stadium-discussion

[forest coral]

zen just amplifies that so it can be kinda fucked

you actually need to play out of your mind

positioning and engages need to be precise

but like

i won a 4v5 while perma discorded and getting constantly bombarded by a damage boosted freja

with a super bolt spam build

and three tap tommy n shit

so never tell me the odds

[proven knot]

are you playing in your elo yet?

[forest coral]

LOL

good question

[proven knot]

prob not lol

[forest coral]

there was that time when i was still in classes and playing really late and tired

and i think i lost 10+ dva games in a row

this was back when i was experimenting with tokki slam too

and my friend hadnt given me his dva advice yet that figured out the hero for me

[proven knot]

ground pound is awesome

[forest coral]

so my elo probably got shot to hell from that

[proven knot]

is it good? idk but its cool

[forest coral]

i would just die every time i engaged with it tbh

[proven knot]

ok to be fair

ground pound's skill ceiling is absurdly high

[forest coral]

agreed

i think i just need to engage less with it

and use it more in midfight

if im going to pick it up again

[proven knot]

back before meka punch changes

[forest coral]

but i like my power set up

[proven knot]

the skill ceiling for the build was double melee into slam

and the other thing

was learning how to condition opponents with it

[forest coral]

i feel like even those few seconds of immobility often give reins and zaryas n crew room to close the distance on you

so your matrix disengage doesnt matter

[proven knot]

it'

it's not easy to use at all

[forest coral]

i cant fairly evaluate tokki slam tho

bc i mostly used it when i was playing dva super ass

[proven knot]

i think

it's good because it allows you to spec a lot into survivability (armor)

but how good?

[forest coral]

my friend told me to just treat matrix as your disengage cooldown

[proven knot]

i really dont know

[forest coral]

idk why that didnt cliick for me before

[proven knot]

not like i was good at using it either

[forest coral]

engage with booster and use full matrix to stall for cover / boosters

and then suddenly my dva went from like

2.8k to 3.5k

it's really funny but everything just clicked

[proven knot]

i started winning after i found a build that let me just use my comp playstyle

[forest coral]

it's weird bc i dont think stadium dva really plays like any other hero i play

and surely not my old dva playstyle

[proven knot]

do you play dva in normal ow

[forest coral]

not well

[proven knot]

surprising

[forest coral]

usually just a flex pick if im on like

[proven knot]

figured everyone who played her in stadium was basically just a dva loyalist in normal

[forest coral]

dorado defense gib defense blizz world defense

[proven knot]

like im a one trick

[forest coral]

my dva was like 50 hours before stadium

[primal shoal]

15 game winstreak

[forest coral]

this is my normal hero pool

[primal shoal]

from rookie 5 to elite 3

[forest coral]

so yes very aggression based

[proven knot]

cool hero pool

[forest coral]

i think my dva playstyle is closer to genji/doom playstyle?

[proven knot]

i see why you chose her in stadium

[forest coral]

a little bit of winston

[forest coral]

yeah she's the closest i had to my comfort playstyle

[hearty lodge]

Nice! Hahaha
I got to 31 winstreak from rookie to pro 2 then lost because tank went afk and i got the shop bug so had to restart 🫠

[forest coral]

though honestly i think i'll probably enjoy her in stadium more than winston when he comes out

[primal shoal]

zamn

[forest coral]

ive really grown to like how she plays in stadium

i enjoy her in stadium about as much as i enjoy my typical ow mains in regular

[primal shoal]

dude your build is genius

[proven knot]

i really liked trying to pioneer a build for her

think i did a good job on it too

[forest coral]

i really liked being confused the first time i played her so i just went to ow serious and asked you what you did and copied your work

[hearty lodge]

Whats your build @proven knot ?

[forest coral]

then mixed what i liked about your build with what was working for my friend

and a little bit of my genji playstyle

[proven knot]

yeah makes sense

my build was designed for both console and pc

so with that in mind

i valued meka punch a bit less

good power

but i wasnt getting full value from it

[forest coral]

it's like hey i've seen a good dva otp around chances are he's put in the effort that i dont want to put in i should go take his notes

[hearty lodge]

Not the story, the list. I wanna see the item and power progression

[proven knot]

Legendary loadout -> facetanking -> double missiles/wide dm

[forest coral]

yeah i think you said you went for meka punch -> double missiles -> slam

or smth like that

[proven knot]

Items are weaspon damage

mostly

[forest coral]

back when i first asked

[proven knot]

with anti heals on weap dam being prioritized

[forest coral]

i tried to make early slam work and just build a bunch of armor shit

gloomgauntlet ogundimu reduction the rare armor conversion crusader hydaulics etc

[proven knot]

oh ya

i remember running that

it won be games but i dont think i ever wouldve hit all star with ti

it was also pre facetanking buffs

[forest coral]

but then i had my big slump where i was always mentally tired from diff eqs and physics work and playing late and thought maybe my build was ass and experimented with other things

im still wondering if i went like 15w 2l bc my elo fell off so bad or just bc i became enlightened on stadium dva

prolly a mix

no longer doing hours of differential equations hw every day probably also helped

[proven knot]

https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/5a458303-8e8d-4c37-8d9d-bdff3f9bc1a5
full build with detailed descriptions. Ignore the meka punch stuff I'm not running it rn

tho

i think meka punch can work

[proven knot]

calc sucks

[proven knot]

enlightened

gotta lose to win

i def grinded losses for my knowledge

[forest coral]

tell me about it i had a problem that was like 21 diff steps all annoying

[proven knot]

lucky for me tho i had the luxury to do all of my testing on pc and put everything that seemed good to the test on console

for example bomb build fell off pretty early on pc so I stopped using it much earlier on console

[forest coral]

lifesteal is always so damn hard to judge though

[proven knot]

i cant tell

at all

[forest coral]

i never really get feedback on how much phantasmic flux does

i just take it on faith

[proven knot]

i test a lot in training

and training does not tell me anything abt if lifesteal is good or not

its too situational

[forest coral]

like yes theoretically i can just take damage from the rocket bots and shoot them to see what it does

[proven knot]

yeah in theory

i did that a lot

[forest coral]

but in game im not standing still shooting a giant bot in the head

[proven knot]

yup

[forest coral]

it'd be cool if there was like a 1v1 simulation gamemode

just fight like a rein or dva ai with my stadium build

[proven knot]

yeah we need more stuff for stadium

[forest coral]

see how much i heal off of them

[forest coral]

lowkey i think it's the best mode they've ever released tho

[proven knot]

agreed

[forest coral]

my personal fav will always be the storm rising pve by stadium is so damn good

it allows u to take the things u dont like about playing some characters and just get rid of them

[proven knot]

i love how much depth stadium has

[forest coral]

play in your own way

[proven knot]

at this point

i just want them to add leaderboards

[forest coral]

i like taking flanks as soldier but im not an aimer whatsoever so what do i do i get to play the stupid ass heal field build with the stink aura

[proven knot]

and adjust the ranks a bit so rank actually feels "real"

and then its perfect

[forest coral]

do i absolutely throw the first 4 rounds where you need to be able to aim to get money and general value absolutely

do i win every single map 7 bc im unkillable do ridiculous damage and provide constant healing slow and anti heal absolutely

