ivory cove
Maybe everyone already know this but…yesterday I played OW1 again and heard this interaction between Orisa and Zen
Orisa:
-Tekhartha Zenyatta, I wish to learn about the Iris.
Zenyatta:
AI would be happy to teach you.
So that explains her Javelin ability’s!
She is using hard-light like Genji and Zen
opaque tundra
Well I mean I guess it’s possible but it’s not confirmed if genji and/or zen uses hard light technology
It’s not confirmed if the technology comes from the iris either
The iris is still a big mystery but I can see where you were coming from
ivory cove
It’s not confirmed if the technology comes from the iris either
I mean the javelin’s color is similar to Zen and Genji’s hands when they are using their ability’s
ivory cove
The iris is still a big mystery but I can see where you were coming from
I wish we would get more lore about iris in OW2 PVE
opaque tundra
Oh I have a feeling we’re gonna learn at least something about the iris
ivory cove
Oh I have a feeling we’re gonna learn at least something about the iris
Cuz talon will strike Nepal
opaque tundra
Genji’s deflect hands and Zen’s hands aren’t canon as far as we know. As for Talon striking Nepal, it’s certainly possible but they’re already attacking India so I don’t see why they would? Unless it’s a two step operation we’ll see
ivory cove
Genji’s deflect hands and Zen’s hands aren’t canon as far as we know. As for Tal...
I mean it’s led by Sombra and Widow so yeah it could be a diversion
opaque tundra
Idk I mean there’s gotta be something else. If it’s just a diversion, why send an entire army after two dudes?
The rest of overwatch could easily answer some Nepal distress signal so why not target them as well?
peak escarp
Maybe everyone already know this but…yesterday I played OW1 again and heard this...
Orisa already uses hard-light, with her Halt
her hard light caster is Luxor brand
willow prairie
Why does sym hate lucio and vice versa
limpid agate
!!loreheroes lucio
twilit nacelleBOT
To learn more, please visit https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/lucio#story
peak escarp
Symmetra hates Lucio because he stole from her company
limpid agate
Its basically all in this bio
peak escarp
what
worthy rose
yes
dont mind me, im just malding that zarya has no wall piercing ability thats based on energy level
peak escarp
what does that have to do with lore?
peak escarp
who?
peak escarp
when did it show that?
worthy rose
the comic following the sombra cinematic
her and the omnic tracking her down, melting a wall in the process
peak escarp
this?
peak escarp
that wasn't melting the door, that was cutting through the locks
peak escarp
and it was a door, not a wall
worthy rose
its burnt to a crisp anyway
peak escarp
lots of heroes can do things in lore that they can't do in the game
worthy rose
no shit
peak escarp
like Symmetra's hard light bridge
worthy rose
what gave that away
peak escarp
no need to get mad about it
worthy rose
we all play overwatch my guy, thats our passive ability, being defensive
silk lark
Honestly comics wise
They’re pretty accurate with what the weapons can do
Aside from in game not being able to for obvious reasons
It just shows how thought out the heroes are
worthy rose
True
Just wish some of their lore counterparts bleed into to the game at some point, I know they won't, but you can't deny piercing corner walls at 80+ energy would not only look cool, it would add a bit of depth to the character
code is already there, might aswell prototype it
but i aint a game dev, so im just talkin shit
peak escarp
the game puts more limits on some abilities (particularly ultimates) for balance reasons
if the game was lore compliant everyone would have at-will ults
and generally be OP
worthy rose
well if we use that logic, you can only use ults a few times before you cant anymore
realistically, how many pulse bombs is tracer carrying, and same for torb turrets?
peak escarp
if her translocator gets destroyed, Sombra can't translocate again for the rest of the match
worthy rose
technically it does get destroyed upon use
but you've missed the point, i never said id like the game to be more lore based, just that some parts of the lore can be molded as additional passives or abilities
peak escarp
I know you didn't say that, I was just spitballing
worthy rose
understandable
peak escarp
I agree though - the game should take more abilities from the lore
like Symmetra's light bridge
worthy rose
whats that again?
peak escarp
and Reaper's smoke grenades
worthy rose
and that too lol
peak escarp
worthy rose
now that you mention it, nobody has a smoke grenade ability in the game that was based on unique abilities
if they really wanted to, they could make sym make all sorts of shit, but it would be too costly
silk lark
now that you mention it, nobody has a smoke grenade ability in the game that was...
Realistically Mcree should have the most dangerous arsenal
He’s a goddamn cowboy
worthy rose
as funny as that is, nah
dunno what the hell avenger is or how it converts incoming projectiles, but shit is deadly
bastions were and are deadly as fuck
rocket hammer eh, cool i guess
technically sym can just cut someone in half with hardlight
cosmic crest
Realistically Mcree should have the most dangerous arsenal
If anything, Cassidy is comically under equiped compared to everyone else
He's just a guy with a revolver
peak escarp
we don't know the limits of hard light
worthy rose
speaking of hardlight
peak escarp
Symm is basically a green lantern
peak escarp
I believe so
worthy rose
because it doesnt seem like hardlight
maybe its just an older variant of the current hardlight, and since we dont really know the limits like youve said, it has that absorb rate
worthy rose
guess zarya is anakin pre vader then lol
special shit
so are omniums just big forgeries for omnics?
peak escarp
yep
worthy rose
okay, so how did the russian one boot up all of a sudden?
most logical answer would be some omnics fuckin around
peak escarp
probably
worthy rose
and in the current timeline its destroyed, but devastated the whole area around it
peak escarp
the Russian omnium is the only one that got shut down without Overwatch's help
worthy rose
so what is russia fighting? the ones that didnt go down with it?
worthy rose
ah okay, i got it mixed up
peak escarp
the Russian omnium was just shut down
and I guess omnics took it over and woke it up
worthy rose
so is kings row also an omnium?
iirc its named the grid, but its just a resting place for the omnics of london
right?
worthy rose
hold up, was paris attacked at the same time as Novanskoye?
peak escarp
Russia was actively at war with the omnics
the ones they're fighting aren't Null Sector
worthy rose
Perhaps not coincidentally, the Krasnoyarsk breakthrough occurred simultaniously with an attack by Null Sector on Paris.
so this was zero hour
who would win, the big zero hour bot or A Svyatogor
peak escarp
worthy rose
maybe not that deep of a question, since we dont know if russia fought against anything of that size, although i could be wrong, maybe the art showed something of that size
dunno what they are even called, they cant be called omnic colossus, since the actual one that fought against meka was much much bigger
hell, are the gwishin even associated with null sector? maybe a branch?
peak escarp
and then the first page of issue 5
peak escarp
hell, are the gwishin even associated with null sector? maybe a branch?
not that we know of
worthy rose
so there is basically 3 different omnic groups
peak escarp
at least
worthy rose
null sec, gwishin, and the russian ominum
peak escarp
they're as diverse as humans
worthy rose
but we dont know if they all want the same thing as null
id take a wager and say the russian ones are just out to kill
stereotypical, i know
wdym?
where is this revealed
peak escarp
I was thinking of the wrong thing
peak escarp
Volskaya is getting tech from omnics, but those omnics aren't the ones they're at war with
Sombra used it as blackmail against her in Infiltration
worthy rose
were the OR14 robots corrupted by null sector or made by them?
