stadium-discussion

[fallow socket]

he's there and the next second he's just gone

[turbid kiln]

Lmfao yes I had a game last over an hour and 5 mins cause my orisa was running a immortal build and the dva was doing the goomba stop build and I myself was doing transcendence build so no one was fucking dieing😭

the last round where my team won the game lasted 28 mins

And it was on hanako

also both teams had mercy’s

And my mercy kept reviving me everytime I died

and there mercy kept reviving dva

Everytime she died

so no one was dieing

[fallow socket]

no literally the survivability in this mode is insane these games dont end

i had a dva mercy mirror matchup too and it was taking forever but thankfully both teams also had genjis to help burst baby dva down and make the fights end

[turbid kiln]

it wasn’t a dva matchup but my orisa had some god tier survival build and I legit could not focus heal any of our dos

Dps

[split osprey]

these queue times are killing me.. currently 25 mins in and im still only in elite </3

[split osprey]

43 mins good lord why do so many people want to play support

[nocturne sandal]

Well, it's a good thing that has never happened to me! 😁

[fallow socket]

cause all the dps are pathetic and doesnt help that its like 5 hitscan heroes too

[split osprey]

Yeah it ended up taking around an hour and a half before i found a game

[fallow socket]

dang ive never had it that bad before tho

my highest was maybe 45 mins

[nocturne sandal]

This is why I play tank and dps

faster q times = playing more video game

which means more dopamine

[chrome gazelle]

I need all-star duo

[hushed jewel]

When is tracer getting added?

It’s mid season

[fallow socket]

i forgot about her

please dont add her

[neon galleon]

She is getting added next mid-season

And that next season is also when Brig gets added

[ashen hound]

yep and ur just the devils cousin

when dive is added to stadium, it will finally be playable for fdps

or atleast other fdps heros that are fast

[acoustic kiln]

my glorious queen brigitte

who could do no wrong

[neon galleon]

I’m pretty sure Brig is part of why the devs decided that they would add Tracer to Stadium next mid season since I’m gonna guess Brig is gonna get a few powers and items that could allow her to better guard people and thus reduce any problems Tracer’s introduction would create

[turbid kiln]

then tracer gets blink powers

that counter brig

[neon galleon]

I swear how does a Zen out heal a Juno…

[turbid kiln]

Transcendence build

Ez heals

[neon galleon]

That’s the worse part: I was WP Zen

[turbid kiln]

oh

what was the Juno’s build

[neon galleon]

Missile

[turbid kiln]

Beuh what

where they not using the missles at all?

[neon galleon]

My main form of healing was the power that let 30% of my damage heal whoever had harmony orb

[neon galleon]

They were

[turbid kiln]

That’s rough

Mabye not enough

[neon galleon]

Hell my healing was close to the supports on the enemy team

I had like 14k healing

They maxed out at like 16k healing

[bright briar]

whats the trans build

i tried a lucio beat build but honestly it was kinda underwhelming

we need more ult spam like ashe bob or sigma flux

[fallow socket]

the beat build is just ontop of the soundwave heal build

[bright briar]

yah its nothing special.

dva has the best ult build in the game

ok just trying a zen ult build

immediately encounter a bug

the ult duration item and the refund ult thing dont exactly work

[turbid kiln]

they do work what

the transendence build you need these items(all high round)

but catalytic crystal is important and

so is the bottom left item

it gives overhealth to 100% of healing done by transendence

also the harmony orb on you builds ult charge aswell

this build is really good if your tank is running a survival build

[bright briar]

bottom left item, the one that extends ult duration by 30%

atleast in practice range. the timer gets broken

you can be on 75% during the ult, cancel, and then it drops the ult% to like... 60%

the timer seems to be bugged with it, atleast in pr

[bright briar]

does the 25% ult min + 15% ult min combo w/ the 75% cancel thing

ww/ dva i always run the 25% ult charge item just because it helps spam ults faster but

idk if it would combo w/ zens cancel thing. practice range these items dont work

[turbid kiln]

The 25% starting ult?

[bright briar]

oui

cus the ult duration extender grants 15% ult charge aswell

so that means a starting ult of 35% base

oh no

"mind shaper" gives the 15%

[turbid kiln]

ya i wouldnt waste a slot on the 25% starting ult charge

you get your ult super fast anyway

so its useless lowkey

also they wont work in practice range

since a round has to start for them to trigger

[bright briar]

chop

[split flint]

I just had an entire game where I was having more picks on Zen than both of my DPS, and I was putting more effort into healing than killing mfs. And one of our DPS decided to leave the game after being manhandled by poor positioning.

[turbid kiln]

lmfao

report

him

https://tenor.com/view/report-block-blocked-reported-die-gif-2717402674895639042

[split flint]

Like dude, almost every game I have, I have fewer deaths, more picks, and if I'm on support, significant heals compared to my team. Like when I see these mfs play, I'm completely amused.

[split flint]

Like brother, I had almost more healing than our main support as a pocket healer, I almost had more picks than our Tank, and I was putting more effort into healing than getting picks, and somehow I got more picks than our DPS.

Like It's a joke

Oh wait this is Stadium discussion. My bad.

[reef lichen]

who is the most broken support hero in stadium

[neon galleon]

Juno, Moira, Mercy

[nocturne sandal]

Soldier 76

[turbid kiln]

Mercy really?

[main jungle]

Mercy has been busted since launch, like consistently top 3 and hasn't been nerfed despite the major nerfs to characters around her

[split moth]

i was making an ana build and when i saved it i saw something called flex? what is it

[pulsar warren]

Guys does both weapon and ability power make ur dragon blade stronger?

Nvm Ill just check in practice range

Both do indeed make dragon blade stronger

[bright briar]

melee damage also scales with it apparently

it scales w/ all the stats lol

[neon galleon]

Yes, Mercy with the power that lets her ult automatically apply both beams without her input AND actually buying what boosts the beam can make Valkyrie one of the most dangerous ults to go against, plus the beams are applied even if Mercy has the gun out, meaning during that ult she can properly join in the fight, so now imagine everyone on her team getting constantly healed, having a damage boost applied to them, AND the Mercy, who I believe also gets the damage boost and would have to specifically boost weapon power and fire rate to improve her healing, can also join in on the damage. Also the auto chain has ridiculous range and for some reason even if that auto chain can’t reach her team, whoever her staff is targeting still chains the beams. The ONLY reason Mercy isn’t tiered as high as Juno and Moira is her greater reliance on her team

[neon galleon]

Yeah Genji is the only character currently in Stadium that wants to go true hybrid

[stray iron]

Does dvas lava scale with her ability power

Like if I had 100% into ability power would the lava then do 160 per second

[bright briar]

yes

[stray iron]

And this is indicated by the ability symbol on the power selection screen right

[lethal bay]

What’s the point of building ult charge junkrat when his rip tire hp doesn’t scale?

[main jungle]

Omg, I one tricked Genji to Pro and never knew this, that's wild (if only ap Genji wasn't awful compared to melee)

[neon galleon]

Fun thing is, it’s equal scaling for Dragon Blade, 50% WP will scale the same as 50% AP and it will scale the same as getting 25% for both of them. So for example if you get Phantasmic Flux, that’s 20% extra damage on blade and 30% extra lifesteal on it for just 10000 cash.

This also means Dragon Blade can get the most scaled out of any attack in the game

[sudden bridge]

Any plans to release more win rate data or was that just a one time deal

[fallow socket]

I thought coal being boosted by ap and wp was good

blade is just disgusting

[neon galleon]

…I don’t think Coalescence is affected by WP…?

[bright briar]

i think they mean WS

weapon speed for some reason scales coals tickrate

[neon galleon]

Huh, weird, kinda like how WS speeds up how quickly Dva fires all her missiles out

Btw focusing on WS for her missiles is nowhere near worth it, you need like 70% WS just for the entire micro missile volley to come out at the same speed as the heavy missile volley

[bright briar]

i wonder if genjis 60% melee lifesteal power scales w/ blade

yes. it does

that + flux, you have 90% lifesteal on blade.

