is also tall too

hes 6'5???

i didnt know that

thats crazy tall

doom too

[opaque scroll]

6'5? Jeez

[rare trail]

yeah junkers are really tall

all the ones we've seen so far at least

[signal ore]

junk rat is 6’ when he is no slouching?

[past copper]

That’s radioactive mutations for you. They mess with your body some how

[rare trail]

6'5 when not slouching

[past copper]

Oh well. Better to look like a subtle mutation instead of a Cronenberg

[shadow marsh]

I think the Junkers are mutated

I think

[rare trail]

probably

[shadow marsh]

Cause' you know about the Omnium radiation, they're literally living in Chernobyl

Which might probably explain Roadhog being that huge

[rare trail]

yeah

[shadow marsh]

And also his lung disease

[rare trail]

junker queen is also really tall

[teal pecan]

Ok Australian are just naturally tall people ATM we AVG 5'11 in height an every year we go up with that AVG .001

What year is overwatch set in?

[rare trail]

2080 i thought

60 years in the future

it doesnt make sense for jq and roadhog to be 7' and 7'3 even being australians

i think its radiation

[teal pecan]

Ok so people would be around 6ft in the year which isn't implausible

Yeah but then the radiation would also make them bigger

But it would make sense the AVG person in Australia to be sixfoot an above

[rare trail]

yeah but theyre also made taller by radiation

[teal pecan]

Probably

[past copper]

So fun question. You think if the devs ever add Hanamura back to the game, Kanezaka will be added into the background?

[limpid agate]

No

[past copper]

Why not? The devs pull out all the stops in adding detail to maps now and Kanezaka is literally below Hanamura

It be odd to not have it shown from above if Hanamura ever returns in the map pool

[peak escarp]

if they make a new map for Hanamura, maybe

but the old one won't be changed

[limpid agate]

Black Forest isnt on Eichenwalde

The new map isnt on Nepal

And vice versa

[past copper]

And? What’s that got to do with Hanamura and Kanezaka? They’re literally right next to each other

[limpid agate]

So are Black Forest and Eichenwalde

So are Nepal and Shambali

[past copper]

A) We’ve seen the Black Forest up close. It’s surrounded by dense forest. You’re not gonna see the map from Eichenwalde so easily

B) It’s obvious the two locations for the Shambali Monasteries are in two locations of either different mountains or on one mountain. You more than likely wouldn’t see them next to each other

[limpid agate]

You can see Eichenwalde from Black Forest

Also I disagree that "its obvious"

To me "its obvious" that its the same mountain

[past copper]

Whatever. The point is that Kanezaka is right there beneath Hanamura. It can be seen right there

[limpid agate]

And Black Forest is next to Eichenwalde

And the Nepal maps, which are "obviously" close in proximity, cannot be seen from each other

[past copper]

It actually looks more like the Black Forest village is on the other side of the castle. Given how the map is designed, you probably wouldn’t see it regardless

[merry mason]

i thought all control maps were technically on the same map

[limpid agate]

They are

[past copper]

It’s not like players can see every side of the castle. Only the length of which the map is designed

[limpid agate]

Shambali is an escort map

[merry mason]

but those aren't necessarily the same place, so why bring it up

[limpid agate]

Nepal is a map in Nepal called Nepal

Shambali is a map in Nepal called Shambali

In the context of the conversation

Nepal and Shambali are the Nepal maps

[merry mason]

Nepal's a whole country, the two temples don't need to be next to each other

[limpid agate]

Just because the map is called Nepal doesnt mean it spans the country

Its like if hanamura was called "Japan"

Its still set in one place next to Kanezaka

[merry mason]

not what I meant, in fact I meant the opposite

nepal the country is big enough that you could fit nepal the map and shambali without either being seen from the other

[limpid agate]

And in the story, from what I can tell, they're close in proximity

[merry mason]

How can you tell?

[past copper]

Nepal does have a number of temples around it and if the Shambali are the same, then they can have multiple temples around Nepal too

[merry mason]

meanwhile can't you see hanamura from kanezaka but not the other way around?

