#lore-discussion

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iron plume
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With (presumably) 4 people in a PvE setting

worthy rose
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I dont understand the lore

iron plume
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If you'd like to this is a good place to start

worthy rose
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Was it rlly important to make overwatch 2 within the lore

iron plume
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If you can stop yourself from continually driving this off topic

worthy rose
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What changed

iron plume
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"Overwatch 2" is not in the lore

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anyway
if you'd like to learn about it this is a good starter

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!!loreguide

twilit nacelleBOT
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This is a guide for people who don't know where to begin with the lore of Overwatch. The first thing is probably to go watch the shorts. They're popular, easy to consume, and pack a lot of story and character.
Shorts Playlist: https://bit.ly/2UQyTeL

There are many comics, short stories, and blog posts as well. The most important ones are:
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
Stone By Stone: https://bit.ly/36EsPul

Also important for Overwatch 2 is Cassidy's comic series, New Blood:
#1: https://bit.ly/3wJqcnL
#2: https://bit.ly/3ejXkd0
#3: https://bit.ly/3fbBwB3
#4: https://bit.ly/3B9zLOE
#5: https://bit.ly/3iaM0lB

There is also an important chain of events following Ana and Soldier 76 (and Mercy at the end):
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE

The rest of the stories are mostly optional. Special mention goes out to the Junkers, who have an entertaining string of stories:
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
A Moment in Crime: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC

keen summit
iron plume
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Let's move on from that conversation

keen summit
worthy rose
iron plume
ivory garnet
rare trail
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no gameplay in overwatch 2 is canon yet right?

lilac tartan
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is soldier 76 still hiding

rare trail
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I think hes going after talon

lilac tartan
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oh yeah

rare trail
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i do think everyone thinks hes dead though

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i dont think he rejoined overwatch when winston made the recall

lilac tartan
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i think he was presumed dead before the recall

gleaming notch
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Why is talon so much stronger than overwatch

lilac tartan
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  1. jeff said so
  2. yeah probably
analog niche
lilac tartan
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reaper and moira kinda backstabbed them, soldier and ana, and the whole overwatch banned thing

dusty dew
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Doom fist is cracked and almost nothing in lore rn can stop him

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Hot take

analog niche
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I wonder how Ramattra would do in a Doomfist fight. They are both very intelligent and strategic, both can be very powerful, and I honestly think there is reason to believe that there might be a falling out between Null Sector and Talon which could facilitate a fight

analog niche
ivory garnet
rare trail
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yeah we've seen the winston orisa matchup so we know doom loses there

analog niche
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Symmetra does have the potential to fight Doomfist actually

rare trail
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yeah hardlight is bs she could prob beat him

analog niche
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She is essentially a green lantern with autism and a bob

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Now that the skin is out

dawn fractal
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Why don't they just restart the omniums

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And just build more omnics

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No need for ramantra to be edgy

limpid agate
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He is doing that

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THe problem is that those are not "real" omnics.

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They're omnics, but they're just mindless drones rather than sentient people like him and Zenyatta.

dawn fractal
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Huh

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How did they get sentience then

analog niche
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Good question

dusk nimbus
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Idk

dawn fractal
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Because it would likely be possible to replicate that

dusk nimbus
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Ok but based off of Ramattra’s voice lines. He isn’t just some crazy maniac that wants to destroy all of humanity.

quick kettle
dawn fractal
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I think

quick kettle
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achieving peace, etc

dusk nimbus
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Yes, but they have to completely separate paths

quick kettle
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yeah ^^

dawn fractal
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There is a voicline between ramattra and baptiste

rare trail
dawn fractal
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The ship from subnautica?

rare trail
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no the omnic

dawn fractal
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I'm guessing aurora is dead?

rare trail
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she went to the iris and gave all other omnics that were built at that time sentience

rare trail
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but not on earth

dawn fractal
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Then why not go to the iris again

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Get a sacrifice

rare trail
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its not something you can decide to do

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its like achieving nirvana

shadow marsh
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She's the fist sentient omnic

rare trail
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you cant just do it

rare trail
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she achieved it giving all the omnics that were built at that time sentience

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but you cant really do that again

dusk nimbus
shadow marsh
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Hence Ramattra revolting

quick kettle
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✍️

peak escarp
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Ramattra sees Anubis as a failure

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and intends to succeed where Anubis failed

rare trail
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anubis is the first omnic uprising guys right?

peak escarp
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yes

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Anubis is the god AI that controlled the omnics and caused the Omnic Crisis

dusk nimbus
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He wishes she would have destroyed it, because that is what fueled all the hate for his people

peak escarp
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we don't know why

dusk nimbus
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Because skynet. Lol no one really knows why

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Ram isn’t seeking to exterminate humanity. He just wants to be Treated equally and not as second class citizens that’s the whole reason the uprising started

shadow marsh
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On the bright side Ram doesn't seem so hateful of Numbani

dusk nimbus
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Exactly

shadow marsh
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Although 50% of the game interactions aren't canon he sure is regretful when he kills Orisa

rare trail
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he probably wouldnt hate numbani

dusk nimbus
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You can literally hear his voice tremble with grief

rare trail
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they dont seem to ahte omnics

dusk nimbus
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He would be more than happy to co-exist with humans.

dusk nimbus
rare trail
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yeah numbani has robot security i'd assume they like omnics

dusk nimbus
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Orisa is pretty much a celebrity there lol

limpid agate
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Does he even have Numbani interactions?

agile steppe
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roadhog hot af

worldly wyvern
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why did Blizzard fumble sigma so hard

rare trail
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he got written in bc they had the movesetr

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he wasnt planned

worldly wyvern
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Its like they introduce one of their greatest and most mysterious characters lore wise but dont even do anything else about him

worldly wyvern
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i want to know what he means by "he knows the iris"

rare trail
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it was gonna be for mauga but then it didnt fit

worldly wyvern
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i hope sigma gets more lore if they plan on making more comics or,hopefully a show

rare trail
worldly wyvern
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one of the greatest characters

worldly wyvern
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Sigma views reality on a higher level than everyone else due to the black hole ripping him apart into different personalities

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So he probably saw an image of what the iris actually looks like

limpid agate
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I dont think that's the case.

worldly wyvern
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the backwards messages is what REALLY intrigued me about his character

limpid agate
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Sigma is not right in the head and believes in things like fairies because of it.

