#lore-discussion
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If he just stayed as a humble teacher basically he couldbe been great. Telling people what to work on to improve but instead he gained power and then well scaled it up. As i said its like seeing that africa needs water and then overflowing it. Sure it solves something but it also causes pain
@livid spindle
I’d rather an actual Null Sector hero
Too boring when all we get is heroes and defectors for playable characters only. We need some evil in our midst
Not sure I understand the fox spirit very well but if kiriko is protected by it she should be invincible
Doesn’t make sense in the lore either ngl
Even Hanzo and Genji’s dragons went a bit too far for me
What exactly is The Overwatch in lore term? Cause from some of the Voicelines it seems like it’s some kind of professional league or competition
Overwatch was a peacekeeping force, originally formed to combat the Omnic Crisis
The matches are a "what if" with notorious figures from the universe
Seem I see
Does anyone have a current video/playlist link with every cinematic? Trying to find one so I can watch with my niece
why did the french robot have facial hair in the ow2 trailer
Style points
As in actually
Omnics can stylize their bodies with details similar to human head/face hair
is junker queen taller than Zarya?
Just use google xD
You can use google for most of these questions, the point is to make convo
and the answer is yes, though not by that much
reaper is probably the strongest character in the verse besides sigma
It's accurate because it literally happened
for the plot armor tho, for the story to continue winston couldnt just die
Unkillable or enduring isn't the same thing as strongest
"Plot armor" is applicable when something random happens to save a hero, or something that should've killed them doesn't
What is rein full lore?
Winston won
winston didnt win he just made reaper retreat tho
Honor and Glory covers most of it
That's called a win
have u watched the other cinematic tho
Do that if you're interested in rein
reaper destroyed monkey and tracer got handed by widow
My favorite short is recall since my main is monkey guy winston
reaper scales higher than winston tho based off hax and ap he literally slams winston, winston just cant die because hes a central figure in the story
Neither can reaper for the exact same reason
His "hax" still didn't let him win
just get away
Remember winston is not a monkey
not really reaper can die but winston is arguably the face of overwatch rn
He is a scientist
we could debate it in vc if u want magician just use vsbw and reaper slams
use what
in the continuity it makes sense that winston would make reaper retreat, hes not stronger but he can make him retreat i get what u mean
vs battle wikis
and no, I've said everything I had to say
its like inverse battles and stuff
yeah those don't amount to much
what isnt
We're not talking about some abstract power scaling numbers from super smash or whatever
gtfo out of here with that
thats not what it is its not abstract lmao its power scaling based on feats
One of Winston's feats is defeating Reaper lol
if person A provides more feats displaying stronger capability, person B is weaker
Don't know how much clearer can you get
thats not my point
yea idk whats supposed to mean
idk if he meant me or u
so making reaper retreat=stronger?
Yes
Reaper had a mission and Winston prevented him from doing it, through his combat ability
if you want to call it plot armor go ahead but, for one
he didn't have to die to be defeated by reaper
i get what you mean, but reaper deepowered a bloostlusted full powered monkey, he couldve just shot him in the face but he took his time talking
thats true thats why im saying in a bloodlusted scenario without taking his time talking hes just gonna put a shell in wintsons head
i still think sigma is the strongest character in loire
lore
probably
winston has a thick ass

she was Japanese
but that's not really "sombra"
just early ideation
!!shitposting @lavish oyster
@lavish oyster Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
What is bob? (ashe ult)
oh ok
he used to be her butler when she was a teen living with her rich parents
and is now partner in crime
i like lore
think alfred but child neglect instead of murder alley
no genji and hanzo are brothers
also they trained with kiriko, i think under her mom? but im not sure of that last
No
How old is doomfist
yes
45, as of recall
Reaper is latino
His name is gabriel reyes
Though considering he doesn’t speak with a Hispanic accent, to my knowledge, and we don’t hear him speak Spanish or Portuguese I think he was born and bred in America
Though he is indeed Latino
he is american so yeah
He's Hispanic and was born in LA
short answer, yes
long answer, she was in the old organization but hasn't yet joined the new one – her joining up will be part of the PvE campaign
I'll never forget the moment during blizzcon when there was time for only one question and someone asked if Reaper was Mexican. He's American. Please ingrain it into your head
It's haunted me for years
That's not really helpful
The people asking are the ones who haven't heard of it so there was nothing to "ingrain"
especially now that the bios have become less useful
Sweeeet thank bro
that was so cringe
@tall glacier Get the hint, last warning
they should have asked if Roadhog is Maori, since we still don't have confirmation on that
Mfw ppl can’t tell the difference between Hispanic and Latino
Spain is Hispanic, but it’s not Latino
can someone tell me why roadhog heals from his yellow drink
I think
No one really refers to Spain as Hispanic
It's pretty much merged at this point, just referring to Latin America
Which is funny considering Spain’s name during the time of the Roman Empire
He's suffering from radiation damage and the "drink" (that's a gas) is the medicine for it
Hispania
well yeah that's where it came from ultimately
Why did Hanzo try and kill genji
the clan elders wanted Genji to help more with the family after his father was killed
Hanzo didn’t ultimately want to to my knowledge
Oh, so why was he so ashamed when he thought he killed him
Hanzo was told to straighten out his brother
He didn't want to do it but felt like he had to
But once he did he felt he did wrong
it was his duty
Thank you lore masters
the dragon of the north wind 😢
what
is a ref wacth the short
is hammond gonna live longer cause of gen therapy? if not his story may be short
considering hamsters live a maximum of 2-3 years and Hammond is already 14...
yknow it's weird to think that canonically, rein and Ana probably havent encountered one another yet
despite their interactions progressing in OW2
does he even know she's still alive in universe?
