#stadium-discussion
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Yeah if we go the different support option, Brig is really scary to Tracer now thanks to the shield bash buff, Zen can make himself pretty hard to kill while keeping his damage up thanks to the self orb and enlightenment, Ana has sleep and nade to try to scare Tracer away or force out recall, and Kiriko has the potential to 2 shot Tracer at base, at least I think kunai headshots are a 2 shot on Tracer.
honestly i think literally any other support works
I mean the only nerf I think Brig got so far is scavenged steel not triggering during Rally anymore and that doesn’t really mess with how strong the item is.
they also nerfed that one item where if u used an ability you would get 25 overhealth
they made it so that it can no longer stack
I mean….that item is kinda a worse version of Aura Farming for Brig-
fair
I think ram should be the next tank in stadium
I agree, I feel like if Doom or Ball get added it could force more players to pick Cass or worse it could make the devs add in Sombra next, and Hog and Mauga could very easily force players to pick Ana. I don’t really see Ram forcing people to play a certain character just in case they have to fight him. Plus I feel Ram would have more potential for interesting powers.
Hog and Doom in particular I feel like either don’t have as much potential in that department or a lot of people would try to get the devs to use it as a chance to add uppercut and pig pen back.
you're thinking like this is normal overwatch
there's plenty of items that control these heroes already, cybervenom being the big one
pharah is absolutely unplayable dogshit in stadium holy mother of fuck
never again
bottom of the barrel character
lrn2play tbh
if that stacked with tracer blinks she'd be unstoppable
i think its between doom and hazard
those were the two tanks that were on the updated roadmap for season 19 and beyond
if i was to guess i'd say bap, sojourn and doom season 19, then wuyang, hanzo, hazard season 20 with echo in the midseason
nah she free as fuck, not one team ive seen do good with her
and they removed her only good power because they couldnt code it properly
lowkey the concussive blast build isnt bad
its ass, in half the maps it boops them into cover unless you're on top of them so they home into walls
the homing missiles should come FROM the blast
skill issue
just me who can’t use tracer in stadium comp?
If they don't get a soldier of ashe you insta win
is tracer not playable in comp or something, she was greyed out as soon as the drafts started
same for me
sounds like my comp games are saved
i had a genji and a tracer spend the entire game trying to kill me
which lead to us winning in 6
tracer is disabled in QP too
not just stadium comp
nah i've diffed them on genji
If your playing phara
I…don’t think cybervenom and the dps passive work against lifesteal?
Im saying i've diffed multiple pharahs as genji no hitscan
you're terrible at ragebait
Cause yeah cybervenom messes with Hog’s heal, and Doom and Ball will hate Liquid Nitrogen, well Ball will, Doom might not care due to how his movement works, but if I’m right in that Cybervenom doesn’t affect lifesteal, Mauga’s overdrive won’t care
They aren’t wrong, I know I suck at Pharah and I still know how dangerous she can be in Stadium. Remember the devs literally had to nerf her mini barrage build and I’d still say it’s strong.
FOR HOW LONG
Welp something done fucking broke with Stadium Quick Play’s backfill system-
Joined a game on round 3 as tank, picked JQ and for some reason my health was stuck at the default health for her and I was completely locked out of armory
i just assume it does, but good point i've never tested it
it's hard to test
i feel that it will
cuz lifesteal is still healing yeah?
Well with quick play and comp stadium being apart of custom games now we can test. I can be Reaper and test how much a base shot in someone’s face will heal me, and then someone can apply Cybervenom to me and then I can fire again
Yes but I’m pretty sure Reaper’s lifesteal isn’t affected by the dps passive so that could translate to Cybervenom not affecting lifesteal either
i hope they continue to treat comp and stadium different
like i dont mind if the characters feel like two different games
i love stadium, but i also dont want to play CounterPick
I like OverWatch, where everyone is equally busted.
right now it just feel like tank gets to pick in 6th place to counter the other tank, and its so lame.
(during drafts)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this, x100000
anything about bad matchups can be solved with powers/items
why is tracer suddenly locked in stadium?
i dunno, maybe they thought she was too busted and needed more than a few adjustments?
either that or there was a severe bug involving her
guys...what is the best build for juno ( your opinion ?)
severe bug, with a power regarding recall you could get the effects from items that you've sold
so having a 1k health tracer at some point with weapon power items is possible
Ee
?
Ew*
anyone know how ability power actually affects nano boost other than the burst heal?
or does it just affect the burst heal?
same with the healing amp from grenade, does ability power affect that?
Apparently, there was a major bug where Recall would make it to where you could sell her items while keeping the stat buffs
AP only affects damage, healing, and overhealth numbers. It does not affect buffs
the only change i'd make is that both tanks are always the last pick and they're both blind picks
idk i think maybe we should just remove drafts. but tanks not counter picking would be great. i just dont see how they can make it work without removing the systrem entirely.
idk i feel like the more they add heroes the more the system is useful
i was playing stadium quick play last night and it was really fun for me to play tracer against mercy zenyatta
what is the best things to build up on ana in stadium
I have a theory I'm not home rn so can someone test it if you go death step build and get the ability item that ability DMG and healing gives you 20% more ult charge does that work with DMG from death step
if you go death step build you're throwing
what does ability power even do for conc blast? lol
oh a direct hit actually does damage, maybe it amplifies that
Is tracer still not enabled?
man pharah's triple volley power isn't even enabled lol
does ap make the radius bigger? does ap do things like that
i dont think so lol
That's too bad haha
i think it increases kb? i remember testing pharah a whiles back, like pre stadium release, and having crazy kb with a full ap build, take this with a mountainload of salt tho
Stadium Competitive is so much harder than Stadium Quick Play
for sure, I had a really bad comp stadium game as Rein and my teammate Cassidy for that game messaged me on Xbox. They were so mad 💀💀
Pretty much regular Mercy, except you grab 2 specific powers, one that gives whoever you’re boosting lifesteal and the other one gives whoever you’re on 10% DR if they at least have 80% of their health.
why tracer is disabled? what happened?
bug
Power supply distortion protective beam. I never take protective beam cause i usually just push damage boost and hope the person im pocketing will kill the enemies before dying or just lifesteal back up, so i wouldnt rlly get the benefit of protective beam
power supply and distortion is a stupid good combo to pocket JQ/moira/reaper/genji tho
and maybe tracer but havent had a game where i pocket tracer yet
You’re telling me people don’t want to face 1600 armor tracers
Basically there is a major bug with Tracer’s recall where it lets you keep the stats from her items after you sell them
So like at round 2 you could have a 2000 hp Tracer
You can still mess with her in the practice range at least
okay thanks
alright thanks
what do u build? weapon power/survivability right
Any update on if Tracer will be added back to stadium today?
