lore-discussion

[split granite]

Thinking about it then there’s surely gotta be other omnics that are with null sector
Maybe not on the battlefield with him but they can still fight

If that makes sense

[elder wasp]

Probably yes

I would find it unlikely that no other Omnic wouldnt sympatise with him

Would*

[split granite]

It’d be interesting to see a hero who sided with null sector but can’t directly help in the war due to ramattras overprotectiveness of omnics

Then that way we’d see a whole new side of omnics we haven’t seen before
We’ve seen the peaceful ones and the heroes we’ve seen the main army of null sector and outlaws but never just a bunch of omnics who were inspired by null sector

Surely null sector must of had an impact on omnics like overwatch did to humans

[elder wasp]

One mans terrorist is another omnics freedom fighter

[split granite]

I hope ramattra gets a short story about his time with zenyatta and at the shrine
Or better yet we start getting one off comics again

[elder wasp]

The time with Zenyatta sounds less interesting than him traveling the world seeing how humanity treat omnics

What lead up to Null Sectors formation

I hope for a comic too

[split granite]

Yes but the shrines and his meditating would then lead into that

[elder wasp]

True true

[split granite]

I think If we got 2 comics 1 about his time at the temple and then another comic which contrasts that where he starts seeking revenge

[cunning ledge]

they would just do that in the same comic

[shadow iris]

how did junk rat lose his leg?

[cunning ledge]

probably blew it up with his own inventions

[shadow iris]

b o m b s

[cunning ledge]

"i'll keep trying until i run out of limbs"

[shadow iris]

wait i thought he said leads 💀

[bitter kayak]

he will keep on trying without any limbs

bro will def find a way💀

[shadow iris]

other peoples limbs

[limpid agate]

No his

Hes lost an arm and a leg and a finger

[shadow iris]

is ramattra a battle pass only chactor

[cunning ledge]

not lore but probably

[limpid agate]

In season 2 yes

[shadow iris]

ik he said he will keep on trying without lumbs i said he will use others

[elder wasp]

Agreed this would make more sense. The beginning/middle/end would be quite a classic 'corruption arc' (if that makes sense).

[cunning ledge]

even disregarding the story, two comics for one character backstory is overkill

especially now there are many new things to cover

[split granite]

Yeah I guess your right

But overwatch comics usually aren’t THAT long so it doesn’t feel like there’s Be much time to flesh him out in 1 comic
Well I doubt they’d do everything I said in 1 comic anyway

At that point they’d probably just go ahead and make a comic on how he begins to resent humans

[wispy dock]

what is that melody

[zinc lynx]

Is Bob an omnic?

[formal heart]

Yes

[peak escarp]

it's an auditory hallucination caused by severe brain trauma

[worthy rose]

is he sentient

[formal heart]

I have to imagine so

He is just completely obedient of Ashe

[swift summit]

Is there a designated channel for help? Sorry this isnt about lore

[formal heart]

What do you need

[elder wasp]

Depends there are these for OW related stuff #overwatch #overwatch-serious
and #general-discussion for off-topic stuff

There is no "help channel" but this is definitely not the place

[swift summit]

Ok thx

[worthy rose]

is there anything to zaryas lore cause i dont ever hear about her

[grand wedge]

She has a comic Searching and she is in the comics New Blood too.

[elder wasp]

@worthy rose you can find the comics in the pinned messages

[patent badge]

Why is overwatch so nepotistic?

friends, daughters, and siblings

No wonder they got banned

[radiant yacht]

who wanna play OW2 ?? EU

[peak escarp]

there no nepotism in Overwatch

in fact, there's the opposite

Ana wouldn't let them recruit Pharah when she was clearly qualified

it took until after the fall of Overwatch and the rise of Null Sector for her to change her mind

[alpine pawn]

and even then phara and brig are joining now so is new ow thats nepotistic

[peak escarp]

only 2 members of Overwatch are the child of another member

none are siblings

[patent badge]

Ok so only new ow is nepotistic

[peak escarp]

most are friends, but that friendship came after they joined

[past copper]

New Overwatch is gonna revolve around the new and younger members

[alpine pawn]

well theres also rein, but hes young of heart

[past copper]

This will include those who joined only a few years after the Omnic Crisis

Mostly Winston, Lena, Mei, Angela, Cole, Genji, Brigitte, Echo, and the new members

New members or “volunteers” depending on their circumstances

While I’m sure Bastion and Baptiste will become official members, I’m not sure Lúcio, Fareeha, Hana, or Zarya can be counted

[peak escarp]

Tracer joined 20 years after the crisis

Cassidy has been there the longest out of your list, he joined around 20 years ago (~5 years after the crisis)

Angela joined around 15 years ago, Winston around 10 years ago

[alpine pawn]

they prob will since in the dva comic they touch the subject of ows legality

[little parcel]

Eugene o kero kri
yuga waga tiki wo kurao

[proven ocean]

Did they all of a sudden just introduce actual magic to the lore?

[peak escarp]

there has always been magic

they just didn't call it magic

[proven ocean]

Well what did they call it?

[spice wigeon]

Shrooms

[proven ocean]

I don’t think Genji and Hanzo are magical

[spice wigeon]

I agree tho it’s kinda weird

[spice wigeon]

They’re not, they use the same tech as Symm

[proven ocean]

So like high tech projections?

[spice wigeon]

Isn’t it photon?

So like light

Kiriko’s fox is magic tho i’m pretty sure which is kinda silly

[sonic rain]

kiriko's magic come from a deeper spiritual meaning'

[past copper]

Everything about her is silly

They had years to fit her into the story

[sonic rain]

she fits

[proven ocean]

Didn’t the main writer talk about there being no magic in the lore though?

[past copper]

They bring in new management, devs, n writers and just decide screw it

[peak escarp]

spirit

[past copper]

Make her an anime protag

[sonic rain]

it isnt magic

cause its spiritual

but looking in from a non spiritual pov it is magic

[gusty kraken]

Everything about her is silly except she has infinite paper things aka infinite toilet paper = no money spend on it = she can invest =she can get rich

Yes

[sonic rain]

bruh

lol

[gusty kraken]

It's lore

Dawg

[sonic rain]

its just funny

[past copper]

It’s actually not

[gusty kraken]

I know

[gusty kraken]

🙄 it is tho

[past copper]

It’s really not. It’s actually as bland as the chicken joke

[sonic rain]

you should go back to taling about lore ryu

comedy isnt your strong suit

[gusty kraken]

Umm no. She get rich = buy Shimada clan = assassinate folk = become spy master = dominate the world

[peak escarp]

the dragons were never confirmed to be hard light, that was just a fan theory to explain them

now we know they are the same kind of spirit as Kiriko's fox spirit

[past copper]

Maybe you should go back to that Shrek Love Cult

[sonic rain]

isnt kiriko's mum like in charge of it

or is she just a trainer

[past copper]

We don’t know much on her mom

[sonic rain]

cause she trained genji and hanzo

[past copper]

Other than being a trainer

[sonic rain]

and kiriko

ahh

she is a high up member though i believe

[gusty kraken]

Yes she's a trainer = infiltrate = get kiroko to get leader easier = becoming right hand of kiriko in plot of world domination

[sonic rain]

lol

[peak escarp]

Kiriko's mother trained the Shimada brothers

[cyan spear]

you're right but hyeea

[spice wigeon]

She meditates and has crystals

[sonic rain]

no

they basically made the traditional japanese culture of spirits come i wouldnt say 'real' but more so visible

[clear kestrel]

might be wrong on this but did one of Ana's interactions with JunkerQueen lowkey canonize her wasteland skin?

