#stadium-discussion

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remote roost
pale dock
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theres a whole issue w the stadium servers rn i think you might wanna cool it for a bit

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idk whats going on

void pawn
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o

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i might have to start changing my lucio loadout since the lucio double boop instant kill doesnt really work against people who put lots of points into HP

proven thorn
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Yeah I’m concerned as someone who routinely plays comp modes a lot for the titles.

To go from pro - legend, assuming I had a win loss of 60% and that the required stadium points to rank up don’t change (I suspect it will get even harder) you’d be doing 270 hours a season to get to go from pro to legend

void pawn
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damn

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i mean dont forget about winning trend

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and im still on consolidation even in pro 5

proven thorn
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My consolidation has stopped in pro 5 even with my winrate still sitting at 80% so idk where they’re getting that from

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Again winning trends hopefully carry you a lot higher but at 60% winrate I didn’t add them to the maths since you probably win one or two then it gets cancelled out by a loss

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I need to play more to get a better read but again I’m noticing my MMR settling and dropping me in M-T500 lobbies, at least there’s one other player with it on show anyway. I’m definitely fighting for top spot as support too after pulling the highest healing and mit several rounds a game without effort previously

proven thorn
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Casually pulling 10k healing and 3.5k mit whilst bullying the opposing backline is incredibly strong

void pawn
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i just puit all into builting beat super fast and having instant kill double boops

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and also my beats give liek 2000 hp so

sharp current
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Man guys i love fighting cassidy ever ysingle match im ahving so much fun

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Im actually tweaking

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Tank is unbearable because of him

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He literally just doesnt aim and spams right click and wins

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I just played a game where a cass had 8000 dmg before 50% on the capture point

rustic anvil
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terrible

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just won a 3-0 had 16k more credits

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and

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u wouldnt guess

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we

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lost

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it said victory but put us in another

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and we lost the next 4

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like?

sharp current
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Yeah i love when that happens

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The bug is very common

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you mercy but it doesn twork lmao

rustic anvil
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and its SO easy to fix a bug like that

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smh

sharp current
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i literally dont even wanna play the game bcuz of cass

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its so exhausting

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He is in every single match in every single mode

void pawn
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im more sick of genji oneshotting everyone eith less than 400 hp

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but

rustic anvil
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ye ive been taking a break from ow atm

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first game back

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that

sharp current
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🙏

rustic anvil
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and also can we talk abt the zayra being able to ONE tap

sharp current
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😭

rustic anvil
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150 charge is not fair

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lol

sharp current
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I just fought a Zarya who exclusively bubbled her cass and herself when she was low

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So I literally could not do anything

ember kettle
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@hearty lodge The Juno builds good but damn when you get shit on round 1 because you dont do fucking jack shit round 1, it feels rough not getting torpedos round 2.

sharp current
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THe cass couldnt die and was one shotting lmao

ember kettle
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Like I feel juno is by far the worst round 1-3 healer

proven thorn
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I pick up boop tech late

void pawn
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my build basically works on winning early

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so its very high risk high reward

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if i get to round 6 im done for

proven thorn
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Then you can beat for 400 HP early and way more later, you still bump up boops damage a lot

proven kite
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whats the best build for horse?

proven thorn
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I’d recommend trying wave on amp first pick into boop tech or boop heals. you’ll get way more net when things are going wrong and you’ll have way more flexibility to either go more into boop or more into sustain for the team

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My build essentially amounts to amp your team for overhealth and big healing stack, rotate whilst it still lasts the extra 2 seconds and smash a support into a wall then return and drop another amp to regain all your health, allies health etc.

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I usually go wave on amp, into double boop and from there I’ll decide on heal boop or damage boop. Usually heal boop unless they have a team prone to me diving in

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Again works the same, cooldown, ability damage etc but I will have the net to grab a purple every round and usually get their whole team with -30% heals. Great for harassing tanks and I frequently find reins have to take shield charge to stop me ruining charges and characters like Queen suffer badly against me because I can out overhealth their bleed and boop them out of axe range

cold yew
ember kettle
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Today I ran into prob what I feel is her strongest build.

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Completely cenetered around keeping the spin up and just spamming ults

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She had ult up literally every single fight

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They had centripetal charge -> spynstem update -> supercharger and I forgot the last one with reduction field for the DR and iridescant iris for overshield on ult, etc.

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Just was completely cenetered around spam E, get ult every 10 seconds, press ult for the massive pull in / nuke / ow 1 amplifier beacon

proven thorn
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I’m ngl favourite mercy build is probably a valk weapon damage build and taking the during valk connect to everyone in range because you just throw shoot them since the pistol scales with staff

ember kettle
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Oh and that explains it. The build was posted by Jay3 8 hours ago

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That would explain the random appearace of it

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Or some variation of it

proven thorn
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Ok I officially do no know what’s going on with my rank.

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I’ve now won 3 games in a row and still do not have consecutive win bonus.

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I think if the game ends because of the enemy team leaving it doesn’t count the game as a consecutive win

hearty lodge
proven thorn
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Ok I take it back completely. I’m just not getting consecutive win bonuses somehow…

hearty lodge
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But 11.5k currency on round 2 is super easy to achieve even when losing

ember kettle
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You would think. But not with how badly my teams tend to get just gapped that big

pale dock
proven thorn
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Is the ult glitch punishable? like should I be reporting people using it or is it considered some weird “tech” currently

cosmic saddle
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So do leavers in stadium not get a penalty? My last game the tank left round 2 and for the rest of the set we had no tank. Sup with all the leavers?

ember kettle
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Your number scares me

cosmic saddle
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number?

ember kettle
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name

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Dont know why I said number

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Banana and Toy can be interpritted many different ways and the winston at the front of it makes me think of only one thing

cosmic saddle
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I was a winston main, he has an emote "no i dont want a banana" dont look to far into it

proven thorn
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Genji one is much harder to notice. Way less cheesy since technically you’re just saving one second

ember kettle
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Bro how does reinhardt get ult back every 5 fucking seconds

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It takes like an entire round for me playing perfectly to get a juno ult

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meanwhile all these others are getting ults every like 10 seconds

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and it makes no sense

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Theres legit no way there isnt an explot going on

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Like theres physically no fucking way theres not an exploit

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Atleast orisa's build makes sense for it because thats what it does

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Theres no fuckin gway. A reinhardt should be able to ult 5 times before I get 1 ult

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NONE WHAT SO EVER

verbal zenith
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Do yall think that they will fix the ps4 lag ?

cosmic saddle
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no fun to play against

ember kettle
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"HAMMER DOWN" IM IN SPAWN HOW DID YOU JUST HIT ME

verbal zenith
ember kettle
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Like its so stupid

verbal zenith
ember kettle
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Well they need to fucking remove it

verbal zenith
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Because you couldnt do more dmg than they could heal

ember kettle
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Because being hit by this out of no where across the fucking map every fight is pissing me off

verbal zenith
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They want to increase it to 40M

ember kettle
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like sometimes i'll jump over it but jesus fuck

verbal zenith
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40 meters

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And the critical hits zone to like 7 or 8

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350 Dmg in 7 or 8 Meter radius

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And junos getting nerfed

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Healing torpedos charge 50% slower

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And they do no more dmg

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Just cosmetic

hearty lodge
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right?