^^
you know blizz doesn't communicate
do you guys know if, you dont play stadium until end of season rn and Im at legend rank does it go down with inactivity like Master and GM in comp ?
well this isnt comp, so i would assume no.
but maybe right click on the ranks for comp and stadium to make sure one talks about decay and the other doesnt
no
it won't decay
is juno torpedo build still the way to go? haven’t played stadium in a minute
i believe so
but juno overall just isnt that good this season
she's not bad but she isnt game carrying like brig lucio
Yes thats her only good build
But she was nerfed into the ground so she kinda sucks now
ok thank you
sad to hear ok thanks
so brig is meta?
Yeah winston brig is pretty good
Max ammo rein build is kinda op guys I highly recommend it
Do I need to get to Legend rank 1 to get the legend name card for my profile ? Cause i got to legend rank and didnt have the card
when did you reach legend
if its this season you'll only get it next season
if it was last season, you should have it if you didnt rank down
nope only legend 5
she's great against pharah imo
Oh yes was this season
i hate when i backfill and i cant access the armory
and i cant leave unless i wanna get suspended and lose my endorsement level 5
so should i go for threads of fate instead of protective beam?
U don't keep rank in stadium bro wtf 😭🙏
for last seasons rewards and icons your final rank i think matters
Pls fix tracer in stadium…
20 minute stadium q time is DIOBOLICAL😭😭😭😭
How do I enter codes for stadium builds on PlayStation?
It resets seasonally
Although you basically do since it basically sorts you back to your previous rank instantly.
yes
but you still receive rewards based on your rank
guys, if I get Packstacker and Lindholm Wall, throw out repair pack then hit 3 enemies in 1 shield bash, does this extend the repair pack duration by 1 second or 3 seconds?
i'd think 3
hmm ok
is tracer available yet
no
i dont think sp
so*
guys i had the stupidest mercy on my stadium team once. she maxed out ability damage.
yooooo fix it , im related for one week in this rank
…please tell me she grabbed one of the 2 AP powers
why does tracer get less health from survival items while everyone else gets the regular amount
so she doesn't become an unkillable death machine
i think its only 1
does anyone need an ana/juno/mercy duo in comp for stadium 
does elite 3 not exist why is it elite 4 and then elite 2
matchmaking is messed up
i keep getting newbie teammates in high ranks
this shouldn't be happening
i mean if she has whambulance i don't think it's that much of a throw
bc tracer's tiny hitbox hypermobility and lethality are balanced around her small health pool
if she could negate that weakness by grabbing a few 25 hp items she would be insane
i mean shouldn’t the same apply to kiriko then they have like the same hitbox
kiriko doesnt have 3 burst mobility options and a button that full heals her and puts her in a safe position frame 1
Its weird but when ur in a rank it doesnt say your rank on the left and your progress to the next rank on the right, it has the previous rank on the left and next on the right
so you are elite 3 right now
ohh okay

Anyone know if there was any confirmed characters coming season 19?
sojourn is the only confirmed one
my guesses of whos coming with her is baptiste or wuyang and hazard or doomfist
baptiste, hazard, doomfist, hanzo and echo are the silhouettes in the 2nd stadium roadmap we got
so im just guessing based off of that
thank u👅
I wonder what is "Stadium trials feature" and "Active items"
I think “active items” means more items with gameplay effects. Like dash boots on Ana giving her an extra ability
Ah
We'll see
Consumables is also intriguing
oh thatll be a good addition
I run out of stuff to buy too often :/
I don't know what it is
think items but temporary or single use
Ah alright
does anyone know when tracers coming back into stadium?
hmmm...maybe its a similar thing to when we get to try the new hero early?
why am i not losing xp in the stadium competitve bar when i lose? im elite now and i thiught u dont lose any if u were only rookie and silver,
they changed it to where you only start losing points once you're close enough to your predicted rank
how do ik what my predicted rank is
I...don't know if it tells you, but if you're not losing points yet you're probably not there yet
Ah i see thank you
wait i dont remember recall ever playing a single game of stadium in samoa
The map with the lava is one of Samoa’s control maps
ohh the one with the jump pad and the hole
Is Winston op in stadium?
Does anyone know how stadium cash actually works? It's like no matter how good I do I get no mones
Pretty much everything. You can healbot and get rich, or popoff and get rich, or you can also spread out your damage to get credit on many eliminations which also give good cash each. go for bounties too
also depends on character, freja and juno are often broke even when they are doing well. Ana gets rich easily off very little numbers.
I see, so I think I'm just bad at stadium then cuz I low-key suck at doing any meaningful DMG or healing which is odd since I'm a masters role q and open q player
damage, kills and healing give you cash
she didnt.
yeah nope
Depends, sustain is not the best against him due to how much overhealth he can get going but burst still rips him apart.
yes absolutely
best hero in the mode atm and it’s not close
Does anyone know how Competitive Stadium ranks work?
I've only started very recently this season (new to this) and started as Rookie and now am in Contender. Despite some losses, I don't seem to lose rank progress?
when you go to queue theres a rank information page you can look at, describes progressing ranks when you lose points and so on
is tracer still not back?
I wouldn’t really say he is the best right now, he can still get screwed over by burst damage
Reaper especially can still screw him over
100% winrate against reaper
I’ve literally won against Winstons as Reaper in Stadium the fuck you mean 100%
bad winstons
im not a bad winston so i have a 100% winrate against reaper
sc from back when i was only solo queue
only loss was to aspen colourhex duo
so 2 ex pros
NERF THIS 0 SKILL ANA SLEEP BUILD PLEASE
no
Enter the Stadium 🗣️ 🔥
is tracer back?
yeah someone just picked tracer in my match
yippee
Recall activated - Tracer has been re-enabled in Stadium! We know you’ve all been waiting to try her Bullet Time power! ⏱️⏱️⏱️
yes
yeah ive already played a fee games with her, not sure if i go straight into comp tomorrow or get my muscle memory back some more though
i love playing tracer in stadium, she's incredibly fun
i stopped playing stadium when she was disabled because i would either pick pharah or tracer and now i can go back to doing that again
Blizzard still hasnt adressed the progress bug in Stadium
WHY IS JUNO SO BROKEN RN???
just played a game where opp juno didn't heal AT ALL and had 6k in dmg wtf
seems like they were throwing
shes literally so good i love her
and like its so funny watching people complain about the auto aim
when its like 8 whole shots
and my crosshair is already on them
LOL
if youre still loading in and in the map
if you kill an enemy you get money
i tend to get that as like the 3rd power, the first two being the recall bomb and the one where extra damage with consecutive shots
yea thats fair
alsoo
get vanadium trust me
this is generally what i build, 4th one was temportal and i just picked that randomly lol
oh that one, the 10% to everything, hmmmmm
i need to try that been meaning to but i want to throw the big bomb lol
trust me its so good
like
the stats are nice
the main part is 38 health and 38 shield its insane
plus 10% cooldown reduction
imma give it a try tomorrow since i do be holding that bomb for some time anyway lol
and pulse bomb with no ap won't be a oneshot at later rounds so
i can see why vanadium is useful
depends but yea
mostly the hp and cooldown
can someone tell me how i am not losing % in pro 5 in stadium? like is this intended?
