#lore-discussion
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I dont understand the lore
If you'd like to this is a good place to start
Was it rlly important to make overwatch 2 within the lore
If you can stop yourself from continually driving this off topic
What changed
What?
"Overwatch 2" is not in the lore
anyway
if you'd like to learn about it this is a good starter
!!loreguide
This is a guide for people who don't know where to begin with the lore of Overwatch. The first thing is probably to go watch the shorts. They're popular, easy to consume, and pack a lot of story and character.
Shorts Playlist: https://bit.ly/2UQyTeL
There are many comics, short stories, and blog posts as well. The most important ones are:
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
Stone By Stone: https://bit.ly/36EsPul
Also important for Overwatch 2 is Cassidy's comic series, New Blood:
#1: https://bit.ly/3wJqcnL
#2: https://bit.ly/3ejXkd0
#3: https://bit.ly/3fbBwB3
#4: https://bit.ly/3B9zLOE
#5: https://bit.ly/3iaM0lB
There is also an important chain of events following Ana and Soldier 76 (and Mercy at the end):
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE
The rest of the stories are mostly optional. Special mention goes out to the Junkers, who have an entertaining string of stories:
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
A Moment in Crime: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC
Then why are you acting like u do with all of the event idea stuff
Let's move on from that conversation
Bios got worse, pvp nothing pve shows the current events of the new omnic crisis
Just speaking from a guy with experience within gaming
Funny you mention that because the bios just got updated
With an actual story rather than a summary paragraph posted twice
Really!
FUCK YES
Overwatch 2 isnt lore, its just “Overwatch”
no gameplay in overwatch 2 is canon yet right?
is soldier 76 still hiding
I think hes going after talon
oh yeah
i do think everyone thinks hes dead though
i dont think he rejoined overwatch when winston made the recall
i think he was presumed dead before the recall
Why is talon so much stronger than overwatch
- jeff said so
- yeah probably
He kinda scoffed at the recall
reaper and moira kinda backstabbed them, soldier and ana, and the whole overwatch banned thing
I wonder how Ramattra would do in a Doomfist fight. They are both very intelligent and strategic, both can be very powerful, and I honestly think there is reason to believe that there might be a falling out between Null Sector and Talon which could facilitate a fight
Not very hot, no
Winston, Orisa, Symm, Sigma, and maybe Reaper can
yeah we've seen the winston orisa matchup so we know doom loses there
Symmetra does have the potential to fight Doomfist actually
yeah hardlight is bs she could prob beat him
Why don't they just restart the omniums
And just build more omnics
No need for ramantra to be edgy
He is doing that
THe problem is that those are not "real" omnics.
They're omnics, but they're just mindless drones rather than sentient people like him and Zenyatta.
Good question
Idk
Because it would likely be possible to replicate that
Ok but based off of Ramattra’s voice lines. He isn’t just some crazy maniac that wants to destroy all of humanity.
arent him and zenyatta after the same goal?
I think
achieving peace, etc
Yes, but they have to completely separate paths
yeah ^^
There is a voicline between ramattra and baptiste
aurora
The ship from subnautica?
no the omnic
I'm guessing aurora is dead?
she went to the iris and gave all other omnics that were built at that time sentience
She's the fist sentient omnic
you cant just do it
th eiris isnt a place its a state of being
she achieved it giving all the omnics that were built at that time sentience
but you cant really do that again
There is even a voice line between him and pharah where he stated that she should have destroyed the Anubis AI and she replied, by saying “I wasn’t expecting you to say that” very surprised
Hence Ramattra revolting
✍️
anubis is the first omnic uprising guys right?
He wishes she would have destroyed it, because that is what fueled all the hate for his people
why did it do that
we don't know why
Because skynet. Lol no one really knows why
Ram isn’t seeking to exterminate humanity. He just wants to be Treated equally and not as second class citizens that’s the whole reason the uprising started
On the bright side Ram doesn't seem so hateful of Numbani
Exactly
Although 50% of the game interactions aren't canon he sure is regretful when he kills Orisa
he probably wouldnt hate numbani
You can literally hear his voice tremble with grief
they dont seem to ahte omnics
He would be more than happy to co-exist with humans.
