#lore-discussion

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past copper
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Otherwise, Orisa wouldn’t stand a chance on her own

worthy rose
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I personally liked ow1 orisa better but still yall have your own opinions, and you do bring up sum points

past copper
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I can already see Doomfist wants a round 3 with Orisa. This time one on one

noble pendant
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Doomfist prolly gonna get some upgrades to his arsenal lore wise

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Like expanding his organization

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Partnership with Null Sector

worthy rose
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Fair though you two bring up some really good points

past copper
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Eh maybe. I do think Ramattra would be interested in the likes of Bastion, Orisa, and Echo

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All of them machines that differ from anything he’s seen before

worthy rose
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True

noble pendant
past copper
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All of them were the same. Mindless weapons meant to kill humans

noble pendant
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And Null Sector presumably use the OR-15s

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There's an Orisa Skin

past copper
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Bastion is nothing like them anymore. It’s become unique. Special

worthy rose
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Honestly I got my first experience playing ow2 was at a family friend's house, and I don't really mind the rework to her

past copper
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And Ramattra will definitely notice this

worthy rose
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Just need to get used to it

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Perhaps

noble pendant
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So I dont think he'd be shocked

past copper
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And while Null Sector used Bastions and OR’s. Bastion and Orisa are different from the same mindless machines

worthy rose
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@noble pendant that's the short on Zero Hour? I watched that quite recently actually

noble pendant
noble pendant
worthy rose
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Huh, I'll watch it then

noble pendant
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It shows where she ended up at the end of Rise and Shine

past copper
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If that were the case, I doubt he’d build machines to fight and die for him

noble pendant
past copper
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He himself said omnics are a single generation. Which means any Omnics built after the crisis are basically just machines with one purpose

noble pendant
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What else is he gonna use as soldiers to fight the evil humans?

past copper
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That includes his Null Sector forces being mindless robots built to fight

noble pendant
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Where's the truth then?

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If all Bastion units are mindless

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And all ORs are mindless

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Built to fight

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Built after the first generation of robots

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Then how are Bastion and Orisa sapient?

drifting viper
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I think all bots have the capability to have consciousness

past copper
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Bastion was damaged in the crash. Clearly there was something that re-activated the AI side of Bastion

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I’d bet the God Program that reactive the factories could block out an AI part of machines

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We actually see that in Pharah’s comic

noble pendant
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So then the Omnics are one generation, being humanoid robots, but robots can also become sapient? So what stops a second generation from being made?

past copper
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And Orisa was built from an OR, who’s function was to be security robots. Which failed miserably

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Efi is the one who gave her an AI personality. Which she’s tweaked a couple times while building her

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Nobody really knows yet what stops them from having unique minds anymore. I don’t think

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But I’m willing to bet Ramattra has his own answers to that

worthy rose
noble pendant
noble pendant
undone shuttle
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I can't wait for the new hero to come out cause potentially it gives us some lore about Zen

past copper
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I mean… given how long Ramattra has been around, pretty sure he can give a lot of lore

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On the Shambali, Mondatta, Zen, the First Omnic Crisis and who knows what else

ivory garnet
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Bastion will fight against Ramattra

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he has already “presumably” joined Overwatch

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saying presumably because we dont know for sure. But we do know he works with Torb, Reinhardt, and Brig

worthy rose
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I found some clown on Yt who thinks Doomfist is stronger than Sigma

untold oxide
iron plume
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@untold oxide Take note of what channel this is

untold oxide
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Will do. Diden’t notis.

uneven hedge
keen summit
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in lore? cuz lots of people here think so haha

worthy rose
keen summit
ivory garnet
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in that case. Winston and Orisa are also stronger than Sigma CassidyLUL

worthy rose
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In terms of raw power I don't think any of the current roster can compare

keen summit
ivory garnet
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she is stronger than doomfist

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if she has been able to defeat him twice

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and he hasnt adapted

keen summit
ivory garnet
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eh yeah

keen summit
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just cause she can defeat him doesnt make her stronger, as doom could maybe win against alot of others while orisa might not

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shes strong and one of the strongest but just cause she can beat doom doesnt make her factually stronger

ivory garnet
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her moveset is also universal though, she can definitely defeat 95% of overwatch cast aswell

keen summit
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yeah shes insane, i just hate the argument of orisa is stronger cuz she can beat doom, she is stronger cuz well ahem everything else tho

ivory garnet
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yeah but thats also her biggest feat

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so people just use that as an argument

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Winston does beat her though

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she has no ways of countering him i dont think

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she also doesnt beat sigma ofc

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Doomfist will keep losing to her until he actually adapts to her

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as big of a strategist he is, he’s kinda lackluster in the field

keen summit
keen summit
ivory garnet
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theres definitely a way for him to beat her though

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she’s starting to become more adaptive to the human society aswell. He can probably make a distraction whilst doing something else

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idk tho, at somepoint i feel like he will beat her

ivory garnet
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Sombra would be a good help to help him tbf

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she could shut off one of her networks

keen summit
ivory garnet
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he has to get her to make a decision

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a big and heavy decision

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bc she still has a personality

keen summit
ivory garnet
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i mean like, save thousands of people, or something else

keen summit
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Destroy a building she'll go in to save people

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However she can take a doom punch like its nothing

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And we've seen what 1 punch can do

ivory garnet
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but can she take a doom punch if sombra messes with her hardware, thats the question

keen summit
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Thing is doom can beat her with help for sure

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But alone orisa is made to foght him, not everyone else

ivory garnet
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yeah

keen summit
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I imagine numbani being in conflict tho

ivory garnet
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they most likely will be in the omnic crisis 2