is tracer playable again ? or is she still disabled
playable
ty
I think they updated ranked mode where u dont lose as much if u get team diffed ¯_( ‘ ^ ’ )_/¯
maybe, but what they did for sure this season is prevent you from losing points if your internal mmr doesn't match your rank so that you get to your predicted rank faster
Playing a game of stadium against tracer really makes you appreciate that she was replaced as the poster girl of overwatch by kiriko
Anyone available to play one game of stadium
still no shield stampede fixes
is tracer available on stadium?
is foresight working properly? I tried it in training mode and it felt weird
yeah
i just against her
i think her ban just lifted
Yea its normal
Guys is there a leaderboard or something for like who got the most kills on dva in a match or some?
what is the general counterplay for tracer ? feels severely unfair to play against as any healer
even playing him does not feel designed for stadium
buy survival items
early rounds you can get the item that gives you 100 armor until she gets codebreaker
typically stick closer to ur team or landing key cooldowns
sleep, whipshot, boop or run away w fade, tp, ga, double jump/fly... cry if ur zen ig or get his mobility perks or just kill her w discord
Do supports get more stadium points?
Was playing with a friend I was all star 5 (dps) he was pro 2 he is now all star 2 and so am I? How does that work only a few points away I'm getting mvp every game so it ain't based on performance
Mei's rolling iceball needs counterplay
mei is literally the devil
The game could be giving ur buddy more points per win based on mmr
pharah usually works against that
but besides her and like maybe zarya
its rough
especially on maps with indoor sections or places to get knocked off
like ilios or one of the payload races
wym pharah works
closest to stadium tier list can be found here: https://owtics.gg/en/hero
Overwatch 2 official hero statistics, hero meta impact heatmap, win rate, pick rate, ban rate, hero ranking, kda and match analysis. OWtics.GG provides the unique and exclusive insights based on the data.
pick rate
tracer not even on here 
but i imagine her to be the #1 dps pick
do u get the title when u reach all star 5
i think the title is only granted at the beginning of next season
i mean if u reach all star 5 last season
do u get it next season
if you reach all star 5 last season, then you get all star title this season, lasts 1 season
as well as the weapon charm
and name card
do they also last 1 season
yeah, title, weapon charm and name card all only 1 season
truke
i lowk like healbot mercy
if there isnt ana on enemy team
i dont like pocket build anymore idk why
I imagine Zen could actually reasonably fight her if he can track her if he has good WP, the self heal power, and enlightenment. Plus some armor to trigger the damage reduction against Tracer.
Guys i need your help
I just won 3 matches stadium dva only in a row but each matches only +9, +11 , +7?? While i used to see it +220?
Is something strange here
You reached a rank you belong at
I presume
a good tracer will always smoke a good zen, it's extremely hard to win that matchup, she has too many tools to play around what you can offer and she has more burst damage also
about twice as much dps
I hope they put hero ban soon so I can ban Tracer
there's items and powers, they can dial that instead to give answers to problem heroes in stadium
we don't need hero bans and draft
hero bans would be the worst thing added to stadium
what makes stadium enjoyable are the countless different builds and quite literally everybody being op
right
if you struggle with getting picked off cus of 80% wp soldier build up your hp and shields
that peanut butter item that makes winston cleanse himself every time he jumps (like 3 seconds) NEEDS to go
that shit has no counterplay and makes him invincible
She’s really annoying to kill😞
ya i mean being good is fine but not much counterplay lol
Tell me why I have to get matched with all stars and legend players every game when I'm in contenders 5
Why do I have to consistently win against the highest elo players to climb in stadium's equivalent of gold
that’s the problem with wide division
stadium is not fun when one game you’re steamrolling everybody with 0 deaths for 3 rounds then the next game you can’t even leave base cus you’re matched with contenders playing against all stars
Just gotta make her use her cd then she can't do much most dps can kill her pretty easily if played right
It shouldn’t be wide if I’m solo queueing tho
It just takes the fun out of ranking up
I’m not motivated to rank up if I’ve gotta play games way harder than they need to be for honestly bugger all rewards
do any stadium winston players know if Moon Landing or Lunar Leap is better for a round 7 AP build?
Only loses can rank you up in this mode and or you don’t lose rank so it’s not a huge deal after you rank once
Wdym only losses can rank me up
I love stadium don’t get me wrong but why is my mmr so high😭
Yes! I play cassidy I just flash and then go brrrr
Also I reached legend as tank after 184 wins🫡 It was really tough with randoms now I’m trying to do it as dps,I’m almost all start
It takes 184 wins to get to legend??
I was wondering I'm gaining like 3% every win at all star 2 😐
I play soldier I go boom she recall my aimbot go brrrr
I had some rough games with randoms that’s why it took so many😞 I was even getting –140 sometimes
Yes for me too
hahaha nice!
I'm at like 50 wins iirc
I play reaper and cassidy and as tank I mostly play rein and sometimes orisa
Damn I only just touched dps ain't played the others
My games only lose if my tank is just terrible like I can carry of other dps sucks but I can't do the tanks job
The tanks don't even need to do much they just need stay alive
You can lose in stadium and still gain rank up to a certain point, and like for me losing in all star doesn’t cause me to lose any rank
My rank doesn't move if I lose a game?
It just stays where it is
I get 220 a win otherwise
yea once u get high enough, game starts taking rank away but its a pretty easier climb this season compared to 1/2 imo
no this season is bugged
I get +20-40 from wins
need 10-15 wins for a rank up
insane
Well that’s just the system saying it thinks you belong in that rank
Which regular comp does the same thing during placements when you think about it. Since we reset seasonally you’re basically in placements til you reach the point the system believes you are at then it dials up the the difficulty
what is up with the queue times on healer
like why are my queue times for tank and dps 30-60 sec if that in all star and pro divisions meanwhile the contender and elite is 14 mins
support has the highest demand
stadium support is piss easy tbf
rank doesnt matter theres a metric fuckton of support players in queue compared to either tank/dps
can i get like a scientific answer as to why every virgin plays the 4 legged cunt
i am so tired of this shit
that's also because support is easily the most fun to play in stadium. maybe make the other roles fun and then you'll have people playing them 5head
no hate, im playing all roles brother, just explaining
also this game is so fucked it's not even funny anymore. you queue all roles you're 100% guaranteed to play tank. there's literally no other role it's even gonna queue you for it's fucking stupid. weekly challenge should just be play tank not all roles
in stadium qp solo queue
i don't believe it. if i were to play the game and queue for all roles until i get support i'd be playing for a week straight
no ranked stadium
i mean fair i would only ever queue stadium ranked with a team at this point but i would also therefore never queue all roles. stadium quickplay all role queue is just idiocy on the other hand. it's just tank
and every virgin and their mother just plays orisa. or pretty rarely zarya. just boring, stupid and annoying
it's the opposite, support has the highest offer
and the answer is extremely simple. make more fun heroes for the other roles. why is it that support ends up having the biggest variety of playstyles and the most fun designs? and then they're surprised that other roles aren't played as often
yeah it's the most played role somehow
this is true I tried out almost every dps hero but none of them had an enjoyable playstyle for me
it’s just boring in a way
tank and support have all sorts of kits some of them are very creative
wanna play support? just go AP soldier
go biotic build + the double helix
cooldown reduction, ap, couple survival stuff
gg
Wait, I just saw a TikTok comment and I gotta know if it’s true or fake. Is it true that once you cross 100% in one of the stats the extra numbers don’t do anything? So 100% is the same as 130% AP??