[limpid agate]

1 sec

[past copper]

Yes, but only bc Hanamura was designed years before Kanezaka was ever conceived

[merry mason]

yes but isn't that what you were taling about in the first place

fixing that

[past copper]

The devs just didn’t wanna have to change a map just bc they added a new one next to it

Tho, probably bc OW2 was on the horizon and Hanamura was gonna get scrapped anyway so…

So doubt they had any need at the time to change Hanamura if this was the case

But keep in mind, they’ve certainly changed map designs before for OW2

Aside from time of day, there have been other things added to maps. Such as Nepal and Rialto getting more cover spots and Blizzard World getting heavily detailed rain

[mint kelp]

asdf

[limpid agate]

Point 1 - They updated the base of operations of Zenyatta to be that of the new map. His base of operations was shown to be the previous map. This is also literally the only update we have had to base of operations ever.
Point 2 - The devs have talked about maps being set in familiar locations around existing maps. I do not recall if this was used as an example however. I think this was how Aaron accidentally leaked this map?
Point 3 - The patch notes basically confirmed it's on the way to Sanctum. Capitalized. Because its a proper name of the place.
Point 4 - The images. Its literally the same place.

@merry mason @past copper

Have the OW2 evening update.

[past copper]

To be fair, the Shambali Monastery might actually just be the base of the mountain given how this looks

[limpid agate]

And they didnt even bother updating Nepal to show the construction site.

They're not gonna put Kanezaka on Hanamura, even if it didnt get snapped

Heres what it looks like looking down

[past copper]

If the construction is around the base of the mountain, you think you can it from the top of the other map?

I mean, can you see the first Nepal map from the Monastery map?

[limpid agate]

No

Despite being in the same place

You cant see either map from either

Just like the Black Forest/Eichenwalde mystery

[past copper]

It’s not like you circle the Eichenwalde map to see the village on the other side of the castle tho

[limpid agate]

You can though

[past copper]

Nepal can get a pass since the first map is situated very high up

[limpid agate]

And see that its not there

[past copper]

True, but I don’t think it’s fair to compare old mechanics to new ones. To add detail of two separate maps to each other would more than require the devs to remove a map from the map pool for a time to do it

Something they had ample time to do for Rialto and Blizzard World since they were removed for 2 months

I’m sure if and when Hollywood and Gibraltar return, they’ll be changed in some way

Tho, don’t see why Gibraltar, but whatever

[limpid agate]

They didnt either

Rialto is still filled with old assets.

Including low poly Talon weapons in the spawnroom

[past copper]

That’s bc Talon probably still uses it or something. It’s not like we’ve got a lot of maps affiliated with Talon

And I was referring to the crates at the beginning of the match. Those weren’t there before

Also, don’t know if this is real, but seems players discovered a PvE area of Rialto. Don’t quote me on that

[worthy rose]

Huh

[peak escarp]

there's new areas on a few maps - King's Row, Rialto, Havana

and there's a new doorway on Eichenwalde that doesn't lead anywhere yet

it seems like they're in the process of expanding the maps for PvE

[ivory garnet]

we’ve seen they’ll be expanding the maps for PvE

when its a payload mission

[past copper]

I don’t think the one on Havana is a payload expansion

[ivory garnet]

didnt say it was, in the showing of PvE, they tell and shows us that payloads will have 2 different paths. Our regular PvP route, then the new PvE routes

[past copper]

Those expansions look fun. Certainly going to be a welcomed change when they arrive

Rialto’s expansion looks great. Probably only for a hero mission tho

[ivory garnet]

Kings row expansion looks nice

[rare trail]

is rein really 7'4?

everyone is really tall in ow geez

[peak escarp]

Hero Missions = you can choose any hero, objectives are randomized, basically the QP of PvE
Story Missions = 4+ heroes to choose from for a 4-player mission, the story campaign

[rare trail]

i wish the other 3 story missions would come back

[maiden granite]

how tall is d.va

[rare trail]

shes 5'5

short

[peak escarp]

5'5" isn't short

that's average

[rare trail]

its pretty short

average is 5'9

[past copper]

No. 5’1” is short. 5’5” is pretty average

[rare trail]

5'5 is pretty short

[peak escarp]

she's tall compared to me

I'm only 4'11"

