overwatch-serious

[gusty folio]

i think his weapon

[light violet]

I fear mauga does make more sense for s4

[toxic hamlet]

i fear

sense should no

[light violet]

Allegedly pretty much all of s4 revolves around mauga/vendetta vs junkers

[toxic hamlet]

how about that

[lusty aurora]

Im trying to learn Damage now. I was going to learn 3 heros. Is Soujourn, Hanzo, and Cassidy a good set?

[toxic hamlet]

sure

[light violet]

His mythic being for the season he’s front and centre in makes more sense than a season that focuses on Japan

[brave island]

They're all pretty strong so I don't see why not, even Sojourn + Cass alone is more than enough

[toxic hamlet]

how about sense no

[light violet]

We operate fully on sense in these parts buckaroo

[regal elbow]

theres not much variability

[toxic hamlet]

nuh uh

i champ w feet

you not

[light violet]

Yuh uh

[light violet]

https://tenor.com/view/take-away-pen-gif-13722371118464871400

[gusty folio]

that show was so good

[toxic hamlet]

ur a good show

[gusty folio]

omgg..

[heady kettle]

quit flirting

[toxic hamlet]

no

[heady kettle]

heimdalls gonna show up and spit lies

[toxic hamlet]

real

[somber atlas]

i have 2 mercy otp and a sym otp mercy banned in my rank up to gm

[toxic hamlet]

aura

[willow crest]

How the fuck do I counter sierra 😭😭

[thin shell]

Yall . It’s embarrassing in a high plat tank

[inland lintel]

How did Genji recieve only banger skins

What magic was expended on Genji

[thin shell]

But I’m fucking gold in support

And I’m a silver dps

Also why is sombra still being banned in 2026

[inland lintel]

1. Dont suck at positioning
2. Smoosh her when possible, smoosh her drone if not
3. Git gud

[somber atlas]

we lost really hard

[thin shell]

Been trying to play her in ranked and 8 out of 10 games she is getting banned

[somber atlas]

we ran winston-brig into a ram

[inland lintel]

Once you hit non metal ranks she never gets banned cause people there realise shes bad

[inland lintel]

Brig into Ram is a throw pick tbh🗿

[thin shell]

Is plat part of that rank cause even in plat 2 I see people banning her and Zaria

[inland lintel]

"Punch Punch No more support for you"

[thin shell]

Saw Zaria banned on junker town

[inland lintel]

Is platinum a metal🗿

[long yoke]

Nah

[somber atlas]

if we had a brawl tank it wouldn’t be bad but we had a winston

[thin shell]

Oh , I see what you did there

Funny

Darn

I’m no where near diamond level lmao

[inland lintel]

It forces Brig to be a lot more defensive since her usual survivability is entirely circumvented by the tank having 3 seconds to spare and rip her apart

[inland lintel]

Thats cause Zarya just aint fun to play against and diffs half the tank roster...

[thin shell]

She gets 3 shot though if she doesn’t have two supports up her ass

Imo when I face her I hard focus her supps cause most games in meta ranks

Supports only heal tanks

Dps never flank

It’s legit just spam down main simulator

[lusty aurora]

I was hoping to keep them similar enough to not shake up how I aim, but different enough in role to fit whatever situation. Soujorn for general and picking kills when enemies have good healers, Cassidy for playing enforcer and light flanking, Hanzo when the map or comp calls for it. All three want to click heads.

[inland lintel]

As a certified Domina enjoyer, running up and stunning a guy to death is QUITE effective in these "frontline face smashing" matches

[terse fjord]

this game blows me away

unironic hog player is telling me to hit champ and I’m a plat burger

cause I swapped mauga

in a quick play

[heady kettle]

fergus dingleton

[high quail]

TBF counterswapping in QP is petty

[gusty folio]

dont doxx me

[summer cairn]

Counter swapping roadhog in qp is ethical overwatch

[brave island]

Because hack and invisibility, I find that changes real quick once they encounter a decent Tracer, though

[broken lava]

hell ya! blizzard took one of my ideas for OW

ive been saying that they NEED to add ads to OW

[light violet]

China exclusive btw

https://tenor.com/view/lana-lana-del-rey-glitch-stan-twitter-dontusayso-gif-24595562

[broken lava]

why

wtf does china know abt a cheeseburger

[light violet]

Bc I fear Burger King does exist there

And netease are the ones that negotiated it

[broken lava]

but what about for the people who live in the home of the burger

[silk steeple]

consoomer pig upset that poor chinese netizens are allowed to have a few nice things

oi oi oi

[broken lava]

ads are a nice thing?

[light violet]

Also reminder netease would like all of these collabs 👀

[feral mango]

Half the tank roster is meh

[silk steeple]

frieren x ow

need dat

[feral mango]

No way we have mlp planned for ow 😭

[light violet]

It’s not necessarily planned

More so just netease want to see if people gaf

And they’ll see if it’s possible if so

[feral mango]

I assumed theyd have concepts of each of these tbh

[feral mango]

Ah

[terse fjord]

in my defence I was on doom first and they where on hog cass bastion mizuki

[feral mango]

Youd think theyd reach out first 🗿

[terse fjord]

so they had it coming for playing such a disgusting reddit comp

[light violet]

This survey for ow global is again just blizzard seeing if people gaf

[high quail]

I stand corrected that is worth going Mauga

[light violet]

They most likely haven’t negotiated at all for most of them

[feral mango]

You literally named 4 tapwater picks

[terse fjord]

I wouldn’t whip out the big mauga for just anyone

yeh but no fun for doomfist

[broken lava]

i think we need like, a microsoft copilot collab or turbotax

[terse fjord]

console does not concern itself with champ win rates when choosing a team comp

[sonic otter]

What would cod collab be i’m wondering? Just gun skins and myb price as cass and ghost as reaper

[feral mango]

Liberty mutual collab

[broken lava]

🔥 🔥 🔥

[light violet]

I assume either ow characters as iconic cod characters or something like the fort collab where cod gets OW skins

[feral mango]

I think we shoukd start doing really small and obscure collabs too

Like a mom and pop pizza shop mascot collab

[broken lava]

get a collab going for that korean convenience store down the street from me

[light violet]

With Microsoft now most likely pushing towards exclusivity fallout, Skyrim and cod are all likely things for promo of their franchises

[feral mango]

Venture bros collab tho

Please

[broken lava]

ok

[feral mango]

All talon and ow do is larp

[broken lava]

that ones actually good

[clever coral]

does ANYONE care about that franchise at this point

[feral mango]

It fits the universe id say

[broken lava]

I DO!!!

