#lore-discussion
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Doomfist, Genji, and Sojourn are all cyborgs
what were doomfist enhancements apart from his shotgun and arm?
soldier was part of the super soldier program with reyes yes
improved healing and all that
Crusader Reinhardt doesn’t seem to wear a helmet. However, after losing his vision in one eye, would this possibly be the reason to why he wears one now with overwatch 1 Reinhardt skin?
super soldier program thats it
No.
He doesn't wear one in Uprising or present day either
to be fair, tech enhancements can break or be destroyed
those with the supersoldier enhancements can probably take a bullet or two
Are you talking about Rein? The only super soldiers are Reaper and Jack
Rein is not enhanced
Reaper without his weapons isn't much of a threat
he's just edgy
and mist
wellll hmm
he didn't need his shotguns to take down that guy in infiltration
what if he punches you, i feel like he has knuckle dusters somewhere
he's still got superhuman strength
i’ll keep on saying it, I feel like reaper’s power still has much room to grow
but compared to some other heroes who don't need their weapons...
he could learn how to make part of his body into the shadow, whole other parts can remain physical
To look at this list and talk about them without weapons.
Sigma's powers need no armaments at all. He can kill you just the same with or without the orbs.
Doomfist, Genji, and Sojourn have enhanced cybernetic strength.
The rest dont matter as much in a fist fight offensively
In terms of strength
So about that Sojourn novel. I saw ppl on Twitter who preordered it got it. Anyone know anything about lore reveals?
me when sigma just
Sigma is arguably the strongest hero in the game.
Sigma, Winston, Symmetra, or Orisa.
Symmetra is a wildcard
Sojourn got a whole ass novel?
yep
Reaper and soldier yes
so do Ashe and Orisa
i need to read the ashe one
I’m pretty sure if Sigma wanted to, he could literally rip you apart via gravity
Hi is Moira lgbt
yes
Please 🙏🏾🥺
😁
Yay because now in my fanfic..my story can happen
no
isnt the only lgbtq tracer?
Wat
moira isnt lgbtq, pretty sure only tracer and maybe mei are
Tracer and Soldier
what is soldier?
Soldier is gay
oh, who has he shown attraction to or how do we know this?
ohhh thats cool
???
How do you know his bf could be an old war buddy
I only make female LGBT fanfic so I'm kinda disappointed ngl, I don't think tracer is gay
Thanks for all the messages about “Bastet”!
Jack and Vincent were in a romantic relationship many years ago. Both identify as gay. ❤️
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What the
Good thing we don’t have to worry about fanfic here
i hope vincent is having a nice day
W
tracer def has the most gay energy out of everyone
always 💯
Solider 76 is hot
reaper better
Where the lore at homeboy
the lore is in the pins
he slays
don't follow random youtube links
he wanted strictly reaper lore
wheres his bf now
dead prolly
idk, soldier lives by himself now pretty sure
u think jack and reyes had a lil sum goin on👀
no
well yea hes pretty scarred and scary
Reyes had a wife
no, reyes is nothing but straight
curious. All the surveillance power in the world. I bet Gabe
would have put a Blackwatch agent on him if you asked,”
Ana said.
Jack glared at her.
“Okay, touchy subject.”
Jack laughed. “He got married. They’re very happy. I’m
happy for him.”
Ana was unconvinced. In the early days, Jack talked about
him often, floating a dream that the war would end quickly,
and maybe he’d have a chance to return to a normal life.
But a normal life was never the reward for people like us.
“Vincent deserved a happier life than the one I could
give him.” Jack sighed. “We both knew that I could never
put anything above my duty. Everything I fought for was to
protect people like him… That’s the sacrifice I made.”```
Vincent got married
cass didnt like reaper that much due to his plan changing
no i meant jack and cass
yeah, cassidy
no
damn tho vince just left my buddy jack
YES
we all know that cowboy aint all as ranch hand as he seems
HIS NAME IS CASSIDY AND HIS SURNAME WAS JESSE
lol im jkjk
im bored
Jesse McCree
what
nothing
Cassidy is his surname
“well if it aint Jessie McCree”
you think ashe and mcCree...👀
no
ok ill shut up
pretty sure ashe and mccree had a brother and sister relationship
they flirted, but they never had a relationship
i never even knew they explored anyone elses sexuality other than tracers
with her gf emily
next year
it’ll prolly be like retribution missions
genji is luigi ofc🤣🤣🤣
wait they had pve in the past?
they had event type things
heroes in straight relationships: Reaper, Torbjorn, Ana, Widowmaker, Genji, Mercy
heroes in gay relationships: Tracer, Soldier
genji x mercy right?
yes
genji went from being nearly dead (or presumed dead) to bagging his healer, thats crazy 💀
yeah thats true, I just wonder what the pve is gon be about
hope its more Overwatch based than Talon based
Genji + Kiriko = best “big brother little sister” relationship?
that would have to include Hanzo
they aren’t biological siblings tho (shimuda and kiriko)
they're like siblings, but not actual siblings
Why did hanzo kill genji
because Genji wouldn't help run the family business
(the family business was a criminal empire)
ah ok
@worthy rose
What is up with sigma and his liking for lucio’s music?
