lore-discussion

[patent tiger]

it's a game mechanic, i know i'm reading too much into this but still xD

[cunning ledge]

sombra can also disable soldier from being able to run

[peak escarp]

that's just for gameplay

[cunning ledge]

it's just mechanics

[peak escarp]

and preventing Cassidy from rolling

[patent tiger]

i mean cassidy rolls kinda fast you could argue he's having assistance of some sorts

same as soldier considering his age i guess

[peak escarp]

Soldier is a supersoldier

genetically enhanced

Sombra can't hack genetics

[patent tiger]

that's the thing i don't understand, the lore and the game is so separate

i'm going off of the game cause while i find the lore interesting, i never looked too much into it

honestly i assumed soldier had nanobots in his body or something

[peak escarp]

well there's lots to look at

we have lists in the pins

but the devs made a decision early in development (a bad decision, imo) to keep the game and the lore separate

which I guess they're going back on now since the PvE will bring the lore into the game

[patent tiger]

other than releasing the game, what decision was good in this "series" xD

[cunning ledge]

overwatch is an extremely mechanically focused game so it would be impossible to make them match perfectly

and why bother trying to explain why teams of random people are fighting in random locations

[patent tiger]

true, but again, you could make it so soldier is not genetically enhanced, and mechanically enhanced, and that's why he can be hacked

[cunning ledge]

why limit your design and story potential like that

not worth it

[peak escarp]

the explanations used by other games (training simulation, interplanetary gameshow, etc.) are kinda contrived

[cunning ledge]

junker queen literally just shouts, how would you explain that being hacked

you'd have to make every character a cyborg

[patent tiger]

you don't need to explain everything, but it's better than sombra can hack your legs xD

[cunning ledge]

if you aren't going to explain everything why bother explaining some things

[peak escarp]

a more realistic depiction of Sombra's hacking appears in the Archives missions

[cunning ledge]

then it would just be even more confusing

[peak escarp]

she basically disables Null Sector units, but does nothing against Talon units

[split granite]

It does?

Oh

[peak escarp]

the lore exists to get the players invested in the characters that they're playing

it certainly worked for me

[cunning ledge]

you're seriously asking why they should tell the stories of the characters in the game?

[patent tiger]

ok my message was deleted XD

i mean if you're gonna make lore of a game, why ignore it completely

[split granite]

Well that’s what pve is for

[cunning ledge]

it does not ignore it completely

the characters are still the same

[patent tiger]

i really have my doubts about the pve

[split granite]

What people don’t realise is ow2 was supposed to release all at once but fans outcry and a few other things forced blizzard to release pvp early

[patent tiger]

yeah, everything else isn't tho

[split granite]

That’s why it’s in early access

[cunning ledge]

and if they limited the lore to what the game shows it would be terrible

just random groups of people arriving at locations and shooting each other

what would be the point

[split granite]

Pvp and lore shouldn’t go hand in hand

[patent tiger]

true but we only have the pvp

[patent tiger]

i meant the abilities and personalities

[cunning ledge]

then the game would get a balance change and suddenly the lore doesn't make sense

[patent tiger]

idk junker queen from the animation and the game seem a bit different, just like kiriko

[cunning ledge]

it's an impossible task to make them match perfectly

they both work far better how they do now

[patent tiger]

it is

[split granite]

If you want lore then examine the maps read the books read the comics play the archives missions when they release
The game itself pvp is not meant for lore

[cunning ledge]

they try very hard to show you things like character personalities in the game

[split granite]

Also voice lines character interactions etc

[cunning ledge]

that's why people like the characters and go on to read the lore

[split granite]

This constant need for lore made people want pve which has now fucked the game over and now people are mad about pve Existing

[patent tiger]

true, and it's sad that now that's all behind pay/grind walls

[sonic rain]

lmao

[split granite]

Pretty sure he did

[peak escarp]

why do you care about Genji's junk?

[patent tiger]

honestly i was never interested in the lore, i just wanted to know how all these characters interact with one another

the game should've released with pve from the beginning honestly

[sonic rain]

generally most characters respect each other

[split granite]

There voicelines when spawning in for a lot of characters

[peak escarp]

agreed

[split granite]

I agree however the game wouldn’t be out until 2023

[sonic rain]

or have respected each other before

[patent tiger]

i know and that's one of the things i love about the game

[patent tiger]

it won't be out sadly

[split granite]

It’s likely the game would of launched with 6 new characters but because of constant pressure it forced them to release pvp early

[peak escarp]

because a ball can move in any direction

[patent tiger]

what will be from what i've heard is seasonal drops like the archives

[sonic rain]

yes

[split granite]

This and also it was an upgraded version of his escape pod

[patent tiger]

it probably won't be the same as what they promised

[split granite]

Pve rn is a bit unclear

[patent tiger]

which honestly saddens me alot

[sonic rain]

the lore events /pve will happen when planned

but new content may not always be released for them

yes

[iron osprey]

i want like an overwatch anime in edgerunners style

[split granite]

Honestly it may be better this way
Instead of one massive story and that’s it we’ll get frequent updates to pve

[split granite]

There’s an overwatch show in the works well we think anyway

Nothing is officially confirmed

[patent tiger]

i meant ow1 xD

[patent tiger]

hope so

[split granite]

Genuinely stop

[iron osprey]

ooh

[peak escarp]

@inner oceanrule 4

[sonic rain]

hopefully they pull a league and majke a banger tv show

[patent tiger]

i would prefer have it separate honestly

[split granite]

Oh for sure ow show will be great

[patent tiger]

cause this way it will most likely be attached to this horrible monetization

[iron osprey]

i cant believe were missing loot boxes now

[patent tiger]

i can, i actually didn't hate them all that much

[split granite]

It would of been a full priced game most likely otherwise

[patent tiger]

i mean, sometimes they were infuriating, like opening 4 lootboxes full of duplicates, and the first legendary to be more coins

[patent tiger]

i don't mind that

i get that most people do, but i don't if the game is polished

[split granite]

Honestly we’ll just have to see

[iron osprey]

honestly i feel like it wouldve been better if they made 2 a full priced game with no battle pass and still lootboxes and just have pve included in thati

[split granite]

I predict it will release April

[patent tiger]

i think that's better than what we have now

[split granite]

They couldn’t

[sonic rain]

about releasing with pve, they postponed the game heaps already, and cause they are publicly traded, they have major deadlines for stakeholders

[patent tiger]

ow1 was a game full of soul and personality, ow2's soul and personality are carried over from ow1 and are buried under predatory monetization and all that crap

[split granite]

Not all of this is confirmed and it’s a big unclear however it’s most likely that ow2 was made due to ow monetisation being lacklustre for the kind of game they were making

[patent tiger]

yeah they gave too much for free that's for sure

but now they don't give anything xD

[split granite]

As in they released multiple characters and maps a year and after buying the game once they didn’t receive much money from loot boxes or owl skins to keep the game going

[patent tiger]

so we went from 1 extreme to the other

[sonic rain]

yea they do we get 60 ow coins a week

it would take a eyar to get a skin

[iron osprey]

the only reason overwatch 1 barely stayed alive with the terrible balancing was because people enjoyed working towards skins but now that theres no progression people are gonna lose interest fast with nothing to do even if te game is way better now

[sonic rain]

but y'know

[split granite]

500 coins a week would be fair I think

[sonic rain]

no

that a bit too much

[iron osprey]

like 200 a week

[sonic rain]

maybe like 200-300

[patent tiger]

i never expected mythic skins to be available to f2p users, but nothing? really?