[acoustic kiln]

HOW

THE HELL

DID THE GAME GO 7 ROUNDS

AND ONE OF MY SUPPORTS DIDNT EVEN BREAK 10K HEALING

[forest coral]

mm i dont mind the current system

it's a lot easier to get my friends with comp anxiety to play

[proven knot]

yeah

[acoustic kiln]

😭

[proven knot]

thats valid

[forest coral]

since i can just tell them the rank isnt really rank

it's mostly just how much you play the mode

[proven knot]

idk i dont think its a huge priority

[acoustic kiln]

i hate having a zenyatta on my team if im playing tank

[proven knot]

however

i very much would like to see a leaderboard

[forest coral]

i just say it's basically qp with comp points

and im not really lying bc that's honestly how it feels to me

i struggle with ranked anxiety quite a bit too so it's really nice for me

[proven knot]

yeah i get that

I avoid playing tank in comp unless I'm in a mood to hard carry

actually nah i think it was more hero bans

idk what this draft system idea for stadium is

but it better not be anything resembling hero bans

[forest coral]

i feel like stadium doesnt have any really atrocious tank match ups at least

[proven knot]

it rly doesnt

[forest coral]

orisa and zarya can feel really bad to play against as certain heroes if paired with kiri and/or lucio

[proven knot]

oh ya lucio is a diff story

but i dont think any tank mu is bad otherwise

[acoustic kiln]

you could build around any matchup tbh

[forest coral]

trying to play queen against an anti-tank orisa build esp with lucio or juno

when u dont have your own speed

is genuinely atrocious

but queen does get that anti-kb speed boost perk

[proven knot]

honestly i rly dont mind tank outside of stadium either

counterpicking never bothered me

[forest coral]

playing queen against zarya kiri lucio is probably just the least fun experience in the game tho

4 cleanses 2 boops

they get better speed control

playing dva against teams that super stack boops is just as bad

[proven knot]

thank god no one plays lucio

[forest coral]

played against ashe lucio orisa once

orisa had the shit where javelin spin throws a javelin

lucio had double boop

it's like what do i even do

theoretically i can matrix the javelins but that's not always feasible

[proven knot]

do you just commit to shooting the tank at that point?

like ya you can eat jav but lucio is still gonna boop you

[forest coral]

trick question that's never the answer against orisa

[proven knot]

oh dva does have 1 build that can do it

[forest coral]

unless you have discord and armor shred perk

and the anti-heal/speed reduction stuff applied

[proven knot]

theres a dm power that shoots rockets whenever you eat damage

basically that + ability power

[forest coral]

do you just full build matrix and ap

[proven knot]

basically

[forest coral]

matrix recharge on boost bigger matrix maybe idk

[proven knot]

youre better off using a different build

but like

if lucio is just denying your engages anyways

idk

not like the build is bad

it doesnt rly work if orisa doesnt have dps that trigger the dm rocket power well tho

[forest coral]

at this point i'd just commit to an ap build with the anti heal and speed reduction perks

i dont think i'll be able to confirm the kills easily but i can probably punish him enough

surely lucio with speed reduction feels super duper ass

[proven knot]

surely

[neon galleon]

He can be, but I’ve seen some Zen’s get hard to kill even as Reaper and it can get even harder much quicker if his team starts actually helping him

[proven knot]

but ya like i said have not been able to do much testing vs lucio

[forest coral]

it's def harder you have to understand that you have much less leeway with taking damage before your engage

you need to path in a way that sets you up without losing a good amount of ur armor which often involves giving enemy team a lot of space you dont want them to get and not getting a lot of space for your team

[proven knot]

its a pain in the ass

[forest coral]

but in return the enemy tank will likely have a lot less room to walk on you

[proven knot]

everybody LOVES to play fast

[forest coral]

or your team

[proven knot]

the concept of playing slow is hard to get teammates to do usually

[forest coral]

yeah it's not exactly the same thing but like sometimes i'll be playing on colosseo or france and i'll go chase a kill and feed and die bc the person i was chasing got respawn reinforcement and it's like

well i was prepared to have to deal with respawners but i didnt expect to get melted that fast- where the fuck is my team

why are 4 people on bot

[proven knot]

xd

[forest coral]

just 1 healer or dps and i confirm the stagger and/or get out alive

but we gotta have both healers and both dps sitting on bot i guess

its speed maxes out with 1 person btw

[proven knot]

oh i know

[forest coral]

@ my supports @ my dps

[proven knot]

its so funny

but nature of stadium

ranks are way more mixed

not like comp

[forest coral]

sometimes u do get the plats

[proven knot]

haha you get the plats a lot

they're everywhere

[forest coral]

icl the rank mixing can be fun sometimes

like i just get to aurafarm

i won a game with this soldier and he got on my team the next game and the first thing he said was "BiS dva we've already won"

[proven knot]

"you're the best d.va ive ever seen" ya im ngl that did feel good

[forest coral]

EXACTLY

stadium players are so deprived of good dvas

[proven knot]

I KNOW

[forest coral]

that u just get to look like a god for playing a half decent dva game

[proven knot]

nobody in comp glazes me

[forest coral]

everyone just locks queen zar rein and slams their head into their keyboard it boggles their minds when you play a hero that doesnt just frontline trade but kills 3 every fight

[proven knot]

oh ya. u should add me for stadium. i think ana is a ton of fun to play with dva

[forest coral]

are u west or east coast

[proven knot]

central

[forest coral]

ah

[proven knot]

equally close to both

my ping is literally always the same regardless of which server

[forest coral]

the build i've been seeing my friends use is the sleep health gives you max health power

they usually go one of the nano powers round 1

[proven knot]

oh i got something better

[forest coral]

sleep max health round 3

[proven knot]

in fact

[forest coral]

and get the op sleep dart item

[proven knot]

it was designed to be used with dva

farm nano as fast as possible

[forest coral]

so i just have an ana with 600 health running around doing whatever the fuck she wants

[proven knot]

unscoped power -> nano power -> nano power

[forest coral]

i mean u gotta go unscoped at this point

with what they did to ana scope

[proven knot]

what did they do

[forest coral]

i think they gave her a slower zoom in animation

so quickscoping is dead and feels really clunky

[proven knot]

for 3rd person?

[forest coral]

i think just in general?

