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#lore-discussion
elder crow
limpid agate
No, he made Wrecking Ball in Junkertown.
echo aspen
No, he made Wrecking Ball in Junkertown.
I may have mixed up the escape pod and the mech, Woops
worthy rose
I think their the same thing
like Wrecking Ball modified his Escape Pod to then make the wrecking ball mech we all know and love
hearty beacon
is kiriko genji and hanzos sister?
grand wedge
is kiriko genji and hanzos sister?
No, she is the daughter of their swordmaster, Asa Yamagami
ripe crown
is kiriko genji and hanzos sister?
Nope. The reason for their good relationship was because Kiriko’s mother helped train the Shimada brothers along with Kiriko.
worthy rose
~~I feel Kiriko wouldn't be crazed to hear Hanzo almost killed him ~~
grave shell
anyone know dva backstory i not very cultured on it tbh even tho ive played that game for 5years
since season 3 ow1
worthy rose
a pro gamer who became a mecha pilot and defended her country from omnics
sounds like a joke but I'm serious
worthy rose
in fact she was apart of a full team of Mecha Pilots known as "M.E.K.A"
grave shell
mmmm
worthy rose
you know the busan maps right?, one of them is called MEKA base and on that map you can see all the teams mechs, excepts for D.VA's for obvious reasons
worthy rose
hell one of them is in D.VA's short
Overlord
he's the "Smart guy" of them team I would have to assume
grave shell
thats cool thanks for helping me understand it dude 
peak escarp
Soldier's dog tags are finally readable
worthy rose
john
icy drum
is winston gay
worthy rose
Soldiers blood type is 0 negative
this fundamentally changes how I view the world of overwatch
a complete paradigm shift
also the serial number or whatever
ends in 76
clever Overwatch
clever
worthy rose
in Overwatch it refers to a type of technology
invented for medical purposes
Ana thought differently but lets not worry about that
Mercy's staff is biotic tech (I think)
Bap uses biotic tech
elfin kettle
Ana thought differently but lets not worry about that
Wdym? That girl is sniping heals, thtats good right
dense nebula
Idk I never really liked Mercy lore wise. Just another boring generic pacifist medic who desires to heal all
I much prefer the TF2 style of Medic
elfin kettle
Lmfao crazy doctor
dense nebula
The one who’s willing to trade the souls of his teammates to Satan in exchange for his own survival
elfin kettle
tf2 is really hard to play compared to overwatch though
elfin kettle
it's not that fun imo
I think I like more variety and less complication
but i digress
forest aurora
how does kimiko know hanzo and genji?
dense nebula
Grew up with them, and her mother was their sword instructor
forest aurora
ah ok
golden steppe
What is Winston's table joke
timid eagle
What is Winston's table joke
From what I was able to look up, he never talks about that joke beyond "Does anyone want to hear my joke on periodic tables?"
golden steppe
Ooh
worthy rose
and Moira says Nah
golden steppe
Everyone says no
timid eagle
In Junkrat's case, he goes "Does it make me go he-he, eh?"
golden steppe
It is art
timid eagle
It's also a game where you can teleport loaves of bread.
elfin kettle
is it ever explained how the DJ guy heals ppl
dense nebula
Because music heals the soul 
worthy rose
actually really wholesome to see Moira humor Winstons dad jokes
timid eagle
is it ever explained how the DJ guy heals ppl
It's based off of the same tech Symmetra uses, but invented by Lucio's father and it uses waves of sound over projected light.
dense nebula
Something something magical light of Hindu belief
Does that make Lucio Shiva’s avatar?
golden steppe
Nope
dense nebula
golden steppe
It'd not that
worthy rose
Widowmaker is blue because she's smurfette secretly
golden steppe
I forgot why she blue
dense nebula
I forgot why she blue
Her blood doesn’t flow like normal humans
worthy rose
but seriously uh
Talon like
did something to her heartbeat and slowed it down?
which led to a decrease in blood flow
and her skin turned blue
dense nebula
Or something like that, she’s quite literally a cold blooded killer
timid eagle
If I had to guess, she has Argyria.
worthy rose
nah I don't think she had an over exposure to Silver
timid eagle
Perhaps it's cyanosis, then?
worthy rose
the floating can be chalked up to non descript advanced technology built into him?
I mean iirc there are floating statues at the shambali temples on one of the nepal maps so they have such technology
pseudo river
Well, here we go..the story and timeline of all Overwatch and Overwatch 2's lore so far!
Whether you're new to Overwatch or wanting to dive deeper into the lore and world, got you covered. It's chunky - grab some popcorn if you want a movie 🙂
Here it is. I hope you enjoy 🙂
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icy drum
is winston gay
peak escarp
is winston gay
no
peak escarp
he seems to have a thing for Hypatia, one of the female gorillas on the colony
elfin kettle
not spider monkeys though
peak escarp
I don't get why people think Mercy is an extreme pacifist
she's an advocate for peace and is against weaponizing her healing tech, but nowhere does it say she's a pacifist
worthy rose
Girl literally fought in a war and was on the front lines
as a combat medic yes, but still
peak escarp
she can and will fight when needed
elfin kettle
I mean her kit is useless for fighting except in self defense
peak escarp
but if she was a pacifist she wouldn't even go into combat
she wouldn't have the Valkyrie suit
elfin kettle
obv
worthy rose
she wouldn't
carry around a side arm pistol
worthy rose
No I mean if she was a "pacifist" she probably wouldn't
sullen raptor
she would need to be able to defend herself
Just whack with the staff..no need pistol XD
Pacifist uwu
golden fog
so are the thousands of players who are crashing two mins into the game constantly gonna get any information.. bug since beta and still no fix
worthy rose
now she isn't a pacifist but otherwise
I also don't find her to be the most interesting character in the game to say the least
Bbut I mean alot of characters kinda are underdeveloped outside of the basics and their backstory
which hopeuflly the Ow2 campaign delivers on that
peak escarp
so are the thousands of players who are crashing two mins into the game constant...
#overwatch-news information is there, not in the lore channel
golden fog
Why would you go into the lore channel if u wanna talk about game issues??
because its an issue since beta and they are not acknowledging it
i sent all channel not just here
elfin kettle
because its an issue since beta and they are not acknowledging it
so since you posted in the lore channel I'm sure blizzard will see it
golden fog
so since you posted in the lore channel I'm sure blizzard will see it
i sent all channel not just here
40 posts on the forum too
peak escarp
spamming isn't going to get you answers
golden fog
well im not getting any anyway
barren tangle
Bro is unironically his pfp rn 😂
pallid cradle
The only important lore is Winston is monke
golden fog
@peak escarp can i ask you a lore question
pallid cradle
He’s a gorilla 🤓
golden fog
whats the lore behind zens balls
In the video of widow sniping zen why doesnt he just use his balls to block the bullet
golden fog
did i misgender him
it would be more realistic if when widow went to shoot him she disconnects and goes back to the 40k queue
dont you think
peak escarp
!!shitposting @golden fog
twilit nacelleBOT
@golden fog Shitposting will result in a loss of access.
golden fog
why are you reporting me
worthy rose
back to spawn
golden fog
im making valid arguments, youre a workplace snitch
peak escarp
the server issues faced by players are not part of the lore
peak escarp
they don't
worthy rose
there is nothing to suggest that the world of OW is in a simulation
simple as
peak escarp
I could say anything and you would have no idea if I was right or not
golden fog
seru there is also not evidence to say the OW is not a simulation
peak escarp
that's not how evidence works
golden fog
ok tell me someting mr lore
who is the woman that created echo
or orisa i cant remember
peak escarp
Efi Oladele
peak escarp
no
golden fog
damn
peak escarp
she's a child
nimble brook
Is there any lore as to why Doomfist is bigger now or is it just like, steroids?
golden fog
so is kiriko
peak escarp
Kiriko is in her 20s
golden fog
Is there any lore as to why Doomfist is bigger now or is it just like, steroids?
protein shake
worthy rose
Is there any lore as to why Doomfist is bigger now or is it just like, steroids?
gameplay sake since he's a tank now
peak escarp
no playable human in Overwatch is under 19
golden fog
ok what about the sudden integration of magic where has this come from
sullen raptor
Is there any lore as to why Doomfist is bigger now or is it just like, steroids?