Also during his ult he says something with melody?
Idk
Does sigma ever say anything Dutch?
yeah
He says alot. His ult he says "het universum zingt voor mij"
Sometimes start of the match he goes "dit gaat leuk worden" he has alot more but those are 2 examplrs
Very few heroes have zero lines in their language. Examples of these are torb and rein
Im ngl though ow does it really well cuz they dont make a big deal out of it. Its all donr as it should, like its normal. Not people pointing out about it its always for a reason.
Cuz imho there should be a reason ro reveal such a thing. For example with soldier it isbt just "yo im gay" its to show what he had to leave behind for overwatch
exactly
And with tracer it shows that even though shes in danger of getting lost in time sge still lives in the moment
Every character doesnt just have "this is their sexuality" like in apex which imho starts getting annoying, r6 does it more in overwatch way where its often a small part
Imho the best way to do it and to spot that its done well is does it still feel right if you did the straight version. Say if its activly pointed out "look theyre gay" it would feel hella weird if they said with straight cuz that isnt a minority but say if ana said instead of vincent a name like Anne it wouldnt change the message of it and the point of the exchange
This is why i just trust ow really well with representation
Oh I always thought he says something with synchronize
But “het universum zingt voor mij!” Does sound more logical
Weird how I have such a hard time hearing Dutch voice lines…. Even though I’m Dutch 💀💀💀
what is that melody?
Het universum zingt voor mij
The universe sings to me
i came across an edit on tiktok and it was a voiceline between Mercy and Reaper, it went
Mercy: Im not giving up on you Reyes
Reaper: I wish you would
Is this an actual voiceline? I find it quite sad that Mercy wants to help but Reaper seeks revenge or he gave up himself
sigma voice lines go hard no cap
and im pretty sure it is reaper but im not 100% on it
i know Reyes is Reaper, but I cant find anywhere that has this voiceline
so it stumped me
hmmmm if it is in the game thats kinda dope and sad at the same time
man i just want a torb animated short 😦
W short
yeah its pretty sad
k but whats the relation between lucio and orisa thx
i think lucio knows the girl that built orisa but im not 100% on that either
friends pretty sure
ye but how did they meet
idk, didnt read much up on Lucio’s lore
yea i havent really read up on his lore tbh
Lmao sigmas Dutch voice lines 😂
Wie boter op z’n hoofd heeft moet uit de zon blijven
(I don’t even know what that means)
I mean the butter will melt in the sun
Or something
De messen zijn geslepen
Well since sigma is Dutch it means that he can ride a bike
That’s just how it works
You’re Dutch= you can ride a bike
(You literally get biking lessons at school and get a biking exam)
it means basically if you cant take criticism dont give any.
because if you have butter on your head, you shouldnt stand in the sunlight because it will melt. So you shouldnt criticize without being being able to take any yourself
It was mostly revealed through the novel: hero of numbani which follows orisas creation story and what she accomplishes within her first month or so. Efi, her creator, is noticed by Lucio online and invites her and some friends to a concert. There they fight doomfist together and eventually win, Lucio keeps in touch with efi and her friends evidently through an interaction he has with orisa in game
yeah efi also already was a fan of lucio while working on orisa
Yeah, but Lucio was only aware of her existence after seeing what orisa was doin
yeah ofcourse but thats the fun part in ow1 orisa talked with lucio only about efi being a fan
I never heard a Dutch person say that (I’m Dutch)
Then again
🤷
yeah its an very old saying
Why are some omnics purple and some red/orange
Why are some tanks green and some tanks beige?
those omnics are from a certain org. Null sector is purple white grey basically. the orange ones were pretty sure more mass produced during omnic crisis but i dont know for sure but basically where the main cause of the omnic crisis. The new omnic crisis is lead by well null sector
why is and genji
what
are ana and reinhard dating or something??
no.
I'm a new player, can someone tell me in short or just tell me what happened between moira, reaper and widowmaker?
Yes hold on
As for widowmaker, her husband was an overwatch agent who talon wanted to kill. They kidnapped his wife (widowmaker) and brainwashed her into making her a perfect sniper. Her skin is blue because they made her heart beat super slow so its easier for her to snipe. She then killed her own husband
a lot of lore is quite dark in overwatch
I'm used to apex's STFOs. Overwatch is another fucking level damn
As for moira and reaper, they were both part of overwatch and they were also both in ‘blackwatch’ which was basically a group of overwatch agents (reaper moira genji mccree) who did the dirty work without being seen by the public. But when reaper killed a talon boss during a blackwatch operation the whole world found out. This also started a beef between soldier and reaper which caused a massive explosion in the overwatch base. Soldier and reaper were both believed to be dead. Soldier survived (we dont know how) and moira saved reaper. After saving reaper moira started doing crazy expiriments on reaper and gave him supernatural abillities to turn into smoke and regenerate. They both joined talon and are on the same side as widow now
Moira always wanted to do dark experiments but overwatch didnt allow her to. Thats why she liked talon because they let her do whatever she wanted
The M in Moira stands for M.I.D.
baptiste also has quite dark and sad lore
Reaper is also in alot of pain because of the expiriments. He says in a voice line something along the lines of “is the pain ever gonna stop”
which you really dont notice in game
Poor reaper ngl
Sigma lore has got to be the darkest tho
Its basically widow and reaper lore combined times 20
sigma is also very dark yeah but very little is said about him.