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those two arent intended (not official)

ember kettle
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THIS ISNT NEEDED!??!?!?!?!

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STOP GUTTING JUNO

mental jetty
hearty lodge
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there's a streamer/youtuber who even went ahead and admitted to bug abusing mid-stream AND on a youtube video

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he's like 16 so it checks out tho

mental jetty
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The projectiles are so fun

ember kettle
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They need to stop nerfing Juno. This is legit unfucking called for

verbal zenith
ember kettle
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Yes because that stupid ass shit is something Blizzard would do

verbal zenith
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Im just talking nonsense

hearty lodge
ember kettle
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"oh hey juno just got her mythic skin! Lets gut her so none of the people buying her skin can have fun!"

mental jetty
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I normally hate on Juno players but they have nerfed her to the point that she is useless in some cases

ember kettle
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Thats 100% blizzard would fucking god damn do

verbal zenith
verbal zenith
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i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif

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Explains it good enough

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And thed are planning to move the mythic Juno skin to gray items

verbal zenith
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And her name will change to "Reinhardts lil bean"

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Im excited for that update ngl

ember kettle
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Overwatch still not adding a "skip replay" feature so I can get to lobby faster

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I dont care about watching the shitty POTGs

verbal zenith
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They will add a feature to skip potg but you have to stare at reapers feet for 20 seconds

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I read that on twitter

pale dock
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good orisa builds?

ember kettle
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This ashe and mcree dont miss

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Holy fucking DPS gap

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Both DPS had over 4k damage and neither on my team had 1k

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"wheres the healing" BITCH WHERES THE DAMAGE. IM DOING 3k HEALING AND 5X YOUR DAMAGE AND I HAVE THE MOST POINTS ON THE TEAM

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Oh gee private profile with 1 endorsement

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"not getting healed so I give up"
BITCH YOU SAW ME IN YOUR FACE HEALING YOU AS A BOB WAS FUCKING KEEPING US STUCK IN A CORNER.

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FOR A SOLID 20 SECONDS. WHAT DO YOU MEAN

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Ashe was legit aiming at me all fucking game and throwing the dynamite at only me because 1 dynamite means I was dead

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Like what more do you want me to do when I was MVP every round even with their ashe practically aim botting and focusing me every game and ended with almost 20k more than the bitch complaining about me "never play healer again"

stark cloud
hushed jewel
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I’m done with stadium for a bit til illari is added

pale dock
hearty lodge
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its completely unnecessary to hear them bitch around

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When was the last time you had someone tell you advice, maybe point out something to look out for in a supportive way, or otherwise compliment you in Overwatch Stadium??

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Completely unnecessary to have the chat unmuted

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When i give advice i still do it with the chat muted cause people complain you are trying to help them see something they might not be seeing. Like "Hey, Cassidy, can you try to keep their reaper in check so our Ana stops dying? Just stay near her if possible, thanks!" And people will still flame for telling them what to do

hallow fog
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armory should not be open for 90 seconds on round 1

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i already bought and am typing this message

hearty lodge
hearty lodge
hallow fog
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hold up will respond after this round

hearty lodge
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you are telling me random people on Stadium lobbies LIED to me????

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:shocked_pikachu_face:

hallow fog
remote roost
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i got teamed up with someone named pompompurin but the match got cancelled cause someone left... i miss them

main jungle
pale dock
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i also see other people do it

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i never see toxicity in stadium and if there is it's usually shut down by everyone else

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also guys

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I DID IT!

hallow fog
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Aw man I lost even though I had 70k credits and all purple items

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and I had to babysit my trashcan dps

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Tanks are really OP

hearty lodge
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congratz!

quasi dagger
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I was playing stadium and I kept on getting kicked out of my game because of my internet tweaking, but I rejoined all of my games and finished them to the end and I still ended up getting banned from both stadium and ranked for the rest of the season 😔

hearty lodge
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im reading at Reddit everyone is having the same connectivity issues

errant scarab
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has anyone else noticed an abnormally large amount of pokemon named players in stadium

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i've seen like at least 8 in the past 3 days

errant scarab
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crazy

cold yew
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got the title

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i no longer care about stadium

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ggs

cursive nymph
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Weapon power increases the healing from my primary fire right

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On Ana

honest marsh
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Yes and also her DMG from primary fire

cursive nymph
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Yea

proven thorn
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Also does anyone know where you can find a list of each rank and its required stadium points? I’ve been informed my stadium rank display is broken and that I need to work it out using the points not the tracker

cursive nymph
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I just wasn't sure if it only boosted the rifles damage

cursive nymph
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Is it the same for like

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Every other support

proven thorn
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If their healing is weapon based it’s tied to it

cursive nymph
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Yea

proven thorn
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So mercy blaster gets stronger as you buff staff, moira etc

prime lichen
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flying reinhardt

proven thorn
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Similarly ability “attacks” like Lucio boop scales with ability meaning you can boop for loads of damage and have huge amp it up sound barriers

cursive nymph
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Yea

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I've figured out most of it

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Just got kiriko and Moira left

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Don't usually play support so it's been fun

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Should I do kiriko or Moira this game 😼

proven thorn
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The game however says for more info in direct relation to what it does to abilities to open the hero screen but as far as I know I can’t do that once you’re in a lobby and firing range doesn’t have anything in it

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Kiri damage and healing both scale with weapon damage you can easily pull 8k/8k dps/heals if built right

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Take chain healing, then explosive darts and TP for the 3 darts at once then just play like normal but use your tp for burst damage rather than escapes.