[sonic rain]

max

[split granite]

No coins in battle pass and skins are $20?! 500 is fair

It’d still take 4 weeks to get a legendary

[sonic rain]

the coins in bpass is dumb

but 500 a week

[iron osprey]

200 a week is about a month for a legendary

[sonic rain]

thats 4 weeks

[iron osprey]

thats fair tbh

[sonic rain]

most people just gonna wait

[patent tiger]

they even made souvenirs and weapons charms just to pad out the battlepass, as they're made in the laziest possible way, and everything is overpriced

[sonic rain]

some of the weapon charms are cool

[patent tiger]

i assumed they would start making more mythic skins and you'd need to pay for those

[sonic rain]

... i say back to lore

[patent tiger]

they are, i mean the system is lazy (heroes with multiple weapons only have 1 weapon charm, kiriko's and sigma's charm placement, stuff like that)

[patent tiger]

yes xD

[split granite]

But If you wait a month then you’re either gonna be getting the battle pass or a skin
If there’s skins that release in shop but you want battle pass you’ll still have to spend money

[sonic rain]

fair but, is the soldier on the main screen rn canon?

the t-posing one

[split granite]

I wish

[patent tiger]

i think so

cause it's shitty practise, but people still want the stuff

and no matter if you buy or not the whales will and that's what matters

[split granite]

The kiriko bundle was an absolute rip off however coming from fortnite ridiculous prices for skins isn’t new to me I wish it was better but idm buying skins I like

[patent tiger]

it's not gonna get cheap period xD

[sonic rain]

idm the prices cause i got all the skins i wanted from ow1

[split granite]

If they don’t wanna lower prices then make it easier to obtain coins

[sonic rain]

^

[iron osprey]

heres my solution option 1: buff weekly coins reward to like 250ish option 2: (this is the harder one) bring back lootboxes but make the have lower chances for good stuff or you get them less. but then we keep mythic skins in the battle pass only because fine

[patent tiger]

you'll always have the whales, that buy everything

[drifting viper]

Same people buying stuff probably arent the same people complaining

[iron osprey]

also dont put heroes in batlepass thats so cring and stupid

[sonic rain]

i think

• lootboxes for ow1 content
• shop for ow2 content

easy solution

[iron osprey]

ehhhhhhhhhhh

[peak escarp]

monetization isn't lore

[split granite]

Also true
People buying bp are gonna buy it anyway it’s an amazing price for what you get in it they don’t need heroes in it

[patent tiger]

why do you think gacha games make so much money?

[sonic rain]

ik

[drifting viper]

I thought this was #overwatch

[split granite]

True not sure how we got onto this conversation my bad

[drifting viper]

Didnt see the #lore-discussion

[patent tiger]

isn't it tho? what's the lore implication for overwatch having to fight so much for kiriko to appear (for real tho sorry)

[peak escarp]

it's not

[sonic rain]

back to soldier on the halloween screen being canon

[iron osprey]

oh my lord why are we talking about this in lorelol

[sonic rain]

dudes t-posing

[iron osprey]

how about we talkabout soldier 76 being a gay icon

[drifting viper]

Lurking in the shadows

[patent tiger]

because money makes neuron activation

[drifting viper]

Dilf

[split granite]

I was speaking about this earlier

[sonic rain]

wait is he gay

[split granite]

Yeah

[patent tiger]

he is

why not?

[split granite]

Why is that hard to believe??

[sonic rain]

...

[iron osprey]

yeah

ayo homophobe?

[split granite]

[sonic rain]

huh

[iron osprey]

okand

[patent tiger]

the fact that you didn't know proves that it was well made

[iron osprey]

do you not play the female characters then

what does that even eman

[sonic rain]

i like how its a side thing and didnt make it like the characters whole personality

[split granite]

Actually homophobic remark

[iron osprey]

being gay isnt a personality trait

[patent tiger]

and it was such a little detail on a picture

[sonic rain]

exactly

yeah

[patent tiger]

they didn't blast it on your face

[sonic rain]

its good like that

[split granite]

No it isn’t there’s no such thing as acting gay

[patent tiger]

it's not lmao

[iron osprey]

yeah his backstory isnt this is gay soldier 76 its this is soldier 76 who HAPPENS to be gay

ok then what is acting gay like then

[drifting viper]

[sonic rain]

cause it represents lgb...

[iron osprey]

what does someone who looks gay look like

[patent tiger]

i think he means that gay stereotype?

[sonic rain]

bruh

someone modmail this

[iron osprey]

screw this im getting a mod

[sonic rain]

wear*

[iron osprey]

makeup is awesome tbh

[split granite]

@peak escarp

[peak escarp]

what

[split granite]

This guy being blatantly homophobic

[sonic rain]

...

[peak escarp]

okay?

what am I supposed to do about it

[patent tiger]

i think you're the one that looks like a clown right now...

[iron osprey]

no we just dont want to hear your stupidness anymore

[split granite]

Idk you were mod idk what you can do

[iron osprey]

💀

[patent tiger]

🤡

[peak escarp]

I'm a mod for the subreddit, not the discord

[iron osprey]

AHHAHA

hahaha

LOL

[split granite]

Oh I can’t read my bad 💀

[patent tiger]

oops, they're gone

[drifting viper]

All his messages disappeared

[iron osprey]

BOZO GOT BANNED

[hallow harbor]

🤝 lore time

[peak escarp]

anyway, yes

[iron osprey]

thank you!!!

[sonic rain]

back to soldier being gay

[split granite]

Thank you goat

[peak escarp]

Soldier and Tracer are gay

[sonic rain]

lol

[iron osprey]

ok back to soldier 76 being gay icon

[iron osprey]

ok but like

[split granite]

I was literally saying earlier about how people cry when they find out soldier is gay and there we go perfect example

[drifting viper]

Do we know where in the uk tracer is from

[sonic rain]

dude got the screenshots readyu

[peak escarp]

although Soldier is Forever Alone™️ because he's married to his vendetta against Talon

[split granite]

London

[iron osprey]

yeah its kinda sad

[split granite]

We’re all soldiers now

[drifting viper]

We live in a society

[patent tiger]

i'm so walking on tight ropes

[sonic rain]

unluggy

[patent tiger]

yup there it goes

ok atleast now i know

[iron osprey]

i feel like they kinda gave tracer a bit of that sterotypical fruity personality

[sonic rain]

kinda

100%

not fully tho

[patent tiger]

look, i'm all about protecting agains nsfw stuff

but it's overwatch xD

[sonic rain]

she is just really upbeat

and happy

[drifting viper]

Tracers pretty annoying

[iron osprey]

yeah i find tracer kinda annoyin tbh

[split granite]

Since Overwatch2 I’ve liked tracer a lot more now

[drifting viper]

It fits her though

[worthy rose]

Yeah

[iron osprey]

her voicce and her personalty is like so hapy go lucky itsannoying

[drifting viper]

Because she is in game

[iron osprey]

ok which character in the game has ur guys favorite personality

[patent tiger]

hope widow dies in cannon so she gets deleted from the game

but it would need to be an epic death, she deserves it

[sonic rain]

the amount of characters are everyone in their past dying that are just happy all the time is insane

[drifting viper]

I like zenyatta the most

[peak escarp]

any character who dies in the lore won't be removed from the game

[drifting viper]

His voice is great

[patent tiger]

but they made a petition for brig 😦

[iron osprey]

we dont know that no character has died yet

[split granite]

Not sure cassidy probably my favourite character tbh

[sonic rain]

april fouls says they release lore of a char dying then remove them for the day

.. turns out bastion died in lore

[peak escarp]

the devs literally said that they wouldn't permanently remove a hero from the roster if they died in the lore

[sonic rain]

gone

[iron osprey]

oh

[split granite]

They should be more open to adding overwatch characters that just are dead
I see no harm in doing so

[iron osprey]

i like reindhart's personality he makes bad puns

[patent tiger]

ffs atleast rework her xD

[charred rain]

torj born

[split granite]

Rein is so awesome

[sonic rain]

unless they died before ow ofc

[iron osprey]

i mean if you think about it he did die for a while

[sonic rain]

if they were in ow ye

[patent tiger]

honestly he kinda annoyed me in a sense in ow1

[iron osprey]

also

[sonic rain]

hibernation

[iron osprey]

in like the cinimatic trailer

[split granite]

What was he cooking?

