stadium-discussion

[main jungle]

JQ is still so lame to go against as Lucio, because she one shots you with axe and turns off half your builds with Dez's Damage Dampenders

[forest coral]

lucio is the most obnoxious hero in the mode thank god

me when there's a singular hero in the game i cant absolutely shut down by buying one braindead power 💔

[main jungle]

What power are you talking about?

[turbid kiln]

i have a viable build lol

[forest coral]

reverb

second boop charge

[main jungle]

It's fine but doesn't do much until at least round 5

[forest coral]

the double ability powers are not only the least creative and laziest powers in the game they're almost always the most obnoxious ones too

[turbid kiln]

real

bro freja

has the most uninteresting

powers

[forest coral]

double suzu double lucio boop double coach gun god please be a t least a little creative

[turbid kiln]

its just shoot more

freja has one power that is interesting but it sucks

[forest coral]

u mean the power that singlehandedly kills off some of the best heroes in the mode

[turbid kiln]

its like a gust of wind

[forest coral]

round 1

[main jungle]

Shoot the Lucio

[turbid kiln]

hes too goated

[forest coral]

dva genji reaper all just cant engage if there's a lucio with half a braincell with that power

[turbid kiln]

ya reaper becomes a non issue if you got a lucio

[forest coral]

tiny hitbox high movespeed self heal some of the best mobility in the game

[main jungle]

That's reapers fault, not lucio

[forest coral]

unless there's a goated hitscan lucio is the easiest hero in the game

and it is not close

i'd also rank him as the best hero in the mode

[main jungle]

There's like 8 auto aim powers in the game, he gets turned off by so many characters taking one power/item

[forest coral]

no it actually very much is lucio's fault

[forest coral]

soldier's shitty visor power and cass's very situational roll autoshot

that's 2 and they both are mid against lucio

esp if he has any semblance of what cover is whatsoever

sorry genji has the right click one

that's okay against lucio but genji wont finish the kill bc he gets double booped

[main jungle]

Orb. Soldier rockets. Soldier visor. Zen auto-aim. Genji right-click (barely counts tbh). The eighteen massive hitboxes

[forest coral]

they need to give that power some drawback like it increases boop's cd to 6 seconds

[turbid kiln]

makes lucio have 1 hp

[forest coral]

the zen auto aim that only procs if lucio is below 35% hp when zen is aiming his medium speed projectile at him

(one of zen's worst powers)

[turbid kiln]

fr

most his attacking powers suck tbh

[forest coral]

also double boop is still good against the 2 tanks that get kb resist items

not only is lucio forcing tanks to spend money and an item slot just bc of one of his abilities

the boop is hurts their momentum and prevents queen from getting the swing off if you have any semblance of timing

also literally just get liquid nitrogen

[turbid kiln]

real

[forest coral]

more than nullifies dez' dampeners and is genuinely just good in general

[main jungle]

Take an item shut down a character is not at all fair, the moment you learn how to play around a Lucio in your match he can't play the game. There's so many anti-mobility items in this mode I genuinely just don't think you understand the matchup

[forest coral]

doesnt shut him down btw

[main jungle]

It does if you're doing anything other than hard-meta builds

[forest coral]

literally just makes it so lucio doesnt absolutely shut down that particular tank and make them unable to play the game in its entirely

also just pick liquid nitrogen to break the tank's legs and make them a free kill

do u know how oppressive lucio is to play against as tank

even with queen's dampeners i stopped playing that hero bc boop spam is so damn oppressive

[main jungle]

K.

[forest coral]

and when i see lucio in my lobby i switch OFF of my 8 hour 76% wr dva build

i just straight up dont build it bc i know that hero makes me useless

and go entirely for an anti-lucio build

bc that hero is so damn oppressive

i go for early cybervenom liquid nitrogen just to make lucio relatively killable

coming FROM a lucio player btw

[turbid kiln]

doomfist playerr

[forest coral]

not as much in ow2

[turbid kiln]

i did not know orisa ult reached the air

aswell

i thought it was purely who ever was on the ground

[flint patrol]

Here's my list of brig powers for stadium next season
1- Primary fire deals knockback
2- Primary fire can heal allies for weapon power
3- inspire also gives some overhealth when triggered
4- Whipshot sets enemies on fire
5- Whipshot can knock enemies into walls dealing extra damage
6- shieldbash explodes on impact with an enemy
7- shieldbash can be used in every direction
8- shieldbash stuns enemies for a short duration
9- Shield has increased health and also deflects stuff
10- Packs give overhealth aswell
11- Rally lasts longer
12- Rally gives speedboost to u and allies

[forest coral]

1 - no
2 - maybe
3 - uhh careful with that
4 - sure
5 - that's just her perk doesnt really change her playstyle much but sure
6 - reminds me of the junrkat interaction i think that's funyn sure
7 - uhh i guess? does this mean like u can bash in a direction ur not facing or you can bash up and down or what, first option sounds kinda boring second option sounds like it could cook
8 - mm idk if this mode needs cc creep
9 - umm maybe with some tuning maybe she can deflect for a few seocnds by pressing reload
10 - i guess
11 - lazy that could probably be an item
12 - that could cook

i think there'[s a lot of stuff you could potentially do with brig like there's some of the things they did in mirrorwatch where whip pulls, shield taking a certain amount of damage empowers her next bash

didnt her packs also give a damage boost or smth

[flint patrol]

6 that's what I was going for
7 yes up and down and stuff

[forest coral]

april fools had the shield bash throw

i think there's a lot of potential for stuff like

after brig uses shield bash her next few swings are empowered (for like 3-4 seconds)

then maybe it can knock people back

and maybe that knockback does wall damage

although that could fuck up her combos like if u bash someone and swing on them maybe they get knocked out of your swing range which is kinda oops

another idea is giving her whipshot smth like a grapple

if u whip shot a surface brig gets launched in that direction

[flint patrol]

After u bash and swing them you whip them anyways so who cares
More space

[forest coral]

i can see it being a feed if used improperly but maybe there's a way around that

[flint patrol]

I was thinking about that, but if you try to whip someone, and you miss, you get launched backwards and they get away

[forest coral]

i mean if a genji is on your support and you think you can kill him but ur swing gives him the space he needs to disengage that kinda feels bad

[forest coral]

actually that's an idea if brig whips a surface she gets knocked in the opposite direction

so like u could whip shot the ground to super jump up

[flint patrol]

I doesn't have to be a massive boop, maybe like a pharah rocket or something

[forest coral]

my favorite brig perk is the one where shield bash gives her move speed afterwards so i feel like there's stuff that can be done with that

that sounds more like smth that could just be an item though

[turbid kiln]

when you shield bash they explode and die instantly

any enemy in your inspire radious gets a discord orb and gets burned alive

brig can fly

brigs whipshot deals 1000% more knockback

[neon galleon]

Have they added back Dva’s heavy missiles yet?