[peak escarp]

Ana has passed through Junkertown

no word on what she wore when she was there

[split granite]

I heard theories she may of met Roadhog there

Also hello chat

[peak escarp]

a lot of heroes have interactions who haven't met

[cyan spear]

its more of hard light. like Symetras things, but more...'magical' (atleast i think)

[peak escarp]

so interactions shouldn't be taken as evidence

[split granite]

Someone had some decent evidence but I couldn’t find now

[dreamy epoch]

finally bro

surely releasing a novel will be easy!

https://twitter.com/PlayOverwatch/status/1590803091669934085?s=20&t=-vGy8eBrjuqwIym8mg7_IQ

Overwatch (@PlayOverwatch)

Sojourn the fierce, cybernetic soldier, commander of Overwatch in days past is in a race against time to staunch the flow of enemy forces.

Slide into Overwatch 2: Sojourn, a brand-new novel. Available everywhere books are sold.

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old overwatch gang looks spectacular to me for some reason

they just have that raw essence of people banding together

[peak escarp]

it's a good novel

[peak escarp]

this was just a theory

[cyan spear]

oh!

[peak escarp]

which has been disproven due to Kiriko

[dense nebula]

Sadly

Because magic in a sci fi world is just lazy writing

[peak escarp]

disagree

magic has rules too

[limpid wigeon]

How old is sojourn

[split granite]

40s

[limpid wigeon]

👍

[peak escarp]

we dont know - mid 50s at least

[limpid wigeon]

Thanks

[split granite]

Huh? Oh nvm then

Actually no yeah ignore me

[limpid wigeon]

Alr thanks

[split granite]

This misconception people have that magic has no rules is kinda stupid

[trail whale]

How tall is Bridgette

[split granite]

Very

[peak escarp]

using magic as the answer to everything is a cop-out, but they haven't done that yet

[trail whale]

I'd say 6'3

[split granite]

I don’t think they will
Hopefully they just keep it to spirits

[peak escarp]

we don't need a Star Wars situation where everything is just explained by the Force

[split granite]

I couldn’t agree with you more on that

Not gonna get into it but modern Star Wars stuff for the most part sucks for reasons like that

[peak escarp]

so far, Overwatch has been good about abiding by established rules

Hammond can't speak because that would break the rules

[worthy rose]

In what way?

I mean Winston speaks and he's a gorilla, basically planet of the apes type shit

[split granite]

He isn’t as advanced as winton
Advanced? Idk if that’s the right word

You know what i mean

[worthy rose]

I suppose

But still he was one of the test subjects like Winston

[split granite]

Not all of the animals there could speak

In fact I think only winton could
That’s why he was smart enough to escape

[eternal copper]

I think they trusted winston enough for him to roam around and collect things for a ship

[worthy rose]

Hammond just basically stowed away by attaching himself to Winston's ship as he left

[split granite]

No he escaped without anyone knowing all the humans were killed on space colony

[peak escarp]

gorillas have similar physiology to humans

[dense nebula]

If anything I’d argue Hammond is smarter because he’s able to fully understand the human language and translate it

[peak escarp]

hamsters do not

[eternal copper]

daang

[worthy rose]

Honestly the entire idea for Winston is basically right from planet of the apes lol

With a few changes in the details

[eternal copper]

I would rather trust a gorilla than a monkey

[worthy rose]

True

I mean Winston created the technology that keeps tracer from time skipping uncontrollably

Amoung other things

I think he had a fairly significant hand in the creation of the prototype Lena was piloting when her accident occurred

Winston created an entire ship from what he could find from the colony in order to escape

Hammond only created his mech that I'm aware of

So while Hammond may be quite intelligent there's little doubt in my mind Winston is smarter

[opaque scroll]

I think Winston escaped using an escape pod, actually

[worthy rose]

I forget how all the scientists on the lunar colony were killed

I wanna go back and reread that

[worthy rose]

Actually yeah your right he did

My lore history has gotten rusty, I need to go back and reread alot of them

@peak escarp how did the scientists of the colony die?

[peak escarp]

we don't know exactly, but it's implied that the apes tricked them into coming to the airlock and they all got ejected onto the surface of the moon without suits

[worthy rose]

So the apes killed them

@peak escarp #planet of the apes

[peak escarp]

yeah kinda

[worthy rose]

Alot of similarities

The plot is the same more or less

[peak escarp]

the devs have taken a lot of inspiration from pop culture

[worthy rose]

Obviously

@peak escarp can you pull up the lore stories of Mei, and Mercy for me?

I'd appreciate it

[peak escarp]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BFYjC78shFuhpu4Fm0l99qKQznIc7lPouQaikD5YvkY/edit?usp=drivesdk

just look in my list

[worthy rose]

K

Thanks

[livid elbow]

I know this was likely asked or theorized, but who do y'all think the mohawk overwatch person is in the Ana photo in the link below?

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/overwatch_gamepedia/images/8/8a/Ana_Overwatch_photo.png/revision/latest?cb=20180302004522

[iron osprey]

his name is like emre sarigolu

he was in the operation where rein saved torb

and hes supposedly turkish

[iron osprey]

other than that we dont know

[peak escarp]

it's not Emre

[iron osprey]

oh its not?

[peak escarp]

Emre was a throwaway name made for the White Dome teaser

we don't know who mohawk guy is

[iron osprey]

oh

huh.

maybe he hero in s3

[worthy raven]

Roadhog and mercy didn't meet in lore?

[peak escarp]

there are theories

[worthy raven]

And not in comics either?

[peak escarp]

no

[worthy raven]

OK. Then they can't be married

If they've never met.

[livid elbow]

I heard there is speculation he maybe Talon member from one of the council members in the Mascarade comic when Doomfist returned.