[iron osprey]

timmy mentioned like two other heroes

who we dont know whothey are

[split granite]

Sound quake?

[patent tiger]

cause he especially when he was younger rushed into danger, if you did that in game you'd get melted

[charred rain]

meth?

[iron osprey]

yeah it was soundquake and one other i forgor

[patent tiger]

i mean the cinematic shows that, maybe for that exact reason xD

[split granite]

Sound quake tracer and winton I think that was it?

[sonic rain]

just start changing dva every now and then to one of her teammates

[iron osprey]

no he mentioned oneother ima go check rq

[sonic rain]

i forgo what they were called

[patent tiger]

question: are the cinematics cannon?

[peak escarp]

yes

[sonic rain]

yes

[split granite]

Yeah

Oh except maybe the original is a bit ambiguous

[iron osprey]

yeah it was fusionator and soundquake(Who has like chest missiles)

[patent tiger]

how strong is d.va jesus christ, she's a star craft player

[peak escarp]

not Starcraft

[sonic rain]

what original

[patent tiger]

she got nuked into the ocean and got out of it with a broken arm

[peak escarp]

Mecha Guardian V

[split granite]

That’s it yeah

What’s everyone’s favourite cinematic?

[sonic rain]

they should give us cinematics that are like pre talon/ow

like before widow got taken

[sonic rain]

the reinhardt one

crusade

i think

as a rein main

[patent tiger]

don't really have one, my least favorite is reunion tho

[peak escarp]

my favourite is The Last Bastion

[iron osprey]

dragons

[peak escarp]

so much emotion without any dialogue

[sonic rain]

bastion ong best character

[patent tiger]

cass and ashe's way of talking is kinda annoying

[drifting viper]

Same

No voice acting

[sonic rain]

they did have voice acting tho right?

they just edit it

[drifting viper]

Idk

[sonic rain]

i know in other games they do

[charred rain]

tracer annoying

[patent tiger]

ashe is more honestly, in the cinematic atleast

she can't say a full sentence without an overly dramatic pause

[drifting viper]

Feel bad for bob

[sonic rain]

Chris Metzen

according to google

[fathom oxide]

Ik it’s not a cinematic, but I liked Sigmas origin story a lot. Also Dragons and Zero hour are pretty cool

[patent tiger]

"aparently (cocks weapon) it does"

[split granite]

It is really good im just not the biggest fan of bastion personally

[sonic rain]

i saw a lot of people hating on zero hour the other day

[fathom oxide]

Damn why

[split granite]

They don’t do much with sigma but they go all out when they do

[split granite]

Zero hour is great

[fathom oxide]

They only did one thing lol

[sonic rain]

yeah

thats what im sayin

[split granite]

Well yeah

[iron osprey]

im gonna do an embed fail because talking about image and dont have perms
https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.a52bc5400958adbbf5a1f2bf07af9deb?rik=MVNRFiqy5ApNcw&riu=http%3A%2F%2Fgeekandsundry.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F01%2FOverwatch-Early-Members.jpg&ehk=gdV03Rc4df41Yu%2Fu5TCh2gGmeqsDrfR3WoMNg7oi61A%3D&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0
so these are like some of the original members of overwatch from right to left its someone who we now know is sojourn, mcrassidy, a much younger mercy (im guessing like 17ish), rein, torb, 76, baby pharah, younger ana, reaper, AND THEN THERES THIS ONE DUDE WHO LOOKS REALLYCOOL AND WE STILL DONT KNOW WHO HE IS AND REEEEE

[split granite]

He’s believed to be Turkish

Oh god I can’t remember his name

[iron osprey]

yeah he looks really cool he better be next hero istg

[split granite]

Starts with an E

Him ana torb and rein were the team in operation white dome

[iron osprey]

Emre Sarioglu

[split granite]

I doubt it next hero is a tank and is all but confirmed to be mauga
A credible leaked said it was him and not to mention the teams love for mauga

[split granite]

That’s it

[patent tiger]

considering how ow portraits age she could be 30 on that picture for all we know lmao

[split granite]

No mercy is 17 in that picture

[patent tiger]

i know i'm joking i just find it funny how everyone looks so young in this universe

[sonic rain]

in lore is mercy considered an actual angel or no

[patent tiger]

unless you're a literal old person

[split granite]

True
Well except jack and ana

[split granite]

No she isn’t an actual angel

[kindred nimbus]

Shes just a doctor

[patent tiger]

i can only imagine they age what to us is like 30 years in a year when they reach their 60's or so

[iron osprey]

well mercy is 5 years older than pharah and pharah looks aout 12 in that piccture

[split granite]

Does anyone else think a show about junkrat and Roadhog would be really cool?

[split granite]

Yeah mercy 17-18

[patent tiger]

yes

[sonic rain]

@hallow harbor

[iron osprey]

oh is it the homophobe again lokl

what a loser

[patent tiger]

cope

[drifting viper]

Overwatch

[hallow harbor]

man

[iron osprey]

spending all his time online trying to be homophobic

[patent tiger]

lmao

[hallow harbor]

ty for telling me

[iron osprey]

what a skill issue

[sonic rain]

ty

[patent tiger]

more like a life issue

[split granite]

Remember when that homophobic guy was saying they didn’t care about getting banned? Bro seems a bit desperate to stay

[sonic rain]

it would kinda be all over the place

[split granite]

Fitting for them though

[patent tiger]

true

[sonic rain]

it would be cool tho

[split granite]

That guy seems really petty I’d watch out for any new members

[sonic rain]

roadhog story alone could be a series

its so dark

[split granite]

True but I think I’d rather have it be a comic than a serious Roadhog story be the only ow show

[patent tiger]

i would love to see an overwatch movie, at the same time it would probably not be that great so idk

[split granite]

Maybe a show about the early days of ow
Or something about junkertown

[sonic rain]

i feel like a ow show has to be about a certain group of heroes

[patent tiger]

more cause the amount of characters you need to introduce is too big

[sonic rain]

it cant be all

[split granite]

Honestly anything would be cool besides just picking up the story after zero hour
People always say it’d be cool but that’s the entire focus of the pve I think it would be a mess and a huge waste

[patent tiger]

a show can be about everyone, just not all at once xD

[sonic rain]

it can, but it makes it harder, and you would lose track of what is happening more often

if its just OW v Talon kinda thing

[patent tiger]

oh yeah i imagine it would be something before the game takes place, before them disbanding