Mercy would have told him when she rejoins Overwatch
that'd be a hell of a bombshell to have dropped on you second hand
I hope Ana sent him letters or something
"oh hey so captain Amari is still alive, and so is Jack Morrison... oh and Gabriel Reyes too apparently"
"Angela vhat zeh FUC-"
yknow the more I think about it
I think redemption IS possible for Reaper
is just one long attempt to avoid saying a goodbye.”
“How is he?” Ana asked.
“That’s a long story,” Jack said. “But I suppose we’ll
have time.”```
it's been done for worse people in fiction
that said I don't think it'll be the typical "I'm a good guy now and everything's ok!" kind of redemption
more like
he wakes up to himself I guess
helps save the world
and lets himself be taken to justice
I can see it happening
but i don't really ever see him siding with anyone
unless it's absolutely necessary
I could see him temporarily rejoining OW at some point
that way we'd get to play as the original strike team
that would be fun
like he goes rogue from Talon
but doesn't really have anywhere to go
so OW is his best option as far as people that MIGHT be willing to help him
in exchange for information probably
unlike Widow who despite the fact that the conditioning is wearing off
she's still a monster
Amelie Lacroix is dead
but Gabriel Reyes isn't
he's just dormant
something will wake him up eventually
maybe if or when Akandes plan goes to shit
if anyone should get a redemption arc it should be Hanzo
i never knew people were interested in overwatch lore
he actually WANTS redemption
I'm talking about the villains specifically
But yeah, imo Reaper is too far gone
Whatever Gabriel Reyes had left was gone after the Overwatch HQ blew up
well if we're talking about that
actually whatever was left of Gabe died during code of violence
but I don't think that's the case personally
again I'm not saying it'll be a typical redemption
more like
he comes to his senses, realizes all the bad shit he's done
and tries to do some good
it wont make up for all he's done
none of the villains we have are particularly redeemable though
Sigma needs rescuing, not redemption
then I guess redemption arc is the wrong term?
what's the term I'm looking for
Like mah boi Akande
I guess it'd just be a character arc
not necessarily a redemption
divergent topic but I like the headcanon that Sigma is aware he's getting on Moiras nerves with the shit he says and is doing it on purpose
god watching the 2019 PVE gameplay has me SO fucking hyped
Sigma and Junk Rat could be pretending to be mentally unstable
i mean hell junk rat is a world famous criminal known for multiple heists on some of the most powerful corporations
Why is Kiriko's last name Kamori when her parents are Toshiro and Asa Yamagami?
i think the only reason why he didnt have higher a higher bounty then cassidy and ash is because they were on blackwatch
as for sigma sometimes his forgetfulness seems forced
Kamori is her maternal grandmother's name
Oh, okay.
she uses it to protect her mother and father from retribution
especially during that one conversation with 76
Thanks.
so its very possible sigma is more there then he lets on
and junkrat could very well be an improvisational genius
meaning he is far better at making up a plan as he goes along rather then think anything ahead
which is why he cant really describe how he did all those heists
Do you have a source on that which I can add to this article? https://overwatch.fandom.com/wiki/Asa_Yamagami
The article currently says "It is possible that "Kamori" is Asa's maiden name."
Kiriko respects traditions to honor her grandmother, who gave her last name to hide and protect her. But she recognizes the need to change, adapt, and progress, just like her mother. As Kiriko would say, "You can't change the world by following all the rules.”
bottom of the article
we know that this is Asa's mother, since Asa's letter mentions how she chose not to follow the path of her mother as a shrine keeper
Thanks!
Don’t forget, Junkrat is actually really smart
He’s a lot like Joker from DC
Jameson is way smarter than he lets on
Let’s hope the new writing teams knows that
like i said i think a lot of his intelligence comes from adapting
he doesnt think ahead or plan he just makes things up as he goes
which is why he cant really describe his heists
oh also it seems like a lot of people in universe forget that all junkers are basically engineers
all of their weapons are hand made
and junk rat made a remote controlled explosive tier
so that means he knows how to make wire less signal based technology out of scrap
in fact all three of the junker heroes have something very interesting about them
road hog is very famous among the junkers and junker queen somehow manages to avoid leaving technological footprints even sombra couldnt find ANYTHING about her
which btw is something even sombra herself cant do she eventually got discovered
All of the Junker characters tech is basically just 40k ork tech..
yea but if you gave junkers some high end tech who knows what they could make
In 40k orkz make impossible space ships that make no sense and they function basically off of "magic"
kinda like road hogs shotgun thats able to fire scrap at the speed of a bullet
like i have no idea how that even works
kiriko and the shimada brothers probably use magic now. Sigma's like a weird psychic Hog's probably just some sort of similarly strange explanation.
and then there is zen who could figure out how his powers works but chooses not too
He probably know just doesn't want to tell mercy.