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I haven’t tried a suzu build yet but it seems like fun

hallow fog
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ok but why is rein allowed to 1 shot with fire strike

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even when I buy armors

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boooooo

proven thorn
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If you’re having issues with abilities bursting you down you need to invest in things that mitigate the burst rather than health. Their ability power usually scales faster than health

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Get things that activate after certain amounts of damage or the one where you take damage over time and pray a support can help

hearty lodge
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you can take those if you feel oppressed

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or, you know... dodge better xD

proven thorn
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How does attack speed work with characters like moira? Does it actually increase her damage tick rate?

void pawn
fallen bough
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Anyone else calibrating and the game gives you 125 pts but the bar only moves like 20% 😭

proven thorn
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But I didn’t actually I don’t think idk it’s all ove the place

proven thorn
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I played all yesterday and it said I was about 30% into pro 5 and logged on today and I’m now halfway into pro 3

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So somewhere somehow there’s a bug messing with the screen at the end of the game

hearty lodge
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I wanna be like you when i wake up

void pawn
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i am STILL on calibration when i win

void pawn
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pro 4 babY

proven thorn
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Yeah yesterday I was moaning and worked out you’d need to play 150 games to get out of pro but turns out there’s a visual bug. Someone told me it’s just a bug and yeah I checked it resolved itself when I relogged

void pawn
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lol

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dude i wish i had image perms

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to post my different lucio builds

verbal stratus
sweet perch
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any soldier 76 experts here?

slate drum
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does anyone have a genji build

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for dive

proven thorn
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I just had 30k mit in a round as Orisa and our juno had 2k healing and unironically was getting angry at the DPS

void pawn
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then i got flamed for feeding when my team couldnt do the 4 v 3

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ak.jwbdgkalujdhbad;p

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we still won tho

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nearly pro 3

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it was the craziest reverse sweep too, they won 3 rounds in a row, then we proceeded to win 4 in a row

proven thorn
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Orisa mit build is so fun I hadn’t tried her yet I’m just trying to tick off my last mvp ones

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I need to play moira which I really don’t want to do now that my MMR is settling

void pawn
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moira isnt that fun

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every character except dva and moira are fun imo

pale dock
dark jetty
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is it meant to take so long to rank out of pro compared to the other ranks? it feels like you need an infinitely larger amount of points to rank up in pro than it takes in any other rank.

ember kettle
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"how did moira outheal you both combined every round"

well one of us a juno.
and the other is a suzu build kiriko.

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and moira was just throwing 19283190238912390 healing orbs around every 3 seconds.

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Maybe just maybe. Thats why..

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Ever think about that you fucking donkeys

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And even with all that healing they were doing, they still lost.

proven thorn
ember kettle
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When are people going to realize, not every healer is going to pop 10k healing a round, and if you are having to pop 10k healing a round. YOU ARE A FUCKING DONKEY.
The more you have to heal. The worse your team is playing. Us having as low healing as we did and STILL WINNING BTW. Is how the stats SHOULD look.

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Their healing was for our chip damage. Our presence was winning the fights.

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Tired of people just looking at the fucking stats like they matter.

ocean vessel
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some people need to realize there is only a certain amount of healing possible because they are only taking so much damage so if one support has a healing build THEY WILL PROBABLY DO MOST OF THE HEALING

ember kettle
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Shocker. If you are taking little damage. Theres little for me to heal.
If enemy is getting hit by mccree headshots constantly and exploding torpedos. Theres alot moore for them to heal.

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Who woulda thought thats how games work

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The healing they are getting is what we call pad / chip healing.
The random constant poke, harass, etc damage that they are healing thats causing them to not be able to push easly.

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And its even worse when you are playing with a mercy and lucio that out heal you as juno and your teams like "juno how did you get out healed"
YOU HAVE CONSTANT AOE HEALING BEAMS AND A GIANT AURA FOR EXISTING

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WHAT DO YOU MEAN HOW THATS YOUR JOB.

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I HAVE CDS

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How are people still this incompetant at the game to know such basic fucking information on how the game or characters work

dark jetty
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some fell for the 8/10 ragebait 😔 🥀

void pawn
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i go for ultimate builds on lucio instead of healing builds

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well its more i go from attack lucio to ultimate builds

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if only my stadium queues werent 17 mins long

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mark of the kitsune on lucio is very strong though

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since lucio is aoe healing passively, its very easy to just boost your team to full without needing the power for it

ember kettle
ember kettle
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Long queue times, for still shit matchmaking

void pawn
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ive been sitting in queue for 9 mins already

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although i have a high winrate so its fine

ember kettle
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Marvel Rivals has instant queues for arguably the same shit tier quality matchmaking

void pawn
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because everyone plays qp

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and its open q

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how is your matchmaking 'shit' in overwatch stadium

ember kettle
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I mean based on all my complaining, its pretty obvious

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First off. No one understands support.
Not even the other supports on my team.

glad zephyr
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did mercy's power stadium perk get removed??

ember kettle
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Which

glad zephyr
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idk theres just a blank space now im not sure i remember the name of it

ember kettle
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What did it do

glad zephyr
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i cant send photos but i have a photo of the perk

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on one of my builds

ember kettle
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send me the picture

void pawn
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pro 3

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lets go 78% winrate

ember kettle
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Established that the Power they was talking about was the Mercy Equivalent Exchange

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Was stealth removed for bug that restores the 3 limited revives when disconnecting

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Change my mind.
THis goes for the normal game too .
Any form of damage amplification. Should count towards the character giving said damage amplification.

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Like for mercy I wanna see how much my beam and ult damage boosting is actually helping

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Like obvious it IS helping. But I wanna see how much

hallow glen
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lf egirl or femboy mercy to pocket me as soldier

void pawn
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idk

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im still ranking up pretty well in pro

ember kettle
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Build saver cant come fast enough

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I wonder how indepth it wll be

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I hope its not just what they have like example builds

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I want an early game, mid game, optionals, late game. Sell this for this. Etc like the websites

abstract owl
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Got to love Juno, she goes BOOM BOOM

ember kettle
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I mean what

void pawn
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the problem with it is that you arent guaranteed to make the money you need in the early rounds

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and honestly i like making my builds off the fly, it normally ends up better anyways (although i do have the same round 1 build obvs)

abstract owl
full granite
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lwk when i first tried stadium i thought teammates could give money to other teammates 😭

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Like a shared collective

obsidian gorge
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What did I miss? The waiting time for the game on the medic tells me is 17 minutes💀

ember kettle
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Like geting 14k round 1 , not having enough for the exploding and the bonus health, etc.

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but thats why I said the custom build saver if its optimal should have a like set round items to focus on, then an "optional" section.

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They arent a "must have this on this round" its a "focus on getting this to be optimal with what ever money you have"

modest spindle
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hey guys what does BTY mean in stadium?

neon galleon
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I think there is a hidden mmr thing for Matchmaking, if you feel like you can’t go any further, it may be a good idea to wait awhile for the player base to get into their proper rankings and try again then

sand oar
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how do I mute the announcer?

neon galleon
pale dock
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it also turns off character voicelines

unreal kelp
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bro

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just me

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or lucio is so trash

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80% of the time lucio on my team i lose

pale dock
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lucio is one of the best supports in stadium. maybe they're just trying out wacky builds

sand oar
pale dock
sand oar
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complete oversight on blizzards side

ember kettle
unreal kelp
sand oar
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ashe genuinely needs a cash buff

modest spindle
errant scarab
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silly

void pawn
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a guide on how to theorycraft is better than just copying builds

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since i theorycraft on the spot in most my stadium matches

void pawn
ember kettle
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Do not use scope

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Just dont

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Its legit. Not worth it

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Its way too slow

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You can go unscoped or a dynamite build and just light people up. Literally.

void pawn
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upgrading the weapon on lucio is pretty shite due to the slow projectile and his burst of only 4 shots

