#stadium-discussion
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She can win 1s against like any tank
you use sustain items so you dont die before you can do anything, you dont try to out sustain damage
With overheating
even in stadium you cant possibly outsustain damage
Overhealth nade
Build weapon power and just three tap headshot anyone
The aoe sleep
but having an extra second to fight back might be the diff between getting rolled and getting value
I mean you can, but you cant build anything else
case in point
You can be a brig with like 1200 health who heals passively like 25% every couple of seconds
i think most builds need at least some sustain
The soldier build before they nerfed it today could easily out sustain damage
Stadium is just whoever has more burst early on and sustain late
But besides that youre a normal brig
Like 9/10 times
What was it?
If ur into ana wuysng
Broken hence the nerfs
Just ability power spam?
No infinite overhealth
Cuz the enemy tank rolls
With the field items
Essentially
Id rather have brig be thanos
I didn't notice at least
To lazy to explain it but basically rockets grant overhealth double rocket when used with flux you gain overhealth it resets the decay of overhealth
Procs Frontline twice
Basically late game your unlikable
Lmaoo that does sound nice
Complete nonsense build
I love shit like that
Easily a top 5
Cass 1 shotting with his flashbang somehow
Even at like 400+ health targets
Yeah
Hardly matters when it’s infinite
The thing that removes overhealth
30%
Yeah
Who cars you get infinite overhealth
Which isnt enough for a build like that ofc
Does the overhealth removal count as damage
Having 30 less of it isn’t really of any importance
Phar doesn't even need to make a build in stadium
Or just a function of the item, and wouldn't actually give income
I see alot more ap builds this season
No income
Maybe cause its easier to play
Ive been seeing way more just weapon power
I see like 0 zarya players
She feels way harder to build well
Less snowballing
I only see wp from like masters+ players
Half the heroes who focus on AP get going faster
9/10 ashe players are on ap
They get higher percents than weapon power items
Soldiers rocket build is much faster to become strong then his gun ones
So it makes sense
Yeah ap is just way more burst generally
Instead of the deal 400 dmg headsbbot
Only early game
U can switch to wp late game
The non xim ones at least lol
Thats cause unless you hit constant headshots ashes wp builds suck compared to ashe burn build
Way easier to get better value when you can go ap if the character allows it
True but most people pick powers focused on those abilities cause they get strong faster
Hazard players stadium are like
Robots
They dont even know how the hero works half the time
Unless it's soldier cause his AP builds are both harder then his wp build lol
And will be top 50 90 hours
That's cause haz has like 50 ways to use ability power and just 1 mediocre primary
Cept soldier can hybrid fairly easily without much drawback
They see spike guard heals 3% or whatever and go oh yeah ill block all game
I see alot of hybrid from real players
Yea
But not on soldier
Hybrids only good on like
3 heroes imo
Thats my experience with hazards at least
Maybe 4
Haz is NOT one of the hybrid able characters
I feel like most supports wanna be hybrid
Cause you can get like 60wp and still have 65% ap with creator
Well a chunk
Ram and ram both hybrid
I've played like 2 supports and both wanted AP focus both times I plYed
Brig generally just becomes really busted with AP scaling because she's gotnso much that scales with AP
And Juno early on when she was literally just "rocket rocket rocket" all game 24hrs straight
Modes a joke honestly they should retire it won’t have a player base anyways in a few more seasons
I feel like hybrid works well on mercy zen ana [sometimes] and like juno
Healer queue times are like 20 minutes no one wants to tank
Most weapon healers still want AP
Tbf its cuz healers are like broken
And scale the most
Which is tragic cause stadium basically only game mode where tanking is fun
And easiest
Like even if ur team is getting rolled
Off dmg and heals alone ur at 20k on zen
In the 2nd round
Half the time
Or wuyang being able to one shot in yhe first round
Etc
Just cause of queue times and length of games ive found its way more fun lately to just do QP, scale fast, and do some dogshit off meta build
Yeah you can be a top 500 tank in stadium by merely existing and queing
Mei in qp
So that’s kinda neat
Yep
I've won like 27/30 games
Only games I lost were with dcs
is reaper finally not triple f tier buns
Incredibly hard to lose if you have hands on tank
With its sniper build he’s good
I feel like hes never been that bad
Only time ive seen reaper get hard value
Is into like zen rein vendetta
Or hes champion 5
💀
Problem with the tank role is so many items just counter tanks like specifically
^
So if there team isn’t completely stupid they can force you into a bad game especially if you have discord
Infinite jumping rat
Aoe sleep that applies anti
Yeah that’s fun
Or wuyang dash
I feel like if you're ok at actually aiming and dont just 5v1 like every top 500 dps somehow, he does pretty well into a lot
so is it any damage from dire triggers will cause the dot? even if u only do 1 damage? kinda like jq royal bullets
