#lore-discussion

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spiral gale
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Didn't know that

keen summit
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look at her design, she has a shoulderpad a omnic skull, she has a omnic hand on her belt and another omnic head on her knees

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junkrat and hog also hate omnics

spiral gale
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Them as a trio would be something so badass to see. And we have yet another australian hero coming

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I hope there's some story mission with them

keen summit
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junkrat and hog tried to steal her stash of money, tried to blow her up etc etc

spiral gale
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Probably not. I meant in the sense of circumstances forcing them to team up even when they hate each other

keen summit
spiral gale
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Yeah I forgot his name, I think it's Gauga?

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Don't know if he's really australian

keen summit
spiral gale
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Oh, my mistake then

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Thought he was one of them

keen summit
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hes from an island forgot which

keen summit
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ball jq hog rat

spiral gale
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Didn't know ball was considered one

keen summit
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well yeah

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he landed in junkertown and became the current mech fighting champ

spiral gale
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Sounds cool, I wasn't aware of where he is in the lore rn

keen summit
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also appearantly ana has been there too

keen summit
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thats all we know

spiral gale
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then he's just out there

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living his life

keen summit
spiral gale
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Oh I remember I saw an friendly interaction between him and Queen yesterday, while playing

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That's what it's about then

keen summit
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the main enxt hero candidates we have now are mauga sanjay Hamid maximillian and storm rising omnic

keen summit
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hes part of her squad

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might be wrong if he went adventuring though

spiral gale
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She just told him she wanted an new armor built and he said he wanted an real challenge next time

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Kinda funny

keen summit
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hammond is a genius

crisp axle
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I asked someone to play Kiriko when I was playing Hammond but the legendary voice interaction didn’t trigger ☹️

keen summit
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oh forgot maximus and zephyrus as hero candidates

spiral gale
keen summit
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hanzo and orisa have a good one

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hanzo wants to ride orisa

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not in a dirty way tho

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as horse

spiral gale
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good to know it isn't in that way

keen summit
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yunaru want to know about the current hero candidates?

spiral gale
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ofc

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pretty sure I don't know nothing about any of them, judging by the names

iron plume
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There's not much known about most of them

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Mauga is the one big exception
The others, even if we know their names, there's not a lot more than that

keen summit
iron plume
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I still think Maxi's hero chances died with Storm Rising

keen summit
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sanjay is a coworker of symmetra in vishkar, the hardlight company basically, who also works with talon. Everything we know from vishkar he can do too basically

iron plume
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He can't do the same things as Symmetra, she's considered to be the most talented architech
Sanjay may have more brute power though

keen summit
keen summit
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he could cuz of that be any role too

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the other way he could work in story is that he himself might not fight but he well gets hardlight tech from vishkar for talon. So say we get another talon tank or a talon support who uses alot of hardlight that sanjay got for him/her

clear kestrel
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I dunno why folks even thought Maxi had a chance of becoming a playable hero
he's just not that kind of character

keen summit
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you could make him pilot a kinda robotic suit from a far, you could make him be forced to fight, you could make it so that he prefers not to but say null sector has a way of gaining influence on omnics etc there are tons of ways

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hes less likely than say mauga or even maximus or zephyrus, but he always has a way of getting in. Imagine a long range controlled omnic that he in lore controls like a game. Make the omnic be based on casino elements, call him Dealer or sum and bam. His reason for fighting? he doesnt want to be attacked and so had to strike a deal with doomfist cuz doom dont care bout casino, money etc while thats his thing. So yeah that could be a way.

clear kestrel
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what's the current status of the junkers in universe currently

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I know in-game interactions arent (for the most part) "canon" but junkrat atleast seems a lot more tolerant of omnics than he was previously

keen summit
vapid bridge
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I want more heroes from the shimada clan, their always so cool

keen summit
vapid bridge
keen summit
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its unlikely to say the least

vapid bridge
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nooooooo

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I want more badass characters

keen summit
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there is a chance but well it seems like that really is done for now

vapid bridge
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yeha

keen summit
vapid bridge
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guns aren’t badass unless it’s mccaasidy

keen summit
vapid bridge
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whaaat

keen summit
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cuz hes just stereotypes really

vapid bridge
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idk man he’s fast and has a sword

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that does it for me

vapid bridge
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he’s so sick in the cinematic

keen summit
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yeah it is but yea

keen summit
vapid bridge
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kinda

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but genji just slices up robots at light speed

keen summit
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imagine if mei could freeze the environment like she does in her short etc

vapid bridge
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I like the fast ones

vapid bridge
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she’s underrated

keen summit
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i thought u meant dragons

vapid bridge
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same with Hans

keen summit
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doom though?

vapid bridge
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I like melee

keen summit
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have u seen his origin story?

vapid bridge
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I have but it’s been a while

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I forgor 💀

keen summit
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he throws a whole car door at genji

vapid bridge
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BAHAHA OFC

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genji slices it tho

keen summit
vapid bridge
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probly

keen summit
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it took an entire squad to take him down

vapid bridge
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realistically tho, if tracer or genji literally attacked him once instead of saving around like idiots he’s be dead

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their so fast that strength doesn’t matter

keen summit
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doomfist legit could predict tracers movements

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and he realised that genji couldnt keep dodging in the air

vapid bridge
keen summit
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the entire time

vapid bridge
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oh well that’s just plot armor

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if you get shot by a laser gun you just die

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same if it’s a laser sword

keen summit
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no?

vapid bridge
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well he’s a tank now

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so I guess it makes more sense now

keen summit
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its not a laser sword and keep in mind we've seen people take hits from soldiers pulse rifle

vapid bridge
keen summit
vapid bridge
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makes sense

keen summit
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doomfist only has a few people on his level

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orisa and winston are above him basically

vapid bridge
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Actually, that’s so boring their so slow

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I only like fast people

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because realistically

keen summit
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genji is stronger in raw power and speed but not strong enough against him

vapid bridge
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😭

keen summit
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in lore

vapid bridge
keen summit
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her prototype already beat him

vapid bridge
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spin big spear

keen summit
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in the past she was about using her shield

vapid bridge
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oh yeah I forgot about ow1 orisa

keen summit
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yeah

vapid bridge
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so boring

keen summit
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basically doom is super powerfull

vapid bridge
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yeah

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but not when I fight him in game 😎

keen summit
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but orisa is the only one who can easily go against him cuz well, she was made for that purpose

vapid bridge
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I’m da best tracer da world has seen

keen summit
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sigma also is insanely powerfull

vapid bridge
keen summit
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we always forget how powerfull characters are in lore

