stadium-discussion

[paper mantle]

i really like getting powers faster, but i don't like how money-starved each game is

[fallen cargo]

fr I hate the last round only having 2 epics because it goes so fast

[finite dock]

We don't play Overwatch for long games Stadium or not

[boreal ruin]

Attention span issue

The core of Stadium is to build up to something round by round

[finite dock]

No it’s just true face it

[finite dock]

It’s still this yes

[boreal ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-dog-hug-dog-question-mark-dog-question-mark-gif-14144426802562365039

[paper mantle]

lol

[boreal ruin]

If i wanted to play stadium qp i'd do that

7 round format was fine

[paper mantle]

the problem with 7 round is that the complete build happens only on round 7

it's not the length itself

[mighty perch]

hazard is BROKEN

[paper mantle]

i don't understand their hardon for having completed builds be run only on the last round which happens very rarely

[mighty perch]

also i preferred the 7 game format

[finite dock]

Well I’ve played qp a lot and sorry but not sorry BO5 is better

[mighty perch]

i mean that's just how it is

[acoustic kiln]

im gonna miss the satisfaction of making 0-3 comebacks

but i do prefer bo5 as well

[paper mantle]

i mean i don't think it's interesting or good

[mighty perch]

do you want them to give you full build earlier and then the next rounds you just don't build anything?

[paper mantle]

saying that adds nothing to the conversation

[paper mantle]

YES lol

(which is not true anyway because you have items to buy)

[boreal ruin]

no 4 powers usually synergyze that crazily together

its usually 3 main build powers

and a situation flex one

[paper mantle]

yeah, which would be nice to have in every game

[mighty perch]

oh you mean just the powers

i mean i guess that'd be fine but i don't mind having to wait for the fourth power

[boreal ruin]

nah

[fallen cargo]

I'm mostly upset they got rid of round 1 5% move speed. My poor Rein is slow again

[boreal ruin]

worst removal oat

[finite dock]

I got destroyed by Haz

[mighty perch]

stadium hazard is bonkers

from what i've seen dps feel kinda useless because hazard shuts them down

supports at least still get to play the game beacuse they need to heal the hazard

[finite dock]

He’s clearly gonna get nerf

[vapid stone]

oh my god they removed ana tranquilizer

such a good patch wow its all redeemed

[boreal ruin]

torb destroys hazard with the overload heal power

[acoustic kiln]

can confirm

cushioned padding doesnt work on hazard ult

[wet dock]

Is the combat text feature bugged?

[plain nest]

what is the best souj build?

[spring thicket]

holy fuck every one of these guys is so fucking busted

[spring thicket]

heres my favourite 822DN

but rail build is also fucking awesome

[paper mantle]

yah

[plain nest]

okay bet

[plain nest]

how i type the hoe in im a lil slow

[paper mantle]

man cash gen is borked

also i'm getting constant framedrops compared to all other seasons, anyone else notice that?

[scarlet bronze]

bruh why not

[acoustic kiln]

mannnn

no tracer or winston nerfs is crazy

[tepid finch]

which one

the one that gives overhealth and 10% attack speed?

[spring thicket]

winston is like not that good

hazard with his block deals 2x winstons damage

[paper mantle]

i don't even know what Hazard does 😂

[timber hearth]

I recently found out the 10 damage over time from Juno's stinger power counts as ability damage so it procs cyber venom neat

Also scales with ability power

[boreal ruin]

the one that gives you size increase and HPS on overload

[mighty perch]

i love you kiriko i would never sayt anything bad about you

[timber hearth]

That's the perk Ironblood Injectors

[cyan wraith]

is it just me or do gadgets just feel kinda useless? or well for the first 2 rounds anyways

idk im still getting use to using them

sometimes i forget to use them 💔

[fallow socket]

ana can get two dashes

💀

or three if you buy the epic boots too

[fallow socket]

ye i forgot abt them too

[cyan wraith]

plus pressing 3 on my keyboard is such an awkward placement uhhrhrhrrrr

[fallow socket]

right

anyways ive been enjoying the heck out of sleep nade

u dont even need like venomous or other buffs, just having more anti uptime is so toxic

[timber hearth]

Colossal core, kitsune charm and refresher are the only gadgets that are really worth it

@fallow socket btw does the nanoboost from nanonade also proc the effect of falconer?

[boreal ruin]

yeah same thing i just call both powers

[fallow socket]

havent tried that

[mighty perch]

the dash is probably good on heroes like ana and zen and the one inpostwd is SO good against ana

45 seconds is a long time but it really enables diving when you don't havw to worry about antinade

[timber hearth]

I shall hope and pray it doesn't

[mighty perch]

what's falconer

the one that nanos her too?

it doesn't

[fallow socket]

no its the one that gives ult and atk spd on nano

[timber hearth]

New ana power that gives attack speed and 10% ult charge to nanoed teammates

[mighty perch]

it probablt works

[timber hearth]

I'm very very scared

[mighty perch]

don't worry the nade nano only gives like 25% of a real nano boost effecys

so if it does work you probably only get 2.5% ult charge

which isn't crazy

in fact it's not even good

[timber hearth]

I made a test build for 50k cash and I can throw out 20% ult charge about every 8 seconds

If that's the case

Sooner if I hit enemies with the nade

[mighty perch]

how though? doesn't the power only give 10%?

and with nade it should give only 2.5

[timber hearth]

Sleep dart drops nade and procs nano giving 10% and normal nade gives another 10%

Haven't had the chance to properly test so I hope I'm wrong

[mighty perch]

sleep dart only drops nades on enemies though i think

[timber hearth]

It's on impact

Hit a wall and it still drops nade

[mighty perch]

oh true

also you can test the ult gain in practice tool

you get 2,5% from nade

[fallow socket]

i miss 7 rounds comp already

[timber hearth]

Didn't have the time to properly test cuz I had to leave tho glad to know it's not as insane as it could have been

[barren finch]

Best of 5 now why?

[shadow fjord]

really not liking the best of 5 change since it ruins the late game and early game distinction

like before there was alot matchups the win con was to shut down the late game hero before they scaled... but now everyone is scaling instantly which gets rid of that dynamic and turns it into "this hero ALWAYS beats this hero"

like its fine for me since the only 2 characters i play are late game characters so i'll take the extra wins but like... its not really good for the mode

[barren finch]

They are always changing stuff

[shadow fjord]

feels like a change that ruins the higher ranked stadium games but lower ranked people will probably enjoy it more

by higher rank i just mean the higher hidden mmr and not shown rank

i'll have to play it some but its a sad change to see

[barren finch]

NGL I thought I was accidentally in unranked lol

[shadow fjord]

lol i would have too if i didn't check things out first

[barren finch]

My team played like it too lmao

[paper mantle]

they could also make the rounds last longer

[shadow fjord]

honestly i don't think that would fix the problem... before power scaled more granularly so with late game carries you could shut them down earlier and keep their scaling more in check by winning early... now they'll start a bit scaled up to the point where you're never going to see them at their one weak point

[barren finch]

I really like the 7 round games. They are so unpredictable and fun. Like I've seen so many be like 3 losses then it completely gets turned around.

[shadow fjord]

yeah going from 0-3 to winning or 1-3 to winning is always fun and got more common the better the people i was playing with and against got

yeah, that usually happened when the late scaling team finally hits its stride in like round 3 or 4 lol

sometimes one team just loses momentum tho

lol my final game had someone who i'm like 95% was cheating, we still won but man it was rough

was a tracer doing some actually inhuman stuff and sometimes weirdly tracking through walls when shooting someone else in front of the wall

[spring thicket]

they wont

[shadow fjord]

they could techincally... i've had single rounds last up to 45 mins

[spring thicket]

its 20m max

[shadow fjord]

but thats rare

[spring thicket]

unless you're running pure stall

[shadow fjord]

mercy is really the pure stall lol

any round i've seen last more than 30 mins had a mercy

and usually a dva but not always

[fallow socket]

mercy only if no one can get her

d.va sig tho 10,000 years of stall

[shadow fjord]

i'm usually on moira so at best i can hope to burst her after the rez pops

[fallow socket]

moira too with that tank build

[shadow fjord]

pure ap moira... if they are really good with cooldowns can almost pull tank moira stuff... but you're always one mistep from exploding

[hollow hollow]

Wat bout JQ?