Since when doom is big? Its just his gauntlet
worthy rose
there is no magic in Overwatch
golden fog
yes there is
worthy rose
just very advanced pseudo-science
peak escarp
what do you mean sudden? we've always had Hanzo and Genji's dragons
those are spirits too
golden fog
thats not magic
nimble brook
Since when doom is big? Its just his gauntlet
Isn't he like 7'0 in ow1?
pale perch
I think it could be perceived as magic or sprituality based abilities
peak escarp
whether we knew it or not
sullen raptor
He is pretty much normal muscular man..he even wore normal clothing in comic masquare thing
golden fog
he like me fr
worthy rose
Doom probably just got his gains at the gym
problem solved
golden fog
usually how it works
sullen raptor
💪😂
nimble brook
Didn't he punch through concrete without the fist though?
golden fog
i could take doom in a fight tbh
worthy rose
and I do say there is no magic in Overwatch but some things in the universe do make me question that
name the shimada dragons
peak escarp
he has a cybernetic arm
sullen raptor
Didn't he punch through concrete without the fist though?
Well..not in one shot..he chipped it little by little
golden fog
he small
worthy rose
Doomfist with the fist
fucking cursed
golden fog
we all start somewhere lil bro
sullen raptor
and I do say there is no magic in Overwatch but some things in the universe do m...
Or kiriko fox
golden fog
i make doom look like the good guy fr
pale perch
and I do say there is no magic in Overwatch but some things in the universe do m...
It could be magic or the presence of a spirituality based thing, I think. The Shimada dragons are hereditary and run in the family, same with Kiriko. So maybe certain regions have some spiritual blessings? But the perception can be different from person to person
plucky axle
and I do say there is no magic in Overwatch but some things in the universe do m...
Spirits correct?
worthy rose
I've always chalked it up to hardlight tech
golden fog
get an oujia board
peak escarp
Genji and Hanzo's spirit dragons, Kiriko's fox spirit, and Zenyatta's powers all seem to come from "spirit"/magic
plucky axle
Perhaps dead ancestors helping the shimada clan
pale perch
I've always chalked it up to hardlight tech
I definitely think its beyond hardlight tech, but its not a bad concept!
worthy rose
another interesting thing is that in lore
Hanzo's dragons don't seem to do shit
golden fog
do you think winston could beat doom in an arm wrestle
plucky axle
do you think winston could beat doom in an arm wrestle
Which arm
worthy rose
he beat doomfist in a fight so
probably
golden fog
third
golden fog
do you think i have a chance with junkerqueen
sullen raptor
That got nothing to do with lore
golden fog
it could
pale perch
It doesnt tho
sullen raptor
another interesting thing is that in lore
Hanzo's dragons don't seem to do shit
All i saw was dragon pushed him back?
worthy rose
yeah it just knocked him off his feet
sullen raptor
Maybe drain his energy? Idk
pale perch
All i saw was dragon pushed him back?
Maybe the dragons canonically can't really do damage to other shimadas?
But against others outside the clan they can be a deadly force
sullen raptor
Maybe the dragons canonically can't really do damage to other shimadas?
Ah
golden fog
ah
golden fog
same
sullen raptor
Idk its a theory
Still i do wonder if the green dragon have different power
golden fog
do you think paladins is in the same universe
pale perch
Still i do wonder if the green dragon have different power
They probably do! It would make sense given that Hanzo and Genji are vastly different. Plus, they trained differently too, so how they control them could be varying powers
golden fog
whats the lore behind torbs meatballs
nimble brook
@peak escarp do you think Kiriko's fox follows traditional yokai lore of being able to take on a human form?
peak escarp
no
golden fog
100%
sullen raptor
Eeh...i dont think so
golden fog
yes it does wdym
pale perch
<@207741110838231042> do you think Kiriko's fox follows traditional yokai lore o...
I would prob say no? But we dont have a lot on Kiriko rn so its hard to make a good guess
sullen raptor
In the video..the fox is kinda servant to kiriko family??
Or helper? Some kind of deity?
golden fog
fox is my spirit animal
pale perch
A spirit devoted to healing, right?
peak escarp
sometimes a fox is just a fox
golden fog
so it was an ex combat medic
sullen raptor
So..i dont think healing got anything to do with changing to human..
pale perch
True. Not everything has a grand meaning, but knowing Blizzard, the fox has a deeper meaning behind it, much like the dragons and the shimadas
golden fog
question the unknown
sullen raptor
I would prob say no? But we dont have a lot on Kiriko rn so its hard to make a g...
It will be revealed on twitch con correct?
pale perch
It will be revealed on twitch con correct?
Oh yes! The cinematic!
sullen raptor
The kiriko video..cinematic
pale perch
Im excited for that
nimble brook
not a kitsune yokai
But would it still have some sort of connection to the goddess inari?
golden fog
and zeus
sullen raptor
Im excited for that
Ye that
worthy rose
not a massive fan of Kiriko tbh
sullen raptor
She just kind of like tracer..
golden fog
not a massive fan of supports 1 tapping you from 20 miles away either
pale perch
I havent heard many of the interactions with her yet. Does she know the Shimadas? Like are they familiar?
sullen raptor
I havent heard many of the interactions with her yet. Does she know the Shimadas...
She knows
worthy rose
childhood friends
peak escarp
she grew up with them
golden fog
shes genjis third cousin btw
pale perch
she grew up with them
Ooooooh
peak escarp
she's not related to them
golden fog
it was told
worthy rose
is there an interaction where she comments on Genji's cyborg body
sullen raptor
She comments about genji haircut..hanzo etc
peak escarp
is there an interaction where she comments on Genji's cyborg body
I haven't heard any yet
nimble brook
Are Genji and Hanzo still separated?
golden fog
she says hey cousin your armour looks extra shiny
worthy rose
if my childhood friend was raiden from MGR i'd have questions
pale perch
According to ow2 voice interaction game..you can look it up on youtube
I remembered hearing one about her and Genji but I couldn't hear it all
sullen raptor
I remembered hearing one about her and Genji but I couldn't hear it all
Look on youtube XD
pale perch
True XD
peak escarp
Are Genji and Hanzo still separated?
they reunited in the Dragons short, but Genji went back to Overwatch and Hanzo... we don't know what Hanzo is up to
golden fog
i do
pale perch
Look on youtube XD
But its fun to talk with people about it
peak escarp
we haven't seen Hanzo do anything in the lore since Dragons
golden fog
hes at mine rn
sullen raptor
we haven't seen Hanzo do anything in the lore since Dragons
The christmas comic
That one panel
peak escarp
a cameo
pale perch
The christmas comic
That's not the one where he had piercings right? or was it
nimble brook
Which characters have actually had the most lore/development?
peak escarp
I mean actually doing something as apart of the story
golden fog
efi
sullen raptor
That's not the one where he had piercings right? or was it
Hanzo in black coat in street?
peak escarp
Which characters have actually had the most lore/development?
