stadium-discussion

[ember kettle]

bro I cant with this novice rank bro

Theres no shot you are so bad at the game you are losing in the backlines 1v3 against a single god damn fucking moira

I legit cant get out of novice ranks on tank/dps no matter what the fuck I do because no one knows how to play tank and healer

https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/b486c8ac-6358-4671-9c07-74f2168b2082 Btw

The build you are trying to do

[warm flint]

the more time you spend in queue for a match, the worse the match quality it'll give you. it may actually be a strat to never let the queue time hit above like 5 minutes and just requeue. (unless you are 5stacking)

oh yeah and for support players, 5stack or be prepared to just not have fun

[ember kettle]

WTB A SKIP PLAY OF THE GAME

I dont care about someone missing 10 shots then ulting

Im level 80 on the pass.

Not bad. Only 26 hours of extruciating pain of stadium

If thats about the average I can expect, thats. Really solid for battle pass speeds

Annnnd we are being spawn camped by reaper mei zarya

Oh thats why. We have a Dva

Because thats all these novice tanks want to play is dva

[slender oracle]

stadium discussion but people just be crashing out in here 90% of the time

[ember kettle]

Then discuss shit. Topic changes can happen very quick

This channel is dead if im not having crash outs in it

Garbage ass fucking tanks. Just stop playing Dva

SHes not fucking good

Literally just a free game for the enemy because weapon power mei and zarya just w keying because we have 0 fucking god damn frontline

I love losing games I Have absolutely 0 fucking god damn control ooooooof

[night edge]

I feel the pain when my take picks dva, it's like if I am not tank I don't get to have fun

[ember kettle]

Playing around with it.
Dynamite Burning Ashe is better than Weapon burning ashe

Esp if incidary blast with your carnage, which procs calamity bonus and mark of kitsune damage

you blast them with infrared lenses which gives 15% ap and 20% more damage to burning targets, and since they are burning from blast, blast then gives you bonus damage from calamity + mark of kitsune, they just get popped

@hearty lodge I need math

I know its disgusting but I just need math

@split basin You was interested in ashe things

From my testing this is prob gonna be her biggest bursting, most consistent build.

Your dynamites melt. Your bob just melts. You can shotgun + mark of kitsune and just instantly delete someone with the 100 AP

Like. This build is proving to be genuinely disgusting

Like genuinely might have cooked

[split basin]

Definitely going to have to give this a try. Feels weird not getting the incendiary rounds but maybe I'll just leave that as a choice against orisas or something

[ember kettle]

I dont scope in this build

Its not needed

Its a different build entirely. Rounds still makes you go full weapon power

Since the rounds damage scales on your weapon power

[split basin]

so firing no-scope on burning targets to reduce dynamite and coach gun cooldowns?

[ember kettle]

You throw dynamites where you can at hallways, but your main damage is pressing your coach gun and hitting even just 1 auto with mark of kitsune.

It is doing so much damage

And due to how mark of kitsune if worded. Even without coach gun you can throw your dynamite, shoot it early, and it wont waste mark of kitsune because its not doing weapon damage to blow up the dynamite

Since it only counts on enemy hits and not things like the dynamite

This is prob the best build ive tried on her honestly for overall consistency of just. Everything.

Weapon builds to reliant on landing every shot.
Dynamite builds too focused on dynamite.

This build just does it all

If only my team wasnt stupid and knew how to play against mei

[coarse fern]

getting the absolute worst players i have ever seen in this game on my team when the only thing you can play in this gamemode is competitive

lord have mercy

[ember kettle]

I just booped the mei back into the orisa ult

she woulda gotten out

Absolutely. Diabolical

And absolutely deserved because it was a mei

I just did it again with a full team. LMAO

[main jungle]

Just hit Pro!

[ember kettle]

Im bouncing around i just hit co tender on ashe finally

Thanks to ashe i mean

This mark of kitsune build i cooked up is gross

[main jungle]

I'm still contender on tank & dps, but support is by far the most fun role so far, even despite the longer queue times

[ember kettle]

Debatable.
Every role has fun in it just gonna find it.

@main jungle Try this ashe build out in stadium.
I gurentee you will have fun

[main jungle]

Tank is probably my second favorite, I just don't have the aim for dps. Zarya ability power is super fun

I still need Ashe for the role though, so ill try it out

[ember kettle]

I AM FREEEEE. Auto mute system.

Wish we could just post a screenshot for the build here.

@main jungle Its in your DMs now because of auto mute deleting it but yeah. Try that build. Dont even bother wasting time on aiming in

Also turns out I was wrong on mark of kitsune.

You cant just shoot your dynamite. It wastes the proc

[main jungle]

Huh

Thx, btw

[ember kettle]

The builds really good and fun and isnt really that accurate. The first shot for mark of kitsun is but besides that, can kinda just spray and pray with your gun in unscoped since its just faster

[acoustic kiln]

junker queen

is SO much fun

[random narwhal]

T14J3S | 10 minute stadium round! Longest I've ever seen. ~6 ults per hero for a single objective! It felt like old OW1 2CP 😅

[hearty lodge]

Worst thing is he's right lol

[ember kettle]

Like god forbid im in thr kitchen cooking up a goated ashe build to share and no one chips in

[hearty lodge]

For Ashe?

[ember kettle]

They only come in to see me crashing out

Yeah

Ill send you the build

Auto mod deleted it

[hearty lodge]

Ashe is so trash...

It rhymes and everything, so you know its true

Lmao

[ember kettle]

I sent you the build. Trust me. The gameplans there. Its disgustingly strong. The most successful ive been on ashe

Scoped build is aight but it requires you to land every shot, and its too single target focused. . The dynamite build imho is bad for throwing all your eggs in one basket. This build does it all.

Dont even care if kiriko cleanses you can get rhe cleanse ult charge and its more of an initial burst build with mark

[hearty lodge]

This is exactly why ashe is bad in summary. If there's a build that bypasses these problems, id love to see it

[ember kettle]

I sent it in DMs because not able to post screenshots here and dont wanna get auto muted. Its playing around Mark of Kitsune Coachgun AP.
100 AP is just gonna make your shotgun more easily apply massive amounts of burning, while keeping the dynamite damage, bob becomes a bastion, all while making it so your gun doesnt tickle in AP like it would in dynamite builds due to calamity bonus damage and bonus, mark of kitsune big burst of damage, infrared laser 25% bonus damage to burning (this includes your weapon damage), etc.

[hearty lodge]

Damn... Its sad that a build like that is Ashe's best bet

[ember kettle]

It just does everything. While making her be able to play alot more aggressive and fast paced

The only time you really need to scope or should scope, is prob to just be more accurate on a mark of kitsune shot in more of a quickscope style

But like... I was having really good success with it in terms of damage and kill pressure I had on it

[hearty lodge]

Yeah it doesnt seem bad

[ember kettle]

People were talkig about scope builds and such with ashe and ive tried the scope and dynamite build. But seeing the calamity perk and double charges and such I got to thinking about the glide boost mark of kitsune juno build you cooked up

And was like... "hold up. wait a minute I think I can cook something up"

In every sense of the word since ashes whole thing is setting people on fire

LMAO

Also putting your burn dots into coach gun is more easily hittable since they cant just run away from it like the dynamite. and a 20m frontal cone is REALLY forgiving on hitting

if they run out of dynamite, good job you hit nothing and now you have all that ap doing nothing

[hearty lodge]

normal shot (no scope) deals 35 dmg. + 40 AP after coach gun + 25 AP from Kitsune = 100 dmg, 65 of which is AP, 35 is WP. And your next shot also has the 40 but not the 25 so 75, in 2 shots you'll deal 175 + whatever ammuont of chip damage you got from coach gun (like 10 dmg?).
On the combo you have 105 AP and 70 WP so you could build for AP getting...

Wait a minute, the 40 doesnt stack

since its a burning DoT you'd have to wait till it ends to apply it again for maximum efficiency. Otherwise you are wasting its damage by reapplying it earlier

[ember kettle]

Like if I can take this build concept and improve it, that would be goated.