[peak escarp]

they're not married

[worthy raven]

Cood

Good

[iron osprey]

couldnt be. the talon council is reaper, moira, sanjay, doomfist, and maximillien

[peak escarp]

mohawk guy could also be this guy

[iron osprey]

wheres that from

[livid elbow]

from the overwatch member database from Winston cinematic short iirc

[dreamy epoch]

are there any Scottish characters

[livid elbow]

there is a image with a suspicially mohawk like figure (in a lower portion of the image)

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/overwatch_gamepedia/images/7/77/Talon_Council.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180128043517

[iron osprey]

doubt it, thats a redhead and his hair doesnt look that light

[iron osprey]

when it flashes by him it says like blear or something im trying to figure it ut

yeah it says blear and hes 36

[livid elbow]

the redhead looks dark imo. even in the photo doesn't have a totally dark color.

[iron osprey]

the face shape is very different and its a different style of hair so i doubt it

[iron osprey]

just doesnt make sense to me

theyve already had a character who was overwatch and became a head of talon

[peak escarp]

could just be different artists

[iron osprey]

true.

[peak escarp]

but I don't think it's him eithe

[iron osprey]

i just think it would be weird if he never showed up

they added sojourn and she was there so

or atleast give him a story where he got kia or went mia or something

[grim pawn]

man ive been so mad by how they changed orisa's voice lines in ow2
her whole thing used to be that she was compassionate to a fault, that her understanding and humanity was a contrast to doomfist's senseless chaos and violence
but now, they made her so that she's just a violent psychopathic robot who loves killing people

[peak escarp]

everyone else in that image is a playable hero

so it makes sense that mohawk guy will be important too

[peak escarp]

that's not even close to Orisa's voice lines

[grim pawn]

i dont know, i feel like giving her lines like "lethal force authorized" and "executed" are a little much

efi taught her not to hurt people when she can avoid it, and she let doomfist get away so that she could save a different villain's life

many of her interactions in ow2 come off as aggressive and unwarranted, going as far as to threaten... tracer

such a different tone to how she was in ow1, even though nothing has ostensibly changed
i've heard people say she "grew confident after doomfist's defeat", but that was before ow1 even took place

[peak escarp]

she's matured

but she's not a murderbot

and when did she threaten Tracer?

[grim pawn]

Tracer: You're not exactly built for speed, Orisa. How do you catch someone who's running away?
Orisa: I will provide a demonstration. Start running.
and you can tell by her tone she is not trying to be helpful lol

[peak escarp]

it's a joke

[grim pawn]

i think the idea that maturity and "understanding the world" means becoming more violent is something that overwatch vehemently rejects. characters who think that way (like doomfist and reaper) are portrayed as villains, while characters who reject it (winston and tracer) are shown to be heroic.

[peak escarp]

her tone was definitely not serious

[grim pawn]

shrug. think what you will

[split granite]

Yeah that’s not canon just a silly voiceline they added

[grim pawn]

you don't consider voice lines to be canon?
i mean ill always prioritize official lore sources over in game dialogue, but this is what we're working with

well not literally canon, because overwatch the game isn't canon, but

they reveal stuff about the characters yknow?

[split granite]

The interactions themselves are not canon but if they provide backstory on anything then that is

If you know what I mean

[grim pawn]

yeah, i get what you mean

[peak escarp]

voice lines are "what ifs"

hypothetical conversations

[split granite]

Yeah but if they provide history then that is canon no? I’m trynna think of an example

Ah ok so soldier talks about how orisa chased doomfist out of numbani
Soldier saying this to Orisa itself isn’t canon but the fact soldier is aware of it is? Maybe not that’s how I always interpreted it though

[drifting viper]

I consider voice lines kind of canon

They show us how characters feel about other characters

[iron osprey]

yeah

[peak escarp]

saying Orisa has "embraced violence" is like saying Echo is a killer robot because she can kill in the game

[iron osprey]

like winston wouldnt actually be talking to doomfist

[grim pawn]

thats a really silly comparison. gameplay is not the same as dialogue

[drifting viper]

Anyone want to hear my favourite joke about the periodic table?

[grim pawn]

or else why would i not have a problem with overwatch 1 orisa?

but anyway. i dont want to argue, i said my piece

i suppose i shall continue to consider hero of numbani as my most up to date canon

[iron osprey]

seriously whos mohawk guy tho

they better explain him

season 3 hero

[drifting viper]

The voice line i hear the most in game is

Reaper to moira: flattery will get you the grave

[grim pawn]

is there really NOTHING you can do for this PAIN?

[drifting viper]

Sigh

[peak escarp]

Hero of Numbani is the most up to date lore for Orisa

[grim pawn]

and i very much love that book

[peak escarp]

we haven't seen her post timeskip yet

[grim pawn]

well, i got my fingers crossed, in any case

[iron osprey]

seeing a cinematic with the original fight of genji and hanzo would be really cool

[worthy rose]

@peak escarp Just finished rereading Mercy's short story Valkyrie

Was interesting to read it again

Orisa was made to defend numbani and defeat Doomfist, she never kills unless she has to

Not in any sense does orisa kill discriminatly, nor is she a murder bot

[peak escarp]

what did you think of it?

[molten shore]

Lucios summer and hockey skins are actually in the lore like he actually wore them right

[peak escarp]

Valkyrie is one of the weaker stories in my opinion

Chu isn't a very strong prose writer

[peak escarp]

we dont have anything indicating that he did

[past copper]

I kinda liked Mercy’s story. It actually gives backstory to her scene in We Are Overwatch short

[peak escarp]

but he does like soccer and hockey

[molten shore]

I think he had a hockey stick hanging up

Yeah he had a stick and ice skates

[peak escarp]

hockey isn't popular in Brazil, but due to globalization it doesn't have to be

for him to like it

[molten shore]

Wait are most of the archives skins cannon oobviously not the ones that came out with soilder 1776 and bushi genji

[peak escarp]

most, but not all

[molten shore]

I don't think soilder 24 reaper would be

I gotta look at all of them

[peak escarp]

it is

that's what Reyes looked like before the crisis

before Overwatch

[molten shore]

What about lucio archives and I think cool sun glasses pharah is

[peak escarp]

the Equalizer skin is based off his concept art

[molten shore]

Wasn't that actually what lucio was going to look like

Yeah

It's one of his better skins just needs different music

[peak escarp]

I wish more of his skins had unique music

[molten shore]

It's not a bad design the skates are the only bad part because it's not futuristic I guess you could say

[peak escarp]

they did it for Jazzy and that's it

[molten shore]

Exactly

So stupid

[peak escarp]

hope for his mythic skin we get a choice of music

[molten shore]

Same

Or spotify lucio plays your music

Is that one skin going to be his mythic one

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/962174464639004772/1040435422205063188/Screenshot_20221110_171824.jpg

[past copper]

Nobody knows who the mythic skin is going to, but pattern wise, I may go to a tank next