I’m not sure but you can test it out in practice range
Try with Juno’s torpedos and tank bots
How do you see exact damage numbers tho
Is there a setting for that in the range I wonder
Hard to visually tell if the difference is small
I don’t think so I looked for it before but I couldn’t find anything
I think if 100% and 130% truly are different it would be noticeable in health
There’s no cap so going over 100 should provide a benefit unless something specifically is bugged
Tested it definally has an effect
anti tracer build?
whip shot brig
1shot / 2 shot
Rocket soldier or anyone that can one tap her is pretty good
true
finally made it back to legend
now i dont have to touch comp till the drives come out
that’s true they would’ve not allowed you to purchase more abilities if they didn’t benefit you
Hey friends
I have been grinding as d. va in stadium just for the skin and it seems like i'll be forever stucking in pro 3
And my second main is mercy so i decided to play her in stadium (still in rookie 5) and i must admit i'm pretty good at her! And i've been looking for the best healing builds
But i need to ask a question is her primary healing staff counted as ability or weapon category?
Weapon, other than some niche powers, it's best to build into weapon power and attack speed, as both increase the heals per second she gives. I'm not sure what people are running these days but from my understanding threads of fate is hard meta
Omg really no way uwu owo dva
It's scam!
U can click on it it doesnt send virus just an image of them getting free money from selena gomez
That's really hilarious honestly
Oh lol
Guys, it says “You are banned: SEASON 18 OPENQUEUE” for competitive, so when exactly will I get unbanned?
Compromised accounts
so
i just discovered stadium
and its wonders
(namely attackspeed rein)
any other "fun" (or funky) tank builds?
i also did a raid boss orisa
Important question! Who is the worst tank in stadium?
I have played all of them and i can't say there is a very clear, worst
there’s a sigma build where you can heal almost 10% hp every second
This is pretty build dependent assuming you playing the absolute best tank meta build id imagine it’s probably deva
That being said it’s probably well within tolerance of 1-2% of other tanks. And stadium is pretty match up dependent it’s like if you pick JQ into kiri Lucio or a whip brig and you want to play an axe build your setting yourself up for a bad time unless you just massively out skill the lobby
I’m only a diamond tank though so that’s just what I notice from playing all roles around diamond level
Pretty much all tanks work fine though assuming you and your team build items that work well into whatever you face
You have my attention
Any details?
been out of practice with stadium tanks cause I took a big break of stadium followed by me only wanting to queue dps + support when I returned
what tanks are probably the best if I don't want to worry about bad tank vs tank matchups as much? so far Orisa followed by Reinhardt both seem ok for that but wondering if there's someone better
Sigma seemed a lot more flexible than he was on launch after the beam splitter buffs but it's hard to tell sometimes if I'm struggling with a skill issue or being overwhelmed with him, most of the laser and melee matchups that gave him trouble are fine after round 1 but Rein with 1-2 melee/laser dps/healers still seems a bit tough for me on Sigma
Sigma i think just struggles in stadium because everyone runs zar or rine and usually moyra
a good sigma bullies reins to death
i have at least 2 builds made just to spite rein players
wether its charge/shield or hammer build
firestrike build's not an issue for sigma
idk the last time I saw a firestrike build in any context
if you would happen to have a link to both (or at least 1) I'd like to check that out, I think Reinhardt is still the only pain point I have for Sigma specifically when he has another laser/melee abuser (which feel very common now)
Zarya has not been an issue for me at all even with additional lasers/melees since beam splitter buff
give me a short bit im hopping on
you get the double shield power, sigma has an item that gives him and allies 3% healing of his max health when they’re near his barriers
both shields count individually
and then you just throw martian mender on top of that
rest of the build is up to you really you just need that one power and two items
i take the 3 barrier powers and either triple hypersphere or the melee float, then the barrier heals, martian mender, ogundimu reduction field, divine intervention, nebula conduit and then depending on their comp, either containment field or synced shielding
hit 20k heals with this before
ok so
there's this power up for mercy called "equivalent exchange"
thing is, i saw a mercy use 4 rezes in a row
6 during the whole ass match of payload race
i dont think they picked that
but they once rezed 4 people in a row
no cooldown or anything
thats highly sus for me but idk can just be a stadium build i dont know
its awful
your res speed becomes 33% faster but you can only res 3 times per round
either they were cheating or their teammates had the self revive item
no no it was always them
thats possble?
Who’s meta rn
what do you do as reaper against pharmacy ana dva comp
what was the rest of the team?
you obviously do nothing to those 3
pharah mercy ana dva soldier
you need to somehow get to ana or soldier. if ana has that power that gives her like 600hp then your only real target is soldier
I’d say don’t play Reaper into that if you can avoid it
interesting
no fix on this issue? happens to me too
https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/bad-routing-very-high-ping/37304/30
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Dva can be a potential tank buster target but Soldier will be your real squishy target. Best bet against Pharamercy is to get a kill that will force the Mercy to attempt the Rez and try to kill her during it before she can fly back to Pharah. Once Pharah doesn’t have Mercy on her anymore it’s a matter of waiting for her to get close enough to the ground, while Ana is basically a race to kill her before her cooldowns come back, mainly sleep as you can get rid of nade with wraith and potentially heal a bit doing so.