And regens health like crazy and can pull a gigantic german man in power armor with a turbine in suit with one hand.
since OW has crazy super powers and what not it wouldn't be surprising if Hog isn't exactly natural..
gameplay != canon
Is the Reinhart alt in the lore
What Reinhardt alt
@tropic garnet Roadhog is a normal person. He's strong, but has no special powers.

Kinda wish the OW matches had some kind of lore purpose
their gonna release a pve mode later on i think
that seems to have a storyline moving forward the chars
Where do we get the spelling of the name Meri? https://overwatch.fandom.com/wiki/Meri
The short has subtitles
It also has it written in the short like a Borderlands intro
Oh duh.
i loved everything about the cinematic
So would Genji still have folded Hanzo in the Dragons cinematic if Hanzo kept up his sword skills?
Yeah, that one was a much much better cinematic than Kiriko
it got delayed
Just rewatched it now.
why doom fist have big fist
i like kirikos but kirikos doesnt have the thunderdome
Any leaks or lore about cyberpunk theme hanzo??
Yeah for sure, really looking forward to that! But I like it when games have small touches where they really account for everything in-game through lore. Apex comes to mind as an example
But definitely super excited for PVE. Could be really dope if they pull it off
Rapid#31368
Soldier 76 is only one years old rn if he were real lmao
i honestly believe next hero might be storm rising omnic even though launching him closer to pve would make sense. journalist saw 4 silhoettes back then, only two stood out. one was legit the old concept art for kiriko while the other was a hooded figure with a crooked staff. we didnt see old concept art of sojourn or jq so we dont know theirs
but im hoping we get hero teasers again
Pretty sure they already confirmed in the roadmap that the next hero is slated to be in the tank role.
I know so i named the ones who seem like they could be tank
In overwatch discussion but here
Sanjay, storm rising omnic and mauga (max maybe in remote controlled mech) are previously known characters which was said cuzof a leak to be a tank "a well known candidate"
They also said a map goes with them tho
i never heard of it, but who knows. However we have no maps for any of those really
Can someone explain the background of Genji and Hanzo
japanese
;-;
I ask myself who The Boss of The Hashimoto is
Watch the cinematic on yt called dragons should give you some insight
Probably a guy named Hashimoto
It could be one of the meka squad
People are think they might add some of the meka squad and they could fit into every role
https://youtu.be/4wVaqOQS-xU good but lengthy lore vid
It isnt.
Meka squad has been deconfirmed till atleast season 8
They said "we currently aeent working on any meka squad heroes." And mentioned they are working on the hero in season 8
got you I don't think it could be the omnic at the end of storm rising I feel like he would be a support or a dps it could be someone new we don't even know anything about I don't they would just throw Mason Howl in because they just added jq I don't think they would put two people from junkertown in so close together
there is a possibility it could be someone from Winston's screen from the cinematic recall
Does OW2 team take character concepts?
is roadhog a junker?
Yes
nice
storm rising omnic can be anyhting
I'd be surprised if the new tank isn't Mauga
We just got a junker so it can't be Mason Howl and storm rising Omnic seems a bit too important to just drop on the second season
i want more zenyatta lore
have you read Stone by Stone?
no
F
ok where does reaper get all of his shotguns i need to know
So who is Iggy? Tracer mentioned a friend named Iggy in an interaction with Lucio
she's the omnic Tracer made friends with in London Calling
some overwatch for plate
in the weapon realm he makes a portal each time he realoads to get more shotguns
I just realized, don’t many of the Overwatch members act as living examples of Doomfist’s philosophy?
Torbjorn: became cybernetic after he lost his arm, Tracer: now can manipulate her own time after her disaster, Sojorun: Became nearly fully cybernetic as her body started to slow down, etc. etc.
Sojourn was cybernetic since childhood
she said she learned her body limits young, i doubt her parents would let a minor go trought cynertetics
So how come they’ve never elaborated on Sombra’s true goal and who it was that discovered her while she was hacking stuff
It’s been 6 years and one of the most interesting parts of OW lore is just not a thing
maybe it's not important to the current storyline, and will be developed in a future storyline
i mean maybe her goal is just hacking the world as she says, information is power and knowing how the world is affected and having the data to affect it gives you control
karate men
if a game as 🐶💩 as cyberpunk managed to create an amazing show imagine what overwatch could give us
they would if it would save her life
ok nice
yeah but they also said she choosed them as opposed to genji being saved by it
she chose to get more
“Her abilities are baked into her cybernetic body that allows her to execute her objectives,” explains Moyer. “Sojourn has had a lot of cybernetic upgrades in her life, starting out of necessity in her childhood. Eventually she started opting-in for cybernetic upgrades when she was in the military.” Sojourn chose these abilities to become the most effective fighter she could be— a stark contrast to her fellow Hero, Genji, who was forced to take his cybernetic body. Her cybernetic body and abilities are a means to an end, but only her objective matters.
genji is with you
hy
Magic
ah aigh
Mada Mada
I know I’m really late, but basically, they are 2 brothers who were the heirs to a criminal organization, genji rebelled and tried to destroy the organization, so Hanzo “killed him”, but he regrets it a lot so he’ll never use a sword again, but genji is actually still alive and becomes a cyborg and discovers peace with his body and goes to confront and forgive Hanzo in the animated short “Dragons”
Valorant has lore?