U can 1v5 on reaper
Thoo
Get reset power and it spirals alot
Yeah though I don’t see how you’d only do 1 point
Imagine explaining this to someone in 2020
It's more cuz u need actual map knowledge and positions
Vs the average ashe ap
Throwing dynamite and bobbing points
It’s annoying I only fought 1 today and he didn’t take the power to reset wraith on kills
Well sometimes yeah lol I mean the reaper who seems to play like a bronze rein but think they're able to 1v5 because they're top 500 in stadium
Late game stadium makes me feel like im on ow1 rein
Which means nothing ofx
btw is stadiumbuilds still used to find builds
We won but the reaper did well til round 7
its been a while since i was on the stadium grind
Dude wasnt confident
Alot of interactions are odd
Didn’t like his build though
Least my games
Cuz guys will pop cooldowns on nothing
And just not die
💔
1.5s I look main i lose my health
He still finished with most dps in the lobby
i mean honestly i rarely take it ever since they nerfed from 100% to 50% for wraith
You can’t cleanse it with a health pack either
The heal in wraith is still ridiculous
Oh I havent done dps in a while thats rough
where do i find builds otherwise
Make 1
Like fire but it can save you maybe
Stadiumbuilds is made by like plat players
i am lazy i just like doing broken stuff and pressing buttons
Majority
Cybervemon also applies on dire trigger and mark of kit
that is to be expected
If you cant make a build on your own just min max cheapest cost to highest possible %s and pray
Lock in ram
naturally, i still play core game
Orisa overheat build hold button and just kinda look at enemy
Orisa players dont know left from right
theres some nice stuff on there and can reveal to u some power and item interactions but you still need to rely heavily on character specific counterbuilding in ur game
add mauga next amen
Yeahhh
Its a shame cause she's actually kinda fun
so u just gotta.. know
Ever since nerf n1 can actually play her
Since her 2nd round power creep got thanos snapped
The amount of people I see playing orisa overheat build and they get the crit refund heat item is insane
Like buddy youre just nerfing yourself unless you fully believe youre ass and cant hit crits

It feels pretty insane
Only unique orisa build
what does jav spin build look like
Uhhhh
More and less than expected ngl
Paure its from 1 guy too
😭
I haven't seen a single hybrid haz or wp haz
Which is mainly played on eu from what ive seen
Tf is wp hazard doing
losing
Insane against hard poke
Doesn't he have like one weapon power
Only haz power I'd say it like "bad"
Is the 20 dmg bone spur
And it does scale well
yo is the dva matrix power bugged that shit is extended for way longer than 25%
thats like 5 seconds marix
Or maybe its size?
Man stadium is so fun i wish playerbase cared
It has so much potential
I cant think of any other FPS that does it quite like stadium for me
Just less balanced and with gameplay i actually understand
I cant grasp build Moira in league
Stadium on top
thats a w fo league tbh
Moria
Nah Moira needing to aim and being basically dps is sick
Huge L on leagues part not having that frfr
Its like 30% lifesteal I think? Like holy shit
I see nothing wrong with this
Ive been running this nothing but attack speed ram build
isnt freya gonna destroy now
Shes always been pretty solid I feel like, what's changed?
they buffed her in the midseason patch
and its big buffs
She basically always been best dps tho
Haven't seen them, what are they?
So does it really change anything
I dont know them off the top of my head but I know that her cooldowns got changed
A good freja is so hard to deal with
They nerfed all her powers
And I only run into them when im just wanting to have fun
Sustain is alot worse but she's still broken
i never really feel affected by orisa unless theyre playing that spear build that yanks you violently
but i guess its also cause i dont play tank so i dont feel the power of her WP gun
Ye
What's it now?
Jesus christ
Over 50% cut is insane
But also being able to basically glass cannon the whole time and get all the sustain you need from 1 thing is wild
They hit like fucking hanzo
Deal 20% more dmg to dps role
I wish there was more of that
I think? Vendetta has something similar?
Maybe
Shes so fun in stadium but she's not really good
She feels fine
I think its more
Cuz u need to go tank
Vs actually killing like genji
She sorta feels squishy always?
Ive tried them but they just feel like im keeping myself alive but not actually bringing anything to team
Probably a skill issue tho
Ive only done ok going attack speed wp and praying
Yea nah
She's ap or tank
And attack speed
Wp barely does anything
Cause u can crit
Anyway
I meant like 20% attack speed and the 10% crit one
And like aftermarket pin and shit
Mostly attack speed by end
But i figured the extra crit was worth
Spider something I think?
I dont even take that crit item ngl
I feel like the 10% more to power below 30% is more helpful
I only get the crit item if I need more wp
Thats fair
I figured 1/3 of my hits getting 10% more was better than the hypothetical 10% more only on low health enemies
Genji too somewhat
Real
Tbf if youre going raw wp there's always like 2 more you'd get first
Its pretty good on solider
Its not the best item anyways
Injection is so good
Is that the one that boosts everything at full ult?