[hearty lodge]

i'll do the math cause im now interested if its better than the scoped build

[ember kettle]

The big thing for me is it feels more bursty, while having to be less accurate

I have to land 1 big shot, instead of landing like 3-4 consective shots for Incedary Rounds

Which ... can be a bit harder with all the quick as fuck bastards like genji lucio glide boosting junos etc

Like this might just be a case of "ashe isnt bad. people are just buiding her wrong because its still a new gamemode" kinda moments.

I just know you are better at the math and putting into like... a build guide per say

i can cook up the basic idea and gameplay plan. You improve on the math and build lmao

[hearty lodge]

yeah, no, its better this way

A single scoped shot is dealing 174.5 damage after coach gun

on Round 3

[ocean vessel]

lucio feels so good in 3 person

[ember kettle]

Thats what Iwas noticing. Coach Gun Mark of Kitsune was slappping

Feels good to know im not actually just... Overglazing something that doesnt deserve it

[hearty lodge]

@ember kettle i put something together, cant really make detailed notes when i havent played it and its all purely theoretical tho:
https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/9e38ab77-1e0e-486d-9dd6-316f803eaf8e

[ember kettle]

Im. Not a big fan of tripod? I feel like i'm always pretty ground level and with my tanks? And how far low do they have to be to consider the buff?

[hearty lodge]

literally 0.1m below you counts

you can jump and it counts

but you can change it if you dont like it

its not the end of the world

[ember kettle]

I guess theres... Maybe.

Hold up

Rocket jump

[main jungle]

The Lucio ult squish is calling out to me like the green goblin mask

[ember kettle]

Use the shotgun to blast yourself into the air procing the calamity + mark of kitsune and since you are airborne and can get onto the roof using coach gun to "rocket jump" that easily procs tripod.

[hearty lodge]

... well yeah that was the whole point lol

glad you realized hahahahaha

[ember kettle]

It took me a second to register

The second you said just a single jump of 0.1m inot the air procs it

Lmao on round 3, you can 1 shot a brig with a headshot

Her base stats are 200 health 50 armor

And a single shot to the head with this can kill her

So it seems its a calamity OR incen blast. Since you said the burns dont stack

Sucks to know those dont stack though

Maybe you can do blast if theres no kiriko, or if there is a kiriko you can do calamity

Keep everything else about the build the same

This is why I need a build saver

[hearty lodge]

what's calamity?

im too lazy to search it up

and too dumb to remember

[ember kettle]

Thats the 2 shots after coach gun burning

[dusty oak]

when widow in stadium

[hearty lodge]

Bro, Juno is just so stupidly broken

my winrate with her is like 88%

literally no other supp comes close to her rn

[modest spindle]

question does healing scale off anything in stadium

[hearty lodge]

no

[modest spindle]

like can ana heal more if i build gun damage or AP

[hearty lodge]

Weapon Power

cause the healing comes from your gun

BUT

if you build Ability Power your grenade will heal more instead

cause, you know... its an ability xD

[modest spindle]

same as juno with torps

vs gun

[hearty lodge]

yep

yep

[modest spindle]

so if i went full attack speed juno

good or bad

[hearty lodge]

you'll be healing more with your gun per minute

but i'd suggest you try this build out:
https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/2fa329f0-ae9b-4721-8369-c47584fffb5f

its by far her best build (imo)

you can heal a ton, or deal a ton of damage, or both

[modest spindle]

the self plug is crazy but im down

[hearty lodge]

you are incredibly slippery too

[hearty lodge]

i mean, if someone else had done it i would've linked it anyways

[modest spindle]

true

[sweet perch]

what about lucio

lucio seems pretty useful ngl

[hearty lodge]

he's very good

so is moira

but they are S tier

Juno is S+

[modest spindle]

i genuinly cant wait for next season. i dont play a single hero that this game mode cameout with

but next season is adding all 3 of my mains

[primal lance]

How does AP affect Suzu?

[verbal stratus]

I tried this one last night and had a good time 🙂 I'm not All-Star 5 by any means though 🤣

[ember kettle]

Depends.

[regal mango]

wolfie i heard u got muted

[ember kettle]

Auto mute.

[regal mango]

ah damn

[ember kettle]

My Ashe build I was editing got too long. :c

So it got spam detected

I was cooking earlier for Ashe builds.

Since her normal seen 2 builds are... not reliable per say and take too long to kill or just get ignored.

[hearty lodge]

The rollercoaster of emotions the moment i see a soldier in my team

and then he picks a Healing build

not stonks...

[sweet perch]

how do i see who is getting added

[hearty lodge]

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24198087/

[ocean vessel]

zen better have like a discord orb poison ap build

[hearty lodge]

Freja in Stadium is gonna be sooooo goooddddd

and Junkrat has so many good things he could have

https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/1kcw3o8/overwatch_stadium_junkrat_powers_and_item_ideas/

he's the "nah, i dont feel like aiming" guy in the roaster hahahhaa

[errant vale]

Making an orisa overheat build gotta be the second greatest meme build in the game

Behind the boulder

[deep elbow]

I’m novice two on ps5 anyone wanna play

[hearty lodge]

its sooo bad hahahaha

[errant vale]

1. There's a channel specifically for lfg stadium
2. Rank doesn't really matter since everyone can group together
3. You haven't said what role you are playing

[errant vale]

But it's funny

Thats what matters

Just like making a Lucio beat build or a baby dva build

[hearty lodge]

trueee

[hearty lodge]

where is the lfg stadium channel?

i dont see it in my discord

i saw it before

like, some days ago

[errant vale]

Maybe check in channels and roles

You might have to enable it

[cursive nymph]

Yea I really am NOT looking forward to JR in stadium

Weapon power or attack speed builds are gonna be so hell

[hearty lodge]

pew pew pew pew pew

KABOOM

hahahahahah

[cursive nymph]

And he'll have some rubbish where tire explodes into his death bombs

[hearty lodge]

dopamine

[cursive nymph]

Or his death bombs are now tires

[errant vale]

Cant wait for the heat seeking bombs

[cursive nymph]

Heat seeking and they give fire and slowness and concussion mines literally give you a concussion

[cyan wraith]

hihi!! Anyone wanna play stadium in a bit? i main support. i can play mercy, kiriko, moira, and juno (less of juno since her nerfs.) im elite 5 dm me if u r interested:333 i cant vc but yaaa :p lmk!!

[fallow socket]

is chain evoker good? 5% doesnt seem like much but i see ppl literally abandoning all their weapon power 2nd round to buy chain evoker

for mercy

[hearty lodge]

Does Advanced Nanobiotics work with Lifesteal? (After healing an ally, gain 10% Attack Speed for 3s.)

Holy shirt it DOES work with lifesteal!

that's insane! imma start building it on reinhardt!

[shadow fjord]

wait self healing counts for that?

[hearty lodge]

Yeah, you count as an ally

It works with soldier's biotic field

[shadow fjord]

gonna have to try a few new builds now lol

[hearty lodge]

and Junker queen's passive

[sweet perch]

anyone with a wicked jq build?

i want to take the double carnage skill

but shout reset + shout applys bleed is SO good for round 3 and round 4

[grave pasture]

Wait what the fuck

[hearty lodge]

RIGHT???

[grave pasture]

That CANNOT be intended

that's insane

Does it work with gloomgauntlet?

Wait that means Reaper basically always wants to take it too, right?

[hearty lodge]

if you are good you take the shout reset into wounds like you said. If you are not, or maybe you think you'll be in a disadvantageous position against the enemy team's lineup, you take carnage, its not that complicated

[hearty lodge]

i didnt test it

[grave pasture]

I suppose I shall test it myself then

[hearty lodge]

i dont know if it'd work cause i think it says "regenerate'

kinda like how you passively regenerate hp after being out of combat for a while

[grave pasture]

only one way to find out

[hearty lodge]

yep!

ah, no, it says "restore"

so maybe?