My best guess is that the tank getting a mythic skin is gonna be Zarya

[peak escarp]

no that looks like an epic

[past copper]

Course, I think most mythic skins are chosen based on most played heroes

Hence why Genji was the first

[peak escarp]

there's no indication what hero will get the next mythic

[sharp trench]

100% know what i'd be playing

[peak escarp]

and that's why they'd never allow that

[sharp trench]

that and copyright would be a total bitch

[worthy rose]

is there a watch order for all the lore? (Videos/comics etc)

[peak escarp]

!!loreguide

[twilit nacelle]

This is a guide for people who don't know where to begin with the lore of Overwatch. The first thing is probably to go watch the shorts. They're popular, easy to consume, and pack a lot of story and character.
Shorts Playlist: https://bit.ly/2UQyTeL

There are many comics, short stories, and blog posts as well. The most important ones are:
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
Stone By Stone: https://bit.ly/36EsPul

Also important for Overwatch 2 is Cassidy's comic series, New Blood:
#1: https://bit.ly/3wJqcnL
#2: https://bit.ly/3ejXkd0
#3: https://bit.ly/3fbBwB3
#4: https://bit.ly/3B9zLOE
#5: https://bit.ly/3iaM0lB

There is also an important chain of events following Ana and Soldier 76 (and Mercy at the end):
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE

The rest of the stories are mostly optional. Special mention goes out to the Junkers, who have an entertaining string of stories:
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
A Moment in Crime: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC

[peak escarp]

just go through this list, these are all the important ones

[past steppe]

hammer down!

[red garnet]

who is the weakest character in lore?

[peak escarp]

Mei

[red garnet]

for real?

[peak escarp]

yes

she has very little combat experience and her weapons are experimental

[molten shore]

That's good so it will only be like 10bucks I don't pay attention to prices

[ashen brook]

I'm not racist, but does Agent 76 know where two bit is

[peak escarp]

what

[worthy rose]

Ofc not

Mercy secretly married Genji

[peak escarp]

she did not

[worthy rose]

Their son’s name is Misashi

[peak escarp]

!!shitposting @worthy rose

[twilit nacelle]

@native harbor Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[worthy rose]

He has a healing dragon spirit

Just a theory

[peak escarp]

that's not a theory

that's a shitpost

[worthy rose]

[split granite]

I swear these have been more common as of recent

[worthy rose]

Fine

It’s a head canon

[peak escarp]

this is not the place for headcanon

[worthy rose]

[split granite]

It is quite literally called lore discussion

[worthy rose]

Is Tracer lesbian?

[peak escarp]

yes

[worthy rose]

@peak escarp I enjoyed it, afterall Mercy is my support main

Has been for a couple of years

I still can't do a super jump when I need to tbh lol

I know how to but it's difficult

What is Cassidy referencing when he says he can’t forget what happened in Hanamura?

[peak escarp]

Blackwatch taking down the Shimada clan

[worthy rose]

bruh

[split granite]

Love blackwatch Ik they’re a little edgy but the team is so cool

[worthy rose]

Blackwatch was basically the black ops division of overwatch

From the name it's pretty obvious tbh

@peak escarp Well Mei is a scientist, but she basically decided to take up arms for the sake of the world

So the fact that she has very little combat experience is unsurprising

Plus she was lost in a research base, in cryo for ten years

[dreamy epoch]

Mei is just barely capable of holding her own imo

or like
zero hour is weird because comic book logic but I feel that's about as useful as she can be in said situations

she's not a fighter

[worthy rose]

She actually helped Dva, Winston fight one of the titan omnics I believe but was wounded and mercy had to heal her

[peak escarp]

Tracer

not D.Va

[worthy rose]

Oh tracer was in on that fight too

Ah

@peak escarp Dva joins overwatch at some point doesn't she?

[peak escarp]

in the last issue of New Blood

[worthy rose]

@peak escarp what you think of Dva's origin lore?

[peak escarp]

it's fine

[worthy rose]

Her country basically turned her into a solider lol

[peak escarp]

she was drafted

[worthy rose]

Ik

Dva's story a little sad, she was a professional gamer, and got drafted into the Korean war against the omnics

Still there sader origin stories like Mei's or Winston's

[peak escarp]

she's happy to fight for her country

she's got that in common with Zarya

[worthy rose]

Yeah but according to the story the war puts alot of stress on her

Russians, war is part of who they are tbh, they are used to it

Same with the Japanese, if you know about samurai history, the whole country was in a civil war for over a century, the next generations literally knew nothing but war

I like Zarya's story, she sacrificed winning the championships to go off and fight for her country

[worthy rose]

And yet in the game she's probably the strongest 1v1 fighter there is lol

In the game Mei is definitely not weak

I rather like Mei's playstyle, you can fight ranged and close quarters with her

[alpine pawn]

i mean new ow is probably giving mei training in between missions

[worthy rose]

True

[alpine pawn]

their not gonna give her a weapon and say go learn or die

[peak escarp]

training can only get you so far

experience is more valuable

[worthy rose]

Exactly

[alpine pawn]

yeah but shes not being kept from the battlefield, still shes prob the least capable of the current members yeah

[worthy rose]

Again she devoted herself to being a scientist, not a solider

[peak escarp]

someone asked who the weakest hero is

the answer is Mei

[worthy rose]

Same with Mercy, but mercy has been quite a bit of combat

[worthy rose]

In the lore, I'm not surprised at all, in the game she's one of the stronger Heros

[sharp trench]

mei is the most incompetent one though

mercy at least knows how to fix wounds in combat

[worthy rose]

At least when it comes to 1v1 fights

Literally Mei's entire hero kit is built around singling out heros, so she or her team can kill them more easily

[dreamy epoch]

gameplay does not equal lore

[worthy rose]

Exactly

Mercy is a combat medic when she's in a battle, she doesn't take part in the fighting but at least she has the experience to defend herself if needed

Mei is just inexperienced as hell

[sharp trench]

speaking realistically reaper could kill every single hero by just smoking up and killing them in their sleep or something

[worthy rose]

Reaper prefers for those he kills to see him killing them at least in the lore

[limpid agate]

Realistically a 5 year old with a shotgun could kill a hero in their sleep

I dont see the point in that argument

[worthy rose]

Assuming a 5 y old could wield one

Much less two

[limpid agate]

I never said anything about two

You're missing the point

[worthy rose]

I know what your point is and I agree lol

[sharp trench]

Reaper has the mobility to get almost anywhere

[worthy rose]

Reaper just pops out of nowhere and kills everyone

He doesn't need to murder people in their sleep

This isn't the typical story of an angry wife slaying her husband in his sleep lol

[sharp trench]

Reaper's the only one who can actually get around obstacles without outright destroying them, then pulling up with shotguns and pretty much killing the target before they have a chance to react

[limpid agate]

And Sombra

And Symmetra

[past copper]

I don’t know. Brig could be weaker than Mei

Take away her flail and shield and what does she have?