[feral mango]

Im literally in a community that still has weekly watch parties for it

Rein could be truckulues

[broken lava]

harvey birdman collab?

[feral mango]

Cass could be action man

[feral mango]

Shiiii

That might lean too hard into other Saturday morning cartoons tho

[light violet]

Tomb raider x ow could happen later this year 👀

[broken lava]

id drop stacks for a birdman skin

[feral mango]

Phara could be birdwoman

Lowkirk

Call blizzard

[broken lava]

kirkenuinely ya

[trail canyon]

How do i fix the for you store its been the same shit for a month

[light violet]

You can’t it’s just designed to be shit

[trail canyon]

For fucks sake

[feral mango]

Going into maramillions vault "choices picked just for you"

---> characters i never play

[broken lava]

is it not sposed to sell skins?

[clever coral]

i tested maximilien vault on my alt that has 0 tank games played ever and it was 5 tank skins

[feral mango]

I pay spotify to not know the definition of "shuffle"

[feral mango]

They just put them in a metaphorical bingo machine and pull out whatever the fuck they feel

[light violet]

It’s meant to give the illusion of personalised choices

[feral mango]

Sbould say "deals picked at random for you"

[light violet]

But it’s not really meant to sell anything

Blizzard want the overpriced bundles in the main store to sell

Not discounted or old shit in just for you

[broken lava]

wonder if that tactic works

i see the logic but i doubt it does

“anchor” pricing or whatever the fuck

[feral mango]

🐋

[long yoke]

And only changed once every 6 months maybe

[trail canyon]

Fuck blizzard

[long yoke]

Istg ive had the same 2 wuyang bundles in there

For months

[trail canyon]

Fuck the store and the prices

[broken lava]

just like

[trail canyon]

I had the same two skins aswell and only yesterday they left just for them to come back today

[thin shell]

Yall

Ow Reddit is cooked

[feral mango]

Tbf

[broken lava]

whats even the point of looking at max’s vault if not to try to get skins that you can’t buy in the shop anymore?

[thin shell]

Met someone saying sombra counters brig

[feral mango]

What other company lets you turn MMO money into cash you can spend on or in other games

[thin shell]

And brig loses to sombra every fight due to hack

[long yoke]

Yeah but theyre like plat

Thats why

[thin shell]

It’s over

[feral mango]

To get skins that are for characters I plat

Ram has no skins bro

[long yoke]

Sombra counters every support in the game guys

[thin shell]

Don’t insult plat players

[long yoke]

She hacks them and they die!!!

[thin shell]

Pls

[long yoke]

Cant brig like

Shield bash away before she even hacks

[broken lava]

ya he has like 2 and they’re both premium limited edition

[long yoke]

9/10 times

[feral mango]

Sombra counters the invis checking anti dive mini rein

[thin shell]

Brig Sheild isn’t a button unlocked

[long yoke]

My just for you has a ram skin

He must have tons

[thin shell]

I was so fucking suprised when I read it

[long yoke]

Ignore that its a recolour of his first ever skin

[feral mango]

Theyre all just recolors

[thin shell]

Omfg

[feral mango]

Half of rams skin is him looking the same but his scarf is different

[thin shell]

I feel I’m being rage baited

[trail canyon]

I love ur pfp

[feral mango]

And they look like butt

[thin shell]

Thx , I love the overhaul goat , sadly he got shafted for plot reasons

[feral mango]

No you dont

[trail canyon]

What if we removed sierra from the game

[broken lava]

nah i copped the devil skin and its gas

[trail canyon]

Maybe

[trail canyon]

Trueee

[high quail]

There's a smaller skill gap between silver and diamond than there is between diamond and champ, ngl

[feral mango]

I think it looks a lil too goofy tbh

[broken lava]

its ICE

[feral mango]

Its buns

[long yoke]

Silver and master

[feral mango]

Literal dookie

[light violet]

We have a chance of this being the Halloween terror bundle in s5 👀

[broken lava]

wait i cant capitalize ice like that it doesnt work

[trail canyon]

Oh my gosh

The mei and wuyang are beautiful

[high quail]

Obsession collab when?

[light violet]

This one as well

[light violet]

👀

[feral mango]

I could live with that mei and ram skin.... widow just stole dvas skin

[trail canyon]

Heat

[terse fjord]

Greedy ram players stealing all the rein and kiri skins smh

[light violet]

Kiri’s a major lore character next season she’s getting like 16 skins immediately

[feral mango]

Does rams chunks come out of the football

[light violet]

https://tenor.com/view/cynthia-erivo-speechless-lying-lie-meme-gif-4326958293716425845

[terse fjord]

NOOOOOOOOO

[feral mango]

Or does he throw a bunch of tiny footballs really fast

[trail canyon]

Cant wait

[light violet]

I assume the football is like the orb within his staff

Or it’s just for a victory Pose

[feral mango]

Nah he should throw hundreds of tiny footballs.

[inner kernel]

Man hazard is silly

[terse fjord]

I love doing 400 burst damage

[inner kernel]

14 wins- 5 losses

[feral mango]

Thank god I dont like hazards primary fire cus i wouldnt stop playing him otherwise

[inner kernel]

Anywho enough comp for me for now

Queues are also back up to long

And Its 6v6 freja time

[feral mango]

I wanna go home and go to bed chat

[clever coral]

then go home and go to bed

[feral mango]

Im only 3 and a half hours into this bum ahhh work shift

Ill go home and nap on lunch tho

[fallen swan]

hello ows

just went 4-12 on widow someone call the big leagues

[echo pike]

Hey

[clever coral]

holy shit it's mauga overwatch

[fallen swan]

if u think about it

i carried

[lunar charm]

does anyone elses frames plummet for like 3s every now and then recently?

came back from a break and now teamfights become a slideshow for like 2-3s before returning to normal and my game never did this before

[fathom ingot]

watching na ranked gameplay these guys are surely worse than diamond in my region 😭 😭

[broken flint]

How should I choose a main? I want to stick one, but I feel like I struggle sticking with one a lot.