Soldier, Reaper, Winston, Tracer and Cassidy
and Ana I guess
golden fog
Soldier, Reaper, Winston, Tracer and Cassidy
who is cassidy
peak escarp
Cole Cassidy, the cowboy hero
pale perch
Soldier, Reaper, Winston, Tracer and Cassidy
Lucio had some too. They added some more context to his dad and vishkar
golden fog
Cole Cassidy, the cowboy hero
never heard of him
pale perch
At least from what I heard
peak escarp
Lucio has a little lore, but nowhere near the most
sullen raptor
I mean actually doing something as apart of the story
Well..maybe on a self reflect journey in that panel
pale perch
Lucio has a little lore, but nowhere near the most
true
gleaming horizon
i feel like genji had a lot of development
sullen raptor
He seemed alone in snow etc
golden fog
will they make more shorts
golden fog
i miss the old shorts they were so good
peak escarp
and there's another one with Sojourn coming too
sullen raptor
Lucio had some too. They added some more context to his dad and vishkar
Remember lucio got blown up in that aircraft?
pale perch
I remember when Reunion came out at high noon for blizzcon
pale perch
Remember lucio got blown up in that aircraft?
WAIT. You're messin with me right
Or am I missing something
sullen raptor
WAIT. You're messin with me right
No it was the pve scene
peak escarp
that scene was a placeholder
worthy rose
more Soujorn lore
like why she testified against Overwatch when the organization was under legal fire I assume after Blackwatch got a little dubious
sullen raptor
Oh
peak escarp
the actual mission will end differently
golden fog
whats the lore behind sojurn being so thic
pale perch
more Soujorn lore
like why she testified against Overwatch when the organization...
It had something to do with Retribution right?
golden fog
squats and whatever doomfist is on id assume
peak escarp
the PvE will add a lot of lore - every story mission will have intro and outro cutscenes
golden fog
does ow2 take place before ow1
pale perch
I hadnt seen anything for the PvE
peak escarp
does ow2 take place before ow1
no, after
golden fog
ohhh
peak escarp
it's a sequel
worthy rose
iirc it was mostly Blackwatches actions that made people begin to doubt the integrity of Overwatch as a whole
sullen raptor
I hadnt seen anything for the PvE
That gameplay is 2 yrs ago..seagull played it
pale perch
That gameplay is 2 yrs ago..seagull played it
Yeah I still didnt watch it tho. Didn't wanna get spoiled of anything
icy drum
are we sure winston doesnt like men
sullen raptor
O
pale perch
I like waiting till its out for everyone to play
golden fog
are we sure winston doesnt like men
i think the same
peak escarp
the PvE has changed a lot since that demo in 2019
pale perch
the PvE has changed a lot since that demo in 2019
Id assume so
Im really looking forward to it
peak escarp
the talent trees were greatly expanded, and they got rid of item pickups
icy drum
and whatever the hell The Iris is
and how the fuck sigma’s met it
worthy rose
kinda hypocritical robo terrorist
pale perch
**and how the fuck sigma’s met it**
T H A T
golden fog
tinder
icy drum
THAT VOICELINE CONFUSED ME SO MUCH
peak escarp
Sigma says he's met the Iris... but he also said he's met fairies
so I couldn't believe him too much
golden fog
they say it in the voiceline they met through tinder
pale perch
THAT VOICELINE CONFUSED ME SO MUCH
I wanna say its a troll voice line but its still interesting nonetheless
icy drum
yeah but tbh the iris is a lot more believable than fairies, considering that the iris seems to be a higher being, and in media black holes tend to have those sortsa effects on people
peak escarp
I was worried about how they would work on console - we're all out of buttons
golden fog
do you know if the ow universe has uber eats
peak escarp
yeah but tbh the iris is a lot more believable than fairies, considering that th...
could be that Sigma believes he met the Iris, but he didn't actually
icy drum
could be that Sigma *believes* he met the Iris, but he didn't actually
he is implied to have psychosis of some kind, so that is likely, however it’s just as likely that they’re throwing in all the fake “i met [blank]”s so you’ll be surprised when he actually has met one of them
pale perch
I think Zenyatta is definitely more spiritual and thus believes his abilities came from a diety, but perhaps it was something passed onto him during creation?
icy drum
there’s also the possibility that he met somethinf he thought was the iris, but is much worse
icy drum
I think Zenyatta is definitely more spiritual and thus believes his abilities ca...
we don’t see other omnics like him floating though,,
pale perch
Spirituality and perception seem to tie heavily into quite a few character arcs
pale perch
we don’t see other omnics like him floating though,,
True
sullen raptor
but then again, genji can’t float and he’s spiritual
Not as spiritual as zen
pale perch
We still aren't exactly sure if the powers differ between Hanzo and Genji either, so for all we know each character with a "magical" ability could be completely different in nature
icy drum
i think people sometimes forget that overwatch does actually have genuine fantasy elements as well as sci fi
sullen raptor
but then again, genji can’t float and he’s spiritual
Genji : master how can i focus on peace?
Zen : like me, focus your breathing
Genji : but u dont breathe
Zen : exactly
(Not 100% correct but this interaction is on ow2)
pale perch
Genji : master how can i focus on peace?
Zen : like me, focus your breathing
Gen...
Yeah that interaction confused me
icy drum
Genji : master how can i focus on peace?
Zen : like me, focus your breathing
Gen...
he’s trying his best to learn 🙏
worthy rose
Zen has always been witty
sullen raptor
Its just teacher messing with student moment XDDDD
dreamy epoch
i love zen man
peak escarp
Zenyatta has a great sense of humor
icy drum
i want the dragon god(s) to be explored more tbh
nimble brook
Anyone else find it funny that Zen can out melee Rein now?
icy drum
i want the dragon god(s) to be explored more tbh
or just the general supernatural elements
pale perch
Anyone else find it funny that Zen can out melee Rein now?
And out-boop Lucio
peak escarp
what dragon gods
nimble brook
Dragon lords
pale perch
I think nightmari means the dragon spirits
nimble brook
what dragon gods
"oh great dragon lord, why are you so distraught"
peak escarp
that was a story told by their father
golden fog
wish i had a father
worthy rose
that was allegory for Hanzo and Genji
pale perch
that was allegory for Hanzo and Genji
Agreed. It was a story that was meant to tell Hanzo and Genji's past in a more historical context of sorts
sullen raptor
what dragon gods
Idk maybe hashimoto also had other dragon gods, who knows
Or just other animal gods lords etc
worthy rose
Dragon Gods feels like a....stretch
peak escarp
it was an allegory
pale perch
I mean, I don't think its out of the question in this universe that there could be deities that represent animalistic traits and such
nimble brook
I mean, I don't think its out of the question in this universe that there could ...
I mean, spirit foxes are a thing so doesn't that mean the japanese goddess inari is canon?
icy drum
oh, i dont mean the story, it’s more the fact that genji refers to the dragon he summons during dragonblade as the dragon god (“take the blade of the __ dragon god __”)
ofc thst might just be for coolness factor
sullen raptor
oh, i dont mean the story, it’s more the fact that genji refers to the dragon he...