OR14 was produced in the numbani omnium, so i guess they took the made ones and customized them to the NS variant for london
also the paris one was a titan
not colossus
worthy rose
thats the best kind of internet
peak escarp
I dont think the OR14s were built in Numbani - they were around during the crisis, long before Numbani existed
the OR15s were made in Numbani
worthy rose
The OR14 was a line of omnic built in Nigeria's massive manufacturing omnium.[1] It later became a frontline combatant during the Omnic Crisis
or15s were then built and orisa is the one and only or16 after 15s got fucked by df
worthy rose
i cant find that info
peak escarp
Orisa says it in OW2 when eliminating enemy Orisa
"You are in need of an upgrade, OR15-A"
worthy rose
aaah
sharp trench
who would win, the big zero hour bot or A Svyatogor
probably a svyatogor
ember pendant
I dont think the OR14s were built in Numbani - they were around during the crisi...
Wasn’t the omnic Crisis only a decade or so ago? Is numbani that young of a city?
ember pendant
Oh yeah I’m mixing up the fall of overwatch with the omnic crisis
peak escarp
a lot of people do
ember pendant
and when did the omnic crisis end
Cause didn’t tracer fight in it? that would make her like 50
peak escarp
it's unclear how long the crisis lasted
no, Tracer didnt fight in the crisis
she's only 25
the crisis was over by the time Brigitte was born, which is 23 years ago
so 4-5 years is likely
peak escarp
that was during the fall of Overwatch
King's Row was Tracer's first mission
7 years ago
peak escarp
Retribution was 8 years ago, Storm Rising was 6 years ago, and Overwatch was disbanded 5 years ago
blissful verge
Wasn't zenyatta that guys brother the guy who got shot by widow?
fringe thistle
its brothers in a religious way
like how nuns are sisters and priests are fathers
blissful verge
Oh okay thank yall
supple laurel
God I can't wait for Symmetra to pop the fuck off
devout sun
I have no freaking idea about the overwatch lore can someone teach me?
open ruin
I am not qualified for that job
devout sun
Ok lol
worn island
I have no freaking idea about the overwatch lore can someone teach me?
You could start by taking a look at this channels pinned messages
peak escarp
I have no freaking idea about the overwatch lore can someone teach me?
!!loreguide
twilit nacelleBOT
This is a guide for people who don't know where to begin with the lore of Overwatch. The first thing is probably to go watch the shorts. They're popular, easy to consume, and pack a lot of story and character.
Shorts Playlist: https://bit.ly/2UQyTeL
There are many comics, short stories, and blog posts as well. The most important ones are:
Binary: https://bit.ly/2IzNvJy
Masquerade: https://bit.ly/2IzNTI0
What You Left Behind: https://bit.ly/2Fh7MRz
Stone By Stone: https://bit.ly/36EsPul
Also important for Overwatch 2 is Cassidy's comic series, New Blood:
#1: https://bit.ly/3wJqcnL
#2: https://bit.ly/3ejXkd0
#3: https://bit.ly/3fbBwB3
#4: https://bit.ly/3B9zLOE
#5: https://bit.ly/3iaM0lB
There is also an important chain of events following Ana and Soldier 76 (and Mercy at the end):
Legacy: https://bit.ly/2DgM1jQ
Old Soldiers: https://bit.ly/2KLILTV
Bastet: https://bit.ly/2QuXHmM
Valkyrie: https://bit.ly/2CF5JVE
The rest of the stories are mostly optional. Special mention goes out to the Junkers, who have an entertaining string of stories:
Wasted Land: https://bit.ly/2DeKB9G
A Moment in Crime: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Going Legit: https://bit.ly/2InZUkm
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC
still merlin
jack morrison am i right
peak escarp
John Francis "Jack" Morrison
opal nexus
hes DEAD and a CRIMINAL
peak escarp
that is what this channel is for
past copper
Honestly, there’s really not much to talk about right now
We’ve all pretty much talked about everything we know of so far
Nothing to really do cept wait for OW2 3rd beta and Sojourn’s book
peak escarp
the Sojourn novel doesn't come out until October
past copper
Yeah I know. But we’ll probably not get much more lore until then
With the possible exception to the long hinted at fox themed hero
tall sleet
I hope we get some nice lore for them
Me still want my widowmaker Netflix Girlboss show
peak escarp
we'll see her soon enough
past copper
I’m just hoping she’s a new support. I like tanks and dps as much as the next guy, but I’d like to see the least favored role get someone new
tall sleet
I think she will be
past copper
I knew she was female. Someone in Blizzard said their appearance was that of a short haired woman with a fox at her side
peak escarp
it's very likely that the Fox Girl is Asa Yamagami's daugher, and her fox is a projection in the same manner as the Shimada dragons
grand wedge
What do you think about the weapon Toshiro Yamagami gave her daughter is what creates that projection? That could be why only a Shimada could control the dragons, and also why he is held hostage to build such weapons for the Hashimoto.
opal nexus
hashimoto pve faction 
past copper
Well, ninja have a wide arrange of weapons. Genji’s sword, tantō, and shuriken. Hanzo’s bow and arrows
lapis jetty
What
past copper
There’s no magic if that’s what you’re implying
past copper
It’s not that we know of. There’s no magic. Everything in Overwatch is science and technology
The story of the two dragons is just that. A story
lapis jetty
Then how do you explain the whole idea of the Dragons themselves?
The ultimates?
There has to be an in lore explanation for it.
past copper
Japan has many stories and legends about mythical creatures with no proof of their existence
opal nexus
i think the statement saying they werent magical was ages ago
who knows what couldve changed
past copper
Regardless, they’re apart of Japan’s culture
opal nexus
lapis jetty
Regardless, they’re apart of Japan’s culture
Doesn't answer my question.
If anything it makes it more relevant.
grand wedge
i think the statement saying they werent magical was ages ago
who knows what cou...
what is magic, if something not yet explained by science 
opal nexus
past copper
Japan has countless stories. Stories. Show proof otherwise they’re not real
And the ults are hardlight. Probably with tattoo technology to use them
lapis jetty
I dunno.
shy hornet
magic is just science we cant understand yet fr
lapis jetty
The offical Hanzo abilities overview even specifically says that they are spirits.
"Dragon Strike: Launch a deadly Dragon Spirit that devastates enemies it passes through."
Spirit is the key word.