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due to Null Sector and Talon working together

keen summit
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Simple reason being, its tje coty where omnics and humans live together in harmony, but how will humanity react if null sector attacks everywhere

worthy rose
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Doom is stronger than Orisa in terms of abilities and feats

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Orisa was built to counter him

keen summit
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Orisa can just take anything

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Thats her thing

ivory garnet
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Orisa golden mode OP in lore tbf

keen summit
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She can stop a car by accident

worthy rose
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But she can be defeated

ivory garnet
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Sombra is her hard counter in lore imo

keen summit
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Orisa doesnt need to go gold to be able to stop stuff

worthy rose
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So "Golden mode" is actually permanent

ivory garnet
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Sombra was stated to hack the most “advanced security system” So i doubt Orisa will be an issue

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just a matter of time

keen summit
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Or14 could stop a rein charge quite easily and orisa is upgraded version of 15

ivory garnet
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Or14s also crushed a Crusader

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which is baffling

worthy rose
keen summit
keen summit
ivory garnet
worthy rose
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Bastion too

ivory garnet
worthy rose
ivory garnet
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Robots may be a different case for Sombra, but she could def pull it off given enough time

keen summit
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We know she can control controllable things

ivory garnet
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like the giant titan

keen summit
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Omnics in general are made to operate on their own

ivory garnet
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in Inflitration

keen summit
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Yea

ivory garnet
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infiltration*

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just matters how well Efi’s firewall is

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she is a kid genius after all

keen summit
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Ehhhh

ivory garnet
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but Sombra can give Doomfist the chance he needs if possible. Doubt Sombra will help him though

keen summit
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Thing is sombra in general doesnt hack omnics, if she could why didnt she just hack max and get all the details on what happened and show it to df

ivory garnet
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plot

keen summit
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Wouldnt have changed much honestly

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We really dont know what sombra can and cant hack, she says she can hack everything but ehhh

ivory garnet
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yeah

keen summit
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That can also just be her beong cocky

ivory garnet
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and if the security system was the most “advanced”

keen summit
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We know shes cocky

keen summit
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Unlike omnics who are autopilot basically or sapient

ivory garnet
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zarya would probably beat Orisa too

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idk tho

keen summit
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Ehhhhh

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Once more we dont know much bout zarya canon lore

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And fighting

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Shes physically strong

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Orisa is stronger tho

ivory garnet
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all we know is she is Russian’s greatest soldier, and now apart of Overwatch

keen summit
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Yeah but tbf bap is also in ow now

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Hes just a good shooter really

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Same with cass

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Orisa if you think about it is insane

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She stopped a bus by accident

ivory garnet
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Baptiste will help to figbt against Talon and is a field medic, so he’ll be working with Mercy

keen summit
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I know

ivory garnet
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Yeah Orisa is strong

keen summit
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Thinking about it actually

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There are only 3 supports in overwatch

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Bap mercy brig

ivory garnet
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yeah

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thats all they need tho

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Talon has 1?

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but we dont know if moira actually has healing mist

keen summit
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Yeah

ivory garnet
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so possibly 0

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I dont see Zen or Kiriko joining overwatch

keen summit
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She doesnt want her test subjects to die

ivory garnet
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Lucio has no need in overwatch

keen summit
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So think she does have it

ivory garnet
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eh maybe, never specified tho

keen summit
worthy rose
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Can Sombra hack sentient omnics like Zen?

ivory garnet
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not shown

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so no idea

keen summit
worthy rose
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Kiriko would probably join cos Genji

ivory garnet
ivory garnet
keen summit
ivory garnet
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she doesnt want those near her to get hurt

worthy rose
ivory garnet
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plus Kiriko finding out Genji is alive is a WHOLE different story

ivory garnet
keen summit
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She didnt give hanzo any character development wheb she was the first since release with connections with him

keen summit
ivory garnet
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probably because she tries to not remember

worthy rose
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She has that ingame line where she goes "Look mum, I'm an Overwatch agent"

keen summit
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Doesnt even mention anything to hanzo or genji

ivory garnet
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so

worthy rose
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She does have a few unique lines for Genji

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And I believe Genji has a unique line if he saves her

ivory garnet
keen summit
ivory garnet
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Alot of ex-overwatch know he’s alive due to newspaper

keen summit
ivory garnet
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and possible connections

worthy rose
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Genji solos most of the rosterAFrog

ivory garnet
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no

worthy rose
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YesAFrog

keen summit
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Ehhhh hes correct

ivory garnet
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he’s like the middle strongest imo

keen summit
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Most of the roster isnt that high power in lore

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Hes not upper echelons of power

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But defo not lower in power

ivory garnet
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Kiriko and Genji interaction in comics will go crazy

keen summit
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Honestly i see very few joining overwatch

keen summit
worthy rose
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He can't defeat Doom, Sigma, Orisa, Winston

keen summit
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They already messed up kiriko it would feel odd if suddenly shes like "wow you are alive!"

ivory garnet
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or Reaper, Sym, Zarya, and a few others

keen summit
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I just hope we'll finally get sum for hanzo

worthy rose
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Although I'd argue current Genji has a chance against Doom and very slightly against Winston if he doesn't go primal

keen summit
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Hanzo lore has been silent since dtagons

ivory garnet
worthy rose
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current

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The Genji we see in Zero Hour

ivory garnet
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only thing that has changed was mainly his emotions