[fathom ingot]

play what you like

[clever coral]

there is no way there is actually a difference

i legit vpn'd to eu when i was doing diamond games on tank

region sucks to play in cause if i get bad players i cant even tell them what to do

[broken flint]

Idrk what I like. I’ve tried out everysingle character(Except for Sierra) but I end up liking one then try another character and end up thinking I like them more. Then it’s just an endless cycle

[fathom ingot]

i didnt try na ranked myself but watching these clips

and my friend tried playing

at na with vpn on

he went 30-2 and most dmg as illari

he had 12 kd average

na is just worse

eu idk

[clever coral]

i remember i had like a mid-gm game where i got a random tourist bastion from na west that somehow ended up on east asia server

[fathom ingot]

also watching at a youtuber analyzing na gm genji otp shows how shit na gm is

[clever coral]

i was the only person in the lobby who could speak english to him

[kind bluff]

So as a fairly new player, Reaper is a goods pick to kinda otp for ranked 5v5? (solo)

[west niche]

@clever coral mr grayell

[clever coral]

hello heimdall

[west niche]

is there a possible way to not "telegraph" shatter

almost everytime even in high elo

ppl know rein has shatter

and know when he will use it

[inner kernel]

Just pop it in the most bad times

That way they can never expect it.

Joking

[clever coral]

yea i mean ppl will just know approximately when u have shatter and play around it

i dont play rein but when i know enemy rein has shatter i do have to play around it and that does come at a certain cost to my positioning

like u cant just perfectly play around it forever

[small hamlet]

yeah hes pretty self sufficient and hes pretty strong rn

[lusty aurora]

Is this chat a social channel? Should I be using one of the Coaching/Advice channels for questions instead?

[inland lintel]

Use it while falling to fuck with the enemy

[small hamlet]

its like a more social and ig laid back version of the coaching/advice channels

but people in here give advice n stuff

[lusty aurora]

Heard. I'll dig through some of those channels for the right place. Ty.

[inland lintel]

You can ask questions obv, but more indepth questioning lines or reviews are for coaching channel

[sharp charm]

Why is mauga considered so bad lol I think hes fun

[inland lintel]

He... isnt...🗿

Hes considered one of the better tanks power wise

[slow hull]

solo ult the fuck out of someone

[broken lava]

flank shatter

be like Bumper

[willow crest]

Guys so how the hell do I get my mastery up this process is so slow for some reason

[haughty burrow]

No, even the voice line makes it ez to react to

[dusky pelican]

They just made it faster

[balmy hazel]

Hello my fellow serious bronze players.

[haughty burrow]

Hey im silver 4 now

[sonic otter]

Myb a dumb question but isn’t he too loud for flanks? Like even when i couldn’t recognize many walking sounds his loud ass was still recognizable 😭

[unreal tide]

could be a driver issue

[inland lintel]

Plebian, such low rank, I gaze down upon ye from my silver 2 podium

[broken lava]

oh its not a dumb question

he is too loud to lol

dont do that

[lunar charm]

damn i might just be cooked then

[sonic otter]

Alright thanks

[unreal tide]

just crouch bro

[inland lintel]

Ya hes quite easy to pick out
"FLANKING"
"Reapers gonna be comin from that door in 3, 2, 1-"
Domina shove stun kills him

[balmy hazel]

We're the same me and you

[inland lintel]

This has happened like 5 times so far

[unreal tide]

hear me out, support that makes teammate footsteps quiet

[sonic otter]

I don’t play rein my trio are dva winton jq myb i should expand the roster tho

[haughty burrow]

What an ego. holy

[west niche]

i tried flanks but rein is fat as hell and footsteps louder than roadhogs

[balmy hazel]

Zenyatta next question

[haughty burrow]

Remember where you came from bud

[broken lava]

nah you dont need rein

[inland lintel]

I cant tell if your joking or if your actually offended and it scares me

[haughty burrow]

Im joking lol

[unreal tide]

teammate footsteps, not just their own smh

[sonic otter]

All the tanks i like are non shield for some reason lol

[balmy hazel]

Have zenyatta carry them

[sonic otter]

Well winton

But

[feral mango]

Vanilla ice cream + jq

[sonic otter]

I see it as a different shield

[unreal tide]

shield tanks are lowkey boring

[sonic otter]

Doom would be there if i don’t fold over the moment they counter swap

[feral mango]

Just dont let them swap ez pz

[sonic otter]

Fairs lmao

[west niche]

its only boring if u make it boring

[daring hornet]

Like mauga peak character

[sonic otter]

Mauga is my 4/5th yeah 😭

Only non shield tank i despise is hog

[west niche]

hog is not a tank dw

fake

[sonic otter]

Yeah that’s why

Excuse for a tank

[foggy halo]

Low cortisol gaming goes hard

[west niche]

hes one of the only tanks that need to kill to create space

no other tanks need to

[daring hornet]

I just think he’s hilarious, like wdym I crit with my foot 💀

[feral mango]

Yea but what other tank feels as giddy as hog

[foggy halo]

I mean..... have you ever seen a curb stomp?

It tracks

If not I can show you a really really visceral recreation in a movie.

[clever coral]

i think it's great to not have seen one actually

[foggy halo]

dw there is no actual stomping

[unreal tide]

announcement guys

i just sneezed

thank you for listening

[clever coral]

bless u bro

[feral mango]

Sometimes playing ow after work is comparable to scraping the inside of my eye sockets with screwdrivers

[west niche]

@toxic hamlet do u have an alt

[daring hornet]

Not until mauga, and now I have, it’s hilarious, especially when you use cardiac before it and get like 175 hp for absolutely free

[feral mango]

😪😴😪😴😪😴

[inland lintel]

Oh, my favourite hobby!
I do it every day!

[unreal tide]

he says while queueing for another

[west niche]

objective based game

idk how i got 2k healing

[toxic hamlet]

not under that name

[inland lintel]

Ramattra getting out mitigated is WILD
Even if it is rein🗿

[sonic otter]

Does passive healing from minor perk count?

[west niche]

hold on

maybe it does

i use it alot so i dont waste my supports resources

[unreal tide]

i believe so yes, thats how ive been getting healing on freja

[west niche]

and let them heal my dps

[foggy halo]

Ok after having rewatched the clip I'm thinking of...
maaaaaaaaaaybe I can't actually share it in here. Because the stomp is very much in camera

[sonic otter]

Oh true freja has it too

[foggy halo]

And there are no words to describe just how fucked it is

[sonic otter]

I heard people usually go the other one with double updraft tho no?