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His interaction about the Iris shouldnt really be taken literally.

worldly wyvern
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shrug

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overwatch should definetly get a show,the lore is so goddamn incredible

analog niche
potent temple
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Hey, guys
am i the only who noticed that in the spawn ship there are things missing? such as oxygen things, those medkits (or whatever they are, some sort of boxes), etc?

analog niche
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What do you mean?

potent temple
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lemme show you in a bit

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i don't know if i can send images, so

ivory garnet
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they’re still there

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people just knock them over

potent temple
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yeah, i always knock them over, but there are a lot of missing things

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for example the part with the emergency oxygen
there used to be more gallons, even inside the crystal, yet now there is only one gallon

dawn fractal
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Do omnics have omnussys and omnockandballs?!?!

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/j

rare trail
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maybe

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we see omnics being in relationships so

dusk nimbus
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You think they short circuit when they um nvm-

analog niche
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When they what, @dusk nimbus ?

dusk nimbus
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Uhhhh

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Don’t worry ab it

rare trail
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why do the junkers hate robots?

dusk nimbus
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Big ass factory in the bush exploded also the same factory that made a lot during the crisis

rare trail
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so junkertown was affected byu the omnic crisis a lot?

dusk nimbus
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I’m not 100% sure on this but I think the reason it is so apocalyptic is because of the explosion

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Pretty sure tho

grand wedge
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Also, a lot of people (like Roadhog) were expropriated from their homes in order to build the omnium in the first place. Most of them joined a milita, Australian Liberation Front, and when the crisis ended, the Australian government wanted to give the omnium to the Omnics, and not to the people. So, they exploded it and built JT over it.

west dirge
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In lore who would be considered the weakest?

analog niche
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I would most likely guess Baby Dva, but that is a technicality

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Other than that, honestly I believe Lucio is the weakest

earnest gazelle
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Mei is the weakest lore wise I believe

dark lichen
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100% agree with Mei. The thing with D.va (even without Tokki) is that she does have some military training. Mei is, as she says in one of her voicelines, "I'm just a Scientist!". She was part of the Eco-Point branch of Overwatch which was just scientists with no combat training, at least to our knowledge.

peak escarp
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right

gloomy citrus
peak escarp
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the game isn't canon

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Mei players are the problem, not Mei herself

zinc lynx
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How many omnics in existence, and are they still in production? Or how does it work?

gloomy citrus
inner plover
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Hi...
somebody know if skins classified as "Archive" can appear in the "Just for You" shop❓ For example Talon skins

ivory garnet
tranquil juniper
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is junkrat queer?

analog niche
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For bombs, yes

peak escarp
rare trail
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i mean not necessarily

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we dont know shes not queer

peak escarp
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Junkrat

rare trail
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oh i misread i thought they meant jq

analog niche
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It doesn’t really matter either doesn’t it, what with the people on the internet and their… imagination and artistic talent

peak escarp
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it doesn't

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but we can't conclusively say that they are without evidence

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they're not straight either

edgy falcon
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Does symmetra know fully vishkar true intentions or does she know what the company is doing?

peak escarp
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she believes Vishkar is truly doing good for the world

edgy falcon
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Thank you

peak escarp
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she knows Sanjay does shady things, but he has convinced her that it's for a good purpose

dawn topaz
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This is canonically what reaper's cells look like and nobody will tell me different

grand wedge
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Agreed

icy pier
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yes

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canon

rare trail
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she was in a plane crash and kept being really unstable and going in and out of time till winston i think made her the time thing so she can accelerate or decelerate time for herself so like she can speed herself up to walk 10 feet and instead blink there

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without the thing on her chest she just keep blipping in and out of existence

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doomfist video and tracer video show this well

summer tulip
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Is it a mistake by drawers or i dont understand something?

rare trail
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like i mean when doom messed with it she couldnt control her blipping

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like she needs that device but maybe she had a smaller one or something

grand wedge
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(beeing in the present with her loved ones, probably - she has it off when she is with Emily too)

peak escarp
merry mason
peak escarp
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so she can take it off to shower, sleep, etc.

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and I think when it's on its charging station the range is boosted

analog niche
lavish gulch
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Why is Souljourn so boring? (In terms of Character and Backstory)

peak escarp
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what makes her boring?

past copper
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I think people just find a character boring because they don’t understand them

peak escarp
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that's why I wonder what makes her boring

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I find her interesting

past copper
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She’s def one of the many interesting heroes. The only “boring” one I see is Sigma

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But only because of the little lore we have on him

shadow marsh
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People usually find heroic characters boring

compact sparrow
grim pawn
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hmm, seeing as how the ramattra short story shows how much his hatred grew for mondatta, i wonder if he had any involvement in his assassination

rare trail
rare trail
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just like different morals

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he doesnt hate zenyatta

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and i dont think he was with tlaon at the time

grim pawn
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“He holds himself above us. Like Anubis, Mondatta is sending our people to their deaths. He must pay for this."

rare trail
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hmmm

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yeah that does kinda seem like that

grim pawn
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i would think the failure of the king's row uprising was actually the catalyst that led ramattra to believe he needed talon's resources

grim pawn
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YESS lol thank you

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also ngl a little disappointed there don't seem to be any interactions between ramattra and tracer, considering tracer-london calling there could be a lot to work with there

peak escarp
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I want an interaction between Reaper and Ramattra

