lore-discussion

[worthy rose]

its real

[drowsy dock]

just fan fic?

[peak escarp]

they've never met in canon

that isn't lore

[sharp trench]

“i’m not giving up on you, reyes”
“I wish you would”
noncanon?
iirc the voicelines are just “what if they met”, but this one seems not, as if it had history

[peak escarp]

it still falls into the "what if" category

[sharp trench]

seems odd to me, unless mercy previously worked on reaper’s condition during OW when he was still in blackwatch

that, or it’s just referring to some unclarified mission they worked together outside of the canon

[peak escarp]

or it's just a "what if" line that shows Mercy's caring personality

[sharp trench]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

and reaper’s ego

[dreamy epoch]

that one actually confused me because I thought they had interacted before
but if they did we don't have records of it

[sharp trench]

It could mean they have

not definitive though

[icy drum]

i think it could be interpreted as the two having interacted in the past, but not necessarily mercy working on reaper’s condition?

“im not giving up on you” could refer to redeeming him, not necessarily fixing him physically

[haughty warren]

just to confirm zenyatta IS throwing the orbs around his neck right

[keen summit]

hes not throwing them

[haughty warren]

is he throwing like their ghosts

[keen summit]

hes projecting energy from them

[haughty warren]

so ghosts

[keen summit]

not really ghosts

[haughty warren]

so like with the nutcracker skin you are throwing cracked nuts

[keen summit]

just energy

we'll see sum similair with rammatra

[haughty warren]

ramatatma

[full creek]

Rammatra kills all the omnics. The end gg

[keen summit]

why would he?

[full creek]

Cuz why not. He look’s overpowered and he’s beefy to the max

[keen summit]

but his motivations are legit to protect omnics

[full creek]

See

That’s the whole thing

Betrayal✊

😱

Takes over the omny crisis then just goes on with the OW team

Idk

[opaque scroll]

...

[full creek]

Don’t mind me… just tweakin

[opaque scroll]

For sure

[full creek]

Thanks

[opaque scroll]

You do you

[full creek]

Bet

So back to what I was saying

Then mercy just flying in

Goin all moves

Like flyin crazy

Just pocketing the ramamatra

Or whatever the name is

Dude😱

I just thought of something

Maybe they just cancel the crisis then just trade it with a ww3 with a billion solder 76’s on each side🥶

Now that’s some lore if I’ve ever seen sum

Who wants some tea🧐

💀

My bad for being so random, imma probably be reported for spam or banned but if you’re reading this, think over the lore… it’s on god big brain🙃

[graceful dust]

money thats smart=winton

[full creek]

[full creek]

Yes

[past copper]

@full creek Elon Musk just tweeted, he wants his crazy back

Fr tho. Stop the crazy shitposting. Not the place for it

[lusty quartz]

hello i am silver 2 and i am looking for some guys whot want to do ranked ( i am dps )

[drifting viper]

Wrong channel

!lfg

Whats the command

#roles-old

[gentle forge]

lore wise who's stronger? Sigma or Doomfist?

[keen summit]

big debates bout it, we dont know the limits of sigma. if we assume he can just control gravity without a limit though sigma 1000000%

[gentle forge]

seeing what he can do Ingame with his ultimate i think it'd be fair to assume he could rip people apart if he wanted to

[keen summit]

exactly

or just add 100 tons of gravity

[gentle forge]

but then Doomfist can also level skyscrapers

[keen summit]

it was said that he could, we dont know if he really could

and also i do think sigma could do that too quite easily

[gentle forge]

true true

[keen summit]

doom is raw power and tactics, but that doesnt matter if you cant move

[gentle forge]

what about genji

[keen summit]

doom is in upper echelon though

[keen summit]

definition of glass cannon

[gentle forge]

Hanzo?

[keen summit]

he can cut people in half if he would want to with one slash but also can be read and hit

[keen summit]

hes limited by his use of his bow instead of a sword

and he also doesnt have any cybernetics

hes good but defo not upper echelons

hes around the average of the roster

upper echelons (might miss some) orisa sigma doomfist symmetra winston

these are all super powerfull people

[gentle forge]

who's a better support

Baptiste or Kiriko

[keen summit]

in game or in lore?

[gentle forge]

in game

[keen summit]

cuz in game move to ow-s

[torpid pulsar]

Wild

[keen summit]

true

[torpid pulsar]

How can overwatch beat sigma and doomfist at the same time

[hollow pine]

Hanzo is like a hunter and is like a samurai from one of those old cool samurai movies

[torpid pulsar]

🙏

[keen summit]

sigma through convincing, doomfist by getting orisa

[hollow pine]

Most of the characters are simply stereotypes and tropes though

[uneven isle]

Sigma seems ignorant about it tho

[keen summit]

They start as a trope but have more to them than their trope

Kiriko everything, what she can do, her past, what she does now etc it sounds like an anime plot

[hollow pine]

fair enough

well isn't that just because she's a new character then?

and she'll grow more later?

[keen summit]

No

Sigma since release hasnt gotten anything

Yet has more depth

Kiriko has more, cinematic and origin story

And short story

New character isnt an excuse

[hollow pine]

The way I see it, some characters are just less story/character focused and more just mechanically focused ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Like, that's how they were designed

I do agree that Kiriko's short story and video sucked

But it's more about time than amount of videos or whatever

[keen summit]

Eh i think its legit just that shes weeb bait

I care lots bout writing

But shes legit geberic shonen protag

[hollow pine]

I don't see her as a protag really

She's a support, obviously a protag would be a dps ;)

To me she's just bratty fox shine girl ninja

[heavy basalt]

i think what he means is her character, being all playful, cool and chill whilst being op and really friendly

[hollow pine]

To me she just needs time for people to adjust to her existing before cool stuff can start deepening her character

[heavy basalt]

she has a fucking fox spirit and fucks with the yakuza on a daily level, also she trained with the robot ninja and this one bow guy who talks about honour all day long

i think many ppl would consider that as "cool"

[hollow pine]

yeah nah that's one type of coolness

[heavy basalt]

its a lot more then some other characters are getting
||zen||

[keen summit]

Also the lore, ahem trained under a clan to learn the way of the sword while also learning how to use the fox spirit, now she protects her home with magical spirit powers in secret with a gang of people against evil gang members.
Also how she acts with everyone loving her

[keen summit]

He still has connections to an interesting plot point, the iris

The biggest waste with kiriko is that shes the first since genji with a relationship to hanzo yet she doesnt ever talk about the incident nor does she ever talk to genji about his cyborg body

Like not even a joke about how it looks like a thing from wjat they used to watch sometimes which couldve been a fun nodcto them being stereotypical while also adding that cuz sje has powers she might have a complex that she thinks shes the protag

Same is how i felt bout jq with 4th wall breaks, you couldve made it part of her in lore, say she believes shes the center of the world so she always acts like she is being watched but it was dropped after the cinematic

[heavy basalt]

everything that u suggest would imply that blizzard actually would give effort into the storytelling of this game

[keen summit]

Thing is they do with others

[heavy basalt]

with very few

[keen summit]

They put effort in as otherwise why would they create comics for free cinematics origin stories etc

[heavy basalt]

they are putting in effort yes, but not nearly as much as they could

[keen summit]

Thing is more that it feels like all the Japanese characters except maybe genji are just weeb bait. Genji still has potential cuz hes part of overwatch but even there he is the silent badass character in zero hour

[heavy basalt]

this game only lives on bc of the potential it has and the dumb players who love this game for whatever reason (includes me too)

[heavy basalt]

genji is the ultimate weeb bait

[keen summit]

I love the lore thats what keeps me coming.