[fallow socket]

ih yeah was sorry

ws*

[bright briar]

wait blade is also scaled by ws lol

speed genji is actually kind of good o.o

[neon galleon]

Unironically Blade can be the most scaled attack in the game-

[neon galleon]

It also affects the one slash from the power so once the animation to pull it out finishes Genji can potentially just immediately swing and get the damage out

[bright briar]

its a shame genji doesnt have any deflect reset things

like "hitting 3 people with blade refunds 50% of deflect cd"

[neon galleon]

It’s probably fair that there isn’t one, there IS already a Genji build where you just stay behind Deflect most of the game

And of course there are very few things in Stadium that outright ignore Deflect no matter what the Genji gets.

Rock and I think Genji’s own swift strike are the only 2 non ult stuff that Genji can’t already deflect or can’t get something to let him deflect in Stadium

[bright briar]

genji blade builds are actually so good yeesh.

i am AWFUL at genji but oml that thing is so good

[neon galleon]

I just had a second point of Throne take like over half the damn match just for us to take it and get the mercy rule win-

The worse part is only the enemy JQ was building to be some semblance of tanky, that was just how back and worth that damn point was-

[main jungle]

Pin.

[neon galleon]

Ok, the 2 reliable things that Deflect can’t stop

[bright briar]

does ashes "damage dealt to burning targets grants 20% more ult" work for the burn itself

nvm seems like it does

[neon galleon]

Yes, it affects everything she does

Also why am I constantly getting dps that somehow can’t piece it together that Zen is a damn problem on the enemy team right now?

[turbid kiln]

so they nerf meis slow ball but they dont nerf queens axe build cool

because 30% slow is worse then queen one shotting people with axes

nice

makes sense

i dont think your build choices should revolve this much around a single character in the game

[neon galleon]

And now I got a Dva that just dms, demechs, and dies

And by that I mean she immediately fully uses up Defense Matrix as soon as she encounters the enemy and then wonders why she just immediately gets melted

[neon galleon]

What’s worse is she picked facetanking as her first power

[woven thicket]

Hi hello, ive been trying to build around meis newest perk and i dont know what im missing

Why wouldnt I choose icicle every time

Over spraying primary with blizzard wall

[turbid kiln]

what new perk?

[livid marsh]

just won a stadium match, most of my matches i get like 125-250% bc calibrations,this time i won and got zero %?

[woven thicket]

Aw beans sorry for the delay

The perk that gives a 20% increase to primary fire when the enemy is in a blizzard

[neon galleon]

Only thing I can think of is combining it with the perk that spawns a wall wherever you want and the perk that makes the wall have a blizzard aoe around it

[neon galleon]

Trap them with the wall and then while the blizzard aoe is affecting them just start spraying at them

[woven thicket]

Yeah but my issue isnt how to use it

Its finding a reason to use it

[woven thicket]

Spike has higher dps body shot wise and can crit. I can also just spec into weapon power and just get the blizzard wall ability

I think the idea is to give ap builds some weapon power in the moments between the cooldown of abilities. But its way easier and cost effective to go ice wall blizzard +weapon power or icewall blizzard and some other ap ability

[neon galleon]

I mean….I’ve seen the idea make Orisas extremely pissed off-

[zealous escarp]

Just finished a Rein game with 115k, fire strike build. It was a 0-3 comeback lol I was going insane mentally and in game

[livid orchid]

Does the projectile from Genji's "Dragon Breath" perk count as ability-damage or weapon-damage?

In the practice range it seems to be affected by both stats.

Is it like an ability-damage projectile that derives its original damage from a weapon-damage skill (dragonblade)?

[turbid kiln]

I think it scales off of dragonblade

So prolly both

[livid orchid]

After a bit more testing it looks like thats gotta be it. Both stats seem to raise the damage of the projectile an equal amount

https://imgur.com/a/ELi5udv

[livid orchid]

Both is right. Yeah

[turbid kiln]

ahh knew it\

[main jungle]

Blade is so weird, it scales off AP but doesn't deal ability damage as nitro and antidote don't apply, haven't tested if catalyst gives extra ult charge off of it though but I'd assume not

[livid orchid]

Whoaw. The projectile ALSO scales with melee damage. Because dragonblade is melee damage. I juat tested it

This projectile literally scales with everything

[subtle hill]

I’m not sure why, but all of the Reapers that I get on my team are not having g a good day today

[proven knot]

he’s rly like rng in stadium

very hit or miss

some games he just can’t do anything

[subtle hill]

Yeah, like every game mode with some heroes.

Is there a current meta? I haven’t been able to play much or watch much recently

[proven knot]

Yes. Reaper is bad.

Hitscan is good

[subtle hill]

Got it. I’ll keep that in mind while I play

[neon galleon]

I find that even in the games where the enemy comp is stacked against you as a Reaper, you can still get some plays in if you work with your team and know what you’re doing, problem is this is near impossible in solo queue and most of the other dps aren’t as reliant on this, especially the top tiers in Stadium

Reaper can get success that some of the other dps can’t since he has his own flank playstyle in the form of what I call chain killing, but he HAS to have a weak link in that chain to target first in order to start it up, and in matches where the enemy comp is hostile to him, he needs his team to create that weak chain to start at.

[sudden bridge]

Eh you can hit legend pretty easy with mini ult and bubble

[neon galleon]

You’d have to get damn lucky then cause death step is inconsistent at best and plain throwing at worst

[sudden bridge]

Youd be surprised how effective it is when your average player in a lobby is gold

Specially with a zarya with any brain cells

Pair with bubble increase DMG and your basically guaranteed kills

Which means your zarya can easily mop up the rest

[neon galleon]

Sombras that just annoy the shit out of the enemy still work in Gold that isn’t exactly high praise

[sudden bridge]

Not really a serious mode that said it's still pretty good we don't really know the current win rates though since the last data set was s1

And even that isnt really reliable since we need a breakdown on builds

That said hitting all star on any hero should be relatively easy for any diamond level player even junk and ana 😀

[neon galleon]

You say that and yet the matchmaking system of Stadium and the teammates I have gotten say otherwise

[sudden bridge]

Well certain heroes are easier to carry the lobby with but that doesn't mean reaper is bad or has a low win rate since we have no idea what those are

Id be surprised if it wasnt close to 50 but they really should update us wit those

[proven sphinx]

stadium keeps disconnecting me i can't

[sudden bridge]

Wow they are actually doing the win rate pick rate website

[boreal ruin]

Can we gut stadium rein? Tired of inbred children of mongoloids playing the easiest tank that gamemode will ever see.

Want to play JQ, Zarya? Nope, they have rein.
Want to play Sigma? Too bad, they have rein again.
You're not a hitscan? You guessed it, rein!

Im not going back to that shit until he's dead and buried.
Singlehandedly kills variety.

[sudden bridge]

Zarya out scales rein pretty rare that i lose to rein unless he just outright has the better team

Don’t really have a problem with queen either you can flat out just murder him

[neon galleon]

Which type of Rein build are you struggling with?

[forest coral]

i feel like most heroes just have an answer to outmanuever that hero

like as queen you just position in a way where you dont play for tank trade with rein and if he wants to tank trade he has to take a terrible position to get to you

[neon galleon]

Yeah a lot of tank stuff can fuck Rein over, there are a few dps that can build to fuck him over, and even some of the supports can fuck him over, not even including the fact that he would need a fair bit of luck to kill Freja and Juno

[flint drift]

came back to overwatch after a year a week ago and im elite 1 in tank its probably the most fun rein has ever been to play

[sudden bridge]

Well queen high higher burst then rein so late rounds double axe can just melt him and you can’t really be charged by him and you can just ult past him multiple times a round rein isn’t really a problem.

Not to mention half the stadium reins are complete bone heads that charge into really bad positions all the time

Like round 1 can be a problem for zarya but even that round isn’t guaranteed

[wet jackal]

Try jq

Any queen build is loads of fun but I recommend a build that focuses on ap so very heavily reliant on knife lands and axe

Shout builds are alright

[lethal bay]

What’s the point of building ult charge junkrat when his rip tire hp doesn’t scale?

[proven knot]

because its still a one shot on a lot of targets

[ebon current]

Guys why do people build Ashe burning builds when wp seems like a better choice

I do not understand my freinds

[proven knot]

everybody is running ap actually

it's a good build

[ebon current]

What is ap

[ebon current]

Is it?

[proven knot]

ability power

burning

[ebon current]

Yeh isn’t that burning damage?