[acoustic kiln]

imagine they make brig’s inspire radius cause burn damage = to half the amount or something

whatever it is I’m probably only gonna play brig next season

solo climb from rookie to legend

[proven knot]

lol

my tag is Throws

[proven knot]

?

They’re gone?

[neon galleon]

They removed legendary loadout yesterday, I’m guessing the changes to the perk is messing with the power or something

[proven knot]

damn

i cant play dva in stadium until its back then

[neon galleon]

I hope whatever they fix on them doesn’t affect them too much, I was having fun melting Soldiers, Ashes, and Reapers-

[proven knot]

I’m sure it’s just a bug fix

[neon galleon]

Hopefully, I might run a test or 2 with regular micro missiles, a thought went into my head involving them and that power that gives you a second charge of them

[proven knot]

I’m just gonna wait for the power to be added back

I’ve compared the damage with and without and it’s a massive drop

[neon galleon]

Which is why I’m gonna do my test: basically I’m gonna see if that power lets me treat it like a double barrel shotgun and fire both charges at once

[proven knot]

Oh yeah

It doesn’t

So for comparison abt legendary loadout vs base missiles

Legendary loadout does 166.5 damage

Base is 153

Except base dps is 93.5

While legendary loadout is 166.5

Because it fire all of its missiles in less than a second

[neon galleon]

Yeah I feel like an item to increase how fast Dva fired the base micros out would help them a lot, it won’t do much for heavy missiles since as you said they get fired out in less than a second.

[proven knot]

Weapon speed makes them fire faster btw

[neon galleon]

Huh-why weapon speed??

[proven knot]

It makes them come out faster

I couldn’t tell you why it works that way

So every 10% or so gives you can extra missile per second

[neon galleon]

And I’m guessing Heavy missiles still wouldn’t scale well with weapon speed due to how quickly they already fire out all 6?

[proven knot]

they do actually. If you get onslaught you get 8 missiles total with it. 7 come out per second. So I really couldn’t measure the speed on that one

[neon galleon]

It sounds like a Rein Blazing Blitz situation where you needed 30% attack speed to be able to get a fifth fire strike out of Blitz once you shatter: needs a fair bit of investment and might not be worth it in the end. At least for heavy missiles, Micro Missiles might be able to make more use of it due to how many it already fires out

[proven knot]

it’s really not worth building for since there are barely any good items that give speed. However, early rounds it’s def worth choosing speed over atk power if you have to make the choice between the 2

[neon galleon]

Yeah there are like 3 items that raise both attack speed and AP? Tommy gun, wrist wraps, and Vanadium Injection

[proven knot]

ya i think

not a lot of items give atk speed across the board. kind of a shame :/

its a fun stat

[neon galleon]

Yeah, in terms of the missile build though, Tommy gun would probably be the best one to grab, Vanadium being a possible option if you see yourself easily building bomb up but not being able to do much with it

[proven knot]

oh i always choose tommygun

its op

[neon galleon]

I need to grab Tommy Gun more on Dva, I remember my first game with her doing a WP build, I grabbed Tommy Gun thinking “oh DM is an ability, so in theory every time I brought DM up, Tommy Gun should activate” I ended up getting rid of it next round cause I didn’t see much of a difference-

[proven knot]

yeah it doesn’t activate with dm

it’s still really strong. boosters is such a short cd you can activate it a lot

[paper snow]

single stat characters ruin the fun of stadium aka cass and ashe

not because they are broken... although that is a big part but because they are boring to play against and as

[neon galleon]

Are you referring to AP or WP Ashe

[paper snow]

both tbh

if a character has best use from stat Aor B they are boring

Hybrid characters are more fun to play against and with

[proven knot]

wouldn’t ashe not be a single stat char then

[paper snow]

I think cass needs more AP options

and ashe needs less ap options

make bob scale with WP

and give her less fire options

not nerf the fire

[neon galleon]

Yeah Ashe has reasons to boost both AP and WP at the same time, especially with infrared sights

[paper snow]

jsut the sources

[paper snow]

yeah but the most effective way of playing them is boring

ALL AP

is not fun to play

it is not fun to play againts

[neon galleon]

So you’re saying that playing a character optimally….which is a build that can be easily countered with 1 item…..is part of what ruins Stadium?

[paper snow]

not ruins it

but makes the game stale

[neon galleon]

You said ruin on your first sentence

[proven knot]

idk man i think youre on the money with cass here

but not ashe

[paper snow]

I think cass definitely

ashe jsut needs less fire

she has variety but most ppl dont build it

I think making ashe scale less with AP and more with WP would be more fun

key word

FUN

[neon galleon]

…not every character needs to have that much variety, it’s fine to have characters that would rather focus on 1 thing-

[paper snow]

I dont mind current ashe

but every ashe basically builds the same

and that gets boring

My stance is

characters that mainly benefit from one stat are boring

and hybrids are more fun to play against and as

[proven knot]

as in characters that build both stats at the same time?

[paper snow]

or are able to

basically

variety

soldiers

and juno

genji and rein

characters that can do both

they dont have to

but they can

dva is agreat example

[proven knot]

ok dva is kind of a bad example

the others arent tho

[paper snow]

no

firerate

ap

wp

armor

she has it all

you can do so much cool stuff

[proven knot]

there’s no reason not to build missiles

which is your point ya?

[paper snow]

the point is you can

you can go melee

firerate

you have options with dva

you can hybrid your builds

ap wp at the same time

[proven knot]

i disagree. i think she needs more options to incentivize not building ap every single game

[paper snow]

or firerate melee

[paper snow]

she has one item that helps ap

rockets

you can build dmg

just go firerate

I dont run rockets on dva all the time and I do well

my point is

her kit enables that

cass doesnt

reaper doesnt

they have two builds max

and that boring

they neeed to give more powers that incentivize it

supports can go either way

and that what make them fun

dps meta is just cass ashe

ap wp

boring I sleep

I dont care about OP

or broken

they are just Boring

key word

[neon galleon]

Mercy and Lucio:

[paper snow]

BORING

[paper snow]

those are the exception

[proven knot]

zen

[paper snow]

and lucio can also go both

[proven knot]

ana

[paper snow]

ana can do both

and zen can do both

ap zen r

with other options

ana with heal sleep

[neon galleon]

No the fuck he can’t, not unless you want to troll your team

[paper snow]

you can

ap wp hybrid

more stacked to ap

this is how I know the meta is cooked

everyone runs the same stat

no one tries to be different

I run 35 max ap on any build

I dont need all that extra especially since no one runs armor anyway

I just brrr

ded

zen can run it both ways

[neon galleon]

You are genuinely trolling your team if you think going WP on Lucio works

[paper snow]

but tbh ppl just dont care

[paper snow]

it does

there is an item that heals for the dmg of your weapon

I said hybrid

to be fair

I never said only wp

[neon galleon]

And tell me, how much damage does it do at base?

