stadium-discussion

[regal mango]

limp dick cdr

i still think if ur not running stinger u need cosmic coolant but i usually end up taking medicinal 3rd

im thinking about torpedo glide 4th??

with full items

somewh

how is moira this patch

[acoustic kiln]

i tried to go weapon power with juno

my aim IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH for that

[regal mango]

i think her best build (dont tell wolfie i said this) is the hybrid juno build with stinger and 3 tap tommy gun

honestly could be a good tgateway build to play with as u improfe ur aim

torpedos are still strong and ur rewarded heavily just for hitting a couple shots

just gotta keep procing sheen 3 tap

[acoustic kiln]

alright time to try out straight weapon power moira

(if it wasnt obvious i like going all in on one stat)

[regal mango]

lol i love a good focused build but i love covering other bases efficiently

0-4-2 is usually my juno build

[hearty lodge]

You can play a "weapon power" style of game with Juno without going for weapon power

https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/2fa329f0-ae9b-4721-8369-c47584fffb5f

[regal mango]

this guy and his self plug

[hearty lodge]

bro, i wouldnt be self plugging if someone else had made the build

i dont see the issue with sharing a good build to someone who's not having success on the same type of gameplay with Juno because they built unoptimally

Also, i only share builds i KNOW work. And usually if thats the case im interested enough to review every detail on every round and try it out myself, which means i end up making a build for it

[hearty lodge]

Like, this does not specify enough info to recreate the build you are suggesting

[acoustic kiln]

i wanted to use weapon power though

[hearty lodge]

right, but you dont have aim you mentioned...

(im on the same boat lmao)

and this build is doing the exact same thing, but you only have to hit 1 bullet, not the whole burst

literally 1 bullet, will heal or damage for around 50 after round 3

if you had good aim, i would recommend an Ana crit build

i faced one earlier today and it was nuts

huh

how weird

"Equivalent Exchange" the Mercy Power that gives you 3 charges of resurrect is gone

did it have a bug?

[regal mango]

she didnt ask lol

[hearty lodge]

fair enough

[regal mango]

btw i justr hit pro

[hearty lodge]

lets not hate each other shall we?

[regal mango]

im barely getting any points @-@

[hearty lodge]

nice!

congratz

[regal mango]

does it ever get higher

[hearty lodge]

welcome to Stadium lmao

[flat elm]

once you hit pro the gains become more like normal comp gains

[regal mango]

how come i got so damn many going from elite to pro

feels low even then >->

arent they increasing them soon

[flat elm]

the higher the rank the less you gain, it's like a hard change in stadium i think

like in first 2 ranks you cant even lose rank

then in elite you still gain a ton

[regal mango]

rip dopamine feedback :(

[acoustic kiln]

i managed to turn it into a hybrid build somehow

[hidden atlas]

yesterday i tried a reaper build, it was so much fun, full attack speed, anyone else tried it?

[hearty lodge]

30 mins waiting to play support...

[hearty lodge]

i cant play reaper to save my life

i dont know if its because im too stupid, or not stupid enough

cause it doesnt seem that hard to "W+Left click" but then i do it and it doesnt work lmao

[flat elm]

think the mode just doesnt have a lot of players sadly

[hearty lodge]

36 mins

but i found a match!

[cursive nymph]

Your gaining less because you're reaching your 'correct rank'

The gamemode is calibrating your stadium mmr to the level you need to be at

So in a lower rank, the system thinks a win means your way better than that rank

But tbh I think the fresh hold for each rank in stadium is alot lower than normal com9

Comp

I mean the rookie-Novice is pretty much the equivalent to bronze 5 in the way you won't ever loose anything for losing

[hearty lodge]

bro... 30 mins match only to have a reinhardt who suicides himself every single time

[cursive nymph]

What region are you

[acoustic kiln]

first game on this build i got mvp

what kind of crack did you put into this

soon as i got cybervenom the enemy tank just blew up

[hearty lodge]

south america

[hearty lodge]

told ya

[regal mango]

i feel like this would be correct if i didnt have a 74% wr :l

[acoustic kiln]

oh god i just imagined a tank/lifesteal symmetra build completely focused on her beam

[regal mango]

i would love that

cant wait til she gets atted

added

[acoustic kiln]

im gonna make people HATE symmetra when she gets added

just pure turret mayhem

[cursive nymph]

Does that not just

Prove my point

Your winning lots

So your getting lots of $

%

But it's reducing now

Because your getting closer

[regal mango]

im still crushing though @.@

idk ive only had tow games bc queues are 8 yrs

[flat elm]

im not 100% sure its like that, bc i think they said you'll be gaining less in stadium after passing rank boundaries

if it were only due to mmr, the difference wouldnt be seen at e.g. elite to pro boundary

you might have seen it at like elite 1

or pro 4

but from what ive seen its always on boundary

[cursive nymph]

This is also true

You can it in game

Can't remember how to open the page but it's in the subtext on the stadium page

[flat elm]

yea i cant remember the details

[regal mango]

my tank is rookie

wat

[flat elm]

theyre prob queued with someone higher

[regal mango]

enemy meryc just added me to tell me shes glad i lost and that she hoeps i lose move

only plays mercy

silver

pro 4 in stadium

wtaf

are mercy mains

[acoustic kiln]

elite lobby

and i get a genji that has NEVER played the gamemode before

and he gets diffed HARD cuz the other genji has a mercy pocket and bro didnt buy any items

[ember kettle]

To be fair. Im silver most in normal comp butbpro+ in stadium. 2 different skillsets. Im genuinely better 10 fold in stadium due to 3rd person. Then again. Ive not done normal comp since playing rivals. Im prob just better in general.

Mercy kittens being carriesld is nothing new though

Its partly why bans hard target her bc 910 mercy players dont deserve their rank

[void pawn]

i think the reason i have a high wr in stadium is just because im good at smaller maps generally

ive always hated modes like payload and hybrid for that reason

[void pawn]

HOW MANY TIMES ARE THEY GOING TO NERF JUNO AND ITS STILL NOT ENOUGH

its only one loss but brother i feel like im playing against a fortified tank because she has like 2000 hp with 200 dmg missiles on two charges

i waited 16 minutes for this 😭

[ember kettle]

They nerfed her once

ANd thats literally all she needs

[ember kettle]

Just get better and dont stand in the open

Anyone can just kill you if you stand in the open. Not just Juno.

[void pawn]

obviously

but the thing is im going behind walls but she just waltz into our team and does it anyways

its pretty bad if you dont have a hitscan atleast

[ember kettle]

Shes. Just not a problem

BRO THESE DPS PLAYERS DONT HAVE FINGERS

HOW AM I SUPPOSE TO GET OUT OF NOVICE TANK WITH THIS

IM hard carrying these rounds its insane.

round 5 cybervenom on zarya just for their aggressive ass rein and kiri

[void pawn]

shes a problem to me as a lucio player because i cant guarantee my team will play hitscan

i cant exactly just run into her either since shes a flying hero

[ember kettle]

Dont need to be hitscan.
Just need to have good aim.

🤝

[void pawn]

true

BUT SHE DOESNTD IE

aw'p;idhwap;ihdwa]#d

depresso espresso

its not often anyways idk why im complaining

[tropic wing]

does ability power increase moiras orbs healing or just dmg?

[ember kettle]

It increase her orb and ults damage and healing

Because they are abilities

[tropic wing]

ty

[ember kettle]

Her mist and auto aim tendril gauntlets are weapon power.

[dense bone]

question
does weapon power affect quick melee damage, or is it specifically quick melee modifiers?

also does attack speed affect quick melee speed?

basically, what does quick melee get affected by?