[grave pasture]

It seems like it does

[hearty lodge]

oh neat!

so you can take it on Reinhardt at Round 3 without needing extra lifesteal

[grave pasture]

tested with Ana, Rein, and Soldier. may just be placebo but I'm pretty sure it's faster

[hearty lodge]

i used OBS to record it and see the exact time

[grave pasture]

hang on, I've got a clip of it

I'll just flick around with it to see

[hearty lodge]

cool, if you have a clip with gloomgauntlet and one without, you can know if its faster or not

[grave pasture]

I just have a clip where I fire, then punch, then fire again. But yeah should probably do that

[hearty lodge]

im not at home, otherwise i'd do it myself

[grave pasture]

Apparently exactly 60 frames at 60FPS to shoot 10 bullets normally with soldier, 55 frames with doom gauntlet

So yeah it works

[hearty lodge]

niceeeee

[ocean vessel]

what is the reaper and genji tech people keep talking about

[floral silo]

https://stadiumbuilds.io/browse is great for builds btw ! just a tip i wish i knew

[verbal stratus]

Ayyy! Thanks for sharing ❤️

[grave pasture]

Hold wraith during teleport or wall climb during deflect to store the mini-ult

[ocean vessel]

ohhhhh

[hearty lodge]

Bro, the insane carry i just had to do to win a match for blizzard to give me only 5% progress its insane, IN-SANE!!!

(Context, im Juno) My team was being pushed by the enemy junkerqueen on that egyptian map to the point they got stuck in spawn, so i decided to contest point since they only left their mercy to cap it. As im killing her, lucio comes around and i make the 1v2 killing both!
Since both supports were with me, my team now was able to kill the Junker Queen and come help me against the Soldier, who by the way, i was about to kill as well. i used terrain like my real life depended on making that clutch HOLY SMOKES!!!
AND THEN! That same round, next objective, same shit happens! im against Lucio and soldier this time as my team gets hella pushed by Junker and Mercy (and mei i guess) and im making the 1v2, MIND YOU IM PLAYING JUNO, i kill the lucio, i kill the soldier, mercy comes with the mei to revive the soldier, i kill mercy, my team FINALLY gets back and we make the round! (We were losing 0-2, and after that win it'd be 1-2)

Its finally Round 4, on 3 i powerspiked already but now i have a TON of cash thanks to the bounty system. i pray the lord as i buy my trusty Tommygun to pair the Mark of the Kitsune that carried me last round. I KID YOU NOT, i stomped that round SO HARD i was TRIPLE-ing the damage numbers of both my DPS. Holy crap i think im gonna take a fking break

Also, why on Earth am i still being paired with Elites and Contenders on my team?? Are there no All-Stars or Pros that could be on my team???

The matchmaking sucks so bad, and the progress bar is a joke how little it goes up and how much it goes down. Im talking +5% and -80% style of a joke

[neon galleon]

With Genji you can also use swift strike, all that matters is that Deflect gets canceled by something else. While it means both Reaper and Genji can use their mini ults whenever they want, the stored mini ult gets eaten if you don’t store the next mini ult, you HAVE to use mini ult first to access your actual ult, this is worse for Genji since you’re forced to go through the draw and sheathe animation for the single swing and then the draw animation of the actual ult. This also just makes Death Step significantly better as it means it’s not such a death sentence in the first few rounds. Also don’t hold the ult button when you have it ready and are teleporting in while you have death step, your actual ult will get eaten but it still does the mini ult

I DO think they should make the ult storage an actual feature, simply make something pop up on Reaper and Genji so everyone knows they have the stored mini ult and then put the mini ult on a timer until it automatically goes away and thus have to store it again. As for uses, I feel Genji’s is better to store during combat since swift strike can also cause it to get stored while Reaper’s is better to store when not in combat since your only way to store it is to use up your escape tool

[grizzled vector]

Does anyone have a Reinhardt build ?

[warm flint]

finally got all-star on support... if you 4-5stack around that rank the game just becomes something completely different, you just find 1-shots literally everywhere. cree 1-shots, ashe 1-shots, soldier rocket 1shots, rein firestrike 1-shots, shit becomes unreal

[grave pasture]

https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/61e132bf-f635-44f7-ac25-caae01003292

https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/31688652-5fcc-46a8-9851-721a1898ca6b

[grave pasture]

Those links are a firestrike based build and a brawler based build

[grave pasture]

Oh yeah, AP is absolutely nuts

[grizzled vector]

Thanks love

[warm flint]

you wanna play firestrike like all the time that you aren't against deflects, so orisa or genji, or both. if you're up against deflects you just play brawl

do not fall into the trap of playing shield, trust me

it's like the juno players that fall into the trap of playing weapon power. it is so not worth it. even after the juno nerfs, torps are like the most viable way to play still

[grave pasture]

Wait juno players actually try weapon power?

I thought that was a joke

[warm flint]

i ran into a couple yes, they got shitstomped

[grave pasture]

There's like

zero reason to ever go weapon power

because Stinger exists

[warm flint]

the nerfs were somewhat of a trap tbf, the devs literally said they wanted junos to experiment with other builds too. no thank you.

the funniest thing is you don't even feel the nerfs
the only nerf you actually feel is the coolant. and it's still so good you are gonna take it anyway...

[grave pasture]

I've not even really been taking coolant personally

I usually take Torpedo Plus followed by Blink Boots to pair with Tommygun

[warm flint]

i mean pulsar plus round 1, medicinal round 2 (personally, because in 5stacks you just have to prioritize keeping people alive), round 3 coolant every time. round 4 optional

[grave pasture]

Or Stinger depending on what I feel a tthe time

[warm flint]

i tend to go stinger on round 7 most of the time if it gets to that

i genuinely think people sleep on medicinal missiles so much it's insane

they're so underrated

hyper healer on round 7 is also kinda clutch

[grave pasture]

I'll give Med Miss a try next time I play her

[warm flint]

they aren't as good in uncoordinated play but they're extremely good in coordinated play and in specific situations, like aura farming soldier (rare but have seen a couple)

[hearty lodge]

Medicinal round 2?

Whats that

[warm flint]

Medicinal missiles power on round 3*

[hearty lodge]

Ah, now i get it

I guess its based on playstyle

But ive stomped my way to Allstars with Mark of the Kitsune and Blink Boosts

You dont even need that much AP, i build defensive items after getting the cores. There's a 4000$ survival rare that gives you 25 Overhealth after every ability. That + blink boosts + lock-on shield makes you immortal basically

[neon galleon]

Tbh a lot of the powers seem to only be good in coordinated play….if they are any good at all…looks at a few of Reaper’s powers

[neon galleon]

Yeah I find it weird that people don’t pick them as much, cause they genuinely help make up for the fact that most Junos focus on damage instead of healing. I have literally seen my JQ survive what was basically a 1v5 because I kept boosting her healing and healed her as much as I could. It got to the point that the enemy Rein kept trying to get me cause he realized that JQ was never gonna die at this rate as long as I was still firing torpedoes

[frozen gazelle]

shit players shouldnt touch the game

like idc about the challenges

dont queue tank

some dogass jq on my team

went 0-28 final match stats

unironically uncarryable

i was 24 or 23-2 before that

w/l

[fickle elbow]

you dont mess with carnage

[gusty saffron]

LET'S GOO

Also does ability power increase wounds damage and healing

[cold robin]

15 minutes and counting to get a game...

[errant vale]

Sounds like a support player

[soft sleet]

In yall's opinion, whats better build for Ash? AP or WP?

Ive been messing with those two and I honesly cant tell, ofc aim comes into play but take it in general uk, what's yall thoughts

[gusty saffron]

I'd say it depends on the enemy build

Like if they have a kiri whos dumping into suzu just go WO

WP

But if they're running it dow damage style

Or it's weak to poke

Go mix between WP and AP imo

[soft sleet]

Issue is the power matters here uk, which is what im trying to find a maybe good middle grouns

But yeah fair

[ember kettle]

Its. Not worth it.

Just go tommy 3 gun + mark of kitsune

It does what you want with weapon power but better without sacrificing torpedos worth

[grave pasture]

Oh I’m well aware it’s not worth it

I was just surprised that people actually try it

[ember kettle]

I mean logically it sounds fine mostly to melt tanks. Until you realize tommy 3 gun exists and only requires 1 shot from juno because its a 3 shot burst gun and you sacrifice your effectiveness with torpedos

[errant scarab]

does JQ axe count as melee damage

so it gets boosted by gloom gauntlet

[ember kettle]

Her axe is an ability

MELEE is your MELEE button

Which is her small knife

[errant scarab]

it boosts rein's primary fire though

[ember kettle]

Because his melee and primary fire is the same

He doesnt have a gun

Same for Brig when she gets added in season 18

They are the only 2 "full melee" characters in the game.