By the way he looks, probably yeah...
In really, really short what happened to sigma, @keen summit
He is basically a brainwashed schizo who doesnt know hes being used by talon and is the most powerful out of any hero
Ohh
he was learning how to control gravity, the expiriment worked kinda but it hurt him and made him crazy making him go into a mental institute, talon broke him out and is using his powers of knowing everything about the universe and controlling gravity
he doesnt even realise what hes doing
Well, if I saw his ultimate correctly, I saw black hole so yeah makes sense he's the strongest
he rises them up
for sigma its like he just got a new lab but he doesnt realise when he loses control
What about genji lore then, he's my main so I kinda wanna know...
thats very long i'd advise you to first watch the short called dragons
Oh alr
sven
Man I'm used to apex lore, this shit is so dark lmao
just wait a bit maybe i want him to be surprised for the reveal
Ye u right
almost every character in ow has tragic backstory
Watch the sigma one aswell tho its sick
You’ll understand why he says “what is that melody” aswell
if u want base level lore knowledge watch origin stories and cinematics
i was so hyped when i realised he was dutch
Well, what makes apex and overwatch have something in common, is cinematics and dark ass lore ☠️
Hahahaha
i mean you can see tracer almost die
or get lost within time
Mei lore is also kinda depressing
my fav origin story will always be doomfist
Wraith from apex kinda has the same story, was tested in a lab (because she had the ability to phase through the void) and yeah... Get tested by crazy doctors... Expect she gets saved by her future self
for sure, bap and mei you can easily forget how dark their backstory truly is
My top 3 gotta be 1. Sigma 2. Hanzo 3. Sombra
origin story is the comic ones hanzo dont have one
Never really understood doomfist lore. He just wants war lol
Yeah I meant just backstory’s
ill explain a bit as a doom fan
What character has probably the funniest or just, most normal reason to join overwatch
basically his mindset is an extreme example of a martial artist which he was. Through fighting we get stronger, so we should have wars. Also its backed up by the past where lots of inventions were caused or made faster during wars.
Lucio? Lmao he likes music idk lol
ill say rn, not everyone in the cast is part of overwatch
Joining overwatch idk. Sombra joined talon because she just wanted it for fun and her own goals she dont even like talon lol
i'd say brig, cuz her dad and her mentor worked there
Yea she just got born into it
Brig is just a good person
So just spawned into overwatch
Rein originally didnt even want to join :((
Torb looks like he got a great personality
Damn
This is a guide for people who don't know where to begin with the lore of Overwatch. The first thing is probably to go watch the shorts. They're popular, easy to consume, and pack a lot of story and character.
Shorts Playlist: https://bit.ly/2UQyTeL
There are many comics, short stories, and blog posts as well. The most important ones are:
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
Stone By Stone: https://bit.ly/36EsPul
Also important for Overwatch 2 is Cassidy's comic series, New Blood:
#1: https://bit.ly/3wJqcnL
#2: https://bit.ly/3ejXkd0
#3: https://bit.ly/3fbBwB3
#4: https://bit.ly/3B9zLOE
#5: https://bit.ly/3iaM0lB
There is also an important chain of events following Ana and Soldier 76 (and Mercy at the end):
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE
The rest of the stories are mostly optional. Special mention goes out to the Junkers, who have an entertaining string of stories:
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
A Moment in Crime: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC
theree wee gooo
Anyone here excited for PvE
Ty
As long as it isnt just “yo omnic attack here, kill them” im excited for it
Gotta be a good story
Thats my least fav one lmao
if u want more for some you can go to origin stories as some dont have one
I never read the comics tho I rly wanna start doing that
Idk the animation is really cool tbb
Dynamic dialouge between the diffrent heroes deppend on what heroes you pick for the missions
Animation on the genji animation video is top tier
pretty nice ngl
Straight out of a movie
i did most are nice
Personally who do you guys think has the coolest backstory
many are
I only read the first 2 the mccree one and the rein one
hammond
Both didnt add much to the story
Who Hammond robotics?
Sigma sombra or hanzo
Bastion
wrecking ball
Hammond = wrecking ball
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this is my fav origin story
Bastion literally fought in a war is a machine traumatized by war that now lives with a dwarf in sweden
the point that doom's has is done well. Show how scary he truly is. He can fight multiple overwatch people without any fear and analyze weaknesses easily
Yeah hes a beast fr
YOOO
I forgot the bastion cinematic
Absolutely goated
Its actually like a pixar movie
Goated but no in the game for now lmao
sigma is supposed to feel dark, sad etc while doom is supposed to instill fear and intimidation.