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since Reyes was the leader of Overwatch during the crisis

grim pawn
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it does seem silly that ramm doesn't have a single interaction with a hero from uprising (besides the rare, unrelated torb/brig interaction)

analog niche
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There are plenty of characters who could initiate a conversation about what happened in King’s Row, I would think Tracer most of all due to the added connection of Mondatta

dense nebula
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Tracer boutta be hit with reality if she was given voicelines with Ram

jade gazelle
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I have a question, how does reinhards body work.... is he just biologically 9 foot tall, and weighs like 500 pounds, or is it mechanical like genjis.
Or is it a like an exoskeleton which makes him bigger.

peak escarp
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it's power armor

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he's still pretty tall though - over 6 feet

jade gazelle
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Looking at the reinhard reflections image.
He is almost as large as the woman next to him while sitting down in a chair, so yeah. Very tall.

gritty plaza
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Can Anyone tell me reapers lore?

rare trail
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reaper was in the super soldier program with soldier

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he was in overwatch

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then he was in blackwatch

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then he was in talon where moira was experimenting on him

gritty plaza
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Were him and soldier friends?

rare trail
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then he was dying so moira saved him by making him all smoky

rare trail
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not anymore though soldier hates reaper

gritty plaza
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Why?

rare trail
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reaper is in talon

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talon bad

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soldier is hunting talon

gritty plaza
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Also i heard whenever i play reaper and my mate plays mercy they have sum weird discussion Whats that About?

jade gazelle
# gritty plaza Why?

IIRC, there was black watch, and there was overwatch
Overwatch is nice and tidy, black watch does things the public is not supposed to be aware of, I think reaper was a leader, or at the very least very high ranking, he was a friend of soldier.
However he got involved in a lot of corruption and stuff, I think it was discovered and a conflict happened between them.

rare trail
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mercy also doesnt like reaper

gritty plaza
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Something like mercy telling him to patch him up or sumthing?

jade gazelle
jade gazelle
gritty plaza
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But reaper dosent want her help?

jade gazelle
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malcolm? I forgot his name

rare trail
gritty plaza
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Ohhh

jade gazelle
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Mercy and reaper actually know eachother way before talon existed, during black watch period, pre fall of overwatch.

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And I am pretty sure she is at the very least aware of his identity.

rare trail
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yeah mercy knows reaper is reyes

jade gazelle
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I doubt she would help him though, considering he is a terrorist... sorta.

rare trail
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not sorta he is just a terrorist

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like trying to steal the doomfist gauntlet

jade gazelle
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Reaper is like a cartoon villain, he fails most of the time miserably

rare trail
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trying to kill winston

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i dont think mercy likes reaper

peak escarp
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most of the heroes don't like Reaper

jade gazelle
peak escarp
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I like Reaper

jade gazelle
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does he have any lines with baptiste or lucio?

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I know most of the heroes like baptiste.... even his enemies.
and in the case of lucio, they don't usually respond negatively to his banter.

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He does have some with baptiste... they are negative, mostly taunting him. ("your heart is beating fast traitor" "Just a reminder you won't see me coming")

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The only line I can find online regarding lucio is after he kills reaper, something like "does this make you a deadbeat"

leaden reef
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Reaper and widow seem fine with each other

stoic kindle
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How about sigma and sombra

ivory garnet
rare trail
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i think reaper needs therapy

ivory garnet
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he only has anger issues and prolly a small bit of depression

analog niche
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“Only”

peak escarp
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if you were in constant pain you'd have anger issues and depression too

dry marlin
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Some youtuber said doom fist was trash and when i started playing the game eairler i started getting destroyed by dooms

merry mason
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sleep nade em

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lol sleep nade what am i saying

ivory garnet
rare trail
shadow marsh
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Lore enthusiast, I have a question

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In Doomfist's 3d model, Obviously we know he has possession with the Gauntlet but I noticed his right chest is cybernetic (no shit) but also in fact symmetrical to his left chest. This makes me wonder

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Does he have to remove his entire arm to connect that giant gauntlet?

peak escarp
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he wears the gauntlet over his prosthetic arm

shadow marsh
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I see

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Thought it would be cool if he actually has to switch from prosthetic to gauntlet

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Oh wait

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I forgot the definition of gauntlet

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Yeah makes sense he wears

jade gazelle
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She is cool, also friends with baptiste

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None of the 3 personalities of sigma can deal with politics

peak escarp
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Sigma doesn't have 3 personalities

jade gazelle
peak escarp
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no

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he doesn't have multiple or split personalities

jade gazelle
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Oh, that is much less interesting, anyways he still isn't mentally stable enough to avoid falling into talons grasp unlike someone like baptiste or sombra

peak escarp
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Sigma thinks Talon is helping him, and they kinda are... he just doesn't know that they're using his research for themselves

dry marlin
jade gazelle
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I mean he is a big guy, but that kind of feat shouldn't be possible.

shadow marsh
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He's 50% cybernetic

worthy rose
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Guys i think hanzo and genji are brothers

peak escarp
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how observant of you

polar valve
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Lmao

polar valve
jade gazelle
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The Strongest man on earth would barely budge prison bars, nevermind bend them

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Doom fist is built dif though

peak escarp
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punching through concrete should be easy

jade gazelle
peak escarp
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not the gauntlet

jade gazelle
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Unless you mean he has a robot arm under his robot arm

peak escarp
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his right arm is cybernetic

jade gazelle
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Hmm, maybe it can work if it is like that, though I didn't see it in the cutscene

peak escarp
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the one he was punching with

jade gazelle
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Why did they allow him to keep a hand capable of punching through concrete in prison

peak escarp
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because it's impossible to remove

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or because Talon has moles in Helix

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or both

jade gazelle
peak escarp
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that's inhumane

jade gazelle
jade gazelle
peak escarp
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cybernetics still have nerves in them

jade gazelle
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Also you cannot keep a weapon in prison