[proven knot]

idk

1st person feels the same

[forest coral]

i saw some tweets saying that 8 years of ana muscle memory just got fucked over

and when my ana main friend played it for the first time he sounded like he just passed a kidney

like bro actually sounded like he'd lost the house

[proven knot]

i havent noticed anything

and ana is my second most played character

[forest coral]

maybe it's third person

[proven knot]

and i crutch quickscoping a lot

but anyways the idea with ana dva

is dva is a good nano target compared to others tanks and easy to farm it off of

[forest coral]

mhm

prob the second best nano target in the mode

[proven knot]

and also she allows ana to play in more aggressive space and get better nade angles

[forest coral]

i still think nano genji edges out over dva

with or without blade

[proven knot]

for sure

[forest coral]

just bc he's much harder to like

[proven knot]

but imo for ana to really shine in this game mode

[forest coral]

lucio moment

or orisa moment

[proven knot]

you want multiple nano targets

so ideally

[forest coral]

yeah probably

[proven knot]

dva genji

genji + a tank that is bad with nano

feels ass

[forest coral]

lowkey feel bad for any ana player that's got me on dva tho

u got a ball doom player on dva LOL so there are your peel expectations

[proven knot]

yeah heres the thing

i never peel on dva

so thats perfect

i dont want it

HEALERS can peel themselves smh

broken ass cds

[forest coral]

i only do it if a genji or tank obviously super overextends

if u deny the kill they probably just get fucked

[proven knot]

besides

[forest coral]

esp queen

i feel like sometimes you just need to peel queen

[proven knot]

dva naturally has to fight the enemies that are a real threat to ana anyways

[forest coral]

it was more important before the shout reset nerf

[proven knot]

genji fighting for the same angles

[forest coral]

if she gets the first shout reset

even your super backline trading powers as dva

[proven knot]

ana sleeps

zzz

[forest coral]

get quickly outmatched

but a lot of queens play to live or die by shout reset

[fallow socket]

what is your dva build? have a code or a stadium build link?

[forest coral]

so if you can deny any of the followup from the axe swing and stabilize your backline

you probably win fight off of punishing queen

[proven knot]

https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/5a458303-8e8d-4c37-8d9d-bdff3f9bc1a5
its last patch but barely anything has changed

just ignore bomb build (kinda but not entirely)

[fallow socket]

Ty

[proven knot]

and maybe meka punch too

but the build guide is incredibly detailed and has substitutions for everything

honestly meka punch probly would still work id just have to change my writeup for it

actually ya fuck bomb build thats shits for noobs i am GLAD it got nerfed

[fallow socket]

The daehyun detonator nerf right

[proven knot]

yes

[fallow socket]

that was kinda funny seeing that clip of the guy walking out of spawn and dying

no warning sign or anything

[proven knot]

lol that happened to me as dva and the bomb was basically in the middle of Nepal

it was silly

[proven knot]

anyways tag is throws#11119 if you want to play stadium. like i said been looking for a dva duo

[forest coral]

i'll make sure i get back into my slump just for u prepare for a 10 game loss streak

[proven knot]

hey as long as youre not losing me my dva games idc lol

love support but legend on tank is my only goal this season

besides ana/dva has crazy synergy

[paper snow]

I understand it now

the clone wasnt the problem

its the tp without a person

its like playing against sombra but she is immortal and has infinite movement

remove the power that gives her tp without ally

and she is better

[paper snow]

dva genji goes brrr too

[proven knot]

ya but see i dont know any genji players so

[paper snow]

yeah

[proven knot]

crazy duo tho

[paper snow]

I am the lone genji player

[proven knot]

shame hes broken af in stadium

well more accurately

just the best option for flex deeps

[plain lantern]

Me when i see freja on the enemy team in stadium

[proven knot]

"broken af" is hyperbole

[fallow socket]

so, just a few questions abt d.va

what makes legendary loadout so good? it doesnt seem too much stronger than base missiles, is it more consistent or scales better with ability power?

ive always ran face tanking + focused fusion when i play d.va so i just want to hear your thoughts about focused firing as well as clarification on legendary loadout

and 3 epics ive always ran with d.va are onslaught ordinance (15 ap, 20% more missiles), superflexor (10 wp, 25 ap, 25 health), and weapon jammer, (10 wp, 10 aspd, 25 armor) yet i see no mention of them. if i could have ur thoughts on these items too

ty!!

[neon galleon]

From what I can gather on Legendary Loadout one of the biggest selling points is using it with countermeasures as firing 2 heavy missiles is A LOT better than firing 2 micro missiles, as for scaling….turns out to get the increase damage the devs simply gave the missiles a 250% AP boost, meaning that the heavy missiles BARELY scale at all. To the point of where at 35% AP, Micro Missiles are able to kill the regular bots while heavy missiles are a bit short.

[fallow socket]

thank you, the ap thing is crazy to note lol

[errant scarab]

@proven knot @forest coral y'all mentioned a dva punch build? do you just go full wep dmg or do you go for more atk speed? Idk how much wep dmg i should get or if I should go full atk speed.

Also i played it using ability power instead of wep power for the lava and missiles so idk if you got a better one

[forest coral]

dont focus solely on punch

i go meka punch and melee heal round 1 gloomgauntlet round 2 if i have the cash

then phantasmic flux then i transition into an ap build

legendary loadout mark of kitsune cybervenom liquid nitrogen n stuff

ur main priority is to find a way to just boost into someone and blow them up as fast as possible

and save matrix to use selfishly to get yourself out

[errant scarab]

ty

ok so if a stadium game "server closes due to error" it starts the round over

on a different map

actually it skips the map

and does the next two rounds on the same map

[viral bear]

any girlies play stadium

[verbal lake]

This happened to me yesterday

[hybrid gust]

they lowk ruined stadium with junkrat

dude is stupid unfun

like its just miserable to play into

its just plain unfun to play into junkrat

[vapid stone]

the first weekend after the new season drop

14 and a half minute support queue and counting

why do i STILL FIGHT ALL STAR PLAYERS

despite my rank being reset

why is that how it works

[half delta]

Anyone elses quene times for stadium insane i am consistently getting 20 minute plus quene times

[vapid stone]

queueing support?

if so then yeah its a huge issue i have no idea why it is

[half delta]

yeah Ill be on the game for a couple of hours and only be able to play 2 games or something :-;

BTW im at 35 minutes right now

like this is not real

[hearty lodge]

i've had 41 min queue 💀

it's insane, they need to do sth

[mint geyser]

lol, I was coming to complain about queue times and I see others already doing it.. Says 5min queue for support.. been in queue for 22min now

[paper snow]

youre a dva main you got any funny/ wacky builds that are funny

I also main dva

[proven knot]

ok basically what ur gonna want to do

is build around ground pound

"toki slam"

we are calling it ground pound

build armor cus it scales off armor

get facetanking or smthn for survivability

extended boosters item (i forget the name)

and just sit on people. its a ton of fun

throw in meka punch and fish for double melee -> ground pound for a lot of burst damage and probly dvas highest skill ceiling build

[proven knot]

@forest coral is right. he's used meka punch a lot more than i have

[forest coral]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

like noo i absolutely lovep laying against a hero with a bum ass aoe boop that launches at an annoying diagonal angle

2 of those btw he gets 2 charged of that shit for free i lovee not being able to control my character bc he threw an aoe at me

steel trap lowkey may just be my least favorite ability in the game

[hybrid gust]

I LOVE 250 DAMAE MINES LAUNCHED CROSS MAP

[forest coral]

super unengaging on every level root abilities fucking suck

[proven knot]

it is stronger than base missiles. it's also easier to land so you'll get more damage just off the basis that you are landing more rockets. focused fusion? I haven't used it much. I think it's good but I'm a bit biased against it because I OTP Dva in the base game and I'm incredibly used to how fusion canons work already so adapting the distances of my engages to get best use out of it really isn't for me. Onslaught is good, superflexor is fine, and I haven't really used weapon jammer much but I like it. It's fun shooting fast