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so typically upgrading his healing, boop or beat is just better

sand oar
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I build full AP with coach gun burn

neon galleon
neon galleon
neon galleon
# sand oar both of those builds haven't worked for me, ashe is just weak

I found building a mix of ability power and weapon power and focusing on the gun worked well in the 1 game I had with Ashe since she can get powers that gives her gun bonus damage of both types, then I got the power that lets my coach gun ignite people so that I could take better advantage of the extra damage to burning targets

errant scarab
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make it make sense

unreal kelp
neon galleon
void pawn
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if you have the monies

neon galleon
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Which you can surprisingly get a good bit of as Lucio-

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Like unless you’re a flanker Lucio you generally will get the most healing and focusing on boop for damage will get you a fair bit

void pawn
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failed virus link jumpscare

neon galleon
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Just had a second actual winning game with Lucio and I’m finding that until you get double boops and wall bang boops, your boop will lack a bit in damage

cursive nymph
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Lucio, Moria, Reaper and JQ always seem to be rich

dark jetty
ember kettle
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I love still auto losing in stadium because enemy team has orisa 76 and you dont

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Or just. Any form of 76

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Can people stop playing reaper

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hes fucking dog shit and cant do anything in stadium

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Like actually

cursive nymph
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Soldier is kinda mid now tbh

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I think the real threat is Cassidy by far

ember kettle
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Soldier is not mid in any fucking world

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You are delusion

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Yay losing 50 points because enemy had a orisa ash 76 while we had a reaper. 🙂

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Getting out of elites impossible

neon galleon
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Also Soldier is the problem in that comp not Orisa, most Orisas don’t know how to keep her damage up while improving her bulk so if you just focus the soldier down Orisa will eventually fall as well, heck a well built Reaper can just outright 1v1 her and not be at much risk of dying

ember kettle
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Every orisa I face says otherwise

crisp oar
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What's a good ashe build

hearty lodge
hearty lodge
crisp oar
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Zz

hearty lodge
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nah but for real, i've tried scoped primary fire and it works

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try that one

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if you are good at aiming

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if not, go for dynamite and Ability Power

neon galleon
ember kettle
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Elite 3... this climb to pro is so painful

neon galleon
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Can always wait for all the players to get into their proper ranks before trying to climb again

crisp oar
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I will try it next time I play

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I've seen ppl use mini bob before but is it any good?

crisp oar
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Stadium games r too long also 😭

ember kettle
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Determined

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mercy needs to be giga nerfed

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theres just a flying reinhard going 12-0

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How the fuck are you suppose to deal with reinhard

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No matter what fucking build this cunt builds

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Hes literally unstoppable

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LIterally makes no sense for him to be this strong

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Usually on juno i'd just jump fucking over him. But CANT DO THAT WHEN HES FLYING

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Hes way too tanky baseline.
His barriers way too tanky.
His hammer has way too much reach and can just freely charge in and 2 shot both healers with no issue.
His flame strike can just be spammed and also 1 shot squishies.

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Everything he does is way too strgon

neon galleon
# ember kettle Hes literally unstoppable

No, no he is not. JQ ignores his shield, Mei’s boulder can displace him and deny him value from shatter, a Reaper can rip his barrier to pieces if you build him for it, Soldier can also rip it to pieces, Cassidy in general, if Rein charges a Zarya that invested heavily into her primary fire too much she could melt him, he has a hard time catching Lucio who can just bounce him all over the place, Rein is nowhere close to invincible. You’ve probably been losing too many times in a row

hearty lodge
#

i tried it for 2 days, liked it, but its not much better than full AP or full on primary fire damage builds

neon galleon
#

Yeah it’s only good if you’re able to build it up enough to basically spam the shit out of it, the main downside is that it’s really fucking easy for one person to destroy it

hearty lodge
#

there's a really good defensive item that solves the issue giving Bob 300 armor

#

it gives you 75 HP as well

neon galleon
#

I mean in general it feels like Bob is a lot easier to kill in Stadium, though that might just be the Ashes I face using them at bad times

ember kettle
#

Why does it look like a win for +100 gives me 1/10th of a bar, but a loss for -50 takes lik 1/4th of my bar

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What in the fucking logic

sweet perch
#

anyone has a good soldier build for stadium

ember kettle
#

All of them

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There could prob be a random auto builder and he would still be the best DPS

neon galleon
ember kettle
#

76 is an everyone killer. That beats him

neon galleon
#

Until the Cass legit one shots him

ember kettle
#

Mccree would be better if he had a kit.

warped cairn
#

I got silenced by blizzard in stadium 😦

ember kettle
#

Flash Bang is garbage, roll is garbage, his ult is one of the worst ults in Overwatch.

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Meanwhile 76 has sprint, biotic field, a niegh global 1 shot with rocket

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AoE aimbot

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Actual DPS that isnt headshot reliat

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reliant

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Or reliant on being in their face for fan

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Mcree is just ass

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Rather have an Ashe

neon galleon
#

Ok you’re either capping or you’ve gotten way too salty from losing matches

ember kettle
#

Or you are just delusional and suck off content creators who are mindless

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Oh gee they have reinhard and we have zarya. time to lose automatically 0-4 because tank diff.

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Oh thats why we are losing. lucios a donkey

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and doing a damage build

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Im tired of trolls purposely building wrong

#

This is elite, not novice.

#

Go damage lucio if you have a fucking moira or a mercy. Not a fucking juno

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Because now we dont have a main healer

#

THIS ZARYA AND LUCIO ARE SO GARBAGE

neon galleon
#

Yeah I think you just need to take a break for the day-

ember kettle
#

I think you need to shut up

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Im fine

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You wont climb if you just log off like a bitch

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My team just needs to stop playing troll ass garbage picks like zarya and DPS lucio

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and just reaper and dva in general

neon galleon
#

You won’t climb if you keep getting distracted and pissed off at everything either

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Also when you say dps Lucio do you mean they’re bumping up their weapon power and not giving a damn about ability power?

ember kettle
#

Im always pissed off at my donkey for brain team mates

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Wait I see why we are losing even more now

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  1. We have a Zarya Vs Rein Gurenteed Loss
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  1. We have a DPS Lucio so we have no main healer
  2. WE HAVE A BIOTIC FIELD SOLDIER WHEN THEY HAVE AN AIMBOT 76
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BRO WHY IS A LOSS 50% OF A BAR WHEN A WIN IS ONLY 10%

#

BLIZZARD FIX THIS?!?!?!?! HOW IS THIS FAIR IN ANY WORLD!?!??!? IM LEGIT STUCK HERE BECAUSE OF IDIOT ASS FUCKING DONKEYS AND MAKING ME LOSE 50% BECAUSE OF TROLLS YET WHEN I WIN I HAVE TO WIN 6 TIMES TO GO POSITIVE?!?!?!?

neon galleon
ember kettle
#

Doesn't matter which. Its a DPS lucio

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Thats a hard fucking troll

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If you arent spamming right click and E for 10k healing every round, you are fucking trolling on Lucio

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Get the fuck out of my god damn fucking game.