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due to Zen

worthy rose
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That changes a lot

keen summit
worthy rose
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Yep one hit and he's done

ivory garnet
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it can change alot yes, but Doom is still massively stronger than him still

worthy rose
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But it's the same with Dragon blade for Doom

keen summit
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Doom could predict his movenent

ivory garnet
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can Genji get a few cuts in doom? possibly. But he def can not win

alpine meadow
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I cant wait to see rammatra and zen interactions

worthy rose
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Doom didn't really predict his movement

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He had to catch him off guard with his blade not ready for him

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He did a good job at controlling the fight

ivory garnet
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threw a car to where he was going and predicted he was goingto cut through it instead of jump off of it is very predicting

worthy rose
ivory garnet
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i mean shit, one punch from him messed up his cybernetics

worthy rose
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Dude's naked ffs

keen summit
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thats the only opening he needed

ivory garnet
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he’s like 35% skin now

worthy rose
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Oh and 50% clothing

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Should protect him

ivory garnet
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we talking abt doom or genji

worthy rose
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Doom

ivory garnet
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oh yeah

worthy rose
ivory garnet
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he’s like 65% skin then

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arm is massively enhanced

worthy rose
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Genji has no skin uncovered

ivory garnet
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if you look at his blackwatch skin, all that muscle and skin is still there present say

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day

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so thats the only part of his actual body

worthy rose
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I said Doom is naked, not that he doesn't have skin

ivory garnet
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crazy that Hanzo messed him up THAT badly 😭

ivory garnet
worthy rose
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Devs confirmed his lower body is intact

ivory garnet
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maybe his thighs are

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but his knees and down arent

keen summit
worthy rose
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How do you know?

ivory garnet
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blackwatch skin

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his knees and down are robotic

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his right* forearm and down are robotic

keen summit
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doom can predict genji tho which makes it hard for genji

worthy rose
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K tru

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I'd say Genji has come a long way since their fight in the origin trailer

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Enough to give him the tactical skill and discipline to hold a torch to Doomfist

ivory garnet
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possibly, i mean deflecting a blasts are probably the size of a telephone box is no small feat

worthy rose
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Funny tho

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He'd get shit on by Reaper

ivory garnet
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very badly too

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Reaper is my 8th strongest

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imo

worthy rose
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Genji can't hurt Reaper in a way that matters

ivory garnet
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he has incredible potential too looking at it at a scientific point

worthy rose
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Genji diffs every support

ivory garnet
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besides zen

worthy rose
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Nah

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Zen too

ivory garnet
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stated he couldnt beat zen CassidyLUL

worthy rose
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Being humble

ivory garnet
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ironic how he is protecting zen from widow and sombra in the new PvE too

worthy rose
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How is it ironic?

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He's his master

ivory garnet
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ik, but its funny he says that and goes for a 2 v 1

worthy rose
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Genji diffs Widow

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But probably gets hacked by Sombra

random umbra
ivory garnet
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sombra gets a chance if she can disable his legs

worthy rose
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Unless he has good antivirus

ivory garnet
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its just cybernetics tbh, would probably be easier than Russia’s security system

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because its not controlled anywhere besides the neurolink with Genji

worthy rose
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Sad

ivory garnet
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anyways, Ima head to bed. Have a good day/night. Nice talkin wit ya CassidyHowdy

worthy rose
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You too

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Gn

white mica
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Hanzo with a sword beats genji

random umbra
worthy rose
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Current Genji, lol no

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Current Genji diffs Hanzo and his mum

random umbra
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Arent they brothers?

worthy rose
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Yes

white mica
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Didn’t hanzo say that he was far greater with the sword than the bow

worthy rose
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Yes

random umbra
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Im afraid soldier 76 clears both

worthy rose
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Genji?

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Nah

split granite
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Lore enthusiasts hello

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What we talking about?

worthy rose
white mica
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Orisa sweeps all of them

worthy rose
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Yes

split granite
split granite
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Tough because their skills are so different you’d think it’d be genji but you’ve gotta consider all of soldiers abilities

white mica
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I mean soldier has that auto aim so maybe

worthy rose
split granite
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Genji is a lot quicker though and from what we can tell soldier can’t just use it whenever

random umbra
split granite
random umbra
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😭

worthy rose
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Deflect has entered the chat

split granite
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Yeah we can’t really say they’re just too different to compare

white mica
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But are the bullets deflected by genji olso auto aim

worthy rose
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On who

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Genji?

random umbra
worthy rose
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Genji wins a 1v1

split granite
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If I HAD to pick though yeah I’d say genji

random umbra
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I guess

split granite
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Btw what is everyone’s thoughts on doomfists strength?

white mica
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I mean

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He is strong definitely

split granite
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People here before have said he’s not that strong but I really disagree

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Without the gauntlet he can punch through a wall

white mica
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He is underrated

split granite
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And when that kid used the gauntlet in the original cinematic it created a massive shockwave
And he was scrawny and never used the gauntlet before

rare sinew
split granite
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Also not to mention they literally say in that cinematic “he can level a skyscraper”

white mica
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People think he is weak because he got defeated by orisa

split granite
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Yeah but it’s more just the fact orisa is ridiculously strong

white mica
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Yea but people don’t realize that

worthy rose
split granite
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Absolutely

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If not the strongest playable hero?

worthy rose
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No

split granite
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Who else

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Oh sigma

worthy rose
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Sigma

split granite
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I forgot

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Yeah I forgot about him

worthy rose
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Bruh

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Ur fkn pfp

split granite
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It’s because he hasn’t done anything in lore so I wasn’t thinking about him

rare sinew
worthy rose
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Sombra kinda cute ngl

rare sinew
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facts

rare sinew
worthy rose
rare sinew
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😭 i just said

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hero of numbani

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book about orisa

worthy rose
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She hacked Orisa?