[split granite]

Do what league did
Have a show focus on a beloved character and part of the world but not about the the current main story

[sonic rain]

yeah they did a show focused on bilgewater

which is by no means the main areaa

[patent tiger]

i think it's easier in league since the characters don't seem to be as fleshed out there (i may be wrong tho)

[lapis jetty]

[split granite]

A kiriko show could work
But tbh I really would just rather that be in game and comics I honestly do not care much for an entire show on her

[split granite]

I don’t mean make it the exact same
Just have it focus on specific areas that pve probably won’t cover much

[sonic rain]

the kiriko cinematic has real potential to turn into somerthing

[patent tiger]

since ow has so much less characters each one is much more beloved

[patent tiger]

yeah i get it, i just can't see them having them all other than small cameos, and that would be a bit disappointing but it's the most logical way of doing it

[sonic rain]

the league show didnt pick the most beloved characters cause it would be an nsfw mess

[split granite]

If any of you have seen the ow short “the plan” it makes me think a junkertown show would be amazing

[drifting viper]

They could do an episode focusing on a character/characters and it changes so its more like an anthology

[split granite]

[sonic rain]

junkertown has so much lore

[split granite]

Oh that would be good actually

[patent tiger]

that could work, if the episodes are big enough

[split granite]

Oh keep in mind if this show is coming then it’ll be on Netflix

[patent tiger]

oof

[sonic rain]

thats good

[split granite]

Maybe 6 episodes to start? Just guessing there’s no evidence for why I think this

[sonic rain]

6-10

id say

[patent tiger]

not to me cause i don't have it xD

[sonic rain]

depending on how long they have been producing

i didnt tell you this

but just pirate it

[split granite]

If it’s an anthology I think 6 would be a good start to see what people think

[drifting viper]

I don't think an overwatch show will ever happen

I don't have a reason i think this i just dont

[split granite]

Lucio, orisa, junkertown, talon,soldier76 , flashback to early OW years
That would be the 6 episodes imo

[split granite]

I hope it does

There’s evidence to say it exists but wether or not it’ll release we don’t know

[drifting viper]

Didnt know that

Thats pretty cool

Id like a zenyatta genji episode

[patent tiger]

im not saying that ill do it, but if i did i wouldn't say here cause i don't want to be banned

i really hope the pve is good cause i really want to see some story in-game

having to go around to other media just to understand anything of the story is not that great

also, lore people, are the souvenirs references to lore stuff or is it just random crap?

I'm particularly puzzled about that robot brain

[peak escarp]

some of it is references

like the pizza

others are just random

[patent tiger]

wait the pizza is a reference? nani?

[peak escarp]

Jeff once said that every hero likes pineapple pizza

[drifting viper]

Same

[peak escarp]

it's even in the official cookbook

[sonic rain]

once microssoft actually acquire blizzard it prolly will if there was somewhat if a plan

[drifting viper]

But bastion and zenyatta cant eat

[drifting viper]

Neither can orisa

[lusty dawn]

It could

[drifting viper]

Or echo

[patent tiger]

didn't know, nice

[restive kraken]

did they remove brig's ult line ? the swedish one I mean

[patent tiger]

don't think so

they didn't even remove the i'm on fire lines xD

[peak escarp]

they added on fire lines

[worthy rose]

breath air

[restive kraken]

weird, I've been playing her all day long and she just says "rally to me"

or maybe the line is for enemies only

[patent tiger]

true, they removed the mechanic but added new lines xD

[patent tiger]

haven't played bring in a while so i'm not sure

she's not in a really good place at the moment imo

also, now that i think about it, in lore how do they all communicate with eachother? they all speak english? i mean not THAT unbelievable but still

[restive kraken]

"Every single hero in the game that uses a foreign voice line for their ult says the exact same thing you hear in English when on their team.

Brig says rally to me in swedish, Lucio says lets break it down in Portuguese, Hanzo says let the dragons/wolf consume you in Japanese, etc.

They only differ so you can tell enemy from teammate"

oh

playing for years and didn't notice this lmao

[patent tiger]

i noticed cause i have subtitles for critical gameplay

also has it ever been explained how shields work in overwatch?

cause i assumed the friendly projectiles passing through was just a game mechanice, but now i was watching rein's cinematic and no, it happens there too

ok rewatching rein's cinamatic just game me a ton of questions

[split granite]

They have never explained them so it’s not clear how they work

[patent tiger]

did they really just accept rein into overwatch? not only was he not invited but his reckless actions caused the death of the guys that was (don't remember his name)

also did they really leave his body on that throne?

[split granite]

Balderich wanted Reinhardt to take his place
I imagine he explained this to them and that balderich had died and they did a background check to see that rein was a loyal member of the crusaders who worked underneath balderich

[patent tiger]

true but he was still the cause of balderich death basically

still, the body staying there is a bit messed up

i mean we could assume they took him and left the armor but in that case they would probably leave it in a more dignified pose

[patent tiger]

also a background check would probably reveal that reinhardt has (maybe more than once) abandoned his team

[cobalt fog]

what is the melody?

[long jungle]

How can i watch round 2 with the replays? it only shows round 1

[wraith slate]

Sigma

[dreamy epoch]

anthology is the only way to go imo

[alpine pawn]

i couldnt decide if i liked the symm 2 skin or not and it hit me, is more colorful and beautiful and is also less symmetric

[grand wedge]

there is one side that let things go through, the other side does not (in hero of numbani it's mentioned)

[patent tiger]

oh so anything can go through one of the sides, got it

[split granite]

Sup

[shell bough]

Burger

[worthy rose]

What about tracer? Does she start speaking cockney?

'Dropping the ol' steve and tom!'

[ivory garnet]

Is Echo Mina Liao?

havent looked into her much

[peak escarp]

she was made by Dr. Liao

and mimics her personality

but she's not literally Dr. Liao in a robot body

[radiant jay]

We need more lore on echo and sigma

[peak escarp]

Echo and Sigma have more lore than Hanzo, Wrecking Ball, Lucio and Zenyatta

[split granite]

Hello gc

[split granite]

Sigma more than wrecking ball? We know pretty much everything there is to know about the champ

[peak escarp]

I mean by number of appearances

Wrecking Ball has only appeared in his origin trailer

[split granite]

Ah yeah I forgot about code of violence tbh

[peak escarp]

Sigma has his origin trailer and Code of Violence

[split granite]

Is code of violence worth reading?

[peak escarp]

it's a good story

gives a good view of Reaper's character

it's the closest we'll get to an origin story for him

[ivory garnet]

Storm Rising isnt canon right?

[worthy rose]

it is, it led to the battle and capturing of doomfist which heavily impacted the lore

[peak escarp]

all of the Archives missions are canon

[split granite]

Ah ok cool I’ll give it a read then

[haughty warren]

did they make the name "jesse mccree" canon by using it as cassidys alias

[peak escarp]

something like that

[naive ginkgo]

what

[haughty warren]

wik

[lapis jetty]

Is there any sort of knowledge that magic of any sort exists in OW? Like I'm talking about like black magic and auras and such. Like raw, unchained magic.

[timber bridge]

in the lore is it made clear who has the stinkiest feet?

[haughty warren]

this is why you are stuck in silver

[lapis jetty]

Bronze 5 vibes coming from this individual

[wide crag]

What is Sigmas lore?