[foggy halo]

So who wants to see it in DMs?

[sonic otter]

I prefer the healing one

[west niche]

i mean

rein cant rlly do much

ram has more things to do

[unreal tide]

comp dependent tbh

[inland lintel]

Rein does farm mitigated if he isnt flanking sadly🗿

Is doubling the enemy tanks mitigated as Domina a feat?

[west niche]

having less deaths as rein is ironic

considering hes the "feed" tank

[feral mango]

Tbh ion block often

Unless in ukt

Ult

[inland lintel]

Ram can easily get smooshed if there isnt enough heals to offset the block damage

[west niche]

rein can outbrawl ram

however this is 5v5 game

[inland lintel]

Well you sir are WRONG and are a DISGRACE of a Ramattra

Have a good day

[west niche]

if i try to swing vs ram i just get 19393939 dmg from his team

[west niche]

le bastion and ana

[inland lintel]

Ram vs Rein is the definition of keep away
Rein gets in swing distance he wins
Ram pokes him to death otherwise

[foggy halo]

I feel really weird now cause I really wanna share this clip but I absolutely cannot post it here

[feral mango]

What's the point of blocking when my whole team got themselves killed and im in a 1v4 when I can just punch kill both their supports and die on purpose so I dont stagger

[west niche]

ram needs to respect rein brawl but tbf most reins are idiots and take giga dmg then ram just goes nemesis to finish him off

[inland lintel]

I usually dont have a dead team until AFTER the time to block is over myself, sooo

[sonic tundra]

when did the vampire kiriko skin come out

ive never seen anyone use this but somehow i got it

[inland lintel]

Couldnt have said it better myself

[sonic otter]

Think it was behind the 40$ premium bp bundle

[feral mango]

🗿🚬
🗿💨
Yea ion know chief I think block is a crutch

[sonic tundra]

holy shit

[sonic otter]

With that white robotic ram skin

Well

[sonic tundra]

40$ skin from the common box 🤑

[sonic otter]

*more robotic

[sonic tundra]

did they nerf kiri yet

[inland lintel]

I hit 100 health, I go nemesis and start blocking till full health

Shrimple as that

[feral mango]

Yea but that doesnt happen for me. I block and my health just continues to drop cus my support is allergic to looking at me

[sonic otter]

Yeah her suzu no longer heals for cleansing negative effects

[feral mango]

It just drops slower

[sonic otter]

But don’t think that changed a lot

[west niche]

pretty sure rein is top 2 in terms of brawl damage but ppl tend to forget that cuz rein dosent swing his hammer 90% of the time

[sonic tundra]

is she still the best supp

[inland lintel]

Oh I yell at my supports in chat pre game to stick close to me so I dont deal with that

We must ahve 2 VERY different Ram experiences lol

[pseudo swan]

yes she is

[inland lintel]

100 dmg per swing is always funny

[sonic tundra]

didnt they do that overheal nerf or something

[pseudo swan]

it doesnt matter how many nerfs she get she will still be the best support

[sonic tundra]

couldve sworn i saw a kiri nerf in the last patchnotes

[feral mango]

Most my time in comp playing ram is playing ram cus he's the only tank I can be as self sufficient as I can be on

[west niche]

its the swing + firestrike + swing combo

[inland lintel]

Only suzu heal reduced

[feral mango]

Hog can heal himself but even so im not 1v5ing

[sonic otter]

Tbf if they implement that change to suzu that they withdrew with midseason patch that could be big

[clever coral]

suzu doesnt heal extra 30 when cleansing a debuff anymore

[sick torrent]

i just played against a 5 stack bot team.....

[inland lintel]

While im definitely enjoying Ram less since I picked up Domina, I love being the front line and focusing on what im doing

[sonic tundra]

do i need to keep talking often for regular

[unreal tide]

dogshit bottom tier forced to healbot character mercy is better now

[clever coral]

yes

[sick sinew]

Something I’ll never understand is if a hero is “so bad for the game” why don’t they get changed? Maybe I’m stupid but it keeps me wondering

[sonic tundra]

aw

[unreal tide]

one could say youd need to talk pretty

regularly

[clever coral]

truth gravitic flux

[clever coral]

like who

[sick sinew]

Like I don’t think she’s bad for the game completely, but for example mercy. Everyone seems to hate her and they dodge when they get her on their team

[west niche]

yeah idk who else can outbrawl rein besides orisa

[clever coral]

wow your pfp is so awesome

[west niche]

like 1 on 1 confrontation

[sick sinew]

Yours too

Ur more round

[feral mango]

Same... only with a well coordinated team do i actually get the chance to block. Which i only end up getting when I scrim. Otherwise I might as well just tape my m1 button down and hold w key at a support to make sure they get a full team wipe

[inland lintel]

The bears are teaming up! Quick, stop them!

[clever coral]

i think mercy is overhated but some heroes do get scheduled for reworks for good reasons

[sonic otter]

Was gonna say mauga but remembered rein can just use his shield when he shouts lmao

[sick sinew]

Yeah but like the hate is SO extreme I just wonder if she’s not as bad as players think and in reality that’s the reason why she isn’t reworked or reverted

[next moat]

either sierra is broken, or my dps are too dumb to shoot her turret

[west niche]

mauga theortically outbrawls rein in terms of raw dmg

[sick sinew]

Yes both

[light violet]

She is a pretty bad hero but she’s not reworked bc she’s a cash cow

[west niche]

also shooting shield is just gonna stalemate rein and mauga

so its just gon be backline battle

sooo uh

[inland lintel]

It appears I get more healbot teammates than you...

[coarse yoke]

I just had a very interesting match. Enemy tank just keeps throwing but getting himself out of bounds… and he was on the defense team in kings row

[haughty burrow]

Tracer and winton

[light violet]

Her issue is the fact she makes ximming even more of an issue on console and her healing output is shite compared to others + she can’t really kill anything herself

[unreal tide]

i hope dmon is a proper gamer who screams out slurs

dva is unrealistic representation

[inland lintel]

🗿

[haughty burrow]

[west niche]

tracer veritical mobilitt

game is cooked

gg

[rare hearth]

every hitscan player would swap to dmon

[light violet]

Speaking of d.mon I found a slightly clearer and brighter version of her spotlight concept

[inland lintel]

Dmon needs to have SEVERAL cans of mountain dew in the mech, and chew chips VERY loudly

[light violet]

The shield is definitely the shorter thing on her right arm

[inland lintel]

Left arm*

[unreal tide]

babe wake up popcorp uploaded

[tidal rune]

we lowk need a dominican hero

or puerto rican

[light violet]

I watched part of this earlier

[rare musk]

i need a jamaican hero

[light violet]

He didn’t include numbani for some reason

[rare musk]

ASAP

[west niche]

best to live is on samoa in mauga's bedroom

[light violet]

REAL

[inland lintel]

What nationality is Venture?
Domina?