#

Trying to rank up and legit being sabotaged by donkeys

neon galleon
#

Have you considered that the game is trying to tell you to take a break?

ember kettle
#

And its even more punishing because Blizzard has no clue how to balance a fucking competitive system

#

50% for a loss and 10% for a win is suc a god damn fucking piece of shit joke

ember kettle
#

A break wont fix this

ember kettle
#

I'll come back tomorrow and get the exact same god damn fucking idiot ass donkey for brain team mates

tawdry ginkgo
#

Me tooo

ember kettle
#

A break legit wont do jack god damn shit to fix this

tawdry ginkgo
#

Throwing like idiots

ember kettle
#

Blizzards absolute refusal to nerf 76 and and Rein mixed in with donkey for brain team mates and the whole 50% loss / 10% win ratio. Fuck stadium

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Like genuinely. Fuck this game mode

#

Im only here for 3rd person.

neon galleon
ember kettle
#

I WANT THE STRESS TO KILL ME

lean pagoda
#

tweaking over a game mad crazy

gleaming patrol
#

i wish stadium didnt pick the worst hero pool ever

tawdry ginkgo
gleaming patrol
#

it couldve been so good

ember kettle
#

Atleast if I inhaled some mustard gas I wouldnt have to deal with these team mates.

tawdry ginkgo
#

That she IS so strong

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And yu know that i guess

ember kettle
#

Zarya is only as strong as her DPS that she can spam bubble.

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She doesnt do jack shit herself.

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Not like what Rein / Orisa / Junker do

tawdry ginkgo
#

Yeaah

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Basically i try

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To stop her and she IS unstoappeable

ember kettle
#

The reason zarya does so good is because people are afraid to shoot her shield. Just blow through her shield and her before she can do anything.

tawdry ginkgo
#

Literally

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Or that her SHIELD

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Make her dps so strong

#

Imagine @ember kettle

ember kettle
#

Oh boy another reinhardt / ashe / 76

#

meanwhile we have zarya reaper

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so we just auto lose based on team

#

again

tawdry ginkgo
#

Yeah

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I hate them

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So much

#

Zarya and reaper

ember kettle
#

WHY DOES MY TEAM REFUSE TO PLAY THE ACTUAL GOOD CHARACTERS

neon galleon
#

Have you considered that some people just play this mode for fun? That they don’t care about playing meta? Literally until season 17 this is the only way to play Stadium

tawdry ginkgo
ember kettle
#

Stadium is a RANKED mode

tawdry ginkgo
neon galleon
ember kettle
#

Stop throwing my god damn fucking competitive matches just because you want to "have fun". Getting stomped 0-4 with 0 chance of winning a fight because you trolled by picking reaper and doing 100 damage to both enemy dpses 5000

#

is not "fun"

ruby scroll
#

Bro it's not that deep, let people play Ashe and genji

ember kettle
#

ASHE AND GENJI ARE BETTER THAN REAPER ATLEAST

#

ID MUCH RATHER THEM PLAY THOSE

neon galleon
ember kettle
#

No he isnt

ember kettle
#

Hes so easily kited and dealt with because of his lack of any range

ruby scroll
#

Reaper is up there with cas and soldier

dim nova
#

how do you itemize jq vs zarya? I feel like I get rolled over every game

ember kettle
neon galleon
neon galleon
dim nova
#

JQ

ruby scroll
ember kettle
#

You fight zarya by ignoring zarya or 5 man focusing zarya
There is no inbetween

gleaming patrol
#

lmaoo

neon galleon
gleaming patrol
#

satdium gotta be top 5 blizzard fumbles

ruby scroll
#

Creamy is just upset because he lost his first match and is still rookie 5

gleaming patrol
#

totally

#

i loveee blizaard slop

neon galleon
ember kettle
#

A break wont change anything

dim nova
ember kettle
#

Breaks wont change anything.
Tilt doesnt exist.

Its 2025. People need to stop believing this myth.

neon galleon
ember kettle
#

I have no issue thinking clearly when pissed.
Tilt is a myth that doesnt fucking exist.

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Infact I play BETTER when im pissed

dim nova
#

crazy take

ember kettle
#

Because im actively trying to fucking win

dim nova
#

have you heard of the yips

ember kettle
#

So im more focused

#

Tilt. Does. Not. Exist.

neon galleon
#

Welp, you’re hopeless

ember kettle
#

Its called "getting in the game"

dim nova
#

theres tilt and theres flow, theyre different

ember kettle
#

And getting into the flow usually involves being pissed off

neon galleon
#

No….no it usually doesn’t

ember kettle
#

Yes it does.

dim nova
#

flow is a result of a lot of factors, and im sure anger could be one. But I dont think its a consistent way to enter flow

#

usually its a result of focus and an adequate level of challenge

neon galleon
#

Just don’t at this point, they’re gone too far into their rage

dim nova
#

seeing that yeah

#

to be fair, I do think rage can be mistaken for flow

#

theres an intense focus where the world disappears in the same way

#

but genuine flow is less blood boiling and more energy intensifying

#

but also, its a game. whats there to be angry about?

#

if youre not having fun, why are you playing?

ember kettle
#

Because it has 3rd person mode

dim nova
#

That's not a real answer

ember kettle
#

That is

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Thats the only reason im in stadium

dim nova
#

Nono I meant overwatch in general

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If you're not having fun why are you playing

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It's the reason I know I won't ever go pro in a game. I was doing okay in T3 open division, but just got so upset all the time that we weren't winning

ember kettle
#

Because it doesnt run like shit like Marvel Rivals does

dim nova
#

Still not an answer

ember kettle
#

It is though

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You cant tell me whats not on answer on why im playing a game

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Its a competitive game. Competitive games are designed to piss you off

dim nova
#

Hard disagree on that point

ember kettle
#

you can disagree all you want but its facts

dim nova
#

Okay done here

ember kettle
#

And we lost because aimbot 76k did 12k damage and both of my dps combined did 10k damage. Nice.

dim nova
#

Just trying to get people to be a bit self reflective

ember kettle
#

Cant wait for them to remove 76 from the fucking game

#

Tired of aim bot 76 having no counterplay

ember kettle
dim nova
#

That's an insane take

ember kettle
#

its a factual take

#

If you dont get pissed off at it, you dont care about winning, meaning you arent being a competitive player.

#

Thats just straight fucking facts

#

Go back to quick play with your shitty AI profile picture

#

Atleast there you can prob play your Mercy

dim nova
#

I don't understand how you think insulting me changes anything but you do you

ember kettle
#

I didnt insult you. I insulted your AI profile picture

#

Junker Queen. Finally a good tank

#

Come on DPS dont play reaper

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Give me a 76 and Ash

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NOOO DONT PLAY MCCREE WITHOUT A MERCY

#

You are literally about to tickle the enemies without a mercy damage boost.