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Wait

rare sinew
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not orisa, two other normal omnics

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human-like ones

worthy rose
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Oh

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They were sentient?

rare sinew
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yeah, workers

worthy rose
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That's not sentient...

rare sinew
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efi helped one of them to regain control

rare sinew
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they're sentient, self-aware

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and sombra still had full control over them

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read the book, sombra appeared multiple times in it

worthy rose
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Not all omnics are sentient

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By sentient I mean the ones that were granted complete sentience by Aurora

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Orisa and Echo are not sentient

rare sinew
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like those that were shown in widow's animated short

rare sinew
cloud harness
iron plume
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sapient

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and both orisa and echo seem to be

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Aurora isn’t the only source, if she is one in the first place

iron plume
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and though it may change with future updates, currently as far as we know “God AI” is just the colloquial term for Anubis

cloud harness
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Cool, thanks for the info

gleaming notch
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Isnt symettra very op

drifting viper
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she is very annoying

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but in the lore idk if shes op or not

vagrant nymph
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I just learned symmetra was autistic

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I used to main her

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Ill keep going

worthy rose
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She's autistic but on the high functioning part of the spectrum

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I've seen peope irl who aren't, they literally can't even speak, they, really only feel two emotions, happiness or, anger.
They just can't help but express it in a disruptive way

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Makes you feel really bad about those on the low functioning end of the spectrum

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Those on the high functioning end tend to be very creative.
Sym is very gifted in my opinion

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Sym is waifu

ivory garnet
atomic pier
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One of my favourite pieces of dialogue from Mercy in her Origin Story:

The truth is that in their time of need, people still expect us to come to their aid, even as they curse us. I didn’t become a doctor to be thanked.

rotund ermine
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sym is actually autistic?

worn bear
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Ye

untold plinth
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maybe that's why I'm good at sym

rotund ermine
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lmfaoi

worthy rose
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I'm on the spectrum too, Sym and Torb are my two dps mains

split granite
worthy rose
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Ye

split granite
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Sym underappreciated in lore and in game

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Oh

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I thought you were asking why oops

worthy rose
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I enjoy Sym

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I can relate to her

shadow marsh
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Echo in lore can replicate, yeah? Was troubled by the fact that some of the heroes' abilities in-game aren't canon in lore like Zenyatta's ult

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In fact

surreal bramble
shadow marsh
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What else isn't canon in lore

split granite
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If any mods are online just ask them for it

surreal bramble
ivory garnet
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this

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is the canon abilities list

peak escarp
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it's unlikely that she can

shadow marsh
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My thoughts as well exactly

cunning ledge
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there are some that would be silly if they aren't canon like rip-tire

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but we can't just go assuming

worthy rose
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Hi

cunning ledge
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it's kind of up to interpretation if references to it on maps count

peak escarp
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some aren't confirmed but are plausible

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some are confirmed but work differently

cunning ledge
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rip-tire is totally referenced on junkertown right

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eh doesn't really matter

peak escarp
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he has it on his back in Going Legit

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so the tire itself exists

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we just haven't seen him use it

cunning ledge
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if it works in any other way than "it rolls on the ground until it reaches the target then explodes" i will be shocked

peak escarp
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in a straight line

cunning ledge
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even in the game they don't even pretend he's controlling it, that's just a gameplay contrivance

peak escarp
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I doubt it's radio controlled

cunning ledge
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doesn't he just crouch down covering his ears like in a cartoon

peak escarp
cunning ledge
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junkrat is already comical enough that i could easily believe that he could make the tire move in a pattern other than a straight line

rotund ermine
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it could just have a form of homing device inside that tracks a moving target or heat signature*

mystic talon
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Nah he just controls it with his mind

mild crow
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guys what if widow maker was a spider

granite blaze
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She'd be spider maker

ivory garnet
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naw she is scared of them

granite blaze
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you'd be spider main

ivory garnet
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real

fallen wadi
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When are Mercy and Genji officially gonna go out?

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WE NEED THE DATE

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in both senses of the word

keen summit
ivory garnet
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they are the only ones with valentines voice lines

fallen wadi
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Wait for real

ivory garnet
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yeah

fallen wadi
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OMG I NEED A GIRLFRIEND THAT CAN PLAY MERCY SO I CAN HEAR THE VOICELINES

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I'm so lonely ;-;

rose dagger
fallen wadi
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Well it's not like I'm gonna get a female friend is it

rose dagger
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do it with the homies instead sunglas

fallen wadi
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Nah man

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I need the relationship to be in the game and in real life

ivory garnet
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Mercy
“I got you some chocolates, Genji. Swiss, they’re the best.”
Genji
“Thank you, Angela. Perhaps you could share them with me?”

fallen wadi
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Awwwwwwwww

ivory garnet
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Genji
“Angela, I have some chocolates for you… not Swiss.”
Mercy
Sigh “I suppose it will have to do. Thank you, Genji.”

fallen wadi
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Did u hear the voiceline abt Mercy between Genji and Tracer?

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That's even more cute

ivory garnet
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i have not

fallen wadi
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Uhm

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Basicly

ivory garnet
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rarely get in a game as tracer with genji

fallen wadi
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Tracer is likr

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U hanging out with Angela a lot

rose dagger
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also

fallen wadi
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Genji says that he stays up late like her and is the only one that can drink her coffe

ivory garnet
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oh yeah

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ive heard that

fallen wadi
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It's so cute

rose dagger
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whats the thing about brigitte's poetry book

fallen wadi
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We need Blizz to actually make it official

fallen wadi
ivory garnet
fallen wadi
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Wait I'll be back I gotta do school shit

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Stoobid Socialstudies project

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Bye!!!!!!