Yes
The names are so hard to keep up with tbh
50 health 10% every stat
Gloom gauntlet phantasmic and after market pin are only 3 I can remember
Ive actually been using this on orisa just cause I never use her ult right lmal
So its better most of the time to just not even bother and keep the stats
Champ kit
Luminous fusion overdrive
Nano cola
Straight gibberish
Talking enchantment table rn
I do remember that one ngl
But more the place of it not the name
And the icon
I saw cat got in the mode, looked at her powers
Freja nerded to make less money, lucio still dead in the bronx, tracer still doomed to play lame ass weapon power or throw
I think im good man i think im alright
pois, adding more characters would be good. I prefer Stadium
Its just that some i feel should just STAY in regular overwatch and just never come over
To me cat was one of those characters. Kinda like how widow is
Tracer is hard. If the Tank can't hold space, and the support can't keep the tank alive. Tracer is left empty, she has like, maybe 190 hp
Stadium is a different beast. But it is difficult because it requires experimenting with builds and understanding the mechanics of the character you play
Also, DPS is important, but you need survival stuff, life steals, and HP buff in the mid to late game, or you get melted like butter in the sun
I just wanna play ap tracer
But it has 2 powers man and nothing else just give it a little juice
Like one new pulse bomb centric power to bring it all together
I love Tracer, but do not trust my team, so I play safer heroes with better survivability
i just now could test the dire triggers power
why does it do so much damage?? it says 30 and im ticking for like 120
okay im just gonna guess its one dot per shotgun and each shotgun can also get a dot from body and head.. which is disgusting
then stay
until they make changes you like
no harm no foul
better than making yourself miserable just to prove a point
Lucio playable thoo
Just go sustainslop
Or quad boop
Cat is in stadium?
She literally did get nerfs
Yeah added at mid season
Shes vile ngl
Its fun though
Anyone has some solid stadium builds for hit scans
Want to experiment with not playing support every day for once
I pray of you not to use the same meta slop every single game
bro i run the same ana build ever since i started stadium 😭
I tried ashe burn like twice
And ramattra once
si idk
Might be sojourn i like her fast pace
Or junkrat
Can they add my sweet sweet bastion to stadium soon
Ah okay I understand
I wish they'd change them to actually something decent. Personally I think standard overwatch is cringe asf
Link stadium io
And say not use meta slop
Just dont filter by most popular lol
Why did blizzard add cat to stadium out of all champs?
Why is stadium in 3rd person perspective 😭
does the closer item reveal your teammates when you have the pinpoint precision?
no
The main problem is the system isn’t designed like standard comp for determining ranking if it was it would somewhat useful for determining actual skill levels but the problem is it’s designed like getting a trophy in bowling for participating
You can swap it to 1st
Though I’d learn 3rd it’s just objectively better since swapping
Being able to peek corners is chefs kiss
I wouldn’t necessarily say unfun. While yeah I do think it’s ability to crit is a bug and JPC just gets fucking murdered by it, Backstabber can still be healed off and cleansed, focusing on it can still make Reaper fall off up close, and armor still is a pain in the ass for him since Dire Triggers and Backstabber both get their damage cut in half by it.
Stadium is pmo, I’ll be actively playing, waving to people and they’ll say hi back in real time and I still get removed for inactivity????
Anyone know where the key bind is for gadget
Idk i havent had a problem. Might be interact
i genuinely had to face the gestapo earlier
everyone was flying
cat, mercy, pharah and ashe and sig getting carried
I haven’t played stadium yet, how bad is cat to play against?
if you dont have hitscan on your team its actually over
Cat is about as aids as youd expect
You basically just build pre emergency nerf cat and win
Until something with good anti-air shows up cause once that happens Cat is not gonna have fun.
Definitely depends on the skill of the lobby. As Vendetta, overhead slamming Juno, Pharah, Mercy, Cat is definitely manageable.
Annoying for sure, but can be done
Sniper junkrat
did they just remove dire trigger from reaper?
had it one match, next match it's not even there for a power
yea same the power is gone for me
That's what I was gonna ask
It had the old name backstabber maybe they removed it because of that?
I played only one game with it then it disappeared the next 💔
Lowkey such a fun power too
Yes
yeah it's def OP though, they are prob fixing it
loool
How good is cat at stadium I assume it would be aids
Its aids
Just run ability power and turn her into pre emergency nerf cat
dire trigger did more damage than intended
1 day where reaper isn't dogshit tier was the most we're gonna get
Freya is missing a power too
yeah they removed Lille faelde
Yeah cooked
the one that enables her AP builds
I love being forced to run meta slop freja
it was meta lol
it was over performing like crazy yesterday
Ap freja is just alright
before they disabled it
Oh was it idk
yeah
I dont play stadium a tooon
nothing, they changed some stuff cause cat was added and I think it bugged some stuff out
it was doing more than 50% of my total damage
Ah it probably did full dmg or smthing
I don't think so
Fucked up and evil bug
was definitely less than bola
Either way
yeah
it was ridiculously strong
hope they fix it properly cause I much prefer that style of Freja to wp slop
feels more like a skill check of can you hit your take aims rather than I spam m1
Yeah wp freja is slop
don't know how they can fix it tbh
Just
Nerf the numbers on the powers?