[shadow fjord]

she can but she has to be fed to get there, i've played JQ in a round that lasted for 35 mins but it was less my fault and more the dva and mercy's fault... i never died, they refused to stay down

[hollow hollow]

Jq can turn a whole game around lmao

[shadow fjord]

i'm really bad at her it was meant to be a fun game but it turned into a nightmare i couldn't escape

[hollow hollow]

Yup lmao

Torb is gonna be fun with the 3 turrets

[shadow fjord]

new ana might be a nightmare with the new combo powers she can get

her sniper sleep dart is mostly what i'm worried about lol

[fallow socket]

be worried of sleep dart that spawns nade

[shadow fjord]

looking at the item changes... ap moira got a big buff on two of her main items... but one costs more so i'm happy

[fallow socket]

its absolutely busted

[shadow fjord]

yeah both of them

[fallow socket]

mini nade triggers those items that reduce nade cd on hits too

the healing one and then the any hit one

[shadow fjord]

a good ana was already problems in stadium... now she's gonna be a menace when you run into a good one

i finally finished giving in and finally updating to windows 11 so i'll finally be able to try the changes... like i'm not super hardcore into stadium but since i've played ow since the og beta its just been a super refreshing twist on the game

spent all of today trouble shooting lol

[ocean vessel]

since when was comp 5 rounds

i support it tho

[fallow socket]

since this season

i dont

[ocean vessel]

why not

i only played one round so far so i wanna know the problems

it felt like scaling was nicer tbh

[fallow socket]

ye scaling is nicer and faster but i liked longer games for smarter builds and decision making

[shadow fjord]

yeah it just feels like it removed some of the complexity from the mode that made it fun, i don't think it ruins it but it has made it worse for me overall

[fallow socket]

coming back down 2 also does not have even half of the impact of coming back from down 3

[worn sandal]

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[zealous escarp]

Yeah I like gadgets

[shadow fjord]

gadgets seem neat but i'm still trying to get used to them

[lavish canopy]

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[undone osprey]

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[zealous escarp]

Ana is so aids rn wtf

[acoustic kiln]

aids good or aids bad

[zealous escarp]

Both

Anti on sleep is crazy especially when you cant miss the sleep

[ripe ledge]

Giant sleep dart got removed though

[paper mantle]

when is aids good???

[zealous escarp]

The splash sleep

[boreal ruin]

Hazard needs a hotfix

[wicked hull]

Im confused??? They got rid of my All Star Damage Title from Season 17 but I get to keep my All Star Damage Name Card from Season 17 as well???

[paper mantle]

soj is insane

[wicked hull]

My aim is so bad for some reason 😭

[vapid stone]

i wish i could post images here bro

[paper mantle]

i wish i could react to messages

never seen in my life a discord server with that disabled

[sudden bridge]

Haven’t loss to a hazard or torb yet

Did have an 83 kill hazard though but super serum and anti armor killed him quickly round 5

[dense goblet]

Well 5 rounds stadium comp is stupid, why would they change it

[dense goblet]

rounds end and game is over before u can even buy anything

it's stupid

[cursive delta]

boo on reaper nerfs especially with big sleep gone. 7 rounds was nice

[paper mantle]

the only thing i like better about it is getting a power every round

so they should do that, but with 7 rounds

or make each round longer

but ideally, 7 rounds with power slots full on round 4

[cursive delta]

idk i kinda dug the gradual pace of the 7 but i can understand. Losing before your powered up could be a let down

[dense goblet]

was happy I got legend on all roles yesterday, but i think im done with stadium now, mode is destroyed

[sudden bridge]

5 rounds was always the intended goal but they wanted you to get a feel for it the starting 2 rounds in 7 man are kinda boring tbh

You still end the game with 6 purple items assuming it goes to 5 and just unlock powers faster now speeding up when a build comes online

[dense goblet]

For now, all the games ive played do max 3 rounds, u lucky if u have money for a purple and the game is over

[sudden bridge]

I’ve got enough for purples round 1

14k ones

Generally speaking blues are better early round anyways

Had two 5 round games today just all depends on what you get tbh but id rather end the misery 3 and out one way or another

Sure you miss out on the potential not mercy rule turn around game but tbh those are so few and far in between that it’s statistically insignificant anyways

[dense goblet]

but how do u even get past round 3 xD all my games end xDD

[sudden bridge]

If you or the enemy team can’t win one round the game probably deserves to be ended

[dense goblet]

maybe its cos im legend in all roles and it puts me with legends (or not idk) but been playing for over an hour now and havent lost a game and non went past 3 rounds

idk how u getting enough money for a purple of 14k on round 1

[sudden bridge]

Well your rank reset so unless you grinded it out super fast your facing novices again

[dense goblet]

also robot and payloads move faster too, like wtf...

[sudden bridge]

Doesn’t particularly surprise me that one legend can swing the lobby

Dunno think I went 18-0 round 1

[dense goblet]

idk... i think they should of left it as it was, it was fine, if anyone wanted a faster game then go QP x.x

[sudden bridge]

Right but it was the design idea to be 5 rounds

[dense goblet]

i didnt know that

[sudden bridge]

They just wanted people to learn how it worked at a slower pace

Before people had to play like super fast

[dense goblet]

gotcha

[sudden bridge]

I’m basically round 4 geared in round 2 now

[dense goblet]

my rounds last like 3min xD

[sudden bridge]

Which would make your average player that never played stadium cry if that’s how they learned

A lot of like stuff had a cost reduction as well so like the anti flying blue is now green nothing actually changed on the item though

Now you can just take it round 1

What I don’t like is how certain builds don’t really have the time to come alive

Turrent torb is basically a throw in round 1 If you’re team is diamond or above

Though I imagine a round 7 torb would be scary af

[paper mantle]

you sure as hell don't

[ionic tree]

sigh

soj being added was the worst idea ever

shes already stupidly busted in normal modes

[dusky slate]

agreed tried to play junkrat but every time i tried to fight her she just one shot me

[acoustic kiln]

AP sojourn is pretty fun ngl

[shadow fjord]

i never tried the clone build on kiri and i should have done earlier, its a fun build

[dusky slate]

not saying she isn't fun to play she just really annoying to play against

[acoustic kiln]

true

[zealous escarp]

Yeah Sojourn is obnoxious

[paper snow]

Hey I need help seriously... ever since last season I havent been able to play stadium... I experience constant lag spikes mixed with inconstant models... some games Im not even lagging but the characters and abilities are dysncd like Im taking and deal dmg in real time but the models are floating or straight up invisible... I have no clue how to fix it... this issue started when I swapped my gpus ever since stadium has been unplayable... its not a frame issue and I dont know what to do someone who is smart pls help me

[paper mantle]

problem is they made a build around her railgun shots
that shit absolutely didn't need to become stronger
stadium needs more powerful defensive items

[ionic tree]

right dude

[paper mantle]

her and Tracer are insane dps output
a full gun build for Tracer does 700 dmg in a 40 bullet clip

that empties in like 1 second

how are you supposed to survive that

[lime sparrow]

how good is rein in stadium rn?

[shadow fjord]

so crazy bug i just had with torb, that ability that gives you 2 shots of your ult when you overload... i had a sig hit me with rock right as the animation played and it gave me a full ult...

so be careful when you stun torbs lol

i was at 40% ult, got to use my ult and keep the 40%

had to check the replay because i thought i was losing it and i must have had my ult or something

not sure if the bug is repeatable tho tbh

[shadow fjord]

he's pretty good, theres some builds that work well with him, i don't play him but i've seen him perform well often enough

[fallow socket]

Good if you can get creative w him. Pls dont force smashing into every build and matchup

[acoustic kiln]

he's no d.va, hazard, or winston but hes not bad

just gotta find the build that works for you

[little moat]

hey guys im new to stadium. does anyone know how do i unlock the comp stadium mode?

im D3 on regular comp but the stadium comp is locked for me

[acoustic kiln]

i think its win 10 stadium quickplay matches

or play

i dont remember

[little moat]

ok thx alot

[shadow fjord]

stadium matchs are hyper one sided today

[reef lichen]

i dont want to play stadium for now cause hazard can kill orisa with max weapon power with only bodyshots

not even headshots

he can literally just shoot orisa 5 times and she dies, that is actually stupid

then he only needs 3 critical shots to kill orisa

[sharp needle]

i can already see all the hammer time torb builds, increased speed while using his hammer and explosions that allow you to 2 shot a dps with his hammer in overload 😭

[lime sparrow]

UHHHHHHHHHHH is support hazard viable?