[ember kettle]

https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/4f269358-30b9-4df9-9cf7-a3caef08d802 @tropic wing Im not good at guides so its work in progress for my moira

With a typical 3 blues / 3 purple split. If you get late enough to afford more purples you can start to remove some things. But this gives good use out of both her orbs and her beams.

[ember kettle]

All melee are considered weapons

But not all weapons are considered melee

And dont get cofused by junker axe, its melee but its technicaly an ability so it wont scale with melee mods

[dense bone]

that
doesn't really help?
i'm talking about quick melee

[ember kettle]

Yes. Thats a weapon.

You are hitting them with your weapon

Are you not?

[dense bone]

i suppose?
i'm doing a meka punch build

[ember kettle]

... What.

That sounds... so innefective when you could just slam down in their faces

[dense bone]

slam doesn't actually work very well given the height limit they put on it

[ember kettle]

It does though. Lmao

[dense bone]

i've tried it and it feels too predictable, they all just get outta the way

is it a focal point or just like, an added bonus for a build?

[ember kettle]

https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/7061697b-5417-40d4-aa4b-135698832b46 Also by the looks of it.

The punch is in the build anyways

Snce the punch is a way to lifesteal and stay alive

[hybrid spear]

does the quick melee item that heals for 25 every hit count for reinhardts normal swing?

[ember kettle]

You just get tanky and fly at enemies slamming them in their face

[dense bone]

yeah, i've been using it with siphon gloves/gloomgauntlet
i'm just not sure what else to use, so i'll look at this

[ember kettle]

Yes

[dense bone]

no, just for quick-
wait really?

[dense bone]

was this tested or something?

[ember kettle]

His and Brigs quick melee IS their ONLY attack

[dense bone]

yeah, but there's a difference between quick melee and melee damage, no?

[ember kettle]

No

Not for Brig and Rein

[dense bone]

[ember kettle]

Its legit the same thing on both of them

They are the only 2 characters that function this way

Their primary fire and quick melee are one in the same.

[dense bone]

i need to know this now
i might go test it on training range after this match

[ember kettle]

https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/31688652-5fcc-46a8-9851-721a1898ca6b

Go hold W and M1 at people with lifesteal rein

[dense bone]

this doesn't run siphon gloves though

[ember kettle]

Doesnt need it. Siphon is horrible compared to the normal lifesteal items

it gets the purple gloves asap though

[flat elm]

if youre going dva i think you just gotta go burst builds

slam just makes you too vulnerable

and given dva isnt that good anyway you can only rly play to blow up someone and live

[ember kettle]

it doesnt make you too vul? Lmao

[flat elm]

to just slam down?? i think it does

using right after flight meaning ending flight on top of someone

and anim lock

[ember kettle]

Its legit. Her tankiest build

[dense bone]

i've been having fun building around meka punch
slam does feel too clunky/vulnerable
at least during boosters i can turn around

[flat elm]

ya but to play a playstyle where you just slam on someone isnt great imo

not that dva is strong anyway, but i think this makes it worse

imo only real thing you can do on dva rn is play high burst and just blow someone up

[ember kettle]

Its legit. Her strongest build

Thats literally not true in the slightest

[flat elm]

agree to disagree

[ember kettle]

Go full burst and see how fast you get bursted

[flat elm]

go full tank and you get bursted too

[dense bone]

who says?

[flat elm]

dva just gets bursted

so you may as well play to kill stuff

[ember kettle]

You dont get bursted on full tank though? Have you ever fucking played the character? No? THen shut the fuck up

She does plenty damage on the tank build

While being literally the most unkillable tank

Minus Junker Queen

[flat elm]

i dont think shes the most unkillable

and i dont think tank builds do dmg

and just chill man no need to get hostile

its just discussion :)

[dense bone]

why are you so hostile about this?

[ember kettle]

because its just out right spreading misinformation from someone whos not playe da single game of stadium

[flat elm]

i mean youve played stadium and giving your experience

ive played stadium and giving mine

[ember kettle]

Not above novice ranks if you think building d.va as anything but tank is the play lmao

[flat elm]

im like pro 2

[hybrid spear]

stuck in novice, cant relate

[ember kettle]

Dudes gonna go full squishy and get 1 shot by just the other tank. The enemy dps wont even have to look at you

[flat elm]

if you go full tank then youre just not a threat from my experience

[dense bone]

maybe the melee build falls apart higher up
alright, but it's working fine for me now

[hybrid spear]

for rein?

[dense bone]

dva

been building around meka punch

[hybrid spear]

really..?

[flat elm]

and anyway my main point was just against the slam perk

[hybrid spear]

she has a melee build?

[dense bone]

yesn't

[ember kettle]

You are a D.va You have one of the most threatening ults in the entire game.

[flat elm]

i'm gonna leave this as agree to disagree lmao

[ember kettle]

Your legit main and only play on dva is to survive, ult, survive, ult, survive, ult.

And thats coming from the d.va main since overwatch's original release.

Your missles do not matter. Not even toki slam and such matters. Its just an added bonus since you are going to be building so much armor and tank to survive to ult more

[dense bone]

i've been using siphon gloves, gloomgauntlet meka punch to booster in, slap people/dive targets and leave
the rest is customized based on matchup

[abstract hill]

A single Cassidy can just destroy any tank… as ANY tank you should never build into hp/armor/over shield

Same thing with reaper

[ember kettle]

Funny because theres only 2 tanks that dont.

If you build damage, they are just going to kill you faster

[abstract hill]

I build damage, life steal, or ap. But in my experience building hp has never been the play

Especially since 90% of people always run code breaker or almost every single team has a Cassidy or reaper

And unfortunately Cassidy ap build is dummy broken

[ember kettle]

Zarya and Junker are the only 2 tanks, that shouldnt be building for tank.
Because Junkers "tank" is her lifesteal and yelling being too angry to die.
Zarya's tank is a shield that scales on AP and the lifesteal she can get by building ability lifesteal for the mini vortexes she can spam

[abstract hill]

One of the more famous Reinhardt builds is life steal and weapon power lol, I rarely see dva bc nearly everything destroys her.

[ember kettle]

Well time to auto lose because we have reinhard vs junker queen being pocketed by a mercy

[ember kettle]

Lifesteal and Tank

[abstract hill]

Yep. It works wonders

[ember kettle]

Guess I need to get a round 3 cybervenom

[abstract hill]

It took me less than like 4 hours to hit pro after not playing for 4 months playing rein life steal weapon power and ap Zarya

[ember kettle]

Because fucking junkerqueen lucio mercy

If I can even afford it

At this point I dont know how he has the highest win rate. The only tank rein BEATS is dva

[abstract hill]

Shield regen, burn, and faster swings for majors

[ember kettle]

Woo I love being spawn camped by a lucio mercy junker queen

because we have a garbage tank that auto loses

The only good zarya build, beats rein.
Junker, beats Rein.
Orisa beats rein.

The only tank that literally cant do anything to Rein. Is D.va.

Like how is he the highest win rate tank

It makes No sense.

Im skipping mark of kitsune for this junker queen. I have to.

as long as they are on fire, they are constantly being antihealed

Nope. the anti heal doesnt matter

Junker QUeen truely has no counterplay

Its actually insane how this is allowed ot exist

[hybrid spear]

Im lowk fudging up a zarya rn

on rein

[ember kettle]

Shes got 8k damage atm

the rest of her team has 1k

We cant even 5v1 her, WITH me anti healing her permanently

[ember kettle]

She doesnt have volskaya vortex power

because ap zarya shreds rein and he cant stop her from doing so

Because the vortex ignores reins shield.

if we can some how win a round or 2

Which wont happen because junker has ult every 2 seconds from yelling

Such a fair and balnaced character

I so do love facing junker

[flat elm]

they just snowball hard if they get ahead early yea

do you play sup or dps

[ember kettle]

All 3

And she snowballs from round 1

Shes legit the strongest tank in the game uncontested

And NO one can beat her

SHE WENT 14-0

SHE WAS PERMANTLY ANTID

[flat elm]

idk whats strongest rn

[ember kettle]

I HAD CYBERVENOM ROUND FUCKING 2

[flat elm]

id put zar ori up there too

[ember kettle]

SHE WAS PERMANNT> FUCKING. ANTID

HOW THE FUCK IS SHE 14-0 THROUOGH PERMANENT ANTI

BLIZZARD

[flat elm]

also i never rly buy those antiheal stuff

but i mainly play dps

so i go for more dmg >>>>> reducing healing

[ember kettle]

I was on DPS

You get more damage from it.