[paper snow]

thats why you hybrid

30% of you dmg

[neon galleon]

Tell me, how much damage does it do at base?

[paper snow]

so build like 15% and your fine

idk bro

build lucio hybrid

I buy ap

but I also build other things that make the game not stale

idk

grow a brain

have fun

this is why we needed unranked

everyone just builds the same

you are proving my point

how many matches have you played where both teams didnt have mirror support @neon galleon

tell me how many games you win where there are flyers with a mei junk

telll me how many ppl in your lobbies run hybrid builds

you cant

MY POINT WAS

[proven knot]

you don’t think we’ve actually experimented with builds?

[paper snow]

THE SINGLE STAT META IS BORING

KEY WORD BORING

[paper snow]

no I dont think youdont

I just hate the idea of ppl not listening

I said hybrid lucio

bro thinks WP lucio

like bro

I said hybrid

my point is

most if not all character in stadium are hybrids

and the ones that arenty

are so boring to play agaisnt

and I hate it

I want cass and ashe to have more with the off meta builds

I want mercy to have funny ap builds

I want this game to be fresh

FUN

KEY WORD

FUN

DIFFERENT

you cant sit here and tell me running into the same 4 meta builds isnt boring

you cant sit here and tell me WP cass is fun to play into or fire ashe is fun to play against

its boring

and repetitive

and that will kill this mode

not balance

repetitive bull crap

the worst thing a game can do

is be boring and samey

no one likes a cod clone

because that game is already boring

most if not all supports and tanks have varied builds... I would like it if certain characters who didnt did... If you agree than say so

if you dont

then I dont care tbh

cass is boring reaper is eh and ap ashe is boring...

everyone else is ok

[proven knot]

i agree with your point

but not all of your examples

[paper snow]

I get the dva thing

[neon galleon]

I still think not every character needs that much variety, some characters are fine being simple, and I’m blocking him purely because I don’t want my screen bombarded with 50 fucking messages that could have been combined into 1

[paper snow]

but I think most if not every character could have more Expression

[tepid folio]

What’s some of the best builds for Dva in stadium

[paper snow]

fair point tbh

[proven knot]

they’re disabled rn

[tepid folio]

My friend said Dva feels bad rn

And all the builds are bad but I didn’t feel like it was true

[proven knot]

ok thats cap

she has good builds

[paper snow]

bro couldve just ignored instead of block tbh

[proven knot]

but with legendary loadout being disabled you cant use her best builds rn

[neon galleon]

Legendary loadout is Dva’s best build but it’s been disabled right now due to I’m guessing the changes to the equivalent perk fucking with the power

[tepid folio]

Why did they disable her stuff

[proven knot]

because it was bugged

[tepid folio]

They should’ve just fixed it instead of disabling it

[neon galleon]

They disabled it the same day of the patch, they probably don’t want a bugged power running around and messing up matches

[tepid folio]

What’s the next best option

[proven knot]

I just think every character should be able to do a wp build and an ap build. And they don’t have to be equal in power. Just have it not be completely troll

[bright briar]

ap junkrat:

ap cass:

ap mercy:

[proven knot]

yes

[bright briar]

honestly even moira. AP moira its not bad

but WP moira is just so much better

[proven knot]

ok ap moira is good

[tepid folio]

I get cooked so bad with ap cass

It seems fun on paper

But it never works

[neon galleon]

AP Moira is only throwing if the enemy team has a Dva

[bright briar]

I tried AP genji. apparently dragonblade scales with WP

why the hell does blade scale with wp

[tepid folio]

Ap Genji is his worst

[tepid folio]

Bc it’s melee

Idk

Ig dash is too

[bright briar]

its an ability though it feels weird

[tepid folio]

It fits better for his builds

[neon galleon]

It scales with WP, AP, and Melee damage, which makes Genji the only true hybrid builder

[tepid folio]

Honestly

[paper snow]

they would make powers related to ap

[proven knot]

idk. All of the builds I made that I actually thought were good all used it

[bright briar]

OH

[paper snow]

thats how you would fix it tbh

[tepid folio]

But for Genji you only wanna build into wp

[bright briar]

Blade scales for WP and AP??

[tepid folio]

Bc Ap is worthless

[tepid folio]

Yeah

They just don’t say it

[bright briar]

oooo.
are any of them better? or like

20% AP 20% WP = stronger than
40% AP
40% WP

[tepid folio]

I don’t remember what scales higher but most likely weapon power

There’s never a reason to build full into Ap tho

Since dash build

Is horrendous

[bright briar]

interesting ok. 25% melee item is defo worth it then for a blade build

bc thats just a flat 25% buff on blade surely

[neon galleon]

No they scale the same amount

[bright briar]

honestly more things should be like that. scale equally with AP and WP.

[tepid folio]

Unfortunately it doesn’t make a difference with Genji

Since you’d build into wp

It’s cool he does both tho

[bright briar]

like....
what if moiras right click self healing scaled with AP

[tepid folio]

Like I thought I was messing up with Genji’s Ap build until I realized it was just bad

[paper snow]

not unless you get laceration

laceration slash

never stop slashing

[paper snow]

here orbs do

[tepid folio]

It’s cool but if the enemy doesn’t die with that it’s over

[paper snow]

her ult does too

[tepid folio]

Like dash build is fully reliant on you just killing time with one dash

[neon galleon]

Here is a funny thing about that: everything item that increases both AP and WP is significantly more effective on Dragon blade than anything else. Phantasmic Flux? Secretly a 20% damage boost and 30% lifesteal boost on Dragon Blade. Superflexor? Secretly a 35% damage boost on blade since blade actually fucking triggers it to stack

[tepid folio]

Her orbs do so much damage

[neon galleon]

Even if it’s the single slash from the deflect power

[paper snow]

yeah

[paper snow]

armor also negates her orb dmg

[tepid folio]

I usually rock phantasmic for Genji I wonder why these things aren’t just stated

[paper snow]

since its a beam

so buying armor makes them hurt less

[tepid folio]

If it wasn’t intentional it would’ve been patched

[neon galleon]

Funny thing is, it’s specifically AP that isn’t stated to affect Dragonblade even though it does

[tepid folio]

I didn’t know that actually

Yeah I noticed

I was so confused on that when I first started

And then I saw on a YouTube video blade scaled with both and I was like “what”

[neon galleon]

Yeah a random Genji I played with and told that AP doesn’t work on Dragonblade had to set me straight-

Wait a minute I just realized something I need to check now-

Ok either the bots can’t get slowed down or Dragonblade can’t trigger liquid nitrogen

[proven knot]

the bots can get slowed

[paper snow]

its unique to her orbs

[tepid folio]

Probably the latter

[paper snow]

I mean amor make everything hurt a little less

[paper snow]

it doesnt

make sure to hit alt when in the armory

you can see what is affected

[proven knot]

armory isnt always accurate

[paper snow]

true

[neon galleon]

Anyway I checked how much attack speed helps out with micro missiles, 70% attack speed gets the missiles to be at exactly 153 dps, which definitely isn’t worth it, meanwhile 70% AP and 20% attack speed gets the dps to top at about 214.20

[proven knot]

did you use the stadium training room code?