Fr
I love overwatch lore
Random question, but is torböjrn brigettes father or is it reinhardt?
thanks. do you know who the mother is?
What is the deal between talon and baptiste
he deserted their ranks
Honestly the only two characters that have relationship lore I can somewhat care about are Winston and hamlet
/ Hammond
tyty
winston did my mammal dirty smh
Ok i think they showed sojourn early
Look and slow down the winston cinematic where reaper trys to steal the overwatch hero database thing specifically when winston sends the recall message out
hi
That was when Genji and Hnaza wre supposed to be one char
Yeh

I lowkey feel bad for bastion
I feel bad for Reyes
Speaking of reyes
Do sombra widowmaker and him work for the same organization
Reyes is not an omnic
He’s works for the Iris
Moira gave him wraith powers, and when he nearly died in the Swiss HQ explosion, she amped up his powers too much
Nice
now he's constantly decaying and regenerating
We should be able to have some temporary hover flight with black fog for him
Like pharaoh but nerf it like crazy
Reaper lorewise probably claps everyone
Fr
yeah the og designs
They disgusting
she look kinda 😳
whatever she's wearing is interesting
moira is evil
maybe they will eventually
tho i feel shes motivated by something, like she has that entitled to wait interaction with mercy
i love her, cause shes evil scientist lol
Mercy better
i like both
🤞 arcane treatment
she also gave him cyber chee... nah im joking
An interesting tier chart someone made and posted to Reddit
Hammond should be in Rivals
He’s friends with Winston
he is not happy with Winston leaving him behind
i dont think he hates winston but he sure as heck is still pissed at him
and Ashe isn't really an enemy or rival of Overwatch
She’s Cole’s enemy. And he’s apart of Overwatch
but she isn't an enemy of Overwatch as a whole
So that makes her an enemy of Overwatch. Especially since she runs the Deadlock Gang, who Overwatch dealt with
i think the rivals cat is for anyone with an enmity with any of them like how symm is part of vishkar and lucio stole back from em
it's not a very good list
I kinda think Symmetra and Sombra need their own tier at the least
i would grouped some in neutral and some in criminals maybe
One doesn’t know her company is evil and the other is out for herself
And I don’t think we know for sure Orisa will join Overwatch. But if’s to stop Talon and Doomfist, maybe
it was implied in Hero of Numbani
i totally expect that they give orisa and doomfist their own cinematic fight
I also noticed Echo missing. Not sure if she’d be a new member or somewhere around original. Tough call
she's an original member
She never actually saw any action that we know of though
Before she was deactivated loaded onto a train
yeah but she seems to know them all and helped in paris so we can count her in
she was still part of Overwatch
Also just a fun thought, IF Mauga is the next hero. I think I know who could voice him. I want Dwayne Johnson, but since I doubt a video game company can afford him, I’ll say Kevin Michael Richardson instead
Tell me he doesn’t look like he could voice Mauga
I mean just so we can say Jabba the Hutt also voices Mauga
Not even close to my first thought about him
Honestly, I’d imagine Shredder’s voice coming from Mauga
sure, let's have another American voicing a non-American character
Would you really expect Blizzard to go out of their way to get someone who isn’t American? Be honest
they have for most of the heroes
they have for several heroes
16/35 VAs are not American ... almost half
Regardless, Richardson has literally voiced countless characters. Many of which you wouldn’t have even guessed it was him
that's no excuse for not at least looking for an actor of the appropriate nationality
or maybe just
an actual pacific islander VA
sure there are plenty out there
Like Gibraltar from Apex
Have him do a deeper, more antagonistic voice
And you’ve got a pretty dope Mauga voice
You’d need a Samoan voice actor
If you want someone of Mauga’s nationality to voice him
Yeah, Branscombe Richmond is just a Native Hawaiian
we don't know if Mauga is Samoan yet
His name is Samoan for mountain
so a tank?
Says he’s Native Hawaiian
Exactly
Brigitte is a French name
His name is literally confirmed to be a Samoan name meaning mountain. That’s all we know. But based on that, I think it’s safe to say he’s possibly from one of the Hawaiian islands
I think you mean Polynesian islands
The Hawaiian islands are the islands that make up Hawaii

It depends. We don’t even know if he’s the new tank or not. We might all be wrong
Samoa is Polynesian but it’s not Hawaiian
The only evidence is that it’s a person we’ve seen and male
it could be Sanjay
I really think only maybe 3 characters could be the new tank. Mauga, possibly the leader of Null Sector, or someone we’re forgetting
Hamid Faisal
They said seen before
he's been "seen"
I wonder if Hamid is secretly an Omnic and uses a human name to conceal that he’s an Omnic
But I’d be fine with a human Hamid
The only person we know for sure to be a tank is Mauga based on what we’ve read
But given some people might use mechs, that standard could change. After all, D.Va is a tank until her mech is destroyed
And Hammond is just a hamster in a mech of his own
All I know is Lynx is one of the last heroes I want
Sanjay could be a tank with hard light armor
Just cause I find every other hero options to be way more interesting
The only other possibility is Meri, but I doubt we’d see another Junker hero added right now
Like a hard light tank
And an Arabian Indiana Jones

Hamid is of Arabian origin
The name anyways
Faisal is also Arabic in origin
So at the very least Hamid is from the Middle East in some way
Regardless, I doubt the NS leader probably will be a hero until after PvE is added and while Sanjay isn’t an impossibility, he doesn’t strike me as a fighter. I wonder
Maybe this guy? Doubtful, but anyone’s guess is as good
A tank that uses hard light constructs to fight sounds neat
That’s just a glorified Reinhardt

That’s supposed to be Sound Quake. Who apparently has chest missiles
we've never seen Soundquake - he's just a name
i think they should all have a massive orgy in game

K. I think mods need to delete that guy frfr
@tall geyser pls mute @inland shadow or delete his message
Anyway, I think Mauga’s the only real tank possibly we have and I say that for several reasons. 1) we need another Talon hero because they’re all interesting villains. 2) His kit is clearly for a tank. 3) I think we can get more from his character as a hero then someone we’ve never seen fight before
Of course, they could potentially change up his kit from what we know he has. Which is a barrier and mini-guns. I don’t remember if he had anything else
I expect it to change
Did kiriko retcon the whole, no magic thing?