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symmetra would surprise you

vapid bridge
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she bores me to death

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never even watched her cinematic

keen summit
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if she actually would use her max power

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she has a comic

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she can create bridges and so much more

vapid bridge
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I’m goingf all out nefxt time🤓

vapid bridge
keen summit
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she never does, because well why would she

keen summit
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if she wanted to she could create a shit ton of spears and just fire em off

vapid bridge
keen summit
vapid bridge
keen summit
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but hardlight is so versatile

vapid bridge
keen summit
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and shes mentioned to have a special skill for it

vapid bridge
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oh yeah but tracer has time power

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so

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it’s ggs

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actually, what even is tracers power

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it’s just sped up time

keen summit
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no

vapid bridge
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and then rewind

keen summit
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let me explain

vapid bridge
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k

keen summit
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basically she was part of a expiriment for time travel, it kinda worked except that she now was basically glitched in time. So she kept fading in and out switching in time and what time she was in. Her chronal accelerator allows her to control where she is in time. so if she wants to be somewhere else she can be there because in the future she would be there, if she is hurts she goes back in time to a point where she was.

vapid bridge
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ahh ok

keen summit
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she cant matrix or sum she always moves in same time as everyone else so she doesnt have insane reflexes she just can teleport or go back in time for short time, however she cant go far back with control over it cuz well her chronal accelerator cant do that.

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thats why in the doom video it was so scary for tracer to lose it and why winston lost it

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after that winston had to wait till he finally found tracer again and make a new one

ashen tulip
keen summit
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but i like doomfist the most cuz everything in his fight felt like him analysing and noticing Thats how they work.
he beat genji by well noticing he dodges alot and that he can jump well + he can cut in the air but not recover fast enough most likely because he also only threw one set of kunais while going off the building. that made him choose to throw him into the air with debris meaning he couldnt dodge. Tracer he waited till he understood where she would go next. He fights tactically instead of just attacking.

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im still against that doom lost to winston though. Like orisa was made to go against him but winston?

uncut geode
quartz forge
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Did Cassidy use to work with Ashe?

karmic blade
quartz forge
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Ahh okay, what made Cassidy leave?

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I don’t know much about lore I just know that they worked together then they didn’t

karmic blade
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i’m not too sure actually but if you look it up i bet it’ll tell you a bit more abt it

unique plinth
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Which melody was Sigma talking about in his cinematic trailer?

formal heart
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Just look up sigmas melody on YouTube, it’ll play it, essentially it’s like a sound he repeatedly hears when doing his black hole research and it’s engraved in his mind

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Overwatch would be loads more fun if the heroes had their uncapped abilities from comics and cinematics

opal flax
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Whats in your Opinion the strongest Talon member?

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Doomfist or Sigma?

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Doomfist has a Hella OP weapon and is strong af

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While being calculated and calm in battle

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Sigma controls gravity and is scientist

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Doomfist took on 3 Overwatch agents at once

tall hedge
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does anyone know the name of the song they used for the ow cinematic for kiriko, not the main song but the one during her ulti

keen summit
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Doomfist vs sigma is really hard cuz we havent seen sigma in combat yet in lore

iron plume
keen summit
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I do think maximillian and sanjay could be efi cases, aka theyre not the hero but important in lore for a hero or group. For example sanjay gives hard light tech to heroes

dense nebula
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You know what you make a good point

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Talon are the heroes

limpid agate
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Not just works with

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Sanjay is on the council of leaders

iron plume
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@feral kestrel Wrong channel

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!!lfg

twilit nacelleBOT
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LOOKING FOR GROUP

If you are looking for people to play with, assign yourself an LFG role in #roles-old!

dense nebula
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How much you wanna bet he has some weird hard light pet named Craig back there with him?

iron plume
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I don't think his skill/precision with hard light is enough for that

limpid agate
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Yeah I'll bet against that

dense nebula
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Smh there goes Sanjay and Craig

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Cancelled again

keen summit
grand wedge
gusty pier
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Is kikoro and genji freinds and is kikiro and hanzo freinds

grand wedge
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Kiriko is the daughter of Genji & Hanzo swordmaster - so Kiriko trained with them sometimes

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She was closer to Genji tho

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They consider her like a little niece

exotic bone
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Why did mccree name get changed

hallow tusk
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Do tracer and Winston have a thing going on

hallow tusk
exotic bone
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Interesting.

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I’m still calling him mccree

hallow tusk
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I legit just started ow so in game i just call him cowboy guy or high noon guy

grand wedge
spiral gale
grand wedge
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They are friends

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Tracer has a girlfriend, Emily

dense nebula
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Who tf in their right mind would want to bang an ape?

spiral gale
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not only Tracer dates Emily but why in the earth would Blizzard pair an human with an ape in an romantic way

hallow tusk
# grand wedge No

Thank god, one of my friends told me this and was really convincing and i was like no way

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LISTEN my friend was being really convincing

grand wedge
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You got baited ahaha

hallow tusk
dense nebula
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Your friend has Speech 100 with the Masque of Clavicus Vile on then

spiral gale
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I hope your friend doesn't try to convince you that Cassidy dates Echo as well, just because they had an call out for romantic cowboy movie endings in that short

grand wedge
hallow tusk
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If anything i assumed cassidy and ashe HAD a thing

spiral gale
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Yeah that's what pretty much everyone assumes, but they hadn't

hallow tusk
dense nebula
spiral gale
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It's kinda implied that they may have an unresolved thing for each other, but they never dated

dense nebula
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And you know how China can be

spiral gale
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And she's heavily angry at him right now, not in a horny way but a disappointed way

hallow tusk
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Damn being angry in a horny way, that wasnt a possibility that came to mind before

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Anyway

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I kindaaa wanna learn ow lore more, where can i look

dense nebula
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Me personally, I think video game romance is crap

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Way too much focus on it compared to gameplay these days

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Look at Apex for an example, and that God awful love triangle plot

hallow tusk
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I cant really think of any game romance, then again i havent played toooo many games

spiral gale
hallow tusk
hallow tusk
dense nebula
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It was so bad and lasted for way too long

hallow tusk
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I legit didnt jnow apex had a love triangle
i know this is an ow server but can you like atleast say the characters

rotund zephyr
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Why did Hanzo kill Genji?

gusty pier
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It was hes duty

hallow tusk
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Question, the dragon fairytale we see in hanzo and genji's vid is just a fairytale right, that parallels with their story
Instead of being an implication that hanzo and genji are the dragons

peak escarp
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it's just a story

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Genji and Hanzo are not literally dragons

crisp axle
void ore
peak escarp
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those are spirit dragons

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like Kiriko's spirit fox

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the brothers themselves are not dragons disguised as humans

void ore
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I heard doomfist one tapped genji?