If you don't believe me check it out.
https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/hanzo/
past copper
It’s not magic or a spirit. It’s hardlight with a form and design to resemble that of a spirit
grand wedge
I was just trying to point out that Toshiro Yamagami could be an important character regarding the fabrication of weapons able to give their wielder with photon projection of animal spirits or whatever those are. Ever since the Shimada are gone, this ability could be used by others. And since we know that Toshiro gifted her daughter a weapon he made himself, and that she has some kind of spirit fox with her...
past copper
The dragon comes off his tattoo, which could be advanced tech to create a hardlight affect when he uses his Dragon Strike with his arrow
Genji’s dragon literally comes off his blade. Which is technology. So it’s hardlight
shy hornet
please feel free to check out reference source 10
lapis jetty
The dragon comes off his tattoo, which could be advanced tech to create a hardli...
But it hasn't been confirmed.
So it could be either or.
But it's most likely Hardlight tbh.
shy hornet
it was confirmed at 2017 blizzcon that hanzos dragon isnt magic
shy hornet
literally just one look at his wiki page lol
past copper
Confirmed. Not magic. So if it’s not magic, hardlight
shy hornet
^^
lapis jetty
Alr.
glad we have that out of the way
But how exactly does Tracer's whole condition work exactly.
Like I get it but don't get it.
opal nexus
wym
lapis jetty
Like
opal nexus
she involuntarily jumps out of the timeline if she doesnt have her accelerator nearby
lapis jetty
How does the accelerator keep her anchored tho?
lapis jetty
Then how tf did winston do it
opal nexus
if we asked winston he'd probably go on for like an hour or so about it
lapis jetty
Cause if winston did it
He theoretically did reverse time travel.
If you get what I'm saying.
past copper
She was in an accident with a new jet that was supposed to teleport, but it malfunctions and it disappeared for months with Tracer
past copper
Tracer didn’t reappear until later with a strange affliction that caused her to fade in and out of space and time until Winston built a device to anchor her
past copper
Over time, Tracer learned she could jump forwards or backwards in her own time and trained to control it
opal nexus
we'll probably never get an explanation
lapis jetty
opal nexus
thats like asking for an explanation on how sigma harnesses the power of a black hole without ripping hte planet apart
opaque scroll
worthy rose
Wuts lore?
lapis jetty
How Tracer's Accelerator works.
grand wedge
Science-fiction is like that : based on actual science, but if you want to go deep into why/how it works, it would make no sense
opal nexus
it really do be like that
opal nexus
yes
lapis jetty
opal nexus
past copper
It’s based on the same teleportation tech as the jet. But because of her odd affliction, instead of simply just teleporting from point A to point B, she’s teleporting through time. Which allows her to teleport 1 second in her own time forwards or backwards
lapis jetty
So technically
past copper
If you want a simpler idea. Try Hit from DBS
opal nexus
yknow thats actually a good comparison
wait did we ever know what happened to the plane
lapis jetty
The function of the jet was essentially thrusted into her instead? Or rather, the energy to teleport was, which created a ripple affect on space time.
past copper
As far as we know, the plane was lost
lapis jetty
As far as we know, the plane was lost
That plane wasn't lost. It's teleporting throughout time. Its obvious because Tracer was. Whatever or whoever was inside it suffered the same fate. Even a small house fly.
opal nexus
thatd be a cool challenge modifier for pve
past copper
The Slipstream required a pilot. I doubt it would still be flying without one
grand wedge
That plane wasn't lost. It's teleporting throughout time. Its obvious because Tr...
It is lost, there is a voiceline about it : https://vxtwitter.com/owgwadael/status/1543319992749494273
where/when it is lost tho... we don't know ^^
past copper
Plus, if the Slipstream is based on the same tech as her chronel accelerator, it would have a limited power source, because her anchor needs to recharge
lapis jetty
True but where did it go then? If the Slipstream teleported along with Tracer, than it has to have suffered the same Chronoal Dissociation, but not permanently though.
Maybe it went forwards or backwards in time.
Would be cool if it was dug up as some sort of fossil ngl.
opal nexus
the true macguffin of the pve story
lapis jetty
past copper
It’s an inanimate object that even if it did suffer the same affect, probably was lost wherever she flew it. So it most likely crashed in the middle of nowhere
lapis jetty
She flew it at a Overwatch base in London if I'm correct.
opal nexus
lets just hope whatever was powering the timejumper was damaged in the crash
past copper
And I’ll tell you now, if it were easy to find a missing plane, don’t you think we would have found all the ones that disappeared over the years
lapis jetty
True.
Just saying the whole mystery of the Slipstream is interesting because when you take into account that it was lost with Lena it could've been lost at any other point in time. Past or Future.
It isn't really about finding it. Its merely about marveling about it.
That's what is so intersting about The Bermuda Triangle.
opal nexus
true true
lapis jetty
Rick and Morty episode plays in my head
past copper
Look, whether it was the teleportation device itself or whatever fuel it used, the jet would’ve ran out of it at some point. And keep in mind, Tracer was the first and only living person to test the jet. So it’s unlikely to assume the jet was affected by the device and that only something organic or a person could be affected
This could explain why Tracer doesn’t blink with anyone else, because they could potentially be affected too
past copper
We don’t know where she flew it. When it comes to testing experimental vehicles, the last place you’d do it is near any populated areas. We don’t even know the limits to the teleportation or the dangers if it actually worked
lapis jetty
I'm pretty sure they specified it was nearby the Overwatch Base in London.
past copper
Tracer can at least control where she blinks. But with a jet, you could accidentally blink straight into something by complete accident
lapis jetty
Good point.
past copper
I think we’ve ALL seen the dangers of jumping through hyperspace from The Last Jedi. If the Slipstream didn’t fail, that would’ve been the same conclusion for it
opal nexus
it seems like its localised only to her
lapis jetty
But is it possible.
opal nexus
past copper
No. That’s something impossible for a human in Overwatch. This isn’t Marvel
Also, there’s no mention of an Overwatch Watchpoint in London
opal nexus
if there was it probably wouldve made the null sector uprising a lot easier for overwatch to deal with
past copper
If there was one in London, do you really think the country would’ve been against Overwatch getting involved at the King’s Row Uprising?
lapis jetty
Trueeee
but then again Overwatch wasn't allowed to interfere with the Uprising due to the fact that London's Gov didn't want Overwatch getting in the way of things.