Hahahahha true
you feel with sigma that insanity
To me the sigma story is just scary lmao first time I watched it it was like 2 AM I thought it would be just a normal hero announcement but hell no
That shit scared me
every origin story has a solid theme to what it should make you feel
lots are hopefull yet sad
I wish every hero had its own theme song like kiriko and sigma
doom is intimidation, hopelessness and pure power. sigma is fear and crazy and that gets shown so well
doom has one too les go
Yeah the ppl in charge of the cinematics and lore are top tier at overwatch
Wait does he
yes in his origin story
Is it just background music or like his actual own theme
well it would make sense to be his theme as it has tribal and powerfull sounds
Is there a character who joined overwatch because he is famous and wants to promote itself by joining?
thats what hes about
no there aint no octane
Hahahahahha
Lmao
there are famous people but they join overwatch to help the world not to be famous
non have that shallow of goals
Hahahaha yeah
old genji wasnt always good, ahem REYES exists, moira exists
Do u know if theres a comic on pharah’s team?
think so
aint lucio a literal superstar
!!loreguide
This is a guide for people who don't know where to begin with the lore of Overwatch. The first thing is probably to go watch the shorts. They're popular, easy to consume, and pack a lot of story and character.
Shorts Playlist: https://bit.ly/2UQyTeL
There are many comics, short stories, and blog posts as well. The most important ones are:
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
Stone By Stone: https://bit.ly/36EsPul
Also important for Overwatch 2 is Cassidy's comic series, New Blood:
#1: https://bit.ly/3wJqcnL
#2: https://bit.ly/3ejXkd0
#3: https://bit.ly/3fbBwB3
#4: https://bit.ly/3B9zLOE
#5: https://bit.ly/3iaM0lB
There is also an important chain of events following Ana and Soldier 76 (and Mercy at the end):
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE
The rest of the stories are mostly optional. Special mention goes out to the Junkers, who have an entertaining string of stories:
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
A Moment in Crime: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC
Oh yeah dva and lucio are famous @charred rapids
yeah but thats not why he helps overwatch
there are famous people as i said
Lucio is a dj and dva is a pro gamer
but he blasts his music the whole game
litterally is what he relies on bro is promoting💀
Did u guys hear what sigma says to lucio in game
there are 2
“Please turn the music a little louder” then lucio asks if he likes it and sigma says it just distracts him from the voices in his head
Yikes
damn lucio really thought a mad scientist liked edm
He had hopes😂
i wonder where genji would be now if he wasnt nearly killed by hanzo
u think he wouldve still joined overwatch
no he wouldve stayed with shimadas probs
he had nothing better.
Altho I don’t understand why genji would join blackwatch. He literally disagreed with the shimada’s goals
i mean was he that lazy he had to die
thats why he was in blackwatch, he wasnt stable yet. after it disbanded he went to nepal
Real G’s have always been on hanzo’s side
Hes the goat
anger. Imagine just nearly having been killed he was mad he had to take his anger out
nah i was on genjis side at first, i just thought all genji did was party so his brother killed him
with genji and hanzo none are wrong
Kinda what happened ngl
hanzo shouldve gave him a stern talking too
he never betrayed them, he was just being a kid
Genji just didnt do anything for the clan so hanzo was ordered to kill him which made hanzo hella depressed and he swore to never use a sword again after ‘killing’ genji with one
and the elders didnt like it
exactly
hanzo just did what he was told to
if i was hanzo and genji wouldve tole me he was alive, i wouldve grabbed my sword from the mantle right then and there
im not throwing away years of dedication and practice
Thats why im on hanzo’s side he just followed orders and it made him sad af and he couldnt forgive himself even after genji forgave him
Agreed lmao
im picking my familys legacy anyway
arent the shimada known for being proficient swordsman
Yeah
And they did some illegal buisness but they always took care of the people
They were good people overall but genji still ignored them because of the illegal buisness
he just saw the sweet ninja training as a bonus
Reeeaaal
like imagine being a rich ninja, ofc id wanna have fun too
Yeah but bro was straight up ignoring the clan tho
Not doing any missions
Just gaming in the arcade and shit
i mean but if shimada can afford a literal castle they can afford more recruits and training
Hanzo > genji
I think it was a family only thing
lameeee
Yuuup
idc id be mad still idk how genji so chill about it
He wasnt chill about it
But zenyatta helped him
And then he learned to forgive his brother
oh that monk guy
Yup
If we get a story mode mission with genji and hanzo on the same team im throwing a party
or is he all robot with a brain inside
Nah hes human
oh dope
But like half and half
thatd be dope
BRUH GENJI DIED A VIRGIN
NOOOOO
nvm hanzo>genji all the way now
Genji never died
It was confirmed those parts still work
Alright so u know how I said the sigma story video scared me I just saw something that gave me goosebumps bro
thats what i mean by died a virgin but hes probably too enlightened to even think of that
no way the devs actually confirmed that
You can hear him say release me and hold it together multiple times
And u also hear “bevrijd me” which means release me in dutch
Actually creepy af
And u also hear him says “its in me”, “get it out” and “enough”
when ur just messin around with gravity and uncover an eldritch being
Such a quirky scientist
He can turn the lights off tho I think
i just saw the sparrow fit and its 20 fucking bucks
In the genji cinematic he turns them on
no i mean young genji todays the first time i wanted to buy a skin for him
now im not sure if i should
i want the human one to see how he reloads
Out of all genji skins
U wanna buy that one
Hell naa
Wait thats a good question
I got the human skin imma load up overwatch to see
That's probably on youtube
i had it its not that bad
The young hanzo skin is great ngl
The best one is the one where he has his mouth covered
Genji wasn't much of a ninja in his young days
He was trained to be a swordsman by his clan but he was never into it
Makes sense he wouldn't really dress anything like that outside of home
power ranger skin best skin
they really thought my boy was gonna be talon from rogue company💀
what do we think zenyatta's story is? his way of speaking and his orb of harmony and stuff make me think that he either commited a ton of crimes and repented from them all, or he was raised by monks.