[paper snow]

also junkrats mines and trap along with tire scale with ap

so yeah junk is a hybrid character

[neon galleon]

Yep, the items I grabbed were onslaught, cybervenom, champion’s kit, Tommy gun, and Vanadium Injection so technically it’s at 80% AP, though it actually being at 70% only drops it to 202.30

[bright briar]

its a terrible build

trap build is entirely dependant on enemy movement. and junkrat has nothing to enhance mines

[proven knot]

ok be careful with that. the dps calculator isn’t 100% accurate.

[bright briar]

theres like 1 item which does anything to mine and u have to throw mine into the air

[proven knot]

however its the games fault

not the tools

[neon galleon]

Swapping out onslaught with a different 15% boost….actually keeps the dps the same-

[proven knot]

yes

onslaught doesnt increase dps

its just more missiles

with a longer duration

[neon galleon]

Which adds like 57 more damage to the burst for micros-

[proven knot]

yup

[paper snow]

yeah but mines

are you slow

[paper snow]

BRother mines do so much dmg and

[bright briar]

do they though.

at 100% AP. your mine is dealing 240 dmg assuming no falloff

which, there probably will be falloff

[paper snow]

nope

[bright briar]

u could have a mei build where a single icicle does that

or freja

who has better mines built into her gun lol

[proven knot]

here let me show you the flaw with the calculator. compare 20% wp on dva to 20% speed. You’ll get different answers.

[bright briar]

and to reach this point enemies will already have scaled health a lot

more importantly doe. mines dont have any good items/powers.

[paper snow]

you combo them

idk

[bright briar]

theres like two? radius increase if ur mine is 5m above ground.

and self KB

[paper snow]

play the character correctly

idk

skill issue tbh

[paper snow]

this is the probelm with ppl

they think they can

which is ineffective

one shot this and that yet you die to one shots as well

its an rng fest of goobers

each character has kits and they mix well which allows for deeeper lvl of play

yet everyone just puts mud on a stick and acts like they found the meta

like bro its brain ded thinking rounding out your builds is key

not just dmg

[forest coral]

is this actually true

[bright briar]

moira 3 grasp build is actually so good

[paper snow]

but hybridizing and utilizing synergies

[bright briar]

you deal SO much damage and healing

[paper snow]

its so wild to me how ppl are just clueless

[paper snow]

this is fact

[forest coral]

i feel like it's hard to compete with cyber venom liquid nitrogen orb spam

[paper snow]

I think firerate wp moira go brrr

[bright briar]

orb build isnt bad for sure if ur team is good

but WP moira is defo a carry build

[paper snow]

if your team is good

IF

that is a big ass IF

[bright briar]

yah exactly

[forest coral]

i mean wp moira is prob one of the only things that can reliably check genji if i had to guess

[bright briar]

rather than relying on rng matchmaking

wp moira is reliable bc its entirely ur own skill rly

[bright briar]

not just genji. wp moira denies alot of heroes

dva especially

[forest coral]

would dva not be able to just burst moira down

[proven knot]

she would

[paper snow]

dragon blade scales with weapon dash is the only thing that scales with ap... actually fun fact genji can scale his healing with ap too make the ap super busted

since slash and blah blah blah

[bright briar]

she can. wp moira is mostly about positioning

[forest coral]

if you can force fade without boosters i feel like she just gets mauled by legendary loadout

[bright briar]

you dont walk into their team

[paper snow]

nah genji can diff moira

idk only in low elo is moria good against genji

but also they kinda just keep buffing her

for no reason

[forest coral]

moira only counters genji in low elo she is still never a fun matchup for him

regardless of elo

[paper snow]

I mean in stadium

not bad at all

I prefer to fight moira in stadium

the constant buffs she is getting is so annoying tho

[forest coral]

even in stadium i feel like moira is the only supp genji can actually struggle to deal with

[paper snow]

she hasnt had a nerf in like 12 patches

[paper snow]

well that is because money

is dps gained more money it wouldnt matter

nerf money gain for supports and the game changes

[bright briar]

no for sure. a good genji can deny most builds

[forest coral]

liquid nitrogen moira can absolutely out maneuver and out sustain genji

[paper snow]

definitely

and because money

she can get it fast

not much to say there

I mean dash deflect counters it tbh

[forest coral]

it's insane to me that moira and mercy have dodged cash generation nerfs for so damn long

[paper snow]

yeah

nerf their cash

[bright briar]

alot of supps have insane cash gen

lucio aswell

[paper snow]

like kiri is a balanced state now

[forest coral]

i think

lucio mercy moira genji need cash gen nerfs

[paper snow]

can we nerf the other two problems

[forest coral]

maybe dva

[bright briar]

tbh i dont even think they should nerf their cash gen

just buff everyone elses

its more fun ending r1 with like 14k

[paper snow]

fair

genji is the only dps that can farm it fast

oh and ashe

but thats because she dumb

[forest coral]

dva is tricky tho bc she's absolutely the most polarizing hero in the mode

i feel like every dva i see is either really ass or really good

[paper snow]

nah

dva is fine

shes op

she bad

that means she in a good plave

if a character is a real problem everyone agrees

if a character is bad everyone argues

[bright briar]

dva was considered bad before everyoen started rolling the missile build

[forest coral]

i still feel like she's one of the onyl heroes in the mode that can actually make you fee llike wow there is literally nothing i can do

[paper snow]

if a character is balanced everyone doesnt know for sure

[bright briar]

thats when zarya was "meta"

dva missile build tho kinda just deletes zar

[paper snow]

yeah DM

I want an item to counter DM

[forest coral]

i think specifically the dm missile power

[paper snow]

make it so I do dmg just a reduced amount

[forest coral]

can be super duper oppressive against heroes like reaper cass etc

especially in late game

makes you feel like u gen cant play the game

[paper snow]

yeah

because like ana cant exist with dva

and the dm eats heals

[forest coral]

like against dm most of the time it's like okay if i just play around cover i can wait out dm