Its like 3 powers that make it braindead op
Just make them all slightly worse
And the overall build will become 20x orse
powers should feel like a power spike though
and if they make them underwhelming then it removes the feeling of satisfaction
which 3 powers is it again, the spread shot, the auto aim and I forget the last
66% lol
Ilowkey forgot the other one
basically 2 full shots of damage
yeah
i was just about to ask that
its not in the patch notes but they took freja's power away
i love it, but... its definetly broken
maybe its just an error?
i think balance
damn
i hope they dont kill this
same
dont they remove powers to patch them later
theyve removed it before, but they could have let us know this time. it was there yesterday but i just hopped into a comp game and it was just gone
it deffinetly could use a nerf. i still like it for countering dive characters taking out my support, the slow is amazing
thats what im saying! no notice in the patch notes
it was definitely doing more damage since the update so i understand if they took it out to work on it but some communication would be nice
there are enough heros to counter that bola
yeee, not to mention the kitsuni charm you can buy, still... you can get it back fast if you get the item that lowers the cooldown on updraft with take aim shots connecting, it takes like 5 seconds to get it back
dont get me wrong. i love it. id probably still get it even if it did not do a ton of damage and just slowed them.
i think it was bugged and doing the same damage as the ult. they just buffed her in the patch so i doubt they took it out to nerf her. they just need to take it back down to the damage it was doing pre patch
nah cause pre patch it would take 1 mini bolo and 1 maybe 2 explosive bolts to kill, yesterday it was 1 shotting everybody with just the mini bolo and so cooked powers
Got removed like
Within the last couple hours
It was a hotfix
Same with reaper new perk
if its still possible to kill people or get value of it idc the nerf
but no reason to remove it for a few days lol
it wasnt removed in the initial patch, they removed it earlier today
reaper new perk was able to Crit and I don't think that was intended
it was applying on each hit of fire triggers and then doing double if it crit
somebody @ me when the freja power is back so i can play again
Its the longest queue in stadium anyway
Its also off peak hours
And jetpack cat just dropped
true
exactly as predicted
Me and my buddy just pioneered a new jetpack cat stadium combo that is totally broken and I'm sad because I know I cant brag about it or Blizzard will fix it
in the practice range it was better to hit both body and head (idk if it was only in the range or not)
but now that they removed it he sucks again so nobody is going to play him
yeah you're correct
I was wrong about it before, just thought it was critting because you had to hit a head shot for it to work
they removed it while my buddy was mid match, they made him only have 1 perk when he was like round 3 and gave it as an item (he couldnt pick a 2nd perk)
do you know anything about why they might've disabled the Lille Fælde perk on Freja?
same reason pretty much, people probably complained that it was doing too much damage too often
It was bugged to be doing the full dmg
So it was doing like 400 dmg round2
And 1 shotting everybkdy
wait really? oh wow
wild
I think her auto aim one is also bugged right now, I took it round one and it wasn't always shooting the 3 auto aim bolts
Isnt it only if you actually land the take aim tbf
it is
Unless you mean the
2 extra spread bolts
In which case they made the spread absurdly large
no I meant the take aim into 3 aimbot shots that do reduced damage
Ah fair
I really don't understand the application of this power tbh
like is it just to pressure shields and tanks better?
Yeah its just to
1 shot people who dare approach you
It makes killing people like brig way faster
yeah that's fair
I see people mention it in every one of the machine gun builds but it seems circumstantial
Yeah its not suuper needed
But it is really strong for playing keep away
Since its just more dmg
but it's not even always more damage
Idk how this game mode works
Overwatch turned into smite/league of legends without minions/towers pretty much
I haven’t played those games
Is wuyang still good in stadium wanna try him out people have been glazing him alot
Wanna try him and brig
No
Who are good supports rn
depends on dps but mercy/kiri/juno
haven't played zen after patch
but if you're trying to hard carry 1v9 prob pick zen/juno
Brig wuyang zen lucio
hazard into orisa is tuff
most you can do is make your build against her squishies and dps poking them
yeah we just ragebaiting the meta supports are brig wuyang zen and ana
Have yet to lose to a wuyang or brig in 15 games
because you are playing against farmers
?
you are playing against bad players
open your dm
This guys been playing against WP Brig or something
I've seen a handful of great Wuyangs but most underperform
Zen took a MASSIVE hit this patch imo.