dual miniguns and a shield is a bit much
depends if Spirit is magic or not
the devs might not think it is
They would probably only make it one mini-gun and possibly take away the barrier. The devs wouldn’t want an op tank Bastion from the launch of OW1
Plus, Talon Heavy Assault concept looks like they’re only getting one mini-gun now. So Mauga would too
well, mauga had parts of sigmas kit at one point; probably his shield if i were to guess
Hmm. What if his ult was like a barriered rush where enemies in his path end up killed or lose half health? Too much like Rein charge and Queen rampage?
As far as I can tell, Definitely yes
Because I remember Talon Heavy Assaults could charge at you and your team
Kiriko really isn’t explainable by science
Everything from her backstory to how she uses it is unique
I hope Mauga gets the Heavy's swipe attack, something that does damage and knocks enemies back
She is either a Genetically engineered person with some type of control over molecules or she uses magic
we need more unique melee attacks
Because nothing about her makes sense as science
I think we could get meka some time next year
Another kinda ult Mauga could get is fire his mini-gun(s) toward the sky and rain down bullets from above. Wouldn’t be the first ult to use something like that
meka support would be awesome
No way they made all of these elaborate designs, concepts, and kits to not use them
Fr
I think we would get overlord or d.mon
D.mon has that
it works with his kit really well
We’ve seen potential heroes with them just never people actually added
Like junker king
yeah
Midichlorians in Overwatch, God no
i really hope in tne PVE theres bonus missions that are reinactments of previous events in the lore
The fox spirit makes 0 sense
like, imagine a mission where you rob a bank as junkrat and roadhog
I would play
Or what about the attack on overwatch hq
I still think that Junkrat is way smarter than he lets on
Then you can play as echo when liao gets killed
I remember something old that idk if it’s still canon that he discovered something extremely valuable info wise and needed a bodyguard to protect him
the crack got to his smarts
What Aussy does to a man
Well he lived his entire childhood in an irradiated wasteland sooooo
You thin they’ll allow a full Meka team some day?
Doubtful
Just added very separately over time
There was an interview a few months ago on that
They said they were open to adding more of meka but didn’t have plans at the time
But that was before they released the comic that showed meka squad in action and their abilities
Is it weird I’m thinking up a hero concept of an cybernetic bounty hunter who’s near full machine but used to be a man who’s a Maori/Outback Australian hybrid?
Roadhog 💀
He definitely has some unexplained super strength and durability
Not to mention that the dude is massive for no reason
Nah something more akin to a mix of Maui from Polynesian mythology (just more human power scaling) and Kraven the Hunter
Reinhardt: "I'm a tank bc I have a rocket powered suit of armor!"
Roadhog: "F A T"
ANGERY
because her VA is German
In Switzerland we use a way different german called Swiss german.
yep
So yea she's either poorly designed or fake Swiss
they probably couldn't find a Swiss VA so they settled for a German VA
Which is sad
what do you mean?
if you mean the team they defend their country almost single handledly for one of the most inhuman and adaptive omniums left
so like their good
wock poland
who's the strongest character canonically?
why does everyone ask this?
Winston, Sigma, Symmetra or Doomfist
maybe we need a command for it
Hey does someone have that "begin here" thing for the lore? Can't find it
!!loreguide
This is a guide for people who don't know where to begin with the lore of Overwatch. The first thing is probably to go watch the shorts. They're popular, easy to consume, and pack a lot of story and character.