Hence why he likes numbani
yeah numbani has robot security i'd assume they like omnics
Orisa is pretty much a celebrity there lol
Does he even have Numbani interactions?
roadhog hot af
why did Blizzard fumble sigma so hard
Its like they introduce one of their greatest and most mysterious characters lore wise but dont even do anything else about him
so painful man
i want to know what he means by "he knows the iris"
it was gonna be for mauga but then it didnt fit
i hope sigma gets more lore if they plan on making more comics or,hopefully a show
my headcanon is he ascended to the iris and met aurora and was like ooh aah thats the iris
one of the greatest characters
He probably did honestly
Sigma views reality on a higher level than everyone else due to the black hole ripping him apart into different personalities
So he probably saw an image of what the iris actually looks like
I dont think that's the case.
the backwards messages is what REALLY intrigued me about his character
Sigma is not right in the head and believes in things like fairies because of it.
His interaction about the Iris shouldnt really be taken literally.
real
Indeed, hot trash
Hey, guys
am i the only who noticed that in the spawn ship there are things missing? such as oxygen things, those medkits (or whatever they are, some sort of boxes), etc?
What do you mean?
yeah, i always knock them over, but there are a lot of missing things
for example the part with the emergency oxygen
there used to be more gallons, even inside the crystal, yet now there is only one gallon
You think they short circuit when they um nvm-
When they what, @dusk nimbus ?
why do the junkers hate robots?
Big ass factory in the bush exploded also the same factory that made a lot during the crisis
so junkertown was affected byu the omnic crisis a lot?
I’m not 100% sure on this but I think the reason it is so apocalyptic is because of the explosion
Pretty sure tho
Junkertown is build on the ruins of the Omnium (factory that built omnics) that exploded.
Also, a lot of people (like Roadhog) were expropriated from their homes in order to build the omnium in the first place. Most of them joined a milita, Australian Liberation Front, and when the crisis ended, the Australian government wanted to give the omnium to the Omnics, and not to the people. So, they exploded it and built JT over it.
In lore who would be considered the weakest?
I would most likely guess Baby Dva, but that is a technicality
Other than that, honestly I believe Lucio is the weakest
Mei is the weakest lore wise I believe
Mei
100% agree with Mei. The thing with D.va (even without Tokki) is that she does have some military training. Mei is, as she says in one of her voicelines, "I'm just a Scientist!". She was part of the Eco-Point branch of Overwatch which was just scientists with no combat training, at least to our knowledge.
right
yet in game shes the literal devil
How many omnics in existence, and are they still in production? Or how does it work?
😢
Hi...
somebody know if skins classified as "Archive" can appear in the "Just for You" shop❓ For example Talon skins
omnics are still somewhat in production, but arent sentient
is junkrat queer?
For bombs, yes
no
Junkrat
oh i misread i thought they meant jq
It doesn’t really matter either doesn’t it, what with the people on the internet and their… imagination and artistic talent
it doesn't
but we can't conclusively say that they are without evidence
they're not straight either
Does symmetra know fully vishkar true intentions or does she know what the company is doing?
she believes Vishkar is truly doing good for the world
Thank you
she knows Sanjay does shady things, but he has convinced her that it's for a good purpose
This is canonically what reaper's cells look like and nobody will tell me different
Agreed
she was in a plane crash and kept being really unstable and going in and out of time till winston i think made her the time thing so she can accelerate or decelerate time for herself so like she can speed herself up to walk 10 feet and instead blink there
without the thing on her chest she just keep blipping in and out of existence
doomfist video and tracer video show this well
In reflections comic tracer puts off the thing and doesnt shift in and out
Is it a mistake by drawers or i dont understand something?
like i mean when doom messed with it she couldnt control her blipping
like she needs that device but maybe she had a smaller one or something
She was anchored thanks to something else
(beeing in the present with her loved ones, probably - she has it off when she is with Emily too)
the chronal accelerator works in a small radius
if i remember the writers said that the device just has to be near her not on her
so she can take it off to shower, sleep, etc.
and I think when it's on its charging station the range is boosted
It looks as though a fidget spinner and a bacterium had a child and it listened to death metal
probably what happened
Why is Souljourn so boring? (In terms of Character and Backstory)
what makes her boring?