[haughty warren]

ok so likes hes a gravity scientist and an experiment goes wrong wher ehe is exposed to a black hole for a short time and gives him uncontrollable gravity powers and his mind gets shattered and he is taken into an asylum and talon breaks him out and teaches him how to use his gravity powers for their own good

[wide crag]

Thanks, just wanted some clarity on it because of his trend

[haughty warren]

trend?

[wide crag]

Well the line “what is that melody” feels like a trend to me since I all of a sudden started seeing it everywhere

[haughty warren]

yeah hes completely insane

[wide crag]

😂

[worthy rose]

road hog maybe

[wide crag]

After being exposed to the black hole he went insane and claimed the universe sings to him. Am I right?

[frozen escarp]

id love to hear a soundtrack based on sigma tho, since hes like a composer and all

[random axle]

Does anyone know or think Kiriko knows that Genji’s alive? Like I’m pretty sure she knows that Hanzo killed Genji, and there seems to be animosity between Hanzo and Kiriko during the in game interactions. But I’ve been wondering if she knows he’s alive since the shimadas and Kiriko have been close 🤔

[alpine pawn]

depends if genji used his name in overwatch no?

[random axle]

If that’s the case, how did Hanzo not know he was alive? I mean, Hanzo doesn’t seem like the type to keep up with the news…

[peak escarp]

Hanzo didn't know Genji was alive, so Kiriko probably didn't either

[alpine pawn]

yeah

so orisas spear is hardlight?

[peak escarp]

seems like it

[alpine pawn]

is interesting to see vishkars new tech start to slowly sip into the world

[peak escarp]

not made by Vishkar

Orisa's hard-light caster was made by Luxor

[alpine pawn]

i meant more like the advances being applied, but that brings me who invented hardlight? do we know?

[peak escarp]

Vishkar doesn't have a monopoly on hard light

[alpine pawn]

i just tought they were the vanguard of it, tho numbani and other places are very adavanced yeah

[violet valve]

Doomfist>>>sigma

[keen summit]

theyre the furthest in developing it to further levels

[worthy rose]

Oh yeah definitely

[edgy mountain]

Anyone willing to answer some gameplay questions in my DMs? Plat and would appreciate it!

[bitter kayak]

Is echo mina liao but in like robot form? Or echo justs imitates her like everyone else

[desert yacht]

pretty sure Liao programmed echo who was designed to be very adaptive so when spending so much time around Liao she naturally adapted a lot of her mannerism and such

so closer to the latter

[keen summit]

yeah shes kinda like well, her echo

shes not her

but shes an imitation of what she was and stood for

[bitter kayak]

o okay

[keen summit]

anyways im hyped for next hero

[bitter kayak]

Ouf

Nah thats low-key sad

[keen summit]

storm rising omnic, sanjay or mauga.

[keen summit]

most heroes have pretty sad backstories

[bitter kayak]

Yeah, I think I like the lore more than the game itself

[keen summit]

only a few i could say are kinda eh or just not sad not happy

[keen summit]

welcome to overwatch

[bitter kayak]

Lmfao

[bitter kayak]

Whose Sanjay?

I've heard of the other two but not that one

[keen summit]

i'd say the main ones which come to mind with eh backstories are lucio, junkrat and hell i cant think of another

[keen summit]

talon council member like reaper, moira and doom and member of vishkar like symmetra.

hes in the upperranks of talon and also quite important in vishkar

we've known about him since release basically

hes appeared 3 times, sym comic, masquerade comic and lastly in sym novel

[bitter kayak]

Oh I wasn't updated lmfao, But I like how they're adding alot more to talon and vishkar

[keen summit]

no worries

but i think most heroes do have tragic backstories, even the happy go lucky ones like tracer, mei and bap all have really sad backstories

[bitter kayak]

They always got to add that, The happy characters that no one really expects to have such depressing trauma

To be honest

Alot of these characters are insanely emotionally strong and sort of stable?

[keen summit]

i meaaaan

[bitter kayak]

Personally, I would've quit

[keen summit]

reaper just is angry endlessly for example

[keen summit]

but yes thats the point, showing how everyone can be a hero and showing and spreading a hopefull message

the villains show the opposite side of it.

doomfist is a person who is obsessed with the "end justifies the needs" view and has a fighter type of look on the world. Cuz hes right in some way but hes not doing it in the right way

most talon heroes truly btw are morally gray which i love

doom: a good goal and wants humanity to improve but has bad actions and is to radical.
widow: now a killer but is she really to blame when she is brainwashed to do so?
sombra: doesnt work for anyone just wants knowledge, in for herself ONLY
moira: fucked up expiriments but for the sake of science and progress, if nobody else will do it then she will
Reaper: endless anger through a troubled past
sigma: lost his mind and now with talon has a nice lab to work in

its a very interesting concept. ofcourse we can agree at their core they arent good people but they feel realistic cuz they aint just evil, they have logical human reasons even if it isnt really a good thing

[bitter kayak]

Yeah, I agree. I really like how blizzard writes the characters and don't make them so golly and stuff, they make them have a 'valid' reason to do what they're doing. I never gotten into overwatch lore since I was just in for the game, but I listen to the interactions and voice lines and always wonder "Tf do you mean" y'know? It's like a whole new ass world for me and shit makes sense now (besides from the fact that somehow talon and overwatch work together)

[keen summit]

yeah the ingame team ups arent lore canon

[bitter kayak]

But asked a question long time ago and game not canon

[keen summit]

yeah.

some interactions are though

well most

[bitter kayak]

Yeah

[keen summit]

if you have any you have questions about, i know the general lore of most

[bitter kayak]

Oh thank you

[keen summit]

otherwise a lore warlord can always come to help too

[bitter kayak]

I have a question

Why doesn't Lucio like sym?

[keen summit]

vishkar took over his city. He hates vishkar and sym is with it. Also he stole the weapon his dad made for vishkar

he pushed out vishkar after

[grand wedge]

Because she works for Vishkar and Lucio dad worked for them and Vishkar stole his invention

And then Vishkar had hold on Lucio’ favela & people so yeah

That’s a lot

[keen summit]

lucio lore is very neglected

[grand wedge]

Yup that he is

[keen summit]

imagine if he knew about talon and vishkar working together

[paper gazelle]

I'll read it but I did hear that people complained about it

[grand wedge]

Hanzo and Lucio are the one with less lore now

[keen summit]

yep yep

hanzo is so weird he has almost none

[paper gazelle]

For now yea but once PvE releases

Not anymore ig?

[grand wedge]

He has Dragons. And that’s it

[keen summit]

eh everyone will be seen

[bitter kayak]

I can't wait for the new abilities that's going to be for pve

Looks fun

[keen summit]

yeah

and comic appearance

[bitter kayak]

Lmfaooao

[paper gazelle]

You're not wrong, though think about it's possible some may be featured more than the others. But we'll see

[keen summit]

lucio also appeared with orisa in her novel

[grand wedge]

That gives zero lore except that he likes cake xD

[keen summit]

yep!

[paper gazelle]

Ah yeah that too, thanks for reminding me haha

[keen summit]

based though

looking back at the comic feels so nostalgic now

knowing so much more now, soldier looking at the picture with him and viktor..