[fallow socket]

The explosions are actually stupid strong

[sharp needle]

they can 2 shot a dps on round one, 4-5 a tank on round one

[sharp needle]

7k damage with 14 kills and 0 deaths while only using the hammer on torb

yeah

he's strong

[tepid finch]

anyone else feel like torb is so clunky to play

like he just doesnt shoot sometimes

[sharp needle]

then dont, become a hammer player today

[cunning adder]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

the torb experience in 4k

[raw urchin]

Sojourn seems mostly a win more character if your teams already doing well, like busted strong when you are alive but the squishiest hero by far

[tepid finch]

I'd be surprised if they don't atleast nerf sojourns cash gain

[kind sluice]

Do we know who the mid season hero is this season?

[sudden bridge]

I did so yes I sure do

[paper mantle]

good for you to get it once, but most players don't get 65k+ in 4 rounds

[naive moat]

saw someone say that stadium rounds should be longer in comp but not go back to best of 7 and i lowkey like it

makes up for the lower cash gain too

[boreal ruin]

7 rounds was just better

it made dealing with unfavorable matchups much easier

since you'd actually have time to adapt and build accordingly

i usually tend to check what the enemy's going for, especially when playing tank, so i can counterbuild accordingly

[naive moat]

i have a feeling its gonna be change back to 7 so while 5 rounds last im gonna play soj and hope i get somewhere 🥀

[nocturne sandal]

Whats the point of shortening it, now its just qp with a longer hero selection screen

[mighty perch]

thank you blizzard keep hazard broken in stadium forever 🙏

[sudden bridge]

Huh there’s 5 rounds

[sudden bridge]

The point was stadium is a much quicker game they wanted to ease you into that speed of gameplay many rounds in 7 were unnecessary bloat, now that the community better understands the mode 5 rounds is all that’s necessary

You’re playing the same game but now shorter and with builds coming online sooner

Yes you give up those avoided mercy rules by 10 coins games were you pull a 4-0 turnaround games but you still can do a 3 swing. You can still counter people the same if not better with gadgets

[naive moat]

i do understand why people like best of 7 more because you have more time to figure out your builds while best of 5 you just kinda pick whatever u want and hope it works

[finite dock]

I don't mind if they revert the change

But I want to believe there are other ways to make games faster

[sudden bridge]

It’s the same number of items and abilities

You should have 80-90% of the build figured out the minute you pick the character

[finite dock]

And chat let's be honest, we can't blame them for trying things out.

[sudden bridge]

With minor counter choices

Like I pick soldier 90% of my build is the same game in game out there’s some variance sometimes but I’m not sitting there building on the fly

[naive moat]

my biggest problem is that the cash gain in comp isnt the same as qp

so you cant get ur builds faster

like they adjusted it so its higher for best of 5 but its still not the same

[sudden bridge]

You should be maxed out on round 5

[naive moat]

i just played a game on soj and i was halfway done with my build by round 5, which is 58.5k cash

if i did it in qp i wouldve gotten more

i did a little shit at the start but still the cash gain isnt the same

[sudden bridge]

Cash gain should be the same unless I missed something in patch notes

[naive moat]

cash gain is a little lower than qp

[sudden bridge]

Is that defined somewhere

[naive moat]

no but people have noticed its lower

unless youre doing really good/have a cash farming build you wont fully complete a build

or if the rounds go on forever

[sudden bridge]

Well that’s silly we can’t go off what people perceive

My 5 round sojourn game ended at 74k

[naive moat]

no its like genuinely lower

[sudden bridge]

It’s scaled for 5 rounds instead of 7

Like there’s blues now green to cover that

[paper mantle]

bruh, you don't buy anything after round 5, the game's over 😂

[naive moat]

i ended my last game at 46k on soj in comp, i then went to check a game where i played soj and ended round 4 at 43k
youd think my cash would be higher at round 5 right

i won both games

[sudden bridge]

You don’t buy anything on round 5?

Well shoot maybe you should start

[naive moat]

comp game vs qp game

the cash gain is lower in comp 😭

[sudden bridge]

Kills don’t necessary = cash so

That’s basically meaningless

[naive moat]

its still lower in comp, and im showing the stats because my dmg was about 1k off

[paper mantle]

please use your brain

to be able to have 6 purple items DURING round 5, you need to amass enough capital during rounds 1-2-3-4

as i said, getting 65k+ in 4 rounds is not easy, and not often

[naive moat]

if they just buff the cash gain in comp to be equal to qp then best of 5 really wont be that bad

but i still get why people would want best of 7 back

[paper mantle]

the resource progression was perfect over 7 rounds

now, with how they fiddled with stuff, you can get much sharper resource deficits and earlier, which leads to more stomps and less comeback potential

[naive moat]

^

[paper mantle]

which is just, not good for the game

the only positive aspect of this whole change is getting access to your build earlier

but they could do that at 7 rounds

[naive moat]

i do enjoy getting my builds faster but if i wanted that id just go to qp

even thought i like 5 rounds it does make more sense to have 7 because thats what it originally was

they did it well

[paper mantle]

get your powers exactly like right now, but the game still be 7 rounds so that you get to play with your completed powers a lot more

instead of just like 10% of the time when games go to round 7

[mighty perch]

moira's credit gains need to be nerfed asap

they play like ass but get one trillion credits just for existing so they think they're good

[rapid rose]

can hazard get a nerf alr?

[paper mantle]

they do get way too much

[sudden bridge]

Sure it is you just suck apparently I ended every game in full purples that went 5 rounds

About as stupid as your zen take yesterday

[paper mantle]

my Zen take is correct, whatever it was

[naive moat]

nahh its not just them unless ur pumping out heals/dmg like crazy you really wont end round 5 with 6 purples

[paper mantle]

everybody knows that, they're just flailing because they got pwned intellectually

no one can ever admit to being wrong on the internet, this is well known

[shadow fjord]

lol "i'm so smart" is never a good mic drop even if you are right tbh... but yeah i think the mode feels alot better at 7 rounds if you're playing in a comp setting

[gray crown]

omg we hold grudges

[paper mantle]

speaking of correct takes, Instant Karma might be broken

[sudden bridge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/837735005504536576/1428195986026790912/image.png?ex=68f19ea9&is=68f04d29&hm=5df840b0c698b41f7ab2c16e39f606d9904eefa11c3382b8419628ce306f216f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

Pretty easy to get enough for an epic round 1

[gray basalt]

how do i get more points as juno in stadium

[mint geyser]

Yep. I didnt like when it went 7 rounds because it means it was a LONG match, but it needed to be that way. Sometimes your builds didnt mesh until round 3-5 and you got to make your comeback.. Now even though you get to buy your 2nd power in round 2, the cash isnt there to get things where they need to be

[sudden bridge]

I dunno I havn't had any problems coming online in round 2

Your entire build shouldn't be online in round 2 though

Heck juno didn't even come online til round 7 before

she's way better now

[boreal ruin]

Round 2 is the equivalent of round 3

it should be

like i said again, current format just makes it much harder to adjust to matchups.

[hybrid gust]

stadium was fun it really was

then the devs decided to ruin it

[past frost]

this is so wrong

[mint geyser]

It should be, but even when I get MVP in round 1, I cant afford in round 2 what I could in round 3.

Also, I hate hazard.

[boreal ruin]

type of bait to only work in ows

[paper mantle]

5round format is bad, but i think getting one power per round is much better

[past frost]

im not wrong lol

stadium was so ass

[paper mantle]

and it's good now?