[heavy basalt]

the loser of the family who gets betrayed and comes back as this wise cybord ninja with the swiss girl everyone ships him with

[keen summit]

Yeah, but he atleast has some potential in the story. Its just sad writing for them is bad

[heavy basalt]

the dream of every loser weeb

[keen summit]

Like

[hollow pine]

What do you mean she doesn't say it? She literally calls herself a queen

She is a queen

[keen summit]

Compare all japanese characters to say mei, sigma, doomfist etc

[heavy basalt]

well yes, mei for example is the most boring character there is with lucio and a few others

[heavy basalt]

everybody loves sigma

[keen summit]

Problem with mei is simple tbh and also bad writing, she got over it wayyy too fast

[heavy basalt]

the schizophrenic dude who is lore wise the most powerful character there is

[keen summit]

It was like fuck all my friends died, welp

Time to go

[heavy basalt]

all my friends died, hmm

anyway

globalwarming is a thing

[keen summit]

She had a grand total of 1 line of regret

With moira

Which now is gone

But atleast she isnt j́ust her nationality stereotype

[heavy basalt]

well she doesnt have enough character to have a stereotype

she is a scientist which is stereotype enough for china ig

[keen summit]

Eh

Could be way worse

But yes alot suffer from bad writing

[heavy basalt]

and then we have characters like rein

which let us forget about all the bad things

[keen summit]

But just being a stereotype of their country, nothing more seems truly kinda genji, kiriko and hanzo's thing. Like i think if you wrote their story abd said it was an anime everyone would beliebe you

[keen summit]

Rein is one of those perfect examples of representation done right imho. He is a german knight, quite simple,about honour and glory. But hes aldo responsible and just a good person while having true connections

[heavy basalt]

you also just could make a clint eastwood movie out of mccree and ashe

[hollow pine]

What's wrong with anime btw?

[heavy basalt]

nothing

but putting everything Japanese in this anime corner is just weeb bait

just like yasuo from league, as an example

[keen summit]

Nothing im just saying that its generic

[keen summit]

If you read this you would think its av shonen anime

[hollow pine]

I dunno, maybe. Hanzo seems more like a samurai movie than a shounen anime though

Also like, all the characters are anime characters

[dreamy epoch]

it is generic but it's also helpful to remember that genericism doesn't necessarily affect the quality of the media but the content

if something has clear cultural themes yeah it may be baiting but that doesn't immediately make it bad in my eyes
dragons is still a great short and hanzo and genji are pretty great
genji specifically detached a lot from what one would consider the stereotype in being a part of blackwatch

origin story wise yeah it's

Japanese but I don't really know how it would be much else

[hollow pine]

And then he's also cyborg and came to terms with what that means

Trained with some badass robot monks

Zen in Sym's short story is really cool.

[alpine pawn]

hes described as so wise any person that spends enough time with him is changed for life, and thus long that has been the case

[carmine lichen]

new player here, how tf does disco man heal? he just plays music??

[broken cargo]

im not sure but i think he doesnt heal in the lore

so it isint really explained

[peak escarp]

he doesn't

[broken cargo]

not sure tho

[peak escarp]

that's just in the game

[opaque scroll]

Oh, my bad

[broken cargo]

aight

[peak escarp]

he does play music, which helps people fight in sync with each other (speed boost)

and he also has a Sound Barrier

[worthy rose]

hey yall talking about mah main?

[ivory garnet]

Lucio the only support who hasnt been shown to heal

[uneven light]

What is this melody

[peak escarp]

stop

[worthy rose]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[past copper]

Considering the shop and battlepass have used up all the random skins now, I think this is the most likely skins to see come Dec. 6

Well, depending on what the week before that looks like

I’m basing this on guess work alone, bc if a story focused hero like Ramattra is joining

It would make sense to have more story-ish focused skins in the shop or BP

I’m also going by the fact these are the only skins shown off in the trailer that haven’t appeared yet while others all have

[vale belfry]

!!lorenewest

[last tapir]

Do u guys think we will have like a lore taster event (archives) leading up to the release of story more ( possibly to get everyone hyped?)

Mode*

[opaque scroll]

Maybe

[last tapir]

I'm really hoping so I want to been spoon fed with so much content

Maybe they would do one of the storymode games that was at blizzcon?

[peak escarp]

I don't expect Archives to come back

[past copper]

Well, maybe you should

Not to say anything bad about Blizzard

But if they’re having difficulty with the story, then Archives will have to be the buffer until they release it

[peak escarp]

why would they be having difficulty with the story?

[ivory garnet]

they arent having difficulty with the story at all

they’re just finishing up stuff and adding graphics

as all studios do

and the buffer is the multiplayer being out before the PvE

[peak escarp]

yeah

[ivory garnet]

they wouldnt add back Archives unless it would contribute to the PvE

[peak escarp]

the story has been done for a while, it's the talents and cutscenes that have been holding things up

[past copper]

Even so, it still would require time, effort, and whoever has final say on everything

Until we get a smaller window within 2023, I’m just saying

Because a year is pretty big. But say within something like Summer that would be better news

[peak escarp]

even if the Archives event still happens, we won't get a new mission

[snow coral]

how old is zenyatta

[peak escarp]

20

[past copper]

Never said anything about a new mission

I said we’d get archives, but nothing new from them

[peak escarp]

what's the point in bringing back Archives without a new mission for the third year in a row

[past copper]

To keep players busy while the devs finish up the PvE

[peak escarp]

that's what the PvP is for

[past copper]

I mean, that was basically the plan for the remix events until OW2 was launched

But who knows. We’ve gotten so little on PvE, there’s no telling what will happen

[peak escarp]

I'm not worried

[past copper]

Frankly, I’d be more surprised if we got a new winter game

[peak escarp]

why?