[forest coral]

but it's mostly the boop its corny as fuck

i lowkey think junk was the worst possible hero they couldve added to stadium

besides maybe pharah

[proven knot]

nah

zen was

he just does not work for stadium

[forest coral]

yeah it's like

oh my zen got the double harmony power

[proven knot]

oh tracer is gonna be awful too

[forest coral]

guess im getting literally no healing this game

[proven knot]

being able to take solo angles is incredibly good in stadium

[forest coral]

like u just cant change tracer

[proven knot]

and tracer is too good at it

[forest coral]

i think one of the worst perk designs in the game

[proven knot]

hard to say

[forest coral]

was the recall gives ur blinks back perk

[proven knot]

theres a couple rly bad ones

Anas is

terrible

[forest coral]

likes lets take the best get out of jail free card ability in the game

that's really hard but satisfying to punish

and just make it unpunishable

lool

[proven knot]

lol

and you just know

shes gonna be turbo horseshit in stadium

with whatever she ends up getting

[forest coral]

blinking through someone slows them !!

[proven knot]

wait i got a good one

pulse bomb tracks

[forest coral]

you just know they're gonna do some shit like that

[proven knot]

ya lol

[forest coral]

tracer gets 2 charges of pulse bomb!!

[proven knot]

wait

real prediction

shes gonna get something that gives you something in return when you miss it lol

[forest coral]

oh god

i was thinking they'd add some shit like when tracer throws pulse it throws 2 more pulse bombsadjacent to it

but that also sounds corny

[proven knot]

you know that item that gives you stats for having 100% ult charge

you think all of the stats you get from it are worth the cost/item slot?

[forest coral]

oh my god u just made me realize

tracer is gonna get so much value from survival perks

[proven knot]

ya lol

[forest coral]

just on the basis that increments of hp means so much more on her than most other squishies

reaper gets 25 hp yeah who cares tracer gets 25 we're fucked

[proven knot]

ya gl

not looking forward to it

pharah on the other hand

is way more vulnerable when she flies in stadium compared to regular

[forest coral]

free food if you're on dva

[proven knot]

because damage is so much higher

[forest coral]

every other tank however

[forest coral]

they did just add a few things that do extra damage to airborne heroes

[proven knot]

yup

[forest coral]

so i guess that's the pharah solution in this mode

[proven knot]

hs has way more damage for her

[forest coral]

oh god

im just thinking about how pharahs gonna have shit like

2 charges of conc blast

conc blast does more kb

the fuckin junkenstein lab thing where it creates a field that constantly repulses

[proven knot]

im so not worried. im predicting shes gonna be forced to take several survival items

[forest coral]

thsoe builds are going to be so ass but so annoying

[proven knot]

itll be funny when people start running pharmercy tho

[hybrid gust]

pharah next season

💔

[hearty lodge]

Tracer... 💀

[reef ibex]

Is there a way to set only specific characters in 1st person?? Cuz idk what it is but I cannot for my life play Rein in 3rd person but I prefer to play everyone else in 3rd person. Pls ping me if you respond

[misty nacelle]

ok juno build wokrs

its so good

but ashe is still awful with genji

every survival item is just not enough

whenever theres no ashe I carry and we win 3-0 or 4-0

[last agate]

Should be an option to change specific hero settings, just choose rein instead of all hero’s

[reef ibex]

Which ones?? I swear I looked into this before

[last agate]

Just go where you normally go to change it and on the right of your screen there’s a button to select a hero you want to change the settings for

[idle light]

Incredibly fatigued by the game devs consistently rewarding low skill high reward heroes/builds like kiriclone, ashe burn build and just moira in general. It is so frustrating to have to sweat and hit 20% crit on cassidy just to keep up with kids who can't aim and spam abilities. It's ridiculous how they make a competitive mode and create anti-fun, low skill floor heroes that can outperform easily

[hearty lodge]

glad it worked for you! 🙂

[hearty lodge]

• 1. Kiri clone was hotfixed (from 5s to 2.5s uptime)
• 2. Ashe was and still is one of the worst DPS in the mode. She's a glass cannon. Sadly you won't feel it that way playing Cassidy specifically, thanks to his lack of good movement abilities. But you can buy Cushioned Padding (Rare/Survival) to mitigate the burns by 40%.
• 3. Cassidy requires tons of good aim to work, even if he is dummy strong when a good player uses him, i feel your struggle...
• 4. Moira doesn't bring any utility to the team unless it's cybervenom. She's the numbers character and i can totally agree she's very strong. But she can't carry games by herself, imo it's a healthy kind of strong. Again, you can always build against it.
• 5. The mode was thought to be chaotic with more emphasis on abilities. It's only natural that aim gets a bit overshadowed there.

[idle light]

Thank you for your incredibly nuanced and patient reply, I was just very frustrated and apologize for the tone my message was written in, I'll look more into playing other heroes and maybe flexing kiri so I can suzu my team from burns

[reef ibex]

It’s driving me mad how Reaper can’t use the camera during his teleport because I feel like his ability builds would be viable, especially if it utilized TP Death Blossom, because Reaper can use a single action before the TP Death Blossom takes action, like firing his gun once or wraithing to cancel the Death Blossom entirely

[inland quiver]

does cushioned padding work on zenyatta discord in stadium?

[primal shoal]

just reached pro with a 100% winrate

[hearty lodge]

niceeeeeeee

im also on a 100% winrate on pro 4!

[primal shoal]

maybe we will meet

im queing rn

[neon galleon]

You can still move your camera if you’re in first person, it’s only third person that locks your camera movement

[reef ibex]

THAT'S SO DUMB WTFFFFFF

[primal shoal]

am i cooked

25 wins but 1 loss

only 96% winrate

😡

[neon galleon]

It probably happens cause instead of going from first person to third person you just stay in third person, so the game doesn’t get the check to let you turn your camera

[reef ibex]

Is there any way to possibly report this as a bug to Blizzard at all

Or do I just gotta hope & pray that these devs notice this

[neon galleon]

If you go to the website that they use to show patch notes there should be something you can click/press to head to bug report

[naive lantern]

trying to get to all stars by OTP'ing Orisa, so any tips on how to deal with Sigma?

maybe it's a skill issue on my part but i'm struggling a bit against him

[fallow socket]

bro? 18 min queue?

LOL

[neon galleon]

Get in his face, do not allow him to keep space between the 2 of you, when able save your fortifies for his rock and ult, do not bother trying to spin it. If you think he might ult soon it can be a good idea to save javelin to save your team, Sigma is also the one matchup where I think it will be optimal not to get deflect on spin so that he can’t suck up anything you send up, in general his suck can be a good time to start spin as he can’t cancel out of it.