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But I guess they allow weaponized cyber modifications in prison though in his case

peak escarp
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they do if the jailers are on your side

jade gazelle
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Tbh doom fists modifications specifically shouldn't be allowed, he is a combat ready, political leader.
And he is not known for his good behaviour, but it doesn't matter if they don't care

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Though heroes in lore seem to be something else, doom fist was able to escape with only his modifications, despite many armed guards being there.
Probably cuz they didn't fight

peak escarp
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It began in the early hours of the morning, when an unidentified aircraft approached the facility. Security initially reported that the craft had no passengers on board, based on radar scans. The craft passed through the range of the installation's defense systems without incident, leading some to believe that Talon has moles within Helix.

jade gazelle
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Oof, so it truly was because of corruption

opaque scroll
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you dont just break someone's human rights because they broke other peoples'

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But yeah it's probably more just that Helix had Talon moles

jade gazelle
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That is how it works irl, unless overwatch prison system is absolute cheese

grand wedge
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It’s not an Overwatch prison, and it was an Helix facility

jade gazelle
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Leaving it on is a liability

grand wedge
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Doomfist has a cybernetic arm under his gauntlet

jade gazelle
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He is literally able to punch a wall down

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You can glue it back on once he finishes his prison sentence

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Also you can 100% remove it without sawing it off

keen summit
jade gazelle
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I doubt his cybernetics are embedded with his flesh
I don't mean attached, but aka inside his cybernetic arm, there is flesh

grand wedge
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How do you cut the body of someone heavily augmented like Sojourn? You can’t, even if you have to put them in prison. Maybe dampen their efficiency and remove some implants

jade gazelle
keen summit
jade gazelle
grand wedge
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It was said some of his implants were removed before going in prison

jade gazelle
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Or remove her super advanced legs, and replace it with slow ones

grand wedge
jade gazelle
grand wedge
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Ribs, heart, spine, skull arms legs

keen summit
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i do wonder how it would go with sym if she wouldve been imprisoned

jade gazelle
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Also you only need to do it with legs or arms

keen summit
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cuz sym you really cant risk

grand wedge
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Nope you can’t unless it’s a serious invasion of the body/human rights

jade gazelle
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If she can't run away that is enough

jade gazelle
grand wedge
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Anyway, Doom got help either way from the outside and the inside

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And stayed in prison at least 6 years

jade gazelle
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I believe the system if cybernetics like that exist would probably be even more serious and authoritarian when it comes to enhanced humans

grand wedge
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So he was behaving or couldn’t just get out sooner than that

jade gazelle
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Having people able to just break out and kill everyone at any point inside a small confined space is not a great idea

grand wedge
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(Also, some people like Vialli probably liked him behind those walls)

grand wedge
jade gazelle
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I mean... They came and got him out themselves

keen summit
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the simplest way to say it is that someone within helix was a mole and "checked" his cybernetics and confirmed them as non-dangerous

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so he was allowed to keep it

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cuz if it isnt a danger what does it matter

jade gazelle
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Doom fist is l3git so highly armoured, you can see it in his cinematic his chest muscles literally bounce bullets

jade gazelle
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There are moles

keen summit
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what i meant is

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one couldve "checked" his arm and said it isnt strong enough for anything special

jade gazelle
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Yeah, you could assume that it was his weapon which made him strong rather than the fact he is a walking tank

keen summit
steady ravine
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What Sojourn lore 🤔

limpid agate
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She has a novel

shadow marsh
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And it's pretty good

heady osprey
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what is the relationship between genji and kiriko?

limpid agate
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They were friends

inland yoke
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They trained together as well

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I think her mom helped train the shimadas

merry mason
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Even if his right arm has superhuman strength (which is a good guess but there's nothing that actually suggests this), the force coming from his arm will damage the rest of his body. He probably is "built different" and considering characters like Rein, Zarya, and Mauga it seems that the maximum strength of a human is just way higher in overwatch world

keen summit
merry mason
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Reinhardt would be born by now

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It's probably just always been like that, just like how japanese clans just always hat spirit animals

keen summit
merry mason
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they eat their vegtables

rare trail
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like bc evolution hasnt changed peoples bodies for a very long time

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and in a civilized society being strong =/= you having more children

limpid agate
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~60 years

rare trail
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yeah nothing would change

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theres no selection pressure

lament walrus
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pve when

rare trail
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2023 i thought

limpid agate
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Yeah, 2023

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I personally predict season 5.

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But realistically its season 4 at the absolute earliest

ancient kraken
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@limpid agate i still have hope for season 3

tall sleet
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i cant wait any longer for pve fr

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i need the story missions im begging u blizzard...

opaque scroll
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Considering the scope of how long the human race has existed

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Or, rather, how short of a time it has existed

rare trail
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how long do you think a very long time is?

opaque scroll
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For evolution, multiple dozen thousand years

peak escarp
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evolution hasn't changed humans noticeably in 300,000 years

opaque scroll
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Real shit?

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Damn I'm outta the loop then my bad

peak escarp
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that's when the first Homo sapiens appear in the fossil record

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there have been small adaptations, like skin colour or height, but aside from that, humans have been basically the same for 300,000 years

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anyway, this is getting off topic

jade trail
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i farted

gleaming notch
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top 5 strongest list?

peak escarp
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Sigma, Symmetra, Winston, Orisa, Reaper/Doomfist

gleaming notch
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imo its sigma doom winston orisa and zen

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why sigma so high

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and doom so low

peak escarp
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because he can control gravity

gleaming notch
#

idk why i said sigma

peak escarp
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Doomfist has been beaten canonically by Winston and Orisa

gleaming notch
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i meant symmetra

peak escarp
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Symmetra can create almost anything with hard light

gleaming notch
peak escarp
#

what

gleaming notch
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or was i told lies

peak escarp
#

Winston beat Doomfist, leading to his capture

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as seen in Doomfist's origin story