I think people just find a character boring because they don’t understand them
She’s def one of the many interesting heroes. The only “boring” one I see is Sigma
But only because of the little lore we have on him
People usually find heroic characters boring
Soldier
hmm, seeing as how the ramattra short story shows how much his hatred grew for mondatta, i wonder if he had any involvement in his assassination
soldier isnt fully heroic though
i dont think he hated mondatta
just like different morals
he doesnt hate zenyatta
and i dont think he was with tlaon at the time
i dont know, the short story definitely poses more of an extreme vitriol towards him than simple disagreement
“He holds himself above us. Like Anubis, Mondatta is sending our people to their deaths. He must pay for this."
storm rising which theoretically marks the beginning of talon/null sector collaboration takes place 6 years before overwatch, while alive takes place well after that
i would think the failure of the king's row uprising was actually the catalyst that led ramattra to believe he needed talon's resources
you mean ramattra right
YESS lol thank you
also ngl a little disappointed there don't seem to be any interactions between ramattra and tracer, considering tracer-london calling there could be a lot to work with there
I want an interaction between Reaper and Ramattra
since Reyes was the leader of Overwatch during the crisis
it does seem silly that ramm doesn't have a single interaction with a hero from uprising (besides the rare, unrelated torb/brig interaction)
There are plenty of characters who could initiate a conversation about what happened in King’s Row, I would think Tracer most of all due to the added connection of Mondatta
Tracer boutta be hit with reality if she was given voicelines with Ram
I have a question, how does reinhards body work.... is he just biologically 9 foot tall, and weighs like 500 pounds, or is it mechanical like genjis.
Or is it a like an exoskeleton which makes him bigger.
Looking at the reinhard reflections image.
He is almost as large as the woman next to him while sitting down in a chair, so yeah. Very tall.
Can Anyone tell me reapers lore?
reaper was in the super soldier program with soldier
he was in overwatch
then he was in blackwatch
then he was in talon where moira was experimenting on him
Were him and soldier friends?
then he was dying so moira saved him by making him all smoky
i think so they were both in overwatch at the same time
not anymore though soldier hates reaper
Why?
Also i heard whenever i play reaper and my mate plays mercy they have sum weird discussion Whats that About?
IIRC, there was black watch, and there was overwatch
Overwatch is nice and tidy, black watch does things the public is not supposed to be aware of, I think reaper was a leader, or at the very least very high ranking, he was a friend of soldier.
However he got involved in a lot of corruption and stuff, I think it was discovered and a conflict happened between them.
mercy also doesnt like reaper
Something like mercy telling him to patch him up or sumthing?
which line?
Oh that makes sense
The reason for that is because reaper's own body is basically stuck together with duct tape, each time he uses his abilities he literally gets pulled apart.
yeah he was friends with soldier 76, however unlike mal and baptiste, it didn't end up well.
But reaper dosent want her help?
mal?
whos mal
baptistes friend inside talon which lets him go after he discovers he wants to leave
malcolm? I forgot his name
well reaper is in talon so like mercy probably wouldnt help him given hes in talon
Ohhh
Mercy and reaper actually know eachother way before talon existed, during black watch period, pre fall of overwatch.
And I am pretty sure she is at the very least aware of his identity.
yeah mercy knows reaper is reyes
I doubt she would help him though, considering he is a terrorist... sorta.
Reaper is like a cartoon villain, he fails most of the time miserably
most of the heroes don't like Reaper
Most of everyone don't like reaper
I like Reaper
does he have any lines with baptiste or lucio?
I know most of the heroes like baptiste.... even his enemies.
and in the case of lucio, they don't usually respond negatively to his banter.
He does have some with baptiste... they are negative, mostly taunting him. ("your heart is beating fast traitor" "Just a reminder you won't see me coming")
The only line I can find online regarding lucio is after he kills reaper, something like "does this make you a deadbeat"
Reaper and widow seem fine with each other
How about sigma and sombra
i mean yeah, Bap quite literally betrayed Talon
i think reaper needs therapy
he only has anger issues and prolly a small bit of depression
“Only”
if you were in constant pain you'd have anger issues and depression too
Some youtuber said doom fist was trash and when i started playing the game eairler i started getting destroyed by dooms
i mean to be fair, would you want those 2 are to have a cracked personality
- this isnt lore talk
2.doom got mega buffed recently he was terrible before season 2
Lore enthusiast, I have a question
In Doomfist's 3d model, Obviously we know he has possession with the Gauntlet but I noticed his right chest is cybernetic (no shit) but also in fact symmetrical to his left chest. This makes me wonder
Does he have to remove his entire arm to connect that giant gauntlet?
he wears the gauntlet over his prosthetic arm
I see
Thought it would be cool if he actually has to switch from prosthetic to gauntlet
Oh wait
I forgot the definition of gauntlet
Yeah makes sense he wears
Sombra protects sigma from much of talons abuse, since talon is just using sigma while sigma is uhhh, a bit mentally unstable.