I think you misunderstood what I said originally

[copper oar]

been in queue for 12 minutes for my first stadium match in 2 seasons
why is everyone trying to play healer

[ebon current]

Because healer is fun

[proven knot]

No I didn’t

AP (burning) is the common Ashe build

WP is less common

[ebon current]

Yes but wp is supperior

[proven knot]

How so?

[sudden bridge]

burning generates more money

more money = more dmg faster

most meta builds priorities money to snowball

and popular builds tend to be on the easier side, but I mean if you think you can out perform burn with your aim go for it

[turbid kiln]

The burn kills you so quick

[sudden bridge]

also there's not many fliers yet so

[main jungle]

If they have a Kiri, 100% build WP, you are genuinely greifing otherwise because she can farm rush in a heart beat. However otherwise WP is just less consistent, sure on paper hitting all headshots definitely out-dpsing burn, but with how mobile a lot of characters are, that's not happening. Burn also has more utility since it can apply slow with liquid nitrogen, hit around corners, get through deflect (a good Genji is an Ashe's worst fear), and build way more ult charge. AP also buffs Bob, keeping him a consistent threat through rounds, and can easily win team fights by himself.

[drowsy token]

Is Cassidy's Quick Draw perk bugged or is it just garbage?

It is so inconsistent

[turbid kiln]

is that the one that homes?

[bright briar]

if they have a kiri AP ashe is still just better honestly. you just take that item that grants ult upon cleanse and take 50% bob.

[drowsy token]

Yeah

[turbid kiln]

nah it’s just booty

[bright mesa]

does anyone have a good soldier 76 build?

[sudden bridge]

Wp or Ap pew pew

https://stadiumbuilds.io/browse?heroes=soldier-76

Can browse for what you like some is matchup dependent for what’s best

[fathom ermine]

are there any new tricks to dodging and flying with mercy with the item that lets the guardian angel cooldown start sooner? i feel like I'm playing a completely different character compared to the ones that i play against that just zoom everywhere at mach speed when they start actively dodging my shots

[meager spindle]

i hate rein in stadium

[meager spindle]

theres a few powers on mercy which give her like a 1sec cd on ga

thats probably it

angelic acrobatics and resurrection rangefinder are the 2 i use to have quite a fast ga cd however there is more dc reduction items u can use also to make it prettu much inf

[neon galleon]

There is an item that makes the cooldown start going down sooner

[neon galleon]

Unless you grab cushioned padding, cause then that burn gets greatly reduced in strength

[turbid kiln]

i aint wasting a slot brotron sorry

[nocturne sandal]

Idk if its just me but I feel like im getting terrible people as my tank whenever I que for stadium

I had 2 games where my dva NEVER used defense matrix, and another one where my rine went 5-9 the ENTIRE stadium game (we somehow won 4-0 on that game but our Rine literally did nothing the entire game)

[neon galleon]

Effectively neutering Ana, Ashe, and JQ isn’t something I would call wasting a slot. Even all the stuns get shortened AND they cause you to get healed.

Heck I tested and confirmed that it even affects self-inflicted ones like Nebula Conduit

[turbid kiln]

ahhh interesting

[neon galleon]

If it’s treated as a negative condition whatsoever, Cushioned Padding affects it.

[turbid kiln]

soo

Do you think the dps healing reduction counts?

[neon galleon]

It’s a negative affect so I’d say yes

After all it affects Nebula which is self inflicted

That should mean it also affects stuff like tommy gun

[brittle cobalt]

I’m a Kiri main and I just encountered a match with an Ashe, junkrat, Ana,mercy, and dva… I DONT HAVE ENOUGH SUZUS FOR ALL THIS FIRE AND BRIMSTONE 😭😭😭💔💔💔💔

[neon galleon]

Get everyone to buy Cushioned Padding if the enemy has that many negative effects

Especially the tank as it can make stuns and anti go away almost immediately

[brittle cobalt]

You are such a life saver, I had no idea this even existed

[neon galleon]

Fun fact it also affects self inflicted ones like Nebula Conduit, meaning you can make Nebula permanently negate some of the damage you take

[brittle cobalt]

I’m a pro kiri and junk but despite my usual builds I literally never take the time to look at what other options there are, I had no clue u could do that

[brittle cobalt]

That’s cool as hell!!

[neon galleon]

I would be weary though, I believe Nebula has a bug that could permanently lock you out of your passive health regen until a cleanse of some kind if that 15% damage over time is at a certain value

[livid marsh]

The better gamemode

[neon galleon]

Only noticed it when I had it on Dva on both the original test with padding and in a match as Dva, I had used it before that point as Reaper but I more than likely never noticed it as Wraith would have most likely cleansed the Nebula damage and allow my health regen to turn back on

[nocturne sandal]

Thats actually crazy ngl thank you for telling me about this

[civic oxide]

what is nebula conduit

[runic ginkgo]

what eats JQ axe swing? Dva anti barrier, orisa reflect, genji reflect, sigma absorb, did i miss some? and i think you can hit sigma and dva from the back, but not genji or orisa.

[civic oxide]

dva doesnt eat axe

neither does sigma grasp

they are matrixes that only eat projectiles

[runic ginkgo]

interesting, i thought it at least ate the wound portion

[civic oxide]

no

[runic ginkgo]

gotta make every axe swing count around here

[quaint escarp]

90% of this sentence is wrong

[runic ginkgo]

it was actually a question, mainly, with a thought process. feel free to give the correct information.

[quaint escarp]

genji is the only one out of those that can stop axe. and all the character can be shoot from behind when blocking (grasp deflect etc)

[nocturne sandal]

Rare stadium survival item

[hexed delta]

I love losing a match because of 50 fucking ping so amazing

[nocturne sandal]

???

i play normally on 50 ping whats the problem?

Is it stuttering or rubberbanding thats the problem or are you just spoiled with fast internet

[lethal bay]

What’s the meta in stadium

Played a match and entire team got bullied by zarya

And our Orisa didn’t go any anti beam item(s) 😔

[neon galleon]

It’s an epic survival item, basically it negates 15% of the damage you take and instead makes you take that 15% over time.

It’s a nice item to grab if you need to turn that burst damage into something you can actually heal off in a long fight but it’s not strong enough to trigger divine intervention

[runic ginkgo]

dont think it was the 50 ping that lost, but sometimes small mistakes add up

like going behind a wall for 2 seconds instead of 0.5 seconds

healers miss the ability to keep you alive

[runic ginkgo]

people who leave right after character select, you scared youre going to lose? lol.

[fathom ermine]

is 50 ping not good enough lol
we used to be very happy with 100 back in the day, even in fps games. 50 is a green bar to me.

[neon galleon]

I forgot to mention that as a Reaper, it also felt like Nebula helped a fair bit in allowing me to further fight against Zarya

[sharp current]

Howdo you unlock the stadium profile icons

[true pollen]

what site do you guys use when you want to look at stadiumm builds ?

[nocturne sandal]

another scam??

Why in this chat specifically (I wonder)

[nocturne sandal]

stadiumbuilds.io

[nocturne sandal]

Kiriko and Soldier are must picks

[nocturne sandal]

Use at least 2 powers from every example build for a single character

[nocturne sandal]

ig he must be spoiled with an ethernet cable and high speed internet cuz I get 50-60 ping with random spikes from time to time on my wireless computer

[fallow socket]

soldier is too easy to bully

but if no one challenges him he can definitely cause the most damage out of all other dps

[proven knot]

you get random spikes because ur playing wireless

[nocturne sandal]

No way!!?? Really??? 😱

[lethal bay]

😂😂

[graceful musk]

Genuine question: what makes zar good or what are common mistakes when using her? I’ve seen so much praise of her in stadium but whenever I use her I feel like do no dmg and blow up. I usually go for no limits and then the pierce one

[bright briar]

bad zarya runs into 5 people, spends both bubbles, and dies after reaching 80 charge and dealing 300 dmg

good zarya runs into 5 people, spends both bubbles, and gets 4 kills

hope this helps

[fathom ermine]

ive had pretty decent success playing mercy and damage boosting my friend playing zarya speccing for weapon power stuff

pierce and lifesteal goes crazy, and she can even build tanky afterwards to truly make them suffer

at 100 energy, always full because you eventually get perks that punish them for not breaking it, thats 190 dps x 1.3 =249 piercing dps, 257 dps if i get the +5% dmg boost mercy item. goes to 280ish dps with the 125 max energy upgrade

thats without weapon power or attackspeed accounted for lol

mercy can give damage resistance and lifesteal when damage boosting too, you create a raid boss

[neon galleon]

Another thing to note with Zarya is that a good stadium team is GOING to try to immediately kill you before you can scale out of control, so you really gotta be careful with when you go in guns blazing

[graceful musk]

Thanks so far. I feel like I get high charge and don’t die but all my dmg is pointless.