he was probably a robot made to do menial work who heard about the Shambali and decided to join them
oh yeah
Zenyatta is only 20 years old
pov: you enjoy rogue company 💀
What is the Mauga lore?
Hanzo’s backstory isnt really sad imo
My brother in christ
He was straight up depressed for 10 whole years over someone who wasnt even dead
yeah but thats about it, but put it up against someone like Baptiste or Tracer, it really isnt that bad
most realistic out of them💀
Yeah u right
he is a mercenary working for Talon (heavy assault unit kinda guy), was friend with Baptiste, and got blown up by Baptiste when thet meet again after years - and we don't know what he became after that
It was leaked that he might be the next tank so i wanted to know a bit more of him, but ty
we just know he is male - and that "the players have seen before"
I thought that minigun dude from uprising was mauga
Mauga is a Heavy Assault
Oh
I do hope that Mauga gets dual miniguns for weapons
But a ”legit” leaker named OW2leaks4u leaked it
Idc if it’s broke, it’ll be funny

Make one close up and the other for ranged for all I care, I want double minigun tank
Yes
it’s not titanfall
I was thinking more like Lennox from Evolve
Whole hog as a main weapon lol

Hi in my fanfic i want Moira to be LGBT (possibly trans) but soldier to be STRAIGHT. Is this considered heterowashing?
Or is it cool because he should Be straight as he's the killer in the movie.
I don't want the gay character to be the villain as I am also gay.
Also if anyone knows any good artists who can do a furry version of soldier
But I don't want to be cancelled
But they're my audience
Well comedians make fun of their own audience all the time
I'm have an account with 62 followers
My audience are very sensitive
That’s Twitter for you
But this is a lore channel and not a fanfic one, idk where you’d go for fanfic in this server
I got 7 day suspension because I asked if a certain person from history was gay
But they didn't like the word I used
F slur but as it was against an old bad guy I thought it's k
then maybe don't use that word
I won't ever
yeah no, definitely don't use that word
Not even against H man from history you know
I'm gay btw si more of a draggy thing to say
You know
there's certain words you just don't say
Sorry sir
ma'am
what you do in your fanfiction is up to you, but this isn't the place to discuss it
When people start treating fanfiction as actual lore, we get crap like Pharmercy being taken seriously
I thought I was banned here for a sec
No but I asked if it was ok
i’m gonna be honest i make up small things in my head and forget if they’re actually canon or not sometimes
it’s never anything huge though
Like how I keep thinking Junkrat is super smart, but he’s actually not
just like “did this character actually call that character a nickname”
XD same!! OWO IS GORILLA HUMAN TURNER MONKE? OR MONKEY TURNED HUMAN
He’s just above average
fr
Which
I dunno, Junkrat seems pretty intelligent all things considered. He's just crazy on top of that.
sym’s on a different level
Same with Sigma
absolutely
If he snaps he could easily rip someone apart by the molecule if he wants
reaper
One of his voicelines when your team has less teammates alive is "They're numerically superior to us!" or something like that. No normal crazy person would say that, he's smart-crazy.
He respects the artistry behind Torb's work.
i’m pretty dumb but i have a large vocabulary he’s probably just like me
reaper
reaper
Still waiting for a canon explanation on how Reaper makes his shotguns.
i’d love to have one but they’d prob never give us one
Is he able to 'build' them like how he can disintegrate and rebuild himself.
Sigma lore
tbh i know the lore comes in bits and pieces but i want like an extremely in-depth dive into all of the characters and their stories
We're 100% getting that with the PvE.
oh definitely but i mostly mean like little things that would prob never be addressed lmao
prolly gon be switching between talon and overwatch
Never know, the devs may take the time to fill in the robot and Talon slaughter with the characters bantering about certain abilities they have and giving a peek into how some work.
i’d give anything 😭
idk like the line on Route 66 where soldier talks about the roadtrips he took as a kid ?? little stuff like that is 😚🤌
ITS SO GOOD
Does anyone has fps drops and micro freezes since 4 or 5 days pls help me 😭
Don't remember this being mentioned in the LORE of Overwatch.