Basically your job against Pharamercy is to force Mercy to ditch Pharah so that your team have a shot at killing one of them
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best tracer build?
you know how there's stadium powers
that give dps their mini ult on an ability
soldier has visor on rocket, reaper blossom on tp, pharah barrage on dash
none of them give ult charge except pharah's
3-5% per hit btw
why tf pharah gets ult charge from it
tp blossom definitely generates ult charge tho
Weapon power for sure
anything with weapon power and just hit shots
mei's mini blizzards also give ult charge
and freja's mini bola shots
Yea went the auto aim after blink and wp build
Ts was insane
go in the practice range and test powers
that's the best way to learn about a character
hes super flexible it depends on how u wanna play him
I honestly don't know what to do with JQ into the late game
Feels like no matter what direction I push her, she just can't do much whatsoever. Can't damage well enough to score elims on anything that invested in survivability, can't heal the team well-enough with wounds, can't really protect the team meaningfully whatsoever
I dunno, contrast with basically every other tank, who has the, well, lethality, utility and survivability in equal measure
Seems like Queen just closes the game early, or not at all
I think people figured out counters to tracer in stadium. My tracer games got alot harder
Queen certainly gets no shortage of cash, though. Like, gee-whiz, I get those MVP bonuses pretty consistently in the first three rounds
Take bow down 3rd or 4th if you find its hard to make something happen in later rounds
reckoner’s roar + shout items makes your wound healing on teammates a lot more consistent and good too if thats what you are looking to improve
That's what I've been attempting
but, uh, I'm not quite seeing results
Hard to save a sinking ship, right? I can only heal my teammates so much when enemy dive heroes are glued to them
Even with reckoner's roar and royal bullets and all
oh yeah thrill of battle healing is not good enough to save your backline.. its just a boost to your brawling or diving teammates
Idk maybe just try w keying and not saving your backline sounds throw but what can you really do, thrill of battle isnt burst healing or mitigation so
who’s getting bullied anyways they need to figure it out, zen becomes undiveable in stadium and ana can get like 600 hp and big sleep
oh, crap, I just realized three tap tommygun got nerfed?
That's kinda an interaction I relied on as Junkrat
Thought I could maybe apply the same principal to queen, but, not anymore it would seem
That's kinda another thing. Early on, JQ's lethality is great, but once the enemy supports have invested in all their survivability stuff, assuming it's not a Zenyatta or Brigitte, I find it nearly impossible to focus them on my own
even when I've got weapon power up the wazoo. TMM and Bloodhound Mask and Superflexor all at once and I still can't scratch Mercy
Hence, well, I feel kinda useless. Since Queen kinda depends on her lethality to protect from flankers and keep the pressure off
It got changed cause tracer would be too strong
New tommy is a buff for like.. moira or something like that
Yeah, I dunno, I'm still entirely stumped
I've got the roar, I even put cybervenom on it, I've got 50 WP, 35 AP, with Bloodhound Mask and Superflexor each stacking an additional 25% on both.
I feel like I've built everything right, and went for every play I possibly could, and I still can't make a dent in the late game
granted, the Ashe just melted my entire health bar with one dynamite
But, like, the enemies are literally bodyblocking me, I'm swinging the axe on them, I'm yanking the Winston every time he tries to jump away, I just can't seem to make them flinch—or by the time I do manage to isolate a support in a hectic point fight, my entire team's dead.
You simply just gotta win early or not at all as Queen, it seems
I feel like if I was Reinhardt, I could still do something with my shield. Even my gimmicky Orisa AP build can make big plays.
Yeah, I love my 'javelin vortex' build. It's not the best build—definitely loses heavily if the enemy has both Mei and Zarya—but it is the most fun build. I love the deflecting javelin
And I can just create a vortex of building and using ultimates, use Liquid Nitrogen to trap enemies in the ult, and just snipe with the spear a whole bunch.
Deflecting a blizzard always feels great.
Theoretically, this build also lets me drop tons and tons of superchargers, but supercharger doesn't feel very good, because it gets destroyed very easily. If anybody looks at it or D.Va dumps lava alll over it, it's gone, and I've wasted a power slot I could have used on more survivability or something
have they said they will fix the points rank in today's patch?
cos winning giving us 10 points and losing being like -50 is no fun
yes
they havent said anything tho
yea theres no fix
dude the weekly recall announcement actually made me think we were getting a workshop update for stadium
Dylan Snyder said that a fix would go live today
I got 2 wins and got +50 for both so def no fix
Might not be in yet could just be a back end patch
I believe we're planning a change that will make the minimum points per win at least 60, but unsure when that will go live was from sept 21
can they nerf tracer already
Can you do some more unique scams? This one can get spotted easily
It's not professional at all!💅
enjoy the nerf, tracer-mains? ENJOY IT!
AP FREJA BUFF
i love to see it
ap freja is my favorite dps build
totally not because my aim is bad
Thank god they fixed the stadium points holy 😭
What's up with the random image files in this channel
Idk wtf I'm doing so i just build for headshots
Heh
idiots that got hacked
Huh
I think the most consistent build for him is melee then pivotting into ap burst when ppl get too tanky in later rounds, but ive seen poke/attack speed builds do well into certain match ups like orisa, pharah, etc where u can shred em from afar w good aim primary shurikens and then dash in for garunteed kills
also i don't know why people use the auto recall power, it's pure trash
like wow it prevents a death once per round
big whoop
It also gives you all your cooldowns back and permanently makes it to where ult use gives half of your recall cooldown back…including as it was discovered the pulse bomb on recall if the auto recall triggers while Recall is on cooldown.
/shrug
a power doing something good once per round isn't something i would pick ever
and the recall cooldown reduction doesn't even line up properly with how you play Tracer
it's just bad lol
if they put it on like a timed cooldown i could see it being useful
like a minute or sumn
Code breaker 10k no more cheap wp
why has moira been meta for so l9ong
they refuse to nerf anything about her in stadium
she is genuinely broken and the devs havent nerfed her money or anything
Her internal stats are probably bad and keeping devs from touching her since most people only know how to play ap orbs
The amount of people choosing multiball first is sickening its a very weak power lol
if people start actually being good at moira and playing grasp powers and builds and phantasm they might do something
best stadium build for moira?
why has blizzard still not fixed legendary loadout on dva
I mean money wise
just nerf her cash and we good
what's there to nerf about Moira? She's fine
a good Moira can make her team unkillable if the other team isn’t running Winston or D.va
can’t even say Ana or junker queen anymore because you can just voidhoppers their anti heal
8 min que for stadium comp as all specs........ thats wild 😑
No way tank is actually 8
i was getting 20 min tank queues a few hours ago
hmm my double healer que has been under 10 mins
the day they add sombra or symmetra into stadium is the day i dont look back
stadium only
the day i never look back at stadium
too far gone
Anyone know who's going to be in stadium next season?
i dont know for sure but my guess is sojourn, baptiste, and doomfist
If I had to guess what would be meta for those 3, Sojourn and Bap would probably be WP with Bap getting some AP to let burst keep some of its strength since I doubt they’ll let you touch lamp much, and Doom could probably go either way or even hybrid
imagine they give doom his uppercut back
They might not put it on a regular button like how with that one power Orisa’s old barrier gets auto placed if you overheat. For Doom I could see maybe a power where if an enemy is close enough to him after slam he auto does uppercut or maybe it’ll be like Brig’s Shield Bash where if he is currently in block he can then do uppercut.