That or I get run over immediately.

[neon galleon]

Yeah the worst thing to do against Zarya right now is to be indecisive on going for the kill on her

[graceful musk]

K thanks

[nocturne sandal]

I know how to play Zarya but what are some builds or specific items in stadium that could help me?

From what I've gathered, I've been fairly successful using AP to scale my bubbles along with using Barrier Benefits to provide value to expired bubbles and life lift to to allow my bubbles to scale with my hp and make it easier to gain charge.

Specifically in my AP builds, I use Volskaya Vortex to get in cheap damage that scales with AP along with Pre-Workout or Piercing beam for extra survivability or damage

(My build: MQ7B4)

this channel is dead asf bro

they need to remove this channel

[proven knot]

I was gonna answer when I got home smh

[proven knot]

here this is what i use

https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/5f28948d-8f96-4393-9d89-6b27c23415ab

use the item that gives you more knockback on secondary for mobility on height maps

[nocturne sandal]

Thank you 🙏🏾

[bright briar]

does zar weapon speed scale equally with WP like moira/mercy

shes DOT so im guessing its the same, where 20% WS WP > 40%WP/WS

[timber hearth]

Does gacha bombs random bomb effect apply to rainin' lead or is it just the explosion radius increase?

[proven knot]

What does that mean? How would scaling be different

@cursive nymph hey lol

[cursive nymph]

Already nuked but thanks

[proven knot]

you can’t delete the post?

[cursive nymph]

Oh right

Yea

There you go

[proven knot]

delete mine too

do it janny

[cursive nymph]

🤬

You can delete your own messages

[proven knot]

yes i can

[neon galleon]

Then you’ll have people complaining that there isn’t a channel for Stadium

[proven knot]

we’d just post in ows and get flamed for playing stadium xd

[timber hearth]

I like stadium because it allows me to fly around and rain bombs on people as junkrat (I mean more than usual)

[neon galleon]

Speaking of Stadium just had a charging Rein on our team and when I asked him to help us with the Genji that is purposely going for me as a Zen and our Ana, I basically got told to pound sand

[last cairn]

dis channel is so tuff

[hallow glen]

https://tenor.com/view/sh-quiet-india-indian-tiktok-gif-16906342

i keep forgetting this is a channel

[last cairn]

lemme add it 2 my channel list

i was wunderin why i couldnt c it

[hallow glen]

thats why tho cuz it wasnt on my list

[last cairn]

same

[proven knot]

sounds like my type of tank player ngl

thats so me

[neon galleon]

The problem was the Genji was specifically waiting for the Rein to charge in to go after us, so the moment he tried to go in, the Genji kept us from following and more often than not killed both of us

[proven knot]

Real talk though Rein had no way to help you there. The alternative would be never going in but it’s not like he’s gonna kill genji

genji too nimble

[neon galleon]

Except whenever our Rein did end up fighting their Genji, he was consistently able to win, I just wanted the Rein to at least not immediately go full speed ahead

[proven knot]

Wait how

[neon galleon]

Letting us actually catch up after his first charge at the start of the match

[proven knot]

Oh so what you mean is

he didn’t feed and you guys killed him?

[neon galleon]

…..no I mean he didn’t let us get close enough to go in with him

Cause consistently as soon as he saw the enemy team he went full speed ahead and consistently each time, the Genji took his chance at us

[proven knot]

am i defending a plat rein

level with me

[neon galleon]

I didn’t check his profile but he was an ass about telling us to deal with him ourselves

[proven knot]

did he die immediately going in

or did he get kills

[neon galleon]

He usually got a kill from the charge impact since he was putting so much into AP….and then dies not too long after because we had no help with the Genji. Didn’t help either that the Mei didn’t even bother trying to help-

[proven knot]

oh plat rein

ggs my bad

I was on the wrong side of history on this one

[neon galleon]

He was also especially an ass about it cause the Genji had gotten me one time with the deflect itself cause he suddenly used it and I was too low on health to survive my own orb

[proven knot]

ap rein is kinda troll

it’s just fishing for one shots

[neon galleon]

If it’s aggressive Firestrike it can work, that style is mainly about weaving Firestrikes into brawl situations

[proven knot]

eh maybe

but you know more often than not they’re building it to one shot stuff with pin

[neon galleon]

I prefer building firestrikes with AP, building Firestrikes in particular increase Shatter’s value thanks to blazing blitz

[twilit vine]

does stadium not have rank based match making?

[proven knot]

no

[nocturne sandal]

I be getting ppl who have less than 10 hours as tanks whenever I play support

[main jungle]

It's MMR based, not ranked based, really only matters in regards to new players. As someone plays more, their MMR will align more with their rank

[cursive nymph]

Hey guys wanna see something weird

[autumn crescent]

i just had a 15 minute long stadium round 😭
kiri and lucio support has so much sustain, and there were 2 dvas as tanks

SQ93QA

[bright briar]

is the video like 140p for anyone else LMAO

its just moving blobs of pixels and then dvas 2 guns

[autumn crescent]

id say 380p but loool

[neon galleon]

I have an idea on what happened with the second image. Basically Dva’s Defense Matrix has to turn the projectile it eats into Dva’s ownership before it can delete it, which is also how Dva can end up “healing” with DM via eating a Moira heal orb, if I had to guess, whatever killed Ana only got the kill after ownership was transferred over to you and because of that, you got credited for the kill

[bright briar]

i think the real answer is far simpler. dva got fed up with ana not healing her

[cursive nymph]

Unfortunately uploading from a phone download off the Xbox app is horrid

[frozen reef]

i dont get how i go 117-10 on dva and bc my team lost i still lost so much and deranked

[stark cloud]

Funny, mine are usually good

[lethal bay]

Crazy af

[lethal bay]

I’m waiting for that Ram Mythic

[proven knot]

that’s true i did

this orange name is a team killer

[lethal bay]

who should i play and what build to counter freja?

i cant even have fun in Novice level...

[bright briar]

freja can be negated on DPS. pretty much all the dps in stadium atm i think can counter eachother.

excluding junkrat who uhh... does not

[lethal bay]

Played soldier 76 auto-aim helix build

Man is he strong

[bright briar]

welp

the shields you get from dvas "Solo spec" (matrix = up to 100 shields)

it doesnt scale w/ her slam power.

the bonus 100 shields should be giving +30 dmg 😭

actually neither of them do

the other shield granting item doesnt scale either

[bright briar]

lifesteal on junkerqueen is also seemingly broken

i guess "broken" is the wrong word because wounds is separate self heal. but ability power ends ups scaling better. +8 AP vs +6 LS.

yeah. abiltiy lifesteal is about ~50% the healing of pure ability power on jq aoe wounds

[proven knot]

that makes sense

they’re temporary shields right?

[bright briar]

sorta. theyre perma as long as u dont demech. but the power only works in mech so for all intensive purposes its perma

[proven knot]

eh

[bright briar]

it kinda ruins the scaling of this power ngl.

[proven knot]

yeah I can understand it not working

[bright briar]

the max damage you could achieve with her slam would require those 2 items for a potential +300 shields

and then +15% for the scale item.

[proven knot]

the scale item?