past copper
And...? We just said that
lapis jetty
anyways
@opal nexus how do you feel about pro gamers becoming protectors of thier country 
past copper
Anyway, about whatever weapon the mystery fox girl will have. Take your pick
My best guess is either the tessen or naginata
opal nexus
im still vouching for the comically large shuriken
past copper
I can think of a number of reasons why that wouldn’t work. But off the top of my head, because how would she retrieve it? They can’t do the same thing they did with Junker Queen’s knife. Especially after just coming out with her
opal nexus
i was just thinking some sort of boomerang effect
but yeah it would overlap with JQ's magnet schtick
past copper
A shuriken can’t boomerang. Once they hit something, they stick or they keep flying straight
That’s especially true because Genji’s shurikens are designed differently
opal nexus
right but considering OW a boomerang shuriken really isnt that far fetched
like the glaive from warframe essentially
past copper
Not without making it too much like J. Queen
opal nexus
fair point
if anything i'd go with tessen
fairly inconspicuous weapon too
im not sure if the hashimoto would allow toshiro to deliver a weapon to his family
past copper
What would be better are a pair of tessen with magnetic blades. Think of Shredder from the TMNT Paramount movie with his magnetic gauntlet blades
They wouldn’t have a similar magnetic ability to Queen’s, because they wouldn’t have a pulling affect and come right back to the fan after launching from them
But idk. That might be a bit much
opal nexus
warfans would fit quite well with what is probably the wind theming of the fox spirit
past copper
In that, it make more sense to be a gunbai.
opal nexus
oh yeah true
the guitar-shaped weapons right
well most of them are actually paddle shaped
past copper
Well, they were mostly used to communicate commands and signals
opal nexus
ye ye
grand wedge
don"t forget the temple theme too. Asa's family were taking care of the fox temple
past copper
If the fox girl uses a gunbai, it would be interesting and given she’s a support, it would probably fit her
warped sinew
I just realized we never got anything regarding the hazmat guy nor the giant Red Reinhardt guy in the original Overwatch trailer lol
Like when they display all the hero’s at once
limpid agate
The "Red Reinhardt" guy is called Wildebeest
Its design was transformed into Reinhardt, Orisa, and Brigitte
Wildebeest will likely never become a hero, but does canonically still exist as an ex-Overwatch agent
peak escarp
just because she's Japanese doesn't mean she will be a kunoichi
peak escarp
in fact I'd prefer if she wasn't
because it's a bit cliche if all 3 Japanese heroes are ninja
lapis jetty
Wildebeest will likely never become a hero, but does canonically still exist as ...
Mind sharing some images?
limpid agate
!!wiki wildebeest
twilit nacelleBOT
For more information about the game, please refer to the wiki: https://overwatch.gamepedia.com/wildebeest
lapis jetty
He actually seems pretty cool
The design is cool
I'd imagine him as a quicker yet equally as heavy as Reinhardt.
past cairn
Guys do u think ACCELERANDO has to do with lore
glossy arrow
yes
wise meadow
past copper
I’ll be straight, I’m just putting this out there as a small thought.
You know there’s an Overwatch cartoon series in Overwatch? I’ll bet they have the game actually in Overwatch too. Just not as similar to the game we play because nobody knows anything bout some of the characters backstories.
Wouldn’t that be something?
sharp trench
no they just have the future equivalent of call of duty
limpid agate
I’ll be straight, I’m just putting this out there as a small thought.
You know ...
Ive said it elsewhere but
It would be cool to get the in-universe Overwatch game as a sort of spinoff standalone thing
Or get a Netflix series to be the Overwatch Cartoon in universe
Like, take in universe media and release it as content
past copper
That would be cool, but you’d have to figure out where to begin an Overwatch series
Which is why I’ve kinda been thinking a series would come out next year after the story mode is added
compact cobalt
We should get a mature animated show of like reaper and talon just decimating people on missions
🤓
solemn mauve
Where does the game (ow1) take place in the overwatch universe and what’s the context behind it like are some previously overwatch agents being hired to move a cargo and some more being hired to stop it or is it soft cannon and doesn’t matter
limpid warren
star wars lore on top
iron plume
Where does the game (ow1) take place in the overwatch universe and what’s the c...
The actions in-game (other than Archives) aren't canon
Some situations are, like Talon moving to take something from Ilios and Overwatch going to stop them
And player interactions are a what-if (Tracer would say what she says in-game if she was somehow on 'teaming up' with Sombra, etc)
But ultimately there's not been any missions exactly like what you play through in PvP
solemn mauve
Alright thanks
molten shore
Can lucio beat tracer in a race
peak escarp
probably not
worn island
Is he even that mobile out of game?
cosmic crest
Yes, but ultimately his ability to move quickly comes from his skates, where as Tracer has an actual super power that lets her effectively teleport.
I don't think it should be much of a contest.
opal nexus
he clearly wasnt fast enough in that rio ending cutscene 
worthy rose
hardlight is susceptible to micro emps/emps?
It shuts down shields, and even zarya's barrier, so theoretically it can completely destroy a city of hardlight and nothing but hardlight?
the only limitation would be its radius
peak escarp
possibly
worthy rose
isnt there a plan for a hardlight city in the lore?
correction, there is a city made out of hardlight
limpid agate
hardlight is susceptible to micro emps/emps?
I dont think we've ever seen the two technologies interact
Correct me if I missed something
worthy rose
lore wise, yeah
worthy rose
Can lucio beat tracer in a race
Probrably not. I think her teleportation is too fast
molten shore
I think in-game lucio is faster but not lore
tall sleet
In game I’m p sure tracer and genji have the fastest base movement speed
But I’m sure lucio with speed would be faster in game
peak escarp
in the lore Tracer is fastest by far
other heroes might be able to beat her from point A to point B by teleporting, but she'd win in a footrace
maybe even a footrace without blinking, since she's an experienced sprinter
tall sleet
Tracer in summer Olympics when
peak escarp
the hamster or the mech?
tall sleet
The mech
peak escarp
he could roll faster
tall sleet
Slay
peak escarp
but that's not really a fair contest
if it was just Hammond I don't think he could keep up
tall sleet
I’d root for him
peak escarp
now, this is for a sprint
if it's long distance, my money would be on Sojourn or Genji - cyborg legs don't tire
or Soldier/Reaper, since they're supersoldiers
opal nexus
soldiers just out for a morning jog
not like those youngins and their fancy tech
molten shore
Torbs turret is obviously the fastest
limpid agate
That's just gameplay
Sombra isn't particularly fast relative to others
After Tracer who can literally teleport, heroes like Pharah, Reinhardt, or Sojourn who just have engines built into them, or Hammond or D.Va who are in vehicles.
The fastest would probably be Genji. And he's still a cyborg.
Take Pharah or D.Va out of their armor, and they rank lower. But you cant remove Genji's legs
Same with Sojourn
So you would have to either disqualify heroes like Genji or Sojourn, or just accept that they win
worthy rose
!lfg
sharp trench
is there any lore putting into detail orisa's construction from cannibalization of the or15s to complete
peak escarp
Hero of Numbani covers her construction
the chassis was bought at a private auction for 1 million naira (approximately $2,500 USD)
and it was specifically the one Doomfist smashed into the wall at the airport
@sharp trench
it also goes into a little detail on why her design is what it is, and the contributors to Orisa's voice (which includes Sojourn)
sharp trench
I thought Orisa was made from multiple different parts of destroyed OR15s
peak escarp
nope, it was just one with a few added parts
she got it for cheap because it was mangled beyond repair
the majority of the OR15s were still functioning, but well out of her price range
still merlin
reinhardt wilhelm am i right
opal nexus
stop giving grandpa so many prayers!!! he'll start thinking he can solo the null sector titan!!!
worthy rose
I just briefly read a discussion about who the fastest hero here is.