[west niche]

@light violet agrees with me no cap on winston bro

[light violet]

Nuh uh

[tidal rune]

i assume like junkertown is the worst and they put like oasis or something as best

[light violet]

Venture is Canadian Mexican iirc

Domina idk

[tidal rune]

domina is indian

[west niche]

mexican canadian

[feral mango]

Lil bit of cheeto dust smudge on the ui

[tidal rune]

think she speaks punjabi

[west niche]

domina is british indian

[sonic otter]

Domina indian venture is from the rock nation

[west niche]

technically

[long yoke]

Junkertown

[tidal rune]

domina is posh

[feral mango]

Venture got a tunnel under the US or something?

[west niche]

am i high or domina is british indian

[inland lintel]

Na, its cracked from all the thrown moniters

[west niche]

i swear

[spiral fractal]

whats up brotein shakes

[west niche]

yes

[sonic otter]

Think you are right lemme check

[feral mango]

Is venture a drug smuggler

[long yoke]

Yes

[west niche]

@inland lintel domina is british indian

[sonic otter]

Without a doubt

[light violet]

Ow wiki just says she’s Indian but based in formerly London

[ebon jungle]

when new battlepass

[light violet]

June 16th

[ebon jungle]

how long is that

[west niche]

why do u think they have so many "rocks"

[ebon jungle]

is that 2 months

[light violet]

27 days

[unreal tide]

ok so if youre finnish do not look her up without putting overwatch in the query unless youre looking for a dominatrix

[ebon jungle]

what

[clever coral]

yeah

[west niche]

best place is to marry domina tbh
u get all the expensive shit

[inland lintel]

This wasnt a given?

[teal blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerd-meme-radar-gif-26497624

[rare musk]

https://tenor.com/view/pibble-gif-8404313342629206599

[west niche]

live in paradise

[ebon jungle]

when are they nerfing junkrat

[light violet]

Never

[clever coral]

https://tenor.com/view/tung-tung-tung-sahur-67-67-meme-fortnite-emote-gif-13299458995536216312

[feral mango]

Actually speaking on this. Ive seen that symetra is the only confirmed hero to have autism. I find it hard to belive venture doesnt.

[ebon jungle]

why

[unreal tide]

not to me apparently

[feral mango]

Why would they

[rare musk]

sixxxxx…..

[light violet]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HHBf8n0aIAAJ69E.webp

[ebon jungle]

he is op, he damage is too much

[rare musk]

seven!

[unreal tide]

sidenote who the fuck is catbat

[sonic otter]

Just avoid small rooms and corridors and he’s free eats no?

[feral mango]

Dont walk into spam

[inland lintel]

Venture already has like 32 represented things I think we need to spread it out🗿

[dawn elk]

most random game mode in history of ow... why they just don't bring 2021 ow back ?

[brave island]

I was curious about that, too, would've made sense and still would've been fun.

[long yoke]

Why would they bring back 2021 ow

[feral mango]

Brother. Lack of volume control for voice... has way too many rocks... no understanding of social queues....

What's symetra got? That shes good with tech?

[long yoke]

This is the most average gane ever

[light violet]

Crash bandicoot non binary character

[long yoke]

They're bringing back 2020 next week iirc

[light violet]

They mention in the video that they were revealed at the same time as blizzard confirming pharah and bap

[unreal tide]

what a random thing to refer to

[void pilot]

why doesn’t blizzard put a right side entrance on blizz world first point choke? are they stupid?

[long yoke]

Yes

[inland lintel]

Lack of volume control does not equal just being loud generally

Your second point... Huh?

I dont see any evidence of the third aside from "Quirky"

[void pilot]

do we know which maps are getting confirmed reworks

[west niche]

wouldnt mind more representation

[light violet]

No

We just know that there’s 2 more reworks this year

[fickle blade]

she's skinny and the best and most powerful architecht

[void pilot]

i know people like venture irl and they’re just adhd not autism

[long yoke]

Am I the only one who thought Antarctic peninsula was fine prework

[light violet]

S4 and 5 or 6 (most likely 5)

[void pilot]

BLIZZARD!!! NUKE PARAISO, AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[long yoke]

Delete kings row pls

[jade copper]

They got to have that undiagnosed autism

[long yoke]

And then rework map voting into non existence

[void pilot]

people only hate kings row because it gets picked too much

[unreal tide]

technically adhd is on the spectrum, for some reason

[fickle blade]

it's clear u havent read any of her lore

[clever coral]

it's a good map

[void pilot]

map voting is fine i like having agency

[long yoke]

The agency to mindlessly click kings row

[jade copper]

I dont think it is

[void pilot]

diff kind then

[unreal tide]

eichen first

[void pilot]

i like random maps

[west niche]

i cant name 1 tank that rein has a good match up against

[light violet]

I think eichenwalde is pretty likely ngl

[west niche]

💔

[void pilot]

and i hate having to pick paraiso kings row numbani

[long yoke]

Eichen is fine because I like doing the shield bash launch as brig

[haughty burrow]

This game got fucked so hard bc of the buyout lol

[feral mango]

You can do allat and not be autistic tho

[unreal tide]

kings is fine tho imo, third is kinda shit but nothing egregiously bad

[feral mango]

Bro is LITERALLY eating rocks

[jade copper]

Kinda?