[past frost]

i didnt try

probably not

[boreal ruin]

only time you're not wrong is this server is when you're silent lowk ✌️🥀

[past frost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1151598137773920317/1242583799288561714/attachment-1-1.gif

[paper mantle]

so why tf are you here

[boreal ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/reddit-soylent-soy-soyface-nerd-gif-11917812235578842485

[past frost]

boredom

[scarlet bronze]

nah he's lowk cooking

[boreal ruin]

thats it im turning your perms into furry pictures

[scarlet bronze]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

what the flip

[boreal ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-duck-gif-5717372584256233732

[acoustic kiln]

i started with 7k in a stadium match somehow

i backfilled right before character select finished

we still got 0-3'd

[fallow socket]

well the torb soj fever is already over it seems

[winter basalt]

mhm, forgot that Busan was added to the maps in stadium and I’ve only had just 2 games on it so far.

[acoustic kiln]

i think its a little too large compared to the other control maps in stadium

but i love it honestly

[winter basalt]

Yeah for sure especially compared to the other control maps in the map pool. I thought they would have added maybe another payload race map just because we only have 2 currently but another control map is fine.

[acoustic kiln]

i would KILL to see a dorado payload race added

it would be hella cool if they added maps based off which characters were getting added in that season

like a horizon lunar colony inspired map with wrecking ball

[steep grotto]

Speaking of torb. Has anyone seen the bug with his Magmini power?

It says it does 66% molten core duration and damage after using overclock but when it bounces off walls and heroes it does normal ult damage and last the full time of ult.

[unkempt vine]

idk what the fuss is about torb being strong in stadium? hes so weak imo

[winter basalt]

That would be cool because we got the desert vibe with powder keg and also a night time vibe with Thames so a new payload race map like dorado would be awesome. Even the linear colony one too

[acoustic kiln]

turret build is lowkey bad n his hammer build is decent

def doesnt compare to soj or haz

he is fun tho

[tepid finch]

in my 50 matches I haven't seen a single sojourn pick anything other than the same 4 powers

like are you kidding me

[unkempt vine]

debateable, maybe im just not a torb player ever tried him multiple times different builds doesnt seem to scratch an itch in stadium

but yeah the turrets just get decimated instantly

[steep grotto]

I don't complain about that. I complain that is an actual bug xd

[humble steppe]

they need to buff the economy, so hard to get a full build now

[neon galleon]

Broken as in overpowered or broken as in its bugged?

[past frost]

why have you played 50 matches already

go seek help

[paper mantle]

OP

like, if you don't have very high burst damage and i have discord on you you can't kill me

it effectively reduces damage by 50% in this context

while i lifesteal 35% of the damage i do or more

[neon galleon]

Until the diver attempting to kill you decides to buy the portable Suzu and now they can get rid of that effective damage reduction in a heartbeat

[paper mantle]

and i can use gadgets to prevent dives, moot point

[neon galleon]

..let me put this in a way that makes what my point was trying to be with it more clear: that power sounds like it’s more of a noob stomper than anything else. Yeah if you’re fighting someone that doesn’t know how to deal with Discord Orb you’re damn near immortal. But if you fight a diver that knows what they’re doing and more specifically knows what they’re doing against Zen, that power can quickly become moot.

Plus I imagine a lot of people are gonna buy that gadget, even non divers cause having a pocket Suzu you can pop at anytime is really nice.

[paper mantle]

you can say that for any broken ability that was eventually taken out of the game
there's counters for everything in regular overwatch, doesn't make some of them any less busted

[turbid skiff]

Guys what's the best dps in stadium

[paper mantle]

Sojourn and Tracer if you have good aim

[manic mirage]

this gadget is actually so good on rein

ONLY for the buffs though

the reduced damage i don't really care about

i buy this and don't use it and it just works

[paper mantle]

if it's the stats you want Phantasmic Flux is just better
https://overwatch.fandom.com/wiki/Stadium/Items#Phantasmic_Flux

[mighty perch]

NERF MOIRA TO THE GROUND

MAKE HER UNPLAYABLE

maybe then people will stop picking her with dive tanks

[scarlet bronze]

no she's alr shit and they still pick her rain or shine

[proven knot]

she’s good in stadium

[mighty perch]

i think she's fine if your tank is like

reinhardt or junker queen

but it's hazard meta right now so moira needs to DIE

[scarlet bronze]

yeah im never touching that mode

[proven knot]

ya dont

[scarlet bronze]

if that is the case

[proven knot]

it blows rn with bo5

[mighty perch]

dude look at the chat you're in

i get it though genji player

[proven knot]

im done with the mode too

[scarlet bronze]

huh

[mighty perch]

genji is actually good against moira in stadium

[scarlet bronze]

oh cool

i just figured moira could never possibly be good

wtf had to go wrong

[mighty perch]

the hero plays itself

[proven knot]

ok so imagine if moira orbs applied antiheal and slowed you in base game

sounds good right?

[scarlet bronze]

well it's stadium everything is busted

[mighty perch]

and did twice the damage they usually do and she could throw both damage orbs and heal orbs at the same time

[proven knot]

not rly

everything is stronger sure

[mighty perch]

even stadium can't save juno from being weak

[proven knot]

makes sense

her ult is way worse there

[final tundra]

Do people think hazard is in need of like an immediate hotfix?

Ive played him all of today and he feels

waaaay too strong

10k dmg in like the second round in just pumping spike build

[spring thicket]

yeah, soj too

they need to nerf the charge power

[mighty perch]

absolutely

sojourn is fine to me tbh haven't faced her much and she was never oppressive

[spring thicket]

wc

[paper mantle]

a Sojourn who knows how to aim will make you cry irl

[shadow fjord]

soj can hurt real bad, but like... an ashe or a tracer with the same skill to make them hurt will hurt about as bad... she can shut down a lobby but the player has to be alot better than the lobby for it to happen fully

[sudden bridge]

No hazard is pretty broken

[proven knot]

I meant not everything is busted

[sudden bridge]

Like if you have no idea how to play him he’s tolerable but if you have any brain cells whatsoever

[proven knot]

haz is tho yes

[shadow fjord]

not even sure how to deal with hazard atm... hes a big overly strong from what i've seen... but also i could just be going about it wrong

[sudden bridge]

You out range him

But if your in his effective range you don’t

[proven knot]

what role

[shadow fjord]

i mean i'm usually playing moira so i'm not like.. dying to him

[sudden bridge]

Role doesn’t matter he one shots dps and supports

[shadow fjord]

i'm just struggling to carry harder in some fo the games

[proven knot]

try Zen. He should be good into haz

[sudden bridge]

How would zen be good he one shots zen

[shadow fjord]

i'm usually watching my team die to him when he's a problem more than i'm losing the fights to him regularly... because moira is just hard to kill

[proven knot]

Haz can 1 shot something with 400hp?

[shadow fjord]

tankyatta is fun

[sudden bridge]

Yeah just about with the combo

[proven knot]

besides do you have a better idea?

[sudden bridge]

At worse it’s 2 shots

[proven knot]

“just lose” isnt productive

[shadow fjord]

you could probably skill dodge parts of his combo with the dive kick

[sudden bridge]

Yeah you don’t you nerf the character

I asked my buddy a masters zen how to handle him in regular comp once

[proven knot]

reg comp is different

[shadow fjord]

yeah regular comp is wildly different with how you play most characters i feel

[sudden bridge]

Right this is even worse

Hazard can always 2 tap you. If he lost even a single fight to you he was worthless bronze trash.