[errant scarab]

it's also known that melee damage goes through shields so idk

[ember kettle]

Junkers melee is the small knife.

[grave pasture]

I do find it interesting that rein specifically doesn’t have a quick melee

[ember kettle]

Could just test it in practice range.

Hit a dummy with your E with nothing on

By the power, then hit another dummy with your E again.

see if it does the same or more damage

Its what I would do but I am on WoW atm

[ember kettle]

It does not

Just tested it

Its only on the knife stab

[grave pasture]

Oh damn, they nerfed movement speed a bit

Also mini-Bob might actually be funny now

They hit Lifelift and Crowd Pleaser again too

[neon galleon]

Rein hammer and Dragon blade are the only things affected by both weapon damage and melee damage

[ember kettle]

@hearty lodge Does "while airborne" proc while you are slow falling?

Like if you double jump and slowfall with the jetpack?

Like I dont have to glide to make use of that boost?

Logically it should you are technically in the air

[grave pasture]

I mean you’re airborne so I don’t see why not

I think it probably just checks if you’re on the ground

[ember kettle]

I just wanna finish hitting pro on support to focus on dps or tank

[ember kettle]

Petition to please remove Illois from the game

Its such a bad fucking map

Literally juno can do nothing on it

Theres way too many slopes and cover compared to any other map in the game. Its just an auto lose for juno

[lilac venture]

@ember kettle if your skill relies on the map you're not as skilled as you think unfortunately

[ember kettle]

Thats. Not how that works.

[neon galleon]

Removal of map would remove the pit map too, petition denied

[ember kettle]

Maps 100% provide physical and noticable to sometimes detrimental disadvantages. And Illois is the biggest "screw you" to any long range line of sight character in the game.

[ember kettle]

Roadhog player

?

Or Lucio

Either way, understandable.

[neon galleon]

Hog, it makes it 10 times funnier when I pull an Orisa in

[ember kettle]

It would just remove the capture map from stadium. 😢

Cant she just... save fortify for when the hook lands to just bait it

I know most orisa's dont think that though and just reckllessly use it for the DR/armor than they do the CC immunity

[grave pasture]

In b4 Hog gets a power that lets him ignore CC immunity and buffs him when he pulls someone out of it

Actually what powers would hog even get

[neon galleon]

Yes, that’s why it’s 10 times funnier when they get hooked anyway. Cause they specifically went Orisa to AVOID getting hooked into the pit just to get hooked anyway

[neon galleon]

I could see him getting a power that brings back the Cyclops ult from the Mount Olympus event

Could see him getting another charge of his trap, maybe some extra hook range, definitely stuff to mess with his healing

[ember kettle]

Why s the game lagging so much today

[neon galleon]

Could also see…..the trap getting changed to be more instant damage instead of over time? I don’t know much about what they could do to his gun though

[ember kettle]

WOW 99%

ARE YOU SERIOUS GAME

I just had an 8k damage round as jun

But yeah did the game update today or something and its just having worse performance now?

I got this. Its fine... I got this.

[ember kettle]

We DID IT. I am Pro/Dia on support now.

[ember kettle]

(man y'all really proving my point. this chats dead if im not crashing out)

[hearty lodge]

Congratz man!

[ember kettle]

Basically full solo queue. Rough climb

[errant scarab]

aint no way they nerfed this shit without a patch note

[grave pasture]

There were patch notes

Let's Bounce - Power

Reduced Wall Slam damage to 25 (down from 40).
Reduced Knockback Increase to 25% (down from 30%).

[ember kettle]

Was gonna say "but there was"

Lucio got pretty sizable nerfs and some buffs to DPS

Dva got sizable buffs

Moira got some buffs

[ocean vessel]

NAUR

not lucio whyy

[silent tartan]

hey yall im making this website that has like good stadium builds and stuff and im trying to work on it rn if anyone wouldnt mind looking at it and giving me an honest review lol

[errant scarab]

bwuh

since when

[hearty lodge]

They didnt touch my girl Juno lets gooo hahahah

[ember kettle]

We already have 2.

[hearty lodge]

Link?

[ember kettle]

https://stadiumbuilds.io/
https://www.owbuildplanner.com/

[silent tartan]

kms

[silent tartan]

i mean😭 https://sites.google.com/view/ow2stadiumbuild/homepage?authuser=0

[hearty lodge]

Yoooo thats really cool for a 15yo

[silent tartan]

i mean it was kinda for myself atp if that other website works better

[hearty lodge]

Btw, I clicked on Damage Builds and it directed me to Tank Builds

[silent tartan]

oh shoot

uh

[hearty lodge]

I highly recommend stadiumbuilds.io

[silent tartan]

oh i just forgot to rename the tab

[hearty lodge]

But dont let other pages demotivate you from making your own if you want to!

[silent tartan]

ty

[hearty lodge]

Since literally, today apparently...

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/news/patch-notes/

They didnt touch ANY of the items or powers i was taking for Juno so im happy ☺️

And my Zarya build wasnt using those powers anyways so that's cool

AP Ashe is still the best kind of Ashe build, even more so now

Dva buffs arent gonna suddenly make her meta relevant. Those are quality of life changes that should've been there already

[ember kettle]

Infa lost 5% more damage to burning

But bob got a massive buff

30% more attack speed for bob jr

Bros gonna be a machine gun

[hearty lodge]

Lucio nerfs are harddddd tho

Lucio stocks are going DOWN 👇

[ember kettle]

I mean. KInda deserved

[ember kettle]

The only way she should be getting touched is if im spre--- I mean...

She doesnt need any more nerfs. Shes fine where she is.

[hearty lodge]

S ... Spre...?

Im scared to start thinking what word that could be

Lowkey, the most fun ive had in this mode has been with Juno and Reinhardt

Im hoping Freja becomes my first fun to play DPS

[ember kettle]

Spreading them asscheeks. That is where I was going.

[ember kettle]

See I have Ashe for this. So I am already set dps wise

[hearty lodge]

Nice

I had Mei but then they changed boulder

Now it doesnt kidnap prople 🥲

[ember kettle]

Good

THat shit was annoying

[hearty lodge]

OH SHIT

They didnt touch the reaper or genji ult bugs!!!

I just realized

What the fuck blizzard

I genuinely want them to make it a legal tech tho. But at least address it!

Make a statement or sth

[hearty lodge]

If a bug is fun and easily replicable, should it be deleted? 🤔

It doesnt break the immersion of the game either like clipping through walls would do

[ember kettle]

I wouldnt say an exploit for more damage than normal is fun

[vital surge]

fun when you're a natural contender 5 mmr haha

[empty blaze]

whats the division difference when you try to play in a group? do all players need to be in the same division or within 1 division of each other?

[hearty lodge]

there is no difference

[main jungle]

Finally elite (or higher) on all roles! Next up is all-star

[hearty lodge]

Pro: am i a joke to you?

[ember kettle]

Bro skipping from plat to master

Bros a god clearly

He dont need diamond

[main jungle]

I'm already pro on support...

[hearty lodge]

"Finally elite (or higher) on ALL ROLES!"

sorry i got confused

[main jungle]

Tried third person on Genji for the first time, works great on him, but still don't like it for most of the cast

[hearty lodge]

DUDE

im so tired of having literally no team at all

last round i ended up on 15k damage, 20 kills. My team had 2~3 kills and about 2.5k damage for both DPS

IM JUNO, HOW IS THE SOLDIER AND REAPER DOING SO BAD

the enemies had like 4.5k damage and 7~8 kills, it wasnt even that bad of a fight!

How in the world. did we lose. WITH A ZARYA AGAINST A DVA FOR GODS SAKE

Oh... wait nevermind, my zarya was Novice rank

let me rephrase the rant... ehem...

WHY AM I BEING PAIRED WITH NOVICES ON MY TEAM BLIZZARD!?!??!?!!

[ember kettle]

D.va keeps getting buffs against zarya and mei. So not surprised she can put up more of a fight. Esp since beams hitting armor now count as mitigated defense matrix numbers.. Which then benefits the healing for damage mitagted by matrix . and she can still get 65% less beam dmg when matrix is up. Etc.