Or modernization
peak escarp
whether or not a god is real depends on your personal belief
pale perch
Maybe theres parts of the world where magic or spiritual gifts are more profound, like Japan, and thus thats why we now have 3 characters from there who have these abilities
sullen raptor
Lord seemed..like boomer slang
peak escarp
they're not going to show up in the story so it's irrelevant
peak escarp
omnics possessed by corrupt spirits
Junkenstein
icy drum
i know thats like Very Incredinly Unlikely
icy drum
Junkenstein
yeah but like plot-relevant, not reinhardt’s drunken ramblings
nimble brook
they're not going to show up in the story so it's irrelevant
I mean, yeah it's irrelevant but if a god is linked to something like say spirit foxes and soldier is Catholic meaning the idea of other religions should exist as well, even if it's irrelevant wouldn't it still kinda confirm it's real, at least in the ow universe?
peak escarp
it's as real as it is in our world
icy drum
if soldier is catholic can we get jesus as a hero
worthy rose
we have robot jesus
peak escarp
like I said, whether you consider gods real or not depends on your personal belief
icy drum
do you think the iris has the equivalent of like jehova’s witnesses? do people come to your door in the overwatch universe and ask if you’ve heard the word of the iris?
nimble brook
Whether they're real or not in our world or whatever we believe in shouldn't change / effect if they're real in the overwatch universe.
icy drum
considering the fact that hanzo, genji, and kiriko can all summon tangible spirits, i think supernatural beings definitely exist, and with their existence proven, what’s stopping god(s) from existing, too?
peak escarp
why does it matter?
they're not going to have any influence on the story
this isn't that kind of story
icy drum
because i think it’d be a cool thing to explore both lore and gameplay wise?
peak escarp
according to Catholics, God exists
sullen raptor
because i think it’d be a cool thing to explore both lore and gameplay wise?
They busy with human/omnic/terrorist problem than god problem
peak escarp
both in the real world and in Overwatch
worthy rose
Overwatch is Science Fiction not Sci-Fi Fantasy like star wars
icy drum
Overwatch is Science Fiction not Sci-Fi Fantasy like star wars
explain hanzo, genji, and kiriko’s spirits using science, go
worthy rose
as I said earlier it could possibly be hard light technology if I HAD to chalk it up to some advanced science
icy drum
according to Catholics, God exists
unlike in the world of overwatch, we cannot summon a giant glowing figure of jesus to kill our enemies
nimble brook
Isn't there an interaction where Mercy asks if Zen is magical? The concept of fantasy should at least exist in the universe.
peak escarp
unlike in the world of overwatch, we cannot summon a giant glowing figure of jes...
they can't do that in Overwatch either
icy drum
then what does hanzo do ????
sullen raptor
they are canonically spirits
Yeah but in science way..theyre light
peak escarp
then what does hanzo do ????
he summons a spirit dragon, not a god
sullen raptor
Like symm projects stuff
nimble brook
Spirit dragons are fantastical, no?
peak escarp
they're not gods
nimble brook
That doesn't answer the question
sullen raptor
Science
icy drum
they’re not gods, but they make the concept of gods plausible in-universe
sullen raptor
peak escarp
the existence of some fantastical elements doesn't confirm the existence of ALL fantastical elements
icy drum
but it makes the existence of those elements plausible
nimble brook
It doesn't deny it either
peak escarp
you can't say there are Elves and Wizards now just because spirits exist
nimble brook
They've never said they don't exist though.
icy drum
again, you can’t outright deny their existence, but they’re much less plausible than divine entities
peak escarp
they never said they do exist
nimble brook
Yet they still haven't denied they do
peak escarp
lack of evidence is not evidence
nimble brook
Lack of evidence goes both ways
icy drum
a lack of evidence they exist, and a lack of evidence they dont exist
guess we’ll never know!
worthy rose
probably not
and it's not really important to the games lore or story
icy drum
okay but what if they drop a goblin hero and just never elaborate further
nimble brook
It doesn't have to be important to lore, Lucio being a dj isn't important, it's just lore.
icy drum
it just adds depth
worthy rose
adding a bunch of hard fantasy isn't something you can just...do
it would become a series of "why doesn't this character or faction use magic to achieve their goals"
nimble brook
The koreans in overwatch literally fight giant robo tentacle monsters, it doesn't get much more fantasy than that.
worthy rose
in literature Fantasy and Sci-Fi are pretty different
that's Sci-Fi yeah
but not "Fantasy"
icy drum
would you consider genji, hanzo, and kiriko’s spirits to destroy that? they’re by definition random, having no relevance to any other piece of lore
past copper
The koreans in overwatch literally fight giant robo tentacle monsters, it doesn'...
How is fighting robots fantasy?
icy drum
in literature Fantasy and Sci-Fi are pretty different
that's Sci-Fi yeah
but no...
have you heard of sci-fantasy
im not saying the fantasy elements should be just as relevant as the science elements
nimble brook
How is fighting robots fantasy?
Robots have been a part of fantasy for a long time-?
peak escarp
would you consider genji, hanzo, and kiriko’s spirits to destroy that? they’re b...
they're not random, they've been there from the beginning
icy drum
im not saying the fantasy elements should be just as relevant as the science ele...
i’m just saying they should be explored a little more than they are currently. maybe explain how they work?
past copper
This isn’t Star Wars or LoL. You people are FR grasping at straws
worthy rose
yeah Overwatch is Sci-Fi not Sci-Fi Fantasy I said that earlier
icy drum
i’d like to see them explain them, add more lore to the shimada clan and their history
worthy rose
dumping a crap ton of magic systems into the world would be jarring, and just wouldn't fit
icy drum
who said dumping a crap ton? the only two that need explored are the iris and the shimada spirits
nimble brook
it would become a series of "why doesn't this character or faction use magic to ...
Why doesn't every character have a spirit dragon or animal then? Is it just because they're Asian? That's kinda racist of blizzard.
dense nebula
And also Kiriko’s fox spirit now
worthy rose
also a reason I don't like Kiriko
she leans a bit to heavily into magic and feels more like a LoL character than a Overwatch Hero
dense nebula
also a reason I don't like Kiriko
she leans a bit to heavily into magic and feel...
Not to mention that trash you call a theme
icy drum
also a reason I don't like Kiriko
she leans a bit to heavily into magic and feel...
that’s your opinion, imo she fits perfectly into the lore
dense nebula
I mean seriosuly, trap remix with a very minor amount of traditional instruments? That’s cheap
Trap remix is so overused these days
past copper
I believe it’s still more plausible and actually realistic to say Hanzo’s dragon is hardlight connected to the electronic tattoo on his arm (look it up, there is such technology) through his arrow and Genji’s dragon is literally a holographic projection from his blade that he activates with the switch on his sword handle
peak escarp
I like the theme
icy drum
I believe it’s still more plausible and actually realistic to say Hanzo’s dragon...
could you explain kiriko then
golden fog
Is junker queen junkrats mother
peak escarp
I believe it’s still more plausible and actually realistic to say Hanzo’s dragon...
you can think this all you like, but there's no evidence for it being tech in the lore and ignoring the canon in favour of fanon is bad practice
peak escarp
Is junker queen junkrats mother
no, they're not related
golden fog
Yes they are
peak escarp
no they aren't
golden fog
Yes they are
peak escarp
proof?
peak escarp
there is no evidence of them being related
golden fog
Do you spend more time investigating lord than actually playing
peak escarp
Junkrat didn't even know her before The Wastelander
golden fog
He did they both fought in the arena
peak escarp
Junkrat didn't fight in the arena
golden fog
He did
peak escarp
when?
nimble brook
@icy drum so we agree it's sci-fantasy yeah? 🤝
golden fog
What’s the lore being the Cassidy name change
peak escarp
Cole Cassidy was his birth name, that he abandoned when he became a criminal
now that he's becoming a good guy again, he's taking back his original name
golden fog
His criminal name was cooler
grand folio
He will always be McCree to me
golden fog
Me too
golden fog
Can I get banned for calling him the M word
peak escarp
that's worse
peak escarp
Can I get banned for calling him the M word
no
nimble brook
So the irl guy and stuff aside, there's no in universe reason to not call him McCree right?
golden fog
Fr
peak escarp
not really
grand folio
No, I played overwatch when he was named McCree, I am used to calling him McCree.
peak escarp
you can still call him that if you want to - he'd probably ask you to stop calling him that
dense nebula
now that he's becoming a good guy again, he's taking back his original name
That’s the most generic and shoe horn explanation for a name change I’ve ever heard
golden fog
Are any heroes trans
peak escarp
not that we know of
dense nebula
No, and they shouldn’t force a character to be if it doesn’t need to be tbh. No need to start slapping labels on characters
golden fog
I’m kidding
worthy rose
That’s the most generic and shoe horn explanation for a name change I’ve ever he...