In 2 ways

Anti heal needs massively buffed, or junker needs massively nerfed. Or both.

Because its fucking ridiculous that she can fucking do what she does

[flat elm]

ya but i also see it more as dmg is consistent but anti is not bc realistically you'll only get to hit few instances of ability dmg

unless you're ashe i guess

but i havent rly played ashe

on dps i just play cass genji

[ember kettle]

My DPS is ashe

I set them on fire, and as long as they are on fire, they are constantly being effected by cyber venom

because the fire dot is constantly refreshing the cybervenom debuff

She is by far, the most consistent applier of anti heal

[flat elm]

ya i think she is

but im not rly an antiheal believer

since i think dps just breaks through everything in that mode

[ember kettle]

That 30% less healing, is realistically 30% more damage from everything because they arent being healed as much.

Sadly.
That doesnt matter against Junker

Clearly.

[flat elm]

30% healing isnt 30% more dmg

[ember kettle]

Its an Aatrox situation. They basically have 200% lifesteal, whats a 30% anti gonna do

[flat elm]

because 30% less healing is only effective if as you say

the total amount of healing she receives is less than the dmg she takes

e.g. if you are doing 300dps to her but shes healing 500hps

30% will make that 500 to be 350

so no effect

[flat elm]

and ya this exactly

so i never build heal reduc

just more dmg

[ember kettle]

This only applies to Junker though.
Like its just.... Why the fuck is this allowed to exist

[sterile kelp]

I was going as much AP as possible and relying on orbs but it wwasnt working out for me. Now doing a build that relies on my biotic hand healing and it seems to be working out better. I dont feel like the loose link in my team now

[ember kettle]

Try the build I posted for it earlier.

https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/4f269358-30b9-4df9-9cf7-a3caef08d802

[sterile kelp]

Is it like a 50/50 orb/hand playstyle?

[ember kettle]

I gotta refine it on a per round basis

Its a true hybrid.

Chain Grasp helps alot on damage so you can throw healing orbs more

The weapon power + precarious potency + amaris antidote offers alot of healing by just giving them a gentle breeze

You still got ability power for orbs and ult and you have smart orbs to get more healing/damage per cast because they travel slower

[sterile kelp]

Alright, Ill try on mynext game!

[ember kettle]

The range boost on your grasp + orbs tendrils

The round 7 power im still debating on fully.

[foggy edge]

im not very good at tank but have to win 3 stadium games for a challenge, whos a good tank i can use and whats a good build?

[ember kettle]

YAY TIME TO AUTO LOSE AGIAN BECAUSE THEY HAVE JUNKER QUEEN VS OUR REIN

BECAUSE JUNKER QUEEN HAS NO COUNTERPLAYYYYY

[foggy edge]

so queen? alright.

thanks

[ember kettle]

Theres literally no fucking god damn counterplay to her

She just fucking yells and 1v5s

Its so fucking god damn stupid and shouldnt eixst

exist

[void pawn]

tell rein to go flying rein and send queenie off the map

[ember kettle]

IF I GET A NOTHER FUCKINNG GOD DAMN GAME

WITH A FUCKING JUNKER QUEEN JUST BEINNG ALLOWED TO AUTO WIN FOR EXISATINg

IM UNISNSTLALING

THIS PIECE OF GARBAGE ASS FUCKING AME

GAME

"GG"

THERE WAS NOTHING FUCKING "GG" ABOUT THAT FUCKING GAME

OH gee theres our teams rein

ROUND 3 TIME BABBYYYY

TIme for another junker queen on the enemy team. Round 3. Lets goooo give me a reason to uninstall again

OH GEE I WAS CORRECT

REIN VS JUNKER 3 GAMES IN A ROW

im playing mei this time. I need more consistent tank damage.

[flat elm]

just go cass vs queen

early gotta play to blow her up w rein after kiting shout

otherwise ya its prob over

[ember kettle]

I play mei or ashe. I dont give a fuck about other duelists in stadium

[flat elm]

oh fair enough

makes sense why she's a bit harder to deal w if you've mainly been on ashe

[ember kettle]

Yep and theres the junker just w keying

Shes hard to dela with no matter who you play

No one fucking beats her

[flat elm]

i think if you play cass against her it's fine

can go pretty tanky to kite or absorb the shout play

and should be able to chunk her down on engage pretty hard

[ember kettle]

They had a leaver and its 5v4 and we still lost

Fucking

Im just gonna uninstall until Junkerqueen is fixed

Mei is my anti tank

I go full on weapon power , life steal, code breaker i sit on the tank

[main jungle]

Anyone know if the -30% healing item stacks with dps passive?

[brazen wolf]

what does ability power do on mercy

[mossy storm]

went AP ashe again but instead of calamity first i went incendiary or wtv its called

was quite fun lmao

just setting everyone on fire and bursting them

[cold robin]

Why do I only get a tiny increase on wins but a lot of decrease on losses? At elite 1. The bar says "+100" and "VICTORY" as the only modifier.

[mossy storm]

preference i believe, but you see the most with max fov

[cold robin]

Only new abilities like whambulance and the health on res power benefit from it

[mossy storm]

idk about most people but im at 103 fov first person and 70 fov third person

[brazen wolf]

ty

[mossy storm]

sometimes yeah

[cold robin]

I play in third person with max fov

[solar wedge]

Hope to add a Stadium forum channel to share builds.

[mossy storm]

https://stadiumbuilds.io/

[solar wedge]

Thanks

[neon galleon]

Jack shit unless you specifically grab the power that gives Guardian Angel ability healing or the one that lets Rez give you and the target overhealth

Like if you are not grabbing those 2 powers, you have literally no reason to get most of anything from the ability tree

[late smelt]

absolutely disgusting match the win was right there 3-0 and suddenly they all started playing like theyve never touched overwatch before and we lost the next 4 rounds

[ember kettle]

blast is the one I prefer.

You usually do 1 or the other because the burn doesnt stack

Blast is fun to catch people off guard too

Be surprised how many people i 1 shot with a dynamite exploding in their face followed immedaitely by a shotgun

[oak aspen]

I dropped from pro 3 to elite 4

https://tenor.com/view/the-end-of-evangelion-gif-25422997

[inland quiver]

oof

[ember kettle]

just play better

[hearty lodge]

😬

[harsh radish]

I need them to neuter rein

And soldier

[untold marsh]

buff rein

[forest atlas]

Anyone know if charged plating in abilities stacks? (extra 25 armor and 10% ability power for ulting)

[brazen wolf]

ty

[hearty lodge]

Good question!

This could make Dva really really good let me test it

@forest atlas nope

it doesnt stack

sad, otherwise Dva would be so much better...

[forest atlas]

ah rip

wanted to see if jq was benefitting from the amount of ults she gets

[ember kettle]

He loses to every tank whos name isnt D.va

I think thats fine enough

[hearty lodge]

yeah, he loses to rein

[ember kettle]

I mean logically. Dont trust nobody. Even if its yourself.