[naive lantern]

any tips for specific powers to pick against him? i'm usually running either fortify/survival or ult/ap build (depends on enemy team comp and tank choice), but i still haven't figured out the optimal way to deal with him

perhaps i can try weapon power overheat build

[neon galleon]

In general with Orisa I mainly get just enough survival stuff so that I don’t immediately die without my options so that I can focus the rest on damage to allow myself to better pressure the enemy team, Hooves of Steel and Martian Mender work well together since Mender takes into account the shield health you got from hooves

You gotta put them up against the wall and make them realize that you are the god damn wall

[naive lantern]

that's why i like playing stadium orisa more than any other tank tbh

i am an immovable object

(unless i get into an unstoppable force, which is zarya)

[acoustic kiln]

the benefits of peaking plat 5 in comp

i usually dont have to waiter longer than 10 minutes

i think my mmr is silver 1

[neon galleon]

Eh, even with how strong Zarya can make her beam you still have enough tools to overcome her

[naive lantern]

when i'm against zarya my strategy is "put everything into hp and shields and pray you could survive long enough to deal with her"

but it's also not that hard of a counter so i can roll with it

[lunar veldt]

does zen orb count as negativ effect?

[maiden scarab]

depends if it can be cleansed or not

[lunar veldt]

hate it as rein

[neon galleon]

It can be cleansed off

But that effect would only kick in on Discord orb if the conditions to get it off are actually met, which it would almost immediately come off anyway

Cause the only way Discord orb leaves on its own is if the Zen dies or he loses los on you for too long

[lunar veldt]

It's truly annoying when you're playing rein, chased by orisa and reaper, freja empties her mag into you a billion times and a zen orb is constantly on you

[ornate hedge]

play d.va join the anti projectile club

[stark cloud]

Sigma rock build is so fun man

Finally i can play tank

[hard marsh]

frfrfr

[hearty lodge]

Nah at that point quit the game, you just werent fit for the role 😂

[proven knot]

wow guys that kirko clone perk + tp is kinda bs

[acoustic kiln]

climbing through the ranks by just healbotting on mercy

if all goes well i think i could hit all star this season

im elite 2 rn

[proven knot]

@forest coral You been able to deal with that kiri build?

I actually think I figured out how to deal with it but it's hard

[neon galleon]

I mean…I imagine in terms of dps Reaper and Cass can turn the clone into a double edged sword for Kiri by using it to fuel their elimination based powers, JQ could also use it to get Shout back faster, and I suppose Zen could use the clone to get armor from that one item quicker

[proven knot]

Nah it kills too quickly

No shot you're pulling that off

The real solution is to pressure Kiriko before she can even engage

easier said than done ofc

not every character can even do it

Oh other than that

You're just going to have to take advantage of the fact that Kiri tping in and flanking inherently means the enemy frontline is at a resource deficit. So push it hard and force clone to heal instead of shooting

[neon galleon]

I’ve done it before, besides how much health does the clone even have?

[proven knot]

idk

[hearty lodge]

i legit just ignore kiriko

[proven knot]

sounds like someone was missing shots tho

or didnt build weapon power

[neon galleon]

No I’m just genuinely curious cause Reaper and Cassidy have some of the higher damage in one shot for dps in Stadium, so how much would they actually need to build up WP to just outright one shot the clone

[proven knot]

Hmm

Good question

Reaper would have to deal with potential fall off/spread so no real answer

But Cass

That's worth exploring

[neon galleon]

I mean depending on how the reaper is playing he might not have to worry too much about that cause he could already be close enough to the clone if he is trying to guard his supports

[proven knot]

Issue with that is at that point

Kiriko doesn't even need to tp in. She's creating value doing nothing.

Reaper is doing nothing

Essentially a 4v5 at that point

As for Cass

Got range on his side

[neon galleon]

Meh, think that will ultimately depend on how close both teams end up getting into the fight itself, the more Brawly both sides are, the easier it is for Reaper to guard his supports while still participating in the fight, even then the specific Reaper player’s form of guarding could also involve occasionally looking back at the supports and having his teleport ready for if someone tries to jump them, like I said depends on their playstyle how much range actually affects trying to kill the clone

plus I think max damage reaper does more damage than Cass headshot so he technically would output more damage in an optimal test

[hybrid gust]

I LOVE TRYING TO PLAY DEATH STEP REAPER INTO DVA JUNK KIRI ZEN

NEVER DO DEATHSTEP REAPER

IT SUCKS

[neon galleon]

……pretty sure 99% of players already knew that-

Also why would you even try to play it against that specific comp let alone in general-

[stone walrus]

can anyone help me get to all star for the mercy skin 🙏 🙏 🙏 im a pretty decent ashe player at elite 2

[hushed jewel]

My final round just reset somehow

[fallow socket]

its so funny how the devs wrote they had to "be cautious bcs the build can snowball quickly" when buffing the build in 6 different areas

and its still buns

[forest coral]

i havent had any issues with it since the nerf

is it not kinda a throw after they chopped off the duration?

it was absolutely oppressive before and i was always torn if it was worth it to just try to kill the kiri as dva or genji but like i feel like i get more value just killing everyone else while their healer is off flanking atp

also i genuinely cant tell if it's the hero or the elo atp

like it is absolutely not normally for a dva amateur to be doing this consistently right

closest person to me in cash in the lobby was enemy moira with like 60k is dva the hidden best stadium tank

no bc the enemy tank was a higher rank than me too so i dont think it's even an elo issue

[fallow socket]

2.5s is still plenty of time to catch an idling zen or ashe

[fallow socket]

lowkey

nobody gives me trouble except dva bcs she can actually make stuff happen

[forest coral]

i think if the zen or ashe in question are in a position to be punished for that they weren't going to do much anyways

[forest coral]

like damn is there another hero that can just absolutely nuke a fight like this

[fallow socket]

Holy punch

[forest coral]

lowkey really hope meka punch builds dont become popular or discovered

i got a feeling as soon as that happens they're giving her the queen treatment and having elims take away 1-2 seconds from booster cd instead of fully reseting it

[proven knot]

idk i lost my first game of the season to it. but also my team wasnt great

idk

[hearty lodge]

40 min queue

still waiting...

maybe blizzard forgot about us being in queue 🥺

[fallow socket]

rank?

[hearty lodge]

pro 1

legend 3 last season

1 hr 20 mins...

god has forsaken us!

https://tenor.com/view/noooo-no-no-emote-emote-nooo-emote-gif-23071619

[primal shoal]

13 minute queue

[primal shoal]

do you live on mars or why is it so long???

so you do live on mars

i guess its 1 hour queue or 100000 ping

[primal shoal]

10 minute queue just to get a braindead genji who is racist

he said he was throwing but i didnt notice any change in his gameplay

im truly amazed how someone can be so bad

[errant scarab]

dead ass game

oh lmao everyone else having queue problems too

[echo valley]

Blaming the Lucio who has 5000 more healing than the Ana is insane 😭. She had 600 healing to his 5600

[inland harness]

i like going reinessance and crepuscular on mercy, can i take reinessance first power or should i take threads of fate to have a bigger impact and better cash

[fallow socket]

i think threads of fate gives way too much money and value round one that it’d be trolling to not pick it as first power.

the renaissance and crepuscular synergy is very real but i lwk think its a little overrated, rez afterall is only value when shit is kind of falling apart for your team. I usually take threads > circle > renaissance, but lately I dont even take renaissance and just opt for something like distortion/battle medic/glass extra full or even serenity

[ornate hedge]

petition to remove kiriko clone!!!