we also have torb
cushioned padding is my favorite item in stadium
its so useful
rein shatter, get up almost instantly
cybervenom?
what cybervenom
I just hope bastion is in stadium im currently otping him and wanna play him in stadium
do ppl js come in here to drop 4 jpegs and dip
Those are hacked accounts
Imagine a Genji or Orisa deflecting that and just insta killing whoever they look at-
phantasmic flux might be like
a must have for any character that isnt mercy
the lifesteal is just so good
I wish Genji was real this season
Any time I try to play him I just get blown up by a Phara or Winston any time I try to dive for 30 minutes
thats the one thing that sucks about stadium
if you just get counterpicked to hell as a dive character
is stadium filled with bots rn?
genji mains when they have to play instead of clicking 2 buttons
actually its 4 buttons
shoot slash ult and deflect
duh
is there any way to make this ap tracer shit work or is it just buns
deflect? it’s normally kill cam 😂
Always has been
is phara just the character for people with no brain?
cause so far it seems like you can get value with her so easily it's not even funny. literally the braindead spam character
her inclusion to the mode has singlehandedly made the mode 100 times worse
pulse recall is good as a power but you dont really need to scale ap into it
wp tracer is king
maybe u can superflexor or phantasmic flux with it.. idk
Its just weapon power is boring
Youre just playing regular tracer with bigger numbers
regular tracer isn't boring anyways
the whole reason i wanted her in stadium
is undeniably her kit is simple ap tracer chucking bombs on recall was that extra oomph i feel i needed
problem is it isnt good :[
youre incentivized to just stack a shit load of weapon power and clickon people instead like every other dps in the game
which is why dps queues are so short and support queues are so long. they just objectively got the better end of the bargain when it comes to powers
how did tracer not get blinking through targets does ap damage over a second or two
that is like a no brainer
mei, ashe, freja,and reaper all have good ap builds
though like most ap builds they're only good in the mid-late game
I feel like inconsistent is a better word to describe Reaper’s AP build
it's trash tbh
imagine teleporting and spinning like an idiot doing negative damage
early game its pretty bad
but once you get to like round 4 and 5 you can start doing very well
especially if you coordinate with your team and track important enemy cds
I think ap builds could use a little kick in the early game
Like playing quickplay stadium i can only get an ap build TRULY online round 3, or 5 if ranked. ..and the game is usually fuckin over
why does no one run pure survival build rein ive only seen people half commit to it
its by far the most busted rein build in the game rn
you get 1400health 3000health insta regen shield 112 self healing insane damage reduction plus healing from gloomgauntlet
bit late but not really its more ammo is the problem any character who can scale off of ammo is braindead to play into because its so cheap for the ammount of output you get with it like soldier cas and tracer
Because people don’t really like just holding barrier up for most of the game
sigma is my all time favorite anti-everything tank for stadium
even with a full survival build, since the barrier healing from the item counts as heals, i get to spam ults and they do half hp regardless
Yeah Sigma is pretty adaptable, heals from barriers makes dealing with anyone that can’t just ignore them easy and for anyone that can ignore them Sigma has a flight build he can use.
its still by far the strongest build rn and its not even close
and its more intresting then the spam swing build or the firestrike build
the only build on rein more enjoyable is flyhardt
smashing is buns not even good for how popular it is
its goood for the speed but lifesteal isnt important when gloomgauntlet exists
Since Moira has lifesteal by default on her secondary fire, is it good to invest more lifesteal sometimes?
(Still new to Stadium and been stuck only on Reinhardt)
Not really, investing in Weapon Power also increases how much you heal.
For the latter, does that also affect primary fire?
the power that increases pulse bomb range for tracer
this shit feels like a curse it just makes every throw go past them
or maybe im just dogshit at hitting pulse bombs
how can you play rein into tracer like i'll be fighting the enemy team and i just watch tracer solo my entire team behind me and i can't catch up to her
If it isn’t on a cooldown and it’s trigger by mouse clicks or L2 and R2, weapon power usually affects it
flux on moira is arguably the best it could possibly be
also zen is genuinely the most fun support imo
you can't peel tracer as rein. focusing her is a waste. js try to kill their backline
pleaseeeeeeeee reveal the next 3 stadium characters and my life is yours
Stadium players are bout to throw the largest fit oml
Hazard soj and Torb
Lmao
Soj gonna be dope tho
200+ rail im praying for
Anyone yall using that flying perk for tracer?
where are you getting that info from
they are missing a support
So..maybe this means a support will be coming to Stadium for season 19’s midseason patch?
I definitely think Torb getting added now is partly in response to complaints about Tracer in the mode
Hazard one trick incoming, I will be exclusively queing tank if he's even a little bit viable
They seem to only add a fourth hero every other mid-season, so probably not until next season
Also, they gave sojourn an auto aim, because of course they did.
I’m pretty sure it’s only for primary fire and not railgun
Plus if it follows the other instances of auto aim you still need to aim at the head yourself
Dva Mech and Genji currently are the only 2 that have their headshot hitboxes close enough to center mass for auto aim to naturally hit it
Yeah, my issue is that auto aim is inherently a crutch, you trade power for ease of use which isn't healthy for a ranked game mode imo. You can get to high ranks without developing the skills you need to actually hang at those ranks
The only even slightly healthy one is Zen's since it can hit people retreating around corners
Well you also gotta remember, Sojourns primary fire is also still projectile based instead of hitscan like most of the others, Railgun is the part of her that’s actually hitscan
nah
they wouldve announced it
thats why they gave us the ana rework
rework the most annoying bitchless boring support yeah good one
leave her to die for once please 💔
stadium's fun because she isnt viable
Unless the items are good, the powers seem woefully underwhelming other than nanonade, so I doubt it'll move the needle too much
Finally hit legend phew
good luck getting past legend 5
you barely gain any
but at the same time you barely lose any so
I dont intend to play more stadium haha
the gadgets
stacking kitsune core with cushioned padding for -80% negative effect duration is gonna be insane
jq might be in the gutter next season
weapon power's gonna rise up
I feel like they'll be buffing her on that aspect
i just want more items overall, and more items that solves problematic matchups
main one being projectile heroes vs flyers
I get one more genji on my team and I'm going to crash out lol 
rlly i like genjis
besides their attitude
to me feels like one of the only dps in this mode that can do anything, him and mccree
has anyone had a problem with players who play like bots in stadium? me and my friend had a match where our rein didnt pick any items, only 1 power, and then started standing still while throwing his hammer around and stuff and then throw
and then next match the other team had a tracer that did make a build, but only got 1 round over 1k damage and threw really hard and played like a bot
my friends theory is that maybe someones putting bots into stadium
or like testing it
but i think it might just be a coincidence cause we only played two matches so far
Theres 20 min wait for damage in stadium qp right now and they want to add 2 more damage and no support, fair right ? 🙁
Genji is such low skill bait lmao brain rot hero in this mode
do attack speed buffs work on winston?
yes it does, but i wouldn't recommend it
attack speed's main purpose is to mitigate accuracy issues
Are you r3garded? No one wants your shitty voice acting btw
If ur playing for drives and play supp/tank who are u using and what builds?? Im struggling lmao
@scarlet bronze another hotsoace alt
Stadium?