Theres only 2 tanks. One has go lose. Even in a mirror match

[gray raptor]

am i the only one who actually wants to see wrecking ball in stadium

[solid plaza]

so im just trying to figure out is there any way to deal with a dva building around buffing her ult. like its extremely cheap in terms of cost for her to buff her nuke to double range, damage and go off faster in just round 2

[livid marsh]

I do

but I don't know how they're gonna balance it

like how queen has 2 carnage or juno with 2 torpedoes

imagine 2 slams

would be so op

[livid marsh]

how is that possible

the tech is to queue with low mmr accounts so u don't get gm lobbies

what hero r u playing

[gray raptor]

i''d hope they did something with his primary fire, maybe make them different weapons that do different things like cannons or something,

idk what they'll do

prob something that sets ppl on fire if u hit them

like roll into them

[livid marsh]

he was originally supposed to have short range flamethrowers as his primary fire

so maybe they could do something like that

still seems a little intimidating

I think ball would just be a bit much for the mode but maybe they could make it work

I can't see blizzard adding him anytime soon

other heroes will be added first

[hearty lodge]

nope, not the only one! hahaha that would be SICK! hahahaha

[vital surge]

nothing as frustrating watching an enemy 76 get pocketed by Mercy but yours is never near

[sterile kelp]

stadium will kill me stg always earning the lowest cash despite sweating lol

[grave pasture]

The cash both feels both incredibly erratic and very consistent somehow

Who were the two confirmed tanks again? I think it was Sigma Junkrat Zenyatta for S17, and Soujourn Brig for 18, but can’t remember the other tank

Winton

[oak aspen]

I have been solo q this whole time

Also I play juno

[ornate wharf]

Y’all know a Good build for D.va i only need her to get the MVP Title

[void pawn]

ok yeah no the lucio dps build still sucks

going back to AP lucio

[hearty lodge]

nice to know!

[acoustic kiln]

please overwatch make this mode 6v6

having a bad tank is a guaranteed loss

[void pawn]

hell no

it would force them to nerf money gained because of how many times the 3 round rule would happen

and the maps are just too compact for 12 people at once

[wild vector]

thanks for this ashe is one of my last characters to get a win with before i unlock the mvp title and I am terrible with her, lost like 5 times with her then used this build and was able to get a win with her first try.

[hearty lodge]

Whats the appeal to getting that MVP title?

[acoustic kiln]

mei is crazy in staidum

stadium

holy

[grave pasture]

Collectors, shows that you aren't an OTP, is a nice title, etc

Completionists sake

[neon galleon]

Ability Power Mei is, I’ve found that Weapon power Mei falls off a Cliff fast if you aren’t good with the Icicle

Cause I’m finding that the regular primary fire doesn’t scale all too well with weapon power

[neon galleon]

Can also use it to force yourself to get good with a character or at least decent enough to not be dead weight

[acoustic kiln]

so uh

survival orisa

why does she still do so much damage

i shouldnt be able to melt through people with only 5% weapon power

and she is a MONEY FARM

i had all the items i needed by round 4

then we made a 3-1 comeback

[ember kettle]

Np

[neon galleon]

There was probably other stuff affecting your damage, or your targets were just not giving a damn about their bulk. I still don’t think focusing purely on Orisa’s bulk is a good idea, I much prefer putting stuff into ability power and making sure my cooldown management is still strong

[ember kettle]

Hear me out.

What if Ana with Orisa

Shes just a wall for sleep dart to keep in action, and the big thing with orisa ult is not having enough time sometimes to get a big ULT off

But if you go aoe sleep dart clouds.... Orisa pulls them in and you can sleeep them in an aoe so it gives her extra ult charge time to blow them up

[grand vortex]

they should add soldier's drug syringe perk to stadium

[neon galleon]

They would just immediately wake back up as you DO take small bits of dot whenever you’re in Terra Surge’s aoe

Heck the fact that ANY amount of damage wakes them why is why Tracer has to put their pulse bombs next to anyone affected by it instead of on them since putting it on them does a small bit of damage

[north depot]

was wondering if the Wyrms Maw perk, for genji, counts each single shuriken separately ? or if it only counts the number of times u use primary or secondary fire ?

[ebon musk]

Can someone recommend me a reaper build I started the game a week ago and haven't really played

[neon galleon]

You pretty much focus on your weapon damage and getting like 1 or 2 survival items to ensure you can get close enough to let your passive do the work in keeping you alive

[regal mango]

hey wolfie

give me a couple of ashe builds to compare and decide on

[ember kettle]

https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/9e38ab77-1e0e-486d-9dd6-316f803eaf8e Only the 1.
Mark of Kitsune with Calmity/Incen Blast bursts.

it throws bob JR in for late game

Dynamite and scoped incen rounds builds are too predictable, slow, and easy to just. avoid and get no value from

[hybrid spear]

does stadium affect hero progression?

[ember kettle]

As in hero levels? Yes

[hybrid spear]

ok sick ty

[neon galleon]

Only for time played and wins

[ember kettle]

Whichis... weird. But it still counts for levels either way

Which is the part that matters the most

[neon galleon]

It’s probably cause the other stats can get inflated due to how Stadium is

[obtuse fox]

stadium overwatch

[cold yew]

https://vxtwitter.com/getquakedon/status/1921638036606947605?s=46&t=vzyexn6-XZvt--tEuV5pSw

GetQuakedOn (@GetQuakedOn)

stadium genji overwatch

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vxTwitter / fixvx · May 11, 2025, 6:46 PM

[hidden forge]

i gotta win as ana kiri and lucio to get my win as all 17 challenge gone. anyone have any build suggestions what stats work for who?

i’m not good at support unless they dps like a mad man moira and juno style

[ember kettle]

Lucio just use his example boop heal build. Spam boops and hump your team.
ana go sleep dart build and aoe sleep dart heal your team.
Kiri you can use her example build for healing ofudas if you arent comfortable with her.

[hidden forge]

ily

i was playing against a double boop lucio earlier

it was crazy

[sage wasp]

@undone estuary get on goat

Wait

Why did I send that here

[undone estuary]

Bro did not just tag me in stadium general

[sage wasp]

Myb

[undone estuary]

I'll get on

Which acc

[sage wasp]

Uhh

Idk

[undone estuary]

My main may or may not be d5

[sage wasp]

What is mads on

I’m d4 on my alt

We can run the diamond Smurfs

[undone estuary]

Let's find out

[potent bronze]

b

[hearty lodge]

o

[regal mango]

whoy not take incendiary coach? is the 2nd coach just to help proc dynamite?

oh calamityt is the sheen proc

for ashe

[ember kettle]

Both calam and blast work but i dont take both at once bc burn doesnt stack

I prefer burst. Better aoe

While still being able to single target burst.

The rest of the build stays the same. Just the 1 power swaps around on preferance

[regal mango]

i love me some burst

ill try it i suppose

so the build is just hitting coach and proccing spellblade on ppl?

ive been trying to make a coach burn build work but maybe this will help me figure out that build

[ember kettle]

Yep.
You burn them with the coach gun for the ult charge and damage and burst with Mark of Kitsune.
Or my favorite, explode a dynamite in their face and shoot the coach with incen blast into a mark of kitsune.
It does a surprising amount of burst.

Mid-late game with catalyst, silver lighter, and bob jr you can just start sending out bob jrs to control a space.
And since mark of kitsune is AP focused. Your dynamimtes and bob will still absolutely melt everything without sacrifcing single target damage.

The issue with the 3 ashe builds follow as such.

1. Dynamite only is too easy t just block with shields or walk away from and ignore . Giving you no value.
2. Builds that get Bob Jr and try to focus on Bob Jr. Yet again. End up being able to give no value because they tend to be able to just ignore practical game sense and bob jr doesnt really "come online" till late game.
3. Incendary Rounds / Weapon Power requires you to be landing scoped shots which tend to be slower in Stadium, it requires you to be accurate enough to land 3-4 shots if not more in a row depending and if you miss one you lose out on that bonus. And you going weapon power is gonna make dynamites not a threat and bob is a non factor. For a slow TTK.