[paper snow]

so like its poopoo

[forest coral]

but with that power i cant physically react to the dm of my first shot and 1 reaper shot that late in the game will trigger the power

so u just get blown up without being able to react

[paper snow]

counter point

lets all melee build dva ah team comp

just gran gran running it down with her punch

lmao

[forest coral]

they dont know i run melee dva

[paper snow]

lmao

everyone quick melee

I think there are counters to everything at this point and stadium makes counter the counters way easier

getting one shot buy divine or conduit... beamed buy armor and reductionfield... burned to death martian mender.... idk cant win a 1v1 buy lifesteal boom

[forest coral]

yeah like i think double boop lucio shits on dva really hard

but if dva specs into liquid nitrogen cybervenom lucio's legs just get broken

and he gets punished a lot more if he tries to peel dva

[paper snow]

idk the biggest pain point of stadium for me isnt OP characters its just running into the same builds all the time

personally I just want cass to have dead eye build that makes him launch in the air

or like give him a power that makes flash bang the old predator missle

or fun idea make it so he gets a new power that gives him an AP punch

like he punches ppl and they get knocked up

and like take more dmg

idk something fun

[forest coral]

i need to remember to run cushioned padding against ap ashe

[paper snow]

get martian mender and you just out heal it also

martian mender my favorite item now

passive healing that is constant

[forest coral]

i just never know what to swap out for it

like is it really more worthwhile than phantasmic flux

should i get it instead of gloomgauntlet on dva or should i get it before my burst damage items on genji

[paper snow]

nothing is more worth it than flux

that item is goated

not even op either

just a good item

more survival items need that

like goated stats

[bright briar]

they could've given junkrat so many cool powers to change up the game 😭

like, trap that moves, mine that applies burn, idk

[paper snow]

Tru

[bright briar]

i wanted a chomper trap like mario

[paper snow]

Less launcher ones and more goober mine ones

[bright briar]

the trap tries to bite people

[paper snow]

Lol

Just make it a flying trap

[bright briar]

omg yes

[paper snow]

Chases ppl but can be destroyed

[bright briar]

roadhog hook but its junkrat throwing a trap chain

its just weird how like half of junkrats items/powers are about throwing himself into the skybox

[paper snow]

Yeah it goes around looking for ppl but can be shot for counter play

[bright briar]

when half of the stadium roster are hitscans??

[bright briar]

omg. replace his ult with like

3 baby riptires that just run off and try chase people

also its funny u mention cass. idk what the point of playing him in stadium evne is

u can go into workshop and set his damage to 200% and get the same experience

[paper snow]

yeah I was thinkin that would be nice

I think more stadium powers should revolve around the ults

like every character should have one power

I think the cass punch power would be cool

or an item that makes cass fly after using his ult

like he uses high noon and a petal platform spawns under him

something like that would be awesome

[turbid kiln]

bro what

a flying cass using deadeye

would be terrifying

[paper snow]

nah

give him a lasso

it makes sense

a lasso for pulling ppl in

or to keep them rooted

[turbid kiln]

oh yeah

that would be cool actually

if they add venture to stadium they should give her the ability to kick rocks at people

like sigma

[hushed jewel]

Why the fuck is dva even in stadium

Every build of hers gets fucking bombed into oblivion

The nano build, bomb build, punch build, and now the DM barrage build

What’s next they’re going to change the lava to only being there for half a second like a fucking speed trail

[turbid kiln]

my rein got mad at me for not healing enough

when all his charges where directly into the fucking backline of the other team T_T

at somepoint he pinned a kiri clone

[acoustic kiln]

freja AP isnt too bad i guess

but you gotta really focus on getting that AP as high as possible

[turbid kiln]

ya

freja so boring in stadium

all her powers are just shoot more bolts

or shoot a gust of wind

[forest coral]

oh my god i've solved it ana is funny as hell in this mode

[neon galleon]

What did you solve?

[forest coral]

move speed ana incident

[neon galleon]

Pretty sure they’re just fixing a bug on it, if I were to guess, the changes to the perk is fucking with the power equivalent

[hushed jewel]

They changed it from 350% to 325% dmg for missiles and from 100 mit dmg to 150 mit dmg for the other power

[bright briar]

why did they nerf anas dreamy perk

did anyone actually pick that before the bug

[hushed jewel]

They keep nerfing everyone except the ones who need it

Like wtf do you mean dvas getting high dmg from that build meanwhile I use it and while the dmg is high it’s comparable to literally every other fucking player and is sometimes worse because it requires people shooting ur dm

[cursive nymph]

@proven knot has a very very good dva build

[hushed jewel]

What is it?

The one that got me nearly to all star last season is shit now

[neon galleon]

That….really isn’t a whole lot considering how many missiles countermeasures can let you fire out? Heck remember Micro Missiles scale faster than Heavy Missiles the main advantage is that Heavy Missiles gets its full damage out significantly quicker than Micro Missiles

[hushed jewel]

I’m just pissed at any dva nerf because they just keep coming

[cursive nymph]

I can't remember the exacts but you basically just take what makes DVa strong

[hushed jewel]

More than any other tank

[cursive nymph]

And buff it to oblivion

Uhh

[hushed jewel]

So basically burst diving

[cursive nymph]

Legendary payload round 1

Get two tap Tommy and then mark of kitsune asap

R3 take face tanking

Which just got a huge buff btw

66% more heals than before the patch

It's called the Throws Approach which is

Funny

[hushed jewel]

THEY HAVENT EVEN ADDED THE POWER BACK

WTF

Why the fuck did they include it in the announcement and then not even add it back to the fucking game

[proven knot]

the legendary loadout nerf was barely anything

[hushed jewel]

I don’t give a fuck. I just hate it when they know her. I’m tired of them Nerf her into the ground.

Every single viable build that she’s had, they’ve done something to

[neon galleon]

Uh, the only thing it mentions on the hot fix for me in terms of Dva is the countermeasure nerf

[proven knot]

its in a twitter post

[neon galleon]

Ah, also for some reason Yappicus sent me an 11 message insult dm….because I apparently commented something on his YouTube???