[bright briar]

item which increases all health types by +15%

[proven knot]

right

[bright briar]

sadly with that not scaling. slams max dmg is 244 from what i can tell

but that requires using 2 blues (100 hp ones to shield/armour)

[proven knot]

I think realistically

a slam build wouldn’t actually max out the damage on it

[bright briar]

good for early game but that power doesnt really scale well

because the best armour/shield items are just blues

[proven knot]

I’d say the disruption is the real value of it

combined with the fact that building sustain boosts the power

[bright briar]

it defo combos with other powers very well. like the lava one

but its definately like, a secondary power. the main power there is lava

oh and matrix = healing one

[proven knot]

facetanking is incredibly broken

[bright briar]

im not saying its a bad power. but it just scales extremely poorly

[proven knot]

I think your best bet with slam is just treating it as a secondary source of burst damage instead of trying to make it your only real source of damage

ya it does

[bright briar]

early game that thing is insanely good

its like mercy's chain power

[proven knot]

i still havent used it this season

they nuked my best slam build

[bright briar]

i was running dvas bomb build off the assumption it was still 200%

i only realized the other day it was 100% now 😭 i was wondering why my stupid bombs weren't getting as many kills

[proven knot]

eh bomb build is overrated tbh. even before the nerf

[bright briar]

i really wish tehyd didnt nerf it. it was so fun

[proven knot]

it was a bit ridiculous

[bright briar]

the bomb radius + indicator make it not as good

it was. but honestly like

playing against the dva bomb build was so fun like

it kinda shifted the entire game to trying to save a movement ability

its not bad now but like... it was probably the most fun build in the game

also uh

ugh ok i cant send pictures still. despite being in this server since like 2019 or something.
but dvas "drop lava when using bomb" item

that thing really needs to be inverted

it spawns it ontop of dva but like... it'd be alot more interesting if it was at the bomb location

[proven knot]

idk

power just seems worthless

i dont even know what they could do with it

[bright briar]

it can be extremely good in niche scenarios.

OT or contesting in like, colosseo. the lava lasts for a very long time

so u can remech. and the lava contributes to ult charge

[bright briar]

ok does ability lifesteal not work with dvas lava

i have 60% and i have 0 healing

[proven knot]

ig not

[bright briar]

in practice range i get healed alot

[proven knot]

it can trigger cybervenom tho

[bright briar]

then in an actual game it literally doesnt do anything.
edit: it does actually self heal, but it doesnt reward currency making it literally useless (bc it doesnt proc scoreboard or smthn)

[proven knot]

@forest coral oh my god this legendary loadout damage bug is annoying

the loss in damage is noticeable

i am actually struggling to kill through sustain now

[forest coral]

what’s the bug

[proven knot]

old damage was 166

new damage is 126

nerf was 350% to 325%

a 25% reduction would not reduce the damage that much

[forest coral]

that’s why I think meka punch is good

if I can force defensive cds with just meka punch then missile build can fuck em up

[proven knot]

Yeah

Problem is I cannot get double melees

[forest coral]

dont have to worry as much about deflects and bubbles since I can force those with punch

[proven knot]

But man

that’s a huge damage loss

[forest coral]

go to modmail ask for quinquennial role

[forest coral]

do you think facetanking has potential with bomb build

[proven knot]

it’s actually ridiculous that it hasn’t been fixed yet

[proven knot]

when would you choose it

[forest coral]

against comps like reaper zen that can just spam your matrix heal

[proven knot]

i think facetanking is mad broken

i think bomb build is kind of a meme tho

[forest coral]

do you think it could work as the ace of defensive builds

face tanking + slam + bomb build or smth

[proven knot]

I think facetanking is broken on both offense and defense builds

id consider it a must pick

[forest coral]

do you think leg loadout is even worth it anymore if you’re only going partially missiles

[proven knot]

i dont know. Hard to say. It does less damage than regular missiles now

[forest coral]

like I’m wondering if just getting double missiles and playing for three tap Tommy and mark of kitsune would be better than leg loadout

[proven knot]

But it has higher dps which is kind of relevant

Maybe I’ll try some games going double missiles first

and choosing like idk

toki slam or lava later

[forest coral]

I think in pure missile build leg loadout is prob still really important but I think double missiles edges over if you can abuse ttt and kitsune

[proven knot]

It’s hard to say

But yeah abusing those 2 items is still good

Idk. Maybe slam can make up for the dps loss of not having loadout?

[mint geyser]

stadium matchmaking is not great.. All-star suppose to play within 10 divisions or whatever. I just had a game with 2 novice and 3 contenders. Im all-star 1

[bright briar]

ok i take it back big time

dvas slam might not scale well into late game. but i think most comps cant deal with it and the game ends at r3

by r3 the slam will be doing >220 damage aoe on a 4s cooldown

i end up with almost 1200hp, most of which is armour/shield

at r3 u take matrix heal so even if they survive the slams. u just outheal and spam ults bc it generates ult so quickly

[forest coral]

my biggest issue is that my tank is almost always just awful

when I’m playing with friends I just somehow get the worst tank in existence against a competent tank I don’t get it

[proven knot]

yeah…

[forest coral]

makes me feel like damn do I have to play tank every game but I don’t want to play dva every game I want to run it down as lucio or reaper

[proven knot]

i hate having to fight gms on dps

when im dia and low rank in stadium

feels like i have to play tank or supp

[forest coral]

its like I wouldn’t mind fighting a gm tank if my tank wasn’t plat

[proven knot]

also,

getting junkrat players feels rly
awful

he legit does nothing

[forest coral]

looked at my tanks profile in one of my games and his last placed tank rank was gold 2 like wtf is this guy ever doing in my lobby

their tank sure as hell didn’t play like a gold

[forest coral]

yep

[proven knot]

like i get a junkrat on my team its like gg go again

its that bad

[forest coral]

half the time I’m locked in a really intense match going all the way and we’re just barely behind and no matter what I do I can’t clutch it then I look and see I have a damn junker

[proven knot]

its so crazy too

even getting like

moirs/mercy back in t500

didnt feel nearly this bad

[forest coral]

worst t)8!( is when you get someone who has an insane winrate on like genji or cass or another good hero and bc of that their mmr is really high

and then they just decide they want to play junkrat specifically the game they’re on my team

so the enemy team has an actual high mmr dps and I have a junker

[proven knot]

god idk why they even added him

not fun to play with or against

[forest coral]

I mean I kinda said this when the mode first released but they can’t add any dps to this mode that won’t make it worse

maybe sojourn but like one shots ..

and like wow junk and frejer have both made this mode less fun to play

[proven knot]

maybe

idk

at the very least tho

i just dont want them to add dps that actually guarantee me a loss if i have them on my team

which i think is a pretty low bar

[compact flare]

Which good ana builds you people like to use on stadium? I have only tried the no scope weapon build. Which I have been liking quite a lot. But I kinda want good options too

[proven knot]

https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/07a78d9c-3f33-4263-be07-d6a455cb9a2c

most fun build ive ever used. Choose dash boots round 2 tho

other than that the build is perfect

[compact flare]

Ohhh it has similar late game powers. I'll try it for sure

[fallow socket]

dash boots and sleep regimen are so good then u can just do whqtever u want on top

[forest coral]

just feels weird seeing a build not abusing super sleep

not even to farm sleep regimen hp early

[proven knot]

its pretty manageable to farm tbh

and super sleep = the bigger sleep item?

[forest coral]

yeah

[proven knot]

yeah its fine without

you get so tanky so early

[neon galleon]

I mean even if healing from it doesn’t give you money I’ve seen Dva’s get a shit ton of money purely from the lava damage

[fathom ermine]

ya not to mention healing means you stay alive longer to deal more damage and make more money lol

if there was an item that killed an enemy player the second you pressed a button but it granted no money, it'd be a no brainer to take it. not granting money doesnt really mean anything

[neon galleon]

….the lava isn’t a single press delete button, that comparison doesn’t really work-

[bright briar]

Sure but for the self heal from lava to be worth it, you have to invest more into self heal than AP which makes it largely not a worthy investment

honestly slam dva might be the best money maker for dva. small sample size but i tried that build 4 times last night and every game ended at r3 and i'd pretty much end every round with like 15-16k min

[neon galleon]

It might be? I mean the last Lava Dva I fought managed to get to like 70k by round 7

[bright briar]

lava dva is defo a really fun build. its extremely good against rein/jq.

i think the best strat with a lava build though is to build into that at r5, maybe.

still trying to find the strongest brawler-style dva build. but from what I can tell atm.
Slam -> Matrix heal -> Lava -> ????

If you go for a slam build and are at R5, you probably need to pivot because slam won't scale anymore. so switching to AP and then going Lava/Missile build prob is the best strat

slam maxes out at R4/5, after that missiles/lava will scale infinitely better

but lava/missiles dont scale well in the early game so a mid-game shift is probably the best approach... maybe

[forest coral]

been picking up the lucio lately is this hero dumb or what

[velvet cypress]

Does kiriko’s donut delivery heal herself

[bright briar]

no

something fun about this power. it only evaluates the closest player, and if they are full hp, it doesnt spawn another ofuda

It's actually so broken that it includes enemies in the search

It searches for the closest player, regardless of team. If theyre healthy, it doesnt search again and just stops.

the actual healing sent out is also incorrect.
the first target is given 30%, but the second is 45%.