[ember kettle]

Bro this zarya is building full tank and is the most useless tank ive ever seen

We some how won but jesus christ.

BRO THIS ASHE IS DOG SHIT. THIS IS WHY HER WINRATES SO LOW. GARBAGE PLAYERS LIKE THIS GOING FOR THE BURNING REDUCING CDR ROUND 1 AND DOING FUCK ALL FOR DAMAGE

AND NOW SHE HAS BOB JR ROUND 3 WITH DYNAMITE RANGE INCREASE???!?!?!? BRO YOU ARENT DOING ANYTHING PLEASE DONT PLAY ASHE AGAIN

YOU ARENT DOING ENOUGH DAMAGE TO EVEN GET A BOB JR ULT OFF. I DID MORE DAMAGE IN 1 ROUND THAN YOU DID IN BOTH ROUNDS COMBINED

Im going to fucking crash out

[hearty lodge]

the bad thing about knowing which builds are the most optimal for this or that character, is that you get insta tilted when an ally plays that character. They never play the good builds... its always healing field soldiers and overheat orisas... smh smh 😭

[ember kettle]

I can only do so fucking much. LMao get me out of contender please

Meanwhile the full weapon power zarya is going unpunished

God I wish this this last 2 days of being muted was over

How are people like this ashe in fucking contender

[sage wasp]

Holy yap

Myb

Take a chill pill tho it’ll be ok

[ember kettle]

Going for MVP title was a curse.

For this reason

I had to learn and practice what was optimal so I wasnt just dead weight

[hearty lodge]

i never got what the appeal was for that MVP title

i refuse to play Dva, if blizzard wants me to win with all characters then put a legendary loot box as a reward, not some random generic text

[ember kettle]

Its a quest and collection

Im a collector.

If its free and i can get it, ima get it.

Or try my best to get it.

as much as I love ashe. Ima stick to mei more often than not.
My biggest issue in stadium is the pestier divers and tanks.

And mei can handle both easily

outside of weapon power zarya

BRO THIS REAPERS NOT EVEN BUILDING DAMAGE. HOW DOES HE HAVE 6K AND 1V5ING US

[hearty lodge]

because... 🤭

HE'S BUILT DIFFERENT!!!

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-lol-xd-gif-6972117878448025061

[ember kettle]

The funniest thing about weapon power. Is just. Swinging my camera around and hitting people

BRO THIS REAPER

[hearty lodge]

we are getting LIVE reactions from Wolfie this time

hahaha

[ember kettle]

Why are they PUSHING THE REAPER THAT 2 SHOTS THEM

YOUR A REIN

ITS A 5V4. AND AS BEEN FOR 3 ROUNDS NOW. HOW ARE WE LOSING

If they win this 5v4 because my team is too stupid to look at reaper, im uninstalling the game.

Its that fucking simple

[regal mango]

Does anyone know if threads of fate works with crepuscular circle

My gf loves mercy and i really wanna cook something good up for her and i think im onto something

[hearty lodge]

nope

[ember kettle]

of course she does.

[regal mango]

Wolfie shut the fuck up

[hearty lodge]

if you are not left clicking, its not applying threads of fate

[regal mango]

It also applies primary beam to everyone

But if they leave los of you threads of fate can still conenct

I just wanted to make sure

Probably not good to stack the two still

Which one is better though 🤔🤔

[hearty lodge]

it applies it automatically, but you are not left clicking. im telling you cause i tried this combo and realized afterwards

[ember kettle]

I mean I guess everyone needs an ekitten that can only play mercy.
Tell them good luck and enjoy it while bans dont exist.

[hearty lodge]

Threads of Fate is insane on 1st round

[regal mango]

Wolfie why are u being a misogonyst

Publically

[ember kettle]

Not being misogonyst.
Being mercy-ist.

I fucking hate mercy players.

[regal mango]

And a stupid 9ne bc i never said she mains her

No ur

Kind of being a mis9gonyst

Im tired of ur shit

Blocking u now

Anyway

[hearty lodge]

isnt Wolfie's pronouns she/her? can a woman be misogonyst?

[regal mango]

Yes HAHA

Its called being a pickme

[hearty lodge]

(actually, nevermind, i dont care)

[regal mango]

Jesus christ

Youre awful ppl

Nevermind

Im out

[hearty lodge]

what did i do? 🥺

[ember kettle]

Im just pointing out the obvious and told them to enjoy it before bans come to stadiuum.

I see no value in mercy

In normal and stadium alike.

[regal mango]

Ur pathetic

[ember kettle]

Every other healer just. Does more.

All mercy has going for her is a revive that leaves her vulnurable.

[regal mango]

Loser

[hearty lodge]

Well that was uncalled for

[ember kettle]

Shes a literal detriment to the team

When every other healer can heal just as much if not more than her, while providing actual pressure.

Keep in mind. As of this moment in time.
Mercy is my 2nd most played character time wise.

[hearty lodge]

"of course she does." was all it needed to break her

[ember kettle]

[hearty lodge]

literal cup of glass

[ember kettle]

My time played in order.
Dva > Mercy > Brig > Juno > Kiri > Mei

Thats my game time in order all above 10 hours.

I say this as a person mains support. And is pretty competant in other roles.

[regal mango]

https://g.co/kgs/4NvxuaH

[hearty lodge]

im not clicking that

[ember kettle]

Same

[hearty lodge]

doesnt seem safe

anyways

i'd always want a juno in the team

[ember kettle]

Juno is about to pass brig up due to stadium.

Wild

[hearty lodge]

and then either Lucio or Moira

[ember kettle]

13 hours on brig, 12 on juno

[hearty lodge]

so Mercy isnt really top tier

heck, kiriko is better, more utility and damage

but she isnt the worst either

[ember kettle]

Like I said. She just... all she has is revive????
Moira does the healing beams better.
While doing damage. While having an better ult.
WHILE ALSO HAVING A DAMAGE BOOST OPTION?!??

[regal mango]

Its the definition of empathy

[hearty lodge]

mercy is really hard to kill and the revives are very useful

[regal mango]

You guys literally hango ut in here all day

And ur judging me

Crazy

Im out

[hearty lodge]

i wasnt tho

i was helping

[ember kettle]

I wasnt judging anyone. LMAO

[hearty lodge]

she was offended by what you said

judging or not

[hearty lodge]

but i find it funny that you werent doing what she thought you were

and she's still mad

like, a normal response would be: "ah, mb, i missinterpreted it"

[ember kettle]

Even with the time i've played mercy
I am an avid mercy hater and can understand why people hate seeing a mercy on their team.

And she just so happens to be the most played support in the game because shes basically the yuumi of the game.

[hearty lodge]

i dont think she is top tier, but im never unhappy to have a mercy on Stadium...

[ember kettle]

"hey boo come play league and go yuumi and just pocket me all game"

[hearty lodge]

she's consistent. i know that any fool will at least be able to heal a bunch with mercy

like, if im playing Juno, and the other supp goes Mercy, im relieved knowing i can go full DPS since they have the healing part covered for me

[ember kettle]

The thing with Mercy is.
Like I said shes got this "pocket healer" syndrome by 9/10 people that player her and refuse to heal anyone else on the team besides their duo

I do not like the ult build because it leaves you too vulnurable.
Tank revive mercy lets you get safer revives but you dont get much value out of everything else.

The best build for mercy esp early game revolves around weapon power and... whats it called. oh. Threads of Fate. That woulda been helpful for the convo if they didnt get offended so fast at me not even saying something offensive.
Hell arguably I wanna try distortion out. 20% life steal while being damage damage boosted sounds like it would go hard.