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Is that true?

peak escarp
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he threw Genji into a car

void ore
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Oh haha

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Could Genji win against Reaper in a duel?

peak escarp
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probably not

void ore
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Y

cosmic arch
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Kiriko is class, they did such a good job designing her

peak escarp
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because Reaper is pretty much unkillable, and a much more experienced fighter than Genji

void ore
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Oh yeah

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I don't mean kill but just like

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Outclass him in a duel

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Lol

dense nebula
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A vacuum when he goes ghost mode?

peak escarp
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we don't know if he can be killed

worthy rose
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Also I think 2 shotguns beat out a sword

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Is ow actually the old IRA?

peak escarp
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IRA?

worthy rose
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All depends who gets the first shot

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Reaper took out a big mech in the Sombra short

peak escarp
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but Reaper worked with Genji - he would be able to predict Genji's moves

worthy rose
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that to

worthy rose
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He cut a massive mechs hand in zero hour

worthy rose
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and realistically Genji can deflect bullets but could he deflect a massive spread of bullets reliably

peak escarp
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Genji isn't as tactical

worthy rose
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He doesn't need to deflect. He can dodge it if need be

peak escarp
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he's less of a thinker more of a doer

dreamy epoch
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I think genji is still pretty smart but reaper would have more info

peak escarp
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Reaper probably has plans on how he would fight everyone he's ever known

worthy rose
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Like Batman?

peak escarp
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he's like Batman if Batman could turn into smoke and had a massive rage issue

dreamy epoch
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so batma-

worthy rose
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Alright I'll concede then. Reaper should beat Genji

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Its not a stomp though imo

peak escarp
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no Genji would be able to get some damage on Reaper, he's skilled enough for that

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but Reaper would win

graceful basin
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Does anyone know if there is like a full lore movie type shiz on youtube anywhere?

worthy rose
broken dagger
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speaking of reaper, how come reaper didnt win against Winston? other than the fact that blizzard couldnt just make a video about winston dying

peak escarp
# graceful basin Does anyone know if there is like a full lore movie type shiz on youtube anywher...

https://youtu.be/4wVaqOQS-xU

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The Overwatch 2 lore, timeline and story has evolved and grown through so many media, it can be hard to keep track! Here's a complete Overwatch lore timeline up to the launch of Overwatch 2, encompassing 8 years of Overwatch interactions, voice-lines, environmental storytelling, Overwatch animated shorts, comics, short stories, novels, twitter t...

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worthy rose
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this better

iron plume
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It really isn't

peak escarp
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it's 1:46 long, so it's definitely a movie

peak escarp
molten shore
graceful basin
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ty so much

worthy rose
peak escarp
worthy rose
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Yeah he's kind of the strongest Overwatch character imo bar Symmetra

dense nebula
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Hot take: Tracer is the weakest

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Can’t even exist without a fragile device

worthy rose
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She disarmed and defeated Widowmaker though

dense nebula
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Only because she caught her by surprise didn’t she?

worthy rose
peak escarp
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because Widowmaker had already accomplished her mission

worthy rose
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In the museum cinematic no. She failed to steal the Doomfist gauntlet and was disarmed by Tracer

peak escarp
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oh that one

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yeah she was able to out-fight Widowmaker

worthy rose
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I'd say the weakest (At least in combat) Is Mercy

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McDonalds?

peak escarp
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yes

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whoops wrong chat

dreamy epoch
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tracer really could have stopped widowmaker but yknow

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they gotta have a short somehow

peak escarp
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power levels are subject to the whims of the plot

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every hero is only as strong or as weak as the plot needs them to be

dense nebula
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Hot take: biggest chad in OW lore is Balderich von Adler

spiral gale
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Anyone else would have died inside the exploding robot

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Going back in time without reverting what you did is a pretty powerful move if you ask me

white cobalt
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Forgot this is coming

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spiral gale
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is it gonna be a graphic novel

iron plume
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no

spiral gale
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then a regular novel?

iron plume
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yes

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also it seems to be delayed

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some places have changed the release date to early november

spiral gale
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I wasn't aware of Deadlock Rebels until now. Is it canon?

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Might buy it

iron plume
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yes

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so is Hero of Numbani
they're official stories

spiral gale
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I see, never heard about them until now

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They weren't published in my country, wonder if I'm gonna do just fine reading it in english

worthy rose
austere obsidian
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reaper is a very sad sad man

west schooner
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Reaper is a loser

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Waa waa waa trauma trauma put back together trauma. He’s so dramatic

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He just needs to sit down and have a cookie. I bet that’ll make him feel better

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🍪

worthy rose
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I mean he has the new emote

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man if this games monetization wasn't so shit i'd get the BP just for that Reaper emote

worthy rose
# west schooner Reaper is a loser

He destroyed a Mech which is suppose to be one of Russia's most powerful weapons, defeated base Winston, and matched Tracer. Definitely not a loser

west schooner
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Proof?

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👶

past copper
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So, it’s seems it’s all but confirmed the next tank hero to be revealed for OW2 season 2 will be Mauga

worthy rose
past copper
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Keller did say the hero was a male tank we’ve seen before and who else could it be other than Mauga

west schooner
worthy rose
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How?

west schooner
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Both the agony and the cookie

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Simply because I do not like him

worthy rose
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He does not deserve to be in eternal agony

west schooner
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But I will let him partake in the cookie

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I disagree

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I believe he does

worthy rose
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Reaper deserves redemption

west schooner
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He hurt the funny monkey

worthy rose
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What did Reaper did that was so evil?

west schooner
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Reaper hurt the monkey

worthy rose
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Not evil

past copper
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Anyone else think he looks like Dwayne Johnson should voice him?