[neon galleon]

They already hotfixed it to cut the duration in half and said that they are working on further ways to balance it

[ornate hedge]

the duration isnt even the problem its that damn aimbot

[torn phoenix]

why does everyone afk in map/ban phase

like 6 people max even vote for a map

[neon galleon]

Which it only utilizes if no ally in its los needs health, which if it’s a dive Kiri will usually be her

[neon galleon]

plus it’s possible that someone like Cass or Reaper could one shot the clone but that needs testing

[forest coral]

idk this is how my season has been going despite playing against like 2 or 3 shadow clone kiris and i feel like this is kinda insane no ??

maybe my meka punch focused build just does well against shadow clones bc normally when heroes put resources into killing clone it's just a waste of resources

but i get my booster reset so i just get to keep going

[proven knot]

oh

ya reset would make a difference

i think my build does well against it too

but i think that was my first time even fighting the tp anywhere kiri thing on tank

[neon galleon]

I’ve said it before, any player that has a reset on elimination perk can turn clone into a double-edged sword

[verbal lake]

Do you think if more heroes get reset on elimination perks, will the clone build be balanced?

[neon galleon]

It depends on the hero, cause Reaper and Cass are probably the best at outright killing the clone but JQ is the best at keeping the clone from actually dealing damage due to how easily she can spread wounds which will cause the clone to start healing instead.

Problem is if the wrong hero focuses too much on killing the clone you could end up just giving the Kiri more value

[quick mulch]

i’m so unmotivated to play stadium this season. i’m trying my hardest to improve but legit nothing is working. i tried queueing alone and with other people yet i still lose. (i main support) i look up builds and try those along with making my own but legit nothing is working

[ornate hedge]

let me introduce you to juno dps

https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/2fa329f0-ae9b-4721-8369-c47584fffb5f

this build is so good and you're almost unkillable

plus its fun

[quick mulch]

anytime i play dps juno i feel the need to heal my team bc they’re dying ;-;

def will have to save that build tho, thank you

[ornate hedge]

dont heal

u can 1v5

[quick mulch]

i’m honestly to the point where i don’t even want to play stadium anymore so i don’t make other people lose along with me and have them be mad at me

last season i had ZERO struggle like this

[ornate hedge]

you cant lose unless ur team is trash with this

[quick mulch]

next time i feel like going back to hell (stadium), i’ll have to try it

[paper snow]

Does anyone have a build to make sure my mental health dmg doesn't one shot me

[quick mulch]

thanks for the build suggestion tho! it’ll help

[paper snow]

Or a way to counter other than drugs or alcohol

[ornate hedge]

if you follow the instructions rey gave it will definately become your new juno main build

and practice with it to make yourself a sky demon

[quick mulch]

find ways to enjoy life, even as small as they may be.

[quick mulch]

aye aye captain 🫡

[paper snow]

What if I can't

What if tears are all I can afford

[quick mulch]

are you actually allowing yourself to feel happy?

[paper snow]

I try

[quick mulch]

i’ll dm you so we don’t take up this channel

[paper snow]

I need the life rank up... Hard stuck in silver sadness

Trying to get to gold greatness

On a side note does anyone have a funny Mei build

[ornate hedge]

do you hate rein and orisa

i have the perfect mei build in mind

[paper snow]

Nah I need the zarys Mei build

[ornate hedge]

for zarya

[paper snow]

Zara is just annoying

[ornate hedge]

it could work

[paper snow]

Send code

[ornate hedge]

i have to make it in a match rn

abt to win

[paper snow]

Oki

[ornate hedge]

oh its a pre built one

its chilling climatologist but i dont like going coulder first

iceberg then cryclone THEN coulder

[vagrant cove]

Question For Stadium:

Has anyone done any 'Punishing' Type of Builds? Like i havent seen a whole lot of people use El-Sa'ka Supressor (Crits give 30% heal reduction), Weapon Jammer (Wpn Dmg negates 10% atk spd and gives you 10% atk spd), Liquid Nitrogen (Ability Dmg removes 20% Movespd) and Cybervenom (Ability Dmg gives 30% Heal reduction).

I've done Some great lategame builds with these especially on JQ with Gracie and i have Also done Some on Ana and Reaper that worked well too. But point is, has anyone else done Some of these builds or are you guys just to focused on maxing your your weapon damage or ability damage to care?

[proven knot]

are you talking about like

a full “punishment” build

or just taking 1 or 2 of those items

[vagrant cove]

Yes 👍

[proven knot]

yeah full punishment build seems jank but using some of them if your build can fit it is good

[mint geyser]

Were all having ridiculous queue times right? I was hoping it was just a last night thing but these "5 min" queues that last 20minutes are still going for me. People lose interest in this season of stadium?

[proven knot]

support qs are long

[vagrant cove]

I've made work on them on JQ and Reaper, they work really well, and Mei if you get snowball. Plus if you get a reaper on your team you can just fully slow their team by like 90+%

[proven knot]

oh ya

does the slowing one show like a status symbol that the target is slowed?

[ornate hedge]

green feet

purple*

[mint geyser]

Yea. I just how they lie to me and say 3-5minutes and its always 4x that.

Then when someone leaves before match starts, your queue starts all over

[proven knot]

ok ill see if i can make room for the slow one then on one of my builds. need to see if it applies to some powers i choose that do ability damage for calcs but dont always trigger effects

kinda want to run lava on dva but its always been mid

but if it triggers other effects then maybe

[vagrant cove]

Pretty sure you can pair that with -20% m-spd + 30% heal reduct

And with slam too

[proven knot]

wonder if slam triggers it

[vagrant cove]

I'll test

[proven knot]

kinda doubt but i never tested it. my old slam build was meka punch + slam

and i just built armor for scalings

but id need to change that now

[vagrant cove]

Slam doesn't trigger

[proven knot]

makes sense

ok not a slam build then

[proven knot]

what about lava and while we’re at it

the defense matrix power that automatically shoots rockets

lava didn’t trigger stuff before

[ornate hedge]

the lava from d.va doesnt trigger it

but the boosters do

[proven knot]

ok lava still doesnt

so dm rockets prob dont either

[vagrant cove]

But the normal boosters proc it

And lava

[proven knot]

you tested lava?

[vagrant cove]

Yea

Lava triggers the head reduct

[proven knot]

ok they fixed lava

thats good

[vagrant cove]

Dunno about slow

It triggers slow to!!

[proven knot]

makes sense

just last season when i tested lava

it was bugged

it didnt trigger effects and didnt get buffed by ap

[acoustic kiln]

i pray to have a dps juno on my team

with my mercy build i could keep my entire team healed up if they dont have shite positioning

[ornate hedge]

i was 2 stacking with my friend whole of yesterday he was on mercy i was on juno and he would just hard pocket me

lets say we got alot of comments

🤣

[proven knot]

did u win

[ornate hedge]

every game

till my other friend joined and it went downhill

hes new tho so i dont hold him accountable

[proven knot]

ya i can see why your teammates didnt like that lol

[ornate hedge]

no like the enemy team

i should’ve specified

our team was rooting us on most of them time

others didnt say anything

[acoustic kiln]

idk if i just havent played normal matches in a while but

stadium gives so much more exp than the other gamemodes

[ornate hedge]

noticed that too

[proven knot]

idk

stadium matches are way longer

oh ya stadium also doesnt give you hero levels

[acoustic kiln]

i get like 4k exp per match if i dont get any challenges done

[acoustic kiln]

it counts for time and wins though 🔥

those two give the most anyways

[proven knot]

oh it does?