[hearty lodge]

@regal mango if you are interested:
https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/1ec30337-bb51-4ff7-8ff8-a9df56ec12b4
https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/f752c80c-cef4-44de-9784-71b77b5c1890
https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/bd9e0950-c29f-4ffa-8468-e565b06a1a0d

[ember kettle]

threads of fate , distortion round 3, get the one perk that those that are damage boosted get a bigger boost and charge your ult faster

[sullen patrol]

yo im an illari main dawg hahaha

(its me btw)

also that was rude as hell

[hearty lodge]

yo k8lyn, what type of mercy playstyle do you want?

on Stadium, you've got:

1. Super Healing
2. Resurrect every 12 seconds + tanky AF
3. Machine Gun

[sullen patrol]

yeah thats fine its fun to play her every now and then tho man, its not about the "best" all the time, do u ever have fun or try anything silly? lmao

ehh im good lol

anyway

[hearty lodge]

That's what Reinhardt was made for wasnt it?

xD

[ember kettle]

AC-130 mercy isnt real.
AC-130 mercy cant hurt you.

[hearty lodge]

whats AC-130

[ember kettle]

Battle Medic

[hearty lodge]

ahhh i get it now, im so dumb

[ember kettle]

Ive always been a fan of mercys blaster

its like d.vas blaster. Highly slept on damage

Esp more so in stadium with the weapon power building

Im a very aggressive mercy player. Even outside of stadium.

I will let you get to 20% health before I Heal beam you if I know you arent in immediate danger of dying

My game plan would prob be battle medic round one, spam blasters for damage, heal when I need too to get some battle medic attack speed stacks.
Go weapon power / attack speed / mag size
Round 3 go into crepul circle to get the free beams on ult to play into the charging battle medic for me while im in the air. probably get celestial clip , mid air mobilizer, etc.

Prob since you are in the air and gonna be more aggressive, i'd say atleast vital-e and nebula conduit so you dont just go shrekt'd

Why are tank queues so long. Ima cry.

[ember kettle]

@hearty lodge Ideas on what Zenyatta is gonna get in stadium?

I kinda want a power for him that instead of his right click being a "charged snipe" that it becomes a shotgun

[neon galleon]

I mean….if you get the 2 Valkyrie powers first you can always pull your gun out for free whenever Valk is going and then get battle medic

[ember kettle]

I dont like building around ult on round 1-2

It feels like suc ha waste

[flat elm]

early you should just play into neutral

get ahead in first 2 rounds and game almost always over anyway

[neon galleon]

I mean one power makes Valk activate whenever you Rez someone and the other makes Valk automatically apply both beams to anyone close enough to you, even when you have the gun out, which makes Valk the literal perfect time to pull out the gun

[cursive nymph]

Yea a Valk build sounds really fun

But you can always build it up so it's ready by r5

[gentle star]

what the fuck are you supposed to do vs rein as zarya

i feel like the best strategy right now is to just disconnect and go next

geniuenly like all he does is hold W and left click and he wins

[gentle star]

I really want the Juno skin. I've been playing for 24 hours (stat from my profile) and I have a sub 5% win rate

what am I supposed to do

I've been playing overwatch since launch 9 years ago and I'm still so dogshit

[ember kettle]

Hence why its a round 3-5 thing

I dont wanna rely on ult and revives early

[ember kettle]

KILL THE HEALERS FFS GENJI

BRO WHY IS GENJI NOT FOCUSING THE JUNO

Their entir eteam is juno kiri reaper and genji. Its so fucking slippery

[ember kettle]

You go AP

Well you go AP zarya every game if you care about winning

And if you have sub 5% win rate.. yikers

Are you playing someone you are comfortable on?

[acoustic kiln]

until they make a 3-1 comeback like LEBRONNNNNNNNNNNNN

[ember kettle]

Bro whats with all these tanks

Being such pussies

and not pressing W

Like holy fucking trash ass bitches

get off of tank

Its not that fucking hard to press the W key

I have never seen such a utterly garage filth for a tank before

WHY DO WE HAVE WEAPON POWER JUNO

HOLD THE FUCK UP

NO WONDER WE ARE LOSING (Minus the garbage tank)

I was 1 game off of elite on DPS. How am I getting novice team mates like this

Bro mercy juno is unplayable.

Esp with trash fucking team mates

THey are literaly perma 100% hp and perma flying around and cant be hit

Orisa if she wasnt trash woulda just beamed them down.
Mcree coulda just beamed them down but had the accuracy of gold fish or ignored them.
Juno was weapon power when she coulda just gone AP and exploded them mid air.

God im hating the climb to pro on everyone

[pliant dragon]

damn the server disconnects count as leaves?
Says im suspended for rest of season :/

[ember kettle]

Thats a you issue

I've not dc'd from the game or servers once and I have been playing non stop basically daily

So you fully deserve the suspension

[untold marsh]

Wolfie don’t play man 😂

[untold marsh]

made my day not gonna lie

[ember kettle]

Bro NEITHER OF MY HEALERS ARE HEALING

THEY LEGIT BOTH HAD SUB 900 HEALING TO THE ENEMSI 5000

LIKE WHAT IN THE FUCK

THey arent even doing good fucking damage when they are trying to play DPS and not heal

[obtuse fox]

stadium overwatch

[pliant dragon]

yeah even a 10 second dc during buying time counts it seems

oh well and just made it to pro too

never had this issue before and it only happens on ow, no issues with other bliz games

[untold marsh]

Skill issue?

[ember kettle]

No. They are legit upfront playing frontline and flank DPS.
Its a DPS Lucio and Moira that were physically not healing

[untold marsh]

Nah

That’s incorrect

[ember kettle]

??? It is though?

How you gonna tell me whats correct in my game that you wasnt in ?

[cursive nymph]

@remote roost iirc AP is best for ashe

Not sure what the build is though

[remote roost]

ah so the other guy was trolling LMAO

[cursive nymph]

Prolly not trolling just wrong

[remote roost]

i guess there could be different builds for different team comps too

whats iirc btw

[ember kettle]

https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/9e38ab77-1e0e-486d-9dd6-316f803eaf8e

This is the build I helped Rey cook up

Calamity and Incen Blast round 1 are interchangable. 1 is more single target damage and the other is more AoE burns and funny AoE bursts

[cursive nymph]

Dmg build is definitely viable on ashe too btw

[cursive nymph]

It means if I recall correctly

[ember kettle]

Also Ima be real.
I dont think Soldier 76s aim bot power is worth it anymore. 0.5 seconds isnt enough to really do fucking anything

[cursive nymph]

Yea I prefer chaingun

But I'm good at soldier anyway

[remote roost]

gotcha ty

[ember kettle]

id say man on the run round 1 is prob the best bet

[remote roost]

yea i've seen them around so thats why i said that lol i just wanna do it right

[ember kettle]

The periphal pulse is still great to get because its just. 50% more damage

Because you hit a 2nd target in ult

Chain Gun also looks good

Main issue I see with chain gun is.... 76 should never be firing that many bullets realistically unless ist a tank?

Hes got insane burst esp if you hit head shots

Esp in 2+ when you can rush the eye

• Helix Rockets

Run around do a controlled burst into a helix rocket and they just pop.

[hearty lodge]

there's always the rockets build for soldier:
https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/0993cbfb-96c5-4477-ae60-2af50602eafd

[ember kettle]

I am messing around with sombra and found out she has a healing perk.
I really hope they bring that concept over to stadium

I always loved the idea of support sombra

[acoustic kiln]

stadium sombra might kill the gamemode ngl

you know there's gonna be ability lockout stuff

[fossil tartan]

How do things like extra ammo for rein work lmao?

[hearty lodge]

Thats the neat thing!~

They don't

🥀

[fossil tartan]

Yeah so like is there a list of items that are actually applicable to the champs cause I feel like a lot of em do nothing 💀

[flat elm]

do you think its better than weap dmg???