[past copper]

I mean, if we can get a new game for Halloween, maybe we could get a new one for Winter

But that probably wishful thinking

[peak escarp]

we'll find out next week

[past copper]

Honestly. Yeti Hunt is fun, Snowball is kinda mid tho

[peak escarp]

when they share the roadmap

[past copper]

Something that would be a fun change is show off that environment change to a map for a game

Throw in a real blizzard or snow storm

Honestly, that would spice things up in either Yeti Hunt and Snowball

Would make things more fun and challenging for players

[dreamy epoch]

pve challenge (hard)

archives is a dead horse at this point

and it'll just reiterate how grueling the wait for "new" pve will be

the only thing I think it's good for now is the story recap

which I feel would be useful for a plethora of new players considering overwatch didn't do much innovating at the time

[fluid marsh]

sigma=strongest in lore

[limpid agate]

Debatably

[ivory garnet]

the resources are there for everyone to catch up on the story as it is

no reason bring back Archives

It’ll probably be February-May for PvE to launch

if even that

[limpid agate]

Some people are speculating season 4

[ivory garnet]

Blizzard has horrible scheduling but not that horrible

It’ll be end of s2 going into s3 most likely

as Doctor Six said, they’re only working on cutscenes and maybe touching up the gameplay

[limpid agate]

Season 3 I feel is a good chance

Since that season would be otherwise dead

[past copper]

It all depends on whether or not the team is getting their act together

They’ve been saying this and that are coming in S2

Whether not those things actually show progress remain to be seen

We can only wait and see in another 2 weeks

[dreamy epoch]

delivery challenge (hard)

ram is gonna be pretty nice though

[peak escarp]

the only things they've promised for season 2 are Ramattra and a new map

not exactly difficult promises to keep

[ivory garnet]

this man has that “think the worst and experience the best” typa mindset

Im frankly happy for whenever PvE releases

because I guarantee it’ll be worth the wait

[obtuse crown]

!lfg 1 high plat dps

lol my bad

[waxen moon]

i think

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[keen summit]

what?

[past copper]

They’re just shitposting

[rotund maple]

dude dont post weird things please

[worthy rose]

!!Shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[worthy rose]

!!Shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[waxen moon]

tf bro leave me alone

[gentle eagle]

don't do that in this channel

[prisma prairie]

canonically, who is the most powerful character?

is it sigma?

[covert tangle]

always though it was doom

[prisma prairie]

sigma got beat by monkey

and got kicked out of numbani by orisa

i feel like sigma could be the strongest if he learned how to fully harness his powers

[uneven isle]

Easily. Hes got one of the most powerful powers

[keen summit]

u mean doom?

[toxic mesa]

Who trynna gift me the battle pass?

[livid elbow]

it was Doomfist that was beaten by Winston

from this image from the buson map, that triangle, would that indicate the MEKA headquarters?

https://imgur.com/azmTL9f

[old basalt]

Yes

[mossy hamlet]

doctor_six already made a top 6 power scaling list for the characters

1. Sigma
2. Symmetra
3. Winston
4. Orisa
5. Reaper
6. Doomfist

they were stuck on doom and reaper, so they kinda just both took up the 5th spot

but they eventually decided on reaper then doomfist

[peak escarp]

it's hard to say for sure, but yeah

based on what people tend to think as "powerful"

[mossy hamlet]

ok but imagine sigma with vishkar hardlight tech

how would that go

[molten shore]

What makes symetra so strong

[worthy rose]

blue light

[molten shore]

Is it actually really stronger in lore then game?

[opaque scroll]

hard* light

[limpid agate]

Yes

We don't know the limits

But she can make, for a recent example, a kilometer tall axe

She's on track to repeatedly defy physics, and her construction speed is near instant according to her old bio

[livid elbow]

Cool, thanks

[molten shore]

Wait so lucio got his dad's tech back from vishcar how did that go down

[livid elbow]

Also, considering from the destroyer comic, Omnic Titans that are constructed for war are stronger than the Omnic Titan in the comic which was meant to construct buildings, and Genji managed to reflect an attack back at the former.

[torn brook]

someone is scared of discord messages 😈

[past copper]

Hyped for Ramattra gameplay trailer tomorrow

I’d really like to see just how he shifts into his Nemesis Form

[weary ravine]

ok srs question since overwatch takes place in future do you guys think that there are still ppl that still think Australia doesnt exist

[mossy hamlet]

his e ability

[mossy hamlet]

considering how much of a wasteland/apocalyptic hellscape it is in overwatch, it would be impossible to deny its existence

[mossy hamlet]

well she can make a hardlight wall that can span through entire cities, apparently

[keen summit]

no his shift

[mossy hamlet]

ah you right

[surreal bramble]

Yes very strong

[ivory garnet]

its busted

[limpid agate]

We dont know the limits

But we just keep getting told and shown how absurd hard light is

I guess one limit we know is that Symmetra believes she can make an axe of hard light that is only one kilometer tall

[worthy rose]

Interesting

[limpid agate]

For comparison

[alpine pawn]

well a kilometer of anything is very op

[limpid agate]

The Burj Khalifa is the tallest building in the world, and its only 800m tall

So Symmetra can build a weapon taller than the tallest building in the world

That's also twice as tall as the tallest structure in the entire western hemisphere

Which is the CN tower

[alpine pawn]

besides we also have to think hard like is able to create any material as they are never mentioned when talking of hardlight

[limpid agate]

Like

Think of the tallest building you have ever seen

Now put an exact copy of that building on top of it

Symmetras theoretical axe is taller than that

[alpine pawn]

also since we can see her create some devices in her comic we can also say she can make working technology

[limpid agate]

She can make working physics defying technology like teleporters and floating rocks

[alpine pawn]

well she technically used physics both times just so advanced they seem impossible to us

so yeah sci-fi magic

[prisma prairie]

why is reaper > doomfist in the list?

[opaque scroll]

@prisma prairie

[vocal marsh]

Bruh they literally said oops

[queen magnet]

what is lore

[vocal marsh]

The story behind the game

The setting and history of the events in the game

[worthy rose]

No idea. Both Winston (Primal ofc) and Doomfist are superior to Reaper in power

[surreal bramble]

Reaper by what we’ve seen is unkillable

[peak escarp]

pretty much

[surreal bramble]

He got fried by Winston’s arc energy thing

[peak escarp]

both Doomfist and Reaper have lost to Winston

[surreal bramble]

Should’ve died

[surreal bramble]

Tho In reapers case it was smarts

[woeful wren]

Winston has plot armor

Winston couldn’t be giant robot tho

Genji could but Genji lost to Doom

So they all got different skill-sets I suppose

[peak escarp]

this is why it's impossible to judge who is the strongest or most powerful

[waxen moon]

oop

[peak escarp]

more specific comparisons - like who would win in a fight, or who is physically stronger/smarter/etc - are easier to discuss

[surreal bramble]

I find it funny how we have maps for Cuba Italy and Greece but no hero’s for em, I hope we get them down the line

[peak escarp]

we have plenty of heroes that don't have maps either

[prisma prairie]

wbt sigma? i feel like its hars to disagree with him being the strongest

[peak escarp]

him being strongest is based on speculation

we haven't seen him use his powers in the lore yet

[ivory garnet]

Best brawlers are Doomfist and Winston, those are the strongest in that category

Best shots, Widowmaker, Ana, Ashe and maybe Cass

Best IQ, Sigma, Winston, Moira, and Mercy

[peak escarp]

the strongest non-augmented human is Zarya

[ivory garnet]

yeah her genes are crazy

and battle iq

[vocal marsh]

Don’t we also have maps that aren’t in lore like Ilios and Blizzard World?