I mean it kinda was
they wanted to change his name because the person he was named after was
not a good person
they had to come up with SOME in lore reason
peak escarp
if we get a trans hero, it should be something that's part of their character from the start
dense nebula
And not slapped on
peak escarp
yeah
grand folio
Have they made any more overwatch comics?
golden fog
Steve from Minecraft
dense nebula
Look at the Bridget controversy in Guilty Gear
peak escarp
Have they made any more overwatch comics?
the last one was the New Blood comic, earlier this year
!!lorecomics
twilit nacelleBOT
Comics Series 1:
Train Hopper: https://bit.ly/2vaOY0I
Dragon Slayer: https://bit.ly/2GpRZRk
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
A Better World: https://bit.ly/2DeJGpK
Mission Statement: https://bit.ly/2UFLC5o
Destroyer: https://bit.ly/2XcYZ9G
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Junkenstein: https://bit.ly/2Is3WZ4
Reflections: https://bit.ly/2IoZQkr
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Uprising: https://bit.ly/2UCymhE
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
Searching: https://bit.ly/2Gh3jy6
Retribution: https://bit.ly/2XePmHG
Tracer - London Calling:
#1: https://bit.ly/3mknXBx
#2: https://bit.ly/318GEix
#3: https://bit.ly/3lorayj
#4: https://bit.ly/2MTe3JM
#5: https://bit.ly/3bD4dVi
Cassidy - New Blood:
#1: https://bit.ly/3wJqcnL
#2: https://bit.ly/3ejXkd0
#3: https://bit.ly/3fbBwB3
#4: https://bit.ly/3B9zLOE
#5: https://bit.ly/3iaM0lB
Mini-Comics:
Return of Junkenstein: https://bit.ly/2Gqp7Z8
Yeti Hunt: https://bit.ly/2VPmxRI
grand folio
Have we seen any more of Tracer's girlfriend or was that just a one time thing
peak escarp
we saw more of her in London Calling
golden fog
How are you purple name doctor six
peak escarp
I've been here a long time
golden fog
Me too
peak escarp
not long enough, apparently
golden fog
Actually I left nvm
dense nebula
I hope this doesn’t wind up like Apex lore wise where there’s no stakes and no threats
neon aurora
Where do y'all think the PvE missions are going to start at?
dense nebula
Because I hate it when playable characters have lore immunity from death
neon aurora
Or, start with.
golden fog
So if I plant the spike on pearl B long and set up my chamber tp from cubby to heaven what are the chances of an ace
worthy rose
Where do y'all think the PvE missions are going to start at?
Rio I think
peak escarp
Or, start with.
there's a few missions we saw in the 2021 panel - Rio, Toronto, India
neon aurora
there's a few missions we saw in the 2021 panel - Rio, Toronto, India
And then we saw sketches of Bap, D.Va, and Zarya with the gang.
peak escarp
Toronto seems to be a major mission
sharp trench
Where do y'all think the PvE missions are going to start at?
i'm thinking they're going to be doing multiple heroes in one campaign that eventually merge and come together in one mission
neon aurora
Well duh.
sharp trench
and thats kind of the main thing until the final mission
neon aurora
Cassidy with New blood.
peak escarp
And then we saw sketches of Bap, D.Va, and Zarya with the gang.
they were recruited by Cassidy in New Blood
dense nebula
You know what could add stakes to the lore? Introduce a new threat that kills off someone close to one of the main characters that causes a shockwave through the world lore wise
nimble brook
Because I hate it when playable characters have lore immunity from death
Shouldn't Tracer have splattered into thousands of pieces when doom punched her?
neon aurora
they were recruited by Cassidy in New Blood
Which means...
there going to be apart of the main mission.
peak escarp
yep
dense nebula
Shouldn't Tracer have splattered into thousands of pieces when doom punched her?
She gets immunity cause poster girl
worthy rose
You know what could add stakes to the lore? Introduce a new threat that kills of...
Reinhardt seems poised to die imo
dense nebula
Blizz too afraid to be called stuff if they let anything permanent happen to Tracer
neon aurora
Reinhardt seems poised to die imo
imo, D.Va feels like a character who would die because of her mentality
dense nebula
Give idiots an inch and they’ll want a mile type stuff
worthy rose
I say the same for Reinhardt
dude literally lives the words, Live With Honor, Die With Glory
dense nebula
Rein and Sigma are the oldest characters aren’t they?
neon aurora
@peak escarp I'm actually upset her in game voicelines in OW2 aren't more serious like her in Shooting star.
peak escarp
if anyone is going to die it would be someone like Bastion who can just be rebuild after
sharp trench
imo, D.Va feels like a character who would die because of her mentality
She would be very different if she wasn't a pilot
dense nebula
if anyone is going to die it would be someone like Bastion who can just be rebui...
Thus removing any stakes and threats
neon aurora
I feel like it's going to be werid when D.Va is going to be more mature in the PvE campaign.
dense nebula
You know who could die and cause a major impact? Tracer’s lovebird
peak escarp
it's an optimistic story - death isn't very optimistic
sharp trench
probably but that would mean an entire character shift
dense nebula
Which is good
neon aurora
@peak escarp wait wait.
dense nebula
It adds depth and development to the characters in the game so they aren’t one note
neon aurora
Isn't there a chance Orisa is going to meet up with the OW gang aswell?
peak escarp
yeah
neon aurora
She left with sojourn.
peak escarp
the end of The Hero of Numbani implied that Orisa would go help Overwatch
sharp trench
It adds depth and development to the characters in the game so they aren’t one n...
most characters in the game are not very good characters for what they are
neon aurora
Mk. So.
dense nebula
Hot take: Overwatch are illegal vigilantes acting on their own accord against governments all over the world, potentially putting the people of said governments in harm’s way
nimble brook
I get why Rein went back to overwatch but why did Brig follow if she was so against him going?
worthy rose
because she's loyal to Reinhardt
sharp trench
Hot take: Overwatch are illegal vigilantes acting on their own accord against go...
they are
peak escarp
Zero Hour: Winston, Mei, Tracer, Genji, Reinhardt, Brigitte, Mercy, Echo
New Blood: Cassidy, Pharah, Baptiste, Zarya, D.Va
Hero of Numbani: Orisa
PvE missions: Lucio, Sojourn
dense nebula
I’m just saying, if a robotic uprising were to occur, I’d rather the group who want me to evolve and become stronger over the ones who just want to protect me
worthy rose
also also Brig more or less looks out for Rein and tries to make sure he doesn't get himself killed
sharp trench
i would rather have the government be doing something with an actual military force
peak escarp
that's everyone we know of who should be joining Overwatch
nimble brook
Why did Bap betray talon though?
dense nebula
Can we just talk about how much of a chad Doomfist is tho?
peak escarp
because he didn't agree with what they were doing
dense nebula
Made his own cybernetic arm after he lost his real one, punched his way out of prison, took a punch from an angry gorilla to the face and was left unscathed
sharp trench
the omnics are such a threat to the enemy in OW2 because the humans are just not equipped to how they should be equipped
dense nebula
Is it weird that Doomfist reminds me a lot of Bane from DC?
nimble brook
So in lore is Bap just the classic "joined the evil guys because he thought they were good then regrets it and leaves" trope?
peak escarp
So in lore is Bap just the classic "joined the evil guys because he thought they...
pretty much
dense nebula
So in lore is Bap just the classic "joined the evil guys because he thought they...