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Was fun talking to u guys 🙂

rose dagger
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the fact that sombra hacked into it then she gets embarrassed makes me wonder whats in it

fallen wadi
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Sombra × Brig fan fics

ivory garnet
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this?

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Tracer: So what have you been up to? Seeing anyone?
Brigitte: Oh my gosh, Lena.
Tracer: Sooo... that's a no?
Brigitte: I'll... tell you later.

fallen wadi
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Damn

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That's deep

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Brig is stealing Emily from Lena

ivory garnet
#

age gap😧

fallen wadi
#

So

ivory garnet
#

it isnt that big nvm

keen summit
fallen wadi
#

We don't know Emily's exact age do we?

rose dagger
fallen wadi
#

It's possible

ivory garnet
fallen wadi
#

Or someone sombra knows

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That's more likely

keen summit
#

Or a person outside of it all

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Sombra knows everyone

fallen wadi
#

Good point

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I'll talk to u guys in a couple of hours

ivory garnet
#

Genji: This reminds me of our time on base in Switzerland.
Mercy: You were the only one who stayed up so late. I enjoyed our conversations.

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cute interaction

rose dagger
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Sombra: There's no easy way to say this: I read your poetry folder
Brigitte: What? I... you had no right!
Sombra: Don't yell at me. We're both victims here.

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yes I typed it

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no copy paste

ivory garnet
#

Sombra has info on basically everyone, shown in her origin story

rose dagger
#

but what did she see that made her say that last line

ivory garnet
#

for mine or urs

rose dagger
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the sombra one

ivory garnet
#

probably felt second hand embarrassment

keen summit
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like when you see certain stuff that someone made when they were 14, you are in pain

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nothing romantic etc in it

fallen wadi
fallen wadi
#

Anyone here?

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What's a bigger ship

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Mercy and Genji

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Or D'va and Lúcio

inner atlas
#

dva and genji

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mercy and lucio

ruby ocean
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The addition of junker queen felt random but she was literally in Hammond origin story

fallen wadi
#

Just no

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Age difference

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And mercy and genji is basicly confirmed

#

But Lucio × DVa is also cute

worthy rose
#

-> Junker Queen x Mercy

desert yacht
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if he was like 23 or younger I’d be fine with it

hazy crow
worthy rose
#

Yes

hazy crow
#

Nah

worthy rose
#

Big wooman smol wooman

hazy crow
#

I find the ship.. weird.

worthy rose
#

Uncultured

tame marsh
#

from a lore stand point soldier 76 is from merca

fallen wadi
#

But

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We knew that

last yarrow
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Shut the fuck up

#

Please

fallen wadi
#

Make me

uneven isle
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i dont think they were talking to you. there was someone who put i think a scam link and the message got deleted

fallen wadi
#

Oh

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But my point still stands

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make me

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its the best argument if u ever need one

molten shore
#

Is there any Filipino overwatch characters?

ivory garnet
ivory garnet
tame marsh
tame marsh
ivory garnet
#

mhm

tame marsh
#

good talk👍

molten shore
fallen wadi
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One sec i got a game

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Genji or Cassidy u guys descide

ivory garnet
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never was, age gap is huge and they only teased eachother

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cass

fallen wadi
#

Oh

surreal bramble
fallen wadi
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Aight

surreal bramble
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So you’ll lose

fallen wadi
#

NOW IM CONFLICTED

ivory garnet
#

cassidy betta

fallen wadi
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Ill go cass

surreal bramble
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Smh

fallen wadi
#

ive gotten 2 plays so far

tame marsh
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cass and bastion

fallen wadi
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in 4 games on

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ill go cass and if i win ill go genji

molten shore
fallen wadi
#

Nah man

molten shore
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Yah man

fallen wadi
#

93% allready xD

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ez play

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i think

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FUCK

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i got 4 tho

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nvm Soldier pressed POTG button

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We won so its genji time

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backfill obv

elder wasp
#

!!loreonly

twilit nacelleBOT
#

This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

inner atlas
fallen wadi
#

It is

worthy rose
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When will lucio kiss

#

Me

velvet nacelle
#

Lucio x dva makes only in a ship in a generic level

worthy rose
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Lucio x swig makes a amazing couple

velvet nacelle
#

Genji and mercy makes more sense cause they have interacted. Which is the first base to cross when shipping

velvet nacelle
peak escarp
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most popular ships don't even meet that threshold

velvet nacelle
#

Which is?

peak escarp
#

having met in canon

velvet nacelle
#

I meant which is as in which ships but ye

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Mercy and genji makes sense

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Ashe and mccree

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I don't remember any other big ones?