So even if it wasnt novice. I could see a better d.va being fine.

We just need d.vas to realize they arent dps and to please build tank

[azure obsidian]

Made it to elite on support:) gotta work my way up though. You guys/gals/omnics in higher ranks are really good.

[hearty lodge]

the enemy dva wasnt even buying the items to fight zarya

she never bought the item that gives her reduced damage against beams

[hearty lodge]

thanks for including omnics, finally an omnic of culture

[azure obsidian]

Of course! We are all one in the Iris

[main jungle]

I'm so sick of fighting rein 6 or 7 times in a row. I play Genji and I feel like I can't do anything into him

[errant vale]

Poke genji with the 5 shot perk, salvaged slugs and that ignore armor item

[fickle elbow]

when i do a jq bleed build with ability power should i prioritize lifesteal, cooldown reduction, or ability power?

ive been doing lifesteal and cooldown but im noticing ability power gets me way more health than lifesteal

[hearty lodge]

Mhm, yeah, i agree. Lucio should be removed from the game

[sweet perch]

ability power

you mainly heal by applying wounds

and you heal by a % of the damage you do with wounds

so big ability power = big wounds = big heal

also if you go ability power things die quickly so you dont have to take more dmg

[hearty lodge]

Yep, you have 225% lifesteal on Wounds by default. No need to add more lifesteal on top

[fickle elbow]

wow really? guess ive been doing it wrong all this time

and still dominated almost every game

goes to show how op jq is

also does the shout through walls synergize with the shout bleeds enemies power up?

like do you bleed enemies through walls with shout?

[hearty lodge]

Booming Voice?

It says it affects allies out of sight

[fickle elbow]

i know but im not sure if it says allies for the sake of simplicity and its just an area of effect thing that now affects enemies too

[hearty lodge]

I cant test it rn

But since it says allies im gonna assume its not enemies

But its worth testing it, sometimes weird shit happens

Like, for example, the power that makes shout apply wounds on enemies has it written as if only worked within 12m

But with Booming Voice's 50% increased radius on shouts you can actually extend that range to 18m

And it still applies wounds is what im trying to say

Some stuff is poorly written so maybe??? Its worth testing

[neon galleon]

It also boosts your ability power by 25% so you should be grabbing it anyway

[hearty lodge]

Is it 25?

I thought it was 15%

Oh right, it JUST got nerfed lmao 😂😅

It WAS 25% yesterday

[neon galleon]

Meh, still pretty much a must grab since it’s one of the highest ability power boosts

[hearty lodge]

Honestly? Just for the radius increase its already worth it

I wouldnt rush it but id definetly buy it on round 3

[fickle elbow]

oh it got nerfed? damn that sucks

[hearty lodge]

Lucio went from 200% healing on boops to 100%. And Mei lost her kidnapping boulder

It could've been worse for JQ

Its fine

[fickle elbow]

did they nerf cass at least

[grave pasture]

No

Ashe was the only DPS touched, and they buffed Head Honcho and Mini Bob while fixing and nerfing Infared Lenses

[neon galleon]

I mean technically speaking Infrared is at a net neutral cause before only Bob and Viper got the damage boost but now everything Ashe does gets it, which could also include the burn damage that started it-

Could start seeing a bunch of ability power Ashes use Incendiary Blast and double coach gun charges to just absolutely take chunks out of an entire group of enemy. As for the nerfs, I don’t think they’re going to be enough to absolutely knock them off their top positions, Lucio might be a little less common but they didn’t touch the power that lets you do a mini sound barrier every time you use amp it up. Ability power Dva though definitely got a nice boost in power so it’ll be interesting to see how well that playstyle could do now

[ember kettle]

me and @hearty lodge was already talking and testing the AP Ashe even before the changes

Mark of Kitsune AP Ashe is disgusting.

Like 180 damage in a single shot on round 3

• Dynamites are strong because you are AP
• Bob is strong because you are AP
• Mark of Kitsune AP means you can do that upwards of 180+ damage per shot after a coach gun shot as early as round 3 meaning you dont sacrifice weapon damage.

Ashes 2 builds before was either super accurate and reliant on weapon power which made bob and dynamites eh ontop of it being single target focused and and slow TTK.
Or put everything into dynamites and bob so if people just... walked away from dynamite or hid from bob was essentially useless.

Mark of Kitsune Coach Gun is the answer. It allows Ashe to do what she wants to do perfectly.

[neon galleon]

And now that both burn damage and Incendiary Blast’s instant damage could potentially benefit from infrared, that damage is a lot stronger, even with the slight damage nerf it got

[grand grotto]

Does anyone have a good orisa build

[ember kettle]

Alll of them.

Glad I helped

Be free padawan

Orisa is broken

[grand grotto]

🧢

Zarya can totally counter

[ember kettle]

Broken doesnt mean uncounterable

Everyones got a counter.

[neon galleon]

I mean Zarya is partly a counter cause her beam bypasses Spin, which a single item makes irrelevant

[errant vale]

A overheat build has great meme potential

[grand grotto]

Ok

[neon galleon]

You could also do a full bulk build on her but I’ll be completely honest that’s just ASKING for the enemy team to completely ignore you and save you for last

[ember kettle]

Ult Spam build is prob the best build ive seen on her

Press E run at their face, get ult every 10 seconds, ult drops amplifiers

[glad zephyr]

i just reached elite as mercy and under the stadium division legend it says "earn an elite skin the first time you reach the elite league with each role" i didnt get a skin, am i dumb or did i do smth wrong orrrr

[sterile kelp]

Really enjoying stadium but struggling. Moira main and losing 4 out of 5 games :( Comes to a point I cant blame my team anymore. Reached Elite 4 and dropped down to Contender 2

Always have lowest earnings in teh game too, idk what to do

[ember kettle]

Whats your damage/healing looking like on average

And what build are you going

[neon galleon]

Ehh, I feel like that’s more of a late game addition to the build you’re already doing than a do it for the whole game kind of thing

[ember kettle]

Funny we would be winning this game right now if this 76 wasnt an idiot and went the helaing field upgrade

annnd round 3 he got another healing field upgrade

can the healing field upgrades just be removed fromm the game

Tired of losing games because a 76 went this shit instead of aim bot

Meanwhile juno is just 1v1ing me because shes permanently flying and gets 192381902380912 3shields and auto aiming nukes on her shoulders and not a single dps can out damage her

and junker just runs at us

Having to play my ass off

We won that just barely

[neon galleon]

Tbf Queen is probably gonna do that even with everyone playing their best

[ember kettle]

THe second I got minibob and cybervenom online

The junker couldnt do shit

I was putting out too much burning and anti heal for them to fight.

[zinc root]

stadium dva bugs:

1. the free micro missiles you get from absorbing damage with defence matrix do not scale from ability power
2. Hardlight Accelerator epic item does not work on D.va at all.

[noble hamlet]

someone please tell me if this cass was trolling or just genuinely this ass at the game replay code: TME0WF final scoreboard: https://imgur.com/WPuIqm7

he made me absolutely furious

most rounds he went 0 8 700 dmg

[zinc root]

i dont see the scoreboard

[noble hamlet]

posted wrong screenshot

try again

this was him in the best round

this one round i had 20x his dmg

we lost that btw

thanks to him

[zinc root]

unlucky go next

[noble hamlet]

i did like 5 matches today

all of them were like this

absolutely garbage people on my team

i dont understand this matchmaking

[zinc root]

i'll watch, but honestly whether he trolled or not, cant let it get to you or else you'll start playing worse yourself

[noble hamlet]

when i check their profiles they are maybe high gold in comp

[ember kettle]

Meh just go next

[noble hamlet]

tbh yeah

but also annoying when stadium games are like 30 mins

[ember kettle]

I just hard carried my soldier on a few rounds we won with me doing like 6k damage to his 1k

[noble hamlet]

one round

i did 21k he did like 800 dmg

[ember kettle]

Who are you playing

[zinc root]

yea this replay is just the last round

[noble hamlet]

zarya

wait you can check scoreboards in replays now?