Yeah zen is no longer as good as the other 3
He used to be my favorite hero, but now I don't use him anymore. I prefer kriko and wuyang.
he doesn't have as much self sustain but you can still burst people down with his weapon power oriented builds quite well
in round 2 when you have the permanent harmony orb on self as well as the 20% life steal on discorded targets it is actually kinda a lot of healing when you think about it
at least the self healing on works when they're discorded
just looking at the math
50*1.3*0.2 = 13 healing with no weapon power
*2 on a head shot means 26 healing per Crit
but in round 2 most of the time I think 30% weapon power is pretty achievable so you can get
50*1.3*1.3*0.2=16.9 or 33.8 on a Crit
really does add up
not counting any other forms of lifesteal from items
and not factoring in the DPS passive that reduces healing by 30%
anyone know if lille faelde is back yet?
I can hop on and check
@exotic pilot You don't know The Meta lil bro
Does cybervenom healing reduction do anything now that all heroes deal healing reduction?
Anyone else think Ashe bombs are a lil over powered in stadium 🥲
it should stack
not sure if it's additive or if it's multiplicative
Healing reduction passive isnt in stadium lmao
Who else is eating chipotle rn😂
Sikkkke I’ve never had chipotle
Did yall believe me 😂😂😂
I’m tight btw
Fuck u talkin about brah start talkin about The Meta
theres a junkrat tech with cat that lets you carpet bomb the whole fucking lobby
What
Spill
naaahh im gatekeeping ts so that no one can play it
its just one of his powers that makes him drop mini bombs
Does no one miss me
Junkrat can do that anyways
on the bright side it allows you to mainly mine offensively
True true
and you get the benefit of the purple item that buff mine if its blown mid air
many things it could stand for
Yaoi
never knew but the after game scoreboard shows you the lobby range in regular comp ranks
Kinda neat so my last game was Bronze 5 through Masters 3
Yeah I didn’t know it showed the lobby in regular ranks though you can’t see it in history
But if you check the scoreboard after it shows the lobby rank using standard comp ranks
its always been a thing, when ive seen it pop up its usually a bug but the match range is like that every single time
you're welcome
well i decided to play 1 dps game, first of the season. the matchmaker gave me a silver tank,, 2 gold supports and a new account (while I am master/GM). Did not matter how many I killed, 1, 3, 4 every fight, my team couldnt do basic keypresses. 0-4
and then they called me bad
ok. guess blizzard doesnt want me to ever play stadium again heh
literal joke
Zen ult needs a buff like why am I dying with a zen ulted right next to me 😂
Whatever is hitting you is bursting more the. It heals per second lots goes through it in stadium
Maybe she just chucks mines
Ap widow mines everywhere
Trueeee it was uhhh, ram
does unstoppable work against tether? seems to be the only way u can avoid cats ult on rein
rein got nerfed twice this patch 💔
ig you could go flying charge, but the cost and lifesteal aint really worth it
JPC being added killed my favourite Ana build I have to play against her every fucking game😭
Someone shoot this FUCKING CAT
FUCK
These cats are annoying
But what makes my build even more useless
IS WHEN MY WINSTON IS A FUCKING MORON
😭
I don't understand
I told him I could literally dive the enemy supports
And he still jumps in without me
Despite me having 2 nades and a mini nano and being able to shred Juno in 3 seconds
And he always dies
didnt think you could make cat more annoying 😭
Which build
Because he's not building attack speed and 1v5ing the team like every other zen
Attack speed zen and attack speed junkrat are toxic asf lmao
It was probably what the other person said , I was already low before the ult and got smacked by burst
Oh for sure attack speed + both discord powers.. diabolical
Yeah nah I was joking lol
I've been exploring an attack speed Freya, kinda like it
Idk what the powers are called but I can tell you when I get on the game
Why is 76 cracked in stadium
It’s nice to actually be a good character and not just mid for 9yrs
can confirm
backstabber is significantly worse
reaper is in the gutter
What it’s super good
Not going to be hitting rank 1 playing freya are you trying to self sabotage
No
Well its boring playing the same heros 247 lol
All of them are cracked in stadium lol
All are cracked but 76 just a nuisance level of good , as is anyone . Whether you do healbot 76 or AIMBOT 76 :p
On another note, I love how all these heros like Cass, hazard get AIMBOT builds but the literal robot mek dva doesn't
how are you giving the enormous shotgun style weapon aimbot
just fly into people
Interesting thing with soldier is almost all his builds are viable more heroes should work that way
You can do auto rocket hybrid hard heal hybrid heal dmg jump man soldier infinite health soldier
All while being able to run super fast
And he’s flexible enough if you need to change mid round
Missiles? Like what lol
But if you play some heroes you kinds lock yourself in
if you play visor 76 in a higher mmr match you just instantly lose
I kinda figured , I only really whip it out against mercies
Even then the power itself is detri
instances where instead of sprinting instantly after using helix, you rocket and ur stuck in a visor animation for a second which has gotten me killed quite a few times
& aswell 76 is actually quite mid rn lol, espc after the nerfs to overhealth
Hmm, I ran into a 76 alot yesterday where he'd get enemy takes DMG in heal first , then stick with me , then uh sprint and the other good one , and he was a PAINN
prob was me
its because visor does nothing lmao
i mean you dont even use normal visor in stadium unless youve got like falconer nano because vanadium is so good
yup, maybe it would be semi viable with cat but I haven't come close to losing to anyone playing or picking visor yet
probably still not worth would require too much wp and it doesnt headshot
How good is Stadium? How does the build system work?