[hushed jewel]

Just tried out the 150 dmg one and omg it’s so much worse

Barely any missiles are sent out

And without the legendary load out it’s a useless fucking power

You legit have to get a team that does everything right for dva to be viable against anyone but dva

[proven knot]

im just waiting for legendary loadout to come back before i q dva again

[hushed jewel]

And doki slam is so bad I can’t

You have to be high enough but then you can’t see and sometimes it never actually activates

Tbh most of her powers are ass

[proven knot]

i think the real issue is that ap gets so much more than wp for her powers/items

wp only gets 1 power so it just ends up being weaker

a lot of her powers aren’t bad in a vacuum they just don’t get the right support to make them actually shine

[turbid kiln]

what one is thaty

oh that ones booty

wasting a whole sleep dart lol

[proven knot]

i think how i would change dva in stadium is

get rid of statboost (too many dm powers, basically does what facetanking/wide dm does) and get rid of countermeasures (will always be either too strong and obnoxious to fight or too weak and does nothing)

and add something to synergize with weapon power and something else to synergize with toki slam

[bright briar]

it was good for like a couple days when it was bugged

it used to combo w/ the sleep dart dmg item triggering it twice

it made sleep dart do 200 dmg

they fixed the bug, then nerfed the power

[bright briar]

*it was only 200 dmg without the AOE sleep dart power

[oak crest]

I really wish I wanna be in All-Star

[oak crest]

oop- YOU IN HBOX SERVER? O3O

Nnnnone of it looks very convincing

[kind sluice]

What can i use to increase lucio healing

[acoustic kiln]

AP

[acoustic kiln]

okay yeah i got to 110% and it was strong

the only problem is that AP freja doesn't build much money

which hurts because its a late game build

[lavish mauve]

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[oak crest]

Nnnnone of it looks very convincing

[livid marsh]

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[neon galleon]

@proven knot Legendary Loadout is back

The nerf knocked the damage down to 126-

[proven knot]

i was a tryhard in smash back in the day

[neon galleon]

The nerf still didn’t stop me from winning a game as Dva but I think I can feel the countermeasure nerf, either that or the enemy team didn’t pump a lot of damage into my dm-

Accidentally got my bomb over the wall near the spawn on Ilios Ruins and killed both their supports-

[oak crest]

OK, YOU ARE HACKED

[proven knot]

wait

[proven knot]

?

that cant be right

[proven knot]

oh ya countermeasures is gutted

i never used it tho

[neon galleon]

That’s what the code said the damage was

[neon galleon]

Yeah it definitely hurts the missile build but I’m still finding that you can get a lot of missiles out

[proven knot]

yeah just that number contradicts the “patch notes”

the twitter post

[neon galleon]

Well the number is at least close to being accurate since it took 3 volleys of it to kill Reaper

[proven knot]

i trust the stadium training room code

for comparisob

the old damage was 166.5

[neon galleon]

What powers do you specifically grab anyway cause I’ve been grabbing LL Countermeasure, Facetanking, Ultrawide. Plan on swapping Facetanking and Countermeasure around and sticking with Mastermind’s Mitigator for a few more rounds if I find I’m taking too much damage and not getting healed up fast enough heading into round 3

[proven knot]

the nerf should have put it down to 158.25

[proven knot]

leg load -> facetanking -> double missiles -> matchup flex

[neon galleon]

Ultrawide I feel like would be the general pick for that build, I don’t see much else you could slot in instead of it instead of maybe express detonation if you find that they’ll get caught out by the faster explosion. Party Protector could be good if you need that extra overhealth to get back into your mech

[proven knot]

I actually like party protector

tho yeah u wide is the general option

[neon galleon]

Nebula conduit I find is a lot better on Dva than I first thought thanks to Facetanking, do wish we had another way of speeding up DM’s recovery time though

[proven knot]

Haven’t tried it. facetanking is usually all of my sustain

pretty broken power

genuinely surprised it got buffed

[neon galleon]

I just had a match against Orisa, Cass, Mei, Mercy, Kiri. Was getting shredded in between my dm’s for a few rounds despite still doing well but getting Nebula Conduit allowed me to better survive those in between moments since that 15% prevented damage doesn’t seem to tick too well……now I’m wondering something….does Cushioned Padding count it as a negative effect?

Omg it does-

[proven knot]

wait

how does that work

[neon galleon]

Cushioned padding actually gets rid of some of conduit’s tick damage-

[neon galleon]

The tick must count as a negative effect and I’m guessing the devs didn’t make Cushioned Padding exclude Conduit’s ticks

[proven knot]

so

you don’t take the entire damage?

[neon galleon]

I didn’t take the entire damage

[proven knot]

interesting

Def a bug

[neon galleon]

Granted because I was Dva and it was against the rocket bots it was like 3 damage I saved buuuuut that does mean some interesting things can occur

[proven knot]

if legendary loadout is really 122 damage now

[neon galleon]

Oh it probably is cause my Dva’s mech keeps making a tiger roar and the health regen sound keeps starting up periodically

[proven knot]

i need to go back to the drawing board with my buidl

[neon galleon]

Not fully, cause the nerf messed with how much the heavy rockets scaled due to how the devs made them stronger

[proven knot]

ok i gotta check this out when i get home

[neon galleon]

Base Micro Missiles with 80% AP and onslaught did 337 damage. Heavy missiles with the same thing did 301

[proven knot]

yeah that seems like a bug

Reg missiles doing more can’t be intentional

[neon galleon]

Adding 20% AP to the original 80% makes Micro do 374 and Heavy 334

[proven knot]

ok i saw a screenshot of the armory

the math isn’t correct

350% to 325%

should not be 122 damage

[neon galleon]

So either the text is lying or they accidentally put in the wrong number in the code

[proven knot]

i bet

wrong code

[neon galleon]

Welp either way let’s put in a bug report, see if it gets them to fix one or the other

Alright I made the report

Welp I’m about to fight a Zarya as Dva, I wonder how many missiles I can fire out with countermeasures

[zealous escarp]

Blade scales off of ability power and weapon power

I didn’t realize that till just now

[neon galleon]

Now they’re trying YouTube videos?

[tepid folio]

i got a question

in stadium how can i deal with rein

i win every game besides ones with him in it he walks over my entire team

i even buy the perks that do extra damage to shields but it doesnt work

[proven knot]

...It really is bugged

i just checked

[neon galleon]

Who do you usually play as and what kind of Rein do you usually fight

[tepid folio]

i play as any dps

usually cass, solider, reaper, or genji

i play with my friend and she plays dva all the time

and i feel like i fight aggressive rein players

they just stay close to mid range

swing their hammer

[neon galleon]

So like Hammer or charge Reins?

[tepid folio]

hammer

i get hit with at least 3 earthshatters a game

and once we can kill him the team just dies after but the problem is killing him

[neon galleon]

Alright if you go rocket build on Soldier get Liquid Nitrogen, any rocket that manages to hit him will slow him down and that can really screw him over

Cass….honestly go full WP and fan the hammer on him, if you can keep him down that way quickly enough he’ll have a harder time scaling out of control

Reaper has 2 options: completely ignore the Rein and kill the rest of his team, or go tank buster and specifically get the ghosted power

If you pass through Rein with wraith and you have the Ghosted power, his movement and attack speed get slowed by 30%

As for Genji…..why are you trying to fight Rein as Genji-

[tepid folio]

i try to go around him to get any squishy but bc my team cant push forward its often a 1v5 and then yeah

[tepid folio]

but yeah i'll try this

any advice for dva vs rein

same thing?