[zinc root]

he just looks not that good. maybe doesnt play cass much. probably grouped with your other dps considering their names are kinda matching

and there're no grouping restrictions in stadium

[noble hamlet]

HFWV2F

[noble hamlet]

i just want some actual overwatch gameplay for once man

i have this same thing in comp

maybe one in 5 matches i get paired with actual ok players

[ember kettle]

I do think this is a bit stupid.
For both ways.
You either get a pro+ frend to hard carry in novice
Or a novice friend ends up in a pro+ game and does nothing

Which is just..... not fun either way it goes

Im trying to climb in dps solo queue but I am 90% sure people think my ashe is smurfing lmao

[cold robin]

It's crazy how long the queue times are. I like Stadium, but 15 minute queue times are just silly

[zinc root]

there''s a psychological effect where if you go looking for something (my teammates will be bad), then you'll find it

[ember kettle]

Depends on rank and role.

The higher your rank, the less pool of players to pick from

This goes for any game

[noble hamlet]

what

[zinc root]

it's the same as QP. but also... neither Novice nor Rookie are real ranks

[cold robin]

for me, support queue times are 15 minutes usually

[ember kettle]

I'm in pro support and queue times are still on average like 3m

Unless its late at night

[noble hamlet]

how did y'all climb stadium this quick

im still stuck in high contender/low elite

[zinc root]

getting to Pro, is literally just a progression grind

[ember kettle]

What rank are you?

[zinc root]

you get way more points for wins than you lose for losses

[noble hamlet]

ive been stuck in contender on tank since stadium got added

i lose more than i win

[ember kettle]

Even with this it was rough for me lmao

[noble hamlet]

i just always get people like this

[ember kettle]

Solo queue is a bitch

[zinc root]

how many games total? and the hidden MMR is always aiming to put you in "even" matches, so over time you'll get 50% win rate, and then you'll climb to Pro no matter wahat

[cold robin]

I don't remember the names. It's also skill based mtach najubg, not stadium rank. I'm plat in comp

[noble hamlet]

ok its not that many tbf

60

[hidden atlas]

u guys play 3rd or 1st person?

[ember kettle]

3rd and only 3rd.

[noble hamlet]

1st

[zinc root]

honestly that's gonna be partly on your mentality. if you go in tilted, and go in thinking you're gonna have a bad teammate, then you're gonna spend too much energy looking at what your teammates are doing and judging them, and not enough energy on paying attention to what you're doing, or even how you can adapt to help your team / adapt vs the other team. not every game is winnable, but you'll win more close games if you focus more on what you're doing and how you can improve in the moment and long term

[noble hamlet]

its impossible to win a 4v5 when the other team is decently coordinated

unless you're like smurfing as a master in a plat lobby

[ember kettle]

I just did it

A few times

[zinc root]

so coordinate with your team. and yea some games you arent gonna win... tough luck, go next

[ember kettle]

Hell one of the games I got to pro with on juno I had like 8k damage to my teams 4k

[hidden atlas]

every time i see play of the game it is in 3rd person. is it cause the person plays like that? or cause thats how its set ihn stadium?

[ember kettle]

[ember kettle]

It shows the pov and recticle and controls of who ever is the play of the game.

[hidden atlas]

wtf everyone i saw had 3rd person

how can u even play like that

[hidden atlas]

why?

[ember kettle]

Its better in every way possible?

[hidden atlas]

i mean yeah ucan see more

but

[zinc root]

pretty sure it uses the view setting the player used

[hidden atlas]

its so uncomfortable

[ember kettle]

And its the main selling point in why I am even playing stadium. I didnt come back for other modes

[zinc root]

my dva highlight is 1stP

[hidden atlas]

.

[zinc root]

im glad you like it, but this is objectvely false. it messes up zoom ADS aiming on ana and ashe because it moves the aim point

[ember kettle]

It is not though.

[zinc root]

it is

[ember kettle]

You dont zoom on ashe or ana in stadium first off

Rarely ever.

[zinc root]

lol ok

[ember kettle]

That lowers your hps and time to kill so drastically uch

much

Esp when ana's 2 best builds are either sleep dart, or spam unscoped shots with 18290381203 mag size and fire rate

[zinc root]

i mean it can be played 3p on any hero, and is perfectly usable, and you get some advantage (looking around corners, better awareness, etc), but it's not objectively better in every way

[ember kettle]

https://youtu.be/hsdQsFxQXeE?si=LgBc_6YOg3Mr0Q2T

A video comparison in saying why 3rd is better and why people "feel" 1st is better when its not.

I play ashe and shes better in 3rd persn

[zinc root]

you like it better. that's subjective

[zinc root]

you dont get "free hits"

it's just an illusion from the camera angle being offset from the bullet trajectory

[cold robin]

I'm elite 1, but that doesn't matter for matchmaking

How about they make stadium 1 tank, 2 dps, 3 supports

[zinc root]

in fact at 3:04 he explains how the sensitivity is uneven, and if he's correct, that's objectively worse than 1P

[ember kettle]

Yes it does lmao

[cold robin]

to cut down queue times

[ember kettle]

You are not getting 15 minute queue times in elite.

LMAO

[cold robin]

Yes I am

[ember kettle]

Bro you are not

[zinc root]

bro he probably is

why wouldnt you believe him

[cold robin]

And your stadium rank doesn't matter for matchmaking

[zinc root]

^^^^

stadium rank is literally cosmetic

[cold robin]

Your matching making is based on skill rating, not stadium rank

[cold robin]

Because he didn't have long queues at that rank

is my guess

[ember kettle]

The only time I was getting queues above 5m+ was because it was late at night

[zinc root]

i guess so... pretty irrational to have that reason

ok, and?

[ember kettle]

God I wish mark of kitsune showed on the ablity bars for a buff

[zinc root]

eh... it's only for your next, single weapon shot... id prefer if Three-Tap Tommygun showed

but for both of them, some characters burn through that buff extremely fast... so it probably feels pointless to have it

what they neex to fix is Hardlight Accelerator not showing for Dva... maybe it's actually completely bugged and doesnt work oh, yea it just doesnt work at all on dva

[cold robin]

they should show all temp buffs tbh

[zinc root]

they might run into UI clutter

[ember kettle]

Pressing fan the hammer with 48 bullets feels illegal

[ember kettle]

not really. Theres few temporary buffs and they just put it in the buttom iddle or where the ability bar is like they do with ones that are already tracked

[oak aspen]

Never let me touch a controller again

[neon galleon]

Why do I feel like without attack speed increases or cooldown reductions that combat roll could potentially fully recharge before you fire the final bullet-

[grave pasture]

Oh they re-added Heartbeat Sensor

[neon galleon]

I noticed it was back yesterday

[ember kettle]

With 43 bullets, the fan the hammer lasts until thel ast second of of the cd

Tanks do not exist

I wanna see how it interacts with the rein shield with the ammo restore on hitting shields/barriers or what ever lmao

[grave pasture]

If I'm against a rein I always take it

Even if I'm not maxing on ammo

[ember kettle]

Round 1: Full House
Round 3 : Dead Man Walking

Focus on getting Ammo Reserves, Stockpile, Commandos Grip.
Then start building the normal weapon power items.
Just get critical hits and press fan the hammer.

Might as well be a bastion wearing a poncho. You are no longer mcree

Genuinely feels like it should be illegal that a 6 round revolver can fan the hammer 43-48 bullets

And its not even un impractical build.

Maybe I been misunderstanding him

[hidden atlas]

do u get more competitive points if u have win streak?

[ember kettle]

Dont think so

[neon galleon]

You do

Also Wolfie, I did some tests with Ashe, Infrared, and Incendiary Blast, once you get high enough Ability Power, well my earlier theory about Incendiary Blast I think was correct-

[hidden atlas]

awesome thanks

[ember kettle]

Oh I know it was The burst is disgusting

Like if you can get a close enough shot with it. You can set dynamite down at your feet to light them on fire before doing the blast and they just pop

Also trying ap genji more... Laceration needs buffs

Weapon Power still feels the best on him

And I dont mean dragon blade reflect spam. I mean shurikens.
His shuriken build throws out the best DPS he has

I mean I guess the benefit isnt the single target damage for laceration. Its the aoe damage going through the enemy teams

Would you say Zarya's best build is ability power and spamming shields? I know weapon power is good but I feel like its just. Inferior to ability power in every way.