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west schooner
west schooner
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Yes

worthy rose
west schooner
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I want him to sing

west schooner
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Personally

worthy rose
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Reaper deserves happiness

west schooner
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Reaper is pretty cool

cinder raven
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ow look is okay

west schooner
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But I think he definitely needs some moral changes

worthy rose
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Yeah

west schooner
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Genji already got his redemption

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Which I think is super cool

dark lichen
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👏 Reaper redemption arc in PvE story 👏

west widget
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Is Cassidy an orphan?

west schooner
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Who is Cassidy

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You mean MY MAIN MAN MCCREE

west widget
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Mcree

west schooner
west widget
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Yes

dark lichen
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Casserole Mcrassidy.

west schooner
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I will call him mccree forever

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It sounds cooler

west widget
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It does

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MCREE

west schooner
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Or maybe I’ll go with McDonalds

cinder raven
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top 5 lore games
titan fall 2 and apex
Halo
LOL
OW
God of war

west widget
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Who do you main?

west schooner
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BAWB DO SOMFEN

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I main HANZo

west widget
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Lol I main genji

west schooner
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I also like using Reinhardt

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Let’s goo

west widget
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My trump card is junk rat

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I use him when I'm really pissed at someone

dark lichen
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Need I remind you this is the ⭐ lore ⭐ channel.

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Lore =/= gameplay

west schooner
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Oh ofc my b

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Lore wise

west widget
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Gtg

west schooner
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Genji super sucky

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But not as super sucky as reaper

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You know who is super duper sucky

cinder raven
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titanfall 2 and LOl has best lore in video games imo

west schooner
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That doomfist fella

west schooner
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Or warhammer

dark lichen
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Genji is pretty sick. Man got killed, then didn't, travelled the world for enlightenment, became the disciple of Robo Jesus and accepted he was a cool cyborg ninja dude.

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Then can deflect energy blasts from 100ft robots.

cinder raven
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bilzzard just need learn how write imo

west schooner
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I like red more

dark lichen
west schooner
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LETS GO

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RED GENJI TIME

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Wait

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Oh yeah I forgot

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He even plays games with DVa

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He truly is a gamer

dark lichen
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He was killed because he was a gamer.

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That's his whole backstory.

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I'm not kidding.

west schooner
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Lies

dark lichen
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Allow me to elaborate.

west schooner
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Why he actually dishonor his family

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Alright

dark lichen
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He didn't help out with the Shimada clan, namely his father and his brother; Hanzo, and spent his free time at arcades, chilling around town, etc.

west schooner
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Let’s gooo

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So they killed him for it

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💀

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That’s dumb

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Gotta be more to it than that

dark lichen
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When his father died and Hanzo and Genji had to pick up the mantle, Genji refused his responsibilities, which then the Shimada elders told Hanzo to deal with him, by either getting him to get his act straight or kill him.

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Clearly Genji preferred video games because, well, they ended up fighting.

west schooner
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Oh

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Just let my man be a rebel

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Hanzo a real buzzkill

dark lichen
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Mhm. Hanzo shortly left the Shimada clan, he couldn't forgive himself what what he did. The Shimada clan quickly crumbled and was taken over by the rival gang; Hashamoto? Or something like that. The same people shown in the Kiriko short.

west schooner
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Hanzo a real one for that

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Honestly

dark lichen
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Mhm. He has a lot of voicelines in-game when in the spawn room expressing his grief.

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A lot of sweet ones with Ana.

west schooner
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Shimada clan elders didn’t know they legit needed to not kill off their own heir

dark lichen
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Boomers be like

west schooner
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Boomers

dark lichen
west schooner
#

Doomfist is a loser lore wise

#

Cause he doesn’t have TWO giant hands

dark lichen
#

Ehhh, he's very formidable.

#

The giant hand (The Doomfist) is a heirloom of sorts.

#

And also a title.

#

The very first 'Doomfist' was a good guy that defended Numbani.

#

However he was defeated and a bad guy took it.

west schooner
#

👶

dark lichen
#

Then Akande (Doomfist's real name) was taken under his wing, which he then eventually betrayed him and took the fist for himself.

#

So there's been 3 doomfists in the history of Overwatch.

west schooner
#

So he’s even worse

#

Or he’s doing it for good

dark lichen
#

Well, he sees his actions as good, a necessary act.

#

He sees the world as something that needs to be reshaped through conflict and war.

west schooner
#

Oh so he’s evil

#

Ok cool

dark lichen
#

For the most part, yes. His morals are definitely seen as evil.

west schooner
#

Yknow who definitely is evil

dark lichen
#

Who?

west schooner
#

Mercy

dark lichen
#

Ohoho, we're going there?

west schooner
#

I don’t trust that giant needle of hers

#

Huh

dark lichen
#

I honestly think she has some dark secrets.

west schooner
#

Well she put back together reaper

#

Genji

dark lichen
#

Nononono

west schooner
#

And others right

#

Or was that moira

dark lichen
#

Moira made Widow and Reaper into what they are.

west schooner
#

Ohhh ok ok

#

What did mercy do

#

She must’ve saved genji then

dark lichen
#

Mercy saved Genji, yes.

west schooner
#

Moira looks like Coralines Other Mother

dark lichen
#

The story about how that happened is a little cloudy and not many details are canon, but I think he was saved when Overwatch stormed Hanamura to seize the Shimada clan.

west schooner
#

Let’s gooo

dark lichen
#

Moira is 100% the most evil character though.

west schooner
#

Whattt

#

Moira is like

#

The wine aunt tho

#

Who really enjoys Halloween

dark lichen
#

She has no morality. She is willing to do anything to get her way.

west schooner
#

Ah

#

Evil

#

Not unless I pull the oldest card in the book

dark lichen
#

The only reason why she's working for Talon is just so she can get funding for her work.

west schooner
#

“I can change her.”

dark lichen
#

She cannot care less what Doomfist's plan is.

west schooner
#

What is her work

#

Oh right doomfist leads talon?

dark lichen
#

Yes.

west schooner
#

That’s dumb

#

Man is a walking hand

#

Just kill him

dark lichen
#

He's very smart and cunning.