Guys are spamming in others rooms 😅
This is lore discussion, not tech support.
lore explanation for frame drops
I understand but do you know someone that could help me ?
echo experiences frame drops
Names McRee
As I said there are too much messages
try reinstalling ur game
No just for every champions i have freezes and fps drops that I didn't have 5 days ago
or configure ur video settings
doesn't work

But this is coming from the game itself
i just wanna talk about soldier’s road trips man
It worked perfectly before
idk how to contact the staff so
Okay I let you talk man I'm going to another room
make a ticket on blizzard’s or overwatch’s website
They don't answer me it has been 5 days now
reaper
reaper
@peak escarp do u know if thats an actual voiceline?
What is Australia actual like in the lore? Are there any modern cities left ? Junker Queen's cinematic make it seem like a Mad Max wasteland. Just seems a bit weird to me since the rest of the world is mostly normal/high tech.
Actually good question
Australia is high tech it’s just the outback that’s fucked
bc Australian government or smth gave the outback land to omnics and outback people revolted and blew up an omnium which irradiated the land
which is why Junkrat has a voiceline about radioactive dirt with Mercy
yeah because some parts of it which involve the australian government making decisions in the lore are modern but then the parts like the wasteland and junkertown are just the people left stranded to survive on their own, the outbacks were to the omnics but then they didn’t like it so people fought back and then it became junkertown which was one of the few remaining
oh I see, that's f'd. I assume the Australian government wouldn't allow people living in the outback to move back to the big cities. Or at least many of them like Junker Queen hold a grudge.
yeah maybe not sure though
we saw Sydney in the comc "Going Legit"
it was a normal city
theory: every character is a variating number of torbjorns stacked on top of each other in disguise
actual thing tho
why did the black hole make sigma go mad
i see people talking about him seeing into the universe but it never implies that
he just got injured and has brain damage right
You think you’d be alright mentally if you were at the epicenter of a black hole and it began warping you?
it shattered his psyche
this is real yes ! i’ve heard it a few times
legit makes me sad
thank you, cuz i never heard it before
it could be hinting at more of a complication in the new overwatch but it could also be nothing
mercy going behind Overwatch's back to try to stabilize his genetics or potentially overwatch capturing reaper
but most voicelines are not canon as far as i know
I know for a fact-out of all overwatch members, Mercy despised Moira's experiments for good reason. maybe that is why she has so much sympathy for Reaper, because Mercy knows how harsh Moira's experiments are.
whats sigmas backstory
he was an astrophysicist who conducted an experiment to harness a black hole, except the experiment failed and he had his psyche pulled apart by exposure to the black hole
also it somehow gave him gravity powers
Where does baptiste originate from
Haiti
He has a British accent
he has a Haitian accent
Ok
i would die actually
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die
whats orisa's lore why does she talk in yoruba
because she's from Numbani
Numbani is a city-state in Nigeria
they speak Yoruba in Nigeria
Is Winston African or middle eastern i’m leaning on the African part
Winston is from the moon
gorillas dont live on the moon
oh i thought yoruba is a tribe or something
it's both a tribe and a language
well yeah but like i didnt know it was a big language
winston is habibi

bro?💀😂
he has a moonian accent
who do you guys think would be the most powerful hero in the overwatch lore (canon)?
this is like the 5th time this week someone has asked this
the answer is Sigma, Symmetra, Winston, Orisa, Doomfist
you'd put someone else in the top 5?
The question wasnt top 5, it was #1 contenders
He deserves top 5 for sure
But he's firmly #2 or lower
What is moira's and reinhardt's discussion at spawn about?
Like what is reinhardt referring to?
which one?
When he says "i should crush you like a bug for what you've done"
he's talking about Moira's part in the downfall of Overwatch
and what she did to Reyes
kinda funny how Reaper wants to kill all of overwatch and carry out Doomfist’s plans for constant fighting, but Overwatch sympathizes Reyes
wouldnt say sympathizes
only Mercy it seems who did that
even then I don’t know if that voiceline is canon or noncanon
it's what she would say in some context/extend I suppose
Moira used Mercy own research to do her own thing, and she probably would heal the ones Moira wronged with her experiment
When are we getting our cinematic movie that Jeff promised
honestly i wouldnt know about orisa, like she can beat doom but she was created for that purpose.
when has he ever mentioned a movie?
How did reper get his ghost powers/ shadow power thing.
moira experimented on him after the fight with soldier 76, after their explosive fight he was left die and moira found him and used him as her first human test subject. i think she was trying to create imortality but instead all his cells were put into limbo of restoration and decay letting him go into his smoke form and reform
does bastion have omnic enlightenment when he woke up in the forest, or are they from before or after the time period when the iris was released
we dont know. we barely know what the iris is
whats genji, hanzo and zenyatta lore, cuz i know genji and zenyatta did stuff
sigma mentions in one of his voicelines he met the iris or something
quite logical
the iris seems like a sortoff universal will or sum, and sigma knows everything about the universe as a whole. So ofcourse he met the iris
oh hey sojourn has a book
Don’t miss this exclusive origin story of Sojourn—the fierce, cybernetic soldier, commander of Overwatch in days past and a steward of its future—based on the smash-hit video-game from Blizzard Entertainment. 6 x 1.5 x 9 in 224 pages Hardcover Author: Temi Oh Officially Licensed
or well its coming
Why did they change mcrees name?
well the man his name was based on was.... not a good person basically
Can you still play overwatch 1
No ow1 is now ow2, they deleted ow1
Mccree was named after a guy who worked at blizzard but he SA’d someone so they changed it
Sigma reaper doomfist hanzo (with sword) winston
hanzo with sword stronger than ahem reinhard who is shown to be insanely strong?
or hog who with his hook could hook in an entire ice truck sign?