[neon galleon]

I just got an Ana that didn’t know how to properly position…

[ember kettle]

Wish I could change the CD for toki slam

Oh I can

Its just the crouch button

I dont melee on d.va so i'll just change my quick melee off of m4 for crouch on her.

[ember kettle]

It happens.

Toki Slam having a height limit makes it super clunky

[neon galleon]

And now a Lucio that didn’t understand how to Lucio…

[ember kettle]

Yeeah for sure AP Zarya is the best build

makes her shields for allys stronger
The volskaya power is insane.
And gives insane aoe potential on ult

Shield, ult, right clikc. Now everyones sucked into to graviton while a volskaya vortex is melting them

Funny enough.
out of the 5 tanks.
The 2 tanks you dont actually build tank on.
Are the best tanks for solo queue.

Junker Queen goes full AP and AP Lifesteal Voice Spam and Axe throwing and just provides such a massive presence with damage and self sustain it has to be answered.

Zarya can bubble spam her team and is good at setting her team up for success.

[ember kettle]

Whats your build on Moira? I've done a lot of testing but I honestly prefer weapon power.

I'll get a single orb perk/power just but the rest is usually built around weapon power

Round 1 Start
Chain Grasp with Weapon Power / Ability Power / First Aid Kit

You throw healing orb then hold M2 to chain damage enemies to farm damage to get money in both ways.

Round 3 I try to have Cross Orbal so I can throw healing orbs and damage orbs at the same time with Smart Orbs for the ability power + slow speed to get more healing/damage per cast.

Then try to get Amaris Antidote + Precarious Potency for the massive weapon power and healing over time on people hit by your m1. Etc.

Chain Grasp + Cross Orbal is really helpful so you dont need to use damage orbs. Only have to use healing orbs

Prob can get subatomic splitter and extendrils too for more range on the orbs and your chain grasp

It ends up being a pretty hybrid build, but with more focus on weapon power.
Like phantasmal flux is perfect like FINAL item on it

[civic oxide]

how tf does zarya benefit from ability power

[ember kettle]

Her shields scale on ability power plus her aoe slow pulse after using a shield

I explained all that already

[neon galleon]

Also Graviton Surge actually does deal damage

And if you get Graviton Anomaly….that bit of damage Graviton Surge normally does actually becomes impactful

Also you know how Fortify is affected by Ability Power? It specifically scales 1 to 1, meaning 120 ability power gives you…..120 more overhealth-

[ember kettle]

The vortex combo with ult on zarya fucking hurts

The ult them to pull them in to the massive pulsing vortex right click

Like jesus

Fuck weapon power when ability power does that much with alot less effort while being a team player

[neon galleon]

I mean technically speaking you’d probably want at least superflexor since it means your weapon will just make your abilities do even more

[ember kettle]

I mean maybe. But it just depends on where you get it. You have other priorities

Like getting lynx datadrive and superconductor on asap

for barrier refreshing and duration increases

Also do abilities for things like that snapshot?

Im not noticing a big difference with or without it stacked

You are better off getting unconditional ap

So just found out. The pulsing damage from Volskaya Vortex, ignores shields.

like. Rein shield and such

Which makes this even better

[ember kettle]

Uuuum.... I think I found something out thats kinda broken. @hearty lodge @neon galleon

has to do with moira

her "ethereal excision" power to aim at enemies heads. Counts every shot as a "critical" even when aiming at the floor

Which means she gets INSANE value from Closer. The 20 WP + 10 Crit Damage

[hushed jewel]

They’ve gotta fix the glitch where you can see the enemy teams selections before the round starts

[ember kettle]

Not seen that yet

[hushed jewel]

It’s when you select a character and it loads you in instead of waiting

I’ve gotten hard countered twice as dva because of it

Not to mention the constant game crashing

I got banned because of it

[ember kettle]

Its not as much of a hard counter now

They keep buffing her against beam characters

That if you genuinely believe you are hard countered, you are building and playing wrong.

[hearty lodge]

I missdirect them with another pick

Its funny but i agree it should be fixed

[hushed jewel]

I went against a zarya, Moira, and mei

I countered the best I could

Got the beam mitigation but for some reason mei doesn’t count as a beam

Also rude

[hearty lodge]

There are some games that were simply unwinnable from the start

You just gotta accept that and give it your best so when there's a winnable game you dont fumble

[cursive nymph]

It's not like a glitch persay

The game puts you into a lobby though while you wait for players to load in

And if you select the hero you plan on playing that game

They'll see it

[ember kettle]

Let them

Just play better

[cursive nymph]

In theory you could select like rein there and they probably won't go zarya

[ember kettle]

No one goes in purposely trying to counter pick lmao

[cursive nymph]

Yea

[ember kettle]

They just pick what they wanna play

[cursive nymph]

Agreed

Or JQ cause meta

Have you seen these yet lol

[hushed jewel]

Love the invalidation

[cursive nymph]

Hmm

[ember kettle]

I put ashes win rate on people not figuring out that mark of kitsune calamity/blast ashe is better than rounds + dynamite combined

I found out already. I was already in the kitchen and cooked and have been having a massive boost of success and kill pressure since figuring it out

But the general populace havent and are still going off of example builds

Same with Dvas

Dvas are still playing and building wrong

Junker Queen as well could be victim of wrong build. But her AP build is genuinly insane and not worth the 48% win rate

[hearty lodge]

https://youtu.be/tZUZ45uX1KE?si=6t6IUp_nhCpwKkgs

Oh hel yeah!!!!

[cursive nymph]

She's also just

Worse overall than soldier or cass

They just have better powers and items

[hearty lodge]

Her kit is a desinged flaw for how much movement there's in this mode

She works really well in normal overwatch because people arent moving like crazy on the sky all day long

[neon galleon]

You know I tried using that and I didn’t really notice a damage difference in the practice range

[ember kettle]

I noticed a difference but I might be delusional. Idk

It would be a final round 7 item

Even if it did work tat way

[stark cloud]

Zarya build?

[errant scarab]

why they have to keep making a patch once or twice a week to nerf the fun stuff

i can barely abuse the meta long enough to get juno skin

[hearty lodge]

DUDE

WTF

I LOST 80% FOR HAVING 2 AFK

i understand losing points, BUT WHY 80%??? When i win im only going up by like 5%

and its not even on a match i had control of, it was completely out of my control to win a 3v5 after a guy disconects at the start of round 2, and another mid round 2

[ember kettle]

https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/74bb1bd9-c41a-4e93-ab1b-1547ba3a9eb9 Prob could be updated after the nerfs, but this still works.
The nerfs didnt target her AP side of things. Mostly just her Lifelift power this build doesnt even use.

[ember kettle]

Yeeeah

[ember kettle]

Because theres fun to play, then theres fun to play against.

Just dont abuse the meta and just get good at the game? Lmao

[hearty lodge]

kidnapper Mei was so fun...

[ember kettle]

Yeah that build in particular, can go jump off a bridge

I fucking hate that power in general

"yea ima just spam bump you and you cant say or do shit about it because im completely invul and cant be stopped out of it"

Though even with that power. I still think ability power meis a trap

and not the good kind of trap either

[ember kettle]

So I have come to the conclusion

Im looking at Mccrees ult

Entirely wrong

Its a kill ult. Not a team wipe ult.

If I can execute 1 or 2 of the healers since they charge the quickest to kill with it. Fire.
Dont try to team wipe for it.

[neon galleon]

I was about to ask if you realized it’s massive area denial potential-

[ember kettle]

They hear it, they have to panick, figure out where the fuck you are, try to take cover for like 8 seconds.
And depending on how you position, you are gurenteed to atleast kill 1 if not both of the healers.