Finn but done better
worthy rose
Can we just talk about how much of a chad Doomfist is tho?
Folds Genji and Tracer
Purposefully gets locked up in the most high security prison in the world
breaks out of his cell like it's nothing
Doesn't elaborate
LEAVES
dense nebula
Can we get someone to draw Doomfist in the Gigachad style?
worthy rose
So in lore is Bap just the classic "joined the evil guys because he thought they...
actually iirc the only reason he joined was so he could get out of his living situation
yep
that's pretty much what his orgin story short says more or less
sharp trench
did Bap ever elevate his ranks or was he just a trooper/combat medic
worthy rose
and it seems he KNEW Talon was bad
but he just wanted to get out of his war torn country
peak escarp
he was a lieutenant
worthy rose
though one mission they simply crossed the line and bap could no longer be a talon soldier
much to the dismay of Mauga
peak escarp
even criminals have lines they won't cross
stealing is fine but not murdering innocent civilians
dense nebula
though one mission they simply crossed the line and bap could no longer be a tal...
I swear if people start shipping Bap and Mauga for no reason other than one lore interaction
Speaking of Mauga, when are we getting our dual minigun wielding badass?
peak escarp
start? they've been shipping them since 2018
worthy rose
Mauga literally tried to kill him
dense nebula
Mfw close friendships can’t be a thing these days, it always has to be romantic
worthy rose
and Baptiste BLEW HIM UP
peak escarp
yeah shippers love that shit
dense nebula
That made TF and Graves lovers in League
worthy rose
I mean people think Killing Stalking is a love story so it doesn't really shock me
dense nebula
When they used to be a dynamic duo type thing
dreamy epoch
I'd say bap is that but honestly his origin story is really good
dense nebula
I mean people think Killing Stalking is a love story so it doesn't really shock ...
Those people watched too much anime
dreamy epoch
I think it was a line where he says something about not caring about the hand that offers you
sharp trench
Mfw close friendships can’t be a thing these days, it always has to be romantic
Degenerates are loud minorities
dense nebula
Degenerates are loud minorities
And unfortunately we give them megaphones these days
peak escarp
you should see what they think about Junkrat and Roadhog
dreamy epoch
worthy rose
I think it was a line where he says something about not caring about the hand th...
yeah basically
even when the devil lends a helping hand, desperate time call for desperate measures
sharp trench
loud, but not actually very prevalent
most OW players are normal and do not bother with shipping
dreamy epoch
it's such a good line
dense nebula
Also another hot take: Bap has one of, If not, the best personality in game
dreamy epoch
comment is right I really do think bap is the most realistic character
peak escarp
Bap is pretty cool
dense nebula
Bap became my main support when he came out
peak escarp
I like his confidence
worthy rose
Baps pretty funny
I'm not a fan of his design though
dense nebula
I love that funky skin he’s got
worthy rose
Thank you Baptiste!
Oh, your welcome
dense nebula
It just oozes 70’s Funk and I’m here for it
worthy rose
Also Bap literally goes "fucking try me" when REAPER threatens his life
and he mocks Widowmaker right to her face
dense nebula
Can’t wait to hear the interactions between him and Mauga if they ever get the cajones to add Mauga
worthy rose
Reaper and Widowmaker being
probably the most dangerous and deadly assassins in the Overwatch world
dense nebula
It should’ve been Mauga you cowards, not Sigma
sharp trench
honestly it sounds like Doomfist wants Bap alive
peak escarp
we'll get Mauga eventually
sharp trench
to be fair, I would not have wanted Mauga with sigma's kit
dense nebula
Hopefully sooner rather than later
peak escarp
I don't think he'll have miniguns though
sharp trench
I'm hoping next tank is Mauga since he's been wanted for a while
dense nebula
I also want that Zephyrus character as a hero
worthy rose
OW team expressed interest in making Mauga a tank at one point
but honestly we got SIGMA so i can't be mad
dense nebula
Polish Winged Hussars are fucking dope
sharp trench
he could have something similar to Orisa with damage output
worthy rose
Sigma is pretty fucking cool
peak escarp
they blew him up at the end of the story so they wouldn't be locked in to his kit as a Talon Heavvy
dense nebula
they blew him up at the end of the story so they wouldn't be locked in to his ki...
That’s the one I want ngl
Gimme my double minigun quick dash tank
neon aurora
Got muted. I'm back.
dense nebula
worthy rose
just rein with a bunch of bullets
neon aurora
LOL, the list i made got me muted.
peak escarp
LOL, the list i made got me muted.
that's happened to me before
dense nebula
just rein with a bunch of bullets
Nah, give him a Doomslayer style quick dodge
dreamy epoch
it's actually absurd to me how they released 3 characters with really interesting backstories and they were all two faced busted on release
peak escarp
gotta be careful with big posts
dense nebula
Have any of you guys played Smite? This question is relevant for a character design I want
sharp trench
it's actually absurd to me how they released 3 characters with really interestin...
only interesting one to me is Sojourn honestly, Junkerqueen I guess is okay but thats it
neon aurora
I don't accept friend requests
Well
sharp trench
kiriko is just lowkey generic
clear kestrel
there's a few missions we saw in the 2021 panel - Rio, Toronto, India
what's the name of the map with the torb mission?
dense nebula
kiriko is just lowkey generic
Even the music is generic
peak escarp
what's the name of the map with the torb mission?
Gothenburg
clear kestrel
we saw that too iirc
worthy rose
count on Overwatch to make one of the most interesting characters with one of the collest animated shorts i've seen
and then they just do...nothing with him for the next 3 years
clear kestrel
that's the one I'm most excited for
worthy rose
(talking about Sigma)
sharp trench
count on Overwatch to make one of the most interesting characters with one of th...
bap or sigma
dreamy epoch
oh I was talking about echo sigma and Baptiste 💀
neon aurora
Gothenburg
Did you see the new updated Havana area?
dense nebula
count on Overwatch to make one of the most interesting characters with one of th...
Who?
worthy rose
Sigma
sharp trench
Sigma is actually really fucking cool
dense nebula
Oh yeah
clear kestrel
I love the aesthetic and I like htat it seems to start off calm as well
peak escarp
Did you see the new updated Havana area?