And also ones that don’t make sense for combat like Oasis

[vocal marsh]

Yeah he’s kinda been ignored in the lore

[peak escarp]

Ilios and Blizzard World exist in the lore

[limpid agate]

As does Oasis

The combat is just an excuse for gameplay on pretty much all of the maps

They stopped caring about trying to give you a reason to fight since launch

[vocal marsh]

Ik Oasis exists, Moira mentions it, it just doesn’t make sense as a map

[vocal marsh]

Where?

[surreal bramble]

rammatra might have some hostile words to say to characters like Junker queen, junk rat,sombra,road hog etc

[vocal marsh]

Why Sombra?

I’d be interested to see his interactions with Zarya though

[surreal bramble]

She likes to hack random omnics

Hack

I mean

[vocal marsh]

Since when?

[surreal bramble]

God

[vocal marsh]

I don’t think she’d do that, she has bigger plans

[surreal bramble]

She does it for the funnies

It’s lore from ow1

She’s probably changed since then

But I doubt it

[vocal marsh]

Can I get the link?

[surreal bramble]

I don’t have it on me

[limpid agate]

How does it not make sense as a map

[vocal marsh]

I mean why would there be combat at a laboratory/university

Unless it’s explained further in lore

[surreal bramble]

I mean

The lunar colony is a map

Well not colony

[limpid agate]

Why would there be combat at a movie studio

Why would there be combat at a resort

Why would there be combat at an abandonned castle from 30 years ago

None of them make sense

Even the handwaved excuse they give for Eichenwalde or Hollywood dont make sense

[surreal bramble]

Your talking about the Brazil one?

[limpid agate]

No Ilios

[surreal bramble]

Ah

[vocal marsh]

Eichenwalde at least had combat at one point

[limpid agate]

30 years ago

Not the one we play in

[vocal marsh]

Ilios I never understood why it was a map to begin with

[limpid agate]

Here is why

They wanted to make a map in Greece

[vocal marsh]

And Hollywood at least gives some explanation on why

[limpid agate]

So they did

There is just as much reason to fight there as there is to fight on Rialto

[vocal marsh]

Rialto also hosted the events of Retribution

Ilios is just a random curveball

[limpid agate]

And Nepal

And Lijiang

And Paris

[vocal marsh]

I agree those make no sense

I just gave Ilios and Oasis as examples

Dorado/Gibraltar/Blizzard World/every control map don’t make sense

[limpid agate]

More maps than that make no sense

Youre looking at it too literally

The maps are just maps

The combat is non canon

[livid elbow]

was there any info on Torbjourn eating his molten magma like from one of his heighlights?

[peak escarp]

that's not canon

[worthy rose]

@peak escarp how did torb lose his arm again?

[limpid agate]

Brigitte 1: https://bit.ly/3cQok1E

[haughty warren]

Sigma: My friend, you are from around here, no?
Sombra: I used to be, yeah.
Sigma: But how could one's place of origin change?
Sombra: Let's hope you never know what I mean.
what does this mean

[limpid agate]

Here is where Torb lost his arm

[limpid agate]

Sombra erased her identity

[haughty warren]

oh rightt

[limpid agate]

@worthy rose Pinging since I noticed it was a while since you asked

[worthy rose]

Ok?

Thanks

[unkempt pagoda]

Hey where can I find videos that talk about lore/explain diffrent heroes

[arctic tide]

on the overwatch offical

YT

or just watch a recap video

prob better

[unkempt pagoda]

Ah makes sense

Thanks

[sharp trench]

I think Oasis does make sense

Lijang too

[peak escarp]

oh sorry - yeah, Taiga got it

[sharp trench]

they're both places of important intelligence and technological influence, would definitely want control over that

dorado and gibraltar can make sense too, blizzard world no not really

rialto probably not

[vocal marsh]

Rialto is the setting for Retribution

[sharp trench]

post-Retri nah

unless they want to go blast Talon again

[runic vale]

lore

[wary tartan]

winton 🦍

[round jasper]

Monke

[limpid agate]

No it isnt

Rialto, the payload map, is 7 years after Retribution

[prisma prairie]

how does mercy’s rez work in lore

[vocal marsh]

I meant the same location

Don’t take it so literally

[haughty warren]

are all overwatch members pro omnic

[worthy rose]

I doubt it

I'm sure some of them have at least some reservations about omnics

They just won't flat out say what their opinions are

Zarya is very outspoken on what her opinions on omnics are, being Russian that's hardly surprising.

[vocal marsh]

Junker Queen thinks of them as scrap

[worthy rose]

Yeah but she's not an overwatch member

[vocal marsh]

Ohhh I misread sry

[worthy rose]

No worries

[peak escarp]

for reference

[worthy rose]

Tracy is a gay character

We all know that

[peak escarp]

Tracer

and yes

[worthy rose]

#rename Tracer Tracy

[peak escarp]

no

[worthy rose]

Yes

[haughty warren]

zarya isnt overwatchis she

[worthy rose]

@peak escarp American POV: Mcree's name is now Clyde Barrow, and Ashe's name is now Bonnie Parker

No she is

[haughty warren]

i never knew this!