[proven knot]

Zen plays so different

[shadow fjord]

stadium enables some really silly playstyles

[sudden bridge]

Your not building anything on zen saving you from a close range hazard

Unless you give up all dmg whatsoever

And at long range he isn’t a problem to begin with

[shadow fjord]

which is a fine way to build if you lean into other stuff tbh

[proven knot]

Thing about Zen is because of discord building bulk is actually viable

you still do good damage

[sudden bridge]

Which doesn’t matter because he can still two tap you

[shadow fjord]

tank support builds are kind of silly with how much self sustain they have

[sudden bridge]

Like I don’t think you understand how being two tapped works but your dead before you can do anything

[shadow fjord]

even some ap builds like moira can make so you need to 1 tap her or you'll just keep tapping

and hazard can't 1 tap full build ap moira

[sudden bridge]

Like sure you can ult when he jumps you

[proven knot]

I just find it hard to believe that Haz is just free to farm tank Zen uncontested all game

[shadow fjord]

honestly melee tankyatta might be able to punch hazard off himself if it wasn't a true 1v1

[sudden bridge]

It can’t no already tried

[shadow fjord]

not even with the new boop item? if figured that would enable boops into dive kicks for melee yatta

[sudden bridge]

The smartest pick would probably be a flying mercy and avoiding him

[proven knot]

What about using kick to get away from Haz?

mobility cd

[shadow fjord]

he can't really kill moira and moira can just walk past him and kill his back line late game... the real probablem is not letting him win the game before that

[sudden bridge]

With that maybe depends how the hazard builds

Keep in minds hazard is going to basically always have a healer on him

So like sure in some one off scenario you might theoretically pull it off

[shadow fjord]

yeah if you're support you're not fighting the hazard really.. you should be free farming the dps or bullying his whole backline away so your tanks and dps can clean up haz

its like dva, just walk past her

[sudden bridge]

Keep in mind hazard can just stall and leap away as well

[shadow fjord]

yeah and you can bully the back line away and get out of there with alot of supports if he gets out before you kill any

but alot of dps will just lose a fight to a support unless they are super fed

[sudden bridge]

He’s just straight busted atm

[shadow fjord]

he's overly strong but not an instant loss tbh

[proven knot]

he is

[sudden bridge]

Like I’ve seen some busted stuff in stadium he’s leaps and bounds better

I’d rather face the old phara

[shadow fjord]

current phara just dies alot

[sudden bridge]

Roadhog will be a problem if they don’t learn from hazard

[shadow fjord]

i think support torb that goes full weapon damage will start to show up more but maybe thats just a personal build i like the most

[sudden bridge]

Probably his second best build

[shadow fjord]

i can't see how it gets better if you're good at dinking heads with cheetos

[sudden bridge]

If you can aim his base gun is probably the best

[shadow fjord]

he's the only dps i can aim with lol

well hanzo too i guess but i haven't played him in a long time

[sudden bridge]

The problem with rolling gun torb is why would you

[proven knot]

Anyways I think Zen has the most potential here. I do think at the end of the day though Hazard could win still

[shadow fjord]

i don't actually understand turret placement... i use the turret to get whoever i'm fighting to shoot at it, because i'm the more valuable and reliable source of damage

[sudden bridge]

Zen probably has the most potential from a kill the tank standpoint

[shadow fjord]

anas can enable some silly stuff against tanks

[proven knot]

like vs Zen Haz shouldn’t be able to ignorantly engage

[sudden bridge]

Problem is discord has a cool down

[proven knot]

better not get it baited

[sudden bridge]

So unless it’s a bronze hazard you bait that before engage.

[proven knot]

yeah im not discording unless he commits

[shadow fjord]

it also depends on the other support, like if the zen gets dove there are a few supports (and even some dps) that can burst heal him before he gets finished

[sudden bridge]

Yeah I mean every support has something to not instantly die pretty much

Problem is if that’s on CD

It’s basically a gg

[shadow fjord]

kind of why i said some, only some builds and some supports can go nearly full uptime mode

[proven knot]

Anyways here’s my idea. Zen self heal orb -> kick power

[sudden bridge]

Like if your on certain dps your basically just boned

[proven knot]

build a good amount of sustain

[shadow fjord]

does discord orb trigger the ap item that regens armor on skill use?

[proven knot]

No

Oh Kick might tho

[shadow fjord]

figured, lol i never put it on him and tested it tho

oh yeah kick probably would

because its like a legit cd

[proven knot]

yup

[sudden bridge]

Yes

Although hazard can do 300 hp a shot

[proven knot]

It got changed?

It didn’t last time I tested

[nocturne sandal]

Just a quick PSA
you're putting yourself at a disadvantage if you play stadium in first person
The hitbox of your bullets do 2 checks in third person
1 if your crosshair is ON an enemy
2nd is if your bullets will hit a wall

If you were aiming near wall, but your crosshair is on an enemy on certain angles, then you would then hit your opponent instead.

[proven knot]

im gonna keep 1st person on in stadium forever

[shadow fjord]

whenever i try third person i miss more and die alot... i'll take the disadvantage tbh

[sudden bridge]

Wait I was thinking something else no it doesnt

[sudden bridge]

Play it for as many hours as you have in first person and I’m guessing that would correct itself

[shadow fjord]

like i stop being able to dodge shots in first person... if a junk is spamming its easy to walk through in first person... 3rd? i'm just dead

[nocturne sandal]

Thats very understandable, for me it's the opposite.

[shadow fjord]

see you in 10 years

[proven knot]

nah it doesnt take that long

[sudden bridge]

I’m sure overwatch 3 will be around

[shadow fjord]

3rd def has upsides to it, but i think for alot of people they'll do worse since they have spent so much time learning the game in first, i'm def 1 of those people

[nocturne sandal]

You sure? It would be easier to see shots behind you in third person

Also cushioned padding is a good item to counter junkrat's power that sets people on fire btw

[shadow fjord]

all my practice dodging shots has been in first person over the actual decades at this point lol, i find it easier to visualize a hitbox around the camera over an off angle 3rd person model

[nocturne sandal]

just putting that out there for no reason at all

[nocturne sandal]

Understandable 🙏🏾

[shadow fjord]

rivals made me a little better at third person shooter stuff with a mouse but i stopped playing it a while ago

[nocturne sandal]

I can't even play rivals because my computer graphics card isn't good enough 🥀 💔

[paper mantle]

the main thing is you can see people in 3rd person that can't see you in 1st

[shadow fjord]

lol mine is just barely good enough, but honestly they just... change things all the time for the sake of changing them, or because they listen to the players who have no clue what they actually want

[shadow fjord]

which is mostly a problem when facing zen and sig tbh, because the footstep sounds are at least pretty good

because people sound different when stomping around you can even pre aim off the sound

[paper mantle]

footsteps aren't really a factor crossmap

but vision absolutely is

[shadow fjord]

honestly in stadium maps thats less of an issue usually

and even in high ranks in stadium its not like people work together to that degree... like it does help but its not gonna win a game that was lost i guess is what i'm saying

[fallow socket]

seeing somebody in advance can def make round winning plays tho and rounds add up to wins

[shadow fjord]

kind of? theres so many "your play does nothing" buttons and the maps are so small theres not that much neutral to set up things like that

[paper mantle]

you can have a full energy Soj on maps like Ilios stand behind cover while seeing you come in, peek and instantly 1shot you

it's a pretty big advantage

[acoustic kiln]

a mercy pocketed sojourn that can aim is like

near unstoppable

[acoustic kiln]

im ngl i cant play mercy in 3rd person anymore

it messes up my movement

[shadow fjord]

if someone is so good and fed they are constantly hitting you from across the map and you're walking out the same ways over and over... 3rd person isn't gonna change the outcome either way lol

thats just a lost game

like i'm not saying that third person is somehow worse or that it doesn't give some small advantages... but what it does give is rarely impactful enough to swing a game one way or the other when compared to all the other factors that go into winning or losing

[nocturne sandal]

more scams yum yum yum

[paper mantle]

bruh lol

3rd person is a pretty significant advantage
that's just how it is

you can see more than in 1st person, it's inherently better

[naive moat]

3rd person feels terrible to use tho i wont lie

[paper mantle]

yeah but you just not used to it

i can't stand it either, but i've seen what people can do to me when they see me and i don't

[sudden bridge]

heh round one made 23k pretty decent

[naive moat]

i used it a lot when stadium released and i use it for dvas tokki slam build so im pretty used to it but it still just feels bad to use

esp on mercy

[vital tulip]

Not gonna lie it's actually making me angry that I can't queue with my friends in comp stadium because of delta between my "ranking" and theirs but I can still get paired with and go against other players that are even further apart than myself and my friend. Why is this system even implemented?