[rare trail]

wait korean women are shorter on average

so shes actually above average

[ivory garnet]

she’s short compared to some of the ppl in overwatch, there 🙂

[rare trail]

5'3 is average for korean women

doom is really tall

7'1

[past copper]

People here comparing height, but forgetting things like genetics having a place in it

[maiden granite]

doom cheated

[rare trail]

comparing height doesnt mean you're forgetting genetics

[maiden granite]

he doesnt count

[peak escarp]

it's hard to argue for genetics when it comes to fictional characters

[rare trail]

yeah

[peak escarp]

they're as tall/short as the writers made them

[rare trail]

genji def cheating though

he doesnt even have real legs

zen cheats too

[peak escarp]

Sojourn has different height legs in her origin story

[worthy rose]

where does doom rank in terms of strength in the lore

[ivory garnet]

zen walks

[ivory garnet]

5th or 6th

[worthy rose]

behind ik sigma but who else

[rare trail]

winston

orisa

sym prolly

[ivory garnet]

winston, orisa, symm, and MAYBE Reaper

[worthy rose]

orisa and sym? 💀

[peak escarp]

why is everyone obsessed with Doomfist's power rating?

[worthy rose]

cuz he's an awe inspiring character whos also broken in the game

[rare trail]

bc a lot of people think hes the most powerful

[peak escarp]

Orisa has beaten Doomfist in a fight once already

with Lucio's help

[ivory garnet]

Orisa vs Doom is 1 to 0, Orisa beat him before

[rare trail]

so has winston right?

[worthy rose]

well that ain't all that fair

[peak escarp]

yes

[worthy rose]

ik winston beat him

[rare trail]

lucio aint hat powerful in lore

[ivory garnet]

Symm is overpowered

[worthy rose]

how

[ivory garnet]

hardlight

[worthy rose]

??

[ivory garnet]

she is just greenlantern without the power of will

[peak escarp]

she can make basically anything with hardlight

[rare trail]

orisa beat him in hero of numbani and sym has hardlight

[worthy rose]

weird

well 5th or 6th aint bad

[rare trail]

yeah

[ivory garnet]

Reaper vs Doom goes either way

i’d say like 60/40

Doom 60, Reaper 40

[rare trail]

reaper is pretty bad at his job

[ivory garnet]

however its incredibly possible Reaper can solidify being in the top 5 if the story devs expand on his potential

[ivory garnet]

plot demands

but yeah, it seems that way

he is probably the best at completing missions in Talon besides Widow

[maiden granite]

does widow have an actual personality aside from killing machine

[ivory garnet]

yeah

somewhat still has emotions

[peak escarp]

read her bio

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/heroes/widowmaker/

[ivory garnet]

find her bio conflicting

she visited Gerald’s grave right?

and placed flowers there

[peak escarp]

yes

she still remembers loving him

and has her own free will

[ivory garnet]

that would stand for having atleast a minor bit emotion though right?

[peak escarp]

she does feel some emotion yes

but it has mostly been dulled

[ivory garnet]

okay, so im guessing her bio saying “no emotion” could be a calling to the animation and how she doesnt feel anything for the people she kills?

[peak escarp]

yes

[ivory garnet]

ah okay, thanks

[maiden granite]

btw do we know much about kiriko

[ivory garnet]

not entirely

rather dry background besides being family friends with Genji and Hanzk

Hanzo

also controversial since the new japanese hero seemingly knows the brothers

[peak escarp]

how is that controversial?

her mother trained the brothers

it makes sense that she would know them

[ivory garnet]

just seemed weird to me that the new japanese hero would have a connection towards 2 already known heroes, it has some good storytelling, but it seems off to me

[peak escarp]

a new Japanese hero that wasn't connected to them would be weirder

I would want to know why we got another Japanese hero instead of one from one of the hundreds of other countries without representation

[ivory garnet]

yeah i get that, just weird tho since theres other areas of Japan

we dont have a portuguese hero right? unless u somewhat count lucio since he is brazilian?