[flat elm]

hahah if you get ahead and dont int in you should be fine, it's pretty hard to turn stuff around if enemy is all up an item

[gentle star]

zarya, my old main

[acoustic kiln]

im one game off from pro

[gentle star]

i have fun with her but i just cant win

[acoustic kiln]

but it’s also almost 4am

[gentle star]

idk what im doing wrong since i have the win rate of an afk player

[flat elm]

cant end on a win

[hearty lodge]

you can press left alt on overwatch so when you hover over items and powers they tell you what they buff

or otherwise you can check what other people have been building for them at stadiumbuilds.io

[civic oxide]

stadium sombra will be peak ngl

[gentle star]

i deranked from elite 5 to contender 3

idk what to do

i cant win a single game no matter what i do

im now contender 2

[civic oxide]

Idk bro

just win

[hearty lodge]

If you are losing, there will always be reasons, and the mayority will be something you can fix (unwinnable matches are real, but most of the time its always winnable). Its all about increasing the chances of winning, you cant reach 100% but you can approach it!
Playstyle, Build, Team Composition, Communication, Adaptability, Timing.

• Playstyle: your chances of winning with Mercy for example are higher if you heal and stay alive than if you shoot enemies.
• Build: you have statistically less chances of winning with an unoptimal build like "Biotic Field Soldier" than with a more optimized one that focuses on "Aimbot" or "Helix Rockets".
• Team Composition: If you know what the other 4 players will play, you can choose a character that compliments them or covers an inherent weakness the other 4 characters have. Like choosing Cassidy when you have a Zarya in your team, to fight a possible enemy Renhardt. Or choosing Kiriko when you have a Reinhardt to help him with the increased attack speed and movement speed Kiriko's items give, as well as bypass Mei's walls or Ana's grenades.
• Communication: You have more chances of winning by communicating, literally, whatever you notice important. You noticed the enemy reaper start to dive your supports on the first rounds? Tell it to your team! Maybe they can focus him when he does so and protect the backline! Your tank is moving in a way that's hard to heal? Tell them! Work in conjunction to make each other's life easier!
• Adaptability: "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face". You should be able to realize when your plan A stops working and figure out a plan B to fix the problem. Preparation and experience will help you here.

[gentle star]

for tank do you think I should only choose zarya with ally divers or is a more selfish bubble build alright in their absence?

what even is the best zarya build rn

[hearty lodge]

Zarya is consistently good without divers if you build for weapon power.

But her best form is when you have divers you can use your bubbles on.

[hearty lodge]

Solo: https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/c2cfd7fe-7398-4532-81b9-21d0912b7ecc
With divers: https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/74bb1bd9-c41a-4e93-ab1b-1547ba3a9eb9

imo, those 2

[gentle star]

i see i see

vs rein what would you recommend? i feel totally useless when its rein

[hearty lodge]

Play around him

dont play into him

keep your team alive and try to kill his supports

if your supports are being dived then support them with your bubbles

if Reinhardt goes past you, or one of their squishies goes too ahead then just focus on killing what you can kill the quickest

and most importantly than anything, STAY IN LINE OF SIGHT OF YOUR SUPPORTS

[gentle star]

👍 i see

thank you for taking the time to write such a long response lmao

i was mostly typing out of desperation and a need to vent im pleasantly surprised to hear someone heard my pain

[hearty lodge]

Dont worry, and good luck soldier 🫡

[flat elm]

For zar I'd still go more into playing for yourself if you aren't in group or anything

Or you go bubble build and half your bubbles are wasted, and then you get run over yourself

Unless you can see from start that your DPS will actually play off you

[unkempt finch]

Guys am i tripping or are support queues way longer than other roles

[hearty lodge]

thats normal

everyone wants to play support

very little people want to play tank for all the responsability it comes with
and on DPS, you need to tryhard to win, otherwise noone is gonna tryhard for you

support is simply the easiest role to play and chill, plus the role with the most varied heros on Stadium atm

DPS has 3 hitscans, 2 divers and Mei. If you dont like hitscans, cant play Genji and are bad with Reaper/Mei, then you dont queue for DPS

Mei used to be the "easy" pick for DPS (i guess so used to be aimbot soldier), but the boulder doesnt kidnap people like before and does significantly less damage, so you gotta build her more for weapon power to do well, which is harder to play

[harsh radish]

In a game and my whole team is throwing because I beat them the game before

They really shouldn't let previous enemies be on your team the immediate next game

[dark jetty]

u can avoid them if u want but i think most people are fine with previous enemies on their team

[ember kettle]

Yes. Between volkaya vortex and the shield spam to enable your team

[flat elm]

i'll give it a go sometime, ive only ever done weap dmg but havent had issue w rein

his shield goes down pretty quick anyway i feel

since most reins just play for ap

[ember kettle]

Wp can work. I just thonk the strength off the volaya vortex and shiels are better. As long as youbarent going full tank

[flat elm]

yea i think i just play for consistent beam dmg rather than spam

think it depends a lot on what rein is building too

but most reins just charge in

or else they just lose all shield and die anyway

[opaque bear]

nah they definitely are

I'm only pro 5 rn and last time I played the queues were around 30 mins when I solo queued

[ember kettle]

Volskaya Vortex though. Seems to ignore all walls and shields. And does really strong aoe.

[flat elm]

what happens if they just speed on you

whats full build for it like even

i usually take lifelift and nolimit

[ember kettle]

I go Volskaya Vortex > Fission Field > Barrier Benefits > Containment Field

Lynx Datadrive and Superconductor are your focuses.
But after that I just. Get standard AP things and AP LIfesteal

lets you spam shields, you shied 2 people at once, your shields give ovehrealth, healing, and movement speed.
lynx datadrive refreshes the cd to spam E more. Superconductor balances out fission fields -20% duration to give you +40% duration.

And since you get hella AP, volksaya just melts people

Without having to rely on energy for the damage

Shield, lob, shield, lob

If you want instead of containment field, getting a cata crystal + her power for graviton anomoly might be good? Havent tested the graviton anomoly

And if you shield before you ult, you can just sit them all in your volskaya vortex for teh massive aoe damage

My usual 4 items after superconductor and lynx database is like... nano cola, champ kit, and energized bracers, and cata charger (still good even without graviton anomoly)

Gives me some lifesteal, and 115 AP.

i love when supports and people in the back sniping think they are safe, i just lob a vortex right click their way and they just die.

[flat elm]

ohh it's just super heavy peel build

and yea i guess you're playing to bubble teammate for reduce cd then spam out the aoe orbs

makes sense

takes longer for build to come online too right

[ember kettle]

I have been sleeping on hidden blade genji

[ember kettle]

Nope. Its good to go from round 1-3

[flat elm]

since you split between bubble perks/items and dmg

[ember kettle]

You get damage from the bubble items

[flat elm]

ya but its less bc its also playing to peel

[ember kettle]

And volskaya vortex is your round 1 pikc up starting at 100 damage

[flat elm]

rather than going pure ap

[ember kettle]

You dont understand. THose bubble items are giving you 10-15 power each

which is th eaverage for power items

Outside of like. champ kit.

Yeah they both give 15 ap

ontop of 25 health each

• the barrier benefits

Thats only 5% weaker than a nano cola.

[flat elm]

hmm ya but you miss out on champ kit early bc of it

[ember kettle]

You would never go champ kit early in the first place

[flat elm]

yea i think its just that

[ember kettle]

Thats like getting a rabadons deathcap 2nd item on league

[flat elm]

the ap items in general seem to be more all rounder stuff

[ember kettle]

Makes absolutely no sense

[flat elm]

yea i guess just since im looking at ad comparison

for ad i just get eye of spider as first purp almost every time

and then run into them

[ember kettle]

Id say...25k for round 3 is acceptable. That lets you have both barrier purples, player playbook, and an energized bracers at round 3 for 50 AP

Which is plenty.