[fathom ermine]

did the devs overhaul the practice range or is this a custom map? ive been approximating things with the basic range for testing so this looks amazing

[bright briar]

its a workshop code by cactuspuppy 7JRMA

[proven knot]

@cursive nymph nuke

[cursive nymph]

[bright briar]

people are sleeping on this item. it combos with a LOT of powers and items

[fallow socket]

i wonder if it works with sigma’s melee power so you can strike someone and then dump a full main attack into them for 25% extra damage

[void crow]

Yep it works

The item pairs really well with his ult and his hero item

[fallow socket]

ohh yeah that hero item

[fallow socket]

this is cool tho might start choosing it over rock cd

[void crow]

I also use it for Ana

With her hero item again 😭

Bc you deal 20% more damage to airborne targets

[void crow]

If they have flying characters

And then I play the oneshot build basically

[compact flare]

I wish I was good at ana. I have played like 4 matches with her yesterday, it was really hard

Genji and junkrat sucks to heal too

[gaunt sorrel]

best support comp in all stars?

[gaunt sorrel]

what’s the code to that custom?

[neon galleon]

Depends on who your dps and tank are, but Moira, Juno, Mercy are the top 3 supports in Stadium

[gaunt sorrel]

moira isnt able to do much and juno kinda fell off in stadium tho

[neon galleon]

@proven knot something tells me the devs are gonna nerf Dva’s income at some point cause I’ve been seeing a lot of Reddit posts about Dva players managing to make a bunch of money

[neon galleon]

Juno’s missile damage never got touched in Stadium, just how often you can spam them and how tanky you can be. As for Moira, you try fighting a team that has a Moira whose orbs both slow you down and make you get less healing from your supports and try to say she doesn’t do much again

[fallow socket]

moira has alot of builds and flexibility 😭and if you dont want to learn all of them you can always just play 100 ap nitrogen cyber venom orbs its OP in every situation

[leaden patio]

Is dva the worst tank for stadium? I hear this a lot and I Feel like it depends on the situation of the enemy team picks. Like if there is mei and zarya then your just going to get hard countered.

[neon galleon]

Eh with Zarya and Mei plot armor can let you turn the tables as plot armor lets countermeasures and face tanking work on beam damage

[leaden patio]

This is true but also im not sure if blizzard fixed the glitch where that ability was bugged. Apparently it gave a less dmg reduction making it useless

[bright briar]

idk where ur hearing that. ive found dva to be consistently amazing

her mobility gives her a major advantage over every other tank

• she has a bunch of build variety, and they commonly overlap. so u can easily swap builds mid-game.

[inland quiver]

imo orbs <<< attack speed into dva as someone who onetricked moira into legend lol

[leaden patio]

it was a bug last season. But never saw anything in patch notes

[proven knot]

prob. she makes a lot of money even with bugged powers

[proven knot]

it was fixed

[sudden bridge]

She can’t do much tf you on

[fallow socket]

yea just dva is the issue but grasp is so op

[neon galleon]

Tell me you haven’t seen Dva delete squishies without telling me you haven’t seen Dva delete squishies-

[sudden bridge]

And how often do you run into a dva 1/10 1/20 games

[unborn briar]

What's mercy's damage boost percent? Most sites say 30% but I know at one point it was nerfed to 25. Was that positively reverted? I'd like to know how much damage boost my target gets when I have the item that increases it by 5%

To calculate breakpoints

Also how does damage boost stack ontop of damage items? I'd assume it applies after but wouldn't be surprised if it was first either.

[neon galleon]

You don’t run into Dva much anyway due to the reputation she had gotten before people figured out what to do with her but saying she can’t do much is bull crap

[oak crest]

Oh my god, more scam by a completely made up source

[proven knot]

Any idea how it got hacked? I’m curious. Might help stop it

[proven knot]

you did something

what was it?

[gaunt sorrel]

zen lucio and kiriko are the best supports in stadium right now
prove me wrong

[oak crest]

Wow, a completely made up source

[nova edge]

moira beats them all

[gaunt sorrel]

moira provides little to nothing for her team besides dmg and heals

zen lucio and kiri are better in so many ways

[nova edge]

what they do provide then

[gaunt sorrel]

suzu beat kitsune discord boop amp trans

and higher dmg output

but mostly heals

[nova edge]

ehhh no way
moira has the biggest dmg output in healers

Zen has too low heals, never saw zen being the better healer than the 2nd one, they always do the dmg output
Lucio in good hands is good but needed skill which has only 5% of lucios i play with
kiri is great, yeah
but still moiras are the annoying ones with ability to being tanky or dmg/healing output bigger than even mercy's

I literally played with moira that did bigger dmg output than reaper and the same amount of heal (getting mvps like 80% of the time)

[gaunt sorrel]

zen deals an insane amount of dmg if u increase weapon power and use discord

i’ve wiped out so many tanks that way in under 10 sec

[gaunt sorrel]

zen can deal insane amounts of healing with the right power paired with attack speed u can get ult super quickly

[fallow socket]

this is just not true 😭

moira can do mass debuffs, more widespread with nitrogen and cybervenom than any other hero

she has a cleanse with voidhoppers

she can do a LOT of dmg with atk spd, not just some dmg

she can literally even become a 2nd tankl

[gaunt sorrel]

zen can do the same thing when paired with the discord power that deals ability dmg

even quicker aswell

[fallow socket]

on one target

[gaunt sorrel]

u can spam discord on their team

[fallow socket]

moira's covers the entire point lmao

[nova edge]

zen has no mobility tho here

[gaunt sorrel]

pretty sure he has a power that gives him some decent mobility while also defending himself from dive heroes

[nova edge]

idk for zen in games i was in it's either

• a lot of dmg / low heal
• decent dmg / decent heal

[gaunt sorrel]

im all stars 5 on support and i deal insane amounts of dmg while also healing my team

u just gotta use the right build

[nova edge]

cgs

[fallow socket]

all star 😭

[gaunt sorrel]

it’s literally the second highest rank

[fallow socket]

u should be at least legend to claim these things, ranks in stadium are already so meaningless

[nova edge]

idk why bring ranks here, i'm elite (bc I don't play a lot, just for fun) and it doesn't mean anything

tbhhh

[fallow socket]

it rlly doesnt

all star lobbies can get rookie ranks

[nova edge]

Yeah... and I hate this

i tried to carry rookies once
with 900 dmg soldier 💀💀💀

I mean they were 900dmg soldier

[gaunt sorrel]

i mean im only still in all stars cuz of ximmers and leavers🤷🏽‍♂️

[nova edge]

at 3rd round

[fallow socket]

either way the moira erasure is just crazy when she's the most adaptable stadium support she has something for every situation

[gaunt sorrel]

literally can’t do anything about it

[fallow socket]

if u deserved legend u'd get it twin cant be blaming these things lmao

[nova edge]

honestly... you can

[gaunt sorrel]

but i’ll admit moira is pretty decent in lower ranks but gets dominated in contenders+

[fallow socket]

??

[nova edge]

??????

help-?

[gaunt sorrel]

??

[fallow socket]

bro has seen multiball crossorbal with 100 ap and think thats the only build

first of all stop even bringing up rank bcs like i said all star lobbies literally have every rank in them, queues are wide and ranks are meaningless

[nova edge]

(I don't play in english so idk these names)
But I play lifesteal, coalescence (ult) and tanky

with fade

[gaunt sorrel]

moiras good but not good enough to provide enough things for her team like discord suzu or beat

she just doesn’t do enough

really wish they gave her more unique powers

[fallow socket]

literally has a power to make her fade affect teammates

[fallow socket]

literally has the most unique powers

[gaunt sorrel]

yeah for like half a second which hardly does anything

[fallow socket]

half of zen's and kiri's and lucios are trash

[fallow socket]

it cleanses debuffs

??

[nova edge]

works like suzu

[fallow socket]

wtfg

u cant be real

[gaunt sorrel]

but does it heal?