[peak escarp]

I wouldn't count Lucio

[ivory garnet]

okay, didnt know since both places speak the same language or narrowly the same

[peak escarp]

that's like counting Baptiste as French because he speaks French

[worthy rose]

Have we got a rep from Scotland yet?

[shadow marsh]

It's possible because before Overwatch disbanded there were like thousands of OW agents. Since the recall there's atleast 13(15 if Bastion and Lucio joins) for now

[dense nebula]

Not yet

Closest we got is Ireland with Moira

And maybe England as well cause of Tracer

[digital forum]

I hope we get more Caribbean reps 🙏, we only have Cuba and bap

[peak escarp]

that's more than some regions have

Southeast Asia, Pacific Islands, South America, Southern Africa and Eastern Europe all have less than that

[digital forum]

Let me be more specific, I was purposefully vague so I can sneak in jamaica or dominican republic 😭😭

[limpid agate]

Polynesia will at least be getting Mauga eventually

[merry mason]

Europe has plenty of rep but it feels so strange that italy gets pretty much all the content except a hero

[vocal marsh]

Also Dorado and Castillo

[vocal marsh]

Italy’s Rialto was because it was the map for retribution

Colosseo maybe has to do with the PvE

[vocal marsh]

South America has Lucio/Paraiso and Eastern Europe has Zarya/Volskaya Industries

[peak escarp]

okay, less or equal to

[merry mason]

Yeah, it has so many maps and big story importance but no hero

[vocal marsh]

Meanwhile the US having:
Soldier
Reaper
Cassidy
Ashe
Blizzard World
Midtown
Route 66

[rare trail]

murca

[vocal marsh]

We have more moon related things

[rare trail]

hammond winston

[vocal marsh]

HLC

[rare trail]

horizon lunar colony

thats not in the game anymore though

[vocal marsh]

It’s in Assault maps in the Arcade

It’s rotation

[rare trail]

sigma kinda

he did his thing on the moon right?

[vocal marsh]

I guess

[peak escarp]

his experiment was on a space station

not on the lunar base

[nimble sandal]

And king's row

[vocal marsh]

He visited though

[nimble sandal]

He's seen all

[peak escarp]

HLC is still in the game, it's just not in the core rotation

[vocal marsh]

You can also play it in arcade still

Assault maps are in rotation

[proven ocean]

Man I wish Soldiers lore was just him being a veteran from a time before Omnics and being racist towards Omnics

[rare trail]

you want soldier to be racist?

[proven ocean]

Towards Omnics

[ivory garnet]

he’s been serving for YEARS, he has no reason to be racist towards them either. I think Soldier’s lore is quite interesting compared to tons of the other heroes

[proven ocean]

He does tho

[ivory garnet]

he doesnt

[rare trail]

he kinda does

[ivory garnet]

give me a reason he should be racist

[rare trail]

hes witnessed the terrible things omnics have done

[proven ocean]

American

[ivory garnet]

okay? so should people be racist to germans/aryans?

[proven ocean]

No

[ivory garnet]

reasoning sucks then

[proven ocean]

No

[ivory garnet]

we have racist heroes already

[proven ocean]

Wait we do?

[gray kayak]

This almost feels like a shitpost troll answer. This channel is for serious discussion. Be serious please.

[rare trail]

a tone of people are racist to omnics because of null sector and the fact a lot of them are war robots soldier has seen that firsthand

he has reasons

not good ones but you cant really rationalize racism

[ivory garnet]

again, that means people can be and should be racist the germans/aryans in the real world. There is never a good reason to be “racist” as you should never be

[rare trail]

no

thats not the same thing

theres only one generation of omnics and many of them are a part of null sector

[peak escarp]

but many of them aren't

and had nothing to do with the crisis

[rare trail]

like soldier has a reason to hate omnics given hes seen what anubis has done with omnics

i dont think he does but he has a reason to

and he knows about null sector i think

[ivory garnet]

only ones who have been apart of the Crisis are the Or’s. Regular omnics we see in cinematics like Hero, Alive, etc havent even been apart of it

[nimble sandal]

Junker queen is already that

[ivory garnet]

all junkers do

[proven ocean]

Can Omnics feel?

[rare trail]

junkers hate omnics bc they destroyed their home right?

[rare trail]

yes

well wdym feel?