Yes, if you time travel
Winston
He defeated Doomfist and forced Reaper to run away in the museum
Probably Genji and Sigma
genjis sword is powerful but genji itself is prob no more powerful than any other cyborg
his tiny man brain is shattered because he tried to play god
sigma tbh
hes really powerful, we can argue all day about his mental state but the man can control gravity
Sigma is nigh featless though
But to what extent we don't know
yes but we know what he can do, control gravity. if he wanted to he could crush someone instantly or make them unable to move
he will always be mcree though
*McCree
No. Mc-Cree
if you're going to use the wrong name at least spell it right
But it’s not the wrong name??
Well i mean not really, you ask the majority of people what his name is they will say McCree
that doesn't matter
well it does because that’s the people that play the game
the majority of people will call Winston "Monkey" but that doesn't make it his name
That’s different though
hope they drop a bit more lore like they did with junkenstein
in the game winstons name has never ever been ‘monkey’ , however you can’t say the same for McCree can you
Not really though because McCree has been his name at some point in history
Pharah was called Mercy at one point
that doesn't mean calling her Mercy is correct
that makes no sense though really
it's always been stated through voice lines that it was his false name tho
long before the change
that was Sombra just messing with him
Yeah so then explain what his real name was then
i thought she was for real lmao
she's the person who would know that kinda stuff
The Joel thing is a reference to a weirdly pro-cowboy in-universe article written by “Joel Morricone”
implying he’s the one who wrote it about himself
but also it lined up pretty well lol
who
also a meta reference to the fact that before they settled on a name, he was known as "Joel" internally
yeah, i remember they just used "cowboy" in one of the tournaments
I doubt he has the feats to show he can crush someone as durable as say Winston
when he was going through the change
for a universe "grounded in science" controling gravity is kinda a huge thing, like is gravity the thing that keeps us put and makes physics work as they work
so yeah saying he can affect it is enough to say hes a beast
he can control individual atoms…doesnt matter how durable winston is, he can rip him apart by the very atoms that make him
The human body has billions of atoms though. Its gonna take forever to rip apart all indivisual atoms
he quite literally can make a black hole out of thin air, and u think he isnt the strongest
i mean he doesnt need to if he say takes the gravity for an area or augments it winston body would be damaged
He only made one temporarily
thats how gravity affects a living being
idk check #esports-discussion
wrong chat
that one temporarily can still rip up a person alive or heavily distort them in a way that they cant live. Sigma lives in the universe, aswell as being the smartest in the universe. Being able to manipulate gravity and space on a 5d level isnt weaker then a monkey with a laser
yeah hes canonically the smartest char even in his condition
But if he made one wouldn't that kill him too?
no because he’s already distorted by a black hole
I doubt the one he made in game was an actual black hole
Thats why he's still doing research
To harness the black hole's power
the black hole’s cant have an effect on the maker as its a vacuum. aswell as him being already distorted by one cuz his psyche was ripped apart by one
what? he doesn't control atoms
he can turn himself into smoke
that's it
Only gravity
And he doesn't have the feats to kill rip apart Winston with it
Maybe in the future where we get more feats he could be the strongest though
It can affect the maker though as seen in Sigma's short. The black hole affected him
yeah i mean the same way explosives can affect the heroe that uses them
doesnt mean their bad
I dont know why Sigma would be fighting Winston anyway
cause hes with talon
Its a what if
their manipulating him
idk where i lost ya with yes is gravity, friggin gravity
Orisa is canonically racist
I feel like Sigma is kinda overratted in power
How?
!!shitposting @iron sail
@iron sail Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
Damn I can’t be funny
Its a serious discussion
this is a serious discussion channel
I was being semi serious
if you want to be funny go to #overwatch
internet humor where just saying random stuff is a joke were supposed to love
I just want orisa canceled so she gets removed
she's not getting removed
Who cares if she's racist
Never
i mean prejudice is touched on universe with omnics
so in a sense we already have heroes that are bigots anyways lol
Humans are racist to omnics. Therefore its not bad if Orisa is racist to humans
i mean i doubt orisa would be regardless
numbani seems very tolerant
besides she was created post crisis by a kid she loves
She's not racist. I'm just saying if she was it wouldn't be wrong
She beat up doomfist I’d say that’s racist
So it’s a evil hate crime
Has it been fully confirmed soldier 76 is gay or is it just a game theory
it wasnt even a crime
since doomfist is a terrorist and she seems to have numbanis gov in her side
he is gay
Evil only from a certain point of view

To me he’s more of a hero than the illegal vigilantes known as Overwatch
Doomfist is literally a terrorist
Well nobody’s perfect
that "point of view" is society
Well at the very least his cause is a jsut one, for humanity to evolve
His actions to do it however

the ends don't justify the means
Eh, I’d still side with him rather than Overwatch
When you have drip like his formal outfit, hard to say no
Hammond defo built a auto masturbator into his ball there’s no way mboy didn’t
yeah pretending i didnt read that
You know I’m right
hes literarly a terrorist for no other reason than, society conflict advance, even tho conflict has as much likelyhood if not more than just cause extinction
Yah, side with the one willing to end lives so others can thrive, rather than the ones who protect all people so everyone can thrive
the man in question is death cause doom commited murder
thanos ?