#

He may look like his a big brawny dude with a big fist.

west schooner
#

I see

dark lichen
#

But he's been calculating the whole war which sparks the events of the Overwatch 2 PvE since the beginning.

#

Anyways, about Moira..

west schooner
#

Oh

#

Crap

dark lichen
#

She's a scientist that specialises in biology. Her whole line of research is pushing the human body to it's limits. For what purpose? We don't know. But she has been an incredibly controversial figure in the Overwatch world.

#

She was kicked out of Overwatch for having too radical ideas and pursuing dangerous lines of research.

west schooner
#

Uh oh

dark lichen
#

However Blackwatch (the undercover Overwatch group) picked her up to help out on secret missions).

#

And then after that, she left and joined Talon to continue research, which included creating Widowmaker by brainwashing the wife of one of the main figure heads of Overwatch to kill him in his sleep..

#

And saving Gabrielle from certain death, turning him into Reaper.

#

She has no chill and takes no crap from nobody.

west schooner
#

Wait black watch is a secret overwatch group

#

By overwatch

#

Or

dark lichen
#

Yes.

west schooner
#

Secret from overwatch

dark lichen
#

To undergo more... covert missions to keep world peace.

hollow tapir
#

Is X-men beast inspiration for overwatch Winston?

west schooner
#

And widowmaker was the wife of the dead figure head

dark lichen
#

Or something like that.

west schooner
#

Let’s kill moira

#

Widowmaker would like it I think

dark lichen
#

Eh, well. If she wasn't brainwashed, then I'd imagine yes. But in her current state, she's petrified of Moira.

#

Every interaction Widow has with Moira, she seems afraid of her, answering quickly with little pauses.

#

Kinda scary.

#

And same with Reaper, to a lesser extent. He seems angry at her, but also somewhat afraid.

#

I honestly would love a Talon cinematic, where we get to see all the main Talon heroes interact with each other.

#

See what Talon is like behind the scenes when not causing havoc across the world.

worthy rose
west schooner
#

Nah

west schooner
#

That’s where Winston, Mercy, and Tracer come in honestly

primal escarp
#

Widow's the OW universe's version of Bucky Barnes

#

only issue tho is that Widow killed the only person she loved, so kinda hard to bring her back through that method

peak escarp
#

Widowmaker is beyond redemption

primal escarp
#

well, i wouldnt say that

#

Hanzo and Genji quite literally came from a crime family, with Hanzo almost killing his own brother

#

everyone deserves a second chance

#

however naive that may sound

clear kestrel
#

eh

#

I'd argue Widow is too far gone

#

she doesn't want redemption
and it's not like she'd magically just revert back to being Amelie Lacroix

#

Genji and Hanzo were part of a crime family yes but last I checked
they didn't get a thrill out of assassinating a dogmatic pacifist that wanted to unite humans and omnics

peak escarp
#

yeah

#

Hanzo actually wants redemption

#

Widowmaker just wants to kill

clear kestrel
#

the conditioning does seem to be wearing off

peak escarp
#

somewhat

clear kestrel
#

but that might just be allowing her to have emotions
I don't think it affects her lack of morality

peak escarp
#

her emotions do slip through on occasion

clear kestrel
#

but we'll see

#

maybe there's something planned for her

#

that said I wouldn't say she's "beyond" redemption
she just doesn't want it

#

I find Zens interaction with Reaper very interesting

worthy rose
#

Someone always cares
just gotta seek them out

unique plinth
#

Which melody was sigma talking about in his cinematic?

#

Ik im 3 years late

clear kestrel
#

we don't know

worthy rose
#

just some song that is stuck in his head

clear kestrel
#

I like to imagine it was the audio frequency of a black hole he heard

unique plinth
#

I heard its a song that his other personality plays in his head to distract him and take over his mind

worthy rose
#

some by-product of his psychosis

#

maybe it's the song that plays during his OW1 intro that THEY REMOVED for SOME REASON

#

I loved that intro
the new one is cool but keep the music man

#

that same song, albeit extended plays throughout his short

tired sonnet
worthy rose
#

the song itself has a repeated motif

#

I think more than likely that is what is on repeat in his head

#

also just noticed upon re-watching this cinematic

deft snow
worthy rose
#

Sigma's name was his identification or whatever when he was imprisoned

#

actually makes sense
one of his legendaries is called Subject Sigma iirc

#

the asylum one that's orange

clear kestrel
#

I hope he appears in more supplementary material

worthy rose
#

he has the greek letter for sigma on his prison uniform

clear kestrel
#

aside from the sojourn novel are there any more short stories planned?

#

or comics?

peak escarp
#

there's Overwatch: Declassified

#

which is supposed to cover the complete timeline

#

but it got delayed and we don't currently know the release date

primal escarp
#

but the issue is, she has no emotions or will of her own

#

she's just nothing more than a living weapon

#

she's conditioned to kill

peak escarp
#

she does have free will

#

she went to Gerard's grave on her own

#

she bought her family's manor on her own

primal escarp
#

👀

#

i was not aware of this

cunning fable
#

Good this chat room is calm and collected APPLECATRUN

peak escarp
primal escarp
#

i see

pure snow
#

Does Winston canonically know about wrecking ball (Hammond)

peak escarp
#

yes

#

well

paper gazelle
peak escarp
#

he knew Hammond back on the lunar colony

#

but he doesn't canonically know that Hammond followed him to earth

primal escarp
#

doesnt he know about the extra drag tho?

peak escarp
peak escarp
primal escarp
#

yeah yeah, that line

paper gazelle
peak escarp
#

it's not like rockets have rear-view mirrors

paper gazelle
#

Btw I might be wrong but I think I've heard of an interaction between Winston and Hammond in which Winston pondered what went wrong with their relationship or sth? Kinda forgot

peak escarp
#

Hammond blames him for leaving him behind on the moon

#

the interactions aren't canon in that they're not conversations that have actually happened