[peak escarp]

muscles

and hand-to-hand training with Reinhardt

[past copper]

True, but that’s kinda useless against omnics when you think about it

I mean, even normal bullets were useless so...

[peak escarp]

that doesn't matter

[limpid agate]

No they arent

[past copper]

Normal bullets? No they are useless. I’m referring to the cop shooting Null Sector with no affect against them

And she was using a rifle so the fact that didn’t do anything is interesting

Though, it could’ve just been plot armor at that moment

[worthy rose]

It would depend on the armor thickness the omnic is wearing and the caliber and type of bullet used

Irl there are bullet calibers capable of going through feet of solid concrete and even rounds built as tank busters

[past copper]

This is what she was using to shoot these units

[limpid agate]

If bullets were useless

Bastion would be useless

We've seen Bastion is not useless

The Russian army would also be useless

[past copper]

And honestly, I doubt police get that kinda heavy fire power

[limpid agate]

We've seen the Russian army is not useless

[worthy rose]

Exactly.

But my point is there are bullets that exist that can kill even a heavily armored target

Or penetrate to be more precise

[past copper]

I’m just saying, weapons were ungraded or people got skilled enough to take out robots

During and after the crisis

But that would mean Null Sector could’ve adapted against this

[worthy rose]

Ow is set in the future, I'm sure everything is more advanced overall

[past copper]

They had plenty of time to do so after their defeat at King’s Row

Then again, between the King’s Row Uprising and Zero Hour

We don’t know what Null Sector have been up to

[worthy rose]

Consider the technology available to the world in curernt times irl, ow is set most likely at least 50 years in the future, so they would havw access to things that don't exist now

[peak escarp]

Overwatch is "something like" 60 years in the future

[worthy rose]

Yeah

If you have ever looked at the bullets in cree's revolver they have a glowing ring around them

[past copper]

Yea, I’ve noticed that

Like I said, they’d have to use special weapons and serious training to fight during the Crisis

But just as humans adapt to fight so to could omnics

[worthy rose]

Cree didn't even fight in the crisis, not as a frontline combatant anyways

[past copper]

No, but he did fight against Talon, as far as we’ve seen

[worthy rose]

Reyes aka reaper recruited him into blackwatch

[peak escarp]

Cassidy was a child during the crisis

[past copper]

And those guys are pretty armored up

Not sure just how tough armor is, but if he’s using a pistol, the ammo would have to penetrate it some how

[worthy rose]

Still humanity won the crisis

[peak escarp]

he was able to shoot through their armor in Trainhopper

[worthy rose]

So in conclusion they obviously had ways of killing omnic troops

@peak escarp in the ow timeline how many years has passed since the omnic crisis ended? Over ten years I know that much

[peak escarp]

~25 years

[worthy rose]

Thanks

[past copper]

I just thought of this. Ramattra was built at some point during the crisis

You think he’s the official oldest now

[peak escarp]

Bastion is 30

built at the start of the crisis

Ramattra is probably also 30

[worthy rose]

He was built to lead the omnic forces in the war, but choose peace instead, but now has decided to lead a war against humans for what he believes will make a better world for omnics

[peak escarp]

in the novel, ||Sojourn, Morrison and Dr. Liao go into the Detroit omnium|| and see Ravator omnics being made

Ramattra is a Ravator

[worthy rose]

@peak escarp I'm fuzzy to ehat omniums are

[peak escarp]

the self-sufficient factories that built omnics

[worthy rose]

Ah

[peak escarp]

run by AI programs

[worthy rose]

Didn't roadhog attack the one in Australia and radiation did something to him

I use the militia hog skin and it says a little about that

detroit’s existence is canon

[peak escarp]

the Australian omnium was given to the omnics as a gesture of peace, which displaced the farmers who lived around it

Roadhog was one of them

[worthy rose]

Yeah so they formed a resistance

And attacked it

[peak escarp]

they formed the ALF and attacked the omnium, sabotaging it and causing a meltdown that irradiated the outback

Junkertown is built from the remains of the omnium

[worthy rose]

Yep that's the story I remember

[worthy rose]

Really?

[peak escarp]

yep

[worthy rose]

I didn't know that

[peak escarp]

they were big factories, the size of a small city

[past copper]

Yup. Now Null Sector is using command ship factories to invade cities

[worthy rose]

@peak escarp Your like the loremaster around here, I thought I had a good idea of the timeline events of the game but apparently not

[peak escarp]

there's a reason I'm the Lore Warlord

and this is without me even looking anything up

[worthy rose]

@peak escarp Loremaster sounds cooler in my opinion

[past copper]

Isn’t loremaster already taken? In Helltaker

[worthy rose]

Uh idk

I never played that game

[peak escarp]

my title was bestowed upon me by someone a long time ago

[worthy rose]

Ah

[peak escarp]

(it's funnier considering I'm a woman)

[worthy rose]

American woman, stay away from me, American woman, mama let me be

[past copper]

Yeah it is. Azazel/Loremaster

[peak escarp]

not American

[worthy rose]

Yeah ik I'm jk

I reciting some of the lyrics to an old song

[peak escarp]

I know the song

[worthy rose]

Ah yes the guess who

[peak escarp]

anyway, we're getting off topic

[worthy rose]

Yeah your right my apologies

@peak escarp so what, were hog and junk always like they were or did the radiation from the omninium cause them to undergo a mutation or something

[peak escarp]

Hog has radiation poisoning (that's what his canisters are supposed to treat)

[worthy rose]

But were they always a hog and a rat?

[peak escarp]

Junkrat is only 26, so he was probably exposed as a child

[worthy rose]

so junkrat has brain damage?

from the poisoning

[worthy rose]

Nah

Likely if anything it caused his DNA to mutate or something, ans maybe it caused him a kind of psychosis or something

i see

that makes sense

so a different type of "cancer" basically

I mean that's what radiation does, I mean all radiation is gamma rays that pass through your body and cause the DNA in your cells to fracture and often mutate

Why radiation causes cancer often, because it causes your DNA to fracture and change

yea, and is hog just like addictedto his canisters, because he uses them to heal wounds in battle but they are used to treat his radiation poisoning

idk

I mean a reactor blowing up while they are still in the vincinty of it would definitely cause hog to receive more then his body could dispose of without physiological effects happening to him

true

I wonder of the nature of the reactor though, if it nuclear or some other kind that uses an atomically unstable element as fuel

[peak escarp]

I don't think they ever clarified what kind of reactor it was

[worthy rose]

True

way off topic of junk and hog but is sigmas "melody" a auditory psycosis from his failed expiriment or could it be iris

[peak escarp]

it's not the Iris

[worthy rose]

Yeah basically sig has brain damage

i see

I mean he got exposed to a black hole

he claimes to have met iris in game with a conversation with xen

zen*

[peak escarp]

he also claims to have met fairies

[worthy rose]

true

[peak escarp]

he's not a reliable narrator

[worthy rose]

Have y'all heard the new VL between soldier and sig?

i do find it interesting that while sigma is blind can still see

[peak escarp]

he's not blind

[worthy rose]

@worthy rose no, can i get the line?