[worthy rose]

She joined much later then most heros tho

[haughty warren]

so with ramattra being null sector

does that mean hes enemies with everybody

[peak escarp]

everybody except Talon

[haughty warren]

also is zenyattas only like reason to be in the lore is that he helped genji with himself

[peak escarp]

pretty much

[haughty warren]

❤️

[worthy rose]

And Symmetra

[haughty warren]

what does zen have to do with sym

[shadow marsh]

And probably Ramattra next but I doubt it

[haughty warren]

also is sym only in the lore because of lucio

and lucio is only in the lore because uhhh

[peak escarp]

well, he's also a former member of the Shambali, which gives him ties to Ramattra, who was also a Shambali member (and they were close friends)

[worthy rose]

@peak escarp how does Blizzard keep track of the whole ow storyline, and avoid making obvious timeline discrepancies when they add a new hero lol

[haughty warren]

i think there are alot of discrepancies

already

[peak escarp]

the same way anyone keeps track of things

they write it down

[worthy rose]

Yeah but where tho

[haughty warren]

paper

[peak escarp]

they have an internal lore bible

every game studio has one

[worthy rose]

I bet they a room somewhere, lore stories all over the walls

[peak escarp]

it's probably a digital document

[haughty warren]

i dont know how in all the trailers bullets only hit reinhardt and winstons armor and never their fully exposed huge heads

[peak escarp]

plot armor

[haughty warren]

even when they get fired on by like 20 omnics or whatever

[worthy rose]

What the heck is going on I like men

[haughty warren]

its all just on the armor

[worthy rose]

Aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh

In the game the heros die but respawn, in the lore they are completely mortal

[haughty warren]

the game is just the game

did you knows know that its canon that the moon exists in overwatch

like you can see it in the sky and everything

[peak escarp]

why wouldn't the moon exist?

[worthy rose]

https://youtube.com/shorts/BUykFA7FCo4?feature=share

Click on like for good stuff

[haughty warren]

i said so

[worthy rose]

The real ow moon got blown up in the omnic crisis, when omnics invaded the moon, the one there now is a fake

Jk

[haughty warren]

on god

[peak escarp]

don't make things up

[worthy rose]

It's a joke

[haughty warren]

when the monkeys took over the moon base what happened to it when winston and hammon escaped

did it just blow up or something

[peak escarp]

this is a serious discussion channel

[worthy rose]

Cassidy is bad

[haughty warren]

imagine a whole overwatch movie with the animation that the shorts have

[prisma prairie]

zarya is part of overwatch?

thats a neat fact

[peak escarp]

she joined in issue 4 of New Blood

[sacred marsh]

Symmetra was influenced by Zenyatta is some way

[ruby lava]

Does genji and ana have any correlation i just saw a very confusing tiktok

[prisma prairie]

she learned the importance of the iris during a lore tablet with zen

[ivory garnet]

new overwatch agents are D.Va, Zarya, Bap and Pharah

[opaque scroll]

what

[dreamy epoch]

no

what

an idol is not a prostitute

[sullen raptor]

Theyre just overwatch agents with genji more as a..junior/intern and ana is senior rank

Newcomer

New recruit whichever u phrase it

[past copper]

Welp. I wanna play Ramattra even more now

It’s official, he’s gonna be a big game changer

Anyone who uses his Nemesis Form is going to be reminded of a character from Demon Slayer

That’s what makes me want Ramattra right now he seems like a great hero

[grim pawn]

orisa voice lines mirror ramattra's in some ways
i hope that they get to have some cool lore and interactions

orisa was a good doom foil but i think she'll be an even better ramattra foil

[split gorge]

im a Ramattra now

[neat fractal]

I wonder if zen helped genji as well as he did because he knows how it feels for your brother to go down a different path.

[limpid agate]

Thats a good theory

To add onto that

I wonder if Ramattra leaving and starting Null Sector is what inspired Zenyatta to leave

As he too believed that the Shambali was not doing enough to actually help people

[neat fractal]

Doubtful but possible.

[limpid agate]

But in a different direction

[neat fractal]

Also just like genji and hanzo. Ramattra and zen have similar ults

[grim pawn]

Yes, Zenyatta has disputed the idea that he's a pacifist before, so he might have left Shambali along that split

[neat fractal]

Also interesting aesthetic is zen has both harmony and discord whereas ram only has the discord orb

[surreal bramble]

But instead of healing rams damages

[neat fractal]

Yeah. Polar opposites to represent the path they have chosen.

[dreamy epoch]

I love how transcendence and annihilation are opposites of each other
technically not in lore but I think it's a cool detail

[past copper]

Bet Akaza was some slight inspiration for Ramattra’s punches

Punches powerful enough to launch shockwaves

[surreal bramble]

I see magneto and Charles as some inspiration for Ram and Zen

[somber light]

I LOVE SHIMADA LORE BRO

THESE BROTHERS MAKE ME SO SAD AND HAPPY AT THE SAME TIME

[neat fractal]

Does hanzo hate omincs? If not it would be interesting if he saw reasoning with ramattra. Would make it more heart breaking for genji though

I know he doesn't like how genji is a cyborg but that doesn't mean he hates omincs

[grim pawn]

I don't think we really know anything about Japan in the context of omnics

We seem to know very little about post-Crisis Japan considering there are 3 heroes from there lol

[past copper]

In Japan, they treat omnics as equals

As we see in Zarya’s comic

[grim pawn]

Ohh really? Let me go take a look at that again

[peak escarp]

there a couple omnics in Kiriko's gang

[grim pawn]

Seems like a little enthusiastic of an assessment, we don't see much of them in the comic
https://i.gyazo.com/71261567256256f2d945efb42df3440f.png

But yeah, I do get the feeling they're one of the better parts of the world for omnics

So I can't see why Hanzo would have an overt reason to dislike them

[peak escarp]

they shun her when she shows hatred towards the omnic

[past copper]

They were offended when Zarya insulted an omnic server

[neat fractal]

So hanzo and ram vs zen and genji could be a possibility in the future 🤔

[past copper]

They clearly treat omnics as equals if they were offended for how one was treated

Plus, seems Kiriko is no different

[peak escarp]

why would Rama team up with Hanzo?

[neat fractal]

I'm just thinking it would be cool really

[past copper]

Note that she didn’t kill the omnics with the Hashimoto

[neat fractal]

Ram doesn't mind working with humans as seen with DF as long as he can save his people

Hanzo might see that as honourable. You never know.

[peak escarp]

yeah but why Hanzo

he's a nobody

[past copper]

What does Hanzo have to do with Ram?

[neat fractal]

Again, just thinking Outload

[past copper]

Nothing in the least

[potent mesa]

I just realized rammatra and zenyatta have the same orbs such based like the lore

[neat fractal]

Just think the parallels is funny and amusing

[neat fractal]

On that nobody topic that could make him easy to manipulate. Talon clearly would love him to join

[past copper]

Well, sadly this isn’t G.I. Joe where Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow fight on opposing sides

[potent mesa]

B a l l

They should make rammarts throw B A L L S at his enemies

[ivory garnet]

Hanzo has 0 reason to team up with Ramattra. Ramattra has 0 clue who Hanzo is. Hanzo wont be teaming up with anybody until its something very decisive. Hanzo most likely wont be fighting his brother again

[dreamy epoch]

of all the people I'd say hanzo is least likely tbh

besides the junkers

I could see some cool voice line interactions about betrayal regarding brothers between the two

but in canon they're far apart

[grim pawn]

man, mercy's canon personality is quite different from her in-game one, or at the very least the latter does a very good job of hiding the former

i wonder if we will see more of canon mercy in the pve

[past copper]

Ramattra is going to be a tough tank in matches

Question is though just how meta is he gonna be?