#

they're more like "what if"s

#

if Hammond met Winston again, here's what they might say

surreal ferry
#

What’s ashes lore

paper gazelle
#

Ohh

surreal ferry
#

Need me a lore master

peak escarp
#

she was the heiress of an arms company who got disowned by her parents because she was a troublemaker, so she decided to start a gang and steal back her inheritance

worthy rose
#

and Bob?

surreal ferry
peak escarp
#

Bob was her family's butler

surreal ferry
#

Thank you for your knowledge

peak escarp
#

he was more loyal to her than her parents, so when she left Bob went with her

surreal ferry
#

W bob

worthy rose
#

like Alfred

worldly hawk
worthy rose
#

also Bob as
just a butler?
he seems overequipped for the job

#

unless his 2 wrist cannons were some modification after he left with Ashe

peak escarp
#

they were

worldly hawk
#

Hey and in the overwatch lore ( Canon and everything lol) does Soldier 76 speaks to everyone sometimes mean I think and not in a good mood , except for Ana right?
Or have he spoke with Ana in the serious mode? lol

#

It's just a question that came to my mind haha

worthy rose
#

he seems to have a similar demeanor with everyone though on a gradient

simple kraken
#

ANYONE HAS ILLIDAN GENJI SKIN I BUY FOR ANY PRICE TO 1000$

peak escarp
#

Soldier is just like that

#

he's very jaded

clear kestrel
#

he also seems intent on placing the blame for what happened on everyone BUT himself

worthy rose
#

does he?

clear kestrel
#

I mean he tried to place the blame on Genji lol

#

Genji even calls him out on it

worthy rose
#

I mean Soldier wasn't fully wrong

clear kestrel
#

"and now the world pays for your actions"
"in that... we are the same"

peak escarp
#

it's hilarious that Soldier thinks Genji was in any kind of position to stop what Blackwatch was doing

clear kestrel
#

also that too lol

peak escarp
#

Genji was just a living weapon

#

in Venice, he had no idea what was going on

worthy rose
#

also I think if Soldier didn't in some part feel responsible in some capacity for what happened he wouldn't be waging war on talon on a solo crusade

clear kestrel
peak escarp
#

if anyone could be blamed for not stopping Reyes, it would be Cassidy

clear kestrel
#

it's not just Talon

#

it's anyone he considers responsible for OWs downfall

clear kestrel
peak escarp
#

yeah

clear kestrel
#

that's incredibly unreasonable

peak escarp
#

I'm not saying he could

clear kestrel
#

then I'd say it's not fair to place the blame on him either

peak escarp
#

I'm just saying that if Soldier was going to blame anyone, he should be going after Cassidy, not Genji

#

Cassidy was Reyes's right hand man

clear kestrel
#

do you think Reyes made the right call shooting bartalotti
like in hindsight obviously not but in the heat of the moment
was there realistically anything else he could have done?

#

taking him in wouldn't have accomplished anything

peak escarp
#

I think Antonio was right - even if they locked him up, it wouldn't achieve anything

worthy rose
#

I think maybe blasting him out of the window wasn't the right call

#

but maybe Reyes was somewhat reasonable in wanting to off him

clear kestrel
#

no I think killing him was the right call

#

they could've
been more subtle about it tho

peak escarp
#

I can understand the impulse

#

yeah

#

blasting him out the window just made it a spectacle

#

better to execute him quietly

clear kestrel
#

like the issue imo wasn't killing bartalotti
it was making it a spectacle yea

#

Gabe could have just strangled him

worthy rose
#

or you know

#

Moira is right there

peak escarp
#

they had Genji right there

clear kestrel
#

exactly

worthy rose
#

who can silently suck the life out of him

peak escarp
#

a trained assassin

clear kestrel
#

and no-one knows Moira is employed in blackwatch

#

so they'd have no idea what really happened to him

fleet frost
#

how did Lucio lose his legs

worldly hawk
#

Yeah

Does Ana blames Gabe too as Jack?
I know his responsible lol but just asking.

worldly hawk
fleet frost
#

oh

worthy rose
fleet frost
#

why are they robot

worldly hawk
#

Armor? I think

fleet frost
#

okay

worthy rose
#

they are just really bulky equipment connected in some way to his roller skates

worldly hawk
fleet frost
#

diddnt he steal them from symmetra

worldly hawk
#

Nope just his gun that his father create

#

Like he didn't still at all he just took it cuz it was his father creation.

tropic fulcrum
#

is the little deaf girl in kirikos cinematic her in the past?

clear kestrel
#

what?
no?

tropic fulcrum
#

i didnt watch it

peak escarp
#

why would it be her in the past

#

Kiriko isn't a time traveler

tropic fulcrum
#

i saw the clip of her getting the headband and thought it was something she had as a kid

molten shore
#

Wait so what's Ana and Pharahs current relationship

peak escarp
#

Ana is Pharah's mother

molten shore
#

No not like that I mean do they talk in person

peak escarp
#

it's... complicated

#

they have reunited though

molten shore
#

Like a don't talk to me mom phase?

peak escarp
#

Pharah knows she's still alive

#

but she's mad that Ana stayed in hiding for so long

molten shore
#

Oh I see

#

Was Ana not there for her when she was a kid

clear kestrel
#

she was
for the most part

#

I don't know how old Pharah was when Ana "died"

#

Pharah is just understandably pissed that her mother has been alive this whole time and never thought to contact her until this very moment

peak escarp
#

Ana "died" 6 years ago

#

Pharah is 32 now, so she would have been 26

worthy rose
#

what even was the point

#

like i get she lost the sniper duel (skill issue)

#

but is that really the 1 thing that made her fake her death

limpid agate
#

She got temporary amnesia too

#

But when she got past it, she decided it was better she stayed dead

worthy rose
#

still not entirely following her logic

mystic dagger
#

I think Ana faking her death was related to the Overwatch controversy

#

And Talon being out for her head

worthy rose
#

yeah all that but still
putting all your friends and beloved husband and daughter through the pain of thinking you were dead for 6 years because "I needed time"
I might be missing a huge piece of the puzzle here but just
I just don't follow quite

dense nebula
#

So if Orisa was built specifically to fight Doomfist, does that immediately make her stronger than most of the Overwatch members?