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Winston did not break every bone in his body

gleaming notch
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i still think doomfist stronger, beating someone in a 1v1 dosent mean your more powerful

limpid agate
#

Sure

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But beating someone whose main strength is their cybernetic fist in a fist fight does

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Winston didnt beat him with tech or gear or anything

peak escarp
limpid agate
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He just beat the shit out of him

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Physically

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He beat up Doomfist in a fist fight

limpid agate
#

And Doomfist had the Doomfist gauntlet

gleaming notch
#

yk what i need to recap

limpid agate
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Sigma, Winston, Symmetra, and Orisa are all contenders for the #1 strongest hero

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Doomfist isnt

gleaming notch
#

Orisa?

limpid agate
#

Orisa is very, very durable

gleaming notch
#

Orisa isnt that strong she was just made to counter doom

limpid agate
#

And she has very powerful weapons

gleaming notch
#

not enough feats?

limpid agate
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Zenyatta is near the bottom

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I'd say above only Mei

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Maybe Mercy

gleaming notch
#

how

limpid agate
#

He's borderline civillian

gleaming notch
#

genji stated he cannot touch him and he mastered the iris

limpid agate
#

I can guarantee you that Genji never said "he mastered the iris"

gleaming notch
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no

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it was meant to be another point

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he mastered the iris and genji said he cannot touch him

limpid agate
#

Its still incorrect

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Thats like saying a priest hero mastered heaven

gleaming notch
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what happends to reaper during the end

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does he turn back to normal or die

limpid agate
#

What

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Neither?

gleaming notch
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oh

limpid agate
#

I dont understand the question

gleaming notch
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what happends in the future

limpid agate
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How the hell would we know

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Its the future

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They havent written it yet

gleaming notch
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oh i thought yall had comics

limpid agate
#

We do

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They're set in the present

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The most recent event chronologically is Cassidy's Old Soldiers

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Err

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New Blood*

gleaming notch
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you think there will be more stuff in the pve missions

limpid agate
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Yes

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Thats the point of the PvE missions...

gleaming notch
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i feel like doomfist will be much stronger

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and i cant wait

limpid agate
#

He wont be

gleaming notch
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to hear abt

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ramatra

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can ana + jack beat reaper?

limpid agate
#

They already did

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Well

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They made him retreat

gleaming notch
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why would he retreat

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hes invincible

limpid agate
#

He isnt invincible

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Read Code of Violence

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!!loreStories

twilit nacelleBOT
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gleaming notch
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ok

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what paghe

worthy rose
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@limpid agate Why u read lore man

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its boring

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why u know everything about lore

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TRUE

peak escarp
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it's not boring

worthy rose
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LORE IS SO LAME

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waste of time bro

peak escarp
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then why are you here?

opaque tundra
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i like funny stories that writers make up to build and set up their world

rare trail
#

i like the lore

gleaming notch
#

ye reading lore broing asf i aint gonna read a 20 page novel just to know reaper not invicible

rare trail
#

i dont think its boring

gleaming notch
#

i like just being told it

peak escarp
#

then watch videos

gleaming notch
#

he should be

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makes cells decay

peak escarp
#

because he can still be killed

gleaming notch
#

and then normal

worthy rose
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lol reaper is noob

peak escarp
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and injured

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his healing isn't instantaneous

rare trail
#

reaper could be killed by someone like widow right?

worthy rose
#

reaper can die when i gobastion men what you mean

peak escarp
#

probably

rare trail
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like he probably couldnt go all smoky fast enough to not get hit by the bullet

gleaming notch
#

i dont like soilder 76

peak escarp
rare trail
gleaming notch
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nah if i had reapers abilities ill be number 1 in the overwatch lore

rare trail
#

old overwatch leader gone rogue

gleaming notch
#

ye but hes a bitch

gleaming notch
#

phase punch boom shotgun to the head

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no plot armour

worthy rose
#

UR SUPER NOOB BRO

gleaming notch
#

id actually body them

peak escarp
#

Winston always has plot armor

worthy rose
#

REAPER IS 100 TIMES BETTER THAN U

rare trail
gleaming notch
rare trail
#

tickle gun makes it so reaper cant go smoky from what we've seen

rare trail
gleaming notch
#

then id batter him still

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hes a monkey bro

rare trail
gleaming notch
#

like

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monkey jumped up and leaped to doom

worthy rose
gleaming notch
#

and doom just stood still

rare trail
gleaming notch
#

like if i was doom

worthy rose
worthy rose
rare trail
#

watch the doomfist cinematic thats not what happened

gleaming notch
#

i would of backed off and uppercutted that monkeys ass

rare trail
#

doom didnt just stand there

gleaming notch
worthy rose
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doom have 1.5X strength because of race value

worthy rose
#

and so does winston

worthy rose
rare trail
gleaming notch
#

lemme see

gleaming notch
#

and yes i do

worthy rose
gleaming notch
#

mf i just seen

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he stands and punches while winston full on leaps up

worthy rose
#

I BEAT U IN 1V1 EZ

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SO BAD AT FIGHTING

gleaming notch
worthy rose
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LOL SO KNOOB

gleaming notch
#

bro how old are yhou

rare trail
#

guys can we please talk about lore

gleaming notch
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i said so noob when i was like fucking 8 playing roblox or som

gleaming notch
#

whats mgr

rare trail
gleaming notch
#

elden ring won game of year

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ez

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sigma overated though

rare trail
#

reaper is 58?

peak escarp
#

yes

rare trail
#

wait how long ago did overwatch start?

gleaming notch
#

30 years ago

rare trail
#

oh wow

gleaming notch
#

omnics declared war

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or som

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i forgot

rare trail
#

anubis declared war i thought

peak escarp
#

Overwatch started during the omnic crisis, which is 30 years before present

rare trail
#

anubis attacked a bunch of guys and overwatch stopped them

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anubis attacked using omnics though

gleaming notch
#

nah but sigma is so overated imo he shouldnt be in top 5 strongest

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hes a dumbass

rare trail
gleaming notch
#

nobody in talon respects him

peak escarp
#

Anubis took control of the omniums around the world and tried to exterminate humanity

peak escarp
#

we don't know why

rare trail
#

i think hes pretty smart

gleaming notch
#

not anymore bro 💀

rare trail
#

i dont think the black hole made him dumb

gleaming notch
#

he cant focus on anything

peak escarp
#

he's still a genius

gleaming notch
#

hes just

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braindead

rare trail
#

no?