She is cool, also friends with baptiste
None of the 3 personalities of sigma can deal with politics
Sigma doesn't have 3 personalities
He has 2 in overwatch 1, and 3 in overwatch 2,the 3rd is a mix of the first two innit?
Oh, that is much less interesting, anyways he still isn't mentally stable enough to avoid falling into talons grasp unlike someone like baptiste or sombra
Sigma thinks Talon is helping him, and they kinda are... he just doesn't know that they're using his research for themselves
i was refferring the the chat above
Doom in lore is uhh, interesting.
For example he canonically somehow ripped open his cell prison bars with his bare hands.
No assisted strength from his power fist
I mean he is a big guy, but that kind of feat shouldn't be possible.
He's 50% cybernetic
Guys i think hanzo and genji are brothers
how observant of you
Lmao
The man quite literally leads a global terrorist group. It isn't just the gauntlet. Man has some amazing strength without it
I meant that it is physically impossible
The Strongest man on earth would barely budge prison bars, nevermind bend them
Doom fist is built dif though
he has a cybernetic arm
punching through concrete should be easy
While in prison he didn't have his power fist
not the gauntlet
Unless you mean he has a robot arm under his robot arm
Hmm, maybe it can work if it is like that, though I didn't see it in the cutscene
Why did they allow him to keep a hand capable of punching through concrete in prison
Cut it off
that's inhumane
Likely cause
He broke human rights himself
cybernetics still have nerves in them
Also you cannot keep a weapon in prison
But I guess they allow weaponized cyber modifications in prison though in his case
they do if the jailers are on your side
Tbh doom fists modifications specifically shouldn't be allowed, he is a combat ready, political leader.
And he is not known for his good behaviour, but it doesn't matter if they don't care
Though heroes in lore seem to be something else, doom fist was able to escape with only his modifications, despite many armed guards being there.
Probably cuz they didn't fight
It began in the early hours of the morning, when an unidentified aircraft approached the facility. Security initially reported that the craft had no passengers on board, based on radar scans. The craft passed through the range of the installation's defense systems without incident, leading some to believe that Talon has moles within Helix.
Oof, so it truly was because of corruption
Justice systems are not based on revenge my guy
you dont just break someone's human rights because they broke other peoples'
But yeah it's probably more just that Helix had Talon moles
Weapons are not allowed in prisons, his arm is a weapon
His arm and implants capable of damaging things should be removed
That is how it works irl, unless overwatch prison system is absolute cheese
It’s not an Overwatch prison, and it was an Helix facility
his arm is also his arm
Cutting it off won't kill him
Leaving it on is a liability
Doomfist has a cybernetic arm under his gauntlet
He is literally able to punch a wall down
You can glue it back on once he finishes his prison sentence
Also you can 100% remove it without sawing it off
he IS from a well known prosthetics family, wouldnt surprise me if they had special systems
I doubt his cybernetics are embedded with his flesh
I don't mean attached, but aka inside his cybernetic arm, there is flesh
How do you cut the body of someone heavily augmented like Sojourn? You can’t, even if you have to put them in prison. Maybe dampen their efficiency and remove some implants
He is very tough, also you can turn off his nerves inside the arm while removing it
its more that they also wouldnt believe that he could break through as its heavily defended
You can remove her augmented arms, and give her very shitty ones
It was said some of his implants were removed before going in prison
Or remove her super advanced legs, and replace it with slow ones
Sojourn is like 90% augmented - you just can’t
Lol you can, just detach them, or cut them off, and replace them with something worse
Ribs, heart, spine, skull arms legs
i do wonder how it would go with sym if she wouldve been imprisoned
Also you only need to do it with legs or arms
cuz sym you really cant risk
Nope you can’t unless it’s a serious invasion of the body/human rights
If she can't run away that is enough
If she went to prison, and it is like year's long sentence, that does not matter
Anyway, Doom got help either way from the outside and the inside
And stayed in prison at least 6 years
I believe the system if cybernetics like that exist would probably be even more serious and authoritarian when it comes to enhanced humans
So he was behaving or couldn’t just get out sooner than that
Having people able to just break out and kill everyone at any point inside a small confined space is not a great idea
(Also, some people like Vialli probably liked him behind those walls)
Yet he didn’t do anything before even if he could’ve
He didn't really need to
I mean... They came and got him out themselves
the simplest way to say it is that someone within helix was a mole and "checked" his cybernetics and confirmed them as non-dangerous
so he was allowed to keep it
cuz if it isnt a danger what does it matter
Doom fist is l3git so highly armoured, you can see it in his cinematic his chest muscles literally bounce bullets
That is confirmed
There are moles
exactly
what i meant is
one couldve "checked" his arm and said it isnt strong enough for anything special
Yeah, you could assume that it was his weapon which made him strong rather than the fact he is a walking tank
they couldve legit just said it wasnt harmfull, not all cybernetics are ultra powerfull
What Sojourn lore 🤔
She has a novel
And it's pretty good
what is the relationship between genji and kiriko?