#

Considering Doomfist is one of, if not, the strongest character in the lore?

peak escarp
#

yep

dense nebula
#

I want to see an animated short where it’s just them duking it out

#

The Unstoppable Force vs the Immovable object

limpid agate
#

Orisa, Winston, Symmetra, and Sigma I'd say are the 4 contenders

dense nebula
#

I’d argue Doomfist is up there purely for his tactical mind

limpid agate
#

He isnt

#

He lost to Winston in a fist fight, and that was when he had the Doomfist gauntlet

dense nebula
#

You make it sound like he lost in one punch

limpid agate
#

His punch collided with Winston's

#

And he lost that encounter

#

Winston's raw primal strength rivals the Doomfist gauntlet

dense nebula
#

Well knowing Doomfist’s philosophy, he’ll just keep evolving and growing stronger

limpid agate
#

So would Winston

peak escarp
#

probably Mei

#

due to lack of combat experience

sharp trench
#

mei is the least sensical hero to be in OW imo

dense nebula
#

I really want today Tracer is also weak due to her biggest strength also being her biggest weakness

#

One Doomfist exploited

formal rain
peak escarp
#

Winston is a genetically enhanced gorilla

dense nebula
#

Winston is arguable the strongest character in Overwatch

#

Both in lore and in game

desert yacht
#

it'd be funny as fuck if power block was something doomfist canonically started doing after escaping prison because he got his ass handed to him by winston

dense nebula
#

It would show he’s adapting and improving his fighting style

#

Like Hit

molten shore
#

So how does reapers reload work I heard some where that he can turn matter into new guns but I think that was a fan idea

#

Also how does his ult work lore wise like in the one museum trailer

shell cipher
#

his guns follow him into his wraith so it probably means that him and the gun are one and the same, though there's probably a real answer somewhere and im just speculating

#

and im thinking his ult is similar, with enough stored up cells from the people he's killed he releases all of it at once like a burst

peak escarp
#

that's a good explanation as any

#

I don't think they'll ever tell us exactly how it works

dense nebula
#

They prob don’t even know fully

molten shore
#

It for sure isn't the coat one

shell cipher
#

def not, but it would be funny to see hundreds of shotguns in his coat

molten shore
#

Wait

#

Would that mean reaper got a ability similar to Moria and her self healing from damage

#

Or is morias healing from damage not Canon

shell cipher
#

i dont know if her self heal is canon but i think she siphons health off someone else rather than healing from damage. reaper just collects the cells of those he kills

molten shore
#

Oh I see

#

Ohhh

#

Part of me was thinking what if moria used reaper as a test subject since they're kinda similar in a way

shell cipher
#

yeah he was probably a test subject, since i think he was gonna die anyways if moira didnt help him

#

so she thought why not

peak escarp
#

Moira is the reason Reaper has his wraith form

shell cipher
#

whats the relationship between hanzo n genji? like are they actively taking part in each other's lives right now or are they just doin their own things

peak escarp
#

Genji went back to Overwatch

#

we don't know what Hanzo is up to

#

we haven't seen him since Dragons

shell cipher
#

oh damn

#

yeah genji kinda just showed up to announce his return and left hanzo alone again it seems

sharp dove
#

Hanzo is busy being dilf

clear kestrel
oblique sleet
#

Wow, Reaper is good in game but bad at being a villian in the story

#

that bozo is scary but incompetent.

#

ig that goes for the rest of Talon.

oblique sleet
#

but i think i can blame story writing for that.

stiff fiber
#

When did Genji join Blackwatch?

stiff fiber
#

He's just destined to lose in trailers

oblique sleet
#

hang on, in the Ow 1 trailer, did he attempt child murder?

#

like, on those 2 kids

#

i dont remember

stiff fiber
#

Pretty sure yes, but Tracer made herself a bigger target

#

And Winston

oblique sleet
#

like, Reaper doesn't kill kids, right?

stiff fiber
oblique sleet
#

also he looks more like Ghostface

oblique sleet
stiff fiber
#

Ig we'll never know, unless it's in a comic somewhere stating how ruthless he is, all we know is Reaper has wiped out entire organizations and militia groups by himself

oblique sleet
#

but he cant kill monke

#

and fast british bastard

#

even with help

stiff fiber
#

I will never understand how Winston survived dual double barrel shotguns point blank range. That's the power of plot armor

#

It's stronger than God

oblique sleet
stiff fiber
#

Those shotguns would have ripped him apart in both trailers

#

His armored suit and all

oblique sleet
#

i think outside of combat, Reaper is kind of a chill guy.

stiff fiber
oblique sleet
oblique sleet
stiff fiber
oblique sleet
formal rain
#

Wait what's Reyes and Morrisons' relationship currently? Have they made up or are they still enemies?

stiff fiber
#

In most of the OW1 and OW2 voicelines he has some humor but it's crude, but I think that's just for the sake of him being on your team

oblique sleet
stiff fiber
stiff fiber
#

I'm wondering what people will do against Reaper fr

#

He even says himself "You cannot kill me in a way that matters"

oblique sleet
stiff fiber
#

Because of that experiment he's practically immortal

stiff fiber
#

I still want him to be a ruthless killer with no rules tho

oblique sleet
#

he sounds like a nice person to have cookies and milk with.

stiff fiber
#

You actually got to hang out with Reaper

#

And are now allies

#

Like it's just regular you

#

You have no super powers or anything special about you whatsoever

#

Do you think if you were trouble, he would come and save you? @oblique sleet

#

It's not a trick or rhetorical question, but like a genuine one

#

Do you think he'd put in the effort?

oblique sleet
#

so, yeh as long as he's good at his job

#

he'd come and save me

stiff fiber
stiff fiber
oblique sleet
valid wolf
#

This may already be confirmed or something, but I think that Sigma's shield is so similar to winston's because Sigma met winstons dr guy. There is a voice line to back this up

distant portal
#

wow

oblique sleet
#

Does Moira drink Guinness?