I did
dense nebula
Sigma has so much potential
dreamy epoch
sigma has the best origin story
sharp trench
he's kind of like doc ock but gravity but he is actually pretty decent
peak escarp
I expect all the maps will get expanded like that for the PvE
clear kestrel
like the first part of the mission looks like you just fucking around in Torbs workshop
and THEN nullsector show up
dense nebula
he's kind of like doc ock but gravity but he is actually pretty decent
“Gravity, is a harness…. I have harnessed the harness”
dreamy epoch
I think sig embodies the duality they have Moira piloting and it makes perfect sense
dense nebula
That line goes hard
clear kestrel
"the power of gravity... in the palm of my hand"
dense nebula
"the power of gravity... in the palm of my hand"
“Butterfingers”
neon aurora
@peak escarp I feel like this is Havana. https://imgur.com/a/P1PdtTS
clear kestrel
we havent seen much of the "evil" side established in his animated short
peak escarp
<@207741110838231042> I feel like this is Havana. https://imgur.com/a/P1PdtTS
it's hard to tell
dense nebula
You know what kind of tank I want to see?
clear kestrel
outside of maybe a few of his combat quotes?
dense nebula
A Greek Spartan
neon aurora
it's hard to tell
I mean. The Central building lines up with the capital building in Havana.
worthy rose
also props to Sigma voice actor
he does alot to make Sigma so cool
clear kestrel
he seems angrier and more on edge
everyone seems angrier and more on edge in OW2 now that you mention it
peak escarp
it's hard to tell when it's all just sketcy boxes
neon aurora
True lol
dense nebula
Lord Saladin really gets edgy smh
dreamy epoch
they're gonna do it
they're gonna develop reaper
peak escarp
they did develop Reaper a little
sharp trench
they're gonna do it
they're gonna develop reaper
i hope they do
peak escarp
with Code of Violence
neon aurora
didn't they say there releasing PvE Episodically?
sharp trench
reaper gets quite a few new voicelines
he has one with mercy, some more with ana, etc
peak escarp
they said the PvE would be released through the seasonal content system
clear kestrel
oh yeah we're gonna be getting our first real taste of OW2 pve soon with the junkenstein event
peak escarp
so probably episodic
clear kestrel
they said the PvE would be released through the seasonal content system
im down with that
sharp trench
his new voicelines and sounds are good
neon aurora
so probably episodic
What does that even mean..
sharp trench
but he is not very good ingame
clear kestrel
it means we're not just gonna get the entire story all at once
sharp trench
What does that even mean..
It means you have new PvE released in bursts
neon aurora
No no.
peak escarp
What does that even mean..
it means we're not getting the entire story all at once, but in sections
dense nebula
When are we gonna get a Null Sector rep in game smh
sharp trench
3 missions this season then another 3 next season
clear kestrel
we'll have the hero missions to tide us over
neon aurora
But it's slated for a Q1 Release. Part of it.
dreamy epoch
that kind of thing yeah
clear kestrel
we're getting another junkenstein event soon
clear kestrel
so yea that'll be our first real taste of OW2 PVE
like
hands on
neon aurora
Oh. So 9 weeks.
peak escarp
every 9 weeks
peak escarp
nope
dreamy epoch
no
neon aurora
Season 2 starts December.
peak escarp
not until 2023
dreamy epoch
well ehh
dense nebula
Who do we know in lore that could be new heroes?
dreamy epoch
they could technically do some early stuff in January but I doubt it
clear kestrel
season 3 at the earliest but that's probably wishful thinking
clear kestrel
Who do we know in lore that could be new heroes?
Mauga
dense nebula
Ofc ofc
clear kestrel
maybe the omnic we saw at the end of storm rising
dense nebula
Maximillian?
peak escarp
Who do we know in lore that could be new heroes?
dreamy epoch
it's crazy to me that pve had to be separated
like what was going on there yeesh
peak escarp
this guy NEEDS to be a hero
clear kestrel
that guy
neon aurora
So.. March is when the next season get's released.
(Which is practically when Archives starts).
So I am technically right. (Season 3)
worthy rose
Mauga
There is some Colleselo character that some people think could be a hero
and Maximillian?, eh
dense nebula
Is it bad I want some kind Prophet type omnic that sides with Null Sector as a sort of antithesis to Zenyatta?
sharp trench
I dont think Maximillien would be a hero
clear kestrel
this guy NEEDS to be a hero
he's probably the leader of null sector and hey if Doomfist can be a hero there's nothing barring this guy
worthy rose
Max would just
throw Cards around like Gambit from X-Men
peak escarp
he's probably the leader of null sector and hey if Doomfist can be a hero there'...
my thoughts exactly
clear kestrel
a null sector hero would be fucking awesome honestly
sharp trench
though for some reason Mei is a hero
dense nebula
Make him look like a homeless beggar but have some weird magic like Zen that makes him a terrifying force
neon aurora
I want Casino
They did say, that they don't have plans to release the Meka Squad (But i think this is total BS)
peak escarp
this slow mode is really starting to annoy me 😠
clear kestrel
make Lynx 17 a hero
peak escarp
They did say, that they don't have plans to release the Meka Squad (But i think ...
not current plans, but who knows in the future...
neon aurora
There's too much hype surrounded around the Meka Squad.
peak escarp
make Lynx 17 a hero
yes
clear kestrel
make Lynx 17 a hero
they'd have so many cool interactions with Zarya
neon aurora
not current plans, but who knows in the future...
Wait. Isn't one of the Meka Squad members connected to Maximillian?
clear kestrel
plus we'd get a NB character as a playable hero
neon aurora
Casino?
dense nebula
Here are my wants:
Mauga tank
Zephyrus tank or damage
A prophet Null Sector Omnic as a damage or support
A Spartan Tank
and an Egyptian Medjay sort of like a guardian tank. Something like in For Honor
peak escarp
Wait. Isn't one of the Meka Squad members connected to Maximillian?
yeah, Casino has ties to Monaco, which is where Maximilien has his casino
worthy rose
yes
Casino is a Formula 1 racer iirc
and Max has his hands in the Formula 1 racing scene
dense nebula
plus we'd get a NB character as a playable hero
It’s still a robot tho isn’t it?
So does that fully count?
neon aurora
yeah, Casino has ties to Monaco, which is where Maximilien has his casino
intresting.
clear kestrel
It’s still a robot tho isn’t it?
yeah but they use they/them pronouns so
I guess it would count?
clear kestrel
all the other playable omnic heroes use he/him or she/her
dense nebula
yeah but they use they/them pronouns so
I guess it would count?
Well I barely know anything about Lynx so it’s not gonna be something I’d like to seen soon compared to other potential heroes
peak escarp
all the other playable omnic heroes use he/him or she/her
Bastion uses it/its
neon aurora
Well I barely know anything about Lynx so it’s not gonna be something I’d like t...
Why does it feel like Lynx would be like a Dokeabai from Rainbow but in OW.
(I butchered that name)
peak escarp
(or did until they rewrote the bios...)
clear kestrel
ok yeah I was admittedly iffy on bastion
dense nebula
Why does it feel like Lynx would be like a Dokeabai from Rainbow but in OW.
Isn’t that just Sombra already but more?
neon aurora
Isn’t that just Sombra already but more?
ig
neon aurora
(or did until they rewrote the bios...)
The bios didnt even change for most characters
peak escarp
they butchered the bios
worthy rose
how so
peak escarp
half of them don't even have the heroes' real names
neon aurora
Oh right, it doesn't display all the information. Only very general backstories.
dense nebula
Ngl, I couldn’t care less about the rep a character brings, I just get annoyed when people freak out about it on both sides
peak escarp
Doomfist's talks about "mysterious motives" when we already know what his motives are
nimble brook
Do anything of the characters have middle names?
worthy rose
lmao that is awful
how do you not know the names of your very iconic characters
dense nebula
Do anything of the characters have middle names?
Solider 76 has Francis
peak escarp
Do anything of the characters have middle names?
John "Jack" Francis Morrison and Elizabeth "Calamity" Caledonia Ashe
dense nebula
What kind of a nickname is Calamity? Discord or Hysteria sounds better ngl
neon aurora
Calamity sounds soo much better than ashe tbh
worthy rose
Calamity goes better with Caledonia
dense nebula
Calamity goes better with Caledonia
Booo to alliteration
peak escarp
it's the name she used in the Deadlock Rebels novel for some underground hoverbike races
so they wouldn't realize she was the daughter of the Ashe family
dense nebula
ashe is a calamity
I mean have you seen her outfit combo with that yellow mask?