#

Son of a. So close to a good fucking team.

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and the enemy mccree is hacking. Nice.

sweet perch
#

is zarya OP in stadium

ember kettle
#

Fuck no

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Not even close

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Just play Rein instead if you care about winning in any capacity

neon galleon
dim nova
#

Yeah currently frustrated playing against zarya as anything other than zarya

#

Tbf I don't play rein

ember kettle
#

I have perfect reasoning and Zarya is dog shit.
Zarya with a good team is good.
D.va is just dog shit good team or not
Zarya requires a team.
Rein / Orisa / Junker are Overpowered no matter what they build and dont require a team.

#

So if you actually care about winning, Rein / Orisa / Junker are your only options

hallow glen
#

lf femboy or egirl mercy to pocket me as cass im pro rank

ember kettle
#

OH BOY BACK TO ELITE 4

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BECAUSE OUR 76 WAS 5 DEATHS WITH NO KILLS AND ENEMY 76 WAS 20-0 RUNNIG AT US 1v5

ember kettle
#

How are you 1400 hours into the game on damage and cant kill a single fucking person on aimbot 76

#

Like actually unreal how fucking dog shit these team mates are

#

They are lucky im already chat restricted for 2 weeks

sweet perch
#

can powers not be refunded

pale dock
#

only perks

ember kettle
#

Change my mind. Perks should refund at 50% of their value. Not 100%.

#

Bad enough some characters are dog shit round 1-3.
Worse enough that you can sell perks for 100% value so you almost never see past round 4 against a competant team so you lose before you even come online

dim nova
#

I really like incendiary rounds on Ashe but struggle to feel like other powers really support weapon damage builds. Anyone have any build ideas?

ember kettle
#

Throw a dynamite. Watch it burn everything.

#

or just spam unscoped shots

#

Throwing dynamites and bobs everywhere really is her best performing build from what I can see though

#

I see ashe and ana. Going suzu build i guess

#

junker/ana

dim nova
#

does anyone know if the debuff from calamity counts as a burn?

sweet perch
#

cassidy is pretty strong ngl

ember kettle
#

Useless ass mei did 800 damage and asks what the fuck happened

#

Fucking play the game you dumb bitch. Thats what happened. Its a 4v5

#

juno stole juno from me and doesnt even know how to build her

stark cloud
#

.

ember kettle
#

Not having exploding torpedos on round 4

#

Round 5 33k cash, she still hasnt bought exploding torpedos

#

Nice Anti ult junker and ana. Shame I have 2 suzus

#

Easiest game of my life

#

Junker ult, I suzu 1 for the cleanse and overhealth.
Ana anti grenades. I suze it for another cleanse and overhealth.
Immedaitely kitsune rush and soldier 76 runs them down

fringe nimbus
#

I tried this mode and it’s…not fun…

#

I should say I tried it again

ember kettle
#

oh its absolutely not fun

#

But until they add 3rd person to the standard game

#

Im not playing anything but stadium

fringe nimbus
#

Every match is just Cass and Soldier with a pocket mercy lmao

fringe nimbus
#

The mode has its moments but other times it’s just insufferable for the time commitment

ember kettle
#

And it sucks, im stuck on this game because Marvel Rivals refuses to fix its optimization so im on a constant 25 FPS drop 24/7 now and its getting worse every time a new patch comes out

#

Id rather suffer on here over a game that I literally cant aim or play effeciently on due to bad optimization

#

Shit got the wrong power

#

Change my mind, you should be able to sell your powers. Atleast on round you buy the,

#

Like if you buy the power round 1 , you can change it only on round 1.

#

So incase of brainlet auto buying

earnest gazelle
#

I hate getting mercy 1 tricks on my team cause they see lucio and still decide "I'll play Mercy" or they see Moira and say the same damn thing

ember kettle
#

oh look its a mercy mcree 76 reinhard

#

I love the meta abuse.

#

Cant break reinhard

#

and mercy is just damage boosting mcree and 76 24/7

#

WE HAVE JUNKER. WHY IS SHE NOT JUST KILLING THE REIN

#

Literally if you arent running Rein / 76 / Ashe (or mcree) / Mercy. You just lose. Its actually insane

#

because I gurentee the enemy teams running it, and you will lose every single time with no chance of ever getting to do anything

errant scarab
#

so glad i can get two elite tank titles

errant scarab
#

unless u get reaper

#

dont forget having a lucio that doesn't eat crayon

ember kettle
#

Just trying to get pro on support minimum

#

THE ENTIRE ENEMY TEAM IS FLANKING US CONSTANTlY. DO SOMETHING TEAM

#

OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYEBALLS

errant scarab
#

which one is pro

#

is that gold or diamond

#

i will never learn the names

ember kettle
#

The one after elite

#

The equivalent of diamond

#

elites the equivalent of plat

lost turret
#

wait like

#

why is mercy so fun with full cd build + reneissance and the beams when valked

#

i got her down to 15 sec rez cd

#

closest we got to moth meta in current ow </3

ember kettle
#

This isnt "current ow" . This is stadium. Stadium is vastly different than normal OW.

#

Why the hell is their moira playing flank so much

errant scarab
#

im tryna find someone to carry my elite ass to the one with the juno skin

#

so masters

#

👍

#

:3

ember kettle
#

Just earn the ugly recolor yourself if you want it

errant scarab
#

swag👍

night mist
#

Jq builds? Haven’t tried her much and can’t find much

#

Shout reset seems pretty good alongside double carnage

stark cloud
ember kettle
#

I see the gameplay on Mcree now

#

You just go straight mag size

#

and just baha ass blast someone with 20 bullet fan the hammers

#

And if the first 20 dont kill. Roll for the CD reset and do it again

hushed jewel
#

If I can’t be a self-nuke as illari I don’t wanna play

void pawn
#

im halfway to allstar

#

but my support queues are now 30 minutes on down hours

flat elm
#

or group

void pawn
#

i dont know anyone who plays stadium in groups

flat elm
#

i thought most play in group

oak aspen
#

I have droped from halfway through Pro 3 to demotion protection in Pro 5 painstare

sweet perch
#

anyone has a wicked cassidy build?

flat elm
#

for survival usually all you need is the 100 armour

sweet perch
#

what should i grab

flat elm
#

and only other thing there rly that might come in useful is vanadium

#

power wise i dont think it matters a ton

#

just roll with it is good

#

so id go that and prob full house

#

then bulls eye, quick draw, think flash, dead man walking depending on match

proven thorn
#

13 minute queue time just for a leaver has got me a special kind of tilted already this morning

#

Spending near enough an hour to play a single full game of stadium is diabolical

limpid steppe
#

is anyone else lagging in stadium on some rounds?

#

does the server change every round?