[nova edge]

and gives overhealth

[gaunt sorrel]

and suzu lasts longer

[nova edge]

gives overhealth

[fallow socket]

holy bro doesnt even know moira's kit and is so quick to shaft her

talking bout unique powers when moira easily has the most different builds than any other hero and every power is good

[gaunt sorrel]

healings better imo

over health lasts for like 2s if it isnt more than 75

[nova edge]

firstly, 2s is enough to heal them back
second, sometimes you can give even 150 overhealth at once

[fallow socket]

she can increase the overhealth value by increasing her own hp and either way 90% of the value is in the cleanse itself

you can clean ana stuff jq stuff ashe burns

[gaunt sorrel]

cass or ashe can shred that over health pretty quickly so 2s isnt really enough time🤷🏽‍♂️

[fallow socket]

brutha

[gaunt sorrel]

and so can rein or dva

[fallow socket]

moira is not the trash u r tryna make her out to be

[nova edge]

You can say the same about suzu

[gaunt sorrel]

i’ve literally won most games against her while on lucio or zen

[nova edge]

how big heal is it

[gaunt sorrel]

it all depends on ability power tbf

[fallow socket]

yeah bcs moira is a popular hero for nooblets and most just play orbs ap ?

thats when moira is just “some dmg and healing”

U cant use ur own experience to call her trash lol

plus you tried to use all star rank as a point so that just invalidates ur experience anyway sorry

💀

[gaunt sorrel]

literally nobody uses her in upper ranks, after u get to pro she hardly ever appears and when they do they get destroyed by other supports

[fallow socket]

just loud and wrong and again stop mentioning rank

“after u get to pro” like all star lobbies dont have pro ranks elite ranks contenders

[gaunt sorrel]

she’s only good if u focus heal or u focus dmg

there’s no in between

[fallow socket]

ur stubborn

i give up

“upper ranks” like that even exists 😭

[nova edge]

not true
you literally can have the build where after some heal you deal A LOT of dmg like tanks going dead after 4secs

[gaunt sorrel]

all stars legend???

[fallow socket]

yea and ur not legend and all star lobbies are still extremely wide and have every other rank in them

and u JUST tried to call pro and above "upper ranks"

pls

pro is like silver

[gaunt sorrel]

literally says who

rookie and the rank after it exist for a reason

[fallow socket]

says the queues?

u can increase ur rank but ur lobbies are hardly changing

still being put in matches w every lower rank

[gaunt sorrel]

how does that prove anything

[fallow socket]

???

if you increase your rank but you are still playing with lower ranks

then rank doesnt mean anything

its self explanatory

if ur lobbies were changing and actually getting harder then itd make sense but theyre literally not

[gaunt sorrel]

so in this logic ranks just exist for no reason

[gaunt sorrel]

except they are

[fallow socket]

they exist for a reason duh but with how queues are rn theyre still meaningless

still gonna take atleast another season for matchmaking to work

[fallow socket]

not enough to the point where all star means anything

[gaunt sorrel]

so legend is the only rank that matters?

[fallow socket]

yeah unfortunately

does that make u feel bad?

[gaunt sorrel]

u can’t be fr

[fallow socket]

u cant be fr when u say moira is not good

and base it off ur experiences in lobbies with rookie rank players

who only play cross orbal multiball destructions divide with 100 ap extendrils smart orbs champions kit iridescent iris nano cola

[gaunt sorrel]

okay bro

good luck with being hardstuck contenders and proshipping

[fallow socket]

u want me to be contenders so bad

cry ab it

[gaunt sorrel]

u literally said u were????????

[fallow socket]

when

show me

❤️

[gaunt sorrel]

mb then thought of the other guy

have a good day

i’m done w u

[leaden patio]

What about mercy tho?

[gaunt sorrel]

mercy is pretty decent ngl

so hard to kill

[leaden patio]

I tried playing mercy in stadium and I like her the best but I don’t play support a lot so I can’t really say she’s the best in stadium or any hero support for that matter

[neon galleon]

Top 3 are Juno Moira Mercy, with Juno and Moira being the only 2 capable of solo carrying. Mercy would be too but she is just a bit too team dependent to get that

[compact flare]

bruh, playing with rein against mei and dva sucks so much

like, dva makes my E meaningless

and Mei slows me down

how the fuck will I do something?

There was also a Ana in the other team to fuck my charge

what I'm supposed to do? I lose the match before it even started because there is no pick phase

[neon galleon]

Either get the item that gives you half your charge cooldown back if something else cancels it or get the power that brings your barrier up when you charge, bait the Dva’s dm out so that she doesn’t have it when you do Firestrike, and as for Mei….her beam can’t get through your barrier, and part of the barrier’s point IS to let you approach safely

That comp is gonna be a hammer build heaven since the Dva won’t have much that can keep you away and the Ana is just a Cushioned Padding away from being made damn near useless against you

At that point all that is the main problem is Mei’s slow, and well Hammer Rein can easily build up enough movement speed to overcome Mei’s slowdown

[leaden patio]

https://tenor.com/view/dva-hana-song-overwatch-ow2-korean-gif-5926037965192696899

heh heh lol (I'm a dva main)

[fallow socket]

kiri donut delivery is taking over lobbies

juno blinkboosts all over again but not as toxic

the cash is ridiculous tho and nothing dies

[bright briar]

when is the next season again?

pretty sure they said that hero bans or whatever it is, is coming to stadium next season

praying that gets cancelled i dont even touch main OW anymore bc of bans

[neon galleon]

Pretty sure it’s at the end of August

[neon galleon]

I don’t remember them saying anything about hero bans, I know that a non ranked version of Stadium and crossplay for it is coming next season

[clever ginkgo]

who is s - tier in stadium rn

[bright briar]

they mentioned a "hero draft" thing

[proven knot]

praying too

stadium was supposed to be my break from bans

[bright briar]

this item for zen seems to not actually work

regardless of distance, the heal speed is constant

[neon galleon]

No it works, if I had to guess there is a certain range you need to be in for the increased healing to kick in, and the closer you are to them the stronger it gets

Yeah I just tested it, any distance past 20 meters and it doesn’t trigger at all

[bright briar]

i went from being right next to them, to being across the map

it did not do anything

tested both in an "actual" stadium match (custom game) and practice range

[neon galleon]

I mean idk about you but this video I just recorded on my PS5 shows it working

I mean the item ain’t really great anyway, at 100% AP along with this item it only really bumps your heal up from like 80 something to 90 something

[bright briar]

that is extremely weird

it just straight up does nothing for me lmao

[neon galleon]

Still, item isn’t really great + I find Zen just gets infinitely more healing if you make his damage heal whoever the orb is on, especially since it counts for your self orb as well

[compact flare]

How do you deal with rein? In my elo rein just go swing build and just walk straight. I'm playing as a tank (Zarya), but I have the impression that is the dps role to deal push him back through dmg, right?
I'm also playing the support build Zarya, shielding my teammates

[leaden patio]

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[upper narwhal]

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[nova edge]

aree there any rumoured new stadium characters

[graceful musk]

What do I as jq against kiriko. The iverheakth on cleanse item is barely if at all effective

[rough patio]

Did you try building into ability damage? Kiriko hasent been that much of an issue since I started using that kind of build

Like yes she can still negate your ult but if you time it till after then you should be fine

[graceful musk]

I did AP and max health

it felt like the always had Suzu: they were running twozu and cooldown reduc

[rough patio]

Use the shout hero item that makes enemy’s bleed

She’d be forced to use Suzu for somthing other than your ult,

[graceful musk]

I did use that perk

I ran double carnage too

It might just be bad ability management in my end

[rough patio]

Tbh double carnage isn’t worth it

I do elim shout cooldown to start, bleed on shout second, then either royal bullets or blood crazed after

Depending on the situation

Or the homing knife one

[graceful musk]

Alr thanks

[rough patio]

I haven’t made a concrete decision on which one is better

[compact flare]

Pharah, Winston and Brigitte at the start of season 18. And tracer at mid season

[nova edge]

Niceee

[main jungle]

Winton

[last cairn]

tracer in stadium

O_O

[true raft]

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[vagrant torrent]

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[neon galleon]

Yep, Tracer will be in stadium in season 18’s mid season patch

[fallow socket]

is wuyang going to be in stadium? like freja

[neon galleon]

There hasn’t been any word on that yet so probably not?