Solider basically tells sig to snap out of it and that Talon is using him and sig is completely distracted and goinf rambling on about the universe lol

@peak escarp REALLY!? he looks blind on his basic skin

[peak escarp]

he's got light blue eyes

[worthy rose]

@worthy rose oh yea, i heard that one, is it the ants on the ceiling?

I think when people go blind they lose the color in their irises

[worthy rose]

I think so. Lol

[peak escarp]

when people go blind sometimes their eyes go hazy/milky

but not always

[worthy rose]

@peak escarp LOL I THOUGHT HE WAS BLIND (sorry thats not funny, not laughing at blind ppl)

Imagine being blind, not being able to ever play video games again 😔

[peak escarp]

if he was blind I think they would mention it a lot

[worthy rose]

true

@worthy rose that would suck, in many ways, your entire life goes away

Sig is just brain damaged and distracted pretty much

@worthy rose yea, almost like some form of autisim

That seems like a reasonable comparison

its interesting to me to see the heros psycology and how they feel, like how reaper is in a constant state of pain

divulged in a VL with moira

Yeah moira saved reaper, reaper's cells are basically constantly changing states of matter

Which is why he can fade and all that

yes

andi wonder if he cant stay in wraith because it hurts :/

Which makes me wonder if moira has done something similar to herself, since she can fade

hmm i didnt think of that

A VL between reaper and moira, reaper says he's constantly in excruciating pain

brobably used reaper as a test for her own wraith

@worthy rose yes

[peak escarp]

Moira's wraith powers seem to be a perfected version, that she has better control over and doesn't cause her constant pain

[worthy rose]

Thought so

i just love the VL when D.Va kills moira and goes "this rabbit fights back!"

Heard the new VL between Ashe and Kiriko?

what is it?

possibly

Where ashe says we hunt foxes where I come from, and Kiriko replys where I come from the foxes fight back

lol

i love the fact that moiras damage hand has grown up her arm, BE REMINDED OF YOUR FAILURES MOIRA HAHA!

Moira experimented on herself as well, there's a moira spray that heavily hints to that

it has gone from her elbow to her sholder, its spreading :p i feel like nobody else noticed that

[worthy rose]

yea

i knew about that

[peak escarp]

she may be left handed, because I don't think most people would experiment on their dominant hand/arm

[worthy rose]

ooh

didnt even realize that

"what an nteresting hypothisis"

As distasteful as moira's personality is I have always enjoyed playinf her

I remember when she first came out, she was kinda broken tbh

i like that they kindof have to aim now

and it isnt a lock on

[peak escarp]

it never was

[worthy rose]

like sym WAYYYYY bac when

Sym used to be op asf

[peak escarp]

but that isn't lore

[worthy rose]

With that lock on beam of hers

it at least feels like its harder to aim with moira

[worthy rose]

No it was more like semi lock on

yea

like winstons gun

Exactly

[peak escarp]

it's a beam, like Zarya's

but again, not lore

[worthy rose]

@peak escarp are you talking about sym or moira?

[peak escarp]

Moira

[worthy rose]

Zarya's beam was always been linear

@peak escarp yea, its changed science OW1

[peak escarp]

no, it was always a beam

they just made the hitbox smaller

[worthy rose]

Sym and Moira's beams used to be a scan lock beam

moiras was never full lock but you didnt need perfect aim either

Exactly

[peak escarp]

Symmetra's was a lock on, Moiras has always been a beam with a misleading animation

[worthy rose]

i see

Hmm

I really like playing all the beam heros

like how winstons gun is technically a cone fire

[peak escarp]

but anyway

back to the lore

[worthy rose]

yes

ehy do i feel like sym or lucio stole from vishcar?

[urban moth]

why don’t regular soldiers have weaponry like S76’s pulse rifle

[peak escarp]

Lucio stole the sonic weapon from Vishkar

[worthy rose]

ok

[peak escarp]

which his father made while he was a Vishkar employee

[worthy rose]

i do have a brain lol

[worthy rose]

Because soldier stole his rifle from Helix

[urban moth]

ah, so it’s stupidly overengineered an expensive

[worthy rose]

@urban moth soilder was a strike commander, later to be the "nameless" soilder 76

[peak escarp]

Soldier's Helix Rifle was an experimental Overwatch prototype that was being guarded by Helix Security

[worthy rose]

Pretty much

yea

[urban moth]

also shield tech of the crusaders, shields can interlock and become vastly more powerful than both separately

[peak escarp]

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/news/19809235/

[urban moth]

why not just line up like 10 of them and create a stupidly massive and strong shield

[worthy rose]

@urban moth I WANT THAT FEATURE

its not added

[molten shore]

Wait did he steal it?

[urban moth]

like in the bastion cinematic

[worthy rose]

@molten shore yes

[worthy rose]

Yes

[urban moth]

during the battle, there were crusader units

[peak escarp]

yes he stole it from a decomissioned Overwatch watchpoint

[urban moth]

ah

[molten shore]

So guns he has in younger skins of him are normal guys

Guns

[worthy rose]

@urban moth they didnt add that feature to the game and its kinda depressing :/

[urban moth]

they probably will in PvE

[worthy rose]

i hopw so

[urban moth]

but something else that interests me

the functionality of the weapons

how they actually work

[worthy rose]

but i want to interlock shields with my rein in a battle

@urban moth whos?