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sigma isnt braindead

gleaming notch
#

nah cause he ignores everyone and focuses on tiny shit

rare trail
#

that doesnt make him dumb

gleaming notch
#

He

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cannot focus

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on anything

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so in a fight he will be destroyed

rare trail
#

why dont you think he can focus

peak escarp
#

that doesn't mean he' stupid

gleaming notch
#

soilder was like

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snap out of it old man

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and he was like

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ant

rare trail
#

voice lines arent always canon

gleaming notch
#

bro his minds been corrupted

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hes being controlled my talon

rare trail
#

not really

gleaming notch
#

hes broken bro

rare trail
#

the black hole in his brain didnt make him dumb

gleaming notch
#

Alright bro

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hes not dumb but you know damn well what i mean

rare trail
#

i dont

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like if someone is trying to hurt him he can just like rip them apart

gleaming notch
#

im not even gonna bother bro

rare trail
#

turn off their gravity

gleaming notch
#

and someone could just put a bullet in his head before he does that

rare trail
#

he can manipulate the bullet

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like he can rip the bullet apart

gleaming notch
#

Bro?

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Do you hear yourself right now

rare trail
#

he can make it go in the other direction

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he can control gravity

gleaming notch
#

Sigma a man who cannot concentrate nearly as well as a normal human

rare trail
#

he can stop a bullet

gleaming notch
#

catch a bullet

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mid air

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and rip it apart

rare trail
quick frost
#

its not that deep lmaoooo you two

gleaming notch
quick frost
#

no need

gleaming notch
#

no genuinely

rare trail
quick frost
#

you're*

clear olive
gleaming notch
# rare trail not an answer

You're an idiot do you know how hard it is impossible to catch a bullet mid air, most tech nowerdays (overwatch is in the future so the tech is much more faster) travels at 820mph, how can he catch that

rare trail
#

he can stop a piece of metal

gleaming notch
#

Shit oh ok

clear olive
gleaming notch
#

Bro

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if i get a gun and shoot him in suprise

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no way

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is he stopping that

clear olive
#

He literally would

gleaming notch
#

So what part of him

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Get the fuck out of here then'

#

Having gravity = thinking and reacting before a bullet of 820mph+ hits him

clear olive
ivory garnet
#

too lazy to look it up, but Reinhardt is german too right

pure sonnet
#

Yes

ivory garnet
#

its in my memory somewhere but i cant lay my finger on it

#

ty

merry mason
#

He has shield health so the bullet will just bounce off.

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and lacking attention doesn't mean being completely unable to foucus

leaden shoal
shadow marsh
analog niche
#

If gameplay were canon, beats by Dre can cure cancer and a tranquilizer dart can knock robots out cold

shadow marsh
#

I said gameplay abilities not gameplay mechanics

analog niche
#

No u

worthy rose
#

genji

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122

gleaming notch
#

he can dodge a person shooting him

raven mesa
keen summit
faint geode
#

Like he cant even sense moiras sarcasm

merry mason
#

probably just does not care

dense nebula
opaque scroll
#

German is an official language in Switzerland so it makes perfect sense that she speaks German

final atlas
#

Theory: reaper is a woman under the mask

ivory garnet
#

and, he isnt a dumbass

merry mason
limpid agate
#

!!shitposting @final atlas@merry mason

twilit nacelleBOT
#

@final atlas@merry mason Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

limpid agate
#

Reaper isn't a woman

frosty gale
merry mason
#

It's strange having so little in terms of lore but now it's all starting to materialize

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and not that much was even made recently

rotund ermine
#

i dont see anything materializing

peak escarp
#

there's more lore than people realize

rotund ermine
#

i mean magic and spirits might be a thing now so

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when they actually ground themselves to something and stick to it, and maybe release more than 2 page short comics

rare trail
peak escarp
#

we've been getting far more than that for a while

rotund ermine
peak escarp
#

we've had 3 novels, 2 5-part comics

rotund ermine
peak escarp
#

yes

rare trail
rotund ermine
#

the entirety of ow1 hanzo dragons and such were not confirmed as spirits

peak escarp
#

the dragons have always been spirits

rotund ermine
#

they even said there is no magic

rotund ermine
peak escarp
#

the community just made up the idea that they're hard light

rotund ermine
#

now ur 180'ing?

peak escarp
#

might be

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turns out I was wrong

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that can happen

rotund ermine
#

we all were

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but so were they

peak escarp
#

it could just be that the former writer didn't consider spirits to be magic

rotund ermine
#

it'd be nice to get an actual small movie, or actual story animations besides a new character introduction

rare trail
#

if they were hardlight tattoos why would genji be able to control hanzos

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why would hanzo say "only a shimdada can control dragons"

peak escarp
#

the PvE will have intro and outro cutscenes for every mission

rotund ermine
worthy rose
#

Honestly how did Mccree ever get into Blackwatch he's just a dude with an outdated gun

rotund ermine
peak escarp
rare trail
#

hes beaten all of the deadlock gang at once

rotund ermine
#

"my hard light connection better than urs im real shimada"