Shorts Playlist: https://bit.ly/2UQyTeL
There are many comics, short stories, and blog posts as well. The most important ones are:
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
Stone By Stone: https://bit.ly/36EsPul
Also important for Overwatch 2 is Cassidy's comic series, New Blood:
#1: https://bit.ly/3wJqcnL
#2: https://bit.ly/3ejXkd0
#3: https://bit.ly/3fbBwB3
#4: https://bit.ly/3B9zLOE
#5: https://bit.ly/3iaM0lB
There is also an important chain of events following Ana and Soldier 76 (and Mercy at the end):
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE
The rest of the stories are mostly optional. Special mention goes out to the Junkers, who have an entertaining string of stories:
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
A Moment in Crime: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC
You're awesome @peak escarp
by not having open glass and openings in the cockpit of mechs
let me be more specific then
if MEKA’s designers and engineers were more competent
truly an excellent idea
I still dont get what you mean
by that I mean
why in the fuck would they have exposed body parts and controls in a mech meant to fight in close quarters against swathes of bots
because the mechs werent originally designed with pilots in mind
why would they be designed with exposed controls or anything in the first place
yeah but they could’ve at least made it not a death trap if defense matrix isn’t up and it takes a hit
hit the controls with a beam or explosive and that pilot’s entire forearm is gone
they couldve at least did a more thorough redesign
if they had the time to carve out mech systems, a HUD, external controls
etc
an internal pod without a huge glass dome at least wouldve been so much better
i get its for gameplay reasons but like
So much of it is just a bad idea
if there wasnt plot armor the bots would’ve probably learned to use chemical weapons and just kill the pilots or incapacitate them with that
they arent with the proper context; the mechs are (probably) extremely expensive pieces of high tech equipment
why not at least enclose the entire cockpit so it’s not so liable
The reason jets are fully enclosed isnt for armor. Its because of the speed. Not to stop bullets.
Most military vehicles are open air
And Overwatch designers based the military vehicles off military vehicles that exist
they aren’t with huge glass cockpits that end up as huge liabilities at the proper situation it is at
Fictional and otherwise
mechs should be enclosed with proper NBC protection like most ground vehicles are
especially in the position mechs are utilized in
No one knows what NBC protection means
internal protection against biological or nuclear weapons*
for example gas attacks
or just any harmful fumes in the air really
Is Echo sentient, or just a fancy robot?
she's an incredibly advanced learning AI
Sentient and a fancy robot. Designed by Mina Liao, who helped design the Omniums
What's an Omnium
Factory that created Omnics
a factory that produces a shit load of onnics
probably has mines in itself too for the actual construction materials
or at least some of them
new blood issue #3 seems to imply the omniums relied on external mines for it's resource needs
at least the one in siberia did

Cassidy - New Blood:
#1: https://bit.ly/3wJqcnL
#2: https://bit.ly/3ejXkd0
#3: https://bit.ly/3fbBwB3
#4: https://bit.ly/3B9zLOE
#5: https://bit.ly/3iaM0lB
Yeah ok
Wait, Genji once worked with Reaper?
Yes, though he wasn't reaper back then. They were both on Blackwatch
He literally wants to lose all of his extremities 💀
Junkrat is smart, but stupid
winston overwatch
im a sigma male
wait til you see Kiriko on her bike
What’s the story behind road hog
he was one of the farmers living in the outback near the omnium when the Australian decided to give the land to the omnics as part of peace treaties - angry at being displaced, Roadhog and some others formed the Australian Liberation Front and fought back against the omnics, sabotaging the omnium and causing a meltdown that irradiated the area
he worked as an enforcer in Junkertown before being hired as Junkrat's bodyguard and getting exiled from Junkertown
sigmas lore was so crazy good overwatch stopped expanding on it 3 years after he dropped
What are you talking about
The lore is just about the only thing they continued to release after announcing OW2
3 short stories, 2 novels, 10 comics, plus other assorted lore bits
the lore has been getting relatively consistent drops
And that's excluding the stuff from this year since they announced the betas
Like Junkerqueen and Kiriko's associated lore
How the hell did roadhog and junkerrat get into overwatch
they're not in Overwatch
they're off on their own
I thought they were since their playable in overwatch
nope
Then why are they there
many of the playable characters in the game aren't members of Overwatch
Damn
Oh
Yes
Reaper and Widowmaker work for Overwatch
Sombra too
Doomfist is one of the founding members
Moira and Mercy are best friends cos they’re on the same team

Even if its a shitpost, that last one isnt even accurate for people who actually are on the same team
Mercy and Moira used to both be part of Overwatch.
Mercy cant stand Moira
Junkrat and Roadhog are partners in crime
Roadhog doesnt like Junkrat
Hey anyone know where u can find overwatch comics or something
And half of Talon hates Sombra
Reaper and Moira dont really get along well either
@silver coral Go in #bot-commands and type !!loreComics
Okay thanks 🙂
I would leave Orisa in a limbo personally
We know she will join them for a mission
But not necessarily join
But thats everyone
By temporarily I mean like Torbjorn or Zen
Who look to just help for 1 mission
Not sure if Zen will join or not based on that, but we know Torbjorn wont
But if Zen can remain unaligned, I think Orisa should too

I'm pretty sure Junkrat and Roadhog were a part of Overwatch before they disbanded. In cinematics you can see them with the rest of the Overwatch line up, at least Junkrat. He's even wearing a suit in some of them.
So is Doomfist’s BoO no longer Numbani?