They were friends
Even if his right arm has superhuman strength (which is a good guess but there's nothing that actually suggests this), the force coming from his arm will damage the rest of his body. He probably is "built different" and considering characters like Rein, Zarya, and Mauga it seems that the maximum strength of a human is just way higher in overwatch world
i mean i think thats obvious, it is in the future so EVOLUTION!
Reinhardt would be born by now
It's probably just always been like that, just like how japanese clans just always hat spirit animals
who knows maybe the people now are stronger
they arent grown yet
they eat their vegtables
how far in the future is it?
like bc evolution hasnt changed peoples bodies for a very long time
and in a civilized society being strong =/= you having more children
~60 years
pve when
2023 i thought
Yeah, 2023
I personally predict season 5.
But realistically its season 4 at the absolute earliest
@limpid agate i still have hope for season 3
'Very long time' is an extremely heavy overexaggeration
Considering the scope of how long the human race has existed
Or, rather, how short of a time it has existed
how long do you think a very long time is?
For evolution, multiple dozen thousand years
evolution hasn't changed humans noticeably in 300,000 years
that's when the first Homo sapiens appear in the fossil record
there have been small adaptations, like skin colour or height, but aside from that, humans have been basically the same for 300,000 years
anyway, this is getting off topic
i farted
top 5 strongest list?
Sigma, Symmetra, Winston, Orisa, Reaper/Doomfist
because he can control gravity
idk why i said sigma
Doomfist has been beaten canonically by Winston and Orisa
i meant symmetra
Symmetra can create almost anything with hard light
i wouldnt say he got beaten by winston tbf, winston broke every bone in his body
what
or was i told lies
Winston beat Doomfist, leading to his capture
as seen in Doomfist's origin story
Winston did not break every bone in his body
i still think doomfist stronger, beating someone in a 1v1 dosent mean your more powerful
Sure
But beating someone whose main strength is their cybernetic fist in a fist fight does
Winston didnt beat him with tech or gear or anything
i see your point but
And Doomfist had the Doomfist gauntlet
yk what i need to recap
Sigma, Winston, Symmetra, and Orisa are all contenders for the #1 strongest hero
Doomfist isnt
Orisa?
Orisa is very, very durable
Orisa isnt that strong she was just made to counter doom
And she has very powerful weapons
why zenyatta not there
not enough feats?
how
He's borderline civillian
genji stated he cannot touch him and he mastered the iris
I can guarantee you that Genji never said "he mastered the iris"
no
it was meant to be another point
he mastered the iris and genji said he cannot touch him
oh
I dont understand the question
what happends in the future
oh i thought yall had comics
We do
They're set in the present
The most recent event chronologically is Cassidy's Old Soldiers
Err
New Blood*
you think there will be more stuff in the pve missions
He wont be
Short Stories:
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What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE
Stone By Stone: https://bit.ly/36EsPul
Code of Violence: https://bit.ly/33CeroL
Yōkai: https://bit.ly/3UDJzKb
Reflections: https://bit.ly/3FiMNx2
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@limpid agate Why u read lore man
its boring
why u know everything about lore
TRUE
it's not boring
then why are you here?
i like funny stories that writers make up to build and set up their world
i like the lore
ye reading lore broing asf i aint gonna read a 20 page novel just to know reaper not invicible
i dont think its boring
i like just being told it
then watch videos
can you not tell me why reapers not invincible
he should be
makes cells decay
because he can still be killed
and then normal
lol reaper is noob
reaper could be killed by someone like widow right?
reaper can die when i gobastion men what you mean
probably
like he probably couldnt go all smoky fast enough to not get hit by the bullet
i dont like soilder 76
he could if he saw it coming
i think hes cool
nah if i had reapers abilities ill be number 1 in the overwatch lore
old overwatch leader gone rogue
winston beats you
ye but hes a bitch
he wont
phase punch boom shotgun to the head
no plot armour
UR SUPER NOOB BRO
id actually body them
Winston always has plot armor
REAPER IS 100 TIMES BETTER THAN U
he has
winston beat me when i had reapers abilites?