[grand wedge]

But there is like a 99% chance that we’ll have a PVe mission to free Kiriko dad and kick the Hashimoto out of Hanamura/Kanezaka so Hanzo will have lore at some point

[grand wedge]

Vincent

[keen summit]

ah ye bad at names

[grand wedge]

But it’s more a reflection of the things he sacrificed to get there… being a vigilante and his organization burned to the ground

No wonder he is a bitter old man

[keen summit]

i just want sanjay man

i also love how different moira was from first design we saw

that in the back seems to be moiras first design. It has the metal plate over the eye and also the hair

[paper gazelle]

Mm yes the same comic where I thought Brigitte was supposed to be the oldest child

[split granite]

Hello gc

[split granite]

He would be cool as a hero tbh
Another support hopefully

[keen summit]

ehhhhhhh i'd imagine him being a tank

but he could work in all roles honestly

you could make him a better thought out version of original sym with the shield giving

[paper gazelle]

Ig he'd need a suit then

[keen summit]

yeah he could though, i mean we have zarya too

[split granite]

From what we’ve seen of him though he doesn’t really seem to be someone who gets into fights
I don’t see tank or dps being likely just from what we know

[keen summit]

we dont know alot about him at all

he could also be an efi type character, aka a catalyst for another hero

but he could legit just use hardlight in cool ways and keep in mind hes still part of the direction doom wants which is conflict which vishkar also creates

[split granite]

True we don’t know an whole lot but he has appeared in a comic before and just judging from that comic it doesn’t seem like he’s a fighter as he only uses violence as a last resort

[keen summit]

even that we dont know, hes been seen in comics: sym one and masquerade, in moira origin story and in sym novel. hes very prevelant. Also hes never said anything about violence, unlike maximillian who i still think can be a hero aswell but would need alot of explaining. Sanjay we dont know his reasons yet

[paper gazelle]

I mean you could kinda say he is for Sym

[keen summit]

he isnt.

at all

sym isnt defined by him. Sanjay's thing is that he is working with talon and vishkar, vishkar already isnt a good group but then also the tech he has can help talon + vishkar's hold on places can also help talon

[worthy rose]

What's roadhogs lore

[paper gazelle]

Ah

[paper gazelle]

Sorry 😭

[keen summit]

well in short he hated the omnics so he blew up an omnium, which welllll caused a big explosion and most likely made the wasteland as unhabital as we know it.

[grand wedge]

god those new biographies I swear...

[keen summit]

yeah + no age anymore

[grand wedge]

and no name!

[keen summit]

yeah!

and height is also gone i think

ah nah that never was there

[grand wedge]

I really hope it's because the have a big plan incoming...

[keen summit]

honestly i doubt it

[grand wedge]

because that's really laughable RN

[keen summit]

it just feels like they redconned ages

[grand wedge]

feels like they scrap the biographies so they can retcon anything they want...

[keen summit]

kiriko should be around 30 yet keeps talking about being a kid

[keen summit]

ikr

[grand wedge]

she is 20, the Shimada are in their 36-39... ahahah

[limpid agate]

Its a mess right now

[keen summit]

exactly, but in her origin story she didnt seem 15 years younger than genji

cuz genji is 35

she looked like what 5-6

[grand wedge]

it can be "explained" by the origins being her own memories, and let me tell you, kids have no idea how ages work lol

[keen summit]

so in theory in that story, genji was fucking 20 and then still had a bowlcut etc

[keen summit]

kids often see people who are slightly older as WAYYYYYYY older

aka a person who is 20 feels so old

[grand wedge]

my son is 7 - he thinks teenagers are kids lol xD

[keen summit]

so even just knowing genji is 20 would make her think hes way older

[keen summit]

i remember always thinking people are wayyy older

i also (17) get called sir alot

by kids

[grand wedge]

i ask my 5 year old how old i am, he told me "ten" xD

[keen summit]

yeah thing is they usually think people are younger, so when you tell them theyre say 20 they see it as very old

[grand wedge]

ahah i guess it depends

but anyway, they messed something - and retconning the shimada ages would really create a big big mess of retcon

[quartz tangle]

I have a lore question guys.
How can it be that on all the Cinematics, when we get flashbacks of old Overwatch, we see Young Ana/Soilder (Maybe in their 30's or 20's or something idk) but we also see young Tracer and very old Reinhardt....... how it this possible? Like isn't in Overwatch Reinhardt and Soilder both like in their 60's or 70's? But in the Flashback Reinhardt was alwasys old xD

[grand wedge]

because they messed up

and they acknowledged it

[keen summit]

well tbf i never expected genji to be 35

[quartz tangle]

ah okay xD

[keen summit]

some people just look older when theyre not old

[grand wedge]

that's because people look at his green hair skin and don't think he can be older now that is face is always covered

[keen summit]

yeah + some old voicelines made him seem younger

like the arcade ones

[grand wedge]

i mean.. i'm around Genji's age - and i play video games so...

that's on younger people who think adults can't be competitive on video games :p

it's the new Kiriko voicelines that bother me a lot...

[quartz tangle]

why?

[grand wedge]

because she is 20 when the shimada are 36+ and yet she talked to them like they parted way yesterday and not if they spent 12+ years appart...

[quartz tangle]

Yeah the Age thing is very weird

Sad that they didn't have it in mind

[grand wedge]

i don't like that they didn't take it into consideration, at all... how could they missed that??

maybe we'll have an explanation, maybe not... but it's too weird for me to ignore

[quartz tangle]

Tbh messing with Kiriko and Shimada Age is SOMEWHAT Acceptable. Not okay but acceptable. But Soilder and Reinhardt? Like what is Reinhardt like 140 now ? xD

[grand wedge]

And if you look at the JQ ? They didn't messed that up : she has her cinematic skin ( young - won the fight that made her Queen) and her in game model : 10+ years older, an other look and she does look older

[keen summit]

yeah, talks about being a kid all the time, her voice doesnt sound very young ngl, in lore she should be around 25-30

[grand wedge]

for Kiriko? Same model in the cinematic & in game - so not much tiime passed - the age gap not shown in the origins, etc etc.. big mess

[keen summit]

tbh

i just dislike kiriko as a character

like she had the first cinematic i actually DISLIKED

cuz she has some of the most cringe lines

[grand wedge]

don't get me started on the mom just bawling her eyes out at the end, cringe... ><

[keen summit]

i dont like saying cringe but i cant take a person seriously who just says "im gonna kick every one of you, in the face" and the na fucking bif font appears about face kicking time, like HOW AM I SPPOSED TO NOT BE IN PAIN

[grand wedge]

Asa is supposed to be the protector of Kanezaka and supposedly should have go and met the Yokai to make them stop facing the Hashimoto? and she just saw her daughter just doing that? While her hursband is still an hostage?? WTF

[keen summit]

or the unlogical shit of "i dont believe in the fox spirit" the over the top foreshadowing with "you think the fox spirit will protect you?!"

the whole donut line just hurts

[quartz tangle]

Yeah that the ma doesn't believe in the fox spirit is really kinda illogical, if you think about that she teaches Hanzo and Genji how to summon Dragons xD

[keen summit]

everything kiriko says just sounds like an OC

[grand wedge]

she teached them how to use a sword, not how to summon dragons

[keen summit]

and them explaining her as a badass but soft character, the badass part just doesnt exist imho. the teleporting is cool but she doesnt have the spunk

[quartz tangle]

Also it is kinda strange, that she is worried about kiriko at all, when she trained kiriko, because even if armed, they are just "bandits".