Talk about a fashion crime
clear kestrel
if and when we get Mauga as a hero they better make his dance emote a Haka
neon aurora
Is Brit a video game character? Or a actual Meka Pilot for the Japanese?
peak escarp
if and when we get Mauga as a hero they better make his dance emote a Haka
absolutely
I've always wanted Roadhog to get a haka
nimble brook
Is Ashe supposed to a horrendous criminal/gang leader or was the then McCree just built different in their showdown?
peak escarp
Is Brit a video game character? Or a actual Meka Pilot for the Japanese?
she seems to be the spokes-character for a virtual travel house
worthy rose
where is it said that Roadhog is a kiwi?
clear kestrel
yea I dunno why roadhog didn't get one but with Mauga I'd say it'd fit his warlike personality more
dense nebula
she seems to be the spokes-character for a virtual travel house
When in doubt, shove em into a robot suit
neon aurora
Watch Brit be the next hero 
peak escarp
where is it said that Roadhog is a kiwi?
it's not outright said, but there's a lot of hints, like his voice lines and name and design elements
sharp trench
mauga is the type of person to dance in the eye of collateral damage
clear kestrel
they should make the indestructible waiter bots in oasis a hero
dense nebula
You think we could get a hero based on Hannibal Barca from the Punic Wars?
neon aurora
Okay but seriously, are we 100% certain its Mauga.
clear kestrel
I think there's been leaks to suggest it
peak escarp
look at the design on his teacup
worthy rose
Okay but seriously, are we 100% certain its Mauga.
OW team already expressed interest in making him a hero
peak escarp
Maori kowhaiwhai designs
nimble brook
How long ago was Australia nuked that the people there don't need hazmat suits?
worthy rose
I see
clear kestrel
roadhog needs more islander inspired skins
neon aurora
What does that mean..? Hogs Native Hawaiian?
peak escarp
Maori
worthy rose
How long ago was Australia nuked that the people there don't need hazmat suits?
considering how long it takes for a place affected by nuclear fallout to return to somewhat habitable levels
a LOOOOOONG ass time
dense nebula
How long ago was Australia nuked that the people there don't need hazmat suits?
Never needed them, Australians are both with an innate resistance to radiation don’t you know?
peak escarp
I want them to confirm it, but it's pretty strongly hinted
dense nebula
I want them to confirm it, but it's pretty strongly hinted
Does the name Mako Rutledge sound Kiwi?
neon aurora
Is mauga Hawaiian also?
peak escarp
Never needed them, Australians are both with an innate resistance to radiation d...
Roadhog suffers from radiation poisoning, that's what his breather is for - it's antiradiation medicine
peak escarp
Does the name Mako Rutledge sound Kiwi?
"mako" is Maori for "shark"
dense nebula
Roadhog suffers from radiation poisoning, that's what his breather is for - it's...
I said Australians and not Kiwis, further solidifying Roadhog’s origin
dense nebula
"mako" is Maori for "shark"
So you’re telling me a Mako Shark is just a Shark squared?
peak escarp
yup
dense nebula
nimble brook
Shark Shark
clear kestrel
I kinda hate how hard it is to define Roadies accent
peak escarp
"beached as" and "wop-wops" are also Kiwi slang
Roadhog has those in his voice lines
nimble brook
What about when he says "sweet ass"
dense nebula
That’s more city slang if anything ngl
neon aurora
"beached as" and "wop-wops" are also Kiwi slang
Omg, so Roadhog is actually Mama Hong!
worthy rose
I'm a Roadhog main
and I never heard Hog say sweet ass
dense nebula
I don’t think Hog ever swears now that I think about it?
peak escarp
dense nebula
Mobile moment
peak escarp
it's a Roadhog line
dense nebula
nimble brook
The second s is crossed out
peak escarp
"Sweet as."
dense nebula
You know what annoys me? Sojourn has a gun in her arm but never uses it in her kit
peak escarp
You know what annoys me? Sojourn has a gun in her arm but never uses it in her k...
she uses it with her disruptor shot
nimble brook
Isn't it the sucky pull ability
nimble brook
It's a singularity isn't it?
worthy rose
when I first saw Soujorn I figured she'd use it for her ult
so I was kinda disappointed
dense nebula
What if we got a Scottish Highlander style hero with a shotgun in the Claymore?
Guns inside swords existed historically as well so don’t try and tell me that
nimble brook
Ah yes, the gunblade
worthy rose
so just
Leon
dense nebula
so just
Leon
Who?
nimble brook
Kennedy?
dense nebula
Not that useless piece of crap
worthy rose
he also smokes you in the first Kingdom Hearts
dense nebula
I mean a sword that had a built in gun
Where the trigger was connected to the hilt and fired out near the guard
It wasn’t that popular in history ngl
nimble brook
That's a whole class in ffxiv
viral olive
They’re called gun breakers
Using the propulsion of the shot it will increase damage potential
nimble brook
Imagine if overwatch was an mmo
peak escarp
Project Titan
crimson girder
is it canon that moira can suck the life out of me :3
worthy rose
she literally does that to some talon soldiers in the retribution cutscene
crimson girder
she literally does that to some talon soldiers in the retribution cutscene
thats so hot
worthy rose
not the word I would use
peak escarp
she'd probably smell like antiseptic
dense nebula
You know what I’m wondering?
When are we gonna get our obligatory Scandinavian metal enthusiast hero?
peak escarp
Norwegian death metal hero whose weapon is an axe (weapon) that is also an axe (guitar)
dense nebula
Nidhoggr from Bleeding Edge (RIP)
crimson girder
Nidhoggr from Bleeding Edge (RIP)
ni who????
dense nebula
Nidhoggr mythology wise is the dragon that lived under the world tree Yggdrasil in Norse mythology that chews on its roots hoping to one day destroy it
crimson girder
thats gotta be racist
dense nebula
Nidhoggr In game was a Norwegian Black metal fan that wielded a lighting spewing guitar axe and had a mechanical jaw that allowed him to breathe fire
dense nebula
thats gotta be racist
Also what?
crimson girder
was a BLACK? nah i dont endorse this bro
crisp sierra
BLM
dense nebula
Do you know anything about metal?
dense nebula
I can’t tell if /j or /srs right now
crimson girder
im /reporting u
dense nebula
So anyways, a damage Scandinavian Death Metal hero that specializes in flanking and high single target damage could be cool
worthy rose
the new hero got J's on her feet.
royal flame
Why some character name (change) in ow2?
peak escarp
what do you mean?
dense nebula
Because he shared the same name as a no no toucher irl, but then again so do many other characters in gaming
royal flame
like mccree
royal flame
I didn't touch ow since 2020, rip
torpid schooner
cassidy is a mid name ngl, merc woulda been cooler + matt Mercer inspired
peak escarp
naming the character after a person was part of the problem
they weren't going to name him after Matt Mercer
dreamy epoch
me when I perpetuate the problem
wanton wedge
Quick question, does Reaper hate everyone from OW? I was listening to one of his voicelines with Junkrat (I was junkrat, my team mate was reaper) and he said "You got a problem, Junkrat" all aggressive- like uh wtf?
peak escarp
he's got a lot of rage
worthy rose
He seems to be on decent terms with Doomfist and Widowmaker
wanton wedge
Oh, I know that he has an issue with Soldier 76 because of something between him, Ana and Soldier 76. But I was not expecting the voice line
worthy rose
Iirc he believes Soldier abandoned him or something
wanton wedge
😦
clear kestrel
he seems to have a vendetta against the organisation itself
and anyone involved with it
I dunno if that's still the case anymore
the whole "hunting down former overwatch agents" part of his character might have been abandoned
wanton wedge
Damn, poor Reaper 💔