[neon galleon]

A Hammer Rein is going to attempt to bulldoze Dva over, either try to keep him at bay with boost, missiles, and liquid nitrogen or help the diver kill the rest of his team

No matter how you slice it, try to stop him from getting as much money as possible

The longer it takes for him to build up to a significant amount, the easier it’ll be to kill him before he can scale too much

If it’s a fire strike Rein Dva will be able to outperform him at range and Reaper and Genji can have a better time fighting him up close, if it’s a charge Rein bait him into a bad charge and unload on him before his team can save his ass, and if it’s a shield Rein……literally ignore him and kill everyone else first. Shield Reins are stubborn when it comes to dying and most I face don’t build a lot of damage.

They’re basically just trying to be a brick wall for you to smash your head against in vain

[tepid folio]

Alright I’ll see if that works thanks a lot

[neon galleon]

Watch out for fliers though, those fuckers are creative, in both getting kills and getting into bullshit spots to survive long enough for his team to get back to the fight

[acoustic kiln]

it feels like im matched up against people that are way better than me

i cant do shit on dps

[tepid folio]

i felt the same way

i say just consistently try different builds and characters and try to see what youre doing the worst on as your main

[acoustic kiln]

when i play support its fine

as long as im not playing ana i can win

but no matter which build or dps i use i just feel like im getting carried every game

[oak crest]

I’m gonna say this right now. I FUCKING hate Stadium from the bottom of my soul.

[acoustic kiln]

playing stadium is hell but its the only mode i find fun anymore

but i cant even play dps anymore

[oak crest]

But also, kiss your excitement goodbye. You will have no joy in this mode.

Because HOLY the matchmaking in Stadium is honestly shit. In fact, I GENUINELY THINK matchmaking doesn’t even exist at all.

[acoustic kiln]

they really do need to fix that

[oak crest]

Also IF I were to get a survey talking about Stadium saying if it’s fun or if I should recommend to new players, I would honestly not hold it back, go for the kill and instantly just say “no…it’s not even fun for newcomers”

[acoustic kiln]

if somebody was new to overwatch stadium would just overwhelm them

[oak crest]

In fact, I actually did say in chat “Either they actually fix Stadium, or I’m probably not gonna play it at all”

[acoustic kiln]

when im playing support it feels fine but on dps its excruciating

[oak crest]

Tank is also a Russian Roulette

Sorry. I know it might sounds frustrating for me, because I know…I am frustrated after losing 4 consecutive games after 2 wins: a 4-1 and a 4-3

[paper snow]

freya needs a nerf to her dmg at range

it should have

fall off

idc

both her bolts and her regular fire dont have fall off

She need 90% fall off at range

idc

its stupid how she can do it from safe distances

like absurdly far

[acoustic kiln]

in the past 24 hours i am 3-7 in stadium

[paper snow]

have you ever considered you are building wrong

like buying armor or sheilds so you dont pop like a balloon

lifesteal items to help you not die

[acoustic kiln]

yes

[grizzled breach]

Hey I need a good Ana build anyone got one? I kinda want a sleep build or like a nano build

[turbid kiln]

SLEEP DPS BUILD

[fallow socket]

sleep regimen + no scope needed

[turbid kiln]

noooo they nerfed slowball

[hushed jewel]

I just wanna game a stadium after my reaper told me that I was shit and then I went into an MVP and get the most kills in the entire fucking game

And my play the game was a 5K

[turbid kiln]

what character where you playin

[south forge]

can someone mansplain to me how im supposed to reach allstar because i am. struggling

20 minute support queues just to lose is making me crazy

[hybrid gust]

i was on a fresh acc and matched with ASPEN

😭

[grizzled breach]

Just find a good dps and run mercy

[hybrid gust]

play over a period of time

supp q are infinite

[turbid kiln]

bro my soldiers doing gun build and the other soldier is doing helix rocket build T_T

[oak crest]

PC?

[hybrid gust]

yeah

literal first stadium match

[oak crest]

I mean for PC, it’s fine. But boy on console, nearly all of the times they are not holding your hand.

[south forge]

problem is i cant find a good dps that likes playing stadium

[grizzled breach]

There are tons of good dps in stadium lfg always asking for a pocket check and you’ll find one

[white viper]

i struggle to find good dps in stadium too, my gf and i got to all star with her playing tank and me playing support, but now that we are here we need a good third to comm with and so far none of our dps have been good enough to add a friend and continue playing with lol. she can also play good as dps (her main role) but its easier to carry on tank with me giga healing her

[forest coral]

oh brother played against the same guy days later bro wasw NOT happy about me

[turbid kiln]

lmao

tbf Ana in stadium is so annoying😭

[neon quest]

I’ve never played against or with Ana in stadium. is she really that bad?

[hushed jewel]

Just finished a game of stadium against rein and not only did I win

I got mvp

The most dmg in the game

And 82 kills

With only 7 deaths

[main jungle]

Her most viable build is sleep spam, and since you can turn her sleep dart into a sleep missle, it isn't even hard to hit consistently

[turbid kiln]

It’s bad she had a power that makes her sleep dart 500% bigger

[neon quest]

omg that’s so cool

Maybe I’ll main her in stadium

[hushed jewel]

They need to fucking nerf JQ

There is literally no reason the tank should have the most heals in the game

[split osprey]

waiting 10 mins in queue and going through all 7 rounds just to lose is the worst feeling ever ,, smth needs to be done abt these queue times 😭

[hushed jewel]

Maybe it’s just that dva has awful powers

Compared to all the other tanks dvas are so fucking ass

[turbid kiln]

who wins a rein with hammer build or rein with fire strike build

lowkey i can already tell if where gonna win just by what my teammates buy

[hushed jewel]

No clue tbh

I don’t play Erin

Rein*

[neon galleon]

Depends on teammates and their aggression levels

[turbid kiln]

well i can bet you

hammer build wins most the time

since fire strike isnt a aggressive build

and dumping money into just ability power

[neon galleon]

Cause a Firestrike Rein only truly needs to get impact burst for optimal fire striking, meaning they can get some powers to further boost fire strike, boost up charging, their shield, get fire strikes after a shatter, or even some hammer stuff of their own

[turbid kiln]

i aint realise this but the biotech maximizer works on every orb moria summosn

summons

[neon galleon]

Plus a Firestrike Rein can get both cybervenom and liquid nitrogen to just absolutely cripple the hammer rein

[turbid kiln]

well

geuss what my rein didnt get

either one\

i think fire strike could work if you play it not like how you play rein normally

[neon galleon]

It can be with dampener grip, making it to where all of your hammer swings speed up both your cooldowns

[turbid kiln]

true true

but you would need something to survive atleast

unless you got like a healbot moria build

on your team

but most morias go ability power for dpsing

[neon galleon]

You could also get the heal barrier and the extra barrier health to allow yourself to get effective healing with it, like I said Firestrike Rein only truly needs Impact Burst