I wonder if you guys ever figured out who the slowest hero is.
peak escarp
I wonder if you guys ever figured out who the slowest hero is.
Torbjorn
on account of his height
worthy rose
that’s a good answer tbh, makes sense.
past copper
By that logic, wouldn’t Hammond be the slowest without his mech
peak escarp
possibly
opal nexus
he looks pretty speedy in that repair emote of his but im pretty sure most of the cast could outrun him
worthy rose
By that logic, wouldn’t Hammond be the slowest without his mech
well in that case
we’d have to remove all mechanic advantages all the heroes have
so
but if it were a scenario where hammond wasn’t in his ball mech then yeah, hammond would be the slowest.. wait
even then he’s a big hamster, don’t hamsters walk in fours ?
or does hammond walk in 2 because he’s super intelligent ?
violet dome
or does hammond walk in 2 because he’s super intelligent ?
since hes super intelligent shouldnt he do the option that would give him the most speed
iron plume
well he's also not exactly proportioned the same as a normal hamster
and then still hamsters aren't that fast
violet dome
ur not wrong
worthy rose
since hes super intelligent shouldnt he do the option that would give him the mo...
fair
also fair magician.
desert yacht
or does hammond walk in 2 because he’s super intelligent ?
depends on what he needs
some of the reasons humans developed bipedalism was to conserve energy over long periods of walking as walking on 2 legs isn't nearly as taxing as walking on 4 over long distances
and one of the other main reasons was to decrease overall body exposure to the sun
since our ancestors lived in some of the hotter parts of africa
i dont think
those are very big issues for hammond
violet dome
yeah
desert yacht
if they were to make him walk on 2 legs it'd probably just be for show
without too much of a biological reason
peak escarp
he probably walks on 4s most of the time, but 2s when he needs his hands free
desert yacht
that too he uses a lot of tools
which is probably another reason bipedalism developed in hominids
desert yacht
gotta use the knowledge from that anthropology class for something
worthy rose
fair point
and I agree
which means, hammond might be able to be faster than torb if he ran on all fours
lapis jetty
Has it been confirmed that Bob ripped off Cassidy's arm?
cunning ledge
it has not
lapis jetty
Ah. It seems likely tbh as if I remember correctly, Ashe and Cassidy fought as she found out he was leaving the Gang.
Which doesn't make sense tbh because he still had his arm during Retribution.
past copper
We’ve never seen a bastion run besides in gameplay
So that kinda rules out Bastion being the slowest without logical evidence
Besides that. You gotta take into account what makes some of them slow
fringe thistle
We’ve never seen a bastion run besides in gameplay
honor and glory
past copper
Hammond without mech
Roadhog because of his weight
Reinhardt because of his heavy armor
Orisa due to a heavy body
fringe thistle
they weigh like 5 tons at least and they have only ever been shown moving incredibly slow
even in tank form
especially without tank form they're insanely slow
past copper
Yeah. Because they walking in Honor and Glory
I said run
They literally never run aside from in game
past copper
OR-15’s could run and they were designed after OR-14’s
They were heavier than Bastion units
fringe thistle
they're built like a centaur
they have reasonable weight distribution and center of balance
they probably could gallop if they wanted to
bastions are built to be super clunky and slow, they're tanks
past copper
Their centaur body is literally designed after a hippopotamus
They weren’t meant to run or anything, but they can
There were first designed to counter the Crusaders
Then the OR-15 was built to counter Doomfist
So, if this heavy robot was built with the capability to run, you know Bastions were
Besides that, Bastions weren’t being produced to run in and destroy as quickly as possible
They were built to move in as battalions, attacking relentlessly with overwhelming numbers
fringe thistle
he chonk
peak escarp
Their centaur body is literally designed after a hippopotamus
based on a hippopotamus? what?
also, hippos can run
opal nexus
Ah. It seems likely tbh as if I remember correctly, Ashe and Cassidy fought as s...
pretty sure cassidy was just arrested by blackwatch then given the choice of joining the organisation or going to jail
idk if ashe had anything to do with it
peak escarp
Cassidy and the Deadlock Gang were busted by Overwatch in a sting operation
he was given the option to join Blackwatch or sit in jail
fringe thistle
by reyes no less
rotund ermine
sigma stronger than every hero
opal nexus
yeah i could see that
worthy rose
sigma stronger than every hero
Lore wise? I feel Symmetra is superior
worthy rose
Lore wise? I feel Symmetra is superior
Ball
rotund ermine
^ based
rotund ermine
Lore wise? I feel Symmetra is superior
if he really wanted he'd just crush her in her own center of gravity gg light lady
kind of a broken ability regardless
rotund ermine
his biggest weakness is his lack of actual control
worthy rose
Reaper is strong as hell too. But he would be stomped by Symm imo
rotund ermine
i would put reaper maybe 3rd cuz intangibility is flat busted
worthy rose
shes blue lantern
Well a really really low level Lantern
rotund ermine
yea tru
worthy rose
i would put reaper maybe 3rd cuz intangibility is flat busted
He's probrably 4th. Below primal Winston
Seeing as he had to run away from him at the end of the museum cinematic
rotund ermine
i'd just think reaper goes ghost mode and chills, its not as though he's been seen to have a limit doing it
rotund ermine
Seeing as he had to run away from him at the end of the museum cinematic
he did 1v1 him tho until he got cocky and got zapped by monke
worthy rose
Tbh Winston was kind of jobbing in Recall
In the Museum cinematic he tanked his gunfire fine even in base form
rotund ermine
i'd put Echo or doomfist as either 4th or 5th tbh
worthy rose
In Recall he was knocked out by a few shots from Reaper and a small pod hitting his head
worthy rose
i'd put Echo or doomfist as either 4th or 5th tbh
Doomfist is better imo
rotund ermine
yea but she can copy literally anything like a kakashi
worthy rose
Well I heard she can't do it in lore
rotund ermine
tbh idek how doom lost to winston even if it was primal, like was the gauntlet just not powered up
rotund ermine
Well I heard she can't do it in lore
then gg
worthy rose
tbh idek how doom lost to winston even if it was primal, like was the gauntlet j...