thanos indeed
i could type you up a 5 page thesis on why i think doomfist and thanos are the same side of the same coin
but it wouldn't matter because the overwatch team will willingly retcon his actions anyways
Thanos wants to wipe half of everyone to lessen the impact on resources, doomfist creates conflict. Believing humanity will adapt. I think Thanos did worse than doomfist
Man I just came out of a lecture on Kant and this was a trip to see

You gonna teach billions to fight heavily armed robots
Apparently people forgot rule 4 exists
like 1) you assume overpop is the problem in all plantes 2) people can still reproduce
When humanity adapts to certain things, bad people will find a way past those adaptations, the cycle is endless, that's why heros are important. Heros inspire people to rise up above the rest to do what's right, then those new heros will inspire the next generation. It's like I said, the cycle never ends
Bro😂😂
what
if they're going to insist on using the wrong name, they should at least spell it right
period
💀
it’s the truth 
I don't really care what name people use
it just makes me irrationally upset when ppl spell it wrong
just spell it right
fr
and don't correct people when they use a different name
I just find it funny tbh🤠
wasnt McCree just his nickname not even his canon real name
Not sure.
They were cryptic about it
So either McCree was a fake name he used, or it was retconned out of existence entirely
I'm leaning towards the latter since Ashe knows him as Cassidy now inexplicably
maybe, I just feel like McCree was a nickname he went by as “Cree” was a common name back during cowboy era
(yes ik it was named after an employee but thats also why I think McCree happened)
Cree was a common nickname in the cowboy era... for Native Americans
Cassidy isn't based on real cowboys though - he's more inspired by Hollywood cowboys and biker gangs
ashe calls him cassidy because there was no other choice for the writers
it doesn't reflect any story design choice
that said we will likely never get futher confirmation because it would be awkward to have characters talk about a name change without saying the old name for no reason
so it probably doesn't really matter
as i said, it was prolly a nickname Cassidy gave to himself, but yeah doesnt really matter narratively
Well, it does matter narratively
One is an awkward sidestep they choose to avoid and the other is a retcon
The Ashe voiceline leans towards the latter
If we ever get story including him from between Deadlock Rebels to the end of Overwatch and they call him Cassidy, its a hard retcon
And that is what Im wholly expecting
To be fair a lot of society advanced because of conflict
or even the threat of conflict
doomfist doesnt have a bad point
is sigma aware of everything around him orrr, because he appears to be aware of everything but not in control in his trailer and i want to know if thats true with his present self
yes and no
sometimes he's aware, sometimes he's off in his own world
he doesn't have alternate personalities though, he's just not always present
what is that melody?
kinda a theory of it but what if it was some key orchestra thing sigma had in his childhood
What’s the time period
of Overwatch?
Yes
Is there someone who can send pictures in this channel for me? I have found some Textures in the game that don't seem familiar...
!!loreguide
This is a guide for people who don't know where to begin with the lore of Overwatch. The first thing is probably to go watch the shorts. They're popular, easy to consume, and pack a lot of story and character.
Shorts Playlist: https://bit.ly/2UQyTeL
There are many comics, short stories, and blog posts as well. The most important ones are:
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
Stone By Stone: https://bit.ly/36EsPul
Also important for Overwatch 2 is Cassidy's comic series, New Blood:
#1: https://bit.ly/3wJqcnL
#2: https://bit.ly/3ejXkd0
#3: https://bit.ly/3fbBwB3
#4: https://bit.ly/3B9zLOE
#5: https://bit.ly/3iaM0lB
There is also an important chain of events following Ana and Soldier 76 (and Mercy at the end):
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE
The rest of the stories are mostly optional. Special mention goes out to the Junkers, who have an entertaining string of stories:
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
A Moment in Crime: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC
@wet plank
thanks
so should i start by watching all the shorts
and then the list?
@peak escarp
yes
you're welcome
one more question, where can i find all the shorts?
im guessing youtube
but how do i know which one to start with?
@peak escarp
sorry for ping
the order doesn't matter
The only one that matters is I'd say Recall first and Zero Hour last
Since there are a lot in the middle
Alternatively, just watch them in release order
they're all entertaining, but yeah, the only plot relevant ones are Recall and Zero Hour