[proven knot]

once you get high enough in level

you just straight up do not progress unless you are leveling up all of them

think i had almost 20 hours in stadium on dva without moving up a single level

[acoustic kiln]

it is very slow for my level 139 mercy but im making it work

[ornate hedge]

i got to level 92 already by only playing dva the last 2 days

[proven knot]

from what level

[ornate hedge]

i think 22

i bought the widow and sigma pack on release saw they nerfed meka and got off

[proven knot]

i dont see how thats possible but also i think levels have exponential scaling

[vagrant cove]

I just found out something truely nasty you can do with zen 😂

Get the thing where you deal damage with Discord and apply Discord on enemies during ult.

Then just get the thing that makes them slow when taking ability damage and they can't escape getting Discorded

[proven knot]

that triggers it???

[vagrant cove]

Plus you can get phantasmic flux to gain overhealth from it

[vagrant cove]

Yeah 😂

You can't spam it though

There's like a 2-3 second delay before you can re-enable Discord DOT on an enemy

Smart devs

Honestly, it would work so well with a reaper ultimative

Wait

[neon galleon]

Does it trigger on the discord explosion?

[vagrant cove]

I gotta test smt

[vagrant cove]

No? That's only on crits

You can't shoot while ulting

[neon galleon]

The discord explosion is ability damage

[vagrant cove]

I'll check

Yes it does LMAO

zen is BUSTED

Slowing them, and giving 60% Heal reduct on Crits is CRAZY

[neon galleon]

I don’t think those stack

[proven knot]

thats insane i wouldve assumed it didnt. zens abilities usually dont trigger item effects despite the descriptions

[neon galleon]

The ability heal reduction would probably be better for Zen though since the explosion could spread it to anyone near the original target

[vagrant cove]

There's Some that doesn't trigger for zen. Like mark of kitsune

[neon galleon]

Probably because of how the orbs work

[proven knot]

its just for balancing

not all of the effects require damage

[vagrant cove]

And it even triggers the heal reduct from them 😩

And slow

[proven knot]

but still dont trigger

[frigid osprey]

Can someone hook me up with a WP genji build?

[proven knot]

honestly there needs to be like, a guide or smthn for how stadium powers/items function. there’s a lot of stuff that doesn’t trigger even though it should and some surprising ones that do

game mode kinda forces you to do a lot of independent testing if you’re making your own builds

[neon galleon]

Like how Mercy beam can’t build up superflexor

[proven knot]

yeah stuff like that

also it’s hard to say how much of it is bugged

and how much is game design

[vagrant cove]

Yeah, still fun though

[proven knot]

since nothing is mentioned

[vagrant cove]

But zen is gonna be completly busted with this build lmao

[proven knot]

for instance dva used to be one of 2 characters that weapon damage didnt buff melee for

but that was intentional

oh zen is alr busted

[vagrant cove]

Even the Kick build is busted Lmao

[proven knot]

its actually a good power

[vagrant cove]

Fr 😂

I thought it was useless at the start but hell no 😭

[proven knot]

ya i ignored it day 1

but then i realized you can just use it as a mobility cooldown if you really want to

[vagrant cove]

It's suprisingly good for shutting down rein

[ornate hedge]

its super annoying its the one thing that has been able to stop me from remeching

[vagrant cove]

I feel like you could do an all fly comp already not gonna lie, cause there's already forever flight freja, and you can easily fly with sigma, reaper as well(?), and then ofc mercy juno Who can also infinite flu

[echo valley]

Hwve you seen melee lucio?

Aka A-Train

[vagrant cove]

Yeah, hoping to do some fun team builds tommorow w/ people in #lfg-console-stadium

Melee would be one

Probably gonna be Rein, Reaper, Junkrat, Zen, Lucio

Since they have the best melee stuff

JQ works too

[vagrant cove]

Imagine if you go headshot moira, the enemy will just have 30% heal reduction on them constantly

[proven knot]

what are you thinking

Also Moira can’t headshot (?)

[vagrant cove]

With that one power she can

[proven knot]

She has a power

Ok

[vagrant cove]

Gives 30% life steal 30% move speed and 30 more fuel regain when headshotting

[proven knot]

How generous are the headshots

[ornate hedge]

its buggy but easier if u aim above their head a bit

[vagrant cove]

Overhealth Comp (tank comp?)
Punishing Comp (Heal reduction/move speed reduction)
Melee Comp
Heal Comp
Fly Comp

And so on

[vagrant cove]

🤷‍♂️

[ornate hedge]

the heal and speed reduction isnt very good on anyone but moira and it doesnt stack from person to person

[proven knot]

For Dva I think she has by far the best consistency with heal reduc on headshots

[vagrant cove]

Or reaper

[proven knot]

I’m gonna be testing the slowing one with Zen today

Does Reaper have to make any big sacrifices to choose it?

[vagrant cove]

Not really?

[proven knot]

Because with Dva. I kinda give up nothing

[ornate hedge]

it only procs for like 3 seconds since thats how long the thing that does 50 dmg per second lasts

it doesnt work for his base orb has to be with the power

that does dmg

[proven knot]

Yeah I know. But I’m playing with a Dva and they’re going to chase my discords

And yeah I’m choosing the power

[ornate hedge]

👍

[vagrant cove]

Honestly reaper is the best for the move speed reduction cause he can get +50% effectiveness with it

So that's +10% more move speed gone

Then fade through them for another 45%

So that's 30+45% move speed reduction

(I can't do math)

[ornate hedge]

wydm how does he apply speed reduction

his abilities dont do dmg

ur talking abt liq nitrogen right

[vagrant cove]

Get the spinny thing

[proven knot]

Oh and the other thing about Zen speed reduc is it also makes it so enemies take longer to retreat to cover when they’re discorded so I’m got high hopes for it being good here

[vagrant cove]

Does the heal reduct stack on the wpn power and AP upgrades?

Like does it become 60%

[proven knot]

Highly highly doubt

[vagrant cove]

If it does 😩

[proven knot]

Like

Certainly no shot it does

[ornate hedge]

pretty sure they can only have 1 instance of each debuff

[vagrant cove]

Anyways, im going to bed cuz it's 3 am. Cya

[proven knot]

that would be such bad game design

[ornate hedge]

so nothing stacks

[proven knot]

Gnight

Does suzu cleanse speed reduc?