mode itself is alright, Stadium match making though is not & is designed to enforce you to lose repeatedly after a few wins.
really? i think due to the lower player count its far easier to keep high winrates
Wut
Soldier aimbot visor power with chaingun is Too strong
yeah idk about what they said lmao
half the players in it are metal ranks
so you can lobby stomp if youre semi competent
I'm diamind and i own Grand masters often with aimbot soldier build
do people really play tracer in stadium or am i the only one?
tracer is much more fun in stadium than in regular
Needs actual mechanical skill so most people dont play her because they cant
She is really strong though
Dunno visor absolutely destroys when you combo it with 100 ammo and the attack speed gadget
It’s basically auto won round 7 in a large precentage of games assuming since auto aim especially it can hard lock priority targets and the ttk is so fast
Sure you have to make sure you bait out things that can hard lock you like Anna sleeping the ground or something but as long as you do that it’s hard wins especially if your jumping
Auto aim soldier builds are such a sad thing to see over and over 😭 I don’t see any diff builds at all and it’s sad to see as someone who primarily plays soldier on dps
Thing is it’s not even a strong build but you can definitely win games when combined with that gadget if you time it right
It also just feels less fun, like you don’t do anything unique you just do the same soldier things but with auto aim 😭
Thing is auto aim can cover a big gap in skill actual aim is still better but most people arnt really trying to play serious stadium
Most of stadium just wants to quickly get all star and hit the road
Probably won’t play stadium myself next season takes to long
I feel like ever since Haz nerfs, my performance as tank dropped
Thats normally how that goes
Character nerf -> character is worse -> i do worse when I play character
See
Ever since the nerfs I avoided using him
But then That means I play tanks that I play less than Haz (Orisa/Ram), making it harder for me to rank up as tank
My current ratings are Pro2 40%, Damage Pro2 80%, support Pro4 demotion protection
I'll go brawl as tank if need be, but my preferred Playstyle as tank is usually Dive. Pick off the Squishies then help My pals with the tank
Because strategy and Target Prioritizing is how you survive in team battles yes?
Well yea
Why don't you try those and try to learn the one you enjoy the most tbh?
Considering I'm solo que (Considering changing to try to get more friends to play when I have the time/days), I guess I just rarely trust people to get on in there and earn priority kills
Before, I place my trust in someone, only for it to be shattered.
It also doesn't help that my aim as of currently is better short ranged
There's been times where I get very Sick Long/Mid range kills, but it's usually inconsistent
Drill this into your head, if you see someone pick visor they are ass or they are throwing or your mmr is so low that people still use that there.
if you're not at the point of being to 1v9 your way out of those low ranks, then it is mostly on yourself
What, so I have to be some sweatlord that prioritizes the game if I want to get to that one rank and be done?
Pro2 for both tank and DPS
alr dm me battlenet
K, when I'm finished taking my dogs out I'll Friend ya
With DPS, my usual go to Heros are either Freja or Torb
Freja with the Crossbow build to burst down Tanks, or Torb with Molten Mender to Control Space
we playin or naw g
Not sure what you consider low but the average player base in regular comp is plat and it’s significantly lower in stadium so it works fine
survival soldier might be the most fun build ive done yet
genuinely immortal pest
not biotic soldier btw
sprint is soldier's best ability in stadium by far
it's always been
That doesn’t answer literally anything
If your some GM comp player then it doesn’t really matter what build you use
You can just own the lobby by existing
yeah I'm tired, I'll dm you something in a second
I went through a lock tf in moment
First round we lost, and my fellow ana straight up said "GG Team Sucks"
Then me and Haz Straight up went "Aight Bet" (I was zen btw)
And we both straight up ganged up on the enemies every round afterwards, and you know what I said after?