[naive moat]

i can tolerate it on orisa but only if i’m doing her deflect build

[fallow socket]

im tired of winston

remove this character

[craggy sentinel]

you can have a full energy Soj on maps like Ilios stand behind cover while seeing you come in, peek and instantly 1shot you

[sudden bridge]

Probably so your less likely to ruin the lobby I mean like say your legend and your friend was last season but now he’s novice it’s going to really mess the lobby

Like if you solo in like it’s going to at least try a bit better since it still does technically have matching it’s just bad

On the bright side it shouldn’t take your friends very long to rank up and lower ranks don’t even go down

Also unless you ranked every role up already you should be able to still play

I usually leave my tank role untouched to play with friends and right now with hazard it’s like an auto win for them

[vital tulip]

But then I still get novice people on my team anyway or on the enemy team. If a stack of 3 legend players have the chance to ruin a lobby then why can I get put into a lobby with 2 legend playrs a pro 3 novice 1 and elite 2?

[sudden bridge]

Well the system isn’t good in general but allowing the grouping just makes it even worse like s1

But I mean if you already grinded all roles to the ranks you can’t play then you’ve played a ton of this game

[scarlet bronze]

The grouping restrictions make no sense when the ranks are js progression and mm is entirely based on hidden mmr

[vital tulip]

Eh I'm Pro 1 on tank atm with 5 hours played. Like I can play other roles it's just annoying that matchmaking doesn't take these ranks into account yet it will restrict grouping while also still allowing the same situations it might aim to resolve. I think part of my frustration too is that tmk there hasn't been a word from the devs on like The Goals of this game-mode are

[scarlet bronze]

the goals are go on a power trip, realize the mode is shit, leave, come back to go on a power trip

[vital tulip]

Like if they wanna be giga-casual about it why have a "ranked" mode to begin with? If they want to encourage depth of builds and diversity then people with low game-time/knowledge aren't the target audience to begin with

[vital tulip]

also less of an issue with just 2 people but like trying if you get a good group that you vibe with and are all spread out then you all get kinda goofed out of playing those rolls.

[inland quiver]

V190Z6 <- the OT touches of this game was insane by my team, i have no idea if they will see this but good shit yall sry i had no comms

[main jungle]

Guys, I think Lucio might be the new best burst healer in the game. Mixtape is actually insane

[fallow socket]

rat ana build you can run into backline and kill people and never die

[fallow socket]

wow we are in hell

[paper mantle]

that is compounding the problem even more imo

[dense goblet]

well that's stupid...... they just need to reverse it back to BO7

[finite dock]

I want them to take risks and try something

Not to absolutely reverse

[boreal ruin]

Well that's just a terrible way to see it

BO5 will never be good for comp

[finite dock]

Not at all

If you don't try anything you won't move forward

They probably have a vision for the mode

So no it's not a terrible way to see it

And I'm a huge fan of Stadium

You want them to be safe too much which is not good

BO5 is not even bad

[paper mantle]

game devs are incredibly hard-headed about admitting an idea of theirs is bad

[naive moat]

this is all i wanted lmao now bo5 will feel better

seriously if they wanted to keep bo5 they just need to increase the cash gain and they did

[woven geyser]

thank god hazard just never fucking dies

almost had fun

[naive moat]

just went against a hazard that never died

why the fuck did they add him

he did actually die a few times but i swear it felt like he never dies

and now this pharah with a mercy pocket wont fuck off

[main jungle]

Yeah, I was really against it at first, but the more I play the more I think it's not that big of a deal. Plus queue times haven't been horrible this season which is really nice

[void widget]

im having so much fucking fun on hazard

holy shit

hes actually insane

ive never even played him before he came out in stadium

and im putting up crazy DUBS

[naive moat]

haz is genuinely insane in stadium i wont be surprised if he gets nerfed at some point

just had one that went 36-0

[void widget]

yea he def gotta get nerfed

even tho im having crazy fun i can see it for what it is

but i lowk hope he doesnt

but i lowk hope he does

[naive moat]

my 0-3 genji saying gg at the end of the first round

ok

[paper mantle]

ya he's crazy

so is Soj if you have good aim

[minor linden]

Do people like the draft? What’s wrong with just picking blind?

[paper mantle]

i don't need it, i think it's a waste of time, but i don't care all that much as long as i can play the character i want to play

[quiet trellis]

bro what is up with the stadium reset

im playing with the most atrocious players ever

the orisa was legit a wall the guy could only move or stand still and shoot

[minor linden]

Ig I could look at it that way.

[finite dock]

Draft is great

[minor linden]

What’s your reasoning?

I’d prefer to have balanced characters that I can choose blind rather than having to choose my team based on the other teams comp.

Sn: I’m loving the little numbers when you hit a target.

[finite dock]

Blind pick isn't good when you cannot switch a hero during the game

I basically hated blind pick in LoL and draft was literally the best thing they added to ranked and even in normal

[naive moat]

went against the most annoying haz and soj with a mercy pocket while playing mei

still won the game 🤫

[main jungle]

I hope haz gets nerfed in some way but I do really enjoy bunny hop. Getting to jump around every three seconds feels great even if it means losing the slash

[paper mantle]

blind pick would be good with the proper items to prevent unwinnable matchups

[naive moat]

ok lowkey mei isnt as bad as i thought

i made a build for her and its been working pretty well besides going against pharmercy or something

[main jungle]

Yeah, Mei's always been a solid high B tier, and she doesn't really get touched each patch

[naive moat]

i always thought she was kinda bad cause the only builds i saw for her on stadiumbuilds was just the same mega tanky build

like

its ALL the same for her

[paper mantle]

the only thing i hate is Mei's cryoball, you can't stop it, you can't do anything about it, you have to have a movement ability
otherwise you just have to take it for 8+ seconds

[naive moat]

yeah cryoball can be annoying but its not rlly my playstyle for her

this is the build i made for her

cant rlly get all of it because of bo5 but i can usually get 4 purples and that works

[boreal ruin]

I've already explained why i stand by it, im not wasting my time explaining it a third time

It doesnt have to do with that at all.

[boreal ruin]

You should try full stall mei

Works wonders really.

[naive moat]

dont rlly like it ive tried it before

[paper mantle]

cryoball just seems amazing in any circumstance

there isn't a situation where cryoball isn't strictly better than cryofreeze

it's an insanely good escape tool, in addition to being able to kill people with it

[craggy sentinel]

The grouping restrictions make no sense when the ranks are js progression and mm is entirely based on hidden mmr

[upper mulch]

Genuine question do y'all use gadgets

I haven't used a single one is any build I've mad

[winter basalt]

I’ve only used the gadget that gives you overhealth for a few seconds but other than that I haven’t used any other gadgets. I’m so used to using the up d pad button for my sprays but that’s now the gadget button.

[dense goblet]

nope, games are too short anyway to even consider them

[fallow socket]

ive taken exo boots for high ground on some chars

and also the soldier biotic heal occasionally.. mainly just for 25 armor and 5 wp lol

some of the epic gadgets are def game changers for tanks like kitsune charm

[twilit vine]

why did they make comp stadium short??

[supple fulcrum]

You should try full stall mei

[proven charm]

its ALL the same for her

[paper mantle]

wtf are these bots who copy/paste other people's comments

@jaunty gulch

[neon galleon]

they were made on the same damn day too

[boreal ruin]

they just love me

they need to try replicate me

im just objectively perfect you see..

https://tenor.com/view/limbus-company-limbus-don-quixote-don-yapping-gif-14228003647965206973

[scarlet bronze]

real and true

[main jungle]

The dash is really solid on torb and maybe even sig and orisa, but the rare tier one is not worth considering since it's a 20 second cool down. Any character who gets value out of TTT or Mark of the Kitsune can use them pretty well though

[winter basalt]

Which heroes did y’all play alot of when stadium was first introduced? I mainly played DVA, Moira and Soldier

[main jungle]

Mostly Mercy, Lucio, and Zarya

[acoustic kiln]

mercy, moira and juno for the most part

[winter basalt]

Oh yeah, all great heroes mentioned though. I watched a few videos explaining all the powers and abilities but before then I’d only prioritise builds with either lots of health or lots of weapon power only 💀💀

[fallow socket]

juno was broken back then , I abused her for legend twice

also a ton of reaper and mercy

LOL and old coulder was so gold too

[hallow fog]

broGG we lost one of the stadium devs

[winter basalt]

oh yeah for sure and I played Juno a few times when stadium was first released and I really like the double pulsar Power. I have like 2 or 3 builds for all the heroes I play nowadays.