Yeah
"Genji mains" who only play stadium are hardly Genji mains at all
Yeah, it's the same effect as damage except it's worse into armor and makes u run out of ammo faster
Building damage is just better
weapon power is more useful for Winston than attack speed by a long shot
I think he’s the only beam character like that
idk about Zarya but mei benefits a lot from having a good mix of weapon power and attack speed
what's the point of attack speed on beams
Winston cannon ignores armor dmg reduction tho
Oh fr?
Yeah
They did that a while back during all the armor changes
attack speed is very good for his melee build tbf
winston has to be at least a top 3 tank in stadium
Does anyone have any tips on how to better survive as Pharah in stadium?
Ive been playing Pharah in stadium a bit for the last few weeks and I have to say it is well hard to survive, especially against all the high damage numbers there is against fliers.
Ive tried multiple self sustain builds, some working better than others. But it's still not enough to win me games 90% of the time.
And I fear that with torb and sojourn comming out in around 4 days, I'm never going to be able to play Pharah again!......
Theres a few builds I've really tried to make work but never has worked due to the amount of damage i take. (Fx: Carpet bomb build.) Causing me to almost always go with a direct hit auto aim builds with loads of weapon lifesteal and ability lifesteal, which don't get me wrong, it's fun. Just not always my cup of tea..
So if anyone has any tips on how to better survive as Pharah without needing a lot of self sustain it would be much appreciated ^^
(Elite 4 DMG if that means anything.)
all the pharas i see do well tend to play alot of peekaboo and coming at odd angles, like they'll wait until the engage starts then pop out to assassinate
but also i feel like its the support and tanks who need to win the game, the damage just need to help keep up pressure... i could be wrong
double conc blast + conc blast missiles + ability power is nasty
this is the most boring way u could play pharah
its the only ones i see living in my games, tho its mostly 76's and tracers and meis i see
pray to god everyday that i dont move to the us and then one day get into ur lobbies bc i will target u personally
lol i'm a support main, thats just a game of overwatch for me
i would probably tell you you're good if you shut me down, its what i tend to do
oh ok
that's cool
mei is nasty
had an orisa round 5 literally give up, quit shooting me to presumably type at her team for like 5 seconde because i'd been contesting their payload for the past minute solo
to the point they didnt even bother walking to their own and just went for my team
safe to say we were at the end
well, everyone but me
im down to all star 1 now
does kiriko have reduced cash gain or am i just straight ass
feel like im doing so much healing, damage, cleansing etc but hardly getting any cash compared to other healers
I think it is reduced I js started maining n it feels slow
Every character has different rates they earn cash to help make it to where they get about the same amount of cash per round.
except Moira
Is there like a Kiriko ability that stops you shooting her?
Like I keep blinking up to her and I literally can’t shoot at all
For a second
her suzu that makes her invincible ?
honestly i'm surprised i don't see more moiras as i was grinding out the rank to all star... she feels like a consistent late game carry if the other team doesn't also have a moira doing the same thing
i see alot of ana, but you can just bully the ana without her being able to respond
by grinding i really mean waiting for 14 min queues to pop because it didn't take a huge amount of games
like moria doesn't feel like an instant win but she feels like she can carry really hard in the late game for a support in this mode
like ur gun won't shoot or u do 0 damage?
Suzu in a nutshell?
Tank in stadium is miserable
what is a good mercy build
the one with perks
Hi, Legend 4 Mercy here. My typical build is focused on weapon power, attack speed, survivability and movement.
Powers I like
Threads of fate , Supply Surge for my go to first picks. Third and fourth power depends on what I'm feeling but I go between the whambulance and triage unit typically.
Epic Perks i like Overdrive core, Booster jets, Hardlight accelerant, Amari's antidote, and resurrection rangefinder.
Rare Perks: Aerodynamic Feathers, Aftermarket firing pin, glass extra full, basically anything that ups movement speed, attack speed and weapon power.
I forgot how fun Zarya is in this, although the siren call of playing Lucio with kinda bad off meta builds will always call to me
Does anyone else play ap tracer? I really want to make this work
I got absolutely dumpstered by it in a ditto matchup but whenever I play it i am just absolute dogshit
it's definitely not optimal
I think the melee/AP build is probably the best way to go, but the biggest thing is just that tracer has a monstrous skill ceiling
There is a stadium setting that will highlight enemies within melee range
Wheree is that that sounds so nice
Go to Controls, in the Stadium tab, quick melee range indicator- turn it on
Can we please just nerf 76 into the ground. Genuinely a charity character

76 is fine, wait until you face the best Tracers, you're going to cry irl
Facts, I had this tracer on the enemy team with this unstoppable build and I was trying everthing to help the team out as Cassidy 😭😭
Think I just gave the enemy team a permanent fear of Torpedo Spam Juno
Less goo
if i were to get the armor reduction perk in the weapon tab, would it then also let my abilities ignore 50% armor DR?
it doesn't say it can't but i wanna make sure
What’s everyone’s thoughts on Hazard, Torbjorn and Sojourn being added to the stadium roster this upcoming season?
i wanna see their powers and unique items before i start judging
they do add a solid amount of items every season though
not that i end up using most of them
This might be a dumb question to ask but how do you go about counter building in stadium?
like building against counters or building to counter
Building to counter
Depends on what you’re fighting against, if it’s damage over time or stuff like Anti, Cushioned Padding will save you big time
Intervention and Nebula Conduit can save you against burst damage and reduction field can help you a fair bit against sustained damage(though right now Intervention is bugged to where the 150 damage requirement doesn’t have a window)
most counters tend to be defensive wise in terms of items rather than offensive though
usually to help mitigate bad matchups
Oooo I tried the reduction field one just now and it helped a good bit
I will note though, in a situation where you end up grabbing Nebula and Cushioned, Cushioned also works on Nebula’s damage over time, letting you permanently negate part of that damage
huh? there was like 3 new items this season
Does normal comp vs stadium give you the same amount of drives xp?
i believe so yah!
i don't know about that, but the matches are way longer so your points per hour are a fraction of what they are in other modes
what items is good against freja
anti air items if ur on dps, divine intervention, cushioned padding if shes running an AP build with cybervenom/liquid nitrogen
For survival
She would use her sticky bomb ability
I would hide in cover and die from the delayed explosion
Yeah I’m the same too, especially with Torb
I bet Torb will be mad annoying
I’m guessing he’ll be good just based off how he plays in the base game
but not meta
them torb headshots are like faster mei icicles
weapon power torb'll be nasty if you're good at aiming at him(or just spamming chokepoints)
i still think sojourn is gonna be the best of the 3 characters though
All I know is I'm gonna try one-tricking hazard to at least pro. If he's not fun I will be genuinely impressed
ill have to be a quickplay merchant on torbjorn
when me and my friends queue comp ill prolly have to be on support
I like support, but not nearly enough to sit through support queue times. Nothing more demoralizing than waiting 15 minutes to get 0-3d because your dps is asleep at the keyboard or your tanks W key is broken
this is when you open up your hulu/netflix account and start watching your favorite shows in queue
Yeah I think so too, especially with the turret and the powers he’ll get. I’m keen to see the powers Sojourn and Hazard will get too.