Technically speaking Firestrike Rein goes online sooner since that build doesn’t need as much to start cooking while Hammer Rein still needs a chance to build their stacks up

[turbid kiln]

true true

i never see people use blazing blitz

it looks like it would be fun if set up properly

[neon galleon]

And let’s not forget every Firestrike build is also a charge build in disguise

[neon galleon]

Oh I always grab it as my second power for Firestrike Rein, it just gives your shatters significantly more value whether it hits someone or not

[turbid kiln]

ahh

i wish i knew how to play rein

sounds fun

[neon galleon]

Imagine the enemy Rein blocks your shatter but instead of being able to attempt to get in your face he has to worry about the 4 incoming Firestrikes

[turbid kiln]

true lol

i wanna try it but

ion wanna get flamed by my team if we lose

also i dont know how to play tank

and i dont wanna touch dps anymore since they nerfed slowball for mei

[neon galleon]

Think of it like this: you need to cull a fair bit of the aggression that regular Rein has

[turbid kiln]

ahh

when stadium came out my fav rein build was the barrier build

until people started doing hammer build

[neon galleon]

You basically become a poke brawl hybrid with a very mean poke that can be weaved into brawling situations if one occurs

[neon galleon]

As for playing tank, there are 3 main things that generally apply to them: making space, peeling, and being the frontline. Each tank has them at different priorities but those are the 3 main points I find with tank in the game

[turbid kiln]

whats peeling

[neon galleon]

Basically using your character’s stuff to protect your teammates

So in Rein’s case, charging down a flanker fucking with your supports or getting between your team and a Dva bomb and holding your barrier up

Lots of characters that aren’t tanks have some peeling capabilities but you’ll see it talked about a lot with tanks

[turbid kiln]

I HATE PLAYING WITH SIGMA AS MY TANK BRO

sigma is not good in stadium

i wish they didnt add sigma into stadium

i wait like 7 mins just for my tank to play sigma

and doesnt even use any sigma meta builds which are the only good builds he will have

since almost all of his powers are doodoo butt

i always get the sigma that picks the melee power

as a first power

[hushed jewel]

There’s a glitch with zen in stadium

His ability item mind sharper only applies once and after that you don’t get the 15% ult charge

[hushed jewel]

Hey @lone dome can you delete these random photos? It looks like a bunch of scam links

[lone dome]

oh

what the frick

!ban 511958617600294923 compromised acc

[upper narwhal]

Banned ghostlight13 (Case #210920)

[hushed jewel]

Sorry for singling you out you’re just the first mod that I saw was online

[lone dome]

!ban 540868487116095509 compromised acc

[upper narwhal]

Banned i262920 (Case #210921)

[lone dome]

nahhh ur chilling dw gang

[hushed jewel]

Okay

[lone dome]

idk why they love this channel

[hushed jewel]

Hopefully I don’t get a virus

[lone dome]

make sure to enable 2FA <3

[hushed jewel]

I think I do

[neon galleon]

He can be, I’ve seen Sigmas do good damage and be hard to kill, the problem is he is the first true poke tank added to Stadium so a lot of people playing Stadium are in a readjustment period when they choose to play him. You can’t just go in guns blazing with him like you could the other tanks that are in Stadium

[fathom ermine]

the duality of man with new hero introductions into stadium 😂
ive seen so many different comments saying each new hero is good/bad

[misty nacelle]

did ashe's dynamite get a buff?

I feel like it was always good but its been one shooting on round 1 lately

and its kinda unfair

[neon galleon]

What do you mean it’s one shotting?

[misty nacelle]

as in with one dynamite its enough to kill you

[neon galleon]

It shouldn’t be, Tracer has a fair shot at surviving a round 1 Dynamite

[misty nacelle]

well it seems like its even better suddenly

which is weird cause they didnt touch it

[neon galleon]

Something else is happening cause I did a test either in the practice range and Tracer was able to live a 10% AP Dynamite

[pliant dragon]

stadium matchmaking still broken?

[turbid kiln]

wdym

like the skill difference between each team is still really bad

[turbid kiln]

when are they finna fix the bug that lets you see what the other team is picking?

[hushed jewel]

@marble fractal someone posted scam things again

[fallow socket]

why always stadium

😭

[nocturne sandal]

More scamming scammy

I lwk wish I could play more stadium but my attention span is so bad that I can only handle about 10 minutes of constant dopamine

Like the games are so long

I know I win most of them but its like

taking forever

kind of like working out

[cursive nymph]

Ts @proven knot guy sucks

[proven knot]

shut up

you know damn well bush did it

[turbid kiln]

over a hour long stadium game

this is the final round

it lasted 28 mins

both tanks where using super immortal builds

and i was using transendence build

[zenith igloo]

The mercy mit

Wow

[neon galleon]

That’s…either from that power that lets her give overhealth to anyone she is healing that is already at max or it’s from the overhealth she grants herself and whoever she rezzes I think-

[turbid kiln]

it was a really fun game

but really stressful

the entire time i was just farming ult charge off the dva

[hybrid gust]

cus the bots are made to only post in lowr traffic channels

its wird

[pliant dragon]

where it says can group with 15/10/5 divisions and its going beyond those

[fallow socket]

yall seen tokki slam dva?

its infesting my games and its op as shit

all survivability w 300 damage goomba stomps and baby dva never dies too

[gritty tulip]

3ZGGRP - Round 1 - 5:27
YXSG94 - Round 2 = 5:12
YCY7F3 - Round 3 - 13:28
2T8P5Q - Round 4 - 4:1 4
MX97A4 - Round 5 - 7:53
X8QS3S - Round 6 - 29:43
Entire game duration 65:57

if anyone has an HOUR to kill and wants to laugh.

My soldier went 77-77

[verbal lake]

Holy shit

[main jungle]

Soldier is genuinely easy baby mode in this, even at pro there's almost always one on each team and if a team doesn't have one they lose 80% of the time. Its just so lame. I wish I had the specific mind virus that made running the same overpowered build over and over again fun. Man I hate that character

[fallow socket]

same build tho? i never see the same exact build in soldiers

some going chaingun wp, or ap helix, wp/ap hybrid, ap helix with biotic fields. and rarely the guy trying to run damaging biotic

[neon galleon]

And of course certain characters and items can man handle each of those builds, Dva in general isn’t kind to Soldier, and Cybervenom + Liquid Nitrogen basically kneecaps damaging biotic

[nocturne sandal]

I be winning every game on soldier running a weapon speed/power build lmao

Kinda crazy how in the beta test this wasnt really a problem but Ig since some time has passed better strategies accumulated

[fallow socket]

dva mauls soldier its so funny

[neon galleon]

I can see a fast acting Genji or Orisa with spin deflect quickly making that kind of build backfire on you. Heck a Countermeasure Dva could probably also do it depending on how much damage you end up pumping out before you let go of the trigger