Because Winston is op
rotund ermine
doom was said to able to level buildings, winston just deus ex machina
worthy rose
Well Its only stated
rotund ermine
a gorilla still a gorilla at the end of the day hes just smart
rotund ermine
how enhanced
worthy rose
Well given he beat Doomfist. Probrably a ridicolous amount
rotund ermine
ig so
doom i think would on avg beat him more
i feel he got cocky like every other villain
worthy rose
Judging by his fight with Tracer and Genji. He didn't seem very cocky and looked like he was taking it seriously
rotund ermine
yea i just cant see primal winston with his own fist beating a dude entirely designed around having a lowtier infinity gauntlet
guess gorilla was just mega genetically powered up
idk
worthy rose
Well weather it makes sense or not Winston beat Doomfist. He's written to be a top tier in OW
peak escarp
the Doomfist gauntlet is nothing like the infinity gauntlet
rotund ermine
yea it just always feels weird to me
peak escarp
it doesn't really have any powers of its own
rotund ermine
the Doomfist gauntlet is nothing like the infinity gauntlet
idk why u took it so literal
rotund ermine
it produces shockwaves, regular shmegular stuff
rotund ermine
It can shoot bullets
i thought that's only his other hand not the gauntlet
rotund ermine
yea his other hand shoots
the knucklegun
gauntlet just produces crazy shockwaves
worthy rose
Its only power is enhancing strength it seems
Although Iirc it can also create shields?
fossil meteor
no cap
rotund ermine
his whole body is enhanced by cybernetics so its probably innate
he literally punched his way out of prison
still find it funny how he basically one shot genji
also wtf is zenyatta
like how exactly does he heal
peak escarp
with omnic energy
rotund ermine
So magic
peak escarp
sure
rotund ermine
really weird
rotund ermine
does he not have a literal god mode? what kinda robo tech allows him to just not flatline or put that protection on someone else
never been super deep into the lore cuz i felt like it's just not that detailed
"omnic energy" lol just sounds kinda goofy but i like the concept
peak escarp
god mode?
vocal marsh
His ult, someone’s voice like asks if it’s magic, and Zen being Zen responds cryptically
But I’d assume it’s probably some energy from the Iris or something
peak escarp
Mercy asks if his healing is magic, and refuses to believe it is
his ult is a representation of the transcendence of Aurora, the first omnic to gain sentience
probably not something he can actually do
her transcendence was the subject of the sculpture shown in Stone by Stone
desert oriole
Who would win in a fistfight: Reaper or Widow?
peak escarp
Reaper easily
opal nexus
ghost powers and super serum busted af
worthy rose
Wouldn't say easy. Widow seems more skilled but Reaper has better stats
peak escarp
Reaper is a supersoldier
lapis lodge
Hey what exactly happened to mei's friends
vocal marsh
Widow is a sniper, she’s not built for up close fights, also reapers on steroids so
But yeah they all died, the chambers malfunctioned because they weren’t built to last almost a decade
plush night
Where can I read the lore?
plush night
I’m pretty sure I watched all cinematics, it’s beautifully done
peak escarp
check the pins on this channel
there's a google doc linked there with all the lore sources
plush night
Thx!
desert yacht
Widow is a sniper, she’s not built for up close fights, also reapers on steroids...
I feel like she’d be trained heavily in close quarters combat for this reason
covering her weaknesses n stuff
cunning ledge
reaper could probably beat most of the characters in the game in a fistfight
rare sinew
there's a google doc linked there with all the lore sources
i wish someone revamped that list so its in a chronological order with the games events
twilit nacelleBOT
Animated Shorts:
Cinematic Trailer: http://bit.ly/1yhzaCC
Recall: http://bit.ly/1T1Aky8
Alive: http://bit.ly/1PSJV5x
Dragons: http://bit.ly/1WAZs3c
Hero: http://bit.ly/1ToCD1E
The Last Bastion: http://bit.ly/2b3TsNN
Infiltration: http://bit.ly/2emetBC
Rise and Shine: http://bit.ly/2xcMYoH
Honor and Glory: http://bit.ly/2A4FxRa
Shooting Star: https://bit.ly/2MCgtuP
Reunion: https://bit.ly/2AJhhHo
Zero Hour: https://bit.ly/2JGfNBP
The Wastelander: https://youtu.be/8-nXN9ZMl8o
Origin Trailers:
Tracer: http://bit.ly/2fDNQxI
Soldier 76: http://bit.ly/1FpWpDB
Ana: http://bit.ly/29zamjl
Sombra: http://bit.ly/2fMt3aJ
Orisa: http://bit.ly/2liKFy8
King's Row Uprising: http://bit.ly/2p2pukK
Doomfist: http://bit.ly/2tWoWzZ
Moira: http://bit.ly/2hF7GXZ
Brigitte: http://bit.ly/2GSto50
Hammond: https://bit.ly/2lKVlU9
Ashe: https://bit.ly/2F2SPor
Baptiste: https://bit.ly/2TeM1Kq
Sigma: https://bit.ly/2JJTVWE
Echo: https://bit.ly/2IYIwRq
Sojourn: https://bit.ly/3KH4lmY
Junker Queen: https://youtu.be/xxtB_MJrycs
Other Videos:
A Moment in Crime - Junkers: http://bit.ly/2fMsVYB
Are You With Us?: http://bit.ly/2fle4Uw
We Are Overwatch: http://bit.ly/1Pd9XmJ
The Plan: http://bit.ly/2uZiitC
Retribution: https://bit.ly/2EI9RCZ
Roadtrip: https://bit.ly/2RLk08M
Storm Rising: https://bit.ly/2VOkcXh
limpid agate
We have to guess for a lot of them
We know that The Last Bastion was ~20 years ago, Wastelander was ~10 years ago, and Zero Hour is the most recent event
The rest is messy
Recall should be the same time as Alive, Dragons, and Hero.
Reunion, Rise and Shine and Honor and Glory are explictly after Recall
Infiltration and Shooting Star happen at some point that year
rare sinew
i guess its possible but the list would be extremely vague and probably incorrect in some places
still i dont think it would go to waste if someone took their time and made one
would be very useful for new people, instead of having to align the events yourself or with help of other people
limpid agate
People have tried making timelines in the past, myself included
You end up just getting rows of character timelines
And ranges
Doctor Six made one too.
A visual one
Its probably in the history here somewhere
Mine are usually either text based or on excel
But I stopped doing those a few years back because it just got too convoluted and messy.