[finite dock]

Well this is a terrible way to see it

[finite dock]

It does

You don’t want them to try something

[boreal ruin]

???????????????

What are you babbling about?

I just said the format is objectively worse, not that its unplayable

Nor bad

Its just much worse

Just because they try it doesnt mean its a right choice

[finite dock]

[boreal ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/punch-you-punch-in-face-punch-camera-stfu-slap-head-gif-25066648

[humble steppe]

being against a bad decision doesnt mean that u dont want them to try something

[grand vortex]

i really want to play stadium because it looks so fun but whenever i play it i alwasy get matched with players so damn over my skill level (both in mine and enemy's team) that i always feel so bad

[boreal ruin]

Its not the skill level

Its the builds

99% trust me.

[grand vortex]

could be i guess

[paper mantle]

building correctly is a skill

[boreal ruin]

Playing the build correctly and maximizing it is 90% of said skill, 10% is building it

[vapid stone]

Can I get the money changes in quickplay stadium too?

They seem really nice but i truly am completely uninterested in ranked anything

[naive moat]

qp already has the money changes

ranked and qp are equal now i think

[vapid stone]

They are? Huh

[naive moat]

yes

[scarlet bronze]

what are money changes

[livid marsh]

💅

[naive moat]

now bo5 feels good

and i can actually get 4 purples minimum at round 5

[scarlet bronze]

oh

so late game heroes are js

busted

[naive moat]

yeah

[grand vortex]

oh bots in custom stadium games work now

[paper mantle]

i need a stadium practice range where i can give dummy characters powers and items

[compact flare]

it is just me, or sojourn auto aim is kinda bad?

it feels like the range on that is really short

it doesn't select correctly when the enemy is really far away, which is an issue against mercy

Soldier 76 auto aim is waaay better

[acoustic kiln]

good

auto aim is cancer

[scarlet bronze]

fax

[boreal ruin]

why would you even use that

its ass

you can get projectile speed from shooting your railgun anyway

[nocturne sandal]

Honestly any auto aim ability in stadium is a throw pick

[boreal ruin]

disagree, big on pharah

[nocturne sandal]

I gorfot abt her

Anything else tho

is bad

maybe soldier is a little good

actually maybe not..

[boreal ruin]

i find more success with a hyperjuiced rocket build + field on damage

but it is a fun brain off delete people build

but the double dipping into aoe + heal on AP is so good

[median rover]

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[paper mantle]

no they're factually right
if you can't aim pick characters you don't need to aim with

auto-aim should not exist

[grand grotto]

What if ow1 brig was in stadium

[paper mantle]

what about it

[boreal ruin]

an autoaimed direct hit is insane for pharah's perks and powers

especially with the triple

[paper mantle]

oh wait they said throw pick, that's not what i thought i read

but they shouldn't be in stadium, or anywhere for that matter

[compact flare]

yeah, I noticed it later.
but it might actually be decent if it had a longer range to select a target...

also, extra health soldier 76 is so fun hahahaha

I tanked a JQ at melee for like 20 seconds with it

[fallow socket]

all fun and games until she rampages

[main jungle]

The issue with soj auto aim is that your primary doesn't really matter when you have a one shot every second during ult anyway and you can make it the size of a small house with the right power

I just saw Soj has a melee item. I will now be trying melee Sojurn to tick another melee build off my list

[paper mantle]

yeah it's definitely a bronze-help power
good players are never going to use it

[boreal ruin]

you're wrong

i have mastered the fortnite slidekicking art

i WILL carry with that

[main jungle]

You can kinda juggle people, it's peak

Plus you can reposition mid slide with the dash gadget

[boreal ruin]

does it move you sideways or

otherwise just reposition w slide itself

[main jungle]

Sideways, yeah

Probably not worth 9000 credits but it's definitely fun, since her melee build doesn't seem super credit intensive

[boreal ruin]

survival builds with displacement powers is so funny tbh

id lowkey wanna try a slide soj

[main jungle]

So, turns out melee sojourn is bad. Crazy. She just doesn't have enough HP to make it work, especially in this meta where there's a hazard around every corner who, at best, ignore you and at worst explode you for trying to get within 5 ft of them

[primal phoenix]

Hey guys I’m debating whether or not stadium competitive is worth it, I’ve had such a bad time getting blamed and harassed by toxic teams. Am I overreacting?

[main jungle]

It's very fun, but you need to know the meta well and understand how to build properly. I see so many people new to stadium take epics round 2 and have no stats it's crazy

[primal phoenix]

How do I get back into it with a positive mindset? I’m pretty frustrated with my builds and the way teams blame me.

[main jungle]

There's always casual to learn the ropes, stadiumbuilds.io is a decent resource too

The biggest thing is understanding how the rarities scale, with commons providing the best stat to credit ratio but little utility while epics provide a lot of utility but not much stats for the cost, so it's usually best to fill out as many slots with relevant items as possible instead of buying one or two epics

Like, 10% AP for 1000 compared to 35% for 14000

[inland quiver]

If its ur team flaming u that is fixable by muting team chat

So u can avoid getting frustrated

[coarse arch]

i mute chat like crazy

there's no point to engage as it is unenjoyable

turning off text chat and/or comms is easy

it also helps to keep focus without the distraction

[paper mantle]

i'm talking about Soj ult auto-aim

[hot chasm]

how's everyone feeling about the comp change to 5 rounds? just curious

[empty hazel]

Wsp femboys

[paper mantle]

nobody* likes it

[hot chasm]

ok thank god im not the only one who feels like that

[paper mantle]

i'd rather go back to 7 rounds, but with powers on round 1-2-3-5

the powers early are perfect

[acoustic kiln]

im fine with it

i do think being first to 3 makes it harder for late game comebacks

but im not against 5 rounds either

[livid marsh]

i usually make my builds based on blues and purples and powers for round 1 and 2 are real nice

i like how much faster it is, like qp

[fallow socket]

i dislike it. we already had stadium qp and comp separate. if i wanted to get super strong super fast and just mindlessly kill things id play qp. everything was better and more strategic in 7 rounds and thats how it should be for the comp mode. Counter building and watching it pay off. Build pivoting. Etc

[fallow socket]

this wasnt updated to include gadgets

well i dont think anyone buys this anyways..

[boreal ruin]

“reload speed”
look inside
100% reload on ability

[proven knot]

maybe if the primary effect wasn’t on reload speed

[fallow socket]

well yea the item is kinda shite.. pretty sure it only exists for the fireworks power

if gadgets were included then could be able to spam firework kunai a tiny bit more

[livid marsh]

maybe i just got lucky with this stupid ass build lol

[craggy sentinel]

an autoaimed direct hit is insane for pharah's perks and powers
especially with the triple

[livid marsh]

you know, i think torb just sucks honestly lol

[fallow socket]

what

[livid marsh]

eh, i dont think triple volley is THAT strong

[main jungle]

His best build is hammer, you just need a brawly comp to take advantage of dwarlord

[livid marsh]

i hate how its either that or being a support lol

like the turrets aint shit thats for sure

[main jungle]

I dunno, giving people two 100+ hp armor packs, a ton of overheal, having 700+ HP and still doing good damage is pretty nice

[forest coral]

I like ryota’s reloader when I play foxy fireworks but it would be nice if it was either cheaper or had another effect of like 5% wp or 25 hp

in bo5 it feels really hard to justify ryota’s since usually you want your first purple or two to jack up your stats

[supple fulcrum]

yeah it's definitely a bronze-help power

[proven charm]

otherwise just reposition w slide itself

[modern hawk]

i feel like they should add mit as a reward for cash

i got like 22k mit on brig once and it didnt give me anytrhing for it

[coarse arch]

stadium really is way too fast now

[main jungle]

No, you shouldn't reward the Reinhart for holding down m2. Your reward for high mitigation is that it reduces the income the enemy team gets since damage to shields or over health doesn't give stadium cash

It's the same reason why mitigation doesn't give ult charge

[modern hawk]

okay but ana for example can get like the same amount of mit as their heals

and they get nothing for it

it makes some builds feel useless

like whats the point of building for your rein shield if there is no reward

[main jungle]