[urban moth]

in general

[worthy rose]

i see

[urban moth]

like orisa’s cannon or smth

you can see parts of the mechanism in-game

[worthy rose]

Imagine being able to combine Brigs bash with reins shield and charge

[urban moth]

but it’s interesting to imagine how the tech works

[worthy rose]

symmetras is hard light and lucios is sould

[peak escarp]

the "interlock shields" and Blizzard Bomb moments in Zero Hour were made by the writer as a tribute to in-game combos

it's not likely to be something actually added to the game

[worthy rose]

@worthy rose sound*

@peak escarp ;-;

[urban moth]

i’ll excuse hard light tech as clarketech because of how far future and “impossible” it is

but lucio’s sonic tech is more interesting

[worthy rose]

@urban moth smae with the brothers dragons

There was a custom game mode in ow1 where you could from a hero pile with your teammates and combine all your abilities

they hard light

[urban moth]

well that’s not necessarily any form of science

[peak escarp]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_weapon

[urban moth]

already know about these

[peak escarp]

this is something already in use by the US military

[worthy rose]

@urban moth blizzard said it was so it must be true

[urban moth]

lucio’s sound is different though

[worthy rose]

Ships use those against pirates

[urban moth]

it’s literal concentrated beams and blasts

the concept is fascinating though

[lost shard]

does Lucio having Spotify premium canon

[urban moth]

imagine a sound pulse that forms an air ring

with enough energy to actually be hot

and impact something with force

[worthy rose]

@lost shard uhh, i dont think so

[lost shard]

hm he prob does

[urban moth]

there’s already air ring cannons, home made

that can break concrete

nothing handheld though, they’re big shoulder or table mounted rigs

[worthy rose]

@lost shard to be fair, this is like roadhog and mrecy being married, neither confirmed nor denied, (yes this was a thibg that went around)

Sound is just vibrations caused when the atoms in matter collide, or in the case of music vibrations in the air

[peak escarp]

remember, this is 60ish years in the future

and also it's scifi fiction

[urban moth]

yeah

[urban moth]

that’s temperature

[lost shard]

ROADHOG AND MERCY R NOT MARRIED

[urban moth]

although it’s similar

[lost shard]

but I do ship genji and mercy but its not canon

the relationships aren't rlly canon

[peak escarp]

it's strongly hinted at

[worthy rose]

@lost shard IK BUT IT WAS A THING THAT WENT AROUND DONT @ ME I DODNT MAKE IT A THING ;-;\

[lost shard]

OKKK

[worthy rose]

There is a fair amount to suggest that there is something romantic going on between Mercy and Genji

[urban moth]

sound waves are just waves of pressure, increased density areas trailed by lower density areas

[lost shard]

wtf fr

[worthy rose]

@worthy rose yruee

[lost shard]

YES

genjinand mercy r the best bro

[urban moth]

they move out from a source with a given energy and continue to carry that energy, slowly dispersing as the wave expands

[worthy rose]

when mercy get hurt genji randomly says ANGELA! its so cute!

Genjmercy actually works pretty well if both are fairly skilled

[urban moth]

similar to temperature but at a much larger scale

[peak escarp]

they're the only 2 heroes who have Valentines Day/White Day interactions with each other

[urban moth]

now lucio is funny though

[worthy rose]

Was about to mention that

[urban moth]

because what’s going on there is

[worthy rose]

Lucio got friendzoned by D.VA once

Mercy gives Genji chocolates on Valentine's day

Its a VL in game

[urban moth]

“oh yeah, one more thing”

ruptures your fucking eardrums

[worthy rose]

@worthy rose no, he tells mercy he got chocolates and was hoping to share them with her

[worthy rose]

Don't you mean pressure waves?

[urban moth]

although gotta love the medical technology of overwatch

[worthy rose]

True

[lost shard]

ik its so cutee

[urban moth]

i’m comparing the two

[lost shard]

doesn't overwatch take place in 2070

[peak escarp]

around then

we don't know the exact year

[lost shard]

ic

[worthy rose]

@lost shard i think they said 2076

[urban moth]

temperature is the microscopic movement of atoms in a substance, waves are basically that but scaled up over a massive area

[lost shard]

who has the saddest backstory

[urban moth]

if you take the movement of waves in the middle of the ocean

[peak escarp]

they haven't given an official year

[urban moth]

excluding ocean currents

[peak escarp]

Mei

[lost shard]

eh mei is kinda sad

[worthy rose]

@peak escarp i see, idk where i heard that then

[urban moth]

and then compared them to the movement of atoms in a substance due to temperature

[lost shard]

I think widow had the saddest story

[urban moth]

they’d be nearly identical

[peak escarp]

it's a common headcanon in the community

[lost shard]

wtf even is orisas origin

[worthy rose]

Temperature is basically the speed of which atoms are moving and how much energy they are creating as a result

@lost shard mei woke up to att her friends DEAD, so she builds snowball to keep her company

But this is off topic

[peak escarp]

https://youtu.be/Lvm0of3iDUU

[lost shard]

she didn't build snowball after her friends died

[lost shard]

o ok ty

[peak escarp]

she didn't build Snowball, Snowball is a weather drone used by the facility

[lost shard]

yeah

[worthy rose]

@peak escarp she did SOMTHING to snowball, did she reprogram it then?

Mei built her emdothermic diffuser tho

[lost shard]

how did genji become like a cyborg

[worthy rose]

true

[peak escarp]

she didn't do anything to Snowball

[worthy rose]

@lost shard hanzo killed him and mecy saved him

[lost shard]

what ft

fr?

[worthy rose]

@lost shard yes

[lost shard]

wow

thats insane

[worthy rose]

Overwatch gave the prosthetics to him after he agreed to aid the organization destroy the shimada clan

thats where the ship started

[lost shard]

why his brother kill him

[worthy rose]

After Hanzo nearly killed him ans mercy saved him

[lost shard]

genji and hanzo had beef

[worthy rose]

@lost shard genji was careless and going to be the next heir to his fathers empire

[lost shard]

ic

[peak escarp]

when the clan elders ordered Hanzo to get his brother Genji in line, Hanzo almost killed him - Overwatch saved Genji's life and offered him a cyborg body in exchange for his help taking down the Shimada clan

[worthy rose]

while hanzo worked his tail off to be the next heir

[lost shard]

I'm a noob at overwatcj lore yall r big brain 😭

[urban moth]

before i start justifying my claim with quantum physics involving wave-particle duality, i have basically zero clue what i’m talking about so i’d get like half of it wrong

and that’s also not overwatch lore

[lost shard]

wow

[worthy rose]

Exactly

[urban moth]

well, i know about the normal physics part

[worthy rose]

@lost shard its cinamatics and lore pages to in game voice lines that give tidbits of info

[urban moth]

the temperature and waves and stuff

i don’t know about the quantum part

[lost shard]

ngl bruh whoever(s)designed the overwatch character needs a raise

[urban moth]

so for the sake of the argument it’s easier to treat them as semi-related but otherwise separate things

[lost shard]

heroes

[urban moth]

although

[worthy rose]

@urban moth FR

[urban moth]

actually overwatch lore

kiriko

[lost shard]

overwatch is beautiful

[urban moth]

the timeline

i’m confused

[worthy rose]

WHERE SHE GO!?