[keen summit]

its more, her grandma had a fox spirit

like how would she not atleast KNOW it exists

[grand wedge]

her grandma used the power of the fox spirit. I don't think you "own" a fow spirit

[quartz tangle]

But Hanzo said only a shimada can control the dragons.... doesn't this imply that since she trains people to become a shimada, that she also is one/knows how to summon the dragons?

[keen summit]

yeah but they worked together

[keen summit]

no she doesnt, its most likely in the family

[grand wedge]

Shimada, as in, the blood line I think

[quartz tangle]

Yeah okay, can be of course

[keen summit]

so in other words if mercy and genji get a kid theres another dragon

[quartz tangle]

I didn't know shimada is a last name/Clan name. I thought its some kind of title/rank

[keen summit]

get to it

[keen summit]

its their last name

thats how most clans existed in japan

still some exist

but its just the last name

i just really dislike kiriko cinematic

[grand wedge]

oh, then, now you know 🙂 Their father was Sojiro Shimada, we don't knwo who the mother was

[keen summit]

the screaming too, like sorry but thats just loud = funny humor

[quartz tangle]

I liked the dude from the Dragons cinematic, who was also in the kiriko one xD

[keen summit]

thats the only funny thing imho

[quartz tangle]

and I liked when Kiriko went glowy eyes, this was also cool imo

And I liked the plushie xD

Its kinda sad that they didn't showed blood, when Grandpa was shot

Im fearing, they want to make everything more child friendly now

[keen summit]

they neverdo

[quartz tangle]

Reinhardt eye for example

[keen summit]

they always did have it like that

[keen summit]

yes but that still was censored quite a bit

fun fact reinhardt cinematic is the only time i think blood and actual death was shown

cuz balderich wound too

even then its not alot its more like just a scar

[grand wedge]

the blade was kinda hot, so cut/burn at the same time

[keen summit]

and baledrich only had coolant leaking

[grand wedge]

yeah, so you don't see the blood

[keen summit]

kinda? very. it was most likely cottorized

[sonic rain]

its to make it so that you can show it to a larger audience

[grand wedge]

yeah, that's what i meant (sorry english is not my first language)

[keen summit]

i know

but just pointin out that no overwatch isnt turning soft now

it always was like this and even activly avoided killing most of the time

[sonic rain]

its prolly good like this aswell

[keen summit]

yeah

only things allowed to get beatup, shot etc are omnics

they get actual fucked up shit happen that on people would be gore but well cuz theyre bots its allowed

[quartz tangle]

I mean imagine someone cutting a human hand in half, like Genji did with the big bot in Zero hour xD

Splating Blood everywhere, dude crying, finger on the floor xD

Or someone tearing the arm off a human, like Balderich did with this robot xD

Would be funny tho xD

[keen summit]

or just the throwing knives into a person's shoulder

[quartz tangle]

yeah with the kiriko trailer

[keen summit]

or hanzo shooting an omnic in the chest

thing is normal humanoid omnics like zen are allowed to die while most humans arent

[quartz tangle]

I mean tbf, if you would want to do Superhero fighting realistic, you would need to go the way like the Invincible show did with Omniman xD

[keen summit]

well yeah but also we see their true strength alot

like hanzo curving an arrow to hit only the phone but then i go ooooh he doesnt want to kill but HE DOES KILL THE OMNIC

[sonic rain]

was the kiriko cinematic the only one where someone got shot liek close up?

[quartz tangle]

I mean it does kinda make sense tho

Humans can experience pain / Have the will to live, while most robots in Overwatch do not

We know Zen and maximilian do have a personality and a free will I think

But most of the others, are just bots

Or like the dude from the Hero cinematic said "just a bucket of bolts" or something like that xD

[vestal glade]

[sonic rain]

the robots like think for themselves but cant feel obv

they would have emotions though

as you can see in 'alive'

[quartz tangle]

Dunno bout omnics, like the one who got beat up in the Hero cinematic, but I think all the bastions, and the orisia looking like things from the Honor and Glory Cinematic, are just bots without emotions or something

[sonic rain]

omnics no

i dont think they are really ai

bastion shows emotion

toward Ganymede

[sonic rain]

i do tthink they are kinda stern/set in their ways that why we dont really see much emotion

[keen summit]

false, most actually do feel and think

[keen summit]

thats basically omnic discrimination, junkers do it too and thats why null sector rises up

[keen summit]

its hinted at that not all, but alot are now indipendant thanks to the iris, which most likely is an universal will

[grand wedge]

The Omnics (well, the Shambali) belive that Aurora sacrifice gave all omnic sentience and free will

The Iris is a concept of reaching a certain level of being, that you can transcend existence, and that's when you reach the Iris, and that within, all are one.

[grand wedge]

In Honor and Glory, those were war machines made to destroy humanity. The other omnics (humanshaped like) were just "gone" during the war

they came back "changed" when the war ended

like BOB (that's what we are told in Deadlock Rebels)

[drifting viper]

Bastion has feelings

His voice line interactions in game show him be happy, worried, disappointed

[dreamy epoch]

Sanjay definitely feels like more of an enabler to me

[inland matrix]

[keen summit]

they could easily make him work tbf

we dont even know if hes against fighting

[willow torrent]

HELLO GOBLINS AND GHOULS

[azure wren]

Anyone EU how wants to play ranked?

[grand wedge]

Wrong channel for this, this is to talk about the lore of Overwatch.

[azure wren]

okay

sorry

[paper gazelle]

You've explained your position pretty well and I do agree with at least some of your points so I won't refute a lot
But imo in general I liked it for the action and music (and I ofc cannot rule out the fox plushie), though there are ofc the absurdities (but I can say the same for the other cinematics). And I've seen worse
And the lines... well yeah they did give me the "ehh" feeling but I wouldn't say they're so cringe... I've heard some ppl say some lines are cringe but that didn't stop them from disliking the cinematic overall

[dense nebula]

Her music is some of the most generic modern themeless stuff I’ve heard in Overwatch

[paper gazelle]

Then ig I have generic modern themeless taste then lol

[proven obsidian]

general chat best lore (in-game ow1)

[sonic rain]

imo the kiriko cinematic was almost one of the best

[heady sand]

who has best cinematic

or top 5

if u dont wanna start an argument

[sonic rain]

i coudlnt really put a top 5

[peak escarp]

The Last Bastion is the best

[sonic rain]

but my fav is the rein one

[bitter kayak]

Live with honor

[sonic rain]

die with glory

[alpine pawn]

i love junker queens unapologetically

[gleaming patio]

:)

[brisk tusk]

i feel like tracer/widow cinematic was really good

[sonic rain]

100%

they are just like polar opposites making them such good enemies

[brisk tusk]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

i felt like you could feel the tention

and like the ending was even better :>>

[sonic rain]

yeah def

this the 'alive' one ye

[brisk tusk]

e

ye

[sonic rain]

it was a very good cinematic

[brisk tusk]

whats ur fav @sonic rain

[sonic rain]

my fave is the reinhardt one

'crusade' i think it is

its honor and glory

im dumb

it came out with the crusader skin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQfk5HykiEk

[brisk tusk]

oh shit

i love that one

i love the whole situation

[sonic rain]

honestly blizzard has very strong story and cinematic writers

there are so many good ones

like we look at other games and they just make it work so well

like with the starcraft opening scene

and all the wow opening scenes

[brisk tusk]

i think the lore in general by blizzard is so good

eveyrthing just connects some way

[sonic rain]

yeah they def put a lot of thought into it

[hard pulsar]

I really like what they did with Sigma

[sonic rain]

such a sad story

i hope they develop it more

[hard pulsar]

Yeah he needs to learn the truth about Talon

[sonic rain]

he needs to learn what the melody is

lol

[delicate knot]

Im sure its been asked
but
If Bastion is the "Last Bastion"
How can there be 2 in a match?