[fallow socket]

dang

maybe a surprise drop

(let me cope)

[bright briar]

iirc they said that new heroes would be in their mid season? i think they said that when dropping freja

maybe it'll be different though because tracer is this midseason.

i dunno, they might want to try get more people queueing dps. dropping another support so quickly would hurt queue times

[finite dock]

Not in their plan for now

[bright briar]

to be honest though, the issue with queue times isnt because there isnt enough dps

it's just that most of the DPS in stadium dont really fufill any power fantasy. cass, genji, soldier, etc, they all largely play the same

just with more damage

[fallow socket]

never thought abt it that way

makes sense

[bright briar]

i think thats why AP ashe is so popular. that's one of the only DPS builds which really offers a new playstyle

same as AP mei. nobody touches weapon power mei even if it could be strong

[hushed jewel]

wtf is up with the starting ult charge items just straight up not working

Like I’m trying to use them in practice range and it’s doing nothing

[fallow socket]

ap reaper too

it sucks but when it works u just chain tps

[bright briar]

only works in game. match needs to have started for it to trigger. does work in custom gamestho

[bright briar]

AP reaper is a perfect example of this. it can shift reapers playstyle a lot, but it's just outclassed entirely by investing in weapon power.
it's similar for alot of dps. cass AP (throwing), genji AP (awful), freja AP(throwing) , junkrat AP (reportable)

soldier has two AP builds. helix or healpad builds. helix is stronger but it also doesn't really do anything to his base playstyle.

healpad soldier is extremely fun, but it's also far too conditional, similar to ap reaper

pretty much only mei and ashe have reliable AP builds that really do anything unique

[timber obsidian]

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[finite dock]

Need all star

[hushed jewel]

I’ve tried using it with zen in stadium with both starting ult so it should be 35% starting charge and it lasts one ult charge and then after I use ult it’s gone

It just resets back to 0

[neon galleon]

….was it ever supposed to last past the first use?

[hushed jewel]

Yeah it’s starting charge not at the beginning of the round

There’s stats that specify only being at the beginning and the starting ult charge is supposed to be a permanent ult boost

It used to be that way at least for when I was playing DVA

[dense shadow]

What’s meta rn?

Like two characters for each role

[fallow socket]

every character is good except for junkrat

Lowkey wanna say dva best tank don’t come for me

genji is the only dps I’ve ever seen do anything impactful unless ur a demon at clicking heads on cass

[main jungle]

Finally hit all star!!!

[bright briar]

im pretty sure it only does that on dva. it honestly might be a bug

it defo should just be a permanent thing on every hero tho. dva with that item is really fun

[hushed jewel]

It does it on every hero

[bright briar]

iirc it only provides the ult charge again on dva.

everyone else i tried it goes to 0

[hushed jewel]

They gotta fix that

[proven knot]

kinda doubt they will. its been a bug forever now

and a lot of people still don’t know about it

[main jungle]

Yeah, if they wanted the ult to be faster, there's multiple effects that reduce ult cost, id imagine they'd use that instead of starting ult charge

[neon galleon]

Yeah and some characters can build ult so quickly that there isn’t much point in getting starting ult charge

[bright briar]

probably stems from the fact dva is changing heroes when she mechs/demechs

i wonder if echo has a similar issue

[bright briar]

why does winston take up the entire left side of the screen

its worse than dva you literally lose half the screen when you move or jump

actually it looks like all the non-stadium tanks are like this

so i guess they must do some per-hero work on the camera booms

[proven knot]

nah junkrat is actually so useless in this game mode

it is basically a guaranteed loss if you have one on your team which is actually insane

[compact flare]

Really? I have found some really good junkrat in my games

I think I got hit killed once too

And I had over 350 hp

[crimson coral]

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[neon galleon]

He can be good, I think part of the problem is that this mode doesn’t reward what a regular Junkrat does as much as like quick play does

Blind firing into a choke is a lot more likely to get your shit sent back at you or just give more dangerous characters more money than you via healing and as for his close up 1 shot combos, unlike Reaper Junkrat’s only way to safely get in for it is to use up 1 mine to fly in, leaving him unlikely to survive the attempt whether or not it actually succeeds

It also doesn’t help that his grenades are one of the slowest projectiles in Stadium and only gets temporarily boosts to help it land

It doesn’t help that by default most of his kit can trigger divine intervention, severely weakening his kill power

[compact flare]

I can see it. I guess it depends on tank too.

[neon galleon]

Junkrat is just extremely dependent on team comp in general, with how many fliers are running around and the characters that can just kill him before he ever gets close enough

[pulsar warren]

The tank selection in stadium is so bad bro

Where’s doomfist

[supple kayak]

Winstoning

[neon galleon]

It is currently unknown when he will be added but he probably won’t have a fun time due to how many cassidies are running around

[pulsar warren]

He’ll probably have a good survival power against cc or something

Idk

Even winston would be nice

[neon galleon]

Winston is coming this upcoming season

[pulsar warren]

Rly?

[fallow socket]

get ready for sniper winston because its definitely coming

no way they dont make powers and a build for it

[neon galleon]

Yep

[pulsar warren]

2000 health bubble soon 🔜

[fallow socket]

that follows winston around and deals damage inside of it..

[pulsar warren]

Imagine a power where his leap goes like 2x farther

[past plume]

hello

[twin shuttle]

why are the support queues so long? 😔

[sudden bridge]

Favorite role que tank for instant queue

[dense shadow]

I cant decide who to play

Stadium Dosent really have a meta

For me to follow

[sudden bridge]

Sure it does

Take rein for example he basically has two builds

One is picked more often

[dense shadow]

I mean like everyone is technically good

[sudden bridge]

Same for pretty much every hero

Everyone is technically good cept junk

Just depends on comp

But like safe picks would be like soldier is basically always good

Mercy with someone worth pocketing is always good

As for tanks it's sorta luck of the draw but orisa zarya rein queen tend to be played more

But if dva sigma can be fine

Like you can basically always go fire Ashe and get value

Safest like basically always good always value with average gameplay sense is probably rein soldier Ashe mercy Moira/Kiri

But like if you're a stellar mei or Lucio or a pub stomp zen go for it

[dense shadow]

Aight

[nocturne sandal]

Has anyone else noticed how Superflexor is overpowered with Juno?

The damage from the Mediblaster counts as multiple hits per round so it instantly stacks to 25% Ability Power plus it adds extra weapon power & health

[fallow socket]

I wouldnt say overpowered just an easy stat boost for juno and some other heroes to activate (its great on moira and d.va for example). Superflexor itself isnt rlly THAT good its not a game changer, its just a lot of stats for only 10k.

[fallow socket]

im convinced dva is the strongest character in stadium

im one divison away from legend with all wins in a row starting from rookie

only playing d.va

[proven knot]

What build are you using?

I kind of don't like mine rn. Need inspiration to make a new one

legendary loadout getting gutted kinda got me at a loss rn

[fallow socket]

lava into everything that isnt zar or d,va

legendary loadout into zar and d,va

90% of the time on lava tho i pick legendary loadout second power anyways

lava's just rlly effective on everyone that isnt d.va cus u can put double debuffs

[proven knot]

ah

so anti + slow

[fallow socket]

yea

[proven knot]

might give lava a shot

been ignoring it

[fallow socket]

got mopped by a lava d.va so i had to copy it lol

[fallow socket]

just made it to legend without a single loss

after struggling on support queue for weeks and never reaching it lmfao

[pulsar warren]

What heros r coming into stadium next season

[main jungle]

Brig, Phara, and Winton at the start and then tracer at mid-season

[fallow socket]

we are in hell

[golden dawn]

how u know?

[pulsar warren]

The heck happened

[pulsar warren]

Woah

How do u know

[glass yew]

lifeweaver in stadium when

[main jungle]

They released a roadmap last season, but we don't know anything abt the season after that afaik

[pulsar warren]

Wait I just saw the roadmap

Draft feature?

Is that like hero bans

[main jungle]

Probably not, it's most likely just going to let you pick characters based around the enemy comp or something by having character picks go back and forth between teams

That way you won't go into a Zarya, Mei, Cas, Moira, Mercy enemy team as D.Va

[main jungle]

I love people being loud and wrong about Genji