[flat elm]

yea maybe works out since theyre cheaper

and rn i dont rly have an idea how ap scales on her

[ember kettle]

If you have less, you just remove energized bracers and get the green ap lifesteal or something

Realistclaly you just need the 2 shield perks and the green ap for 21k which is more reasonable

[flat elm]

i think otherwise i was thinking like

superflexor superconductor phantasmic flux something like that

which is playing just more for the m2 damage

not the power

[ember kettle]

I dont like superflexor.
And with the spamming aoe shields, you get plenty charge and your beams gonna hurt no matter what even without building weapon powe.r

Maybe if superflexor didnt have such a limiting duration in 3 seconds

[flat elm]

yea its a bit short thats fair point

[ember kettle]

Barely have enough time on juno to shoot then torpedo before the buff fully wears off.

And I dont know how snap shotting works if its mid air when the buff leaves

And juno is one of the best ones for the superflexor due to the "on healing" and her gun being a burst it takes 1 shot to fully charge it

Thats my issue with alot of the conditional stuff like that is

Oh one of the perks you can get on the zarya

fusion drive

50 armor, 15 ap, on ability you get 50 armor/shields over 2 seconds

So while you are spamming abilities, even if its your team mates, you are giving yourself armor and shields when you are lower. If you do want extra survavbility

But its just. Not needed honestly. But it can work

[proven knot]

hey you play dva too right

[flat elm]

i havent played her in stadium yet

pretty much only zar so far

but barely played any tank im only gold

like 5-6 games

[ember kettle]

Im just all role queueing and going with what ever gives lowest queue times

[proven knot]

Just struggling with Rein rn. Feel like I’ve got every other tank more or less figured out

[flat elm]

i think dva struggles w everyone hahah

[proven knot]

idk the other tanks seem fine. Got a good build for them

[ember kettle]

Thats just goes with my saying of "rein loses to every tank whos not named dva"

[proven knot]

yeah I kinda need to figure out something better than that

[ember kettle]

Just play around baby d.va and ult spamming.

Its d.vas best bet in most cases

[proven knot]

The ult spam build feels too slow to farm against him

• he’s one of the better tanks at not dying to it. and saving teammates potentially

[exotic pilot]

is that a stadium take or a game take

cause rein does NOT beat dva in game

actually its fairly map dependent

[ember kettle]

Stadium

All rein needs is siphon gloves / gaunlet and dva will never beat him

[torpid cosmos]

I have a questions regarding mercy, does weapon power add to her boosting multiplyer or just how much she heals healing?

[ember kettle]

just her healing and pistol

There is a perk that boosts the beam boost thoug

[hearty lodge]

Siphon Gloves doesnt work on Reinhardt

his melee weapon is not catagorized as a "quick-melee" and thus isnt giving you 25 hp on hit

even if you press the quick melee button it doesnt work

[proven knot]

dva beats rein on every single map in base game

[exotic pilot]

watchpoint

[slender oracle]

dva gets bummed in flat maps

Play dva vs rein on lijiang

I lowk fw the server emojis

[proven knot]

rein sucks in the base game

Why did they add Rein to stadium? He's so corny

Terribly unfun to fight

[hearty lodge]

rein is one of the few characters in stadium with many varied, fun, viable builds in stadium

you can go AP Firestrike, Lifesteal Brawler, AP Flying Charge, Shield Regen, Damage Wall. Its actually insane how many good builds Rein has in stadium

why did they add rein to stadium? i think cause they want to have an easy W+left_click character in each role (rein/reaper/mercy)

[torpid cosmos]

okie thank you

[proven knot]

and somehow they're all cringe

[spring pasture]

Uridjsjsjejfjjasj wait wth you only gain 100 points for a win in pro ?

[ember kettle]

Enemies ana 2k damage / 3k healing
ours 500 damage / 3k healing

Found the useless healer

Its ours.

idiots nt realizing they can do more than just heal.

SHE HAS THE AUTO LOCK ON HEAL!?!??!?! WHY!?!?!? ITS GARBAGE

I fucking hate people

Dont play the role if you arent fucking good at it

That fucking god damn simple

if you cant fucking aim, then dont play ana.

Meanwhile the enemy juno ojust torpedoing for free

Such a massive fucking healer diff its insane. Its like if im not on healer, we dont have a healer.

"report this mei for walling me off"
Bro im wallig you off so you dont go flying off the edge or into your death. Im not walling you off to troll. Im playing my character properly you bloody fucking idiot

imagine getting salty about a mei using her walls when its to protect the team

OH boy ANOTHER USELESS ASS FUCKING D.VA

Wish people would stop fucking playing this garbage ass fucking character

She doesnt do anything. In or out of stadium

Think I have a 100% loss rate playing with a Dva on my team

OH LOOK SHES NOT BUILDING TANK. FIGURES. SO YOU ARE JUST CHOPPED FUCKING LIVER AND MIGHT AS WELL BE AFK

[errant scarab]

to rank up you need to win 5 in a row. If you lose you lose 100% of the bar

winning = 20% losing = 100%

tf

[ember kettle]

So fucking tired of d.va players

Like if you have a d.va on your team, you are better off afking. Because you arent winning against any team that has more than 2 collective brain cells working together.

Like I am not an advocate of leaving. But If I wasnt punished for it, i'd auto leave against any dva I see

Meanwhile orisa is building full armor, while I have codebreaker on mei the anti mei build. and 1v3ing us in the backline

Because god forbid I get the good tank on my teamm

YOU ARE GOING FULL WEPAON POWER WHY DO YOU HAVE THE BOOSTERS LAVA. THATS GOING TO LEGIT TICKLE THEM WITHOUT AP

Bro no. I refuse to believe my team mates are real humans.

[coarse fern]

why am i getting put with people 2 fucking whole ranks beneath me on my RANKUP GAME?

[ember kettle]

I just want elite damage so I can stop playing it

i need to finish getting elite on dps and tank to finish getting the genji and orisa skin

Then im going back to my support

[coarse fern]

like holy fuck im on my rankup and i get put with people who dont even know how to buy items yet

why make a competitive mode if youre not gonna have competitive matchmaking

like wtf

[ember kettle]

BRO ORIS AHAS 15 MITIGATED

SHE TAKES NO DAMAGE

15K

SHES BEING SHOT BY THE WHOLE TEAM

17K FUCKING MITGATED

IM USING AN ENTI ORISA BUILD

WTF IS THIS CHARACTER

HOW IS THIS ALLOWED

[coarse fern]

theres items that lets u both ignore 50% of armor and deal more damage to armor

gotta get that for her sadly

[ember kettle]

I HAVE THOSE

SHE DOESNT CARE

I HAVE THE WEAPN JAMMER I HAVE THE CODE BREAKER I HAVE THE MORE HP THING

SHE LEGIT. DOESNT FUCKING CARE.

SHE HEALS FASTER THAN 5 PEOPLE LOOKING AT HER CAN DEAL DAMAGE TO HER

Me and soldier 76 BOTH had them.
IM using the ANTI TANK MEI BUILD

She presses Fortify and heals 3 health buffs faster than we can fucking damage her

There is legit NO REASON in ANY FUCKING WORLD that should be fucking allowed

17k mitigated in 2 FUCKING MINUTES just running at us 1v5.

AND SHE DID 7K DAMAGE FULL TANK IN THE PROCESS
This is why anyone that says a tank needs to build damage to have a presence, are fucking stupid.

Your presence as a tank comes from surviving long enough to stay in the enemies face and block the door off.

Full tank fortify spamming orisa is legit on the same level of unkillable as AP Junkerqueen