[limpid agate]

Regular omnics have been part of it.

Bob was also part of it

[ivory garnet]

yeah, omnium place go boom boom

[limpid agate]

The novel tells us as much rather explicitly

[proven ocean]

I just thought that they’ve just been accurately representing what feeling’s like

[peak escarp]

regular omnics all turned on humans at the same time

[rare trail]

i mean omnics are pretty much just people

[ivory garnet]

no they have feelings and emotions

[rare trail]

btw was aurora before or after anubis?

[limpid agate]

What are you saying no to

[limpid agate]

After I believe

[ivory garnet]

.

[peak escarp]

there's not much visible difference between feeling emotions and acting like they feel emotions

[rare trail]

i mean if you saw omnics be very violent toward innocent people thats a reason to be racist toward them i mean its not a good reason but there arent good reasons to be racistr

how did cass lose his arm?

[ivory garnet]

not known i believe

due to talon i’d assume since he is always being hunted or wtv, or during a gig

[rare trail]

in ana origin its shown he has a real arm or a verry realistic fake one

[ivory garnet]

thats during blackwatch

you can look at Reaper and see its patch on his shoulder

we know he lost his arm from post-downfall to Reunion

[peak escarp]

Cassidy lost his arm after leaving Overwatch

[rare trail]

maximilean is so cool

i really want him as the next support

[ivory garnet]

idrk how that would work

[peak escarp]

Maximilien is too much of a coward

[rare trail]

yeah

[ivory garnet]

feel like only talon support we could now get is a brand new character

[rare trail]

yeah

sanjay with hardlight might work

[limpid agate]

Or Sanjay

[rare trail]

idk if he canuse hardlight though

[limpid agate]

Analyst Nguyen is also a blank slate for possibilities

Well, not totally blank

But his primary weapon is one that's fine for a support, being a simple handgun

Which ironically, we dont have a hero that uses that in this game yet

Closest is Cassidy

[ivory garnet]

i mean, if you dont count a revolver being a handgun

then yeah

[limpid agate]

Pretty much every fps marks them as distinct weapons

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so like a glock or something?

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Handguns are low damage flexible semi automatic weapons

Yeah

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i wonder if we'll ever get one of the other guys shown in the final shot of kiriko trailer

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Kanezaka or whatever?

[peak escarp]

they are the Yokai gang

there's some pretty cool designs in there

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oh them, thought they were talking about the kanezaka

yeah their designs are pretty cool

quite cool

guy in the very far back seems to have dual swords with triggers, kind of like Attack on Titan blades, would be cool so see what his swords are like

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it could be cool if the other mechs were dva skins

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you mean if dva had skins where they were the other MEKA? or have another MEKA as a hero?

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just skins of dva except its not dva its one of the other mekas

like how in super smash bros skins like for bowser junior really change him

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ah okay, could be cool, but all the MEKA have such distinct shapes and skins it would be really weird to see on DVA

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yeah it could mess with silhouettes

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and hitboxes cuz some MEKA are smaller than other

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oh wait i just checked i thought they were way closer they are very different

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yeah very

a possible one could be the bottom left

as its the most similar

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yeah that could be cool

or maybe like recolors of dva that had the color schemes of the other mekas

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i think she has atleast one

nvm, i thought she did

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have we ever seen orisa fight anyone except for doom?

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nope

not that I believe

nor remember

funny that Cass and Sombra were in the same bar on Christmas, also that Amelie visits her husband on that day

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So if Omnics had their own country, what would be their national flag?

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Null Sector logo

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No, that would be like the N*** Germany flag.

Though I do admit, Null Sector's logo looks super cool.

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flags arent always rectangles, theirs can just be this simple square

although I did put a logo of a terrorist organization of their flag

but Omnics live with humanity, so

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It’s hard to tell what logo they would choose.

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it can be anything, doubt they’ll make an omnic only country though

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You know the Profile picture in the game just called “Omnic”?

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yeah

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I love this logo man.

It follows the basic rule of logo-building, giving it a hidden meaning. The cross is the Null part, and it completes the S for Sector.

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yeah 🙂

Blizzard does good with their overwatch logos