tickle gun makes it so reaper cant go smoky from what we've seen
yeah winston beats reaper
a monkey that has beaten doomfist
ye but doomfist a bitch
like
monkey jumped up and leaped to doom
ur a knoob bro
and doom just stood still
uh no?
like if i was doom
so knoob
ur a knop men
watch the doomfist cinematic thats not what happened
i would of backed off and uppercutted that monkeys ass
doom didnt just stand there
he kinda did he just stood still and let out a punch
doom have 1.5X strength because of race value
no???
and so does winston
DO YUO EVEN LIFT MAN
have you watched the doomfist lore video thats not what happened
lemme see
SO DUMMY
Bro lifting barely makes you a better fighter
and yes i do
UR SO KNOOB
your a fucking loser
LOL SO KNOOB
bro how old are yhou
guys can we please talk about lore
i said so noob when i was like fucking 8 playing roblox or som
its a game not related to ow lore though
reaper is 58?
yes
wait how long ago did overwatch start?
30 years ago
oh wow
anubis declared war i thought
Overwatch started during the omnic crisis, which is 30 years before present
anubis attacked a bunch of guys and overwatch stopped them
anubis attacked using omnics though
?
nobody in talon respects him
Anubis took control of the omniums around the world and tried to exterminate humanity
why?
we don't know why
idk sigma was a excellent scientist before the black hoel
i think hes pretty smart
not anymore bro 💀
i dont think the black hole made him dumb
he cant focus on anything
he's still a genius
nah cause he ignores everyone and focuses on tiny shit
that doesnt make him dumb
why dont you think he can focus
that doesn't mean he' stupid
cause like
soilder was like
snap out of it old man
and he was like
ant
voice lines arent always canon
not really
hes broken bro
the black hole in his brain didnt make him dumb
im not even gonna bother bro
turn off their gravity
and someone could just put a bullet in his head before he does that
Sigma a man who cannot concentrate nearly as well as a normal human
he can stop a bullet
why dont you think he can concentrate
its not that deep lmaoooo you two
your an idiot bro
no need
no genuinely
not an answer
you're*
fr 💀
You're an idiot do you know how hard it is impossible to catch a bullet mid air, most tech nowerdays (overwatch is in the future so the tech is much more faster) travels at 820mph, how can he catch that
he can control gravity
he controls gravity?
he can stop a piece of metal
Shit oh ok
Did you just realize that after all this time?
Its sarcasm
Bro
if i get a gun and shoot him in suprise
no way
is he stopping that
He literally would
So what part of him
Get the fuck out of here then'
Having gravity = thinking and reacting before a bullet of 820mph+ hits him
It's not that serious 
wym
Keep in mind sigma is not a normal human anymore, his mind is broken.
too lazy to look it up, but Reinhardt is german too right
Yes
People be idiots man dont worry
He has shield health so the bullet will just bounce off.
and lacking attention doesn't mean being completely unable to foucus
I thought you were talking about genji.
Although gameplay abilities aren't canon it'll be funny if he'd just eat up the bullet with kinetic grasp
If gameplay were canon, beats by Dre can cure cancer and a tranquilizer dart can knock robots out cold
I said gameplay abilities not gameplay mechanics
No u
Genji couldn't
he can dodge a person shooting him
No he’s not,
He’s a genius
too? there is only one german hero
Probally was tbh
Like he cant even sense moiras sarcasm
probably just does not care
I mean Mercy is Swiss but speaks German if I remember
German is an official language in Switzerland so it makes perfect sense that she speaks German
Theory: reaper is a woman under the mask
Sigma has the power and has been in the top 5 since he’s been introduced
and, he isnt a dumbass
this was actually confirmed
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Reaper isn't a woman
yet
It's strange having so little in terms of lore but now it's all starting to materialize
and not that much was even made recently
i dont see anything materializing
there's more lore than people realize
i mean magic and spirits might be a thing now so
when they actually ground themselves to something and stick to it, and maybe release more than 2 page short comics
theyve been a thing since dragons came out
we've been getting far more than that for a while

we've had 3 novels, 2 5-part comics
and no
yes
there were dragon sprits in that cinematic
the entirety of ow1 hanzo dragons and such were not confirmed as spirits
the dragons have always been spirits
they even said there is no magic
u were literally saying at one point that it might be hardlight tattoos
the community just made up the idea that they're hard light
now ur 180'ing?