Cause I know dialogue is not much to go on due to it not technically being canon, but one interaction hints that Orisa beat Doomfist in a fight and made him retreat from Numbani
Doomfist seems to be operating out of Talon HQ in Rome now
did moira make reaper and widow maker? i keep hearing random dialog about her making a monster
yes she had a hand in making them the way they are
although not exclusively
Reyes was already a supersoldier when Moira started working on him
I'm still upset that we can't run a full Talon comp. We're missing a Talon support (No, Bap in his Talon outfit doesn't count)
maybe we'll get one in the future
Has there been official/forum post word about Kiriko apparently being magic? Is the writer guy that said there's no magic in Overwatch just no longer with Blizzard?
there's 2 options
either the "no magic" rule is retconned, or the devs view "spirit" and "magic" as separate things
The second one honestly just kinda seems ridiculous since IIRC the original "no magic" post was in response to somebody asking about Dragonstrike, right? Be weird if they're not the same as Kiriko's Fox Spirit. It's likelier to be the first. It bothers me that they just suddenly retconned something we've known for so long but I suppose it's not the end of the world. Makes me feel like they've lost the plot a bit, though.
it's not like "no magic" was widely known
it was said once in a foreign language interview that is no longer available
i'm excited for the halloween event and other events they might come up with
wasn't there pve?
tf2 better
What is up lore enjoyers
talons the bad guys?
havent had lore since the robot fight
Can anyone give my a description of the lore im new to ow2 i never played ow1
!!loreguide
This is a guide for people who don't know where to begin with the lore of Overwatch. The first thing is probably to go watch the shorts. They're popular, easy to consume, and pack a lot of story and character.
Shorts Playlist: https://bit.ly/2UQyTeL
There are many comics, short stories, and blog posts as well. The most important ones are:
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
Stone By Stone: https://bit.ly/36EsPul
Also important for Overwatch 2 is Cassidy's comic series, New Blood:
#1: https://bit.ly/3wJqcnL
#2: https://bit.ly/3ejXkd0
#3: https://bit.ly/3fbBwB3
#4: https://bit.ly/3B9zLOE
#5: https://bit.ly/3iaM0lB
There is also an important chain of events following Ana and Soldier 76 (and Mercy at the end):
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE
The rest of the stories are mostly optional. Special mention goes out to the Junkers, who have an entertaining string of stories:
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
A Moment in Crime: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC
Thx
Ana says that she wishes she can go on a mission to Hawaii in a pre combat dialogue. This is a reference to the fact that they do not plan on a Hawaii mission at this time
it's a reference to the fact that Ana wishes she could retire to a tropical island
how do you know this?
what do you mean how do I know this
it's pretty clear from the lore which factions the heroes are part of
She laments that the destination is not Hawaii. Does it play on all maps?
genji stomps lore ladder
from a lore perspective, why did they change mcrees name to cassidy?
he decided to go back to his original name, since he was trying to reform his image
Jesse McCree was his outlaw name
Was sojourn already a person who was known in ow1? She shows up for like a single frame in a short from 2016
She's the one commanding the operation in Storm Rising
there's a fair bit of dialogue between her and the playable team
ohhh ok I didnt know they had her planned that early. just thought it was cool
Because Bap left them
and because Bap is very good at fighting
we see his closest call in What You Left Behind
our first taste of OW2 PVE since 2019
even if it's probably just recycled from OW1
Mccree is his only real name. I don't care how many employees blizzard forced into suicide.
we're getting a new mission
which the devs said will be a taste of what's to come for the PvE
Pve lore what is it
that has me VERY excited
so it probably wont be a wave defense this time around?
Wrath of the Bride
Sounds like my boss's marriage
what is this
the OW2 junkenstein PVE event
does anyone know what short
ah ok thjanks
can i get some lore on junker queen please and thank you wonderful people
But either way, Odessa Stone (I think?) her and her family got kicked out of Junkertown, she comes back, is angy and beats the junker king, the guy who kicked her family out in the reckoning, which is basically an arena brawl, and becomes the queen
is blackwatch and talon the same thing
no
Blackwatch was the black ops part of Overwatch
Talon are a terrorist organization that are the enemies of Overwatch
I see
Will there be a new blackwatch team?
not likely
Blackwatch was a big part of the reason Overwatch got shut down in the first place
if i wanna read the overwatch comics, where do i start n is there a specific order? or does it work like a floating timeline
Anyone tryna play rank
does the pinned comment have every current comic?
yeah they're all in there
What about strike team?
its called recall
When are they going to put Kiriko in ranked?
Wrong channel for that@dusk thicket
it's a language that humans can't read unless they have augmented eyes
Who tryna play rank with me
why is mei fat
why is anyone fat?
so i found an interesting zen voiceline on good ol' twitter
this line reveals why that one submarine skin was an archives skin
and also gives a tiny crumb of a hint as to zen's origin
it means that either his omnium was by the ocean or the omnium was underwater, which was the user
's theory
an underwater omnium is awesome and makes sense as we saw concept art of an underwater location
anyway i just wanted to share this because i thought it was cool
For some reason I always though Blackwatch was a separate entity to Overwatch
nope
I dont think that has any relation to that.
The Underwater Omnium is a theory I loved. Been speculating its tied to the Gwisin
Which is close to Nepal, so it matches Zenyatta's physical location
But Archives 2021 had no relation to the lore
I'm a tad confused on gwishin
most material I've seen on it state that it's a giant monstrosity
basically an omnic kaiju
but shooting star and new blood #5 seem to imply it's just a standard omnic legion
that's kinda why I was a little let down with shooting star
I was hoping we'd get to see it in action
instead we just got some funny looking drones
That wasnt what Id call one of that shorts major flaws
I mean
I'm not saying that
it's just something I personally took issue with
I don't really have much of an opinion on the short
It is one of the worst shorts
this is not the server so be asking this but here goes nothing 💀 im about to release my first song but i need a rap name, any thoughts??