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Anyway

peak escarp
#

Cassidy and Hanzo

velvet nacelle
#

True

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I guess the similar thing is that they're both old criminals

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And tracer and widow cause guys like them for reasons that won't delete my message and the bot will warn me

chrome ruin
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⛹️

worldly hawk
worldly hawk
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Haha I still love that interaction

peak escarp
#

they've never actually met, and all their in-game interactions aren't very positive

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Hanzo is kinda rude

fallen wadi
worldly hawk
#

It's cute but that will never happen

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Well just a miracle lol

worldly hawk
velvet nacelle
#

What's the new lore in the second game btw

peak escarp
#

Null Sector and Talon are starting a war against humanity, Overwatch is back to stop them

velvet nacelle
#

Didn't that happen in the previous game?

peak escarp
#

no

velvet nacelle
#

Aight

ivory garnet
alpine pawn
#

she was brainwashed, and is

#

even if that wears off she probably end with serius self trust issues

iron plume
#

her conditioning isn't the same as brainwashing

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but either way she's unlikely to get the hots for someone

worldly hawk
ivory garnet
#

she’s too big of an asset for Talon to lose

worldly hawk
#

Hey I have a question idk if someone notice.
In the last blizzcon they were talking about overwatch 2 news and everything. They said that they were doing a Sojourn cinematic ( I not very sure about it)
And she was with Murphy and 2 cups of coffee, one for her and for who was the other one??

surreal bramble
worldly hawk
#

For her twin sister?

ivory garnet
ivory garnet
worldly hawk
ivory garnet
#

he shouldve stepped up once his father died, then the Genji stuff wouldnt have happened

#

sometime next season we might be seeing the prices for PvE missions

alpine pawn
#

but his life decisions were like the most fuck everyone close to me possible

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like he asked himself how do i neither uphold the family not my dear brothers life and did it

fallen wadi
#

What are we thinking on Zen x Ramattra voicelines?

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Cuz Ram went to nepal according to the trailer

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at least thats what i understood

alpine pawn
#

he used to be a shambali

fallen wadi
#

(idk what that mean)

#

but what are our thoughts on zen and ram vc

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and even genji and ram seeming as he went too nepal aswell

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Theres gonna be orisa and ram vcs

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maybe even bastion and ram

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cuz hes trying to get all omnics on his side right?

drifting viper
#

he probably just argues with each of them while they both try to convince the other

fallen wadi
#

Yea

#

Maybe when Maximillian comes theyll have a voiceline

#

Maybe even Doom and Ram but thats a really long shot

drifting viper
#

doom and ramattra are like allies

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kinda

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or they atleast made an agreement

#

So i think theyll have a voice line together

fallen wadi
#

Yea

#

I hope Thiccness herself doesnt have a voiceline with ram

ivory garnet
#

wrong person

ivory garnet
#

its where the “Iris” comes from

peak escarp
#

the Shambali is the religious order that Zenyatta was a member of

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they seek unity between humans and omnics, and believe that unity can be achieved through the Iris, which is a state of higher being (like Nirvana)

fallen wadi
#

Oh

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I thought is the religion itself

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I knew what the iris is tho

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im proud

fallen wadi
peak escarp
#

the Buddhist Nirvana

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not the grunge band

fallen wadi
#

(Smells like teen spirit starts playing but in stead of the actual lines its just DEATH IS WHIMSICAL TODAY)

worthy rose
#

Teens are overrated, they think they know everything and just run around doing whatever they please and causing chaos.

fallen wadi
#

My mate

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im 15

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I dont know shit

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I hate chaos i have OCD

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and im lazy

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i dont run

worthy rose
#

Ok not all teens

fallen wadi
#

🙂

worthy rose
#

Just 85% of them

iron plume
#

alright let's move past that topic now

fallen wadi
#

But u do have a point

worthy rose
#

Ok

fallen wadi
#

hello perti mezjisiun

iron plume
#

don't do that

fallen wadi
#

Oh

#

hi tho

worthy rose
#

banjo starts to play

#

I wanna read Cree lore rn

fallen wadi
#

Okie

#

Yea I forgot that there were comics

old sun
#

I’m tired of this whole “sigma is the strongest character”

peak escarp
#

well, he is

worthy rose
#

monkey semans

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is a thing?

limpid agate
#

As it is, the strongest hero is one of Winston, Sigma, Symmetra, or Orisa

#

Ramattra is also an unknown

dusky zealot
limpid agate
#

I dont understand the question

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There isnt an official power ranking

old sun
limpid agate
#

He's not a contender

old sun
#

I mean he’s the leader of Talon who literally said as cannon that he can kill Sigma and sees him as “easily disposable”

#

How tho?

limpid agate
#

... Where is the "Easily Disposable" line from

peak escarp
#

where did he say he could kill Sigma?

limpid agate
#

It sounds like you're either making stuff up, or you're getting your information from someone who made it up

old sun
#

I’ll have to look for it

peak escarp
#

also Doomfist was defeated by Winston and forced to retreat by Orisa, so even if Sigma isn't the strongest, there are heroes other than Doomfist who are stronger

old sun
peak escarp
#

don't get your lore from tiktok

old sun
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Everything except doomfist saying Sigma is stronger is linked for his argument so I’m starting to suspect you’re right and I’ve been hoodwinked

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Also why Sym?

limpid agate
#

She has powerful reality breaking prowess with Hard Light that we dont know the limits of

peak escarp
#

Symmetra is the most speculative entry on that list

limpid agate
#

Sigma is too

#

Its why the key word is "contenders"

old sun
#

So question what makes sigma’s black hole so broken, while Zarya’s isn’t?

limpid agate
#

Zarya doesnt have a black hole

old sun
#

What’s her ult then?

limpid agate
#

Graviton

old sun
#

So that’s… not a black hole?

limpid agate
#

No

old sun
#

What is it then?

limpid agate
#

... A graviton

peak escarp
#

it's a cluster of gravitons, which are incredibly dense particles

old sun
#

Isn’t that just a black hole?

limpid agate
#

No

peak escarp
#

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graviton

Graviton

In theories of quantum gravity, the graviton is the hypothetical quantum of gravity, an elementary particle that mediates the force of gravitational interaction. There is no complete quantum field theory of gravitons due to an outstanding mathematical problem with renormalization in general relativity. In string theory, believed by some to be a ...