it could just be that the former writer didn't consider spirits to be magic
it'd be nice to get an actual small movie, or actual story animations besides a new character introduction
if they were hardlight tattoos why would genji be able to control hanzos
why would hanzo say "only a shimdada can control dragons"
the PvE will have intro and outro cutscenes for every mission
idk prob cuz it's a fictional game where they can chalk up science to anything
Honestly how did Mccree ever get into Blackwatch he's just a dude with an outdated gun

hes an incredible strategist
he's a really good shot and Gabriel saw his potential
hes beaten all of the deadlock gang at once
"my hard light connection better than urs im real shimada"
like they can go any route
Bro could have at least had a better gun then
to justify some dumb shit like that
thats weak and doesnt really make sense
any explanation we came up with was always a stretch
but isn't thats syms reason for being in viskars program
Like give him something like Snipes revolver from MHA
sym is a bootleg green lantern yea
based on the events of dragons it only makes sense for it to be dragon spirits
yes, now. as they are now confirmed spirits as kiriko's fox is a spirit
before it was not, what so ever
for 6 years
so
that's the thing about stories
sometimes you don't get all the information at the start
do not give me the "mystery" copout. 6 years my guy
warhammer 40k has done it for 30, and it does not make it good all the time
We now know that the spirits are dragons but that was not confirmed until recently (was there ever an official confirmation from devs that there is or is it just obvious now)
he can call it what he likes
we can go back and fourth for eternity
like it wouldnt make sense for them to be the only ones with these dragons and that only shimadas can control them unless theyre dragon spirits
how would it not
they could make sense of it however they want
even if it was technology lol
clearly you have not mastered the power of sci fi technobabble
deadass
why would they be the only ones who have it
the question doesnt have an answer unless its spirits
"the dna coded hardlight generators hidden in our bodies at birth allow us to control the dragons"
why would that be specific to them
why would they be able to control each others dragons
"our hardlight technology is unique to the shimada clan only, only our clan has this technology, the dragons design and infrastructure is our making"
like literally
anything
they invented it that's why
other places have hardlight
if it was hardlight sym could make one
oh u dont
but not shimada dna locking tech
although i personally always liked the spirit explanation
Because they're poor
sym has hardlight she would have dragons if thats what created it
u dont have bleeding edge tech only developed by a specific person, why not?
Symm isn't poor lol
dumb hill to die on
the person who developed it would have the technology
why didnt china have the light bulb but tesla did
so if it was that technology sym would have it
why
her dragons would be controllable

I dont see why this is a problem
I mean yeah it's not that deep
why whick is a problem
it's just a dumb hill to defend
They're spirits end of story tbh
so its hardlight thats only controllable by a specific family and the other people who have hardlight dont have it and shimadas only give it to themselves bc????
It was pretty fair to assume they were spirits before
they wanna keep it
if i invent something myself why would i give it to other people if i want to keep it for myself
so then like give it to other trusted people in your clan
you make your clan way more powerful if everybody in it has magic dragons
that would make them a shimada who controls the dragon
ok so JUST UR CLAN
???
no one else BUT ONLY UR CLAN
"but why doesnt sym have it"
lmfao
but its funny
if somehow shimadas were the only ones who were able to make the dragon technology why would they only give it to two guys one of which was a rebel and had to be killed because he was dangerous to the clan]
the mental processing
I treat it like any other fact that I got wrong - I correct myself and move on
they are the heirs
right?
i remember there being a fan comic where sym makes a dragon and then hanzo says omg shes my long lost sister
it was based on the same hard light assumtion
they would be if they added more to them
i wanna see hanzo dragon get mauled by genji and talk his shit
then they fight again for OW3
tangentially related why does kiriko make mention of using old and new techniques but what new techniques? she has shrine fox powers (old) and ninja techniques (old)
she's got a cool bike
can't wait until i see her on it
Well martial arts has a ridiculous amount of creative potential, so some of her ninja techniques might not be old, but instead created by herself or apart of a new wave of techniques
The new is that she wears normal clothes
That's not a joke
That's about it
why do they shoot rockets at the bastions instead of just using the crusaders in the cinematic
They have miniguns
They will just melt through their armor
Its not like in game where the crusaders have 500+ health
Its an army of Bastions with a shit load of bullets
shooting rockets seems like the smarter idea tbh i don't know why they never show people using artilery on the omnics or something
because all of their heavy equipment magically disappeared
Honestly imagine if they had Winston during the Omnic war
genetic modification
Idk my question is why is his primal rage strong enough to beat Doomfist
because the plot needs it to be
Doom is a cybernetically enhanced physically peak human with the combat IQ, skill and experience of an extremely talented world champion martial artist, who wields an infamously powerful high tech weapon
Winston just goes "OOOOOOOO GRRRAAAAHHHRRRRRAAAAHHHHHHHUUUUH!!!"