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like they can go any route

worthy rose
#

Bro could have at least had a better gun then

rotund ermine
#

to justify some dumb shit like that

rare trail
rotund ermine
#

my point

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went over ur head

peak escarp
#

any explanation we came up with was always a stretch

merry mason
#

but isn't thats syms reason for being in viskars program

worthy rose
#

Like give him something like Snipes revolver from MHA

rotund ermine
#

sym is a bootleg green lantern yea

rare trail
#

based on the events of dragons it only makes sense for it to be dragon spirits

rotund ermine
#

yes, now. as they are now confirmed spirits as kiriko's fox is a spirit

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before it was not, what so ever

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for 6 years

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so

peak escarp
#

that's the thing about stories

#

sometimes you don't get all the information at the start

rotund ermine
#

do not give me the "mystery" copout. 6 years my guy

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warhammer 40k has done it for 30, and it does not make it good all the time

merry mason
#

We now know that the spirits are dragons but that was not confirmed until recently (was there ever an official confirmation from devs that there is or is it just obvious now)

peak escarp
#

well, for 6 years Hanzo has called them "spirit dragons"

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so

merry mason
#

he can call it what he likes

rotund ermine
#

we can go back and fourth for eternity

rare trail
#

like it wouldnt make sense for them to be the only ones with these dragons and that only shimadas can control them unless theyre dragon spirits

rotund ermine
#

how would it not

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they could make sense of it however they want

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even if it was technology lol

merry mason
rotund ermine
#

deadass

rare trail
#

why would they be the only ones who have it

rotund ermine
#

ur asking questions into the void

#

u want me to give u an answer on their behalf?

rare trail
#

the question doesnt have an answer unless its spirits

merry mason
#

"the dna coded hardlight generators hidden in our bodies at birth allow us to control the dragons"

rare trail
#

why would that be specific to them

#

why would they be able to control each others dragons

rotund ermine
#

"our hardlight technology is unique to the shimada clan only, only our clan has this technology, the dragons design and infrastructure is our making"

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like literally

#

anything

merry mason
#

they invented it that's why

rare trail
#

other places have hardlight

rotund ermine
#

ok cool

#

do u have it?

#

do u have nasa bleeding edge tech?

rare trail
#

if it was hardlight sym could make one

rotund ermine
#

oh u dont

merry mason
#

but not shimada dna locking tech

rotund ermine
#

why is that

#

?

#

u dont have nasa technology, why not?

merry mason
#

although i personally always liked the spirit explanation

worthy rose
#

Because they're poor

rare trail
#

sym has hardlight she would have dragons if thats what created it

rotund ermine
#

u dont have bleeding edge tech only developed by a specific person, why not?

worthy rose
#

Symm isn't poor lol

rotund ermine
#

dumb hill to die on

rare trail
rotund ermine
#

why didnt china have the light bulb but tesla did

rare trail
#

so if it was that technology sym would have it

rotund ermine
#

why

merry mason
#

her dragons would be controllable

rotund ermine
peak escarp
#

I dont see why this is a problem

worthy rose
#

I mean yeah it's not that deep

merry mason
#

why whick is a problem

rotund ermine
#

it's just a dumb hill to defend

worthy rose
#

They're spirits end of story tbh

rotund ermine
#

now yea

#

now give me 30 minute movie of them talking

rare trail
#

so its hardlight thats only controllable by a specific family and the other people who have hardlight dont have it and shimadas only give it to themselves bc????

worthy rose
#

It was pretty fair to assume they were spirits before

rotund ermine
#

if i invent something myself why would i give it to other people if i want to keep it for myself

rare trail
rotund ermine
#

like is that concept impossible

#

to fathom

rare trail
#

you make your clan way more powerful if everybody in it has magic dragons

merry mason
rotund ermine
#

ok so JUST UR CLAN

#

???

#

no one else BUT ONLY UR CLAN

#

"but why doesnt sym have it"

#

lmfao

peak escarp
#

it is a dumb thing to defend

#

which is why I don't

rotund ermine
#

but its funny

rare trail
#

if somehow shimadas were the only ones who were able to make the dragon technology why would they only give it to two guys one of which was a rebel and had to be killed because he was dangerous to the clan]

rotund ermine
#

the mental processing

peak escarp
#

I treat it like any other fact that I got wrong - I correct myself and move on

rotund ermine
#

this plot trope has been done

#

endless times too

merry mason
#

right?

#

i remember there being a fan comic where sym makes a dragon and then hanzo says omg shes my long lost sister

#

it was based on the same hard light assumtion

worthy rose
#

The dragons aren't even interesting

#

I want another character connected to the Iris

rotund ermine
#

they would be if they added more to them

#

i wanna see hanzo dragon get mauled by genji and talk his shit

#

then they fight again for OW3

merry mason
#

tangentially related why does kiriko make mention of using old and new techniques but what new techniques? she has shrine fox powers (old) and ninja techniques (old)

peak escarp
#

she's got a cool bike

merry mason
#

can't wait until i see her on it

worthy rose
#

Well martial arts has a ridiculous amount of creative potential, so some of her ninja techniques might not be old, but instead created by herself or apart of a new wave of techniques

limpid agate
#

That's not a joke

#

That's about it

lilac tartan
#

why do they shoot rockets at the bastions instead of just using the crusaders in the cinematic

limpid agate
#

They have miniguns

#

They will just melt through their armor

#

Its not like in game where the crusaders have 500+ health

#

Its an army of Bastions with a shit load of bullets

merry mason
#

shooting rockets seems like the smarter idea tbh i don't know why they never show people using artilery on the omnics or something

sharp trench
worthy rose
#

Honestly imagine if they had Winston during the Omnic war

rare trail
#

why is winston so powerful

#

like why can he go primal rage

peak escarp
#

genetic modification

worthy rose
#

Idk my question is why is his primal rage strong enough to beat Doomfist

peak escarp
#

because the plot needs it to be

limpid agate
#

Because he's a mary sue

#

There is no explanation

worthy rose
#

Doom is a cybernetically enhanced physically peak human with the combat IQ, skill and experience of an extremely talented world champion martial artist, who wields an infamously powerful high tech weapon

#

Winston just goes "OOOOOOOO GRRRAAAAHHHRRRRRAAAAHHHHHHHUUUUH!!!"