[sour carbon]

Does be annoying for Winston count?

[past copper]

Though not all bad. Happy to have another counter to flying heroes now

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah because they are hard to hit!

[past copper]

I mean, it looked like he can actually penetrate barriers, but idk

Might’ve been a trick of the camera

Well, idk. Even if he actually can damage through barriers. I will bet that it won’t last long

[alpine pawn]

yeah and with echo now mercy almost always can fly lol

anyways lore here

[past copper]

Though. I’d think it be interesting to see him in action

Gives you an idea of how dangerous he is to be the leader of Null Sector and what you’d face if he’s a boss battle

[atomic geyser]

His punches can. it's wild.

[keen summit]

probs should talk in ow-s about the gameplay

[past copper]

Ramattra is definitely a scary tank, but just how scary we’ll have to see

Barrier like tanks, tho probably closer to Sigma’s based on placement capability

Defense and punches like Doomfist

An ability similar to Zarya or Orisa ult

[keen summit]

again

[past copper]

Frankly, he’s going to be a deadly new hero

[keen summit]

go to overwatch serious

you are still in lore

[limpid agate]

What I thought was interesting about the trailer was they had a consistent team of allies

Talon + Bastion

Trying to show what his allegiences were.

Omnics and Talon

They had to use Baptiste though, because Moira is the only Talon support

[past copper]

I don’t remember. Isn’t he the first hero with nanobots? Or that Mercy

[limpid agate]

Mercy has no nanobots

The short story literally has her getting annoyed when people say her tech is nanobots

[past copper]

Well, then I guess it was only a matter of time to have a hero who uses nanobots

Hmm. That would probably explain his abilities then. Bc I thought it was hardlight tech of sorts

[neat fractal]

Sadly didn't use zen as the 2nd support but I know that wouldn't make sense. Would have been nice to see them working together in the trailer.

[ivory garnet]

doubt they’re friends now in lore

Zen wants peace through all beings

whilst Ramattra wants to end all humans

[limpid agate]

Not exactly

[worthy rose]

Ram just wants a better world for omnics

[sly bramble]

This makes me think of the Final Stand-off. Doomfist vs Ramattra. "strongest humans left vs omnics" Kinda interesting how Doomfist uses the Chaos Ramattra weaves into being to find allies.

[worthy rose]

He doesn't want to kill all humans

[ivory garnet]

Talon is taking advantage of Null Sector, he’ll most likely end Ramattra once he gets what he wants

[sly bramble]

Him and who's army?

[worthy rose]

This is just conjecture, this isn't even remotely canon

[sly bramble]

Ahhh this fucking game needs an anime or something

[sly bramble]

yes. the fun of imagination

[worthy rose]

No it's just shitposting, this a lore channel not the shitposting channel

[sly bramble]

I don't really care. don't try too hard.

[worthy rose]

<@&397922982632226816>

!!Shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[limpid agate]

Dont ping mods. DM Modmail if you need mods.

[keen summit]

he legit wasnt though?

[sly bramble]

I'm not Shitposting though. I'm here for lore. you can't really dictate this.

I think you're just salty and it's past your bed-time.

[iron plume]

Enough

Your initial statement wasn't shitposting but your behavior afterwards certainly qualifies

so let's move on

[keen summit]

i think honestly its more like ramattra wants war to create a place for omnics while doom wants humanity to get stronger, how can humanity call themselves strong if they cant win against their own creations?

[sly bramble]

This is an interesting thought. I just Imagined the aftermath. Where would overwatch stand and such.

[ivory garnet]

Talon is subjectively more powerful than Null Sector…

[keen summit]

basically ramattra gets his place for omnics while doomfist gets the evolution of humanity

the loss? many lives

both noble goals, but blinded by wild ambition

two ambitious people with too much power, both with the mindset of ends justify the needs

[sly bramble]

I was under the impression that Ramattra wanted to kind of Wipe out all of man. Based on some things he says. Especially in the new game-play footage

[sly bramble]

powerful

[keen summit]

those are because he gets angered, he only wants to create a better future by finding a place, where they belong. as he said though humanity doesnt want to share their world. what do people do when others wont share? they take it

hes done asking

now hes taking it, now humanity either must rise up and win to evolve and the countries who fall, those were weak anyways and are now for omnics

basically both morals achieved

[past copper]

Didn’t recognize it before, but they showed off a bit of the new map too

[sly bramble]

Those who fall will be forgotten, those who rise up, their names will be remembered forever. true

[keen summit]

yep

df philosophy is simple yet understandable

[sly bramble]

very cool miner.

sorry for earlier :) I was genuinely curious.

[keen summit]

its tribal, its about conflict making you evolve just like in battle. afterall every fight teaches you new things

[sly bramble]

@worthy rose also sorry to you.

[keen summit]

we also honestly had many inventions during wartimes

doom just ignores the sacrifices

[past copper]

Still not sure what kinda map it is. But my guess is another control map like Nepal

Unless it’s a completely new one. But either way, happy to get a new map

Considering it’s coming with Ramattra, makes you wonder if it has lore significance

[sly bramble]

is the map announced yet?

[past copper]

No. It bit was just showed off at the end of Ramattra’s gameplay

But it looks like it could be another part of Nepal

Also, just throwing this out there, you think Ramattra’s hideout could be an abandoned Shambali temple?

[sly bramble]

Ohhhh! I see it

[keen summit]

would make thematic sense

[sly bramble]

I have strong doubts but.. it would be most interesting if it was. Considering the lore on Omnics and Finite. they wouldn't fight each-other.

[keen summit]

null sector being based in an abandoned shimbali temple

[past copper]

I mean, the guy still kinda sticks to the Shambali beliefs and seems like he’d wanna stay close to home

So what better place to hide then a Shambali temple? Nobody would even suspect to look there

[sly bramble]

would be interesting if he does

Stick to beliefs and such

I thought he just learned what he could. Tried to "Find peace". but instead "found rage". Uses what he learned and kinda of takes over.

[past copper]

Well, that would be my best guess, because why else would the new map be a Shambali temple?

Because it’s connected to him specifically

Now, hideout is my best guess, but the other possibility is that the temple was his home specifically

The place he trained under the Shambali

Either way, strong piece of Ramattra’s character

Also. I was wrong. Looking closer, I think it’s a push map. Should’ve known, but nothing to complain about

Just glad to get a new map. And one related to a hero too

That’s always fun for new voicelines from that specific hero

[dawn topaz]

Do Omnics have genders?