"GG we DON'T Suck, also W Haz"
Ana said "Ya you do" and I called them out as a toxic Ana
And wanna know what's funny? In terms of stats I was slightly behind heals, but more in kills and damage
And even then my heals as zen was consistent
Can someone explain to me how stadium matchmaking works? I’m pro 4 and I was just paired with a top 10 player and I presume team who rolled us horrifically obviously. But why is that a thing
Yeah I don't get that either. We REALLY need a good matchmaking that doesn't do the Hydrogen Bomb VS Coughing Baby matchup
Like it just sucks to win 8 straight then go up against an absurd team
Reminds me of the Moira I had on my team in my first Stadium game. Would not stop typing, instant avoid.
hidden mmr system, if u win too much in a row u get put into matches concocted from the depths of the deepest circle of hell
AHHHHHH
This is what I was trying to say
homie knows
obviously its not like.. verified but i think ive played enough stadium comp to theorize that there is a hidden elo number that is a lot more volatile than your actual displayed rank
like an exponentially increasing one that puts you against others who are on winning streaks as well
yeah, if you look through my old msg's, maybe like a month ago I said that exact same thing
and alot of weird match making on certain accs, my 5v5 champ 4 Was only able to que into people that were literally top 10 stadium in dps, ie genetics, mars
ill take a look rn while i wait for my stadium round to begin
ah yea i see
like blizz dont even gotta verify i know for a fact this is so a thing
and at that time it was like 1-0 after 10 qp games, had a hour que in novice 1-0 lol
but at the time my other acc which was C5 in Role would just get normal games like my higher legend accs, usually just me having to hard carry to win or being put vs top 10 stacks while I have 4 people trying stadium for the first time 🤣
I swear to god they ninja nerfed the 5% Vendetta cash buff
yea bro on a fresh account it took me like... maybe 6 comp matches to get back to all-star skill level opponents
but ingeneral over all my accs, I'd say after like 20 wins the games start to become the same as like a L3+ acc
yup seems to be the case for sure
the funniest part about it though is that when it's come to lose you always get the same people, but the match maker will never put those pppl vs you
not necessarily i had several instances where the matchmaker would swap people from my team to theirs and vice versa
So if Stadium matchmaking is based off of standard competitive & quick play, why am I getting matches with master & grand master ranked players when I have a grand total of 4 hours in standard quick play and 0 in ranked?
stadium uses its own matchmaking
its unrelated to qp + comp
People say its tied to standard quickplay
well the evidence speaks for itself, look how ur being matched
i surmise people are... incorrect
is stadium comp important as normal comp? i dont play stadium that much tbh
its like a 1-10 thing, I'll get certain people on my team after I win a game or two but will never be put against them and if I am against them their team is incredible stacked, shits so interesting
it's not but idk, Like I said my Champ 4 acc had 0 stad games played ever and it took 31 wins last season to reach legend 5, Was 31-39 and I wasn't losing points even at legend 5 which I've never had espc on a fresh acc with no prior seasons
Its whatever you prefer tbh. I think normal comp is cringe asf
That's about where I am in Allstar 5, getting difficult to win. Then again, when I get a Mercy/Zarya/Doom/Rein (I play Vendetta) I usually do very well and win most of my games
idk maybe ur just not playing the 1v9 builds
this season I hit legend 4 80% within the first 24 hours only solo queueing
The thing I have the most trouble with is attack speed zenyatta & attack speed junkrat
and then caught the red carpet of doom
I only lose to the junk build if they have a mercy and i don't but ingeneral that build is insanly tough to play against
espc if ur on a squishy hero
zen tho, haven't seen a good zen player all season
idk, seasons weird
I'm gonna be honest, I was Platinum in standard overwatch 1 ranked, never played overwatch 2 until like 2 or 3 weeks ago. I can't stand normal overwatch, Stadium is fun as hell though. Been like a 5 year hiatus for me. I'm not very good, but I'm having fun pushing stadium ranked even if it isn't taken as serious as standard ranked
imo stadium is a whole diff game, 5v5 maybe translates to like 25% of it but aside from that
I think it would be cool to have a true moba style map with lanes & minions like league of legends
To be fair that can for sure happen if you get counter picked and die once or twice early first round and end the first round with like $8700 total cash
Just get snowballed into low cash hell
imo there is no counters in stadium except for like, cas to reaper
aside from that you can build to counter the counters etc
why tho
Nah certain tanks definitely fuck me over. Ram is much harder to fight than an Orisa or a junkqueen
oh dang
or it's turned down severely in open q
I don't mind being countered by the other team, I don't like being asked to switch by my team to counter their team or if I'm being countered. That is why I hate standard overwatch
I like to play what I play
yeah I only play hitscan so idk about vendetta but the only one decent i've played against is rez but 99% of the time he is stacking with a mercy
Yeah Mercy with Vendetta is huge
Real rough time without one
I had a toxic mf in my game last weekend lmao. Dps saw me pre-select vendetta, swapped with me. I was like "oh how nice he knows ven can be counter picked easily"
Proceeds to lock ven and go 0-3 first round.
I out performed them on Soldier 6 7 that I never play xD
Sure
yalls thoughts on cat in stadium so far?
mid without bastion
Bastion in stadium when?
take the bobpill
that shit is evil
i remember getting stomped by ashe cuz the damn cat would bring that robot around the corner every damn time
even with all the buffs to vendettas cash and hp gain and stuff shes still mid as hell
whos the best dps in game rn
Mei
rat imo
tracer
mei
Highest noon, bob, dva nuke, visor, sundering blade
Cat is eating
Everytime I want to play Cat there's a dirty dishonest Rammatra on the other team
Best support to use in stadium?