!!loreonly
This channel is for serious discussion strictly related to the lore of Overwatch. Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
How much time is between ow1 and ow2
About a year
Can someone explain mcree and echo’s relationship pls
Cassidy was Dr. Liao and Echo's bodyguard before Overwatch went down
So how did she get broken or turned off
I just watched all the lore and im just trying to fully understand
She wasnt broken
She was shut down after Liao died because people thought she was dangerous
I don’t see his in the shorts link ?
!!loreshorts
Animated Shorts:
Cinematic Trailer: http://bit.ly/1yhzaCC
Recall: http://bit.ly/1T1Aky8
Alive: http://bit.ly/1PSJV5x
Dragons: http://bit.ly/1WAZs3c
Hero: http://bit.ly/1ToCD1E
Last Bastion: http://bit.ly/2b3TsNN
Infiltration: http://bit.ly/2emetBC
Rise and Shine: http://bit.ly/2xcMYoH
Honor and Glory: http://bit.ly/2A4FxRa
Shooting Star: https://bit.ly/2MCgtuP
Reunion: https://bit.ly/2AJhhHo
Zero Hour: https://bit.ly/2JGfNBP
Wastelander: https://bit.ly/3O2Z8HP
Kiriko: https://bit.ly/3SPnLtS
Origin Trailers:
Tracer: http://bit.ly/2fDNQxI
Soldier 76: http://bit.ly/1FpWpDB
Ana: http://bit.ly/29zamjl
Sombra: http://bit.ly/2fMt3aJ
Orisa: http://bit.ly/2liKFy8
King's Row Uprising: http://bit.ly/2p2pukK
Doomfist: http://bit.ly/2tWoWzZ
Moira: http://bit.ly/2hF7GXZ
Brigitte: http://bit.ly/2GSto50
Hammond: https://bit.ly/2lKVlU9
Ashe: https://bit.ly/2F2SPor
Baptiste: https://bit.ly/2TeM1Kq
Sigma: https://bit.ly/2JJTVWE
Echo: https://bit.ly/2IYIwRq
Sojourn: https://bit.ly/3KH4lmY
Junkerqueen: https://bit.ly/3tKMPrA
Kiriko: https://bit.ly/3qTLZXv
Other Videos:
A Moment in Crime - Junkers: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Are You With Us?: http://bit.ly/2fle4Uw
We Are Overwatch: http://bit.ly/1Pd9XmJ
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC
Retribution: https://bit.ly/3SST1bC
Roadtrip: https://bit.ly/2RLk08M
Storm Rising: https://bit.ly/2MLHkEU
@soft nexus 
!!loreguide
He has an origin trailer, no short
Who’s your favorite characters
Lore wise? Or what I play
I haven’t seen all their stories just finished the shorts but off of playing i like moira mcree and echo
I main Sigma and like his story the best, I play Genji, reaper, soldier as well
The brothers have a great story too
also doomfist is a pretty cool character lore wise
Lmao there’s no way i just figured out moira is evil not a anti hero
Yup she’s the most evil prob even more than doomfist
why are there so many lesbian characters?
isn’t there only two
Definitely my favorite ig im evil too
Yes. Tracer and Emily.
yes
Tracer is the only lesbian hero.
Who’s emily
Of course not
I assume you’re new to OW
Oh damn when you start playing
ah
zarya and moira def munch box
Umm idk exactly but recent recent
?
all the other girl characters are borderline
Bro how
@hexed oriole They're not going to make Zarya gay.
Did you buy tires
Zarya def a dyke
I just reqeue
Everyone thinks i did but I didn’t Lmaoo
I swear
I just play a lor
I c
Butso mcree and ashe dont have lika thing ? 😆
No.
Tracer and Soldier are gay.
Reaper, Torbjorn, Widowmaker, Ana are straight. Its implied Genji and Mercy are too.
Who does genji fw
mercy
I gotta watch his story
And Dva Lucio is a thing
Lmao i was gonna say
You sure? I’m pretty sure it’s been hinted at
huh guess not
The only interhero relationship that was teased was Mercy and Genji
Wtf
Yes
Proof
Yup so two hero’s
Short Stories:
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE
Stone By Stone: https://bit.ly/36EsPul
Code of Violence: https://bit.ly/33CeroL
Yōkai:
https://bit.ly/3UDJzKb
Overwatch Novels:
Note: These books are not free, but can be purchased online from a retailer like Amazon (linked)
The Hero of Numbani: https://amzn.to/3lYlzRT
Deadlock Rebels: https://amzn.to/3PRgDMl
Overwatch: Sojourn: https://amzn.to/3z4mc47 RELEASES OCTOBER 11
y’all know what the new tank hero is gonna be next season? People are saying it’s gonna be mauga
Its most likely Mauga
They confirmed they were making Mauga a hero 3 years ago
And he is a tank.
just learned about him yesterday, seems interesting
Also interesting if he plays like the talon heavy units
Damn
He's not a combatant
He wouldnt be a hero
Overwatch doesnt really make heroes out of non-combatants
The only one who was one was Mei.
And she was introduced as a hero before we learned that
What heros were alluded to before thier release? Ik sojourn was in one of the PVE missions
Wait
Most post launch heroes were
So he’s gay but he didn’t get his guy
Usually about a year in advance
That’s fu