I'd say so

The problem is, what's the difference, other than different body types and voices

[past copper]

They identify as any gender they want. It’s their choice

[frozen crow]

Would y’all date an omnic

[past copper]

Hence Lynx Seventeen

[dawn topaz]

I mean yeah, but most female omnics are obviously built like females, with long hair and everything

[frozen crow]

I mean genders a spectrum lol

You can look feminine but not identify as a female

[dawn topaz]

Of course, but what I'm saying is that female omnics are drawn with more typical feminine attributes

less bulky

[frozen crow]

I mean omnics at that point we’re probably only around for a couple decades

They don’t have a built in hierarchy around gender roles the way we do

So they probably dont gaf

[dawn topaz]

Fair enough

I doubt they even have time to be sexist or anything like that

[frozen crow]

Fr haha

I mean it’s like 2055 as well

Atp I feel like most bigotry is a small minority

I mean soldiers gay brig is lesbian tracers lesbian all that good stuff

I’m sure nobody really cared tbh

[dawn topaz]

brig is lesbian?

Zamn

[frozen crow]

Yeah apparently

[past copper]

Where exactly is Brig said to be lesbian? Where are you getting your facts?

[dawn topaz]

Exactly

Stop reading fan comics

We all know that McHanzo isn't real

The true and canon ship is hanzo x genji

[past copper]

No it’s not. Now stop shitposting

[dawn topaz]

Anyways

looking at her quotes

the only thing that barely is relevant is tracer asking her if she's seeing anyone

Tracer: So what have you been up to? Seeing anyone?
Brigitte: Oh my gosh, Lena.
Tracer: Sooo... that's a no?
Brigitte: I'll... tell you later.

[past copper]

That doesn’t imply anything. Tracer is just teasing her

[dawn topaz]

exactly

[past copper]

Besides that. It’s obvious Brig isn’t seeing anyone

[dawn topaz]

Oh really?

[past copper]

All the traveling with Reinhardt and pretty much bury herself in her work when would she have time for that

[dawn topaz]

She could still very well have met a flamboyant someone

[past copper]

Doubtful. Again, no time for that.

[dawn topaz]

Welp, we'll just have to wait and see if it ever gets confirmed or not

[frozen crow]

I don’t fuckin know some brig player said it in my game yesterday

[past copper]

Highly doubtful. She and the rest of Overwatch have more important things to worry about

Like a global invasion by deadly robots

[dawn topaz]

I'm trying to imagine how all the Tracer x Widow shippers must've felt when Emily appeared

[past copper]

Then that isn’t proof of anything. That just a player with a wishful imagination

[dawn topaz]

"Junker Queen canonically stepped on me"

[frozen crow]

I mean idk why your so stressed about it lol

[past copper]

Because it’s misinformation

[frozen crow]

Bros blood sugar spiking

[frozen crow]

Misinformation about a fictional character? Go get some bitches bro 💀

[dawn topaz]

So what? Life without lies and trickery is boring

I love spreading misinformation

[frozen crow]

Exactly

For example

Did you guys know peanut butter actually gives you kidney stones?

[dawn topaz]

Or maybe I don't, and me saying that I enjoy doing it, in it of itself, is misinformation

[past copper]

@frozen crow @dawn topaz !!shitposting

[frozen crow]

!.getsomebitches.!

[past copper]

Shitposting!!

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[dawn topaz]

The minimodding is real

Anyways

Ashe

[past copper]

Not minimodding if people hate shitposting

Just bc you bored

[dawn topaz]

Shitposting and spreading misinformation are unrelated things

but whatever

[frozen crow]

What is minimizing

Modding

[snow coral]

ramatra lore

[molten shore]

Did torb upgrade bastion

Like give him a hat and other stuff

[peak escarp]

yes

[molten shore]

Or is that not cannon

Wait even his new ult and the one mini gun mode being different

Is that cannon?

[past copper]

Not sure if that’s confirmed yet

Aside from his turret mode, which looks new in a short behind the scenes

[peak escarp]

Torbjorn has made improvements to Bastion

[past copper]

Idk if we got a full look of Bastion in a scene where Rein attacked him

In a behind the scenes moment

Like don’t know if he had treads or not

No. He didn’t have treads

But they’ve no doubt retcon this while working on the story

[sly bramble]

is this in a vid?

[past copper]

Yes. A behind the scenes from a year ago

Also, who wants to try and guess what map this is?

Apparently it’s a city with ferries, but that could be anywhere I suppose

[molten shore]

What about Cassidys stun being replaced with a grenade is that Canon

[limpid agate]

That's Toronto

[past copper]

That doesn’t look like Toronto. Not unless Toronto has ferries

But that’s up to debate until we get the story

Actually, I guess it might be Toronto. But beyond what we see on New Queen Street

[limpid agate]

Toronto has ferries

Source: I live in Toronto

[modest granite]

Oasis. Big boats at one of the spawns. Maybe connected.

[sly kettle]

I dont think Rammatra killed Mercy in his gameplay trailer.. I think he did something else

[modest granite]

The only thing I took from the gameplay trailer was when he clocked kiriko.

[sly kettle]

I think he might've used his abilities to strap her down

in order to bring her back to his base

and use her healing knowledge to help his people

[modest granite]

True

Or like widows process into talon

Maybe make mercy turn on ow for a higher power

[sly kettle]

the widow process would make a pretty cool Mercy skin

[modest granite]

Fax

I would love her staff to 50 50 the damage intensifier and the heal at the same time.

Or maybe a better secondary

[sly kettle]

that would be an interesting ability

it would def be a good use to combat his ult

[modest granite]

True that.

[winged timber]

guys i think junkrat has huge balls

[paper shore]

oh

[worthy rose]

Omg yayy

[peak escarp]

it's just a gameplay trailer

it's not canon

and Mercy's healing wouldn't work on omnics

[vocal marsh]

At least cannonically

Imagine if omnics just couldn’t be healed

Sad OW2 bastion noises

And Orisa

She’d be horrible

But canonically Mercy can’t really rez people right?

[unkempt pagoda]

What is overwatch ?a group of heroes?

[alpine pawn]

no i dont think she can revive the death, unless shes secretly a nercomancer lol

[vocal marsh]

Originally, Overwatch lore wise was an international organization designed to help protect people

New Overwatch is similar, mainly with different members

[alpine pawn]

also the new ones technically ilegal lol

[vocal marsh]

Yeah

Bootleg Overwatch

[unkempt pagoda]

Who founded overwatch

Winston?

[vocal marsh]

Founding members were:
Jack Morrison/Soldier 76
Gabriel Reyes/Reaper
Ana Amari/Ana
Reinhardt Wilhelm/Reinhardt
Torbjorn Lindholm/Torbjorn
Mina Liao

[unkempt pagoda]

Ohh

Ty I'll copy paste

Appreciate it

[dense nebula]

Do we know how Ramattra’s Nemmy form works in lore?