[clever coral]

why

[long yoke]

Kings row is

Highkey overrated

And kinda ass

[high quail]

King's Row is overrated but it isn't bad

[light violet]

I like kings row but I wouldn’t be against a rework

[jade copper]

Bad first point and bad third

2nd point is just ehh

[upper elbow]

i HATE paraiso

[unreal tide]

and eichen has a bad first, second, third, fourth, fifth

[light violet]

We all do

[long yoke]

Idm second

[west niche]

maybe venture jus a dumbahh

[long yoke]

First and third are blegh tho yeha

[upper elbow]

my lobbies always vote it

[feral mango]

I know myself and thats all im going to say on that

[clever coral]

"the points are bad" ok but why

[fickle blade]

obviously but you're acting like her being confirmed to be autistic came out of nowhere

[frigid quiver]

If I get spam reported by an entire team am I fucked 🥀

[west niche]

as a tank getting nano is basically hoping ur support is kind enough

[feral mango]

No i asked why

[west niche]

no

[jade copper]

0 flank or meaningful side lanes

[light violet]

I don’t have much of a problem with 3rd point on kings row other than it’s visually boring

[long yoke]

First point is basically pushing through a choke until you either get farmed or win instantly

You basically just run it down main until the timer runs out

[dawn elk]

see this @feral mango

[long yoke]

Or you cap

[frigid quiver]

Thanks

[upper elbow]

yeah i got banned for saying widow diff and her whole group reported me lmfaooo

[long yoke]

Theres nowhere to go

[high quail]

NGL Master's seems like OTP hell

[upper elbow]

my friends bf got permad for saying gg

[feral mango]

Im at work it'll take 6 years to load

[clever coral]

isnt that every hybrid map

[fickle blade]

it's kind of obvious

[west niche]

reports only impact if ur getting reported across multiple games or if u sent a bad message

[jade copper]

Exactly

[frigid quiver]

I was lowkey egoing with 76 and got toxic

[long yoke]

[frigid quiver]

Oh shittings

[long yoke]

Kill every hybrid map

[feral mango]

🗿

[upper elbow]

in my exp and tons of other ppl it doesn’t matter what u say if u get 3+ reports in one game ur getting a warning or a ban

[feral mango]

Not really

[brave void]

any of u watched the boys finale

[long yoke]

Yeaj

Imo its pretty good but very predictable and safe

[high quail]

It was also every 2CP map and look what happened to those

[long yoke]

The scaling is super wack but it doesnt bother me toooo much

[fickle blade]

yes it is what

[high quail]

How bad at their job are blizzard report reviewers

[clever coral]

tbh i quite like king's row out of all the hybrid maps, especially in higher rank where u actually fight for space instead of drooling on the keyboard and perma fighting until eventually attackers take point

[long yoke]

Ai automod

If chat gets reported enough you get automodded

And you can get it manually reviewed iirc

[brave void]

I was kinda annoyed at the deeps death

[upper elbow]

it literally feels like ai bots that run the report system not even people. i tried to appeal my ban for saying widow diff and i got the same bot response 3 times

[long yoke]

If it detects bad language it just shoots you though

[feral mango]

Bro i used to play symetra and mei only on dps when I first started playing the game. Nothing about her hints to any sort of diagnosis of anything to me.

[long yoke]

No review

[west niche]

its usually across multiple games and not 1 game unless u said toxic stuff at 1 game but i never been banned or warned cuz im not toxic

[west niche]

widow diff is considered toxic

[jade copper]

Blizzard isnt exactly known for their support systems

[brave void]

I reported 1 guy for saying the n word

I wonder what happened to him

[west niche]

its flagged by the ai

[long yoke]

It was super predictable imo but I dont think it was a bad death really?

[upper elbow]

that’s not toxic enough for a month ban be so for real LMFAO

this is why ai needs to be obliterated

[jade copper]

W spoilers guys

[long yoke]

Not the same kind of ai

[brave void]

it was pretty brutal tho im surprised an octopus was able to go through his durability

[brittle mirage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1332083085017219076/1497310829031194634/image0.gif

[jade copper]

Not tags no nothing

Just straight spoilers

[brave void]

what have u been doing the whole day

[west niche]

yeah the bot is dumb but usually if theres "diff" you can get that against you, i'll suggest being careful

[brave void]

like genuinely

[upper elbow]

all ai needs to be. they have enough money to hire people to review reports lol

[high quail]

Why do high ranked Rein's just randomly swing their hammers?

[jade copper]

Not everybody watches things day 1

[long yoke]

||they say in one of the other episodes that supes are only tough on the outside and their insides are very fragile still||

[upper elbow]

yeah i just hardly speak after that cus it’s dumb lol

[long yoke]

No they dont lol

[west niche]

make fun of marvel
becomes like marvel

[long yoke]

Its a huge waste of money hireing hundreds if not low thousands

To manually review stuff

[brave void]

||so he went up the butt? LOL||

[long yoke]

Unless you want a backlog of m
Weeks

[upper elbow]

then they can spend money to fix the bot and detection

[velvet cove]

That’s just not true

[long yoke]

||yes||

[jade copper]

He said gg 5 times

[upper elbow]

it’s what i was told what do u want from me

[west niche]

||the tentacle went up his ass and killed him, supes are like turtles and only the outer skin is durable, inside is human||

[feral mango]

Venture bros is satire made from love of the genre.

The boys is satire made from hate of the genre.

[weary galleon]

Why would ever not swing your hammer

[velvet cove]

Im crine

[brave void]

it pissed me off cause the whole oil spill wasnt even his fault directly

[long yoke]

Ong

[jade copper]

The same way brigs swing their mace for no reason

[velvet cove]

Okay and I’m telling you it’s not true lmfao

[west niche]

good riddance from noir

[long yoke]

Nice noise

[upper elbow]

i really don’t care my point still stands that the report system is whack

[long yoke]

And no reason not to swing it

[high quail]

I thought it like was a tech or something

[brave void]

stimming

[jade copper]

Nah

[brave void]

like jow people quick melee

[jade copper]

Visual stim

[long yoke]

No its just rein and brig stimming

[jade copper]

Vendetta players do that too

[velvet cove]

It’s not and it works well

[brave void]

makes more sense with vendetta

[long yoke]

Vendetta gets a speed boost from it tho

[feral mango]

Whats wrong with just a lil bit of stimming

[brave void]

so u can get the overhead prep

[upper elbow]

L ragebait dttm

[long yoke]

That too

[high quail]

I think they do it so they can use the overhead swing to start

[jade copper]

Not in that way

Im talking just walking

Like back from spawn or whatever

[long yoke]

Movespeed boost

If you jump

For the over head

You go forwards slightly

[brave void]

u get like a small lunge for an airborne overhead

[jade copper]

Im ngl i just do it cause it looks and sounds nice

[long yoke]

Yeah same

[west niche]

@brave void ||homelander's speed was incredibly nerfed cuz of budget and they had to use wires instead of cgi, tbh the problem with strong characters is u need to nerf them so they other characters can keep up with him||

[long yoke]

I do it on brig too

But on ven it has a

Real reason

[brave void]

||homelander still did very very VERY well despite all that||

[chrome glen]

this 5v5 mode is actual slop but blizz neglects their 6v6 mode, do we all move to stadium?