[vital spire]

fax

[sonic rain]

hahaha

that other one is a random omnic

thats a look a like

[delicate knot]

In Last Bastion, when hes walking back into the forest, there shouldve been a random bastion that just wiggles or something to give a somewhat explanation

It keeps me up at night

[sonic rain]

lol

woulda been funny af

turns out isnt the last bastion

[worthy rose]

Guys

What’s Genji’s dragon’s name

[delicate knot]

garrett

[worthy rose]

ew no

It’s a girl

[sonic rain]

soba

[delicate knot]

garretta

[sonic rain]

according to google

[worthy rose]

bruh

[sonic rain]

and hanzo is ame and arashi

[peak escarp]

Genji's dragon doesn't have a name

or a gender

[delicate knot]

Oh didnt see the serious tag
srry

[peak escarp]

it's just a spirit dragon

[worthy rose]

Nah I checked

No pp

[peak escarp]

what

[worthy rose]

what

[alpine pawn]

i wonder how much in the internet till my brain becomes mush too

[ivory garnet]

Genji’s dragon doesnt have a name, but his dragon spirit might have one

[dreamy epoch]

favourite short hmmm

i have a real soft spot for the first one because "psst, whatcha looking at"

removing dragons from the standings I really like Alive because it genuinely has a good fight scene showcasing abilities well and tracer widow banter is fun to me

kiriko is sitting around the middle
i like the actual combat and feel like although it borders on the side of humorous it's still really detailed

i blame the hashimoto for that too

I just don't think they really developed the character's relationship with her mom as much as I thought would happen

[haughty kestrel]

Steel Ball Run > Overwatch lore

[ivory garnet]

w

[timber bridge]

In overwatch lore does roadhog have the biggest cheeks? He’s pretty caked up but the silverback definitely is a close second and maybe even reinhart is a runner up. not entirely sure tho Id like someone with deeper knowledge to enlighten me

[grand wedge]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[willow torrent]

I have learned something

[steep pond]

I think so

[drifting viper]

Someone will probably say this is shitposting but

If soldier 76 and reaper are 60 and its 2075

Its likely that they played fortnite before

[muted basalt]

prob

[sonic rain]

maybe one of them is you

[void gull]

In OW, Why do only Japanese people use Magic while rest of the world has to rely on science ?

[plush vigil]

Probably because it comes from the "Spirit." It's a cultural representation of Japan, so I imagine that's why.

[ivory garnet]

spirit guardians are a big cultural aspect in Japan. Especially in feudal times which Genji, Hanzo, and Kiriko’s family were based out of

[drifting viper]

Zenyattas magic

I never realized that only those characters are the only ones who use magic in this game

[alpine pawn]

more than you would imagine for a sci-fi game

[split granite]

Hey

[rotund ermine]

[split granite]

Yokai stems from Japan and are mythological creatures from their folklore
Dragons probably have more of a Chinese connection however they’re commonly used in Japanese mythology too

If you hate the game why are you talking in the discord server?

[sonic rain]

yes, yes lore

[split granite]

Ok cool

[sonic rain]

@gleaming patio

[split granite]

This guy joined thinking he was gonna “troll” us I imagine
Not working out too well for him lmao

[dreamy epoch]

most sane overwatch player
anyways

[worthy rose]

does anyone have any good videos to watch for lore ? i wanna watcg complete lore stories for specific characters but all of them are from 4 or 5 years ago

[peak escarp]

https://youtu.be/-aPY1OaEPjs

this one is a good overview of all the lore, but there aren't really videos for individual heroes... yet

[worthy rose]

ive found good ones by tgn and i want something like that but updated

[peak escarp]

I'm helping SVB with the research for videos on individual heros' lore

[worthy rose]

lmk when it comes out id love to watch

[median bronze]

guys add my snap "atrobabbe" babbe im a egirl wanting to play 😄

[fathom oxide]

No stfu

[tame zealot]

Junker queen and road hog are brother and sister?

[peak escarp]

no

[mellow flicker]

You could watch the cinematic and that would be enough to know that lol

[sullen pollen]

1 on 1 I could take mei

[lofty sonnet]

Is sombra and Sigma are good person in talon? because their interaction so cute

only villain in that team is moira

[fathom oxide]

They’re all villians, Sigma is more of a victim since he doesn’t know Talon is influencing him

[lofty sonnet]

but at least sombra there to help sigma

[fathom oxide]

I’m guessing you’re going off the voice line? Voice lines aren’t canon I think

Also pretty sure sombra is evil in other ways but she cares about Sigma

[lofty sonnet]

she's neutral i think

[fathom oxide]

Actually yeah, she seems to be doing whatever’s best for her, not for the team

[lofty sonnet]

sombra only hate moira (for her experiment)

while moira hates sigma so much for such annoying

every sigma talk
moira: STFU

[fathom oxide]

Damn I actually feel bad for Sigma, even Ana tells him to shut up

But again, I don’t think voice lines in spawn are canon

I may be wrong tho idk

[lofty sonnet]

"It thrils me to put aside my preparations and humor your brilliant inquiries doctor. it thrills me."

from moira to sigma

[fathom oxide]

Yeah Ik, I main sigma so I’ve heard all his interactions

[lofty sonnet]

while sombra just really good friend of sigma

[fathom oxide]

Sombra is a real one

[lofty sonnet]

and widowmaker voice looks back to his original past
Amelia?

Moira calls her Lacroix

oh every talons member hates moira for her crazy experiment 😂

[fathom oxide]

Moira is the most evil one

[lofty sonnet]

sigma is the neutral

he's just normal person

[peak escarp]

Jamieson Fawkes and Mako Rutledge

[lofty sonnet]

Sombra: "The boss was talking to Moira the other day. Kept looking over at you."
Sigma: Ah, yes! He wanted the doctor to run some "non-invasive" tests."
Sombra: Ay... you come to me if they try anything okay?"

[grand wedge]

We have been told that they were « what if » the hero would work together. So Doomfist meeting Hanzo seems unlikely, but they would have these kind of back and forth if they were to do a mission together

That’s why the Sombra/Sigma are canon. They talk about canon things and Sombra is keeping an eye out on him

[fathom oxide]

Ah that makes sense

[peak escarp]

OR15

[grand wedge]

OR-15

[peak escarp]

OR14

[grand wedge]

I think he will

It would be a shame if they didn’t use his discoveries to make weapons or use him in combat or something

(I also hope that Sombra will get him out at some point)

[hasty cobalt]

@ashen sinew

[grand wedge]

!!shitposting

[twilit nacelle]

Shitposting will result in a loss of access.

[worthy rose]

Just the monthly prostate exam

[lofty sonnet]

Talon member
Villain = moira
Innocent = Baptiste and sigma i guess

[grand wedge]

Wasn’t you that asked yesterday already?

She was a pro gamer

[worthy rose]

Gamer girl?

[grand wedge]

There, happy with the answer?

[worthy rose]

Dva is an e-gurl

Did you just assume her sexuality?

[grand wedge]

Baptiste is ex-talon now