Is it like locked until he reaches a certain anger threshold?

Cause if I was him I’d rock it at all times

[surreal bramble]

And sojourn

She was in the pic with Ana and jack

[vocal marsh]

I’m pretty sure there were 6 original members

She was an early recruit though I think

[surreal bramble]

And some unknown guy with a Mohawk

[past copper]

Sojourn wasn’t a founding member

Check her book

[vocal marsh]

She was recruited later, like Tracer, Cassidy, Genji, Moira, etc

[midnight sierra]

guys is soldier 76 gay

[trail lava]

yeah he had a boyfriend growing up

and he's a character in dream daddy for what its worth

[surreal bramble]

Yes he used to tounge down reaper before their falling out

[peak escarp]

!!shitposting @surreal bramble

[twilit nacelle]

@surreal bramble Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[full creek]

Why did you say that🤦🏻

No no no

Please

Spare me

[peak escarp]

Reaper is straight

[full creek]

Oh

[peak escarp]

he and Soldier never had a romantic relationship

Reyes was married to a woman and had a son

[full creek]

Do you understand how much the community would be different if soldier had an affair with reaper😱

What if reapers son becomes a character🥶

Like father like son. They would call him the mist baby

[peak escarp]

a lot of the community already thinks this

[full creek]

Actually???!!!

[peak escarp]

his son is a child, and doesn't have any wraith powers, since he was born before Reyes had them

[full creek]

How did he get them again I forgot

[peak escarp]

Moira experimented on him

[full creek]

Ohhhhh, now I remember

So did Moira do the experimenting under doomfist without him knowing or was this before doomfist was the “boss” of her?

[peak escarp]

this was when she was in Blackwatch

Reyes was her boss

[full creek]

😳

Oml

I’ve been mind blow once agian

[shadow marsh]

Heard that Talon has more power than Null Sector right now, do they?

[peak escarp]

Talon has influence in governments

[ivory garnet]

Null Sector could be subjectively called their own empire whilst Talon have sources with governments and have allies under their command

[surreal bramble]

Nothing but jokes

[full creek]

Ahh

[full creek]

Ok

[errant minnow]

Mf is that moira 😭 why does she look devious af, lookin like she finna do the dirty deeds

[weary rose]

blow

[full creek]

Mind

[weary rose]

Blow Mind 🧌

[worthy rose]

Do you not know Moira? That's literally her one character trait

[errant minnow]

No but I know she suck her opponents dry, because of her right click ability

😭

[worthy rose]

She is also Doomfist's wife

[weary rose]

[shadow marsh]

Is it still a mystery why Zen floats?

[grand wedge]

For now : yes

[haughty warren]

was moira ever in overwatch or did she just go right to blackwatch

[haughty warren]

"i owe my gifts to the iris"

80% of zenyatta is just complete mystery tbh]

[hardy marsh]

What is the iris?

[haughty warren]

sort of like uhhh

zenyattas god

ig

or like

just a sort of god that the shambali fellas worship

[hardy marsh]

And what does sigma mean with "we've met"

[haughty warren]

absolutely no idea

[grand wedge]

only Blackwatch

The Iris is a state of being that transcend the body - and where your mind become one with all the others. - in the Shambali faith

(kindof like the Nirvana?)

The concept of the Iris goes back to Aurora; the first omnic to achieve sentience. When she sacrificed herself, the Shambali believe that she transcended existence itself. The Shambali strive to reach this level of being which they refer to as "the Iris." The Shambali believe that all beings, both organic and mechanical, can achieve this higher state of being through the Iris, and that within it, all are one.

[grand wedge]

Either he heard things/saw things in his own mind... or he trully "met" the Iris, since his body and mind were ripped apart during his accident, so his "mind" basically transcended his body (even if it was not supposed to happen)

[haughty warren]

i dont think eh would remember seeing the iris while he was being mentally destroyed

[grand wedge]

He wasn't mentally destroyed?

[haughty warren]

i know im stupid man i should kil myself

he was just like

uhhhh

[grand wedge]

He was deemed unstable and dangerous, and locked away - and he could do almost whatever he wanted with his experiment while beeing unaware of where/when he was

[haughty warren]

imagine like if you were being robbed

[grand wedge]

he could totally have "met" there

[haughty warren]

theres alot of things that could happen

and its all fast

so you wouldnt remember much

[grand wedge]

but all the years after

he was being stabilized by Talon for years

[haughty warren]

so like he remembered years after the fact

[grand wedge]

doesn't mean he lost his hypothetical connexion to the Iris

i'm not sayingt he met the Iris when he had his accident - just that since his mind was kinda forced- trancended from his body, where time and whatever doesn't exist

could have been 1 second, could have been eternity, who knows

(also, remember this is entirely fictionnal so...)

[haughty warren]

Yea

[grand wedge]

i'm not looking too much into it, but if they toy with the idea of Sigma that had trully met "the Iris", and all the things this could implied, and not just "it's an old man fractured mind" forget he said anything, i'd like the first option better

[hardy marsh]

Or maybe he just said that to feel included, not knowing what an iris is

[grand wedge]

poor man x)

And he talk about the Iris about en entity/person - not the concept

[split granite]

Hello chat

I’ve been really inactive here recently my bad

It’s cool we finally get to see what ramattra looks like

Also now the theories of him using magic can be put to rest

[smoky pawn]

can someone explain the entire overwatch lore in a nutshell?

[rain shoal]

since Ramattra has a gravity based ability then it makes sense for one or more of his units to have gravity manipulation (the one we've seen in blizzconline)

[grand wedge]

Robot apocalypse 2

[graceful musk]

robot racism

[vocal marsh]

Overwatch created
6 founding members
More members recruited
Omnic Crisis
Overwatch helps deal with the omnic crisis
Blackwatch created for secret missions
Retribution (Archives)
Public finds out
Overwatch deleted
Everyone goes their separate ways
New Overwatch created (illegal)

And that’s ignoring a decent amount of events

[vocal marsh]

True, a black hole is a hole in space and time

[smoky pawn]

Thank you all

[smoky pawn]

What is overwatch a super hero origination?

[vocal marsh]

It was made to help protect people

It’s an international task force

They’re not superheroes per se

[opaque scroll]

also organization not origination

[past copper]

Technically, Ramattra I think is our first hero to use nanites

Though, wouldn’t it be something if that gravity ability was something added later

Using Sigma’s research

Hmm. Or is that a stretch?

[alpine pawn]

doesnt ana use nanos too? or is just the ult theme?

[past copper]

No. She uses a weaponized version of Mercy’s tech

[vocal marsh]

Ana’s is a liquid

Think alchemy