I don't know if it's the best but i often use kiriko or juno
Got any good juno builds
the top 3 supports rn are brig wuyang ana
Cat is too damn mobile. I do just fine handling pharah, mercy & juno as vendetta. Cat is too fast lol
There is a build called "S2 (TOP 500) Healing for all" in stadiumbuild.io site. Its the latest most efficent juno build imo.
Ima check that website out thx
no worries
thanks i'll try to check this !
Yikes… kicking people out after 1 bad game is sad tbh even when it wasn’t you 😬😬😬
Agreed
99CPP
Just a normal Jetpack Cat build code, nothing wrong with this
The prankster
Sounds like the chuds did you a favor
Most of the time if you go 0-3 or 0-4 the game was basically not winnable regardless of the performance because there’s likely more then one thing going wrong
Yep i was running a rein attk lifesteal build and i was trying to apply pressure on the team but my team just kept shooting from distance so i couldn’t get any value
And if even if you tried to coach the team into maybe making it close usually the guy isn’t going to listen anyways because they want to do it there way like I had a game with a bad junkrat so it was basically a 4v5 the entire game. I tried to explain to my tank that you have to play down to the junk rat. There solution was they can just play up to us. Dog it’s a silver junk rat you ain’t gonna teach them positioning in one game dawg
Also they gave zero comns and just didnt even talk until we lost
Its funny really
So I mean if I was tanking that game we’d probably lose but I could probably won some rounds and made it a game
Yea i told her she and her duo sucked after they kicked me
Then she blocked me on discord 😂
The trick is convincing people that your idea is there idea but that’s incredibly hard to do in the heat of a game
what is the context
Just a loser e couple kicking me out after 1 bad game even when i wasnt the problem
Spawning infinite balls ?
What was the point of the juno rework if shes still a throw pick if you don’t Run torpedo
Unless someone has a juno build that isnt boring and actually does something? Does anyone have one :P?
I'm 6 wins into MD10 and they are still putting me in Gold 5
What do they mean by that
nah this shit is crazy
Torpedo is her worst build
Go stinger blink boosts overhealth ring and run motk lumerico
Really? I feel like it’s the only one where she does anything
I use something similar to this and i swear i don’t do anything
No hes asserting dominance
im tired of getting cat players in my lobbies
Winston be moving holy
didnt they nerf hazard
fax
Has anyone played into a full flier team yet?
Had a game that was pharah mercy and then cat carrying rat and sigma
Finally got Bannana Wuyang 
@unique sandal i think i have a decent build you could try
Yep, at least with half decent players at times, struggles against any flyer or hero with some kind of stun or hinder sometimes
I've played 100 or so ranked games so far and have seen like 3 Tracers
i just played a quick play stadium game and my whole team couldn’t open up the armory and after a round some of us were able to switch characters i dont know if anyone else has gotten a bug like yet but i just wanted to share 🙏😭
I managed to switch to bastion once
Just once
I mentioned it a while ago, that bug is pretty common but the character swap is rarer
I think they at least fixed the picking any hero thing
Check out this TikTok I posted! https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNRtRHv2g/
am I tripping or does vendetta feel kinda busted now
I think youre tripping, she needs the stars to align to feast
Junkrat, Cassidy and Pharah can ruin her day
have seen some ap vendettas that just do not die an do a shit ton of damage with mini ult
Ye mini ult is quite string
Check dm @crimson dew
PLEASE
im using territorial cat rn and it has like a 100% winrate its insane
i got to all-star for the first time thanks to it
well i think doom or jq
I swear to God they ninja nerfed the 5% cash buff they just gave her with jetpackcat patch
I've faced a handful of AP vendettas as weapon damage vendetta and I'd say weapon damage out performs AP
Haven't lost to an AP vendetta
First two I'd agree with. Pharah isn't really a problem. It's fun harassing pharahs
eh you do have to sometimes fight nail and tooth to kill her
Honestly the AP spin build is quite strong after the buffs
and can mitigate junk and cass
Since you can get 50% reduced damage while spinning and cant be hindered out of spin
Crater creator is also strange. Says overhead swing drags a flying target to the ground and does 30 weapon damage.
Is it only for the 30 weapon damage?
Overhead swing already drags flying targets to the ground without that item
Sometimes yeah
Its when you are airborne not them so its just a free 30 dmg on the overhead
And 10% wp
Ah I see I see
is there a best power build for doomfist at the moment? everytime i play i get washed i wanna know which moveset is the most usable currently
Check dm @tulip linden
You want a build for juno right?
idk the meta build for doomfist but i know an item that seems so good with him, the lumerico fusion drive or whatever heals armor/shields after using an ability or gadget, goes great with uppercut cuz, yknow even if your not close enough to an enemy to uppercut you can just use it to heal
Aimbot 76
Please
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