#

just asking

opaque scroll
ripe flame
#

I think everyone does rn

opaque scroll
#

No, actually

clear kestrel
#

ok so Sombra has an interaction with Moira that seems to imply her friendship with Sigma is genuine

opaque scroll
#

And she's also helped baptiste iirc

opaque scroll
clear kestrel
#

Sombra: "you and Jefe need to stop frying sigmas brain"
Moira: "I'm trying to help your little friend"
Sombra: "and yourself"
Moira: "yes, lets discuss morality, and hypocrisy while we're at it"

#

that last one is interesting tho because I don't know if Moira is referring to Sombras relationship with Sigma specifically when calling her a hypocrite or her habit of using others for her own benefit in general

#

I'm assuming the latter in this case

opaque scroll
#

I'm pretty sure she means Sombra's whole background

#

Of being a hacker

clear kestrel
#

yea that's what I was thinking

opaque scroll
#

Yeah

#

Most likely that.

tardy hatch
#

Who is max?

clear kestrel
#

Maximillian

#

Doomfists accountant

dense nebula
#

Runs a casino

#

Dripped out the Wazoo

austere bolt
#

Funnily enough sigma seems to be semi catatonic.

safe glade
#

whats the relations between rein, torb and brig?

#

torb is brigs dad, right? is rein related to em in some way, too?

clear kestrel
#

he's just a family friend

#

Rein saved Torbs life on a mission during OWs golden age

#

Rein, being Rein stayed by his bedside whilst he recovered and got on Torbs nerves so much to the point that he was willing to let Rein name his daughter if he left him alone

#

and that's how Brig got her name

#

so he's essentially Brigs godfather

clear kestrel
sick iron
#

where are ana and pharah from

worldly hawk
#

Are Sombra and Baptiste good friends?
Like she haven't say anything of where he is, right?

#

Or just she's doing him a favor?

blissful perch
sick iron
#

ok thanks

safe glade
sick iron
clear kestrel
iron plume
iron plume
rotund pewter
#

Reaper is my dad

rustic crow
#

Sombra should have a brother or someone she grew up with as a new heroe or villain

iron plume
#

I don't see what that would add
and we know she grew up alone before getting to the gang

limpid agate
#

Giving Sombra a brother would be actively detrimental to the story

worthy rose
#

why are some heroes in here even though they arent apart of overwatch

#

like zen or junker queen

dense nebula
#

Because this game isn’t just about the group Overwatch

#

It’s the main group yes, but there’s much more to the world and lore than that group

limpid agate
#

The vast majority of heroes have no relation to Overwatch

#

Current Members - Baptiste, Bastion, Brigitte, Cassidy, D.Va, Echo, Genji, Lucio, Mei, Mercy, Pharah, Reinhardt, Sojourn, Tracer, Winston, Zarya
Former Members - Ana, Reaper, Soldier 76, Torbjorn
Talon - Doomfist, Moira, Sigma, Sombra, Symmetra, Widowmaker
Unrelated - Ashe, Hanzo, Junker Queen, Junkrat, Kiriko, Orisa, Roadhog, Hammond, Zenyatta

#

Reaper is both a former member and a member of Talon

#

Symmetra doesnt know her boss is part of Talon, but she works directly under him

clear kestrel
limpid agate
#

Yes

ripe crown
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I had to think twice on the Cassidy part. I just remembered there's a series of comics lined up on Cassidy's POV.

worthy rose
limpid agate
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Jefe = Boss = Doomfist

worthy rose
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I see

dense nebula
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Like Ash in Ash Vs Evil Dead

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He’s El Jefe Grande

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The Big Boss

merry mason
primal escarp
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alot probably have affiliation through association

stone trail
primal escarp
limpid agate
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Back then it was

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Former Members - Reaper, Soldier 76, Torbjorn, Cassidy, Genji, Mei, Mercy, Reinhardt, Tracer, Winston
Talon - Widowmaker
Unrelated - Hanzo, Junkrat, Roadhog, Zenyatta, Bastion, Symmetra, D.Va, Lucio, Pharah, Zarya
Didn't exist yet - Ashe, Sombra, Orisa, Doomfist, Moira, Brigitte, Hammond, Ashe, Baptiste, Sigma, Echo, Sojourn, Junker Queen, Kiriko

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10/21 launch heroes were Overwatch

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Reaper was also a member of Talon

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Vishkar's ties to Talon were unknown

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It was 50/50 OW/Non-OW when Ana released

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Then dropped back out to a majority of non-Overwatch and stayed that way until New Blood

primal escarp
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wait, i thought Vishkar was a backer of Talon?

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like, under the table type of stuff

peak escarp
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we don't know how deep the connection between Vishkar and Talon goes

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is it just Sanjay, doing his own thing, using his position in Vishkar to his advantage?

primal escarp
peak escarp
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or does Vishkar know about his extracurriculars and even condone them?

primal escarp
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Isnt Vishkar known for being a very very scummy and shitty company that steals tech from inventors, and throws them aside when no longer needed?

peak escarp
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Symmetra doesn't seem to be aware of his connection to Talon, although she knows he blew up the Calado building so they would get the contract

peak escarp
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they're only as corrupt as any other major coroporation

primal escarp
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oh, like some university type shit where they will fully fund any research but whatever comes out of that research belongs to the university?

peak escarp
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maybe

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we don't know the full details

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but based on interactions, Symmetra seems to believe that Lucio's father knew that his tech belonged to Vishkar

primal escarp
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gotcha

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kinda wish we saw more applications of hardlight within the game

peak escarp
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even Lucio knew that it legally belonged to Vishkar

primal escarp
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idk, the way Lucio says it, it makes it sound less like Vishkar legally owns it, but rather more of an edison type of thing

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where it was made by someone else but patented by Vishkar before his father had a chance/choice

peak escarp
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like Vishkar took credit for it?

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possibly

primal escarp
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Like, the pure hatred Lucio has for Vishkar wouldn't make sense otherwise to me

peak escarp
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well Vishkar also gentrified and tried to control his home neighborhood

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that's reason enough for Lucio to hate them

primal escarp
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yeah but Lucio's hatred revolves around his father's work

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ya know?

peak escarp
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seems like both to me

primal escarp
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that's fair

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speaking of, voicelines aren't canon, right?

peak escarp
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they are and they aren't

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they aren't because they don't represent actual conversations that have happened

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but they are in that this is what the heroes might say if they ever met

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it was once compared to playing with action figures

primal escarp
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so then the hate that Hammond has for Winston is canon then?

peak escarp
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yes

primal escarp
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nice :D

peak escarp
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Hammond resents him for leaving him behind (or trying to, anyway)