Does anyone play stadium in 3rd person?
i occasionally do
that’s great though, I recently started playing in 3rd person regularly and it’s been great. I mainly play as Winston, Cassidy and sometimes Lucio for stadium and it’s quite fun playing in 3rd person
how long do most orisa duels usually go?
looks normal
all of the sustain tanks run into that issue
i forgot what makes stadium incredibly fun (or potentially boring) the buildup to that one match point where it's all about cooldown diff between two mirror tanks
Hello, whos, added to Stadium the next season in few hours ?
Hazard, Torb, and Sojourn, and Ana is getting a bit of a rework for Stadium
stadium comp is gonna be first to 3 like quickplay instead of first to 4 now
I think it's going to be a great change
I've played QP a lot and I think the format is better
Alright I’m already in the game, time to look at the new characters
same
it really helps out the late game builds
playing doctor soldier or AP reaper in comp was risky as hell
Ok Hazard is more focused on AP and I think it’s gonna be REALLY interesting, even has a way to make his primary fire do some AP damage without getting Kitsune
Ok so I just checked Sojourn’s powers, the auto aim is only on Primary fire, so the Railgun shots won’t auto aim, and it’s only during her ult
Kinda weird she only got 1 survival item though, also kinda scary one of her powers gives charge shot kills aoe damage
Also I was right that there was gonna be a cost to having 3 turrets active, they have half their health, 66% of their attack speed, and their upgrades only last for 15s
Also the level 3 turrets are only during overload and it HAS to have been level 2 beforehand
sounds like a lot of setup just to get oneshot by a single take aim bolt
Oh, Ironblood Injectors sound neat, grow 30% larger and heal 5% of your max life every second
Also I find it funny that they made the little meme of Torb healing Bastion by hammering him real in a sense in Stadium
Tbh I think Torb is probably gonna be a hybrid character, he doesn’t really have much that directly increases his damage without needing some requirement or having some kind of cost
Also they nerfed Sleep Regimen, it’s capped to a 75 health increase
Bruh they nerfed Spirited to Slay, Wraith only gets its cooldown reduced by 50% now
That mainly hurts AP builds, WP builds can still play without it
Also they have added damage numbers to Stadium, we don’t need to use that custom game anymore to see how much damage or healing something does now
Also Hardlight Accelerator triggers on gadgets now too
Same with Commander’s Clip
And Booster Jets, so I’m assuming anything that triggers on ability use also triggers on gadgets
which is even more of a reason this nerf is just dumb
bo5 in stadium comp:(
guys lets nerf reaper's niche build while kiri keeps her double suzu
Sojourn going all into charge shot seems like it will be strong
Ok so Hazard’s Barbed Shot power triggers Cybervenom
💀
Basically yeah burst is king
Servers break inbetween rounds rn anyway it seems
Alright so I can definitely confirm that I’m not gonna try to do the hammer Torb Build against a Rein and Brig, cause a Torb I was paired with tried to do that..it did not go well for them
The best of 5 format feels so gross. I hated it in quick play and I hate it more in comp
At least hazards cool, and torb hammer seems fun
my friends played one game against hazard and already quit overwatch
i dont think falconer stacks with nano nade
or at the very least it doesnt give ult charge
Dude they basically removed stadium, like wtf
It's just quick play with 1 more round.
Torb is NASTY
AP build is pretty unsurprisingly not the greatest
but holy shit WP builds are insanely bursty
hammer is funny as hell and gun does a shitton of dmg
vanadium injection on a wp torb build might be worth it ngl
Someone test if attack speed increases how quickly Spike Guard fires out
No
It doesnt
Wait nvm yeah
I was trolled by the power
It does
Same
everybody just has suzu now for 10k credits
these gadgets are something else
Alright so I can confirm: Hazard’s blood needle item is not very good-
From what I can tell all Gadgets are one time use and you have to buy them again later
Oh no wait they have a cooldown
um, no, they have a cooldown
Also they have the same incoming negative effect duration reduction that Cushioned Padding has….wait do those 2 stack?
Eww why swap from best of 4 to best of 3?
but in counterpart, they fixed enligtenment not working correctly for him
7 Rounds was goated, 5 is too quick
soj is going to be the death of this mode
Alright they don’t stack
how? its always been 75%
Yeah Inner Peace didn’t get touched, in fact Zen only got buffs this patch
shocker
yeah i was so confused
Anyway yeah Hazard’s Blood Needle is not a good item, the spikes feel like they don’t heal enough
You can just build life steal anyway
lol no
nope, it's never been
blizz didn't know how to write english so in their brains 75% less meant 75% percent efficiency
no, it HELLA got nerfed, from 75% efficiency to 25%
they also changed dual harmony to reflect the change of them learning to write english
Instant Karma also got hella buffed, from 30% to 50%
I think the wording just changed - Change log doesn't show a change to Zen in that regards - Went from 75% less effective to only 25% effective, same stats just worded differently
and as said previously, they fixed the bug of enlightenment lifesteal not working for Zen if he has self-orb, unless you had discord on your target
i have 300h of stadium Zen and picked this power every game, trust me it healed for 75% of normal orb
Then that was a bug because it used to read 75% reduced efficiency
doesnt matter in the long run, that power was only really good with enlightenment for the synergy
made 0 difference by itself in later rounds
well now that synergy is just better as you don't need discord on a target for it to work
what's the hazard build guys
Format issues aside, max HP torb is really fun. You can almost do a 3 support build that actually works since hammer explosions scale off max HP as well as armor packs. You become a feral swedish dwarf with a hammer slinging armor packs and giving overheal to your whole team, peak OW
I think ability damage/life steal is really solid, just building around spike guard and getting a ton of survivability from it, but I haven't experimented much tbf
Thank god they added sojourn to stadium, now i have an excuse for being in spawn room every 5 seconds
wall hazard is also a huge issue
i watched my teammates get oneshot in round 2