#

I was lagging on rounds 1, 3, 5, and 7 but was not lagging on rounds 2, 4, 6

void pawn
flat elm
void pawn
#

yeah

mighty bough
#

Does anyone know how exactly the mercy rule works? I've seen both games end at only roughly 10k lead, but also games keep going at like 18k lead. Or is it bugged?

pale dock
#

but it’s bugged as there has been instances like you said where you lose first 3, have the 15k deficit and it still goes on to round 4.

#

as far as anyone is aware that is unintentional

mighty bough
#

Ok, I had heard what you mentioned but wasn't sure if it was actually bugged or if I missed something. Thanks

pale dock
#

it’s uncommon, but it happens. No problem!

neon galleon
stark cloud
#

Combat roll all the way

#

It's not useful but it's mad funny

#

Invest everything in combat roll

#

Even your savings, all in combat roll

neon galleon
#

I mean the one that makes your roll make you completely immune to damage and makes it heal you is always a good one to grab I feel, if you’re focusing on your gun though always grab the one that increases your damage for every bullet it has and the one that increases your max ammo whenever you kill someone you recently landed a headshot on

sweet perch
#

is it ok to call him mccree

proven thorn
# sweet perch is it ok to call him mccree

I would argue yes and no.
I don’t think most people would genuinely care. Ive played overwatch for a long time so I just say mcree from memory instead of fumbling or my usual group getting confused since we’re in the same boat. Also some people might not know why it was changed.

On the flip side it’s more respectful to call him his new name to the people the original “name” affected. Regardless, if I had someone say “please don’t call him that” I’d stop saying it around them as best I can

#

also do we have it actually in writing anywhere how the matchmaking works for stadium

#

As in the whole fresh MMR situation

ember kettle
#

I might have to get off of Juno for more reliable climbing trying to get to pro

#

Actual healing consistentally and the suzus might be beneficial alot

#

as much as i want to juno

#

Annnd first game of the morning. 76 mercy

#

SO FUN FACING THIS EVERY GAME

neon galleon
ember kettle
#

Finally kill 76. OH LOOK. FREE MERCY REVIVE

#

Im so sick and tired of this broken ass fucking combo

#

They need to remove it from the fuckinng game

ember kettle
#

And just provides better safety

#

The existence of suzu already makes kiriko signifanctly better than juno

#

Oh ashe bombs? Suzu.
Junker ult? Suzu.
Ana antis? Suzu.
D.va ult? Screw going for cover. Suzu invu. it.
Rein ult? Suzu before it goes off to invul it.
etc.

#

Reaper ult too close? Suzu it and dash out

half barn
#

Rein ult suzu doesn’t work on in stadium iirc

void pawn
#

kiriko is only good if youre REALLY good at hitting headshots

ember kettle
#

not to mention one of the best escapes in the game minus sombra. but shes not in stadium

half barn
#

You can barely tell the nerf ngl

ember kettle
#

Yes missle build is good. But kiriko just shoots ahead

#

In terms of just living

neon galleon
ember kettle
#

Its why you swift step out

#

Hes only ever ulting you as the support

#

Not everyones gonna be in range

void pawn
#

lucio is very good at negating the juno build if you get the beat on amp ability

#

or if your teammates are smart, just speed them away

ember kettle
#

Junos good for damage, Kirikos better of overall "fuck the enemy" survival.

#

Is how it chalks up to be

void pawn
#

true

#

but i think lucio is best ohohoh

#

moira is ass though i swear i lose everytime im paired with one

#

thankfully there are like 2 moira players in stadium

ember kettle
#

Also kiriko buffs

#

Like... non stop

#

If you go ofudos

#

Just giving your team permanent movement speed and attack speed

void pawn
#

true

#

i wonder what abilities junkrat would have

ember kettle
#

Im not saying one is overall better

void pawn
#

they should give junkrat and ability where he can increase tire speed by 50% but lose control similar to that one april fools update

ember kettle
#

This mccree did nothing all game

#

4 rounds of getting stomped and him doing nothing

#

Seriously though that little section in the rank divisoins saying "elite gains more than they lose" is a factual lie

#

I wish I could post the screenshot but a single loss is 50 and a win is 10

#

Like.

#

Also I need them to bring kirikos best skin back

#

Her time keeper skin

ember kettle
#

You can still spam healing orbs, while getting actual healing buffing and more consistent damage out f your m1 if you go weapon power

#

But everyones stuck on the 198231902381902 balls build.

#

When instead you can throw 1 ball, then your damage beam becomes aoe and shreds, and your weapon power makes your heal mist not tickle etc

neon galleon
#

At least they’re not the supports that only focus on bulk-

ember kettle
#

I mean i get 1-2 survival perks on kiri atm depending.

#

I almost alwyas get double jump

#

the movement speed + double jump helps more than you would think

#

The other ones just the 100 armor blue perk

void pawn
ember kettle
#

Does more than enough

void pawn
#

to be fair theres literally no reason to play anyone except juno lucio kiri imo

ember kettle
#

I mean considerng I am a kiriko main in normal games

#

Id be playing juno normal games too but I came back after her release and doing straight stadium

#

So im okay with them being good

#

They arent overbearing imho like mercy is

#

Mercy just provides too much

#

WHY IS EVERY CASSIDY ON MY TEAM DOG SHIt

#

just press your right mouse button.

neon galleon
#

And for some reason this keeps happening with Mercy even though she literally has a power that could solve that problem just fine-

ember kettle
#

I meeean mercy sommewhat

#

kinda makes sense

#

You are usually sometimes dashing into the enemies and kinda a sitting target while reviving

#

Esp until you get the revive range boost

#

And you are also a sitting target in air technically

#

against people with good aimm

#

Esp against a 76 cassidy

neon galleon
# ember kettle And you are also a sitting target in air technically

Not really? As long as you have good movement when Valkyrie is active the only thing that can realistically kill you is 1 gigantic burst of damage when you’re airborne, especially if you picked up the power that automatically applies both your beams when you’re using Valkyrie, which unironically means Mercy can actually join in on the offense when she is ulting

ember kettle
#

BRO WE WAS WINNING. WHY ARE WE JUST WALKING INTO THE ZARYA MOIRA 1v5

#

WHAT ARE YOU DOING YOU DONKEYS

#

WE HAD THAT

#

Holy fucking biggest throw of the century

ruby cradle
#

Moira is actually F tier

#

Ana seems kinda mid though the nano perk kinda crazy

void pawn
ruby cradle
#

Though Juno ult kind of is already a team wide nano

void pawn
#

and considering there are a LOT of genji and reaper mains right now, its probably not ideal

ruby cradle
#

Genji is so crazy

#

Deflect blade perk wins every duel in R1 and R2

#

Then dash bleed perks and get a bunch of ability power

#

Unstoppable

ember kettle
#

Bro what is this team DOING

#

HOW ARE THERE STILL PLAYERS LIKE THIS IN ELITE

#

Cassidy is going the auto aim within 9 meters bullshit when he should just be pressing fan the hammer that close

#

He has no mag size boosts

#

doesnt have the bonus damage power

#

YOU ARE IN ELITE. STOP USING EXAMPLE BUILDS.

earnest gazelle
#

I GOT THE DVA WIN

ember kettle
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I KITSUNE RUSHED. HOW DID WE LOSE A FIGHT WHEN THEY USED NO ULTS

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EXCUSE ME

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Theres no fucking way this is elite

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My team are playing like a bunch of fucking god damn bronze

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Im back to elite 4 now

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I love it

neon galleon
ember kettle
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Im legit never getting pro

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Not if they keep giving me these bronze team mates

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That are auto building the slop blizzard gives and dont know how to fucking stay grouped and not overextend.