old sun
#

What’s a black hole then if not a incredibly dense state of matter?

peak escarp
#

for us it's a hypothetical particle, in Overwatch it's real

limpid agate
#

A black hole is not a state of matter or a particle

old sun
#

Ooo ok got it

old sun
#

Dying starts turn into black holes

worthy rose
#

Think of a black hole as a well in space

limpid agate
#

A state of matter is like

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Solid

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Liquid

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Plasma

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A black hole is not a liquid

worthy rose
#

But it's so massive it's pulling everything around it into it

old sun
#

No it’s a state of matter

worthy rose
#

No it isn't

old sun
#

“Rather, it is a great amount of matter packed into a very small area - think of a star ten times more massive than the Sun squeezed into a sphere approximately the diameter of New York City. “

#

“The idea of an object in space so massive and dense that light could not escape it has been around for centuries. Most famously, black holes were predicted by Einstein's theory of general relativity”

worthy rose
#

Yes it's matter, but it's not a state of matter

old sun
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Ooo you thought I meant

#

Got it

worthy rose
#

I'm not gonna argue this, I got better things to do.

old sun
#

I mean it’s a solid is it not?

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No it’s not.

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It’s a liquid

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Specifically a non-Newtonian liquid

#

Which I’m not going to pretend like I know what that means

#

But I was right

#

It is in a state of matter

limpid agate
#

Non Newtonion fluid, not liquid

old sun
#

“the matter inside a black hole would be a non Newtonian liquid of subatomic particles”

#

The matter is a liquid

limpid agate
#

The matter inside a cup of water is also a liquid

#

Either way this is veering off topic

#

Zarya's ultimate is not a black hole

#

If it was, Sombra would have been torn apart in Searching

#

Alongside the rest of Dorado

old sun
#

Got it understood

#

So how powerful exactly do you think Sigma can get

limpid agate
#

We dont know. That's why he and Symmetra are contenders

#

Theoretically, they can be stronger than Orisa and Winston

#

Theoretically, they also can be weaker

old sun
#

Or do you think he’s kinda permanently nurfed by his shattered mental state and inability to master his powers

old sun
limpid agate
#

He doesnt have an inability to do that

old sun
limpid agate
#

no

old sun
#

When did he master it?

limpid agate
#

I didnt say he did

old sun
#

Ooo he just can master it

#

He’s not blocked from it

#

Ok I understand what you’re saying

#

Sorry I’m a little tired.

#

Thanks for the conversation

ivory garnet
#

gravity is a harness

velvet nacelle
#

I have harnessed the harness

dense nebula
#

EM ESAELER

worthy rose
#

Violence

fallen wadi
#

So we went from lore to how black holes work?

#

i didnt need another phisics lesson

peak escarp
#

this channel often goes off on tangents like that

fallen wadi
#

Yea xD

#

But hey

#

I learned what a graviton is

full creek
fallen wadi
worthy rose
#

@wanton sorrel so you Shitposting?

ivory garnet
worthy rose
#

!!lorelist

twilit nacelleBOT
# 
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loreNewest -> The newest piece of lore

loreComics -> List of comics
LondonCalling -> List of London Calling issues
NewBlood -> List of New Blood issues

loreShorts -> List of shorts
loreOrigin -> List of origin trailers
loreVideo -> List of other lore videos

loreText -> List of lore text articles
loreBooks -> List of full length stories and novels
loreTweets -> List of lore related Twitter teasers

loreHeroes [heroName] -> List of hero bios [Or a specific hero bio]
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loreOnly [userName] -> A warning so you don't NEED to ping staff
marble lodge
#

Who do you all feel that tracer is gay

peak escarp
#

what

marble lodge
#

She’s gay

worthy rose
#

She's British, I'm hardly surprised nor do I care

peak escarp
#

yes

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you question didn't make any sense

worthy rose
#

92% of British people these days either Bi or straight up Gay I swear

peak escarp
#

...

worthy rose
#

I mean if you want proof, I could look up some statistics

peak escarp
#

An estimated 2.7% of the UK population aged 16 years and over identified as lesbian, gay or bisexual (LGB) in 2019, an increase from 2.2% in 2018.

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not even close

worthy rose
#

Making solider gay didn't make any sense to me tho

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Huh

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Well 1/2 British people I meet usually Bi

#

And I've met alot of them over the years

peak escarp
#

okay

worthy rose
#

@peak escarp where you get that statistic?

peak escarp
worthy rose
#

Okay if it's from a government website I'd trust it

#

Doesn't make sense to me tho, considering how many gay or bi British people I seem to cross paths with.

peak escarp
#

government statistics have nothing to do with Tracer being gay

worthy rose
#

And I'm straight

#

Still she's gay, enough of this topic.