Even just Junkrats timeline is a disaster
The Wastelander (he should be ~15 in that short) > Wasted Land (a decade later) > The Plan (first part) > Going Legit (possibly) > International Crime Spree = Sombra ARG > Going Legit (possibly) > The Plan (second part) > Going Legit (possibly)
Junkrat and Roadhog were in Mexico in November
And then were in Australia in December
For Christmas
But the rest of their crime spree is anyone's guess
They were gone for a year total
rare sinew
oh wow
would be pretty cool if blizzard released official timelines for each character
but thats too much probably
maybe hero gallery in ow2 could get like a "history" button for individual characters where they could put some info
not necessarily a full timeline but the most important events
limpid agate
Even the timelines they gave were vague
Here's Michael Chu's timeline of the shorts and comics from 2016
Which is not linear
Its just shit plopped together
And then the Overwatch 2 website, which they closed, had a different mess of a timeline
rare sinew
And then the Overwatch 2 website, which they closed, had a different mess of a t...
i literally just wanted to mention that
limpid agate
Theirs was:
Omnic Crisis: Honor and Glory
Overwatch Established: The Last Bastion
The Fall of Overwatch: Retribution > Uprising > Legacy > Storm Rising > Doomfist Origins (this order knew already)
Recall: Recall > Are You With Us? > Alive > Rise and Shine > Dragons > Old Soldiers > Cinematic Trailer
Overwatch 2: Zero Hour
rare sinew
barely enough to get new players into the lore but its something
peak escarp
there's supposed to be a timeline in the Overwatch: Declassified book that's coming out
but that got delayed until next year
sharp trench
found out why the humans got their asses beat earlier into the war
no artillery????
digital forum
In doom's trailer, can he actually punch through solid concrete with just his regular hand since thats freaking hardcore or was that just a cybernetic arm.
limpid agate
Cybernetic arm
vocal marsh
Yeah it’s cybernetic
rotund ermine
most of his body is cybernetic anyways
took bullets from tracer and it bounced off around him like nothing
peak escarp
he has some kind of personal shield
fringe thistle
probably like an invisible winton bubble
or maybe it was just the short being anime and exaggerating feats
peak escarp
I was thinking more of his passive, but that works too
fringe thistle
his passive might actually be canon tbh
like thats a great way to justify him facetanking pulse pistol bullets
valid jolt
Why does sombra has a voiceline let's go back to melionoche
Something like Pol vamos da melianoche idk
valid jolt
Why does she have it
peak escarp
it's an alternate voice line for her ultimate with the Demon Hunter skin
valid jolt
Hmmmm so it is a ultimate voice line but you can use it normally, is this the only voice line like that? Why?
peak escarp
idk
valid jolt
Dammm now i want it's high tide as a voice line i can normally use
valid jolt
Oh
peak escarp
La Medianoche is referring to the blackout that happened in Dorado during the omnic crisis, when the power grid was knocked out
peak escarp
idk
valid jolt
Jdjfida
peak escarp
it's just a voice line
valid jolt
When lore warlord say idk ;_;
i need loreee
peak escarp
I told you
valid jolt
Is sombra backstory really secret?
peak escarp
you know that statue near the first checkpoint on Dorado?
valid jolt
Like short film?
valid jolt
you know that statue near the first checkpoint on Dorado?
Yes
peak escarp
the inscriptions on it talk about the blackout
karmic turret
'Hasta la noche más oscura cede ante el amanecer' (Rough Translation: 'Even the darkest night gives way before dawn')
'Que renazcan en la luz' (Rough Translation: 'May they be reborn in the light')
'Y que jamás sean olvidados' (Rough Translation: 'And never be forgotten')```is there more info on the blackout
valid jolt
Did sombra cause blackout or she has trauma but then why she want to go back to it
Aaaaaaa
peak escarp
this blackout was during the omnic crisis, 30 years ago
valid jolt
So kid sombra got orphan because of it?
peak escarp
this article is the only other place La Medianoche is mentioned
"This is a great moment for Mexico. As president, it was my dream to not only repair the infrastructure destroyed during La Medianoche, but to provide this country with infrastructure that will make it the envy of the world. Today, that dream is a reality, as I and LumériCo, have made this possible," notes Portero.
valid jolt
Hmmm but why does she want to go back, she also says it like she mean it, do not know which emotion is attached to it
peak escarp
it's just a voice line
tall sleet
it probably doesnt have much significance
valid jolt
Is it like let's go back to where it all started or something
peak escarp
she doesn't actually want to go back to that
tall sleet
considering omnic crisis was like 30 yrs ago and sombra is 30 herself, she prob wouldnt have actively witnessed this event
valid jolt
But short film show she was orphan from omnic crisis like many others
tall sleet
good point bestie
peak escarp
yes
tall sleet
ign i said anyth
valid jolt
Is her age real
peak escarp
like many wars, the omnic crisis lasted several years
tall sleet
thats what #google said
peak escarp
meaning Sombra was born during the crisis and lost her parents at a young age
tall sleet
methinks its just a cool sounding voice line
valid jolt
Sombra is not human is she? She is like some digital being that can be real
tall sleet
😮
peak escarp
she is human
valid jolt
She became code right?
valid jolt
Why are there not others like sombra, the tech she has would make invisible teleporting Reinhart a very possible thing yes?
Or she erased everything about this tech she has
Or like she stole stuff from vishkar and modified the teleporter, what about invisibility then, real eyes don't see her
peak escarp
her translocator is implied to be modified from the chronal accelerator
which she stole the designs of from Winston
valid jolt
Ohw
tall sleet
I'm sure other people could be made to have the same tech sombra has but they wouldnt use it effectively as her
valid jolt
So sombra made herself have half chronal dissociation
peak escarp
kinda
valid jolt
So sombra stole from Winston and tracer, and she is keeping her tech version secret and Winston is keeping his version secret.
peak escarp
Sombra: What can I say? A girl just has to have the latest tech.``` Tracer: Won't be a problem if you just disappear forever.```So she is like tracer cool
But tracer has to be in a spot in the past to recall, sombra can just recall anywhere how that work, like she in Japan messing with genji and another second she is on a plane over Europe or something.
peak escarp
Sombra can only recall to wherever she places her translocator
not across continents
valid jolt
So she place translocater in Asia, then go on a vacation to usa, she don't have money to come back so she translocate
peak escarp
I don't think it works like that
molten shore
When sombra hacks soilder he can't run is this a game thing or does it show she's good at manipulating or can he just not run
peak escarp
there's probably a range limit
opal nexus
When sombra hacks soilder he can't run is this a game thing or does it show she'...
gameplay thing
molten shore
Makes sense
valid jolt
Man anything that messes with time is so complicated
Tracer is understandable, but sombra how what
peak escarp
wait wheres the lore about sombra stealing winstons tech for her translocator an...
just in those voice lines
opal nexus
ohh
all i remember was tracer's "no one likes a thief" line
when she eliminates sombra
valid jolt
Me: guys i am in Japan with my vpn
Sombra: hacks herself to Japan
Me: 
peak escarp
that's not how it works
valid jolt
What if
There is cyborg ninja, woman with control of her own time and space, a guy who can become Black smoke, hamster smarter than most human, revive someone with magical technology. so there must at the very least be a cyborg hacker with control of time and space. Meet sombra, who is sombra you will never know.
Boop!
worthy rose
There is cyborg ninja, woman with control of her own time and space, a guy who c...
If there was actually a cyborg with control over space and time I doubt he would be beatable.....
worthy rose
Me: guys i am in Japan with my vpn
Sombra: hacks herself to Japan
Me: <:MoiraFac...