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How are players this bad in elite

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nice ult junker. shame im on kiriko

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PEOPLE STOP RUNNING AROUND BEHIND WALLS AWAY FROM YOUR HEALERS

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I cant fucking heal you behind walls

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Its legit safer to stad in the open because atleast I can heal you

neon galleon
# ember kettle How are players this bad in elite

Probably cause Elite is technically the equivalent to Plat, also cause you literally don’t lose points in the first 2 tiers so it’s entirely possible players that should have stayed in those lower tiers got carried through the third tier

ember kettle
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PLAT PLAYERS SHOOULDNT BE FUCKING BAD

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you should still have a fucking brain in fucking plat

neon galleon
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You’d think that but I had too many matches in regular comp that said otherwise, part of why I haven’t touched it all season

ember kettle
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19k round 1??? the fuck

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You arent getting that if you dont win

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Never base a build on winnin

neon galleon
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I don’t even think you can reliably get 19k even if you win if you aren’t one of the 4 heroes that can reliably both deal damage and heal

ember kettle
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Annnd yet again we lose the round because people are overextending, leaving the point, getting out of healer los, and being punished for it

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Kirikos cash gain has got to be by far the most inconsistent out of any other healer

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I am always bottom

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She has absolutely no aoe damage and is so reliant on headshots that your damage is nonexistant

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And theres always so much damage going out you have to heal bot on her

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Even mercy seems to get better cash gain by just existing

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It takes so fucking long for kiriko to come onlne

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Like even with as good as suzu is. I dont think kiriko is oppressive enough at max build, to warrant not buffing her cash gain

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Suzu is a good combination of "strong but not opressive"

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Yeah it stops junker ult antis. But junker can still yell and swing her axe and 1 shot someone

stoic elm
half barn
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Her cash was just nerfed

ember kettle
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And I dont agree with it based off my experience playing her since

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She gets absolutely 0 fucking cash now

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It takes me what feels like playing perfectly for 4-5 rounds to get a single core perk

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Its fucking god damn miserable.

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Im stuck relying on fucking greens and shitty blues all game

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Because her damage is inconsistent as fuck since its single target projectile based headshot reliant

half barn
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I playing Kiri & Juno. Kiri cash nerf was needed. You’d do the same on Kiri and she was making loads. Which made it unfair for others for mvp. Her cash nerf made her the same as other supps

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I can get an epic in round 2 normally on Kiri, 3 if we lose

ember kettle
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??? I call literal bullshit

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Even selling all my items, on wins, i can not get a purple until round 3 minimum

half barn
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Sell all 3 greens

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I can get purple

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I always get an epic round 2 even if it means selling the green perks

ember kettle
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How? Even fucking Juno struggles to do that on a loss and she has better more consistent damage

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Theres legit no way

half barn
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Juno got a cash boost now - but you could if you were slightly more aggressive

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Push w tank

ember kettle
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I AM AS AGGRESSIVE AS I CAN BE. I HAVE TO BE HOLDING HEALING OR PEOPLE JUST GET 1 HSOT

half barn
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Heal botting won’t get you good cash tbf

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I 50/50 heal and damage

ember kettle
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If I stop healing, they are going to die

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I throw out damage as much as I can

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They are gurenteed dead if I dont heal

half barn
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Do you use comms & do you solo queue

ember kettle
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I only solo queue

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I dont have friends

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Let alone friends that play this game

half barn
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Then you should use comms

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If you don’t work as a team it won’t help

ember kettle
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I go to use comms and now im chat restricted for 2 weeks

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Because people are fucking stupid

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And refuse to play properly

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There is no working as a team with these donkeys

half barn
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You can’t always blame everyone else in all your losses

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When you’re the only consistent key in all games

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Some games sure, but no not all

ember kettle
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The consistent is my team overextending every game, getting out of my line of sight, not staying on objective, running into the enemy team 1v5 when both healers are dead from genji diving us and no one turning around, I can go on

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Yes. All of them.

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Every single last fucking one

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Its a team fucking game.

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And first and fore most. It always starts at a DPS gap.

half barn
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It is, but you’re with a different team every game. You can always do something better

ember kettle
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Are your dps on the same level as the enemy or better? No? You lose.

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Just straight up You lose.

ember kettle
earnest gazelle
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Stadium is miserable when you have to play a character you don't like, this MVP title sucks to get

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I can't do this crap man

half barn
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I’m also a support main, so I do know the struggles. But I also deal with a diving genji myself esp as Kiri/juno. and I always push with the team so they don’t go out of los

ember kettle
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Not to mention if I see a lucio on my team Hes almost always damage lucio and does absolutely fuck all with it and throws the game.

half barn
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Isn’t always possible, but the playstyle is diff to normal comp

ember kettle
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I fucking hate lucio players more than anyone

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Yeah if I try to push with these donkeys the way they ar epushing, Im goinng to be dead before they will be

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They just need to stop fucking overextending and pushing out of my LoS

errant vale
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nah im a god on lucio

ember kettle
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esp when the enemy team has a mei

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LETS OVEREXTEND oop mei wall

earnest gazelle
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What's the best Ashe build?

ember kettle
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JUST STAY ON THE FUCKING OBJECTIVE

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YOU HAVE NO ReASON NOT TO STAY ON THE FUCKING GOD DAMN OBJECTIVE

errant vale
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nah I got all star on lucio ill play how i want

neon galleon
void pawn
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idk i did it relatively easily

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im still on calibration in pro 3 as well

errant vale
void pawn
errant vale
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i just go full healing with the boop heal, double boop, and then the amp power

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i get beats every minute

void pawn
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i do wall boop > double boop > sound barrier 200 damage > healing on boop

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the sound barrier 200 damage is only worth it for the 20% increased ultimate charge

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i normally mix it with the other 20% increased ultimate charge upgrade

errant vale
void pawn
void pawn
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you build ult REALLY fast especially if you heal a decent amount

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i used to go full dps boop build for lower ranks of stadium but since people are better in pro i have to play support normally

errant vale
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that build is fun but also kinda troll if you cant get picks

ember kettle
neon galleon
ember kettle
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Upset I missed le seraphim

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I wanted the juno one