[brave void]

||hes always in a 3v1 😂😂||

[jade copper]

Hell nah

[long yoke]

I think bliz would love that

They love stadium

[high quail]

Throwhardt Throwhog Throw Queen Throwfist Throw Rat Throwji Throwzo Throwermaker Throwcy Throwra Throweaver

[long yoke]

Their main modes suck lets move to their passion project

W boycott

[jade copper]

Throwwatch

[chrome glen]

at least stadium has passion put into it

[jade copper]

True

[iron meteor]

Thank you Marvel Rivals

[long yoke]

True

[fickle blade]

clearly since venture follows the often exaggerated stereotype and you seeing urself in venture while missing symmetra is honestly the funniest part

[chrome glen]

let's gigabuff our newest dps hero and then refuse to elaborate

[high quail]

I think the devs care about the main mode, just impossible to make everyone happy

[west niche]

||ragdolls ryan in early episodes with 1 hand, bombsight ragdolls butcher no difficulty, but homelander with v1 somehow struggles at the most critical moment while kimiko has anime flashbacks for 10 hours||

[ebon jungle]

why?

[west niche]

||the power scaling was just shit||

[brave void]

||that kimiko made me so FUCKING MAD you have no idea||

[chrome glen]

ask the ow devs, they won't elaborate

[long yoke]

||i didnt really like how they just sidelined marie either ngl||

[brave void]

||took everything that made soldier boy special||

[ebon jungle]

how

[feral mango]

I dont see much of myself in venture other than a lack of social etiquette

[brittle mirage]

i think overwatcg is fun thoughts

[long yoke]

||also they just dont address if Ryan still has powers or not at all which they probably should've?||

[west niche]

||made gen v useless, and "oH marie is homelander level!!!!"||

[brave void]

||they never answered that but id assume he didnt lose them since hes a biological supe?||

[balmy hazel]

Strongest DPS at metal ranks

[brave void]

||hl level but no control||

[long yoke]

||the ENTIRE last season of genv is her getting control||

[brave void]

starlight said she doesnt have control

[west niche]

||she controlled her powers at season 2||

[west niche]

writers forgot

like actually

[long yoke]

Bad writing

[west niche]

💔

[brave void]

writers prob wrote s5 before gen v2 s2

[long yoke]

||marie in the finale of genv is genuinely picking up like 5 people at once and controlling their blood||

[feral mango]

Seth Rogen writes for it of course he forgot

[long yoke]

Blood bending is also just a

Braindead op power btw

Like with enough control you just

[brave void]

oh really

[long yoke]

Cannot die

[jade copper]

Bonar on command?

[long yoke]

That too I GUESS

[jade copper]

W powers

[brave void]

too late

[jade copper]

Lol

[west niche]

||would have been satisfied if it was Marie, Polarity, Ryan, Butcher, Kimiko, cate vs homelander||

[brave void]

bro fuck kimiko

[west niche]

pickle guy?

[brave void]

worst char of s5

[long yoke]

Shes like fine

But i hate how they just use her for

Vulgar jokes every 5seconds

Its so unneeded

[west niche]

made gen v useless in 1 line

amazing writing

[brave void]

i expected butcher to go on a killing spree

but over his dog bro

[jade copper]

Based off the untagged lines

[brave void]

well not OVER his dog

[jade copper]

Smth tells me this was NOT good

[brave void]

it wasnt BAD

but its what you expected woudlve happened

[long yoke]

||well butcher was suicidal anyway tbf||

[west niche]

season 5 posters btw

💔💔💔

[jade copper]

You guys talk about it like it is

[brave void]

I BROUGHT THIS UP RIGHT AFTER BW

[long yoke]

||in the finale he's honestly not that different from comic butcher||

[brave void]

LIKE

????

[long yoke]

Its like

Fine?

It was really sage

Safe

[jade copper]

Fine?

[west niche]

its more disappointing

[jade copper]

Is that bad

[long yoke]

Fine is fine

It was an alright finale

It could've been better

But they just played it super safe

[west niche]

@brave void @long yoke
guys when are we gonna see his crashout

[long yoke]

The last 20mins are the best part of the entire season

[jade copper]

The way you guys talk about makes it seem like the worst thing ever

[west niche]

epilogue should have been longer

but its whatever

vought rising prob will cover it

[long yoke]

If only it was some kind of

1hr 30min episode

But nah the fans will get bored

We dont wanna bore the fans dw

[west niche]

||as long as vought is around there can be a next homelander||

this is a valid concern

💔

like very valid

[long yoke]

||maybe marie can actually do something next time||

[heady kettle]

homelander

more like

pooplander

hoho!

[long yoke]

||round 2, john ego supe vs born homelander killer 3000||

[brave void]

i really wanted some genocide from homelander where he kills the nonbelievers

BASED OFF THE POSTERS

[brittle mirage]

the boys is just american shonen thoughts

[long yoke]

Yeah

To both of those

[heady kettle]

type 1

[jade copper]

1

[long yoke]

1

[brittle mirage]

type 1

[west niche]

||if they wanted a real happy ending, they should have introduced actual real superheroes but they are kinda weak, but still kind at heart||

[supple zinc]

Can anyone help me explain this clip of why my sig ult didn’t work

I can DM it to you

[brave void]

starlight

[long yoke]

Sig ult gets blocked by los

[jade copper]

Show me finkle

[long yoke]

And it checks los from the ult center

Its probably that

Its a pretty misleading preview when you use it

[haughty burrow]

The fake leaks had better writing lol

[jade copper]

It was broken los

[slim dagger]

yes

show

[long yoke]

Yeah assumed so

[west niche]

in the comics there was a legit superhero group but they were just very weak, kind at heart tho

[long yoke]

Sig ult can be a bit finicky if you aren't used to it

[slim dagger]

dude in the middle chill

[haughty burrow]

||The last fight should have been at the beginning of the season and escalate from there||

[long yoke]

This season defo had pacing issues i agree

[west niche]

the boys kai

[slim dagger]

thought i’d know why

turns out his sigma is just broken

[haughty burrow]

Yep lmao

[long yoke]

?