#

!!loreheros mei

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!!lore heros mei

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!!lore heros Mei

peak escarp
#

!!loreHeroes Mei

twilit nacelleBOT
worthy rose
#

Ah

peak escarp
#

except those links don't work anymore

worthy rose
#

Thanks

peak escarp
#

because the bio pages got remade

ivory garnet
worthy rose
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For ow2

ivory garnet
#

and its showing no matter what you are, you can always be strong enough

worthy rose
#

The US military downplays gay or bi military personnel tho, they don't like it

peak escarp
#

that doesn't matter

ivory garnet
#

i dont recall that, but even if they do, its just giving more to a community and representing themes

worthy rose
#

Nah

ivory garnet
#

no

#

but that isnt the point

#

real world politics ≠ ow themes

worthy rose
#

True

ivory garnet
#

and they did his situation really well

worthy rose
#

I just wanna figure out these commands

peak escarp
#

use #bot-commands if you're going to be using them a lot

#

they are case sensitive

worthy rose
#

Uh

#

Ok

ivory garnet
#

you think we can expect some sort of cinematic sometime in s2?

peak escarp
#

possibly

#

there's still a Sojourn short on the way

ivory garnet
#

yeah, and a possible origin story for any charaxter that doesnt have one

#

they should give Zen one as it would fit the narrative for Ramattra

rare sinew
peak escarp
#

possibly

rare sinew
#

i can imagine them ending it with a cliffhanger and then continuing it in pve giving it a start

peak escarp
#

well, we know there's a mission in Toronto, and in the short, Sojourn is at her home in Toronto...

rare sinew
#

yup my thoughts exactly

#

null sector attacks, go buy our game to see what happens next

supple river
#

Lore-wise, is Doom one of the strongest known characters?

desert yacht
#

clear cut top 5

#

Winston is likely above him bc of their prior showdown as many gripes as I have about that and sym and sigma have so much potential that they’re in the argument for being above him

#

nvm top 5 since orisa

#

although you could argue that she’s just built to counter him and he’s stronger overall you can’t count her out

#

my honorable mentions go to reaper and maybe dva, though I wouldn’t be surprised if they toned back her power scaling with her joining overwatch

gentle obsidian
split granite
#

Everybody I bring to you the worst take I’ve seen on discord so far

worthy rose
drifting viper
split granite
limpid agate
#

!!shitposting

twilit nacelleBOT
#

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

supple river
#

Wait did Moiras experiment on reaper render him basically immortal?

peak escarp
#

somewhat

#

we don't know his limits

ivory garnet
dense nebula
#

He’s barely out of the top 5

#

If Orisa didn’t exist he’d be in the top 5

#

But he still gets beat out by Sigma, Symmetra, and Winston

#

I always forget who else is in the top 5 besides Sigma, Symmetra Winston and Orisa

worthy rose
#

#Shitposting

sand barn
#

Symmetra?

#

How's she in the top5

ivory garnet
#

hardlight and having she is really good at it

#

she is easily in top 5

#

its possible you can replace her with Reaper tho

ivory garnet
supple river
# ivory garnet not at all

But he punched his way out of prison with bare hands, wouldn't he be like one the strongest humans alive

static karma
#

Is ramattra friends with zenyatta?

ivory garnet
#

one of the strongest humans sure

#

not strongest person

ivory garnet
static karma
#

This makes me wish we had double tank back, so we could have the interaction between doom and ramattra

ivory garnet
#

they could be friends, but with Ramattra’s ideology, doesnt seem likely

ivory garnet
peak escarp
peak escarp
ivory garnet
#

in some aspects, ranking of strongest can be opinionated at some point, but the top 6 strongest will usually be the same people

obtuse crown
#

who would win in a game of chess, Sigma or Zen?

limpid agate
#

Sigma probably

#

Actually no

#

Zen would win if Omnics can use processing power to play chess

#

But then so would any omnic

supple river
peak escarp
#

I don't mean the gauntlet

#

his right arm is cybernetic under the gauntlet

#

he lost it as a young man during the crisis

sharp trench
#

Wouldn’t his left arm be cybernetic since of the hand cannon integration

peak escarp
#

maybe the knuckle guns are an implant

sharp trench
#

could be

peak escarp
#

god I hate the new bios

#

"mysterious purposes" MoiraFacepalm

Screenshot_20221123-141922_Samsung_Internet.jpg
sharp trench
#

doesn’t he literally say “Humanity will be forged in conflict”💀💀💀

peak escarp
#

yep

#

he's very clear about his motivations

sharp trench
#

what’s reaper’s bio

peak escarp
#

probably the only one that's an improvement, since the old one didn't even mention his true identity

Screenshot_20221123-142538_Samsung_Internet.jpg
sharp trench
#

yeah the old one seemed a bit too edgy

#

i wish there was more of reaper doing badass work, assassinations, etc

limpid agate
#

The worst part of the mysterious purpose bio is

#

If you scroll up on that same page

#

It literally tells you his purpose

sharp trench
#

more success rather than make him look like cartoon villain who always gets too cocky and then defeated

sharp trench
#

ow2 really did doomfist dirty

limpid agate
sharp trench
#

either someone didn’t communicate or someone didnt pass storytelling 101

drifting viper
#

That house shaped thing on doomfists chest

#

He has a lot of robot parts in his body

rain mountain
#

is cassidy good for low ranked comp

dense nebula
#

If you can aim then I guess

karmic dagger
#

Is it me or Ashe has no lore?

#

She's just a thief who has a history with mcree. That's it

#

Sad, she's my fav character 😦

limpid agate
peak escarp
#

that's plenty

dreamy epoch
#

ah yeah
I'll
I'll get to reading

#

I can't wait for ram!

ivory garnet
lyric oracle
#

On a serious note, Hanzo needs to go to therapy :/ i feel so bad for this man (accdg to his voice lines).

spark tartan
dusty raft
#

I'll be as old as Sigma by the time his lore gets expanded upon ong

#

His character intro has so much going on

#

Unless its something where he was elaborated upon and I didn't know I would love to see more Sigma content

limpid agate
#

Code of Violence is about acquiring Sigma

dusty raft
#

That a comic or smthn

peak escarp
#

it's a short story

drowsy dock
#

is cassidy x hanzo real

worthy rose
#

nerf orisa and hog

opaque scroll
peak escarp
worthy rose