#

Though I guess Winston is a REALLY fucking big gorilla

limpid agate
#

Winston is a genetically enhanced gorilla

#

But

#

That was his second mission ever

worthy rose
#

Like his size would be an anomaly amongst gorillas

#

He is to gorillas what a 6'7 man is to us

#

It's weird but I kinda want another animal

#

But as a support

limpid agate
#

No

#

No more animals

worthy rose
#

Nah actually I can't imagine it right

limpid agate
#

Hammond was set up to be a hero when Horizon released

#

That was fine

worthy rose
#

More omnics would be nice though

#

I know we just got one but we only have like 5

#

Technically 6 if you want to count Genji

peak escarp
#

Genji is not an omnic

worthy rose
#

Yeah well I don't count him but I know some people say otherwise

peak escarp
#

well they're wrong

#

a cyborg is not an omnic

worthy rose
#

In a weird way Genji is set up to be hypothetically one of the strongest characters in the lore

#

If he can ascend the Iris like Zen has

peak escarp
#

Zen hasn't ascended either

worthy rose
#

He's got powers, is what I mean

dawn topaz
#

Who the hell is the Idina Moira mentions to Orisa

peak escarp
#

Idina is the name of the model that Orisa was made from

#

like how Bastion is the name of the E54 omnic

worthy rose
#

Yeah it's cute that Bastion really is just basically like a dog they call dog instead of giving a name until it simply feels as though it's his name

cerulean cliff
#

When Lucio reloads his gun, what is in the capsules?

karmic locust
#

Battery's right?

dawn topaz
#

music

karmic locust
#

Concentrated music

cerulean cliff
#

How does that work?

dawn topaz
#

You put the sounds in capsules

cerulean cliff
#

Dosnt make much sense but ok

rare trail
#

who would win
very intelligent strategist with many cybernetic implants and a state of the art gauntlet that can bring down skyscrapers
or
angry monkey

peak escarp
#

who would win
hyper intelligent genetically modified gorilla who is a brilliant scientist
or
angry terrorist

rare trail
#

are winstons glasses the original dr winstons glasses from the lunar colony?

peak escarp
#

no

rare trail
#

so what happened to winston?
he was on lunar colony then ???? and hes on earth being leader of overawatch

peak escarp
#

he built an escape pod and left

#

read his bio

rare trail
#

why did he leave

#

he seemed to like dr winston

merry mason
#

always thought they were

peak escarp
#

because the rest of the apes killed all the scientists

rare trail
#

and sigmas stuff happened near that time at lunar colony right?

peak escarp
#

not at the lunar colony

merry mason
#

i think it was at an unrelated space station

peak escarp
#

on the space station

#

and we don't know when

#

Sigma did visit the lunar colony

rare trail
#

i thought sigma went to horizon

#

ig i was wrong

#

the "like father like son" implies he did

peak escarp
#

yes

#

he has been there

merry mason
#

he did it was just at a different time

peak escarp
#

but that's not where he did his experiment

analog niche
#

Sigma balls

#

Despite doing his experiment years ago in the space station, do you think the issues it has now are black hole related and it could technically still be as a result of the accident?

peak escarp
#

Sigma's issues are 100% related to the black hole experiment

analog niche
#

Sorry, not his issues

#

I mean the issues that the space station is having

peak escarp
#

probably

analog niche
#

Black holes do be wibbly wobbly with the timey wimey

rare trail
#

true...

peak escarp
#

Sigma's experiment was at least 4 years ago

rare trail
#

how old is ana?

peak escarp
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the maps are... not exactly fixed to a specific time

peak escarp
rare trail
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and were ana soldier and winston in overwatch at the same time?

analog niche
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Yes

peak escarp
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at the end of Overwatch, yes

rare trail
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how long did overwatch last?

peak escarp
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but Winston only joined about 10-12 years ago

peak escarp
sharp trench
# peak escarp

wait are lucheng interstellar and sigma's accident connected?

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reaper's voiceline about lucheng interstellar not being clean makes sense now

peak escarp
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Lucheng Interstellar has a space station

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Sigma's accident was on a space station

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logically, they're the same space station

limpid agate
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On top of that

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Lucheng is responsible for the Horizon Lunar Colony

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And Sigma is familiar with the scientists of the colony

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Who themselves are also tied to Lucheng

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Hes personally been to the colony as well

worthy rose
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i wanna cream all over D.vas fcae

worn bear
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Wha-

maiden granite
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maybe a stupid question but can tracer take winstons machine off at all?

peak escarp
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yes

maiden granite
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thx

grim pawn
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is Ana's new botanist skin the first and only one that features her cybernetic eye? super confusing choice

delicate knot
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Is there lore as to why reaper throws his guns instead of reloading? And where does he get the new ones

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And I just read tracers guns reload by traveling back in time? That’s insane

summer tulip
limpid agate
elder wasp
# peak escarp

Stupid question maybe but why is her TV so far away from the couch, is this common in the UK?

limpid agate
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The artist isnt an interior decorator

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The layout is different again in her comic series

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With the tv in a more normal spot

mighty arch
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lore

final atlas
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amazing theory: genji is a woman

dawn topaz
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What is Moira's favourite anime?

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The monkey is genetically modified on the lunar moon base

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he sees the scientist named winston as a father figure or smth, the other animals start a revolution and kill the scientists

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Monkey chooses to call himself winston in a reference to his friend

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and then builds an escape pod and flies to earth

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where he joins overwatch

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Anyways I think moira's favourite anime is NGE since it's all about psychology of humans and science shit

delicate knot
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Found it
“Overwatch Cinematic Trailer” on youtube from the channel “EB Games Australia”

At 3:10 in

limpid agate
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Its also in pins

dawn topaz
limpid agate
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Yeah