[ornate hedge]

i think so

its really only good with moira orb which almost reapplies it so no reason wo waste suzu on it anyways

and it lasts 2 seconds

[proven knot]

Yeah I’m just curious about how its coded

Because if suzu cleanses it

that means its coded in as a status condition

and almost certainly can’t stack

[ornate hedge]

probably

[vagrant cove]

Ps before i sleep and forget. Cassidy can get his flashback down to 2 seconds, from 12 seconds. Actually insane

[neon galleon]

Unfortunately it’s technically not a headshot when it comes to damage cause I didn’t really notice a difference with the headshot item

[ornate hedge]

im pretty sure the moira power allows el saka to work on her

unless they changed it

[neon galleon]

If I remember correctly from an earlier convo the discord orb explosion also triggers it

[ornate hedge]

ima test it

okay so they both do still proc it

and while we're on the topic with stinger juno's mediblaster can proc cybervenom

soliders field with the back off power also procs both

busan blaster also procs both

[echo valley]

Yea the deadeye/flash build is lethal

You can end up popping ult 3-4 times in 1 round

How is it possible for a genji to finish a 3 minute match with 54 damage

[hybrid gust]

genjis best build is iaido strike right?

[ornate hedge]

melee with iaido yea

[hybrid gust]

yeah

shits crazy

[hybrid gust]

gloomgauntlet carries the build

[ornate hedge]

tbf it brings every melee build together

[hybrid gust]

suprised it didnt get nerfed with how stupid strong it is

theyll probs remove the movement speed

[ornate hedge]

they nerfed almost everyone with a power connected to melee tho

genjis power got nerfed from % to flat 15 melee dmg

dva meka punch got nerfed from 75% melee dmg to 50% melee attack speed??????

[echo valley]

I just got an ace as cass

And we still lost the game

[hybrid gust]

? which power?

[echo valley]

These stadium players dont know their own counters

[ornate hedge]

hold on lemme find it

[echo valley]

Mei trying to primary into a junkrat and soldier as they keep backing away from her

[echo valley]

Hidden blade

[ornate hedge]

yea

[echo valley]

The power of noon

[hybrid gust]

forgot that even gave melee %

[ornate hedge]

it was 50% melee dmg and lifesteal

[hybrid gust]

quick question does the blade projectile also hit if the original blade hits

[ornate hedge]

now its 60% lifesteal and 15 melee dmg

[hybrid gust]

idk havent tested it

[ornate hedge]

yea

[hybrid gust]

dayum

yeah i usually take that second and hidden 3rd

[echo valley]

Reviewing this clip, landing three hits and a flash got me from 45 to 100 in 4ish seconds

[hybrid gust]

its only qm dmg

[ornate hedge]

well his only other melee is blade and it scales for that too

[hybrid gust]

no

it says quick melee dmg

so unless theres some property to that, that applies to dragon blade then

[ornate hedge]

if u hover over it it has dragon blade and melee in brackets

wait

ur talking about to power

im talking abt gloom

mb

[hybrid gust]

lul

[hybrid gust]

this genji build is crazyyy

just been winning non stop

[hybrid gust]

went from bronze today to just hitting elite

think i lost like twice

[nocturne sandal]

rn imo th bst stdm bld fo sldr76 b th bio hllin bld w/ wpn spd nd a ltl svivr itms lk idk the amr nd shld conv itms ig, bcz tbh nd imo rn tctl vsr nd chn gn blds b trsh af imo, bio hlln bscil mks u int a btr Lco tht dnt b spd bsting evry whr

[main jungle]

Eh, bio field is good but far from the best build since you can just shoot things and then they die with the other ones

[fallow socket]

Just combine double helix with tac lol

Tommygun, kitsune, more ability power. Helix somebody and then auto aim the kitsune and tommygun boosted bullets

[hoary slate]

who wanna q w me

[crystal cairn]

is stadium free to play

[vapid stone]

yes

[neon galleon]

Dva mech melee is also affected by WP now

[ornate hedge]

you're kidding

no way

thank you blizzard

[frozen ginkgo]

"Right now, in my opinion, the best Stadium build for Soldier: 76 is the Biotic Healing build with weapon speed and a little survivability—like, I don’t know, the armor and shield conversion items, I guess. Because to be honest, and in my opinion, Tactical Visor and Chaingun builds are trash right now. The Biotic Healing basically turns you into a better Lúcio that doesn’t need to be speed-boosting everywhere."

[proven knot]

still a nerf imo

because now it’s not nearly as good on builds that don’t have wp

oh 100% a nerf for console too if anyone values that

[hearty lodge]

we've lost this one to the brain rot... may their writting skills rest in peace... 🙏

[hearty lodge]

this one has seen the dark side and came back, thank you translator... 🙏

[void pawn]

helppppp theres a build crashing my game idk who's responsible

[proven knot]

@forest coral nah im back to using meka punch. double missiles is cringe & wide dm is kind of just whatever

punch cooks tho

[proven knot]

what char

what items

I can probably tell you what it is

[echo valley]

Orisa is the most annoying stadium tank

Want to ult? Eat a javelin. Want to ult? Deflect Spear. Want to ult or do any damage? Fortify regen.

Had a 12 minute round because neither orisa wanted to die

[vagrant cove]

Probably JQ Gracie

It bugs out so much when using the charge power

[echo valley]

Cresp mercy

[proven knot]

i made a stadium build that can crash training room in console

[vagrant cove]

Do tell

[forest coral]

still gives you burst and the booster resets gives you so much damn momentum on your dives

[proven knot]

i have no idea what triggers it but its dva with legendary loadout, meka punch, double missiles and with three tap tommygun, mark of the kitsune, and gloom gauntlet. I think I might’ve had heal reduc on it too.

[vagrant cove]

Crit heal or ability heal reduct?

[proven knot]

crit heal

It also doesn’t trigger immediately

the crash

So I really have no idea but it’s definitely something in the build or some action I do

[echo valley]

No

It was mercy lucio

And lucio kiri

[forest coral]

yeah lucio is just super duper busted

[exotic pilot]

Have you guys discovered the zen armour build yet it’s so busted

Straight up unbeatable you ult every other second

Have like over 1k effective health

Have self healing and reduced dmg taken

[acoustic kiln]

ive seen zenyattas building survivability

it is quite crazy when done right

[candid lotus]

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[ornate hedge]

you cannot be real

[steep summit]

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[proven knot]

guess who won this game

[fallow socket]

theyre only muted

thjats crazy lol

[frozen ginkgo]

Apparently what they posted wasnt dumb enough to be banned

[forest lynx]

Can we delete Coulder? Please?

Just as a power

[zinc root]

give cassidy the lock-on homing grenade back as a power

[acoustic kiln]

y u hate the cold

[forest lynx]

It's a bullshit power that has the same amount of interaction as hog hook

[acoustic kiln]

hasnt been that bad in my experiences

[forest lynx]

It used to be worse before it's nerfs but honestly it doesn't belong in the game

At all

You could straight up be bullied out of position and your team can't do anything to mitigate it

[hybrid gust]

the snowball mei power?

yeah 100% agree

unironically

with no rage

it is horrendous for the gamemode

[forest lynx]

It is such a bullshit power

I have to shout in order to mitigate the damage and sometimes it's not enough because the rest of the enemy hones in on the couldered enemy

Without fail

I would love to replace it with a hurl of tinier snowballs

That orbit Mei

That's cute