Petal platform on the middle of the ult maybe?

I know that fucks with los super hard

[slim dagger]

domina and mercy

[jade copper]

Was broken by a tiny statue wall box thingy on rialto

[long yoke]

Fucked up and evil

[slim dagger]

no

domina was in los

[jade copper]

No

Watch again

Theres a tiny thing

[long yoke]

Send tbe clip

Here

[jade copper]

That comes out from the box

That blocked los

[supple zinc]

Thanks for the help guys

[slim dagger]

ur on thin ice

it’s a ping issue

[jade copper]

Well ping or not

Still blocked

[supple zinc]

Yeah very unlucky

[jade copper]

Bud

[supple zinc]

I rarely clip my games but that had me confused lol

[brittle mirage]

how it feels to have not watched the boys from the start

[high quail]

The only time I really ever clip is when I kill multiple people with sticky bomb because funny

Or "clips" like this one lmao

[slim dagger]

why do you play like this

[high quail]

Like what?

[pulsar sage]

Does anyone know what qualifies as actually reportable when it comes to overwatch chat

[broken lava]

everything is reportable

[ebon jungle]

everything

[broken lava]

that is literally the policy

[ebon jungle]

I got perma banned for calling people bad

[west niche]

freedom of speech is scam

[high quail]

Still waiting on a elaboration

[pulsar sage]

so lik

[broken lava]

there’s no such thing

[polar yew]

Well overwatch isn’t America so

[pulsar sage]

like

even if youre not being mean

you can still get banned?

[broken lava]

america doesnt have it either

[polar yew]

Yes it do?

[ebon jungle]

yeah i got perma banned for calling people bad

[inland lintel]

Not anymore

[pulsar sage]

cuz thats literally what the word "everything" means

[polar yew]

Okay lol

[pulsar sage]

yeah but thats being negative

i mean like

[broken lava]

ok go criticize Israel then

[pulsar sage]

if youre positive

[ebon jungle]

yeah probably

[polar yew]

Israeli bad

[pulsar sage]

i find that very odd

[high quail]

It literally is

[pulsar sage]

i hope other people agree with my opinion

[polar yew]

no its not

[broken lava]

the point we’re trying to make is that bans are based on number of reports

so will you get banned for saying gg for example? probly not

[ebon jungle]

its the same in this server, you can get muted for saying anything

[dark scroll]

your account shouldnt get suspended or banned over chatbans, only a full chatban

[ebon jungle]

yeah I agree

[slim dagger]

i’ve been banned for cheating like 50 times even tho i’m legit hhhh

[broken lava]

ya agreed its dumb

[pulsar sage]

yeah i still find it odd

damn

[high quail]

I agree to an extent. If you say something actually egregious then its probably for the best.

[dark scroll]

Nah even then

[broken lava]

we’re not defending it

bad system

[ebon jungle]

Ive gotten banned for saying gg in rocket league

[dark scroll]

chatban shouldnt equal a game ban

[pulsar sage]

so if just the enemy team decides "lets report this widow cuz shes too good"

even though she hasnt done anything

she gets jumped

[broken lava]

youre overthinking this

but ya

[pulsar sage]

i mean people will exploit anything

[ebon jungle]

youre bronze be quiet

[broken lava]

get a chat ban first before you complain abt the system

[polar yew]

Okay overwatch is IN America

I said overwatch isn’t America

[high quail]

my bad I misread

[polar yew]

It’s okay

[ebon jungle]

dont care im reporting you to the mods for harassment

[high quail]

don't at me once I make it to plat tho

[polar yew]

lol

[ebon jungle]

plat is still awful

[ornate canyon]

flash heal or double dose

[polar yew]

Flash

[high quail]

https://tenor.com/view/star-lord-scream-marvel-guardians-of-the-galaxy-peter-quill-gif-10886042163244272738

[fickle blade]

no

[polar yew]

Yes

[high quail]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-missed-over-your-head-gif-8604199

[ebon jungle]

Hi, Im sorry for saying that

[polar yew]

People in plat play with their feet

[broken lava]

we’re OW players. we call em grippers

[ebon jungle]

feet🤤

[polar yew]

I regret saying that now

[high quail]

Queen of aura

[fickle blade]

queen of overwatch

and the strongest

[polar yew]

False

[unreal tide]

https://tenor.com/view/green-aura-with-flies-aura-farming-aura-gif-2582732735957622734

[past adder]

the bad kind of aura

[high quail]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-overwatch-gif-4557575402386589370

[past adder]

ew what have u done to her

she looks terrible

[polar yew]

Wdym

She looks the same

[past adder]

u sure ur not blind

[robust field]

U mean chain boost or r u talking ab pre-flash base kit

[dark scroll]

i read this so wrong

[high quail]

Some maps Sym is so free. If only my teammates used my teleporter

[robust field]

U always read wrong u are illiterate

[dark scroll]

HEY HEY HEY

calm down

[robust field]

Never

[dark scroll]

HEY HEY

[robust field]

Where the dms…

[dark scroll]

calm down AND I WAS WHOLESOME IN THE DMS

[unreal tide]

man the west just dont got shit on chinese consumerism

[gusty folio]

chat

[robust field]

Mhm

[gusty folio]

im gonna be a decennial in eight days

[robust field]

But the intent

[high quail]

Because our playerbase didn't tank that hard

[robust field]

Is obvious

[unreal tide]

why genji in a suit at a burger king? is he trying to meet the king himself?

[west niche]

wat dat

[gusty folio]

10 years on the server

[west niche]

name 3 fast food places where its ok to wear a suit

[unreal tide]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

[robust field]

Also @dark scroll lemme slide in rq bc I saw u talking ab this earlier women not wanting kids in todays economy might be a lil more logical than u think

[polar yew]

Why can’t I ever get the good stuff

Overwatch please come to burgerking America 😭💔

[west niche]

lowk fast food collabs work best with america

🤫

[polar yew]

Yeah it did well when they did it with halo that one time ages ago

[broken lava]

right???

americans love fast food

[polar yew]

Yes I do

[broken lava]

yes WE* do

[polar yew]

Yeah ik I do

I am america

[west niche]

uh

[polar yew]

John America

[west niche]

i dont think thats a good thing atm