Though I guess Winston is a REALLY fucking big gorilla
Like his size would be an anomaly amongst gorillas
He is to gorillas what a 6'7 man is to us
It's weird but I kinda want another animal
But as a support
Nah actually I can't imagine it right
More omnics would be nice though
I know we just got one but we only have like 5
Technically 6 if you want to count Genji
Genji is not an omnic
Yeah well I don't count him but I know some people say otherwise
In a weird way Genji is set up to be hypothetically one of the strongest characters in the lore
If he can ascend the Iris like Zen has
Zen hasn't ascended either
He's got powers, is what I mean
Who the hell is the Idina Moira mentions to Orisa
Idina is the name of the model that Orisa was made from
like how Bastion is the name of the E54 omnic
Yeah it's cute that Bastion really is just basically like a dog they call dog instead of giving a name until it simply feels as though it's his name
When Lucio reloads his gun, what is in the capsules?
Battery's right?
music
Concentrated music
How does that work?
You put the sounds in capsules
Dosnt make much sense but ok
who would win
very intelligent strategist with many cybernetic implants and a state of the art gauntlet that can bring down skyscrapers
or
angry monkey
who would win
hyper intelligent genetically modified gorilla who is a brilliant scientist
or
angry terrorist
are winstons glasses the original dr winstons glasses from the lunar colony?
no
so what happened to winston?
he was on lunar colony then ???? and hes on earth being leader of overawatch
because the rest of the apes killed all the scientists
and sigmas stuff happened near that time at lunar colony right?
not at the lunar colony
i think it was at an unrelated space station
i thought sigma went to horizon
ig i was wrong
the "like father like son" implies he did
he did it was just at a different time
but that's not where he did his experiment
Sigma balls
Despite doing his experiment years ago in the space station, do you think the issues it has now are black hole related and it could technically still be as a result of the accident?
Sigma's issues are 100% related to the black hole experiment
Black holes do be wibbly wobbly with the timey wimey
true...
Sigma's experiment was at least 4 years ago
how old is ana?
the maps are... not exactly fixed to a specific time
60
and were ana soldier and winston in overwatch at the same time?
Yes
at the end of Overwatch, yes
how long did overwatch last?
but Winston only joined about 10-12 years ago
20ish years
wait are lucheng interstellar and sigma's accident connected?
reaper's voiceline about lucheng interstellar not being clean makes sense now
Lucheng Interstellar has a space station
Sigma's accident was on a space station
logically, they're the same space station
On top of that
Lucheng is responsible for the Horizon Lunar Colony
And Sigma is familiar with the scientists of the colony
Who themselves are also tied to Lucheng
Hes personally been to the colony as well
i wanna cream all over D.vas fcae
Wha-
maybe a stupid question but can tracer take winstons machine off at all?
thx
is Ana's new botanist skin the first and only one that features her cybernetic eye? super confusing choice
Is there lore as to why reaper throws his guns instead of reloading? And where does he get the new ones
And I just read tracers guns reload by traveling back in time? That’s insane
Where did you read that? I want too
Sniper and Young Ana feature her cybernetic eye
Stupid question maybe but why is her TV so far away from the couch, is this common in the UK?
The artist isnt an interior decorator
The layout is different again in her comic series
With the tv in a more normal spot
lore
amazing theory: genji is a woman
What is Moira's favourite anime?
The monkey is genetically modified on the lunar moon base
he sees the scientist named winston as a father figure or smth, the other animals start a revolution and kill the scientists
Monkey chooses to call himself winston in a reference to his friend
and then builds an escape pod and flies to earth
where he joins overwatch
Anyways I think moira's favourite anime is NGE since it's all about psychology of humans and science shit
I dont know if I can send links, google “how does tracer reload reddit” and it will come up
Someone mentioned a short of her pack malfunctioning and it disables her guns so Im trying to find it
Found it
“Overwatch Cinematic Trailer” on youtube from the channel “EB Games Australia”
At 3:10 in
Its also in pins
Cinematic Trailer: http://bit.ly/1yhzaCC
Fight for the Future: http://www.playoverwatch.com In a time of global crisis, an international task force of heroes banded together to restore peace to a wa...
God I hate these children
Yeah