I doubt Sombra would really care enough to hack you
valid jolt
Is sombra beatable? If you don't know where she boops away
tall sleet
Sombra OP
peak escarp
Zarya beat her
molten shore
Do we know what lucios dad looks like
peak escarp
Do we know what lucios dad looks like
no
valid jolt
Zarya beat her
When
valid jolt
Ohw
molten shore
Are there only digital comics or do they make physical ones
peak escarp
there's a hardcover collection you can buy
valid jolt
She found the translocater, the only way to beat her
peak escarp
the translocator can't be very far away, so it's easy to find
valid jolt
Why not, maybe she only has one so she does not go that far away from it.
Hmmmm now i don't like how it stays lit up in game
worthy rose
Is sombra beatable? If you don't know where she boops away
She is. Doomfist, Symmetra, Reaper, etc would beat her
molten shore
there's a hardcover collection you can buy
Is there a comic of lucio and d.va meeting
peak escarp
they haven't met yet
clear kestrel
I like that Blizz have made it so Sombra isn't just
completely untouchable or infallible at all times
I wonder if she's aware that pretty much everyone she works with at Talon is onto her bullshit
cyan epoch
its high noon
trim cradle
still find it funny how he basically one shot genji
ayo where can i see this?
peak escarp
ayo where can i see this?
the Doomfist origin trailer
trim cradle
oh sick thank you
so has doom fist ever been defeated? - and how?
i’m new to lore lol and it just interests me haha, judging by the trailers he seems pretty OP too
peak escarp
he was defeated by Winston in that same trailer
he got arrested and put in jail for 6 years
trim cradle
ah ok
and what happened to tracer after that, because she ended up disappearing because doom ripped that thing off of her
peak escarp
Winston had to make a new chronal accelerator (or he had a backup)
trim cradle
ah ok ok
worthy rose
Winston had to make a new chronal accelerator (or he had a backup)
u know what i find crazy..
if winston can make a chronal accelerator for tracer, wouldn’t he be able to create something for reaper too ?.
to help stabilize his rapidly dying cells ?, so that reaper could get all the benefits of his situation
but also negate all the negatives ?.
i guess in a way the negatives are useful because the degenerating of cells is what causes him to be able to fade into dust.. but still.
I think it would be cool if winston captured reaper and found a way to stabilize his cells so he literally couldn’t escape.
worthy rose
i’m new to lore lol and it just interests me haha, judging by the trailers he se...
Symmetra and Reaper are more OP
junior gale
idk if winston would be able to do that just because of how powerful moiras modifications must be. the resources she has access to in combination with how long reaper has been in an unstable state leads me to think that he might be incurable
peak escarp
she can't
Reyes turned to Moira in the first place because he needed help with a genetic issue - something Dr. Ziegler couldn't help him with
sharp trench
they’d probably have to put their minds together, winston and mercy
trim cradle
Symmetra and Reaper are more OP
how come?
vocal marsh
they’d probably have to put their minds together, winston and mercy
Nah Torbs got this
sharp trench
torbjorn specializes in armament no?
opal nexus
he builds funny shootin and tootin’ guns yes
limpid agate
There isn't anything to "cure"
It's been in his genetic code for multiple decades
That's like trying to cure that you're blonde
worthy rose
how come?
Symm could just trap Doom in a hard light box
Although maybe Doom could break free who knows
rare sinew
That's like trying to cure that you're blonde
something that's very much worth being cured /j
tall sleet
what was the genetic issue he had that he went to moira for?
peak escarp
we don't know
sharp trench
probably something related with the supersoldier serum
vocal marsh
Then Soldier would have it too
vocal marsh
The thing that made reaper reaper is after he fought soldier
Idk the circumstances of the first treatment with Moira
peak escarp
he had wraith powers before that
turbid whale
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the issue that he couldn't take a full physical form? Only some parts of his body took physical form and that's what she was treating
Not entirely sure about that but I'm pretty sure that that was the problem?
peak escarp
no
she was the one who gave him his wraith powers
he recruited her before he had any wraith powers
vocal marsh
He gave him wraith powers that he could control
After his fight with soldier she saved him but made it more uncontrollable
frail snow
Anyone think Junkerking will join Talon to get lots of money for himself and revenge on Junkertown?
broken sun
like how exactly does he heal
i recently realized zenyattas healing and discord orb look similar to moira's orbs
neon aurora
Anyone think Junkerking will join Talon to get lots of money for himself and rev...
Why would Talon care about Junkertown?
The Junkerqueen doesn't even come up on Sombra's files, it's that irrelevant.
iron plume
Yeah
It'd be in the King's interest (if he's even alive/in a position to join), but Talon would get nothing out of the arrangement
worn solar
They should add a voice line for genji where he says
“While you were out partying, I studied the blade… and also went out partying!”
Since that’s how he spent most of his childhood
trim cradle
how do i just find lore for specific characters?
trim cradle
Thanks
half wedge
Would Talon have lawyers?
half wedge
Overwatch definitely would
But I’m guessing Talon would have them to basically defend their agents who get captured
limpid agate
Yes
iron plume
9’s fine
limpid agate
Oh Zepp now cleans Zepp messages
Instead of skipping them
Useful
Anyways, gas vehicles do still exist, or at least vehicles that burn some kind of combustible fuel
Junkertown is the best example to show that they exist
urban iris
Lol yeah
limpid agate
So the tech existed >22 years ago
urban iris
maybe they ment like electric vehicles ://
Hollywood cars don't have tires right? There's floating cars by first choke I believe....
That's not the same thing i realize 😅
woeful wren
Genji most powerful character in lore
I have evidence to back up this statement
He can teleport
There is no way he used a smoke bomb for one thing you never see him throw it he just does a badass pose, another thing is the fact he is gone that quickly
His suit may have teleportation mechanics
When the team was fighting this giant robot, Genji sliced its hand off for Tracer
He could’ve easily decided to go for its head but my guy is such a team player he let Tracer have this one
Also he got that high up in the air, not a lot of characters can move the way he can in the lore. He is very fast and extremely precise with all his movements
He is also very strong and stealthy, he in Blackwatch which is like the spec ops in Overwatch lore, team of very skilled members who are put on missions where they need to be sneaky. Genji did his job and being put on this team shows he is one of the best assets they have
limpid agate
He can teleport
That was a smoke bomb, he can't teleport
He's a ninja
That's a trademark of Ninjas
Batman's done faster escapes than that
woeful wren
Idk I agree with the smoke bomb part but he was gone far quicker
Batman also just waits for people to talk and be distracted and then disappears this was from Hanzo pov and was staring directly at him when he disappeared super quickly
limpid agate
You've seen how fast Genji is with his cybernetic agility. He can't teleport
That's not a feat of teleportation
The only heroes who can teleport are Tracer, Sombra, and Symmetra.
woeful wren
Also him not teleporting doesn’t destroy my claim that he is the most powerful person in the lore. He still needless to say disappeared quick
clear hearth