Mitigation is inherently powerful because it denies cash and ult economy. If it also gave cash it would be broken

[modern hawk]

its still just not fun to use

well it is

[main jungle]

Denying ult? Not dying? In reins case specifically, To Me, My Friends which heals your team. Also, if it gave cash, Radio edit (Lucio's mini ult) would be meta, and nobody wants that

[modern hawk]

but like it doesnt feel as helpful as just ability power

[modern hawk]

okay but there would still be counter play

its like zarya bubble

just dont shoot at it or somerhting

[main jungle]

Zarya bubble has a time limit and if the Zarya misuses them, she doesn't get rewarded for it. Not to mention Brig does NOT need the help, just because she isnt Mercy or Kiri doesn't mean she needs to be buffed to the same level, those two are just Blizzards special children and stay at SS tier

[modern hawk]

idk i feel like its just one of those things u do even if it sounds insane

like 22k mit with no reward is so weird to me

[main jungle]

It also tends to be better game design to reward aggressive, proactive play. Mitigation giving cash would lead to stall fests and Orisas with 70k cash at round 3

[modern hawk]

also anas power where it applies overhealth equal to 200% of the nades healing is really helpful

but it doesnt feel rewarding like i said

[main jungle]

Then don't take it? Ana has plenty of other powers that are just as if not more viable

[modern hawk]

that shouldnt ever exist in any video game though

like i shouldnt just not take it

there should be work arounds not limits

[main jungle]

The point of stadium is to provide a variety of options for a variety of players, if your team not dying doesn't feel rewarding to you, then don't build mitigation. I don't think holding down m1 is rewarding, so I don't play 76, doesn't mean there aren't 70000 braindead aimbot 76's running around because they can't aim. The work around is taking other powers

[modern hawk]

okay but u just contradicted yourself in the first sentence

there should be variety

like mit builds

and if u run full mitigation builds

where is your cash

[modern hawk]

sure its not that skillful

but neither is soldier's auto aim power

or sojourn's

neither is brigs whipshot size increase

i think its very known that stadium is dumbing down it's characters

so why not make mit count for cash

[main jungle]

Brother. The point of mitigation is DENIAL. You DENY damage instead of doing it. You DENY ult charge instead of generating it. You DENY CASH instead of making it

Just because the impact isn't shown on the scoreboard doesn't mean it isn't there

[modern hawk]

okay but why shouldnt it be shown

[main jungle]

Because it's already there!

[modern hawk]

but its not

if it were shown then it would reward u

if its important enough to be on the scoreboard

then why shouldnt u get cash for it

[main jungle]

For the same reason it doesn't make ult charge, it would over-reward stall since mitigation is already powerful without generating cash

[modern hawk]

ults are very powerful so it makes sense

there are only like a few game breaking items

[acoustic kiln]

i love holding left click all game and winning

[main jungle]

I'm saying that if you don't find mitigation rewarding, there are others who do despite it not making cash. If you don't find it rewarding you don't need to play it. Hell, I main a mitigation based build with my Dwarlord Armor Pack Torb build and I get plenty of cash since I keep my team alive and can keep momentum despite the mitigation itself not making cash. Stats yell, but actual impact whispers and if all you care about is cash and stats then you fundamentally don't understand what makes the game tick

[main jungle]

So true bestie

[acoustic kiln]

unrelated to the currect conversation but

i actually need hazard to get nerfed next patch

[modern hawk]

i never said all i cared about was stats or cash ;-; all i said was that mit should count for cash

[fallow socket]

ap hazard needs to be removed

[acoustic kiln]

i should NOT be able to roll a lobby with a character i had 0 hours on

the wall build oneshots squishies and the spikes build deletes everything in front of him

[main jungle]

Yeah, it doesn't help that they staple AP life steal to just about every item that's half decent

[acoustic kiln]

i do think that would grossly unbalance the economy

[fallow socket]

brig ana 100k round 3

[acoustic kiln]

some tanks already make hella money like crazy

[modern hawk]

it doesnt fix the fact that it feels like doodoo to play

[coarse arch]

i basically play JQ every match

i like the match ups

[carmine garden]

does anyone have a decent lucio build with like STUPID mobility (like the soundwave knockback item and the double jump one ykyk)

i'm like kinda stupid so idrk if anything i'd make would be good (Nvm i've made the funnest build oat ✌️🥹 )

[main jungle]

I wouldn't recommend most of them, but if your hearts set on it, take mixtape and No. 1 Single. Mixtape lets you stay in speed while only occasionally swapping for big burst heals and No. 1 Single synergizes with Mixtape AND the one that heals when you deal weapon damage AND the one that heals when you boop, letting you keep buffing your team while you're flying across the map

[carmine garden]

yesyes i go mixtape as my first power it's rlly good

then radio edit and vivace

and for the last one i usually go beat drop because it's funny when i hit it (i haven't hit it yet)

[main jungle]

Radio edit? Huh. I don't use it because it hurts your mobility, forcing you to touch the ground, but if it works it works. Also yeah, feel you there on beat drop

Or is radio edit the Crossfade size?

For fourth though, you could go for double boop instead of beat drop for bigger burst movement or take speed runner to give a big damage buff, then you can take vanadium injector for a sweet all stats up which includes a 10% speed buff

[carmine garden]

it's the mini ult yeah

as long as i have lofly beats and hip hop the build works pretty well imo

[boreal ruin]

They have to train AI on the best model available, nothing's better than perfection.

[carmine garden]

alr i'm trying double boop

[boreal ruin]

I js lowkey like going heal on primary and melee power, then the healing on boop and just slap together a hybrid build with powers and stats leaning more towards which i need more, works wonders for me

Its infinite healing and free utility

I've gone round 1s with 6-7k+ heals

[carmine garden]

i go with like

max annoyance

and heals

that's why i have vivace and uh the other stuff

[main jungle]

With how broken Haz is right now, I go mixtape to just speed him around and burst heals between his blocks

[carmine garden]

yeah that's fair honestly

[boreal ruin]

can we all just agree the mini ult on amp power is shit

[carmine garden]

i have no issues staying alive unless they have autotracking with like 90% ability power

[carmine garden]

i don't really mind it

it's decent if i just used my burst heal and my tanks abt to die or sumn yk?

[boreal ruin]

the fact it doesnt start amp until you land beat is terrible imo

[main jungle]

Yeah, having to land and not being able to shoot really hurts it, I wish it just gave the overhealth instead of having to do the animation

[carmine garden]

oh wait that's how it works? 😭

[main jungle]

Not like the 30 extra damage you could get with beat drop assuming you land it would matteruch

[carmine garden]

i'm stupid

well then what should i switch radio edit for

[boreal ruin]

depends on what your other powers are

[carmine garden]

mixtape, (was radio edit), vivace and reverb in that order

[main jungle]

Fast forward, megaphone, and a personal favorite sleeper pick, wallvibing could all work well with your build

[carmine garden]

lowk the only dmg this build has is like

the boop

because i'm FULL ability power

[carmine garden]

kay i'll try wallvibing

[main jungle]

Vivace gives good dmg, just in the form of attack speed

[carmine garden]

oh word

i don't usually proc it too much because i'm usually like

BASICALLY flying

[main jungle]

Oh, fair, lol

[carmine garden]

if u wanna check like everything i put on it (which prolly won't be 100% accurate) this is the end of the link
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[boreal ruin]

Its procs every time you touch a wall, you dont have to stay on it

[carmine garden]

nono, when i say flying i mean it

i touch a wall like once every 20/30 seconds

it's still pretty good when i don't get a really open map tho

[boreal ruin]

If you want to burst heal during 1v1s you can go for Crowd Pleaser

It's an AP build so the sustain's gonna be higher

[carmine garden]

i'll try it after trying the new modifications out

it's like 150% range right?

or am i confusing it

w something else

[main jungle]

It's the heal after boop

[carmine garden]

o

i'll check it out

[main jungle]

I think the nerfs to the main boop build was the best thing to ever happen to Lucio, tons more build variety. I just hope he gets a small cash buff to make up for it

[carmine garden]

i have no clue what it was

[boreal ruin]

Reverb doesnt give 2 boop charges