And if you can kill even 1 healer, the chances of winning the fight drastically increases

Its not meant to be a team wipe button Hence why it takes so long to 1 shot a tank with it because of their high hp pool

Already realized earlier I have been underutilizing and not giving enough respect to the burst potential of Fan the Hammer

This goes for normal games too. Not just stadium

[neon galleon]

Even with its potential for support picks, you can still get value off the ult from just simply making the enemy not even attempt to get to something important simply because they don’t know if they’ll be able to get out of your los or stun you out of your ult in time. Very possible to just win a game off of no one daring to get in view long enough to touch the objective

[mossy storm]

how do i build ashe

i built her AP on my only ashe game but it didnt work out very well

[ember kettle]

You didnt build her the right kind of AP

👍

You prob built for dynamites

https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/9e38ab77-1e0e-486d-9dd6-316f803eaf8e @mossy storm

[mossy storm]

i built her for bob jr.

[ember kettle]

yes but did you go the coach gun powers and mark of kitsune?

[mossy storm]

ohu what

ohhh ic

interesting

[ember kettle]

I cooked it up, rey did some maths and testings to try to get a build path guide thing up

This is her best of all worlds build as I call it

Dyanamites hurt, mark of kitsune building on all that ap + coach gun use lets you as early as round 3 doing like 200 damage a shot

[mossy storm]

curious

this will help in getting mvp

[ember kettle]

Esp if you go incedary blast over the calamity, you get bob jrs super fast

Since you can press coach gun and set everyone in a 20m cone infront of you on fire.

Or you can use it to burst someone.
Throw dynamite, epxlode it in their face, then coach gun to burst them

I will say 2 tips for this build.

1. Blowing up dynamite early WILL use the mark of kitsune damage bonus so you dont get that extra burst on someone
2. You do not have to scope on this build. Unscoped and just blast people

[mossy storm]

wait why would blowing up dynamite use mark?

isnt mark for weapon damage?

[ember kettle]

It counts your next shot, regardless of it being hitting an enemy

[mossy storm]

ahhh ic

ok i got ashe, JQ and zarya left for MVP

[ember kettle]

Well trust me. Follow that build I linked

If you wanna do more aoe burning damage and get ult faster, blast is better than calamity. But they both work

The dynamite burst though I like to do on tanks with blast.

Throw dynamite, blow it up in their face for that damage, then you coach gun to burst them with that, then hit them with mark of kitsune.

Let me know how that game goes for ye @mossy storm

[mossy storm]

im qing tank + dps and somehow i keep getting tank

currently doing a zarya game

[ember kettle]

Super easy one to get a win on

[mossy storm]

idk im kinda struggling for some reason

[ember kettle]

Let me guess. Going weapon power?

Zarya your goal is to go ap, spam shield your dps and team

You can do damage yourself, but your main job is to shield and enable your DPS.

[mossy storm]

curious, i see

welp im currently going full DPS and

seems ok?

2-2 rn

[ember kettle]

Funny enugh the 2 tanks you have left are imho the 2 best solo queue tanks .

And they are the only 2 tanks that really wanna build for damage

For one reason or another.

[mossy storm]

and those are the tanks i dont rly play 😭

[ember kettle]

Zarya's is to help enable her team with shields.

[mossy storm]

well, i play rein less than zarya but JQ? never touched

[ember kettle]

Junker builds ap and ap lifesteal for a different reason

She does it to be entirely selfish and just bleed lfesteal and get 30k damage and healing a round

https://stadiumbuilds.io/build/4a22be1f-a941-4476-94db-64aaf91157d4

The junker build

[mossy storm]

im currently 61k money

and everyone else in the game is below 50k 😭

[ember kettle]

It will be like that.

[mossy storm]

aaaand were going to round 7

[ember kettle]

Just means its a good game

Both teams are even

Id rather have a round 7 loss over a round 3-4 win

Yeah a win is a win. But a stomp is boring. On both sides.

[mossy storm]

PHEW

i won

90k money

potg

GOD zarya is fun

only 2 heroes left

ashe and jq

[ember kettle]

Might have to cook again.... theres a power I been interested on for kiriko

[mossy storm]

i wanna say "after i get mvp im not touching stadium for a while" but god theres a lot i wanna do

[ember kettle]

I want to try altering the suzu build on kiriko to make use of the clones

[mossy storm]

lmao im playing ashe but i have zarya in bottom left xd

[ember kettle]

Lmao watching the kiri clone go ham on the kitsune rush is hilarious

[mossy storm]

dang this ashe build is actually very fun

in fact ashe herself is really fun wtf?

[ember kettle]

I told you to trust me

[mossy storm]

wait i won

HOLY SHIT I ONLY HAVE JQ LEFT

damn i even got potg

but potg in stadium is broken and only shows last map, sadly

[ember kettle]

Holy shit wait have I never tried the foxy fireworks on kiriko

Do I just... pass over it

This is actually disgusting. And it can headshot

Every Kiriko build is fun

Foxy Fireworks could help me make money round 1-2 like I struggle with on kiriko as wel

Shoot 3x, reload, shoot 3 times
get all those explosive kunais going out for damage

[mossy storm]

holy shit JQ is fun??? im so aggressive and it works??

[ember kettle]

You following the junker build I sent?

[mossy storm]

yep

[ember kettle]

Welcome to junker
You spam shift on cd because the elims reset and perma bleed and lifesteal everything.

She is THE aggressive tank.
You press W and yell at the enemies and you are literally too angry to die. In every sense of the phrase.

I love how kiriko is prob one of the few characters with not a single bad build or power... yet shes not overpowered at all

Her suzu can be annoying if you play debuffs, but those debuff characters have things that benefit from her cleansing them like faster ult gain or overhealth

Shes like the Landorus / Great Tusk of Stadium.

Just throw her in there, and shes going to work.

[mossy storm]

i just junker ulted into the abyss

...while nanoed

[ember kettle]

10/10

[mossy storm]

GOD JUNKER QUEEN IS SO FUN WHAT

i love stadium and the mvp challenge
makes me find out that i actually enjoy a lot of characters in this game

and we're 3-0 lmao

AND WE WON

wait this means...

I GOT MVP

[hearty lodge]

congratz!

[ember kettle]

Whys kiri just the lando therian/great tusk of stadium.

Every builds just good

[mossy storm]

now that im done with mvp... idk what to do D:

[ember kettle]

Grata

[ember kettle]

Do what ever you want. You are free now.

[mossy storm]

Finally...

time to play JQ and ashe in comp

cuz apparently they're fun, and mvp made me realize that

[hushed jewel]

Ashe’s win rate is absolutely abismal

[mossy storm]

i tried a build that went full AD on the items but went suzu powers
so i had decent healing/damage while still having suzus whenever i need em
that was fun, got me the win i needed

[ember kettle]

If you went suzu like that you would have stuck to ap

Because of the suzu overhealth on healing

So you can cleanse invul and big heal at the same time

[mossy storm]

i think i just went keen kunai and two-zu

[ember kettle]

Already said it earlier. The stats are not true to how the games actually working bc people are still playing and building alot of characters out right wrong. Ashe being one of them.

[cursive nymph]

Cass weapon power build is so simple and strong man

[ember kettle]

Dont just blanket listen to win rates.

Esp in a new gamemode that overwatch players arent use to

[hearty lodge]

she's not that good tho

[hearty lodge]

oh, there see? kiri's not that good lmao

also wtf

i know ashe sucks but damn!

that's low...

[mossy storm]

stadium is essentially a moba, people need time to figure out what to build

[hushed jewel]

If they fixed the matchmaking it wouldn’t be that big of an issue

But you’ve got brand new players playing with people who have played stadium since launch

[acoustic kiln]

i saw the uh

power where you gain overhealth for you and your team if you fade as moira

completely built around it

it is an interesting build to say the least

wouldnt call it better than AP moira but its sure as hell fun

[regal mango]

hey wolfie!

i hit pro 5 with the stupid nerfed torpedos build lol

im not sure if its losing value or if im just playing badly the last few days

still have a 70% winrate with pretty solid stats/10min

[void pawn]

they destroyed the lucio instakill and healing builds

but they buffed the damage healing power to 30%

so now attack lucio build will emerge

[regal mango]

looks like it

im v sad

as a moba player i love using abilities as my primary tool

i just hope the stinger build doenst get popular bc they might come for hte torpedo build again, still feels v potent despite the nerfs just due to how easy it is to execute

i dont want them to nerf the hybrid build

that being said ive been messing around with torpedo glide and cosmic coolant and its so.... marginal