[lost shard]

ppl simping over kiriko bro

[urban moth]

kiriko trained with genji and hanzo

[lost shard]

whats kiriko lore

[lost shard]

makes sense

[urban moth]

and kiriko’s mom was their sword master

[worthy rose]

@lost shard the art channel had some weird kiriko request

[lost shard]

wow

[urban moth]

but kiriko is about 12 years younger than genji and hanzo

so it makes no sense

[lost shard]

genji is beautiful bro

[worthy rose]

@peak escarp we can tell what one is genji lol

[lost shard]

literally majestic

[worthy rose]

ikr

i need that man

[lost shard]

FRR

[urban moth]

i miss goofball genji

[worthy rose]

lol

[lost shard]

imma be someone's mercy one day

someone will be my genji

[worthy rose]

@lost shard LOL

[lost shard]

LOLL

I'm bffr 😭

[worthy rose]

forever in cosplay

[lost shard]

no

not like that

[urban moth]

i mean

[worthy rose]

XD

[urban moth]

i’m becoming efi

[lost shard]

😭 i hate cosplays no offense

[worthy rose]

@lost shard jk

[urban moth]

your dreams can probably come true too

[lost shard]

they're just creepy to me like

[urban moth]

the shitty ones are either funny or creepy

[worthy rose]

true

[urban moth]

the decent-good ones are fun

[lost shard]

problem is that I don't have a personality and I haven't gone through puberty still at 13

[worthy rose]

but if your too good its scary

[lost shard]

🤠

😭

[worthy rose]

@lost shard LOLL

[lost shard]

yea ppl think I'm in 4th grade while I'm in 8th 💀

[worthy rose]

u will find it, BUT WE OFF TOPIC AGAIN

Ever seen a Zhuque Mercy cosplay? It's actually pretty neat

[lost shard]

I'm in middle school still ppl on my bus ask me if I'm in 6th grade I said I'm in 8th and they tell me I'm lying 💀

mf.

[worthy rose]

Dva bomb them.

[lost shard]

ppl call me dora too bro so I jus tell them imma stick the map up ur ass

[worthy rose]

;-; i can feel that 5' 4 over here

[lost shard]

im

4'11

no growth spurt and I'm asian

xd

[worthy rose]

oof

[lost shard]

id rather be short than tall tho

[worthy rose]

SAME

[lost shard]

tall girls r scary af 💀

[peak escarp]

please stay on topic

[lost shard]

sorry

but yea anyways

[peak escarp]

if you want to socialize take it to #general-discussion

[lost shard]

yes sir

[peak escarp]

ma'am

[lost shard]

or maam

[worthy rose]

lol

[lost shard]

yea I just checked ur profile mb

sorry

meko Anna go to general

wanna

goofy autocorrect

[worthy rose]

@peak escarp this the only channel I care about now, whenever I go into the general chat channels the topic changes like the wind through the plains

we gon get lost there ;-;

[lost shard]

literally 😭

idc tho we finna get warned

[peak escarp]

then take it to DMs

[ivory garnet]

Warlord, what comic does D.VA get put into overwatch teamv

?*

[peak escarp]

New Blood, vol 5

[lost shard]

can't have my dms open for safety issues

[ivory garnet]

alr ty

[worthy rose]

@peak escarp About widow, the sniper duel Ana was in was that widow, or someone in her family line?

[peak escarp]

that was with Widow

https://static.playoverwatch.com/media/comics/7/en-us/comic-overwatch-legacy.pdf

[worthy rose]

I figured but wasn't certain

[ivory garnet]

is the new blood, new, im guessing? its not in the pins

[peak escarp]

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/media/stories/new-blood-1/

[limpid agate]

!!newblood

[twilit nacelle]

Cassidy - New Blood:
#1: https://bit.ly/3wJqcnL
#2: https://bit.ly/3ejXkd0
#3: https://bit.ly/3fbBwB3
#4: https://bit.ly/3B9zLOE
#5: https://bit.ly/3iaM0lB

[ivory garnet]

ty both of you

[worthy rose]

Isn't it pretty cool how this game pretty much has it's own culture, it's kinda become a subpopculture

Figurines, Comics explaining the lore, etc.

But I've always enjoyed the lore of this game the most

[ivory garnet]

as per multiplayer games, Overwatch, Injustice, and old cod have my favorite lore

really hope blizzard doesnt forget the cinematics and comics

once they start PvE

[worthy rose]

@limpid agate what do you have to do to get the lore regular title? I just want it so I can look up the lore stories in this channel

[peak escarp]

there are lists in the pins

[limpid agate]

Be a lore regular

[peak escarp]

you don't need a special role for those

[worthy rose]

Hmm

[limpid agate]

You can also use the commands in #bot-commands

[worthy rose]

Ok

[limpid agate]

Sigh...

[worthy rose]

!!lorelist

[limpid agate]

Reread what I said and try again

[worthy rose]

Funny, I've spent more time on this server in the last day and a half then I have spent in total for months, mostly in this channel

I'll see if I can find the short I'm looking for in the pins

[limpid agate]

Again

You can use the commands in #bot-commands

I havent updated the pins in a while

So you probably wont find recent shit there

Use the commands in #bot-commands

[worthy rose]

No the stories I want are there

[tepid thicket]

Hello everyone

I am a new person

Is there any little brother who can play games with me?

[limpid agate]

!!loreonly

[twilit nacelle]

This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[worthy rose]

@tepid thicket ypu want #overwatch-serious

[limpid agate]

No you dont

That is also the wrong channel

If you are looking for people to play with, use the lfg channels

[sharp trench]

what about his rifle from before, looks very similar to said helix rifle

actually, was Orisa’s shield a gameplay thing or is there anything in lore for it

[peak escarp]

she used it in Hero of Numbani

[sharp trench]

could also remove the whole crusader thing and use deployable shield devices like Orisa had

is there any reason why reaper or reyes uses the hellfires even though they’re so “cumbersome to reload”

[peak escarp]

rule of cool

[sharp trench]

oh so he just does it to be cool

fair enough

have there been any POV images from omnics other than the bastions in last bastion and in gameplay?

[peak escarp]

nope

[sharp trench]

are there any relative cost of a bastion

even if its a security bastion or whatever

[peak escarp]

what do you mean?

[sharp trench]

like for a single bastion unit, how much it costed to produce one off the automated factory line including materials prices and etc

[peak escarp]

no idea

[ivory garnet]

i would assume, the same amount to make a car

but as they evolve, they cost more

[rose ginkgo]

I see comic strips of overwatch lore is there anyplace where I can read it all?

[ivory garnet]

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/media/stories/new-blood-1/

use that

then go back to more stories

or all stories

[rose ginkgo]

Ty

Woah omg ty so much

[keen summit]

Never has been said

[elder wasp]

There are links in the pinned messages as well in this channel

[elder wasp]

I thought the Bastion units were made by the omnium themselves, no?

[grim pawn]

is there lore behind the several kinds of barriers in overwatch that block projectiles but not people 🧐

[worthy rose]

I guess the shield only blocks energy based weapons?